My latest lockdown interview is with Louisiana Tech defensive back Amik Robertson. You are going to love his energy, his confidence and his overall personality. He’s already talking about a legendary NFL career and he confirmed he had a productive FaceTime meeting with the Seahawks.
There are three positions the Seahawks haven’t hedged going into the draft — running back, defensive tackle and nickel corner. All three areas could be targeted. Robertson’s hitting, turnover production and personality could put him firmly on Seattle’s radar. Don’t forget to check out yesterday’s seven round mock draft.
It’s also the week of the draft and there are still some deals to be done — on the open market and via trades. Frank Clark was traded two days before the 2019 draft. Will we see some moves in the next 48 hours?
Check out the interview below and then continue scrolling for details on a mock draft competition, new for 2020…
Mock draft competition
I was recently approached by David, a member of the community, about setting up a mock draft competition. I told him I didn’t have time but if he was willing to organise it — I’d happily bring it to everyone’s attention. He sent me these details which you can read below.
Good luck to all involved. I’ll see if we can’t arrange for some kind of prize for the winner.
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By David C,
Welcome SDB Faithful to the inaugural, 1st annual Mock Draft Competition!!!
This is the primer to give everyone time to prepare. There will be a separate thread for your official mock draft entries posted this week.
Before we dive into it, I want to give out some major props. SDB is into its second decade now & aside from the great content, the in depth scouting, professional interviews, game day reviews, trend analysis & general all-around coolness, this site has becoming something uniquely special. It houses a real community of folks who genuinely care about each other.
In good times & especially in tough times, community is a great thing to have. SDB has the only civil & respectful comments section in the entirety of the World Wide Web as far as I know. It is hands down the best Seahawks site on the planet & as a draft geek & Hawk fanatic I spend a shamefully high amount of time here. Great thanks to Rob for creating this place for all of us to visit & for the passion, professionalism & insane amount of time and energy that he pours in. Also much gratitude to Mrs. Staton whose efforts allow the rest of us to enjoy this site. I suspect she wears a cape & can fly!
Tip of the hat to our resident NFL scout Volume 12, who routinely is the first person to identify many of the prospects I eventually crush on. If he chose to, I have not doubt that a living could be had on the payroll of some NFL organization. Honorable mention to Sea Mode & so many others for bringing awareness to so many different players. You folks actually make the draft much more painful in that I now know about way more players than I ever would have. Watching one after another get plucked by different teams is akin to giving away my dogs puppies as a kid. It hurts. Okay… enough sappiness from me. Let’s get down to business!
Here’s the framework for the competition.
In honor of the 12th man & because the current FO has yet to select more than 11 players in any given draft, while also recognizing they can go from 4 to 11 picks in a hurry, each one of us gets to choose 12 players for Seattle in their mock draft. Your picks can be in whatever round you want & do not have to be a realistic reflection whatsoever. If you believe choosing 12 different Tight Ends in the 4th round at pick 133 gets you the most ‘hits’ then have at it. “You play to win the game”.
For simplicity in scoring these mock entries after the draft & to resolve potential tie breakers, please format them as follows with the round & overall pick number for each selection. You can go here to see a listing of all 7 rounds with the corresponding overall pick number & who currently controls that pick. Also, pretty please with sugar on top, do not explain/justify any of your selections on your mock entries.
Entry Example;
1.27 Isaiah Wilson, OT, Georgia
2.42 Hingle McCringleberry, TE, Penn State
2.59 Marlon Davidson, EDGE, Auburn
2.64 Tyroil Smoochie-Wallace, WR, Miami
3.73 Zach Moss, RB, Utah
3.101 John Beckwith, P, Virginia
4.133
4.134
5.161… etc… etc… etc…
How to WIN?
1. Whoever gets the highest number of correct players drafted by the Seahawks with their 12 picks shall be crowned the winner!!!
2. In the event of a tie, whoever has the highest number of correct players chosen in the correct round wins.
3. In the event of a further tie, whoever has their correct players selected closest to their actual overall draft number is the winner. (Ex; Blogger A guessed 3.101 & the actual slot was 5.150 for a difference of 49. Blogger B guessed 6.194 & the actual slot was 6.184 for a difference of 10. Blogger B wins)
4. If it’s still a tie then I quit… Nah, we’ll just go to a coin toss to settle it. “There can be only one!”
The heavy lifting has been done. You’ve trained for this. You’ve prepared for this. You have been armed with knowledge and scouting reports via film study & by SDB, Tony Pauline, Lance Zirlein & others. You have seven years of tp in your garage & drink cucumber juice 6 times a day. You know the backstories, the drill results, the arm length, the hair length & favorite meal of every prospect by now. You know who the Seahawks have visited with and have 10 years of trend analysis on what they look for at each position. You’ve run at least 763 mock drafts via the PFN mock draft simulator. Well now it’s time to see if all of that preparation pays off. Get your ‘official’ 12 player mocks ready & look for the final submission thread to post them on in the days leading up to the draft. The cut off time for entries will be 8pm EDT / 5pm PDT on Thursday, April 23rd.
Let the game begin! I’ll kick it off with my official entry;
2.40 Raekwon Davis, DL, Alabama
2.59 Lucas Niang, OT, TCU
3.71 Akeem Davis-Gaither, OLB, Appalachian State
3.71 Bryan Edwards, WR, South Carolina
3.80 Darrell Taylor, EDGE, Tennessee
3.101 A.J. Dillon, RB, Boston College
4.121 Robert Hunt, OL, Louisiana
4.133 Leki Fotu, DT, Utah
4.144 Trevis Gipson, DE, Tulsa
6.214 Thakarius “BoPete” Keyes, CB, Tulane
6.214 Calvin Taylor Jr., DL, Kentucky
6.214 Kamren Curl, DB, Arkansas
Have fun & good luck!!!
Thanks for all you do Rob. You really provide quality work and I sincerely love the fact that disagreement (of which there isn’t a ton) is almost promoted because it sparks great dialogue.
As for the mock draft…We trade back with the Colts (27 for 44 + 75). We also package picks 133 + 144 + future picks to get to 90 – we got a late round pick in return as well. I also based this on ProFootballNetwork rankings:
2.44 WR KJ Hamler
2.59 DT Raekwon Davis
2.64 DE Curtis Weaver
3.75 RB Cam Akers
3.90 LB Willie Gay Jr
3.101 DT Davon Hamilton
6.200 OG Damien Lewis
6.214 DE Trevis Gipson
Here’s my rationale:
Hamler – I firmly believe, with no insider knowledge, that the first pick is going to be spent on an offensive playmaker for RW. That could be a RB or WR – but I think they target a guy that can make a difference on Day 1. I think they have been burned too many times recently with guys who can barely contribute on Day 1. No matter what Hamler does from a playbook retention standpoint – he can contribute on special teams and provide a dynamic 3rd option.
Davis is a no brainer IMO. He was an elite player in 2018 and fell off big time in 2019. What he has is rare size and movement skills. I think they run to the podium for this one.
Curtis Weaver is a departure from their typical preference but Rob has hammered home “Pass Rush Win Percentage” and Curtis Weaver is absolutely elite in that regard.
Cam Akers, again, this is a no brainer. I think Akers on a decent college team would be talked about as a top 40 pick. RB is a huge need…and this is tremendous value. Wouldn’t at all shock me if by week 9 he is getting the bulk of the carries.
Willie Gay Jr is 100% about attitude and athleticism. This is a get faster on defense pick.
Davon Hamilton is a wonderful player. I think it’s wishful thinking that he falls this far but he is just a perfect DT prospect in the sense that he has produced at a high level and does not have any real weakness to his game.
Damien Lewis is a value pick. Love the attitude. I think he’s your long term answer at OG. He will probably go on the Phil Haynes track.
Trevis Gipson reminds me a bit of Chris Clemons – I think he’s a redshirt candidate that you let learn the LEO role. Anything he can provide this year is just gravy.
This will never happen, but I would be seriously excited if we could get this haul of players. That would be an amazing draft. Great job.
I agree it won’t happen – things landed pretty perfectly in the simulator.
This is pretty close to my ideal first 3 rounds, dude.
Is trash talking allowed?
You draft like Ruskell fam
John Idzik lookin Mike Mayock head ass.
You just got picked up to lead the Browns big turnaround huh.
You lawn chair GM. Full-sized-couch-on-the-porch GM
(just kidding around yo, I’m all for the banter)
Draft Herbert to peal that ‘O’ decal off your broke-ass truck. š
*peel
/smh
I’ll draft Shane Lemieux and run thru a mf face
You can’t even pronounce his last name.
First name BA Last Name MF
LOL. Seriously, I was going to ask you your thoughts on Herbert, Lemieux, other Ducks. Hope all is well.
Herbert is kind of a pussy and leaves a legacy of underachievment despite winning the Rose Bowl for us. 3 head coaches in his time at Oregon didn’t help.
Troy Dye is a high character LB that can do a little of everything
Lemieux is a hog, can play all 3 iOL spots at the next level. 3rd round floor.
Throckmorton is way underrated because he’s a man without a position. Versatile G/T prospect.
Jake Hansen just benched 33 reps and is a 4 year starter for one of the top OLs in the country.
Our TE Breeland is probably the best in this class imo. Injuries hurt his stock massively. He was on pace to lead the country in TE TDs I think. Midseason All-American.
Juwan Johnson should go undrafted and might stick on a roster.
Thanks, man.
Ur welcome Matt Miller š
LOL / Kenny ‘Hair Like Kiper’ Sloth
Al Davis 90 year old stockpile of TP has better mock drafts then you.
I don’t understand it, but I like it.
And obviously this is not the submission thread, right?
Correct. I thought it was pretty clear:
No the submission thread is later this week I believe.
Probably also a sign that if Fournette is traded, Jax will select a RB in the early part of the draft…
“no takers yet” is an interesting way to describe it.
Is his trade value plummeting?
Similar to Yannick, they’re probably holding out hope someone will still meet their original asking price and will either have to come to terms with what’s out there and take what they can get or risk losing them for peanuts later when their value has plummeted.
Well that NFLN report by Garafolo just shredded his trade value. Sleeping in meetings?
At least Bennett had the decency to read a book.
Thanks again for all the interviews Rob! What a great way to start off draft week. I’m torn. This guy is such a great interview. He has great energy and bravado. Something that’s been missing from the secondary in my opinion. I feel like its a guy like him in the middle rounds this year that has a chance to really be an impact for the team. However, I kind of felt that way about Amadi last year. He is similarly charismatic and has a bit of a knack for the ball. He got toasted vs GB, but he needed those reps late in the season. He was on the radio and sounded motivated and confident from the experience. They always take a corner though so the competition can’t hurt i guess.
I love hearing guys with that āpissed off for greatnessā attitude. I would love to see Amik have a chance to compete with Ugo for slot corner. If I remember correctly, Amik was MVP of a pretty prestigious DB camp.
Another great interview. Iāll be willing to bet off of that interview he is on the Seahawks radar. Got to love that south Louisiana accent
Really enjoyed that interview. Amik seems like a confident dude with some pissed for greatness vibes. The whole ‘doubt me because I’m undersized’ angle is hard to miss.
La Tech played Southern Missouri, and Quez Watkins vs Amik Robertson was a matchup that I wanted to look at. That’s probably the best WR Amik had to face last year, and is the game he got 3 INT. Quez still got his, but some his catches were against other DB’s. The play that stood out to me was Amik’s 3rd INT. He jams Quez forcefully and completely at the LOS. Watkins can’t even get into his route and the timing of the play is totally thrown off. By the time he starts to turn to look for the ball, Amik has already broken on the pass and makes the INT. Great toughness and hand-fighting in press coverage there.
Great pull, Rob. He is almost certainly on the Hawks radar.
Thank you
Thanks for this one Rob, what a fun interview to listen to! You have to love Amik’s energy and confidence in himself. Guys like him, with his passion and drive, will definitely have a role at the next level.
Almost sounded like your last question sparked some real emotion in him, get the feeling that he will absolutely cherish being drafted and work his tail off for the team that does pick him!
Great work, love to hear from guys like him!!
Thank you — it was my favourite interview so far.
But is he a “football player”…?
Wow, seriously? Both Bosas over him, for me, to start with…
Joey had 5 sacks his junior season
Young had 16.5
I canāt agree with your statement in the slightest. Young is a force
Here’s Amik Robertson’s Pro Day clip they put out, in case anyone missed it:
https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1249089654214754304
Also, it appears from another interview that heās received mostly second- and third-round grades from teams.
Wow, 2nd or 3rd round? You think that’s too steep for the Seahawks to go for him?
I think that’s earlier than they’d look at slot/nickel. He probably deserves the grade though.
Don’t worry boys. John Reid will ease the pain if we don’t land Amik š
You would think with there current picks that 101 would be the earliest.
I want to like John Reid. He does have the elite short area agility we look for.
His highlights in #29 do look good… Will try to watch some more games of his.
He does, however, turn 24 next month.
I’ve seen him anywhere from top 100 to UDFA. The earlier we’d have to take him, the less excited I get. When I first started talking him up, he was pretty much universally viewed as a round 6 or 7 guy. If you have to take him in the 3rd, that’s a little rich.
https://www.pennlive.com/pennstatefootball/2020/04/nfl-draft-analyst-is-a-big-fan-of-penn-states-john-reid-kj-hamler-could-be-a-steal-and-more.html
This was from his DB Coach at PSU (granted: biased)
“John Reid has the best feet in the draft, of any corner out there. This year he worked tremendously hard on his tackling. As a junior he struggled as a tackler (but) this year he led our team in missed-tackle percentage. Johnās projected to be a nickle (back) in the NFL and I donāt know if thereās a better prospect going into the draft to play inside against those slot (receivers). … A lot of (cornerbacks) struggle when you put them inside. They canāt handle a receiver who has a two-way go. John Reid can handle that.”
Would love to add Amik Robertson to compete with Amadi for slot CB.
With Blair, Diggs, Amadi, Hill, I won’t be surprised if they trade McDougald this week. Possible not probable.
I dont think they can afford that. I used to think BMac would be a cap casualty but really him and Diggs are our only proven safeties. Hill is looking like a JAG. I know they’re high on Blair and Amadi but I’m not sure they’ve seen enough yet.
They wonāt trade McD. His cap hit is reasonable, and he wouldnāt bring much in return. Also not sure if the team trusts Blair enough.
There is a live interview with Isaiah Wilson and DāAndre Swift tonight. The event is set to begin at 2 p.m. ET and will be broadcast on the DawgNation Facebook and Youtube pages. Swift and Wilson will be taking questions from DawgNationās Brandon Adams and Jeff Sentell, while also interacting with commenters and viewers.
Thanks for another great interview Rob and to David for this fun competition.
#SDBMockDraftCompetition (with a hashtag like this the entries could be easier to search for š )
My entry:
1: R2, #38 – Robert Hunt OL, Louisiana-Lafayette
2: R2, #59 – Raekwon Davis, DT, Alabama
3: R2, #50 – Chase Claypool, WR, Notre Dame
4: R2, #50 – Davon Hamilton DT, Ohio State
5: R3, #71 – Bryce Hall, CB, Virginia
6: R3, #101 – Zach Moss, RB, Utah
7: R3, #101 – Leki Fotu, DT, Utah
8: R4, #115 – Terrell Burgess, CB/S, Utah
9: R5, #157 – Kevin Dotson OL, Louisiana-Lafayette
10: R5, #165 – Joe Reed, WR, Virginia
11: R6, #185 – Lamical Perine, RB, Florida
12: R6, #214 – Javelin Guidry, S, Utah
Sorry, misunderstood, thought this is where the entries should go (damn, a delete button could protect from the shame :D)
Fret not – I was the first comment doing the wrong thing, lol.
Don’t worry guys we all are excited. No harm done.
Love that group of players! My list will look very similar.
I’d be happy with that draft. Guidry will be a steal, assuming they move him to corner, where he belongs with that kind of speed. I also think Perine is a player we have not talked about enough. He’s like a (much) better Robert Turbin and has gotten lost in this terrific, deep class. Another RB I think might fit the Seahawks mold is Michael Warren II. (I think we draft two– and I’m hoping for Taylor or Hillaire-Edwards– and then maybe Malcolm Perry or Michael Warren II.) My only problem is that you really cannot leave this draft without some kind of edge rusher, so even though I love all three of those DTs, at least one of them has to be a DE.
Of course, I understand this is a game and it’s not about picking the perfect draft but winning the contest… Still, change Davis or Hamilton to Uche or Zuniga– and maybe an Anfernee Jennings or Khalid Kareem instead of Burgess and I’m doing dances about this haul.
I am 100% on board with Perine.
Thanks now I know what to pick lol
PSA: since many people seem toHave missed this, the playerās name is āDaVonā Hamilton. Note the capital āVā. Donāt feel bad, his own school screwed it up for three years.
Tony Pauline:” number of teams, dare I say half the league, have medically failed Terrell Lewis of Alabama”
Not a single word from PCJS in the build up to this draft.
Several other GMs and HCs have held conference calls.
Bit surprised.
This radio silence is very strange. You’d think there would be at least a puff piece about how excited PC is for the draft and how it’s a great time to add talent to your team, etc.
Is that normal for them? Or just because of what’s going on in the world makes the silence look bad? If Pete doesn’t post his draft clues i’ll be really worried.
They probably don’t want to answer questions about Clowney and the state of the pass rush. There is no way to sugar coat the mess this off season has been so far.
Except for the Clark Trade I thought JS had his best off season in years last year. I would say this has been his worst at least to date.
Per Michael-Shawn Dugar in The Athletic todayā¦ āSchneider is scheduled to speak to the media Tuesday afternoon for the first time since the scouting combineā¦ā
I hope some proper questions will be asked about the awful state of the pass rush currently.
From the local beat writers?
Don’t hold your breath.
yeah, won’t happen
Most of them just play pattycake with Schneider. And Schneider himself hates these pre-draft bits, as to him they are simply opportunities to blow his cover.
I’d be quite content with zero questions about the draft.
I only want questions about the pass rush. Why have they signed 358 journeymen offensive linemen, eaten way into their cap and done barely anything to rectify the most glaring need on the roster?
Some serious questions need to be asked about how ‘fixing the pass is a priority’ turned into losing Jefferson and potentially Clowney and only adding Mayowa and Irvin. Why didn’t they do more in free agency? How concerned are they about the situation?
I suspect we’ll get questions about injury updates, a question on how much DK Metcalf can grow in year two, what do you think about Russell having another baby, how are you going to draft in lockdown etc etc etc
Wouldn’t it be great if you could call into that online meeting and ask those questions. Our beat writers aren’t going to rock the boat though, their livelihoods depend on sticking around.
I just relayed those questions to Mike Dugar and Greg Bell on Twitter. I hope that will inspire them to ask those questions tomorrow.
Saw some stuff from PC in the āFlying Coachā pieces you can find on the Seahawks website. One comment regarding the difference in this yearās draft preparation and this yearās draft itsestruck me as classic Pete. āWe see this as a competition with the other teams. This is a one-time challenge and we want to do it better than anybody else.ā
Also being commented here
https://seahawkswire.usatoday.com/2020/04/18/pete-carroll-says-seahawks-will-consider-draft-trades-with-every-pick/
Has anyone checked into CB Madre Harper? He has all the measurements of a late round project corner.
4.42 forty
33 7/8 arms
6′ 2″ 196lbs
UK Seahawkers had him on their podcast about a week ago. Might be on the day 3 radar or UDFA.
Who do you guys think will be the first OL, RB, WR off the board?
I am taking a flier on Becton, Taylor and Ruggs.
Thomas, Swift, Ruggs
Thomas, Taylor, Ruggs
Boring, but Wirfs, Swift, Jeudy.
Thomas, Taylor, Jeudy, I thought were pretty clear consensus, maybe not
Thank you David. Your far too kind.
And thank you Rob for giving me an outlet.
Daniel Jeremiah
@MoveTheSticks
Talked to a bunch of GMs over the weekend. A couple of guys that will go higher than anticipated:
USC OT Austin Jackson
TCU WR Jalen Reagor
Bama CB Trevon Diggs
TENN Edge Darrell Taylor
7:49 AM Ā· Apr 20, 2020
Does DJ still think Andrew Thomas is a late first prospect?
Lol. I have no idea. Just thought it was interesting. These guys have no idea like the rest of us.
I was being sarcastic.
I know ya were.
Yeah no sarcasm font needed there Rob. It was so obvious it was dripping. š
Pete and John will have conference call tomorrow afternoon.
Teams are waiting Jacksonville out, hoping the price comes down. It’ll be up to Jacksonville to take whatever the best offer is or do what the Seahawks did with Earl Thomas — keep a disgruntled player for another year and then let him walk for free.
My guess is they move him albeit for 2021 stock — and it might be after the draft.
JAX could value 2021 stock more than this year’s in order to have better chances to get Lawrence next year?
Yep
They have an awful lot of 2020 firepower.
Their strategy is to pay off huge cap numbers and eat them, while filling gaps with the 2020 draft.
If Gardner Minshew is their guy at QB, they will use their already insane 2021 firepower and giant cap space to bukld a contender. If not, they break the bank to take Lawrence or another guy, still have a lot of firepower in draft and FA terms, and contend a season later.
The only thing they would need is a coach able to build a winning culture. PC is just not given enough credit for that.
Whatever their asking price is will be too high. He is coming off what was maybe his best season, but his best season was basically on par with Chris Carson’s injury-shortened season. You want a second for the former #4 pick? You have to tell me Fournette signed to large money is better than Taylor or Edwards-Hillare on the cheap. I can’t see them getting anything more than a fourth for him before or after the draft– and I think even that might be pressing things. It would take a team like the Seahawks missing out big time in the draft to nail that down. It’s just a bad time to move an RB. There are like 5 studs in this class (and three or six others that are intriguing and you can probably get for little or nothing. Hell, would anyone be surprised if Patrick Taylor Jr. goes undrafted? And yet healthy he’s a really impressive prospect.
I think they’ll cut him soon. They’re basically seeing if they can get anything.
I think that’s right. Although I would not be overly surprised to see a team like the Hawks hand over a 2020 6th #214 or 2021 7th for him, in order to free up the earlier draft pick they would have spent on an Akers or Moss. He’d be a rental, then, as a hedge against the Penny and Carson injuries. And then they hit the position in next year’s draft. It depends on how PC/JS feel about taking on the salary.
I don’t think Seattle will trade for Fournette, personally. They’ve spent too long rebuilding their culture.
That makes sense. But sometimes need overpowers sense. And of course something stinks in Jacksonville, and so you have to wonder if the problem is the players or is it the team. Clowney was said to be an attitude problem as well, but he fit in fine. Duane Brown too. Though I admit to not being overly familiar with whatever issues Fournette has at the moment. Did he bag on Tom Coughlin? Not sure if that would be a deal breaker for the Hawks, but it might be.
Wow YN vs Khan
https://twitter.com/YannickNgakoue/status/1252284901937811457?s=19
Yikes
What does that do to his trade value? LOL
The same damage as the #freeyann hash tag!?
I still cant believe…he is calling owner via twitter…šššš¬
I can. Tony Khan is a f***n’ mark. Has his tonuge too far up someone’s a** for praising his vanity wrestling promotion.
What a shambolic franchise
Yannick is starting to go down the path of Antonio Brown.
Hardly.
Ummm no.
That’s a whole criminal can of worms for which Yannick has shown ZERO propensity
If you forget about the Antonio brown case, which I personally think wonāt go anywhere, Yannick is certainly giving me similar vibes to when Antonio brown was threatening to quit football over a helmet, froze his feet off, and then made a video of himself prancing around the back yard because the raiders released him
Not that extreme yet but Iām just getting similar vibes of a player who thinks heās way more important than he is, letting his emotions destroy his career
Ngakoueās acting like an arse but heās a million miles off Antonio Brown.
I don’t really want to speak on Antonio Brown, but the only correlary between the two is that they lack business savvy and the buck about stops there.
NFL Draft dress rehearsal already experiencing malfunctions w Bengals #1 overall šš
S**tshow
John Lynch posted his setup for draft night
https://twitter.com/JohnLynch49ers/status/1252272461548158976
I can’t imagine some of these non-tech GM’s trying to run a 4 screen, 4 phone operation.
Call my nephew he’s good w computers
This one got me. š
https://twitter.com/SlopingGiraffe/status/1250167156689510402
He has a whole ass binder. I thought those were extinct.
Life’s different in the top 5
He has a whole ass binder. I thought those were extinct.
Lifeās different in the top 5
Magic: The Gathering
Aren’t you glad we’re not Giants fans!
Amik is such a great listen, first one of these interviews I’ve listened to multiple time. He speaks like a guy that’s gonna be a superstar in the league if he can back it up with his play. Fortunately with everything I’ve seen of him he’ll do that too.
I’m a bit concerned he’ll go too early for Seattle to consider, but we need some alphas and some playmakers in the defence and he brings that.
Agree, he was great to listen to for sure…would make a great NCB for the Seahawks!
Not my competition mock. Just been posting all the mocks I have written up on here so I can get feedback. I have been challenging myself and picking new players each mock I make.
Trade Back Twice gain 3rd and 4th & 6th.
RD2- OT- Ezra Cleveland- Boise St.
The Hawks decide to take advantage of getting a potential starting LT for the future. They nab Cleveland a local Washington kid. Great athleticism for the LT spot, but definitely a little raw and needs a year in an NFL weight room.
RD 2- DL- Jabari Zuniga- Florida
One of the few twitchy EDGE prospects. Can explode into the backfield. Played multiple spots on the Florida DL. He does have injury concerns though.
RD 2- DT- DaVon Hamilton- Ohio St.
His best football could be ahead of him. A stout run defender with great power. Only a one year starter at Ohio St.
RD 3- OG- John Simpson- Clemson
An absolute mauler in the run game. Opened up massive holes all year long for Travis Etienne.
RD 3- LB- Malik Harrison- Ohio St.
NFL comp is KJ Wright. Let him sit behind KJ for a year to take over the spot next year. Has good speed, and is a leader who loves to compete. They double dip on Ohio St. players with Hamilton and Harrison.
RD 4- WR- Van Jefferson- Florida
At first I wasnāt sold on Jefferson due to never putting up huge numbers in college. But he is one of the best route runners in college football. He is also a 4.4 runner that impressed at the Senior Bowl. Another double dip with Florida.
RD 4- DT- McTelvin Agim- Arkansas
Yes a second DT draft pick. Agim can get into the backfield with a quick first step. Posted 5 sacks in his senior season.
RD 6- RB- Deejay Dallas- Miami
Miami RB draft picks in back to back years? He fits the mold of what the Hawks look for in a RB and has low mileage. Didnāt fumble once during the 2019 season. Has also returned kicks and punts in his college career.
RD 6- OG- Marcus Keyes- Oklahoma St.
Another OG!? They already have a ton on the roster. Itās all about competition. And do you really trust any of the options currently on the roster to be a long term starter at OG? Keyes is a first team All Big 12 selection at guard. Helped lead one of the best running games in the country for OSU who averaged 229.6 yards per game.
Brian Kelly on Chase Claypool: āI havenāt had a player that has his kind of consistent competitive drive week-in and week-out and thatās how he practices as well.”
Always compete Pete will love this.
If the Hawks go WR in the first 2 rounds I think Claypool as to be a target. He ticks all the boxes. I just don’t know if they can afford to spend an early pick on WR given their other needs. I really hope they do however.
Agree.
Really wouldn’t shock me if he’s the guy after a small trade down, with our first pick. He really is kind of the perfect #3 in this type of offense. Hell, blocks better than half the TEs in the league now (not saying much).
I said it earlier and I have nothing to back it up, but I really do think the first pick is going to be an offensive weapon – they will get the one they want then will switch focus to the trenches the rest of the time. I think they saw what DK was capable of doing and I think they will absolutely find another premium talent, whether at WR or RB, who can threaten a defense.
There are a lot of great trench options in R2-4.
Rob, do you see Hunt and Adeniji both as Guards?
If so, do you see it as Hunt>Simpson>Adeniji?
What is your take on Simpson? He seems like the kind of guy Solari would love.
No I think Hunt can play tackle
If Hunt can play tackle I am all in on Hunt.
39: Julian Okwara, DE
59: Matt Peart: OT
77: Bryan Edwards, WR
83: Jonathan Greenard, DE
101: Davon Hamilton, DT
122: Logan Stenberg, G
144: Lemical Perine, RB
160: Nick Harris, C
192: Harrison Hand, CB
214: Jonathan Garvin, DE
248: Nate Staley, QB
252: Isaiah Coulter, WR
Yannick Ngakoue embarrassing himself on twitter.
That has to be concerning to any team even considering trading for him. Despite the Hawks mess on the DL I really hope the Hawks pass on him.
His stock better plummet because I barely wanted him before these tirades.
This is a master class in how not to behave.
From both of ’em. I find it highly entertaining in a twitter banter sense, but would JS do this for example?
The best policy in regards to Twitter is to not be on Twitter
could not agree more
I didn’t want him when the idea first came up…certainly don’t want him now. Never liked his physical profile…and I don’t like the production considering the talent that was around him.
Man how hard would it be to just have GMs call Goodell w their picks. Have him posted up w a couple HoFers to announce picks and then switch between roundtables and war room footage
Really making a mess out of this production
One thing about this draft that I won’t miss is when ESPN flashes a shot of a teams war room after their pick and everyone’s going crazy like they just sealed the SB. Some of those guys really overreact like it’s gonna get them that promotion.
Rob,
Do you think two fourth round picks from TB would be enough for them to move up to 27 from 45? It sounds a little light to me but I’m curious what you think.
Way too light
How much more would be needed in your opinion?
Youāre moving up nearly 20 spots. Check the trade value charts.
Most GMs will want to move out of that range, but some others will be desperate to get ahead of certain teams.
Rob, do you have a sense for which teams will want to move? I know 9ers will likely try to acquire more picks.
https://www.profootballnetwork.com/draft-prospects-rising-falling-2020-nfl-draft-podcast/
Who were the teams listed?
I think staying in the top 100-110 picks is critical this year. Maybe you can get away with 120-5…but anything after that I think you are really taking a massive flyer, more than usual in most years.
Jump half a round over some of the best spots in the draft?????? In front of all those QB needy teams too.
I want to at least get another pick in the top 100.
Who do you want at 27? Jonathan Taylor?
The trade chart points for a trade of 27 for 45, 117, and 139 would be 216 to 169. No way they do that. They would need 45, 76 and 117 which would be an even 216 for 216.
Much better.
It’s also not like other teams won’t be open for business with either party thats why I wondered why he wanted 27!
That’s ahead of Baltimore who could do anything imo.
Just re-watched the game vs Pats in 2016. Man, it would have been so nice if CJ Prosise could have stayed healthy. He is such a weapon out of the backfield an a mismatch lined out wide. I hope we can come away with a pass catching back in the draft. Edwards Helaire would be the guy I would want, but what other back could you guys see being a target to fill that role?
Antonio Gibson. Memphis
Good point. We should see some movement very soon.
Or none at all.
Iām not holding my breath.
Hey Rob, have you watched any tape on Alex Highsmith, edge from Charlotte? Smaller school guy that dominated his competition. Looks real quick off edge, shows multiple pass rush moves, good pursuit speed, fights through blocks to get to ball carrier. Combine results don’t wow, but maybe he didn’t have elite trainers. Rd 4-5 guy?
6-3 1/8 Height, 248 lbs, 9 1/8 Hands, 33 1/8 Arms, 76 7/8 Wingspan
4.70 40YD, 33.0 Vert, 125 Broad, 7.32 3-cone, 4.31 Shuttle
I couldn’t get excited watching him.
He looked like he belonged against Clemson and it’s kind of damning with faint praise.
Well the problem is, outside of Chase young, who is brilliant, every other pass rusher this year is pretty boring to watch on tape.
Not true
Weird way of saying you’ve never seen tape on Greenard
Another pass rusher might be available to Seattle, but the cap hit would be roughly 16 million.
https://nfltraderumors.co/report-49ers-have-several-veterans-available-for-trade-including-dee-ford-kwon-alexander/
and according to OverTheCap, the base salary in 2020 is fully guaranteed.
My SF buddy saying Ford cannot stay healthy and therefore are ready to cut bait with him. Can’t blame him for saying that, since their window of contention is open right now.
Rob: It is getting bad in Jacksonville. So far no offers for Ngakoue. Their is an on going UGLY twitter war between Ngakoue and the owner of Jacksonville. The price for Ngakoue is going down. If Ngakoue is not traded before or during the 2020 draft. Jacksonville might not get a first round pick next year.
Well no. They probably weren’t getting a R1 anyway. But they’ve got no leverage, just like the Seahawks and Earl Thomas. Seattle should’ve just taken the best offer for Earl when they had the chance. Now Jacksonville face the same dilemma. They run the serious risk of an ugly holdout next season to prove a point. Or they can get what they can now. Tough call.
John Clayton said the Jags would take a 5th for Fournette and the Seahawks would be dumb to do it. What do you think Rob?
Well if he’s falling asleep in meetings and acting like a diva, of course they’d be dumb to do it. Plus they don’t have a fifth.
But if he’s actually willing to come in and work to make a career of this, they’d be dumb not to. You’d be getting a talented runner for a day three pick. So unless they’ve got their heart set on Jonathan Taylor or big Clyde, there’d be no reason not to consider it.
Yeah it seems like a move they would be all over. They get a tone setter for a late round pick who should be motivated. It would free them from having to use an early pick on a RB but maybe they are set on one of them?
I wonder if Ngakoue would still demand an extension if he were actually traded or be willing to play on the tag for a year if it gets him out of Jacksonville.
It’s a great question. I’m thinking at this point he might be willing to play on the tag just to get out, but would probably demand a “no tag” agreement/clause similar to Clowney.
I would think for sure he would want the no tag deal. It would then put us in a similar situation next year. Im guessing the Seahawks wouldnt want a $17.8m cap hit either so they might want some salary relief the same way they got for Clowney.
Only thing is he’s acting like an idiot.
Would be an even worse look, after publicly bashing the owner to #FREEYAN, then turn around and try and nix a trade because he didn’t get the no tag agreement.
But sounds like it wouldn’t be out of character for him.
And if I were John, I would never agree to give up player control again. What a mess this has turned out to be. Zero compensation if he leaves. Nope. Can’t agree to that.
Wow what a sh** show in JAX!
They are gutting that entire roster. I wouldn’t mind if the seahawks took a peek but I doubt we have the cap
Win Never for Trevor?
To be honest, the times when Lee was their best wideout must have seen Bortles at the helm. And even then, he wasn’t NFL good, but Blake Bortles good.
With a loaded quality WR class, this is the way to rebuild.
Seattle trades 27 to Detroit for 35, 85, 182.
Pick 35 – Julian Okwara, EDGE, Notre Dame
Pick 59 – Raekwon Davis, DT, Alabama
Pick 64 – Jeremy Chinn, S, Southern Illinois
Pick 85 – Chase Claypool, WR, Notre Dame
Pick 101 – Joshua Kelley, RB, UCLA
Pick 133 – Davon Hamilton, DT, Ohio State
Pick 144 – Kindle Vildor, CB, Georgia Southern
Pick 182 – Saahdiq Charles, T, LSU
Pick 214 – Julian Blackmon, CB, Utah
I would also be stoked about this draft as well. Good job
No trades because JT was available at 27:
SEA 27.Jonathan Taylor RB Wisconsin
SEA 59.Joshua UcheOLB Michigan
SEA 64.Justin MadubuikeDT Texas A&M
SEA 101.Jonathan GreenardOLB Florida
SEA 133.A.J. DillonRB Boston College
SEA 144.Hakeem AdenijiOT Kansas
SEA 214.Calvin ThrockmortonC Oregon
I’d quibble with some of these ranges but I like the thought process. Really hope we look for OL help earlier than that in such a robust class. I’m not banking on any of the guys currently on the roster to be a starter in 2 years.
Like all mock drafts…
would be an insane haul but DaVon Hamilton at pick 133 is pure fantasy.
I’m actually ok with waiting on OT. We have so many olinemen on the roster right now, and so few defensive linemen, something eventually has to give.
I also have a feeling they draft at least one of Okwara and Davis. I think Davis will be very high on their board. They always talk about Calais and already tried once with McDowell.
I looked over the trades from 2017-2019 for late first round too mid second rounds (21 trades without trading future picks). The average difference in the value of picks trading up/down in the area of pick 21 to 45 was 5,57 (Rich Hill chart) or 25,9 (Jimmy Johnson chart)
The last three years JS traded up four times with our first pick for two additional picks:
2019: 21 to 30, 114, 118. Good deal for GB
Rich Hill: 260,82 to 246,86 (equals to pick 143) or Jimmy Johnson 800 to 744 (pick 120)
2019: 30 to 37, 132, 142. Also favores the Giants
Rich Hill: 196,31 to 193,5 (pick 215) or Jimmy Johnson 620 to 605 (pick 192)
2018: 18, 248 to GB 27, 76, 186. seems balanced
Rich Hill: 288,1 to 282,3 (pick 183) favores GB, JImmy Johnson 901 to 907 (pick 214) favores Seattle.
2017: 26 to Atlanta 31, 95, 249. Better deal for us
Rich Hill: 222,74 to 231,78 (pick 163) or Jimmy Johnson 700 to 720,9 (pick 177)
I would expect the same this year, maybe with the same two trade partners like 2019. Guess our position doesnt improve with the 49ers and Titans also open for a trade up. Making trades for a mid 3rd pick more complicated: 27 to …
Colts 34 and 75: +21,62 (123) or +95 (102)
Lions 35 and 85: +4,74 (192) or +35 (143)
Chargers 37 and 71: +14,16 (142) or +85 (105)
Dolphins 39 and 70: +7,43 (171) or +70 (113)
Only scenario possible for me is a team reaching for a QB. Also trading 133 or 144 additionaly doesnt feel the JS way.
27 to later picks:
Browns 41 and 74: +6,29 (RH) or -30 (JJ) from Seattle perspective
Jags 42 and 73: +8,63 or -25
Colts 44 and 75: -18,69 or -5
Broncos 46 amd 77: -27,25 or -35
Browns got two third round picks. Could trade up for Cleveland or Winfield
Jags got three 4th rounders. Maybe (CB?)
Why should the Colts trade down from 44 and not 34?
Denver got three 3rd rounders. If they pick a WR first they could trade up for a better OT.
27 to 46, 77, 118, 252 seems realistic from a point of value (-1,88 or +23,75) and from JS preference to get additional picks. 181 instead of 252 feels like it would favor us too much in terms of quantity (4 picks) and value (+2,84 or +42)
I have finally figured out why John has made no move to acquire either a DE or a “superstar” on offense (per the request of one R. Wilson)ā¦ like many people telecommuting under the current circumstances, he is blowing off work. All evidence points to the fact that John is binge-ing on Mad Men rather than actually doing work.
I accept that he has not gone after Clowney, who absurdly priced himself totally out of the market. All 32 teams seem to be in agreement, based on radical inconsistency, injury histories, and only sporadic bursts of outstanding play, that he is worth no more than about $14M/per. But to do nothing when Griffen falls into their laps? To not have even made a low-ball offer on Yannick (which the Jags might be desperate enough after today’s tweet-storm to accept)? I like the adds of Bruce and Mayowa, but John must acquire one more DE/Leo. If he is aiming for the draft, perhaps he thinks K’Lavon will fall to #27? Perhaps he thinks Okwara is the guy if we trade down into early R2? Perhaps he believes that Zuniga/Taylor/Uche is this year’s Chase Winovich sitting there for the plucking late R2?
And whither our next LT? Big Duane is in the injury-phase of his brilliant career, so is Ogbueki his sure-to-play backup? A legit R1 OT is almost sure to be there at #27, but do you spend that value on a guy to groom for two years before called upon to replace Duane? Could this spot be filled later by a developmental player such as Bartch or Peart?
John achieved GM immortality with his 2010/2011 drafts, but may we point out that was a decade ago? Thankfully, his greatest pick, Russell Wilson, is here for 15 more years, but our QB pleads for more superstars. John has, of late, added guys like No-E, Dissly, J-Reed and DK, but not near enough of them.
Help us, Obi-wan-John, you are our only hope.
Two questions:
1. I’m hoping for a wr at 59 and was wondering who you think would have the greatest impact for the Hawks who realistically could be there:
1. Claypool
2. Hamler
3. Reagor
I’m having a hard time deciding which one I like the best – I see positives for all of them!
2. I’m really hoping one of these 3 will be there and be our selection, but if they are gone who do you think all 3 will be gone, who is our best option at wr at 59 or 64?
Thanks and Go Hawks!
I donāt think any of them will be there. They are all easily top-50 players.
For me, its Raegor and Claypool. Though I like Reager more, I also think he is going to go higher, and I think Claypool is a better fit, or will have the greater impact. I was not a fan of Claypool, and admit I was wrong about him, he has quietly become one of the ones I hope we get. Him and Raekwon are my top two, with Zuniga and Taylor in there. Im really hope we go with the boom or bust types this year.
If we’re going receiver, give me Justin Jefferson all day baby!
Go Tigas!!!
I admit, although I can see why his is, I’m not the Reagor fan others are. We need to fix the lines, and so OL and DE and DT are priorities, even RB is a bigger priority than WR, but of those that might be available with our third pick– I wouldn;t take a WR sooner– Shenault is the player that I think screams Seahawks.I mean, the combine was a disaster for him, but his game tape is good and so I’m chalking the bad 40 up to the core injury. There’s some risk involved, but I love Shenault early in the third after trading back from 64. If not, Duvernay might still be available at pick 70 or such.
Late round options I like are Tyrie Cleveland and, for someone completely off the radar, Lawrence Cager. I’m not sure why this guy is never talked about as a possible late-round steal. A lot of people like Hightower too, but I think he’s too slim for the Seahawks.
No way Reagor is there. He might well be gone by #27. Hamler might make it, but I doubt he gets past #50. That leaves Claypool. He could go before Reagor or be like DK and drop all the way to #64. He’s a wild card for me.
49. Joshua Uche – OLB Michigan
59. Raekwon Davis – DT Alabama
71. Chase Claypool – WR Notre Dame
92. Matt Peart – OT UConn
101. Willie Gay Jr. – OLB Mississippi State
106. Cam Akers – RB Florida State
133. Robert Hunt – OT Louisiana
138. Hunter Bryant – TE Washington
144. Anfernee Jennings – DE Alabama
174. Julian Blackmon – CB Utah
214. John Penisini – DT Utah
243.Trey Adams – OT Washington
Love that collection of players.
Seahawks sign OL, Kalil McKenzie. Bring on more depth.
That is 18 OL on the roster now.
Just saw this about him:
The Chiefs drafted McKenzie in the sixth round in 2018, moving him from defensive tackle to the offensive line.
Couldnāt risk losing this guy to… uh, the CFL? Had to act swiftly, weāll sort it out later.
Insanity.
He’s with us as a DL this time
That was going to be my question…are we bringing him in to compete on the DLine or OLine?
Where did you see this? or are you being sarcastic? He was playing in the XFL and was playing guard, I don’t see any reason why he would move to DT. It does continue to be strange the amount of OL we are signing though.
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/04/20/seahawks-signing-kahlil-mckenzie/
Where does it say that he is moving to DL? I don’t see that anywhere.
The article doesn’t say that and niether did I – it says he played DL in college and once the KC Chiefs drafted him, they moved him to OL. And that is where he has played since then…
“The Chiefs drafted McKenzie in the sixth round in 2018, moving him from defensive tackle to the offensive line.”
You responded to my question asking where it was said he was moving back to DL, with that hyperlink. So in essence, you did. Was known that he played DL in college, wanted to know where Kenny Sloth saw that he was moving back to DL for us, or if that was just sarcasm.
That was my question too. I really don’t like hit-and-run posts, especially here on SDB. Give us some background.
Rob4q, this wasn’t in response to you but in response to Kenny above. I read the same article on PFT and didn’t make a judgement on it, only that we had signed another OL who used to play DL in college…and he happens to be Reggie’s son…a very good friend of JS.
Incredible.
Dude is thick. Another thick stumpy guard. Huh.
Can anyone off the top of there head remember the earliest we have ever drafted an interior lineman? Both Carp and Britt were drafted as tackles.
I’m assuming you mean in the PCJS era. Moffitt maybe?
Doing some quick digging I remember Pocic a couple years ago but I know they liked him dues to his versatility. I could see them drafting Hunt as he can play tackle and or guard hut for those rooting for Ruiz I just can see it happening.
Yes, since 2010.
Germain Ifedi started out as a guard for us, right? Does that count?
2011, Moffitt. Round three after trading down from round two.
Moffitt is a good one as I forgot about him. Im just wondering if there is anything to them not drafting interior offensive lineman early the same way they dont draft corners early. Maybe its just positions they think differently about?
Tackle is definitely a premium position although they’ve mostly targeted RT prospects in the early rounds it seems
Per Bucky Brooks:
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001109887/article/team-fits-for-jameis-winston-panthers-smart-to-pay-mccaffrey
That’s what I’ve heard too.
Gonna be a massive run on receivers in the late 1st that could last into the second.
Good. Let them go. The more they pick WRs, the more they don’t pick the things we need like OL, DE, DT, and even RB.
That’s what I’m talking about!
Geaux Tigas!
If Jefferson and Aiyuk are sitting there at 27 we will regret the draft flexibility the current state of our defensive line affords us.
Edwards (who could go early in the 2nd and probably wouldnāt be an option if he didnāt break his foot), Claypool (could also go anywhere in the 2nd) Van Jefferson and Quez Watkins all seem like realistic 3rd wrs for us.
What are some cliffs and talent bubbles you guys see in this draft?
Since Rob updated his big board it helped me visual positional talent better. Obviously the best talent is at the top, but where are the sweet spots and when’s the latest you can get a contributor at the position?
There will be OTs going all over the first two days. Probably a small shelf with the top 3 options. Then I think a clear tier two with about 5 interchangeable names, all else equal. Gonna be fun to see who slips to round 3.
I think the sweet spot is 40-85. Probably want to get as many picks there as you possibly can.
What position in particular? You can always get contributors at RB throughout the draft. WR? 4th round.
Yeah I’m hoping for Tampa Bay to give up 45 + 76 for 27. Maybe a fourth too.
Big WR cliff in mid-4 depending. Might be a ton of WR in round 1 if teams are willing to wait for QBs.
Lots of value in round 3 at that position.
We can wait on RB obviously unless you can’t leave without someone like JonTay.
I was mostly trying to work out the cliffs and pockets for DE and DT. Maybe figure out how the OL class will land and what positions people consider for them.
If there’s a big run on receivers before Seattle selects late in the 2nd and they haven’t taken one, it’ll be interesting to see who’d they consider if they aren’t eyeing someone later.
I would think RT for them. Maybe a C if it’s really good value.
DT? IMO the pocket is early 2nd-late 3rd. DE? Mid 2nd-late 4th. I’m including base and wide ends in that. Some really good, intriguing 5t’s there. Strowbridge, Anfernee Jennings, Khalid Kareem for example.
I won’t be shocked if they skip the edge class.
Just too many unknowns, incomplete players, injury flags.
There are probably only a small pocket of players they’ll pick from.
The key at DE/EDGE is clearly going to be Clowney, Griffen or anyone else still out there.
Been thinking this, too. They might rate some in house talent higher than we could. Shaq and Rasheem did what they could at the end of last season.
Might be comfortable with Clowney/Everson situation
Maybe the biggest idiot writer I’ve ever seen.
https://seahawkswire.usatoday.com/2020/04/20/seahawks-wire-mock-4-0-predicting-seattles-picks-in-nfl-draft/
Nothing like using your most valuable piece of draft capital to net an extra……6th round pick?
If that wasn’t bad enough, then you use #64 on……Jalen Hurts?
Does this person get paid to do this?
Probably an intern from San Francisco
Trade back from 27 to 34 and only get a second?! WTAF…
But, I have actually thought about the Hurts idea, moreso the thought that if this draft class is going to be seen as null anyways due to the fact rookies cant have camp and all that (hence why we are signing all these OL) we could draft him later third, he gets to learn remotely from RW, play a season under RW, then before draft next year, really develop him, and trade him for a first. lol
I know most QBs don’t to like to be a back up in the N.F.L. Trust me. Jalen Hurts will not be happy being a backup. Let me say this. Jalen Hurts is one of the fastest risers in the draft. He transferred from Alabama to Oklahoma so that he could play under Lincoln Riley. Lincoln Riley has produced first overall pick in the 2018 and 2019 N.F.L. drafts. In my opinion Hurts might be the second best QB in this draft.
You act like that information is somehow news, or breaking news. Might I remind you that Hurts also stayed at Alabama for a year behind Tua for his team. Iām in agreement, that I think he is actually going to be something. But his personality is exactly why I think he would love to sit behind RW for a year, he seems humble and down to earth and NOT a prima dona as you would make him out to be. And regardless, it doesnāt matter if āJalen Hurts will not be happyā to back up someone or not. He will do what the team he is drafted by has him do. And if he is smart, his best route to become a starter is to sit behind a proven QB like Rivers, Rodgers, or RW. Besides, it was just a fun thought and response to someone having us draft him. Not a call to arms that the hawks MUST draft Jalen Hurts because he was coached by Lincoln Riley who coached Mayfield and Murray. Which both are irrelevant and donāt prove any point.
Just got done listening to Robertson. I am never listened to interview where a player is as confident in his ability as Robertson. One thing for sure. Robertson is not lacking in confidence. It sounds like this guy is willing to put in the time and effort to do whatever it takes to make it in the N.F.L.
Via Theo Ash
OnTarget Catch Rate
@SportsInfo_SIS
Justin Jefferson – 96.3%
Brandon Aiyuk – 93.5%
Michael Pittman – 93.4%
Van Jefferson – 91.8%
Bryan Edwards – 90.9%
Tyler Johnson – 89.3%
Laviska Shenault – 88.7%
Tee Higgins – 87.3%
Denzel Mims- 86.8%
Jalen Reagor – 83.3%
KJ Hamler – 80.7%
Now this IS something to pay attention to.
Aiyuk and Edwards are ideal third wheels at receiver for this offense IMO.
Twitter is great if you do it right
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I know we’ve discussed it before but with Shenault do you not believe he’s a special enough athlete to warrant package plays as a WR3.
I think his vision could add an element we don’t really have on the roster. Great size and flashed legit star potential in college.
High character and tragically witnessed his father cut down right in front of him
I don’t think he’s a special athlete at all to be honest. I’ve not seen anything on tape to suggest twitch or the ability to create easy separation. He’s not sudden like Percy despite operating in a similar role.
At SPARQ he ran a 4.59 and at the combine he ran a 4.58. That’s just what he is. Not fast.
He’s caught between running back and receiver. His best role, probably, is to just embrace that and try to become a plus receiving back who can be matched up on a creative offense.
I don’t see any appeal for the Seahawks really.
Wow! Thats a take I wasnt expecting but I can certainly see it. I wasn’t suggesting he was any kind of special athlete so that’s just down to poor syntax from me.
To your point he only separates on comebacks hitches and outs. The speed of the NFL might really catch up with his game. Even on kick returns you don’t have the time to pick your lane that you do in college.
I think he’s weighing around 225 and that’s not a bad weight for a receiving back at all. In that role he could find a fit in the modern NFL but like you’ve said before he doesnt have a role in our limited touch offense
I have constantly wondered what people see in Shenault…he’s just a gadget player that is extremely rudimentary as a WR. And his athletic testing + injury history makes me scratch my head. I bet he ends up in R4 – too many WR options that I’d trust more than him.
And I don’t think Seattle would know how to use him.
Great info.
What’s the downside of Justin Jefferson for Seattle? Ideal frame, required speed and explosion, some of the most reliable hands, ultra productive, can slide in the slot, one of the youngest prospects in the draft (he’s not quite 21 yet).
I guess the only question is which of him, Reagor, Aiyuk, Claypool is available at the end of R1-top of R2, and can we afford to pick one. Or does Bryan Edwards offer more value in the R2-R3 range considering our other needs?
https://twitter.com/CFBFilmRoom/status/1252296798280003593
That’s based on the same data source! Sports Info Solutions they work with a few NFL teams. They’re hiring NFL scouts right now!!
We cant afford to take a WR that early imo
Have to address DL. Have to. Can’t afford to wait for Rashard Lawrence and Trevis Gibson to be our best options
I canāt imagine Jefferson will be there at our pick. My preferred is to wait until the end of round 2 to see if a good WR option is available due to the depth at the position. Claypool at the end of R2 is my ideal scenario because I think itās the best fit/value/impact. Reagor in R1 is also tempting due to his explosive playmaking ability and added value as a return man.
Are any of these guys teammates? Ie catching passes from the same QB?
How many offensive lineman do the Hawks need? lol
For the cost of what we’re paying for all this depth, we could of gotten Clowney and drafted some players who will probably be about as good.
It is what it is… keep throwing darts until they stick? š¤·āāļø
My money says they are doing this in preparation for rookies not having an impact due to restrictions. No rookie minicamp, limited training camp, etc. plus a thought came to mind that maybe with these limitations also comes players being in not as good of shape, so the idea is to stack up on Oline and have a rotation hahah we all laugh now until PC/JS are seen as geniuses once the season starts.
I’m curious about your thoughts on Fournette, any chance we try? Normally the Hawks at least inquire about players of his caliber. I’m thinking we could even trade for both him and Yannick, but that’s hopeful wishing. Got the feeling Clowney returns if we ain’t making any moves before draft.
I think it’s possible. But the reports today about him sleeping during meetings and being a diva don’t chime with the culture in Seattle.
Yea that doesn’t sound good for Fournette. If I remember correctly though, I think Marshawn had things like that said about him too, that’s why we got him fairly cheap. Jacksonville doesn’t have a good track record with their players either. Maybe it’s just him being unhappy in his situation, acting out. To be honest though I didn’t like him much coming out of college, always thought he was overrated. Other people like him though so I wasn’t sure.
Yes but in 2010 Seattle was desperate for a running identity and they had no culture. Ten years later theyāre in a very different situation.
True, thanks Rob.
I just posted this on twitter:
https://twitter.com/robstaton/status/1252372320108216321
Inspired by the fact Jonathan Taylor keeps bringing up the Seahawks in every national interview. He wants Seattle. Bring it on.
Love this!
Well if we donāt have the ability to draft him this year, he could be a free agent candidate in the future š.
Imagine if he dropped to 64 ala Metcalf. Due to wear and tearand ball security concerns along with the devaluation of the RB position. I always think itās funny to knock a guy for proving to be a bell cow without any major injury concerns.
I know… it wonāt happen. Iād take him at 27 myself.
It definitely won’t happen.
In my final mock for Wednesday he won’t even make it to 25.
Possible. Top 16 grade for me. Would happily take him at 27 tbh
Let me also say this — I want the Seahawks to draft players who want to play for this team.
It’s definitely a ‘fan’ type of thing to say. But that’s fine. I am a fan.
I want players who want to embrace the culture in Seattle and go for it. Because they’re going to be what they’re going to be. And you can’t win with people pulling in different directions.
So if that’s Jonathan Taylor because he admires the club, or Chase Claypool because he grew up a ‘Hawks fan, or Amik Robertson because he’ll be fired up to play for this club… bring it on. They’re all tough, talented and physical. And they want to be here.
I want to hear some excited phone calls on Thurs/Fri/Sat.
You can clearly see and hear he wants to be a Seahawk. Just not sure if it make sense to draft a RB that early. That being said he would fit this system perfectly.
amen.
I absolutely love this post. I also want Seattle to draft BAMF’s who want to play for this team. Add Robert Hunt to the list.
Yes, Yes, YES!!! My God Rob, I’m with you 100% on this! Way to state it!
Man this would be amazing. He is special and would fit this city/team like a glove.
Russel liked the tweet? LOL
I agree Rob! How cool would it be to see him get his wish?!
Alright finally did a mock. Glad I didn’t do this earlier or I wouldn’t have gotten any work done. Traded back to 48. Picked a couple extra picks. Think it is solid.
48.
Michael Pittman Jr.
WR USC
SEA 59.
Jabari Zuniga
DE Florida
SEA 64.
Davon Hamilton
DT Ohio State
SEA 79.
Willie Gay Jr.
OLB Mississippi State
SEA 101.
Logan Stenberg
G Kentucky
SEA 133.
Anthony McFarland
RB Maryland
SEA 144.
Michael Ojemudia
CB Iowa
SEA 158.
Hakeem Adeniji
OT Kansas
SEA 214.
Josh Metellus
S Michigan
Love Zuniga and Hamilton. Would prefer Taylor to a WR if he’s there and I take exception to Willie Gay at 79, but overall extremely good draft for me
Taylor was gone early 2nd. I love McFarland and I know it is unlikely, but a boy can dream.
Shame. I’m not as high on McFarland as some others. Size is really important at RB and a scout just referred to his character as “absolutely atrocious” “like a child”
It’s official, Joey Hunt signed his tender and he’s back. I might be the only happy about this but, well…I am!
ugh…Too many times have I seen Joey get knocked on his back, straight up pancaked.
Yeah, I’ve seen that too, several times, and like I said before, good on the nose tackle for getting the leverage. I’ve also seen Joey hold his position and drive guys back and own the center of the line during a play.
But not for an extended amount of time. Hunt does not hold up over the course of multiple games.
I disagree. I’ve watched him over many games and he holds his own. Sometimes he gets bowled over but many times he owns his space. Look at the whole picture, don’t just nitpick where it is convenient.
Look at the MVP candidacy of Russell Wilson and what happened to it and his stats after Joey Hunt took over at Center.
Really Bobby? You going to blame all that on Joey? What else happened during that time. Is he a first string C, no, but he stepped up and sure they heck held his own on more than one occasion and I believe he was injured the entire time. I’m talking to the wall here, I’ll stop.
Not guaranteed. I could be wrong.
Short and fat. That seems to be how Solari likes his interior guys.
Russell Wilson liked my Jonathan Taylor tweet.
Russ is involved now.
This is his superstar.
Oh good grief. That is awesome.
Here for it. Wont bat an eye
Omg this is crazy! Taylor is definitely getting drafted to Seattle lol
Is it possible he makes it to 40?
I doubt it
That’s so cool. Like number of mock you did, we can trade with Colts, Miami takes Swift and we get Taylor with 34th pick. It’s very much possible
Badger reunion. Make it happen.
Jonathan Taylor is to a Wisconsin RB as TJ Watt was to a Wisconsin stud pass rusher! Fool John Schneider once, … ???
As Russell Wilson is to a QB?!
Two out of three ain’t bad. Lets hope it’s not still one out of three after the draft.
Man, you’re never going to forgive them for passing on Watt are you?
quick hit up russ for an interview, thats your in!!! Lol
Cool but Russ will always have that wisconsin pride and I’m not surprised he’d rep a top Wisconsin prospect on twitter. Might not mean anything.
Tweet out that Quintez Cephus is a Superstar and the Hawks should look at him. That will settle it.
I said top wisconsin prospect, not late rounder.
Rob. It has got to be exciting that Russell Wilson reads your tweets.
I have a couple of questions on Amik Robertson. How would compare Tryann Mathieu with Robertson? Do you think Robertson could play safety?
I personally don’t think Kansas City defeats the 49ers in the Super Bowl without the Honey Badger. I see you have given Robertson a 5th round grade. I think Robertson might go before the 5th round. After listening to Robertson I believe he is going to make it in the NFL. This LOVES ball. He talks big. But he backs it up on the playing field.
BTW: Before I forget. Darryl Taylor is rising up the charts. Daniel Jeremiah Stills Taylor goes 3rd round. No question.
I think he can play safety, absolutely
I looked over the trades from 2017-2019 for late first round too mid second rounds (21 trades without trading future picks). The average difference in the value of picks trading up/down in the area of pick 21 to 45 was 5,57 (Rich Hill chart) or 25,9 (Jimmy Johnson chart)
The last three years JS traded up four times with our first pick for two additional picks:
2019: 21 to 30, 114, 118. Good deal for GB
Rich Hill: 260,82 to 246,86 (equals to pick 143) or Jimmy Johnson 800 to 744 (pick 120)
2019: 30 to 37, 132, 142. Also favores the Giants
Rich Hill: 196,31 to 193,5 (pick 215) or Jimmy Johnson 620 to 605 (pick 192)
2018: 18, 248 to GB 27, 76, 186. seems balanced
Rich Hill: 288,1 to 282,3 (pick 183) favores GB, JImmy Johnson 901 to 907 (pick 214) favores Seattle.
2017: 26 to Atlanta 31, 95, 249. Better deal for us
Rich Hill: 222,74 to 231,78 (pick 163) or Jimmy Johnson 700 to 720,9 (pick 177)
I would expect the same this year, maybe with the same two trade partners like 2019. Guess our position doesnt improve with the 49ers and Titans also open for a trade up. Making trades for a mid 3rd pick more complicated: 27 to ā¦
Colts 34 and 75: +21,62 (123) or +95 (102)
Lions 35 and 85: +4,74 (192) or +35 (143)
Chargers 37 and 71: +14,16 (142) or +85 (105)
Dolphins 39 and 70: +7,43 (171) or +70 (113)
Only scenario possible for me is a team reaching for a QB. Also trading 133 or 144 additionaly doesnt feel the JS way.
27 to later picks:
Browns 41 and 74: +6,29 (RH) or -30 (JJ) from Seattle perspective
Jags 42 and 73: +8,63 or -25
Colts 44 and 75: -18,69 or -5
Broncos 46 amd 77: -27,25 or -35
Browns got two third round picks. Could trade up for Cleveland or Winfield
Jags got three 4th rounders. Maybe (CB?)
Why should the Colts trade down from 44 and not 34?
Denver got three 3rd rounders. If they pick a WR first they could trade up for a better OT.
27 to 46, 77, 118, 252 seems realistic from a point of value (-1,88 or +23,75) and from JS preference to get additional picks. 181 instead of 252 feels like it would favor us too much in terms of quantity (4 picks) and value (+2,84 or +42)
Don’t know why it was posted also in a comment above.
Tried a mock gaining draft capital first without favoring one team (Rich Hill for one team, Jimmy Johnson for the other)
27 to GB 30, 137, 175
30 to Giants for 36, 110, 218
64 and 133 to Chargers 71, 112
11 Picks: 36, 59, 71, 101, 110, 112, 136, 144, 175, 214, 218
36. Josh Jones OT
59. Justin Madabuike DT
71. OLB Malik Harrison
101. Van Jefferson WR
110. Zack Moss RB
112. Amik Robertson CB
136. Kevin Dotson G
144. Trevis Gipson DE
175. Joe Reed WR
214. Josh Metellus S
218. Steven Montez QB
Kenny āHair Like Kiperā Sloth
Oh shiā¦.. it going down now
LOL
I got somr good ones in but there’s no coming back from that
What is your favorite hair product….. I mean, the hair doesn’t move… ever
Idk man I also called the Rose Bowl MVP a P***y in that thread so Mel Kiper is pretty on point
“I think this is a pretty good draft class overall. It’s really shaping up that way because of the underclassmen ā¦” ~ Mel Kiper
This is a hell of a stat
Taylor is the only RB who has gone for over 6000 yards in 3 seasons…. EVER in FBS history
wowza
The question is, is that good for his NFL career or not?
My mock for entry to the contest:
2.38 Isaiah Wilson, OT, Georgia
2.59 Jabari Zuniga, DE, Florida
3.69 Cam Akers, RB, Florida State
3.82 Davon Hamilton, DT, Ohio State
4.101 Van Jefferson, WR, Florida
4.116 Terrell Burgess, S, Utah
5.144 Trevis Gipson, DE, Tulsa
6.164 Cameron Clark, G, Charlotte
Save it for the official post yo!!
And you need 12 picks not 8.
Official post… where?
Like probably tomorrow or Wednesday.
Get your āofficialā 12 player mocks ready & look for the final submission thread to post them on in the days leading up to the draft. The cut off time for entries will be 8pm EDT / 5pm PDT on Thursday, April 23rd.
Hopefully it’s a different thread than the live draft comments
Yessir, Wednesday.
You could have at least explained each pick.
Chris Simms undervalued sleepers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWP8W0OchGk
He talks a ton about a lot of the guys we’ve talked about on this board – not first rounders, but value picks after the first round.
I’m hoping we trade back twice and end up with 5 or 6 picks in the 2nd and 3rd rounds and get a lot of the guys Simms talks about here. Here are a few:
Claypool WR
Van Jefferson WR
Anae DE
Zuniga DE
Taylor DE
Asiasi TE
Harrison OLB
McFarland RB
Go Hawks!
What I love about the draft is how you can really like an analyst and agree about 90% of what they say…and the 10% you couldn’t be more adamantly opposed.
I really like Chris Simms – I think his enthusiasm is great. I really like his underrated list, but hilariously, he said Cole Kmet is a bonafide 1st rounder and he looks at Seattle and sees a great landing spot.
First, Kmet is a poor athlete. Second, the Seahawks have 23 Tight Ends.
Anyways, not picking on Simms, whom I really like. The draft is just amazing because all of us can agree on so much yet see players in completely opposite ways.
Completely agree. Iāve loved half of Simmsā rankings and rolled my eyes at the other half
Because I am sure we will take one DT early I read about all DT from Bob McGinn reports, bruglers draft guide and Zierlein profiles and here are notes about everyones character:
Marlon Davidson :
Scouts:”has tremendous leadership ability and overwhelming love of the game”…āHe ran that room,ā…”he Is a badass”…
Brugler:”known as one of the harder workers in the program and called āemotionally matureā by his coaches”…
Justin Madubuike:
Scouts: “Heās got some character concerns. Just personality and small things off the field with his teammates.ā…”he doesnāt love football”…” I donāt think heās a tough guy”
Brugler: “An active competitor”
Ross Blacklock:
Brugler:”mature mindset and named a team captain as a junior (Blacklock: āIām not your average 21-year-old. Iām all business.ā).
Scouts from Bob articles:”Heās immature….I donāt think heās very tough or competitive”
Jordan Elliot:
Brugler:”voted a team captain in 2019 and well liked in the football building…emotional maturity was an issue for him at previous stops and his team interviews will ultimately determine where he is drafted”\
Neville Gallimore:
Brugler:”competes like a warrior in games, practice and the weight roomā¦blue collar background and work ethic was instilled in him at a young ageā¦steadily matured as a leader at OU (defensive coordinator Alex Grinch: āWhen he speaks up, the guys listen to himā).”
Zierlein;”Motor runs hot and never takes plays off…Never content and always looking for work
Raekwon Davis:
Brugler:’maturity has been questioned after he admittedly āgot caught upā with all the hype following his sophomore season, struggling as a junior and senior.”
Zierlein;”Scouts say maturity has been a concern in the past”
Leki Fotu:
Brugler:’plays through pain and pushes himself during practice and gamesā¦well-respected by coaches and teammates alike due to his humble but dogged mentality, never feeling content.”
There is nothing about Davon Hamilton
McGinn talked about Hamilton
But there is nothing important about his character…just that he plays hard…
Kristian Fulton, CB LSU
Trevon Diggs, CB Alabama
Madre Harper, CB S. Illinois
Bryce Hall, CB Virginia
James Pierre, CB Florida Atlantic
Cameron Danzler, CB Miss. St.
Amik Robertson, DB Louisiana Tech
Jonathan Greenard, DE Florida
Yetur Gross-Matos, DE Penn St.
Bradley Anae, DE Utah
Julian Okwara, DE Notre Dame
RonāDell Carter, DE James Madison
Trevis Gipson, DE Tulane
Alex Highsmith, DE Charlotte
Raekwon Davis, DT Alabama
Leki Fotu, DT Utah
Ross Blacklock, DT TCU
Zack Baun, EDGE Wisconsin
Terrell Lewis, EDGE Alabama
Nate Evans, LB UCF
DAVION TAYLOR, LB COLORADO PER SI.COM
Robert Hunt, OL La.-Lafayette
Kevin Dotson, OL La.-Lafayette
Logan Stenberg, OL Kentucky
Cordel Iwuagwu, OL TCU
Marcus Keyes, OL OK St.
Damien Lewis, OL LSU
Gus Lavaka, OL Oregon St.
James Morgan, QB Florida International
Jonathan Taylor, RB Wisconsin
AJ Dillon, RB Boston College
Zack Moss, RB Utah
Brandon Jones, S Texas
Ashtyn Davis, S Cal
Jeremy Chinn, S S. Illinois
Hunter Bryant, TE Washington
Nigel Kilby, TE Northwestern
Josiah Deguara, TE Cincinnati
Jalen Reagor, WR TCU
Van Jefferson, WR Florida
Was going to update Sea Mode’s excellent tracker, but the only added name was Davion Taylor out of Colorado. Track athlete, JUCO transfer that didnt play in high school due to family religious beliefs.
Also via SI “Taylor continued to excite scouts at the NFL Scouting Combine last month, where he ran a 4.49-second 40-yard dash. On Wednesday, he dramatically increased his draft stock, clocking an unofficial 4.37s 40.
Taylor improved his vertical jump as well, recording 35 inches at the Combine and 36 inches at his pro day. ”
4.35-4.39 via Jim Nagy
James Morgan speaks just like Russ. Seems like a great backup type.
He ended up the Conference USA Newcomer of the Year in 2018 after completing 65.3 percent of his passes for 2,727 yards and a school-record 26 touchdowns against just seven interceptions. He was honorable mention All-C-USA again in 2019 (207 of 357, 58.0 completion percentage, 2,585 yards, 14 touchdowns, five interceptions in 12 starts while playing through a knee injury).
Zach Moss doesn’t scream “starter” but he has a nice profile and broke six school records in 2019 (career carries, 712; career rushing yards, 4,167; career 100-yard rushing games, 18; career rushing touchdowns, 38; career all-purpose plays, 778; career total touchdowns, 41) and tied for two more (career 200-yard rushing games, 2; season rushing touchdowns, 15.
https://nesn.com/2020/04/aj-dillon-is-altering-nfl-draft-preparations-projected-for-third-round/
Boring AJ Dillon. Strikes me as a TOTAL Robert Turbin and I’d take him anywhere after the top 100 so early fourth. He’s a situational guy but you know what you’re getting. Plus hands.
TE Nigel Kilby didn’t do anything in college but he was haulin ass at his pro day.
Kilby ran a 4.66-second 40-yard dash at 6-foot-7 and 254 pounds at Northwestern’s Pro Day (via Adam Schefter)
6’7+ Pass catcher hasn’t ran faster than 4.7 since 2006. Bonus points to whoever guesses the player!
Deguara’s got some hops and went from oft injured and fighting for snaps to team captain.
It would seem to appear we’re looking for a move TE if we take one. Either Hunter Bryant or one of these guys, if we can take these visits at face value.
Van Jefferson’s dad played under Pete Carroll his entire New England tenure and is now assistant head coach of the Jets.
https://www.dallascowboys.com/video/coaches-virtual-draft-interview-jalen-reagor-2020
Here is some of THE ACTUAL FACETIME VISIT the Cowboys had with Reagor who’s dad played in the NFL for 9 years
Dotson has NFL bloodlines his uncles, Alvin and Dennis McKinley, played in the NFL for the Cleveland Browns and Arizona Cardinals, respectively.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/draftwire.usatoday.com/2020/03/21/nfl-draft-prospects-2020-kevin-dotson-louisiana-interview/amp/
And here’s the same guy with Hunt
https://www.google.com/amp/s/draftwire.usatoday.com/2020/03/27/nfl-draft-prospects-2020-robert-hunt-louisiana-interview/amp/
Here he’s got Igwaugwu
https://www.google.com/amp/s/draftwire.usatoday.com/2020/03/15/nfl-draft-prospects-2020-cordel-iwuagwu-tcu-interview/amp/
Aaaand Logan Stenberg
https://www.google.com/amp/s/draftwire.usatoday.com/2020/03/02/nfl-draft-2020-prospects-logan-stenberg-kentucky-interview/amp/
Okwara on Draftwire:
https://draftwire.usatoday.com/2020/01/22/2020-nfl-draft-prospects-julian-okwara-notre-dame-interview/
His Brother playa with the Giants
Marcus Keyes had horrible numbers at his pro day after saying he needs to “put up numbers” in an interview
His father, also named Marcus Keyes, played on the defensive line for the Chicago Bears from 1996-1997 and then some arena ball.
Gus Lavaka is big 350 lb Beaver that I hope we don’t draft
Leno Fotu reminds me of a healthy Jesse Williams. Not as energetic, but has that Rugby background and ran a 5.1~ at 330~
https://kslsports.com/431251/leki-fotu-utah-nfl-draft-pandemic/
Here’s 20~ minutes of Leki Fotu on the overdraft process
Alex Highsmith is a hard sell as a late bloomer at a low level but these quotes are nicE
Clemson LT Jackson Carman unprompted on DL Alex Highsmith, Sept. 24 (Matt Connolly, The State):
āHe was a dude. Iāve been playing football for 12 years and heās by far the fastest off the ball Iāve ever gone against. Ever.ā
Clemson head coach Dabo Swinney prior to Sept. 21 contest vs. Charlotte:
āHeās on all the āgreat playerā lists. I kept watching him and going, āHoly cow.ā He looks like Xavier Thomas. Heās physical, fast, disruptive. Heās causing sacks and tips. Really, really good football player. That No. 5 could play for anybody in the country.ā
Trevis Gipson’s pro day was excellent and I think he’s right in our range of players and deserves a deeper look from me.
His favorite team… The Seahawks. Hope he lasts to the fifth. Might be dreaming.
Here he talks with PFF
https://youtu.be/IInZBPrxNyA
Bradlee Anae’s dad played All-American DE for BYU and onto the Eagles. His uncle and grandpa also played for BYU.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2885886-video-miss-sts-cam-dantzler-runs-438-40-after-clocking-464-at-nfl-combine.amp.html
Cam Dantzler’s name makes me excited. He lacks 32 inch arms but apparently ran a sub 4.4 40. (Apparently Delpit broke 4.4 on the same track)
That wasn’t a real sub-4.4.
Everyone ran fast on that track. Suspect it was heavily wind assisted.
Thanks Rob. Maybe we’re not seriously targeting any of these SBs
Some of these CBs*
Madre Harper was on the Pedestrian Podcast that Rob frequents recently.
He had the most insane pro day workout. 40″ vert 11′ broad. 33″ arms
Wow didnt know this about Fulton (via his wikipedia)
Fulton appeared in three games as a freshman, making two tackles. Following the season, Fulton was suspended by the NCAA for two seasons after he tampered with a drug test for performance enhancing drugs on February 2, 2017.[6] He appealed the decision, arguing that he believed that the test was for recreational narcotics, but the initial appeal was denied in March of 2017. Fulton sat out the entirety of the 2017 season, but remained with the team and participated in daily practices.
Overturned on second appeal. Hes a lil Richard Sherman isnt he?
Wow, great stuff, Kenny! Just like our collabs back in the day!
Nice eye on Taylor. I’ve added him to the tracker.
We dont get face time interviews (Rob does tho) might as well dig up the juicy/irreverent stuff
Via Kristian Dyer if you wanted the name
Brandon Jones played a TON of college ball at Texas. One of the top top top recruits coming out of school. No numbers on him besides a small frame.
From the same small town (Nacogdoches, Texas) as Clint Dempsey, he finished his collegiate career with 233 tackles, 14 tackles for loss, one sack, two forced fumbles, three fumble recoveries and two blocked kicks with 11 passes defended and four interceptions in 47 games played
He has four brothers – Bryson, Brayden, Brennan and Braxton. Dad is Bert. Lmao. Dad played college ball at Stephen F Austin.
Here’s another draftwire Q+A
https://www.google.com/amp/s/draftwire.usatoday.com/2020/03/16/nfl-draft-prospects-2020-brandon-jones-texas-interview/amp/
Ashtyn David was a 4x All-American in the hurdles.
I learned that Evan Weaver went to UCLA Idk that before looking into Davis!
https://www.google.com/amp/s/draftwire.usatoday.com/2020/03/03/2020-nfl-draft-ashtyn-davis-scouting-report/amp/
No numbers on Davis so here’s another Draft Wire interview cuz I’m crashing and the quality of this thread is rapidly dwindling
I’ll tell you what, and you can bet this is highly opinionated…
To me, Ash Davis is Taylor Rapp football IQ in a Darnell Savage package with a rocket engine under his belly.
Does he habe some lousy film? Awww, yes.
Can he be a turnover creator we are desperately lacking? Awww, yes.
What is his floor? He is also a class-act as a returner.
Will the Seahawks draft S? If they plan to create more cap space to pay a top pass rusher, they better do.
OL is the new toilet paper. You gotta buy them all
Doing that dirty work in the trenches?
you only notice them when they are not working
So i decided to look at positional spending for the 2020 year, (numbers provided by OverTheCap)*
QB- 31 M (1)
Skill- 38.4 M (16) AVG 2.4 M
* RB/FB- 7.6 M (5)
* WR- 18.2 M (7)
* TE- 12.6 M (4)
O-Line- 49.6 M (18) AVG 2.76 M
* OT- 19.8 M (5)
* OG- 12.8 M (10)
* OC- 17 M (3)
D-Line- 22.3 M (11) AVG 2.03 M
* DE- 9.3 M (5)
* DT- 13 M (6)
Linebackers- 32.5 M (8) AVG 4.06 M
* OLB- 16.9 M (6)
* MLB- 15.6 M (2)
Secondary-22. 8 M (11) AVG 2.07 M
* CB- 8.2 M (5)
* S- 14.6 M (6)
Special Teams- 5.5 M (3) AVG 1.83 M
* K- 3.6 M
* P- 822.5 K
* LS- 1.04 M
* I have included Bruce Irvin (4M cap hit prediction), Mike Iupati (2M cap hit prediction), Luke Willson (887.5 K under the new CBA), and Khalil McKenzie (750K cap hit due to having only 2 accrued seasons).
Noticed that the least amount of money spent on a positional group besides Special Teams this year is the D-line. Also noticed that we have now 10 guards on the roster, which makes me think we might take a left and right tackle in this draft and probably within the first three rounds.
So depending on how much Seattle likes Julian Okwara (the only legit LEO candidate in the early rounds), I could see Seattle doing the following (assuming we have 5 day 2 picks)
1. Julian Okwara
2. Matt Peart
3. Lucas Niang
4. Davon Hamilton
5. Zack Moss or Antonio Gibson or John Hightower
I like it. I like Okwara a lot, Hamilton too. Not sure I’d want two OTs, maybe one other rusher like Zuniga or Uche or Baun instead, but I like it all in all
I’ll be honest…I have absolutely zero clue of what will be our first pick.
I feel like there is almost equal chance for WR (strength of the draft), RB (sort of strength and also sort of need), OL (strength and sort of need but we have ton of mediocre depth on the roster already), DE/EDGE (huge need, but weak class), DT (have some interesting prospects but we have Reed and there are questionmarks about most of the prospects), LB (kinda need with KJ’s getting old, Barton/BBK didn’t show much, we need a SAM, it could generate passrush but that’s not rushing with four, not sure about how good the LBs are), CB (we never draft CB early, like 90% unlikely…but the draft is shallow, some interesting guys earlier, nCB is huge need…really unlikely, but after this offseason I don’t even know PCJS anymore lol)
QB, TE, S is really-really-really unlikely. As we have like 10 OGs, I’d say OG is unlikely too.
I’d give odds of like:
35% EDGE/DE
18% DT
17% OT
10% RB
10% WR
6% LB
3% CB
1% S
Same here. This is the year where I feel totally unsure what our first pick will be.
Today I will be publishing a big draft preview. Iām also joining a zoom conference with Kyle Whittingham the Utah coach.
Awesome he is one of my favorite CFB coaches. Will you be posting it on the blog?
Yep
Nice…Moss, Fotu, Burgess, Guidry all Utah guys
I have 2 of those in my mock.
Julian Blackmon too…
Don’t forget Anae, and there is Jaylon Johnson among others that are interesting. Utah had an incredible amount NFL talent on their roster. Especially on defense. This is amazing Rob, I am really looking forward to hearing this interview. You are absolutely killing it and deserve way more than we can give you.
I think in next 24h Seahawks will send this year 2nd round (probably 59th pick) and next year 3rd round pick to JAX for YN and will give him 16-18apy on 4 years.
I think thereās more chance of Euro 2020 taking place this summer after all
What is so unreal to you, that they will trade for him at all or that compensation would be so low?
That they will trade for him in the next 24 hours.
It’s impossible to get a medical arranged in that timeframe for starters. And we have to appreciate the difficulty of a situation like this. It’s Earl Thomas all over again. Jacksonville open to trading a key player, just like Seattle was. But teams know that and aren’t willing to pay a big price. But as a team you can’t/won’t give him away. So you end up in a stalemate.
My expectation is he won’t be moved and that Jacksonville will eventually trade him for 2021 compensation later in the year.
Fair enough…
Yes I agree its the same situation as with Thomas…maybe Jax will play smarter then John did with Earl…
I agree its a problem to do medicals but its the same for players who are free now…Griffen, Clowney etc…I still think there is chance they sign someone of that 3 (not big one though)
Sincerely I don’t know what to think…YN is player who didn’t have problems with injuries, and you always can cancle the trade if he doesn’t pass medical tests…but problem would be if you think you have him, don’t draft for edge and then he doesn’t pass phisicals…we will see…
Oooooppppsss…I forgot that they cant cancel trade if JAX use that pick during draft…
Exactly. Jacksonville basically have to do something today or this aint happening in all likelihood. And I can’t see them going from being nowhere near a trade yesterday and today having a trade agreed, a contract sorted, a medical arranged. That isn’t happening. I think the likelihood is Seattle will still be waiting to try and fix the pass rush after the draft and Jacksonville will settle on making a trade later in the year for 2021 compensation.
Yes…when I realized that, in a joke I wanted to say “then it will happen in next 6-8 hours”… š
Just one more note…they don’t need to sort contract before draft…he will need to sign tag with JAX before trade, and he will be under that contract (price tag for 2020) with new team until he sign new one…
If you’re trading for him, you need a contract sorted. Especially at the price you mentioned.
Good luck to all. Thanks to David C., PFN and Rob for this fun exercise. Peace, Brian
SDB Mock
1.27 Patrick Queen LB Louisiana State
2.39 Raekwon Davis DT Alabama
2.39 Julian Okwara DE Notre Dame
2.59 Malik Harrison LB Ohio State
2.64 Chase Claypool WR Notre Dame
3.92 Cam Akers RB Florida State
4.101 Davon Hamilton DT Ohio State
5.133 Alton Robinson DE Syracuse
5.144 Antonio Gibson RB/WR Memphis
6.185 Anfernee Jennings DE Alabama
6.214 Tipa Galea’i DE Utah State
7.218 Tanner Muse S Clemson
Just a quick note that entries need to be posted in the specific thread tomorrow.
I just did a PFN mock (not my mock draft competition entry, don’t worry I know that’s not this thread) that I thought was quite interesting. I grabbed two excellent players at need positions early on and then with my third second round pick Jeremy Chinn was still on the board, and with two picks already spent filling more obvious needs, I felt he would be exactly the kind of player they would draft to develop. I moved down multiple times with the 71st pick I got from the initial trade down out of the first, targeting a group of WRs and ended up still getting my preference. I also moved up for Amik, even though he would probably have still been there in the sim, but I wanted to reflect his rising stock. It’s also the first time in a while I’ve not taken Rob Hunt, who I’m a big fan of, but I also think that having added so much Oline depth already I think they’ll stick with the plan of playing vets and drafting developmental guys on day 3.
I think it’s a cool draft anyway and, hopefully, somewhat realistic.
37. Raekwon Davis, DT Alabama
54. Clyde Edwards-Helaire, RB LSU
64. Jeremy Chinn, S Southern Illinois
84. Bryan Edwards, WR South Carolina
96. Amik Robertson, CB Louisiana Tech
144. Trevis Gipson, DE Tulsa
165. Alex Taylor, OT SC State
186. Quez Watkins,WR Southern Miss
214. Kevin Dotson, G Louisiana
Tweet about Logan Wilson…there were some reports that he is riser and could be 1st round pick…
He’s not better than LVE but he’s really good.
Let the buildup begin (to nothing happening…)
Almost feels like they’re trying to generate something to talk about because there’s nothing going on.
If I were a redskins fan, I would want them to trade back. They are seriously lacking in draft capital and have a lot of holes.
Josina reported the Browns are talking to them about Trent Williams, that might help their draft capital if they can work something out, but it’d have to all fall in place very quickly, with physicals etc.
You want to be the bully again?
44. Isaiah Wilson, OT Georgia
59. Joshua Uche, OLB Michigan
64. Davon Hamilton, DT Ohio State
75. Bryan Edwards, WR South Carolina
94. Darrell Taylor, OLB Tennessee
101. Zack Moss, RB Utah
133. Ben Bredeson, G Michigan
144. Trevis Gipson, DE Tulsa
246. Jake Hanson, C Oregon
251. Rodrigo Blankenship, K Georgia
All players are tough, played at the highest level in college, and are winners. I don’t think Uche lasts that long, but the mock had Okwara and Zuniga going way before, so I would swap him out with either of those two. Sign Clowney (hopefully), or Griffen and this is a great start to a potential SB run.
The š kicker really puts us over the top. Doesn’t get much more BAMF than that…
(like the draft, though!)
Haha I want that kicker… Think it would be great to get a cheap and quality kicker. But yeah, I would love this draft. Focuses on the lines and like you said, some BAMF.
Rob thought you might be interested in this. I checked out walter football because the two writers had the most accurate mock drafts last year. Here is the link if anyone is interested.
https://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/accuracy/mock-drafts.php
Here is what he said in his most recent mock after he mocked Josh Uche to the Hawks. He referenced your work directly.
“I would be shocked if the Seahawks remain at No. 27. They always trade down, so here’s another instance in which they’ll do so. They can then obtain someone like Josh Uche in the 35-45 range.
Rob Staton of SeahawksDraftBlog.com did a great job of breaking down what the Seahawks look for in the draft. The Seahawks tend to select players who thrive at the Senior Bowl. Uche was certainly one of the winners at Mobile, and he compares to Bruce Irvin, whom the Seahawks selected in the first round long ago. “
Nice to see people giving credit, finally.
Nice one
Danny & Gallant had a nice segment this morning and brought up an interesting question – with the bevy of OL already on the roster; do the Seahawks just punt on an early round OL this year?
They said that 2011 had a shorter offseason and the OL was a disaster, with specific references to Carpenter and Moffit. Carpenter ended up being an average OL, but it took time.
I mentioned it earlier, but my guess is that the first few picks are guys that can get on the field right away without having to master the playbook/offseason. I think Uche fits that bill – rush the passer on 3rd down and we will bring you up to speed on other nuances. I think Hamler and Reagor fit the mold – threaten opposing defenses with a simpler route tree. I think Taylor and CEH fit the bill as guys who could step in right away and contribute.
I think that’s what makes this year so interesting. We need immediate impact but there’s also the notion that this could be a lost season for a lot of younger players that need time to develop. They don’t get the usual offseason.
Food for thought and while I don’t necessarily agree with punting on early OL – I don’t think the thought behind it is that crazy. In fact, it does make sense to me. Last point, Seattle hardly ever exercises the 5th year option – so you are talking 4 years with a R1/R2 OL where you are pretty much redshirting them in year 1. I don’t know if that’s a wise investment when you are in your SB window (not that the roster is there – more of a reflection of the QB we have).
Good post. You would think that a team in their window would be even more likely to trade a draft pick for a veteran because of this.
Agreed. And just to expound, maybe there is some self reflection with “the OL we have drafted haven’t exactly done well in our system.”
While I wasn’t a fan of Ifedi, Britt, Carpenter…I wouldn’t call them failures by any stretch of the imagination. I would argue that they were not worth the draft capital – mainly because they were average talents at positions that I’d contend are not premium.
I’ve evolved to the point that unless you think said IOL prospect can be a top guy at their position or said prospect can play LT – I don’t think I’d invest early on the OL. I’d rather pay a premium in Free Agency knowing said player can perform. I’d save the early draft capital for guys you think can be difference makers – I said it before, but I had no problem with the Malik McDowell pick because he had difference making talent. It’s why I didn’t like Collier because I just saw an average ceiling.
Last point – I would also not draft overaged OL/DL. I’m beating a dead horse, but there is such a physical maturity discrepancy in college when you are 23+ that I am always concerned that this is why guys have success rather than them being “actual good O-lineman.”
While it is paramount to have depth on your roster, that depth doesn’t mean a whole lot if you don’t have high end talent. It’s hard to win a Super Bowl…it’s much harder when you have a middling roster.
I expect them to take only one developmental OT, mid/late rounds.
That’s my hope…I really don’t want to see an early OL pick this year, unless it is Cesar Ruiz.
Then you’ll be begging them to pick one next year in a worse class. We’re picking a tackle with 1 of our first 3 picks. Lock it in.
OK. Locked.
I think the first 4 picks will be either ‘weapons for Russ’ (WR or RB) or DL, whichever way the board falls.
Not ‘either/or,’ but ‘and.’
First 4 picks: RB, WR, DL, Edge in any order.
Get back to me when we pick an OT lol. It’s happening.
Tony P. already said they want to address both lines. Does that sound like waiting til the what, 5th round to pick an OL? You think they would add another WR (not a huge need) or a RB that early?
Weapons are a luxury pick that early, OT is a legitimate need now and in the future.
Dude, nobody knows what they will do – not even Tony Pauline, as much as I respect his work. And yes, he’s most likely right and not claiming that I know more than him (that’s idiotic).
WR is absolutely a need, as is RB. We can debate where that is on the priority list. This offense was barely functional when Tyler Lockett got hurt and Lockett is no spring chicken. Also, we have 2 RBs coming off major injuries, and again, when they were out – it dramatically changed the run game.
Again – debate the priority of that need, but they are needs no doubt. I know people like to think “games are won in the trenches,” but they are not. They are won by great QBs and difference makers that threaten the opposing team. Can those players be in the trenches? Of course, but I hate this “you need an elite OL to win” mentality. It’s simply not true.
OT is absolutely a long term need, which is why I have said that if they do draft an OT early, it better be a guy they think is the heir apparent to Duane Brown. This team doesn’t need Germain Ifedi 2.0 or a non-pass rushing 5T – they need guys who can create turnovers, sacks, touchdowns – difference makers. I’m actually fine with drafting an OT if the outlook is “he’s definitely the LT of the future.” That’s a long term need that every team should always be on the lookout for.
Where I differ from many on this board is, I don’t think drafting a non-LT in the first round is smart idea unless you think said player can be one of the top guys in the NFL. This team needs to stop accumulating middling talent at non-premium positions with their top picks – it is the reason why the roster is in such bad shape as it is now.
This entire comment thread was predicated on a talking point about how this unique offseason *might* lend credence to the idea that they are willing to punt on “developmental guys” or players who won’t contribute in year one. This team has a diminishing Super Bowl window – I’d rather take my chances on a one dimensional difference maker, this year, over drafting a guy who needs a few years to become a league average Tackle.
Chances are I’m wrong about that. I’m just presenting a different scenario based on the most unique offseason the NFL has or will ever have (virus). I will totally blunt here – I don’t care who Russell’s Left Tackle is when he’s 35 years old. I care about what this team can do to win a Super Bowl in the next 3 years because 35 year old RW is a whole different animal than the guy we have now. The roster will have to be dramatically different at that point.
Agree to disagree.
I agree that it will be a LT prospect though.
That’s fine. Don’t expect you to agree with me.
Who do you think is a fit at LT? I’m genuinely curious.
What’s with the attitude here?
I won’t be begging them next year to draft one. I’d rather see us utilize free agency or trades to address OL.
Agree. If Finney and Shell work out, play to Seahawk standards, they might only need a veteran OG to replace Fluker.
Upgrade but don’t reach.
Finney isn’t a tackle. And if people complained about Ifedi, they’re going to complain about Shell.
Even if Shell is an All-Pro, The only OTs we have on the roster are 33 year old Duane Brown, Shell, Ogbuehi and Chad Wheeler. We’re picking an OT early.
What attitude? Lol
It’s an expression to point out that what we have is not enough. If we don’t pick one early, you won’t like the results. Not to mention how thin we are for the future. Didn’t mean anything negative by it, just words man lol
OK, I’m locking it in, getting back to you, expecting an OT early.
Who? When?
Are you talking Wilson at #27 or Peart at #64 or other? Easy to bluster without specifics. And if and when they do take an OL early, you’ll be the first to let us know, confusing your generalizations for reasoned analysis.
Just words, man. LOL.
Get your panties out of the bunch. You misinterpreted my comment and got butthurt. Which BTW my comment wasn’t even to you. So idk why you’re being such a little girl.
I’ve posted many times here multiple options and have gone in depth multiple times on why OT is going to be likely our top pick. I’ve been saying it all off season.
I would give you my list and possible ranges, but something tells me that you don’t care to hear that. Have a good day man.
‘Panties’ and ‘butthurt’ are non-starters with me. Move on.
You’re the one who started being a smarta** over nothing. Like I said have a good day.
Worth noting that my “little girl” is more composed than the person using that descriptor as an insult.
Keep the attacks isolated to comments on Field Gulls. This is a chill place to discuss the Seahawks and should remain that way.
This is true.
Personal attacks won’t be tolerated.
Bayahawk, Mishima came at me sideways and it was disrespectful. I explained to Matt that I didn’t mean anything by what I said and Mishima continued. Am I supposed to just take that? No lol. I was speaking draft and got smart*** remarks repeatedly. I’m not just going to let someone talk to me like that.
Can everyone just chill out please?
Thank you
There is some logic to this up to a point. The loss of early season workouts and practices will certainly make it harder for rookies in general to make an impact, some positions in particular, including the O-line.
I donāt think Seattleās FO thinks of Russell as being in a 3-year window. That is a media-manufactured story line used to create some drama that fans have begun repeating. Have you ever heard PCJS ever say anything remotely like that? No. And if they donāt believe it, it wonāt affect their drafting. With Russellās past health and his dedication to training, he is far more likely to play 7 more years than 3 in my opinion.
What could affect their drafting of OL is the new coach and power blocking scheme which favors size. If you look at Solariās draft history before coming to Seattle it seemed to favor mid-round developmental players. But, if there is a big guy who is an accomplished run and pass blocker with Pro-Bowl potential and great TEF (Isaiah Wilson) you know they will consider him.
The Seahawks donāt overpay at any position so I wouldnāt make a broad claim that OL wonāt get second contracts. I donāt think they would have any problems paying to keep a really good OL. Britt got a second contract. Nobody else really earned one.
Never said Pete said Russell has 3 more years.
I am saying you probably have 3 more years of RW being arguably a top 3 QB in the NFL. Once he hits 35, there will absolutely be regression. I’m not saying he will be bad, not at all. But, there is a monumental difference between being a top 3 QB and a top 10 QB. And the quality of roster needed to win with the 8th best QB is far different than the roster needed to win with the 2nd best QB. That’s just reality.
I have no doubt that RW will play until he is 40. I’m simply making a point as to what the quality of his will be the rest of his career. I don’t think it’s crazy to say 3 years is probably the window of him at his peak/prime. He will absolutely not be the same QB when he loses another step and arm strength ticks down.
I think you are taking some of my points a little too literal. I’m not making a broad claim that they will never sign an OL to a second contract. I made a point that they haven’t exercised the 5th year option on players. That’s the trend…not that they will NEVER do it.
I have no doubt that they would draft an OL in R1, like they have…I was simply raising a question/point that was brought up on local sports radio that made some sense to me. This season is unprecedented in many ways. I have no doubt that teams will approach things differently this year. The Seahawks happen to be in a unique position where they have a smaller window with an Elite level QB. We aren’t the Chiefs that have an All-World QB who is 25 – our QB is in his 30s. Not to mention, we are also in an incredibly tough division that is getting significantly stronger. I’m merely raising the point that we don’t necessarily have the same time/window to slowly develop guys like the Cardinals (for example) can.
Generally I’d agree with that Matt.
But what I keep coming back to, is this is a rich draft for OTs. You could get quality into the second round, and that aint nothing. Usually there are good starters at tackle in the top 15 and the rest are projects and prospects. Either raw guys with great size but need technique work or guys with experience but physical limitations.
But not this year.
The Hawks’ swing tackle signed a $30m contract. The tackle market is insane.
It might be worth it to punt on playing your OL draft pick in 2020 but not punt on drafting an OL pick.
Fair take.
If they draft a Tackle with their first pick, it has to be a guy they think can play Left Tackle. I don’t want any part of a non-LT Tackle with the first pick. Said player might play RT for a few years, but I hope it’s a guy that they truly think is the heir apparent to Duane Brown.
Bottom line – they need their first pick to contribute. They can’t keep whiffing in R1 with guys who don’t play or guys who are middling at best. It’s why this roster is where it is at today.
Not to mention, as bad as the OL has been – the offense has performed extremely well. So that begs the question – do they really need to sink a bunch of resources into the OL? I think it’s a legitimate question.
Really, at the end of the day (for me), I just don’t trust this staff to draft/develop a good Tackle – which is why I prefer the FA or trade route, on that front.
You know that the way the Jets structured that contract protects them if Fant doesn’t work out. Only about $13 million guaranteed, most in 1st year. IMO, it’s a low risk, high potential reward for the Jets.
I would have no problem with them drafting Wilson, Hunt, etc. early, but also think they have greater needs.
Tom Pelissero just listed Robert Hunt among five potential surprise R1 picks.
Wow, that is quite the rise up the draft board if it happens! That must also mean that teams are looking at him as a tackle…
To Seattle right?? That would be a bit surprising but they always take THEIR guy no matter what. (Cue up the confused Nick Saban mouthing, “James Carpenter??” clip)
Funny you mention that one…in the Saban-Belichick documentary he said (summarizing), “I have guys drafted by organizations who never call me. Like, how do you not call and ask about the player? I will tell you everything.”
So…while I appreciate them “wanting to get their guy no matter what,” it is not necessarily a great business practice.
It was when they had a more complete team. Maybe they were willing to take more risk? Though i guess Collier and Penny could be viewed in a similar way. Great doc though. The Two Bills is great also.
Totally. Those rosters were so loaded, you could kinda do what you wanted in the draft.
….aaaand look where that got us: wasting the LOB….
Dang, you’ve been right about this kid all along. I really hopes he lasts a bit though, at least to wherever we trade down from.
Just watched an amazing profile on Robert Hunt on NFL Network’s Good Morning Football. What an amazing story! Definitely hope he lands in Seattle.
Based on absolutely nothing but gut feeling, I think SEA will draft 2 players from the following pool, possibly 3 depending on who falls:
-Raekwon Davis
-Julian Okwara
-Jabari Zuniga
-Josh Uche
-Zack Baun
I know this is the content you guys come here for…all intuition, no analysis or reason given!
Rob quick question for you what do think about the supplemental draft this summer do you think more guys might enter it . because the uncertainty of the college football season this year.just your thoughts.or do you think there might not even have one.. for some reason I can see some guys saying sign me up
For me Raekwon Davis feels like a lock.
I like Raekwon and they desperately need someone like him on the DL.
But this is a draft loaded with gritty players who absolutely fit them like a glove personality wise. And that, sadly, isn’t Raekwon. So we’ll see.
I’ll be honest, that was probably the most disappointing interview you posted for me, personally. He’s such a fit physically, but the personality that came through on the interview was not what I was expecting at all. Compare his interview to Hunt or Robertson…that’s what I want.
He’s on my list for the physical profile alone.
That’s what’s so cool about the interviews Rob has done. It’s a huge piece of the evaluation process that we rarely get to see (combine podium interviews) and didn’t see at all this year.
I agree, that Raekwon VS Robertson was night and day. Really liked Amik’s fire and attitude. Davis doesn’t seem like he has that same passion for the game.
I don’t know to be honest Robert. It might be more beneficial to stay in college. Teams are in flux and don’t know what the future holds. So they might be less inclined to use the supp draft.
Here’s a late day 3/UDFA CB to look at: Luq Barcoo, San Diego State. Was at the Shrine Game.
Led the nation in INT (9) and PBU (16) in 2019. (Dropped one in the game I watched vs. Jordan Love as well.)
6’1″, 180, 32 arm, 75.25 wing, 9 hand, 4.43 40 (laser), 4.11 SS, 6.84 3C, 41 vert, 11’3″ broad.
Pro day video: https://twitter.com/luqmanbarcoo/status/1248328859268734976
Highlights: https://youtu.be/AgoM2lH7_bI
Said he has had interest from about 20 teams. Hard to project him to the slot though since he played outside.
I’d draft him for the name alone.
Good agility numbers forecast well for the slot
Per Pelissero and Rapoport:
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001110281/article/2020-nfl-draft-will-injury-issues-impact-five-notable-prospects
https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1252595784945672199
New Chargers unis.
Love them. I’ve always liked their uniforms. The all-navy and powder jersey/yellow pants are the favorites.
Not sure I like the numbers on the helmets though. A bit old-timey but I’m willing to give them a shot.
Oh I love those…they were already my favorite uniform. That dark jersey is amazing.
Love them.
I dig the numbers on the helmets. Old school and/or Bama-esque.
Same. We finally have a team that went with the ‘old is new again’ model. Now if we could just the Orange crush Broncos, creamsicle Bucs, etc.
Loved Lee Roy Selmon & those ’76 Buc unis.
The chargers should have stayed in San Diego. Itās a great place that deserves a pro team. Two nfl teams makes no sense in la where they canāt even fill up UCLA games anymore. Itās not a football town. Plus the rams and chargers have way too similar color schemes to share a city.
The rams are the perfect fit for la because outside of Donald theyāre a tacky team and la is a tacky town. San Diego fans deserve a team, and San Diego is much nicer to visit these days than la, even if their stadium was a hellscape
Rob, have you ever done a post where you looked back a few years and evaluated how you did with your draft projections? Not so much where or by whom the guys you liked were drafted, but how they performed in their careers. My suspicion is that you have had more “hits” than “misses”. I for one would find that really interesting. On an unrelated note, thank you for all of your hard work. I look at your site multiple times a day (probably when I shouldn’t be) and always learn interesting things.
It would be a fun exercise and I agree that Rob would have a ton of hits. You always have to wonder how much of the “misses” have to do with the circumstances, rather than simply missing on the talent.
AJ Dillon had the lowest forced missed tackle per carry rate at .25, it’s a big part of the reason a lot of people have him solidly in the 3rd/4th tier of backs in this class (depending on how you rate the top guys)
Maybe not surprising but on the flip side he was the best RB through contact. 79 missed tackles forced, 1,104 yards after contact. Not going to force a miss, but going to break a tackle. Depends on your style.
I love him as a short yardage between the tackles grinder who can occasionally break a big run. I don’t think he’s your 3 down bellcow though, so taking him in the 3rd might be too early. I think he’d be a great compliment to Penny though.
Feels like if nothing happens today on the trade front it’s not going to happen until summer.
Getting physicals organized is hard enough. Then you have a contract extension, etc.
So it’s really hard to count on any blockbuster deals involving players.
Would it be better getting Taylor/Helaire with an early 2nd, or Akers/Moss/Dillon in the late 3rd?
Also, when the heck are the Panthers gonna cut Mike Davis lol. Personally hoping they can add Davis for close to vet minimum, and one of the rookies above.
Akers in the late 3rd is the best “value” and most ideal scenario, IMO. He really could be a game changing RB in the NFL.
I’m not that high on Moss and Dillon. Dillon just leaves so much to be desired once you watch him. Love the size and speed…it just doesn’t pop on tape.
I know I’m an outlier with Moss. He’s certainly physical, but the injury history and the lack of athleticism worries me. I don’t know how long he will hold up in the NFL. And I just don’t think he’s a difference maker to justify a R3 selection. I’m probably just jaded because I think so lowly of the Pac-12.
IF we do go RB early-ish – it’s gotta be a guy who we think will be a big time difference maker. To me, that’s limited to Taylor, Swift, Dobbins, CEH, and Akers. If you don’t get one of those guys, just wait and grab a flyer or two in the late rounds. I have the same stance with WR – unless you think a guy is a bonafide #1 or #2 – find a complimentary guy later on with a specific trait you want.
Good question.
IMO, I think Taylor and Swift go top 25 and I’m not a fan of Moss or Dillon, so for me, it’s between CEH with our first pick (after trade down) or Akers with our 2nd or 3rd pick.
Split between CEH/Hamilton, Uche/Akers, Davis/X with Moss, later.
Realistic? No way! But so freakin’ awesome – I would love a draft like this one!
36.
Jonathan Taylor
RB Wisconsin
59.
Raekwon Davis
DT Alabama
64.
Robert Hunt
OT Louisiana
92.
Chase Claypool
WR Notre Dame
106.
Davon Hamilton
DT Ohio State
133.
Trevis Gipson
DE Tulsa
149.
Antonio Gibson
RB Memphis
170.
Alex Taylor
OT SC State
191.
Julian Blackmon
CB Utah
235.
Jonathan Garvin
OLB Miami
I’d love that draft. I think the top 5 guys contribute in a meaningful way in year 1, which is what this team desperately needs.
Heavy on both lines, especially the D-line with big, athletic dudes! Plus some developmental guys like Garvin and A. Taylor.
Why you need another running back when you picked Taylor?
Gibson is a WR/KR/PR/RB do-it-all player. He worked out as a WR at the combine.
Rob4: You are right. Not realistic.
We need to fix our pass rush, don’t have a lot of cap space, next college season could be a year away…why not go all in and get Chase Young on a rookie deal. Trade our #1 this year, and our #1’s the following 2 years. Washington is looking to trade and our number ones don’t mean as much to the Hawks as other teams. Gamble on the here and now and get a young stud and still keep our 2 #2’s this year. Would Washington do that deal? Maybe yes. Would the Hawks do that deal given the steep price? Maybe yes. Thoughts?
Pick 2 = 2600 pts, pick 27 = 680.
Not even three 2020 first round picks in our range would equal pick 2 let alone discounted future picks.
So PC probably would consider it, WAS definitely not.
What is this!? šš I’ve been laughing over this for a good 5 minutes.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1252254908360863745
I know everyone is probably tired of looking at each others mocks, but the conversation above (that devolved) about taking a OT early got me thinking. How do you draft a LT if you’re picking at the end of the 1st every year? To that end, how do you get a top 5 pick without giving up a fortune in draft capital to move up?
You do what JS always does, and trade back. JAX has holes all over their roster and the worst odds to reach the SB from Vegas, sooooo…. I traded #27 & 144 to JAX for 2021 (R1), 73, 116 & 206.
Microscopic chance of this happening of course, but a bit of fun as we wait for Friday. I made one more trade down & ended up with
59 Julian Okwara EDGE
64 Brandon Aiyuk WR
73 DaVon Hamilton DT
101 Willie Gay Jr LB
116 Bryce Hall CB
141 Hunter Bryant TE
206 Jake Hanson C
214 John Reid Slot CB
227 Sewo Olonulia (RB – TCU)
R1a 2021 – Penei Sewell
Pretty good haul that gets us a potential top 5 pick next year.
Would love this draft, and I love the idea of trading down to pick up capital next year. I have always thought that is a good way of doing things, for instance, the dolphins should do that this year. Keep collecting future round 1s until you can finally attack.
Unfortunately, I don’t see jax as being in the position to do this. I don’t think they are n win now mode, hence why they are cutting and trading. They may want to see what they have in Minshew, and then if not good go after someone next year
Great pick in 2021. That dude is a beast. I just wonder if this is the wrong year. It should have been last year when they had 2 firsts maybe. I like the idea though. We haven’t done that since we got the Broncos pick in the Okung/Earl draft.
Hot players that are rising up the draft board.
Jalen Hurts: QB Oklahoma
Ezra Cleveland: OT Boise State
Ashtyn Davis: DB California
Jeremy Chinn: S. So Ilinois
Darrell Taylor: Pass Rush Tennessee
The Hawks now have 18 Offensive line men under contract. Does that mean they will be targeting other areas?
Maybe? Could be wrong, but I still think this is a PC draft. What does that mean? Defensive heavy, RB with one of their top 5 or 6 picks, a run blocking O-lineman, and a receiver that can dominate/win the ‘red line.’
Not necessarily. There was a very insightful comment a few days ago, āIf the Seahawks have 15 offensive linemen, that means they donāt have 5 they like.ā This is all about creating competition and adding a couple hungry young talented rookies to the mix would improve the competition.
My thoughts exactly. I bet we draft at least two, one fairly high.
Per Pauline:
Also says teams have Zuniga early R3, so maybe we would be able to get him with one of our late R2s.
Lastly, he also cites the Seahawks as one of the teams high on Utah CB Jaylon Johnson. Maybe Rob’s upcoming teleconference will shed some light on this.
https://www.profootballnetwork.com/2020-nfl-draft-news-rumors-tony-pauline/
“Lastly, he also cites the Seahawks as one of the teams high on Utah CB Jaylon Johnson. Maybe Robās upcoming teleconference will shed some light on this.’
Yes, yes!
DB is gonna be a higher pick than intially thought isn’t it?
I don’t think so. A slot guy from R3 is what I see.
I don’t mean 1st round or anything, but could 100% see the 3rd round. Or if a DB they’ve rated highly is still on the board in the late 2nd and the board has gone away from them with another position.
The comment on Jaylon Johnson is interesting, given his 31 3/8″ arms. Perhaps viewed as a good nickel prospect if he somehow lasts beyond the top 100?
Gronk is back going to Tampa – Trade —
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001110390/article/patriots-to-trade-rob-gronkowski-to-buccaneers
OJ Howard now officially available??? Haha
Here is my entry:
2.35 Brandon Aiyuk, WR Arizona State
2.35 Josh Uche, Edge Michigan
2.59 Raekwon Davis, DL Alabama
3.70 Lucas Niang, OT Texas Christian
3.99 Lynn Bowden Jr., WR Kentucky
3.99 Cam Akers, RB Florida State
3.101 Davon Hamilton, DL Ohio State
4.133 Jalen Hurts, QB Oklahoma
4.144 Zack Moss, RB Utah
5.153 Michael Ojemudia, CB Iowa
6.214 Benito Jones, DL Mississippi
7.255 Anfernee Jennings, Edge Alabama
Here’s my entry:
2.41 Julian Okwara DE Notre Dame
2.59 Raekwon Davis DT Alabama
2.64 Jabari Zuniga DE Florida
3.101 Willie Gay Jr. OLB Mississippi State
4.133 Robert Hunt OT Louisiana
4.137 Antonio Gibson RB/WR Memphis
4.141 Hakeem Adeniji OT/OG Kansas
4.144 Kindle Vildor CB Georgia Southern
6.187 Anfernee Jennings DE Alabama
6.192 Charlie Taumoepeau TE Portland State
6.214 Julian Blackmon CB Utah
7.244. Trey Adams OT Washington
But they’ll draft Jennings as a linebacker and Blackmon as a safety. Also Doug Farrar compared Willie Gay Jr. to Bobby Wagner in his top 50 article, so I’m going with ILB for him,
32 Julian Okwara
59 Willie Gay JR
64 Robert Hunt
97 Zack Moss
101 Bryce Hall
133 Leki Fotu
144 Cole McDonald
This is probably more what Iād do, than what the Hawks will do but Iād flip out about this draft for the Hawks personally. Love Duggar, and Trautman but the board didnāt fall to get Duggar, and signing Olsen made TE a lower priority which is a shame as I think both are going to be superstars in this league. I probably should have targeted a kick returner, but Homer will be alright back there.
Rob will be posting a specific link for the contest entries i believe
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Here is my entry:
#27 Jonathan Taylor
#42 Josh Uche
#59 Davon Hamilton
#64 Raekwon Davis
#73 Denzel Mims
#101 Damien Lewis
#150 Willie Gay Jr
#170 Jaylon Johnson
#209 Logan Wilson
#213 Anthony McFarland
#246 Jeremy China
#270 KJ Hill