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Nice.
Had no idea he had a Rocky montage style workout. He should have filmed himself chasing chickens around the yard.
You’re 6’4?
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Yep
Well… now I have a complete different image of you. Albeit more accurate.
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That was a pretty impressive interview from Quinn. Not just a power guy but clearly a real technician too & very bright.
Rob, do you plan to do a Senior Bowl recap type of piece? I had some comments and questions for you around some of the players, but the ‘offseason plan’ article didn’t seem like the place, particularly if you were going to address them in a write-up.
Looking forward to listening to the interview and appreciate the constant flow of great content.
I’m going to wait until the Senior Bowl publish full practise tape on YouTube.
He looks and sounds like he could hold down the fort somewhere in the interior of the line for 10 years. Yes please. Bonus points for fishing and his Rocky IV-in Russia-style workouts.
I continue to be amazed by the content Rob. I can barely keep up with the content you are churning out. Simply amazing.
Thank you
It really is like a second full-time job (albeit one that doesn’t make me any money). I pour hours into this daily. So feedback like this is so appreciated.
it really is super appreciated . . .there is no off-season around here!
Thank you
Please keep up the content. You do a great job articulating your thoughts and I enjoy the comments.
Sign me up as a fan of Meinerz. I would be thrilled with his selection in the upcoming draft.
Keep up the fantastic work, Rob!
Thank you
Ditto. Great stuff!
Wouldn’t it be nice for Meinerz to play with Lewis for 8-10 years? I’m so sick of the lack of continuity and always interchanging parts. Why not just get it done and do it. At least with two guys next to each other.
What a GREAT interview. #1 of the year so far for me. This young man is obviously mature and smart & sure has his head on straight, he’ll fit right in, especially at center, although the versatility to also play left guard enhances his value. I’m wondering if you asked him about the Seahawks & playing with RW’s hands under his butt? The 3-1/2+” less height than Britt – should help on ALL of the middle of the field passes. I sure hope PC/JS see this & are paying attention – – – – lets draft this guy at the earliest opportunity to help RW peak during his prime – please.
I mentioned that I would be very interested in the Seahawks drafting him off air… and he said he was very interested in playing for the Seahawks.
Passed over by bigger schools, chip on his shoulder, head screwed on very straight………….totally Seahawky if the new staff notice and he doesn’t go too soon. Good job Rob.
Great interview, Rob! Thanks so much for doing this. I hope we have a chance to draft this guy…looks like a Seahawk to me!
Thanks
Off topic but I wanted to pass comment on the Jamal Adams interview today, where he talked about his contract and how he sees himself.
This, to me, is why I think there’s a chance he will be dealt.
Because I don’t think the Seahawks are going to pay him $18-20m.
So he will have a choice to make. It’s Budda Baker money, or it’s off you go.
I actually avoided watching that. Is it worth watching? To me Jamal is kind of like Russ…it gets old really quick and says a whole lot of nothing.
Nah. There’s basically one interesting quote about his contract, implying he expects to be paid like a ‘complete defender’ (paraphrasing) as opposed to a safety and that negotiations will be ‘interesting’.
I interviewed Joe Vitt about a month before the Jamal Adams trade. Vitt coached with the Seahawks in the 1980s (stength/conditioning) and most recently finished coaching LBs with the Jets. Although nobody ever compared Jamal Adams to Kenny Easley, when I was talking about Easley for the upcoming book… Vitt told me Adams and all other great safeties he’s ever been around in almost 40 years in the NFL are nothing in comparison to Easley. Although Adams is good (somewhat great in the right scheme), he’s not an upper echelon guy like he thinks he is or other greats in NFL history. This is NOT a guy you give $18-20 million to.
Correct.
Nor was he a frickin’ guy you trade a 1, 3, and a 1 for.
Correct again
That’s what really chaps my hide. JS knows better than this (or so I thought) but they mortgaged the future on this yah-hoo. I still just don’t get it – he doesn’t even fit our scheme. I really have lost confidence in John’s ability to make a rational, logical decision. He lucks out (Carlos Dunlap this year, Clowney last year) but he does really head -scratching stuff as well ($60M down the toilet in offseason expenditures. I just shake my head and wonder where his head is at besides up his you-know-what.
I was thinking about this last night. What all-time safeties would people pony up 18-20m for if they played today? For my time, Lott and Easley were and still are the best. Since them, Reed, Kam and Polamalu have been darn good. Were any of them the absolute heart and soul and game wreckers of elite defenses required for that kind of commitment financially to a safety? Idk.
The rules have drastically changed since Kenny and Ronnie but you identified the top 3 safeties since their time. Kam was our heart and soul as was Reed and Troy for their teams. Ed Reed was probably in the same conversation as Kenny and Ronnie considering…Definitely though he was the better player than Ray Lewis but that’s just me.
I think Reed is overrated but that doesn’t mean I don’t think he’s not one of the greatest ever. I remember coaches “privately” annoyed by his freelancing ways (but he was so great he could get away with it) and I always thought Ray Lewis was the heart and should of that group.
I was actually on the phone with Ronnie Lott a number of months ago (he’s providing one of the quotes for the back cover of the book) and I kind of made fun of him for saying Reed was the best. I told him he was just being humble because it’s not really a comparison with he and Reed. Lott was a Pro Bowl CB. Reed was a safety (albeit a great FS). Lott was a masher. Although Reed was a good tackler, he was Cody Barton getting blocked by Aaron Rodgers compared to the type of masher Lott was at the position.
And, yes, Reed scored a bunch of TDs all kinds of ways (a punt return for a TD doesn’t make you a better FS) but if you compare a guy like Reed to a guy like Easley – both had about the same exact number of punt returns in their careers, but it was Reed who had a TD on one, even though Reed’s career 30 returns for a 6.8 average is nothing to Easley’s 26 returns and 11.6 average.
And in comparison to the guys above, Jamal Adams is a middle school b-squad back-up.
Good stuff, Bobby! Kenny and Ronnie are on a whole other level than the others. My point is that the rules were different in each of their generations and they played by those rules.
I think people forget about Sean Taylor because of his shortened career. RIP. That was a bad man and had a chance to be one of the greats. Masher and game-wrecker. Fun to watch.
Bob Sanders, Charles Woodson, Steve Atwater, John Lynch, Brain Dawkins, Rod Woodson, Eric Berry…
100%. And it’s clear the Adams negotiations and outcome are going to reveal the trajectory of the final years of the Carroll and Schneider era. If he gets that 18-20 million a year deal then the next 1-3 years are going to be a slow decline toward a less competitive team that ends with the inevitable departure of Carroll and Schneider.
The Adams situation will be, after drafting Russell Wilson, the most consequential cause and effect personnel decision of Schneider’s tenure. That’s what happens when you mortgage your future for a safety and one who doesn’t fit your system at that.
With this interview, I cannot imagine a franchise paying this guy.
If nobody wants to pay him, wyh should anybody trade for him?
We are basically looking at Clowney II. We will try to make a deal, he will hold out, if it doesn’t fit his agenda.
“I aint even stressing about it”
Easy to say right this second. Very easy.
He met with Seattle at the Senior Bowl?
He met with all 32 teams
Do we have a definitive list of teams “really” looking for centers or in need of a center?
Someone could be looking at him to play guard or to be a swing guy as well
Awesome!
Great interview. Such a bright, well-spoken man. 48″ box jump..wow! Love to pick him up in the 2nd
On Wisconsin (Whitewater)! Love the guy, just don’t value his position nearly as much as other needs…
Still steamed we could easily have ended up with both Williams and Meinerz, plus another player in the 3rd round had we not traded for an overrated strong safety. And still had our #1 pick next year, too. So. Darn. Dumb.
Stupid is as stupid does. And they keep doing it!
Great stuff Rob really enjoyed the interview and hope the Hawks give him a real good look, he seems like a great fit.
Thanks Trevor
I’ve been dumpster diving in the deep bushes for later round options in the event that they use their top couple of picks, hopefully on an OC/OG (Meinerz), RB (Williams) and/or slot receiver (Eskridge), all my personal favorites. Due to the lack of draft picks (currently), the day 3 selections & UDFA’s may be all that the draft has to offer for the Seahawks. Here are four players I’ve “found” so far on OFFENSE, all are likely early to late day 3 picks (possibly UDFA’s) and all should be at least considerations IMO.
——- RB—–, RB-Jah-Maine Martin, North Carolina A&T, (FCS), 5-11/215.
2019 STATS: 151/1246/**8.3-ypc**/20-TD’s rushing + 7 rec/38/5.4-ypc/0-TD. His 8.3-YPC was #1 in FCS and in 2019 had 10 runs of 55+ yards with high’s of 75 & 84 yards on the year. Was the HBCU player of the year 2019. A small school RB that has +/- Seahawk size AND – in the link below – is described as a “M. Lynch” comp – “without all the drama” ————> He MAY very well be a viable day-3 SLEEPER option at RB for the Seahawks in the coming draft. Much like Lynch, Martin has 1-5 yard gains and then boom, he busts a huge gain and that elevates his yards per rush average (to the best YPR in FCS). Level of competition holds him back, but he is a downhill runner with some power.
Please watch his tape and also SEE: https://www.nfldraftdiamonds.com/2020/05/jah-maine-martin/ Not great at catching passes or in pass protection, but rushing stats look pretty damn good and he seems to have sneaky ++ speed, above average burst, good balance on initial contact and seems to have very good vision. I can see the comparison to a slightly faster “M. Lynch” in his play style. Good NFL style coaching could elevate him into at least a competent RB #2/3 at a minimum IMO. His major negatives include a 2017 legal problem, with the charges subsequently dropped and his poor pass catching and pass blocking need to be coached up significantly, but as a pure runner he seems to have some pretty significant talent and potential ++ upside. Likely a late round pick or UDFA signing could get him unless a lot of the “analysts” discover him. Could maybe go as high as a Rd-4/5-ish pick IF he gets discovered by the experts late. I am anxious to hear what folks think of Martin as say a Rd-7 pick especially if Carson is gone elsewhere.
2019 Highlight tape: https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=jah-maine+martin&view=detail&mid=75A54A7219C2C5F242CD75A54A7219C2C5F242CD&FORM=VIRE
2019 Highlight tape: https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=RB-Jah-Maine+Martin&view=detail&mid=A985CADE2C0E4239A343A985CADE2C0E4239A343&FORM=VIRE&cc=US&setlang=en-US&cvid=797eadde2fd7469795621708fbc0ce51&qs=SW&nclid=268C0BD4BE71C4EB9027BB48451A1B10&ts=1612375416835
——–TE:—-, -TE-Zack Davidson, Central Missouri, 6-7/245, 2019 Stats: 13 games 40/894/*22.4-ypc*/15-TD’s & a long of 80-yds. Also a punter with 48 punts averaging 40.3-yds. including 19 downed inside the 20 & 9 for 50+ with a long of 67. 2018 STATS: 11 games, 11/239/*21.7-ypc*/3-TD’s. As a punter LED his league with a 42.8 yard average, 15 inside the 20, 9 punts at 50+ with a long of 64-yds. So, in addition to being a high ypc TE that catches LONG passes, could also be an emergency punter in the NFL. Maybe he drops a few pounds and converts to a 6′-7″ WR? Double value here as a TE/Punter? As a TE he just needs a good NFL training program and 10-15 lbs. of muscle added. He certainly has the size and length to scare teams. Developmental? Could be a nice Round 7-ish pick or possibly even an UDFA signing.
LINK: https://www.nfldraftdiamonds.com/2020/03/zach-davidson/
——-WR—-, -WR-Dareke Young, Lenoir-Rhyne, 6-3/220 (Note: SS-Kyle Dugger was a 37-th pick overall from same school.) Spring of 2020 Young had a 42″-vert, 130″-broad & was timed at 4.52 in the 40. STATS; 2019: 14-games, 25/515/**20.6-ypc**/8-TD’s receiving + 49/335/6.8-ypc/4-TD’s rushing. Played as a duel threat WR/RB, was supposed to be more of a WR in 2020, but the virus happened. Looks like a potential Gibson clone to me with ++ measurements, pretty high testing #’s and has some physicality to his play.
Highlight tape: https://www.youtube.com/embed/HTNMaqK4bp4?autoplay=1&FORM=VIRE1
——-WR (slot)—-, -WR-(slot)-Cade Johnson, South Dakota State, 5-10/175-180-ish. 2019 stats: 72/1222/*17.0-ypc*/ 8-TD’s. 2018 stats 67/1332/*19.9*-ypc/*17-TD’s* Could be a likely viable alternative to Eskridge in the event he is gone when the Seahawks pick? I believe he has one of the highest (or close to it) WR receiving yard totals over the last 2 years. Did pretty well at Senior Bowl and as a result could go as high as Rd-4/5-ish. Pro-day 40 speed will be something to monitor.
LINK: https://247sports.com/LongFormArticle/Senior-Bowl-2021-winners-NFL-Draft-stock-risers-Mac-Jones-Alabama-Michael-Carter-North-Carolina-160174778/#160174778_7
Thanks for the names; hope to look into them soon.
I did notice in several reps that Cade Johnson was double clutching. May not have the most natural hands. Just something to look out for.
Last year you identified and interviewed a guy who became a s Seahawks’ draft choice, played every game and likely will be on the all-rookie team and looks for all the world like he’ll be an anchor on the o-line for 10+ years. I’m hoping history repeats itself with this kid. You’ve identified and interviewed him Rob so the ball’s in your court Hawks.
Thanks for your work. Kid came across really well.
Rob (and all)
I’ve heard it parroted across the airwaves that this is a deep OL draft.
If so, are there three full rounds of OL available, that could start day #1 in the NFL?
Where is the projected drop off or plateaus for the C, OG and OT in the 2021 draft?
Are there any stone cold locks for a top 10 or 20 pick OL? I just want to cross some guys off the list, since Seattle has no shot at them currently. 🙂
Good stuff.
I’m beginning to think that certain Hawk pundits check in with your blog. Some of the local articles I read come right on the heels of topics you’ve written about.
Anyway…
Definitely a Seahawky kind of guy……..which means PCJS will pass on him. 🙁
Well the drafting of Lewis last year should at give you some hope………
What a find!
Loves ball, chip on his shoulder, great character- sounds like a Seahawk.
I really enjoyed this. Perhaps your best player interview. Correct me if I’m wrong, but Meinerz hasn’t played in a game in over a year, and he still went out and dominated at Senior Bowl. Against FBS level competition too.
I’m totally cool with him at 56 or whatever our first pick is. He fills a need, and his versatility is a plus. Gives them the option of moving on from Pocic if they can land a Scherff or similar FA OG.
FWIW I’m in agreement with your proposed off season plan. We all know the Seahawks won’t pay Adams what he wants (just like they didn’t pay Clark or Clowney or Sherm) so they might as well recoup some draft capital for him and tap into an amazing draft class for positions of key need, particularly on offense.
I also agree with moving on from Wagner’s crushing salary and seeing what they have in Brooks.
I am encouraged by the new coach hires. I don’t really know much about either Waldron or Dickerson, but I like the coaching trees they come from. And I don’t think either would come to Seattle if Carroll was going to hover over them. We’ll see how it works out, but for now I’m optimistic.
Thanks — and you’re right, he couldn’t play in 2020 but still performed superbly at the Senior Bowl.
Loved this guy. An athlete and technician who seems to love the game. Is there any chance we could land him in round 2 and be lucky enough to have Dickerson fall to us in the fourth round due to injury concerns? Does he project as a LG in the wide zone scheme? Did they put him at Center in the Senior Bowl because they project that to be his best position in NFL or just to determine his versatility?
Great interview Rob. I’m rooting for this kid to be a Seahawk now.
Seattle has typically avoided small school prospects but they favor guys who do well at the Senior Bowl so there is a chance…They need some interior line help and it looks a deep draft for those positions so whether it is Meinerz or someone else, I expect them to draft a G/C.
Thanks Steve
Loved this interview. Probably my favorite interview so far. Man do I hope the Seahawks are targeting this guy. Tenacious on the field, great guy off the field.
Thank you
Great work Rob. This becomes the standard way for me to start my comments 🙂
I really like his game. I would use #56 on him if we don’t get higher picks somehow and he’s still around.
Thanks
Great interview, Quinn Meinerz would be a great pick for the Seahawks.
I meant to put the following on a thread I read yesterday about Tony Pauline speculating that the NFL might reflect on putting on a Combine, but there are so many replies now I can’t find it, so on that basis here is what I wrote:
It’s certainly unfortunate the Combine isn’t going ahead. Pro days aren’t really a fair comparison with players testing under different conditions. Indoors, outdoors, synthetic track, grass, stop watches or electronic timing, so considering timings are important to 10ths of a second, I’m not really sure much can be read into the athletic comparisons on this basis.
Reflecting on the Senior Bowl, but also the season in general, I’d have thought with will from the NFL, an Indianapolis Combine could have taken place. Having the event spread over 10 or 11 days for example with different position groups coming in on separate days, constant testing, sanitising and no contact drills only, all could have been protocols ensuring a safe event?
The league didn’t have the courage that the Senior Bowl did and just decided to wash their hands and put the onus on schools to host pro days. Sad, really.
I was just going to post this from Garafolo on Pelissero’s article. I mean, if they are going to cancel the Combine, which easily could have been done like the Senior Bowl in one controlled environment, then they go and say teams can’t even get a look at the guys on their own either…? I hope something gives.
The NFL needs to sort itself out and host a managed, structured, socially distanced combine — and encourage those invited not to have a pro-day.
They could take 10.000 quick testing sets and just do it.
This is all about policy, not safety.
I believe it’s all about liability and lawyers.
liability is easy to get around.
Sign here on the line.
X_______________________
Nice one Rob. He’s a really good interview subject, but props to you for establishing such an easy and natural feeling rapport too. The inclusion of the clips was the coup de grace as well! 👍
Thanks
The biggest priority for off season acquisitions would be to find a way to slow down Aaron Donald. That is easier said than done. The best answer to address this is signing unrestricted free agent coming off of a recent franchise tag from NE, Joe Thuney. Here’s why: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QXtpZJ58WT8
It would cost a pretty penny (~$15mil/4yr) to bring him in, but the rewards could pay dividends. He’s played and started all of the games in his career, including playoffs. The biggest of those was against Donald in SB 53. Also, he’s just 28yrs old.
With that wide zone concept being featured in Waldron’s offensive scheme, this would be an ideal fit for him that just might sell him to move across country to the pacific northwest. That may be a opportunity to get his 3rd ring in 5yrs. The chance is far greater here than in NE, since they’re in the rebuilding mode in search of a QB to lead the way.
Let’s see, 15 per for a guy that fills a major area of need or 18 for a blitzing Safety that doesn’t fit the team’s scheme well? Hmmmmmm, gosh I wish I knew what the better expenditure would be.
These interviews are a big step up Rob, kudos for the hard work.
As well as correctly predicting a number of Seattle’s picks over the years you did interview Damien Lewis last draft and he is a Seahawk. The precedent has been set. You need to interview at least one Seattle pick from now on, let’s hope it’s this guy.
Great interview. He seems to have a lot of athleticism and a great attitude. The part on bowing his back and lifting up, not out is part of some new age O Line techniques so its nice he seems to be educating himself on his craft. I am always a little leery of these really small school guys. I live near a DIII school and in the late 90s /early 2000s they famously had a tackle go to the Packers. He was complete overwhelmed and the community wept. I know Marpet is the latest and greatest example for optimism but personally I still worry.
If it came down to it would you take Meinerz over Ben Cleveland, Aaron Banks or even Creed Humphrey at 56?
I would take all of them.
“I would take all of them.”
Best reply ever! Nice Rob!
Interesting. Zierlein has Sewell at 10 and Slater ahead of him. Elijah Moore all the way up at 19. Etienne ahead of Harris. Dickerson at 29:
https://www.nfl.com/news/lance-zierlein-2021-nfl-mock-draft-1-0-patriots-49ers-select-qbs-in-round-1
And has the Jets taking a RB with the pick we traded- salt
No doubt!
If the Bengals take a TE with their first pick instead of a franchise LT, I’ll be stunned.
Burrow got killed last year behind that abhorrent OL.
Also, Etienne is great, but Harris looks amazing. Can’t agree with either of these takes.
I can see the Bengals taking a WR at #5 if they plan on going OL in both the 2nd and 3rd rounds. I know that doesn’t leave much for defense this year, but if you’ve got a franchise QB coming off a major injury – you sure as heck better get him help. You’re not winning the Super Bowl next year anyways. Then stock up on defense in ’22.
These interviews are great Rob. This one especially you were able to talk to him about technique and the details of playing the position. He clearly enjoyed discussing it. That really provides some meaty details that fans of the draft rarely ever get. Well done.
Hopefully you can get some of the names you’ve snagged in the past. Zuerlein, Pauline, Baldy.
Thanks cha
Rob I absolutely loved this interview and especially going over tape with him can’t wait for the next interview, on a side note I actually check this site 15 times a day to see the comments and if there is new content, keep it coming
Thanks Dan
According to Over the Cap, the Seahawks are now $2m OVER the cap for 2021 in terms of effective cap space.
Must have finally updated the Michael Dickson incentive.
Probably another million coming from the DK Metcalf incentive.
Yes they have finally updazed Dickson cap hit to 3,4mil. But i never saw anywhere DK will add one more mill, where did you see that?
https://overthecap.com/the-potential-pay-raises-from-potential-2020-pro-bowl-honors/
Yes Cha, but its for his 4th year… DK 2021 is his 3rd year…
What we dont need to count right now, but after roster cuts we will must do, is 2-3mil for PS and 3-4mil for IR… So basicaly we are 10mil over the cap if SC stays at 176mil…There will be also draft class, but because we dont have 1st and 3rd it wont make much diference…
Oh you’re right. I missed that.
-$2m is effective cap space and already accounts for IR etc.
Rob you are awesome. Especially considering this is a labor of love for you. I get confused sometimes as to why what seems clear to fans can seem so unclear to PC / JS. I love them, they can sure be frustrating with their drafts sometimes though. I imagine that they have so much information available to them on players that it could possibly cloud their gut feelings? Not to diminish at all the many draft hits they have had, even recently, but Penny over Chubb…..really, how? I am hoping that what seems obvious to fans and sports media folks, that the Seahawks need to build in the trenches, comes to fruition. Until the draft let’s keep talking.
Here’s an interesting find from OverTheCap… Comp picks for 2021 & 2022:
SF: Robert Saleh & Martin Mayhew
LAR: Brad Holmes
BAL: David Culley
NO: Terry Fontenot
All 3rd rounders. This is the new rule re: minority hires for HC or GM. Do the teams get a 3rd round comp in two straight drafts? Does this mean the 9ers get two 3rd’s for each of the next two drafts?
https://overthecap.com/draft/
Comp picks on the right side…
Russ on with Cowherd in about one minute………..
Could be interesting — although Cowherd tends to simply praise Wilson on camera together (and then do RW’s bidding for him when he’s not there…)
Exactly what it was.
Paraphrasing here……..he did say that the offense got stale later in the season. Cowherd asked him if he had input in the new OC search and if there’d be a time where he’d go to the GM or HC and say something needs to change and Russ dodged that like he used to dodge guys on the read option.
lol great analogy
At this stage is his career I don’t get Russ dodging these types of questions. He is a nice guy and everyone knows it. People’s opinion of him is not going to change if he has an opinion. It’s the opposite actually as those who always thought he was fake continue to think so and those who like him tend to tune out his press conferences because there is nothing there. The most interesting thing he has ever done was expressing his desires on offense in the after season zoom call.
Russell has a public persona and a private persona.
But are they really that far off? Vanilla and Vanilla bean ice cream tastes the same.
I think they are somewhat far off.
Because I think everything he says in public is micromanaged to within an inch of its life.