College football week three notes

September 17th, 2016 | Written by Rob Staton

— Louisville absolutely destroyed Florida State 63-20 but at least DeMarcus Walker enhanced his stock (somehow). He was the only FSU defender who got close to Lamar Jackson. His patience at the LOS, hand use, explosive closing speed and combination of size/athleticism makes him a very attractive DE/DT hybrid. You want to see him play with a bit more snap-to-snap intensity (he’s a bit passive on snaps where he doesn’t have an impact) but there’s a lot of potential here.

— Yes, Lamar Jackson is fast becoming the biggest star in college football. He’s a bit one-paced as a thrower (100mph or nothing) and he still needs to work on his accuracy (his intercepted pass to the inside on a corner fade was a basic error) but as an athlete he’s clearly sensational. Even if the NFL eventually doesn’t see a future at QB — there’s a role for someone like this at the next level.

— Tim Williams is a stud. Against Ole Miss he ran outside of the tackle before instantly dipping to the inside drawing a hold. It was a brilliant play — setting up the OT before destroying him in one fluid motion. He hit the QB’s arm on a sack to force a pick-six for Jonathan Allen (a 75-yarder no less). The NFL loves players like Williams. He’s destined for a big time draft grade and could easily go top ten. Speed, hands, length.

— Marquis Haynes is fun to watch. He could be a Bruce Irvin type DE/LB. He’s a lighter player and won’t be a full time defensive end. There were a couple of times where he was easily blocked out of the play by the Alabama RT and Bo Scarborough coasted through a downfield block on Haynes at the second level to secure a first down (he really needed to do a better job disengaging). He did have one huge, crunching sack/fumble against Alabama that was recovered and returned for a touchdown. He drew a big holding call on O.J. Howard on a running play. Haynes has major production as a pass rusher in college and could be a sleeper in the middle rounds.

— Damore’ea Stringfellow was superb today. He’s a big bodied receiver who won a contested catch downfield vs Marlon Humphrey (who had water-tight coverage). It was ideal body control and positioning by Stringfellow. He made another key grab at the goal line vs Humphrey to set up a first and goal and scored a consolation red zone touchdown with three minutes to go.

— I maybe underestimated Eddie Jackson’s athletic potential. The Alabama safety had a long punt return for a touchdown. He ran away from a lot of people.

— It’s surprising to see continued talk about Chad Kelly in the first round. It’s a bit like the ‘Dalvin Cook is superior to Leonard Fournette’ stuff. And is there a team that has flattered to deceive more than Ole Miss over the last three seasons?

— Speaking of Fournette…

— Michigan’s Jabrill Peppers is a special talent. He’s a former big-time 5-star recruit who will play in the NFL in the en vogue LB/S hybrid position. He scored on a +50 yard punt return vs Colorado today.

— Oregon running back Royce Freeman was injured during a 35-32 loss to Oregon. It’s unclear what the issue is but his lower right leg was iced and heavily wrapped on the sidelines.

— Tennessee cornerback Cam Sutton will also miss several weeks with an ankle injury. It’s a real shame for Sutton. Hopefully he recovers well in advance of the combine — he’s a potential top-15 pick.

— Joe Mixon (RB, Oklahoma) has some severe character flags that need to be investigated thoroughly but he’s a 5-star recruit with major upside. He had a big kick return for a TD vs Ohio State. His ceiling is extremely high — but the flags are a real concern.

— Time for the DeShone Kizer #1 overall hot takes to settle down. Why did this ever become a thing?

93 Responses to “College football week three notes”

  1. Coleslaw says:

    Jabrill would be a damn good replacement for Bam Bam I’d say, and he could possibly be the hybrid we want, with McCray being the SS while Peppers is doing his thing. If we extend Michael Bennett then I don’t think we go DE (Although there are plenty of intriguing prospects)

    • Rob Staton says:

      Peppers could go top-10.

      • Volume12 says:

        Absolutely.

        Top 20 on athleticism alone.

      • Coleslaw says:

        Anyone could go top 10. You never know what’s going to happen. Why write it off in week 3? What is the fun in that? Jaylon Smith.

        • Volume12 says:

          No anyone can’t go top 10.

          Jaylon Smith had and still does have a career treating injury.

          Might take the fun out of it, but ya gotta think about the reality of it.

          • Coleslaw says:

            Lol the reality is that nobody here knows what is going to happen and to act like a Seahawks guru is ridiculous. You cannot read John Schneider’s mind, he could be plotting a trade already. This comments section has changed from a place for thought provoking discussions to a place where everyone just wants to be right. There’s no fun in it anymore, Later.

            • Rob Staton says:

              This simply is not true Coleslaw. The comments section continues to be a great place for people to discuss prospects.

              If you want to suggest Jabrill Peppers that’s fine — but it’s not really that much different than suggesting Leonard Fournette or Myles Garrett. Peppers is one of CFB’s elite with the athletic profile, production and star quality of a top ten pick. Jaylon Smith only lasted as long as he did due to a terrifying injury and none of us want that to happen to anyone else. There’s nothing wrong with a dose of realism as part of a wider debate and the Seahawks will either need to be pretty bad in 2016 or trade the house for a shot at Peppers.

            • Volume12 says:

              Who said I was trying to read his mind or am a guru? If I was a guru every guy I talked about would be picked by Seattle. That’s not the case.

              Sorry I offended ya. See ya later.

        • Kenny Sloth says:

          Kind of a cold name drop hahah

  2. Volume12 says:

    The only issue I have with Tim Williams. Does he have the hips to bend the edge against NFL OT’s?

  3. Volume12 says:

    Rob, speaking of RB Dalvin Cook. Does he look like he’s running tentatively? Like he’s trying to avoid another leg injury?

    Very hesitant this year. No explosion.

  4. Kenny Sloth says:

    Andrews was hung out to dry by Rudolph

  5. Volume12 says:

    Man, this Ohio St team just re-loads and re-loads.

    WR Noah Brown is intriguing.

    Rob, you like this Curtis Samuel cat?

    • Kenny Sloth says:

      I for one am certainly interested to see how he tests. Seems fluid and perhaps quicker than fast. Shifty for RAC

    • Rob Staton says:

      Bit mixed on Samuel. Flashes with speed but not sure he’s special. Need to see more. Wasn’t blown away in week one but I don’t have access to the Oklahoma game tonight.

  6. Kenny Sloth says:

    Speaking of QB’s I have liked JT Barrett since last year, but he’s play I g really in his head right now.

    I actually preferred Malik Zaire to Kizer at ND

    Still can’t get behind the Deshaun Watson train. Throws pretty inaccurately and I can’t really see him leading a franchise

    • Volume12 says:

      Zaire seems to be the better athlete.

      No.1 pick? Texas A&M’s Myles Garrett. He’s that good.

      Yeah, I remember that piece you wrote on QBs during the summer over at FGs. I beleive Barrett was in there right?

      He’d fit in Seattle IMO. He stands in there and plays PG. And we know about his mobility. Plays smart too.

      • Rob Staton says:

        IMO it’s a two way battle for #1 overall right now depending on QB needs.

        Myles Garrett vs Leonard Fournette.

        • Kenny Sloth says:

          I agree. Myles Garrett has amazing character. Was very competitive with Myles in college. They repeatedly went back and forth on whether he could beat the monster.

          I’m pretty sure Garrett jumped some crazy vertical number at TAMU pro day last year for the he’ll of it.

          Gotta love a player that goes above and beyond to sell himself to a team.

          Germain Ifedi attended one of those off-season draft bowls (Shrine game or North/South or something.) just to network with coaches and execs.

      • Kenny Sloth says:

        Yessir. I was hoping Max Browne would break out, but the lack of live reps is obviously to his detriment

  7. Volume12 says:

    Oh my gawd! Fournette bounced that dude’s skull off the turf.

    I can’t for the life of me figure out why people don’t think he’s the best back in CFB?

  8. TannerM says:

    Mixon will probably be too much of a headache, both off and on the field. The guy is lucky nobody caught him dropping the ball before he crossed the goalline.

    • Volume12 says:

      That’s for NFL teams to figure out.

      His eval will be one of the most interesting this year that’s for sure.

      Unfortunately, teams are full of guys like this. He got caught on tape. Makes ya wonder how many guys have done the same thing?

      This is a borderline 1st round talent too. I’m willing to bet someone will role the dice on him.

      • teejmo says:

        I hear you. I wouldn’t go near him with a forty-foot pole, but I’m not a GM (let alone employed), so my opinion doesn’t have any weight whatsoever. Too bad – I would love to be a GM.

  9. Kenny Sloth says:

    Barrett steps up to avoid pressure then scrambles to pick up a short first.

    Wish they would run him on draws less.

    I love his diagnoses he has great command for a young guy.

    As talented an arm as Cardale Jones had, Barrett is the better QB because of his head. Just struggles to get into a rhythm it seems to me.

    • Volume12 says:

      And Ohio St WR Noah Brown with TD #4 on a nice route in the end zone.

      Oklahoma doesn’t have one guy who can cover him.

      • dylanlep says:

        That catch he had before halftime was ridiculous Vol

        • Volume12 says:

          Your right. That catch was something else.

          He’s big time on the outside. Runs good routes, has shown he’s got a knack for winning those jump ball/contested catch situations, and full of upside.

      • Kenny Sloth says:

        I was just about to praise the OSU coaches for excellent gameplanning and playcalls.

        JT Barrett has also been surgical with his passing. Eating them alive. Really impressed me with the coverage diagnoses using motion to open it up.

        Had a really unfortunate overthrow bc he got excited he had cover 2 against a slot corner to Carter Samuel

        • Volume12 says:

          Yeah. And he missed his TE before the half who was wide open, but he hung in there and took a huge shot.

          Showed off his grit and toughness.

          He doesn’t have a huge or live arm, but like you said, it’s surgical like.

          • Kenny Sloth says:

            Surgical lite* haha

            I think he’s really just a backup in the NFL at this point, but a Byron Leftwich. Someone you can really win with in a pinch I think.

            In fact he would be a good fit for Pittsburgh~

    • Kenny Sloth says:

      Noah Brown Quadrupled his career receiving touchdowns tonight with four grabs from JT Barrett. Ties An Ohio State record for receiving touchdowns.

      He doesn’t want to be on the bench no more

  10. Volume12 says:

    Is Perine hurt? They’ve hardly used him.

    Why did Oklahoma go away from what’s worked?

    • Kenny Sloth says:

      He just had a good first down off tackle. Only 11 carries so far.

      Man if he doesn’t have the thickest ass in CFB..!!

      • East Side Stevie says:

        ha! I do like this Perine kid tho… Oklahoma has a eccentric backfield

        • Kenny Sloth says:

          Okorongwo (sp?) has shown a little tonight. Might have to look at him just to check

        • Volume12 says:

          Right? Nixon is this cocky, swagged out back from Oakland.

          Perine hates the media, kinda quiet, and is a country bumpkin.

          And yes his thighs and bubble are gigantic!

          • Kenny Sloth says:

            Mixon is sneaky fast.

            He’s also got a mean right hook I hear ?

            • Volume12 says:

              That would be a mean right beer mug I believe.

              Not defending him in any way whatsoever. I was a momma’s boy through and through, but I heard she kept calling him derogatory names, like N….. and actually attacked him.

              • Kenny Sloth says:

                I hear ya man, same. I get really rage-blind when I hear these stories, but hopefully he goes to a team that can help him grow as a person and get his psyche straight.

                Wish him the best.

                • Volume12 says:

                  You and me both.

                  Would it shock us if Seattle was one of the teams that interviewed him come combine team or brought him into the VMAC to vet him?

                  I’m not convinced a team would take a shot at him before late 3rd or so.

  11. East Side Stevie says:

    This geogia and missouri game has been exciting! I was hoping for an upset but georgia just took the lead again its on SEC network if anyone wants to watch the final few minutes. After this game I will probably go bac to the Oklahoma Ohio State game and finish out the night with Texas and Cal. I have been watching games non stop today just trying to digest as much players and teams as I can guys

    • Volume12 says:

      You sound like me. I’m flipping over to Cal vs Texas here too.

      Wish I had the SEC network. Damn. How did Mizzou DE Charles Harris look tonight? I heard he’s struggling because they have him 2 gapping as a strong side end.

  12. East Side Stevie says:

    I didnt even know who that was until I read your comment V12 so to be honest I dont know how he did wasnt paying any attention to him but Georgia’s Safety Quincy Mauger has 2 interceptions

    • Volume12 says:

      He’s a good one. Him and S Dominick Sanders. Georgia has some next level talent on that defense.

      Anyone other than Mauger catch your eye?

      • East Side Stevie says:

        Yeah I agree on Georgias defensive talent but they have close games all 3 games they have played this season so I expect their ranking to drop after almost losing to an unranked team but that just shows you how talented and competitive the SEC is. I thought both quarterbacks played well except for the interceptions but check this out

        Missouri WR J.Moore 8 rec 196 yds 2 TD’s

        Geogria WR I.McKenzie 10 rec 122 yds 2 TD’s

  13. Kenny Sloth says:

    Denzel Ward smacks the crap out of that poor guy Mark Andrews again.

    He didn’t hang on this time either.

    Baker Mayfield is gonna lose some friends at the next level if he’s gonna throw like that.

  14. East Side Stevie says:

    N. Chubb 19 carries 63 yds

  15. Kenny Sloth says:

    Rob, this is kind of off-topic, but have you heard of this kid for Borussia Dortmund, Christian Pulisic?

    He turns 18 only tomorrow and has recorded a goal and 3 assists in 2 starts for the first team this week.

    The opposition weren’t top class, and the team outscored opponents 12-0 but the quality of his play has been undeniable, including a nutmeg assist today.

    He’s already wearing the #10 Jersey for the usmnt.

    Seen him? Think the hype is overblown, maybe?

    He certainly is not Freddy Adu, a notable bust of a US star.
    I’m certainly hopeful

  16. nichansen01 says:

    How about Cal’s wide receiver Chad Hansen? Already 350 receiving yards and 3 tds on the season. 6-2. Haven’t seen him play.. Just impressed by his stats. Last season cal spread the ball around a lot… But Hansen seems to be the go to guy there right now.

  17. teejmo says:

    Jayon Brown, LB out of UCLA, is quite the player. He’s dominating BYU tonight. A little on the short side (six foot), so I’m not sure how good he’d be in the NFL, though.

    • Volume12 says:

      Does his size limit him or is it a hindrance?

      For instance, a team like Seattle won’t let size define a player.

      • teejmo says:

        Honestly, he’s reminded me a bit of Eric Striker-lite. A heck of college linebacker, but would that translate to the pros? Striker hasn’t.

        • Volume12 says:

          Probably not.

          A lot of it is scheme and fit too. Maybe if he, Brown, played MLB? Like a Chris Borland type?

          You are right though. 9 x’s outta 10, those kind of guys won’t translate.

  18. Volume12 says:

    After watching that Ohio St vs Oklahoma game, only one game for Oklahoma makes me sit up or tet excited when hevtouches the ball. RB Joe Nixon. Should be RB Samaje Perine too, but for whatever reason Oklahoma wants to be a passing team, but their QB is ‘turrible’ to quote Charles Barkley.

    However, Ohio St has dudes everywhere at every position! Again they’re full of NFL talent. And pro ready NFL talent. Smart, disciplined, and very well coached for it.

    Got a feeling, hunch, whatever ya want to call it that Seattle could be drafting another Buckeye.

  19. CharlieTheUnicorn says:

    Lamar Jackson = Calin Kaepernick 2.0

    The guy who shined was Christian McCaffery .. he balled out today. He was the Standford offense from his stat lines.

  20. CharlieTheUnicorn says:

    Michigan’s Jabrill Peppers

    This guy is very intriguing. I’m not entirely sure how he would fit into the Seahawks, but he would be worth the pick. He has played CB and now is playing safety. 6’1″ 208 lbs. Decent size. Maybe he could be gone prior to a late 1st round pick, but maybe not…. strange things have happened in the draft the last few years. This would go against everything the Seahawks normally do with CB or S…. they tend to wait to pick em.

  21. Cysco says:

    Man I hope the 49rs win a couple more games this year. I wake up in cold sweats thinking Fournette may get drafted by them. Imagine having to face Gurley and Fournette twice a year. yikes.

  22. East Side Stevie says:

    Hey vol 12 I saw jared stranger (@JaredStranger) tweet about that defensive end from Missouri you like, charles harris apparently he had 3 sacks against Georgia.

  23. Volume12 says:

    Rob, whenever you get around to it, I highly recommend checking out the Ohio St DBs. They’re as good as Udub’s and Florida’s IMO. At least right up there with them.

    S Malik Hooker- 6’2, 205
    CB Gareon Conley- 6’0-6’1, 195
    Marshon Lattimore 6’0, 190

    Lattimore jumped off the screen last night. He’s had a setback and battled injuries his whole career, but these guys all have great skill sets.

  24. Volume12 says:

    Is Rees Odhiambho starting today?

  25. Volume12 says:

    NE QB has put more points on Miami in 16 pass art then we did all game?

    Miami’s D still great guys?

    NE is the best team in the league at devising game plans. Pains me to say it and that Bill Bellichik is the best HC over the last 16 years. Truly one of ther greats. Thanks Parcels. ?