Curtis Allen’s week eighteen watchpoints (vs Rams)

January 7th, 2023 | Written by Rob Staton

This is a guest article by Curtis Allen. After the game tune into the instant reaction live stream which will be available on here and on our YouTube channel.

The NFL marathon of the regular season is nearly over.  There is just one more game on the docket and it is against a hated division foe, at home in Seattle with their playoff lives on the line, no less.

The Seahawks have an annoying trend going.  Finishing the year on an up-note and winning the last couple games of the season long after any hopes of a really good playoff seeding have been extinguished.  They are like that golfer who starts out well, blows up on a couple holes on the back nine but ends the round with a nice drive or a clutch putt on the 18th hole.  That is what keeps you coming back.

Can they end the season in that typical fashion?  We will see.  The Rams are a wounded animal.

Not many Super Bowl champions can claim to have as horrible a following season as the 2022 Rams.  They are more than ready to finish out a nightmare of a season.  Last week, they faced an amped up Chargers team in the thick of the playoff race and they could not muster any energy to meet the moment.  They looked like they were sleepwalking through the game.  The Chargers mopped the field with them and did whatever they wanted to.

Will the Rams be more up for this game?  No doubt they will be.  It is a division game and at this point all the Rams have to motivate them is ‘at least we spoiled a division opponent who was trying to backdoor their way into the playoffs.’  

It might be enough if the Seahawks are not careful.

How can the Seahawks win this game?

Running the ball and stopping the run.  If you are tired of hearing me say that, please know that I am tired of saying it.  Watching this run defense and hoping that the running game can support Geno Smith has been a dreadful experience at times this year.

The Seahawks have one more shot to deliver on their formula.

When the Rams have the Ball

Mission #1 is to stop Cam Akers.  He has been extremely effective running the ball in his last two games, turning 42 carries into 241 yards and 3 touchdowns.  That is 5.73 yards per carry.

You should know those fabulous numbers are not being propped up by a couple fantastic runs followed by a bunch of duds.  Of those 42 carries, Akers gained 5 yards or more on 19 of them – nearly half the time.  He has been consistently good and that spells trouble for the Seahawks defense.

Last week the Jets only gained 75 yards on the ground against the Seahawks, their second-best performance on run defense this season.  Unfortunately it is not much to be proud of.  As I said in last week’s preview, the Jets might be the worst run offense in the NFL at the moment and they still managed to average 4.41 yards per carry against the Seahawks.  The only reason they did not get more yards is because the coaching staff inexplicably ran the ball only seventeen times in the game.  They asked Mike White – Mike White! – to carry the offense by throwing 46 times in the game, while the running backs were effectively moving on one of the worst run defenses in the NFL.  White did not reward their trust and the game was comfortably in hand for the Seahawks.

Do you think Sean McVay will make the same mistake?  Me neither.

He will find ways to keep Akers hot.  Might as well leave it all out on the field, right?

If Akers is contained, that puts a lot of pressure on Baker Mayfield to carry the offense — who at this point in time he is not much better than Mike White.  

He had a memorable win in his first game with the Rams days after being picked up, then beat the Broncos.  He quickly came back down to earth the following week against the Chargers.  Why?

The Chargers defense came to play, whereas the broken and demoralized Broncos defense did not.

McVay designed several simple plays for Mayfield, completely understandable as he had to suit up before even shaking hands with most of his teammates.  When Mayfield is called to play simply and there is not a pass rush in his face, he is fine.  Screens, dumpoffs to Akers in the flat and simple slant throws are relatively easy to make when the defense is not pressuring you.

He also has been very effective on designed rollouts, plays where the offense is lined up on a hash mark that call for him to roll out to the other side of the field and have a couple targets to choose from, a near target for 4-6 yards and a deeper target for 10-15.

They work well when he has Akers on his game to play-action to in order to draw the defense away from him and has a wide swath of field and time to make decisions.

When he has rushers in his face pressuring him to scramble, he turns back into the Baker Mayfield that got unceremoniously dumped by two different organizations this year.

Edge players like Uchenna Nwosu, Darrell Taylor and Boye Mafe will need to be smart and disruptive.  If they can create pressure in standard packages, that will cause all kinds of trouble for Mayfield.  It would be an added bonus if they could smartly handle those designed roll outs by either covering their assigned man or quickly getting upfield and into the quarterback’s face and taking away those easy choice throws.

It would be a huge bonus if they could get some inside pressure as well.  Mayfield is not the quickest at backpedaling and processing the play.  If he has direct pressure coming from the middle that narrows the gap, he will struggle to make plays.  If he has time, like any quarterback worth his salt, he is effective.

Evidence:  In the Broncos game, Mayfield was not sacked and the offense converted 6 of 10 third downs on their way to a 51-point day.  

The Chargers game?  He was sacked three times.  All three were on third down and killed the drive and on one of them he was stripped and the Chargers recovered the ball.

Blitz if you have to, Seahawks.  Get in Mayfield’s face and good things will happen.

In the last three games, the Seahawks defense is 10th in the NFL in third down percentage, a vast improvement over their 28th overall for the season.  The difference between a feel-good win and an absolutely frustrating loss to end the season will likely come down to how the defense performs on third down.

When the Seahawks Have the Ball

Run the ball.  Run the ball some more.  And then run the ball again.

The Rams have given up 100 yards rushing in five of their last six games (ironically the sixth is when Seattle only managed 90 yards rushing due to Ken Walker leaving the game early – and he had 36 yards in only three rushes).

The Rams have lost four of those six games.  One of those wins featured the Broncos turning the ball over four times.  The other?  A win against the Raiders in a performance by Derek Carr that started all the drama about him being benched and his future in Las Vegas questioned.

The Rams run defense has regressed badly.  How badly?  In Week Thirteen, when the Seahawks went to LA for their first matchup, the Rams entered that game standing at 5th in the NFL in rushing defense.  Only four games later they are now 10th.  They dropped five whole positions very late in the season.

Teams are running right up the gut on the Rams at will and they are playing like they are broken and just playing the string out.

As Tom Waits sang, “The ship is sinking, the ship is sinking.  There’s a leak, there’s a leak in the boiler room.”

Give Ken Walker all the carries he can handle.  Let him move demoralize this defense.  Make Geno Smith’s day an easy one and we can all end the season with a nice win.

If the Seahawks can run the ball well, not only will it make Smith’s day easier, it will open up opportunities for D.K. Metcalf to turn in a repeat performance against Jalen Ramsey.  Metcalf may not be having the season we all expected of him but there is no doubt he is a highly competitive gamer.  Torching Ramsey again would nicely cap the season for him.

In Week Thirteen Geno Smith led a game-winning drive against the Rams that was a wonderful answer to the ‘yeah but’ crowd when discussing how good he has been this year.  He capped it with a brilliant pass to D.K. Metcalf after drifting in the pocket to avoid pressure and buy some time.

Yeah but he had two turnovers that made the game much harder than it should have been (see what I did there?).  He had a fumble near the Red Zone after not protecting the ball on a great scramble.  He also was intercepted just outside the Red Zone by Bobby Wagner (albeit on a controversial call that should have gone the Seahawks’ way).  

A clean day on the turnover sheet and an effective ground game will produce a low-stress day for the Seahawks.

The Chargers last week did not have any turnovers and pounded the ball on the ground to make for an easy win.  Justin Herbert was perfectly fine, going 24-31 for 239 yards and two touchdown passes.  A game like that is well within Geno’s grasp.

An efficient and effective game would cap his fantastic and improbable regular season in a fine way and be a great selling point to any potential suitors in the free agent market, including his own Seattle Seahawks.  It may seem symbolic but there will be tremendous incentive to end the season on a high note.

Final Thoughts

As we come to the last game of the season, I feel forced to reflect on the utterly high level of unpredictable strangeness we have all witnessed this year in the sphere around this team.

Beating Russell Wilson in Week One.

Geno Smith shocking the world and playing highly competent football.

A four-game winning streak where they looked unbeatable.  Losing five out of six and looking very, very beatable.

Rashaad Penny struggling to get in gear, then getting in gear and absolutely exploding through defenses.  Then just as quickly disappearing from the team with another injury.

A rookie class that actually delivered better results than we thought they would when we were popping champagne corks in April.

Missed tackle after missed tackle on defense.  Players not even lined up right.  Not even knowing what their assignments were.  Bad teams running the ball at will.

Russell Wilson being utterly incapable of stopping the train from going off the tracks in Denver and delivering the Seahawks a top-5 draft pick.

Tyler Lockett being Tyler Lockett.

What a strange, wonderful, frustrating, unexpected and perplexing year it was.

It was my pleasure to share it with all of you.  To enjoy the triumphs and shake our collective heads together at the sorrows and resolutely work our way through the week to the next contest.

Thank you, Rob, for the opportunity once again to post here.

Thank you to the community for the support.  

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447 Responses to “Curtis Allen’s week eighteen watchpoints (vs Rams)”

  1. Rob Staton says:

    I would also like to thank Curtis for his incredible work this year. His articles are brilliantly written, so insightful and the perfect preparation before every game. I learn something every time. Coupled with his review pieces and knowledge of the cap, his writing has added so much to the blog.

    A massive part of the community, a superb guest contributor and I can’t thank you enough Cha for everything you do.

  2. Trevor says:


    Thanks Curtis for all you do!

  3. KennyBadger says:

    Best Seahawks AND draft site out there fellas. Thanks for all you do – I hope people consider contributing what they can on Patreon.

    I don’t think you can overstate the importance of this coming draft. There is potential for renewal here and I’ll be as nervous during the draft as I am for playoff games. Looking forward to tomorrow and the next few months.

  4. Big Mike says:

    Thank you so much for all you do here Curtis. As usual, this week’s preview was top notch. And you’re right about this place being the place to be this coming offseason (and beyond).

  5. Romeo A57 says:

    Thanks Curtis for doing these all season.

    The mention about DK maybe not having as great of a season as was anticipated caught my attention. He has been a good player again this season who seems to drop too many passes that should probably be caught. He is a freaky athlete and his speed is absolutely needed in this receiver group. He will never be an elite receiver and probably never live up to the massive contract he just signed.

    Metcalf seems to me to be the same player that he has always been with Smith or Wilson at QB. I am curious if others have a different opinion of DK?

  6. Stuart says:

    Thank you doing these every week Curtis.

    I read somewhere that if we lose tomorrow, there is a chance to get the 10th pick but there are like 6 teams that need to lose.

    Tomorrow night at this time we should know out draft positions.

  7. Olyhawksfan says:

    Really cool that you dedicate your time to this Rob and Cha.

    “Running the ball and stopping the run. If you are tired of hearing me say that, please know that I am tired of saying it.”

    Amen brother.

  8. Jabroni-DC says:

    Thank you Cha!


  9. Mick says:

    This has been a nicer season than I expected. Not quite happy with it though, we need to do better, but not the end of the world without Wilson. These articles have been a highlight for me, so well prepared and written. I want to say thank you, cha.

  10. Gomhawk says:

    You encapsulated the season very nicely there.

  11. DriveByPoster says:

    Thanks to Rob & Curtis for another great season of Seahawks coverage. It’s been & bit up & down on the field of play but you have both kept it entertaining & interesting. Good work gentlemen!

  12. bv eburg says:

    Thank you Curtis. Both your comments and articles are well thought out and articulated. Look forward to tomorrows recap as well as the offseason draft prep.

  13. Ukhawk says:

    Kinda wish all teams kicked off the last game at the same time

    They do this in the Premiership and it make for an exciting final day in terms of teams qualifying for European cups and getting demoted.

  14. TomLPDX says:

    Curtis, Thank you for your outstanding contributions this year and throughout the years! The content is amazing and very much appreciated. You and Rob have taught us a great deal about football.

    Rob, again, thank you for ALL you do for us suffering Seahawks fan!

  15. Peter says:

    Curtis great stuff as usual. Consistently astute observations week to week.

    Always great to see your contract and cap notes.

    Thank you for doing these every week.

  16. AlaskaHawk says:

    Thanks Curtis, you’ve done a lot of research for these articles.

    Going into this game you have to wonder about the psychological state of the Seahawks. Are they drifting toward finishing the season like the Raiders yesterday? Or are they fighting to the death to win another game and make the playoffs? Like the Titans and Jaguars were fighting yesterday. Should be interesting.

  17. Roy Batty says:

    Keep a man on Bobby.

    That’s my only advice. He’s playing with his hair on fire against the Hawks. Make sure someone is obstructing his path, at all times, and run it right behind that obstructionist. Once Bobby is out of the play, Walker should be able to make big gains.

  18. Joe says:

    I see a lot of media chatter about this being McVay’s last game for a while. I think we ought to be prepared for it to be Pete’s last forever.

    • Rob Staton says:

      Well I have to say I hope so

      Ready for a new era

    • Simo says:

      I would be pleased if Pete is actually considering walking away, but I’m certainly not convinced he is leaning that direction. It seems he is equally likely to stay on, finish his contract, and keep trying to reach the promised land one more time.

      So, would he be more likely to step down after a win or a loss today? Let’s assume the Packers win tonight and he doesn’t make the playoffs.

      • Jabroni-DC says:

        Should we start the McVay to Seattle rumor?

        • Geoff u says:

          Good lord, I would love that. But highly unlikely. I guess it depends if he wants to take a break from coaching, or just coaching the rams due to organizational differences with the higher ups. And of course, if Pete actually retires.

  19. Palatypus says:

    Cha said, ” They are like that golfer who starts out well, blows up on a couple holes on the back nine but ends the round with a nice drive or a clutch putt on the 18th hole. That is what keeps you coming back.”

    It confounds me how well they do with the loop-dee-loop and the vortex, but that damn windmill and the freaking dinosaur just vexes them.

  20. Ashish says:

    Thank you Cha for excellent articles plus the press conference coverage. I still can’t figure out how you can hear the questions.

  21. ShowMeYourHawk says:

    Anyone hearing any whispers about Pete’s future? Given the unlikely state of events needed to happen to prolong the season, the silence has been deafening. Obviously, a win at home, not yet knowing if the team’s offseason has already begun, is less likely to clear the picture. However, Pete’s been an institution for a decade+, so if he simply walked away after a win but no playoffs, it’d be fairly anticlimactic.

    Would a post-loss announcement today be the likeliest scenario? I suppose if we win and the Packers still make the playoffs, an announcement could come as soon as tomorrow’s media day. Even though I’d like the team to move forward with new HC leadership, Pete certainly deserves a standing ovation at the end of today’s home game.

    • Palatypus says:

      Well, you would need a plan for the Senior Bowl. That’s in about three weeks.

    • Rob Staton says:

      There hasn’t been anything

      Although with the playoffs still possible I wouldn’t expect Pete to announce anything until the season is concluded

    • Peter says:

      Why would Pete getting a standing ovation today?

      He’s under contract and has maybe the best roster he’s assembled in a decade with a ton of picks and great young players.

      I’m personally over the Pete show but I’m not seeing why he would be motivated to retire. This was not a rebuild, according to him, and frankly has gone way better then many here, pundits, and vegas thought.

      • ShowMeYourHawk says:

        Best roster? Really? I won’t argue that the future is brighter than it was even two years ago but this current roster is comprised of aging journeymen, broken vets, rookies with potential and our two valuable WR that may not be on the squad by the time we’re ready to compete for a SB again.

        We’re not the complete disaster that was anticipated but not in a position to get excited about much either. We’re exactly where teams like the Dolphins had been for about a decade. Perhaps good enough to make a WC but otherwise mediocre.

        I’m not suggesting he will (or even needs to) retire. Rob had posited that due to the whispers/tweets that had surfaced not too long ago, as well as the Glazer report a few years back, that Pete may be keeping an eye on the exit. Not out of the realm of possibility that he’ll come up short of the playoffs and decide that this season is one to be proud of, given previous expectations. It’s not going out on top but it’s not mired in the 3 win season many of us anticipated. It could be as close to walking away feeling good that he gets anytime soon.

        However, as Jody’s public ownership profile is one of “cheerleader in chief,” who the hell knows what to expect?

        • Peter says:

          Best roster as in awesome corner, two starting tackles, a good runningback.

          I’m actually pretty down on the roster.

          And hot the Irvin style journeymen.

          I’m just stating that if I were positive Pete instead of pragmatic Peter I’d be looking at things like they were bright.

  22. Romeo A57 says:

    Incredible start to the NE at Buffalo game, beautiful!

  23. Big Mike says:

    Like a number of you, I want a change at HC. However, I’d be awfully surprised if Carroll retired. I just don’t see it in his makeup. In fact, I could see him trying to get another (likely shorter) contract if she hasn’t sold by the time his current deal is done.

    • Peter says:


      Stated above but this season for him is a resounding success. Not for me but generally where many thought it would be.

      • Hebegbs says:

        I thought it would be quite a bit worse in the W column. 4-5 W’s is what I said. With that, the same issues reared their ugly head. The O-line seems to be taking a turn for the positive as both R tackles exceeded my expectations.

        The D line especially is still what we thought they’d be. Especially in containing the run.

        I have to think with the draft stock they have and the hits in 2022, that is it more likely that optimistic Pete sees a path (in his mind) to a deep playoff run in 2-3 years. Probably 2. I don’t see him retiring after year end here.

    • ShowMeYourHawk says:

      Perhaps if the league proposed sanctions against the Seahawks? It seemed to expedite his departure from USC…..

      All kidding aside, I know that Pete’s stepping away from the SEA HC duties are unlikely but it has to happen at some point. Unless he unexpectedly gets the team back into annual championship contention, I doubt a new buyer would want Pete along for the ride. I suppose Jody retaining him until the team changes hands is the likeliest option. A new owner will likely want to clear house, before long.

  24. cha says:

    Thank you very much for the positive feedback everyone.

    It is both gratifying and humbling.

  25. Sten says:

    To your point about the end of season trends, I’m frustrated less by the team doing better towards the end of the season (makes it more fun) and more frustrated by certain players doing better, like Dunlap last year. You never know whether it was just a flash in the pan or whether they’re actually getting better. Barton last week was this kind of player, he and the defense somehow looked pretty good without Brooks and with him at middle linebacker.

  26. Scot04 says:

    I’m a little late to the party, but thanks again for all you add Cha.
    Great write up for today by the way.

  27. Forrest says:

    Dear Jody Allen,

    If you’re planning to switch out Pete this offseason, please do so quickly once the season is decided and before all the big names are off the board.

    Sean Payton

    Jim Harbaugh

    Jim Caldwell/Frank Reich


    If we want Jonathan Gannon, fine. But, don’t be indecisive and miss out, if we want one of the above names.

  28. Bobby54 says:

    Jesus Christ. Texans vs. Colts reminds me of that southpark baseball episode. 5D tank chess

  29. Scot04 says:

    Staley pretty much confirming they will sit all their important players the majority of the game if Cincinnati wins. Wilson should be happy, sounds like he won’t be seeing alot of Mack & Bosa crushing the pocket.
    So here’s hoping the backups come up big.

  30. Elmer says:

    Best wishes for 2023 to everyone in the SDB community.

    It has been a pleasure and a privilege to share the exceptional SDB content for the 2022 season. Onward to the 2023 draft!

  31. Big Boi says:

    Colts losing, Bears losing, Ravens losing. Rams playing their last game for their beloved head coach and Bobby Wagner making his return to Seattle. All adds up to picks #5 and 12 or 13. Honestly, that’s possibly a best case scenario. Was it a fun season, sure, but now we have a tremendous dilemma with Geno and having two top 5 picks woulda been kinda awesome as we could have absolutely run the draft. I’m just glad we can now stop cheering for our NFC West rivals whenever they played Denver- that felt awful dirty to me- and we can now hope for the best for Russ and shake off that weird mojo.

  32. Blitzy the Clown says:

    Congratulations and thank you cha for a fantastic season of pre-game watchpoints, post-game PFF grades and salary cap management information!

    I’m extremely grateful to Rob and everyone who contributes to making this community what it is to me.

  33. Scot04 says:

    Lol. Houston gifting Bears the #1 pick.

    • ShowMeYourHawk says:

      Lovie thinks he has a chance to retain his job and the team’s draft spot is going to suffer for it.

  34. Bobby54 says:

    It should be illegal what the Colts are doing. I mean can they make it any more obvious? But what can you expect from a team that appointed Jeff Saturday as the new headcoach.

  35. Blitzy the Clown says:

    A little off topic, but I’d LOVE to pair 6-7 260lb Colby Parkinson with 6-6 270lb Darnell Washington. T

    I’d also trade Fant before the draft.

    And I think I’d jettison Dissly and his $9m 2023 salary. Looks like his dead cap is $6m so cutting him should save about $3m.

  36. JimQ says:

    RE: DT-Mazi Smith. (A guy I hope will be available with their native 1-st round pick.)

    Apparently, his gun charges were reduced to a misdemeanor, and he pled guilty to his possession charges.
    Has he fallen in rankings as a result of these charges???? I believe Rob has said he is a 1-st round talent.
    After watching tape, this dude is beastly & quick + below is a refresher of his #1 on Feldman’s freak list. Also note: CB- DJ Turner testing #’s he has put up = Fantastic. I would hope the Seahawks have BOTH of these Michigan players on their short list. Also, Smith may likely be the strongest player to enter the NFL in many years. Looks to me like he’ll probably draw many double teams, many of which he’ll defeat, and he will clog up the middle – a lot. I believe he may be the “impact player” that is badly needed on the DL.


    • Matt says:

      Smith had a pending permit. I personally view this as a non-issue. Apparently he was totally compliant during the whole process.

      *Not celebrating this – but this doesn’t sound like a gang banger situation.

  37. ShowMeYourHawk says:

    Given the current state of scores, I’m resigning myself to the fact that we’re picking #5. Which, while disappointed we’re likely going to miss out on our choice of the few consensus options, it greatly enhances the probability that we’ll trade out to a team desperate to land the third/fourth QB or whomever of Carter/Anderson has yet to have their name called. With Chicago likely owning the #1 overall spot by end of day, you’ve got to think that that pick will be a QB, selected by a different squad.

    If Levis, Stroud or Richardson are all gone before #5, I think you sell the pick to the highest bidder for future considerations. Young, Carter and Anderson aren’t going to push this squad to the next level.

    • Bobby54 says:

      I would be mad as hell if we pick at 5 and we miss out on the QBs. At least the texans starting to do stupid penalties. But im sure tank commander finds a way to counter that. They probably just run into their own end zone for a safety now

      • Blitzy the Clown says:

        For me, missing out on the QBs means none of Stroud, Levis or Richardson.

        Ironically, Bryce Young is the most pro-ready QB in the draft. Maybe in the last few drafts. He is virtually unflappable.

        But how many hits can he take in a game, let alone in a season?

        Maybe, maybe if Seattle also drafted a top C like Van Pran and added another top OL like Dawand Jones or Darnell Wright, maybe then.

        Even still, I just don’t know

        • Bobby54 says:

          I like Young but his body is a concern. And i have a feeling that at 5 Stroud, Levis and Richardson are all gone. Texans and colts will pick a QB. Bears and Cards are both prime targets for a trade up. At 3 we would have it in our own hands. Well as long as russ is playing today there is still hope

          • Blitzy the Clown says:

            Agreed. Three QBs go in the top 4. Maybe even the top 3. Stroud/Levis and Richardson (in that order)

            Not sure where Young goes, but I expect it’ll be top 10.

    • Julian L says:

      Herbert went at #6, Allen at #7, Mahomes at #10, I think Richardson will be there at #5, though I wouldn’t suggest the Seahawks can trade down from there and still hope to draft him.

  38. Blitzy the Clown says:

    Why sign a guy off the PS in the last week of the season only to make him inactive for the final game?

    What’s the bloody point?

    • ShowMeYourHawk says:

      5D Chess. Always keep them guessing….

    • cha says:

      Good guy show of faith for being on the PS all year, maybe a cherry to let Onujiogu know the like him. Brooks hurt, Barton a free agent….Josh can do the 2023 math.

      PS salary: $11,500 for the week

      Active Roster Salary: Something like $45-50,000 for the week

      • Blitzy the Clown says:

        Good points I hadn’t considered.

        Even still, it’s not like we’re deep at LB. Seems like they coulda gone the whole way and activated him.

  39. Romeo A57 says:

    The Patriots should probably just kick the ball out of bounds for the rest of the game. Has anyone ever had 3 kickoff returns for a TD?

    • Romeo A57 says:

      The Patriots did just give them the ball at the 40 instead of risking another KO Return 😀

  40. Blitzy the Clown says:

    Indy just scored another 2nd half TD and are now within a FG of the Texans

    4th quarter about to start

    • Blitzy the Clown says:

      Aaaaaand the Colts have another INT!

      • Rushless pass says:

        Indy is trying really hard to lose this game!

      • Bobby54 says:

        I have seen a lot of tank jobs. But this game is just next level. NFL should really discuss a lottery after that game. This is ridiculous

        • Rushless pass says:

          If the colts lose we’re guaranteed 4th at highest right?

          • Blitzy the Clown says:

            No I think 5th.

            But if they win, we’re guaranteed no lower than 4th

            • All I see is 12s says:

              I’m sure it’s been explained on here before, but how does that lock us in for the fourth? I’m looking at tank-athon and Arizona is already drafting ahead of them. So Houston Losing locks the one pick and the Colts pick moves down but how does that keep Arizona from passing us if Denver loses?

            • Bobby54 says:

              Yes, Colts win and we pick at least at #4. Could still mean no stroud, Levis or Richardson. But that would require 2 trade ups instead of 1

  41. Julian L says:

    I’ve said it before (last season), but wouldn’t it just make more sense to set the draft order for the top 18 picks after week 15? It wouldn’t stop the lower ranked teams putting in backups to try and throw game fifthteen, but potential playoff teams (and there’d be plenty of them in game 15) wouldn’t be putting out weakened sides, creating unnatural match ups.

    Teams moving out of the Top 18 picks into the playoffs at the end of the season, would see teams they pass, move up a place in the draft order.

  42. Blitzy the Clown says:

    The Colts take the lead!

    • Peter says:

      As a born and raised Seattle native this is the most discouraging thing about Seattle sports fandom.

      Bobby is a legend.

      Let’s just put it to bed. His career here was over.

  43. Feindt says:

    McDaniel 0/5 in challenges this season prior to the successful one today. Something we know and probably a good Omen for Pete today 😀

  44. Blitzy the Clown says:

    Colts add a 54-yard FG to take a 31-28 lead with about 3 minutes left

  45. Big Boi says:

    OMG what if the Colts and Texans tie? Texans keep #1 pick and Colts move up to #4 if the Broncos win.

  46. UkAlex6674 says:

    Thanks Cha for all your work. It really is superb.

    Looking ahead, I think we beat the Rams (will be close though).

    I also think the Lions can get the W in Green Bay.

  47. Troy says:

    Colts better pull this shit out, locking in at worst the #4 pick would be huge

  48. Blitzy the Clown says:

    YES! Colts sack Mills.

    4th and long for Houston with 58 seconds left

  49. Blitzy the Clown says:


  50. Blitzy the Clown says:

    31-30 Colts

    Texans going for 2 and the win

  51. Rushless pass says:


  52. Blitzy the Clown says:

    I’m officially disgusted

  53. Mick says:

    Haha they missed it. What are the Colts gonna do now, give them the ball or score a safety themselves to make sure?

  54. Troy says:

    Ok we all need to cheer very hard for the broncos to lose the game

  55. Romeo A57 says:

    Disappointed in the Colts for this choke job.

  56. Mick says:

    Either way, this is obvious, against the spirit of the game and should not be encouraged.

    • Bobby54 says:

      5 blue shirts around 1 white on that last play. And on the 2 point conversion #44 makes sure he doesnt deflect the Ball.

  57. Blitzy the Clown says:

    I like Jelani Woods

  58. jdruaint says:

    Every team we wanted to win, ended up losing today. Every damn one of them All up to Russ to help us today.

  59. Troy says:

    Come on Rus do the hawks one last solid and give us the #3

  60. HOUSE says:

    Just as Rob said, Bears tripped and fell into 1st place. It’s amazing how HOU winning hurt their draft position and the Colts helped themselves a bit.

  61. Big Mike says:

    Not happy about the colts winning but a little bit of salve on the wound for me is the Dolphins and Buffalo winning which kept the stealers out if the playoffs.
    Eff the stealers!

    • Big Mike says:

      Oh, now if we can just see the cowgirls lose in the first round we’ll be rid of both those franchises. That would be a good thing.
      Eff the cowgirls

  62. Roy Batty says:

    Man, the way people are commenting about the possible draft order, you would think we will be picking at #31.

    I get it, everyone wanted that top 3. There’s still a chance for it, but the team isn’t going to get better because of two draft spots. The team will get better by following last years draft formula. Trust the scouts. Follow their own big board. Snipe the fallen talent, when possible. Even trade up a bit if someone high on their own big board is within reach.

    I hope the Broncos players make business decisions. I hope the Chargers backups perform like the Rams players did. But, most of all, I hope the Hawks come out of this game with no injuries. Especially none that bleed into next year.

    Hawks 27-17.

    • bmseattle says:

      Well, if you have your eye on a particular QB (like Levis), and you want to ensure you can get him…#3 is a lot better than 5.

  63. Roy Batty says:

    Hahahaha, I guess Geno doesn’t want to play next week.

  64. Mick says:

    What a way to start, come on guys!

  65. Big Mike says:

    Forcing the ball to DK not the 1st time

  66. Kyle R says:

    Hahaha that’s the way to start the game

  67. Blitzy the Clown says:

    That’s the kind of throw Geno’s been very lucky with all year

    Guess his luck ran out

  68. Mick says:

    I can live with just a field goal, well done D.

  69. Big Mike says:

    Good job by the defense. Have to wonder why McVay didn’t just run it 3 times but we will take it

  70. Troy says:

    Oof…they can not afford to pay geno more than 30 mil

  71. Blitzy the Clown says:

    Thank the gods LJ Collier got the start today

  72. KD says:

    So the highest we can get with our native pick is #15, do I have that right?

    • Blitzy the Clown says:

      Who gets the tie breaker between Seattle and Green Bay?

      If the Packers lose that game they will have the same record and SOS as Seattle

      If Detroit loses, the Lions will have the tie breaker because they lost to Seattle

      • Blitzy the Clown says:

        I meant if Seattle lose as well

        • Big Mike says:

          If you are talking draft positioning head to head makes no difference from what I’ve heard. It’s all based on strength of schedule.

          • Blitzy the Clown says:

            But right now Seattle, GB and Detroit are all 8-8 with a SOS of .500.

            At the end of the day, Seattle will still be tied with one of them both in terms of record and SOS. So there has to be a tie breaker

          • Roy Batty says:

            This is correct.

          • Big Boi says:

            Correct, all that matters is SOS. There are tiebreakers beyond that if the SOS is the same but it’s pretty uncommon.

    • Big Boi says:

      Hawks can get #14 if the Commanders beat Dallas. Otherwise #15 is the best we can get. I was hoping for #12 as that gives a lot of flexibility for moving up.

  73. Roy Batty says:


    Per cha…this is the way.

  74. Blitzy the Clown says:

    DJ Dallas has been a bright spot this season

  75. Troy says:

    Honestly I don’t care if the rams are a shambles I’ll enjoy if we can keep this offensive production up all day

  76. Blitzy the Clown says:

    Maybe just line up Geno under center?

  77. Pran says:

    Lockett is better than DK. Someone need to tell him he is a good #2, that’s it

  78. Hawkster says:

    Mayfield looks bad

  79. Blitzy the Clown says:

    I’m so thrilled dead ender Bruce Irvin is out there padding his stats while the future Boye Mafe rides the bench

    • bmseattle says:

      The coaching staff is frantically trying to get Mafe into the game, clearly.
      They just…can’t do it.

    • 206 says:

      So edging stupid

    • Pran says:

      There is years of precedence for that.Pete just values experience over youth for DL. I don’t understand why he even drafts DL if you are not drafting blue chip players.

  80. Mick says:

    Bryant just showing you don’t need to pay Adams to blitz with your DBs.

  81. Blitzy the Clown says:

    Whoa boy Cross got beat inside nasty

    At least he didn’t hold and allowed Smith to get to the outside

  82. Roy Batty says:

    I almost had a heart attack when I say DJ in the wildcat.

  83. Big Mike says:

    Chargers and Donkeys tied at 7 later 1st quarter

  84. Palatypus says:

    Another field goal.

    I’d be fine with ten of those.

  85. Blitzy the Clown says:


  86. Big Mike says:

    Why is Mafe playing when Irvin is on the roster?

  87. Chris says:

    Amazing what a guy can do when you give him a chance

  88. ShowMeYourHawk says:

    Screen pass for a loss. Second verse, same as the first.

    • Palatypus says:

      Fried Ham! Fried Ham!
      Cheese and bologna!
      After the Macaroni we’ll have mustard, pickles and pretzels!
      And then we’ll have some more fried ham!

  89. Mick says:

    Isn’t Shane learning anything? We already had the Rams getting a pick 6 years ago on this crappy side throw.

  90. Big Mike says:

    Touchdown Chargers!!
    They lead 14-7

  91. Peter says:

    Nothing to see here folks. Seattle playing down to a wounded opponent with nothing to play for.

    The song that never ends….

  92. downtownjewelrybryan says:

    i dont think pete’s ever worn a hat as our hc

  93. Palatypus says:

    Was Tariq Woolen the best pick of the draft?

  94. bmseattle says:

    So…over/under on DK targets the rest of the game… 1.5

  95. Blitzy the Clown says:

    Cade Johnson with a nice reception

  96. Hawks4life says:

    Really hope we find a way to draft Richardson or Levis so they can learn behind Geno for a year, Geno is not the answer

  97. Blitzy the Clown says:

    And there’s another one of those unlucky passes

    With a very lucky outcome

  98. Pran says:

    Geno is a competent backup. End of discussion.

  99. bmseattle says:

    What is the count now… about 10 “should have been” interceptions for Geno this year?

    • Big Mike says:

      In that neighborhood
      I wish Matt were today. I think he has an actual count.

      • Matt says:

        Haha…I stopped keeping track but he had about 2 months of 2-3 legitimately dropped picks in every game.

        Again – the hitting analogy is that the guy is hitting .300 despite striking out 40% of the time. It’s unsustainable in the long term. Major regression candidate because turnover luck is out of everyone’s control.

  100. ShowMeYourHawk says:

    I, for one, am grateful that Geno is tip-toeing Pumpkin status. A shite game and he’s got WAY less justification for expecting a large offer.

  101. Mick says:

    The game plan is at its worst though, can’t put it all on Geno, as much as I want a better QB.

    • Pran says:

      3 and 2 but can’t run. I have not seen any other team struggle as much as Pete’s Seahawks in 3rd and short situations.

  102. pdway says:

    Geno looks bad no doubt – but also – what has happened to our pass game? Everything looks hard, nothing is downfield – – it was so different earlier in the year.

    Feels like the league figured our scheme out, and we have not adjusted.

  103. Hawkster says:

    A pair of NFCW powerhouses have brought their A-game to a stadium previously known as the clink. The obvious aside I guess I never caught much Mayfield, not pre-draft, no post-draft, but I had never heard of him as heavy footed.

  104. Big Mike says:

    PLEASE God do NOT let this be an achilles!

  105. ShowMeYourHawk says:

    Uh oh. Tariq down.

  106. Pran says:

    Defensive play calling is shit. Taylor is drooping back instead of rushing taking advantage of his speed on a shit DL.

    Is Cody a better MIKE than WILL by the way.

  107. Big Mike says:

    Donkeys with a FG
    14-10 Chargers

  108. Mick says:

    Mayfield isn’t any better than Geno, so glad we didn’t go for him.

  109. Palatypus says:

    If we lose today…

    GO LIONS !!!

  110. 12th chuck says:

    this defense is downright terrible.

  111. 12th chuck says:

    where is DK?

  112. Pran says:

    Seahawks do not deserve Playoffs.

    They can’t even compete with a half strength Rams.

  113. ShowMeYourHawk says:

    Garbage D. The offseason can’t come soon enough.

  114. Blitzy the Clown says:

    Irvin is just a waste of oxygen out there

    Zero upside to playing him at this point

  115. Mick says:

    Irvin, LBs and DBs looking crappy on that play. If we don’t wake up we’re losing this one.

  116. Kyle R says:

    Bruce is so out of position he isn’t even worth blocking

  117. Hawkster says:

    TD run had the look and feel of business decisions. A game between two teams who obviously dont belong in the playoffs where one has the chance to be soo cursed.

  118. Trevor says:

    Our defense sucks but how can any Seahawks fan who watched the last 7 weeks not realize how bad we need a QB. Geno is not the answer and never has been. He has had a solid year but sucked against the best teams and has been incredibly lucky with dropped interceptions.

    • AlaskaHawk says:

      I think Geno fits the abilities of the Seahawks. Why waste a good quarterback on us?? I mean really. It won’t make any difference with this mess. A good quarterback doesn’t improve the run game or make the defense tackle better.

    • Scot04 says:

      Bad thing is our HC feels similar to all those Seahawks fans that think he’s the long term answer. No need to draft QB early, ugh. Please JS take one if you like them.

    • Kyle R says:

      I agree 100 percent. No matter who’s the coach I want to get a QB with the Denver pick and then with other picks focus on both the lines with some best player available in there.

  119. AlaskaHawk says:

    First half grade a D??? Looks pretty pathetic.

  120. Rob Staton says:

    That first half performance was an utter disgrace

  121. JP says:

    So yeah, whatever Geno does in the second half, they can go ahead and find our QB of the future through the draft.

  122. 12th chuck says:

    this team doesn’t deserve a chance at the playoffs

  123. Big Mike says:

    FG Chargers
    They lead 17-10, almost halftime

  124. 12th chuck says:

    i truly hope this is PC last game

  125. STTBM says:

    This team is so poorly coached, from the HC to the LBs coach, offense and defense. It absolutely boggles my mind that there is even a single person left who thinks Carrol is doing a good job, or has any business coaching in the NFL.

    Watching the Seahawks has become like watching a problem gambler: you know they are likely to lose, and lose big. And they do.

    If rather watch paint dry than put up with PeteBall anymore.

  126. Blitzy the Clown says:

    Dammit Denver ties the game right before halftime

    Locked up at 17

  127. Big Mike says:

    Damn it, TD donkeys. 😞
    Tied at 17

  128. Scot04 says:

    Stupid Chargers, can’t give RW opportunities.

  129. Big Boi says:

    Broncos go 75 yards in 20 seconds to tie it up. Bosa hurt and Mike Williams hurt. I’d be surprised if we see any Chargers starters in the second half.

  130. Roy Batty says:

    Wow, so many empty seats at Lumen.

  131. Matt says:

    I feel like fans that want *this* team in the playoffs also think they were the most handsome boy in school because mom said so.

  132. Big Mike says:

    Good job by DK hold on to that ball

  133. ShowMeYourHawk says:

    Rapp leading with his neck, gets hurt. #ThatsAShame

  134. Big Mike says:

    Perfect throw there

  135. Big Mike says:

    Tyler damned well better be in the ROH after he retires

  136. Travis says:

    Much better drive by Geno

  137. Big Mike says:

    TD Donkeys
    They lead 24-17

  138. ShowMeYourHawk says:

    The more of this pathetic run D I see, the more I want to plug Siaki Ika in the middle.

  139. Big Boi says:

    Justin Herbert still playing for the Chargers so there’s a chance. Either that or Staley is trying to get himself fired.

  140. Stuart says:


    GO CHARGERS!!!!!

  141. Matt says:

    GD Broncos…what a disaster day.

  142. Blitzy the Clown says:

    INT Chargers!

  143. Simo says:

    At least Geno is doing his part to improve our draft position!!

  144. 12th chuck says:

    geno,30 mil qb, NOT!

  145. AlaskaHawk says:

    hmm Geno Smith was 4 for 4 in the second half for 86 yards passing, until the interception! OUch

  146. Pran says:

    DK 5 targets, 2 completions 2 INT

  147. Big Mike says:

    Why would McVay even bother trying to throw the football?

  148. UkAlex6674 says:

    Getting tired of having to put up with listening to people who are STILL saying we need to roll with Geno next year and don’t need to draft a QB.

    • Rob Staton says:

      Now has 13 TD’s and 7 picks since the bye

      And how many near-interceptions?

      People out there saying, ‘don’t need a QB’ — not even as a long term QBOTF type

  149. Big Boi says:

    Chargers settle for a FG. Playing their starters and STILL losing to the Broncos. Staley gonna get fired if they get blown out in the playoffs and they might. They don’t look very good.

  150. Big Mike says:

    Chargers FG
    24-20 Denver

    Cmon Russ, we need you to turn it over a couple more times

  151. Matt says:

    Is Brock Purdy the perfect Shanahan QB? And I mean when you factor in the capital to acquire him. What an amazing system. Purdy couldn’t do this on another team…but who cares? I’d be tempted to shop Lance and see if they could recoup a Day 2 pick. That roster can win with Purdy’s current play.

  152. Stuart says:

    What would it take for Carol to retire?

    We lose today and Detroit goes to playoffs or we win today?

  153. Trevor says:

    This team will get destroyed for the 3rd time by SF if they somehow squeak into the playoffs.

  154. Big Mike says:

    Better tackling by our D today. Good job finally getting there in week 18

  155. Zach says:

    Looks like Geno’s market is drying up faster than the state of California in the summer. He’ll be lucky to get 20 mill. If Pete sticks around, he will think he could get this kind of play out of Lock

    • ShowMeYourHawk says:

      $30 million over two years with incentives that take it to $40 million. That’d be my offer. Any longer needs a lower annual base and less guarantees. He doesn’t like it, he can try to catch on elsewhere.

      • Pran says:

        10-12APY 2 offer. What difference does it make if he is not good enough to take team to playoffs. SB or bust.

        • AlaskaHawk says:

          Agree with Pran, no need to pay more.

          • Zach says:

            For all the people comparing Geno’s situation to Rivers in Indy, Rivers had a much longer track record of production. Geno has had zero outside of this year. He’s going to pull a Clowney and want 20 mill and settle for much less because the market froze him out

  156. Blitzy the Clown says:

    Chargers sack Wilson on 3rd down and get the ball back with 4:30 left in the 3rd

  157. Troy says:

    From a draft perspective, today has gone pretty much 100% awful for hawks. Indy loses, Arizona will most likely lose, broncos leading…fuck me

  158. Big Mike says:

    Would 2 sub .500 seasons in a row be enough to get Carroll to retire?

  159. Blitzy the Clown says:

    Chargers fumble on Denver’s 10 yard line. Denver recovers

  160. UkAlex6674 says:

    What a break

  161. SEAhemoth82 says:

    Geno Smith’s body language is Kyler Murray-esque right now.

  162. Kyle R says:

    Hey Geno maybe if early on in the roll out if you would have hit Parkinson you could have picked up 5-6 yards instead of a 2 yard loss running it out of bounds.

  163. Stuart says:

    What a break. Our guy pushed him clearly on the replays.

  164. ShowMeYourHawk says:

    Unleash Dareke!

  165. AlaskaHawk says:

    Getting some offense now, they sure aren’t running the ball often. Looks like the Geno Smith show.

  166. Big Mike says:

    Horrible play call on 3rd and 1

  167. Big Boi says:

    Seahawks legend Freddie Swain pulls in a 50 yard pass from Russ. Yuck.

  168. Kyle R says:

    Why in the Hell do you call an empty toss play on 3rd and one

  169. SEAhemoth82 says:

    A toss play?!

  170. Blitzy the Clown says:

    Denver score a TD go up 31-20 over LAC

  171. Big Boi says:

    Broncos score another TD. Russ looks like his old self. What’s dumber than playing your starters? Playing your starters and getting smoked by a 4 win team.

  172. AlaskaHawk says:

    Yeah Baby, Oh how we want to be the bullies again!

  173. Kyle R says:

    At least they had a FB for distraction on that toss play

  174. SEAhemoth82 says:

    Nice blocking Chuck!

  175. Big Mike says:

    31-20 Denver
    We’re picking 5th

  176. DC says:

    So we’re going to end up with #5? Will 1 of the top QBs be there or if not who would trade up?

  177. Big Mike says:

    Austin Blythe babeeee!

    • Scot04 says:

      He got pushed all the way back passed the 4yd line. No push, we definitely need a Center.

  178. Blitzy the Clown says:

    Wow with most of the 4th quarter left (11 minutes) Brandon Staley is wrapping it up and calling it a game.

    Go cower in the corner and fear the coming playoffs, you lowly cur

  179. Mr Magic says:

    All 3 timeouts used b4 the 2 min warning. sigh

  180. Pran says:

    Good call.. trying to run behind Blythe. If you decide to run every time why not stack the line ?We need a bruising RB..

  181. 509 Chris says:

    I think picking 5 could be a blessing in disguise. I’ve wanted Richardson for some time now and the 2 defenders, levis and stroud will likely be gone.

  182. Blitzy the Clown says:

    Chargers recover a muffed fumble deep in Broncos territory!

  183. ShowMeYourHawk says:

    Kicking for the tie? Why? Did Waldron not have a 5yd-losing screen pass drawn up?

  184. KennyBadger says:

    Breaking news – Seattles OL is soft up the middle.

  185. AlaskaHawk says:

    Waaa, Waaaa. Lets see Seahawks moving the ball passing. Then run the ball for a first down. Continue running and eventually fail to get a goal from 2 yards out. Not impressed.

  186. Kyle R says:

    The last series of play calls and plays says all you need to know about how the coaches feel about the interior line and then on that last play shows why. 3 and inches outside toss. 4th and inches outside toss. Next play inside the 5 yard line outside run almost to the 2. 3rd and goal from the 2 inside run and it’s stuffed for a loss.

  187. Tony says:

    Defense to save the season now. Just like pete wanted.

  188. Blitzy the Clown says:

    TD Chargers 31-26 pending the PAT/2 point conversion

  189. ShowMeYourHawk says:

    We need a “Thunder” RB to complement Walker’s “Lightning.” K9 is crafty and zippy but he’s not a “smash your f*cking face in” runner that we need for short yds and goal line stands.

  190. Blitzy the Clown says:

    Juuuuuust barely a touchback

  191. Blitzy the Clown says:

    Effen Ramsey what a dirty hit

  192. Blitzy the Clown says:

    Chargers hold Denver to a punt and are back on offense down 3 with 4:16 to go

  193. Bmseattle says:

    Another statement 4th quarter comeback by Geno?

  194. Hawkster says:

    The Ramsey hit looks to be setting up a gwFG …. and BONK

  195. Pran says:

    DK the man child looses more games than help win.

  196. Big Mike says:

    2nd miss of the year? Not good timing

  197. AlaskaHawk says:

    OMG – Why did the Seahawks give me hope and then doink it away????

  198. Blitzy the Clown says:

    Am I bad that I’m not disappointed Myers missed?

  199. Kyle R says:

    HAHAHA doink

  200. 12th chuck says:

    DK is an idiot ffs

  201. ShowMeYourHawk says:

    Meh. Natural draft position is still healthy.

  202. ShowMeYourHawk says:

    Chargers game means so much more than this one, honestly. Acknowledging that sucks.

    • HOUSE says:

      Agreed… Dropping to 5th is bleh

      • ImUrHuckleBerri says:

        Unless there is a QB out of Stroud, Levis, Richardson, and Young that they feel stands way above the rest then #5 might not be too bad. Just puts some risk in that Chicago and Arizona could trade out of their spots to teams looking to hop in front of Seattle for a QB. Being at #3 is ideal obviously since it eliminates missing out on the Top 4 completely.

  203. HOUSE says:

    Today is ugly…

  204. Blitzy the Clown says:

    Chargers punt to Denver pin them at their own 5 yard line. 3 minutes left

  205. Matt says:

    How was that not grounding?

  206. ShowMeYourHawk says:

    I’m all for cutting Diggs this offseason but… f*ck me, that was pretty.

  207. Hawkster says:

    once again Diggs showboats instead of finishing the play

  208. Matt says:

    Serious homecooking with this officiating…Jesus.

  209. Scot04 says:

    So lucky Mayfield can’t throw deep.

  210. AlaskaHawk says:

    The refs have been generous on three non calls.
    Metcalf hitting back of Ramsey’s helmet
    Not calling Geno for grounding
    And not calling Diggs for taunting.

  211. AlaskaHawk says:

    Maybe they go for other hash mark when they kick this time?

  212. Blitzy the Clown says:

    Denver will win

    This day really couldn’t have gone much worse for Seattle’s draft stock

  213. GoHawks5151 says:

    Screw you Staley. Losers mentality. They won’t go far and I wish them no success

    • downtownjewelrybryan says:

      weird…he kept starters out there past halftime but wont let the game play out and use the timeouts?

  214. AlaskaHawk says:

    Alright, well good for the Seahawks, a hard fought game.

  215. Matt says:

    Pete won’t retire now because refs decided to hand every opportunity to us. Just a disaster for the franchise moving forward.

    I’m sorry…but false hope is going to make the future very painful.

    • Matt says:

      I know…bad form to root for losses – this team is almost unwatchable. I can’t do another year of this.

  216. Big Mike says:

    Damn you Chargers

  217. UkAlex6674 says:

    Man I love following this team!

  218. AlaskaHawk says:

    Jimmy Johnson, just announced Seahawks would be getting #3 pick in draft. I thought it would be 5 or 6?

  219. BK Matty says:

    If you told me before the season we would pick 5th and 18th-ish, I woulda been upset thinking the 5th was ours and we won too many games. Remember in Sept we had this team winning 3 games maybe…. Shows you that you never know how it will turn out.

    • BK Matty says:

      Yet if you told me preseason we would have the 5th pick from Denver I would have had an accident in me pantaloons.

  220. Ashish says:

    I’m disappointed Denver draft pick dropped from 3rd to 5th but let’s be honest 5th pick is very good. If we draft well it should not matter.

  221. Big Boi says:

    Denver winning and us dropping to 5 is bad.
    Us winning and dropping our pick from 14 to 17 is bad.
    Dolphins winning, which guarantees that the forfeited pick is above us and not below us is bad.
    Us going to the playoffs only to get crushed by the 9ers and drop our pick to 19 is worse.
    Geno winning another game and Qandry Diggs getting an int, both enough to convince this front office to keep both, is awful.
    If there is a QB that JS covets, he can’t just “let the draft come to him”. He’ll have to be aggressive trading picks to move up. Let’s hope that there isn’t a QB he absolutely loves and that he’s okay with whichever one falls to him so that he can keep swinging on the other picks.
    If he uses our second first and both of our seconds to move from 5 to 1, I will consider today an unmitigated disaster.

    • Big Boi says:

      I forgot to preface the last sentence. #2 is going QB. #3 isn’t trading with us and is ripe for another team to move up to grab QB. #4 is going QB. Bears are best option to move up and there will be a lot of competition for that spot. The NFL pick value chart suggests it could only take the two ones and one of the twos to get to first but I think the competition will be stiff. Chicago is going to get everything it can out of that pick since it has so many needs.

  222. Forrest says:

    Here are my thoughts in the game:

    Another first play of the game INT? Can’t we draw up and execute something better to begin a game?
    I liked how we pulled offensive linemen and got them out in space in the first half. Thst looks new.
    3 offensive offsides were drive killers in the first half.
    I counted five wasted time outs in the game.
    1/9 on third down when I stopped counting.
    DK almost cost us another game with his boneheaded antics. We’re lucky on the obvious personal foul no call right in front of the ref when he pushed Ramsey’s helmet. Then, WHAT was he doing back on the field during the field goal kick?!? Can we admit this guy has issues? The coach should have corrected this four games ago, but it continues to show up every week.
    That goodness for Ken Walker.

    Why did it take a player getting blocked into the kicker and getting called for roughing to beat one of the worst teams in football without their starting QB, star WR and star defender?