Curtis Allen’s week fourteen watchpoints (vs Panthers)

December 11th, 2022 | Written by Rob Staton

This is a guest article by Curtis Allen. Apologies for the late posting, I had a rough Saturday night with England losing. After the game today tune into the instant reaction live stream which will be available on here and on our YouTube channel

The Seahawks need to look at this game as an end of one segment and the beginning of another.  Why?

This game finishes a tough quarter for the team.  After badly disappointing losses in Germany against Tampa and in Seattle hosting the Raiders, they went to Los Angeles and handled the Rams to give themselves a chance to split the quarter at 2-2 with a win this week against the Panthers.

It also starts the stretch run in which the Seahawks have four of their last five games at home.

In the old days, that was a big advantage.  The Seahawks were nearly unbeatable at home.  In recent years they have faltered.  They are 17-13 at home since 2019 and were a Pete Carrol-era worst 3-5 last year.

It is time to reclaim that identity and it starts on Sunday.  Can they do it?

That depends on if they can defeat the same opponent that they have been playing for the last three weeks.  What do I mean by that?

The Panthers are oddly similar to Tampa, Las Vegas and the Rams.  Consider:

  • They are playing better than their record indicates and should not be taken lightly 
  • They have an underrated running game the Seahawks will have to contend with
  • Their quarterback position is not having the best season, but he can be effective if not bothered by the pass rush
  • They have a defense you can move the ball and score on but has some dangerous players that can flip the game if you are not careful

One last factor has nothing to do with who they are playing:  With all due respect to their opponents so far this quarter, the Seahawks are just as responsible for their losses as the other teams are for their wins.  They have struggled with their own standards for good play, particularly on their defensive line.  

In the last three games, the Seahawks have had only five sacks, fourteen quarterback pressures and have given up 615 rushing yards.  That performance has led to them conceding an average of 28 per game.

Those numbers are unacceptable.  And in view of what the defense accomplished earlier in the season, are greatly due to their own poor game planning, coaching and play on the field.  

They can and must do better.  It must start Sunday against Carolina if they are to build up some momentum as they push to make the playoffs.

As they have a similar opponent, the Watch Points will not be too unfamiliar to regular readers.  

We will start with looking at where most games are won or lost – in the trenches.

The Panthers have won two of their last three, sandwiching wins against Atlanta and Denver around a loss to the Ravens.

What has been the difference?  Carolina’s lines on both sides.

The Seahawks Must Get Better Play from the Defensive Line

In their two wins, the Carolina offensive line has conceded only two sacks and a grand total of five pressures.  The team also gained 417 yards on the ground.  

Their loss to Baltimore?  Four sacks, seven pressures and only 36 rushing yards.  Baker Mayfield had to carry the offense and threw two interceptions in the loss.  (side note:  36-year-old Calais Campbell recorded a sack by absolutely manhandling Austin Corbett and then accelerating to Mayfield.  It was amazing.)

The Panthers have had a rising offensive line this season.  They are in the top-5 ranked units by PFF in pass protection, and every lineman has a PFF grade above 62.

Last week against a pretty good Broncos defensive front they kept Sam Darnold clean, not allowing a single sack and only allowing three pressures on 19 dropbacks.  The running backs carried the offense with 185 yards.

Now you see why I say this pattern is familiar.  The Seahawks have been unable to either stop the run or consistently bring pressure on the quarterback in recent weeks.  The Panthers controlled the line of scrimmage on offense and it showed.  

Do not let the Panthers’ coaching change or the revolving door at quarterback lull you into a false sense of confidence that this team is in shambles.  They are doing the best thing a team in their state can do:  running the ball a lot, protecting the quarterback and avoiding mistakes.  The defensive line has a tall task on Sunday.

D’Onta Foreman has been performing nicely for the Panthers since they traded Christian McCaffrey.  He is averaging 18 carries for 83 yards for a nice 4.59 yards per carry and .80 touchdowns in the span.  To give you a gauge, that is roughly what Dalvin Cook is averaging this year over 12 games.

Foreman has demonstrated a great vision in finding holes to run through.  He reminds me of Josh Jacobs in a way.  Even when he is contained, he still falls forward for three or four yards.  And when he finds an open lane, look out.  He is going to pick up some yards.

The challenge is, while he can run between the tackles effectively, his best runs this year have been exploiting the edges, an area where the Seahawks have been very poor.  Last week against the Rams, Sean McVay attacked Bruce Irvin on the right side mercilessly.  Irvin was frequently unable to establish the edge as he was either out of position or outmuscled by a blocker.

The Panther offense is not as creative as the Rams’ is – not many can say they are – but they have a more direct approach to running.  ‘This is what we’re going to do, and we’re going to move you out of our way.’  The defensive line needs better scheming and better play Sunday.  Success in the running game plays right into the Panthers’ success:  It eats the clock up, keeps Sam Darnold from having to carry more than he is capable of, the Panther pass rushers rested and the Seahawks’ explosive offensive players off the field.

It is critical that the Seahawks’ front seven play better Sunday.  Putting pressure on Sam Darnold to carry the offense will be job number one.

The Seahawks’ offensive line faces a similar task.

The Offensive Linemen Need to Control the Line of Scrimmage

In those two Panther wins, their defense recorded eight sacks and 29 pressures.  Their loss?  They did sack Lamar Jackson three times but only had four pressures.  Jackson was 24 for 33 but his receivers dropped five balls.  The point being, the passing game was not largely affected by the pass rush, as Jackson had enough time to go 29 for 33 in passing.

Brian Burns stands as a great young pass rusher with ten sacks so far this season.  Both offensive tackles will have to be sharp in order to keep him from wrecking the Seahawks’ plans on offense.

Derrick Brown is coming into his own as a run-stopping force in the middle.  He is sporting a very robust 85.5 PFF grade, and is sixth in the NFL in tackles for interior linemen with 50.  Austin Blythe and the guards will have their hands full trying to keep him in check.

And yet, there is a yin-and-yang quality to this defense.  Burns is a great pass-rusher and that is very impactful.  But he has yet to round out his game, as he has not been able to attain at least a 70 PFF score on a season.  He is still learning when to explode up the field and when to read the play and stay home and help in the running game.

And Brown?  He has provided disruption for other players but has really yet to reach the pass rush plateau he projected as the #7 overall pick in 2020.  He has only one sack and ten pressures this year.

Further:  Those two weeks where they won games and were rushing the passer well?  They gave up 259 rushing yards on 44 attempts for an ugly 5.88 yards per carry average.

On a season level, they are in the bottom ten for sacks and pressures, and have conceded 100 yards rushing in every game except two.

This defense is a work in progress, and there is a formula to having offensive success against them.

It does start with the boys up front.  You can look at stats for a year stretch and a three-game stretch and project all you like.  But in the moment, those things melt away when you are lining up across these two talented players.  The whole line will need to execute to keep them from severely altering your offensive game plan.

But it is also up to the Shane Waldron and the staff to unlock that formula.

Use the Offense to Control the Game

This is not a new topic.  The defense has been wanting this year, while the offense most often has been the one to propel the team forward.

Absent a much better performance from the defense on Sunday, it will fall on the offense once again to deliver a win for the team.

They have done incredibly well this year, and yet at times because of the defense, we find ourselves needing just a tad bit more.  A turnover here, a penalty there, or a lack of a consistent run game that we are used to can be the difference in a tough game like this.  Their execution will need to be on point.

Geno Smith has reached the point where surprise at his excellent performance on the field has morphed into consistent high expectations.  Fans already anticipate another 70% completion game where Smith spreads the ball all around the field.  Last week he took another step forward, answering the ‘but he has not led a game-winning fourth quarter drive yet’ concern decisively.

This week?  As all players know, past successes need to be relegated to the background of their mind and proper focus needs to be placed on the task at hand.

He will need to execute Waldron’s gameplan at a high level once again.  This week, it may mean picking up the slack for a run game that cannot get untracked, or making a quicker decision than he would like because a pass rusher is in his face.

It may mean targeting C.J. Henderson, who is allowing a 76.8% completion rate and a 110 QB rating, as opposed to rising star Jaycee Horn (51.2% completion and 48 QB rating).  Or it may mean trusting his wide receivers when Horn is covering them and making accurate throws that give them a shot.

There will be a balance that is needed, one quality that Geno and the offense have excelled at so far.  Using the tight ends, the run game and taking shots to the wide receivers for big plays will all be needed to be sprinkled into the game liberally.  A ‘let’s play conservative and see how the game unfolds’ approach the Seahawks have at times deployed will not be the easiest path to success.

The Seahawks need to take the field and clearly demonstrate why they are stretching forward to the playoffs while the Panthers are once again looking forward to the draft next year.  A 14-0 lead early in the game would be just what the doctor ordered.  It would take the Panther offense out of their comfort zone and help the defense pin their ears back and get aggressive with some sacks or forcing some turnovers.

There is potential that this game could propel them into their Thursday night matchup against San Francisco with gusto.  They will need all the momentum they can muster if they are to contend for the NFC West division title.  A win on Sunday could be the start of something big.

317 Responses to “Curtis Allen’s week fourteen watchpoints (vs Panthers)”

  1. Chris says:

    Typical defensive start

  2. ShowMeYourHawk says:

    Defer? Sure! We love playing from behind….

    • Big Mike says:

      When your defense is as bad as ours I just simply cannot understand why we don’t take the ball try and score 1st when we win the tossWhen your defense is as bad as ours I just simply cannot understand why we don’t take the ball try and score 1st when we win the toss

  3. cha says:

    Tariq Woolen doesn’t run.

    He teleports.

  4. Rob Staton says:

    I really want to apologise to Curtis and to the community for not posting this at the usual time, hours before kick-off.

    As sad as it sounds, I’m absolutely desperate to see England win something in my lifetime and yesterday was a crushing blow.

    I completely switched off from everything and zoned out. Big mistake and I’m sorry.

  5. Chris says:

    Woolen is one of the few bright spots on this defense

  6. ShowMeYourHawk says:


    Another successful deferring of the ball, Pete.

  7. Big Mike says:

    I had a bad feeling about this game….

  8. Henry Taylor says:

    Not sure where Quandre Diggs was going there

  9. Chris says:

    I still think the hawks would be better If they picked 10 fans outta the stands to play defense next to woolen

  10. ShowMeYourHawk says:

    “Can you win a game in the 1st quarter?!?!?”

    No Pete, but you can sure as he’ll try to lose one.

  11. Sea Mode says:


    Brady Henderson

    Schneider said of the Panthers, “This is probably the best offensive line we’ve seen this season.”

  12. Sea Mode says:

    So much for going up 14-0 early, Cha… 🤷‍♂️

  13. Big Mike says:

    More crap NFL officiating that should have been a defensive pass interference but quite obviously the referee figured well they were off side so it doesn’t matter

  14. Chris says:

    Geno is really trying to give the ball away

  15. dand393 says:

    My goodness Geno is off his mark today

  16. Sea Mode says:

    Settle down now, Geno

  17. Pran says:

    There is no margin of error for offense with that defensive disaster on the other side. It’s going to be a long day unless Darnold helps

  18. GoHawks5151 says:

    These corners need to get off blocks jeeze

  19. Mick says:

    Prolly a candidate for worst quarter this year.

  20. Ashish says:

    Hawks needs to settle down both sides of the ball.

  21. Hawks4life says:

    I still don’t understand why we can’t tackle… unbelievably soft defense

  22. ShowMeYourHawk says:

    I mean, this team f*cking practices, right? WTF?

  23. Troy says:

    Not a playoff team with a defense like this. Everything is just so easy for the opponent. No pass rush, no toughness, no swagger.

  24. Sea Mode says:

    Nwosu getting dominated by a TE on those last couple plays. Get off your block, man!

  25. Pran says:

    No doubt Pete is a disaster year after year, can’t field an average at best defense no matter

  26. James says:

    This defense is soft.

  27. Chris says:

    Who would have thought that Pete would be a q.b whisperer but can’t field a respectable defense

  28. Troy says:

    Getting blown up in the trenches AGAIN.

    • Roy Batty says:

      Luckily Pete is a defensive minded head coach.

      Which has accounted for nothing for half a decade.

  29. ShowMeYourHawk says:

    Escort Hurtt and his man-tits off of the sideline to clean out his office, please.

  30. Chris says:

    Pete has never valued defensive tackles and it’s really showing up the last couple years

  31. Ashish says:

    With this DL we are not selecting QB with our 1st pick

  32. Hawks4life says:

    At least the Broncos will lose today

  33. Big Mike says:

    Serious question, When was the last time this team’s defense was even middle of the road? 5 years ago?

    • Leo says:

      5 years sounds right, 2017 was when the “reset” was supposed to happen from the LOB. And the wait continues…

  34. 206 says:

    Man, the 9ers Chiefs and jets are going to shred our defense

  35. Blitzy the Clown says:

    Geno Ice mouthafuckas!

    Just kidding. It’s been a shit show so far

    But these last 2 passes to Goodwin and Lockett are alright

  36. Roy Batty says:

    One of the worst interior offensive lines in the middle on the run and they continue to run it up the middle.


  37. Pran says:

    Give that Hubbard kid a raise. His contempt for Hawks D on that touchdown and recklessness with ball says it all

  38. Big Mike says:

    God Schlereth is brutal
    Marquis Godwin
    DJ Lockett

  39. Blitzy the Clown says:


    Lockett with the TD!

  40. Roy Batty says:

    Lockett, still having a sneaky great season this year.

  41. Mick says:

    Come on Geno, bring us back in it. We need a win today.

  42. Sea Mode says:

    THAT is how you toe tap!

  43. Roy Batty says:

    Mahommes currently has 224 yards. Russ, 62.

    In the first half…

  44. Feindt says:

    Silver lining: The Chiefs are currently demolishing Denver

    • Big Mike says:

      I’m wondering if the Denver defense has finally just quit on the season

      • Blitzy the Clown says:

        Well it is KC but yeah. They can’t carry the team

        I just heard the announcer say that 52% of Denver’s drives have ended in a punt this year, tops in the League

  45. Mick says:

    Meanwhile, Taylor is back to life.

  46. Blitzy the Clown says:

    Taylor says no no no

  47. Chris says:

    Hopefully this is Taylor’s coming out party this year

  48. pdway says:

    OK …that’s what we’ve been looking for #52.

    is it possible he’s been so invisible until last week/this week due to injuries?

    • Sea Mode says:

      I don’t think so. I think he currently only has the speed rush in his bag. If that fails, he just gets swallowed up and has no counter.

  49. Blitzy the Clown says:

    That’s how you use Taylor

  50. Sea Mode says:

    Hey now, there you go, DT!

  51. KD says:

    Ouch. Russ throws a pick 6 and the Broncos are already done for before the half

  52. Chris says:

    If geno isn’t careful Pete’s gonna bench him

  53. Matt says:

    Turnover luck flipping…has been my concern all year.

  54. Big Mike says:

    We just got screwed royally

  55. pdway says:

    come on REFS!

  56. Big Mike says:

    Just more horrid NFL officiating

  57. Chris says:

    Digs is so useless it’s almost comical

  58. Henry Taylor says:

    So the refs realised the screwed up but instead of picking up the flag they just don’t announce the penalty and give them the yards anyway.

    Cheers refs

  59. Big Mike says:

    So the question is do they have it out for the seahawks because there’s sure been a lot of stuff go against us in the last 3 or 4 weeks or they just utterly completely and totally inept?

  60. Roy Batty says:

    This will be a slugfest where Carolina just bullies the Hawks all game long.

  61. Big Mike says:

    So the question is do they have it out for the seahawks because there’s sure been a lot of stuff go against us in the last 3 or 4 weeks or they just utterly completely and totally inept?

    • Matt says:

      Horse collar was bad.

      The other one…guy clearly jumped but I thought he got back inside before the snap.

  62. Blitzy the Clown says:

    The truth is, the Panthers OL is better than the Seahawks DL

    Sadly, that’s the truth most weeks

  63. Blitzy the Clown says:

    I see you Irvin!

  64. Roy Batty says:

    OK, Geno, earn that off season extension. Duplicate the end of last weeks game and walk into the locker room with your head high.

  65. pdway says:

    good hold by the D there.

    That offsides/free play is such a big missed call – b/c Geno did what you usually want your QB to do in that situation, take a shot. can’t believe it wasn’t called.

  66. Roy Batty says:

    That ain’t DJ Dallas…

  67. Sea Mode says:

    Oof, and the stiff arm to face plant to boot…

  68. Hawkster says:

    anybody got name ?

  69. Hawks4life says:

    Geno struggles throwing the ball away in big time moments

  70. Roy Batty says:

    Geno is up and down today on decision making.

  71. Mick says:

    Field goal here isn’t good enough.

  72. Roy Batty says:

    Carolinas tackling is soooooo much better than the Hawks.

  73. Feindt says:

    The missing Running Game really hurts the scheme. They seriously Need to consider drafting a RB in 2023.

  74. Mick says:

    Yey DK, now we’re back in business.

  75. Big Mike says:

    REALLY needed that

  76. Blitzy the Clown says:

    Geno (🔥+) Ice

  77. pdway says:

    great throw on the TD…after a couple questionable ones….but I’ll take it.

  78. Roy Batty says:

    Now, how about they start mixing in some motion plays to get the run game going in the 2nd half?

    Enough of this power run crap that NEVER works.

    Just get something going to confuse the LBs and DBs.

  79. Sea Mode says:

    Wow, and somehow we are back in the game despite everything.

    • pdway says:

      when you add Walker back to the mix – we really do have a very talented offense on this team. Explosive.

      Geno has me just a little worried – but i’m in general ready to roll w him next year – and use those picks to shore up this very mediocre defense.

      • Roy Batty says:

        Hopefully they concentrate on D in the draft and make surgical picks on stud offensive weapons that fall to them.

      • AlaskaHawk says:

        Isn’t that the problem though? When has the running game been dependable? Why so many injuries?

      • 12th chuck says:

        I don’t know, but if you have a chance at the next franchise qb, I think you should take it. Even as horrendous as the d is, you still take the qb

  80. GoHawks5151 says:

    Deebo carted off in SF

  81. Chris says:

    Niners don’t need Debo to smoke us

  82. Roy Batty says:

    #38 had better be returning every single kick from here til seasons end.

  83. Roy Batty says:


  84. AlaskaHawk says:

    I like Igwebuike, maybe he can learn our running plays to. The guy has some big energy.

  85. Blitzy the Clown says:

    Another inside run to start the half


  86. Hawkster says:

    No idea who that dude is

  87. Blitzy the Clown says:

    Goodwin workin hard!

  88. Roy Batty says:

    A run worked. I might faint.

  89. Roy Batty says:

    Booooo, go for it.

  90. Hawkster says:

    Geno and a 2nd half clutch 1st down on a 10+ scamper is getting routine.

  91. KennyBadger says:

    Looking forward to seeing the defensive adjustments here in the second half. Onside kicking all the time might be an improvement.

  92. Hawks4life says:

    Russ has the Broncos within a score after throwing 3 straight touchdowns

  93. Sea Mode says:

    Time to take the lead and not look back…

  94. Matt says:

    Man Darnold is bad. Really amazed how bad of an NFL QB he became. Every ounce of play making at USC is non-existent now. That’s about as easy of a 3rd conversion you can get and he just lollipops a throw downfield. Yeesh.

    *I was hoping to take him as a reclamation project a few years ago…my God, no.

  95. pdway says:

    Darnold so could have run for that first

  96. Big Mike says:

    Ugly 3 and out

  97. Kyle R says:

    I’m tired of them not going back to the short and intermittent TE passing game to help with the lack of running game.

  98. AlaskaHawk says:

    Feeling a loss of momentum with the Seahawks. Hope our defense can stiffen up.

  99. Big Mike says:

    Another failed challenge?

  100. Matt says:

    Holy hell that didn’t touch the ground!?

    How is that even possible??

  101. downtownjewelrybryan says:

    here’s where we lose another catch/non-catch review

  102. Chris says:

    We can’t even win an obvious replay. There’s no way we win this one

  103. ShowMeYourHawk says:

    We seem to see a miraculous play work against the Hawks every damn week.

  104. Palatypus says:

    And the Chiefs score!

  105. ShowMeYourHawk says:

    I want Hurtt fired into the goddamned Sun.

    • Big Mike says:

      Pete Carroll “defensive coach”

    • BobbyK says:

      Perhaps if the real decision makers actually had enough legitimate NFL talent on that side of the ball he’d be a much better coordinator? Not sure how many defensive coordinators dominate with subpar overall talent. There’s no true disruptor in the front four. The LBs aren’t very good collectively. Brooks is a good player but he’s one player on the unit. We have Woolen and after that it’s really not a great group of DBs either. What DC would have this group playing at a high level?

      • ShowMeYourHawk says:

        I won’t argue that more talent on the field would garner better results. That said, a good Coordinator would manage his scheme to obscure the deficiencies in the field. He seems incapable of altering his scheme. Anyone can coordinate with the LOB in the field. He’s not worth retaining, even with an influx of talent this offseason.

  106. UkAlex6674 says:

    So glad we don’t have to play the 49ers next game.

    Oh wait….

  107. Big Mike says:

    “2 guys had him dead to rights”
    Maybe the worst tackling Hawks team I’ve ever seen.

  108. Sea Mode says:

    Why have they shown Macadoo so.many. times. on broadcast?

  109. Big Mike says:

    This time I think Schlereth is right on. They’ve been running all over a skit to the 4 yd line and throw it 4 straight times. Makes no sense at all

  110. AlaskaHawk says:

    I’ll take it – but the defense after that heroic goal line stand must be tired.

    Need a long drive for a touchdown.

  111. Palatypus says:

    Jerry Jeudy has decided to try today.

  112. pdway says:

    Good stand by the D….let’s go O

    • pdway says:

      really sucks to have no good RB’s in this situation

      • AlaskaHawk says:

        It’s infuriating! Really not fair to Geno Smith and the offensive line. Makes this team one dimensional.

        • Pran says:

          Hawks have failed to develop or acquire reliable RB talent over the years. Anoth failure on Pete. Lot of teams are easily ablw to plug and play RBs but not Pete

  113. Big Mike says:

    DK man. That was brutal

  114. cha says:

    Absolutely garbage play calling by the panthers.

    They’ve been pushing the DL around all day. Calling Sam darnold to pass from three yards out more than once he criminal negligence

  115. Big Mike says:

    We don’t need no stinking time outs

    • Tallyhawk says:

      We need to save that last one so Pete can waste a challenge if needed. I was actually stunned when they said Pete had only challenged 4 times all season. Feels like he wastes one every game.

  116. Leo says:

    There’s that timeout management we know and love!

  117. pdway says:

    man, god bless Lockett’s reliability

  118. Palatypus says:

    I think Frank Clark just gave Russ a concussion.

  119. AlaskaHawk says:

    Thank God, Tyler Lockett for first down.

  120. Chris says:

    Pete is a game day moron

  121. Matt says:

    I’ll give Geno credit…opposing teams just refuse to catch balls thrown at them and then he delivers a big throw on 3rd to kill ‘em.

    Not sure I’ve ever seen anything like this before.

  122. Chris says:

    Geno has so many close call int.

    • Matt says:

      I get shit for calling that out all the time…dude is playing great but lucky he doesn’t have 15
      Picks on the year.

  123. Big Mike says:

    Possibly the worst screen team in the history of football

  124. Hawks4life says:

    Homer is practically useless

  125. pdway says:

    that’s jsut an obvious defensive holding – not called

  126. Sea Mode says:

    We could sure use a classic gift from Darnold here…

  127. Chris says:

    How many missed tackles today?

    • ShowMeYourHawk says:

      I’m about ready for this team to commit to the tank and completely reshape the distance. No need to try and make a wild card only to get boat raced AND lose draft capital.

  128. Hawkster says:

    Yea, call an option and have Darnold keep it.

  129. Big Mike says:

    Why does anyone ever even attempt a pass against our defense?

  130. Canadian Hawk says:

    They run.
    We know they’re going to run.

    And there’s nothing we can do.

    We need a DL game wrecker.

  131. Rokas says:

    I can’t watch this weak finesse shaite anymore

  132. Pran says:

    No name RBs running over Hawks D and our RBs sitting on roster for years can’t get a yard.

  133. AlaskaHawk says:

    Will they screw it up and pass?

  134. Big Mike says:

    Do the 40 niners run for 300 on Thursday?

  135. 206 says:

    Cody Bartons face looks so punchable

  136. Blitzy the Clown says:

    Quinton Jefferson is so Benson Mayowa

  137. Mr magic says:

    Geno has been a turnover machine. 7 turnovers in the last 4 games. Costing us wins!

    How is our run defense this putrid?

  138. ShowMeYourHawk says:

    Strap Hurtt to a garbage barge and sink it into the Sound.

  139. Henry Taylor says:

    Good lord, how can you be this bad at defending the run? Everything I see Carolina pass I breath a huge sigh of relief.

  140. Hawkster says:

    INside the 10, time to start throwing the ball

  141. MoBo says:

    Anyone got numbers how many missed tackles we have so far this season and where do we rank with it?

  142. Pran says:

    Offense hit the ceiling but defense can’t find the bottom yet. Let’s call it a season and listen to Pete’s usual pep talk.

  143. Rokas says:

    We don’t deserve playoffs, and we don’t deserve. Weakest run defense in the league. 0-3 against the weakest NFC South. No scheme in the world will let us win 1×1 or shedd a block. Unwatchable.

  144. Tallyhawk says:

    They ran the same fucking play the entire drive. How do you not sell out to stop the run. Make Darnold beat you. Fucking maddening!

  145. Blitzy the Clown says:

    Denver within a TD of KC and possession with a little over 5 mins remaining

  146. Peter says:

    Pro: high pick(s) next draft

    Con: either this same crappy staff is coaching or PC gets yet another toadie to carry his water and excuse away how he somehow has become a crap defensive coach.

  147. Blitzy the Clown says:

    He’s out of bounds

  148. 206 says:

    Alright “Geno gets lucky” – I’ll give you that one haha. His out routes today have been sketchy all day long

  149. Leo says:

    We’ll always have those epic 4 weeks where we had a competent defense, we looked like contenders for a hot second.

  150. Pran says:

    Geno could have had a dozen picks just in this game. Can’t the offense adjust?

    • pdway says:

      Today’s been his worst game of the year. Not sure why, seems like he’s been under more pressure in other weeks.

  151. Chris says:

    Why punt it? Our defense can’t stop the run

  152. ShowMeYourHawk says:

    Why the f*ck are we punting, down by 10 with 7 minutes to go? D going to suddenly step up?

  153. pdway says:

    we’re just not good enough. seemed like it for a few weeks there – but the defense sure returned to the mean. we’re a .500 type team – but we do have a gang of picks. it is what it is.

    • Peter says:

      If by “what it is” you mean yet another decent to good year of offensive production absolutely let down by a half decade of some of the worst defensive football in the league.

  154. downtownjewelrybryan says:

    please make this end.

  155. Blitzy the Clown says:

    Not a decent tackler among the Seahawks today. Not one

  156. BoiseSeahawk says:

    Jalen Carter

  157. Chris says:

    We’re not gonna win another game this year

  158. 206 says:

    This is a friggin joke. If we dont pull something out of our ass we are looking at 7-7

  159. Big Mike says:

    The only game we win the rest of this year is maybe the rams last game of the season

  160. Blitzy the Clown says:

    Cody Barton gets dragged for a first down

  161. 206 says:

    Brooks playing like shit. Damnit Im pissed

  162. ShowMeYourHawk says:

    This team left their pride in Munich. Been ass ever since, and they weren’t great to begin with.

  163. Blitzy the Clown says:

    LJ Collier is so much of a bust it gives me agita just thinking about it

  164. 206 says:

    By punting the ball we gave up on the game. Horrible coaching decision.

  165. pdway says:

    i’m just stunned that we are this bad against the run

    i mean – just stack the f-ing box if nothing else.

  166. Big Mike says:

    Good thing we punted though because we knew our defensive would step up and stop them and give the offense a chance to score

  167. Chris says:

    I hope for the 2nd year in a row we depart with a Seahawks icon

  168. Shane says:

    Broncos did their part and the Hawks are on their way… Looking forward to two high picks in the Draft

  169. Ashish says:

    Better we lose rest of the games for better draft order. This defense has way more flaws. Thursday sfo will score 50 points

  170. Blitzy the Clown says:

    On the plus side it looks like KC will go on to win. They’re in victory formation running out the clock


    Denver stay at 3 wins and the 3rd overall pick

  171. Pran says:

    I am so over with Pete if he does not fire Clint and get a proven DC from outside.

  172. Henry Taylor says:

    Well at least the Broncos lost

  173. ShowMeYourHawk says:

    I’m done. Everyone have a good week. If you avoid watching this defense give up 30+ to SF on Thursday, it’ll go a long way towards your mental health.

  174. 206 says:

    Bout to get wrecked on Thursday Night. Cant run the ball, cant stop the run. Nuff said

  175. Mr magic says:

    Home losses to Atlanta, Las Vegas and Carolina. We simply are not a good football team. San Fran will murder us next week.

    Geno has 7 turnovers in 4 weeks. Could easily have 10.

  176. Pran says:

    Clint whispering to Geno not to go 3 and out and put his defense on field again. It’s a special moment

  177. Matt says:

    Just 2 bad teams…that’swhat this is.

    • Peter says:

      Minus the time, me a terrible cynic actually believed the hawks might be something special this year.

      • pdway says:

        I know…that win streak messed w my expectation too.

        • Peter says:

          House money.

          High pick and a ticket to the dance? Hard to see a better outcome.

          Now I’m hoping Seattle misses out just for better picks all around….and not to be humiliated in the post season.

          • pdway says:

            you’re not wrong. but w geno rolling, walker looking like a new star, and the D being just a little better….seemed like we had something going. then the run game went away, and the D became an embarrassment. let’s re-load I guess.

  178. pdway says:

    offense got off to that crap start – Geno was uneven – and once again we couldn’t run the ball at all – but ultimately this one is on the defense to me. If you can’t stop the run, you just never win in the NFL.

    When you give up 200+ and the other team has 39 mins of possession – you will lose. Until you fix that, not that much else you do matters.

  179. cha says:

    They have done incredibly well this year, and yet at times because of the defense, we find ourselves needing just a tad bit more. A turnover here, a penalty there, or a lack of a consistent run game that we are used to can be the difference in a tough game like this. Their execution will need to be on point.


    The Panther offense is not as creative as the Rams’ is – not many can say they are – but they have a more direct approach to running. ‘This is what we’re going to do, and we’re going to move you out of our way.’ The defensive line needs better scheming and better play Sunday. Success in the running game plays right into the Panthers’ success: It eats the clock up, keeps Sam Darnold from having to carry more than he is capable of, the Panther pass rushers rested and the Seahawks’ explosive offensive players off the field.

    It is critical that the Seahawks’ front seven play better Sunday.

    Double pitiful

  180. Roy Batty says:

    I have zero confidence this team will win another game, aside from MAYBE the Rams game.

    That’s not a hot take, that’s a reality check when looking at the next 4 opponents.

    • pdway says:

      Niner, Chiefs, Jets, Rams – – you’re probably right. Niners and Chiefs are two of the top-5 teams in football, and the Jets seem more in sync than we are.

      This really was a crap loss today – esp if we cared about the playoffs. Our wins range is looking like 8-9, which is better than most of us expected this year – but a bummer when we were once 6-3.

  181. Schrub says:

    How many years does it take to field a competent Dline? To figure out how to stop the run? Enough with the Bruce Irvin type reclamation projects.

    • Rokas says:

      It’s not a reclamation project, Bruce does not need to prove anything at this point of his career.
      He plays because orher options are even worse. And that says a lot. If Mafe does not play more, it means he does not show enough. Ditto Taylor. Collier is self explanatory.

    • pdway says:

      yeah – when you look at the D-line – not a lot of blue chippers….old guys, lower round guys, and journeyman. Except Collier, our Dolly Parton of a 1st rounder. We’ve spent our draft capital elsewhere for years.

    • Pran says:

      Bruce is a coach on the field.. Pete’s way to make defense elite