Curtis Allen’s week twelve watchpoints (vs Raiders)

November 27th, 2022 | Written by Rob Staton

This is a guest article by Curtis Allen. After the game today tune into the instant reaction live stream which will be available on here and on our YouTube channel

The Seahawks come out of one of the latest bye weeks in the Pete Carroll era refreshed and mostly healthy, a half a game out of the division lead and with five of their final seven games at home. They are set up with the playoffs in sight about as well as a team can be. Can they start a run that elevates this unexpected season from being a mere feel-good story to a playoff team? We are about to find out.

Pete Carroll has a 7-5 record in the Seahawk era in games following a bye week. They will need a ‘taking care of business’ win against the Raiders, who are having an unexpected season of their own – just in the other direction.

On offense, they are adjusting to new coach Josh McDaniels’ offense but they have been absolutely hammered by injuries.

Top targets Darren Waller and Hunter Renfrow are on Injured Reserve. That is about 120-130 yards per game in the trainer’s room right there and Foster Moreau and Mack Hollis have not been able to fill those gaps adequately. Yet both Waller and Renfrow were more than pure numbers. They were players that pushed the offense forward down the field. First downs and explosive plays in the clutch were their calling card. It is no wonder they are having trouble this year.

On defense, it has been a disaster. Their pass rush other than Maxx Crosby has been awful. They are dead last in the NFL in sacks and bottom-ten in the other quarterback-effect stats (hurries, pressures and pressure %) despite blitzing a healthy 29% of the time. As a result, they are giving up a net of seven yards gained per pass attempt.

Their run defense is not much better. They have conceded 100 yards rushing in every loss this year except one – Week One against the Chargers, where the offense turned the ball over three times.

At 3-7, their playoff hopes are all but dashed at this point. There are eleven teams ahead of them in the AFC playoff seeding. They are not mathematically eliminated yet but it would take something historic to get them into the playoffs.

You know the drill. Playing a team in that shape in Week Twelve with very little on the line can be either a cakewalk or stepping into a big bear trap.

I prefer a cakewalk.

The Raiders have some top talent the Seahawks will have to contend with but precious little depth.

How do they minimize those key players and take advantage of a depleted roster?

Control the Game

This has been a regular issue I have been pounding the table on this season. So much good can be accomplished by establishing your tempo by running the ball, throwing for some quick strikes and building a lead. This is especially important in this game. Like I mentioned above, the Raiders are on the ropes. A quick start could lead to a relatively low-stress second half for the Seahawks.

The numbers statistically also support that strategy.

The Raiders are one of the worst first-quarter offenses (3.3 points per game) and the Seahawks are one of the best (6.4 ppg).

That number for Seattle is a bit misleading though. They scored 17 in the first quarter of the Chargers game and cruised to a victory in Week Seven. But in the next three games, they failed to score any points in the first quarter twice and only got a field goal in the other game.

They need to get back to coming out of the gate quickly. Pete Carroll and Shane Waldron seemed to play the first quarter against the Bucs in Munich very conservatively, seemingly sizing them up and adjusting to the field conditions. It cost them as their late comeback fell short.

Every Raiders statistic says that coming out and aggressively mixing the run and pass game is an effective strategy. Derek Carr’s numbers in clutch time so far this year have been absolutely horrible:

-He is throwing only a 59.78% completion rate on third downs
-His second-half completion percentage is 54.86% (down from 70% and 66% the last two years)
-That includes a putrid 50.89% in the fourth quarter

This despite Carr having the most time in the pocket (2.6 seconds) and low sack numbers (20) and pressure percentages (20.3%).

Turning up the heat and not letting the Raiders comfortably set up their offensive playbook is very important.

Why? Overall poor numbers matter little when you are tied in the fourth quarter or overtime and Carr has an absolute beast to throw to…

Keep Davante Adams from Wrecking the Game

With their other receivers badly banged up, Carr has looked for Adams a lot lately and their relationship on the field is really starting to bear fruit.

Adams is one of the NFL’s best wide receivers and lately he has been showing it. In his last three games he has averaged 9.5 catches for 136 yards and 1.5 touchdowns. Two of those games he was matched up with excellent corners Patrick Surtain and Stephen Gilmore at times.

He is a real weapon and the huge investment the Raiders made to acquire and extend him is really paying off. I feel forced to use the dreaded cliché ‘you can’t stop him, you can only hope to contain him.’

There are ways to limiting his effectiveness that have nothing to do with how you defend him.

First off, as I mentioned, a quick start is necessary. Why?

Adams has brought his savvy and game intelligence with him to Las Vegas. He is so good at selling routes that he can build a route tree to set defenders up for later in the game.

He did that on the overtime game-winner on Surtain. He had run the route to continue to the left side of the field two or three times earlier in the game and in overtime Surtain bit, thinking he had Adams bracketed with the safety. Adams broke the other way and left everyone in the dust:

He was able to make the play at a clutch time because he had opportunity earlier in the game to set up the move. Those opportunities come when the Raiders have the ball and have the time to run those plays and get Adams into the flow of the game and into defenders’ heads.

Just like when he was in Green Bay working with Rodgers, the Raiders spend the early part of the game with short passes, effectively establishing a pattern and feeling the defense out for these strikes later in the game.

What makes it so effective is the team as able to move the offense forward while establishing these setups. Adams has the short-area quickness and strong hands to take those 5–8-yard routes and turn them into first downs. He then has the speed and read-and-react ability to take advantage later in the game to catch defenders predicting where he will go and incorrectly jumping the route.

If the Seahawks can score on offense (and eating up some clock time while doing it would be a real added bonus) they can put pressure on the Raider offense and disrupt some of this route-building activity. It hinders an extremely effective schematic weapon and levels the playing field a little.

The other thing that can help the Seahawks is playing the percentages. In the last three games, Carr has targeted Adams 44 times. Josh Jacobs and Hollis have about 15-16 targets each in that span. Everyone else is in single digits.

Jacobs is coming out of the backfield. The point being, when Carr wants to throw downfield, he is looking for Adams.

Double cover him. Bracket him. Drop a linebacker or the strong safety and disrupt his crossing routes.

Adams deserves all the attention he will get from the defense. Nobody should line up for a play and not know where #17 is. This is where the defensive coaching staff may have to bend their principles a little. Having say Quandre Diggs covering a specific area where a less-effective wide receiver is running may be the schematically smart play but there may be times it would be wise to trust your corners to cover them one on one and have everyone else focus on Adams.

The only other Raider the Seahawks need to worry about may not even play on Sunday…

Keep Josh Jacobs in Check

At the moment, Jacobs is listed as questionable to play because of a hamstring injury.

If he is unable to go, it would be quite the opportunity for the Seahawks to capitalize and make the Raiders one-dimensional.

Jacobs IS the Raiders’ rushing attack this year. He has 930 yards rushing. Who is their next best rusher? Derek Carr with 67 yards rushing. Nobody else on their roster has as many as ten rushing attempts.

If he plays and is able to give it a full effort, the Seahawks will have a real challenge in keeping him in check. He is a treat to watch – when you are not defending him.

He is far and away the NFL’s king in yards after contact at 2.9 per carry (Chubb is second at 2.7). He may be the best runner of the football in traffic today. Jacobs is able to get skinny and slippery to take advantage of the smallest holes, push through arm tackles and keep plowing forward. Every time you think he is contained, whoops there he goes for four yards.

He has sixteen broken tackles, good for fifth in the NFL.

Tampa Bay showed some runs and looks that the Seahawks did not game plan for and when they needed to stop their run game, they could not. I think it is fair to say that the Raiders were watching.

If you want to keep control of this game and not allow Davante Adams into the end zone waving goodbye to the Seahawks fans at Lumen on Sunday, getting Jacobs to the ground as quickly as possible is mission critical.

Everyone Must Keep Maxx Crosby from Disrupting the Offense

Crosby is the lone shining star on a pretty rotten Raider defense. He has a sparkling 89.9 PFF rating and it is not hard to see why on the field.

Against the Raiders last week, he had: six tackles, four pressures, two sacks, three QB hits, a forced fumble and blocked a field goal try. Unreal. Davante Adams rightly got a lot of attention for a great game against Denver but I would contend Crosby’s day was better. He was a one-man wrecking crew against that sputtering Bronco offense.

He primarily lines up over the Right Tackle. Games like this are why we all celebrated when Abe Lucas slid to them in the third round of the draft this year. Lucas will have his work cut out for him.

Watch Crosby employ his signature spin move and do it so quickly the right guard cannot pick him up. He splits the two easily and takes Russell Wilson down:

Deadly. That spin move has twisted several tackles right into the ground.

It is not all on Lucas to keep him in check. Watch his second sack. Jayon Brown comes in to pick the right tackle and for some reason Melvin Gordon thinks a 300-lb right tackle needs help with a 227-lb linebacker and leaves a huge hole for Crosby to whiz right by him and take Wilson down again.

I am not saying this is why Gordon was later cut — but yikes.

This is similar to what I said about Adams. Right now, there is one player that can really hurt you and disrupt the game. If everyone is aware of it, you have a chance to keep his speed and power in check.

Lucas will take the point in the one on one.

The running backs will need to help when they are charged with pass protection.

Geno Smith will want to get the ball out quickly and have his head-timer functioning properly. He has delivered great numbers this year while being blitzed 32.9% of the time. The Seahawks need that kind of performance against a desperate team who may throw the kitchen sink at him. And when they do not, Crosby can win in base defense. Smith will need to be up to the task.

If they can keep these principles in mind, they can move the football as they like. The game will come swimmingly to them. If they cannot — and Crosby turns in another performance like he did last week — we will all be left to question how one of the NFL’s worst defenses was able to keep a team with all of the Seahawks’ offensive firepower down.

526 Responses to “Curtis Allen’s week twelve watchpoints (vs Raiders)”

  1. Peter says:

    Pretty intrigued by this game.

    Heading into the stretch to see if Seattle can put it all together at the same time and punch their ticket to the dance or is it going to be about half the games this season where one side works while the other doesn’t.

    For Waldron rightful praise this year I need to see if some dimension is stuck, faster processing to another form of attack.

    Regardless of who is running the rock are teams going to look at the bucs game and just try to run right at the defense?

    A game removed from a barely win against the equally cruddy broncos does Carr’s “clear eyes, full hearts,” histrionics matter? Or are the raiders who I thought they were at the beginning of the season? A team with a journeymen level qb who just hasn’t played anywhere else coupled with one of the worst headcoaches in the game?

  2. bmseattle says:

    Is Lucas even playing today?
    Crosby v. Curhan does not inspire confidence.

  3. Robbie says:

    Never in my life have I ever rooted for Carolina! Today is the day 🙂 Can you imagine if they beat the Broncos today!

  4. Big Mike says:

    It’s all in front of you Seahawks………….5 of the last 7 at home and 4 against poorer teams (Raiders, Rams X2 and Panthers). It begins today. Get it done.

    • Rob Staton says:

      This is a huge game

      After the bye, coming off a loss, a winnable game

      Need to get the job done today

    • Peter says:

      Not just get it done.

      I don’t need a 2012 style hammering. But show me something Seattle…after the bye I want to see a solid in control game against a miserable opponent where the outcome isn’t in doubt.

      I’ll enjoy a win but not really interested in “any given sunday,” narratives. The raiders this year are crap.

  5. Rob Staton says:

    The Panthers are so bad

    I think Mayfield possibly gives them a better chance to win too

  6. Dave Stacey says:

    Thanks for your write ups this week Curtis. Very good.
    Come on Panthers !

  7. jed says:

    Thanks for all the great reads this week cha!

    Belichick would scheme the heck out of a game like this against the Raiders. Three clear guys to shut down and you break the team.

  8. Blity the Clown says:

    A little off topic but Penix has another year of eligibility and he’s only 22.

    I hope he stays at UW. And I hope DeBoer gives him the room to develop.

    Oh and Carolina just scored the first points of the game 7-0 over Denver

    Go Panthers!

  9. Rob Staton says:

    The Panthers are going to blow this aren’t they

  10. Robbie says:

    They didn’t even let Russ try to throw….says A LOT!

  11. Blitzy the Clown says:

    Thanks cha I hope that even if Lucas plays (and especially if he doesn’t) they cover the RT with a TE to keep Crosby from wrecking drives

  12. Blitzy the Clown says:

    This Denver Carolina game is a clown car show

  13. Trevor says:

    My goodness Russ is so bad it is embarrassing. Almost feel bad for him. Wonder if the Broncos will be forced to sit him and perhaps start fresh next year. He just looks lost with zero confidence.

    • Peter says:


      Probably have to suck it up and get a new coach. Not blaming Hackett but an axe will probably fall.

      Not sure sitting him will do much.

      He’s certainly not raising anyone up. But that whole offense is a tire fire.

  14. Mick says:

    3 points in one half against Carolina, this is really awful from the Broncos.

  15. TomLPDX says:

    All these good games in the early slot and all I get is Bucs/Browns…geez. I won’t even bother watching it.

  16. Roy Batty says:

    I have a Raider Nation coworker at the game today. He flew in early and is flying out late.

    I want him to show up speechless and surly tomorrow morning.

    I will break my fast on his misery.

  17. cha says:

    Lucas is active


    Penny Hart
    Tony Jones Jr
    Jake Curhan
    Artie Burns
    Teez Tabor
    Myles Adams

  18. Romeo A57 says:

    Houston seems to have a lock on the first pick. Losing by 30 at the half in the NFL is well past embarrassing. That is full blown tank mode.

  19. Hunter says:

    It oooks like the Denver d has just quit trying, I don’t think they win another one this year

  20. David Ashton says:

    Loving the jam roly poly into the end zone. Truly the finest td i ever did see

  21. Mick says:

    In the meanwhile Denver has decided to switch to Pete-ball, as this worked best for Wilson.

  22. Hoggs41 says:

    Cmon Carolina, lets not mess this up.

  23. Ben says:

    Denver is so bad. They might give us the #2 pick at this rate, forget the #3.

  24. MarkinSeattle says:

    Russ has a history of injuries effecting his accuracy and play performance. I am wondering if his earlier injuries aren’t still affecting him, both physically and mentally. He also has a history of playing through injuries and not saying anything. If it is a bum shoulder, then he will continued to be impacted the rest of the year rather than just being out of sync with him receivers and eventually working through it.

    I do like Russ and I feel sorry for him, but I want him to continue to struggle this year to help our draft spots. He can return to form next year….

  25. Peppapig says:

    Broncos are imploding all over. Hard to watch.

  26. Rob Staton says:

    Even though the Seahawks are now going to be picking at least #4 overall after today, the situation doesn’t really change. Unless they get above Chicago and Vegas, they likely won’t get to the top two defensive players.

  27. Peppapig says:

    I can’t see Denver winning another game. Internal blow up incoming I think.

  28. cha says:

    DIGGS! What a catch!

  29. Blitzy the Clown says:

    Burger King is proving my hypothesis that if you sing the same word over and over again it will piss off a lot of people

    Shut up
    Shut up
    Shut up
    Shut up
    I don’t give a f*ck about it
    I don’t want your stupid ear worm
    Ruining my day

  30. Peppapig says:

    Russ don’t look right to me. I think the beatings he’s taken over the years have caught up to him.

  31. KD says:

    Go Walker! What a chad!

  32. AlaskaHawk says:

    What a great start on both offense and defense. Now don’t let up – show us some killer instinct.

  33. cha says:

    Did I just see Cody Barton run through a hole and tackle the ball carrier?

    Glory in the heights above.

  34. Bmseattle says:

    Terrible tackle effo4t by Brooks, there

  35. Denver Hawker says:

    And the Jags take the lead!

  36. Big Mike says:

    Backup QB? That makes me nervous.

  37. Bmseattle says:

    Diggs taketh away…and now giveth back.

  38. Big Mike says:

    Any kind of pressure there on that play does not turn out the way it did

  39. Pran says:

    Defense back to its ways… hot knife through butter.

  40. Denver Hawker says:

    Browns win in final minute of OT!

  41. Bmseattle says:

    I so want a center that doesnt get pushed backward every play

  42. AlaskaHawk says:

    What happened to the offensive line giving some pass protection? Krikey! They were coming in from multiple directions.

  43. Hawks4life says:

    Diggs woke up and decided to play football today

  44. Henry Taylor says:

    Diggs ending every Raiders drive one way or another.

  45. Big Mike says:

    A play by Barton again

  46. Mick says:

    Come on get a TD not a silly FG.

  47. Rob Staton says:

    Jags potentially winning is good for draft position

  48. Ukhawk says:

    Bunch of 3-7 teams win to close out their games and NOT the Broncos!!

  49. Rob Staton says:

    Geno was absolutely terrible on that drive

  50. Big Mike says:

    Shit decision Geno

  51. Blitzy the Clown says:

    Hey I’m as happy as anyone that Diggs showed up today. But let’s not pretend for one second this changes anything about his place on the team past the end of the season

    Poor pass choice by Geno

    • AlaskaHawk says:

      IS there a chance that Diggs has been playing injured and he is improving now?

    • 805Hawk says:

      Diggs has benefited from good D by Barton and a poorly thrown ball by Carr. I’ll give him credit for catching the INTs and being in the right place at the right time, though.

  52. Blitzy the Clown says:

    The proper call is to reverse the on field call.

    That’s not a catch

  53. AlaskaHawk says:

    I don’t think the Raiders maintained control of the football. But, they need to draw up another play. There is no margin of error when your on the back line.

    Also I don’t think it’s that bad a pass, neither one was catchable by the defense unless they were even better at high pointing than DK Metcalf.

  54. Henry Taylor says:

    That was obviously never coming off pre-snap. Safety was over there, just take the check down.

  55. Mick says:

    Yey Poona. D doesn’t look that bad today.

  56. Big Mike says:

    Hey Geno, quit trying to force the ball to DK.

  57. AlaskaHawk says:

    Love the way Poona Ford is playing. Feed the Big Dog!

    Also like the way Geno Smith is using tight ends. Disley may end up with most yardage today.

  58. Bmseattle says:

    Carr just hasn’t looked as good since he quit wearing eyeliner.

  59. Blitzy the Clown says:

    Beautiful toss to DK

  60. Blitzy the Clown says:

    DK is damn near as big as Fant

  61. Blitzy the Clown says:

    An awkward feeling in an awkward season where I’ve been able to simultaneously root for my team to win and still hope to get a higher draft pick…not today

  62. Bmseattle says:

    Lockett fell aftermakimg the catch..again.

    • Romeo A57 says:

      It is a smart business decision. Get the first down and save your head from getting knocked off. Wide Receivers are people too 🙂

    • TomLPDX says:

      Looked like a bang-bang play to me. What’s your point?

      • Bmseattle says:

        That it’s somewhat comical how consistently Lockett falls down immediately after catching the ball…even when noone is near to him.

  63. Glor says:

    Geno looking pretty good this drive

  64. Rob Staton says:

    How crap are the Chargers???

    Wonder if Payton ends up there

  65. TomLPDX says:

    Damn D, stop giving them yards

  66. Rob Staton says:

    Our defense badly needs an X-factor D-lineman

    • Trevor says:

      They need a linebacker who can cover and tackle as well. A leader who can get everyone organized and on the same page would not hurt either.

  67. Roy Batty says:

    What a busted coverage joke. No one saw the TE leaking? Horrible defensive stand.

  68. Rob Staton says:

    This defense has a crap play like that for a TD wayyyyy too often

  69. Mick says:

    They score so easily and we get field goals where we should be getting more points. Not looking great.

  70. Big Mike says:

    We are getting out played. We have not made them punt yet. 2 turnovers and we’re gonna be behind by a point

  71. Blitzy the Clown says:

    Enough already!

    Stop playing footsies with the gd Raiders!

  72. cha says:

    Not exactly sure why they decided to announce it during a game, but Seahawks throwbacks are confirmed for 2023.

    Looks like they’re telling us it’ll be the blue jersey/grey pants combo with silver helmets.

  73. Pran says:

    We are in for a long game. Offense is not capitalizing on opportunities and defense is just bad when Carr does not force throws.

  74. Big Mike says:

    If we blow such a fantastic chance at the playoffs it will be because of this defense

  75. AlaskaHawk says:

    Trick play – fool me once! The question is – how many more times can they run that play before the Seahawks defend it?

  76. Gaux Hawks says:

    I want to win this game… but there is some silver lining if LV gets another W.

  77. AlaskaHawk says:

    I said early on that the Seahawks need to show some killer instinct. It ain’t there yet.

  78. Roy Batty says:

    What a shit show.

  79. Blitzy the Clown says:

    WTF is that?

  80. seaspunj says:

    Seahawks need to regain their composure

    they need to win

  81. Henry Taylor says:

    This has been a very up and down game.

  82. ShowMeYourHawk says:

    Garbage. This defense is full of leftover mashed potatoes and suck.

  83. Glor says:

    Wow, really disappointed in locket on that one

  84. jack frost says:

    reversion to the mean?

  85. Blitzy the Clown says:

    I’m probably gonna post this more than once this afternoon

    Might help soothe some of the discomfort

  86. AlaskaHawk says:

    Not sure what to say. But if they don’t win this game it is going to break the Seahawks spirit.

  87. seaspunj says:

    Seahawks need to win the LOS battles … they can still grind out a hard fought game… gotta keep running the ball

  88. Pran says:

    Guess Hawks is out of luck, two bad games in a row. Back to drawing board.

  89. Trevor says:

    The majority of this upcoming draft needs to be on defense front 7 and safety.

  90. Rob Staton says:

    * Logs on to Tankathon to see what is needed to get two top-10 picks *

  91. Chris says:

    We really need impact dline and a good 3rd w.r

  92. 12th chuck says:

    what a shame

  93. 805Hawk says:

    So, is the defense the one in the middle of the season or the one from the first few games and the last two? Kinda feels like we are coming back down to reality.

  94. Romeo A57 says:

    My unpopular opinion is that this game is more indicative of what the Seahawks team is supposed to be. The 6 wins clouded that this is a rebuild.

    Defense can’t rush the QB and is weak at stopping the run

    QB making poor decisions and trying to force the ball into spots

    Offensive Line not opening running lanes

  95. Blitzy the Clown says:

    There you go. Get Walker the ball in space and let him do his thing

  96. DJ 1/2 way says:

    If the Seahawks end up with the third pick and get to (have to) choose between Jalen Carter, Will Levis and Richardson I think my head might explode. If Rob is right all three will not be there making this much easier.

    I guess the way Geno is playing today you might want to go quarterback. The last two games are too small of a sample size, but they will know by the end of the year. Lets go Geno!

    In the spirit of Joe Theismann, maybe Will Levis should get an endorsement ccontract with Levi Strauss and change the pronunciation to match the brand in plural!

  97. Rob Staton says:

    That’s better

    I see we’re watching the BIG-12 again this week

  98. Blitzy the Clown says:

    All he does is…

    Where’s V12?

  99. Chris says:

    And that drive is how geno gets paid

    • Matt says:

      We shall see…my concern with Geno is that despite having played very well; he could easily be sitting at 12+ INTs this year. He’s really had crazy luck on that front – and no, I’m not saying he hasn’t played well.

      The analogy I have for him is the power hitter who strikes out 150 times but has a season where they hit .300. I just have trouble betting on him repeating that.

      It’s such an interesting situation – unprecedented.

  100. Big Mike says:

    Subtly great route

    • AlaskaHawk says:

      Yes, I don’t mind if Lockett avoids contact. He’s the size of a smerf, just catch the ball and score touchdowns dude.

  101. Big Mike says:

    Could we maybe play some defense now?

  102. Big Mike says:

    What is a pass rush?

  103. Bmseattle says:

    Refs are really hands off this game

  104. Blitzy the Clown says:

    Jalen Carter runs down Carr there

    Just sayin

    • seaspunj says:

      who would you rather have

      QB Levis or Richardson or Welcome Back Jalen Carter

      • Blitzy the Clown says:

        The QB

        Not sure which. Depends on what you do with Geno.

        Seattle’s offense is pretty structured and well rostered at this point. Levis is mature enough to step into that scheme in his rookie season. If Geno moves on, Levis makes the most sense,

        Anderson needs a red shirt year. I would not recommend he start for any team. So if Geno is viable in Seattle for the next season or two, then Anderson becomes hard to pass up.

  105. Chris says:

    10 yd cushion on 3rd & 2

  106. 12th chuck says:

    secondary sure has regressed the last couple games

  107. Hawkster says:

    On most plays Carr throws the ball when he sees what he wants, not because of anything resembling pressure. Seems DBs need to play more off if they expect to be covering for the better part of a commercial break.

  108. Big Mike says:

    Don’t celebrate yet defense they’re gonna go for it

  109. Bmseattle says:

    Woolen cant contain there.

    Not good

  110. cha says:

    Irvin and Barton blown off the edge.

  111. ShowMeYourHawk says:

    My kingdom for a QB pressure.

  112. Blitzy the Clown says:

    Woolen couldn’t contain, not that it’s all on him

  113. Big Mike says:

    All we need is there is for one guy to beat a block but it didn’t happen

  114. Chris says:

    It’s hard to coach around a bad dline

  115. Ukhawk says:

    A better than average QB and a balanced but average offense is showing deficiencies in less than average Hawk defense.

    • Ukhawk says:

      A better than average QB and a balanced but average offense is showing deficiencies in a less than average Hawk defense.

  116. Pran says:

    It feels like Carr can jog around the field for full 60 min with that defense not laying a finger.

  117. 12th chuck says:

    the seahawks first and foremost, better get a pass rush this offseason. pathetic

  118. pdway says:

    D has really regressed these last couple games. Raiders able to do whatever they want when Carr isn’t throwing picks. Let’s see if the defensive coaches have the wherewithal to make halftime adjustments. He’s way too comfortable back there.

  119. Hawkster says:

    Part of the 2023 draft strategy. 49ers look like a buzz saw, so playing for a WC berth. With they may well afford an L vs LV to get them to 4 wins thinning the crowd around DEN at 3 a bit.

  120. Matthew Johnson says:

    I feel the percentage the Broncos hire a new OC that’s an old Seahawks OC to run their offense next year keeps climbing. Bevelle/Wilson reunion in Denver.

  121. AlaskaHawk says:

    I feel like i’m in the middle of a joke that starts with Carr saying “Hold my beer and watch this!”

  122. Bmseattle says:

    YAC for Lockett!!

  123. Bmseattle says:

    For the most part, Lucas holding up well vs Crosby

  124. pdway says:

    strong drive O. they’re holding up their end of things.

  125. Henry Taylor says:

    Great drive!

  126. Blitzy the Clown says:

    Inject that into my veins!

    K9 barking!

  127. Glor says:

    lol wow go hawks!

  128. GoHawks5151 says:

    I see you Big Abe!!!!!

  129. Big Mike says:

    Now can we PLEASE play some damned defense??!!

  130. Bmseattle says:

    Isnt it officially not allowed that your offensive linemen can push your RB for 6 yards into tje endzone?
    I mean…they always allow a bit of tjat, but that seemed…excessive.

  131. 12th chuck says:

    Wlaker needs some help. Anyone know what happened to Alex Collins?

  132. Seahawkwalt says:

    I’ll take credit for that … I put K9 jersey on at halftime

  133. Big Mike says:

    One sack
    No hurries
    In 22 dropbacks

  134. Romeo A57 says:

    The only thing that has stopped the Raiders from having six touchdowns already is the clock and 2 bad passes by Carr

  135. Bmseattle says:

    Diggs closes his eyes and whiffs

  136. cha says:

    Quandre? What was that?

  137. Chris says:

    No way we are a playoff team with this defense

  138. Bmseattle says:

    We are so finesse on defense.
    We need in influx of toughness

  139. KennyBadger says:

    Nice tackle Q. Nice tackle Barton.

  140. seaspunj says:

    this dee reminds me of the first few games of the season where Seahawks cant stop the run

  141. AlaskaHawk says:

    I really wouldn’t mind if they drafted two defensive ends, two linebackers and two safeties. Plus another big nose tackle. This defense needs help.

  142. Big Mike says:

    We only get to the playoffs by outscoring teams. This D has regressed right back to early season form

  143. Chris says:

    It might take 2 drafts to fix this defense

    • Tallyhawk says:

      No it just needs help on the DL. Give it a beast inside and someone who can wreak havoc outside we’re in business. Obviously there are people other needs but dl help makes this an above average D.

  144. pdway says:

    so frustrating….

    Caught a break when the Raiders decided not to go for it on 4th and 1 there, I would have gone for that 10 out of 10 times the way this game is going right now.

    Where is the playmaking from Nwosu or Neal, or anyone? Zero push from the D-line. Brooks the only player who seems to even be able to make a tackle.

  145. Romeo A57 says:

    If Rob was able to ask Pete a question after this game.

    “What can you tell us about the defensive execution after the Radiers game?”

    Pete ” I am in favor of it.”

  146. cha says:

    This next drive is critical. The offense needs to give the defense a little time to regroup.

  147. Blitzy the Clown says:

    What were the two high schools in that clip? I saw O’dea but not the other one

  148. Blitzy the Clown says:

    This is trending poorly

  149. Bmseattle says:

    Well…that was an inspiring “drive”.

  150. ShowMeYourHawk says:

    Run, run, pass, 4th down. Nice playcalls, Waldron….

  151. 12th chuck says:

    dont worry guys, the halftime adjustments for the d will kick in any minute…. just wait…. on the next drive maybe…its coming…

  152. Blitzy the Clown says:

    What an uninspiring set of plays to go three and out

    • AlaskaHawk says:

      They can’t throw to Metcalf behind the line because they are keying off Metcalf. Likewise in the end zone.

  153. Scot04 says:

    That was ultra conservative. Looked like 1st half vrs Tampa

  154. Chris says:

    A total give up call there

  155. pdway says:

    That play Perryman made on the 2nd down Walker run, where he shot a gap and tackled him in the backfield. We get none of that from our LB’s. Brooks is a solid player, but he’s not an in the backfield playmaker.

  156. Chris says:

    They could probably pull a drunk 260 liber outta the stands and he would play as good as some of our dline

  157. Big Mike says:

    Now would be a good time to force a 3 and out since they’re backed way up. A turnover would be even better. I’m not filled with confidence for either occurrence.

  158. Bmseattle says:

    Wow…that was easy

  159. Chris says:

    Way to telegraph the blitz

  160. Rob Staton says:

    This defense is embarrassing

    You’ve had two weeks!

  161. Big Mike says:

    Jacobs is already over 100 and I’m expecting he’ll break off a 40 yarder soon.

  162. Chris says:

    It took a miscue from the raiders to get off the field

  163. Blitzy the Clown says:

    Lucky stop but we’ll take it

  164. Roy Batty says:

    Why isn’t LV just running the ball. Seattle can’t stop it.

  165. Pran says:

    Is Raiders forcing Hawks to not play 3 safety look. Barton is a liability among D full of liabilities

  166. Big Mike says:

    Gift from their TE. Total gift.

  167. Hawkster says:

    At least alter the geometry of a pocket?

  168. pdway says:

    barely worth mentioning among this terrible defensive performance – but wtf happened to promising pass rusher Darrell Taylor? I mean, just absolutely invisible now.

  169. Blitzy the Clown says:

    Decent first down play

  170. Roy Batty says:

    Nice. Short, tight routes to put LV on their heels, then bomb one.

    And stop running it up the middle, for Christ sakes.

    How about a play action delayed screen up the middle to Walker?

    We need an explosive play for a big team uplift to start the 4th.

  171. Big Mike says:

    Geno had Parkinson wide open another 15 yds downfield from DK on that first down play. Too much focus on DK imo.

    • Bmseattle says:

      I thought it looked like he had deeper routes developing.
      I wonder why he didnt take it?

    • pdway says:

      i’m ok w all the short throws to DK – he’s a battering ram, feels like our version of a big RB in a way

  172. Bmseattle says:

    When was the last time we even attempted a go route to DK?
    I mean, 40+ yards?
    Is it that easy to juat erase that aspect of our offense?

  173. Roy Batty says:


  174. pdway says:

    let Geno cook!

  175. Bmseattle says:

    Blythe 😬

  176. Hawkster says:

    Goodwin always seems to show up in the 4th and make a tough catch for 20

  177. Chris says:

    Are we telegraphing our run plays?

  178. Big Mike says:

    No Ken, you can’t do that in the NFL

    Nice blocking

  179. Blitzy the Clown says:

    Wow that was a nice throw on the move by Geno

    Excellent touch

  180. Kyle R says:

    I don’t care what the scheme says. We need some more blu chippers on the interior line to really truly be the bullies again in the run game.

  181. Roy Batty says:

    And the shitshow re-emerges.

  182. Blitzy the Clown says:

    JFC I can’t…

  183. Henry Taylor says:

    I said earlier, this game has been all the way amazing or terrible

  184. ShowMeYourHawk says:

    THERE’S Geno reverting to Autumn Pumpkin status.

  185. Peppapig says:

    What the f@ck!

  186. Big Mike says:

    Not sure Walker knew the play

  187. Robbie says:

    OH for F sakes…..just hand it off Geno. Trying to pull it back to run

  188. Chris says:

    Our defense is bad ,but it’s real bad on sudden changes

  189. 12th chuck says:

    welcome to Pete ball, last 30 seconds decides the game

  190. Big Mike says:

    Boy could we use a D stop now.

  191. Chris says:

    Don’t hold your breath

  192. Roy Batty says:

    The way LV has been running the ball, they could bleed 9 minutes off the clock and get a TD to pretty much ice it.

  193. GoHawks5151 says:

    Walker got some things to work on. He passes up 3-4 yard gains for big plays to often. You can see Homer stick up in there and get what’s there. Hunting big plays instead of letting them come to him

  194. Hawkster says:

    the comparative position of first contact in the running game is atrocious

  195. Big Mike says:

    Can we not have a former Ram on the broadcast please?

  196. Blitzy the Clown says:

    Nothing like letting a 2nd and 10 become a 3 and 1

  197. pdway says:

    man, if the roles were reversed and the Hawks called a pitch play like that on 4th and inches w the way they’ve been running it up the gut all day….I’d be typing in ALL CAPS

  198. Henry Taylor says:


  199. Kyle R says:

    Stupid play call and huge stop D!!!

  200. Roy Batty says:

    Good god what is LV doing?

    That’s a gimme sneak, or use Jacobs, the guy who has been walking his way to first downs.

  201. Chris says:

    Huge stop!

  202. Peppapig says:


  203. Blitzy the Clown says:

    Great stop. Horrible call by the Raiders

    Should’ve sneaked Carr it up the gut

  204. Romeo A57 says:

    McDaniels got too cute. Big stop!

  205. Big Mike says:

    What an horrible play call. We’ll take it

  206. Robbie says:

    Good stop! Now do something with it!

  207. Matt says:

    That play call is a fireable offense.

    I literally cannot understand that.

  208. AlaskaHawk says:

    Hmm seems like some issues on both sides of the line.

    But thank you for the defensive stop.

  209. Roy Batty says:

    Please go back to quick routes. The Oline is not holding up for long routes at this point.

  210. Peppapig says:

    This is like a Kingdome game with Kreig and Co.

  211. Kenny Sloth says:

    Cody Barton quietly having a very good game. Hope he gets his flowers from fans

  212. AlaskaHawk says:

    Okay time to take over! Go Seahawks!

  213. Big Mike says:

    So is Walker sitting cuz he screwed up?

  214. Roy Batty says:

    Here’s the power of having a true 3rd WR.

  215. Blitzy the Clown says:

    Man this Raiders run d is all over us

  216. Hawks4life says:

    What a play call that was!!!

  217. Big Mike says:

    That’s a play Eskridge doesn’t make

  218. pdway says:

    let’s gooooooo!

  219. Roy Batty says:

    Tell me they aren’t re-signing Homer next year?

    The guy just produces.

  220. AlaskaHawk says:

    OMG HOmer for the touchdown! Yee hAW They have had a lot of success with that roll out and pass on the right side.

  221. Big Mike says:

    Fantastic playcall Shane!

  222. Blitzy the Clown says:

    Yes! Homer won’t be denied!

  223. pdway says:

    real nice play call there by Waldron too

  224. Hawkster says:

    that was a smart play

  225. Matt says:

    That playcall…my God.

    This is why I’m almost leaning on if Geno wants $30M; I might just go after Brissett. Waldron has been masterful with this stuff.

  226. cha says:

    Come on, Homer! Come on, Homer! Pretend this is baseball and hit us a homer!

  227. Blitzy the Clown says:

    That was a huge drive and score for us

  228. pdway says:

    OK, officially sick of Archuleta now…..

  229. Chris says:

    Geno deserves a contract with the hawks

  230. pdway says:

    come on, one more pick Carr…..

  231. Roy Batty says:

    Dear god what an effig catch!

  232. Roy Batty says:

    So Jackson is now reverting to Trey Flowers 15 yard cushopion.

  233. Hawkster says:

    Barton is not an effective blitzer

  234. Rob Staton says:

    This defense man

  235. cha says:

    Suggestion borne from frustration. Why not drop all eleven and try to confuse Carr? That might be more effective.

  236. Roy Batty says:

    If they win this challenge…just, wow!

  237. Blitzy the Clown says:

    That’s a fumble

  238. Chris says:

    That’s a fumble! We will get screwed though

  239. Big Mike says:

    in early season form

  240. Robbie says:


  241. Henry Taylor says:

    That was clearly a fumble

  242. pdway says:

    i mean, forward progress stopped w the way he’s been finishing runs today? Give me a break….

  243. seaspunj says:

    Seahawks got robbed of a fumble

  244. Big Mike says:

    SCREW YOU Staratore!!

  245. Roy Batty says:

    This has been a very entertaining game. In no way perfect, but in no way boring.

    Not one second.

  246. Chris says:

    Those calls always seem to go against us

    • Matt says:

      Bad day in general. We got gifted a first down on that 3rd down pass. Never ceases to amaze me how bad officiating can be.

  247. Roy Batty says:

    OK, Geno.

    You wanna be The Man? You want a big contract?

    Win it with this drive.

  248. Big Mike says:

    That TD is on SHIT officiating

  249. Blitzy the Clown says:


  250. pdway says:

    putting it all on our offense’s back. been that way the whole game today.

  251. Robbie says:

    Time for Geno to show us what he’s made of!

  252. cha says:

    “Without any pressure on the quarterback, that is not a good coverage to play.”

    The story of this game, Adam.

  253. Peppapig says:

    Diggs needs to take that money belt off.

  254. Chris says:

    Pete has a boner right now

  255. KD says:

    We’re going to OT against the damn Raiders, aren’t we?

  256. Blitzy the Clown says:

    C’mon Goodwin don’t be giving me cardiac iddues

  257. Big Mike says:

    Oh look a chance for another referee screwing

  258. Chris says:

    We will get screwed again

  259. Hawkster says:

    solid blitz beat

  260. Big Mike says:

    “DJ Metcalf” piss of Steratore. You’re a joke

  261. pdway says:

    he had his hands under that

  262. Big Mike says:

    The announcers have gotten the call from New York so they can tell us why we’re going to get screwed

  263. Roy Batty says:

    Great, Seattle has them on their heels and the refs take 10 minutes to cool them down.

    What a joke.

  264. Bmseattle says:

    Take tour tomw refs…gotta get this play right!🙄

  265. Chris says:

    They are trying hard to overturn this

  266. ShowMeYourHawk says:

    Why not just call it “forward progress,” asshats? Seemed pretty okay with not reviewing the Jacobs fumble.

  267. Robbie says:

    This is a flipping catch why is this taking so dang long

  268. Blitzy the Clown says:

    They screwed us

  269. Robbie says:

    Ok now I’m for real pissed!

  270. Roy Batty says:

    Lucas just shit the bed.

  271. Hawkster says:

    the bobble as he rolls over is gonna kills this one.

    • Matt says:

      Once they showed that angle – game over on that play. It was the right call, especially considering he was rolling OOB.

  272. Bmseattle says:


  273. Blitzy the Clown says:

    Crosby >> Lucas

  274. Chris says:

    Plenty of time for the raiders

  275. Kyle R says:

    Are we in the Super Bowl against the Steelers? First the bullshit fumble non call and then this stupid catch bullshit!

    • Big Mike says:

      Just another example of New York/the NFL steering results

      • GoHawksDani says:

        Did the refs denied the Hawks DL to rush the passer? Or the OL to runblock? Or K9 to hit the holes quick? Or Geno to play well in H1?
        This should’ve been a 24-14 game. Hawks sh.t the bed again and the refs have very little to do with it

  276. pdway says:

    i can’t believe they ran out the clock there…..

    OK, I guess

  277. Roy Batty says:

    LV can just rush the Hawks to death in OT, so the Hawks better win the toss.

  278. Blitzy the Clown says:

    OT at home

    Pete’s favorite scenario

  279. AlaskaHawk says:

    Hmm well this is deflating. Seahawks need to find some more energy!

  280. 12th chuck says:

    seahawks don’t deserve to win

  281. Chris says:

    Not ideal

  282. Blitzy the Clown says:

    I said before the game I hope they cover the RT with a TE in obvious passing situations to help out. There’s not really a RT who can handle Crosby 1v1 for an entire game.

    Wish they had done that

  283. Big Mike says:

    If we lose it’s on the NFL and it’s officials.

  284. Old but Slow says:

    Draft priority: QB, DT, DT, DT, LB.

  285. ShowMeYourHawk says:

    I’ve no confidence in the D’s ability to stop a slow death match up the field. An errant pass for an INT is our best bet.

  286. Bmseattle says:

    Even when we play decent run defense, they get 5 yards

  287. KD says:

    This would be a fine time for a Woolen pick6

  288. Blitzy the Clown says:

    Runner’s met at the LOS but the play goes for 5 yards.

    This is no way to play defense

  289. Big Mike says:

    OK 3rd and a stop…………must be time for a defensive holding penalty

  290. Chris says:

    All damn day to throw

  291. Bmseattle says:

    Taylor is crap.

  292. Big Mike says:


  293. Blitzy the Clown says:

    I’m bout to lose something over here

  294. Robbie says:

    Rushing 4 does not work, 3rd and 5 send another guy. UGH

  295. Chris says:

    Yeah but they send Barton which is worthless

  296. Blitzy the Clown says:

    Excellent play! Shelby Harris comes through

  297. Roy Batty says:

    Crap, Neal looks injured bad.

    Really hurting on the ground.

  298. Chris says:

    Great, our 2nd best defender is down

  299. ShowMeYourHawk says:

    Uh oh. Neal down. If he’s out for a while, the middle of the field is even more of a freeway.

  300. 206 says:

    Shelby got away with a hands to the face there, but I’ll take it!

  301. Roy Batty says:

    And the law of averages brings Carlson back down to Earth!

  302. Robbie says:


  303. Blitzy the Clown says:


  304. Chris says:

    Weird shit happens in this stadium

  305. Big Mike says:

    Now take advantage Hawks!

  306. AlaskaHawk says:

    Whoo Hoo, lucked out on the field goal fail. And getting great field position.

  307. pdway says:

    run blocking is depressing

  308. Roy Batty says:

    So, run it up the gut, huh?


  309. Matt says:

    McDaniels shouldn’t have a job at yet this. Some of the most appalling decisions and ply calls I’ve seen.

  310. Big Mike says:

    Can we get a 5 minute review on that please

  311. Chris says:

    We can’t move people on the line

  312. Roy Batty says:

    Lucas just getting owned by Crosby.

  313. pdway says:

    jesus, Crosby absolutely destroying us

  314. Chris says:

    Lucas getting owned

  315. ShowMeYourHawk says:

    Lucas ain’t it today, kids.

  316. pdway says:

    i would have thought hard about going for it on that 4th and 5

  317. Blitzy the Clown says:

    That’s right, don’t learn anything.

    Keep daring Crosby to beat your rookie RT


  318. Bmseattle says:

    Just refuse to help Lucas, i guess.

  319. Big Mike says:

    Abe has had a very bad day unfortunately

  320. Roy Batty says:

    Hahahahaha, what a way to lose…just unreal how badly this defense played.

  321. Blitzy the Clown says:

    Hey if we hold to a tie, that still puts Denver’s pick ahead of LV, right?

  322. 509 Chris says:

    I’m so tired of midfield punts. Punt Carroll strikes again.

  323. Hawks4life says:

    We didn’t lose because the refs we lost because our defense is garbage

  324. Peppapig says:

    That was embarrassing,

  325. Chris says:

    The worst possible way to lose

  326. Blitzy the Clown says:


    What a joke!

    • Roy Batty says:

      On a bright note, this team that wouldn’t stand a chance in the playoffs just moved up the draft board with a loss and LV win.

  327. TomLPDX says:

    Seahawks of old. They sucked today

  328. Pran says:

    OL shitting the bed to go with D

  329. seaspunj says:

    what a punch to the gut

    sadly the Seahawks shot themselves in the foot

  330. Romeo A57 says:

    The 4th Quarter and OT of this game are showing the offensive weaknesses of this team. We rail on about the defense being bad but don’t forget about the IOL needs an upgrade.

  331. ShowMeYourHawk says:

    Bye bye NFC West. Maybe Hurtt should gear up next week and sit his fat ass in the lane. Can’t be a worse option than whatever the current plan is.

  332. Big Mike says:

    This loss is courtesy of the National Football League

    Fuck you NFL

  333. KennyBadger says:

    Wtf man…

  334. Chris says:

    Goodbye playoffs

  335. AlaskaHawk says:

    I hate to say this but I feel like the Seahawks deserve it for the way the defense played. Yes a few good plays, but not enough to make up for being unable to rush the quarterback and Jacobs getting over 200 yards rushing. It just sucks.

  336. Feindt says:

    Finishing the Game in style

  337. Blitzy the Clown says:

    No stoutness inside on both sides of the LOS

    That’s what lost us this game

  338. Peppapig says:

    Defense first pick I’m guessing.

  339. Kaesotullius says:

    Second week in a row that the Dline has been handled

  340. dragonhawk says:

    Hope the Donkeys give us a top 5 pick to get us a pass rusher

  341. 509 Chris says:

    We’ve known linebacker is a weakness on this team for a while. Gotta fix this run D. I’m not sure what can be done mid-season though.

  342. GoHawksDani says:

    Omg, what an idiotic decision not to help Lucas…that could work for a screen maybe but nothing else.
    And punting on 4&5 with like 4,5min left is like rolling on their back and giving up. The way the LV rungame went and their OL blocked, best case scenario there is to finish with a tie with time running out.
    That run at the end is the sum of this whole game. “Cherry on top” that Neal might be injured bad who was one of the better D# players out there.

    I don’t see a division winner here for sure. And I also can’t see a playoff contender. And really hard to see even a Wild Card team. So I hope they’ll lose as much as they can alongside with the Broncos and we might have a #3-4-5 and #13-15 pick. Get Carter/Anderson and Kancey/Smith and get this defense to a better shape

  343. Kyle R says:

    We really need to focus on the trenches in the draft and off season if we want to be the bullies again and dictate terms in the game.

  344. Pran says:

    They had multiple opportunities to close the game and failed. Offense has not score in the last 2min of a game all season which tells all about Shane, Geno and Offense.