Duane Brown OUT vs the Cardinals

December 21st, 2019 | Written by Rob Staton

It’s quite incredible what’s happening at this late stage in the season. The Seahawks are dropping like flies. At this point, any kind of win against the 4-9-1 Cardinals will be an achievement.

And if key players aren’t able to return next week against the Niners — a bye week and playoff success will be mightily difficult.

For more on the injury/suspension crisis, read yesterday’s post.

249 Responses to “Duane Brown OUT vs the Cardinals”

  1. line_hawk says:

    Hope this is more precautionary. They should sit a lot more than guys vs Arizona. That’s a meaningless game in the big picture.

    • Rob Staton says:

      It is not a meaningless game.

      The bye week is an absolute must. Losing against Arizona might not prevent the Seahawks winning the NFC West but it could easily put them in the #3 spot.

      • Trevor says:

        Agree completely that bye week is critical given the injury issues this team has right now. Unfortunately it might not be realistic given how short handed they are.

        If they do give Pete coach of the year and Russ MVP.

        • Rob Staton says:

          It’s also critical for any chances of being a realistic threat in the playoffs.

          #3 seed = one home win, two road wins (probably) needed to make the SB

          #2 seed = one home win, one road win (probably) to make the SB

          #1 seed = two home wins to make the SB

          Forget 7-1 on the road. It doesn’t matter. In the playoffs, winning on the road is VERY hard. Look at PC’s and RW’s road playoff record compared to home record.

          If we’re happy with 11-12 wins and call it a good season, that’s fine. But now we’re two home games away from the #1 seed, you can’t help but want a little more. That doesn’t mean I expect a SB or anything. Giving ourselves the best shot to achieve that, however, is something that would be worthwhile. I’ll never forget the 2016 season when we blew the #2 seed by losing to the chuffing Cardinals at home. The difference between playing Atlanta at home or away in the playoffs with no bye week was MASSIVE that year. We never really talk about what a missed opportunity that was.

  2. charlietheunicorn says:

    Brown has been dealing with the injury since mid season. If he needs the rest or needs to time to get right, then they are doing the right thing. Seattle always takes care of their guys over potential playoff implications.

    Oddly enough, the OL has some depth… Fant, Pocic, Haynes, Jones and Roos should all be available. And from the limited snaps earlier in the season, each of these guys can provide a stable OL against the Cardinals… allowing RW to do what he does best.

    I also have this funny feeling, RW will show why he is worthy of the MVP in the next 2 weeks. Thank the gods we have that guy at QB, because otherwise all hope would be lost. When you are down multiple starters (7 or more) and get wins (no matter how you do it) is always impressive.

  3. Ashish says:

    This might be blessing in disguise. I would go with Pocic at center and give Hunt some rest to heal up. I’m sure we can win with backup might not be easy but we don’t have easy games do we.

  4. Frank says:

    I wonder what lessons the Hawks front office takes from this. The last couple years have definitely scene a concerted effort to establish depth, but often with aging veterans or people that where available only because they are above average injury risks. Certainly Penny, and Griffen are outliers in the prime of there careers as far as health goes, but the rest are either old or high risk or both. As much as it’s something we don’t like to talk about here, the offensive line has been really bad this year bye any team’s standers not named the Seahawks in the league. I really hope this is the wake up call they needed, and they attack the oline in the draft like they did receivers last year, and a throw in a decent RB. Luckily most pundits are in agreement it’s a strong draft for both positions of need.

    • Rob Staton says:

      1. No the O-line has not been ‘really bad by any team’s standards’. I wish people would stop talking rubbish about the OL.

      2. Shaquill Griffin, Mychal Kendricks, Quandre Diggs and Jadeveon Clowney are NOT old. Neither is Tyler Lockett or Will Dissly or Rashaad Penny. This has nothing to do with age.

      3. How do you propose they ‘attack the O-line’ in the draft? Is this finally going to be the year where that elusive franchise left tackle lasts until the late 20’s or early 30’s? People who think the draft is a cure-all solution are usually the same people who moan about James Carpenter and Germain Ifedi.

      • Frank says:

        I’ve never been against Ifedi or Carpenter and hope Ifedi returns. Simmons and Jones have both flashed potential, and is too early to write Haynes off. Brown is obviously getting older, but hopefully he can play another year or two and possibly mentor a developmental project. Even without advanced analytics, a casual observer that Wilson constantly faces pressure up the middle (the last place you want it from) faster that the opposing QB almost every week. I hope we have the same Tackles next year, but Iupati and Flucker need to go if we are planning on maximizing Wilson. Britt needs to be replaced likely, so realistically could need three new starters, even if Haynes, Simmons, Jones are going to start, they would need backups and PC likes competition.
        You attack the draft by throwing multiple picks at it during the draft. We’ll have three 2nd round picks, would it really be a waste if 2/3 of them where interior offensive lineman?
        Kendricks and Clowney are at least past their prime, Dissly is starting to fall into the higher risk category for injuries, Lockett is a short term injury that I wouldn’t worry about.
        You can’t replace the entire line in a year, but does anybody think Iupati, Flucker have more than a year left in them, or Brown more than 2-3? Might be better to act before all three retire at once.

        • cha says:

          Clowney are at least past their prime

          Good grief.

        • Rob Staton says:

          I just feel like I end up repeating myself on this.

          1. The line has nowhere near been the disaster you’re suggesting. Wilson has had a near MVP season. He hasn’t been running for his life every game. People easily forget how bad things were 2-3 years ago. This line has been decent. Not great but certainly decent. And the emphasis more than anything is on size and run blocking. That’s where Fluker and Iupati excel.

          2. They have consistently seen major improvements to the line by plugging in veterans. If you draft two rookies with the intention of starting them, then you will not enjoy the results. They’ve been training up Phil Haynes and Jamarco Jones anyway. They’re just as likely to start instead, if not more.

          3. Who are you even drafting? Who are these guards that are worth first or second round picks? It’s all well and good saying ‘draft O-line’. Who? Let’s have some names. Who are these starting caliber plug-in-and-play guards?

          4. Clowney is past his prime? He’s 26 Frank. Kendricks just turned 29. No, they are not past their prime.

          5. Even if they replace Iupati and Fluker it’ll more likely be with guys on the roster already or different veterans. They have clearly shifted philosophy and want a more experienced line. Sweezy, Iupati, Fluker.

          • Frank says:

            Wow, it seems like Clowney has been I the league forever to only be 26. 29 to me is getting old in a hurry zone on Kendricks, although not nearly the same zone as Fluker, Brown, or Iupati. I personally don’t think Jones or Hunt has the athleticism to make it for any period of time beyond emergency.
            Jedrick Willis, Natane Muti, Tyler Biadasz, Logan Stenburg could be possibilities. Maybe it’s just a sore subject, but it doesn’t seem unreasonable to consider it as a possibility. There’s some time to burn before the combine, I don’t see the harm in getting to know the offense line prospect, d line or even RB. Maybe it’s a great year for receivers, but so is every other year lately and we can’t field 53 wr on the team.

            • Rob Staton says:

              Willis is overrated and Biadasz a center. I’ve not watched the other two. But Willis and Biadasz don’t to me look in any way a solution to an overstated problem.

              Seattle simple has bigger needs than OL and that will remain the case until we see what they do with the pass rush and what happens with Ifedi & Fant.

  5. Paul Cook says:

    We need the offense to really get back into gear. I’d like to see the offense get out of the gate fast against the Cards, play with a little urgency on offense in the first half.

  6. Volume12 says:

    My 1st time seeing Liberty WR Antonio Gandy-Golden in live action. Very intriguing.

    • Volume12 says:

      Another small school wideout. Arkansas St WR Omar Bayless. Wanted to like him more than I did. Not bad by any means. Far from it. However, doesn’t look to be a great athlete and I didn’t see much to get excited about during the Georgia tape.

    • Trevor says:

      Looking forward to seeing him at Senior Bowl.

    • Eli says:

      Been meaning to bring him up, he’s a nice big bodied guy (6’4″ 220lbs) a la Josh Gordon. When watching him one thing that really stood out to me about him was – and maybe this isn’t the right word for it – suddenness. Seems like at times he’s able to just stop on a dime and let a defender blow past him.

  7. Bankhawk says:

    Current woes remind me just how against to the leagues proposal to add even a single game to the season going forward I am!

  8. Coleslaw says:

    Duane Brown is a huge loss.

    I’m still not worried. This season has been all Russ. Idk why people dont think we deserve to be here. We have Russell Wilson entering his real prime. Just like the Packers had Rodgers in his prime, Brees, Ben, Brady, Manning, etc.

    Russell Wilson is the reason we’re 11-3. Hes the reason we win close games. We live and die by Russ this year, just expect that. Anything the defense does is just a bonus. But always know Russ will keep us in the game.

    PS. Russ also clearly likes Schotty’s offense and is only finishing his 2nd year in it. I think with the expanded playbook for the playoffs and the next 2 weeks, we will be prepared for any team we face. It should be a fun ride!

    • Paul Cook says:

      I agree with you about RW being out team’s MVP by a long shot, and the reason why we won so many close games the first half of the season. But it was actually our defense that outplayed RW and the offense from the 49er game up until the Carolina game. Without Tyler Lockett and Dissley for targets, RW’s production and play-making fell back a bit.

  9. mishima says:

    IMO, need to win the next 2 to have any chance of a playoff run.

    Time for depth to step up and contribute.

  10. Canadian Hawk says:

    I know it’s early – but Rams have taken an early lead.

    This may have already been covered, but In the event:

    LA > SF
    Sea > Arizona

    and next week:

    SF > Sea

    Who wins the division?

      • Coleslaw says:

        Are you sure? I believe it would come down to strength of schedule where GB/WAS has a worse record than MIN/PHI. We should have that tiebreaker

        • Denver Hawker says:

          It comes down to strength of victory. To win that tie-breaker, ball has to bounce perfect. Need Minn to beat GB and Phil to beat Dallas. Then need NO to lose to Tennessee.

        • We have covered this a few times. It would come down to strength of victory. In this scenario all of our victories would be the same except three. New Orleans, Green Bay, and Washington for the 49ers and Philly, Minnesota, and Atlanta for the Seahawks. Right now here are the three records for each team.

          GB, NO, Was…25-17
          Phi, Minn, ATL…22-20

          So we are down three games. We need wins for our teams and losses for there teams.

          Remaining games.

          NO…@ Titans, Panthers
          GB…@ Minn, @ Lions
          Wash…Giants, @ Cowboys

          Phi…Cowboys, @ Giants
          Minn…GB, Bears
          ATL…Jaguars, @ Buccaneers

          If strength of victory is also tied it then goes to strength of schedule which we only have two different games. Green Bay and Washington for the 49ers and Minnesota and Philly for us. Right now here are those standings.

          GB and Wash…14-14
          Minn and Philly…17-11

          Right now we would win this tie breaker if it comes down to it. It would only make it to this tie breaker if strength of victory is also tied.

  11. cha says:


    //I need a shower

  12. Paul Cook says:

    I’m a Husky homer. I back my Huskies and Husky players. But Jacob Eason is just not near an NFL yet in spite of his arm talent. He absolutely needs another year at the college level, needs more reps, more experience, needs to prove he can win the big game, be clutch.

    Having said that, he’ll probably go pro and somebody will pick him.

  13. CHawk Talker Eric says:

    So that means Fant steps in at LT? Not the worst back up. Though it sucks losing him as a 6th OL in the running game.

  14. CHawk Talker Eric says:

    BOW DOWN to Washington!

    Congrats to Coach Petersen and the 2019 Washington Huskies!

    • Paul Cook says:

      Even though it was a minor bowl after a disappointing season, still great to see them send out Coach Pete in such a convincing manner.

  15. Rob Staton says:

    This isn’t the type of game I was hoping the Rams/Niners game would be.

    Airy-fairy passing game shoot-out. Very little physicality. Not exactly taxing on the Niners whatever the outcome.

  16. charlietheunicorn says:

    garbage rams

    (:58) (Shotgun) J.Garoppolo pass deep middle to E.Sanders to LA 23 for 46 yards (J.Ramsey).

    • Rob Staton says:

      Awful rookie mistake from Taylor Rapp.

      Not that it mattered this game really for us but it’s still frustrating simply for the momentum of going into next week.

      • Paul Cook says:

        Bad mistake by Rapp, but it wasn’t like Ramsey’s coverage was any good at all either. He’s supposed to be a stud corner.

      • charlietheunicorn says:

        I wonder what type of long term damage this season will do to the Rams. Lack of draft picks, limited cap space, GM/HC combo…. I just don’t see them as SB contenders, but they will remain dangerous.

        At least, Seattle still controls their destiny. Go 1-0 each week.

    • cha says:

      Rams deserve to lose if they can’t defend TWO 3rd and 16’s with their season on the line.

  17. Pran says:

    Pete is saving for game of the division vs 49ers and hoping Russ will see them thru vs Cards.

    • First of all that was a terrible play by Taylor rapp where the hell was he at .you are right about the fact it sure wasn’t physical Jimmy G getting sacked 6 times is pretty interesting . for some reason I am truly concerned about this cardinal game.chandler Jones could be very challenging. Sometimes I really wish the NFL would entertain the thought of expanding the roster one or two guys I mean on the active roster just a thought

  18. neil says:

    Well the 49er game is over. One can only hope the Hawks have a good game tomorrow. Even so, I am not optimistic about week 17. As I recall Emanual Sanders did not play in the first meeting. Our banged up backfield trying to cover Sanders, Kittle and Utech in the middle of the field might be too much too overcome.

  19. Pran says:

    Rams miss play offs.. Hawks back contending for division. Division is going to be even more tougher next season?

  20. Kelly says:

    With all the injuries and suspensions I would be surprised if we didn’t end the season with two straight losses and playoff loss at Dallas for the second year in a row.

  21. Sea Mode says:

    Enjoy the playoffs from the couch, NFL darling Rams! And they already are missing their R1 pick this year and next, Goff’s cap hit balloons from $10m to $30m next year, and they still have to pay Ramsey. Good luck…

    (On a side note, I only watched highlights, but Goff made several impressive throws on the move outside the pocket. Gotta give him that, at least.)

    Though, as Rob noted, it wasn’t a particularly taxing game for the 49ers physically, at least hopefully the Rams putting up points on them has given Schotty film of plenty of weaknesses for Russ to exploit. I think their secondary lacks a little speed, and Lockett and Metcalf most certainly do not…

    Go Hawks!

  22. Kingdome1976 says:

    That was a pretty good game last night. I simply hate the Rams so I reluctantly was kinda routing for the Niners. I still can’t believe the Niners are this good. I remember thinking they were probably going to be an 8-8 team or even less at the beginning of the year. Good job on the draft picks and free agency. Good coaching as well.

    I noticed that Goff did a bunch of bootlegs last night and for the most part it worked. Russ seems to sit in the pocket more than I like when playing the Rams. I hope we take notice.

    • AlaskaHawk says:

      I enjoyed the game also. One thing I noticed about both teams is their ability to run screens. Seemed like a steady diet of screens in the first half. Both teams looked pretty poor at defense that half.

      Second thing I noticed is how resilient and scrappy the 49ers are. Last week it was the catch and run by Kittle to end the game. This week it was two 16 yard third down conversions.

      The Seahawks need to bring their A game the next two weeks.

    • Coleslaw says:

      I’m honestly not that impressed anymore. I think they’re overrated. Definitely a playoff team but I think they’re a lot closer to Pretenders than Contenders. If we beat them they’ll be .500 in the 2nd half of the season. They almost lost to Arizona twice, the Rams, Steelers, Saints, and only put 9 points on the Skins.

      Their D is being exploited heavily. Their cracks are showing. Garoppollo is not elite. Kyle Shanahan is elite, Kittle is elite, Juscyk is elite. Nobody else on that offense scares me. Jimmy sucks under pressure. If you can stop the misdirection and get pressure on them they fold.


  23. Coleslaw says:

    Just realized the Cardinals were 1 hail mary away from making the super bowl and that wouldve made the NFC West the NFC champions 5 of the last 7 years.

    NFC West still has made the superbowl over 50% of the time in the last 7 years. Very good chance for it to happen again. Couldve been 6/8 years NFC West in the superbowl. That’s crazy..

  24. Volume12 says:

    Seeing quite a bit of jr’s returning to school. Think there’s gonna be a lot fewer than the past couple seasons.

    Add W. Forest’s Sage Surratt and Carlos Basham to that list

    Not sure why this TE class gets a bad rap. Is it because there’s not a headliner?

    • Volume12 says:

      * the jr’s

    • Sea Mode says:

      IMO, it’s not just the lack of headliners, but really overall talent just isn’t there this year at TE. Who knows, maybe one of the small school guys pops a bit at the Sr. Bowl, but even then I’m not sure I’ve seen anyone I would take before R3. (and yes, that includes Hunter Bryant for me)

      I think Purdue’s Brycen Hopkins is the best of the class, followed by Oregon’s Jake Breeland (though he’s an older prospect coming off of injury). Oregon St. Noah Togiai is an interesting day 3 guy to me just because of size and athletic potential.

      Still have a couple more names to look at, but up until now, there’s just nobody I like all that much.

      • Volume12 says:

        I actually think it’s super solid with a lot of different skill sets. Agreed about Hopkins.

        Just because there’s not talent at the top doesn’t mean its not good. The ’19 WR class was a classic example of this.

        Vandy’s Jared Pinkey is very good. Same with Michigan’s Sean McKeon and Portland St’s Charlie Taumoepeau. Saw that those last 2 made the SR bowl, decided to take a look, and like what I see quite a bit.

        IMO Late day 2 through Rd4 &5 are gonna be loaded with good TEs

        • Sea Mode says:

          Haha, those two exact guys you name at the end are the ones I added to my list to look into. As well as Central Michigan TE/QB Tony Poljan, whom Brugler rates highly. We’ll see.

          Pinkney (I knew someone would misspell it in that way at some point… 😜) is a big boy and did have good production in 2018, but his size limits his mobility and his blocking (I watched vs. Georgia 2019) seemed just ok to me, which is kind of what you are hoping to get with a bigger TE. (Speaking of big bubbas, have you looked at Octavious Cooley from Ole Miss?)

          Agree that there will be some guys late day 2 + day 3, but I do still think it’s a sub-par class. Hopkins is the only one who shows any real athleticism on tape to get me excited. And I have yet to find a good blocker outside of Breeland.

  25. Edgar says:

    I’m hoping this is just Pete knowing they can win this game even resting all nicked up players. Other top teams have zero guys on their injury report while we have 12-15. We’ll see what today brings, and then we can react accordingly right? Go Hawks.

    Here’s to Metcalf and Lockett both having multiple TDs and over 100 yards each-

  26. Volume12 says:

    *shocker* 9ers @ Hawks has been flexed to Sunday night next week.

  27. CaptainJack says:

    GO HAWKS!!!!

    Even though the chips are down let’s pull for our team!!!

  28. Volume12 says:

    Let’s go Titans!

    They got something in Tannehill. Has to be in the running for Comeback player of the year, yeah?

  29. Volume12 says:

    Stop comparing Lamar Jackson’s running ability to RG3. Not the same at all. He doesn’t even take the same type of hits and I’m not convinced he ever will.

  30. cha says:


    Clowney, Diggs, Shaquill, Ursua, Duane Brown, Haynes, Swoopes

    Sounds like Kendricks tested well in warmups

    Aaron Levine tweeted Jamarco starting at LT.

  31. Kenny Sloth says:

    CGJ just headshotted a Titans receiver, knocked clean out, then tapped him on the head when he stood up

  32. Sea Mode says:

    “He’s loose!”

    • Sea Mode says:

      We rollin’, boys. Either just super well-scripted by Schotty, or the Cards are pretty much done for the year.

  33. CHawk Talker Eric says:

    Helluva start today!

  34. Eli says:

    Seattle playing the long game and finally unleashing their secret weapon, Nick Bellore

  35. Volume12 says:

    Russ with 69 (nice) TD passes in December

  36. Trevor says:

    Great start I hope they can keep it rolling. Jemarco Jones is a legit NFL starter.

  37. CHawk Talker Eric says:

    Riddle me this: why would the NFL choose to broadcast the DAL-PHI game in Southern California instead of the NFCw matchup between ARI-SEA? Both games are out of market but at least there’s a sensible nexus for the Rams market with division rivals SEA and ARI.

    Well anyway it annoys me

  38. Trevor says:

    Wtf was that. Man Drake can fly. Great pickup by Arizona.

  39. CHawk Talker Eric says:

    WTF is that?!?!!

  40. Sea Mode says:

    Whelp, so much for that good start…

  41. CHawk Talker Eric says:

    Way too many fumbles on tackles. Second one of the game for SEA fortunately both were after the player was down by contact. But still. They need to clean that up

  42. Hawks4life says:

    Pound that ball its 1 yard pete…

  43. Sea Mode says:

    Giants over Redskins to OT and Washington wins the #2 pick I think.

  44. CHawk Talker Eric says:

    Yeah that 3rd down call…🤨

    • Volume12 says:

      That was a head scratcher. Run the ball! Carson is averaging almost 7 yds a carry so far and has been Seattle’s best player on either side of the ball the last 3 weeks or so.

    • Rob Staton says:

      Poor call. Just run it. Over-thinking it there.

      Also meant we would’ve avoided the melodramatic meltdown on Seahawks Twitter.

  45. Coleslaw says:

    Marquise Blair wouldnt have let Drake score… Why isnt he starting!?

  46. CHawk Talker Eric says:

    Great punt. Why wouldn’t you use Carson to grind out the first down? Even if he doesn’t make it at least it’s the right call.

  47. Paul Cook says:

    Yeah, a few curious calls there by the Hawks.

  48. CHawk Talker Eric says:

    Queem! Aaaaarrrrgggghhhhhhh!

  49. CHawk Talker Eric says:

    Whatever intensity they had to start is gone. The offense suddenly looks lethargic, predictable. What the hell is going on?

  50. CHawk Talker Eric says:

    If you let Drake get to the second level…man watch out

  51. CHawk Talker Eric says:

    They’ve completely abandoned the run game. Why? It’s a tie game early barely in the 2nd quarter

  52. CHawk Talker Eric says:

    Let’s keep calling these long developing pocket passing plays. That should work 🙄

  53. Hawks4life says:

    What a sloppy mess we are, its unbelievable how little composure this squad has at times.

  54. Paul Cook says:

    Just win the frigging game.

  55. Troy says:

    Brown being out is starting to really show itself with Jones

  56. Trevor says:

    Chandler Jones is still really good. Exactly the type of player the Hawks defense has lacked since Avril got injured.

  57. AlaskaHawk says:

    Carson looked good early. Thank goodness the Seahawks found him. I was thinking that Carson, Lockett and Metcalf, make up the bulk of this offensive production. If they can just get one more receiver or tight end to step up the offense could be really good. I have some hopes for Holllister and Dissley when he recovers.

    Anyway – I agree. Pound them with running plays and wear that defense down. The defensive line is just teeing off to get at Wilson. Three sacks already.

  58. Volume12 says:

    Was he supposed to cut that back?

  59. Hawks4life says:

    With the pressure the cards are getting on us they decide to call that play on 3rd down with procise running it… complete head scratcher

  60. CHawk Talker Eric says:

    Omg I’m about to lose it. Why on earth would you sub in Prosise for Carson? Inexplicable

  61. Paul Cook says:

    Okay. Some real questionable calls. Prosise running straight behind our weakened left side of the line on a third and one. Hmm…

  62. CHawk Talker Eric says:

    I know Murray is elusive but Kendricks blew that sack. Just came in totally out of position and out of control.

  63. Volume12 says:

    What a play

  64. Rik says:

    Fairly pathetic display of play calling on offense after that first drive. And I cannot even think of the right words to describe this weakened defense.

  65. Coleslaw says:

    I dont even care lol. Just win next week and we’re set.

  66. Hawks4life says:

    I’m surely going to miss Fitz whenever he does hang it up, one of the best to ever do it. Well deserved boos coming from the fans. Let’s see if the offense can play at a NFL level this drive.

  67. Rik says:

    This could get away from us pretty quickly. Even with their poor punting, they’ve been winning the field position battle. Time to get the ball out quickly and score points.

  68. Rik says:

    Russ just gave up a first down by running sideways into the defense???

  69. Sam says:

    We are a shell of our former selves.

  70. Volume12 says:

    Budda Baker is cracking dudes in the mouth!

  71. Rik says:

    I don’t think we’ve converted a single third down today. That’s tough for a team that plays like the Hawks.

  72. Paul Cook says:

    Injuries…yes. But, excepting the opening drive, an utter stinker of an offensive performance all the way around

  73. Paul Cook says:

    If Prosise is injured again, let’s just rename him “Glass”. I’m done with him. He just can’t stay healthy.

    • john_s says:

      I will never understand why they kept procise who they never were going to re-sign over Bo Scarborough who they would’ve had rights to for multiple years

  74. Kelly says:

    Hmm imagine that. A coach showing some guts.

  75. Paul Cook says:

    I kind of don;t get that TO by the Hawks there? Am I missing something?

  76. Volume12 says:

    That TO Seattle took when ‘Zona was out of them was flat out stupid. What. The. F**k?!?

  77. Sea Mode says:

    Incredible hands by Larry. I think that stands.

  78. Pran says:

    Great call Pete on that time out.

    I am officially mad and super pissed about this offense. Russ has regressed to a 2nd string QB. It’s one man Chris Carson show and May be Lockett.

    Defense is bad but the offense has consistently given up field position with pathetic play.

    • Hawks4life says:

      Can’t blame this offense on Russ… terrible protection for starters yes hes had a couple bad plays when he should have thrown it away but nothing drive changing. Lockett has been invisible. Definitely not 2nd string, stop that talk

      • Pran says:

        It’s not just this game for Russ, we have been seeing this past 4/5 weeks. He is #1 paid in the entire NFL, definitely would expect an elite QB play. Murray outplaying Russ.. Damn.

  79. Volume12 says:

    Im pretty sure Seattle hasn had like 1 play go for positive yardage in 6 drives.

    • Rik says:

      O line is getting their asses handed to them on every play.

      56 net passing yards for Russ in the first half. He’s not playing like a franchise QB today.

      • Kelly says:

        Gotta remember 3/5 of our O-line is backups atm. They know they can get pressure with four and we have a 4th string RB in the game. They are rushing four and playing downhill hard with the safeties. Buddha Baker is looking like a beast. Also doesn’t help that we have zero athleticism and speed on defense.

  80. Paul Cook says:

    Let’s be real. We look like one of the worst teams in football today.

  81. Volume12 says:

    I love PC and always will for what he’s built here, the players he’s found, his ability to tap into whatever it is inside of a player and unlock greatness. And I know this team is banged up and hurt, but his play calling during games leaves a LOT to be desired. Hamstrings his teams at times.

    • Paul Cook says:

      He could have used some help from analytics there. Hell, you didn’t even need analytics there. The risk/reward on that 4th and one was so clearly evident in the Hawks favor.

      We’re probably going to need some luck (turnovers and the like) to pull this one out. We might be too decimated to come back otherwise.

    • Volume12 says:

      IDK what it is.

      Coincidental, stubbornness, set in his ways, not panicing and just roll with what’s always worked, not enough speed defensively, not having quite enough yet offensively, but sometimes these young HC’s just appear to coach circles around him.

      • Kelly says:

        I can’t remember which game it was. But there was a 4th and short we didn’t convert and he’s been overly conservative and gun shy since.

    • CHawk Talker Eric says:

      The difference between him and Belichick is Bill doesn’t make in game mistakes like these. Otherwise, they’re of a caliber. Hard to argue Bill isn’t better — he’s certainly had more consistent success — but Pete’s his peer.

  82. CHawk Talker Eric says:

    I hope the start Fant at LT to start the second half. Jones has been getting smoked.

  83. Tony says:

    Let’s be real. This team is too decimated with injuries to go far. This was a flawed team that found ways to win. But can you really expect 3/5 of the OL to be backups, half your secondary out, your best DL, top 3 RBs out, down to your 4th TE. This team at some point cant over come injuries. At some point russ cant bail us out. And it’s totally understandable. Championship teams typically are also the least injured. This season it’s all ravens anyways. I see no one beating them.

  84. jopa726 says:

    Chis Carson has a hip injury and is out. C.J Prosise has a arm injury and is out. Hello darkness, my old friend.

  85. Hawks4life says:

    I’m just grateful we dont have to listen to Booger or Charles Davis today haha.

  86. Paul Cook says:

    I’m very close to emotionally packing this one in. You know, trying not to get bent out of shape. LOL

    • Pran says:

      Yep.. this team is one and done in play offs. Can’t even enjoy with this limping in to playoffs.

  87. Kelly says:

    Had about of enough of Moore.

  88. Sea Mode says:

    Just when you thought…

  89. Pran says:

    Moore means less. just like Kearse Russ targets him more for less. At least Kearse had some amazing plays.

  90. Paul Cook says:

    In the last 4-5 games or so, RW has been regressing into that pattern of holding onto the ball too long. He’s not quite the artful dodger as he was early in his career. He’s got to give his receivers a chance to make a play. Get it out Russ.

  91. Volume12 says:

    Seattle is so desperate for quick shots in the arm on punt/kick returns.

    Go get Jalen Reagor or Brandon Aiyuk

  92. Sea Mode says:

    And once again will we be bailed out by facing yet another backup QB…?

  93. Pran says:

    With out running game and a bad defense.. what to expect Sunday night?

  94. CHawk Talker Eric says:

    Nice to see Homer get done carries despite how he got the opportunity.

  95. Sea Mode says:

    We would rather face Philly than Dallas, right?

  96. Pran says:

    Why the hell they are not calling some designed run plays for Russ

    • neil says:

      It has been the thyme all year. Russ runs less !! Don’t know if that is a coaching decision or RW’s ego kicking in. Maybe he has to prove to himself and everyone else he can be a pocket passer. If that is the case, he has really hurt the team.

  97. AlaskaHawk says:

    I would hate to see Hundley lead the Cardinals to a win. Come on now!

  98. Sea Mode says:

    Man, Mone should have at least gotten the pancake in…

  99. Kelly says:

    Continuing the trend of making backup QBs look like all stars.

  100. Volume12 says:

    Rasheem Green with another huge play. Splash play specialist at this point. Man. If he can do this consistently? He can be special.

  101. Sea Mode says:

    They seriously have some tells on our OL or something. They know exactly where every run is going.

  102. Pran says:

    Great play by Green.
    Our offense is Homer.. such a sad state. Russ not even trying…

    • Sea Mode says:

      What can Russ do? He turns around out of his drop and there are 2 guys in his face every play.

      • Volume12 says:

        Soon as he plants that backfoot. Has he even had a semblance of a clean picket?

      • Hawks4life says:

        Yeah I’m not sure what more you want. The constant down talk of Russ isn’t warranted. We get it you feel he’s regressed to a 2nd string caliber player. How about we talk about the lousy play calling and execution today

      • Pran says:

        I am sorry to say take some pay cut and give it to get top dollar OL then.
        Seriously, OL is never our strength and it’s not like Cards have an elite DL that Russ can’t make plays.

  103. Henry Taylor says:

    When was our last first down? I genuinely dont remember.

  104. Volume12 says:

    Your down 13, put the ball in your playmakers hands. Carson or Penny in there? A little more understandable.

  105. Paul Cook says:

    Okay. Let me get this straight. You run your 4th string running back behind your 2nd string LT on that key 3rd down? WTF is going on here with our play-calling, or lack thereof?

  106. Volume12 says:

    That looks like a fumble to me

  107. Sea Mode says:


  108. Sea Mode says:

    Ugh, you have to know they’re going to Larry on a key 3rd down.

  109. CHawk Talker Eric says:

    Horrible call that will be reversed. How could the ref miss that?

  110. CaptainJack says:

    Injuries caught up to us.

    Tight end 1, running backs 1-3, three linemen out. Too much to overcome.

  111. CHawk Talker Eric says:

    Strong game from McDougald. Again

  112. Kenny Sloth says:

    Regardless of the outcome: Yikes

  113. CHawk Talker Eric says:

    Crucial clutch FG if they’re gonna have a chance

  114. Paul Cook says:

    Man, our passing game is just not clicking of late. At least we got three.

  115. Pran says:

    Our defense sucks even against backups.. god bless us in playoffs

  116. CHawk Talker Eric says:

    The tackling 🤦🏻‍♂️

  117. Paul Cook says:

    Ugh. We’re getting bled now. Tick, tick, tick…

  118. Neil says:

    Try as they may, the 12s cannot will the Hawks to a win anymore. Looks like the home field advantage is gone forever. I feel compelled to say again, I hope RWs reluctance to run this year is not a personal decision. I hope he is not just trying to prove to himself and everyone else that he not just a running QB, but a pocket passer as well.

  119. Matt says:

    This team is getting murdered in their first playoff game. Don’t care about injuries, this is an embarrassment. This team wins inspire of its coaches. What an awful game plan, everywhere, today.

  120. Paul Cook says:

    Our defense is spent now. Horrible display of tackling that last drive. Oh well. The hounds were bound to catch up to us.

  121. Volume12 says:

    I liked Pete’s answer at the half about the offense.

    ‘This just doesn’t look like us.’ How bout on D coach?

  122. Pran says:

    Hundleys revenge game is it.. I am not sure how would Russ, Bobby and rest of the crew can sleep tonight. I

  123. CHawk Talker Eric says:

    They should’ve moved Fant to LT

  124. Tony says:

    What a let down. I thought the rams game would wake them up. Guess this is what they are. They are trending down. A loss to 9ers looks very real. Im actually thinking no home field is better. Rather us not lose at home.

  125. CHawk Talker Eric says:

    That’s PI on Baker

  126. Paul Cook says:

    Unfortunately, we’re really starting to limp towards the playoffs. God I hope we get a bunch of our players back. The Cardinals smoked us today. But there’s a lot of warranted criticisms all the way around on the Hawks side, injuries and all.

    • Pran says:

      D is aging.. with history of bad drafts and process of bringing rookies slowly(2-3years) and relying on vets from outside, it feels like takes more than 1 good draft. Who are our future foundation pieces on D?

  127. Sea Mode says:

    Well, hopefully kick in the pants and with everything on the line means we actually show up for next week’s game.

  128. Sean says:

    We need to fire Ivan Lewis, he is a horrible strength and conditioning coach. I follow USC football very closely, folks over there couldn’t wait to get rid of him because of the amazing amount of injuries USC indured. Also before USC, Washington fans had the same concerns when he was the strength and conditionig coach there. I was shocked when I found out Pete went for Ivan Lewis and I feared this exact situation. If we don’t get rid of him I fear the same thing will happen next year.

  129. Volume12 says:

    That was one of the worst efforts from an O-line I’ve maybe ever seen. Soft as a peach.

    Injuries are a part of the game.

  130. Kelly says:

    Regardless of the injuries the coaches and players should be embarrassed for the piss poor preparation, execution, and effort today. Absolutely pathetic.

  131. Nate says:

    It’s games like these that make me wonder how in the world this team managed to win even 8 games this season, let alone 11. If I was a NFC playoff team right now, I’d be praying for the Seahawks to get a top 2 seed. Easy walk-in to the conference championship with the way we’re playing.

  132. Tony says:

    Fully expecting an easy 9er win next week. This team looks toast right now. Possibly because of overwhelming amount of injuries. But definitely a team playing subpar football. Between the rams and cards game, and the 2nd half of Panthers, this team just looks bad. Russ looks off. Playcalling has been very questionable. Just a lackluster ending to the season. Hope they get 1 win in playoffs, but no matter what this team isnt going far.

    Back to draft talk. Season is almost done.

  133. neil says:

    A gritty, gutsy win by the Eagles today.

  134. neil says:

    With this loss at home against a supposedly inferior opponent, gave a 1 or 2 seed and a bye away. Really a uninspired performance out there today. NO emotion no fire. That has to be put on the coaches. Never been a big fan of PCs coaching style. People say ” you can’t argue with his record ” but I contend its more a case of him having very talented players than his coaching style. Players like Thomas, Sherman and Baldwin were very vocal and held their teammates to a higher standard. In essence did PCs job in that area.