I’ll be updating this piece with thoughts on every pick as they come in. After the first round I’ll write a review and be making two podcast appearances (will post audio).
#1 Cleveland Browns — Baker Mayfield (QB, Oklahoma)
This had been reported all day. In terms of pure performance on the field, Mayfield topped Darnold, Allen, Rosen and the rest. He was the Heisman winner, led Oklahoma in the incredible Rose Bowl against Georgia and won on the road at Ohio State. He’s a winner with a winners attitude. Character problems? Overstated. Now the Browns need to find a left tackle to protect him. Go get the #18 pick…
#2 New York Giants — Saquon Barkley (RB, Penn State)
The best player in the draft. Forget all the nonsense about running back value. This guy is a superstar in the making and a future face of the NFL. Now the Giants have Saquon, Odell and Evan Engram for a generation. That’s an explosive offense trio worth paying a ticket to watch. There will be loads of handwringing about not taking a quarterback. Big deal. Football doesn’t have to be over analysed to the Nth degree. The Giants can win games with Eli Manning, Nate Solder and this trio of playmakers.
#3 New York Jets — Sam Darnold (QB, USC)
The Jets traded up knowing they would get one of the top quarterbacks. Some criticised the trade but look what happened. They ended up with the player many saw as the best QB in the draft and it didn’t even cost them a future first rounder. It was a great move by the Jets and this is a fantastic opportunity to get the franchise back on track. There’s plenty of Carson Palmer to his game but he’s a better improviser.
#4 Cleveland Browns — Denzel Ward (CB, Ohio State)
It’s not a shock that Cleveland took Denzel Ward. It’s just a shock they took him at number four. I posted a fresh mock earlier when it became clear Mayfield would be the top pick. I had the Browns trading down to #12 and taking Ward. Clearly they needed a corner and they just addressed that need right here. They passed on Bradley Chubb which is interesting. If the Browns trade up to #18 later I think the Cleveland fans in Dallas might start a riot. They’re not happy.
#5 Denver Broncos — Bradley Chubb (DE, NC State)
The Broncos saw an opportunity and took it. Von Miller + Bradley Chubb is a mean duo working the edge. Vance Joseph looked a bit out of his depth as a Head Coach last season and we’ll see if Case Keenum is good enough to give this team a jolt. They need a lot more to add to the roster. The Broncos are another trade-up candidate. Chubb could’ve been a top-10 pick a year ago. Terrific player, athlete and character.
#6 Indianapolis Colts — Quenton Nelson (G, Notre Dame)
The second best player in the draft after Saquon Barkley. The Colts need to build around Andrew Luck. They wasted his healthy years and now it’s time to get things right. Nelson could be a Pro-Bowler in year one. He has some Steve Hutchinson to his game. He’s big, physical, nasty and focused. He had a TEF score of 3.07 so he’s an explosive blocker too. He’s a top-10 pick in most drafts.
#7 Buffalo Bills (via Tampa Bay) — Josh Allen (QB, Wyoming)
The Bills, as expected, trade up for a quarterback. Adam Schefter says Denver and Buffalo had a trade agreed for #5 but Denver reneged when Bradley Chubb fell to #5. The Bills might end up getting a better deal as a consequence after waiting two more picks. Allen has everything physically. The question marks surround his performance in college which was poor albeit on a lousy team. He looked superb at the Senior Bowl. The Bills gave up #53 and #56 to move up. It’s a good deal for Tampa Bay and Buffalo gets to keep #22 and their 2019 first round pick.
#8 Chicago Bears — Roquan Smith (LB, Georgia)
It’s a fit because Vic Fangio does well clogging up the middle and keeping his linebackers clean. If Roquan Smith can run to the ball and play read-and-react, he’s exceptional. He’s a no-nonsense player with flash ability. The problem is if teams can get their O-liners to the second level. He struggles shedding blocks and it was apparent against Oklahoma in the Rose Bowl. Keep him clean, he’s money. If you don’t, he can be a liability.
#9 San Francisco 49ers — Mike McGlinchey (T, Notre Dame)
My initial reaction to this pick was surprise. Then after a moment, I got it. They have an ageing left tackle in Joe Staley. They just gave a fortune to Jimmy Garoppolo. He is their future. And the NFL is suffering with an offensive tackle problem. The good ones go early. The Niners probably don’t plan on picking this early again any time soon. It’s not an exciting pick but it could be a good one. McGlinchey is solid if unspectacular and a big time character guy. This won’t help Seattle if Kolton Miller leaves the board before #18.
#10 Arizona Cardinals (via Oakland) — Josh Rosen (QB, UCLA)
The Cardinals trade up for a quarterback. I mocked the Raiders to take Mike McGlinchey last night. The Niners pick possibly inspired this move. I also had Miami taking Josh Rosen. So this was possibly a perfect storm with the Cardinals wanting to jump ahead of Miami and the Raiders preferring to move down when McGlinchey was taken. Rosen is the more natural passer in this QB class. He dropped due to injury and character concerns. The Cardinals only had to give up a third and fifth round pick to move up. Whatever you think about Rosen, it’s a great deal for Arizona to go and get a quarterback.
#11 Miami Dolphins — Minkah Fitzpatrick (S, Alabama)
He’s always been a bit overrated. Solid but not exciting. A decent athlete but nothing special. He’s not a rangy free safety or a natural corner. Malik Hooker was better a year ago and I think Keanu Neal and Ha Ha Clinton-Dix were better too. He’ll be a solid, safe option for Miami. Good guy but not a big vocal leader. It’ll be interesting to see how Miami uses him. Tremaine Edmunds and Vita Vea have bigger upside in my opinion. It’s a surprise that Edmunds is still on the board.
#12 Tampa Bay Buccaneers (via Buffalo) — Vita Vea (DT, WashingtoN)
Congratulations to the Buccs. They are the big winners of the top-12 picks. They traded down five spots, collected two extremely valuable second round picks and still got Vita Vea. Imagine Gerald McCoy next to Vea with Jason Pierre-Paul working the edge. Fantastic pick, fantastic trade down. Kudos to the Buccs. Vea is rare air. He could be another Haloti Ngata. In my mock I had Tampa Bay trading down for Vea.
#13 Washington Redskins — Da’Ron Payne (DT, Alabama)
The Redskins needed a defensive lineman. They likely had their heart set on Vita Vea. Payne looked really good in the college football playoffs and every bit a top-15 pick against Georgia. He’s more explosive than some of Alabama’s other recent early rounder D-liners. However, he only had ONE single tackle for a loss in 2017. That’s pretty striking on a team like Alabama that dominates up front every week.
#14 New Orleans Saints (via Green Bay) — Marcus Davenport (DE, UTSA)
Huge shocker. Not that Marcus Davenport went at #15. He’s a tremendous pass rusher. It’s that this is the move the Saints made after moving up. He is so raw and might not be an impact rusher. And New Orleans spent two first round picks to get him. It’s a risky move. I thought they were going to take Lamar Jackson and plan for life after Drew Brees. The Saints traded their 2019 first round pick and a fifth rounder this year to go from #27 to #15.
#15 Oakland Raiders (via Arizona) — Kolton Miller (T, UCLA)
That could possibly be the end of Seattle’s shot to trade down with the Browns. The Raiders traded down when Mike McGlinchey was taken by San Francisco and they simply moved onto the next best tackle. The Niners, by taking McGlinchey, possibly killed Seattle’s best trade offer. Fingers crossed Denver or someone else wants to trade up for Lamar Jackson. Kolton Miller is highly athletic and he’s enormous. You’re taking potential here.
#16 Buffalo Bills (via Baltimore) — Tremaine Edmunds (LB, Virginia Tech)
Buffalo gave up a third rounder to move from #22 to #16. The Bills also received a fifth rounder in the deal. This is the second time Buffalo traded up in the first round and it’s a great move. Tremaine Edmunds is a spectacular player with major potential. There just isn’t anyone like him in the league. That’s possibly why he dropped. Teams like what they know. Buffalo gets a top-10 talent at #16. He does hesitate sometimes off the snap and has a false step. It’s his only flaw. He’s long, athletic and physical.
#17 Los Angeles Chargers — Derwin James (S, Florida State)
Derwin James has always been a bit overrated. He’s an alpha, he’s athletic and he’s physical. There’s no question marks there. The thing is, he just doesn’t make that many plays. You watch the tape and he makes a tackle at the second level. Great. You want to see more. He struggles in space and had a horrible snap against Antonio Callaway in the slot. He’s a box safety. A good one. But he is what he is.
#18 Green Bay Packers (via Seattle) — Jaire Alexander (CB, Louisville)
An old friend leaps in to save the day. The Seahawks saw a potentially lucrative deal with the Cleveland Browns go up in smoke when Mike McGlinchey and Kolton Miller were snatched off the board. Now they move down nine spots and get a third and a sixth in return. They now own the #27 pick, originally belonging to New Orleans. It shows how determined they were to move down. This isn’t exactly a ‘haul’. However, according to this trade value chart it was a fair deal. You can make a case for Alexander being better than Denzel Ward. He’s competitive and talented.
#19 Dallas Cowboys — Leighton Vander Esch (LB, Boise State)
This is a fantastic get for the Cowboys. Linebacker was a big need. I noted in this piece in early March just how good Vander Esch is. Physically he’s very similar to Luke Kuechly. He flies to the ball, plays with range and intensity. He’s everything you want in a linebacker. He can play outside early and move inside when Sean Lee misses his handful of games (as he does every year). Terrific pick for the Dallas Cowboys.
Player trade — the Oakland Raiders have traded a third round pick to Pittsburgh for Martavis Bryant
#20 Detroit Lions — Frank Ragnow (C, Arkansas)
The Lions had a big need at center so this makes sense. He’s been underrated throughout the whole process. He’s been in every top-50 list we’ve had dating all the way back to the college season. He’s a brilliant, physical blocker and a tone-setter. The Lions will not regret this pick and they have a blossoming, tough O-line to work with. The Bengals are probably cursing at pick #21.
#21 Cincinnati Bengals — Billy Price (C, Ohio State)
Speaking of underrated players, come on down Billy Price. Like Ragnow he’s all attitude. At times he gets carried away trying to be too aggressive. That’s a minor issue considering the toughness, dedication and athleticism he’s going to provide at center. He’s a terrific player and the Bengals solved a big problem at a major position of need. They would’ve likely taken Ragnow but Price is a nice consolation prize.
#22 Tennessee Titans (via Baltimore, Buffalo) — Rashaan Evans (LB, Alabama)
The Titans trade up to keep Rashaan Evans away from the New England Patriots. This is the pick Baltimore collected after trading down with Buffalo. Evans is an alpha and plays every game with his hair on fire. He isn’t the most athletic or explosive player but he just gets after it. Derrius Guice suggested in pre-season Alabama were ‘scared’ of LSU’s running game. Evans took it upon himself to hammer Guice every time he touched the ball. It was an ass-kicking.
#23 New England Patriots — Isaiah Wynn (G, Georgia)
The New England Patriots do it again. Isaiah Wynn is one of the 15 best players in the draft. He does everything well. He was the best left tackle in college football in 2017 along with Austin Corbett. The Pats could try him at left tackle even though many project him inside. This is a fantastic get for the Pats.
#24 Carolina Panthers — D.J. Moore (WR, Maryland)
The first receiver off the board is D.J. Moore. He’s an incredible athlete. He’s built like a running back with a thick, muscular lower body. He can get downfield and he’s a YAC master. That said, Wisconsin cornerback Nick Nelson absolutely shut him down and held him without a catch.
#25 Baltimore Ravens (via Tennessee) — Hayden Hurst (TE, South Carolina)
There was plenty of talk about Baltimore wanting a tight end. The Ravens were linked with Da’Ron Payne too. When the Redskins took Payne, it’s possible they moved on to Plan B. Hayden Hurst turns 25 in August. He’s old for a rookie. They have to believe they can still get seven years out of him. They’ve been looking for a tight end solution for a long time. He plays with an AFC North attitude.
#26 Atlanta Falcons — Calvin Ridley (WR, Alabama)
Calvin Ridley isn’t great in any way in terms of body shape or speed. He’s small, not exactly lightning quick and his interviews are a bit unnecessarily testy sometimes. That said, he’s a nice compliment to the bigger receivers they already have. It’s a value pick if you like Ridley. Otherwise, you have to wonder if they really addressed a key need here. This type of player wasn’t the difference for Atlanta last season.
#27 Seattle Seahawks — Rashaad Penny (RB, San Diego State)
Huge shock. The Seahawks said fixing the run was their priority. They meant it. They’ve taken a running back in the first round — but it wasn’t the one many expected. It’s not Nick Chubb. It’s not Kerryon Johnson. It’s not Ronald Jones II or Derrius Guice. It’s not Austin Corbett or Isaiah Oliver. They did what they said they were going to do. Fix the run. He’s a size fit (5-11, 220lbs) and his explosive testing (10-0 broad, 32.5 inch vertical) was in their ballpark too. It’s a pick that will drive Seahawks twitter crazy and for that, we can all be grateful I suppose. Here’s what Bob McGinn’s sources said about Penny:
Played second fiddle to prolific Donnel Pumphrey for three seasons before exploding for 2,248 yards as a senior. “That little kid there last year (Pumphrey) ran for a billion yards and now he’s run for a bunch,” said one scout. “That system there is tremendous. Good size and straight-line burst. I don’t think he has good feel or a lot of niftiness.” Impressed in the Senior Bowl. Tremendous kickoff returner. “Runs primarily out of an I backfield but when he runs the spread option he’s got feet, got acceleration,” a second scout said. “Great hands. Makes guys miss. Got great contact balance.” Finished with 487 carries for 3,643 yards (7.5) and 38 TDs along with 42 receptions for 479 yards. “He runs high,” a third scout said. “I don’t like his pad level. He’s strong and he’s very fast.” From Norwalk, Calif.
The Seahawks are committing to their running game. That is their statement tonight.
#28 Pittsburgh Steelers — Terrell Edmunds (S, Virginia Tech)
Kudos to Jason La Canfora who was reporting consistently that Edmunds would go in the first round. He’s an even quicker, more explosive version of his brother playing safety. He could be a linebacker/safety hybrid. He’s a leader and a tremendous athlete. There are things he needs to work on too.
#29 Jacksonville Jaguars — Taven Bryan (DT, Florida)
Jacksonville needs to defend the run better but Bryan is more of a pass rusher. He’s an inside/out type with great potential. The Jaguars have loaded up on both lines. They’ll hope that can mask two issues — the quarterback and their inability to defend the deep downfield shot.
#30 Minnesota Vikings — Mike Hughes (CB, UCF)
Mike Hughes’ tape is really good. He’s not the biggest or fastest corner. That said, you have to like his grit and knack of being around the ball. I prefer Isaiah Oliver personally. Yet the Vikings have done a good job drafting for their defense in recent years.
#31 New England Patriots — Sony Michel (RB, Georgia)
Bill Belichick is a master. He doubles down on Georgia studs. Sony Michel isn’t a fit everywhere (including, in my opinion, Seattle). However, he’s a perfect fit for the Patriots offense. He’s their type of back. Great move by the Pats. Adam Schefter says some teams had some concern about Michel’s left knee. He injured an ACL in High School and Chris Mortensen added it was a ‘little loose’ at the combine.
#32 Baltimore Ravens (via Philadelphia) — Lamar Jackson (QB, Louisville)
The Ravens moved up and took Lamar Jackson with the last pick of the day. Joe Flacco probably feels a little nervous today. Personally I’d rather face Josh Rosen twice a year than Jackson. The Ravens did the smart thing planning ahead. Jackson was the most electric player in college football for two years straight. Major talent.
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GO HAWKS!!
I’m rather pumped. 🙂
Me too. Let’s do this thing
SEA!!!!
HAWKS!!
Is it just me or do you miss having the first 3 rounds all in one day?
I liked the Saturday/Sunday drafts in early April.
I liked it on Saturday as well
Maaan I remember waking up 2 hours before the start on Saturday waiting for the draft to start.
Me too. Friday night Smackdown and then the draft on a Saturday morning come April was lit! God being an adult sucks.
Haha i thought I was the only one who was excited for Smackdown then the Draft lol
oh no. Those were the good ol’ days my man.
Gonna be weird when Monday night RAW is on Fox and SD! is on FS1 huh?
For sure. I’m curious to see if they switch up the presentation.
For my 3 hour raw is too long. It should be 30 min pre-Raw show, 2 hour show then 30 min post raw show
That would be interesting. The only thing I like about 3 hrs is you get good-great t.v. matches weekly. Although I’m a storyline, angles, promo type guy anyways.
Like a Talking Smack and RAW talk every week? That’s a really good idea actually.
Exactly!
I’m so excited for the draft but I really just want it to be over so I will know what happened
Never been so pumped to see what the trade down looks like
Being a Seahawks fan is a markedly different experience than being a fan of any other franchise. Bask in it. 🙂
Rob, quick question. Have you ever thought of putting like your favorite draft prospects going into every season on the header?
I asked the guy who designed the site to update it to the LOB a year ago, in their college uni’s. He agreed and then never did it. Not heard from him since.
ahh. Great idea. That would’ve been dope.
Impressive amount of booing this year. Came close to drowning out Goodell completely.
33 and 35 really? That would be epic. Then a trade to Dallas perhaps?
Who do ya’ll think is the 1st overall selection?
I’m hoping Baker Mayfield then hire Lincoln Riley next year
I’m gonna say Darnold.
This is what I meant by this draft being so up in the air. Cleveland hasn’t turned the card in why?
There’s zero chance they don’t already know full well who they’re drafting. Could be using more time to work draft day trades.
Hopefully Baker Mayfield
Pump up that head of His
Merry draft Christmas (or any other special holiday) all!!
Love this community!!
haha! Fox is just the NFL network coverage
Ground_Hawk says:
April 26, 2018 at 4:58 pm
“Alright, alright, alright” lyrics from a Decemberists track. Nick Chubb was born in December.
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Statistically so are 1 in 12 of the draft class. 🙂
That would, statistically speaking, narrow the list down to less than 30 players.
Go Hawks!
Would prefer if people don’t tip picks in the comments section please BTW.
Don’t ruin it for those who don’t want to know.
Yes please
Final 7 round
33 Isaiah Oliver
35 Nick Chubb
50 Christian Kirk
116 Shaquem Griffin
120 Dorance Armstrong Jr.
141 Poona Ford
146 Isaac Yiadom
168 Tyler Conklin
175 Tony Brown II
188 Patrick Morris
226 Jordan Thomas
248 Keith Kirkwood
Dig it
Nice!
HAHA!
100% right move.
Wanna see him make throws in a condensed pocket when the play don’t break down
He’s Tony Romo for me
Damn good at play action though
I truly believe Mayfield will be the one to break the Browns’ curse.
Love the pick, Browns. Awesome!
That draft room looked like they weren’t in on the surprise
Browns now praying that Saquon still there at 4!
Saquon is gone
Not sure you pass on Darnold but I think Mayfeild will be good for the Browns.
That is the most Cleveland Browns pick ever
I lean that way too
Seriously. I mean I hope it works for them, but yeah.
Spoiler: it will.
Jets wanted Baker. Now what? Sammy?
Rosen
Reminder to not spoil picks PLEASE
That is not a spoil, that is my guess.
Can we not guess? Not being smart, just want to know if that will upset people as well
Definitely didn’t mean your obvious guess.
Cool
I will wait until Rob posts.
The recent buzz has been true so far, hopefully Seattle getting 33 and 35 is too.
Giants finally have a run game. No excuses for Eli now. Dynamic RB, Dynamic Wr, Dynamic TE. Perhaps the best skilled players in the NFL.
Now they need an OL
Yeah, I’m not a fan of that fit
I thought Baker Mayfield to the Brown’s was a grand idea because of his attitude and competitiveness. They need some were not gonna take loosing attitude. Best wishes Browns fan’s
They needed a culture. Great point.
With all the Luck news, does Indy draft a QB?
The Jets spent a 1st on an offensive player?
Darnold is really interested in his hair.
Wait, is the rule that we can’t comment on picks once they are made? That seems a bit strange for a live blog…
No, the rule is don’t tip picks before they’re announced.
Some reporters are in media rooms getting the picks before they’re announced. They tweet them out. I’m asking that people wait for the picks to be announced before discussing them.
Ah, ok. That makes sense. Thanks.
No. Don’t tip them off before they’re announced on tv
Please!
You don’t have to wait for Rob.
Browns go Chubb, trade back for Guice or take him here?
Trade if they can get Buffalo over the barrel.
Now it should get interesting.
It will be very interesting to see how the Giants use Saquan. If they try to stick him in I formation and run him 20 times a game they are going to be disappointed. But if they move him around and make an effort on getting him the ball he can be ridiculous with their other weapons. I don’t have a lot of faith in that organization, but it will be interesting to watch.
Great result for the Jets.
Agreed that trade up looks pretty good now!
Sam Darnold hates his nickname ‘Our Lord and Saviour’
Enjoy him Jets.
Both NY teams get a messiah
Does Mr. Stanford get Mr. UCLA?
Or maybe Josh Allen??
SHOCKER
Wow!
Woooooooooooow
If Denver gets Chubb and pairs him with Von Miller?
Maybe Rosen
…..week 1….. *prepares for fetal position*
They about to tee off on us come week 1
Wow. Does Indy stick and get Chubb?
Hope the Browns don’t trade back. I want them to take Chubb then have to trade up with us to get OT.
Wow, CLE got Denzel Ward with pick #4. Seems a bit rich for my liking, but they do need help in the secondary (among other areas).
Didn’t see that coming.
Wow did not see that coming.
Where Chubb goes in interesting. Colts would LOVE him. Huge need. Pairing him with Von in DEN would be ridiculous.
Russ is gonna be running for his life
Wow Cleveland choked again! Simply Amazing!
If they had Ward with a close grade to Chubb, it was a good pick. They just drafted MG last year, to have back to back DE, little waste of draft capital.
Things are going to get interesting now. Let the trades begin.
Can Elway not take Allen here? Just seems too much of an Elway move.
Him and Paxton Lynch would be hilariously bad
I would love to see how many draft experts mocked Mayfeild and Ward to Browns at #1 and 4.
‘up in the air’ aka No one knows
Not taking Josh Rosen here is a big fail by Elway.
Chubb is awesome and Miller and he will crush it, but how often do you pick top 5? Keenum on what a 2 year deal? Rosen the best QB on the board. Yuck
Boy, Denver’s pass rush is going to be terrifying.
OMG!!! Best pick and fit of the draft so far IMO. Run Russ! Run!
That is really going to suck playing that DL week #1.
Thought he was the best player in this class. Him and Quenton Nelson
Agree I had Nelson, Chubb and then Barkley.
I don’t think much seperates Barkley and Guice but that’s just me
Nelson Barkley Mayfield Chubb for me.
Baker is an immense talent.
Did anyone see the sick highlight of Nelson after he was picked. He was at LG in pass pro with no one to block, spots a blitz coming and jets to the far right side to cream a the blitzing safety. Worst day of that safety’s life. AWESOME player.
Deeply irritating interview with Allen, along with being no good. I’m really not a fan
Indy tries to trade back or go Nelson to protect Luck
RIP Russ. Week 1 is gonna SUCK.
Russ will make those two look like fools. Keep him clean in the middle and the outside guys have no chance.
I think you could be underestimating a couple of Elite rushers. They’re gonna hit home more than once.
Better take Wynn and Chubb. Need some offense and some ability to protect Russ.
LZ said Roquan or maybe it was DJ a few days ago
That’s the right move
Great pick for Indy. Best player in the draft IMO.
Can’t argue with that pick.
Arizona better not luck into the best QB in the draft somehow..
Bears are crying.
F yeah they are. Nelson and Ward gone…
😭
Glad Nelson and Chubb are in AFC.
BILL traded up!
Josh Allen who cant throw in the wind might potentially end up in the city with the worst wind come the mlost important time of the season Nov-Dec.? Seems reasonable
The team / player match makes perfect sense.
I knew my mistress Tampa Bay would trade down. They’re gonna take Derwin or Fitzpatrick. Whoever is there. James if both.
Maybe a corner, best DB on their board, so pretty much Derwin lol
Maybe ET?
Possible. Idk about their cap space off hand, but I could see it then them targeting a LB. I know they’re gonna be taking a RB at 38.
I swear the Bucs read this blog man lol
HAHAHAHA!!! Howling with laughter right now
All these rookie QBs in the AFCE? NE won it again. Although I get why those teams would want QBs. Don’t get me wrong.
Right? Miami has to take Rosen when their pick comes. Arizona might trade up with Chicago though.
Playing in a cupcake division of idiots helps New England so much. Josh Allen. Unbelievable. I’m going to be sick if Jackson falls to the Pats.
Rosen to the Cardindala is a good get for them, he reminds me a lot of Bradford.
Bad thing: were not getting 33 and 35 for 18 if the Bucs only got 53 and 55 for 7 to 12
Well 5 spots versus 15 spots
Point value though
??
That’s like plus 300 at least for Bucs
What value chart are you looking at?
32, 64 + a late round pick seems much more likely. Hope I am wrong though.
I think you are, Cole for sure is. 1500-1910 in Bucs favor
Trust in TP
I may have read it wrong.
Do NOT let Arizona luck into Rosen. That would suck so hard.
Seattle about to be the 4th best team in the division. Maybe that monkey clue was the wheels already fell off this damn thing. j/k
Troy Aikamn: the draft is all about measurable. Allen is 6’5, blah blah blah.
Cleveland says ‘hold my beer’ as they draft a QB no. 1 overall who doesn’t have them
Baker Mayfield destroys his stat sheet
Love that pick. Absolutely love it!
Best LB hands down
Hope SF does not get Edmunds.
I’m so relieved! McGlinchey is a major reach.
HAHAHA!!!
HAHAHAHA YES, REEEEEEEEEACH!
Yeah I like him but not in the top 10.
Protect Jimmy G.
Lol 49ers
Good job niners
This might kill the Browns trade if Miller doesn’t make it to 18
That was my biggest fear coming into the draft…
49ers overdraft Mike McGlinchey…ha ha ha!!! Was thinking it was going to be Edmunds. McGlinchey is decent, but nothing to write home about.
Or did they do this to keep the Hawks from getting that Browns trade for 18…???
I disagree, maybe not BPA but one hell of a tackle. I think the fact that he still looks like a 1st rounder while playing next to the Golden God Quenton Nelson says a lot about him.
Most everybody before us needs OL
DB and DE need to come off
SF did this just to mess up our potential pick 18 trade, didn’t they?
Not necessarily. The rumblings are that 18 would be Guice to Cleveland
Rosen looks like Rodgers 🙂
Cards just traded to 10
Oh man, AZ traded up for Josh Rosen.
Or Lamar?
Suddenly the board is not falling well for 18?
Great pick for Arizona if we all think it is who it is
The entire NFC west has young franchise QBs now
Fuck the Cards are picking Rosen aren’t they?
Does that Tackle pick limit Seattle’s trade down options? (Cleveland, NE)
Or does it increase it.
Kolton Miller has to stay on the board until our pick is all.
Could increase thier leverage if Miller is still on the board at 18.
TB has the ammo for an ET trade
Crap – miller gone.
Well we have 4 legit QB in the NFC West now assuming the trade is for Rosen.
Wilson is the best and the old man by a country mile.
I’m still not convinced that Goff is a legit QB.
Thank you, Cardinals. Can’t wait to tee off on Mr. Glass.
Sam Bradford 2.0 backing up Sam Bradford 1.0?
so how about those scenarios if lve, vea, or edmunds are on the board at 18
Something tells me they want to trade dowm but might not be able to and will decide to go with a blue chipper. McGlinchey and Ward going top 10 changes things man.
Seattle can’t pick at #18 and not again until #120
Still some great options on the board!
What a steal for Arizona. What a QB group in the NFC West. Really amazing football ahead of us. Oak got a garbage deal.
What did Oaklnd get? I missed it
Only a 3rd and a 5th.
Only +75 in value for 15 and 79 and 152
I bet McGlinchey was Oaklands guy amd that’s why they traded back
The next Aaron Rodgers goes to Arizona. Not in terms of talent but attitude. Best QB left but I’m looking forward to the Hawks giving this guy problems. I don’t know if he has the fortitude for it.
I have to say, I really don’t see Aaron Rodgers in Josh Rosen. Either in terms of personality or play.
I think he’s more like Matt Ryan in terms of throwing ability. But he lacks Ryan’s spark and feet.
Bobby Wagner, meet Josh Rosen.
I see more Eli than Rodgers in the personality
Playing in a cupcake division of idiots helps New England so much. Josh Allen. Unbelievable. I’m going to be sick if Jackson falls to the Pats.
Rosen to the Cardindala is a good get for them, he reminds me a lot of Bradford
Vita Vea here?
Derwin?
Have to think one of those two guys here.
Could be the next two off the board. Or the other Safety.
Derwin next?
Interesting pick
Ah. More talents being taken to South Beach
If Vita, Edmonds fall to us… anxiety!
If it is Vea or Edmunds you have to pull the trigger IMO.
I love Vea and Edmunds.
But the second and third round is loaded and getting 2-3 good players is better than getting one and not picking again until #120.
if either is there you almost have to pull the trigger
Miami had a great opportunity to make their fans forget about Suh.
Bucs James
Redskins Vea
Packers Alexander
Raiders Edmunds
Ravens
Chargers Payne
Ill be shocked if Vea isn’t a ‘Skin. Agree with ya there
Another ideal team need / player fit
Only 6 picks before we get some clarity!
Derwin here
Josh Jackson could be too. They have no legit outside corners.
Cowboys Fans are praying James falls to them so they don’t have to trade for Earl.
TB D-line is ridiculous now. Vea a shocker after FA/trades by them.
You know there’s a chance Derwin James gets within range for us. Perfect Kam replacement long term.
Great pick for Tb to put next to Gerald Mcoy.
Your boy Derwin still around 😉
I wonder if he is there at 18 what the Hawks do because if the Cowboys take him then you can rule out an Earl trade.
I really thought the Bucs would take him but Vea is a such a unique and incredible player it was a good pick.
Still surprised James and Edmunds are on the board at 14. Dream scenario for a team like GB.
OHHH MANNNNN……. Tampas DL is ridiculous…..
JPP
Gerald McCoy
Vita Vea
Vinny Curry.
Noah Spence. Dirty line.
Makes sense, they have an offense, a D line and a studly but past his prime Lavonte David. That’s about it. They’ll rely on offense heavily and the pass rush/ run stoppage will be the compliment.
They’re actually really well equipped to handle any team they face. A must for the playoffs, which I believe they see this year.
best move in the draft? might be for tampa
I’d be stunned and pleased if we landed Derwin James, tbh.
My whelm would be undered.
tampa best move.
rob….best line!
Ditto
Any way possible Edmunds falls to 18?
Doubt it
+1000000 probably leaving the board now
Landry still there, as well.
Landry is overrated
No edge to him either. Kind of soft
Six long picks that need DB, OL, and EDGE
like that im 200% more interested in the 14 picks from 18 to 33 (if a trade happens) than the to 10
Did NO trade up for Lamar Jackson?
Has to be, right?
Gotta plan for life after Brees. Hard to argue with the move.
1st round 2018 and 2019 1st round + 5th in 2018
Saints move up to 14
Wash had to want Vea! Panye was likely plan B. Still a nice player.
Shocked Edmunds and James are still on the board.
Who is the Saints moving up for?
Saints making great moves again this year. Lamar Jackson would be a golden ticket for the post-Brees era
If that’s who they are targeting
Edmunds perhaps
Takes another option off the board at 18
@Rob are we looking on track to get 33 & 35 so far? One OT left on board
I we somehow get 33-35 I will be shocked. And pleased.
I’m doing shots if it happens. And I still have to work tomorrow.
Oakland & Baltimore could take Kolton Miller.
Let’s just say Edmunds is there at 18, any chance SEA pulls the trigger? And maybe an ET trade targets lower, but more draft picks to make up for the lost picks?
I’d say still trade down. Might up the offer price potentially.
Good point.
Saints gave up next year’s first rounder. HAS to be L.Jackson, no?
Wow wish we could have gotten that!
Really want James to go to anyone but Dallas.
Seems like his only option now other than Baltimore and the Chargers.
Hope the Chargers take him. Would make sense unless they go QB.
That TB pick was outstanding. Pairing Vea and McCoy together is scary good
IMO as good as Donald and Suh. Maybe sliiightly worse
Agreed. They would have possibly been happy taking him without trading down. Hella pick.
Wowowowowowowowowowo
Tampa is the poster child for amazing DTs lol
DA BROWNS!
Mickey Loomis is like JS he is certainly not shy to make a big move.
WOW. Massive overpay for what Saints did. WOW.
I think it’s a great move if it’s for a future QB like Lamar Jackson.
Yes, I agree with that
Sorry I thought the pick was announced. I’ll slow down
I switched off NFLN to cast the Seahawks live draft room to my TV
Wowowowowowowowowowowowowowowo saints! Hahahahahahahahaha
Yes a quick reminder — please don’t tip picks.
+1 Sean Payton would build something special around Jackson.
Davenport… GONE!
Massive OVERPAY
Wow when the Saints want a guy they want him. He is boom or bust IMO but he could be a star.
He’s got a year or two to unlock his potential, and right as he start producing, Brees retires. I just don’t get the move.
DAAAAAAAAAAAMN! A next year’s first for a raw DE?? What in the what??
I don’t believe this. They gave up a future 1st for Davenport?? That is bonkers.
When there’s like 3 Bradley Chubbs in that draft
I like that pick. N.O. don’t have a ton of needs and Davenport fills one
but for 2 1st round picks… doesn’t make sense
Risk/reward.
With the lack of edge rushers in the draft NO clearly said he is the guy we want. If he becomes an elite pass rushe rusher it will not look like an overpay at all.
If people dont think Sean Payton can develop a couple QBs IDK what to say
Perhaps swiping a Seahawks target, but Im not a huge Davenport fan. Could foster a trade down even more if he was indeed a target for Seattle.
Big overpay for Davenport IMO.
Wow that is quite the payment to get Davenport
awesome move for the saints a team that coukd easily win 10 games or so next year and yet again be out of reach for a qb and every year until brees hangs it up. just enough wins or so to forever be out of range.
brutal fail. reverse everything i said. davenport is good but a brutal waste of picks.
Schneider is running calculations and intense on his laptop and Paul Allen looks confused. Did Davenport going off the board mess with things?
No, because I seriously doubt they were taking Davenport or trading down for someone to go and get him.
I was not hoping for Davenport, so it’s all good with me.
Possibly.
He has an abacus to help with calculations
Schnieder is on the PHONE
The Bat Phone!
ATL is trying to move up and Seattle/Detroit trying to move back.
Crickey. That’s a huge swing.
Early leaders for shitting the bed on draft day #1
#1A Currently Browns
#1B Saints (Inclined to put this #1)
New Orleans picked up a little hubris from last year maybe?
Looking good for us. Someone realistically could come for a tackle. The projected trade with Broncos also still seems in play if Ravens or chargers don’t take Jackson. Someone could pay big to come up and grab him.
2 Legit QB are still available as well
Edmunds, Derwin, Jackson, Kolton… hopefully a team is in love with one of these guys and willing to make a Saints-esque trade at 18.
Hope the Ravens take Ridley
Meh.
No
We just got another blessing from the Raiders. SWEET. One guy I didn’t want to touch with a 10-foot pole. Kolton Miller to Raiders.
That was presumably our cash cow, who Cleveland was looking to trade up to #18 to get…
I was hoping Kolton Miller would be on the board for the supposed Browns trade.
A little too much for Davenport in my opinion.
On the other hand, I am thrilled to death the Cardinals did not pick up Lamar Jackson.
Rosen is a legit QB… he might have a better upside long term.
So now what? Didn’t want that to happen darn raiders!
Rob if Edmunds is there at 18 do they take him?
2 picks before us. I think Chargers take Edmunds or Lamar Jackson. Ravens no idea. We could end up with Harold Landry but now BUF has traded UP.
Tom Cable got his guy huh?
Yep
All the guards still there, all the running backs, receivers, and some LBs
Bills trading up has to be Edmunds, no?
A good bet.
I wonder if all the activity with the Seahawks is they have multiple trade offers coming in and have to analyze which one is best. What a terrific problem to have!!
Edmunds and James still there… I know Edmunds is raw but far out
Well that was a Tom Cable OL pick for sure. Sucks for Sea as he was a trade back target.
Tom Cable is helping Seattle.. AGAIN!
Tom Cable “yeah KM is gonna play some RG and long snapper for us”
So glad Miller is gone. Edmunds I don’t want here, so we are sitting pretty right now. Derwin, Landry or any number of OGs…and GUICE
Who da bills going for James or Edmonds?
t
Oh boy did this messed up our trade with Brown
Great pick.
My 3 favorite Hawks prospects still on the board
Edmunds, James, Wynn
Make that 2 I guess.
Great pick for Buff!
Hopefully that can increase what the Seahawks get for their picK
Nice round for the Bills.
Still some great trade bait out there. Including QBs
JS looks like the cat that got the canary man.
I hope he can pull off something big.
Makes you wonder why. Hopefully something very good.
I want them to trade down,but theres finally guys worth taking now.
I really hope SD takes James and then a team trades up for Lamar with us.
I’d take Will Hernandez at 18 if we needed it worse
Lived with his family in a shed.
Ceiling so low he had to stand under a light fixture to stand straight and stretch
If the Hawks can’t trade back and take James will I be the only happy Hawks fan?
Nope I like him a lot, keep Earl around and that’s a great safety tandem while revitalising the locker room.
No sir.
Seems like when Davenport went off the board, there was activity in the war room. Did they want Davenport?
Nope
I feel for you Trevor. Hopefully we trade down.
Does NFL network and ESPN go to commercial when Seahawks up? Usually they do! Please no.
Good call!!!
Yep!
Curious who SD takes. I think they are legit contenders this year.
Do the Hawks take L. Jackson and look to trade Wilson next year?
You bet and I think they should tank the entire season so they can get better picks next year. COME ON MAN. 🙂
Pick James at 18….. trade ET to Dallas for 19!
Damn, so close yet so far
Bills got two incredibly talented players to develop. Nice draft for them so far.
Derrius Guice? My mind would be BLOWN
That’s a good pick for the Chargers.
Jackson falling this far is criminal
Love that pick for the Bolts
+1 Bills and SD get two steals at 15 and 17
Are we on the clock now?
Trade to Packers
Packers trading up is a big surprise.
TRADE!
trade!
Green Bay grabbed our pick!
What did we get back?
Lots of big pics come on baby
That is a great pick for SD and a steal. Ideal fit for that scheme as Gus gets his Kam.
Glad the Cowboys did not get him.
He was the last of the elite guys on my board so please trade back JS!
Lots of fist bumps and high fives to trade down with GB
Yes! Trade
Wow with Green Bay. We can trade down again?
27 is perfect!
What is the trade compensation with packers!!!
3rd and 6th -_-
ugh…needed the third but dropped down 9 spots in the first to get it…
1st, 3rd and 6th for 18
What slot was the third?
76 or so
Exactly 76
Bummed that Miller went so early though, just on the chance that the 33 + 35 trade rumor was true.
Tru
Still in the 1st too. Either they can get more capital trading back again or they can get one of their guys while getting an extra pick or two already
What’d we get???
It’s reported to be a 3 and 6
Just a 3 and gave up a 7
Also we got the 6
Im hearing a 3rd and a 6th
Hope they trade down from 27 and get 2nd and 3rd
+1
Yup!
I’m completely for that as well Ed!
It is all going as Planned!
We got 27 and 76 now. And either 186 or 207
Thanks. Trade down again would be cool.
Drop from 18 to 27 for a 3rd and 6th seems pretty solid…
Points wise….. perfect trade
At 27, I feel like we may miss out on some guys we love like Wynn and Hernandez. However, that may be just the sweet spot for Ronald Jones or Chubb. I sincerely hope it’s not Sweat or a receiver.
100%
High likelihood of another trade back from that spot… QB spot for Jackson to go
27 is perfect!
Let’s trade down again
Landry here?
Nope, but a great pick nonetheless
Jackson may go before we get there. He should, honestly.
Trade down again, need more picks
27 is going to be a good range to get one of those we’ve talked about (Chubb, Wynn, Hernandez, Oliver, etc…). Getting a third is going to be nice. Sure hope we get a second at some point.
Still too high, I need to trade down again
unless theres a trade for earl in the works
If I recall correctly, we were talking about trading with Cleveland for 33 and 66. Instead we got 27 and 76. Without knowing the value chart, I think this is good.
It’s definitely a fair deal per the trade chart.
Good point.
Awesome! Especially with teams knowing we would’ve traded down for perhaps lower than value.
Boise State LB… where does he go?
does he fall hard? the neck is pretty scary
Great trades for GB they basically trade down 4 spots and swap a 3rd this year for a 1st next year. Great moves by them.
Seattle got the better end of that trade
I mean when you combine the NO and Sea trades for GB.
Oh. If you factor in a 1st next year sure. But I thought you were talking Seattel/GB straight up. Reading would be my friend
They gained 21 points and GB gained a little over 16
How much was the 2019 1st from NO worth in PTs?
11
Great point. And they got Kiser for their previous CB. Got younger, better, a first round pick, and a potentially quality back up quarterback.
Makes sense the Browns who are rebuilding and changing the culture didn’t give up 2 early second rounders
I don’t want a trade down again. Earl is the potential second this year.
Me either.
trade earl and they are back to where they stareted
Will be surprised if they do at this point
My favorite picks so far
Jets – Darnold
TB – Vea
Bills – Edmunds
SD- James
Plus what TB got along with trading down for Vea…….great draft.
Chubb and Vea for me
Heck I am glad they are at 27. Makes tonight more interesting.
They might trade down again…
I hope they do. As you say the second and third rounds are where the value is.
Haha – great point. Drinking beer with friends and doing a live draft pool. Definitely want to keep Seahawks in it 🙂
I vote to trade down again as well. Maybe get an early third. If we trade Earl we could have an early 2nd, 50, early 3rd, and 76.
Trade trade trade trade TRADE
We need a second and another third.
thanks to all the twitter folk for letting the picks come in. appreciate reading the comments and listening on the radio
Just take Oliver at 27. He’s a legit 1st round talent. Just do it. DO IT.
dont disagree. but going with the run game for me. love oliver. but need to control the clock
I feel the same way about Isaiah Wynn
same he trumps nearly everyone for me.
We have no idea what will happen with ET. We need all the picks we can get now.
Dallas almost has to take Ridley don’t they?
You would think so
sutton
Another LB with potentially serious medical concerns
Alright Vander Esch, just take past week 3 before it clicks at the pro level. 🙂
27.
76.
120.
141.
146.
156.
168.
226.
I think you’re missing a pick. They had 4 5th rounders and 2 7th rounders coming in.
We got 186 from Packers.
Yup you’re right
Nice pick for Dallas.
People may not love the haul Seattle got from GB, but it clearly isn’t a buyers market at 18. We’ve known for some time now that most teams view prospect #20 similarly to #40 in this draft.
They were talking with ATL per Pauline and they clearly weren’t giving less value than GB.
They also had zero sway this time around.
What do you mean, sorry?
Oh. There was no one this year that teams knew others would 100% trade up to get
Gottya!
Watch B-More still get Calvin Ridley after trading back twice
Wow
Whoah! Martavis Bryant traded to Raiders
So…no Earl trade???
could still trade him over night
not in the first round. still possible for a 2nd rounder i guess.
thought experiment. does seattle go ridley or sutton? thought they both might be gone by now.
I don’t much like either of them. I’d rather trade down again.
same but seattle needs recievers. much prefer others
I think part of my suspicion is that I don’t really trust Wilson to make receivers better – or to throw them open. Taking one that high could just end up with a lot of mediocrity.
no doubt think kirk or moore would be much better. less high point ability but more creativity on the field
Seattle will trade down again
Hopefully another trade back into early 2nd but if not Isiah Wynn at 27 please
I would be happy with a guard in the 1st/2nd and a RB in the 3rd.
What?!?
If Will Hernandez is on the board I predict #27 to Denver for 40 and 74
would be great for both teams
+1. Love it Trevor. Looks good for RB and OL. Albeit that eventually leads to a run on the position
Actually correct Seattle picks:
27.
76.
120.
141.
146.
156.
168.
186.
226.
Detroit, thank you.
There is still an outside chance of Jax wanting Earl here. Not likely but I’m holding out slim hope.
Good call. That would be sweet.
Lions pick is a good one. A guy I really liked as a Guard for Seattle
Wow Ragnow went early. I thought 35-45 not 20…reach.
no reach. possibky best center in the draft.
+1
I expected Ragnow to go top 25.
Bengals follow that pick w/ another G/C in B.Price
Price is much better. I’ve never been a fan of Arkansas O-lineman. Just a thing for me
GB movin around the draft board has me totally disoriented
Bengals didn’t take Wynn or Chubb…whew!!!
Tennessee coming up for…??
A lot of good prospects left. A LOT
Can we take a moment just to appreciate the fact that we’re all here enjoying the draft and haven’t gotten blown up by a nuke. In the messed up world this is it’s so nice to have this community. Cheers guys.
Amen to that brother
Amen on all counts.
Cheers!
I’ll clink glasses to that!
No nukes, go Hawks!!
I think after that pick there is almost 0% chance that Dallas trades 50 for Earl. They have nothing at WR and almost have to take one at #50 don’t they?
earl stays.
seattle gets their picks the old fashioned way
“they earn it.” old quote for the older dogs on the blog.
Time will tell
earl jax? could be a thing
We can still play this correctly and get a really good player. If it’s Sweat, though… I’ll vomit. After that I’ll hope and pray his knee gets healthy and he becomes a beast for us. Apparently he barely practiced because of it. I can’t imagine he would go early. Ronald, Chubb, Wynn, Hernandez.
Doesn’t the PIT/Bryant trade for pick 75 mean they need it now to bundle into a trade up? otherwise why now, nothing else to do?
I was about to ask the same question.
Does N.E. Take Lamar ?
Sure feels like it.
Yes
Sons of guns didn’t even have to trade up like I thought they would.
So Oakland pretty much traded down for Martavis Bryant. I like it.
I just watched 2/3 of the first round on my phone before realizing it was on Fox. Go me.
😸
I mocked Evans to Titans a million times. has to be for him. I could see Landry though
Nice call man
Loss of Williamson was big and Evans can also help a lot w/ the pass rush.
Love that pick for Tennessee. Great scheme fit
If Seattle stays at 27, I’m going to guess defensive line is the pick.
tough to miss on all the running backs and a few others.
No brainer match made in heaven there
+1 they had to get in front of NE to get him.
Seattle trading its 27 to Indy for their 49 and 67 would be Seattle’s best chance at value at this point.
Too far back. You want a pick in the early 40’s at the very least.
If Denver wants Hernandez they could get 40 and 74.
No way. They would drop too far and some big targets would become out of reach. No way.
I would go for that. However, there are good choices at 27.
Might be tough to pass on some of these wideouts unless we get a run on them here
I’m gonna say NE goes with Landry, Ridley, or Justin Reid
Vol would you like Ridley for Seattle?
At 27? Absolutely.
Would love to see Lamar go to NE for his sake.
Cant believe Lamar Jackson hasnt gone yet. Maybe NE?
Wondering the same thing. Part of me hopes he stays a while longer and becomes a target that helps us trade down again
We are about to see. If not then watch em take Falk
Could NE go all offense in Rd 1 with Ridley and Jackson.
Could we see Seattle trade 27 and E.T. to Tampa for 38, 53 and 56? And some balancing picks
I could live with that
I could live with it for just the second rounders, MAYBE. Not moving down again, though.
Wow! Steal for NE
For sure a winner.
Nick Chubb’s jersey number at Georgia was 27…
FFFFFFFFFUUUUUUDGGGEEE!!! Wynn to the Pats.
🤢🤮
you took the barfy emojis out of my mouth
Now I am thinking Lamar to Baltimore. Learn behind RG3.
Ridley. Ozzie can’t pass on his ‘Bama guys
. Glad Lamar is still there for a possible Seattle trade bait.
Fantastic pick for the Pats. Genuinely shocked Jackson is still on the board.
Well there goes one of the amazing linemen I really liked. Wynn is an excellent pick.
+1 pro bowler for a long time in NE. They may even keep him at LT.
Yup, they got a good one.
Well that figures. The Pats take Wynn my favorite Hawks prospect in a long time. That just sucks!
Agreed, but I never felt he was really going to be in play for us anyway with all of our trading down
Too bad because he is just so good and so consistent.
Wynn is gone but Hernandez is still there, so is Chubb, Oliver, Kirk, and many others. If Hawks stay in first round they’ll get a playmaker.
Corbett still back there too . . .
And jones.
Lol Jerry went all out and his fans walk out after the pick hahahaha
Someone presenting JS with a stack of paperwork to look over. Maybe another trade down coming…
For whatever reason let’s hope these next picks go nice and slow
Jones needs to be patient into the 40s when we show up for him
Love that pick. One of the best of the draft IMO
The Carolina pick, Chubb to Denver, and Vea to TB are my favorite picks so far
Excellent to see DJ Moore as the first WR drafted.
Do you take Jackson at 27 and trade Wilson next year?
STOP trolling
No.
Thought Panthers might go Chubb since Stewart left…whew!!!
I wish Seattle picked before Atlanta. Atlanta looks at prospects in a similar way as Seattle, and will probably pick Oliver at #26, ahead of Seattle’s pick.
Maybe Taven Bryan?
I think the Falcons are going for Bryan.
HAHAHA! Ozzie is really about to take Calvin Ridley after trading back twice huh?
That is classic. Would be good manouvering by them.
Schneider looking intensely at 9 player cards.
If that many, almost certainly trades down again. All about finding those cliffs (when down to a few cards at a given spot).
Exactly
Link to war room feed?
seahawks.com
found it
https://www.seahawks.com/video/live-video-player
okay fans do you all think seattle stays
Nope, still only 1 day 2 selection.
No, but they should
kind of agree. dont need a second and a 6 or 7
Trade down, but only for a pick before 45 and a 3rd.
Rumor was Guice is John Dorsey’s guy. Maybe they move back up for him?
I don’t think there is any thought of trading Russell Wilson. Still, Jackson is a really high-Upside talent. We have too many needs to take him, though.
Love DJ Moore. Sad to see he’s zero chance available. If we went WR, I wanted him. Anthony Miller also very enticing. I don’t want Kirk or Ridley.
I liked him too; my favorite WR in the draft and the guy I mocked to Seattle…Ah, well…
😂 Steve Smith. He would have been a great LOB-era Hawk
Steve and ADB would have been fun!
Who will be interested in trade with hawks?
I bet Cleveland still.
I say Denver for Hernandez.
Would like to see Ridley and Bryan go next. Keep all options open for Sea.
I think Sweat is on the short list here.
any guesses who the falcons are gonna pick?
Taven Bryan maybe?
If we stick at 27 Hernandez, Oliver, Kirk or Sweat?
99% trade down
Ravens pick a 2nd/3rd round guy.
I am shocked lol
Yuck! No thanks on a 25 year TE. Although them trading back lessens the sting
Yeah don’t get that one.
yikes.
I don’t really comprehend that, I’d take Mike Gisecki over him
But again, thank you for that pick.
If they move down more than 10 spots for anything less than a top 85 pick I’ll be upset. The last trade down was not in a seller’s market. This one absolutely will be. But that’s only because you’re gonna miss out on some top talent. If they can get one of their guys at mid 30s and pick up a somewhat early 3rd, do it. We need to fill holes afterall.
I don’t see Taven Bryan getting past Atlanta, but if he did and Seattle takes him at 27, I will go outside and do a cartwheel in front of my neighbors.
Video proof if it happens!
Would be a great move
Sweat, Landry, Bryan, Hurst
GUICE <——–
Hernandez, Co.Williams, Crosby
if they stay hurst or hernandez
Ravens pick Hurst at 25…was more like 35-45 for me…reach imo. Alright Atlanta, Dan do us a solid!
Ridley falling like a rock.
John getting ready to turn in a card. Looks that way.
Eesh, not sure we’re going to be thrilled if that’s the case…
better be his room service choice
who is the best DE on the board?
Landry IMO
Landry, Sweat by far
none. duke eijiofor…..
I totally agree
Sweat, Green, Hubbard?
Lamar Jackson still being on the board really surprises me.
It’s jokeshop stuff, beyond embarrassing
Don’t get cute PC/JS. Pull the trigger on some talent
Who do you want Vol?
Guice, Landry, or Griffin
Wait for it, wait for it. 🙂
Traded down a bunch to grab my guy or invest in the trenches?
#GuicetoSeahawks
OMG! We might witness something awesome
What?
What ?
I mentioned it earlier being one of the greatest moments ever in draft history if they take this guy
And they still could, but itll probably be a trade back
Thank you Dan for not getting Oliver or Hernandez or Chubb or Kirk
+100
should give the trade value of our #27 a lot more punch
Hernandez , Oliver or Sweat for Hawks at 27?
WR maybe too? Would they really take Kirk this high?
Anyone want to trade up for Lamar Jackson before JAX/NE takes him?
Ha ha right!!!!
Ok. If we’re picking… I want Oliver, Hernandez or Chubb.
If no trade, agreed buddy.
probably a commercial break here
Yes indeed, time to work a trade. Come on!
Ha. Yup.
Of course. Brutal.
Ridley to ATL. Another turd off the board.
Ridley goes to a great situation in Atlanta. He can learn under a great with a great offense and he doesn’t have to be the man.
Hey Guys the Seahawks are on the clock. Lamar Jackson is still on the board. You would think someone trade up to get him.
Hopefully!
volume, who do you want here?
Guice, Landry, or Griffin
John is OTC and on the phone!
What about Maurice Hurst? Is he a first rounder?
Aaaaaaand, NFL Network and ESPN both go to commercial now. Fak.
Ia this gonna be Shaquem xO
SHHHH
Perfect timing for a Seattle “trade down” commercial break
Please let it be Taven Bryan
Do this ‘RIGHT’
I would love that though
If the Hawks keep the pick. I say TAYON BRYAN or trade down.
Josh Jackson?
still no trade showing.
Trade down I hope. No one I really like here. Well, except Jackson – but no reason to give the Trade Wilson weirdos any more ammunition
If they buck the trend and take Oliver, at least that means they think he’s a multi-year Pro Bowler… really hoping for a trade down though.
Agreed
No trade yet. T Bryan?
Again, wait for it…
Hawks on the clock! I’m betting Hurst or Jones III
Taven or Hurst?
Bryan is really intriguing. I wish he was developed a little more. He makes me a tiny bit nervous, but I like him as a prospect. I’m more worried about guys I don’t want to see than anticipating who I want to see.
Please don’t be C. Williams.
Taven Bryan or trade down
Less than three minutes and no trade. Afraid I’m going to sit though the second round all irritated at all the players I like going by.
I still can’t believe we got nothing for Sherman.
Maybe Oliver?
I bet it’s going to be Oliver.
pick is in!
The pick is in.
Uh oh, pick is in!
Pick is in
Who as on the phone in the draft room?
Bryan or Hernandez. Keep your fingers crossed.
Shaquem or Taven is my guess
what the hell!
I like Penny but a bit of a reach.
Holy ceap why?
WOW
OMG, are you kidding me
Stunned. My 4th best rated back remaining.
Holy cow. You have to be joking me.
Wow!! So many other RB options, I’m feeling confused!
Wow, thought he’d be a target in the 3rd
Fieldgulls goinng to burst hahahaha this evening. I like it, not going to lie
What in the good god.
They did go RB and yall are disappointed or?
Classic Sehawks man
Classic Seahawks is starting to become less than ideal unfortunately
That’s a pretty wild pick man. Maybe they’re really backing his ST value as well? They were atrocious last year. Just find it hard to believe that there wouldn’t have been more value in taking Hernandez or Bryant and then getting an RB in the third.
come on dude. you do this every year. penny. first round? really
Penny over Guice, what the hell, guys?
Rob was right about getting a RB…but Penny? WHAT THE FUCK
Kill me.
What!!!!!!!!
Christ
Who saw that coming? Extremely less than thrilled.
Unbelievable. Total loss of confidence in this FO
They blow smoke all the time.
It’s not the player. It’s the pick. Penny would be available tomorrow
You sure he would have been there at 76 though?
welp… ok.
Who the hell is grading their players over there. Don’t tell me, I know. Ridiculous
God Dammit!
wow could I’d got him with the green bay pick, man they suck at the first round
Wow. I did not see that coming. Is this the Seahawky thing to ever? Go Hawks!
Unfortunately, I agree. I pray I eat crow all year long however
Wow….. the 2nd running back off the board.
Awful pick. Wow.
we could have traded down and still got him.
We couldn’t trade down and still get Penny? Insane.
Would have thought Hernandez now and get the RB in the 3rd from the trade back. I was wrong
What in the actual hell just happened…
Steal. Kamara/Ingram Penny/Carson. Hope so anyway
In what universe is this a steal
Has to be a value to be a steal.
its not much of a steal if no obe else wants him. but hey one pick tomorrow? nice
Joking obviously. Will be if he works out like Kamara
I don’t even know what to say right now. I like Penny but in Rd 3 not Rd 1.
🙁
Seahawks fans are stunned!! I hope he’s worth it!
Why am I not surprised?!
seriously… every year
Leave no stone unturned right.
I’m literally so surprised.
One of my lower rated rbs of that top group…
Really turned off guys
I’m shocked. So many better backs, better players. He wasn’t going to go anytime soon, but he does have a lot of tape where he’s making big plays. I think he was a reach, but I guess it’s better than what we have.
I would have traded down again, but I really like Penny, so I can’t bash the pick itself, just the position he was taken at. Love his tape though
Ok, I’m ready to concede that this FO has no clue. Staggering lack of insight as to how the board will fall.
He at least has some special traits for a 220lb back. I can get behind it but not my first choice at RB.
https://www.mockdraftable.com/player/rashaad-penny
Terrible pick Seahawks. Could’ve traded down to #40 and got Penny. I’ll be the first to say it… Rashaad Penny at #27 doesn’t make cents
Nice pun, but you’re wrong. Penny is special. Clearly the best RB after Barkley and well ahead of some of the bigger names. My only issue is positional value, but love the player.
Seeing a lot of Penny in round 3 stuff. I’m still soaking this in but Penny was not going to last past 64
Maybe should have tossed on JS in that GB trade. Obviously hope beyond hope that Penny is a stud, but this FO has lost the benefit of the doubt. Been a LONG time since 2012.
PCJS have officially lost their draft mojo. Perhaps no team made an offer so they could trade back again, but RP at #27 seems like a terrible value. Terrible.
The best part is how triggered jared stranger is lol
With the 27th pick in the 2018 NFL Draft the Seattle Seahawks select…Penny. Guess Chubb’s injury was a game changer for the Hawks. I like Penny a lot, but more from 35-45. Well, not my first pick but let’s go.
They didn’t have a trade partner, and you think he can fix the run game (which Rob pointed out and PC said), they didn’t want to wait until the 3rd round. They got a 3 down back, that’s what they needed
Not surprised at all. I said the other day you guys were all low on penny. He is a baller. Go hawks.
PFF’s mock draft Penney was #2 RB, ranked #17-overall. PFF was very high on Penney obviously.
me and you were both on him the other day. I’m the one that told you (I think it was you) about his PFF stuff
No doubt, probably could’ve traded down a couple more times and still have picked him. That is the biggest blunder so far this draft., for so so so many reasons. Save a first round pick for that?
Wow. At least it’s an RB, I guess.
I would say now the Earl trade is 100% a sure thing.
I hope that is one thing that this means. But can you really should use logic right now after that pick? Not sure if the drafting room is using any.
I love Penny, but not at 27. There’s their Prosise hedge but with size.
prosise is bigger bigger though?
About the same. But Penny is much thicker
Hes walking! Holy sh**
Tomorrow we will hear that some other team was going to pick him in The first round if we didn’t
js ” we had a top five grade on him”
Not as bad as everyone is saying. He is a big fast running back with three down potential. Plus he is a hedge at kick return in case Locket goes or gets injured.
Likely Lockett will transition to more pure WR and less ST even if he stays. Provides a quality alternative there as well.
I gotta say, I kind of dig it. They just stayed true to what the earliest offseason reports were, and went RB early. The dude was flat out prolific in college. He fits what they like at the position.
Wow. I’m guessing we couldn’t find a trade partner and this was their guy; we said it’s now or never.
Rob called it, we wanted to fix our running game, unfortunately, because we couldn’t accrue more picks, they chose their guy very, very early.
OK so here’s the deal, even if you don’t get the trade deal you want, trade back anyway get something. Penny or someone better it’s going to be available still when you finally pick. This was a dumbass and I am so looking forward to eating my words if I have to, but it’s just hard to argue with that logic because you cannot know what other teams are going to do so you can’t say another team was going to pick him
Over Chubb and Jones II and all those other Defensive players? And they didn’t think they could trade down and still get him?!
Rob will probably tell us why we shouldn’t be shocked or pissed…I’m just deflated.
As long as the pick took to come in.
I’m guessing they were Trying to trade down.
And couldn’t get what they wanted.
So they had to take the back they wanted when they knew they could.
It was that or trade up tomorrow
I think you are right. It started when Davenport left the board. JS looked manic.
Well I guess they picked their RB and thought he would be gone by Rd 3 so pulled the trigger. Not sure how they rate him over Ronald Jones, Michel or Chubb but I guess we will have to wait and see. He certainly was a home run hitter last year.
Michel has bone on bone ion his knee, Schotty knows Chubb and listening to Chubb talk about it didn’t sound like he was fond of him.
Look Penny gives you everything RoJo does but outweighs him by 20 lbs or so
this
I agree. It really came down to thinking that he wasn’t going to be around, but Penny is an awesome RB. Nick Chubb was my guy, but if Pete thinks that Penny would be a better fit, who am i to argue. I would have just trded back once more is all.
Another 1st round pick I think was a reach am so confused only 1st Rd pick that’s worked well is Earl Thomas
Very confused reminds me when they drafted Carpenter
Not that bad. Irvin gave us something, Okung gave us something. Penny may turn out to be an all pro then we will all say that was a good pick.
Yah, Pete and John have to restore my faith. The trust is gone.
Anyone know Penny’s pro day numbers? 32.5″ vertical and 10′ foot broad at combine… not exactly elite explosiveness.
Stood on combine numbers.
compare it to other all pro running backs and get back to me.
Like Bruce Irvin, probably would have been available much later. Should have taken Oliver or Hernandez or taken just about ANY trade down.
But we didn’t have a pick later. Our next pick at the moment is in the 3rd. It was now, or miss out on the top flight of backs altogether.
Yeah, I mean, I know this is what they do. They have guys they ‘can’t leave the draft without,’ and they just….take them wherever. It just *seems* like they leave a lot of value on the table almost every year.
I do think he’ll be a good player though.
Rashaad. As John McEnrow would say. “You cannot be serious.”
We HAVE to trade Earl now. If the first three rounds of our draft is Penny and a 3rd, that is a complete cluster.
why? trading earl just makes us worse. earl is a beast, just pay him.
At least it wasn’t Kalen Ballage.
Comment of the year lol!!!!
Whew, I wasn’t sure there was any silver lining to this, but that just might be it.
Yet.
There’s still time.
I don’t follow college football as much as you guys. But I recall about a month ago some pundits were saying that Penny was the number two running back.
I don’t know. I’m excited but deflated. Exhausted and drunk haha
YES!!!! Called it!! Faith restored in John Schneider! I said he was the second best RB after Barkley and they agreed!
Boo, Rob, for not having him in your top 100. Now you’ll have to watch his tape a few more times and rue the error of your ways. Just messing with you, bro!
But, yeah, I’ve been banging the drum for this guy all off season. Delighted he went ahead of Michel, Chubb, RoJo, et al.
+1
No need to boo Rob, mate.
Love and respect Rob, mate. I was just “having a laugh”. But he never really gave Penny his due, imo.
If you have enough fans, I guess someone’s going to be excited about a pick like this. I am sure not one of them. Even if you like him, this was not the place to pick him. Again, ridiculous.
+2 Hilarious! Every player except the 2nd best running back in the draft discussed ad nauseam. Michel and Chubb are injured and Rojo is not a every down back. Not rocket science.
and Guise is a wierdo, this was a given
I’m not so shocked they took Penny, but at 27!!!!
WOOT!!! PENNY. Perfect for us. Big enough and strong enough to run hard, with enough wiggle to make people miss in the backfield and in the hole. He can exploit small cracks (which with our line is all he’ll get) and still take it to the house. A bit high, but that’s the way the trade-back worked. We didn’t get a second, so there was every chance if we didn’t go here, we miss out on the top backs. I’m excited.
I hope so man. I’m more upset that we didn’t acquire more picks.
Thank you Lord, My guy got got. Penney will make everyone forget about Marshawn Lynch. For all of those who had him ranked lowly, now you get to do research on WHY the Seahawks picked him.
Congrats, dude, see my post a few spots down
I hold you to this: “Penney will make everyone forget about Marshawn Lynch.”
No need. There is no possible reason to pick him at 27. None.
I really really like penny.
Just not over chubb or Jones.
Agreed
Seahawks Twitter having a complete tantrum is the best thing about that pick
Absolutely. Shocked me and at 27, but hes a modern day spread 3 down RB. Can do everything has size and his production against elite teams like Stanford is jaw dropping
You can use him however you want.
I know a lot of the analytics guys like him. PFF had him second I think, has a great speed score, good production, put points on the board…
Have a hard time believing he wouldn’t be available later, but they know more than we do
Maybe they do, maybe they don’t. We will never know
Now that he’s a Seahawk he’s going to be the best back in the draft. 😀
Where’s my buddy Jim?
You called it sir.
Jim lit me up a couple of days ago for saying I wasn’t sold on Penny. But I went back and watched some more tape, and you know what? I like him better than Ballage, Chubb, Jones, or the other guys we talked about.
Tough, physical. Good hands. Value as a returner. He’s a versatile guy. Could be a lot of fun to watch.
Honestly, I hoped we were going trade down into the 2nd for another 3rd, because we are going to miss out on an awful lot of players in rd 2
Lewis, appreciate the shout. Penney has been my guy for months. What I see as his only real issues involve his pass blocking/blitz pick-up and reports that he is a slow learner. All of those issues are correctable and can be handled, as they have in the past, starting with a limited playbook, expanding the playbook as the players learns the system and good coaching. Any RB that produces over 2900 total yards in a season deserves some real respect, that’s why I’ve been calling Penney, the “Rodney Dangerfield” of this class. I’m overjoyed by this selection. Go Hawks; indeed.
Agree with they must have seen him as their guy. He should do well as long as he stays healthy. He can get the job done, and he can break some long runs.
I hope this is the diamond amongst the bunch guys. If he’s a healthy back, that’s a big plus right off the bat.
And he does not have a lot of mileage on him.
Only started one season..
So we have our Kamara?
Watch the Stanford tape. Incredible stuff. Think of him as a 220 pound Tikki Barber
No, to have your Kamara you’d have needed to take him two rounds later.
I expect that the trade down wasn’t there, but I like the pick if only because we are not going to wait on a RB. Not only productive but only one year of wear. He can run up the middle and he can run outside, but mainly, he can run.
Agreed. No trade but picked their guy. They probably aimd to pick him in the mid 30s but if you don’t have a partner to dance,..
Was thinking the same thing. The took the clock down pretty far.
Lots of trades early, but what is anyone coming up for at that point, unless it is Lamar Jackson?
On a positive note, I’m extremely excited about getting an RB.
I’m excited they went with a position we thought of since the beginning (interior OL or RB). Penny was my one of my top 3 favorite RBs (Chubb, Michel, Penny). He’s more physical than Michel and doesn’t have the injury history of Chubb. I wouldn’t have taken him until the 2nd but a late first rounder is a second rounder in most drafts, especially this one. FWIW PFF really likes Penny. Number 1 in breaking tackles and yards after initial contact last year.
Who were the options? A corner? We don’t draft them high. OL? They’ll be around at 76. DL? Next year. RB? Top guys will be gone by 76.
They couldn’t trade back so they took their guy when they could. The war room did not look ecstatic. They probably feel the same as us.
Looking forward to hearing Kenny on the podcast tomorrow. Should be a laugh.
*1
Do we assume SEA couldn’t trade down again? Penny is a solid RB pick but at #27 is a head scratcher!
I would assume so. If they could have gotten to the early 2nd, he still would have been there. But clearly that offer wasn’t there. Since our next pick isn’t until the 3rd round, it was pick one of the top backs (and since he was only the second back taken, must have been their guy) or potentially miss out on all of them.
I would pay $ to see Kenny Arthur’s face.
LOL. I was just about to say that Kenny is going to have a conniption fit
Yeah and Seahawks twitter is going nuts right now. So many on that platform that think running the ball doesn’t matter anymore…smh!
Yes please!
right!!!
Massive reach, I hear the browns liked him. I just don’t feel comfortable with him, he’s the fourth or fifth best rb left. Especially since we took him so high, we could’ve traded down and picked up an extra 3rd and probably used the third from the pack on him.
Mike Mayock had him as the 38th best overall player in the draft. He did have him as the 5th best back so it is a race but nit as bad as it seems.
they had him as the #2 RB obviously.
I don’t get it. No concept of value. And even if he was sniped before we could get to him again, oh well, there were other sufficient backs available. One of the first times I’ve felt this deflated in a long time.
Sounds like a trade never materialized.
Penny: sub 4.5 40yard dash, sub 1.6 10-yard split, and over 220 lbs. Allen Ballage is the other RB who fits that profile.
*Kallen Ballage
Rumor was Pete loved his physical and athletic profile but didn’t like where his head was at
Like Penny is so much better.
Dude is an atrocious blocker.
About Ballage? I read that too
The way Penny moves and sorta his physical profile reminds me of Lynch. Not the physicality just the way he moves with his size mostly
He was one of the top RB’s in the country in regards to broken tackles. Sorry for no link to the source, but it is out there.
And the Jags just got Taven Bryan. Good lord, their DL is fully criminal now.
Yeah they are going to be devastating to opposing QB’s next year.
Jacksonville just keeps adding crazy athletes to that defense.
im actually fine with penny…..but keep your eyes on full backs….dude is very good but needs a power run game and a fullback
the value is terrible.
I’m totally good with this pick. It shows dedication to fixing the run. Penny has game breaky skills. Can be a three down back. If this is the guy they covet, don’t mess around, grab him.
That’s what I can’t get my head around. They must have felt they couldn’t get at him by their next pick, but is he really that much better than any of the other options?
It will be grotesque if the Pats get Jackson at 31
The answer is clearly YES. He was their guy. The only RB off the board was Barklay. They got the one they wanted because they could have picked any of them. Clearly PC wasn’t blowing smoke about fixing the run game.
I’d love to see the Hawks go back to using a FB regularly
Ditto
Michigan’s FB Khalid Hill
Scratching my head initially but the pick makes sense the more I think about it. I really like him but see him as a late second rounder. Doesn’t seem like good value.
On the other hand I assume they must not have had any offers to trade down, at least into a range where they thought he would still be available. Maybe they just decided he wasn’t gonna be there in the third, so they had get their guy now or risk going a another year without a feature back. There’s something to be said with not getting too cute and just getting your guy. I thought Brice Irvin was a reach and look how that turned out. Penny consistently played and produced at a high level. We need a RB we can depend on. Here’s hoping that’s Penny. If he turns into a durable 1,000 yard back this pick is absolutely worth it.
I think you summed up the situation perfectly.
I’m a glass half full type of guy but this just feels like SEA was banking on moving down again (and couldn’t find a partner) so they took the guy the really liked.
On the bright side, I guess we don’t have to tune in tomorrow till pretty late in the broadcast….
I would be watching for pick #50 to see if the Cowboys announce a trade.
Exactly what I’m thinking. They probably wanted reliability over generational talent* Pick 27 is maybe a little high, but that was probably their guy one way or another.
*That is consistently injured or coocoo
yea, must not have liked the trades and/or he was ‘their guy’ NE went RB a couple picks later as well. We know they are perfectly happy to trade back and wait for value, clearly they didn’t want to risk what was on the table there.
I’m just happy Seattle didn’t take Lamar Jackson.
Rob going to be going live with Kenny tonight?
Remember guys. The value at about 20-through the end of round 2 was miniscule this year
Same type pf guys all the way through
That’s what I’m thinking.
Agreed. Penny fit the profile Pete likes and they wanted him. With no second round pick they pulled the trigger.
He can be a return guy as well.
Bingo.
Hes why Seatte has been looking at FBs IMO
You beat me to it Vol. What was the mantra? “Not much difference between 18 and 40”, or something like that. We can judge in a year or two.
I’m OK with it.
Me too. Was surprised no doubt. Thought he was late 2nd rounder
If I’m the pats I take Chubb here and run him right behind wynn
That would be fitting really.
I would take the Qing Lamar good value.
Was thinking RoJo myself.
They took Sony Michel.
earl gets traded? seattle with one pick tomorrow not good
Seattle D with no earl is way better off than with a couple day 2 picks l. Stop the craziness guys. Picks are fun but hall of fame caliber players don’t grow on trees
Hopefully the later round draft magic returns with all of the open spots on the roster now. Need some big hits in this 6 picks between 5th – 7th (plus UDFAs).
No coach in the NFL would have known Michel and Chubb better than Schotenhiemer. If they passed have to think there was a reason.
Penny had clean medical history I think which had to be a factor as well.
There ya go Trev.
He’s RoJo with better size and less wear and tear. Gives ya more in STs potentially too
Michel has bone-on-bone apparently. It’s an injury that doesn’t get better, he’ll be a knee replacement job in his mid-30s. The NFL opioid factory will keep him going until then.
For Michel there were reports that he had bone on bone in his knee
Jackson not getting taken while Josh Allen goes seventh is the most NFL thing ever. Don’t let anyone tell you it’s an equal opportunity league.
That’s quite an assumption.
also sort of shows how they feel about the current roster
Michael Silver is reporting Cleveland loved Penny and would have taken him at 33.
Doesn’t surprise me. Very probable
what does seattle do with their late picks?
There could still be an Earl Thomas trade to get a couple day two picks. If not, I think Shaquem Griffin, DL like Derrick Nnadi, with luck BJ Hill could be in play. I suppose they look at TE, as well. Depth for defense in the later rounds.
And how would in the other team know that? And how would any other team know that?
John Dorsey and John Schnieder are pretty tight.
And on goes the tape. … . . . . . .
Straight to the Stanford tape ASAP
Already watched it a couple times.
I thought they kept him mostly in check.
But Thats a semi-pro defense imo.
Yeah, I was hoping for a little bit more. Stanford wasn’t elite defensively last year – #68 at 169 yards/game at 4.6/run (Penny ran for 175 at 5.5/run).
Granted UW’s Oline is better than SDSU’s, but Myles Gaskin put up 120 yard at 6.7/run with 3 TDs against them. And I LOVE Myles, but he’s not going in the 1st round.
Sony Michel, of course…
Finally got a prediction right that Michel would go before Chubb.
NE got two guys I would have loved to see in Sea.
I just don’t understand why they HAD to have him over the next 5 F****** BACKS
ronald jones in the third? actual jamal charles
Michel=bone on bone
Chubb= do they need another back with injury concerns. Never really fit a zone
RoJo= only so much a 205 lb back can give ya
Guice= Probably weren’t comfortbal rolling the dice after last year. PC knows Ed Orgeron better than anyone
Freeman not physical enough.
Probably
New draft clue up… if anyone is over the shock enough to look at it…
https://twitter.com/PeteCarroll/status/989704657218953217
whats the clue? a tumble weed on an ice berg
Who is a white man that CAN jump?
Mike Gesicki
Troy Apke
LB/DE Uchenna Nwosu used to play basketball, but because of his height he switched sports. He’s 6’2″ btw, lol.
Let’s hope he is good rest should not matter
Some fun Kolton Miller tweets starting to come out. Sounds like a lovely young man.
it’s been reported that it’s not his account
https://thespun.com/news/oakland-raiders-pick-kolton-miller-twitter
He’s such a Cable pick. All potential. I’m sure he’ll develop right on schedule into one of the worst linemen in football.
JimQ. Great call my man.
Baltimore taking Lamar I say again and again.
Happy for him.
Great pick for the Ravens.
Well wow! I really like Penny but I feel we may have stretched here, is their thought perhaps the Hawks have other players they like better penciled in for rounds 2 and 3, go get the run game solidified; we still have the possibility to gain 2nd round with an Earl Thomas trade, we gained a third round with trading back with GB plus a 6. I have to think they know what their doing and Penny does look pretty darn good.
Kareem Hunt was the star of the Senior Bowl game last year. Penny was this year. Similar RBs and hopefully similar rookie seasons.
Wow! Great point. We overlooked that and shouldn’t of. They take one of the standouts from that game every year
I’ve taken a few minutes to calm down and I am coming around. If Penny is Kamara/Hunt, why should we be upset we took him in the 1st? In hindsight Kamara and Hunt would be 1st round picks.
Stoked for Jackson! Hope he tears the league to shreds
agree. favorite qb this year
Same. He’s significantly scarier than any of the others. Big upgrade on the potato Flacco has turned into.
that division is wide open for a young gun
+1
Speaking of hints, can you get a penny for a hubcap?
HA! Nailed it
PFF’s review of Penny:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eM4xLIZybeM
The biggest stat? He has the best stats in between the tackles and getting hit at or behind the line of scrimmage, and had more yards after contact than Guice and Barkley (4.5 yards after contact).
There it is.
Thanks. I feel better about the pick now. Even though I would have rather traded down. Seems like they got the man they wanted.
I think the Seahawks truly wanted to trade down to the 30’s somewhere, but there weren’t any takers. If the Browns were high on him, might as well take them and not get cute about it, which what people were clamoring about. I know the SDSU coach was mentioning that NE was also sniffing around Penny and asking about him too, they might have had him in their sights instead of Michel, but that’s complete conjecture at this point.
I do love those stats. They are against MWC competition though. I swear I’m trying to come around on this!
Glad Lamar Jackson went Rd 1. He deserved to be.
Good pick for sure. Get ‘average’ Joe Flacco the hell outta there
+1
Yay Lamar Jackson, is a really cool, nice and funny kid. If we didn’t have Wilson I would have Loved to draft him at #18. The Outer Atmosphere is the limit for him!
Sounds like the Hawks might have just wanted their guy before someone else took him:
@MikeSilver
Browns LOVED Penny. Would have probably taken him at 33. But now he’s a Seahawk.
I would not doubt that NE would have been interested either
If I am any GM Worth a crap, how would I ever let information out of my organization regarding who I am interested in?
Aren’t Schneider & Dorsey tight? Professional courtesy?
Well I haven’t even watched any of Rashard Penny yet and I apologize for whoever was chatting with me about him you loved him and I was gonna do some Scouting! I’ll find out who you were and give you due credit it was just 4-5 days ago.
Well Welcome Rashard to The Seahawks!
I mentioned that Marshall Faulk was from San Diego State so there’s hope he can translate, well of course he can. I still believe in Pete Carroll and John Schneider, I hope you all do also. Well some of you are freaking the Frack out. It’s cool guy’s get excited for ” Penny lane” when our Oline creates huge wide open Lanes in Soloris system.
We still have a ton to be anxious and excited about!
Go Hawks!
I’m a bit confused. We all wanted a RB just a month ago, were all pretty sure they were going that direction. Than Tony Pauline mentions Ballage it throws us off and they still go RB. Yes it wasn’t who most wanted or thought, but he was discussed at length and in detail on here a couple times back in the winter and fall.
Rob backed off his position and the crowd followed. Could hardly be happier with it personally.
That’s true. I was guilty of it as well and try not to, but what are ya gonna do? I like the pick a LOT. Thought he was late 2 and don’t care about them spending a 1st on him. Pull the trigger on your guys even if its a round early. Its gotta work both ways. These teams and coaches want prospects to show them something, but they need to show those same guys something as well. This does. Its a PC motivational tactic
To be fair, I think this was much less a motivational tactic and much more about being (or feeling like you have been) backed into a corner. I doubt that they would really take him number one if they didn’t have to. It’s just hard to believe that they did have to
Told you Ballage was a smoke screen.
Hey Ish. What was that about Kolton Miller?
wasn’t him apparently
https://thespun.com/news/oakland-raiders-pick-kolton-miller-twitter
Fixing the run game was Petes #1 priority this off season and for good reason.
So the Hawks bring in a
New OC
New OL coach
Monster run blocking RG
1st Round Home Run Hitting RB
Sounds about right to me. I preferred Rojo but the pick makes perefect sense given they don’t have a pick in Rd #2
Hawks will take Shaq in Rd 3 and everyone will be happy again 🙂
If Penny’s biggest question mark is learning the system, I can see why they took him.
Penny was not a reach just because you weren’t high on him.
This is like best case scenario in my book. Got a 3rd rounder, got a stud Rb (we know he was our guy because he was the next rb taken after Barkley.) and we picked tonight so I didn’t have to wait to tomorrow.
1st time Seattle has spent a first or second on a player outside the P5 conferences. God they love SD St. don’t they?
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The Seahawks got the RB they wanted. Penny is……
More stable than Guice
More wiggle than Chubb
More health/durability than Michel
And now more commitment to RUN
The league got hot on him as we inched up to draft day. The guy has size, speed, power, vision, shiftiness, can block, has great hands, is ultra productive and competes. There is literally nothing not to like.
I understand the complaints about where we took him, but I doubt he would have lasted much longer. When teams are as quiet about an elite player like Penny, they are trying not to tip their hand, hoping he’d slide to them. There is no other reason this guy was not more hyped, other than maybe level of competition.
Rob did not have him rated that high right up to the draft.
It makes sense, Chubb and Michel are injured as hell. Guice is a wierdo, Rojo is cute but complementary. Penny is the second best NFL running back in this draft. I am surprised Rob did not talk more about him.
He did. The archives in Nov-Dec should have stuff on him
rob actually said the other day in the comments he could see seattle taking penny
I think that comment Schneider made about narrowing their board and not making excuses for guys probably applied to Guice (regarding character concerns). I’m not sure I personally agree, but it fits the way JS phrased it. And Ronald Jones just didn’t seem to fit their style of RB.
I’m with this guy. And he balled in the senior bowl (hawks like guys that ball in the senior bowl)
The TD reception was a thing of beauty.
Anyone see the highlight tapes on Penney? The one play that stands out and is my favorite is with Penney running hard for at least 10+ yards while a defender has ahold of his jersey and gets dragged for most of those 10-yards. That is power. Maybe Penney has trained at an airport, dragging 747’s around like they were nothing. I’d post a gif if I knew how, but check out Penney’s tape and many here will be much more on-board with this pick. I’m just so happy the Seahawks did what was needed the most, they can’t go forward with RW as their only major weapon on offense, only 1-TD by a RB last year firmly placed the writing on the wall, get a feature back. And they did it, Amazing pick.
He’s a really tough runner.
The multiple trade down scenario fell apart when both the big tackles (McGlinchy and Miller) came off the board before our pick. Suddenly there weren’t multiple teams clamoring for our pick. I didn’t see that coming.
Very true. And Penny definitely could have been NE’s pick at 31, so a trade down to 30 wouldn’t have netted all that much. And even if not, CLE’s interest at 33 would have also led to a limited return. Let’s just hope Penny comes out the best of the Penny/Michel/Chubb/RoJo/Guice group.
Watch Seattle pull a shocker and package a couple 5ths and that 3rd for a 2nd. Its possible
Lorenzo Carter is the guy
Wouldn’t hate that. He’s a freak
or hurst
Carter or Green – A likely use of their next pick if no further trades. If ET is traded for #50, then perhaps that changes the pick to maybe TE-Godert (whom, they have met with twice) or WR-Anthony Miller should come into play. As far as ET replacements go IMO they can likely find a guy later in the draft to coach up, guys like Natrell Jamerson, Armani Watts or potentially CB-“Sticky” Nelson as a safety convert? Also, for those concerned about the OL, OG-Wyatt Teller in Rd-5 isn’t much of a drop-off from the top OG’s.
A couple of other guys that I think will appeal to PC/JS are: DE-Ade Aruna who many ignore & a long shot potential Iefedi hedge, likely a Rd-7 pick is small school OT-Gregory Senat (84″ wingspan). Sparky guys too.
Saints traded back into late 2nd/ early 3rd last year for a late 2nd and a 7th. 3rd and a 5th could get it done.
I hope not.
We need to jump in front of buffalo. Let’s get griffin.
Need to jump in front of buffalo. I’m worried we loose griffin.
Phew. Dodged that bullet. I was terrified the poncho billa Guy was gonna announce griffin.