Live blog: 2019 NFL draft (first round)

April 25th, 2019 | Written by Rob Staton


— The Seahawks trade down with the Packers, moving from #21 to #30
— They acquired two fourth round picks from Green Bay (#114, #118)
— They spent the #29 pick on TCU defensive end L.J. Collier
— Pick #30 was traded to the New York Giants for #132 & #142
— They now possess nine total picks

Welcome to the live blog, I’ll be posting thoughts on every pick as they come in. After the first round I’ll write a review and we’ll be recording a podcast.

Join in via the comments section but please — no tipping picks.

#1 Arizona — Kyler Murray (QB, Oklahoma)
On January 3rd I wrote an article saying the Cardinals should take Kyler Murray first overall. He’s the most talented player in the draft. He has the same magic as Patrick Mahomes. The Cardinals needed to make the most of this pick and I believe they did. Now they need to try and get value for Josh Rosen.

#2 San Francisco — Nick Bosa (DE, Ohio State)
What makes Nick Bosa ‘special’? Simple. He’s 266lbs and ran a 4.14 short shuttle. That’s incredible agility to work the edge and it shows. Some players just look better than everyone else in college. Nick Bosa fits that category. He’s a complete defensive end and the NFC West just got a lot better with Bosa and Kyler Murray.

#3 New York Jets — Quinnen Williams (DT, Alabama)
It feels like a long time ago now but Williams absolutely destroyed the SEC in 2018. He was a one-man show some weeks. He was an absolute terror against LSU — a game where it’s often difficult to stand out with both teams grinding through running plays. He battered Elgton Jenkins at Mississippi State.

#4 Oakland — Clelin Ferrell (DE, Clemson)
Well, I had the Raiders trading up to get Ferrell in my mock. I didn’t anticipate they’d make this call here. However — here are some things to remember. Going into the year a lot of people, myself included, considered Ferrell a possible top-five pick. They want tone-setters and leaders. That’s Ferrell. He’s an alpha.

#5 Tampa Bay — Devin White (LB, LSU)
He was recruited to be the next Leonard Fournette at running back. He ended up at linebacker and there are three key points to his game. First — he’s a natural leader. Second — he runs a 4.42. Third — he sets a tone and is highly physical.

#6 New York Giants — Daniel Jones (QB, Duke)
Like most other people I mocked Daniel Jones to the Giants albeit at #17. If you identify a quarterback and have the conviction that he’s great — take the guy. Jones is athletic and has functional skills. Is anything outstanding about his game? Not yet.

#7 Jacksonville — Josh Allen (EDGE, Kentucky)
There are things to really like about Allen. His pressure percentage of 29.1% was by far the best in college football in 2018 (the next best mark was 23.5%). He’s an intelligent pass rusher who sets up blockers. He also had some rough games where he was targeted in the run game or handled by tight ends.

#8 Detroit — T.J. Hockenson (TE, Iowa)
This is an outstanding pick. Hockenson’s going to play a long time in the league. He’s a sensational blocker, he makes big plays in the passing game and he dominates against safety’s and linebackers at the second level. This was a no-brainer for Detroit. Exceptional choice.

#9 Buffalo — Ed Oliver (DT, Houston)
He’s fast, explosive and he plays with great effort. Here’s the issue. He has 31 3/4 inch arms and he’s 6-2 and 287lbs. Where do you play him? He could get smothered inside. He lacks the length for DE and the Bills are an orthodox 4-3 so he’s not a five-technique. Love the quickness but this carries some risk. He only had a pressure percentage of 9.6%.

#10 Pittsburgh (via Denver) — Devin Bush (LB, Michigan)
The Steelers trade up from #20 to #10, giving up a second round pick (#52) and a 2020 third rounder. I had the Broncos trading down to #23 in my mock. Bush runs and hits with incredible intensity. This is a classic AFC North pick. He runs a 4.43 and will replace Ryan Shazier who they miss so much.

#11 Cincinnati — Jonah Williams (T, Alabama)
I think he’s overrated. He’s a marginal athlete and his best position might be center (they took a center in round one a year ago). Williams has a fantastic attitude, approach and he’s A-star in terms of character. It’s tough playing O-line at the next level though if you lack power, length and agility. He ran an 8.01 short shuttle and a 4.79 short shuttle.

#12 Green Bay — Rashan Gary (DE, Michigan)
So much for Gary lasting to the Seahawks at #21. There’s been far too much negativity about him recently. It’s funny how some guys just get targeted like that. Jim Harbaugh loved him. He has Jadeveon Clowney-level athleticism. He’s a superb fit at DE in Green Bay’s scheme. He ran a 4.58 at 277lbs.

#13 Miami — Christian Wilkins (DT, Clemson)
This is a quality pick for the Dolphins. They are rebuilding in the trenches. They need to shift the culture in Miami. They need new leaders, people who set a tone. That’s Wilkins. High character, infectious and he plays his tail off. Impact player.

#14 Atlanta — Chris Lindstrom (G, Boston College)
This was rumoured earlier in the day. It had been reported that some teams ended up grading Lindstrom in the top-20. Clearly Atlanta was one of them. He’s very athletic and ran a good forty (4.91) and short shuttle (4.54). He might need to get stronger though to maul and grind at guard.

#15 Washington — Dwayne Haskins (QB, Ohio State)
This was gathering steam this week. The Redskins can’t cut Alex Smith this season or next. They’re tied to his enormous contract. Therefore they were handcuffed to go and acquire a cheap quarterback. Drafting one was inevitable. I’m wary of Haskins. He’s a one year wonder playing in an offense that is always kind to quarterbacks.

#16 Carolina — Brian Burns (EDGE, Florida State)
There are extreme positives and negatives with Burns. He has fantastic athleticism, speed and quickness. He has great length. He had a pressure percentage of 19.7% in 2018. However, he played at about 228lbs last year. Can he keep weight on? Can he play the run? Can he convert speed-to-power or is he just a speed guy?

#17 New York Giants — Dexter Lawrence (DT, Clemson)
Lawrence, like Rashan Gary, got a lot of unnecessary criticism. Maybe it’s because they were the #1 and #2 national recruits and expectations went overboard? He had 33 pressures in 2018 — one fewer than Jeffery Simmons and seven more than Ed Oliver. He can rush, he’s an incredible athlete for his size and he’s stout. Great pick.

#18 Minnesota — Garrett Bradbury (C, NC State)
Pat Elflein was a weak link last year. Bradbury has incredible hips and he can twist his body to make reach blocks like very few interior O-liners. This stood out so much at the combine — I don’t think I’ve ever seen a lineman with hips like Bradbury showed that day. It’s a solid pick and makes sense based on their needs.

#19 Tennessee — Jeffery Simmons (DT, Mississippi State)
Some believe Simmons was the best player in the draft and it’s a compelling argument. He has a frame similar to Ndamukong Suh. He’s all muscle at +300lbs. He handles double teams with ease and flashed great pass rushing ability against Iowa in the Bowl game. He dropped because he tore his ACL during combine training.

#20 Denver (via Pittsburgh) — Noah Fant (TE, Iowa)
The Broncos were after a tight end. They traded down ten spots and get the second one off the board. Will Denver move back into the first round to get Drew Lock later on? If so, #29 could be an option for them. The Seahawks dealt with the Broncos on the Paxton Lynch trade. Fant is big, fast and highly athletic.

#21 Green Bay (via Seattle) — Darnell Savage (S, Maryland)
For the second year in a row, the Seahawks trade down with the Packers. Seattle moves from #21 to #30 — so they now own back-to-back picks at the end of the first. In return they get two fourth round picks (#114 & #118). They now have seven picks. The Packers are spending all their high draft stock on defense under their new GM. I really hope Seattle mimics that approach give the current state of the roster. Savage ran a 4.36 and you can’t teach speed.

#22 Philadelphia (via Baltimore) — Andre Dillard (T, Washington State)
The Eagles trade up from #25 and give the Ravens a fourth and sixth round pick. Andre Dillard ran an absurd 4.40 short shuttle at 315lbs and ran a 4.96. He’s the best pass-protecting lineman in the draft. The Eagles secure their tackle position for the long haul with Jason Peters now aged 37. This is good value for Dillard.

#23 Houston — Tytus Howard (T, Alabama State)
A lot of people liked Howard. Tony Pauline raved about him at the Senior Bowl. He did have that one rep against Montez Sweat that didn’t go well. The Texans needed to draft an offensive tackle. Bob McGinn noted in his mock draft that Jawaan Taylor has a knee issue.

#24 Oakland — Josh Jacobs (RB, Alabama)
Marshawn Lynch retired this week and set the stall for this pick here. Undoubtedly Jacobs emerged in 2018 and had some really fun plays. However — he didn’t have a great pro-day and you have to question his upside. He had 120 carries last season and that was by far his biggest tally.

#25 Baltimore (via Philadelphia) — Marquise Brown (WR, Oklahoma)
Antonio Brown’s cousin lands in the AFC North. The Ravens needed a receiver or an offensive lineman. Brown had a fantastic season in 2018. Yes he benefited from playing with the #1 pick on a loaded roster but he just gets open and makes big catches. Lamar Jackson can get it downfield.

#26 Washington (via Indianapolis) — Montez Sweat (EDGE, Miss. State)
The Redskins took Dwayne Haskins and then gave up their second round pick in 2020 to move up from #46. Chris Ballard now has three second round picks. He gets it. There were concerns about a heart condition. His 4.41 forty at 260lbs was incredible and he has 35 3/4 inch arms.

#27 Oakland — Johnathan Abram (S, Mississippi State)
Oakland’s draft was all about setting a tone, finding intense alpha males and that’s what they’ve added. Three physical players with leadership quality. They’re trying to build a tough group. The worst thing a team can do is not have a clear plan. The Raiders have that in this draft.

#28 Los Angeles Chargers — Jerry Tillery (DT, Notre Dame)
Recruited as a left tackle, Tillery’s physical profile is highly impressive. He’s 6-6 and 295lbs but still ran a 4.44 short shuttle. He had a weird game against USC where he kicked one player in the head and stamped on another’s ankle as both lay on the turf. Had a pressure percentage of 12.2%.

#29 Seattle — L.J. Collier (DE, TCU)
The Seahawks trolled the first round by using their back-to-back picks to essentially create a 20-minute on-the-clock window. They used pick #29 and traded pick #30. L.J. Collier is a beast. As I wrote earlier today, he wins with speed, speed-to-power, bull-rush, engage/disengage. He’s one of my favourite players in the draft and it’s a great pick. His pressure percentage was a high 19.2% in 2018.

#30 New York Giants (via Seattle) — De’Andre Baker (CB, Georgia)
The Seahawks traded down from #30 to #37 and gained a fourth (#132) and fifth (#142) round pick. Baker had a weird off-season and reportedly didn’t take combine training seriously. The Seahawks have done what we expected and traded down aggressively.

#31 Atlanta (via LA Rams) — Kaleb McGary (T, Washington)
The Falcons double down with the O-line and pair Chris Lindstrom with Kaleb McGary in round one. McGary is a tough physical, punishing tackle. He’ll give up some pressures but he’s very athletic and you’ve got to admire the commitment to the O-line.

#32 New England — N’Keal Harry (WR, Arizona State)
Harry believed he wouldn’t get by pick #33 and that proved to be correct. He’s a smart, intelligent personality with great YAC ability. Many believed he would be on Seattle’s radar.

That’s it for round one. Thoughts on the way shortly. I’m also just about to record a podcast with Brandon Schulze so stay tuned.

#29 (R1) L.J. Collier (DE, TCU)
#30 (R1)
#92 (R3)
#114 (R4)
#118 (R4)
#124 (R4)
#132 (R4)
#142 (R5)
#159 (R5)

865 Responses to “Live blog: 2019 NFL draft (first round)”

  1. Volume12 says:

    Ben Ft. Worth.

    It was Red Baron’s Pepperoni & Sausage thin crust. I put extra shredded parm&Romano cheese on it and it’s f***n’ delicious.

    You like Hawaain too? Thought my and brother were the only ones.

    • DC says:

      I grew up slaying Totino’s Party Pizzas. The roof of my mouth peeled off almost every time from the cheese sticking to it at a temperature of “hot as bejeezus”.

  2. TomLPDX says:

    This is going to be a fun night! Finally!

  3. Cameron says:

    My wife is relieved that I won’t be audibly counting down the weeks and days to draft day anymore this year. 🙂

    • Cameron says:

      Especially since we’re expecting our first child in May, so half the time she thinks I’m referring to her due date, then exasperatedly realizes I’m referring to the NFL draft. 🙂

    • Attyla the Hawk says:

      Mine too.

  4. WallaSean says:

    T Maclauren @32

  5. KD says:

    my body is ready

  6. CHawk Talker Eric says:

    Happy Draft SDB!

    Perhaps more than any previous JSPC draft, hard to predict how tonight will go down. Grateful for the added suspense. Day 1’s are usually pretty boring for Hawk Nation.

  7. Volume12 says:

    😂😂😂 Music skckcity

    Let’s draft!

  8. charlietheunicorn says:

    I like the Murray’s suit. That is rocking some styles right there.

  9. KD says:

    Didn’t the 1st round clock used to be 15 minutes as opposed to 10, or am i just misremembering that?

    • charlietheunicorn says:

      I think it was always 10 min… well recently…

      but come-on, Cardinals haven’t ran up to the podium yet with the pick….. debacle inbound.

      • Cameron says:

        Imagine if AZ didn’t get their pick in time…

        I’m sure they’re just waiting for the proverbial offer they can’t refuse.

    • KD says:

      Meh, must be a Mandella effect

    • Rob Staton says:

      It used to be 15 but they wanted to speed it up. That was quite a few years ago now. Think it might’ve changed in 2010.

  10. Seanzpsi says:

    Man this is so exciting!

  11. Volume12 says:

    Yoooo! Lee Corso covering the draft is gold. lol

  12. Michael Matherne says:

    Anyone know how to stream the ‘Hawks war room on PC?

    • charlietheunicorn says:

      I think the has a link to watch…

      • KD says:

        Apparently it’s only available on mobile devices, but does have a mobile app to watch the war room feed

  13. Coleslaw says:

    Let’s go!!! Wouldnt want to spend the draft on any other site. Pick is in!

  14. Gymno says:

    Live war room is on a Seahawks mobile app

  15. David Ashton says:

    Well done Rob
    He did look mighty good.

    Now we gotta play him twice a year!!!

  16. Madmark says:

    I just love boos that Rodger gets. Now Seattle has a new target for a new DL can go after

  17. Cameron says:

    Darn, I was hoping [though not expecting] AZ would be stupid enough to pass on him and roll with Rosen. Gonna be a competitive division for years to come.

    • Volume12 says:

      Would rather face Murray than Rosen.

      • John_s says:

        Meh. Watching Rosen quit at halftime against UW was all I needed to see from him.

        • Volume12 says:

          Murray gets to face Buckner, Bosa, Ford
          Aaron Donald and the Rams D
          And a Seahawk D that gonna get after the passer. Wish him the best but…

  18. Volume12 says:

    Josh Rosen should be fired up. Dumpster fire franchise.

  19. regan sayer says:

    Some talent coming into the NFC West!

  20. KD says:

    Honestly, I was more afraid of a SF team with Quinnen Williams crushing the middle. Bosa could be a monster of a player for SF, but I’m glad it wasn’t Williams

    • Rob Staton says:

      I like Quinnen Williams. But Nick Bosa is off the charts.

    • GoHawksDani says:

      For the Hawks I think Bosa is much worse. Russ tends to pirouette outside where he’ll land into Bosa’s arms… If the middle is broken he can escape outside, but Russ is not too good climbing the pocket. For a guy like Brady or other more classic QBs Williams can be a worse opponent, but for us…I fear for Russ with the Armstead, Buckner, Ford, Bosa, Thomas, Alexander passrush potential

  21. charlietheunicorn says:

    Jets, the first swing pick in the draft… possible trade down for a QB needy team.

  22. Rob Staton says:

    I really like Quinnen Williams.

    But how long are the Jets going to collect interior DL and never take a step forward?

    • KD says:

      *ahem* It’s the jets

    • Cameron says:

      Was just thinking the same. Soooo many highly drafted interior DL.

    • Justin Mullikin says:

      Valid point, but I still like the pick. If he can disrupt plays in the middle he has the ability to be a real game wrecker. (personally I do not care if the Jets don’t get better, actually I would rather them never take a step forward haha Go Hawks! ;))

  23. SoCal12 says:

    I think even at 3, Quinnen is a steal. Jets made the right call there.

  24. Pickering says:

    Rob, you were way ahead of the curve calling Murray #1. Congrats!

  25. Michael Matherne says:

    New wall of Williams in the NFL. Jets will actually be fun to watch this year

  26. Mexican Hawk says:

    To me the most understated and astounding fact/nugget of all of 2019 Draft analysis is and not just in this blog but nationwide is the fact that Rob stated that Kyler should be the number #1 overall pick.

    I may be mistaken but he was the ONLY Draft Analyst to do so. I’m being serious. I would have to go back and double check, but most had him as a second round pick, some in the teens. Not even PFF. I’m talking Kiper, Mcshay, Brugler, Jeremiah etc etc. Even the lesser knowns.

    Tide started to turn and he eventually was #1 on all mocks, but it took a while. I get the baseball thing was omnipresent, but still.

    I commend you Rob, truly something. May seem normal now. But you were firm in your belief.

    Let’s roll….

    • Justin Mullikin says:

      Yes I agree, Rob is amazing! I remember him being the first I could find. Even before Murray ever declared he was going to play football.

    • litl gravy says:

      this is 100% correct, and how nobody in nat’l media “notices” it is a great mystery to me.

      rob said it with absolute conviction at a time when it made as much sense to make the same case for, i dunno, some running back, or gardner minshew.

      he also called that iowa TE, loooooooong before i saw anyone else talking him up.

  27. charlietheunicorn says:

    WTH, Oakland

  28. Volume12 says:


  29. Cameron says:

    Woooooooooooooow overdraft by Oakland [Las Vegas]

  30. Ralphy says:

    How do the Raiders not trade back right there?

  31. Michael (CLTJ says:

    Glad Seattle passed on the jets offer for Clark. No good trade offers, I’d imagine.

  32. KD says:

    First surprise of the evening. I love Clelin and think this is a good pick in and of itself. But Josh Allen…..

  33. SoCal12 says:

    So I’m guessing very few teams are actually willing to give up the capital to trade up? This is the vibe I’m getting so far.

    • Eli says:

      I just don’t think there is enough high end Tier 1 talent in this draft that would make a team feel like they’re getting the guy who puts them over the top. Outside of a QB or Bosa or Williams, no one really makes sense trading up for to me.

  34. regan sayer says:

    Great pick! Love that guy.

  35. Ishmael says:

    I actually like that Ferrell pick for the Raiders. Genuinely high-character guy who you can build a team around. Hell of a player too.

  36. House says:

    Great player… Best of luck to him. Raiders will be here in Vegas next year and I’m sure I’ll gear plenty about him

  37. CaptainJack says:

    Wow… Ferrell at 4!!!

    Well I didn’t see that coming.

    But I did expect Josh Allen to fall.

  38. Ralphy says:

    BTW if the Raiders couldn’t trade out of that pick then we now know why the Hawks didn’t want to trade up to 3 with the Jets. They knew teams wouldn’t be willing to trade up in this draft

  39. Volume12 says:

    Jim Navy’s guy is still there. But Bruce Arians doesn’t draft for need.

  40. mishima says:

    Thank god they plugged those leaks. LOL.

  41. David Ashton says:

    Anyone a bit nervous D Line might just go early early early?

  42. KD says:


    This is what I meant 😀 I like Walter’s content, but he can get a bit too excited.

  43. charlietheunicorn says:

    Good pick for TB

    • KD says:

      honestly, TB really can’t go wrong with White. I can see him being a great player for years to come.

    • Attyla the Hawk says:

      Kind of an Aaron Curry type pick for me. I think White will be much more successful. But picking that high, you need pass rush quality. You need impact. Jarrad Davis is similar — maybe a shade less quality but taken in the 20s.

  44. Volume12 says:

    God dammit. where’s his horse?

  45. Andreas Gravdahl says:

    Best draft of all time already! As a european viewer, there is no way to watch the draft live legally without paying, so off to bed we are!.

  46. Coleslaw says:

    Great pick for Tampa.

  47. CaptainJack says:

    I have to say, Tampa nailed that pick!

    Although I thought they were pretty good at linebacker already.

  48. charlietheunicorn says:

    Giants Haskins Do It

  49. MJL says:

    another bulls eye for Rob…

  50. Volume12 says:

    This is where I could see Rashan Gary go. Gettleman gives no f***s.

  51. CaptainJack says:

    Well I didn’t see that coming.

    I love the draft.

  52. mishima says:

    OMG. What a dumpster fire.

  53. Coleslaw says:

    Looking like 5 QBs tonight really might happen lol

  54. Justin Mullikin says:

    PSA: Get your quarterback now!

  55. Ishmael says:

    Daniel Jones is the most Giants looking QB you will ever see. When you think about some of the QBs they could have had… I’d even rather have traded for Rosen.

  56. Michael Matherne says:


  57. MJL says:

    Giants couldn’t have traded there and gotten him like 20 picks later??

  58. HawksBill says:

    It wouldn’t be the 1st round without some QB hail marys. Giants fire off the first one.

  59. Volume12 says:

    This is gonna be one of those drafts where the top 10 in no way shape or form will be anything close to the best 10 rookies .

  60. charlietheunicorn says:

    Get the hell off my TV Taylor Swift

  61. lil’stink says:

    Trade up for Allen, JS.

  62. charlietheunicorn says:

    They will look back in 5-10 years at this draft top 6 and go…..

    Pro Bowl
    Pro Bowl
    Pro Bowl
    Pro Bowl

  63. Michael Matherne says:

    Kinda feels like that Jake Locker, Christian Ponder, Blaine Gabbert draft

  64. Rik says:

    Jones exudes the charisma of … Eli Manning. I’ll be amazed if he’s actually an NFL starter.

    Reaching on QBs helps us immensely.

  65. Rob Staton says:

    Someone’s getting a steal in Hockenson.

  66. charlietheunicorn says:


    Ralph Vacchiano


    Raiders select Clemson DE Clelin Ferrell at 4 … destroying mock drafts everywhere and proving the Raiders are the Raiders no matter who is in charge.

    5:49 PM – Apr 25, 2019

    • charlietheunicorn says:

      Michael David Smith


      Mayock and Gruden sent the scouts home because they didn’t want anyone around to laugh at them when they made the pick.

      5:48 PM – Apr 25, 2019

  67. Volume12 says:

    That’s the most Lions pick ever.

  68. CaptainJack says:

    hockenson is so overrated

  69. Volume12 says:

    Does Elway take Haskins?

  70. KD says:

    When was the last time a TE was taken before a WR in the 1st? Says a lot about the WR class this year I guess.

  71. HawksBill says:

    The Donnelly’s pub cam was epic!

  72. charlietheunicorn says:

    Bills should be taking OL here, but I guess…. who knows

  73. mishima says:

    Bills go DK Metcalf?

  74. charlietheunicorn says:

    11 picks to go……. things breaking Seahawks way so far.

  75. KD says:

    Absolutely LOVE Ed Oliver. Condolences for becoming a Buffalo Bill

  76. regan sayer says:

    Tom Brady killer!

  77. Volume12 says:

    Guys. The Jets have won round 1 so far.

    • Attyla the Hawk says:

      Not a bad take. Hoped we would trade Clark to Jets and have the chance to get him. Crazy great tape.

  78. Ishmael says:

    If we manage to get Gary somehow… That’ll be the happiest I’ve been about a Seahawks pick in a while

  79. CaptainJack says:

    Bills get an overrated Defensive lineman with no good NFL fit… lol

  80. chris banta says:

    when does the first offensive tackle go?

  81. Attyla the Hawk says:

    If Dillard is still on the board and we take Gary, I’m going to burn something Seahawk related.

  82. HawksBill says:

    Robin Roberts covering the draft for ABC? I don’t even know who she is but her suit is giving me a headache.

    • charlietheunicorn says:

      Good Morning America co host. Her voice disturbs me. Her back story is actually pretty interesting however. I hated Taylor Swifts outfit more..

  83. Volume12 says:

    Why does this guy look different than the guy they just showed on that highlight package?

  84. Michael Matherne says:

    If I’m the Broncos I just draft for defense. If they can win a SB with the worst QB in the league (that year) why even try to fill the position?

  85. charlietheunicorn says:



  86. Volume12 says:

    Who Pitt coming up to get?

  87. KD says:

    TRADE! Oh My!

  88. regan sayer says:

    Devon Bush

  89. Attyla the Hawk says:

    Steelers in for Bush?

  90. chris banta says:

    devin bush

  91. SoCal12 says:

    Those reports about the Steelers are true I guess. I’m curious who they absolutely wanted so bad in the Top 10.

  92. Rob Staton says:

    I had the Broncos trading down from #10 to #23 then taking Drew Lock.

    Wonder if they’ll still take Lock at #20.

  93. chris banta says:

    devin is wearing the worst jacket I have seen in a long time!

  94. Justin Mullikin says:

    I love Pittsburg Trading above Cincinnati to select him. HAHA 😀

  95. charlietheunicorn says:

    I’ve not seen the trade breakdown, but must be a 1st and 2nd and future 2nd points wise

  96. CaptainJack says:

    Steelers move up for a tiny and speedy linebacker

  97. Michael Matherne says:

    The outfits get worse every year. It looks like he’s coming in with a shoulder injury…

  98. SoCal12 says:

    Devin looks like he graduated from Wakanda Tech.

  99. David Ashton says:

    Always been a big Devin Bush fan. Twitchy and hard hitting.

    Know you had some reservations early Rob. Did you fully come round?

    • Rob Staton says:

      I still think he will need to tone it down. At Michigan he was given the freedom to go all-out rush at the LOS and he gave up some easy runs by losing contain on his side. He’s not great in coverage despite his speed. But as a run-and-hit linebacker, wow. He hits like a sledgehammer.

      • David Ashton says:

        Thanks for the note.

        Serious attributes, sounds you understood the pick.

        Hopefully he can take to the coaching you speak of to realise potential. I know we had a bit of dialogue regarding Jarrad Davis going missing in coverage (who you liked) but Lions believe he can improve. I see Bush as a better prospect, personally. Not light and day but enough to take note.

        I also loved Steelers aggressive move. They’ve jumped Bengals like that a few times it feels

  100. chris says:

    yeah I thought he had a shoulder injury as well.

  101. KD says:

    A couple of surprises so far, but not nearly as crazy as some people were predicting. Everything seems to be shaking up really well for SEA so far.

    • Lupe Green says:

      “Everything seems to be shaking up really well for SEA so far”. Every time I hear this, I prepare to be surprised by our pick.

  102. Michael Matherne says:

    How ridiculous did Vince Wilfork and DeAngelo Williams look in their Bridgestone sponsored costumes?

  103. HawksBill says:

    Were all those Haskin’s kids?

  104. chris banta says:

    there goes the first offensive tackle.

  105. Volume12 says:

    Love that pick.

  106. J says:

    I don’t care about his arm length either, I care about him being in the bottom quarter of NFL OL athletically.

  107. CaptainJack says:

    Super thud pick for cincy.
    What a joke. Bust.

    • KD says:

      This is why I wasn’t betting on Gary when Carroll was sending out draft clues on twitter. Pete knows with 100% confidence that HIS guy will be there. There was no way he could be bet on Gary being available.

  108. charlietheunicorn says:

    I really like the value Denver got by trading back 10 spots.
    Elway made a nice move.

  109. charlietheunicorn says:

    F YOU GB


  110. CaptainJack says:

    There goes Gary. Boohoo.

    • Michael Matherne says:

      No reaction whatsoever in the war room. I’m guessing NFL front offices knew he was gonna be top 15 all along

  111. MJL says:


  112. Eli says:

    Interesting that Goodell announced Gary as a linebacker

    • Justin Mullikin says:

      It is just because of GB scheme.

      • Eli says:

        That’s what I was thinking – but if they’re a 3-4 wouldn’t he play DE and then kick inside in sub packages? Saying LB makes me think of him playing with his hand up as a rush linebacker, which is interesting since he’s a 285 lb. DT as of right now

  113. CaptainJack says:

    Glad we avoided McDowell 2.0, TBH

    • Cameron says:


    • Rob Staton says:

      Nothing like McDowell.

      Stop trolling.

      • CaptainJack says:

        Not trolling at all, but ok.

        Gary might not play rookie year.

      • Cameron says:

        Not a direct reflection of McDowell, but some red flags that strike me as higher than average bust probability. High pick with higher than palatable risk. A similar general feeling that surrounded McDowell (if not quite to the same level).

        • Rob Staton says:

          It’s not even a remote comparison.

          They’re totally different players, totally different physical profiles and totally different personalities.

          The only similarity I can see is they both play defensive line.

          • Cameron says:

            Taking too much of a literal comparison. The McDowell reference is purely an emotional connection of too high risk for comfort with a high pick. Too much bust potential for the draft capital.

            Reference could have been made with the same intended sentiment regarding a safety. Or a WR.

            • Rob Staton says:

              Even then — I can’t see how anyone can make the comparison there. McDowell genuinely mailed it in and had a very peculiar personality. Gary was a focal point of the #1 statistical defense in the country and is a good guy who has battled severe dyslexia to become an all-academic.

    • Michael Matherne says:

      So are your officially predicting that Gary ends his career in a freak ATV accident?

      • Dog says:

        no McDowell represents a high pick/low return (for me). Gary may turn out to be great but he has high bust potention imo.

    • Dog says:


      I feel we dodged a bullet but will be happy to be proven wrong.

  114. Volume12 says:

    I had him in my mock, but I’m actually ok with this.

  115. KD says:

    Not surprising tbh. I wasn’t betting on Gary being available, and neither was pete it seems for good reason.

  116. mishima says:


    What’s the floor for Lawrence and Wilkins? How far does Sweat fall?

  117. Nathan W. says:

    Damn you, Green Bay!

  118. John_s says:

    Miami has to take Haskins right?

  119. J says:

    We gonna get someone good I can feel it.

  120. CaptainJack says:

    Phins nailed it.

  121. Rob Staton says:

    By the way… Steve Smith blatantly tipped the Rashan Gary to GB pick on NFL Network.

    He sat there acting like he was touting that as a possibility. Give over Steve.

  122. Justin Mullikin says:

    After watching those splits I’m a fan of Christian Wilkins now haha looks like a fun kid!

  123. KD says:

    Wonder if its Lawrence to ATL? Saw a spot on NFL Network earlier today with Vic beasley going back to Clemson and hanging out with Dexter

  124. CaptainJack says:

    I think Atlanta takes sweat or Lawrence

  125. CanuckBrad says:

    The NFL network’s sound effects on the highlights are next-level swooshy.

  126. Attyla the Hawk says:

    Seahawk war room cam is now must watch. Getting active there.

  127. AlaskaHawk says:

    it’s hilarious reading the instant draft grades with Yahoo staff writers.

    So far the lowest grade is C- on the Giants QB pick.

    Only A grade is the Jets. Two A minus grades for Steelers and 49ers. Cardinals only got a B+

  128. Volume12 says:

    Really like Chris Lindstrom, but not at 14.

  129. chris says:

    who is the kid in the hawks war room sitting behind carroll?

  130. Trevor says:

    Great pick by the Dolphins A+

  131. HawksBill says:

    Everyone looks comfortable still on the Seahawks war room cam.

    • SoCal12 says:

      I think they’re starting to feel confidant one of their guys is going to be there. I’m antsy to find out who it is. Or maybe they got good deals on trade backs lol.

  132. Volume12 says:

    Haskins or Lock here to Washington?

  133. charlietheunicorn says:

    Time to warm up the Seahawks draft pick trade phones

    *testing testing testing*

  134. Don says:

    Sweat and Burns might last to #21. Hawks better not trade down from 21.

    • AlaskaHawk says:

      Yes I would rather they traded back on #29 too. The trade value difference is a mid third rounder at 160 points.

    • KD says:

      They likely identified their target weeks before the Clark trade, and there is no guarantee that it’s either of them. All we know is that Pete is 100% confident that his guy will be available in the spot they want.

  135. Michael Matherne says:

    The war room stream is garbage. Won’t cast to my chromecast, or even go full screen on my phone.

  136. Volume12 says:

    I think Carolina might go OL, but them and the Giants at 17 make me nervous in terms of pass rushers.

    • charlietheunicorn says:

      Giants might be looking for WR or TE however

      Panthers are a bit of a wildcard to me

  137. Volume12 says:

    Man. I f***n’ love that pick.

  138. Cameron says:

    Nice, had Haskins to DC.

  139. chris says:

    we might have our choice of wr if the hawks decide to make one their first pick.

  140. Volume12 says:

    Minnesota has to jump at Dillard if he’s there yeah?

  141. HawksBill says:

    Pete’s musical clues had a lot of references to “easy”. Another term for easy is “no sweat”…..
    Montez Sweat ????

  142. Volume12 says:

    Noooo!! Had a feeling. Fantastic get.

  143. KD says:

    There goes Burns. Again, not surprising and was probably not going to be the Hawks pick anyways, even if he fell. Pete knows who his guy is and knows the right spot to take him.

  144. Trevor says:

    Carolina took our guy Vol! That sucks really hoping we would have a shot.

    • Volume12 says:

      I know man. I’m bummed out. Panthers and Giants made me nervous. It’s their m.o.

  145. SoCal12 says:

    Welp. If Sweat gets picked soon, I think we go WR (N’Keal Harry is my guess) or S (Juan Thornhill) maybe. Starting to feel they might be going after Jaylon Ferguson too. Chris Simms comped him to Frank Clark.

  146. MJL says:

    kind of glad Burns is gone..think he might get thrown around like a rag doll by NFL OL’s…

  147. Trevor says:

    Fingers are crossed for Sweat or Lawrence.

    I think Giants take one of them however but if not we have a shot.

  148. Coleslaw says:

    Keep an eye on Byron Murphy.

  149. chris says:

    don’t the giants need a wr as well? or oline

  150. Volume12 says:

    NYG- ??
    Minnesota- OL
    Tennessee- WR
    Denver- QB

  151. charlietheunicorn says:

    Cody Ford realistically available… intriquing

  152. CanuckBrad says:

    Gearing up for the NFL network to go to commercial during Hawks pick…as per usual.

  153. Volume12 says:


  154. Trevor says:

    Hate the Giants 1st pick but love their 2nd pick. Was hoping we would have a chance to get Lawrence.

  155. CanuckBrad says:

    DJ mentions Ngata – drink!

  156. chris says:

    who do you guys think the vikes go with?

    • Volume12 says:

      Dillard or Ford. Then again they do avoid OL early. But it’s the one thing keeping them from winning the NFCN.

  157. Rob Staton says:

    Can’t see the Seahawks picking at #21.

  158. Volume12 says:

    Who traded up?

  159. chris says:

    Montez sweat has to be tempting for us at 21

  160. Volume12 says:

    Not the O-lineman I thought but there ya go.

  161. Justin Mullikin says:

    hey Rob, I know the Seahawks will trade back but if they had to pick who would you like at 21?

  162. Nathan W. says:

    We could get Tillery or Sweat @ 21!

  163. Bobby54 says:

    Time to trade down now

  164. Coleslaw says:

    One OL I could actually see us taking is Jawaan Taylor.

  165. Frank says:

    Please slide a couple more picks Simmons, we neeeeed you!!!

  166. Trevor says:

    Really suprised Dillard is still on the board.

  167. Volume12 says:

    WR or pass rusher here. I’ll say the 1st wideout comes off the board here though.

  168. MJL says:

    Denver should go Lock..(next)

  169. Rob Staton says:

    I think this all helps Seattle. Either Baltimore will want the only other good center left (McCoy) or they’ll want a receiver. Expect teams will want to get above them.

  170. Troy says:

    Ability to draft Sweat or trade down…you already know JS has traded the pick before you even starting thinking about it lol

  171. Nick says:


  172. KD says:

    THere still have been NO secondary players taken. That is incredible, but good news for us.

  173. Coleslaw says:

    Noah Fant at 21? I’m game.

  174. chris says:

    not our biggest need but tempting

  175. Volume12 says:

    Fant, Metcalf, Sweat, Winovich, Harry, ton of DBs, Simmons, ‘Hollywood’. A lot of talent left.

  176. charlietheunicorn says:

    Damn, that Hillsboro kid looks like a man.. at 18

  177. Volume12 says:

    Great pick.

  178. KD says:

    WOW. TEN playing the long term game.

  179. Frank says:

    Crap baskets, trade down is a must now.

  180. Michael Matherne says:

    Can we take the high school kid wearing 57?

  181. chris says:

    schnieder hasn’t been on the phone yet

  182. charlietheunicorn says:

    Come on Denver, take the QB

  183. MJL says:

    J Taylor would be tempting at #21..otherwise trade back

    • Rob Staton says:

      Apparently there are big concerns with Jawaan Taylor’s knee.

      This was from Bob McGinn’s mock draft last night:

      “Taylor has a knee issue that has concerned some teams. That and his distinct chance to bust resulted in a freefall.”

  184. Grayson says:

    Probably a trade at 21 but I’d like to see Perris Campbell selected. Pair him with Lockett on some play action.. whole lotta speed.

  185. JohnH says:

    I was really hoping Simmons would fall more. Maybe we can get Sweat?

  186. chris says:

    I think were staying put unless john traded our pick awhile ago

  187. SoCal12 says:

    Just a few minutes away from 21. Even with a likely trade back, I’m getting antsy.

  188. Volume12 says:

    Here comes Josh Jacobs for Seattle ya’ll. j/k

  189. MJL says:

    Rob had Taylor going #12 to GB..just saying… ;<)

  190. chris says:

    I haven’t seen john on the phone for a while now

  191. Coleslaw says:

    A guy in Seattle draft room is talking intensely with everyone with the draft card in hand. We’re picking at 21. Noah Fant or Montez Sweat I think.

  192. Volume12 says:

    All the WRs and all the DBs are left. Hmmm…

  193. Coleslaw says:


  194. HawksBill says:

    lot of talk on KJR radio about Sweat health

  195. Cameron says:

    Here comes our pick of Will Grier!

  196. Michael Matherne says:

    There is nothing happening in the war room. They might already have a trade worked out

  197. chris says:

    fant is off the board

  198. Justin Mullikin says:

    On the phone…

  199. J says:

    DK Metcalf in 3, 2 …

  200. charlietheunicorn says:

    Fant, Jimmy Graham 2.0 ?

  201. HawksBill says:

    JS on the phone…

  202. CHawk Talker Eric says:

    Shame about Simmons. I rather liked him, even with a medical redshirt.

  203. Cameron says:

    It’s Sweat or it’s a trade back.

    • Trevor says:

      Agree completely. Sweat or a trade back. Praying they pull the trigger on Sweat if the medical checked out.

  204. Matt says:

    Unless they feel comfortable with Sweat they should trade down.

  205. Troy says:


  206. charlietheunicorn says:

    OMG, a Seahawks 1st round pick!

    Fans don’t get to experience that every year with JS/PC. 😀

  207. chris says:

    john just threw a card in the garbage. not sure what that means lol

  208. Volume12 says:


  209. chris says:


  210. Don says:

    Commercial ……” Now we are back and Baltimore is on the clock. What do they need?”

  211. regan sayer says:

    GB trade…offcourse

  212. CHawk Talker Eric says:

    I’m shocked. Said nobody

  213. Comfect says:

    Well, we predicted ESPN at a commercial for #21, but the Seahawks aren’t picking. Hi, GB.

  214. MaxC14 says:


  215. mishima says:

    Yes! Packers come through, again.

  216. Rowdy says:

    Packers, what we get?

  217. SoCal12 says:

    Schneider’s GB connections must still run deep. I feel like we always deal with them lol.

  218. chris says:

    sweat must not be on our draft board

  219. MJL says:

    you could actually red shirt Taylor a year if it’s just a knee thing…

  220. Coleslaw says:

    Well, we know well pick at 29, cant trade out from in front of ourselves lmfao.

    We get 30 and 114 and 118. Great value!!!

  221. Volume12 says:

    ‘JoHN ElWay iS EnAmOrEd wItH DrEw LoCk’

  222. MJL says:


  223. KD says:

    So Pete, it seems, nevr had Sweat in mind. Not surprising, but I am thrilled about the trade back.

  224. chris says:

    we got 2 4th round picks

    • Michael Matherne says:

      Seems like a somewhat light return? I think our reputation as a team that loves to move down probably hurts our chances of getting true value

      • Volume12 says:

        This a team that never has 1 guy in sight. It’s always a group of players they’re comfortable selecting in a certain range.

  225. Sean Vernon says:

    That is the worst draft for Offensive talent through 20 picks I can ever remember. Weak QB’s, No RB’s, No WR’s and 2 Iowa TE’s? ha ha ha… Total joke!

  226. Volume12 says:

    JS: the cliff of talent falls off the 3rd round. Trades back and gets 2 fourths.

  227. Rob Staton says:

    The Seahawks needed picks.

    Trading down was inevitable — and they now have seven picks.

    Don’t be shocked if they trade down again.

  228. Coleslaw says:

    With how early all the DL are going, Sweats issue must be legit. He might be a day 2 or 3 guy for real.

  229. Frank says:

    Thank goodness, I was sweating bullets hoping they didn’t grab Sweat pun definitely intended.;)

  230. Dawgma says:

    Schneider would take a buy get get one half off Jimmy John’s coupon to trade back from the end of the first round.

    • Josh says:

      Agreed. The Seahawks got the 114 and 118 picks for this. Historically, those draft picks have like a 5% chance of becoming NFL starters…

  231. MaxC14 says:

    It must be a WR right?

  232. Volume12 says:

    Like that pick, but A-Rod needs weapons. Badly.

  233. HawksBill says:

    Nice move, they still have two 1sts that come with the 5th year option

  234. Lil’stink says:

    GB trades up for Savage? Wow. Cue the run onDB’s.

  235. Volume12 says:

    Ravens passed on a wideout? Woof.

  236. charlietheunicorn says:

    JS was checking his lotto tickets and tossed em in the trash can before #21.

  237. House says:

    Savage to GB? Damn…

  238. Coleslaw says:

    GB got Gary and Savage. Damn them.

  239. charlietheunicorn says:

    Late 1st round WR still in the cards for Seattle.

  240. Don says:

    Savage looks like ET 2.0. Dang, would have looked good as a Hawk

  241. KD says:

    Savage is the first DB taken so far. No CBs for far. No WRs. This is the insane part of the draft.

  242. Volume12 says:

    Yoooo!!! Seattle picks 3 times in Saturday morning? Christmas came early ya’ll.

    • Hebegbs says:

      Hawks will trade 29 and 118 to get a 2nd (41?) and a low 3rd? Then 30 and 118 to basically duplicate. 4 picks between 41 and 80 is my guess. Right where Rob has said the strength of the draft is. Go Hawks. Great job Rob I love this blog!!

  243. Salemhawk says:

    Anyone know why taylor is dropping?

  244. chris says:

    rob said knee issues

  245. Coleslaw says:

    Our draft board at the moment.


  246. charlietheunicorn says:

    Since when is 245 a little thin guy?

  247. Troy says:

    Dillard finally off the board

    • KD says:

      I’m genuinely happy for Dillard. First guy from the state to be taken. Good luck to Murphy.

  248. HawksBill says:

    im a dog fan but good for Dillard, go Cougs.

  249. David Ashton says:

    Who we gonna get guys?

  250. Volume12 says:

    If Houston don’t take Cody Ford or an O-lineman, shoot their FO into the sun.

  251. charlietheunicorn says:

    WR run will start REALLY soon

  252. Grant G says:

    Greetings from a flight to Nashville! I paid for WiFi to see the hawks trade down 4 times!!! Whoop!

  253. Cameron says:


  254. KD says:


  255. mishima says:

    After another trade down or two, feeling Chauncey Gardner-Johnson and Jaylon Ferguson.

  256. Michael Matherne says:

    Seahawks take both OSU wideouts back to back… Calling it, haha

  257. KD says:



  258. Sean Vernon says:

    Tytus who?

    Keep dropping back…..

    Three 2nds, two 3rds, Five 4’s.

  259. Rob Staton says:

    NFL Network going to advert breaks constantly at the moment.

    Very frustrating.

  260. MJL says:

    so..assuming no RW deal..would anybody have taken Lock at #21??

  261. Cameron says:

    Counting our blessings with every pick that procrastinates the run on WR’s.

  262. John_s says:

    Watching Seahawks cam, looks like they’re reviewing multiple trade cards. Looks like at least one trade down is coming

    • KD says:

      I can’t criticize the Raiders for going for a RB. I’m always a fan of building the running game, so fair play to them.

  263. Justin Mullikin says:

    Looking at the War room. Are those draft cards? What are they doing? I want to know what is going on lol

  264. Philip says:

    1st Round RB (not to the Seahawks, just saying).

  265. chris says:

    what happened to Damien harris this year ? he was a first rounder if he had come out last year.

  266. icb12 says:

    Ravens with their choice of wideout.

    Will be interesting to see who they choose for Lamar to attempt to throw the ball to

    • Sean Vernon says:

      Only receiver I want is N’Keal Harry in Rd 2. Maybe the kid from Iowa State in Rd 4.

      • icb12 says:

        I agree on Harry.

        But he goes here to the colts.
        If I was them that’s my pick.

        Harry or byron Murphy

  267. HawksBill says:

    JC working the phone hard right now

  268. KD says:


    For the Texans pick 😀

  269. regan sayer says:

    Hollywood! What a gift for BAL!

  270. charlietheunicorn says:

    Adding some spice to the Ravens offense.

  271. JohnH says:

    I hope Sweat sticks around to 29 and we trade out of 30.

    • Rob Staton says:

      If Sweat has dropped this far the concerns about his health are legit and therefore, not sure why Seattle would want him.

      • charlietheunicorn says:

        on ESPN, they inferred there is some type of hidden character issues.

      • JohnH says:

        Report came in just today saying the combine medical staff was wrong about his heart condition. Could be a real steal.

        • Rob Staton says:

          And then other people reported teams were saying… not so fast.

          Sweat got an independent doctor to say it was a misdiagnosis. There was a vested interest there.

  272. charlietheunicorn says:

    Hey Pete, you want to order some Pho or some Dim Sum? ~ JS

    *picks up stack of menu’s off of desk*

  273. Michael Matherne says:

    I’m not a fan of this band that’s been playing in the background all night, but at least they’re playing The White Stripes now

    • Volume12 says:

      I’m a hip hop/R&B/old school rock and roll, but dammit if I dont love me some Jack White and White Stripes.

      • Michael Matherne says:

        Ya he’s ridiculous. Still got it too, he was here last summer and rocked it. Really looking forward to the Black Keys tour after such break now

        • Volume12 says:

          Ooohh. Black Keys are dope too. Same with The Strokes.

        • icb12 says:

          I saw Black keys 2 years ago.
          Best concert I’ve been to.
          Gary Clark junior right behind, barely.

          Snow patrol and Chevelle come close though.

          • Michael Matherne says:

            I think Gary Clark Jr. is the best show I’ve ever been to. He’s for sure the best guitar player I’ve ever seen. Did you see the Black Keys or just Dan Auerbach? I didn’t think the Black Keys did any tours after the Turn Blue tour in 2014

  274. Volume12 says:

    Washington trading up for a wideout? Is there about to be a run on the position?

  275. Producehawk says:

    Man the people talking at the war room are tedious

  276. chris says:

    what I wouldn’t give to be a fly on the wall in the war room

  277. RWIII says:

    Guys. Do you think there is a chance that someone would trade two round picks for our 29th pick?

  278. Hawktalker#1 says:


  279. KD says:

    And there goes Sweat. great pick, but I don’t think he was the Hawks target to begin with. not upset at all about this

    • Rob Staton says:

      If they wanted him they would’ve taken him. This is all calculated. They’re moving around and getting their guys.

    • KD says:

      Kind of surprised that they didn’t go with a WR that he is comfortable with, but good news for the Hawks.

  280. JohnH says:

    A pair of seconds for 26? Dang.

    Also, darn it Redskins.

  281. David Ashton says:

    Kills me a bit to see the haul Colts got for a shorter trade down v ours

    Can anyone provide an explanation? Or just the mechanics of the draft?

  282. Volume12 says:

    Here’s the thing.

    Who did Washington jump in front of that wanted Sweat? Oakland to make up for the loss of Mack?

  283. MJL says:

    I’m guessing Raiders pick Metcalf here..because they are the Raiders

  284. Trevor says:

    That really sucks. Sweat was a shot for us to get an elite pass rusher I hope those two 4th round picks end up being worth it.

    I am guessing he must not have been on the Hawks board because they absolutely passed on him.

    • Rob Staton says:

      Don’t assume they would’ve taken him at #21 anyway.

      • Trevor says:

        True but at the very least they did not think he was a must have. They only picked up a couple of 4th round picks. Those could end up being good players though so I am going to stay positive.

    • Frank says:

      Sweat was fools gold, great athlete below average football player. My biggest concern with this draft was him or Gary ending up on the Hawks, we learned this lesson from Christen Micheal already but PC has a historically had a blind spot for Sparq freaks. The Raiders seem to be blowing it the other way, but so far my biggest loser is the Giants, but I think the Packers and Raiders have ensured their jobs are temporary as well.

  285. Trevor says:

    I pray this does not mean they are targeting Ferguson. That is my worst nightmare.

  286. JohnH says:

    So bummed we missed Sweat. He was the only elite edge we had a shot at.

    • Volume12 says:

      That’s not true at all. so many of these guys outplayed their draft position. It’s why I love day 2-3 even more.

      • JohnH says:

        Who is left that’s in the same tier as Sweat?

        • Volume12 says:

          I’d take Winovich over him. Banogu other than his length is almost identical. Omenihu. Dre’Mont Jones.

          They might like Ferguson more than the fan base.

        • Volume12 says:

          D’Andre Walker. Maxx Crosby.

          These guys might not be the same tier, but offer better value. And that’s what it’s all about.

  287. KD says:


  288. Volume12 says:

    Good pick for Oakland, but they need offensive weapons too.

    • icb12 says:

      They pick again in 7 slots and there’s only been 1 WR leave the board.
      Plus it’s a deep TE class.

      They could potentially get mclaurin, Harry, Metcalf, brown, Campbell
      And then pick a TE in Rd 4

  289. charlietheunicorn says:

    Seattle might draft Cody Ford… fits their physical profile they like in OL/OG.

    • charlietheunicorn says:

      I also would love to see the fan reaction to an early OL draft pick ^.^

      • 805Hawk says:

        I’m tired of the sky is falling reactions. For once, I’d love no some happy twitter reactions.

  290. Jake says:

    No pass rusher? Damn our defense is gonna be bottom 10. Won’t even be surprised.

    • Volume12 says:

      Maybe a pass rusher, maybe not. Round 3 is loaded. And if so many ‘great’ rushers are already off the board it’s gonna push some into round 4.

  291. Trevor says:

    Mayock is drafting the type of guys he loved when commenting.

    Ferrell, Jacobs and Abram are all big time culture guys. Good for the Raiders.

  292. Sean Vernon says:

    Bummer. Wanted Sweat bad….

  293. Trevor says:

    I don’t see any more must have guys on the board. Would like the Hawks to trade back into the 2nd with both picks now so they can get more lottery tickets.

  294. Tecmo Bowl says:

    Cody Ford would fit well.

  295. Tony says:

    More trade back please!

    Tons of options!

  296. SoCal12 says:

    Lots of activity in the War Room. Wonder what the hubub is about.

  297. Coach says:

    Trade back again with both picks and get Ferguson and Harry in the second and Winovich in the 3rd!

    Go Hawks!!

  298. CaptainJack says:

    Seahawks screwed up

  299. Troy says:

    Pretty disappointing that we traded away Clark and didn’t grab any of the really good Dline options available…hopefully we get somebody like Winovich that can manufacture some pass rush

  300. OaklandHawk says:

    I’m guessing Cody Ford and Chauncey Gardner-Johnson. Not necessarily at #29, #30 but they seem like two players Seattle could use.

  301. MJL says:

    here we go…

  302. Trevor says:

    Anyone but Ferguson please. Sounds like a great kid but I hope he is not what they are pinning thier pass rush hopes on.

  303. SoCal12 says:

    What’s the call here guys?

  304. Sean Vernon says:

    I loved the last 3 picks. Sweat, Abrams, Tillery….

    Oh well… What’s left? Anyone pick me up w some hype?

  305. RWIII says:

    Guys. Don’t sweat. That Sweat went to Washington.

  306. Volume12 says:

    The sky ain’t falling guys.

    • Trevor says:

      It is always falling on the night of round #1 for the Hawks fans you know that Vol 🙂

  307. 6x2 stack monster says:

    OL. McGary! I’m a Fife guy!

  308. Michael Matherne says:

    Billy Ray Cyrus sure is getting a lot of run on this broadcast. Is he to Tennessee as Prince was to Minnesota?

  309. JohnH says:

    They really do go to commercial every time we pick.

  310. Coach says:

    I’d be shocked if they don’t trade back – down to 3 minutes left now with their pick. They are listening to offers for sure!

  311. SoCal12 says:

    Oh shit theyre calling….

  312. Spireite_Seahawk says:

    Can we go over 10 mins if we are next up?

  313. Volume12 says:

    Metcalf is still sitting there? Harry, Deebo, Parris Campbell

    CJG, Thornhill, Adderley

    Omenihu, Ferguson, Winovich,

    Cody Ford, McGary

  314. Michael (CLT) says:

    D’Andre Walker please

  315. Frank says:

    Come on, just grab Tillery and be great full they didn’t end up with Sweat.

  316. Sean Vernon says:

    The trade for Sheldon Richardson is coming back to haunt us. Lost our 2nd rd and causing to drop further down that I’d like to see Sweat, Abrams and Tillery all off the board.

    We need to replace Ifedi at RT but do we do it now or later?
    We need a pass rusher. We need a WR. We need another CB.


    • Hawktalker#1 says:

      Can we please stop with all the Sheldon Richardson lost pick complaining already? I don’t know how long this has to go on . . . That ship has sailed.

  317. Tony says:

    People gotta stop panicking lol. Tons of good players available.

  318. KD says:


  319. HawksBill says:

    Hugh Millen is pumping DK M

  320. Volume12 says:

    Gonna be one of these guys still there or will it be considered a ‘reach?’

  321. SoCal12 says:

    Here we go.

  322. Fudwamper says:


    They still have all the time of pick 30 to trade. I bet that is messing with people.

  323. Frank says:

    That hurt to miss on Simmons and the consolation prize Tillery as well. Anthony is our only chance to improve the Dline now, but wherever we trade down too the team right before us will grab him.

  324. So Seattle actually makes a pick… WR?

  325. Michael Matherne says:

    It’s hilarious how much Rich Eisen hates the band

  326. KD says:


    • Volume12 says:

      Boy. For a team with 2 firsts, as of now, they sure are milking this.

      Your killing the PNW and Hawks fans everywhere NFL!!!

  327. AlaskaHawk says:

    Time really can stop on TV

  328. HawksBill says:

    big surprise, Hawks pick is in…. commercial

  329. Fudwamper says:

    Anyone know the real time left? ESPN can’t figure this out.

  330. Trevor says:

    Is it just my mind or is this taking forever?

    • Volume12 says:

      Nah. It’s ridiculous. IDK why we had to watch Christian Wilkins dunk on folks or whatever the f*** he was doing. Talking about the Power Rangers probably.

  331. Mark Souza says:

    You realize the Hawks have been on the clock 3 times and ESPN has gone to commercial break each time. I get the feeling they don’t care for us.

  332. chris says:

    I have a feeling this pick is gonna come out of left field!

  333. Coleslaw says:

    Pick is in yall! Let’s go! In PCJS we trust always remember.

  334. Nathan W. says:

    whoa we picked!

  335. Dog says:

    Campbell? Or K’Neal?

  336. Producehawk says:

    Longest pick is in I have ever seen. Maybe they will do both at once!

  337. Attyla the Hawk says:

    Seeing Collier

  338. charlietheunicorn says:


    I think it has been 15 minutes of straight commercials.

  339. Trevor says:

    Maybe Pete has decided we have the highest paid QB lets out score everyone.

    DK Metcalf and Paris Campbell back to back. Kidding

  340. MJL says:

    they traded #30…

  341. KD says:


  342. Volume12 says:

    Good pick, but a reach.

  343. Aaron says:

    LJ Collier BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!! BOOM!!!!!!!!

  344. charlietheunicorn says:



  345. HawksBill says:

    is LJ a !st rounder?

  346. KD says:

    From the previous thread, who bet on the first pick? I picked LJ, BOW BEFORE ME!

    • SoCal12 says:

      You definitely got it! Congrats on the bragging rights!

      • KD says:

        Best part about this: I gave a co-worker a list of 4 positions, and 1 player at each position:

        WR: Terry mcClaurin
        S: Juan Thornhill
        DE: LJ Collier
        DT: Trystin Hill

        I’ just happy that I am now the draft god at my workplace.

  347. Volume12 says:

    His athletic profile was never that bad for his position.

  348. Hawktalker#1 says:

    Sweet sweet sweet. Great #29 pick.

  349. Trevor says:

    Typical Hawks pick. I really like the player but thought he was a 2nd rounder. Guess he was the guy they wanted and I can’t complain about that. Seems like a good kid too.

  350. MJL says:

    we get 2.5 tomorrow…

  351. regan sayer says:

    Love the pick! Kid is twitched up!

  352. HawksBill says:

    What did we get for #30?

  353. MJL says:

    plus 5.4 it looks like

  354. chris says:

    every pick they make seems like a reach according to most

  355. Trevor says:

    Rob you should be a Hawks scout as you clearly think alike. I know Collier was one of your favourites

  356. H says:

    I like Collier a lot, there are other guys I’d have preferred, but he does fit.

  357. Justin Mullikin says:

    If Rob thinks he is a badass then I’m super excited for this pick! Great work Rob, go Hawks!

  358. TomLPDX says:

    After all that we only get 4th and 5th round picks? JS said there is a dropoff after 3 so we load up on 4th and 5th round picks? I don’t get it. Good night you guys…hopefully tomorrow is a better day.

    • Comfect says:

      There’s always the possibility of a Tyler Lockett-style trade of 4ths for a 3rd later.

  359. Trevor says:

    I could see the Hawks taking his teammate Banogu at some point tomorrow as well.

  360. HawksBill says:

    Don’t know much about LJ, Tony Softly had him in the 3rd round

  361. John_s says:

    I got a trade with the Giants right but it was to get Daniel Jones lol

  362. Volume12 says:

    They liked that TCU program this draft season didn’t they?

  363. Trevor says:

    JS ends up with this traditional 8 pick allotment.

  364. Absolutely love your comment on LJ Collier Rob … it takes the sting of seeing some of the other top players off the board. Go Hawks!

    • MJL says:

      “closest thing to Michael Bennett in this draft”..I’ll take it…

      see you guys tomorrow

  365. charlietheunicorn says:


  366. Paul Cook says:

    Okay…WTF are our picks now? LOL

  367. Volume12 says:

    NE stays playing chess ya’ll.

  368. Aaron says:

    710 ESPN has no idea who LJ Collier is and even Danny O’Neil said he wasn’t on the radar in his mind. So thankful for SDB. Saw Collier at the Senior Bowl and fell in love with him.

  369. Tecmo Bowl says:

    #21 for #37, 114, 118, 132, 142

    Not bad.

  370. BobbyK says:

    This is the anti-Malik McDowell pick.

  371. H says:

    And the Seahawks can’t select Harry! Best news of the night.

  372. KD says:

    I absolutely LOVE this pick. Collier does not fit the profile that the Hawks usually go for, but he is a f***ing pit bull when it comes to rushing the passer. Powerful, relentless, aware. Fantastic pick.

    Just for the record:

  373. Tk says:

    Hugh Millen is digusted by this pick. No one had this guy even close to the first round

    • Volume12 says:

      A lot like the Penny pick. Except he won’t be the backup to the backup. Joking. Relax.

    • mishima says:

      Is Hugh Millen employed?

    • John_s says:

      Which means it will be a great pick

    • Group captain mandrake says:

      If I remember correctly, Hugh didn’t like the frank clark pick either.

    • lil’stink says:

      Millen also trashed the Frank Clark pick, and not because of the DV issue. He didn’t think Clark was much of a player.

      Whatever football knowledge Millen possesses I don’t think much of it transfers to the draft and selecting players.

  374. Volume12 says:

    Seattle got their 5-tech. Biggest need but he tcan also slide inside and rush from the 3 too. That might be more important.

    • charlietheunicorn says:

      PC specifically said he could see him play anywhere along the line, especially in pass rushing situations.

  375. charlietheunicorn says:

    1.29 – LJ Collier

  376. Hawksince77 says:

    Seahawk 2019 draft picks (so far):


    • KD says:

      First time time in a while where i am not scratching my head. This was a fantastic pick. I absolutely love it. Collier is a frikin bull dog! He engages with strength and quickness. He goes in hard and agressive on every play. I absolutely love this pick.

      A+ for me.

  377. Tk says:

    It isn’t about if lj isn’t going to be a good player, it’s about draft position and value.. who can legit day he wouldn’t have been there at 37

  378. Sean Vernon says:

    Has all of these trade backs ever really worked? I look at the past 5 years of the draft and to me, it hasn’t worked at all and reason we’re in this decent state.

    I loved what Atlanta did. They targeted OL and grabbed a guard and tackle. Beautiful picks.

    The players that we picked well were draft picks that we moved UP for not back. Maybe Clark but that was off field.

    Jarron Reed was a trade up and wasn’t Tyler Lockett a trade up target?

    2017 draft is a disappointment. 2016 draft? 2015? 2014? I just think from Rd’s 1 – 4 during that era, we haven’t been good with the trade backs. Oh well… Maybe it changes in 2019.

    • Davison Phipps says:

      Reed and Lockett were both trade ups, but those were made possible because the Seahawks had a bunch of picks available to trade (acquired by trading down). I would not be a bit surprised to see Schneider turn some of those 4th rounders into a 3rd.

  379. JohnH says:

    Anyone find it disconcerting that the highlight reel for the OL two picks after ours showed a clip of him dominating Collier? Lol, I know it doesn’t mean anything but not reassuring.

    • Volume12 says:

      No because TCU had him play outta position like most college schemes.

      There’s a reason he popped on tv down at the SR bowl.

      This is a dude that’s gonna set an EDGE and play with one. On money downs you line him up at 3-tech.

    • Volume12 says:

      He does come with risk. Close to 25 and doesn’t have great agility.

  380. Nathan W. says:

    9 pick overall. Interesting to see what we’ll do with those fourths. Might hop back into the third with the fourths or stay pat and pad the roster with some depth and contributors

  381. Michael Matherne says:

    Weird that they chose to draft with #29 and trade #30 instead of the other way around. Wouldn’t the rookie wage scale mean they could have saved a few bucks by doing the opposite of that?

    • SoCal12 says:

      I mean if you’re trading with us for 29 that means you’re trading up to beat… ourselves to the podium? I don’t think a team would do that lol.

  382. Coleslaw says:

    I have my fingers crossed for Byron Murphy or Juan Thornhill at 37. I’d take another DL or a WR like Deebo, McLaurin or Campbell

  383. Paul Cook says:

    There are times that I wonder if the Hawks get too cute in the draft for their own good. But they do always put a competitive team on the field. I’ve got to give them that. LJ Collier? I can’t honestly say that I know much of anything about him. They must have seen something. Time will tell.

  384. Frank says:

    Ok, not good value and certainly will never be a great player, but I’ve seen the Hawks blow the first round more often than not and this time they at least got a ok player that will be a league average Dline player. Good anchor against the run, and is only a few cheeseburgers away from being a down tackle with some ability to rush. Will be interesting lined up at tackle beside Reed on third down, but still need a Clark/Avril replacement.

  385. KD says:

    Seattle Seahawks: L.J. Collier, DE, TCU D+ Grade
    “I thought the Seahawks would be on the clock for the 2020 NFL Draft by the time they made this pick. And it’s not a good one at that. Daniel Jeremiah just mentioned that L.J. Collier was his 56th-ranked player, and that matches my projection, as I had him No. 58. This is yet another reach in the 2019 NFL Draft. Collier was just a 1-year starter at TCU and just seems to be a solid rotational defensive end who thrives against the run. Seattle should have moved down and selected Collier or someone similar, though to the team’s credit, it already traded down twice.”

    As I said, I like Walter, be he can be a bit emotionally involved in his own draft board.

    • SoCal12 says:

      I like the content of Walter’s website but I cant stand the guy’s personality and how full of himself he is. He’s like the uncle who thinks he’s way funnier than he actually is, and thinks he’s right about everything.

      • KD says:

        Totally agree. Though I think Walter is a good guy and gets good info, he does get too personal with regards to his own opinions. Which is why i find his draft grades funny.

    • Volume12 says:

      It’s not great value and I like Collier a lot.

      • Kenny Sloth says:

        I would’ve loved him a half round later

        Remember when Bruce Irvin was a reach until we learned the Jets were about to take him in the first and most teams considered him the best pass rusher available that year.

    • MyChestIsBeastmode says:

      Good. Reminds me of the Russel draft when we got a flat out F from most pundits. In hindsight RW and BWagz weren’t too shabby. Time will tell, but here’s hoping Collier balls out and we can watch the national (and local) pundits eat crow.

  386. HawksBill says:

    No one had a 1st round grade on him, so a business as usual for an early pick for the hawks.

  387. Sean Vernon says:

    When you look at the past drafts through 2013, we actually haven’t been that great.

    Best selections were JReed & TLockett and both were trade ups, not trade downs. Clark fell to us but otherwise….

    I love Flowers and hope he comes on. T2 and Shaq have upside, too. Otherwise, what have we drafted in past 5 yrs?

    • Tony says:

      Wow you’re right! Theres like hardly any potential HOF’s! Solid drafts net starters and role players. Super amazing awesome drafts net HOF players with game wrecking ability. Cant expect that everytime. Hawks process is good, and they target who they like.

  388. Paul Cook says:

    The Hawks have never equaled Earl Thomas and Russell Okung in the first round. And that was Schneider’s and Carrol’s first, wasn’t it? In that first round, they actually picked the big named/blue chips that were there to be had.

  389. neil says:

    I think I would have preferred taking Montaze Sweat at 21 and trading the 29th to the Giants. Edge rush was # 1 priority. We would have lost 2 4th round picks, but Sweat was one of the best in the draft. As far as I know his medical condition was misdiagnosed at the combine, and we got a 2nd and 5th from the Giants anyway.

    • Paul Cook says:

      I was kind of thinking Sweat myself there, too. But what do I know? I had no idea lj was such a stud.

    • Hawktalker#1 says:

      I was thinking the same thing myself.

      However if the difference between Collier and Sweat is not huge, we might be better off the way we are now.

  390. Ely says:

    John Schneider: big cliff after the 3rd round…
    Also John Schneider: let’s trade for as many 4th round picks as we can!

    • Volume12 says:

      That cracks me up so much I can’t even tell you.

      Maybe they come up in the 3rd for someone, but I hope it ‘s him seeing the board fall a big into the 4th round.

    • Lying season … not sure whether Schnieder was telling the truth about the cliff. At this stage I will wait and see how the rest of the draft goes.. then watch and see how the picks fit in during training camp and into the season. I have huge respect for Pete an how he integrates players into the lineup and John is a top notch talent evaluator and GM. What I am somewhat surprised about is that the Hawks seem to be moving away from some sparky players and combine results and looking more at tape and how the players actually play than just their measurables.

    • charlietheunicorn says:

      He was referring to DL prospects specifically. I doubt he said their were not great prospects at other positions, such as CB, OL or WR.

  391. Volume12 says:

    Let us never forget. Dave Gettleman galaxy brained himself.

    Traded arguably one of if not the best Nose tackle in the league last year and then swapped OBJ for a… what’s that you say? Nose tackle. 😂😂😂

    Dumpster fire.

  392. Paul Cook says:

    Sometimes I get this gnawing feeling that the Hawks think they know more than anyone else about the overlooked players in the draft.

  393. BobbyK says:

    They needed a DL and got one. Problem is the DL is still worse today than it was a week ago. More work to do but Schneider did say he loved the DL depth in this draft and said it’ll be good through the end of the 3rd round (then a big drop-off). That means they should be adding another DL later tomorrow.

    This leads me to believe it’s time for an Ohio State WR early tomorrow. Or perhaps another trade down and still getting their receiver.

    I like the trades down because now they have picks for other spots we haven’t talked about as much such as getting a guard. Currently, we have two starters who are older, with injury history, and not signed long-term and a solid back-up who is injury prone (and a back-up who seems to be a second round bust). Would be good to get a (potentially) good guard with one of those fourth round picks.

    They are getting younger which always translates into getting hungrier, too (which really benefitted them this past year). If they play their cards right, they can right this ship in terms of being legit SB contenders again (not simply contenders to be good and maybe make the playoffs – how spoiled we’ve become, right?).

    • Volume12 says:

      They do their best work on day 2-3. If anyone needs proof look at their 5th and 6th round picks last year.

      All-pro caliber punter, a high ceiling LEO who came on like gangbusters in the last quarter of the season when most teams are playing their best ball, and a college safety who they converted to corner that had no business being as good as he was year 1.

      • BobbyK says:

        You don’t think I know that?

        • Volume12 says:


          Of course I do. I highly respect your opinion and writing. I was agreeing with you and probably shoulda put ‘for people who don’t think they do their best work on day 2-3.

  394. Hawktalker#1 says:


    Shouldn’t this: Pick #30 was traded to the New York Giants for #132 & #142
    Read: Pick #30 was traded to the New York Giants for #37 & #132 & #142?

    Might also need to update your list of current picks as well.

    Nice work!!!

  395. CaptainJack says:

    I’m super disapointed with the returns of the tradebacks. Collier isn’t as good as Clark.

    • Tony says:

      Clark = 10+ sacks last 3 yrs.
      Collier = 0 sacks in his whole NFL career!

      This checks out.

    • Volume12 says:

      No one in this draft is my man. Time my tell, but it’s gonna be a #’s game to replace him. At least for now.

    • Madmark says:

      I think they took the best deals that were offered and to be honest we get Collier and 2nd next year for Clark and still working our first round for more picks. It works for me.

    • Lil’stink says:

      That’s not how this works, though.

  396. Paul Cook says:

    The Hawks really love and are committed to that competition thing. They are always bringing in a bunch of young and hungry and overlooked players and coaching them up to compete with each other. I have to say, in all fairness, it’s worked out well for them and us fans.

    • CaptainJack says:

      Finding late round gems is fantastic.

      Blowing the first round year after year is not.

      • Paul Cook says:

        The Hawks are just not the sexy draft pickers near the top of the draft board. They do the later rounds better than most all teams, however. They have their formula. And it has worked. It just hasn’t been buzz worthy at the top of the draft board since Thomas and Okung.

        • Tk says:

          The idea we do great late round work is antiquated. There is a reason we lose all our preseason games now, we have no debth and that is due to years of sub par drafting. It wasn’t the case in years 1-3. We have done a good job with our high d line picks, so here’s hoping. I don’t dislike the player, I dislike the spot we picked him in and the fact we could have had sweat. Getting a bunch of late round picks when even js says the talent drops of after 3 seems odd

    • neil says:

      Young and hungry is great, but most times it does not replace true talent.

  397. CaptainJack says:

    I can’t belive how cutesy the hawks have become. They gamble to get sweat but end up with a short fat and slow DE who is more of a run stopper.


    • Jake says:

      Your posts are embarrassing

      • CaptainJack says:

        Spare me the drama and salt.

        Either explain why you disagree, or don’t say anything. The personal attacks don’t belong here.

    • SamL says:

      What are you talking about? If they wanted sweat they would have taken him. Collier was obviously the target. Don’t despair before you even see him play.

    • Dregur says:

      After what Chris Mortensen said about how Sweat reacts to coaching (doesn’t like getting shouted at) from Sweat’s own line coach at Mississippi State, it made perfect sense why he dropped so far, and why the Seahawks didn’t draft him at 21.

      • CaptainJack says:

        He’s a freakishly long and fast defensive linemen who had great production and blew up the combine.

        He fell because of a seriously freaky medical concern.

        • Dregur says:

          You’re still ignoring the fact that it looks like there were character concerns. Also, Collier’s pressure rate was at the same level as Sweat.

          How many times has a freakishly long and fast defensive lineman in college failed to impress in the NFL?

        • Hawktalker#1 says:

          Before the draft started it was stated that the medical concern was false and he was cleared. There was no medial concern remaining at the start of the draft.

    • Kenny Sloth says:

      Captain Jack woulda 100 percent taken Ben Banogu instead.

      Collier’s tape is awesome. He was a beast. Everybody short fat slow when you a stan for Sweat

  398. Fudwamper says:

    There it was, Pete mentioned L.J’s pressure percentage and 5 technique ability.

    • charlietheunicorn says:

      and complexity of defense he played in…..

      • Frank says:

        He wasn’t a man crush for me at all, but I definitely understand the pick. We had Bryant and Clemons then Bennet and Avril, and once we had them both on Contract we Drafted Clark, half because he fell to us and half because he could equally spell our 5 technique and our Leo. The price tag for Clark was insanely high, and the draft capital we got back was vary good. It’s costs less to have guys that can only play Leo or 5 tech by a lot and of scheme supported just as effective ala Clemons’s and Bennet. The interesting thing to me, is he seems like overlap with Green who had a promising preseason last year, but both can play Dt or De so maybe it’s not a total lack of faith in Green. They obviously have more faith in Martin or have someone in mind they know they’ll have the opportunity to draft as a true Leo that they really like than I expected.

  399. Gohawks5151 says:

    Really late to the party but I have a good reason. I got to be honest once I heard Burns, Ferrel and Gary were off the board I thought we would be out of the first round. However I can’t be happier than the pick of Collier. He has awesome speed to power. There are times where he kind of reminds me of Jevon Kearse. Day definitely got one of their guys. I can’t wait for tomorrow. Hopefully they find a way to get Gardner Johnson and Walker. Oh and go do yourselves a favor and go watch avengers end game. It’s amazing

    • Matt says:

      Collier is a 9th Percentile athlete. Not sure where you see the speed part of the equation.

      • Kenny Sloth says:

        Transition speed to power is a technical trait not got to do with athleticism per se

  400. Paul Cook says:

    I honestly did feel that they gave up on Glowinski too soon. Water under the bridge.

  401. Paul Cook says:

    The bottom line is this. Will we be 10-6 or better and make the playoffs next year, and will we be a Super Bowl competitive in the following two years barring catastrophic injuries? If they pull this off, you can’t argue with their approach. The proof will be in the pudding. Time will tell.

  402. laphroaig says:

    Good job, Rob! You nailed it with the Collier pick.

    • Paul Cook says:

      He was pretty top-notch, I thought. It got dicey after about the 24th pick or so. It really became a a beauty in the eyes of the beholder thing.

  403. Madmark says:

    JS said there was adrop in talent after the 3round and it appears he was right cause all the others teams know it to and only offer 4th and 5th rounders.

  404. Volume12 says:

    VMAC visit or known connection with the 1st pick. Let’s see if the first pick tomorrow is someone they weren’t connected too as is usually the case.

  405. Frank says:

    Who are the best Leo’s left?

  406. Paul Cook says:

    As a big Husky fan, I just thought it was great to see Kaleb McGary get picked in the first round. Good on him. He always struck me as a grateful sort.

  407. Matt says:

    Wish I could get pumped about a 24 year old DE whose ceiling is probably around 6 sacks/year. This team continues to utterly sh*t the bed when it comes to value with their top picks. It’s becoming embarrassing.

    I will get raked over the coals on this, but this team has to do better at the beginning of the draft. Ifedi – McDowell – Penny – Collier…not good enough. This FO continues to take a $100 Bill and turn it into $70 of ones. “Yea, but look how many bills we got?!”

    Here’s the catch, I really like Collier – but a non-pass rushing 5T in R1 for a 4-3 team is just stupid. He is a 9th percentile athlete…let’s hope he bucks every trend and truly is Michael Bennett. Their first round drafting is like their play style – looking for the smallest margin of error and hope to hold on. Very frustrating to watch.

    • Tk says:

      I agree with you. I prefer quality over quantity

      • Matt says:

        I unequivocally believe their #1 problem is getting too cute in R1. Like they have to nail the exact position they want a guy…and every year they seem to have to settle for someone. I think they clearly got burned this year…they dropped too low and missed out on the true pass rushing talent; which is why we settle for Collier – a player I like that has no business in R1.

        The problem is that their late round prowess is disappearing. Take away Russell Wilson and this team under PC/JS is probably a perennial 6-7 win team. The roster is lacking way too much high end talent to settle on someone like Collier. Very frustrating.

        • Don says:

          You nailed it exactly. I agree. Take away RW and they would be 6-8 win team, full of a lot of average rated players.

    • Dawgma says:

      Dead on. No team in the draft gets less production out of their top pick, year after year. The FO got lucky in mid rounds in a few consecutive drafts and massively value their biggest assets as a result.

      If you’re sure you’re the smartest guy in the room, you’re probably the sucker. And at this point, their run of absolute, laughable, pathetic drafting at the back end of the first round should have roundly convonced them that no, they aren’t actually out smarting the entire rest of the league.

    • Del tre says:

      His pressure percentage is 20%. Bennett wasn’t an all time great athlete either. This guy has a good second move and the exact attitude the Seahawks like. He had more sacks and tackles for loss than Gary who went at 12. Measurables are great but really only go so far, most NFL tackles are going to stop your first move.
      You act like they knew Malik McDowell was a bust when you have no idea the quality of NFL player he’d be.
      Ifedi is a solid starting right tackle, who was taken when the team had a different coaching staff and idea of what they wanted from prospects.
      Penny has been in the league for one year and had a decent season considering he was held on the bench and started the season injured.
      I get the temptation to be frustrated at the lack of all pro selections but you’re ignoring Lockett, Flowers, Clark (who is the only other linemen they have taken this early other than McDowell and was a complete stud).
      Seems like a pretty negative take on a team that just went to the playoffs, retained nearly every important piece, and gained 4 draft picks while still grabbing the guy they wanted.

    • Kenny Sloth says:



  408. Volume12 says:

    So Collier and Green at 5 according to Pete. Martin and a rookie tomorrow or day at LEO?

    • Volume12 says:

      Hahaha. JS said the board went according to plan and they don’t like that.

    • Volume12 says:

      Pete said the depth on the WRs and Safeties let them wait on those positions.

    • charlietheunicorn says:

      This could be a spot where a guy, such as Perry, could be brought in to play the position.
      Pick up a veteran player for a modest amount of cash. Then in 2020, dive into the draft with both feet to find their guy for LEO long-term.

    • CHawk Talker Eric says:

      Germaine Pratt at 92?

  409. Ryan H says:

    Please explain the difference between Collier and Rasheem Green. Last year when we drafted Green all the pundits told me he was a year early from being an impact player, and if he stayed in school he would have been a first rounder this year. So now we have two high draft picks that play the exact same position, without having seen what Green can develop into. I think a first rounder is a high price to pay to hedge our bet at 5 tech.

    • Rob Staton says:

      Green isn’t the same type of player. Could easily move inside full time. Much more of a classic inside/out. Collier is a base-end who may end up kicking inside but it’ll be more like Bennett.

  410. Volume12 says:

    Draft clue:

    ‘Can’t help myself’ the four tops.

    They have 4 picks in the 4th round. They just couldn’t help themselves?

  411. schuemansky says:

    And with their first pick the Seahawks select …. Pressure Percentage!
    It still strucks me after all these years that Rob seems to be the only one that listens carefully when PCJS speak.
    By the way, Rob, after your well-deserved holidays from SDB after the draft why not writing an article on how pressure percentage translated to the NFL over the last years. I guess PCJS did their analysis already.

  412. Coleslaw says:

    1.29. L.J. Collier DL
    2.37. Irv Smith Jr. TE
    3.92. Trysten Hill DT
    4.114. Ben Banogu DE
    4.118. Marvell Tell NCB
    4.124. Gary Jennings WR
    4.132. Dru Samia OG
    5.142. Greg Gaines DT
    5.159. Derrek Thomas CB

    • charlietheunicorn says:

      2.37 – WR Parris Campbell
      4.124 – RB/FB Trevon Wesco

      Otherwise, I dig the draft you posted.

  413. Frank says:

    I really hope they go back to Dline, whether Ferguson or Bango, I really enjoyed D’Andre Walker tape, thanks V12. I didn’t realize Ferguson hadn’t been picked yet, I’d feel pretty solid about how we are replacing Clark’s production if that happens.

  414. Shadow says:

    PFF SEA Seahawks

    L.J. Collier had 54 total pressures last season, ranking 9th out of 231 qualifying Power 5 edge defenders. #Seahawks

  415. Frank says:

    Gotta love the 6-2 283, that’s a big compact man who won’t be getting out leveraged in the run game either.

  416. clbradley17 says:

    Tony Pauline and several other draft websites kept mentioning all week of Senior Bowl practices that Collier dominated the one-on-ones.

    Practice player of the week LT Chuma Odega said Collier was the best player he faced in the one-on-ones, very active with a variety of moves.

    “Collier lined up at both end and tackle on Tuesday and got wins from both spots. He was very active all day.”

    “TCU defensive end L.J. Collier helped himself with a strong opener on Tuesday. Collier was a good run defender for the Horned Frogs last season, but he showed some nice pass rush in the one-on-ones. He used his strength to push Washington right tackle Kaleb McGary into the turf and then closed on the quarterback to get one win. Collier manhandled Kansas State’s Dalton Risner for another win.”

    Collier was the most productive lineman at the Senior Bowl, notching two sacks and two tackles for loss, totaling 36 yards lost for the opposing offense. He also forced a fumble.

    • Kenny Sloth says:

      “I believe I’m the best defensive lineman in the draft and I’ve shown that,” Collier said. “I’ve shown that at the senior bowl with the best of the best. The best offensive linemen in the country — I ran through them and around them. I think I proved everything I needed to prove.”

      The Senior Bowl made me a fan, but after the combine I went back to watch Banogu and THE ONLY PRESSURE HE GOT WAS CREATED BY COLLIER MOVING THE QB OFF HIS SPOT.

      Collier isn’t Frank Clark

  417. Kenny Sloth says:

    “I hate LJ Collier. I know he’s terrible and Seattle’s FO is too. My expectations are paramount to our success. We need a sexy flashy player and a good grade from Mel Kiper to succeed. I know everything about LJ Collier and can literally see the future. I know better than these professionals. If our first round pick isn’t a hall of famer I’m gonna deface the offices at the VMAC”


    • Kenny Sloth says:

      Look. I get it. You wanted a 1.5 10 yard split.

      You spent all year coveting the top 5 DEs in the draft and overrating everyone else that fit your profile of what we’re looking for.

      We took the guy we wanted. He has an obvious fit.

      If you really think you’re better at the draft than John Schneider then all I can tell ya is don’t break an arm j***ing yourself off

      • Tk says:

        You build depth by drafting g
        BPA, we are constantly only drafting for need. And we reach when doing so. No one would have an issue if he had been a second round selection