Headlines
— The Seahawks trade down with the Packers, moving from #21 to #30
— They acquired two fourth round picks from Green Bay (#114, #118)
— They spent the #29 pick on TCU defensive end L.J. Collier
— Pick #30 was traded to the New York Giants for #132 & #142
— They now possess nine total picks
Welcome to the live blog, I’ll be posting thoughts on every pick as they come in. After the first round I’ll write a review and we’ll be recording a podcast.
Join in via the comments section but please — no tipping picks.
#1 Arizona — Kyler Murray (QB, Oklahoma)
On January 3rd I wrote an article saying the Cardinals should take Kyler Murray first overall. He’s the most talented player in the draft. He has the same magic as Patrick Mahomes. The Cardinals needed to make the most of this pick and I believe they did. Now they need to try and get value for Josh Rosen.
#2 San Francisco — Nick Bosa (DE, Ohio State)
What makes Nick Bosa ‘special’? Simple. He’s 266lbs and ran a 4.14 short shuttle. That’s incredible agility to work the edge and it shows. Some players just look better than everyone else in college. Nick Bosa fits that category. He’s a complete defensive end and the NFC West just got a lot better with Bosa and Kyler Murray.
#3 New York Jets — Quinnen Williams (DT, Alabama)
It feels like a long time ago now but Williams absolutely destroyed the SEC in 2018. He was a one-man show some weeks. He was an absolute terror against LSU — a game where it’s often difficult to stand out with both teams grinding through running plays. He battered Elgton Jenkins at Mississippi State.
#4 Oakland — Clelin Ferrell (DE, Clemson)
Well, I had the Raiders trading up to get Ferrell in my mock. I didn’t anticipate they’d make this call here. However — here are some things to remember. Going into the year a lot of people, myself included, considered Ferrell a possible top-five pick. They want tone-setters and leaders. That’s Ferrell. He’s an alpha.
#5 Tampa Bay — Devin White (LB, LSU)
He was recruited to be the next Leonard Fournette at running back. He ended up at linebacker and there are three key points to his game. First — he’s a natural leader. Second — he runs a 4.42. Third — he sets a tone and is highly physical.
#6 New York Giants — Daniel Jones (QB, Duke)
Like most other people I mocked Daniel Jones to the Giants albeit at #17. If you identify a quarterback and have the conviction that he’s great — take the guy. Jones is athletic and has functional skills. Is anything outstanding about his game? Not yet.
#7 Jacksonville — Josh Allen (EDGE, Kentucky)
There are things to really like about Allen. His pressure percentage of 29.1% was by far the best in college football in 2018 (the next best mark was 23.5%). He’s an intelligent pass rusher who sets up blockers. He also had some rough games where he was targeted in the run game or handled by tight ends.
#8 Detroit — T.J. Hockenson (TE, Iowa)
This is an outstanding pick. Hockenson’s going to play a long time in the league. He’s a sensational blocker, he makes big plays in the passing game and he dominates against safety’s and linebackers at the second level. This was a no-brainer for Detroit. Exceptional choice.
#9 Buffalo — Ed Oliver (DT, Houston)
He’s fast, explosive and he plays with great effort. Here’s the issue. He has 31 3/4 inch arms and he’s 6-2 and 287lbs. Where do you play him? He could get smothered inside. He lacks the length for DE and the Bills are an orthodox 4-3 so he’s not a five-technique. Love the quickness but this carries some risk. He only had a pressure percentage of 9.6%.
#10 Pittsburgh (via Denver) — Devin Bush (LB, Michigan)
The Steelers trade up from #20 to #10, giving up a second round pick (#52) and a 2020 third rounder. I had the Broncos trading down to #23 in my mock. Bush runs and hits with incredible intensity. This is a classic AFC North pick. He runs a 4.43 and will replace Ryan Shazier who they miss so much.
#11 Cincinnati — Jonah Williams (T, Alabama)
I think he’s overrated. He’s a marginal athlete and his best position might be center (they took a center in round one a year ago). Williams has a fantastic attitude, approach and he’s A-star in terms of character. It’s tough playing O-line at the next level though if you lack power, length and agility. He ran an 8.01 short shuttle and a 4.79 short shuttle.
#12 Green Bay — Rashan Gary (DE, Michigan)
So much for Gary lasting to the Seahawks at #21. There’s been far too much negativity about him recently. It’s funny how some guys just get targeted like that. Jim Harbaugh loved him. He has Jadeveon Clowney-level athleticism. He’s a superb fit at DE in Green Bay’s scheme. He ran a 4.58 at 277lbs.
#13 Miami — Christian Wilkins (DT, Clemson)
This is a quality pick for the Dolphins. They are rebuilding in the trenches. They need to shift the culture in Miami. They need new leaders, people who set a tone. That’s Wilkins. High character, infectious and he plays his tail off. Impact player.
#14 Atlanta — Chris Lindstrom (G, Boston College)
This was rumoured earlier in the day. It had been reported that some teams ended up grading Lindstrom in the top-20. Clearly Atlanta was one of them. He’s very athletic and ran a good forty (4.91) and short shuttle (4.54). He might need to get stronger though to maul and grind at guard.
#15 Washington — Dwayne Haskins (QB, Ohio State)
This was gathering steam this week. The Redskins can’t cut Alex Smith this season or next. They’re tied to his enormous contract. Therefore they were handcuffed to go and acquire a cheap quarterback. Drafting one was inevitable. I’m wary of Haskins. He’s a one year wonder playing in an offense that is always kind to quarterbacks.
#16 Carolina — Brian Burns (EDGE, Florida State)
There are extreme positives and negatives with Burns. He has fantastic athleticism, speed and quickness. He has great length. He had a pressure percentage of 19.7% in 2018. However, he played at about 228lbs last year. Can he keep weight on? Can he play the run? Can he convert speed-to-power or is he just a speed guy?
#17 New York Giants — Dexter Lawrence (DT, Clemson)
Lawrence, like Rashan Gary, got a lot of unnecessary criticism. Maybe it’s because they were the #1 and #2 national recruits and expectations went overboard? He had 33 pressures in 2018 — one fewer than Jeffery Simmons and seven more than Ed Oliver. He can rush, he’s an incredible athlete for his size and he’s stout. Great pick.
#18 Minnesota — Garrett Bradbury (C, NC State)
Pat Elflein was a weak link last year. Bradbury has incredible hips and he can twist his body to make reach blocks like very few interior O-liners. This stood out so much at the combine — I don’t think I’ve ever seen a lineman with hips like Bradbury showed that day. It’s a solid pick and makes sense based on their needs.
#19 Tennessee — Jeffery Simmons (DT, Mississippi State)
Some believe Simmons was the best player in the draft and it’s a compelling argument. He has a frame similar to Ndamukong Suh. He’s all muscle at +300lbs. He handles double teams with ease and flashed great pass rushing ability against Iowa in the Bowl game. He dropped because he tore his ACL during combine training.
#20 Denver (via Pittsburgh) — Noah Fant (TE, Iowa)
The Broncos were after a tight end. They traded down ten spots and get the second one off the board. Will Denver move back into the first round to get Drew Lock later on? If so, #29 could be an option for them. The Seahawks dealt with the Broncos on the Paxton Lynch trade. Fant is big, fast and highly athletic.
#21 Green Bay (via Seattle) — Darnell Savage (S, Maryland)
For the second year in a row, the Seahawks trade down with the Packers. Seattle moves from #21 to #30 — so they now own back-to-back picks at the end of the first. In return they get two fourth round picks (#114 & #118). They now have seven picks. The Packers are spending all their high draft stock on defense under their new GM. I really hope Seattle mimics that approach give the current state of the roster. Savage ran a 4.36 and you can’t teach speed.
#22 Philadelphia (via Baltimore) — Andre Dillard (T, Washington State)
The Eagles trade up from #25 and give the Ravens a fourth and sixth round pick. Andre Dillard ran an absurd 4.40 short shuttle at 315lbs and ran a 4.96. He’s the best pass-protecting lineman in the draft. The Eagles secure their tackle position for the long haul with Jason Peters now aged 37. This is good value for Dillard.
#23 Houston — Tytus Howard (T, Alabama State)
A lot of people liked Howard. Tony Pauline raved about him at the Senior Bowl. He did have that one rep against Montez Sweat that didn’t go well. The Texans needed to draft an offensive tackle. Bob McGinn noted in his mock draft that Jawaan Taylor has a knee issue.
#24 Oakland — Josh Jacobs (RB, Alabama)
Marshawn Lynch retired this week and set the stall for this pick here. Undoubtedly Jacobs emerged in 2018 and had some really fun plays. However — he didn’t have a great pro-day and you have to question his upside. He had 120 carries last season and that was by far his biggest tally.
#25 Baltimore (via Philadelphia) — Marquise Brown (WR, Oklahoma)
Antonio Brown’s cousin lands in the AFC North. The Ravens needed a receiver or an offensive lineman. Brown had a fantastic season in 2018. Yes he benefited from playing with the #1 pick on a loaded roster but he just gets open and makes big catches. Lamar Jackson can get it downfield.
#26 Washington (via Indianapolis) — Montez Sweat (EDGE, Miss. State)
The Redskins took Dwayne Haskins and then gave up their second round pick in 2020 to move up from #46. Chris Ballard now has three second round picks. He gets it. There were concerns about a heart condition. His 4.41 forty at 260lbs was incredible and he has 35 3/4 inch arms.
#27 Oakland — Johnathan Abram (S, Mississippi State)
Oakland’s draft was all about setting a tone, finding intense alpha males and that’s what they’ve added. Three physical players with leadership quality. They’re trying to build a tough group. The worst thing a team can do is not have a clear plan. The Raiders have that in this draft.
#28 Los Angeles Chargers — Jerry Tillery (DT, Notre Dame)
Recruited as a left tackle, Tillery’s physical profile is highly impressive. He’s 6-6 and 295lbs but still ran a 4.44 short shuttle. He had a weird game against USC where he kicked one player in the head and stamped on another’s ankle as both lay on the turf. Had a pressure percentage of 12.2%.
#29 Seattle — L.J. Collier (DE, TCU)
The Seahawks trolled the first round by using their back-to-back picks to essentially create a 20-minute on-the-clock window. They used pick #29 and traded pick #30. L.J. Collier is a beast. As I wrote earlier today, he wins with speed, speed-to-power, bull-rush, engage/disengage. He’s one of my favourite players in the draft and it’s a great pick. His pressure percentage was a high 19.2% in 2018.
#30 New York Giants (via Seattle) — De’Andre Baker (CB, Georgia)
The Seahawks traded down from #30 to #37 and gained a fourth (#132) and fifth (#142) round pick. Baker had a weird off-season and reportedly didn’t take combine training seriously. The Seahawks have done what we expected and traded down aggressively.
#31 Atlanta (via LA Rams) — Kaleb McGary (T, Washington)
The Falcons double down with the O-line and pair Chris Lindstrom with Kaleb McGary in round one. McGary is a tough physical, punishing tackle. He’ll give up some pressures but he’s very athletic and you’ve got to admire the commitment to the O-line.
#32 New England — N’Keal Harry (WR, Arizona State)
Harry believed he wouldn’t get by pick #33 and that proved to be correct. He’s a smart, intelligent personality with great YAC ability. Many believed he would be on Seattle’s radar.
That’s it for round one. Thoughts on the way shortly. I’m also just about to record a podcast with Brandon Schulze so stay tuned.
#29 (R1) L.J. Collier (DE, TCU)
#30 (R1)
#92 (R3)
#114 (R4)
#118 (R4)
#124 (R4)
#132 (R4)
#142 (R5)
#159 (R5)
Ben Ft. Worth.
It was Red Baron’s Pepperoni & Sausage thin crust. I put extra shredded parm&Romano cheese on it and it’s f***n’ delicious.
You like Hawaain too? Thought my and brother were the only ones.
I grew up slaying Totino’s Party Pizzas. The roof of my mouth peeled off almost every time from the cheese sticking to it at a temperature of “hot as bejeezus”.
This is going to be a fun night! Finally!
Me thinks tomorrow night will be waaaay more fun!
Yeah…so far so good. Can’t wait to see what Seattle does tonight
My wife is relieved that I won’t be audibly counting down the weeks and days to draft day anymore this year. 🙂
Especially since we’re expecting our first child in May, so half the time she thinks I’m referring to her due date, then exasperatedly realizes I’m referring to the NFL draft. 🙂
Mine too.
T Maclauren @32
I’m on team P Campbell in the same spot.
I love you guys
my body is ready
Happy Draft SDB!
Perhaps more than any previous JSPC draft, hard to predict how tonight will go down. Grateful for the added suspense. Day 1’s are usually pretty boring for Hawk Nation.
😂😂😂 Music skckcity
Let’s draft!
Poor guy. He has to watch 8 more years of Eli Manning.
I like the Murray’s suit. That is rocking some styles right there.
Didn’t the 1st round clock used to be 15 minutes as opposed to 10, or am i just misremembering that?
I think it was always 10 min… well recently…
but come-on, Cardinals haven’t ran up to the podium yet with the pick….. debacle inbound.
Imagine if AZ didn’t get their pick in time…
I’m sure they’re just waiting for the proverbial offer they can’t refuse.
Instant fricking classic move right there.
Meh, must be a Mandella effect
It used to be 15 but they wanted to speed it up. That was quite a few years ago now. Think it might’ve changed in 2010.
Man this is so exciting!
Yoooo! Lee Corso covering the draft is gold. lol
Anyone know how to stream the ‘Hawks war room on PC?
I think the seahawks.com has a link to watch…
Apparently it’s only available on mobile devices, but seahawks.com does have a mobile app to watch the war room feed
Let’s go!!! Wouldnt want to spend the draft on any other site. Pick is in!
Live war room is on a Seahawks mobile app
Well done Rob
He did look mighty good.
Now we gotta play him twice a year!!!
I just love boos that Rodger gets. Now Seattle has a new target for a new DL can go after
Darn, I was hoping [though not expecting] AZ would be stupid enough to pass on him and roll with Rosen. Gonna be a competitive division for years to come.
Would rather face Murray than Rosen.
Meh. Watching Rosen quit at halftime against UW was all I needed to see from him.
Murray gets to face Buckner, Bosa, Ford
Aaron Donald and the Rams D
And a Seahawk D that gonna get after the passer. Wish him the best but…
Josh Rosen should be fired up. Dumpster fire franchise.
As long as he does not end up with another one in the Giants
Some talent coming into the NFC West!
Very much so.
Honestly, I was more afraid of a SF team with Quinnen Williams crushing the middle. Bosa could be a monster of a player for SF, but I’m glad it wasn’t Williams
I like Quinnen Williams. But Nick Bosa is off the charts.
For the Hawks I think Bosa is much worse. Russ tends to pirouette outside where he’ll land into Bosa’s arms… If the middle is broken he can escape outside, but Russ is not too good climbing the pocket. For a guy like Brady or other more classic QBs Williams can be a worse opponent, but for us…I fear for Russ with the Armstead, Buckner, Ford, Bosa, Thomas, Alexander passrush potential
Jets, the first swing pick in the draft… possible trade down for a QB needy team.
I really like Quinnen Williams.
But how long are the Jets going to collect interior DL and never take a step forward?
*ahem* It’s the jets
Was just thinking the same. Soooo many highly drafted interior DL.
Valid point, but I still like the pick. If he can disrupt plays in the middle he has the ability to be a real game wrecker. (personally I do not care if the Jets don’t get better, actually I would rather them never take a step forward haha Go Hawks! ;))
I think even at 3, Quinnen is a steal. Jets made the right call there.
Rob, you were way ahead of the curve calling Murray #1. Congrats!
Thanks
New wall of Williams in the NFL. Jets will actually be fun to watch this year
To me the most understated and astounding fact/nugget of all of 2019 Draft analysis is and not just in this blog but nationwide is the fact that Rob stated that Kyler should be the number #1 overall pick.
I may be mistaken but he was the ONLY Draft Analyst to do so. I’m being serious. I would have to go back and double check, but most had him as a second round pick, some in the teens. Not even PFF. I’m talking Kiper, Mcshay, Brugler, Jeremiah etc etc. Even the lesser knowns.
Tide started to turn and he eventually was #1 on all mocks, but it took a while. I get the baseball thing was omnipresent, but still.
I commend you Rob, truly something. May seem normal now. But you were firm in your belief.
Let’s roll….
Thanks man
Yes I agree, Rob is amazing! I remember him being the first I could find. Even before Murray ever declared he was going to play football.
this is 100% correct, and how nobody in nat’l media “notices” it is a great mystery to me.
rob said it with absolute conviction at a time when it made as much sense to make the same case for, i dunno, some running back, or gardner minshew.
he also called that iowa TE, loooooooong before i saw anyone else talking him up.
WTH, Oakland
Hahahahaha!
Woooooooooooooow overdraft by Oakland [Las Vegas]
How do the Raiders not trade back right there?
*looking at Raiders brain trust*
I think I figured it out, a bunch of dummies
So much for Mayock being a wizard I guess.
Lack of offers and probably fell in love with Ferrell’s attitude.
Glad Seattle passed on the jets offer for Clark. No good trade offers, I’d imagine.
First surprise of the evening. I love Clelin and think this is a good pick in and of itself. But Josh Allen…..
Josh Allen gets blocked by college tight ends.
That was Navy’s guy who he said was as good as Frank Clark. lol
My mistake. Comparable to Clark due to his versatility.
This was my first surprise of the draft especially what I heard about injuries in high school and college to go this high.
So I’m guessing very few teams are actually willing to give up the capital to trade up? This is the vibe I’m getting so far.
I just don’t think there is enough high end Tier 1 talent in this draft that would make a team feel like they’re getting the guy who puts them over the top. Outside of a QB or Bosa or Williams, no one really makes sense trading up for to me.
Great pick! Love that guy.
I actually like that Ferrell pick for the Raiders. Genuinely high-character guy who you can build a team around. Hell of a player too.
Great player… Best of luck to him. Raiders will be here in Vegas next year and I’m sure I’ll gear plenty about him
Wow… Ferrell at 4!!!
Well I didn’t see that coming.
But I did expect Josh Allen to fall.
BTW if the Raiders couldn’t trade out of that pick then we now know why the Hawks didn’t want to trade up to 3 with the Jets. They knew teams wouldn’t be willing to trade up in this draft
Jim Navy’s guy is still there. But Bruce Arians doesn’t draft for need.
Who is that?
Josh Allen
Thank god they plugged those leaks. LOL.
Anyone a bit nervous D Line might just go early early early?
Yes.
Before each pick I hold my breath and day please not D Line lol
Ha good to know were all aligned
I got my big board in front of me which consists of Robs mock, a couple analysts I trust and my own + 1 friend Haha.
Let’s cheer the QB pick!
And Walter Cherepinski just game the Raiders the first ” FARMER FAIL, GRIGSON GAFFE, CERRATO SUCKAGE, BAALKE BLOOPER, CHIP TRAGEDY, KING CALAMITY, SASHI SUFFERIN SUCCOTASH” Grade of the draft
This is what I meant 😀 I like Walter’s content, but he can get a bit too excited.
LMFAO, this is great stuff
So he’s having a normal one?
Good pick for TB
honestly, TB really can’t go wrong with White. I can see him being a great player for years to come.
Kind of an Aaron Curry type pick for me. I think White will be much more successful. But picking that high, you need pass rush quality. You need impact. Jarrad Davis is similar — maybe a shade less quality but taken in the 20s.
There it is. Thank you Attyla. That’s exactly who White is.
God dammit. where’s his horse?
Bring back the creamsicle unis Tampa Bay! Cowards.
Didn’t they bust them out as their 3rd uniform for 1 or 2 seasons.
I miss them. ;D
Best draft of all time already! As a european viewer, there is no way to watch the draft live legally without paying, so off to bed we are!.
Great pick for Tampa.
+1
Best ILB prospect since Kuechly/Wagner.
I have to say, Tampa nailed that pick!
Although I thought they were pretty good at linebacker already.
Giants Haskins Do It
No. I wanna watch the world burn. Roll with Eli forever
Or was the leak legit, and Daniel Jones at #6? Would be very Giants.
oh Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
There it is!! Giants, never change.
Can they fail upward?
Those aren’t leaks. Those are the legit picks that you can see before they announce the pick. Dont talk about those here.
You’re misunderstanding, I’m talking about a report that came out 24 hours ago.
Oh ok, I was unaware. My bad
Glad I changed my competitive mock this morning, giving Jones to NY at 6.
how many picks do you have right so far, 5/6?
4/6, I had White to Bengals at 11.
another bulls eye for Rob…
This is where I could see Rashan Gary go. Gettleman gives no f***s.
Hahahaha!!
He really doesn’t.
*speaking in The Joker’s voice* It’s all….part of the plaaaaaaan
Dang. Wished they would save us from ourselves. Someone please take Gary.
Well I didn’t see that coming.
I love the draft.
Wow..this is gonna be a fun night! Better than Christmas for me.
OMG. What a dumpster fire.
Looking like 5 QBs tonight really might happen lol
This is VERY good news for Seattle
*rubs hands together*
https://prnt.sc/ngzgye
PSA: Get your quarterback now!
Daniel Jones is the most Giants looking QB you will ever see. When you think about some of the QBs they could have had… I’d even rather have traded for Rosen.
Wow!!
Giants couldn’t have traded there and gotten him like 20 picks later??
Teams must not be willing to trade up in this draft. Crazy!
It wouldn’t be the 1st round without some QB hail marys. Giants fire off the first one.
This is gonna be one of those drafts where the top 10 in no way shape or form will be anything close to the best 10 rookies .
Get the hell off my TV Taylor Swift
thats what you get with ABC
They haven’t pumped Avengers or Star Wars yet….. so could be worse I guess
Already saw a trailer for Endgame on ESPN. I don’t get the hype. looks like generic CGI nonsense.
*GASP* Blasphemy!!
It is really making me miss the low key days of Radio City music Hall and rabid Jets fans.
I should add drunk and rabid Jets fans.
Same. This coverage is garbage.
More live cam bar shots. Legends, Las Vegas sure looked fun…
Louis Riddick, saving grace.
Trade up for Allen, JS.
They will look back in 5-10 years at this draft top 6 and go…..
Pro Bowl
Pro Bowl
Pro Bowl
Bust
Pro Bowl
Bust
Don’t write off Ferrell.
Could easily have a Terrell Suggs type career.
Agree. I really liked Clelin. Think he’ll do very well
Kinda feels like that Jake Locker, Christian Ponder, Blaine Gabbert draft
Jones exudes the charisma of … Eli Manning. I’ll be amazed if he’s actually an NFL starter.
Reaching on QBs helps us immensely.
Someone’s getting a steal in Hockenson.
Exit Ebron (1 year removed), enter Hockenson.
That’s the anti-Ebron. That kid’s a beast!
https://prnt.sc/ngzj2k
LMFAO
Ralph Vacchiano
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@RVacchianoSNY
Raiders select Clemson DE Clelin Ferrell at 4 … destroying mock drafts everywhere and proving the Raiders are the Raiders no matter who is in charge.
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Michael David Smith
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Mayock and Gruden sent the scouts home because they didn’t want anyone around to laugh at them when they made the pick.
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How long before Mayock is back on the NFLN?
After round 1 is completed o.O
That’s the most Lions pick ever.
Well maybe this’ll make people forget about that Eric Ebron pick
Ebron killed it with the Colts. IMO Stafford is extremely overrated and seeing how Ebron balled out with Luck shows it.
ikr lmao
Jon Heder?
To be fair, he IS going to be really good.
But, yea, I’m not a fan of TE that high in general, the rookie contract savings relative to top of the market is one of the smallest of NFL positions.
Oh I like him don’t get me wrong.
He can at least bring it in the running game (blocking) and passing game (catching).
hockenson is so overrated
No he isn’t. That’s silly.
Does Elway take Haskins?
Possibly Devin Bush.
I like that fit. A lot.
Drew Lock, my bet.
Mine as well.
When was the last time a TE was taken before a WR in the 1st? Says a lot about the WR class this year I guess.
No disrespect to TJ though who I agree is a terrific player.
The Donnelly’s pub cam was epic!
Bills should be taking OL here, but I guess…. who knows
WR?
hum, not quite
Bills go DK Metcalf?
11 picks to go……. things breaking Seahawks way so far.
Absolutely LOVE Ed Oliver. Condolences for becoming a Buffalo Bill
He looked quite happy with it!
Tom Brady killer!
Guys. The Jets have won round 1 so far.
Not a bad take. Hoped we would trade Clark to Jets and have the chance to get him. Crazy great tape.
If we manage to get Gary somehow… That’ll be the happiest I’ve been about a Seahawks pick in a while
Bills get an overrated Defensive lineman with no good NFL fit… lol
when does the first offensive tackle go?
If Dillard is still on the board and we take Gary, I’m going to burn something Seahawk related.
That’s silly, Dillard isn’t a fit at all.
+1
I like Dillard, think he is the top OT in the class. But OT just isn’t a need.
Um, we do realize that Duane Brown is the OL equivalent of Doc Brown in age right?
Also consider that 2020’s OL class is expected to be worse than this years’ LB class. If we want an OL in the next two years — kind of need to get one this year.
Robin Roberts covering the draft for ABC? I don’t even know who she is but her suit is giving me a headache.
Good Morning America co host. Her voice disturbs me. Her back story is actually pretty interesting however. I hated Taylor Swifts outfit more..
Why does this guy look different than the guy they just showed on that highlight package?
His brother
lol. for real?
If I’m the Broncos I just draft for defense. If they can win a SB with the worst QB in the league (that year) why even try to fill the position?
FINALLYLLLYLLYLYLYYY
TRADE
Who Pitt coming up to get?
Bush
Got to be
Seems like a lot to give up for Bush.
Bush?
TRADE! Oh My!
Devon Bush
Steelers in for Bush?
devin bush
Those reports about the Steelers are true I guess. I’m curious who they absolutely wanted so bad in the Top 10.
I had the Broncos trading down from #10 to #23 then taking Drew Lock.
Wonder if they’ll still take Lock at #20.
Looking this might happen.
devin is wearing the worst jacket I have seen in a long time!
I love Pittsburg Trading above Cincinnati to select him. HAHA 😀
I’ve not seen the trade breakdown, but must be a 1st and 2nd and future 2nd points wise
future 3rd round pick
Steelers move up for a tiny and speedy linebacker
The outfits get worse every year. It looks like he’s coming in with a shoulder injury…
Devin looks like he graduated from Wakanda Tech.
that did make me LOL
lel
Always been a big Devin Bush fan. Twitchy and hard hitting.
Know you had some reservations early Rob. Did you fully come round?
I still think he will need to tone it down. At Michigan he was given the freedom to go all-out rush at the LOS and he gave up some easy runs by losing contain on his side. He’s not great in coverage despite his speed. But as a run-and-hit linebacker, wow. He hits like a sledgehammer.
Thanks for the note.
Serious attributes, sounds you understood the pick.
Hopefully he can take to the coaching you speak of to realise potential. I know we had a bit of dialogue regarding Jarrad Davis going missing in coverage (who you liked) but Lions believe he can improve. I see Bush as a better prospect, personally. Not light and day but enough to take note.
I also loved Steelers aggressive move. They’ve jumped Bengals like that a few times it feels
yeah I thought he had a shoulder injury as well.
A couple of surprises so far, but not nearly as crazy as some people were predicting. Everything seems to be shaking up really well for SEA so far.
“Everything seems to be shaking up really well for SEA so far”. Every time I hear this, I prepare to be surprised by our pick.
How ridiculous did Vince Wilfork and DeAngelo Williams look in their Bridgestone sponsored costumes?
Were all those Haskin’s kids?
his GF(wife?) is super hot.
there goes the first offensive tackle.
Love that pick.
I agree, the Red Rifle definitely needs more time in the pocket.
That O-line is so bad. Jonah can play anywhere and everywhere.
His face after a hard sack is almost as bad as Carr’s
I don’t care about his arm length either, I care about him being in the bottom quarter of NFL OL athletically.
Super thud pick for cincy.
What a joke. Bust.
This is why I wasn’t betting on Gary when Carroll was sending out draft clues on twitter. Pete knows with 100% confidence that HIS guy will be there. There was no way he could be bet on Gary being available.
sorry. Wasn’t meant as a reply to you
Or his draft clues are vague enough so they can end up applying to whoever they end up drafting.
I really like the value Denver got by trading back 10 spots.
Elway made a nice move.
F YOU GB
F YOUUUUUUUUUUUUU
NOOOOOOOOO
There goes Gary. Boohoo.
No reaction whatsoever in the war room. I’m guessing NFL front offices knew he was gonna be top 15 all along
whew!!!
hope he busts there like I thought he would here.
Interesting that Goodell announced Gary as a linebacker
It is just because of GB scheme.
That’s what I was thinking – but if they’re a 3-4 wouldn’t he play DE and then kick inside in sub packages? Saying LB makes me think of him playing with his hand up as a rush linebacker, which is interesting since he’s a 285 lb. DT as of right now
Glad we avoided McDowell 2.0, TBH
+1
Nothing like McDowell.
Stop trolling.
Not trolling at all, but ok.
Gary might not play rookie year.
Not a direct reflection of McDowell, but some red flags that strike me as higher than average bust probability. High pick with higher than palatable risk. A similar general feeling that surrounded McDowell (if not quite to the same level).
It’s not even a remote comparison.
They’re totally different players, totally different physical profiles and totally different personalities.
The only similarity I can see is they both play defensive line.
Taking too much of a literal comparison. The McDowell reference is purely an emotional connection of too high risk for comfort with a high pick. Too much bust potential for the draft capital.
Reference could have been made with the same intended sentiment regarding a safety. Or a WR.
Even then — I can’t see how anyone can make the comparison there. McDowell genuinely mailed it in and had a very peculiar personality. Gary was a focal point of the #1 statistical defense in the country and is a good guy who has battled severe dyslexia to become an all-academic.
So are your officially predicting that Gary ends his career in a freak ATV accident?
no McDowell represents a high pick/low return (for me). Gary may turn out to be great but he has high bust potention imo.
+1
I feel we dodged a bullet but will be happy to be proven wrong.
I had him in my mock, but I’m actually ok with this.
/thumbs up
However, that GB pass rush is nasty!
Z’Darius & Preston Smith, Mike Daniels, Rashan Gary, and Kenny Clark?!? Good lord
Not surprising tbh. I wasn’t betting on Gary being available, and neither was pete it seems for good reason.
Haskins?
What’s the floor for Lawrence and Wilkins? How far does Sweat fall?
#21
Damn you, Green Bay!
Miami has to take Haskins right?
DL or OL
they pretty much need everything…
We gonna get someone good I can feel it.
Thornhill could be the pick
I’m starting to feel the Burns.
Phins nailed it.
By the way… Steve Smith blatantly tipped the Rashan Gary to GB pick on NFL Network.
He sat there acting like he was touting that as a possibility. Give over Steve.
Watching ABC. How is Steve?
He’s good when he’s not tipping picks
I loved Steve Smith as a player, but I can’t stand him on the air
After watching those splits I’m a fan of Christian Wilkins now haha looks like a fun kid!
Looks like he genuinely has some fun going out there
Wonder if its Lawrence to ATL? Saw a spot on NFL Network earlier today with Vic beasley going back to Clemson and hanging out with Dexter
I think Atlanta takes sweat or Lawrence
Nevermind, good pick tho
The NFL network’s sound effects on the highlights are next-level swooshy.
Seahawk war room cam is now must watch. Getting active there.
it’s hilarious reading the instant draft grades with Yahoo staff writers.
So far the lowest grade is C- on the Giants QB pick.
Only A grade is the Jets. Two A minus grades for Steelers and 49ers. Cardinals only got a B+
Really like Chris Lindstrom, but not at 14.
who is the kid in the hawks war room sitting behind carroll?
Great pick by the Dolphins A+
Everyone looks comfortable still on the Seahawks war room cam.
I think they’re starting to feel confidant one of their guys is going to be there. I’m antsy to find out who it is. Or maybe they got good deals on trade backs lol.
Haskins or Lock here to Washington?
Time to warm up the Seahawks draft pick trade phones
*testing testing testing*
Sweat and Burns might last to #21. Hawks better not trade down from 21.
Yes I would rather they traded back on #29 too. The trade value difference is a mid third rounder at 160 points.
They likely identified their target weeks before the Clark trade, and there is no guarantee that it’s either of them. All we know is that Pete is 100% confident that his guy will be available in the spot they want.
The war room stream is garbage. Won’t cast to my chromecast, or even go full screen on my phone.
I think Carolina might go OL, but them and the Giants at 17 make me nervous in terms of pass rushers.
Giants might be looking for WR or TE however
Panthers are a bit of a wildcard to me
Man. I f***n’ love that pick.
Nice, had Haskins to DC.
we might have our choice of wr if the hawks decide to make one their first pick.
If we went Marquise Brown then DL, DL, NCB I wouldn’t mind.
Minnesota has to jump at Dillard if he’s there yeah?
That would be a solid move for them.
Pete’s musical clues had a lot of references to “easy”. Another term for easy is “no sweat”…..
Montez Sweat ????
Would love Sweat.
;D
I would be very happy with that.
Easy -> Easy like Sunday Morning -> NFL games happen on Sunday Morning -> trade some picks to get Frank Clark back from KC… So obvious.
🙁
Noooo!! Had a feeling. Fantastic get.
There goes Burns. Again, not surprising and was probably not going to be the Hawks pick anyways, even if he fell. Pete knows who his guy is and knows the right spot to take him.
Carolina took our guy Vol! That sucks really hoping we would have a shot.
I know man. I’m bummed out. Panthers and Giants made me nervous. It’s their m.o.
Welp. If Sweat gets picked soon, I think we go WR (N’Keal Harry is my guess) or S (Juan Thornhill) maybe. Starting to feel they might be going after Jaylon Ferguson too. Chris Simms comped him to Frank Clark.
Trade down.
They’ll find their guys. Got to dominate day two.
This. Still a TON of value available. Settle in lads.
Thats a great pick by NYG.
kind of glad Burns is gone..think he might get thrown around like a rag doll by NFL OL’s…
David Shaw compared him to Javeon Kearse and I like that comp. I think Burns is a 10 + sack guy.
you mean Jayron Kearse??? he ‘s a db
never mind..just found Jevon Kears ..he played at 265 though
Fingers are crossed for Sweat or Lawrence.
I think Giants take one of them however but if not we have a shot.
Simmons*
I bet he isn’t even on our board
Keep an eye on Byron Murphy.
don’t the giants need a wr as well? or oline
NYG- ??
Minnesota- OL
Tennessee- WR
Denver- QB
Cody Ford realistically available… intriquing
Gearing up for the NFL network to go to commercial during Hawks pick…as per usual.
this tbh
Haha so true.
so true. Before the Hawks pick they will be talking about the last pick. Then after Seattle picks they will talk about the next pick.
Meh.
Darn it – I was hoping he would fall to the Seahawks.
Lawrence is one of the few guys we see really different.
If this was 10 years ago I’d love him.
Hate the Giants 1st pick but love their 2nd pick. Was hoping we would have a chance to get Lawrence.
DJ mentions Ngata – drink!
Hahaha!
Can’t help himself.
Like I need another reason
who do you guys think the vikes go with?
Dillard or Ford. Then again they do avoid OL early. But it’s the one thing keeping them from winning the NFCN.
Can’t see the Seahawks picking at #21.
I think they try hard to trade back from 21 unless MOntez Sweat is still there
Someone is going to be desperate to get ahead of someone else for something.
I know why you say that, but the Hawks should take the best DL guy available at 21. They could get cute and lose their target guy.
And lose who exactly?
Who are they losing who’s left and goes before #29?
There isn’t anyone.
Who traded up?
?
NVM. I thought someone did.
Montez sweat has to be tempting for us at 21
Easy as Sunday morning
Think the Titans take him but I hope not.
Not the O-lineman I thought but there ya go.
hey Rob, I know the Seahawks will trade back but if they had to pick who would you like at 21?
We could get Tillery or Sweat @ 21!
Time to trade down now
One OL I could actually see us taking is Jawaan Taylor.
Please slide a couple more picks Simmons, we neeeeed you!!!
Really suprised Dillard is still on the board.
Agreed.
*whispers* Jonah was always superior
It’s what Joe Thomas kept saying and I harped on. His footwork is a massive project. Will be hard to break that bad habit. Will take the perfect scenario/O-line coach.
Well I had led on after Joe Thomas said it.
WR or pass rusher here. I’ll say the 1st wideout comes off the board here though.
Denver should go Lock..(next)
I think this all helps Seattle. Either Baltimore will want the only other good center left (McCoy) or they’ll want a receiver. Expect teams will want to get above them.
Ability to draft Sweat or trade down…you already know JS has traded the pick before you even starting thinking about it lol
TRADE DOWN AT 21.
THere still have been NO secondary players taken. That is incredible, but good news for us.
Noah Fant at 21? I’m game.
not our biggest need but tempting
Pass catcher is a pretty big need with Baldwin considering retirement. Get a top TE and draft receiver early next year.
Fant, Metcalf, Sweat, Winovich, Harry, ton of DBs, Simmons, ‘Hollywood’. A lot of talent left.
Dillard, Ford, McGary
Damn, that Hillsboro kid looks like a man.. at 18
Great pick.
WOW. TEN playing the long term game.
Crap baskets, trade down is a must now.
Can we take the high school kid wearing 57?
He has to be around 265 and 6’6″
schnieder hasn’t been on the phone yet
Come on Denver, take the QB
J Taylor would be tempting at #21..otherwise trade back
Apparently there are big concerns with Jawaan Taylor’s knee.
This was from Bob McGinn’s mock draft last night:
Probably a trade at 21 but I’d like to see Perris Campbell selected. Pair him with Lockett on some play action.. whole lotta speed.
I was really hoping Simmons would fall more. Maybe we can get Sweat?
I think were staying put unless john traded our pick awhile ago
Just a few minutes away from 21. Even with a likely trade back, I’m getting antsy.
Here comes Josh Jacobs for Seattle ya’ll. j/k
Rob had Taylor going #12 to GB..just saying… ;<)
hahahaha..just saw your comment above Rob
I haven’t seen john on the phone for a while now
A guy in Seattle draft room is talking intensely with everyone with the draft card in hand. We’re picking at 21. Noah Fant or Montez Sweat I think.
PC’s got his phone out. I think theyr’e getting ready to call their guy.
No Sweat bro, we got you ~ PC
All the WRs and all the DBs are left. Hmmm…
God Noah Fant would rule. Either TBH.
Love the pick for Denver though.
A bit of a reach, but hopefully Tillery or Thornhill for me.
FRIGOFF BARB
lot of talk on KJR radio about Sweat health
*sarcasm*
Here comes our pick of Will Grier!
Why would you put that out in the universe?
I’m an agent of Chaos.
There is nothing happening in the war room. They might already have a trade worked out
fant is off the board
On the phone…
DK Metcalf in 3, 2 …
Fant, Jimmy Graham 2.0 ?
JS on the phone…
Shame about Simmons. I rather liked him, even with a medical redshirt.
He wasn’t on the board
It’s Sweat or it’s a trade back.
Agree completely. Sweat or a trade back. Praying they pull the trigger on Sweat if the medical checked out.
Unless they feel comfortable with Sweat they should trade down.
JS IS ON THE PHONE, I REPEAT JS IS ON THE PHONE
OMG, a Seahawks 1st round pick!
Fans don’t get to experience that every year with JS/PC. 😀
trade down
john just threw a card in the garbage. not sure what that means lol
trade
trade to packers
Trade!
trade
Commercial ……” Now we are back and Baltimore is on the clock. What do they need?”
GB trade…offcourse
I’m shocked. Said nobody
Well, we predicted ESPN at a commercial for #21, but the Seahawks aren’t picking. Hi, GB.
TRADEEEE!!!!
Yes! Packers come through, again.
Packers, what we get?
Schneider’s GB connections must still run deep. I feel like we always deal with them lol.
+1
sweat must not be on our draft board
you could actually red shirt Taylor a year if it’s just a knee thing…
Well, we know well pick at 29, cant trade out from in front of ourselves lmfao.
We get 30 and 114 and 118. Great value!!!
😀
eh, not real keen on 4th round picks
KJ Wright Å 4th rounder. Ya never know.
Wow that is
I’m underwhelmed by the trade – but it is a fair swap.
‘JoHN ElWay iS EnAmOrEd wItH DrEw LoCk’
hahahhahahaha
trade!!
So Pete, it seems, nevr had Sweat in mind. Not surprising, but I am thrilled about the trade back.
we got 2 4th round picks
Seems like a somewhat light return? I think our reputation as a team that loves to move down probably hurts our chances of getting true value
This a team that never has 1 guy in sight. It’s always a group of players they’re comfortable selecting in a certain range.
That is the worst draft for Offensive talent through 20 picks I can ever remember. Weak QB’s, No RB’s, No WR’s and 2 Iowa TE’s? ha ha ha… Total joke!
JS: the cliff of talent falls off the 3rd round. Trades back and gets 2 fourths.
Has to be because there are many guys still on their board that they have rated roughly the same.
But only getting 2 fourths? Interesting that was the best offer they could get
Yup. Have to get these jokes off my man. I got a brand to uphold. 😉
Can’t wait for regime change.
Get stuffed
Profound
Yet apt.
Nobody wants this nonsense on here. Your one and only warning.
The Seahawks needed picks.
Trading down was inevitable — and they now have seven picks.
Don’t be shocked if they trade down again.
With how early all the DL are going, Sweats issue must be legit. He might be a day 2 or 3 guy for real.
Thank goodness, I was sweating bullets hoping they didn’t grab Sweat pun definitely intended.;)
Schneider would take a buy get get one half off Jimmy John’s coupon to trade back from the end of the first round.
Agreed. The Seahawks got the 114 and 118 picks for this. Historically, those draft picks have like a 5% chance of becoming NFL starters…
It must be a WR right?
Like that pick, but A-Rod needs weapons. Badly.
Nice move, they still have two 1sts that come with the 5th year option
I don’t think they’re done trading.
100%
Me either for what its worth
Nothing in their history suggests the Hawks value the 5th year option at all
That might be changing with these latest contracts.
GB trades up for Savage? Wow. Cue the run onDB’s.
Ravens passed on a wideout? Woof.
JS was checking his lotto tickets and tossed em in the trash can before #21.
Savage to GB? Damn…
GB got Gary and Savage. Damn them.
Late 1st round WR still in the cards for Seattle.
Savage looks like ET 2.0. Dang, would have looked good as a Hawk
Earl Thomas he aint.
Savage is the first DB taken so far. No CBs for far. No WRs. This is the insane part of the draft.
Yoooo!!! Seattle picks 3 times in Saturday morning? Christmas came early ya’ll.
Hawks will trade 29 and 118 to get a 2nd (41?) and a low 3rd? Then 30 and 118 to basically duplicate. 4 picks between 41 and 80 is my guess. Right where Rob has said the strength of the draft is. Go Hawks. Great job Rob I love this blog!!
Anyone know why taylor is dropping?
because uw is overrated and only 1 player from there has been worth anything in the past decade
rob said knee issues
unless it’s chronic..I say take him..he can redshirt behind Ifedi this year..
Our draft board at the moment.
1.29.
1.30.
3.92
4.114
4.118
4.124
5.159
I like this position.
There’s a lot of talent in that gap between 30 and 92.
Since when is 245 a little thin guy?
Burns??
Dillard when he entered college / now 315
Dillard finally off the board
I’m genuinely happy for Dillard. First guy from the state to be taken. Good luck to Murphy.
im a dog fan but good for Dillard, go Cougs.
Who we gonna get guys?
If Houston don’t take Cody Ford or an O-lineman, shoot their FO into the sun.
Exactly.
Philly knew it too.
Well…
WR run will start REALLY soon
Greetings from a flight to Nashville! I paid for WiFi to see the hawks trade down 4 times!!! Whoop!
Me too!! Enroute to LAX but it’s worth it!! I know they’ll pick in R1 at some point??!!
You expected anything else?!
Nope! Although I do hope we make 1 pick tonight, if only so I can fall asleep watching highlight clips
Who?
>TEXANS
Wooooooooooooooooooooooooow
After another trade down or two, feeling Chauncey Gardner-Johnson and Jaylon Ferguson.
Seahawks take both OSU wideouts back to back… Calling it, haha
that would be so awesome!!!
HAHA!
Walter just handed out his 2nd “MAYOCK MALFUNCTION, FARMER FAIL, GRIGSON GAFFE, CERRATO SUCKAGE, BAALKE BLOOPER, CHIP TRAGEDY, KING CALAMITY, SASHI SUFFERIN SUCCOTASH” Grade tonight for GB’s pick
Tytus who?
Keep dropping back…..
Three 2nds, two 3rds, Five 4’s.
Absolutely. Keep… trading… back.
Dawn Rob, you must be burning the midnight oil, hope you got a good nap earlier.
Wouldn’t miss this for the world
Yes, with two 1st round picks this is one of the most entertaining drafts in a while.
NFL Network going to advert breaks constantly at the moment.
Very frustrating.
so..assuming no RW deal..would anybody have taken Lock at #21??
Grier or no QB.
I would.
I personally think he’s the 2nd best QB in this draft.
Pats take him at 32 for the extra year of control.
Counting our blessings with every pick that procrastinates the run on WR’s.
Watching Seahawks cam, looks like they’re reviewing multiple trade cards. Looks like at least one trade down is coming
I can’t criticize the Raiders for going for a RB. I’m always a fan of building the running game, so fair play to them.
Lynch retired, so they were going to take a guy. Might as well pick the one you like.
The man has a nice suit, I will give him that.
Looking at the War room. Are those draft cards? What are they doing? I want to know what is going on lol
On the phone…
or 2 more trade downs!
Those are takeout menus
HAHA
1st Round RB (not to the Seahawks, just saying).
what happened to Damien harris this year ? he was a first rounder if he had come out last year.
Ravens with their choice of wideout.
Will be interesting to see who they choose for Lamar to attempt to throw the ball to
Only receiver I want is N’Keal Harry in Rd 2. Maybe the kid from Iowa State in Rd 4.
I agree on Harry.
But he goes here to the colts.
If I was them that’s my pick.
Harry or byron Murphy
JC working the phone hard right now
*JS
WORK IT BABY!
They need a another 3rd.
“MAYOCK MALFUNCTION, FARMER FAIL, GRIGSON GAFFE, CERRATO SUCKAGE, BAALKE BLOOPER, CHIP TRAGEDY, KING CALAMITY, SASHI SUFFERIN SUCCOTASH Grade”
For the Texans pick 😀
from Walterfootball of course. 3rd such grade of the day.
Gaurentee Seattle gets one of those lol
Oh, Walter has already handed out a ton of those for the Hawks, and then a few years later does an updated mock where that player gets chosen before the original draft position.
Hollywood! What a gift for BAL!
Adding some spice to the Ravens offense.
About time. Will be a good fit with Lamar Jackson.
I hope Sweat sticks around to 29 and we trade out of 30.
If Sweat has dropped this far the concerns about his health are legit and therefore, not sure why Seattle would want him.
on ESPN, they inferred there is some type of hidden character issues.
Report came in just today saying the combine medical staff was wrong about his heart condition. Could be a real steal.
And then other people reported teams were saying… not so fast.
Sweat got an independent doctor to say it was a misdiagnosis. There was a vested interest there.
Hey Pete, you want to order some Pho or some Dim Sum? ~ JS
*picks up stack of menu’s off of desk*
Haha +1
kek
I’m not a fan of this band that’s been playing in the background all night, but at least they’re playing The White Stripes now
I’m a hip hop/R&B/old school rock and roll, but dammit if I dont love me some Jack White and White Stripes.
Ya he’s ridiculous. Still got it too, he was here last summer and rocked it. Really looking forward to the Black Keys tour after such break now
Ooohh. Black Keys are dope too. Same with The Strokes.
I saw Black keys 2 years ago.
Best concert I’ve been to.
Gary Clark junior right behind, barely.
Snow patrol and Chevelle come close though.
I think Gary Clark Jr. is the best show I’ve ever been to. He’s for sure the best guitar player I’ve ever seen. Did you see the Black Keys or just Dan Auerbach? I didn’t think the Black Keys did any tours after the Turn Blue tour in 2014
You’re right.
Had to be more than 2 years ago.
Christ I’m getting old.
Washington trading up for a wideout? Is there about to be a run on the position?
That would be my guess.
Still no CBs or WRs taken
Aside from Brown
Although they never replaced Preston Smith. Or did they?
Could use some secondary help as well.
There it is.
Man the people talking at the war room are tedious
what I wouldn’t give to be a fly on the wall in the war room
They really should record the inside of the war room, just to have some cool audio like 20 years from now. Like they should really do that, then just lock the recording up in a vault for 20 years and then pull it out. It would be super cool
Gentlemen. You can’t fight in here. This is the War Room!
From Dr. Strangelove
Great movie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAeqVGP-GPM
I would love to hear the crazy trade calls… and them slam the phone down on the caller.
Guys. Do you think there is a chance that someone would trade two round picks for our 29th pick?
No
Crap
And there goes Sweat. great pick, but I don’t think he was the Hawks target to begin with. not upset at all about this
If they wanted him they would’ve taken him. This is all calculated. They’re moving around and getting their guys.
Kind of surprised that they didn’t go with a WR that he is comfortable with, but good news for the Hawks.
A pair of seconds for 26? Dang.
Also, darn it Redskins.
Kills me a bit to see the haul Colts got for a shorter trade down v ours
Can anyone provide an explanation? Or just the mechanics of the draft?
Current year picks vs future picks. Main difference.
JS doing those who he trusts/likes a favor?
Maybe GB was the only team willing to trade up with them?
All I saw was a 2nd rounder next year for dropping 20 places in the draft.
Here’s the thing.
Who did Washington jump in front of that wanted Sweat? Oakland to make up for the loss of Mack?
I’m guessing Raiders pick Metcalf here..because they are the Raiders
That really sucks. Sweat was a shot for us to get an elite pass rusher I hope those two 4th round picks end up being worth it.
I am guessing he must not have been on the Hawks board because they absolutely passed on him.
Don’t assume they would’ve taken him at #21 anyway.
True but at the very least they did not think he was a must have. They only picked up a couple of 4th round picks. Those could end up being good players though so I am going to stay positive.
Sweat was fools gold, great athlete below average football player. My biggest concern with this draft was him or Gary ending up on the Hawks, we learned this lesson from Christen Micheal already but PC has a historically had a blind spot for Sparq freaks. The Raiders seem to be blowing it the other way, but so far my biggest loser is the Giants, but I think the Packers and Raiders have ensured their jobs are temporary as well.
I pray this does not mean they are targeting Ferguson. That is my worst nightmare.
So bummed we missed Sweat. He was the only elite edge we had a shot at.
That’s not true at all. so many of these guys outplayed their draft position. It’s why I love day 2-3 even more.
Who is left that’s in the same tier as Sweat?
I’d take Winovich over him. Banogu other than his length is almost identical. Omenihu. Dre’Mont Jones.
They might like Ferguson more than the fan base.
D’Andre Walker. Maxx Crosby.
These guys might not be the same tier, but offer better value. And that’s what it’s all about.
STILL
NO
CBs
TAKEN
Good pick for Oakland, but they need offensive weapons too.
They pick again in 7 slots and there’s only been 1 WR leave the board.
Plus it’s a deep TE class.
They could potentially get mclaurin, Harry, Metcalf, brown, Campbell
And then pick a TE in Rd 4
Good point.
Seattle might draft Cody Ford… fits their physical profile they like in OL/OG.
I also would love to see the fan reaction to an early OL draft pick ^.^
I’m tired of the sky is falling reactions. For once, I’d love no some happy twitter reactions.
No pass rusher? Damn our defense is gonna be bottom 10. Won’t even be surprised.
Maybe a pass rusher, maybe not. Round 3 is loaded. And if so many ‘great’ rushers are already off the board it’s gonna push some into round 4.
Mayock is drafting the type of guys he loved when commenting.
Ferrell, Jacobs and Abram are all big time culture guys. Good for the Raiders.
Bummer. Wanted Sweat bad….
I don’t see any more must have guys on the board. Would like the Hawks to trade back into the 2nd with both picks now so they can get more lottery tickets.
Cody Ford would fit well.
More trade back please!
Tons of options!
Lots of activity in the War Room. Wonder what the hubub is about.
Trade back again with both picks and get Ferguson and Harry in the second and Winovich in the 3rd!
Go Hawks!!
Please no. Trade back sure just so not into either of those guys.
IDK why people are bummed. There’s quite a bit of talent at WR, DB, and D-line.
That would be a great result
Seahawks screwed up
No they didn’t.
Let the pros do their job.
Pretty disappointing that we traded away Clark and didn’t grab any of the really good Dline options available…hopefully we get somebody like Winovich that can manufacture some pass rush
I’m guessing Cody Ford and Chauncey Gardner-Johnson. Not necessarily at #29, #30 but they seem like two players Seattle could use.
I think Ford is gonna go to the Rams..
I think Ford in Rd 1, CGJ in Rd 2 after a trade down. Hoping they add Miles Boykin + Tyler Hill in 3rd.
Trysten, not Tyler.
here we go…
Anyone but Ferguson please. Sounds like a great kid but I hope he is not what they are pinning thier pass rush hopes on.
What’s the call here guys?
I loved the last 3 picks. Sweat, Abrams, Tillery….
Oh well… What’s left? Anyone pick me up w some hype?
Guys. Don’t sweat. That Sweat went to Washington.
The sky ain’t falling guys.
It is always falling on the night of round #1 for the Hawks fans you know that Vol 🙂
OL. McGary! I’m a Fife guy!
Billy Ray Cyrus sure is getting a lot of run on this broadcast. Is he to Tennessee as Prince was to Minnesota?
They really do go to commercial every time we pick.
I watch NFL.com draft tracker..picks show up faster anyways
I’d be shocked if they don’t trade back – down to 3 minutes left now with their pick. They are listening to offers for sure!
Oh shit theyre calling….
Can we go over 10 mins if we are next up?
Metcalf is still sitting there? Harry, Deebo, Parris Campbell
CJG, Thornhill, Adderley
Omenihu, Ferguson, Winovich,
Cody Ford, McGary
AJ Brown too.
D’Andre Walker please
Come on, just grab Tillery and be great full they didn’t end up with Sweat.
The trade for Sheldon Richardson is coming back to haunt us. Lost our 2nd rd and causing to drop further down that I’d like to see Sweat, Abrams and Tillery all off the board.
We need to replace Ifedi at RT but do we do it now or later?
We need a pass rusher. We need a WR. We need another CB.
??????
Can we please stop with all the Sheldon Richardson lost pick complaining already? I don’t know how long this has to go on . . . That ship has sailed.
People gotta stop panicking lol. Tons of good players available.
PICK IS IN PICK IS IN
Hugh Millen is pumping DK M
He fits the mold.
Gonna be one of these guys still there or will it be considered a ‘reach?’
Here we go.
Hahahah
They still have all the time of pick 30 to trade. I bet that is messing with people.
That hurt to miss on Simmons and the consolation prize Tillery as well. Anthony is our only chance to improve the Dline now, but wherever we trade down too the team right before us will grab him.
So Seattle actually makes a pick… WR?
It’s hilarious how much Rich Eisen hates the band
F***ING COMERCIAL!
Boy. For a team with 2 firsts, as of now, they sure are milking this.
Your killing the PNW and Hawks fans everywhere NFL!!!
Time really can stop on TV
big surprise, Hawks pick is in…. commercial
Anyone know the real time left? ESPN can’t figure this out.
Nfl network was the same.
Is it just my mind or is this taking forever?
Nah. It’s ridiculous. IDK why we had to watch Christian Wilkins dunk on folks or whatever the f*** he was doing. Talking about the Power Rangers probably.
You realize the Hawks have been on the clock 3 times and ESPN has gone to commercial break each time. I get the feeling they don’t care for us.
I mean we’re either trading down or taking forever. I don’t blame them lol.
They do this every single year with almost every one our picks, pisses me off!
I have a feeling this pick is gonna come out of left field!
Pick is in yall! Let’s go! In PCJS we trust always remember.
whoa we picked!
Campbell? Or K’Neal?
Longest pick is in I have ever seen. Maybe they will do both at once!
Seeing Collier
You nailed it.
JESUS
I think it has been 15 minutes of straight commercials.
Maybe Pete has decided we have the highest paid QB lets out score everyone.
DK Metcalf and Paris Campbell back to back. Kidding
they traded #30…
YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES
Good pick, but a reach.
Massive reach
Massive oxymoron that…
LJ Collier BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!! BOOM!!!!!!!!
shocker
TRADE!
is LJ a !st rounder?
From the previous thread, who bet on the first pick? I picked LJ, BOW BEFORE ME!
You definitely got it! Congrats on the bragging rights!
Best part about this: I gave a co-worker a list of 4 positions, and 1 player at each position:
WR: Terry mcClaurin
S: Juan Thornhill
DE: LJ Collier
DT: Trystin Hill
I’ just happy that I am now the draft god at my workplace.
His athletic profile was never that bad for his position.
Sweet sweet sweet. Great #29 pick.
Typical Hawks pick. I really like the player but thought he was a 2nd rounder. Guess he was the guy they wanted and I can’t complain about that. Seems like a good kid too.
I love the LJ Collier pick. I wonder what they will do with pick 37
I think Thornhill or Mclaurin or Ferguson. Hope it is one of the first two.
I think having control over his 5th year is worth it.
we get 2.5 tomorrow…
plus 5.4 it looks like
Love the pick! Kid is twitched up!
What did we get for #30?
Right?
#37 and #132 I think
2.5 and 5.4
710 ESPN reporting pick 5 in round 2 and a 4th and 5th. We got the 8+ picks we need.
Geez, the Hawks now own the 4th round.
plus 5.4 it looks like
every pick they make seems like a reach according to most
welcome to being a Seahawks fan.
Rob you should be a Hawks scout as you clearly think alike. I know Collier was one of your favourites
I like Collier a lot, there are other guys I’d have preferred, but he does fit.
If Rob thinks he is a badass then I’m super excited for this pick! Great work Rob, go Hawks!
https://twitter.com/FieldYates/status/1121619885694566400?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
According to Yates, we get 37, 132, 142.
After all that we only get 4th and 5th round picks? JS said there is a dropoff after 3 so we load up on 4th and 5th round picks? I don’t get it. Good night you guys…hopefully tomorrow is a better day.
There’s always the possibility of a Tyler Lockett-style trade of 4ths for a 3rd later.
I could see the Hawks taking his teammate Banogu at some point tomorrow as well.
Don’t know much about LJ, Tony Softly had him in the 3rd round
LJ Collier is a frickin BEAST, absolutely love this guys toughness, motor, and attitude. He’s a great player and a perfect fit for the Hawks.
Hope he works out, a lot of local experts that know more than me are pissed.
I’m sure some others had them lower. There’s always somebody that forecast your guys lower than the rest
a little lower is one thing……
I got a trade with the Giants right but it was to get Daniel Jones lol
They liked that TCU program this draft season didn’t they?
I think Banogu could be a target tomorrow.
Please no
JS ends up with this traditional 8 pick allotment.
Don’t we have 9 picks now?
Absolutely love your comment on LJ Collier Rob … it takes the sting of seeing some of the other top players off the board. Go Hawks!
“closest thing to Michael Bennett in this draft”..I’ll take it…
see you guys tomorrow
FALCONS ARE BEEFING UP THE OL
Okay…WTF are our picks now? LOL
1.29. L.J. Collier DL
2.37.
3.92.
4.114.
4.118.
4.124.
4.132.
5.142.
5.159.
Our first pick tomorrow is 37. We got 9 picks total now.
Thanks. I was losing my shyt. LOL It seems that they’ve got to make that 2nd round pick stick. How about Byron Murphy or Jaylon Ferguson?
We’ll see…Seahawks never make it easy on us fans. LOL
37
93
114
118
125
132
142
160
NE stays playing chess ya’ll.
710 ESPN has no idea who LJ Collier is and even Danny O’Neil said he wasn’t on the radar in his mind. So thankful for SDB. Saw Collier at the Senior Bowl and fell in love with him.
#21 for #37, 114, 118, 132, 142
Not bad.
That’s pretty awesome, when you put it that way. Love the haul.
This is the anti-Malik McDowell pick.
Does that mean we know for sure he will never ride an atv?
And the Seahawks can’t select Harry! Best news of the night.
I absolutely LOVE this pick. Collier does not fit the profile that the Hawks usually go for, but he is a f***ing pit bull when it comes to rushing the passer. Powerful, relentless, aware. Fantastic pick.
Just for the record:
http://seahawksdraftblog.com/final-notes-seahawks-tier-list#comment-438081
http://seahawksdraftblog.com/final-notes-seahawks-tier-list#comment-438081
http://seahawksdraftblog.com/final-notes-seahawks-tier-list#comment-438081
http://seahawksdraftblog.com/final-notes-seahawks-tier-list#comment-438081
Hugh Millen is digusted by this pick. No one had this guy even close to the first round
A lot like the Penny pick. Except he won’t be the backup to the backup. Joking. Relax.
Is Hugh Millen employed?
Which means it will be a great pick
If I remember correctly, Hugh didn’t like the frank clark pick either.
Millen also trashed the Frank Clark pick, and not because of the DV issue. He didn’t think Clark was much of a player.
Whatever football knowledge Millen possesses I don’t think much of it transfers to the draft and selecting players.
Seattle got their 5-tech. Biggest need but he tcan also slide inside and rush from the 3 too. That might be more important.
PC specifically said he could see him play anywhere along the line, especially in pass rushing situations.
1.29 – LJ Collier
2.5
3.28
4.12
4.16
4.22
4.30
5.4
5.21
Seahawk 2019 draft picks (so far):
1-29
2-5
3-29
4-12
4-16
4-22
4-30
5-4
5-21
First time time in a while where i am not scratching my head. This was a fantastic pick. I absolutely love it. Collier is a frikin bull dog! He engages with strength and quickness. He goes in hard and agressive on every play. I absolutely love this pick.
A+ for me.
It isn’t about if lj isn’t going to be a good player, it’s about draft position and value.. who can legit day he wouldn’t have been there at 37
Who can legit say he would though?
+12
Has all of these trade backs ever really worked? I look at the past 5 years of the draft and to me, it hasn’t worked at all and reason we’re in this decent state.
I loved what Atlanta did. They targeted OL and grabbed a guard and tackle. Beautiful picks.
The players that we picked well were draft picks that we moved UP for not back. Maybe Clark but that was off field.
Jarron Reed was a trade up and wasn’t Tyler Lockett a trade up target?
2017 draft is a disappointment. 2016 draft? 2015? 2014? I just think from Rd’s 1 – 4 during that era, we haven’t been good with the trade backs. Oh well… Maybe it changes in 2019.
Reed and Lockett were both trade ups, but those were made possible because the Seahawks had a bunch of picks available to trade (acquired by trading down). I would not be a bit surprised to see Schneider turn some of those 4th rounders into a 3rd.
+1
Anyone find it disconcerting that the highlight reel for the OL two picks after ours showed a clip of him dominating Collier? Lol, I know it doesn’t mean anything but not reassuring.
No because TCU had him play outta position like most college schemes.
There’s a reason he popped on tv down at the SR bowl.
This is a dude that’s gonna set an EDGE and play with one. On money downs you line him up at 3-tech.
He does come with risk. Close to 25 and doesn’t have great agility.
The age is killing me, not loving it.
It’s very Rashaad Penny esque. No doubt about it.
9 pick overall. Interesting to see what we’ll do with those fourths. Might hop back into the third with the fourths or stay pat and pad the roster with some depth and contributors
Weird that they chose to draft with #29 and trade #30 instead of the other way around. Wouldn’t the rookie wage scale mean they could have saved a few bucks by doing the opposite of that?
I mean if you’re trading with us for 29 that means you’re trading up to beat… ourselves to the podium? I don’t think a team would do that lol.
I have my fingers crossed for Byron Murphy or Juan Thornhill at 37. I’d take another DL or a WR like Deebo, McLaurin or Campbell
I think they go offense tommorow.
Irv Smith jr. maybe a possibility? Last chance at a top TE.
Maybe? I’d like them to add a safety.
Campbell *fingers crossed*
There are times that I wonder if the Hawks get too cute in the draft for their own good. But they do always put a competitive team on the field. I’ve got to give them that. LJ Collier? I can’t honestly say that I know much of anything about him. They must have seen something. Time will tell.
Ok, not good value and certainly will never be a great player, but I’ve seen the Hawks blow the first round more often than not and this time they at least got a ok player that will be a league average Dline player. Good anchor against the run, and is only a few cheeseburgers away from being a down tackle with some ability to rush. Will be interesting lined up at tackle beside Reed on third down, but still need a Clark/Avril replacement.
I feel quite confident in saying the LEO was never coming in round 1.
Seattle Seahawks: L.J. Collier, DE, TCU D+ Grade
“I thought the Seahawks would be on the clock for the 2020 NFL Draft by the time they made this pick. And it’s not a good one at that. Daniel Jeremiah just mentioned that L.J. Collier was his 56th-ranked player, and that matches my projection, as I had him No. 58. This is yet another reach in the 2019 NFL Draft. Collier was just a 1-year starter at TCU and just seems to be a solid rotational defensive end who thrives against the run. Seattle should have moved down and selected Collier or someone similar, though to the team’s credit, it already traded down twice.”
As I said, I like Walter, be he can be a bit emotionally involved in his own draft board.
I like the content of Walter’s website but I cant stand the guy’s personality and how full of himself he is. He’s like the uncle who thinks he’s way funnier than he actually is, and thinks he’s right about everything.
Totally agree. Though I think Walter is a good guy and gets good info, he does get too personal with regards to his own opinions. Which is why i find his draft grades funny.
It’s not great value and I like Collier a lot.
I would’ve loved him a half round later
Remember when Bruce Irvin was a reach until we learned the Jets were about to take him in the first and most teams considered him the best pass rusher available that year.
Good. Reminds me of the Russel draft when we got a flat out F from most pundits. In hindsight RW and BWagz weren’t too shabby. Time will tell, but here’s hoping Collier balls out and we can watch the national (and local) pundits eat crow.
No one had a 1st round grade on him, so a business as usual for an early pick for the hawks.
When you look at the past drafts through 2013, we actually haven’t been that great.
http://www.drafthistory.com/index.php/teams/seahawks
Best selections were JReed & TLockett and both were trade ups, not trade downs. Clark fell to us but otherwise….
I love Flowers and hope he comes on. T2 and Shaq have upside, too. Otherwise, what have we drafted in past 5 yrs?
Wow you’re right! Theres like hardly any potential HOF’s! Solid drafts net starters and role players. Super amazing awesome drafts net HOF players with game wrecking ability. Cant expect that everytime. Hawks process is good, and they target who they like.
The Hawks have never equaled Earl Thomas and Russell Okung in the first round. And that was Schneider’s and Carrol’s first, wasn’t it? In that first round, they actually picked the big named/blue chips that were there to be had.
They have never had that high of picks since that year.
They did have number 6 and 14 at the time with needs everywhere.
I mean, when do we ever have the 6th and 14th pick in the First round? Not sure there’s a comparison
I think I would have preferred taking Montaze Sweat at 21 and trading the 29th to the Giants. Edge rush was # 1 priority. We would have lost 2 4th round picks, but Sweat was one of the best in the draft. As far as I know his medical condition was misdiagnosed at the combine, and we got a 2nd and 5th from the Giants anyway.
I was kind of thinking Sweat myself there, too. But what do I know? I had no idea lj was such a stud.
I was thinking the same thing myself.
However if the difference between Collier and Sweat is not huge, we might be better off the way we are now.
John Schneider: big cliff after the 3rd round…
Also John Schneider: let’s trade for as many 4th round picks as we can!
That cracks me up so much I can’t even tell you.
Maybe they come up in the 3rd for someone, but I hope it ‘s him seeing the board fall a big into the 4th round.
Lying season … not sure whether Schnieder was telling the truth about the cliff. At this stage I will wait and see how the rest of the draft goes.. then watch and see how the picks fit in during training camp and into the season. I have huge respect for Pete an how he integrates players into the lineup and John is a top notch talent evaluator and GM. What I am somewhat surprised about is that the Hawks seem to be moving away from some sparky players and combine results and looking more at tape and how the players actually play than just their measurables.
He was referring to DL prospects specifically. I doubt he said their were not great prospects at other positions, such as CB, OL or WR.
Let us never forget. Dave Gettleman galaxy brained himself.
Traded arguably one of if not the best Nose tackle in the league last year and then swapped OBJ for a… what’s that you say? Nose tackle. 😂😂😂
Dumpster fire.
Sometimes I get this gnawing feeling that the Hawks think they know more than anyone else about the overlooked players in the draft.
They needed a DL and got one. Problem is the DL is still worse today than it was a week ago. More work to do but Schneider did say he loved the DL depth in this draft and said it’ll be good through the end of the 3rd round (then a big drop-off). That means they should be adding another DL later tomorrow.
This leads me to believe it’s time for an Ohio State WR early tomorrow. Or perhaps another trade down and still getting their receiver.
I like the trades down because now they have picks for other spots we haven’t talked about as much such as getting a guard. Currently, we have two starters who are older, with injury history, and not signed long-term and a solid back-up who is injury prone (and a back-up who seems to be a second round bust). Would be good to get a (potentially) good guard with one of those fourth round picks.
They are getting younger which always translates into getting hungrier, too (which really benefitted them this past year). If they play their cards right, they can right this ship in terms of being legit SB contenders again (not simply contenders to be good and maybe make the playoffs – how spoiled we’ve become, right?).
They do their best work on day 2-3. If anyone needs proof look at their 5th and 6th round picks last year.
All-pro caliber punter, a high ceiling LEO who came on like gangbusters in the last quarter of the season when most teams are playing their best ball, and a college safety who they converted to corner that had no business being as good as he was year 1.
You don’t think I know that?
Lol.
Of course I do. I highly respect your opinion and writing. I was agreeing with you and probably shoulda put ‘for people who don’t think they do their best work on day 2-3.
Rob
Shouldn’t this: Pick #30 was traded to the New York Giants for #132 & #142
Read: Pick #30 was traded to the New York Giants for #37 & #132 & #142?
Might also need to update your list of current picks as well.
Nice work!!!
I’m super disapointed with the returns of the tradebacks. Collier isn’t as good as Clark.
Clark = 10+ sacks last 3 yrs.
Collier = 0 sacks in his whole NFL career!
This checks out.
No one in this draft is my man. Time my tell, but it’s gonna be a #’s game to replace him. At least for now.
I think they took the best deals that were offered and to be honest we get Collier and 2nd next year for Clark and still working our first round for more picks. It works for me.
That’s not how this works, though.
The Hawks really love and are committed to that competition thing. They are always bringing in a bunch of young and hungry and overlooked players and coaching them up to compete with each other. I have to say, in all fairness, it’s worked out well for them and us fans.
Finding late round gems is fantastic.
Blowing the first round year after year is not.
The Hawks are just not the sexy draft pickers near the top of the draft board. They do the later rounds better than most all teams, however. They have their formula. And it has worked. It just hasn’t been buzz worthy at the top of the draft board since Thomas and Okung.
The idea we do great late round work is antiquated. There is a reason we lose all our preseason games now, we have no debth and that is due to years of sub par drafting. It wasn’t the case in years 1-3. We have done a good job with our high d line picks, so here’s hoping. I don’t dislike the player, I dislike the spot we picked him in and the fact we could have had sweat. Getting a bunch of late round picks when even js says the talent drops of after 3 seems odd
Young and hungry is great, but most times it does not replace true talent.
I can’t belive how cutesy the hawks have become. They gamble to get sweat but end up with a short fat and slow DE who is more of a run stopper.
Embarrassing.
Your posts are embarrassing
Spare me the drama and salt.
Either explain why you disagree, or don’t say anything. The personal attacks don’t belong here.
What are you talking about? If they wanted sweat they would have taken him. Collier was obviously the target. Don’t despair before you even see him play.
After what Chris Mortensen said about how Sweat reacts to coaching (doesn’t like getting shouted at) from Sweat’s own line coach at Mississippi State, it made perfect sense why he dropped so far, and why the Seahawks didn’t draft him at 21.
He’s a freakishly long and fast defensive linemen who had great production and blew up the combine.
He fell because of a seriously freaky medical concern.
You’re still ignoring the fact that it looks like there were character concerns. Also, Collier’s pressure rate was at the same level as Sweat.
How many times has a freakishly long and fast defensive lineman in college failed to impress in the NFL?
Before the draft started it was stated that the medical concern was false and he was cleared. There was no medial concern remaining at the start of the draft.
Captain Jack woulda 100 percent taken Ben Banogu instead.
Collier’s tape is awesome. He was a beast. Everybody short fat slow when you a stan for Sweat
There it was, Pete mentioned L.J’s pressure percentage and 5 technique ability.
and complexity of defense he played in…..
He wasn’t a man crush for me at all, but I definitely understand the pick. We had Bryant and Clemons then Bennet and Avril, and once we had them both on Contract we Drafted Clark, half because he fell to us and half because he could equally spell our 5 technique and our Leo. The price tag for Clark was insanely high, and the draft capital we got back was vary good. It’s costs less to have guys that can only play Leo or 5 tech by a lot and of scheme supported just as effective ala Clemons’s and Bennet. The interesting thing to me, is he seems like overlap with Green who had a promising preseason last year, but both can play Dt or De so maybe it’s not a total lack of faith in Green. They obviously have more faith in Martin or have someone in mind they know they’ll have the opportunity to draft as a true Leo that they really like than I expected.
Really late to the party but I have a good reason. I got to be honest once I heard Burns, Ferrel and Gary were off the board I thought we would be out of the first round. However I can’t be happier than the pick of Collier. He has awesome speed to power. There are times where he kind of reminds me of Jevon Kearse. Day definitely got one of their guys. I can’t wait for tomorrow. Hopefully they find a way to get Gardner Johnson and Walker. Oh and go do yourselves a favor and go watch avengers end game. It’s amazing
Collier is a 9th Percentile athlete. Not sure where you see the speed part of the equation.
Transition speed to power is a technical trait not got to do with athleticism per se
I honestly did feel that they gave up on Glowinski too soon. Water under the bridge.
The bottom line is this. Will we be 10-6 or better and make the playoffs next year, and will we be a Super Bowl competitive in the following two years barring catastrophic injuries? If they pull this off, you can’t argue with their approach. The proof will be in the pudding. Time will tell.
Good job, Rob! You nailed it with the Collier pick.
He was pretty top-notch, I thought. It got dicey after about the 24th pick or so. It really became a a beauty in the eyes of the beholder thing.
JS said there was adrop in talent after the 3round and it appears he was right cause all the others teams know it to and only offer 4th and 5th rounders.
VMAC visit or known connection with the 1st pick. Let’s see if the first pick tomorrow is someone they weren’t connected too as is usually the case.
Who are the best Leo’s left?
D’Andre Walker
Chase Winovich
Christian Miller
Maxx Crosby
Austin Bryant
Chase Winovich, D’Andre Walker, Ben Banogu, Christian Miller (may be more SAM), Maxx Crosby
Don’t forget the X-man…
As a big Husky fan, I just thought it was great to see Kaleb McGary get picked in the first round. Good on him. He always struck me as a grateful sort.
Wish I could get pumped about a 24 year old DE whose ceiling is probably around 6 sacks/year. This team continues to utterly sh*t the bed when it comes to value with their top picks. It’s becoming embarrassing.
I will get raked over the coals on this, but this team has to do better at the beginning of the draft. Ifedi – McDowell – Penny – Collier…not good enough. This FO continues to take a $100 Bill and turn it into $70 of ones. “Yea, but look how many bills we got?!”
Here’s the catch, I really like Collier – but a non-pass rushing 5T in R1 for a 4-3 team is just stupid. He is a 9th percentile athlete…let’s hope he bucks every trend and truly is Michael Bennett. Their first round drafting is like their play style – looking for the smallest margin of error and hope to hold on. Very frustrating to watch.
I agree with you. I prefer quality over quantity
I unequivocally believe their #1 problem is getting too cute in R1. Like they have to nail the exact position they want a guy…and every year they seem to have to settle for someone. I think they clearly got burned this year…they dropped too low and missed out on the true pass rushing talent; which is why we settle for Collier – a player I like that has no business in R1.
The problem is that their late round prowess is disappearing. Take away Russell Wilson and this team under PC/JS is probably a perennial 6-7 win team. The roster is lacking way too much high end talent to settle on someone like Collier. Very frustrating.
You nailed it exactly. I agree. Take away RW and they would be 6-8 win team, full of a lot of average rated players.
Dead on. No team in the draft gets less production out of their top pick, year after year. The FO got lucky in mid rounds in a few consecutive drafts and massively value their biggest assets as a result.
If you’re sure you’re the smartest guy in the room, you’re probably the sucker. And at this point, their run of absolute, laughable, pathetic drafting at the back end of the first round should have roundly convonced them that no, they aren’t actually out smarting the entire rest of the league.
His pressure percentage is 20%. Bennett wasn’t an all time great athlete either. This guy has a good second move and the exact attitude the Seahawks like. He had more sacks and tackles for loss than Gary who went at 12. Measurables are great but really only go so far, most NFL tackles are going to stop your first move.
You act like they knew Malik McDowell was a bust when you have no idea the quality of NFL player he’d be.
Ifedi is a solid starting right tackle, who was taken when the team had a different coaching staff and idea of what they wanted from prospects.
Penny has been in the league for one year and had a decent season considering he was held on the bench and started the season injured.
I get the temptation to be frustrated at the lack of all pro selections but you’re ignoring Lockett, Flowers, Clark (who is the only other linemen they have taken this early other than McDowell and was a complete stud).
Seems like a pretty negative take on a team that just went to the playoffs, retained nearly every important piece, and gained 4 draft picks while still grabbing the guy they wanted.
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Shhhhhh
So Collier and Green at 5 according to Pete. Martin and a rookie tomorrow or day at LEO?
Hahaha. JS said the board went according to plan and they don’t like that.
Pete said the depth on the WRs and Safeties let them wait on those positions.
I’m really thinking Juan Thornhill/CGJ or an Ohio State WR tomorrow. I have a feeling that’s where they’ll want to get their guy.
phrase to remember from PC/JS past: Tilt the field talent
Campbell would be a nice pick at 37
I keep circling back to this guy as a WR target for Seattle….. will he get over drafted, perhaps, but his play making ability with the ball in his hands.. exceptional.
Percy Harvin minus the tude
He would fit. I wonder about Metcalf too.
This could be a spot where a guy, such as Perry, could be brought in to play the position.
Pick up a veteran player for a modest amount of cash. Then in 2020, dive into the draft with both feet to find their guy for LEO long-term.
Germaine Pratt at 92?
Please explain the difference between Collier and Rasheem Green. Last year when we drafted Green all the pundits told me he was a year early from being an impact player, and if he stayed in school he would have been a first rounder this year. So now we have two high draft picks that play the exact same position, without having seen what Green can develop into. I think a first rounder is a high price to pay to hedge our bet at 5 tech.
Green isn’t the same type of player. Could easily move inside full time. Much more of a classic inside/out. Collier is a base-end who may end up kicking inside but it’ll be more like Bennett.
One reason why I focus on and post these. Seattle loves this stuff.
LJ Collier’s backstory:
https://www.timesrecordnews.com/story/sports/high-school/2019/03/23/tcu-defensive-end-l-j-collier-climbing-up-nfl-draft-boards-munday-moguls/3257662002/
It’s not the picks, it’s this stuff. Why I love the draft.
Let’s get it big man!
https://mobile.twitter.com/Seahawks/status/1121628391562551296
Hahahha never seen someone more fired up than Pete
This guy is gonna fit in great hahahaha
Let’s get it Lawrence Jr.
Draft clue:
‘Can’t help myself’ the four tops.
They have 4 picks in the 4th round. They just couldn’t help themselves?
https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-Value-Chart.asp?RequestTeam=sea
And with their first pick the Seahawks select …. Pressure Percentage!
It still strucks me after all these years that Rob seems to be the only one that listens carefully when PCJS speak.
By the way, Rob, after your well-deserved holidays from SDB after the draft why not writing an article on how pressure percentage translated to the NFL over the last years. I guess PCJS did their analysis already.
Happy to… if I can find the data.
1.29. L.J. Collier DL
2.37. Irv Smith Jr. TE
3.92. Trysten Hill DT
4.114. Ben Banogu DE
4.118. Marvell Tell NCB
4.124. Gary Jennings WR
4.132. Dru Samia OG
5.142. Greg Gaines DT
5.159. Derrek Thomas CB
2.37 – WR Parris Campbell
4.124 – RB/FB Trevon Wesco
Otherwise, I dig the draft you posted.
I really hope they go back to Dline, whether Ferguson or Bango, I really enjoyed D’Andre Walker tape, thanks V12. I didn’t realize Ferguson hadn’t been picked yet, I’d feel pretty solid about how we are replacing Clark’s production if that happens.
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L.J. Collier had 54 total pressures last season, ranking 9th out of 231 qualifying Power 5 edge defenders. #Seahawks
#2 among interior guys and eligible 5 techs
Gotta love the 6-2 283, that’s a big compact man who won’t be getting out leveraged in the run game either.
81 7/8″ wingspan to stuff the gap
Tony Pauline and several other draft websites kept mentioning all week of Senior Bowl practices that Collier dominated the one-on-ones.
Practice player of the week LT Chuma Odega said Collier was the best player he faced in the one-on-ones, very active with a variety of moves.
“Collier lined up at both end and tackle on Tuesday and got wins from both spots. He was very active all day.”
“TCU defensive end L.J. Collier helped himself with a strong opener on Tuesday. Collier was a good run defender for the Horned Frogs last season, but he showed some nice pass rush in the one-on-ones. He used his strength to push Washington right tackle Kaleb McGary into the turf and then closed on the quarterback to get one win. Collier manhandled Kansas State’s Dalton Risner for another win.”
Collier was the most productive lineman at the Senior Bowl, notching two sacks and two tackles for loss, totaling 36 yards lost for the opposing offense. He also forced a fumble.
“I believe I’m the best defensive lineman in the draft and I’ve shown that,” Collier said. “I’ve shown that at the senior bowl with the best of the best. The best offensive linemen in the country — I ran through them and around them. I think I proved everything I needed to prove.”
The Senior Bowl made me a fan, but after the combine I went back to watch Banogu and THE ONLY PRESSURE HE GOT WAS CREATED BY COLLIER MOVING THE QB OFF HIS SPOT.
Collier isn’t Frank Clark
But he’s gonna be a great pro and he plays the game the right way.
“I hate LJ Collier. I know he’s terrible and Seattle’s FO is too. My expectations are paramount to our success. We need a sexy flashy player and a good grade from Mel Kiper to succeed. I know everything about LJ Collier and can literally see the future. I know better than these professionals. If our first round pick isn’t a hall of famer I’m gonna deface the offices at the VMAC”
/s
Look. I get it. You wanted a 1.5 10 yard split.
You spent all year coveting the top 5 DEs in the draft and overrating everyone else that fit your profile of what we’re looking for.
We took the guy we wanted. He has an obvious fit.
If you really think you’re better at the draft than John Schneider then all I can tell ya is don’t break an arm j***ing yourself off
You build depth by drafting g
BPA, we are constantly only drafting for need. And we reach when doing so. No one would have an issue if he had been a second round selection