Welcome to the live blog for the 2021 NFL draft. I’ll be giving reaction to every Seahawks pick. Feel free to use this as an open thread but please no tipping picks.
#129 — the Seahawks trade down with Tampa Bay
Seattle gives their fourth round pick to the Buccs for #137 and #217
#137 — Tre Brown (CB, Oklahoma)
I didn’t anticipate the Seahawks taking a 5-9, 185lbs corner with 30 3/8 inch arms. I didn’t have him on my board because really his main plus point was coverage on special teams. I suspect this might be about replacing Neiko Thorpe on special teams. However, he’s experienced in man coverage and he’s competitive. If you want to blitz a lot, you need to be able to cover in man. He had 12 recorded 1v1 snaps against receivers at the Senior Bowl and he was the only corner to make an interception (he had two). Brown also forced five incompletions, most among corners.
#208 — Stone Forsyth (T, Florida)
The Seahawks used #217 and #250 to trade into this spot. I wasn’t a fan of Forsyth in the early rounds — and he was being projected as a day two pick by many — but at this stage in the draft? I’m all in. We’re talking about a tough, physical blocker with great size (6-8, 317lbs) and agility (4.63 short shuttle). He wasn’t an explosive tester but that’s something to work on as a project tackle. The fact is he has the potential to start one day and in the sixth round, you can’t ask for much more than that.
I was live on air with KJR when the Seahawks made their pick. You can find my full segment among their live coverage here (and I’ve tweeted a clip below).
Was on live with @Slickhawk12 when the #Seahawks traded up for Stone Forsythe. It’s a great value pick with a chance to land a high-end starter in the later rounds.
You can watch the full section among KJR’s coverage here: https://t.co/aTi0o2Wj3A pic.twitter.com/bbLsWaJ4Ni
— Rob Staton (@robstaton) May 1, 2021
Reaction to the Dee Eskridge pick
GMs and HCs always say they got the guy they wanted but I can confirm that Dee Eskridge was the player thaf John Schneider and the Seahawks were hoping would be there at No. 56.
— Jim Nagy (@JimNagy_SB) May 1, 2021
In January I interviewed @JimNagy_SB before the Senior Bowl and he brought up D’Wayne Eskridge. If you want to know why the #Seahawks drafted him, just watch this… pic.twitter.com/iYMLNJoJyD
— Rob Staton (@robstaton) May 1, 2021
Finally a decent time for EU. Go Hawks!
Amen!
Rob,
You should be able to get a solid nap between picks.
I slept from 7am to 1:30pm! 🙃
I need it…
Went to bed at 5:30am and was up at 9.
Bears and Seahawks have drafted most Pro Bowlers on day 3 since 2010 (4 each).
I knew 3 of them were Sherm, Kam and KJ, but had to google it to find the 4th Pro Bowler is Michael Dickson. Sign him to an extension and save $ this year too like with Lockett. He made league min. to around 1 mil. until this year he’s making about 3.5 mil., more than the previous 3 years combined.
Is there a list of the good TEF offensive linemen still available?
Drew Dalman — 3.31
Trey Smith — 3.30
Sadarius Hutcherson — 3.29
Landon Young — 3.24
Dan Moore — 3.08
Brendan Jaimes — 3.03
D’Ante Smith — 2.97
David Moore — 2.95
With 33″ arms?
Thank you, Rob! Hoping for some trench guys today.
OL, CB, DT, BPA. What about Melifonwu, CB Syracuse? Physically, he seems to have the length they like.
The Lions got him at #101
Got it…. I haven’t been able to tune in this morning.
Favorite moments of draft so far:
– Cleveland Brown fan dressed as Macho Man Randy Savage
– Sean McVay with an oil painting of Roger Goodell on the wall
– Mike Golic accidentally calling Devante Smith “Devante Davis” at the podium
With only 3 picks in the draft, I’ll take any humor I can find. 🙂
Don’t forget about the “2nd pick of the 44th round” (or whichever it was)
I totally forgot that! Drew Pearson. 🙂
Was really hoping Kelvin Joseph could slip to us in the 45th round.
The production person having to shoo the Ravens lady doing the Ray Lewis dance off the stage so the NFL person could make it to the podium without getting smacked in the face was pretty great.
Twitter gold strikes again! 😂😂
https://twitter.com/Hawk/status/1388227639740014592
Lol, very good!
That pick announcement was one of the most embarrassing things I’ve ever seen. Not a good look for the UK.
What’s with Dylan Moses? He was a round 1 prospect and now…is it just injury concerns or is there more to it?
LOVE Michael Carter to NYJ
Ideal for their scheme
What a draft they’re having
Yeah they’re really killing it and they have 5 more picks…
And we can Thank PC for giving them the extra ammunition for this draft as well.
Yup. Great player, great fit.
Rhamondre Stevenson to keep a safety in the box and the speedy Wrs in 1/1s?
Tyler Shelvin later to clog the middle?
Jets and Broncos are like the bullies stealing all our favorite toys this draft…
Jabril Cox as a coverage LB for KJ replacement.
Fitterer learned well in Seattle…
Would love if we can pull off a similar trade for 3 picks at 129.
Worth trying to trade one of next year’s R4s for a R5 + R6 this year if we could get something like this?
R4- D’Ante Smith
R5- Shaun Wade
R6- Buddy Johnson
R7- Ta’Quon Graham
100%
Sure, but how do you get a 5 AND a 6 for a 4 next year.
You talk to the Falcons or the Vikings who have tons of picks this year and might like to shift some of that stock to next year, which is supposed to be a much deeper draft.
Maybe to a team with comp. picks in the 5th and 6th, then they’re practically in the top of the 6th and 7th.
https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-Value-Chart.asp
According to this trade value chart, a 4th is worth a mid 5th and a 5th comp. or high 6th. Next year’s 4th should be little less, maybe Atlanta’s 2 comp. 5s, possibly throw in a 7 from next year.
The following year is usually considered a round less in value, is it not? That’s more than a little.
That’s why I mentioned we may need to throw in a 2022 7th as well to get the 2 comp. 5s. And as late comp. 5s they’re practically 6s.
My brother and his wife just made a R4 addition to their family! 👶 Didn’t even have to give up any picks to move up!
Congrats!
Gotta contribute this season already 🙂 Congrats!
Thanks! More of a developmental prospect, but huge upside for the future. Will look to add weight to his frame quickly. 🙂
What’s the kid’s Relative Athletic Score? Congrats uncle Sea Mode.
Fantastic news, Sea Mode! With 33″ arms?
No, but good bloodlines… 😉
Congrats man!!
Slot corner with quickness to matchup with guys Amadi, others cannot? It’s rare they have a smaller corner to cover smaller or quicker players. I’m intrigued.
Congrats to them Sea Mode
Congratulations!
I look forward to your Nagy interview every year. This year was a classic with his comments about Eskridge. Kudos and thank you, Rob.
Tip of the hat to Sea Mode who brought Eskridge to our attention in January.
Thx! Rare hit after many years of misses!
Yes! Sea Mode, Volume 12 and Rob are excellent scouts. Any site would be fortunate to have one like them. These guys have bringing it for years.
Yeah huge props on that one! I still remember your comment clear as day and then going and watching the highlights and immediately wanting him on the team.
A draft clue is up if anyone is bored and wants to pass the time:
https://twitter.com/PeteCarroll/status/1388530702665150465
Any players nicknamed the Italian Stallion?
I like the suggestion of “Rocky” top for Trey Smith. 1st Round talent with overblown medical issues.
Someone needs to break it to Pete that Creed Humphrey was already drafted. 😉
Lol
Someone whose Dad played in the NFL?
Darn, there went Drew Dalman to the Falcons
Yep. 🙁
My last hope for a C.
I still like Trey Hill. Big , long, strong C.
Maybe Trey Hill in Rd. 7?
He won’t be there in the 7th. If he was i would run to the podium with pick 250
I don’t like what Miami has done with all those picks…
But Denver, Baltimore, Philly, Pitt, Carolina, Detroit and Indy are killing it (sad face).
Dallas is building a brand new D this year
DQ
Seems like the pandemic factor is coming into play in this round. Some players being taken that ESPN has ranked 262, 281, 252 … almost UDFA territory. The difference in teams boards is starting to show pretty strongly.
Now hoping for D’Ante Smith
I’m afraid Rams take some revenge on us for yesterday and grab him.
Hope not…….they’re up now
I’m thinking box safety
Well duh. How stupid of me
Don’t jinx it, Big Mike!
I’ll be on KJR’s live internet stream at 1:30pm PST
Fantastic Rob! Have a link? Will it be recorded so we can listen to it later?
I’ll post it out there. Check Slickhawk’s twitter timeline too
Thank you to the NFL for letting the Rams get Bobby Brown.
FFS
Good god, now we need all the OL players available.
???? please xpound
All these teams passed on him and he’s really good
Hate this so much. Him and Aaron Donald twice a year, would be nice to have drafted a C to match up with that interior.
But hey, we’ll get to watch Pocic get used against LA so there’s that.
Yeah, a stud C was at the top of my want list.
Pocic isn’t that bad. He’s better than what the rams have at center
Rats. There goes Bobby Brown to the Rams.
Yep, and they have 2 more 4ths. One more before us. Tough draft to watch.
The Rams taking Bobby Brown at 117 hurts
A Rob favorite for DT adds to Rams tranches:(
That stings. But we’re going oline anyways (I think)
Looks like Rams just got a trade back.
Ugh, Bobby Brown III to the Rams … only know him from Rob’s reporting, but here’s hoping he flops!
Bummer, Minnesota got my guy Kene Nwangwu
Rhamondre Stevenson to New England. Good pick. Shame
I’m calling the pick as oline. Let’s see
I’m calling defense
With Shelvin and Brown off the board all of a sudden… I’m thinking the interior dline is pretty dry now. Bit worried about that position group without Reed.
Daviyon?
I’m calling it as happening during a commercial break.
sadly likely
Dante Smith OT/G or Shaun Wade S/CB would be great, but hope we trade down and get 3 picks like the Panthers did early rd. 4.
I’ll call a trade back
certainly possible
Not surprised to see John Bates go this early
Maybe the Hawks go for that former UW recruit that went to OSU, Togia.
NFLN just went to commercial so looks like our pick will be live, if we don’t trade down as Ton predicted
Im sure there is a big sigh of relief at both nfl and espn that the hawks traded back, still time to go to commercial for the hawks pick
Hope D.Smith doesn’t end up with the Colts.
Wade does make a lot of sense for the Hawks, PC being the former secondary coach.
Would people want Wade or Smith?
Gonna guess Pittsburgh takes OL
iirc they haven’t taken any yet so wouldn’t be a surprise
Robert Rochell is a good shout, has all the tools, and Pete always thinks he can coach someone up.
It appears no trade back again.
Wrong!
Hopefully something good, given some good players on board
never mind. Tampa trades up.
Shaun Wade at 129 please
Maybe we get our trade down here
My guesses are Trey Smith, Shaun Wade, and Daviyon Nixon.
Trade with Tampa Bay
We got a trade back!
8 spots down
With TB? Wonder what we got?
Looks like we’ve just moved back
I think we picked up a 6th to move back 8 spots, to #137.
Looks like we now have #137, #217, and #250.
That hat on the Colts pick announcer was ridiculous.
Terrible. Owner’s daughter
It’s Kentucky Derby day. Ridiculous hats are required.
https://twitter.com/PFF/status/1388535308115980292
Mint juleps and thundering hooves … love the Derby and horse-racing. Hawks need a couple horses for the OL, but not looking good.
Where you guys seeing it? I’m on NFLN
It’s on the ticker at the bottom
Ah I wasn’t lookin’ at that. Thanks.
Just in the bottom bar on NFLN.
My guess, according to draft chart, is that we get R6P188 in return from NE. 4th pick of R6.
Whoops, why am I looking at NE’s picks? Brady connection and sleep depravation, I guess…
Field Yates
@FieldYates
Seahawks trade: Pick 129
Bucs trade: Pick 137, 217
10:10 AM · May 1, 2021
Sounds pretty good to me, had to do it.
Was hoping atleast a 6th.
Lol. I guess is a 6th
It is a 6th
It is a 6th…
It is a 6th. Just a low 6th.
It is a 6th
I was hoping for more than that.
We lost a couple+ points in the trade, should’ve pressed for their 1 point 7th rounder too.
https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-Value-Chart.asp
There goes Dan Moore. I was hoping he’d last to Seattle later
yeah, that would have been a great pick for the future
…love the way Pitt and Baltimore draft
With Bobby Brown off the board a trade down was always the best move for me.
Two good picks by the Rams today
Gonna be so tough to beat them this year.
Bobby Brown, Dan Moore, Rochell all in like 5 picks all my dreams keep getting dashed.
I can’t believe a team looked at the available CBs and thought Camryn Bynum was the best available. I just…
Another clue up from PC.
https://twitter.com/PeteCarroll/status/1388537818813665280
I’m curious like a cat!
He never gives the answer for his clues. Just BS
Actually, he just did yesterday for past years’ clues.
(but yes, it’s all just him having a bit of fun)
Pete giving us “clues” this year is even more irritating than usual.
Did you see Trey Smith’s comment about “never forgetting” his draft slide? He would be a great pick if they are OK with the medicals.
Totally agree. Admittedly, as a Tennessee fan, I am a little biased. Okay, a lot biased.
The browns have so much talent on their roster, if baker mayfield is half decent they will be hard to beat
Heck trade down a few spots again! We still have a LOT of needs at a variety of positions.
Tylan Wallace such a Ravens pick
They just get it
+1
screams Ravens
Leave it to the Ravens to pick one of the obvious talents left.
Great pick for the Ravens. Doubling down on WR with Bateman and Wallace.
If we didn’t have so many other needs Daviyon Nixon would be so tempting, an interior pass-rusher has been their white whale for years.
Ravens need wr in a bad way so why not grab 2 in a great draft? Their draft is starting to look really good
What is up with Daviyon Nixon? Weren’t we thinking he was a sure fire first rounder after the season? Was he that bad of a tester?
Apparently he has a learning disability and some character concerns. But as long as the guy is coachable I would take a shot, you don’t have to be in Mensa to rush the passer.
Trade comp for those looking for it:
Seahawks trade: Pick 129
Bucs trade: Pick 137, 217
Not much, but every little bit helps
And immediately as I submit I see cha’s posted it already
https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/status/1388542429838598147
How ugly that looks, and we almost had a similar drama here, glad we don’t live it.
Rodgers is really pitching a first-class fit this year.
Ridiculous. Is that because of the Jordan Love pick last year? Or does he hate the draft this year too?
Ah, it’s nothing Rob… just another mistaken, media-driven story!
How I wish Russell would make the same demand for JS’s job.
Russell’s problems were supposedly with PC, not JS
So, PCJS sole response to Russ’s plea for OL help is a declining Gabe Jackson. That’s not going to do it … another year playing behind a sub-standard/maybe not horrible OL for Russ. Ridiculous. Will affect the running game, too … not just a Russ thing.
Stories like this make me appreciate how PCJS were able to handle all the egos.
Time for wade? Or who do you prefer? Another trade down?
Smith
Wade or D’Ante Smith.
Does Buddy Johnson last all the way to our late R6 pick…?
Smith might be better
I’d pick here and trade a next year’s 4th for a 5th this year.
I’d argue CB is as big a need as OT. And for me, Wade is a better prospect than Smith.
There goes Rob’s boy, Ron Cup.
Simon Foot
Graham Pie
John Lettuce
Ian Book
Wow! NO took Ian Book.
Such an odd pick. They could have got him in the 6th or 7th round
Or UDFA even.
Hurry up and get back from commercial in time!
Arizona jumped right above Seattle
Cards trade up right in front of us.
I think they will pick a CB.
Well, you got that right.
What are the Cards up to? Poaching a player from Seattle?
Can’t imagine Seattle wanted short armed Marco Wilson
😂 damnit! there goes the entire Seahawks draft board!
No, they were looking for shorter arms than that.
Bet they take Shaun Wade
Happy to be wrong.
Rob, don’t faint!
Stay in the no needles zone.
Pick is in!
Wow. Surprised. I imagine Vol will like this pick.
Maybe they have changed their CB ideals after all.
Looks like the pick is Tre Brown, huge departure from tradition as he only has 29 inch arms IIRC
NFL page says 30 3/8
who?
I don’t get the lack of consistency with their concept of who their guys are these past few years
A Seahawks fit I liked, but thought he would go later.
I didn’t see this coming. We need a CB but with what Rams are doing, we need OL help asap.
Slot corner?
Very odd, as it seems like outside corner is more of a need.
He is supposed to be a special teams ace according to nfl.com. This must be our new gunner…says he plays with wild abandon as a gunner and is a special teams demon.
Cool!!! The Hawks now have THREE special teams “aces” in BBK, Barton & now Tre Brown. We’ll need them after Russ gets sacked again on 3rd & long.
I know him because I watch Oklahoma’s games all the time. He’s a ball hawk. No doubt.
And looks like the Bengals snatched up D’Ante Smith. Extremely unfortunate
We really must not have been interested in him.
not excited for that pick at all hoped for Shaun wade
He’s fast and explosive, can play outside. Maybe Seahawks altering CB profile. Smaller, but effective. I like the pick.
I actually really like that they’re going outside the 32″ arms thing, it worked with Reed and its not like theyve been unearthing great corners like they used too. The old man can still adapt.
I agree. PC saw how Reed was our best CB through the 2nd half of last year, so maybe he broke the mold for having to draft a tall CB with 32″ arms.
Brown will kill on ST.
Do they see him as a nickel CB or have they adjusted their physical profile for outside CB?
He did have a very good week at the Senior Bowl. At PFN, Senior Bowl Week according to Tony Pauline, on Tuesday – “Brown showed a lot of smooth footwork and good hands in one-on-ones, specifically against Demetric Felton. Wednesday – What a day for Tre Brown. Based on my National Team Senior Bowl practice report, he constantly had people talking. His footwork in warmups looked great, he was a nightmare for receivers in one-on-ones, and he had an interception as well. Very good day for Brown. Off Thursday. Overall analysis – Brown had arguably the best practice of anyone Wednesday. He stuck to his assignment and made several great reads, one that led to an interception. He’s going to do well at the next level.”
https://www.profootballnetwork.com/2021-senior-bowl-practice-report-national-team/2/
I’m not familiar with Tre Brown so I can’t comment on him but I don’t understand what’s going on with Wade. Why is he falling so far?
We are witnessing the end of the Seahawks. They no longer have an identity. They just seem to be flailing about. What a shame.
Disagree. This DB has character, and speed. Tho maybe not length. He did very well at the Senior Bowl, which seems to be the Hawks metric. He’s a bit of a ball hawk. I like that Carroll is being flexible on size etc. There are great undersized DBs. This could work out.
Yo, what??
Tre Brown made some huge plays against Texas and Iowa State in back to back Big 12 championship games.
So let me get this right we only have 4 picks and We could have Shaun Wade , DAnte Smith or Trey Smith but instead take a tiny CB who is good in special teams coverage?
Yeah… seems like a profile better obtained as an UDFA
Nobody was talking about Brown as UDFA after what he did at the Senior Bowl.
You might second guess drafting a CB but this kid is a good CB.
He said “profile,” and he’s not wrong about that. This kid hasn’t played in the slot, can’t play outside, and will most likely just be a special teamer. That “profile” is stupid to go after in R4.
Passing on D’Ante Smith for yet another smaller DB to add to the competition is a tough pill for me to swallow right now.
I agree.
A potential future starter at Tackle is way more difficult to find.
Undersized, speedy CBs should be much easier to obtain.
A diminutive CB who doesn’t play slot, to boot.
This is what CBS Sports has to say about Tre Brown:
Gave it a grade of A
So he competes with Ugo Amadi and Marquise Blair moves to compete at FS? How many of these guys do we need?
It’s a terrible use of limited resources.
Well, we keep moving Blair to different positions.
Maybe outside corner is next for him.
Maybe they just liked his super aggressiveness. He’s one of those caged-animal guys, always bouncing up and down like he can’t wait for the next play to begin.
He actually reminds me a bit of Amadi in some ways.
I dont have any proof of this, but I genuinely think he’s going to be added to the outside corner competition. I think their profile requirements have changed.
I mean they signed Randall to play CB, and he would previously have just been a slot as well.
My favourite players often seem to end up in the AFC North
Steelers again.
Rob,
So what do you think we take with our next 2 picks and what good value players still remain that are on your list?
It’s rounds 6-7… those are fliers. We’re in Jimmy Staten territory
Ok, I hope we get him then.
That’s why this division is trending up.
When you have so few picks, get a clear cut starter not a special teams project. This one is a bit disappointing, as much as I try to judge players after I watch them play for us.
I’d rather have them swallow their pride and bring back Richard and use a pick on a OT or C.
Rob, they mentioned Dee Eskridge as a possibility at gunner as well yesterday.
Of course the Chiefs get Kaindoh
So we now have three DBs whose best fit is in the slot.
Excuse me if I don’t really get it. Did DJ Reed really upend an entire 8 years of Seahawks draft philosophy?
Perhaps Flowers and Dunbar turned them off from long tall corners.
Flowers turned me off corners in general 😂
Stack the box! Lol
Didn’t I see he’s a kick returner too?
Worried about the depth in the trenches. But I feel better about corner. This was a big need.
Damn Buddy Johnson to the Steelers. What a draft they’re having.
Looks like the Tre Brown pick leaked out to Seattle media a few minutes before the selection.
Tre Brown || Oklahoma Sooners Defensive Back || Career Highlights
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDwaPF2AW34&ab_channel=TheBreakshot
Thanks for posting that. Dude is quick.
With all the small speedy WR’s in our division, and with the way Seattle has been hurt by underneath routes and fly sweeps turned into big plays by those small WRs, this pick actually makes sense to me. I just saw his profile/highlights on TV and he looks like a good, twitchy, aggressive player. It’s better than a long CB who can’t really cover – We’ve had enough of those guys in the past few years.
If special teams was the reason they took a slot CB, I’d have better liked Avery Williams, CB(slot)/PR/KR, from BYU, as a player with REAL special team value (9 return TD’s in career and great punt returner). He might still be around as an UDFA maybe.
Seahawks also love Senior Bowl week standouts, and Brown played well there.
Don’t pretend to know much about Brown but feisty competitor sounds good to me. Looks like we are doubling down on kick returners as well.
Seattle seems to be in a place of mediocrity and I have no excitement for this team anymore they don’t want to be better they seem fine being an ok team
Can he play FS in 22?
Looks like the Rams maybe get their Everett replacement with Jacob Harris. They don’t need yet another WR.
Harris is one of my favorite WR’s that I’ve said is comparable to Metcalf, I had hoped he would be a Seahawk, oh well.
Next after him I see WR-Jalen Camp as a somewhat similar player. Unless WR-Marquez Stevenson is still available?
Of course Dante Smith went 2 picks later to the Bengals. Think RW will throw a fit like Aaron Rodgers if we don’t draft an OL?
“The Seahawks must fire John Schneider.”
Cracks me up how so many fans think they know whats better for this team in the draft than there own front office. Just accept the picks and educate yourselves about the player they selected.
What an absolute douchey post.
‘Accept you know nothing plebs and kiss the feet of your masters’
Know we dont always see eye to eye Rob but this is nailed on. Difficult to see the process righr now.
I don’t know Rob. Sure, Hoggs could have worded it more politely, but my takeaway is not as harsh. I agree with the acceptance and education part from the perspective of approaching each pick with curiosity and optimism that maybe we found a gem (of course any pick could be a bust too). I do also think people can be as happy, mad, or other as they want to be and wouldn’t try to silence others’ opinions. To each their own is my motto (taught to me years ago when my opinions were too rigid, and has since helped me find acceptance with things I cannot control.)
My take when reading comments of not liking the pick(s) because they could have found better or same value at later picks OR some other guy in same position is better than our pick disregards what the FO likely knows about each player that we as fans (better educated than most thanks to your hard work Rob) aren’t privy to and disregards the nuance of any other factors that may have gone into their decisions to pick player x,y, or z.
I would have loved to see Wade or Smith taken but probably only because you (Rob) educated us about them. I don’t know Brown from a barn door but I’m excited to see what he’s about. Also, given the relative success of DJ Reed and Amadi, and potential for reproducing Thorpe’s gunner skills, despite Brown’s limited size, color me glass half full on this pick.
Plus, #BringShermHome
The “experts” are always right.
Yeah because the Hawks front office has nailed all their picks the last 5 years and always make the right decision. Wow”douche comment” is putting it nicely Rob.
No. It’s not putting it nicely. It was rude.
Maybe folks who don’t like that type of response should go to a board where it’s a lot more unicorns and rainbows. The endless, and I do mean endless, fan posts that are constantly saying that instead of criticizing the front office we should bow to the higher authority are tiresome and completely off track because as Trevor said above you, it’s not like the Seahawks’ front office has killed the draft in the last 5 years. And yes, I know DK.
Disagreeing is fine. It might surprise some of the posters in this board to learn you can actually disagree without being an ass.
I hate that this wasn’t Wade but the kid can play. He seems like a DJ Reed hedge if Reed balls out and gets paid. Seattle may be loosening the old profile. The NFC west corner may be changing too. Darious Williams played lights out against us for LA. Same kind of profile as Brown. Maybe this is to combat the Offenses in the division. Less thump, stickier coverage
Some of our corners have played 5 yards off the receiver in the past couple seasons. Cough Flowers.
So yes, more stickiness would be an improvement!
Thinking you are right about this, think Coleman vs all of the 5 yard trailing “coverage” that has been seen at times since he left. We have Three tall CB’s already.
If indeed Brown was picked for special teams I do not like the pic. You can get good special teams players with pic 217 or 250 or as an undrafted free agent especially considering this team has other needs and there was a good tackle on the board in Smith.
I think he’ll surprise people. I just wasn’t expecting him to be a Seahawk because of their profile. I figured someone else would get a good CB around 5th round. Playmaker. Still think good value for Seahawks at Corner. Kick return and special teams ability just an added bonus.
To be fair, it’s not like 20 teams were breaking down the doors to get Smith. There may have been flaws you don’t know about.
Seahawks better have a Duane Brown extension in the bag.
Don’t worry about it man. There’s always another Luke Jokel out there to sign. Bradley Sowell is still active isn’t he? Maybe theyll bring him back
Seeing D’Ante Smith go to Cincinnati was tough. Agree though they need to extend Brown.
It’s possible that Smith will be a total bust. He’s an OT that was drafted late in the 4th round. I’m sure if JS/PC thought he was a much better pick overall and a better fit for the Seahawks than Tre Brown, they would have taken him. We should be pleased. This is the first time in 10 years that JS/PC didn’t choose most of their picks from the UDFA pool.
It’s possible Brown will be a total bust too. The draft is a crapshoot. They have ZERO starting offensive tackles under contract in ’22. Build the trenches out.
I think it’s a good thing that pete is starting to become flexible in his physical standards for his d.b’s. Our dbs of late haven’t used effective bump and run techniques anyway
I’m not sure where they are going with the Brown pick, but it seems like we seriously misjudged the need to draft offensive linemen. I said yesterday that if the Seahawks can get two starters out of this draft they will have had a good draft. They are at 1 1/2 potential starters.
If recent history is any indicator, JS will trade next year’s 6th to get another 7th today. That will make it 3 years in a row.
You have a 1st round talent “slot” corner in wade (as we saw in 2019) and you pass on him for a small corner that hasn’t played in the slot? Frustrating
The whole league has passed on Wade at this point. Maybe someone might get a steal at some point but he seems to be graded really low by all the teams.
just watched his highlights… looks like PI on every highlight snap (except for the blitz)
Exactly. Just thought the same thing. All flags in the NFCW
I think they may actually want him to compete at outside corner. DJ Reed changed their profile if the guy is feisty and quick footed:
DJ Reed…: 5091, 188, 31 5/8 arm, 75.0 wing, 4.51 40yd, 4.06 SS, 6.82 3C, 36.5 vert, 10’04” broad
Tre Brown: 5096, 185, 30 3/8 arm, 75.5 wing, 4.42 40yd, 4.27 SS, 7.11 3C, 38.0 vert, 10’03” broad
Clear difference in length and agility. Still hate the pick.
Really? Look at their wingspan. And we’re talking 10ths of seconds difference in agility, plus Brown ran faster. This is about as close as comps get.
I think I would have preferred D’Ante Smith or Shaun Wade as well, but I’m not going to hate the pick because of that.
So if a guy runs a 4.7 compared to a 4.4; I’m assuming you interpret that as not a big difference either?
And arm length means more than wingspan at CB – in which case Reed is clearly longer.
ok
Great quick comp Sea Mode. This kid will hit you in the mouth if you question his size.
I know nothing about brown, but our best corner was a small corner so I’m not worried about his size
The O-line is definitely a concern for me. What if Brown goes down with injury? What then? What if Pocic never takes another step forward? They always seem to think they can come up with something from somewhere to plug it up.
I think they need to make a move to get another quality OLman…I almost think it’s imperative now. We’re so thin there.
Rob, did Nagy mention Tre Brown when you guys talked?
Ok, time to mute NFL Network. It’s gotten past the point of sufferable
Seahawks got their tails kicked in the trenches in 2020.
Their response?
-Bring back one of the least physical Centers in the NFL, and don’t give him any competition.
-Let their best inside DT by a mile just walk for nothing. Sign an NFL washout to try and fill some of his snaps.
-Draft a 5’9″ WR, and a 5’9″ CB.
Trading a 5th for a guard to plug in isn’t enough.
True the trenches need work
You know what I was just thinking earlier? If they were so sure RW isn’t going anywhere, they knew that was the “truth” all along, then why didn’t they exercise their option to restructure his contract so they could afford to keep Jarran Reed on his salary this year?
Wish someone would spit that at them in one of the press conferences.
I’m sensing the relationship had deteriorated with Reed.
But getting NOTHING for him? Not even a 7th? Not even a 2022 7th? Not even a swap of 7ths?
Seattle also needed a #3 WR and a CB. Both these picks fill needs. Both these guys will get on the field in 2021.
I agree we need more competition (at least!) at center. I’m wondering if Damien Lewis is the plan.
I think people are missing the big picture here. First, the odds of getting a future OL starter, when you only have 1 pick in the first 2 days, is astronomical. Just because some people think that D’Ante Smith is a sure thing, that does not make it so. Using your logic, the Seahawks would have never even drafted Tyler Lockett. Perhaps JS/PC are still thinking about picking up another OT veteran. Maybe they didn’t think any of the available OL draftees were a good fit for the Seahawks.
I said the Seahawks need to get tougher in the trenches and outlined where they’ve failed to do so, in free agency, trades and the draft. It doesn’t get any more ‘big picture’ than that.
You’re right. Why draft any players at all? Let’s just put up the PC and JS cardboard cutouts and go out for pancakes.
Not sure if you’re counting me among the “some people”, but I wasn’t talking about Smith specifically.
When you get your tail kicked in the playoffs, cut your best DT and don’t replace him, make one move on the OL and are facing Donald 2x a year, it’s not beyond the scope of reason to ask what the plan is.
But if you need to know that need + opportunity intersect extremely nicely…
https://seahawksdraftblog.com/introducing-the-most-explosive-o-line-class-in-years
No, that’s not my logic. That’s you completely misunderstanding my comments.
This isn’t about 2021. It’s about 2022, 2023 and 2024.
Plus, the one move is coming from his two worst seasons and might be very possibly our of the NFL in a years time.
People need to stop cheerleading inexplicable team construction failures.
Yet another “bow to authority” post Willeye. Yawn
Thank you, thank you, thank you for this post cha.
Aaron Donald watched our offseason and started counting the pressures and sa
…….sacks he’s gonna rack up on Pocic.
If they are going to be a team that blitzes more, pretty much a requirement if you keep Jamal Adams, you do want a guy who can stick with a receiver.
Tre Brown does fit that mold.
Yep
A little interview with Tre Brown
https://twitter.com/TheSportsEntGrp/status/1368270725065367558?s=20
Haha, that has got to be a first.
Carolina needs to draft OL David Moore.
Idk guys, I really like this pick. I like what it says about the Seahawks ability to adapt their scheme and the scouting processes. I like that he’s fast and aggressive. I love that he dominated the senior bowl. And I love that he had 2 game sealing picks last year.
Yeah passing on Dante Smith is a little suspect, but I had given up on notably improving the oline last night. Hopefully this means they’re confident in extending Duane Brown, because they’d never be that negligent right?
WR D’Wayne Eskridge Gets The Draft Call at No. 56 Overall | 2021 NFL Draft
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41L6GA7WoMo&ab_channel=SeattleSeahawks
I know we’re all down on the FO here, but I love both picks! Fast, agressive and agile WR/CB and both could be day 1 starters.
To me, the Trey Brown pick indicates tha Jamalt Adams is not going anywhere and that Pete is tweaking his defense and finally admitting this is not 2010 anymore. Brandon Browners type corners are not the viable profile anymore.
I’m exited for the season! If we could draft a RB gem and other o-line competition with our last two picks I’m happy. Let’s get the cream of the UFA crop also!
Agreed. I wanted a substantial haul of 4-5th round picks from a trade down from 56. (Heck I wanted an Adams trade.) But I’m happy with the two players so far. Fast and tough and committed. And did well at the Senior Bowl, not a bad metric.
Sure these guys are on the small side. So were/are Wilson and Lockett.
If you’ve traded too many assets for a J Adams, you’ll be picking low and will have to pick players with flaws. But with that caveat, these aren’t bad choices.
“And did well at the Senior Bowl, not a bad metric”……..so did LJ Collier. Not a great metric.
That’s not to say the 2 choices won’t pan out. Possible they do. But if PCJS are still putting an inordinate amount of weight on the Senior Bowl, they’ve learned nothing from drafting Collier.
Are Jermar Jefferson and Chris Evans still available?
Tre Brown 2021 NFL Draft Press Conference
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9z5d-hKMqZ8&ab_channel=SeattleSeahawks
He speaks well.
FYI, Bob retweeted your tweet about Brown being a top gunner and then asked in the presser: “I saw someone called you the best gunner, or maybe the best gunner, in college football last year…” and Brown cracked a huge smile.
Ah shucks
Your voice is heard in the Seattle media, even if not always recognized.
Shaun Wade to the Ravens now
Another one
Another one in the AFC North
Joke
Absolutely love the way the Ravens draft. Every year I look at there haul with jealousy.
Maybe start a ravensdraftblog after today! Just kidding! 🙂
Ravens…………man. Such a rock solid franchise and so very good on draft day.
Ravens get Wade. I give them credit for not out-thinking themselves all the time.
There goes Shaun Wade to the Ravens. Another one for Rob’s collection…
They should send Rob a check for scouting.
Doyle to Chiefs is nice fit
To the Bills.
Yeah just realized
So what are we left with now?
Trey Hill is still in play at C and we still need our yearly RB.
Kylin Hill, Chris Evans?
Gerrid Doaks in UDFA?
Rob’s interviewee C/G David Moore of Grambling had a very good week at the Senior Bowl, and maybe we can get him in rd. 6 or 7. Tony Pauline’s final analysis of Moore was “The non-FBS linemen had themselves a spectacular week, and David Moore is included in that group. He’s under 6-foot-2, and he weighs a whopping 350 pounds, but that didn’t stop him from living rent-free in the heads of opposing defensive linemen. Moore came into Mobile and acted like he belonged, combining stout lower body mechanics with leverage, functional power, and a hungry attitude as a blocker. Moore didn’t quite reach the level of Meinerz, but he still helped his stock quite a bit.”
I would live it if they picked Moore. He’s built like a Solari lineman.
So they can go Hill & Hill back to back, following a trend?
Landon Young? Darius Stills? and agree with Sea Mode on Hill
Stills would be great, or perhaps a guard.
Darrick Forrest is also gone, higher than I thought.
Well…we all knew that the Hawks didn’t have the draft ammo to get the quality depth that they needed. There was just no getting around this fact. They were always going to come up short this year.
Don’t write him off as only a special teams player.
The division added Rondale Moore and Tutu Atwell. We needed a smaller speed guy to neutralize these players.
The guys we identified with the traits are going in range or earlier than we projected.
This gives me a lot of satisfaction, knowing we’re on the right track there in terms of how teams view specific testing per position.
Too bad the Seahawks seem to be going off the rails of the “right track”
Rob, the work you have done analyzing Seahawks traits is one of the coolest analytical accomplishments I have ever seen in a fan site. Your ability to translate your scouting to the NFL draft is top ten in the world; and that is measured – not just my opinion.
I love the way you have incorporated player interviews and Jim Nagy into the pre-draft process and those interviews have become one of my favorite things.
In regards to Brown how/when did he get arms measured? I remember senior bowl to combine players would add an inch. If measured at SB can we assume arms are longer?
Just noticed Keith Taylor went to the Cougs. Go Dawgs! Taylor was always overshadowed by other DB talent on the team. I’m not sure if he’ll ever be a solid NFL starter. He wasn’t a real dynamic CB, but he does have enough raw material to think he has a chance.
Just gonna keep cheerleading this pick.
https://twitter.com/PFF_College/status/1388548240040251399
Can’t be better than ‘best’
Nice! Cheerlead on!
Panthers got Keith Taylor AND Daviyon Nixon in round five. They won the round, hands down.
Ravens with Wade is a steal also.
Damnit, I hate this draft, as I knew I would.
Daelin Hayes to Ravens as well…
Ambry Thomas and now Lenoir at CB for 49ers. Both seem not good enough to me.
I don’t think any of us thought of D’ante Smith (or any of the OTs) available late in the 4th as a sure thing. But our two starting tackles have one year left on their contract and it would have been nice to take a project (Smith and anyone picked in the 4th are projects) and see if you can develop him to possible cheap productive starter.
I think many of us are also shocked by them picking a short (but fast) corner that doesn’t fit their profile of a starting CB. Someone posted above that CBS gave them an A grade for picking a lot CB. But it sounds like they may try him at outside CB? And maybe he succeeds but again, it’s against the grain of the physical profiles that the Hawks have used to pick outside CBs. Makes us all question the plan/vision of the Hawks.
We had too many holes to fill with such limited picks but I am worried that without much improvement in our OL that we will be bullied again against the nasty pass rushes that are in the NFCW.
This, this and oh yeah, this.
I think it’s time for me to pack it in and do some needed yard work. A pleasure to follow the draft along with other a-little-too-much football fans. 🙂
Apparently the Seahawks wanted Marco Wilson at CB and he’s one of the most athletic players in the draft at ALL positions. Cards had intel and jumped Seattle. Damn.
I’d love to know how teams get “intel” on who other teams will pick… especially late in the draft like this.
Who says they had intel compared to just liking the same player?
Source?
Based on what?
Apparently the Seahawks leaked that they want Marco Wilson so Cardinals trade up for him, and got the player they wanted in the first place 🙂 C’mon.
So the Rams have two Ernest’s, two Brown’s, and one Ernest Brown.
Just so we’re clear. 🙂
They drafted Ernest Khalimov?
He sounds like he should be a right winger for the Capitals.
Hard to believe JS didn’t make more of an effort to get more picks. Seems like a very long time since the last one, and 40 picks until our next one at 217.
This draft is making me question this team even more. Who are the Seahawks? What’s their identity???
Soon many holes to fill and we’re going to be in the same position next year.
Our picks so far I’m fine with, but when you look at the bigger picture I don’t think it moves the needle at all.
Here’s a dramatic representation of Pete/John’s view of the Seahawks identity:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mpgHKlixRY
I have to assume you then had unreasonable expectations for a team that had a late 2nd, late 4th, late 7th round pick going into the draft.
There was zero chance they were filling all of their holes, realistically you hope to fill one at 56, which I think an argument can be made that they did.
The 4th round pick should be BPA, and the 6th and 7th picks should just be flyers.
Expecting anything else was just setting yourself up for disappointment.
No not unreasonable. Just feels like this team is so far from the principals that once made it great and they are so far down the rabbit hike that I don’t see how they make it back out.
Rabbit *hole*
Seeing the rams making so many good day three picks is depressing.
The 49ers draft is a dumpster fire
I’m happy about exactly 50% of the above 😂
Tre Brown draft call
https://mobile.twitter.com/Seahawks/status/1388573119481204738
It won’t load for me? Is this a Twitter thing… do I have to be signed in?
Try to reload a couple times, it usually helps for me (no twitter account).
Sometimes you see stuff from twitter even without having an account, i guess it depends on the privacy settings of the particular account.
Huh, it worked now, odd.
I would like to see the Hawks take two medical fliers on Trey Smith and Dylan Moses if available. Both guys seem like they have legit starter potential but clearly pretty serious red flags. I think I would take a shot on them given how little opportunity the Hawks had to add any impact players in this draft.
Who we hoping for?
Kylin Hill, perhaps?
You won’t recognize the name of who they draft
Yeesh, how’d the Niners get so many damn picks.
They didn’t trade for a blitzing box safety.
The 49ers just took another running back… not sold on their draft at all. Even lance. Very questionable
I like both the players so far and neither have been a reach in my view, the issue is we just haven’t got enough picks. With only two picks in the top 150, we were never going to fill out the depth in positions we need to.
The 2022 off season is going to be a difficult one for Seattle, on so many levels. Certainly this year is the last year of the 2012 team’s Superbowl window and I think next year we may well see a re-set. I’m sure the Seahawks can have a good season, but they’ll be a few teams that’ll be just to strong for them. The 2021 Seahawks aren’t the innovators anymore. Five years ago people would talk other teams following the Seahawks philosophy, especially on defence. Nobody brings it up any more. The talk is about Andy Reid, Shanahan or McVey trees. It may well be in 2022, they’ll be no Russell Wilson, Bobby Wagner and or maybe even Pete Carroll.
How would we react to another receiver?
https://i.giphy.com/media/s239QJIh56sRW/giphy.webp
Little run on pac 12 players. With fewer games, more “hidden gems” potentially?
We are approaching where they could move up with a 6th if wanted. Who would anyone move up for?
Trey Smith?
The NFL Network has got to the point of being quite annoying
Haha, surprised you lasted this long. Start of R5 was enough for me.
https://seahawksdraftblog.com/live-blog-2021-nfl-draft-rounds-4-7#comment-577553
I was watching PFFs coverage but it has gone to obnoxious snark level 2000. It’s painful.
Fact.
I was somewhat enjoying PFFs live feed yesterday, except for when they cut away to a long interview and did not cover any of 10+ picks until after the fact. Also didn’t like how much PFF poopoo’ed on Eskridge. Otherwise, better than NFLN.
I love Tyler Lockett 😁
Dang I was hoping for Chris Evans late.
Chris Evans Michigan RB gone to Cincy
Rob, is this KJR appearance still going on?
I just did it — it was on their online feed
I would seriously rather have had 5 third round picks instead of one pick in the top 2-10. Looking at where some of these guys went, I’d much rather have loaded up on those of those third round guys.
So far the Jamal Adams trade to me is:
Jamal Adams for…
Javonte Williams
Quinn Meinerz
And the Seahawks #1 pick in 2022
lol that response gif
https://twitter.com/JoeBuettner/status/1388550511998160896
Shaping up to have some interesting options at our next pick:
1) RB depth with Kylin Hill or Jermar Jefferson.
2) double dip at WR with Cade Johnson or Tamirrion Terry.
3) combo of one and two with a unique weapon in demetric Felton
4) hope to get a piece for the future at TE with Kenny yeobah
5) classic seahawk profile cb in Israel mukuamu
6) take a chance on an edge rusher in Hamilcar rashad
7) go dt depth with Darius stills
I’m hoping for Jefferson, hill, rashad, yeobah, or stills in that order.
No offense my friend but your post literally became obsolete within a minute of you clicking “submit”
Cade Johnson is still in? That is just stupid. I hope he reaches UDFA and we can pick him up.
Lockett, DK and let Swain, Johnson and Eskridge compete for WR3
We just traded up?
We just traded up and picking next
PC just put out a clue with the “office linebacker” commercial clip…
Stone Forsythe Tackle Florida
Anyone got any intel on him?
well… he’s tall!
https://www.nfl.com/prospects/stone-forsythe/3200464f-5259-4051-69a5-9f094df3af62
Zerlein had him in round 3-4. Nfl Comp Nate solder. Likes his last pro but not his run blocking. Started for gators at Lt for two years
*pass pro
Alabama and Georgia’s typically threatening pass rushes combined for just three quarterback pressures, and zero sacks, against Forsythe in 2020. He notably kept projected first round edge rusher Azeez Ojulari in check for the entire Florida-Georgia game.
https://twitter.com/ChiefinCarolina/status/1376174188315217927
Sounds promising for a 6th rounder. This late everyone’s a flier.
Here’s his pro-day stats. Not sure what this would be for TEF.
Official pro-day results for Florida OT Stone Forsythe. Good all-around workout for the big man.
HT 6080👀
WT 307
Hand 10
Arm 34 3/8
Wing 83 1/4
40-yd 5.14/5.15
VJ 27.5
BJ 8-7
SS 4.65
3C 7.47
BP 25 reps
We have weighted TEF. Should we have lengthened TEF? Because 25 reps with those long arms seems like more of an accomplishment than some guy with 31” arms cranking out 30.
2.71 TEF
83.11 wTEF
Thank you!
And they take a “too tall” tackle!
I officially say we nickname him “Lurch” 😉
Don’t think he needs a nickname. Stone is already pretty cool.
As someone who is nearly 6’7″ Tom, I can absolutely assure you that he would not care for that nickname.
Also, did we give up #250 to move up 9 spots?
We still show up picking at 217, wonder if we used a pick from next year to get him.
Scratch that. They updated the board. CHI has 217 now
Time to start working the udfa market.
Yeah guessing we gave up #250 to move up
That was my guess. The value made sense
So we are done and working the UDFA market now.
yes, we gave up
#250. no more picks now.
The bears now have 217 @ 250 on ESPN
Is D. Nixon gonna end up as the Poona Ford of 2021?
Well, no, cause he got selected R5P158 to the Panthers.
For what it’s worth, Zeirlein adores Forsythe and comps him to Nate Solder. I’m down with this pick in the 6th, no-risk/high-reward.
PFF had him 82nd on their big board. He definitely had his admirers.
At this point in the draft, seems like a nice selection.
Both Zierlein and Bucky Brooks said they thought Forsythe would be a day 2 pick:
https://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-mock-draft-live-zierlein-s-top-sleepers-in-2021-draft
I could see them giving up a 2022 6th to get back in the 7th. They have done it the last two years.
True, and I wouldn’t rule it out, but I think boards are so different at this point this year that they just wait it out until UDFA.
And they’ve already mentioned that only having three draft picks should make them an attractive UDFA destination.
Agreed, I’m actually excited for UDFA this year. They should be able to lockdown anyone they want.
Need to watch more of him, but sometimes about an OL named Stone is very appealing to me.
What’s the over/under on PC/JS saying in today’s press conference that they had R2 grades on both players they drafted today… 😏
And how soon do we hear another team called immediately trying to trade for one of them.
😂
Little nastiness, unfortunately pretty dirty on this hit on Jabril Cox:
https://twitter.com/SouthernbeLLSU/status/1337933941769113601
INJECT IT LIKE THE CURE FOR RONA
Shades of Breno
Fun fact: the 208th pick in this year’s draft was originally Seattle’s 2021 6th Rounder (actually a R7/conditional R6) that they traded to Miami last year to move back into the 7th round for Stephen Sullivan.
Miami then traded it to the Bears for TE Adam Shaheen, who traded it back to Seattle.
Circle of life
too funny
Weird draft – I don’t necessarily say that about specific picks. Just not used to 3 selections.
Like the Eskridge pick.
Don’t like the Tre Brown pick but starting to like him. The “profile” is what I disagree with.
Like Forsyth – what else can you ask for at this point other than a high upside player who could start one day.
Just a weird place we are in with this franchise. It’s a feeling of treading water and throwing stuff against the wall to see what sticks. The Jamal Trade really screwed this team – an extra 2 picks in the top 100 could have been a real “injection of long term health.”
Shoot me should I ever ‘get used to’ 3 picks in a draft.
100% concur with your last paragraph Matt. Just don’t think there’s a long term plan. As BobbyK has mentioned several times, Pete seems in “I gotta try to win now” mode.
Grade: C
Love the Eskridge pick, but not the value. (B)
Did not like the Brown pick – nickel corner was not a priority and better players were available. (D)
Forsythe was the best option left at a position of need. This should have been a priority earlier in the draft. (C)
We better nail UDFA and veteran cut days. Go ahead and slay me now.
Brown isn’t a nickel corner. He might end up there but he has outside ability and corner was definitely a need.
Forsythe – you have to grade the pick notbthe circumstance and for the 6th round I thought it was a great pickup.
You know, for a 3 pick draft this isnt bad. Some things I’ve had done differently but I cant really complain too much about any pick.
Also like that he played both LT & RT. We needed a young developmental OT. Top needs, WR3, CB, & O-line.
I feel pretty good about all 3. Now hopefully we pick up some surprises in UDFA market
Tbh I don’t mind any picks.
Eskridge ceiling as rookie could be good WR3 and solid KR/PR, his ceiling long term could be between Lockett and Tyreek Hill. His optimistic floor could be KR/PR as a rookie and only a gadget player later.
The CB dude is a bit mistery…no idea what would be his role exactly, but I don’t mind as an outside project a la DJ Reed or slot competition for Amadi and Blair either. He’s ceiling could be a starter his optimistic floor (not counting cut) depth.
The huge OT guy is a big project but he has a pretty good ceiling and not that bad floor in passpro. Great gamble in R6.
BUT! What I mind is the lack of picks. Ton of potential in R3-R5. If we would’ve had 5-6 picks in that range there could’ve been multiple gems found.
My biggest concern is OC and have question marks about RB depth and durability. Also DT seems a bit thin and I’m not sold on the starting CBs either.
But I think this is a good draft for Russ (except the lack of picks). WR3 and a project LT who’s much better at passpro than run blocking could be a bit indicator that they wanna make things right with him
I know he didn’t test that well, at least not well enough for Seattle, but I really like Demetric Felton. I think he’s going to be a gem for Cleveland.
Don’t like the trade up. But that’s a wrap. Three promising players. Going in with three picks, it’s a bit disappointing. But I like all the players.
Still not to late to trade for a 7th round pick. But so far I like Eskridge a lot (grade A in my book), Tre Brown doesn’t seem to be only a special teams guy, so I can live with that (B), and at least they try to throw in a mountain in front of Aaron Donald (C+ that can easily improve if he confirms).
Michigan State has a track record of at least one player being drafted into the NFL every year for some long period of time, but that streak may end this year. Shakur Brown (CB) remains undrafted at the moment and he’s probably their best shot.
Center doesn’t sit well with me (Haynes?), Taylor starts on PUP, still need to sign K.J.
QB Russell Wilson, Gino Smith
LT Duane Brown, Cedric Ogbuehi
LG Gabe Jackson, Jamarco Jones
C Ethan Pocic, Phil Haynes
RG Damien Lewis, Jordan Simmons
RT Brandon Shell, Stone Forsythe
RB1 Chris Carson, Alex Collins
RB2 Rashaad Penny, Travis Homer
HB Nick Bellore, Will Dissly
TE Gerald Everett, Colby Parkinson
WR1 D.K. Metcalf, Freddie Swain
WR2 Tyler Lockett, D’Wayne Eskridge
DE Kerry Hyder, Rasheem Green
DT Al Woods, L.J. Collier
NT Poona Ford, Bryan Mone
LEO Carlos Dunlap, Benson Mayowa
SAM K.J. Wright, Alton Robinson
MIKE Bobby Wagner, Cody Barton
WILL Jordyn Brooks, Ben Burr-Kirven
NKL Ugo Amadi, Tre Brown
RCB D.J. Reed, Tre Flowers
LCB Akhello Witherspoon, Pierre Desir
SS Jamal Adams, Ryan Neal
FS Quandre Diggs, Marquise Blair
K Jason Myers
P Michael Dickson
LS Tyler Ott
Center competition is Kyle Fuller they said the other day.
Given the ridiculously low draft capitol we had coming into it all I’m happy with what we ended up with.
We’ve needed a shifty slot receiver with good YAC potential for a long time now and it was certainly a need in general. The fact he will take fielding responsibilities off other players is certainly a help as well.
To get a CB who can mirror the types of receivers we got in Eskridge is a nice get and again if he can be a dual guy with the capability to wreck it on special teams is nice as well. Thinking of the Rams and Niners offenses and just the nfl trends of late it can’t hurt to have a good nickel CB added to the roster.
Rob you said it perfectly with Stone – to get a solid OT prospect with real starting potential with some seasoning in the 6th round – can’t ask for much more.
“Given the ridiculously low draft capitol we had coming into it all I’m happy with what we ended up with.”
Truth.
He’s just too long to run around:
https://twitter.com/BrandonThornNFL/status/1376255549327749125
Can’t argue with the pick. I like it. Potential starting LT. Even if he’s a below average run blocker on the blind side, but can be an above average pass protector – this was a great pick. Perfect timing given the age of Brown and his contract (last year). Very solid 6th round pick even if it doesn’t turn out well and he’s not good.
I am the only one that wants us to trade up to draft Cade Johnson? I think he would be a cool pick.
I would as well. Loved his interview with Rob and we still need to fill out our WR room. Definitely seems like a UDFA priority.
I think this will be the most successful 3-pick draft in NFL history. I like all three of these guys.
Cha, thinking about possibilities at C. Maybe they add FA Austin Reiter? Not a star but an upgrade over Pocic, especially in pass protection.
Don’t know how expensive he would be though, and I think they’d rather sign KJ Wright.
It is definitely possible. I doubt they’re done at center.
In the Day 3 press conference, they said Gabe Jackson will play right guard and Damien Lewis will play left guard. That is the first time I had heard that stated so definitively. I can put the idea of Damien playing center to rest.
I wonder if they view free agent Austin Reiter much of an upgrade over Pocic?
KJ, Sherman, Atkins and Reiter all still FAs
oops didn’t know there was a Reiter post above mine
I’d absolutely trade next years 6 to get back in, Cade Johnson or jonathon Cooper
Broncos have 3 picks, trade for one of them, Marvin Wilson or Justin Hilliard would also work nicely.
Marvin wilson is not going to be drafted and probably wont make a roster
Starting now
Pete Carroll and John Schneider 2021 NFL Draft Day 3 Press Conference
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlyYd3-PC5U&ab_channel=SeattleSeahawks
JS: If Tre Brown were 6’2″, he would be a top 10 pick. We would love to have tall corners, and we did when we started here, but you’ve got to adjust to the times and the players available to you.
PC “Didn’t draft Brown to be a nickel”
PC: Tre is a corner. He is gonna play outside, start there. […] We didn’t draft him as a nickel.
Mentions we also signed two tall guys in FA, so we’re just looking for a player. ST as well and good tackler.
PC just said Gabe Jackson at RG, Lewis at LG
Ok, you write. 🙂
Why, just why; Don’t understand not just leaving him at RG.
Wow, PC just said Gabe Jackson will play on the right and Damien Lewis will move over to the left.
Not sure I like that. Jackson has played LG before and Lewis hasnt. Let the young guy learn where he is comfortable. I guess they know a lot more than me though.
Smarter than everybody else, always gotta make players change positions.
Tre Brown wasnt drafted to be a nickle, glad to have my instinct confirmed.
PC has talked to Sherm. Open to it. Wants to get through draft and UDFA first and see.
“Wide open” with where they play Blair next year. Ugo gives them flexiblity.
Taylor ‘does give us some flexibility, we have that as part of what we’re counting on’,
JS basically confirmed they got the guys they wanted this draft. Said there was an offer to trade down again further after the trade with Tampa Bay, and the stock gained from that would have allowed them to move up earlier for Stone, but they decided they needed to stay put and take Tre Brown right there. Then in the 190s they started trying to trade up for Stone and finally were able to move up to 208 and get him. Said PC and Walter Jones were super nervous waiting it out.
Mentions Stone’s quiet, “buttoned-up” personality might have been one factor in his lasting to where he did.
Did I miss something?
Not a single question about Russell Wilson?
Everyone just accepts their comments on Wednesday?
Oh, of course not. Wouldn’t want to ruffle the feathers of the truth-seer. A follow-up question just about Sherm already had PC a little heated.
Drat Dallas just took Israel Mukuamu
But there are still a number of interesting prospects remaining. I wonder if they trade back in or wait for UDFA.
Still available as of pick 233 (in no particular order):
Justin Hilliard
Dylan Moses
Kylin Hill
Kenny Yeboah
Nick Eubanks
Robert Jones
David Moore
Tamorrion Terry
Darius Stills
Patrick Johnson
Hamilcar Rashed Jr.
Damn Jonathon Cooper good fit in Denver, Fangio will coach him up
RBs still out there: Kylin Hill, Gerrid Doaks. Hope they fall into UDFA and we snag one of them.
I’d love it if we could snag Kylin Hill as a udfa
Damn. There goes Doaks.
I’m so pumped for UDFAs, David Moore, Cade Johnson, Kylin Hill, tons of value still to be had. And looks like JS has been waiting for UDFAs this whole time, he’s ready to go.
Smart to hit the phones for UDFA. Some dudes gonna be out of the draft. I’d take Kylin Hill, Dylan Moses, Marvin Jones and Kenny Yehboa
I’d like any of those guys. I like watching Tamarrion terry too
I like him too. Here we go! Dig up them diamonds JS!
I would lose my mind if we signed Cade. I’m trying to remember. Didn’t he have a Seattle connection where he was good friends with one of our players?
There is a lot of good talent still left on the board. Amazing. I hope Seattle is a destination they want to come to.
kylin Hill just went to GB
And there goes Jermar Jefferson. He was fun to watch at Oregon State.
Green Bay like alot of similar players
Potential targets:
WR Cade Johnson or Tamorrion Terry
G David Moore or S. Hutcherson
DT Darius Stills
LB Dylan Moses
CB DJ Daniels
None of the players on Rob’s Day 3 watch list went undrafted. That’s impressive.
Here are PFFs top rated for some more names:
1. Ar’Darius Washington S
2. Cade Johnson WR
3. Marvin Wilson DT (just signed by Browns)
4. Justin Hilliard LB
5. David Moore G
6. Trill Williams CB
7. DJ Daniel CB
And here are Brugler’s
118. Charles Snowden, edge, Virginia (6-foot-6, 243 pounds)
119. Shakur Brown, CB, Michigan State (5-foot-10, 185 pounds)
120. Cade Johnson, WR, South Dakota State (5-foot-11, 184 pounds)
124. Ar’Darius Washington, DS/CB, TCU (5-foot-8, 176 pounds)
126. David Moore, OG/C, Grambling State (6-foot-2, 330 pounds)
150. Tamorrion Terry, WR, Florida State (6-foot-3, 207 pounds)
156. Trevon Grimes, WR, Florida (6-foot-4, 220 pounds)
160. DJ Daniel, CB, Georgia (6-foot-0, 195 pounds)
161. Marvin Wilson, DT, Florida State (6-foot-4, 303 pounds)
170. Drake Jackson, OC, Kentucky (6-foot-2, 293 pounds)
172. Trill Williams, CB/S, Syracuse (6-foot-0, 208 pounds)
175. Jared Hocker, OG, Texas A&M (6-foot-6, 327 pounds)
179. Dylan Moses, LB, Alabama (6-foot-1, 225 pounds)
184. Robert Jones, OG, Middle Tennessee (6-foot-4, 307 pounds)
187. Olaijah Griffin, CB, USC (5-foot-11, 176 pounds)
191. Jonathan Adams Jr., WR, Arkansas State (6-foot-2, 210 pounds)
193. Bryan Mills, CB, North Carolina Central (6-foot-1, 174 pounds)
195. Jaret Patterson, RB, Buffalo (5-foot-7, 195 pounds)
Disappointed to see Hill and Jefferson go late there. Any other RBs to be hoping for?
Brenden Knox has the prototype body and physical tools, huge hands and great ball security. Key question is his vision and trust for blocking.
Seems like a no-brainer to try out as UDFA.
LOL
https://twitter.com/Seahawks/status/1388604380274851840
David Moore would be a nice UDFA add
Him and Cade
And there it is, Rob!!
Receiving corp looking deep and strong now, DK/Tyler/Eskridge/Swain/Terry is a great mix of size and speed, loads of potential
What about TE Kenny Yeboah? What ever happened to him?
Looks like Jared Hocker is signing with the Seahawks as well
https://twitter.com/Travis_L_Brown/status/1388632023821131783
A key member of the Maroon Goons! Versatile at both guard positions and a big guy. Love this! Gig ’em!
NCCU CB Bryan Mills signing with Hawks
Canadian OL Pier-Olivier Lestage signing with Hawks as well
No DT or DE just WR, RB and OL.