Live blog: Combine day two workouts — QB, WR, TE

Welcome to our coverage of the 2019 NFL combine. Every day we’ll be updating events as they happen in Indianapolis, posting workout numbers and information.

This post will be updated consistently so keep hitting refresh.

We’ll end each day with a separate ‘review’ piece and a podcast. In today’s we’ll be reviewing how the quarterbacks performed and looking at potential O-line and receiver targets.

If you missed yesterday’s review piece including TEF scores for the offensive linemen and potential running back targets, click here.

Before we get into the workouts, there was some positive news on a new deal for Frank Clark…

It’s very important the Seahawks work out a deal here. If Clark plays on the franchise tag in 2019, he will join Bobby Wagner, Russell Wilson and Jarran Reed as a free agent in 12 months time. That’ll put a lot of pressure on the Seahawks to get deals done and avoid losing core players.

Cornerbacks who fit Seattle’s size profile:

Blace Brown — 6-0 3/8, 32 arms, 76 3/8 wingspan
Blessuan Austin — 6-0 5/8, 32.5 arms, 76 7/8 wingspan
Deandre Baker — 5-11, 32 arms, 77 1/8 wingspan
Alijah Holder — 6-0 6/8, 32.5 arms, 77 2/8 wingspan
Mike Jackson — 6-0 5/8, 32.5 arms, 77 2/8 wingspan
Isaiah Johnson — 6-2 1/8, 33 arms, 79 1/8 wingspan
Lonnie Johnson — 6-1 7/8, 32 5/8 arms, 77.5 wingspan
Justin Layne — 6-1 6/8, 33 arms, 80 1/8 wingspan
Rock Ya-sin — 5-11 6/8, 32 arms, 77 3/8 wingspan
Joejuan Williams — 6-3 5/8, 32.5 arms, 78 wingspan
Derrek Thomas — 6-2 7/8, 33 6/8 arms, 82 wingspan
Jordan Miller — 6-0 5/8, 32 7/8 arms, 76.5 wingspan
Jamal Peters — 6-1 6/8, 32 3/8 arms, 77 5/8 wingspan
Ryan Pulley 5-10 5/8, 32 6/8 arms, 77 5/8 wingspan
Saivion Smith — 6-0 7/8, 33 2/8 arms, 78 7/8 wingspan
Ken Webster — 5-10 7/8, 32 arms, 77 wingspan

That’s a good, strong, solid list of names and increases the likelihood of Seattle drafting at least one cornerback in their usual round 4-6 range.

Tight end forty times

Kendall Blanton — 4.96 & 4.98
Keenen Brown — 4.76 & 4.77
Noah Fant — 4.51 & 4.55
Zach Gentry — 4.92 & 4.91
Daniel Helm — 4.90 & 4.98
T.J. Hockenson — 4.71 & 4.75
Alize Mack — 4.71 & 4.73
Foster Moreau — 4.66 & 4.70
Isaac Nauta — 4.92 & 4.99
Josh Oliver — 4.64 & 4.71
Dax Raymond — 4.73 & 4.76
Drew Sample — 4.74 & 4.72
Irv Smith Jr — 4.64 & 4.71
Kaden Smith — 4.94 & 4.93
Jace Sternberger — 4.76 & 4.78
Tommy Sweeney — 4.84 & 4.86
Kahale Warring — 4.69 & 4.67
Trevon Wesco — 4.89 & 4.95
Caleb Wilson — 4.50 & 4.58

Pete Carroll and John Schneider were paying close attention to the tight end class

As the tight end drills are set to begin, I’m not sure I can take another story or anecdote from Daniel Jeremiah.

In the early catching drills, most of the players have done well. Drew Sample, just as he did at the Senior Bowl, looks very smooth and polished. Trevon Wesco caught a pass over his shoulder with nice anticipation — stretching out to bring in the ball. It’s a decent looking group so far.

Drew Sample told the coaches he won’t be doing the blocking drills. He seemed to note an injury issue of some kind.

Foster Moreau has looked good so far. Ran well in the forty and settling into the drills. They noted he wore #18 at LSU during the broadcast. That’s a big deal.

Irv Smith Jr didn’t really strike on his blocking drill. Kind of clutched the bag and ran with it. He didn’t do that much blocking in 2018. Jace Sternberger had a better rep.

Charles Davis suggested Trevon Wesco will be a full back at the next level. It’s an interesting thought.

The gauntlet is next. Isaac Nauta’s catching technique was good. Drew Sample dropped one of his catches but the technique looked good. Irv Smith Jr looked terrific in the gauntlet — fast, good technique, caught everything. The best rep of the group. Hockenson’s technique was absolutely textbook too.

Jace Sternberger had a very poor rep. He was swerving along the line, dropped catches and was all over the place. Trevon Wesco is not particularly athletic or fast but he looks like a load.

Sample’s second gauntlet rep was a bit sloppy — he let the ball get into him a little too much and didn’t run a straight line. Smith Jr and Hockenson are the two clear standouts from this drill. Sternberger’s second rep was a lot better.

Missouri receiver Emmanuel Hall jumped an 11-9 broad jump. Apparently that’s the second best ever.

Dawson Knox is having a good performance in the drills. He didn’t run the forty because he’s still recovering from a sports hernia.

Here are the top official 40 times for the tight end class…

In the wheel route drill, Dawson Knox continues to impress. Very athletic, very quick for his size.

Josh Oliver had a fantastic one-handed catch on his rep on a wide throw. Impressive. Irv Smith Jr laid out to make a really difficult low grab. Trevon Wesco tracked the ball well over his shoulder.

Noah Fant has dropped some passes today.

The tight end drills have now concluded. We’ll find out how they did in the jumps/agility testing soon.

Overall it was a decent session. Hockenson will go early but with the rest of the group — there aren’t lots of first/second round prospects but it looks like a thick class of mid/late round options. If the Seahawks want a tight end — and Pete and John were watching the workout very closely — they should be able to find one.

Foster Moreau was impressive and warrants a good look post-combine. I also want to take a closer look at Dawson Knox and Trevon Wesco.

Parris Campbell jumped a 40 inch vertical and an 11-3 broad.

N’Keal Harry had a 38.5 inch vertical and a 10-2 broad.

A.J. Brown had a 36.5 inch vertical and a 10-0 broad.

Miles Boykin jumped a 43.5 inch vertical — the second best ever recorded.

Quarterback forty yard dash times (group 1)

Jake Browning — 4.81 & 4.75
Ryan Finley — 4.74 & 4.75
Nick Fitzgerald — 4.65 & 4.72
Will Grier — 4.92 & 4.84
Dwayne Haskins — 5.04 & 5.06
Tyree Jackson — 4.59 & 4.68
Daniel Jones — 4.82 & 4.84
Drew Lock — 4.70 & 4.70
Trace McSorley — 4.58 & 4.60

Wide receiver forty yard dash times (group 1)

Note — the Seahawks want 4.4 or faster

Miles Boykin — 4.47 & 4.42
A.J. Brown — 4.57 & 4.50
Hakeem Butler — 4.49 & 4.50
Parris Campbell — 4.32 & 4.37
Jamal Custis — 4.51 & 4.54
Johnnie Dixon — 4.41 & 4.51
Ashton Dulin — 4.46 & 4.43
Jovon Durante — 4.55 & 4.59
Jazz Ferguson — 4.50 & 4.46
Travis Fulgham — 4.58 & 4.62
Terry Godwin — 4.60 & 4.55
Emanuel Hall — 4.40 & 4.39
Mecole Hardman — 4.36 & 4.34
Kelvin Harmon — 4.61 & 4.64
N’Keal Harry — 4.59 & 4.54
Lil’ Jordan Humphrey — 4.79 & 4.75

Noah Fant (39.5) and T.J. Hockenson (37.5) had the top two vertical jumps among TE’s.

Vertical jumps:

Noah Fant — 39.5
T.J. Hockenson — 37.5
Foster Moreau — 36.5
Kahale Warring — 36.5
Alize Mack — 36
Dawson Knox — 34.5
Josh Oliver — 34
Drew Sample — 33.5
Keenen Brown — 33
Irv Smith Jr — 32.5
Dax Raymond — 32
Kaden Smith — 32
Jace Sternberger — 31.5
Kendall Blanton — 31
Trevon Wesco — 31

Broad jumps:

Noah Fant — 10-7
T.J. Hockenson — 10-3
Kahale Warring — 10-2
Foster Moreau — 10-1
Alize Mack — 10-0
Keenen Brown — 9-9
Josh Oliver — 9-9
Trevon Wesco — 9-9
Drew Sample — 9-7
Kendall Blanton — 9-5
Jace Sternberger — 9-5
Caleb Wilson — 9-5
Zach Gentry — 9-2
Irv Smith Jr — 9-2
Dax Raymond — 9-2

The top three performers in the drills were arguably Fant, Hockenson, Moreau and Dawson Knox. They all had explosive testing too.

The wide receivers are now going through drills.

Hakeem Butler ran a better than expected forty time but he dropped his first pass in the toe-tap drill. Dropped passes and separation are an issue for Butler.

On Butler’s first rep on the over-the-shoulder drill he jogged downfield, didn’t bother tracking the ball and just let it hit the turf. Awful — and the coaches had a word. He shrugged.

Terry Godwin ran a slow forty and hasn’t started well in the catching drills.

N’Keal Harry tracked the ball over his shoulder nicely on a deep pass.

D.K. Metcalf just recorded a 40.5 inch vertical.

Now it’s the gauntlet drill. Butler again didn’t have a great rep, failing to run in a straight line. Parris Campbell, however, was absolutely on point. Great catching technique, natural movements.

N’Keal Harry was body-catching every pass in his second gauntlet. Poor technique.

First slant route for Hakeem Butler — yet another drop.

Will Grier’s first three throws in the slant drill were textbook in terms of placement and velocity.

The official forty times are out for the first group of receivers:

It’s no surprise that Parris Campbell and Emanuel Hall are at the top. A.J. Brown was faster than expected.

Drew Lock’s arm strength is very evident here. Good velocity on the shorter routes, can drive the ball downfield. He clearly has the best arm talent of this group of quarterbacks.

Parris Campbell just made a fantastic catch on a deep ball to the sideline from Ryan Finley. Campbell is putting on a show.

They’re now running up and to the sideline. Campbell is so sudden and then breaks off his release with great quickness. This is a very impressive performance from the Ohio State receiver.

The tight end agility testing results are out. Foster Moreau ran a 4.11 short shuttle (!!!). T.J. Hockenson’s 4.18 matched O.J. Howard’s. Noah Fant managed a 4.22.

Fant also had an excellent 6.81 three cone. Hockenson’s was second best at 7.02 followed by Kaden Smith (4.08) and Dawson Knox (7.12). Moreau recorded a 7.16.

Quarterback forty times (Group 2)

Gardner Minshew — 4.97 & 4.97
Brett Rypien — 4.92 & 4.97
Kyle Shurmur — 4.92 & 4.92
Easton Stick — 4.67 & 4.63
Jarrett Stidham — 4.82 & 4.86
Jordan Ta’amu — 4.78 & 4.78

Wide receiver forty times (Group 2)

Andy Isabella — 4.56 & 4.46
Gary Jennings — 4.47 & 4.43
Diontae Johnson — 4.56 & 4.53
KeeSean Johnson — 4.61 & 4.64
Olabisi Johnson — 4.55 & 4.52
DaMarkus Lodge — 4.57 & 4.56
Terry McLaurin — 4.36 & 4.39
D.K. Metcalf — 4.33 & 4.38
Jakobi Meyers — 4.67 & 4.64
Dillon Mitchell — 4.47 & 4.47
Stanley Morgan Jr — 4.53 & 4.58
Nyqwan Murray — 4.70 & 4.64
Hunter Renfrow — 4.59 & 4.63
Riley Ridley — 4.61 & 4.59
Deebo Samuel — 4.50 & 4.49
David Sills — 4.57 & 4.59
Darius Slayton — 4.40 & 4.42
Jaylen Smith — 4.48 & 4.50
Cody Thompson — 4.58 & 4.59
Jamarius Way — 4.71 & 4.63
Alex Wesley — 4.58 & 4.46

Todd McShay bet Mel Kiper on the ESPN podcast last week that Isabella would run closer to the 4.5’s than the 4.2’s. McShay had a good source there.

Wow — D.K. Metcalf ran a 4.33. That is… Calvin Johnson.

J.J. Arcega-Whiteside didn’t run which is a shame.

The NFL Network spent a large amount of time focusing on Rich Eisen and Kurt Warner having some ‘banter’ instead of showing the drills. This segment was bookended by adverts. So we missed a fair bit of the group two workouts.

Terry McLaurin looks really comfortable. Aside from McLaurin’s speed, dynamism, catching ability, special teams value and character — he also has terrific catching technique.

D.K. Metcalf dropped his first deep pass attempt. His second attempt was a little better — locating it in the air and just about clinging onto a difficult grab with his fingertips.

Dillon Mitchell struggled to track the ball in the air.

Again another set of adverts — the NFL Network isn’t giving us much on the drills with group two. We miss half of the gauntlet as a consequence.

Riley Ridley was fighting the ball a bit on his gauntlet. Deebo Samuel and David Sills ran well.

Andy Isabella had a drop and fought the ball a bit. DeMarkus Lodge had a good run in the gauntlet. So did Terry McLaurin.

D.K. Metcalf just looks incredible. If I were Marvel I’d call him about the next film. His body, speed. He’s the definition of a freaky natural athlete.

After his sensational forty time, Metcalf took a facetime call with his family. The NFL Network showed footage a highly emotional Metcalf. It was a nice moment:

It’s been difficult to get an assessment on the quarterbacks today. The camera angles have been unhelpful and there’s been too many adverts. The network doesn’t name both the QB and WR for every drill. It’s been a frustrating watch at times with too much ‘fun’ between the presenters and not enough true analysis of what we’re seeing.

For example, ‘that was a good rep’ is not analysis. Let’s have a specific, expert breakdown on what a player is doing well/poorly. Instead what we’ve had is a lot of ‘banter’, anecdotes, jokes and very little on the players. Maybe that’s what a wider audience wants? But I still have a hard time believing there’s a ‘half interested’ audience watching what is still a niche event. And doesn’t even a half-interested audience want to analysis that is something akin to how the teams will be critiquing what we’re seeing?

Jarrett Stidham has looked sharp but that’s no surprise. At Auburn he was told what to do and could do it. He has a strong arm. The issue is — can he throw with accuracy and precision when things break down or he has to go through progressions?

There’s a Malik McDowell update…

Hands up, who thought he’d already been cut?

Meanwhile, teams are starting to ask about Josh Rosen…

I can’t believe the Cardinals have actively indulged in creating chaos just to create a market for #1 overall. They surely must be interested in Kyler Murray?

The NFL Network is winding things down now so I’m going to end the live blog. The review piece will be up shortly and don’t forget to check out our daily combine podcast.

87 Comments

  1. SwissHawk

    Yes, definitely getting positive vibes about Frank signing. JS went overboard in his presser about the level of trust he and Frank have in each other and Frank’s social media comments have been very pro-Hawks…so fingers crossed this gets done ASAP.

    • SwissHawk

      …and the ‘almost universal’ view now is that Kyler goes number 1 overall. Nice work Rob!

      • Rob Staton

        Thanks!

  2. Sea Mode

    Notes from Pauline’s podcast:
    https://bleav.com/podcast/nfl-scouting-combine-draft-rumors-and-day-1-of-workouts/

    – Drew Lock will go much earlier than anticipated by most. He talked to “someone” yesterday who even thought that he would be a top-10 pick (Pauline doesn’t agree). Teams love his arm, which is getting comps to Mahomes, albeit with more inconsistencies.

    – Josh Jacobs goes no earlier than #20.

    – 5 EDGE in top 15, graded in this order strictly as rushers (Bosa will still go earlier because of all-around game): Josh Allen, Jachai Polite, Nick Bosa, Montez Sweat, Brian Burns.

    -15 TEs in first 125 picks (first 4 rounds). Josh Oliver day 2 pick if he can run around 4.75. Drew Sample is like FA Nick Boyle, in whom 19 teams have shown interest. Sample will be in demand.

    – Jacoby Brisett is on the trade block. Looking for maybe late round conditional this year that becomes higher depending on how much he plays next year.

    – OL standouts: Ryan Bates, Garrett Bradberry (95% chance he goes in R1), Nate Davis, Andre Dilliard, Cody Ford (didn’t test great, but drills were excellent. made his case to be a R1 pick), Chris Lindstrom, Erik McCoy, Josh Miles, Sua Opeta, Oli Udoh.

    – Dalton Risner a R3 guy after poor testing.

    – For RBs he just reviewed the results and stated the obvious.

    – WRs preview/prediction:
    Hakeem Butler low 4.5s, big vert, great in drills
    Alex Wesley in 4.3s
    McLaurin high 4.2s to low 4.3s, scouts have to figure out why that and his Sr. Bowl dominance didn’t show up on Ohio St. film.
    Isabella high 4.2s
    Campbell 4.3s

    • C-Dog

      That’s a huge drop in the earlier reported asking price of Brissett. Makes you think teams aren’t seeing anything more than a potential bridge player. Wonder if the Hawks take a flyer on him with a 2020 pick.

      • Sea Mode

        From Pauline today:

        To follow up on my report from Friday’s podcast about a potential Jacoby Brissett trade, I’ve spoken with several people who feel the Colts would demand a second-round choice for Brissett. If they were to lose him in free agency after the 2019 season, they would likely receive a compensatory third-round pick based on the contract he’s likely to sign; hence the second-round price tag.

        http://draftanalyst.com/combine-notes-saturday

        • C-Dog

          This makes better sense.

  3. Sea Mode

    This DB class certainly does NOT have a wingspan problem! 😍 We’ve got work to do, SDB!

  4. King_Rajesh

    TEs out here making some MONEY.

    They running fast this year.

    • Volume12

      Every one but Wesco, Kaden Smith, Nauta, and Gentry.

  5. Sea Mode

    Just leaving this here from the end of last thread:

    Jo. Bitonio: 6042, 302, 33 7/8, 80 7/8w, 4.97 40yd, 4.44 SS, 9.50 BJ, 32.0 VJ, 3.02 TEF, 91.30 wTEF
    Ga. Bolles: 6050, 297, 34 arm, 81 wing, 4.95 40yd, 4.55 SS, 9.58 BJ, 28.0 VJ, 3.00 TEF, 89.10 wTEF
    Lindstrom: 6036, 308, 34 1/8, 80 1/8w, 4.91 40yd, 4.54 SS, 9.75 BJ, 30.5 VJ, 3.18 TEF, 97.98 wTEF

    • Rob Staton

      Perhaps even more interesting is the comp between Sweezy and Lindstrom.

      Sweezy — 6046, 298, 5.01 forty, 36 vert, 9-5 broad, 4.41 ss, 7.40 3c, 3.13 TEF, 93.2 wTEF

      Lindstrom — 6036, 308, 4.91 40yd, 4.54 SS, 9-7 BJ, 30.5 VJ, 3.18 TEF, 97.98 wTEF

      • Sea Mode

        Absolutely.

        Also, Zach Whitman coming in huge again with the SPARQ scores (and the most-complete and prettiest table formats IMO). OL and RB are up already:
        https://3sigmaathlete.com/sparq-rankings-2019/offensive-line/

        Lindstrom in 95.8% SPARQ in NFL.

        • Rob Staton

          Zach certainly does a good job

      • Aaron

        I really like Lindstrom, but he’s going to be gone before 40 imo. So we’d have to use our first pick on him. A little rich to me.

        • Rob Staton

          Depends on what happens with Sweezy

  6. Sea Mode

    Interesting… 🤔

    Ian Rapoport
    @RapSheet

    An interesting name to watch for free agency: #Bengals OT Jake Fisher is down to 285 pounds as he reinvents himself as a blocking tight end, I’m told. He’s been running routes with current NFL QBs in Cali this offseason. Teams are intrigued and wanting to work him out.

    7:28 AM – 2 Mar 2019

    • Gaeilge

      Very interesting, indeed! Jake was an athletic freak as an offensive lineman and will only be 26 come training camp. If I remember correctly, he began his career at UO as a TE. Intriguing possibility…

      • Coleslaw

        Fant and Fisher as the 6th and 7th OL would be legit lol. Add a FB and Carson will not be denied any TDs this year.

  7. C-Dog

    Hugely positive news on Clark. IMO, it’s vitally important that he not play on the tag.

  8. Bigten

    With so many standout OL, how is that going to affect the first round defensive guys? Also, with Oliver lacking in size and length, could be possibly fall out of the first with how deep it is at his position?

    • Rob Staton

      I don’t think so. It’s likely that Andre Dillard moves into a top-15 lock position. Chris Lindstrom, Elgton Jenkins and Erik McCoy secured top-50 grades. But round one is still going to be loaded with defensive linemen.

      I think Ed Oliver will last into the teens.

  9. David Ashton

    Parris Campbell jumping well. Showing the explosive traits I expected.

  10. Volume12

    Irv Smith is the guy here folks.

    • Rob Staton

      He caught the ball well but he is what he is. A 4.6 big slot receiver.

      • Volume12

        That’s ok. He’s 20 years old. A lot to work with.

  11. Isaac

    Last year the hawks drafted will dissly in the 4th. Mainly to support the run game but they found out he can catch once they had him in camp. Is there a Will dissly clone this year they go after?

    • Rob Staton

      There a handful of players with similar playing styles for sure.

  12. Volume12

    So, Seattle’s met with just about every Udub guy here and CB Jordan Miller is right in their wheelhouse?

  13. C-Dog

    Those are pretty decent times for Sample. Seahawks go back to back drafts on a Husky TE?

    It was a bit interesting that Carroll mentioned Dissly, Dickson, and Fant as their tight ends, and failed to even bring up Vannett. Assuming that they might be ready to move on from Vannett, that would leave a tight end run consisting of a former offensive lineman, a player coming off serious knee injury and an ancient stop gap.

    I can see them seriously looking at these tight ends.

    • Rob Staton

      Pauline and Jeremiah have both mentioned today a lot of teams are interested in Sample in the middle rounds. Wonder if he ends up going a little too early. Might have to take him in R3. But there’s enough in this TE class to get someone.

  14. Volume12

    Wow! Some NFL teams want to see Dre’Mont Jones work out as a LB.

  15. Coleslaw

    Drew Lock is gonna make someone take him in the top 15. I see Murray, Haskins and him going top 15, if not top 10, in that order ((Although I would take Lock over Haskins) and Grier over Haskins) I think we see all 4 of them in round 1, maybe even Daniel Jones in the back end.

    • Rob Staton

      I think Lock might go before Haskins.

      • C-Dog

        +1

      • Coleslaw

        He definitely should IMO.

    • Rik

      I’m no scout, but Haskins looks much smoother with his delivery than the other QBs. More speed and accuracy on the ball. Grier is having trouble with accuracy on the out routes, and Jones, Browning, and Fitzgerald have obviously weaker arms than Haskins and Lock. Tyree Jackson seems to be aiming the ball and looks very unnatural and inaccurate.

    • Dale Roberts

      The Broncos, Jags, and Redskins are desperate and may force the issue by moving into the top five picks. The Saints, Packers, Pats, Steelers, Giants, and Chargers have older stars but no heir apparent. Who knows what’s going on with the Dolphins and Bucs. There is significant demand. The Cardinals, 49ers, Jets, Raiders, and Bucs can get what they want even if they drop to the tenth pick. I think Lock is a lock for a top five pick and Haskins goes in the top ten.

  16. Sea Mode

    Hockenson with the 37.5 vert.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D0q_divXgAI5NiB.png:large

  17. Cameron

    Darn, with Campbell’s workout (though not entirely unexpected), I wonder if that pushes him out of range post-trade-down.

  18. Trevor

    Drew Sample would make a ton of sense for fhe Hawks.

    Great 40 time for Hakeem Butler. A 4.49 for a guy that size is amazing.

    • Rob Staton

      It’s a good time for Butler but not amazing.

    • Volume12

      Very good time for him. Huge.

  19. Eli

    There are some cornerbacks worth a look, my goodness. Gotta think the Hawks instantly start taking serious looks at Justin Layne, Jordan Miller, and Derrek Thomas.

    • Volume12

      Derrek Thomas and Layne are 2 of my personal favorites in this class.

  20. Rik

    Will Grier missed 3 straight throws on the left out. Short area accuracy problems and a funny motion.

    Parris Campbell is superman!

  21. C-Dog

    Something interesting that I heard on 710 this morning. Apparently the Yankees aren’t expecting RW to be around Spring training, if at all.

    Could this signal the start of negotiations and the team is asking that if they are preparing to make him the richest player in the league, they don’t want him taking batting practices or sliding around bases?

  22. Volume12

    Noah Fant is killing it. Unreal. That sub 7 3 cone is something else.

    • Rob Staton

      Foster Moreau killing it more. 4.11 short shuttle!

      • Eli

        Stuff like this really makes me wonder – his testing numbers pop out at you, but his career stats make you think he’s just another blocking tight end with hands of stone. Maybe he actually does have poor catching ability, but you’d think with his athletic traits a coaching staff would work harder to improve that for him. I’m intrigued by him

        • Sanders

          Moreau combine numbers don’t match up with his on the field play speed. Moreau plays stiff and unathletic on the field. Whereas TJ Hockenson plays faster than his combine 40-time. IMO Moreau is at best a 5th round prospect.

    • Trevor

      Fant is a sick athlete. Both Iowa TE could go in top 25.

      Have to check out Moreau he was really impressive today. Oliver from SJST is another day #3 guy I want to take a closer look at.

      • Sea Mode

        Oliver is Day 2 all the way now. Pauline said in his podcast yesterday:

        Josh Oliver day 2 pick if he can run around 4.75

        He ran 4.63.

      • Volume12

        Nailed it with Josh Oliver. He was very impressive.

  23. Trevor

    I could definitely see one of the two Ohio St Wr (Campbell or McLaurin) as the Hawks 1st pick after a trade back into the early 2nd.

    They tick all the boxes. Fast, explosive, hard workers, good team guys and special teams standouts.

    Pete loved Percy Harvin’s playing style. These guys offer it without all the baggage and drama.

  24. Volume12

    *Reminder*

    Seattle has never taking a TE with a 3 cone over 7.10, even their UDFA’s IIRC. You better be able to try and match what these athletes at DE are doing/capable of.

    • Rob Staton

      There’s some consistency there. But Foster Moreau just ran one of the best short shuttles in the last 10 years at 4.11. I’m not sure they’re going to not take him because the three-cone is 7.16.

      • Coleslaw

        Explosive and athletic with pretty decent size. Should really help in run blocking at the second level. Maybe a fullback convert? He has everything I would look for in my ideal fullback, minus 10-15 pounds.

  25. Trevor

    Miles Boykin is another freak at 6-4 /220lbs. I have to check him out too. He put on a show today for a guy that size every bit as explosive as Metcalf who is just ridiculous.

  26. Nick Cassella

    Can’t wait for McLaurin!

  27. HoosierHawk

    First off, thank you all for giving me a place to come and read about two of my favorite things (Hawks and the draft). Living in the Midwest, I am bombarded by Bears, Colts, and Packers talk everywhere I turn. This is my escape from that nonsense. Long time reader, but first time poster and I had a question about a favorite prospect of mine. Wondered what you all thought about Miles Boykin out of ND. I’m an Irish fan (insert insults and jokes here), so I have watched every game he has played in college. Seemed like just a guy the first time I saw him play, but he has improved every year. Never looked fast to me, but the forty time today says otherwise. Big, strong guy who isn’t afraid to block. Played with a scrambling QB and a pocket passer and did well with both. Could be had later in the draft. I know Rob has said that the offense likes smaller, quicker receivers and I agree, but a big body stick mover wouldn’t hurt. Just wondering if he is on anybody else’s radar.

    If they do take him, I promise I’ll hold off on buying a jersey. Didn’t work so well the last time with my Prosise jersey.

    • GerryG

      Welcome to world of posting! 🙂

      Question: did your Prosise Jersey need repair after the first time you wore it? When you sent it in to the seamstress did it take 6 weeks longer to fix than you expected? 😉

  28. Adog

    Just watched a little bit of wrs… group one…Mike’s guyton looked very crisp and smooth in his routes and suddenness. Is this a guy the Seahawks target?

  29. Coleslaw

    Metcalf a top 20 lock?

    Compares so much to Megatron, but I don’t believe he’s the same player, or even close honestly. He can definitely be a weapon with those traits, but he’s not going to be as good as Calvin, no way no how. Would love him in Seattle though for sure.

    • Rob Staton

      I wouldn’t say a top-20 lock. There are still a lot of question marks there — especially with the state of his neck and his route running. But running a 4.33 will tempt teams to take a chance a lot earlier than they would’ve been prepared to before today.

      This sums it up I think: http://walterfootball.com/nflhotpress/article/DK-Metcalf-is-a-Love-or-Hate-Prospect

      • Dale Roberts

        Have they had medicals? Schefter tweeted on Metcalf’s return, “cleared today for all football activity with no limitations, per Dr Kevin Foley, who performed his surgery.”

        • Rob Staton

          He was cleared for football by a doctor but the medical checks at the combine are very different — and teams will make an assessment on the likely longevity of his career.

  30. Kenny Sloth

    Wow wow wow

    DK droppin my jaw w that scorching 4.33

  31. Sea Mode

    I think Isabella and Metcalf switched bodies for the 40…

  32. SamL

    This draft class is starting to look very deep at multiple positions. The depth for DL has been known for awhile, but there seems to be some great depth at OL, WR, and TE. I have no idea what position the Seahawks are going to take and that makes this offseason all the more enjoyable. My money, however, is on them taking somebody on the offensive side of the ball with their first pick.

    • Rob Staton

      Definitely. It’s like this — extremely deep in round one for D-liners. Every other position isn’t great in R1. But the depth across the board with a few exceptions (S, RB, LB) is really cool.

      Further evidence why they’ll trade down — probably multiple times.

  33. Trevor

    Metcalf is officially an all time combine freak. Wow

  34. Sea Mode

    Yes! Deebo made it into the 4.4s.

    Sad for Riley Ridley though.

    And what is this??

    Field Yates
    @FieldYates

    Fear not: there was a laser issue during UMass WR Andy Isabella 40-yard run. His official time, as is listed in the system NFL teams work off of, was 4.27, per source. Hand timings were from 4.27-low 4.3’s.

    1:05 PM – 2 Mar 2019

    • Rob Staton

      Don’t really understand that tweet. Because his second forty was a 4.47. Was the laser not working then too?

      • Sea Mode

        I have no idea, but this is official:

        NFL Draft
        @NFLDraft

        Top official 40 times for wide receivers at #NFLCombine (all groups):

        t1. Parris Campbell, @OhioStateFB, 4.31
        t1. Andy Isabella, @UMassFootball, 4.31
        t3. Mecole Hardman, @FootballUGA , 4.33
        t3. D.K. Metcalf, @OleMissFB, 4.33
        5. Terry McLaurin, @OhioStateFB, 4.35

        1:21 PM – 2 Mar 2019

        • Bigten

          I found interesting that while doing an over lap of the runs, metcalf beat isabella, yet the time was slower.

      • Sanders

        I believe the start time is hand timed, with a laser finish time. So, the combine 40 is still flawed.

  35. Volume12

    Might be the only one here, but I could see Seattle being interested by WR Hakeem Butler. Not perfect, has some things he needs to be more consistent at, and has a specific role and skills, but he could be very well be a project that entices them.

    Not a 1st rounder for me at all.

    Arms as long as OT Lane Johnson, hands are the 3rd biggest among WRs since ’99. Absolute freak of nature. Bully on the field, love the confidence, seems eager to learn, special ability/alpha male at the catchpoint. Was one of the most dominant receiver in college this year.

    When he was 16 his mom died of breast cancer, moved from Baltimore to Texas to live w/ his cousins. The Harrison twins. Former standout CBB players at Kentucky. MegaTron and Anquan Boldin have been mentoring him. Said Baltimore taught him ‘how to be a dog’ and you ‘can’t take no days off.’

    • Rob Staton

      The Seahawks could take Butler in R3-4 but no earlier IMO. He fits in terms of size/speed but the drops and lack of separation are a thing. Especially the drops.

    • Sea Mode

      I was intrigued by him too:
      https://seahawksdraftblog.com/podcast-dallas-aftermath-the-2018-season-and-looking-ahead#comment-398902

      but Rob is right: his body language today was terrible. And I only tuned in literally for a couple minutes to that group and it was enough to see exactly what he was talking about.

      Could easily see a VMAC invite to get to the bottom of who he is, but I would much rather not go down that road and get a McLaurin or Campbell instead that you know you will have no character problems with.

      • JJ

        My crush on Mclaurin is only getting bigger.

    • Sanders

      Butler looks to have great ball skills in traffic, and he has the dog in him to get yards after the catch. I would be cool with drafting him in the 2nd round.

  36. Sea Mode

    Ian Rapoport
    @RapSheet

    The #Seahawks are finally and officially releasing former high draft pick DT Malik McDowell, source said. He will be on waivers and would like to continue his football career.

    1:21 PM – 2 Mar 2019

  37. Volume12

    Al Davis ghost is gonna haunt Jon Gruden if he passes on DK Metcalf at #4.

    • Eburgz

      If he makes it past the jets.

    • AlaskaHawk

      Yes = the man is ripped and can catch the ball. Would be a good replacement for Amari Cooper. Not sure what they are doing at QB though. Are they going to get some competition for Carr? They weren’t very happy with him at the end of last season.

  38. SamL

    Metcalf has to go top 15 now right? With all these big risers from OL to TE to WR maybe a guy like Sweat, Burns, or Polite could be available in the 30-35 range, if they trade down to around that range. With Burns coming in at a good weight I might prefer him.

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