Welcome to the 2023 NFL combine coverage on Seahawks Draft Blog
Throughout the next few days I’ll be reacting live to everything happening in Indianapolis. I will also post a daily recap article and a daily live stream.
On top of that, Robbie Williams is attending the combine and will provide insight from his perspective inside Lucas Oil Field.
Keep refreshing this page for updates
The workouts begin today at 3pm ET (12pm PT).
If you want measurements for the defensive backs (and all positions so far) click here.
Cornerback Devon Witherspoon isn’t testing at the combine. Presumably trying to hide a bad forty.
DB broad jumps
Julius Brents: 11’6″
Deonte Banks: 11’4″
Cam Smith: 11’2″
Jakorian Bennett: 11’1″
Christian Gonzalez: 11’1″
Jay Ward: 11′
Tre’Vius Hodges-Tomlinson: 11′
Cory Trice Jr: 11′
DJ Turner: 10’11”
Kyu Blu Kelly: 10’11”
Joey Porter Jr.: 10’9″
Mekhi Garner: 10’8″
Carrington Valentine: 10’8″
Riley Moss: 10’7″
Brian Branch: 10’5″
Mekhi Blackmon: 10’5″
Tyrique Stevenson: 10’5″
Emmanuel Forbes: 10’4″
Lance Boykin: 10’4″
Nic Jones: 10’2″
Jaylon Jones: 10’2″
Keele Ringo: 10’2″
Kei’Trel Clark: 10’2″
Alex Austin: 10’2″
Darius Rush: 10’1″
Terell Smith: 10′
Anthony Johnson: 9’8″
Arquon Bush: 9’7″
DB vertical jumps
Deonte Banks: 42″
Julius Brents: 41.5″
Christian Gonzalez: 41.5″
Jakorian Bennett: 40.5″
Darrell Luter Jr.: 40.5″
Tre’Vius Hodges-Tomlinson: 39″
Riley Moss: 39″
DJ Turner: 38.5″
Tyrique Stevenson: 38.5″
Mekhi Garner: 38″
Jaylon Jones: 38″
Cam Smith: 38″
Emmanuel Forbes: 37.5″
Kyu Blu Kelly: 36″
Mekhi Blackmon: 36″
Cory Trice Jr.: 35.5″
Cameron Mitchell: 35″
Joey Porter Jr.: 35″
Darius Rush: 35″
Nic Jones: 34.5″
Kei’Trel Clark: 34.5″
Jay Ward: 34.5″
Brian Branch: 34.5″
Terell Smith: 34″
Arquon Bush: 33.5″
Keelee Ringo: 33.5″
Clark Phillips III: 33″
Alex Austin: 33″
Anthony Johnson: 30.5″
40 yard dash (cornerbacks)
Alex Austin — 4.56 & 4.55
Deonte Banks — 4.36 & 4.35
Jakorian Bennett — 4.31 & 4.32
Mekhi Blackmon — 4.47 & 4.53
Brian Branch — 4.58 & 4.61
Julius Brents — 4.53 & 4.59
Arquon Bush — 4.54 & 4.54
Kei’Trel Clark — 4.42 & 4.43
Emmanuel Forbes — 4.35 & 4.36
Mekhi Garner — 4.55 & 4.63
Christian Gonzalez — 4.44 & 4.38
Anthony Johnson — 4.64 & 4.65
Jaylon Jones — 4.60 & 4.57
Nic Jones — 4.56 & 4.52
Kyu Blu Kelly — 4.52 & 4.54
Darrell Luter Jr — 4.46 & 4.46
Cameron Mitchell — 4.48 & 4.51
Riley Moss — 4.48 & 4.46
Clark Phillips — 4.51 & 4.54
Joey Porter Jr — 4.47 & 4.52
Kelee Ringo — 4.36 & 4.45
Darius Rush — 4.37 & DNR
Cam Smith — 4.45 & 4.44
Terell Smith — 4.42 & 4.42
Tyrique Stevenson — 4.46 & 4.50
Tre’Vius Hodges-Tomlinson — 4.42 & 4.48
Cory Trice Jr — 4.51 & 4.47
D.J. Turner — 4.27 & DNR
Jay Ward — 4.57 & 4.56
Sauce Gardner is on the NFL Network, he says the most uncomfortable interview he had at the combine last year was with the Seahawks. He says Pete Carroll got really close up to him in the room and kept interrupting his answers to push him. Gardner was saying it semi-jokingly.
Cornerback on-field drills
The NFL Network, again, isn’t showing a lot of the drills. I thought the initial backpedal ‘line’ drills were sloppy across the board. Players were jogging, they were distracted and dropping the ball, the transition wasn’t good and a lot of players weren’t flipping their hips properly. The coaches need to get this going.
Deonte Banks looks fantastic. Big, muscular but quick. I’ll be interested to see his agility testing with that frame.
I can’t believe who mediocre Brian Branch looks. His testing was poor and in drills he looks nothing like the Rolls Royce we saw at Alabama.
Riley Moss has had the best backpedal and transition so far. Very fluid hips and change of direction. Kelee Ringo looked almost as bad as Brian Branch — stiff and unable to track the ball.
Cam Smith looked almost as smooth as Moss backpedaling.
They’ve now flipped the field to the other side and Ringo looks totally lost in the backpedal and transition. They had to stop his second rep to tell him how to do it. He looks so stiff. Cam Smith looked great again on his rep — he shifts position and flips his hips with ease.
I liked Jakorian Bennett, Julius Brents and Brian Branch in the ‘W’ drill. Quick, decisive moments. The rake in shorts, Emmanuel Forbes, also looked reasonable.
Lots of players are slipping and sliding on the turf.
D.J. Turner is not doing field drills. He says he will wait until pro-day.
I really like what Riley Moss is showing in these drills. Julius Brents had some issues changing direction on tape but I think he’s done an admirable job here for his size. He didn’t have a good rep in the gauntlet. That was Brian Branch’s best drill.
The cornerback drills have gone on far too long again, just like last year. Daniel Jeremiah revealed he asked a GM why. Apparently the assistant coaches running the drills ‘insist’ on doing the drills they’ve picked. It’s ridiculous. The DB sessions are notoriously long and dull and go on forever. The league needs to step in.
Official cornerback 40’s
DJ Turner — 4.26
Jakorian Bennett — 4.30
Deonte Banks — 4.35
Emmanuel Forbes — 4.35
Kelee Ringo — 4.36
Darius Rush — 4.36
Christian Gonzalez — 4.38
Tre’Vius Hodges-Tomlinson — 4.41
Terell Smith — 4.41
Kei’Trel Clark — 4.42
Cam Smith — 4.43
Riley Moss — 4.45
Tyrique Stevenson — 4.45
Joey Porter Jr — 4.46
Darrell Luter Jr — 4.46
Cameron Mitchell — 4.47
Mekhi Blackmon — 4.47
Corey Trice Jr — 4.47
Nic Jones — 4.51
Clark Phillips — 4.51
Kyu Blu Kelly — 4.52
Julius Brents — 4.53
Arquon Bush — 4.54
Mekhi Garner — 4.55
Jay Ward — 4.55
Alex Austin — 4.55
Jaylon Jones — 4.57
Brian Branch — 4.58
Anthony Johnson — 4.63
Safety broad jumps
Sydney Brown: 10’10”
Chamarri Conner: 10’5″
Trey Dean III: 10’4″
DeMarcco Hellams: 10’1″
Ji’Ayir Brown: 9’11”
Anthony Johnson Jr.: 10’5″
Brandon Hill: 10’3″
Jordan Howden: 9’11”
Tyreque Jones: 9’11”
Antonio Johnson: 9’10”
Safety vertical jumps
Jartavius Martin: 44″
Jason Taylor II: 43″
Sydney Brown: 40.5″
Chamarri Conner: 40.5″
Daniel Scott: 39.5″
Gervarrius Owens: 37.5″
Trey Dean III: 36.5″
Kaevon Merriweather: 35.5″
Jammie Robinson: 33.5″
Rashad Torrence II: 33.5″
Christopher Smith II: 33″
Ji’Ayir Brown: 32.5″
Brandon Joseph: 30.5″
Safety 40 yard dash times
Jordan Battle — 4.56 & 4.57
Ji’Ayir Brown — 4.66 & 4.65
Sydney Brown — 4.49 & 4.48
Chamarri Conner — 4.52 & 4.54
Trey Dean — 4.75 & 4.78
DeMarcco Hellams — 4.58 & 4.59
Brandon Hill — 4.44 & 4.44
Jordan Howden — 4.54 & 4.49
Anthony Johnson Jr — 4.56 & 4.54
Antonio Johnson — 4.52 & 4.55
Tyreque Jones — 4.52 & 4.61
Brandon Joseph — 4.62 & 4.67
Jartavius Martin — 4.46 & 4.50
Kaevon Merriweather — 4.69 & 4.62
Jammie Robinson — 4.60 & 4.59
Daniel Scott — 4.45 & 4.49
Chris Smith — 4.66 & 4.62
Jason Taylor — 4.50 & 4.53
Rashad Torrence — 4.74 & 4.72
That was possibly the dullest set of forty times I’ve ever watched.
It took forever with very little intrigue.
This is not a good safety class. And now we get to watch them do two whole hours of pretty much the same drill over and over again.
In the initial line drills, the coaches had to again get on the group (as with the cornerbacks) to actually run. They were consistently asking for more speed.
Ji’Ayir Brown has not tested as well as expected and he looks a bit stiff in drills. However, he is incredibly well put together — thick and physical.
It’s a low-energy workout again this year with the DB’s. This is always my least favourite combine day. Charles Davis just said the coaches got on the group because they’re too quiet. There’s a distinct lack of speed and swag on the field currently.
The TV team are just rambling on about nonsense, making this a harder watch than it even was before.
I like the look of Jartavius Martin. Nice compact frame. Quick and tested well. Looks like a good option for the nickel.
Chris Smith had a great year for Georgia but running in the 4.6’s and not looking particularly quick covering the field here will drop his stock on my board. He needs to be dynamic as his size.
Is it more possible for the NFL Network to stop pissing around for five minutes and give us some analysis on the drills?
Jartavius Martin continues to be the standout athlete for me. Very fluid with his movements. Great body type. Just looks made to play in the league.
In what is being called the Teryl Austin drill #2, we’ve seen a number of safeties show great change of direction as they’re getting warmed up. Chris Smith, Sydney Brown, Ji’Ayir Brown and Jartavius Martin all transitioned brilliantly.
Sydney Brown really warmed into his drills and started to flash his obvious athleticism — moving freely and showing loose hips.
Official 40’s for the safety class
Brandon Hill — 4.44
Daniel Scott — 4.45
Jartavius Martin — 4.46
Sydney Brown — 4.47
Jordan Howden — 4.49
Jason Taylor — 4.50
Chamarri Conner — 4.51
Tyreque Jones — 4.52
Antonio Johnson — 4.52
Anthony Johnson — 4.54
Jordan Battle — 4.55
DeMarcco Hellams — 4.57
Jammie Robinson — 4.59
Chris Smith — 4.62
Brandon Joseph — 4.62
Kaevon Merriweather — 4.62
Ji’Ayir Brown — 4.65
Rashad Torrence — 4.72
Trey Dean — 4.75
They’re only doing the gauntlet now so I’m going to end the live blog and begin writing my daily round-up piece. Stay tuned.
I’m going to betray my ignorance. But arm length for safety? Is it as important to the hawks?
Brents already killing it in the jumps. He may make a jump into the top 60 if he runs well (he will)
I wonder if Brents bucks the seahawks trend there’s always a first time..
Juju’s 40 times were disappointing. I hope his Pro-Day goes better. He looked faster than that at the Senior Bowl. I still want him to be a Seahawk.
The explosive tests he looked pretty great though. Could be he’s not fast per se or he could have missed his jump off.
Think that was the best thing to happen for the hawks. Sherman didnt run fast either. This could allow him to fall to our 4th round pick
A 4.59 for a pro outside corner is pushing it. He’s got the reach and the vertical that will help, but still that’s close to the limit…
Rob has him listed at 4.53.
Again he might be able to speed that up at his proday. But the rest of the stats you could work with that. And by you I mean Pete carrol.
Just finished the live stream. Glad we agree on Anderson. I’m just left wanting more. And thinking I can get pretty damn close to what he offers later on.
The word that comes to mind with Anthony Richardson is authentic. He’s authentic. The comments he made in the clip you shared, those reveal his vulnerability as a person, and that’s real. That’s genuine.
Great leaders are authentic
I agree with a ton of your takes but re: qb. I think if a qb hits five, that John likes; levis or richardson, I think they skip to the podium and never look back.
I get trades I really do. But John will have a hard time moving forward if either lasts to five and either get taken and turn into great.
Oh I think QB at 5 is most likely. And as long as it’s not Bryce Young, I’ll be happy. I won’t be unhappy if it’s Young, just not as enthused.
But if the QBs are gone and it’s Will Anderson at 5? No thanks. I’d much rather trade down.
I think JS is going to have to trade up to get one of the QBs not named Bryce Young. I think its becoming more evident by the day. Fortunately, we have the draft capital to do it.
Yeah on Anderson. After a good not great day I’m leaning trade down and bulk up on the big boys in the second, RG/Center, third reciever, te, Brents,
There’s a ton of talent if not on paper tippy top names to move this team forward.
I can’t get behind a plan that turns a top-five pick into a plan to draft a guard, a center and a WR3
You’ve got to turn this pick into something big
There are four QB’s and at least one pass rusher. Anderson has qualities, he’s just not rare
Agree 100% on the OG/etc.
But would you prefer Will Anderson alone or Will McDonald + Mazi Smith (as one example)
Sign me up for the latter….
This was what I was talking about.
I think trading up is the best play here to ensure you lock down the best QB prospects (whether it’s to move up to 1 or 3). Wil Anderson just seems massively disappointing at 5 when we could be getting a long term answer at QB. JS will likely not be on this type of position again to draft a QB from a top heavy QB class. I think JS HAS to seriously consider making a move up.
I meant a collection of pieces rather than Anderson.
Not just guard.
I know — but to me you’re not going to be in this position again
If they come out of it having only added a center (in a bad class), depth at guard and a WR3 — that to me would be a let down.
I’d rather take a chance on Anderson or Wilson if the QB’s are gone
Options as I see it with the picks from Wilson trade:
1. Cross, Mafe, Anderson, Downs…..I’d actually be pretty happy with this.
2. Cross, Mafe, trade down for Macdonald (net at least a second this year if not a second and maybe a third or fourth), Downs, Mauch ( 2nd round?) Brents with the added third. For me I’d be even happier.
3. Trade 5, 20, 37..cry once and get Richardson. Wilson for Cross, Mafe, qbotf.? Before the Wilson trade I’d be skeptical of that haul. After Wilson last year if you told me you could turn Wilson into a qb of the future I’d be stoked.
Remember I didn’t include in scenarios 1 and 2 Seattle’s picks which could still be anything from Mayer to ade ade and/or benton or similar.
I don’t think it’s that unlikely a good QB lasts to 5
I hope so Rob. I hope so.
Starting to think as Richardson climbs Levis falls.
Levis will be a big favourite this time tomorrow
I think JS should just bite the bullet and move up just to ensure he gets his guy, just hoping Richardson Stroud or Levis falls to you just seems like very wishful thinking. I dont want to be stuck with Bryce Young as the QB option at 5.
Im starting to come around on Bryce Young. He has everything you would want in a qb, except size. Just have the mindset that his career might not be 10-15 years. Draft interior Oline help for him.
If he gives the seahawks 5-7 elite years, im good with that.
One thing that Schneider talked about re: the combine and I’ve heard from other GMs is that the combine doesn’t really change their draft boards. They have been scouting these kids for years. “They use the combine mainly for medicals and to answer questions.” Those questions could be interview type questions about character or fit. Or it could be whether a kid is really as fast or slow as the scouts believe.
So, I think Rob is right that one of the QBs will be available at 5. Mahomes and Josh Allen were not top-5 picks because they had some of the same issues that Levis and Richardson have.
The media mock drafts have “combine risers and fallers” but professional draft boards not so much. Rob is very different from media mock drafters because he puts in so much time reviewing tape and doing his own scouting. But even he can’t match the entire scouting department of a professional team.
I’ve kind of rattled around with that thought as well if somehow Young falls to #5. You take him knowing he’s not likely to be a lifetime-type quarterback. Best case at the end of his rookie deal, you foist him off on another team for a haul like Russ, take the profit and run like a bandit to go get the next guy at the top of the draft.
Easy to say, hard to do in real life. If Young delivers on his promise, there would be immense pressure from the fans, coaching staff, players and probably the ownership to keep a good thing going and to avoid selling high.
If he truly delivers then do you move off from him.
I mean he seems like such a dialed in qb that doesn’t take the hits and is uch more drew Brees than Wilson was.
I think the move rotating qbs is being brave when the guy is good but not great.
Strangely JS may be one of a few gm’s in that position to do something like that. Snead before they f-ed them picks so hard they don’t have a team.
Levis says he did not meet with the Hawks at the Combine. Houston and Carolina.
With Schneider, I don’t think that means anything…
Impossible to read into these meetings
It’s the official visits to focus on as we can glean something from those (but still not that much)
Juju Brents starting out hot.
Yesterday several of us, including me, said a worse case scenario is to have the three big QBs and Anderson off the board when the Seahawks pick at number five. After the meh results from Anderson, I think I have changed my mind and the worse case scenario is back to original all four QBs gone and the Seahawks on the clock at number five.
If this draft scenario plays out, I hope it is another team on the clock at 5 as the Seahawks have either traded up or down. My preference is a trade up but I would also rather trade down than pick Anderson.
Maybe a trade up to #3 with Arizona might be an opportunity to guarantee one of the top-3 QB’s?
It has been suggested that Arizona would likely draft Anderson at #3, but they could conceivably get Anderson at #5, so why not pick up an extra R-3 pick from the Seahawks, + maybe also getting some minor draft stock in the 2024 draft? The Seahawks would be back in business for one of the top 3 QB’s, with Young out of the picture (unless Young is a JS favorite of course). I’d feel a lot more confident that the Seahawks can get their QBOTF and would be more than happy with Richardson, Levis or Stroud, pretty much in that order.
Trade with Arizona to 1/3 probably takes the Seahawks their 37th + R4? If that’s correct, JS should do that automatically!
The Jets gave up THREE 2nd round picks to move up from #6 overall to #3 overall, which they used on Sam Darnold. If you think a 2nd and a 4th is enough to go from #5 to #3, I’d say probably not.
Emmanuel Forbes looked like a rake in shorts running the 40 at 166lbs
“Are those your legs, or are you riding a chicken?”
If he were only 15# heavier. He has a great nose for the ball but his run support is non-existent.
Forbes is interesting. Being 166 lbs is concerning but he’s productive with length and speed. If the lack of weight pushes him to day three. I’d take my chances trying to get some pounds on him.
What a workout from Deonte Banks! Julius Brents is getting a lot of attention but Banks is performing arguably better.
Deonte Banks is topping out the stats. 6’2”, 205 lbs, but he doesn’t have 32” arms
Deonte Banks. Damn. Those are some big numbers.
Hi. Are there any arm lengths handy??
Julius Brents has 33.75” arms and I bet he runs 4.4 on his second run.
Rob said this a deep draft in CB and he interview of Julius Brent’s seems to dead on. He seems to be killing combine so far definitely someone to consider if he’s at 83.
+ 32 arms
LAST NAME SCHOOL YEARS OUT OF HS HEIGHT WEIGHT HAND ARM WING 10 SPLT 40 TIME BENCH VERT BROAD 20S 3-CONE
Julius Brents K State 5 6026 198 958 3400 8258
JPorter Jr. Penn State 4 6024 193 1000 3400 8078
Darius Rush South Carolina 4 6020 198 948 3338
Terell Smith Minnesota 5 6004 204 900 3278
Anthony Johnson Virginia 6 6020 205 858 3258
Tyrique Stevenson Miami (FL) 4 6000 198 958 3258
Rezjohn Wright Oregon State 4 6020 193 958 3248
Lance Boykin Coastal Carolina 5 6020 200 968 3238
Nic Jone. Hall State 4 6000 189 1000 3238
Darrell Luter Jr. South Alabama 5 6000 189 1038 3238
Eli Ricks Alabama 3 6020 188 878 3238
Emmanuel Forbes Mississippi State 3 6006 166 848 3228 7900
Mekhi Garner LSU 5 6020 212 1018 3228
C ValentineKentucky 3 6000 193 928 3228
KyuBluKellyStanford 4 6000 191 968 3200
Christian Gonzalez
This is an honest question; but how is Emmanuel Forbes draftable at 166 lbs?
He hits like a train. Sure it’s Thomas the train, but still.
It’s weird because he doesn’t look it. Skinny legs but he looks at least 20 pounds heavier. If pushes him to day three I’d take a shot at fattening him up.
CB-D. J. Turner having a heck of a workout so far, moving up the ranks after his fantastic 40.
Wonder if Pete does that on purpose to see how they react. It is kind of weird.
That’s definitely what he’s doing
Remember this is the same dude that got shirtless with DK in the interview room. Man likes to be a little provocative.
He probably wants to see how they deal with situations they’re not prepared for. There’s going to be a lot of that as these young men become professional athletes and it’s good to know if someone can adapt quickly and positively.
Like Marshawn said on the LenDale White podcast. Pete is a master psychologist.
Oh, I would love to hear that! Got a link???
Darius Rush followed up his excellent Senior Bowl with a solid combine.
Yeah, I like his game a lot too. Good on STs. His SR bowl really piqued my interest
Moss doesn’t surprise me. He’s finally the blend of technique and athleticism that the Iowa db’s have been missing. He’ll be a starter for years.
I’ll be a little peeved if we pass on Van Ness, Campbell, and Moss. I’d be very comfortable with any of them.
I like Mike McDaniel
Agreed. Very different mindset/approach to the game
Got to admire the confidence but, man, Levis is getting torched by the Twitterverse here:
https://twitter.com/TampaBayTre/status/1631680637856890880?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1631680637856890880%7Ctwgr%5Eac3ae6b1e73d3eeb2a6d8d75c3470a83899e5d8c%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fthespun.com%2Fnfl%2Ftop-quarterback-prospect-has-perfect-response-when-asked-why-hes-throwing-at-combine
That time when Josh Allen was basically a meme.
I personally like the answer and his confidence in his arm. All this crap talk about him and how he under performed at Kentucky is just silly to me. He’s not afraid to go out there and show what he’s got. You tend to see quarterbacks only throw at their pro days which are scripted to their strengths.
Has someone asked all the naysayers, “And where is Bryce Young?”
People dogging him for being cocky but skipping the Senior Bowl.
Injuries?
I’ll take skipping tge senior bowl and at least competing at the combine vs. Players that are apparently healthy but won’t go this week.
PJ,
He played most of the season with a foot injury. Why wouldn’t you rest (something he was advised to do most of the season) to prepare for your biggest job interview ever?
Plus he did it all last year when he could have turtled up and claimed, rightfully, injury.
But it was important to him and his team that he play.
Personally, I hope this narrative that he looks great in workouts but sucks on the field really takes off. Would be nice to have him there for us at #5 and then all these trolls can light up JS for drafting the next Zach WIlson.
I’m here for that.
Twitterverse can piss off
Amen brother
Gonzalez looks like the real deal
Ringo visited with the Hawks. Doesn’t mean too much, since they meet with a ton of prospects, and Ringo has not tested well.
He fits in with who they normally meet with. I’m always underwhelmed with who they meet with, but they use it on late day 2 or later type picks so they can be around them more.
I’m excited for tommorow. Love this TE class. Potentially generational.
It would be hard to argue Musgrave isn’t BPA at 20 if he’s there. Mayer too.
I wonder if the Commanders would take Noah Fant and one of our R5 picks for Da’Ron Payne.
Take one of these two at 20 and send Fant to DC
That’s a Clowney type deal. Only way it happens is if Payne won’t sign the tag, won’t go anywhere else and he picks Seattle as where he wants to go.
If the Seahawks could pull that off I’d drive Fant to the airport myself.
Are the Commanders capable of carrying him on the tag? I’m not familiar with their cap situation
Yes. They cleared a bunch off with Wentz and a couple others.
Ok fine. Give ’em the R4 instead.
But seriously, they don’t really have a TE1.
Take a look at Tucker Kraft. Lesser known. Looks the deal. Curious to see how he tests. Rob mentioned him which led to me watching his highlights. Big guy that moves well and is hard to bring down.
Not sure how Christian Gonzalez can NOT be CB1 after today. Tape, athleticism matches, and the way he moves is almost unfair.
He is going to be really good from Day 1.
Pretty good 40 time for Battle
Sydney Brown is absolutely ripped
I’m liking Sydney Brown’s Combine so far
I’ve been a fan of all of the Illinois DBs. I really like Brown. The way he covers and runs is impressive. He does have a whole bunch of missed tackles in his career though.
Hearing scuttlebutt that Daniel Jones is getting $40 million plus a year. Won’t bode well for Geno negotiations if he does.
I don’t get it, who are they bidding against? Sure I guess it is the going rate, but it is only the going rate if you pay it.
Giants are flat out stupid if they pay Jones 40 per imo.
Agreed!
And we will be just as stupid if we give Geno 30.
💯
Hell I think over 20 is too much.
I think Carr’s signing is going to be more instructive. Jones just maybe has a bit more to go with age and finally having a real coach.
I think they’re very different situations, Jones and the Giants vs Geno and Seattle
Jones is 25 years old. The Giants don’t have a chance to pick any of the top 4 QBs in this draft. And they must obviously rate Jones better (for them) than any of the FA prospects. They aren’t setting the FA market by extending him.
I’m not defending it (if it’s even true). Just saying I don’t think it impacts what Seattle does with Geno, or what any other QB needy team does for that matter.
I hope it won’t either, but if I’m Geno’s agent when the contract drops, I’m immediately printing out DJ’s 3,200 yards and 92 passer rating and Geno’s 4,200 yards an 101 passer rating and handing it to the Front Office.
Hopefully the FO puts on film of every 33 year old qb including the former one who drops off a cliff once the new contract is signed.
Captain Wet Blanket checking in.
Don’t get too worked up until 1-the deal actually happens and 2-we get a look at the structure. Agents horse trade with reporters and leak to top sheet details first. Always.
Remember last year the first thing we heard is Geno got 1y $7m and we thought WHAT?! Then we found out it was $3.5m plus incentives of $3.5m.
Yeah I can only hope it’s heavily incentive based. Rob mentioned earlier this week it’s probably a poker contest right now between the FA agents and Front Offices. Whatever the first contract is is going to set a tone for the market and used as a touchpoint.
Please continue to be Capt Wet Blanket cha. Made me feel better.
Agreed, we need to wait for real markets and I think Geno may be the last “big” QB signed.
However, I’m almost hoping the QB market prices guys like Geno out of Seattle’s range. I just am not excited about having that average level QB. He could get better, but the Seahawks are so far from having the rest of the team good enough to have a decent QB win a Super Bowl. We saw that when the team breaks down physically, like losing Tyler, injured Abe, KW3, etc. that Geno isn’t good enough. If he was, the Seahawks could have been the Giants whooping the Vikings before getting smoked by the Eagles.
I know it would show the Seahawks hand to draft a QB if they don’t sign Geno, but I’d still rather have that instead of becoming the Jeff Fisher Seahawks.
The question is will we select one. Not sure we would carry 4 tight ends.
The three tight ends we already have played very well last year and are very expensive. I know 2 of them aren’t signed past 2023 but TE seems much more like a potential future problem than a right now problem like QB or the front 7 or Center or even like WR3 and CB2.
Hawks met with Michael Wilson
Another potential interview down the line, we’ve talked
Awesome! I love all the interviews! Thank you so much for all of your great work Rob!
Rob: What range do you think Hendon Hooker will land. The Seahawks have the 37th pick this year. If a QB is not taking in the first round. Do you think Hooker will still be available at 37. I was looking at Hooker’s numbers. Very impressive. Over the last two years over 6000 yards, 59 TDs and only 5 picks. Those numbers are deserving of high marks.
There’s no way Hooker should be going as high as #37
He should be a third rounder at best for me
Those numbers are indicative of an offense that is wide open
If Hooker goes that high the Seahawks will be thrilled. Pushes more talent down the board to them.
Battle running drills looks nice and tight (in a good way)
Jamie Robinson too
Kinda crazy the contrast between the big guys running yesterday and then these smaller guys today. Very surprised how slow the 40s have been. That could be bad for our options to grab a DL/DE later as DBs/S are pushed down boards.
How did J.L. Skinner look? great size wonderful kid.
Not testing, hurt himself last week
Tell how long does a pec year takes to heal?
Can be a good while
Up to nine months depending on severity.
Would that cause any slide, he would be a great 4th round, there is some consensus he will move to corner, loves to hit ,which makes him a bit of a unicorn in a good way. In fact Boise St. was only school that agreed to keep him at safety, which is sole reason he went there.
I always assume one round for injury.
In the fourth? I’d love that. I didn’t know that about Boise st and him playing safety.
On a complete side note he has bowling average pushing of 190, his interviews are priceless.
He tore a pectoral muscle a bit ago, so I doubt he did anything but interview.
Probably meaningless because of the source… but for discussion:
https://walterfootball.com/nflhotpress/article/Seahawks-Love-Bryce-Young
Same source said a year ago they liked Matt Corral
Nothing against Bryce but man I don’t want a small QB
Agreed. Bryce is the one QB of the top 4 that scares me. I am sure he is talented, but he just doesn’t look built to survive the NFL for long.
I think it will be important to see just how small he is. Listed at 5’10 and 194lb, he could be 5’8″ and 178lbs or he might be bigger. If he is pushing 6′ and 200lb then maybe he goes first. Hand size is important too. We will know more after Saturday.
No matter his size, he could still be good and maybe last 4-5 years. That fits in with the build the team around a rookie QB contract and then move on approach. Maybe you do not need a bridge QB with Bryce (or Levis) and can spend the Geno money on a veteran center (a short one!) and make sure you do something to improve at right guard, WR# and even tight end.
I am really agreeing with Rob on being comfortable with all four of the top QBs and not being picky on which one-as long as the Seahawks get one.
*WR#3
Everyone is saying if Bryce Young is 6’3” 220 pounds he would be a sure fire #1 generational pick. Like Andrew Luck.
I feel like the rules to protect qb will be beneficial to Young. The roughing the passer calls this year. Im guessing with how Tua got hurt in Buffalo, they might even call more unnecessary roughness on pushing a qb just after he throws.
Tom Brady rarely gets hit hard. Bryce will be smart enough to learn that skill.
Tyler Lockett survives with a much harder job.
Tyler goes down early to avoid contact, can a QB do that consistently? Doubtful.
The Seahawks leak things when it comes to contract negotiations, not draft stuff. I think JS made it a point to Wyman and Bob yesterday that they keep things in house. This screams misdirection and hoping that Bryce Young goes before 5 so their QB of choice slips through the cracks.
Sydney Brown looks seahawky
That’s what I’ve been seeing. I think he’s way more natural in coverage than Skinner. He sat in the hip pocket of a lot of receivers at the Senior Bowl. I’m a big fan. He reminds me a little bit of Talanoa Hufanga of the 49ers. The ability to cover, run, and be versatile.
Try and catch Mariucci with Richardson on Total Access Live.
Very impressive young man.