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We’re up and running with the quarterback forty yard dashes…
These are the unofficial times.
Blake Bortles (UCF) — 4.81 & 4.88
Tajh Boyd (Clemson) — 4.75 & 4.84
Teddy Bridgewater — DNP
Derek Carr (Fresno State) — 4.68 & 4.65
David Fales (SJSU) — 4.94 & 5.03
Jimmy Garoppolo (Eastern Illinois) — 4.93 & 4.95
Jordan Lynch (Northern Illinois) — 4.72 & 4.72
Johnny Manziel (Texas A&M) — 4.63 & 4.56
Jeff Mathews (Cornell) — 5.22 & 5.22
A.J. McCarron (Alabama) — 4.94 & 4.91
Here’s some mid-combine reading from Bob MGinn at the Journal Sentinel. He’s well sourced.
He looks at 32 players in this class, with a scouts take on each.
Demarcus Lawrence is included, the guy we had going to Seattle in our pre-combine mock draft.
Here’s McGinn’s report:
“He can fit anywhere,” one scout said. “He’s athletic enough to play outside linebacker. He’s long enough to play an edge 4-3 rusher like Seattle uses. Worker. Good athlete. Second round.” Was suspended three times for team violations.
Note the Seahawks reference. This is a guy we have to look at for pick #32.
There’s a scathing review of Austin Seferian-Jenkins too…
He’s going to be close to Gronkowski talent-wise,” one scout said. “Now he’s lazy and a (expletive). It’s all kinds of just minor stuff. There’s always something wrong with him.” Had 146 receptions in three seasons. Played some basketball for Huskies. “I think he’s a pretender,” another scout said. “Not really a football player. The hype is big, but he don’t want to block and he is kind of half-(expletive) in everything he does. Inconsistent and unreliable.”
Back to the quarterback forty’s — Johnny Manziel had the fastest unofficial time (4.56).
In comparison, Russell Wilson had an official 4.55.
WIDE RECEIVER FORTY YARD DASH — GROUP 1
Again, these are all unofficial.
Jared Abbrederis (Wisconsin) — 4.50 & 4.44
Davante Adams (Fresno State) — 4.50 & 4.54
Odell Beckham Jr (LSU) — 4.40 & 4.31
Kelvin Benjamin (Florida State) — 4.59 & 4.53
Chris Boyd (Vanderbilt) — 4.60 & DNP
Corey Brown (Ohio State) — 4.37 & 4.44
John Brown (Pitt State) — 4.30 & 4.35
Martavis Bryant (Clemson) — 4.34 & 4.35
Isaiah Burse (Fresno State) — 4.56 & 4.50
Michael Campanaro (Wake Forest) — 4.46 & 4.44
Brandon Coleman (Rutgers) — 4.50 & 4.53
Brandin Cooks (Oregon State) — 4.30 & 4.30
Mike Evans (Texas A&M) — 4.50 & 4.47
Damian Copeland (Louisville) — 4.43 & 4.40
Quincy Enuwa (Nebraska) — 4.40 & DNF (hamstring)
Bruce Ellington (South Carolina) — 4.37 & 4.31
Shaq Evans (UCLA) — 4.50 & 4.50
Bennie Fowler (Michigan State) — 4.50 & 4.48
Jeremy Gallon (Michigan) — 4.45 & 4.42
RECEIVER GROUP 1 NOTES
Kelvin Benjamin looked superb. He carries 240lbs perfectly. This is prototype, #1 receiver size.
His first time of 4.59 was 0.09 slower than Davante Adams. He’s over 4 inches taller and 28lbs heavier.
His second time — a 4.53 — topped Adams’ 4.54. This is why Seattle will be drooling over Benjamin — and why I don’t think Adams is a likely option at #32.
Brandon Coleman looked chiseled and ran a 4.50. That’s good enough for me at 6-6 and 225lbs to say “job done”.
4.50 unofficial for Brandon Coleman is very good. Know the #Seahawks have shown some interest. Plenty of upside there for Coleman.
— Shane P. Hallam (@ShanePHallam) February 23, 2014
Been saying this for a while. Don’t sleep on Coleman to Seattle at #32…
Odell Beckham’s second unofficial run was a 4.31. Wow.
The Bob McGinn piece earlier referred to Martavis Bryant being a possible #1 pick. Hmmm. He ran a 4.34 at 6-3/4 and 211lbs.
Mike Evans’ 4.47 was excellent. That should be enough to put him in the top 10-15. It might not be enough to put him ahead of Sammy Watkins as the #1 guy.
From Group 1 — it wouldn’t be a total shock if Benjamin, Evans, Beckham Jr, Cooks and Coleman all went in the first round.
What a year for receivers.
ON FIELD DRILLS — WR G1/QB
The receivers are running downfield, the quarterbacks get a chance to show off some arm strength.
Blake Bortles is throwing. Teddy Bridgewater doesn’t appear to be doing anything today.
A.J. McCarron throws despite suggesting he wouldn’t. His first attempt downfield was a shocker, way off target. His second attempt was much improved.
Brandon Coleman looked as smooth as caramel on his route. Great strides, caught the football. He’s killing this so far.
Mike Evans and Kelvin Benjamin didn’t look quite as comfortable. Evans made a nice adjustment to a loose throw from Bortles.
Now it’s time for the gauntlet.
Jared Abbrederis had a drop. Davante Adams looked sharp. Odell Beckham Jr is one of the most natural catchers you’ll ever see.
Kelvin Benjamin avoided drops (shock horror) and looked pretty good after a false start.
Got to say, Martavis Bryant has looked extremely good so far. He caught the ball away from his body. Made a difficult grab on one wayward pass.
Brandon Coleman had zero drops and also caught the ball away from his body. He hasn’t put a foot wrong so far.
Mike Evans showed strong hands, just looked like a natural out there.
Man this is a receiver class and a half. And we’ve still got Sammy Watkins and co to come later.
The record number of receivers taken in the first round is seven.
That is going to be smashed this year.
Now the receivers are running in-routes. Benjamin made a lovely high grab on a pass thrown behind him.
Bryant just laid out to get an errant pass, but couldn’t bring it in.
Another nice job by Coleman and Evans. Smooth route, nice cut. Both caught their passes.
Evans looked crisper on the curl route than Benjamin. Coleman looked a little safe on his, focusing too much on catching the ball and hesitating a little.
A.J. McCarron after a tough start looked good throwing the ball. Bortles really warmed up on the deep out throws.
Sitting at workout & impressed as hell by timing Blake Bortles is showing with strange receivers…has a lot of teams in attendance buzzing.
— Tony Pauline (@TonyPauline) February 23, 2014
Coleman rounded off his deep route. Benjamin looked really good — and Beckham Jr was even better. Evans got the timing on his route all wrong and didn’t catch the football. It was messy.
I’m crossing over to Camera 2 now to watch the forty yard dashes for the second group of QB’s and WR’s.
QB FORTY’S — GROUP 2
Stephen Morris (Miami) — 4.62 & 4.57
Aaron Murray (Georgia) — DNP
Bryn Renner (North Carolina) — 4.85 & 4.88
Tom Savage (Pittsburgh) — 5.00 & 4.85
Connor Shaw (South Carolina) — 4.58 & 4.55
Logan Thomas (Virginia Tech) — 4.60 & 4.57
Dustin Vaughan (WTAMU) — 4.91 & 4.94
Keith Wenning (Ball State) — 4.88 & 4.85
An unofficial 4.57 is superb for Logan Thomas. He struggled the last two years at Virginia Tech, but he’s got a ton of potential as a longer term project.
And don’t rule out someone taking him much earlier than expected.
The time will increase talk he could switch to tight end.
WIDE RECEIVER FORTY YARD DASH — GROUP 2
Robert Herron (Wyoming) — 4.45 & 4.50
Cody Hoffman (BYU) — 4.54 & 4.53
Josh Huff (Oregon) — 4.45 & 4.47
Allen Hurns (Miami) — 4.53 & 4.55
Jeff Janis (Saginaw Valley State) — 4.30 & 4.44
T.J. Jones (Notre Dame) — 4.40 & 4.50
Jarvis Landry (LSU) — 4.65 & DNP
Cody Latimer (Indiana) — DNP
Marqise Lee (USC) — 4.50 & 4.44
Marcus Lucas (Missouri) — 4.52
Jordan Matthews (Vanderbilt) — 4.40 & 4.44
Donte Moncrief (Ole Miss) — 4.40 & 4.35
Kevin Norwood (Alabama) — 4.39 & 4.48
Tevin Reese (Baylor) — 4.40
Paul Richardson (Colorado) — 4.35
Allen Robinson (Penn State) — 4.60 & 4.56
Jalen Saunders (Oklahoma) — 4.42 & 4.41
Willie Snead (Ball State) — 4.60
Devin Street (Pittsburgh) — 4.53 & 4.47
L’Damian Washington (Missouri) — 4.43 & 4.43
Sammy Watkins (Clemson) — 4.34 & 4.37
Jeff Janis out of Saginaw State Valley — wow. An unofficial 4.30 and a fairly big guy. That’s impressive.
Jarvis Landry slower than expected — his first run is an unofficial 4.65. He didn’t run a second attempt, complaining of a ‘right hamstring injury’.
Marqise Lee’s first run of 4.50 is the same as Brandon Coleman’s at 6-6 and 225lbs.
Pete Carroll mouthed "wow" like he was disappointed after Marquise Lee's unofficial 4.50
— Goodberry (@JoeGoodberry) February 23, 2014
Lee’s second attempt was a 4.44.
Jordan Matthews’ 4.40 is very impressive. That’s much better than I expected.
Donte Moncrief also managed a 4.40. Again — that’s impressive. Can we afford to say again how good this wide receiver class is?
Another shock — Kevin Norwood with a 4.39? We’ve got to wait for the official times, but man.
Allen Robinson got a 4.60. Not a shock — he was never expected to run a good time. He’s shifty in the open field, but not an explosive athlete.
Most ill-advised comment of the combine so far? That award goes to Oklahoma State quarterback Justin Gilbert…
Oklahoma State CB Justin Gilbert was asked what he thinks about Aqib Talib: "I don't know who that is. I don't watch a lot of football."
— Jeff Howe (@jeffphowe) February 23, 2014
The NFL Network/NFL.com killed us again during these runs, going away from any live action to show talking heads.
Some of the second unofficial runs won’t be listed here. But at least we got to hear Charles Davis talk about Sammy Watkins (unbelievable).
ON FIELD DRILLS — WR G2/QB
Jarvis Landry is back on the field despite not running a second forty yard dash. He is struggling with the hamstring though.
Despite their good runs, Jordan Matthews and Donte Moncrief just don’t look as big as the earlier guys (Evans, Coleman, Benjamin). Both very athletic, but are they what Seattle is looking for.
The first drill is a short out route.
L’Damian Washington ran a sloppy route, followed by Sammy Watkins dropping his catch.
Matthews and Marqise Lee looking smooth on the deep routes. Paul Richardson high pointed the ball nicely.
Stephen Morris floated his passes a little too much. He’s athletic, but doesn’t have a great arm.
Connor Shaw was putting a little too much juice on his throws, while Logan Thomas completely under-threw his guy.
Allen Hurns had a hot-potato drop on his deep throw. L’Damian Washington had two attempts — laying out and failing to get one, and spilling the other.
Sammy Watkins had one of the best gauntlet runs. Very soft hands, flawless movement.
Jordan Matthews equally looked good. Donte Moncrief made hard work of his, dropping one ball and looking a little awkward.
Allen Robinson was a little tight but didn’t have any drops.
I liked Marqise Lee’s gauntlet runs. Like Watkins — very smooth, very natural.
Seattle offensive coordinator Darrell Bevell led some of the wide receiver and quarterback drills:
Defensive back measurements
These are starting to filter through. You can see them here via Walter Football.
Bashaud Breeland is 5-11 and 197lbs.
Official forty times
These are starting to filter in.
Logan Thomas — 4.61
Stephen Morris — 4.63
Connor Shaw — 4.66
Johnny Manziel — 4.68
Blake Bortles — 4.93
Derek Carr — 4.69
A.J. McCarron — 4.94
Sammy Watkins — 4.43
Allen Robinson — 4.60
Jordan Matthews — 4.46
Donte Moncrief — 4.40
Brandin Cooks — 4.33
John Brown — 4.34
Marqise Lee — 4.52
Jeff Janis — 4.42
Jarvis Landry — 4.77
Kelvin Benjamin — 4.61
Odell Beckham Jr — 4.43
Martavis Bryant — 4.42
Mike Evans — 4.53
Paul Richardson — 4.40
Jared Abbrederis — 4.50
Davante Adams — 4.56
Brandon Coleman — 4.56
I’ll do a review piece later going into some of the big stories from today. But Marqise Lee running a 4.52 at his size is very disappointing.
More WR verticals: Mike Evans 37" Cooks 36" Matthews 35.5" Watkins 34" Saunders 34" Benjamin 32.5" Coleman 32.5"
— Josh Norris (@JoshNorris) February 23, 2014
Mike Evans- 6'4 3/4, 231, 35 1/8 inch arms, 37 inch vertical jump. That is an insane catch radius!!
— Daniel Jeremiah (@MoveTheSticks) February 23, 2014
RUNNING BACK FORTY YARD DASH
Antonio Andrews (Western Kentuck) — 4.76 & 4.69
Dri Archer (Kent State) — 4.29 & 4.28
George Atkinson (Notre Dame) — 4.41 & 4.39
Kapri Bibbs (Colorado State) — 4.60 & 4.72
Alfred Blue (LSU) — 4.63 & 4.78
Ka’Deem Carey (Arizona) — 4.65 & 4.62
Isaiah Crowell (Alabama State) — 4.50 & 4.50
David Fluellen (Toledo) — 4.69 4.66
Devonta Freeman (Florida State) — 4.50 & 4.53
Tyler Gaffney (Stanford) — 4.43 & 4.48
Jeremy Hill (LSU) — 4.63 & 4.63
Carlos Hyde (Ohio State) — 4.62 & DNP
Storm Johnson (UCF) — 4.50 & 4.50
Henry Josey (Missouri) — 4.40 & 4.40
Tre Mason (Auburn) — 4.44 & 4.50
Jerick McKinnon (Georgia Southern) — 4.38 & 4.35
LaDarius Perkins (Miss State) — 4.40
Silas Redd (USC) — 4.68
Bishop Sankey (Washington) — 4.47
Lache Seastrunk (Baylor) — 4.45
Charles Sims (West Virginia) — 4.48 & 4.47
De’Anthony Thomas (Oregon) — 4.34 & 4.40
James White (Wisconsin) — 4.52
James Wilder (Florida State) — 4.78 & 4.78
Andrew Williams (Boston College) — 4.54 & 4.53
Archer just ran a 4.29, then a 4.28, had a 38" vertical, and put up 20 reps of 225 at 173 pounds. Speed/explosion matches tape.
— Ian Kenyon (@IanKenyonNFL) February 23, 2014
To put Archer’s 20 reps into perspective, earlier today Jadeveon Clowney managed 21 reps.
Once again the feed has jumped away from the action. It’s pretty obvious the NFL wants you to watch the NFL Network (or in my case, spend money to watch it).
NFL.com’s coverage this year has constantly jumped away at the worst times. Frustrating.
Once again the forty’s above will be incomplete as a consequence. I’ll keep an eye on the running back drills but otherwise I’m ready to call it a wrap for this piece.
I’ll have a review of the day on the blog shortly, discussing some of the key talking points.