Live NFL Draft 2016 — Rounds 4-7 open thread

April 30th, 2016 | Written by Rob Staton

It’s the final day of the draft and here is the final open thread. I will post a reaction piece later today reviewing Seattle’s 2016 draft class. Kenny and I will also be recording a podcast on Monday.

Here are their remaining picks:

R5 (#171)
R6 (#215)
R7 (#225)
R7 (#247)

In the meantime, here are some of the players still on the board that we have discussed in the build up to the draft:

Connor McGovern (OL)
Joe Haeg (OL)
Joe Dahl (OL)
Andrew Billings (DT)
Willie Henry (DT)
Hassan Ridgeway (DT)
Charles Tapper (DE)
Eric Murray (CB)
Joshua Perry (LB)
Jeremy Cash (S)
Miles Killebrew (S)
Ronald Blair III (DT)
Deiondre Hall (CB)
Dak Prescott (QB)
Charone Peake (WR)
Ricardo Louis (WR)
Moritz Boehringer (WR)
Jonathan Williams (RB)
Keith Marshall (RB)
Tyler Ervin (RB)
Kevon Seymour (CB)
Travis Feeney (LB)
B.J. Goodson (LB)
Joel Heath (DT)
Kenny Lawler (WR)
Jordan Payton (WR)
Daniel Braverman (WR)
Devon Cajuste (WR)
Blake Countess (CB)
Hal Vaitai (OL)
Alex Redmond (OL)
Marcus Henry (OL)
Torian White (OL)
Justin Murray (OL)
Lene Maiava (OL)
Evan Boehm (OL)
Liam Nadler (QB)
Keenan Reynolds (QB/RB/WR)
D.J. Foster (RB/WR)
Zac Brooks (RB)
Devon Johnson (RB)
Darius Jackson (RB)
Paul McRoberts (WR)
Marquez North (WR)
Jay Lee (WR)
Jaydon Mickens (WR)
Dez Stewart (WR)
Brandon Swindall (WR)
Davonte Allen (WR)
Hakeem Valles (TE)
Terenn Houk (TE)
George Fant (TE)
Alex Balducci (DT)
D.J. Reader (DT)
Justin Zimmer (DT)
David Onyemata (DT)
Trent Corney (DE)
Alex McCallister (LB)
Christian French (LB)
DeAndre Elliott (CB)
Rashard Robinson (CB)
Brandon Williams (CB)
William Parks (S)
Andrew Adams (S)
Taj Letman (S)
D.J. Hunter (S)

1,171 Responses to “Live NFL Draft 2016 — Rounds 4-7 open thread”

  1. H M Abdou says:

    I think the only glaring needs left are 3-tech, DL/OL convert, DB (maybe), and backup QB (maybe, if no TJack).

    I think the team is probably set at WR/TE, so that eliminates Cajuste.

    No need for McGovern/Dahl/Haeg with the OL picks of Ifedi and Odhi.

    All set at RB.

    • Mexican Hawk says:

      A key thing to look at is our prospective 2017 Free Agents. Biggest hole I saw was at TE. If we didnt draft one now, it would have become a key hole for next year. Needed to be filled by a cheap free agent or a 2017 rookie. Drafting Vannett gives u time to develop before Luke leaves.

      With money spent on Graham, it would b hard to keep Luke. Here’s to hoping he has a great season and somebody gives him a good contract to get a comp pick back.

      With this in mind CB is a bit of a 2017 need. We have depth for this year, but Simon a bit of an unknown and due to become a free agent. Fullback also a good spot to find a good player on a cheap rookie contract (needs to play ST).

      • H M Abdou says:

        I agree totally with your comment, and I have been one of the most vocal critics of Tharold Simon on this board. The dude just can’t play CB, IMHO. He’s too tall, and what’s worse, he plays even taller than he is. Plays “high-waisted”. Doesn’t change directions well.

        I for one would advocate relaxing the height/length standards and get CBs like Jason Verrett, whom I desperately wanted the Hawks to draft a couple of years ago.

        I agree about Luke Willson, he’ll probably get a nice contract somewhere, if and when that happens, I’ll wish him the best. Drafting Vannett was a very good move.

        • Curt says:

          I’ve only liked CB’s that are ball hawks. Always trying to get the ball rather than being close enough to tackle them AFTER they make the catch. Like the height with our corners because of the tall WR’s out there. Can’t just let the WR high point the ball but being able to contest every throw.
          Loved Maxwell’s play in SB 48 where he actively tried stripping the guy after the catch (Didn’t do much after that.). Would Like to see more of this from our DB’s.

        • Coug1990 says:

          I do not understand your thinking. The Seahawks have been the most successful team the last few years. They have lead the NFL in scoring defense four years in a row. And yet, you want the Seahawks to change to satisfy what your team building thoughts?

          • H M Abdou says:

            Hahahahaha!, Basically, yup! That’s exactly what I want, for them to tailor their drafting and team-building to suit what appeals to me! LOL!

            But isn’t that what every fan wants, to a certain degree?

            Not every Hawk fan agrees 100% with every personnel move they make, even taking into account how successful they’ve been.

      • lil'stink says:

        I’m surprised that so many people think Willson is automatically going to be gone in 2017 after the Vannett pick. If Graham isn’t able to fully recover from his knee injury I would think the team would either ask him to restructure his deal or just cut him after next season.

        I really like the potential of 2 TE sets with Willson and Vannett.

    • bigDhawk says:

      I’d still take Cajuste and McGovern. We do still need some more picks on defense, though – 1D, 4O so far.

  2. Mexican Hawk says:

    Still good talent on board. This is shaping up like a key draft. Some immediate starting talent (Reed/Ifedi) and key role players (blocking TE and third down back). Not to mention Prosise special teams qualitied should be great there. Rees a bit of a reach, but if he was target and being unable to trade comp 5th and 6th (unless u reach into 2017 pick pot) good value judgement.

    Just like we got ourselves a 3rd TE to fill the blocking role we have been missing since Miller left would like to target backup QB, safety, a 5th WR who can block and play ST. Just let board fall to u.

    W/comp picks being tradeable next year not a bad deal to move your native 2017 picks if team sees need.

    Let’s wrap this up. Pretty cool to see many of these picks had an affinity for Hawks.

    Thanks again Rob, enjoy.

    • H M Abdou says:

      Yup, I actually was luke warm on the last 3 picks (but LOVED the Jarran Reed STEAL). I think Prosise, Vannett, and Odhi fill needs and offer unique skill sets.

    • Curt says:

      Do you see them trying to get back up into the 4th early 5th to get another target?
      Because they said 200 draftable guys, be interesting to see if they have some other targets in mind, right?

      • H M Abdou says:

        I think before yesterday, they probably planned to do what they usually do a lot, which is to trade down and stockpile picks. But I think when they saw Jarran Reed still on the board, they correctly traded did what they needed to do, trading the 4th-rounder, to go up from 56 to 49 and steal Reed.

        • Coug1990 says:

          I agree. They had him graded as a first round pick. I do not think it was a low first round grade either, I think it was a mid first round grade. Giving up a fourth to get a player they rated that highly is like you said, a steal.

          I think he will be better than the currently 31 year old Mebane this season.

      • Mexican Hawk says:

        The beauty is they have their own board which sometimes lets quality players fall to them.

        Though for the first time I think we are going to get great grades by the pundits. Haha ? Not that we want that. Never have and dont care.

        If they see a 3rd rd value being available early 5th, could definitely see it.

        Important thing is they don’t panic.

        • Curt says:

          Would rather get a bad grade from the experts (Always wrong about us) BUT probably won’t because they are learning their lessons from the past and will give us a good grade regardless ?

  3. Curt says:

    Would love to hear the opinion from Rob or other posters who follow the Seahawk draft more than I do.
    Loved the trade up in round 2 to get the stud DT Reed but looks like the draft according to Seahawk actions is in 2 halves. Must haves round 1-3 (help now) and rounds 4-7 develop hit or miss projects. By trading their 4th round pick, they’re saying no more must haves unless they trade their only tradable picks in round 7 (225,247).
    Do they stand pat? Be a while for their next pick. Or do they something up their sleeve and package the 2 7th rounders to move up for someone they think is worth the picks?
    The 3 picks in the 3rd round didn’t impress me (only because I don’t know the names) RB Notre Dame, TE Ohio St and the OG from Bosie St. Really thought they would pull the trigger for Dahl with that last pick in 3rd round.
    Thoughts?

    • H M Abdou says:

      Initially I was kinda negative about Prosise, Vannett, and Odhi, but I’ve warmed up to those picks a little bit. Prosise is like a swiss army knife, Vannett is basically a Zach Miller clone, and Odhi plays better than he tested.

      I still think 3-tech is a glaring need, hopefully some good ones are available by the time the Hawks pick again!

      • Curt says:

        Agree. One thing for sure, the Seahawks sure make the draft fun trying to figure out their thought process ?

      • bigDhawk says:

        Vannett could be a faster Zach. He is a legit receiving TE but – wasn’t used much in OSU’s loaded offense – with the physicality to be the blocking TE we haven’t had since Zach. I wanted this guy and I’m pumped we got him.

  4. Forty20 says:

    Even without a 4th round pick we might still be able to make out like bandits with the talent that is sitting on the board. Feeling pretty good about this draft when all is said and done.

    Not sure if it was posted in the monster Day 2 thread but here is a nice sit down with Jarran Reed (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etKDMRK2C4w&app=desktop). Comes across as quietly confident and quite cerebral as he quickly breaks down the work of Michael Brockers. He does mention that he was a filthy Steelers fan as a kid but I am willing to overlook it!

    Really keen to see if PC and company can tap into latent pass rushing ability in Reed.

    • H M Abdou says:

      Thanks for the video! Love the quiet fire this guy has. And you’re right, I think there’s some untapped pass rushing potential there with him, especially the possibility of developing a good bull rush, considering all that strength he has.

      • Mexican Hawk says:

        The best thing I’ve read about Reed was that he was the Alpha Dog of that Bama D. That’s quite a compliment. Ragland mentioned it, as did our area scout.

        We will forever be grateful to Mebane. This guy looks like he has some Chancellor in him.

    • Curt says:

      Also loved his comments at the draft. Dude is coming here with an attitude.?

    • Coug1990 says:

      Yes, thanks for the video. The more that I watch him on and off the field, the more I believe this pick is absolute highway robbery. I liked the last video showing Brockers against the Seahawks. I think Reed has a lot of uptapped pass rushing ability. The Seahawk scout in the press conference yesterday thought so after watching the senior bowl.

  5. 12thManderson says:

    Man that Vannett pick has QUICKLY became my favorite on the year thus far (Reed a close 2nd). I’ve been just ITCHING for a blocking TE since Miller’s exit and personally wanted Vannett’s teammate Heuerman, last draft. Strong, strong hands just classically underused due to OSU and his blocking helps so much in Ifedi’s development, Gilliam’s transition, and also Webb if he wins a starter role. It also brings back those clutch little TE Rub off blocks and escape to the flats and zones for Russ.

    I might be in a minority, I’m not sure but in my heart I’ve wanted Jimmy on the PUP No Matter What, to start the year(if we even have a choice). No rushing the process and honestly, I feel we started slow offensively last year because we were trying to integrate from day 1, a PLAYMAKER with no chemistry or playground scheme knowledge, all the while the coaches were trying to figure his best fits on the field. We weren’t focused on our base offense chemistry, our back to back Super Bowls base offense. If we can pick up where we left off and get our base offense’s chemistry down. THEN we slowly start integrating Jimmy’s 6’6″ mismatch distraction onto the field, by playoffs all the doors and windows should be opened for a dangerous run.

    My guys to watch today
    Will Parks
    Rashard Robinson
    Miles Killebrew
    Alex McAllister
    Aziz Shittu
    Jeremy Cash

    ALSO my personal names Petes clues gave me yesterday
    McGovern
    Haeg
    Dahl
    Braverman
    Jay Lee
    Tyrone Holmes
    And George Fant…… we shall see for Some

    • Curt says:

      Reed so far is my Favorite because of attitude. You can tell this guy is coming in to dominate. JS & PC have to be on cloud 9.
      Tom Cable has talent to work with now so no excuses for not protecting Wilson.

      • Sea Mode says:

        Wilson has to be absolutely ecstatic, too. A huge upgrade to the OL and blocking TE to protect him, plus a unique weapon that he has never had before in a 3rd down back, and who knows what is still cooking with the last 4 picks plus UDFA!

  6. Guy says:

    My hopes for day 3:
    5 DE Matt Judon, Great Valley St
    6 LEO/SLB Christian French, Oregon
    7 FB Devon Johnson Marshall
    7 SCB Blake Countess, Auburn

    Round 8
    LB/S DJ Hunter Marshall
    LS Jimmy Landes, Baylor
    OT/OG Lene Maiava Arizona
    S Will Parks Arizona

  7. Darth12er says:

    Here are kinda some of my thoughts about yesterday. When they traded up in the second, I was hoping it was for Reed. An obvious need, and like others have mentioned, I really think a few years in he can develop as an interior pass rusher. Loved that move. Was surprised at the next 3 picks a little. Rob talked about Prosise a little, he was on my list. Like the pick too. His potential is sky high. He definitely needs to work on his RB game, but IMO he might be the best pass catching RB in the draft. ST demon from what I hear too. Vannett was an unknown for me, but he’s my favorite pick. Miller was so valuable to them, I’m surprised they didn’t try to replace him a lot sooner. He can line up as FB, yes? He might eliminate that roster spot altogether, so versatile. I just think this move is huge, they’ve really missed that 6th o-lineman (who can actually block). I don’t know what to think about the BSU player, haha. In PCJS we trust.

    I fully expect the Hawks to trade draft capitol from next years draft to gain an extra pick this year. I also would be surprised if BB39 cracked the 53 man roster.

    • Darth12er says:

      Also, maybe Jason LaCaforna was referring to Feeney when he was talking about a player slipping because of medical issues. I’m hoping he’s a selection today.

    • Coug1990 says:

      During the press conference last night, Schneider said they have been looking for an inline TE for years. But, because of all the spread offenses, there just are not many anymore.

      Vannett was the first inline TE that they have liked and they believe he will be a much better pro than he was as a college player.

  8. Steve Nelsen says:

    The only pick I am still trying to understand from yesterday is Odhiambo. His athletic measurables were affected by his recovery from his ankle injuries. So we don’t have any reliable info about his athleticism. He is a right guard and I thought left guard was a bigger need. His injury history seems inconsistent with the comments about reliability that we heard during the Okung free agency.

    The pick seemed to come a round or two early. Maybe trading the 4th prompted them to move up but there was no apparent “cliff” or dropoff in talent. In fact, a number of other very good O-line prospects seem to be available.

    I will be interested to hear as more info about this pick becomes public.

    • H M Abdou says:

      I thought the Odhi pick felt rushed also.

      • Sea Mode says:

        I thought the same initially, but then I listened to the press conference and heard what a special player and person they see Odhiambo as. Plus we don’t fall back into the “getting cute” argument about risking by waiting to fix the OL and hoping our guys will be available later.

        Especially since we don’t have a pick for basically two whole rounds, I am SO relieved and pumped we are heading into day 3 with all our real needs taken care of and can just enjoy picking some great guys at whatever positions we find them.

        • Dawgma says:

          IMO Odhiambo is the DEFINITION of getting cute – they’re taking a guy with a huge injusry history and unverifiable athletic profile (…due to his injury history) in the vague hope that he *might* heal up and their medical staff can keep him upright in which case his upside is…no better than players they could have just picked without the injury history and risk like Dahl or McGovern who have known and verified athletic tools and solid histories in major conferences.

          I’m suppose I shouldn’t be complaining too much, because their OL evaluation has been terrible and mostly he seems completely out of left field from their usual methods. Maybe that means he’ll actually be able to pass block better than a tackling dummy…

      • John_s says:

        This screams a Britt situation again. Take a guy 2-3 rounds early because he won’t be there at your next pick. I hate it. You don’t reach for guys especially ones with a history of injuries. It’s a throwaway pick. Good thing we had 3 3rds.

        • Del tre says:

          This doesn’t scream Justin Britt at all… Britt was a reach yes but odhiambo isnt a panic move he is just who they wanted McGovern and dall are both still on the board they know something we don’t

        • chet380 says:

          If a reach means taking a 5th, 6th, 7th Rd guy in the 3rd, then this was a reach.

          Injury-prone, miserable measurables — WHY??

        • James says:

          Britt was a reach because of a desperate need for an OT, combined with a lack of available talent. Odhiambo is entirely different. They chose him over McGovern, Dahl, Haeg, because he grades higher for the Seahawks. This is a choice, not a reach. We can fall into putting too much on the numbers (no surprise given the sparq/tef tendencies for the Seahawks), but this guy did not test full speed due to the injury, and a quick eyeball test shows a guy significantly stronger and quicker than McGovern, Dahl, Haeg…

    • Coug1990 says:

      I am sure that not having a fourth rounder likely affected where they drafted Odhiambo. One great thing for me to hear about him is that he is supposed to be a good pass blocker. It is nice that they drafted a player that will be able to block for RW and not just run block.

    • Alaskan Hawk says:

      Agreed with the thinking, he was picked way higher than his grade. Why take an injury prone tackle for guard when we had McGovern, a mauling guard and beast of a player with a higher grade right there. I have not always liked the teams line picks in the upper rounds, I’m always surprised by the overreaching. Carpenter, Moffitt, and Britt had lower draft value and were picked way too high, Odhi is right there with them. McGovern is going to prove a swing and a miss!

  9. Saxon says:

    Overall depth and talent base has been moderately upgraded with this draft so far, but how impactful it will be for 2016 is questionable. There are some challenges for the coaching staff:

    Ifedi: Needs to adapt to a true pro-set offense.
    Odhiambo: Needs to recover from injuries.
    Prosise: WR convert still needs to develop as a RB with blitz pickup and reading blocks.

    Vannett and Reed are both the most pro-ready. Vannett didn’t see a ton of targets at OSU and isn’t likely to see many as a rookie either. Reed is really the only instant impact player, but he will be part of a rotation and it still takes time to develop as an NFL d-lineman.

    This draft has a lot of potential but I was hoping to find at least a couple of guys that could help us immediately compete for a Super Bowl. Not sure we achieved that, unless these players can rapidly develop.

    • H M Abdou says:

      I agree with you, but in fairness the Hawks already have a pretty good core, so most of their draft picks will be guys trying to find a specific niche role, or to provide depth.

    • Coug1990 says:

      I don’t agree. What does Pete and John always say? When they scout, they look for what a player can do, instead of looking for what a player cannot do.

      Each of these players, especially the skill players have unique skill sets. They will ease them into situations where they will be successful and contribute.

      This team was already going to challenge for the Superbowl, as it was already that good. So, you were going to improve on the margins and they really did that with this draft.

      • Saxon says:

        @coug: I’m sure they were looking for “what a player can do” when drafting Poole, Britt, Noorwood, Michael, Harper, etc. Obviously they saw some things to like about those guys and thought they would contribute. They didn’t. I’m looking at this current crop and not seeing guys that will contribute early either.

        So, while I like this draft in terms of long-term potential, my concern remains about rookies helping us this year. Not just “marginally” helping, because the Cardinals have taken a huge step forward, in my opinion, and we need to keep up . But I hope you’re right and that they bring enough to put us over the top.

    • Sea Mode says:

      I’m with Coug on this one. I think the guys they got are about as ready to help us as we could reasonably hope, and all have been on upward trajectory the past year in CFB and that will only continue as they transition to the pros.

      Cable said that of all the guys they considered, Ifedi had the shortest distance to go to be pro ready. Then PC said clearly in yesterday’s press conference that we will see all these guys play, just like we have seen with rookies in past years.

      • Saxon says:

        @ SeaMode: Pete mentioned in his pre-draft presser that he works rookies into the starting line-up gradually with spot duty and scheme specific roles in the first half of the season and then expands their playing time as the year progresses.. He mentioned Tyler Lockett as a guy who started to really develop as the year went on. But Lockett was already a superb route-runner when he entered the league and his learning curve was not that extreme. I wish I felt that way about the two lineman we drafted. Not as sanguine as Cable about Ifedi’s ability to quickly transition. Not many TAMU guys have been able to do that.

  10. Trevor says:

    I am really glad my favourite OL prospect in this draft Shon Coleman got picked yesterday. Wish it was the Hawks but still glad for Coleman to get his shot after all he has battled. I hope he stays healthy and develops into a pro bowler and gets a big fat 2nd contract.

    Since joining this amazing SDB community lead by Robs incredible work my two favourite OL prospects were Coleman and Joe Bitonio. The Browns drafted both guys. Maybe they have a lurker here on SDB 🙂

    All joking aside with Coleman, Bitonio, Erving and the incredible Joe Thomas that Cle OL has some really nice building blocks on their OL. They should have kept Mack though.

    • H M Abdou says:

      And Shon Coleman announced the Aaron Donald draft pick in 2014, so hopefully that’s a good omen for him. I agree, one thing the Brownies have done well lately is draft good OL.

  11. Josh says:

    Anyone else think Reed falling changed their whole plan? I have a feeling they were intending on standing pat and then couldn’t believe Reed was there and threw the game plan out the window. I think they will trade up with a 2017 pick since they have only 2 7ths tradable.

    • H M Abdou says:

      Agree completely about their reaction to having Reed still on the board, they panicked (correctly) and traded up to nab him before someone else could!

    • Sea Mode says:

      I think it changed their plan only in that they had to use the final 3rd rounder on Odhiambo since they no longer had a 4th rounder.

      I believe that they originally intended to draft Justin Simmons at with that pick, the guy the Broncos took right after us.

      But sacrificing Simmons (or whoever it would have been) was more than worth it to get a first-round talent like Reed!

      And I wouldn’t call it at all a panic given how far into R2 they waited before jumping up. They said in the press conference that they watched in awe that he was still falling and waited until it got to a point where the value seemed right to move up. (I take that as costing the 4th rounder and not one of the 3rd rounders).

  12. Trevor says:

    I am really excited about what the Hawks have done this draft. The picks are not glamorous but this whole off season has been about brining the bully back to C-Link. This draft goes a long way to doing that. I really like every pick.

    Ifedi- Is the perfect OT prospect physically for Cable to develop into his pro-type Road grading RT. He has all the tools and now it is up to the supposed OL guru to help him fulfill his potential. There is nothing holding back this kid except to fix his technique. He was my 3rd favourite OT prospect after Tunsil and Coleman and does not have they character issues of Tunsil or medical issues of Coleman. After seeing his reaction to being drafted I am not sure how any Hawks fan could not love this kid. Smart and high character with no injury issues. Love the pick as a true OL building block and bookend RT with Gilliam at LT.

    Jarron Reed- We got a top 20 prospect who was the undisputed leader on a National Championship defense who plays a position of need in the middle of the 2nd round. An absolute steal. He is much more than a young Mebane. He is the best run stuffer in the class, eats up double teams like Mebane but also gets solid push up the middle and plays with an incredible motor. I think he can provide the 5-6 sacks a year we missed when Clinton Macdonald left. He is a great character Alpha male guy who will thrive in our locker room. Listening to the other Alabama players talk about this guy you can tell they loved and respected this kid. Great pick that solidifies the middle of our OL with Rubin. I expect another year of no 100yd rushers for this defense.

    CJ Prosise- We all loved this guy till Rob highlighted Tyler Ervin. He is a dynamic 3rd down back already with the potential to be a great 3 down back. Ideal size and speed combo who is the perfect compliment to Rawls and Michael. I see him catching a ton of balls out of the back field year #1 giving us one of the most dynamic RB groups in the NFL. It was a position of need and Prosise / Ervin were the two best pass catching backs in the draft. We got one of them so another great pick.

    Nick Vannett – Of all the picks this guy is my favourite. Another extremely high character who will do all the dirty work to help a team win. He will not whine if he does not get touches. He will help the OL run block and pass protect like no TE we have had since Miller. This was something we missed when Miller left. He also has great hands. I remember watching him in the Senior Bowl practices seeing him make some amazing grabs. He only had 2 drops in his whole career. With Willson and Graham on the roster he won’t get a ton of targets but when he does this guy will catch the ball in traffic and be someone Wilson can count on. He is the perfect compliment to the best big TE target in the game Graham and the fastest TE in the game Willson. Our TE group is 2nd to only NE in my opinion with an elite receiver in Graham and Seam buster in Willson and great blocker in Vannett.

    Rees (I have to learn to spell 2nd name) – When we took this guy my initial reaction was oh crap we could have had McGovern, Dahl or Haeg our TEF favourites what is JS doing. Then I went and looked at the 3 games of tape I could find last night. Rees has one thing Haeg, Dahl and McGovern do not. He is one nasty SOB who plays with a far greater edge than any of those guys. he plays through the whistle on every snap and then some. He is also a lot more athletic than he tested on tape. My initial reaction of hating the pick has taken a complete 360. If this guy can stay healthy he will end up looking like a steal and will likely be a perfect Guard in our system. My only concern is injury. If 100% healthy I bet he meets the TEF requirements. I will go on record that Rees will be a starter day #1 on our OL if healthy.

    So basically we have 5 guys who I think will not only make the 52 man roster but have a signigicant impact in 2016. Even if we never had another pick I would give this draft an A+. This scares me because I am normally pretty skeptical ager Hawks drafts.

    The bully is definitely back in C Link in 2016 look out NFL.

    • H M Abdou says:

      Great post, Trevor, and I agree completely with every point you made! I guess the facial expressions of Cable during Ifedi’s pro day threw us off a bit, guess they were pleased with what they saw!

      • Sea Mode says:

        One of my favorite comments of this entire draft season has to be Rob’s blunt one-liner in response to someone arguing they wouldn’t pick Ifedi because of Cable’s facial expression at the workout. Something like:

        “I refuse to change my opinion on a player based on a supposed facial expression of Tom Cable.”

        If anyone finds it, let me know!

    • Darth12er says:

      Wow, sounds good and I like analysis on Rees. Thx

    • TJ says:

      If you listened to Schnieder and Carroll’s press conference, Obhiambo sounds like a Seahawk… They said that he was one of the strongest players in the draft, and has the athletic ability and has the mental toughness they love – he overcame the death of both of his parents over the last couple of years. I love the pick.

  13. Trevor says:

    Man I hope we get Davind Oneymata today! If we get one developmental prospect I hope it is this kid because he could be the elite interior 3 Tech pass rusher we have all wanted. Every bit the athlete of Rankins but longer.

    I know we were at his pro day and the Hawks scout seemed really impressed. My fear though is that the Ravens will nab him with one of their 4th round picks. The analysts will say the Ravens reached for this kid but he will be a steal in the 4th round IMO. My fingers are crossed he somehow makes it to the Hawks in Rd #5 but I highly doubt it unfortunately.

    • H M Abdou says:

      Ravens are a smart team, man! They do an excellent job scouting and drafting. Hawks, Ravens, Pats, Steelers, Packers, Broncos, great at talent eval/acquistion.

      Giants most of the time are pretty good in this regard also.

      • Trevor says:

        Great point I agree with all those teams and that is why they are never in rebuild mode. They just keep adding talent.

      • Sea Mode says:

        Right on about those teams, H M Abdou, and right on about hoping for a guy like Onyemata, Trevor!

        Although for sure they will pick someone else I didn’t have in mind that in hindsight I will say: “how did I not see that guy screaming Seahawk?!” (as has happened so far in this draft with the exception of Ifedi thanks to Rob)

  14. ItsAboutTheDefense says:

    JS said there were 200 players in this Draft. Our Rd 6 pick is # 215. How do you decide on a worthwhile way to use any of these further picks?

    • Sea Mode says:

      My opinion right now is that since we decided to take care of our real needs in the first two days, we can just sit back and enjoy watching them take the best player available at a position in which he might actually have a chance to make the roster. (Pete Carroll emphasized this last point in the pre-draft press conference I think it was)

    • GeoffU says:

      Mostly because you have teams like the Browns who select players that aren’t on Seattle’s 200 list, ha!

      • GeoffU says:

        Or the Bucs who trade up in the 2nd for a kicker

        • AlaskaHawk says:

          Yes that was an interesting move. At first I thought it was dumb, but they said he is the most accurate field goal kicker in college, so now I have flipped my opinion. Maybe they could have got him at a later round, but if he scores half the team points and kicks game winning field goals, then he is worth a second round.

  15. Trail Hawk says:

    A player to monitor that hasn’t been talked about much on here is Lawrence Thomas. Hope we bring him in either as a 7th or UDFA.

    Lawrence Thomas: 6’3″ – 286#s – 33 1/4 arms – 10 1/8 hands – 4.98 40y – 1.73 10y – 35″ vert
    Michael Bennett: 6’2″ – 293#s – 33 5/8 arms – 10 1/4 hands – 4.98 40y – 1.74 10y – 35 1/2″ vert

    Thomas can play inside and out. Started 12 games at nose tackle as a junior and his senior season at DE. Has a motor that wont quit and his on field energy is infectious.

    His biggest knock is his hand usage/technique and shedding blocks. Who better to mentor him than Michael Bennett?

    He also jumped a 9’5′ – 24 BP – 4.58 shuttle – 7.53 3 cone

  16. Trevor says:

    Chiefs took Kevaire Russell too who I think was also a Hawks target. They seem to go after the same guys we do quite often .

    • Sea Mode says:

      Yup. Not sure if JS really thought we would have a decent shot at KeiVarae in R3 anyway, and I do think he was a bit over-drafted although he certainly has great potential and KC didn’t have a R3 pick to take him with either. He and Peters are going to be some duo to throw against!

      I’m interested to see if they are the ones who will scoop up McGovern too.

  17. TCHawk says:

    We still need a LB who is also a good ST contributor (and Ridgeway!).

  18. Trevor says:

    My Seahawks Day #3 / UDFA Big Board

    Once you get to Day #3 I don’t give anyone round grades they are all developmental prospects. This is my list in order of how I like them for the Hawks. My favourite part of the draft

    #1 David Oneymata
    #2 Jatavius Brown
    #3 Devon Cajuste
    #4 Joe Haeg
    #5 Connor Mcgovern
    #6 Tyler Ervin
    #7 Travis Feeney
    #8 Willie Henry
    #9 Charles Tapper
    #10 Cardele Jones
    #11 Hassan Ridgeway
    #12 Andrew Billings
    #13 Josh Perry
    #14 Deiondre Hall
    #15 Ronald Blair
    #16 Miles Killebrew
    #17 Matt Judon
    #18 Dak Prescott
    #19 Rashard Robinson
    #20 Joe Dahl
    #21 Tyrone Holmes
    #22 Ricardo Louis
    #23 Pharroh Copper
    #24 Eric Striker
    #25 Charone Peake
    #26 Halapoulivaati Vaitai
    #27 Alex McAlister
    #28 Aaron Wallace
    #29 Kenny Lawler
    #30 Justin Zimmer
    #31 Christian Westerman
    #32 Eric Murray
    #33 Brandon Allen
    #34 Stephen Weatherly
    #35 Daniel Braverman
    #36 Marquis North
    #37 Kevon Seymour
    #38 Paul McRoberts
    #39 Kevin Hogan
    #40 Jack Allen
    #41 Mike Thomas (WR S Miss)
    #42 Sheldon Day
    #43 Keyris Garrett
    #44 Keenan Reynolds
    #45 Deandre Elliott
    #46 Fhan Cooper
    #47 Jeff Driskell
    #48 Jay Lee
    #49 Stephane Nembot
    #50 Caleb Bennoch

    UDFA
    -Mortiz Bohinger (The German freak WR)
    -Vernon Adams
    -Wendell Williams (the guy of 4.19 40yd dash fame)
    -Torian White (Former UCLA OT) if background checks out
    -Tyler Higbee (if legal issues get resolved)
    -Joel Schobert – Wisconsin LB from JS old stomping grounds

    • Trevor says:

      Liam Nadler (QB)
      Marcus Henry (C)
      Justin Murray (OL)
      Lene Maiava (OL)
      Trent Corney (DL)
      Jayden Mickens (WR)

      These guys should also be in the UDFA list

    • Sea Mode says:

      Cool list, but there are only 50 on the list and there are 74 picks before our next one. I know a lot of these guys are more tailored to Seahawks interest, but just wondering out loud how many of these cool project guys will still be there for us. Probably less than we hope but more than we think.

      As JS always says to other GMs when he wishes them ‘luck’: “pick a pawn!”

    • D-OZ says:

      I like Schobert a lot. Turnover machine. It’s all about the ball boss.

  19. Trail Hawk says:

    Is it possible to get Darius Jackson as an UDFA? We’re a run first team with an injured #1. I have all the expectations of Rawls being a beast again, but…. We need to bring in another back. I also like Tra Carson, hes an instant contributor on special teams.. Maybe even Navy’s QB turned RB Keenan Reynolds. He could be a weapon and that back-up QB we need. A scat-back that can throw the ball.

    • Sea Mode says:

      I would love some more competition, especially with CMike for the #2 spot since he really needs to be pushed. The cool thing is that, even though we are bringing him in right away as a 3rd down back, Prosise has the size to compete for early down snaps as well. It might not happen in year one, but I see why PC/JS are so excited about what he brings to the table immediately and down the road.

      Keith Marshall and Darius Jackson I think are interesting options. But there is another guy they worked out who sounds like a typical Seahawks pick: Devon Johnson, RB/FB, Marshall.

      From Lance Zierlein, NFL.com:
      “It’s not tough to see why “Rockhead” earned that moniker — no one wants to get in the way of this 6-1, 243-pound freight train when he’s healthy.”

      He would not only save one roster spot serving as FB and short yardage/goal line/backup RB, but also has great special teams value. Read this scouting report and tell me he doesn’t sound like a Seahawk: http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/devon-johnson?id=2555222

  20. H M Abdou says:

    Here we go, day 3!

  21. Kenny Sloth says:

    Schobert to cleveland

  22. Kenny Sloth says:

    Anybody up on the clues?

  23. Kenny Sloth says:

    Haha raiders traded upp forCar’s backup

    • bigDhawk says:

      They gotta be thinking he will be a pre-season warrior and they will trade him for a million picks in four years, like the Pats do with their backups.

  24. bigDhawk says:

    Crap there goes Tapper.

  25. sdcoug says:

    Vannett. I keep reading concerns over his lack of production.

    Kid played in an O surrounded by a play-making QB, the top-drafted RB, and two WRs drafted in the first 3 rounds! That doesn’t leave a lot of scraps at the table.

    We got a guy who is a throw-back, just scratching his potential. We added a piece that can move around, add a blocking element we lacked, catch contested balls, move chains, offer depth, keep our other TEs movin’, etc. Count me in.

    • bigDhawk says:

      You answered your own question about the productivity. OSU had other weapons and didn’t use TEs much in their scheme.

      • sdcoug says:

        It wasn’t a question haha! I was stating why people shouldn’t focus on his (lack of) numbers!

    • Madmark says:

      You won’t miss him 6’6″ 257lbs 34 1/4 arms and 10″hands when he standing next to Helfet at 6’4″ 239lb.

  26. Kenny Sloth says:

    Teams cant believe who is falling to them

  27. Kenny Sloth says:

    Perry to chargers

  28. Kenny Sloth says:

    McG to Chiefs?

  29. bigDhawk says:

    Tapper, Perry, Day. Three solid defensive players pack to back to back. Gonna be scraps left when we get to round five. Be prepared for a bunch of names we’ve never heard of for the rest of our draft.

  30. Sea Mode says:

    I will be happy with however PC/JS surprise us given how they have hit it out of the park so far, but here anyway is my Fab4 wishlist (until convinced otherwise by any of you 😉 ) for our last four picks, with fallback option, in no particular order:

    – Devon “Rockhead” Johnson, RB/FB, Marshall // Keith Marshall, RB, Georgia
    – David Onyemata, DT, Manitoba // Willie Henry, DT, Michigan
    – Jeremy Cash, LB/SS, Duke // Will Parks, SS, Arizona
    – Travis Feeney, OLB, Washington // Christian French, OLB, Oregon

  31. Madmark says:

    I’m always happy with what PC/JS come up with but sometimes you get hooked on a guy and feel that disappointment when you watch them go another team. I been doing these drafts since 2010 and i’m really excited about this one because I’m not doing that bad.
    Germain Ifedi was my pick as well as the trade back for a pick which I used Baltimore giving up 104. So for me this was 1/1.
    Jared Reed heres where I missed. I know why they did it and I think it was a great move. Disappointed about the pick 124 but it was worth it.
    C.J.Prosise I missed the RB pick but not the spot they pick him in so there some satisfaction and I like it better since the guys electric at 220lbs.
    Nick Vannett TE It was always my intention to take the trade down pick and grab the only Blocking TE in this draft. Believe me I’ve been looking for Zack Miller replacement since 2013. Like PC/JS said in there interview after Blocking Y TE are rare. This guy is Big. 6’6″ 257lbs 34 1/4″arms, 10″hands. He’s not the fast 40 TE like a Willson but this guy has a 4.20 20yd shuttle, 30.5 vj, 9’2″bj making him extremely. Reception targets are limited and if I get 20 catchs this is a win. Give this guy a year to learn the ZBS and he puts up 40 reception this is a homerun pick. A true 3 down TE so we can run the ball physically. This was my Thomas Rawls pick for this year.
    Rees Odhiambo WOW. This was my sleeper pick at 215. He was rank 113 at the beginning of the college season and he played great but then he got injured again and he slipped from sight. This guy was part of the OL at Boise St that rushed for 5k yards 3 years ago. This guy has beautiful footwork and movement but he needs to stay healthy. I going to say I pick this guy since he’s on my list and Seattle took him.
    So I’m 3/5 and I still have a
    Connor McGovern
    Willie Henry
    Devon Cajuste
    DeAndre Elliott
    Andy Janoviche
    Vernon Davis
    1 question they was asking on the 24 questions to new draft picks on the Official Seahawk website. What are you going to buy with your money? They all have answered what ever mama wants

  32. Naks8 says:

    Man, I guess people don’t think that highly of westerman/McGovern/Ervin

  33. Sea Mode says:

    No new clues as of yet.

    But there was a cool detail of the war room visible in the background of a video PC posted on Twitter a few min. ago. We know that their main board is directly in front of them. But on the side wall to the left of them there are different boards by teams where they seem to have placed their picks from each round. On the wall above these are specific character traits written in large letters: Open-Minded, Industrious, Respectful are the three traits visible. Just what they are looking for.

  34. Greg Haugsven says:

    Just remember the term “Bully”. Who are the nasty guys left in the draft. Possible players they could target.

  35. Kenny Sloth says:

    Those Cincinnati kids had some good games.

    Chris Moore literally broke William Jackson III

  36. Kullris says:

    I would love to see them get Feeney for that Outside/Dollar backer slot.

  37. Producehawk says:

    Anyone got the link for Seattle draft war room?

  38. bigDhawk says:

    There goes Miles Killebrew. A lot of late round names we talked about this year are going fast in the top of the fourth.

  39. bigDhawk says:

    Gus having a heckuva defensive draft for JAX –
    JAlen Ramsey
    Myles Jack
    YAnnick Ngakoue
    Sheldon Day

    Look out, AFC South.

  40. Kenny Sloth says:

    The thing about this draft: there’s something for everyone. Big bodies, red zone threats. Tons of edge rushers and lots of Juniors.

    Why teams are taking Kenny Clark over Jarran Reed

    Why tweeners are falling so far

  41. Kenny Sloth says:

    Ricardo Louis to the Browns

  42. Volume12 says:

    Have some of you guys calmed down and backed off the ledge?

    This is a dope a* draft class.

    I thought no matter what Seattle did, it would be.

    They like 200 players is BS.

    Try 30-50. That’s it.

    TEF, SPARQ Seattle HAD to get unconventional. The rest of the league is on to them.

    Sorry that Ervin wasn’t taken, but Prosise is bigger and stronger. That’s the theme of the draft.

    • sdcoug says:

      I’m thrilled with this draft. I can keep repeating myself but I’ll save you all the agony 🙂

    • bigDhawk says:

      I like Prosise over Ervin. The Rees pick is the only one that has me scratching my head. With his injury history he probably could have been had in UDFA. A third round pick is a high price especially since there were still very comparable players on the board with no drop-off.

      • sdcoug says:

        It was either our last 3rd, or the end of Round 5. Sounds like they didn’t want to take that chance. I’m ok with it. Kid was rated much higher before his ankle injury

      • Volume12 says:

        I thought he might too, but without the injury Seattle got a 2nd round talent.

        Could care less about the injury history.

        Seattle threw ya for a loop sayin they wanted to get healthier there?

        I can’t stress it enough.

        Odhiambo is the real deal. A steal, a stud. Plays pissed off, tough, punch ya mouth, I’ll do anything to make a team, play anywhere kind of guy.

        • bigDhawk says:

          A third round pick is a high price for a possible Okung-lite, though. All our TEF targets were still on the board so it’s not like it was either ReesO or nothing till the fifth round.

        • GeoffU says:

          Injuries are a concern, but the last one was a broken ankle. Should come back at 100%

    • Kullris says:

      I don’t know why everyone was freaking out. So far I have loved every pick. I remember at the end of last season and the interviews with PC/JS they talked about getting that swagger back, which I can see them doing with each and every pick they have made so far.

    • Kenny Sloth says:

      Well I think Reed falling was a big shake-up to their plan. And I think Fackrell got stolen from them by Green Bay

  43. Kenny Sloth says:

    Hassan Ridgeway scheme fit for Colts?

    Better attacking 3-4 DL available

  44. bigDhawk says:

    Ewes get a TE and Pharoh Cooper for their absurdly overpriced QB.

  45. bigDhawk says:

    What is that big, purple plastic thing JS is carrying around in the war room?

  46. icb12 says:

    Patriots took my guy Malcolm.

    I have to watch him haul in TDs for New England. ..

    Ugh.

  47. bigDhawk says:

    …and Tyler Ervin goes to Houston. That’s OK. I like Prosise better.

  48. Kenny Sloth says:

    Tyler Ervin to the Osweilers everybody

  49. troy says:

    David Onyemata gone

  50. bigDhawk says:

    Close your eyes, Trevor. Don’t look at the Saints that just took David Onymata.

    • Trevor says:

      Crap!!!!!!!! Saints took my two favourite and most explosive DL prospects in the entire draft. Rankins and Oneymata.

      I bet it gets a bad draft grade because all the analysts will say it is way too early. In 3 years this guy will be a top 10 penetrating DT in the league mark my words.

      Saints must have their own version of TEF set up.

  51. bigDhawk says:

    Billing finally off the board, fittingly to the Bengals.

  52. Volume12 says:

    This is what I don’t get.

    We wanted Seattle to get back to the being the bully.

    Guess what guys? They listened! They knew.

    This draft class for me, = 100% bully.

    And now the majority of fans are like ‘yeah, but…. ‘we coulda got so and so.’

    What’s it tell ya about those guys if Seattle passed on them 3 different times?

    They don’t have the character, chip on shoulder, heart, physicality, they want.

    • sdcoug says:

      Re: Odhiambo.

      All you have to do is look at some of the more obscure (less name recognition) O-lineman coming off the board in the 4th, and we’re not even close to being near the end of round 5. There’s every chance another org liked Odhiambo enough to take him before us.

      Just cause WE focused on “tef” guys in the lead-up to the draft doesn’t make this the wrong pick. 31 other teams haven’t seen the value or need yet to select McGov/Dahl

    • bigDhawk says:

      “Bully” is not how I would describe this draft, necessarily. Just very solid so far.

      Again, ReesO is the only big outlier. They didn’t pass on our TEF targets due to any unreported injury concerns because they drafted an injured player instead. What it tells us is either we are wrong about TEF and it’s value to the team or they are, and they blew a chance to get a solid center prospect like McGovern or Dahl.

      • Volume12 says:

        What if he wasn’t an outlier?

        How de we know what he woulda done healthy?

        What are his spring testing numbers? That’s more indicative of the type of athlete he is. Not a pro day on a bum ankle.

        • bigDhawk says:

          That may be so. We’ll see. What we DO know is ReesO was never a name we discussed and he was taken – injuries and all – ahead of players we discussed in depth that were at the top of the physical profile we identified. Just a big question mark, not necessarily good or bad at this point.

  53. icb12 says:

    Thinking Cajuste Goes to Green Bay at the end of this round

  54. Volume12 says:

    TEF does not make a good football players.

    Why are you guys subsribing to that?

    • icb12 says:

      C’mon man.

      Half the guys commenting on this board have been saying exactly that for the last month.

      It’s a point thats been beat like a rented mule for the last three weeks.

      • Rob Staton says:

        icb12 — you’ve totally missed the point on TEF if you thought it was ever projecting ‘good players’.

        It was a formula designed based on Seattle’s draft trends and Tom Cable’s admitted ‘ideals’.

        TEF was used to project what the Seahawks might do in the draft on the OL. That is it. It was never used to project who was good or bad.

        • icb12 says:

          I’m pretty sure you misunderstood me.

          I was responding to V12.
          TEF does NOT indicate if a player will be good. Guys have been saying that on here for a while now.

      • sdcoug says:

        I think what he means is TEF was developed to identify guys who possess athletic qualities the hawks seem to covet.

        What TEF doesn’t do is necessarily indicate that player IS or ISN’T a good player

        • JimQ says:

          IMO- One of the weaknesses of TEF is that all players aren’t equally tested in the drills that TEF relies upon. Some are not testing at all due to injuries, others maybe cause they don’t feel ready for testing or over reliance on pro-day #’s, spring workout #’s which may or may not be completely accurate (hand held times, fast fingered stop watches, etc.)

          Bottom line, TEF is still a very useful tool for judging how athletic players measure up, compared to each other which is kind of the point.

    • Trevor says:

      I liked ONeymata as a player / DT with great quickness and movement skills. The TEF score was just a bonus.

      I am happy with the draft no matter what happens today. The bully is back at C Link

    • V12 says:

      What do Ifedi and Odhiambo have in common?

      33″ arms or longer.

      And who knows what Odhiambo woulda done healthy?

      How many guys sit out their pro days and complain like little girl about a sore knee or sore hamstring?

      Odhiambo was not far removed from having surgery on his ankle and still performed.

      That shows he wants to play this gane. Love’s it, breathes it, eats it. Also showed trenendous heart and character.

    • bigDhawk says:

      Well, yeah, we’ve been talking about TEF not to predict future performance but to predict who the Seahawks might pick on OL. We passed on the top remaining TEF prospects for an oft injured player. That’s what everyone is wondering about.

  55. Volume12 says:

    Jim Nagy one of the best scoutd in the business, said that Jarran Reed was the best run-stuffer he’s seen in years.

    And Ryan Kelly was the best C prospect he’s seen in years.

    Seattle liked Kelly. They realky did.

  56. Hughz says:

    Any thoughts on what position we draft next? LB, WR?

  57. Kenny Sloth says:

    QB 3, 1, 2, 1
    RB 1, 1, 2, 1
    OT 5, 1, 2, 2
    OG 1, 1, 3, 1
    OC 1, 1, 2, 0
    WR 4, 3, 2, 5
    TE 0, 1, 2, 1

    DE 3, 6, 4, 1
    DT 4, 5, 5, 4
    LB 2, 5, 3, 5,
    DS 2, 2, 3, 2
    CB 4, 5, 5, 4

    PLACEKICKER 0, ONE, 0, 0

  58. Trevor says:

    Saints traded up to get Onemayata my guess is Min wanted him too he seems like a Mike Zimmer project. Too bad for the kid he never got to go to Minn with one of the best DL coaches in the game.

  59. Ed says:

    V12, I haven’t seen many people trashing the draft as much as you defending it. I would say most people are pretty happy with the draft. Relax and enjoy, a long wait until the Hawks pick again.

    I would have preferred to stay away from another G in the 3rd and maybe went DE somewhere there, but I like the Hawks draft. Possibly 2 OG, 1 DT to stop the run and maybe get some push up the middle on passing downs, a at worst 3rd down back that could probably do a lot more and an all-around TE.

    • Kenny Sloth says:

      Last night some guy was ranting until we started talking up Odhiambo’s potential.

    • sdcoug says:

      Very solid class that checks a lot of boxes. Hard-nosed players

    • Volume12 says:

      Sorry Ed. I’ll contain my excitement for ya.

      There’s more Seahawk fans out there. It doesn’t just pertain SDB.

  60. bigDhawk says:

    There goes Boehm…to the Cards. 😛

  61. Trevor says:

    I loved the trade up in Rd #2 but man if sucks having to wait almost 2 rounds for a pick.

    • HOUSE says:

      40 more picks to go!

    • sdcoug says:

      It’s a tough wait, but think of all those fans of 31 teams who said “dang, I wish our team had 3 thirds!”

      • Veryal says:

        I can’t imagine being a rams fan. 1st pick and then none until day 3.

        • sdcoug says:

          Brutal. Next year will be lean too

        • HOUSE says:

          @sdcoug and @veryal… EXACTLY

          The craziness of the draft is we got 2 guys we WANTED/COVETED @ #31 (after trading from #26) by #49.

          We don’t have many holes and we have definitely addressed the NEEDS.

          The Rams dropped everything into Goff. If he doesn’t pay off, man oh man…

  62. Ron Hendred says:

    Christian French is the best option for OLB. Great kid. 6’5, 250, 4.7 40, would of easily been a day 2 pick if not a pectoral injury which is fully healed!

  63. Kenny Sloth says:

    Damn. I did a piece on both Deiondre’ Hall and Evan Boehm

  64. Volume12 says:

    Thank you Rob.

    I’m not disagreeing about TEF. I think it’s brilliant work.

    But, some guys seem to think becausr you introduced us to it, thatit means anyone who doesn’t meet it, isn’t a good player.

    And Odhiambo might have. We have no idea.

  65. bobbyk says:

    I never thought about Reed being a potential pick because I thought he’d be long gone by the time we picked at #26. If anything, he’s just like the James Carpenter pick (dominant lineman at Alabama when we wanted to improve physicality), except I never thought Carpenter was very good (although he finally had a legit year in his 5th year for the Jets).

    Thinking Reed would be gone at #26, the thought of him being our second round pick was pure fantasy.

    As disappointed as I am not to get Fackrell and/or Hargrave, I “get it” with all the picks. How fun would it be for us to get a guy like Dahl in the fifth? lol

    Speaking of guys who are still available, people talked about Westerman being a potential first round pick, too. He’s still there and it’s almost the fifth round.

    • C-Dog says:

      I would watch for the potentially of Travis Feeney in the 5th. IMO, his upside is up there with Fackrell.

    • Darnell says:

      If you told me a team left the draft with Reed and Ifedi I would have guessed that their first pick was at 15-20.

    • Ron Hendred says:

      Fackrell overated and has an injury they could hurt him long term. He can’t cover in open space.

  66. bigDhawk says:

    Baltimore takes Willie Henry.

    poop.

  67. Darnell says:

    The more I dig in, the more I LOVE the Vannett pick.

    A pretty damn ferocious, ruthless (damn near dirty) blocker. I think there’s plenty of untapped receiving potential too given that the Bucks had Elliot, Thomas, Miller, Marshall and QBs that run.

    Big dude too, who’s floor I think is Matt Spaeth; a supersized blocker who can use his height to post up in short yardage/red zone. His ceiling? Well, there’s a couple guys that come to mind but it’s almost blasphemous to say.

    • bigDhawk says:

      Right there with ya. LOVE the Vannett pick. I’ve been clamoring for Zach’s replacement ever since we lost him. Mission accomplished.

      • Darnell says:

        And, I don’t think it reflects upon Jimmy/Luke at all.

        It allows both to detach from the line, where they’re both better off.

    • Trevor says:

      Agree completely. Love the pick particularly with a young developing OL. A great blocking TE is a huge asset.

      • Darnell says:

        He’s got some of that douche bro to his playing style too, in a good way. Gronk and Kelce have that, Shockey had it, Bavaro had it.

      • sdcoug says:

        I’m just gonna pat myself on the back cause I advocated this pick and need awhile back. If the Hawks ever need someone to get 1 pick out of 9 correct, they should give me a call as I’m currently available haha

    • Forrest says:

      Just from watching a few highlights, even when he’s half-ass blocking he looks great. Vannett is essentially the Hawks “traditional” TE of the future. He probably won’t put up many stats, but he will be a better blocker than Willson and Graham from day one, and that’s valuable.

  68. Ed says:

    2 positions of somewhat need for me:

    DE
    LB

    • C-Dog says:

      DE, Judon, Blair, McCalister, Fanaika, Cowser

      LB, Feeney, Wallace, Weatherly, Jatavis Brown, Striker

      Some players are definitely still there.

  69. Nate says:

    Travis Feeny is who I am hoping we can pick up in the fifth. I am shocked that Kenneth Dxon is still available at this point but we already have Prosise so not a need.

  70. bigDhawk says:

    Ravens reading our mail – Willie Henry at 132 and Kenneth Dixon at 134.

  71. Saxon says:

    Can someone tell Bucky Brooks to stop speaking into the fan?

  72. Darnell says:

    Hawks obviously read the tea leaves on McGovern, Dahl, Westerman, Haeg appropriately.

    Good testers, yes. But obviously the football people aren’t loving the film.

  73. HOUSE says:

    Dak Prescott went to DAL

  74. bigDhawk says:

    Girls get their Quincy Carter 2.0 QB – Dak Prescott.

  75. Trail Hawk says:

    I maid the mistake of disregarding the tight end position this year, thought they’d address it in late rounds or UDFA. In retrospect I was a fool. Caught off guard by it but now LOVING the Vannett pick.

    • Darnell says:

      I think we may all have underrated what a crucial and important stud of a football player Zach Miller was. His importance may have got lost in the video game numbers that Gronk & Jimmy were putting up.

      • sdcoug says:

        Loved your douche bro comment hahaha

        • Volume12 says:

          I know I did.

          Totally thought they were moving away from TEs like Vannett.

          But, he’s got that Gronk to him.

          Thinks he’s a pretty cool guy. But, I like that!

          Figured they would draft a TE, but thought it would be much later.

  76. Volume12 says:

    That’s a good pick for Dallas.

  77. bigDhawk says:

    Those Gronk and Sherm jerky commercials are kinda awesome.

  78. HOUSE says:

    Cardale “12 Gauge” Jones goes to BUF

  79. Volume12 says:

    I gotta say, I like Indy’s draft.

    The AFCS might actually be some good football.

    RD1 Ryan Kelly, C ‘Bama (Doug Baldwin’s guy)
    RD2- TJ Green, DB, Clemson
    RD3- Le’Raven Clark, OL, Texas Tech
    RD4- Hassan Ridgeway, DT, Texas
    RD4- Antonio Morrisson, LB, Florida

  80. Forrest says:

    I still really want one of Cajuste, Braverman, or Boehringer at WR. Cajuste just has Seahawks written all over him, Braverman is super shifty and could be a hidden gem, and Boehringer is a FREAK of nature…I wouldn’t mind if they resorted him for a year. Getting Cajuste is a priority though, I guess he’s my man crush this draft…

    • Volume12 says:

      That’s an interrsting discussion.

      They’ve never taken a WR after the 4th, their VMAC visitors at the position were late-UDFA type targets.

      Let’s see if they do in fact take a receiver after round 4.

      • Forrest says:

        Yeah that’s true. I think they would have to draft Cajuste, so it will be interesting. Braverman might be one of their priority undrafted guys, ditto Boehringer.

      • Kenny Sloth says:

        Haven’t they taken several WR in the first

    • Trail Hawk says:

      I worry with Boehringer the NFL will try to make us play in Europe, often. Don’t want that headache.

  81. line_hawk says:

    I like that given their poor record in round 4, they completely skipped it this year. 🙂

  82. Dawgma says:

    Damn, 49ers took Blair and I was really hoping to scoop him in these late rounds.

  83. Troy says:

    Broncos took Connor Mcgovern

  84. HOUSE says:

    McGovern just went to DEN

  85. bigDhawk says:

    Of course. The Donkeys get McGovern.

  86. H M Abdou says:

    McGovern to Denver!

  87. ItsAboutTheDefense says:

    We can all agree that Rob’s Trench Explosion Formula identifies the candidates who might enter the Seahawks Technique Development Academy.
    It’s looking like there’s a second Formula that further seperates the candidates. One that relates to the mental side. Unfortunately this is information we aren’t privy to: Does the player learn well? Can he think on his feet? Does he care enough? Can he relate to his teammates? Etc..
    It means we kind of have to extrapolate who guy the player really is from whatever clues we can find. Sort of becomes a detective story.

    • sdcoug says:

      I’m wondering if of all the guys remaining, they felt Odhiambo had the best combination of 1) Guard toughness and upside and 2) realistic swing-tackle potential

  88. elliottatk says:

    There goes Connor McGovern rip

  89. Brandon says:

    So aside from Dahl, who are our remaining OG/OC options?

  90. Nate says:

    Dang it, Blair gone to the 9ers.

  91. bigDhawk says:

    Cards pick right ahead of us at 170. They better not take Cajuste.

  92. GeoffU says:

    Panther’s are just drafting corners

  93. Volume12 says:

    I like this Rashard Robinson kid.

    Tall, long arms, press man corner, plays the run. 4.3 speed. Recovery ability.

    He’s a good gamble.

  94. Shadow says:

    There goes McGovern. Sniff, sniff….

  95. Troy says:

    Seattle traded to 147!!!!!

  96. HOUSE says:

    We just traded up to 147

  97. troy says:

    Hawks trade back up?!!

  98. Volume12 says:

    Seahawks on the clock guys!

  99. Trail Hawk says:

    wow

  100. Ignorant says:

    The Ravens are doing flat out robbery out there.

    Stanley, Kaufusi, Judon, Henry. Think about trenches.

    Seahawks traded up with Patriots.

  101. GeoffU says:

    WHAT IS GOING ON

  102. HOUSE says:

    147 for 225 and 4th rd next year

  103. HOUSE says:

    Quinton Jefferson, DL, Maryland

  104. Troy says:

    Quinton Jefferson?? And we gave up a 4th next year…

  105. Volume12 says:

    There’s our hybrid D-lineman.

    This kid was productive.

    I like it.

  106. Kenny Sloth says:

    Panicky pick :/

  107. bigDhawk says:

    Quinton Jefferson, DT Maryland. uhhh…ok.

    We give up next year’s fourth for this guy? Help me out, everybody.

    • C-Dog says:

      Love this pick, very underrated, not much of a drop off from Bullard, I think. One gap inside penetrator. Mature player, married.

      • Martin says:

        Love it! Found this guy back in January. But he wasn’t a big name so he was overlooked and underrated. Watch some tape on him stayed in the back field. Got an int against Michigan off a tip by running to the ball.

  108. Kullris says:

    I have no idea who he is

  109. GeoffU says:

    Jefferson started three games in 2014 (eight tackles, one for loss) but suffered a torn right ACL against West Virginia. He came back with a vengeance for his redshirt junior year, earning honorable mention All-Big Ten honors with 12.5 tackles for loss, 6.5 sacks, interceptions, and a blocked kick.

  110. Forrest says:

    Hmmm…

  111. Nate says:

    Umm why did they feel the need to move up and draft this guy?

  112. C-Dog says:

    Quinton Jefferson. Nice pick. Seattle got their pass rushing 3 tech. Underrated player in my view.

  113. Kenny Sloth says:

    We still pick this round

  114. Vista says:

    Bucs select Caleb Benenoch

  115. H M Abdou says:

    Quinton Jefferson good pick, interior rusher. Seems like a mature guy, too.

  116. Volume12 says:

    C-dog, here’s your boy!

    Everyone wanted a pass rusher.

    This is it.

    Ony a junior, hae over 10 TFL, he s long, quick off the ball, physical, had 6.5 sacks IIRC.

    Might not be the name ya wanted, but he’s got the skill set of Blair d Tapper.

  117. Forrest says:

    Sounds good as a player, but I don’t dig the cost to get him.

    • C-Dog says:

      I think that considering what they gave up, they saw a lot of value though. Inside rush was a big need. This is what he does.

  118. Madmark says:

    What Seattle use to move up?

  119. Shadow says:

    “Movin’ on up” for Jefferson? Perfect!

  120. Vista says:

    Giants pick is Paul Perkins

  121. Dawgma says:

    Not a fan of giving up picks like this. Seems pretty unremarkable from an athleticism standpoint too, and not unbelievably productive.

    • Lewis says:

      How many times has Rob talked about needing an interior DL to get 5ish sacks? They think this could be that guy.

    • GeoffU says:

      12.5 tfl and 6.5 for an interior guy? That’s very good production. Nearly identical 40 and 10yd split as Joey Bosa with 22 extra pounds. Good short shuttle too at 4.37 (also a hair behind Bosa).

    • chet380 says:

      His Youtube highlight reel definitely shows pass-rushing skills.

  122. Volume12 says:

    We still pick in the 5th, 6th, and 7th.

    Gave up a 4th next year. And? We can trade comps next year and we got a 4th round conp coming for Bruce Irvin.

    • Brandon says:

      Exactly, do not see the problem with this pick. People wanted a Blair/Henry type player, but they are gone. I like this pick, they’re preparing for the possible loss of Hill, or if he is unhealthy. Plus they still have another 5th and like you said, we’ll definitely get a 4th round Compensatory Pick.

    • H M Abdou says:

      I agree, no big deal.

    • GeoffU says:

      Never heard of the guy before, but now that I’ve looked into him a bit, love it!

  123. jdtjohnson says:

    you guys keep saying you don’t like the cost. we traded a late 4th next year for a high 5th this year. We get our hands on a guy a year earlier. Not sure how that’s “such a huge cost”. 7th rounders are not likely to make a team anyhow, so that can’t be everyone’s issue.

    • bigDhawk says:

      That’s all fine. He better contribute, though.

      • jdtjohnson says:

        he’s a 5th rounder…they don’t all contribute, especially right away. relax. 1st rounders are less than 50% successful, so cut them some slack on a 5th rounder

        • bigDhawk says:

          Then why throw away next year’s fourth?

          • jdtjohnson says:

            lol…never mind. keep your anger about a mid/late round draft pick. I’m never going to convince you of anything, so stick with what suits you

          • GeoffU says:

            They probably think next years class isn’t as good as this years.

          • drrew76 says:

            147 this year for roughly 125 next year. That’s a perfectly reasonable deal. I’d imagine via trade chart numbers, Seattle actually got the better of the deal.

    • sdcoug says:

      Agreed. Let’s step away from the ledge. JS doesn’t just give away draft picks unless he sees value

    • drrew76 says:

      We give up roughly 125 next year for 147 this year. The 7th round picks are really not of consequence. That’s a perfectly reasonable trade.

  124. Vista says:

    Bears pick is Jordan Howard

  125. Kenny Sloth says:

    QB 3, 1, 2, 3
    RB 1, 1, 2, 3, 2
    OT 5, 1, 2, 3, 2
    OG 1, 1, 3, 1, 1
    OC 1, 1, 2, 1
    WR 4, 3, 2, 5, 1
    TE 0, 1, 2, 2

    DE 3, 6, 4, 2, 2
    DT 4, 5, 5, 4, 1
    LB 2, 5, 3, 6
    DS 2, 2, 3, 3
    CB 4, 5, 5, 6, 1

    And a kicker

  126. Troy says:

    there goes Dahl to the lions

  127. H M Abdou says:

    Dahl to Detroit

  128. bigDhawk says:

    Dahl to Detroit.

  129. Kenny Sloth says:

    Joe Dahl to Detroit

  130. Forrest says:

    Another one bites the dust…

  131. Volume12 says:

    Giving up a 4th next year is irrelevant. We have 2 anywas.

    Even if Jefferson doesn’t see the field, it’s okay to draft for future needs.

    Why would Tapper, Blair, Hargrave, etc. see the field early but not this guy?

    Very underrated. In any othe draft year, he’s a 3rd round talent,

    • C-Dog says:

      Yup! I think he will probably see some action in the NASCAR, he’s built for that. Telling y’all he will be a fan favorite, me thinks! GO HAWKS.

      • Volume12 says:

        C-dog, your one of my favorite guys here at SDB to talk, debate, and discusd with.

        You called this one buddy! Very cool.

        Point is, I trust your eye.

  132. Kullris says:

    I still see westerman and allen are still on the board hmm…

  133. Vista says:

    Detroit’s pick is Joe Dahl

  134. Kenny Sloth says:

    Double double down on the trenches

  135. Trail Hawk says:

    I still want Cash.

  136. Nate says:

    I hope we get Travis Feeny with our next pick. We already selected two offensive lineman and can pick up more in free agency.

  137. Kenny Sloth says:

    I think we wanted mcgovern

  138. Vista says:

    Washington’s pick is Matt Ioannidis

  139. Ehurd1021 says:

    we needed a nickle pass rusher…. and they moved up to get their guy

  140. Trail Hawk says:

    2 OL, 2 DL, RB, and a TE, What are needs now? Who’s still there? Never have too many Pass Rushers!

  141. icb12 says:

    Solid.

    Combo of Reed and Jefferson could be nasty – together they make the complete package.

  142. CharlieTheUnicorn says:

    IN OUR VIEW: A two-year starter, Jefferson started as a defensive end as a sophomore before moving inside as a junior in 2015, finishing among the team leaders in tackles for loss and sacks – takes a business-like approach to the field because it is more than a game due to his family dynamic. He has a basketball background and moves well for a 290+ pounder, showing the early quickness to launch off the line of scrimmage and infiltrate the backfield. But Jefferson gets himself in trouble when he allows his pads to rise and base to narrow, allowing offenses to successfully run at him.

    Although his effectiveness drops if he doesn’t win with quickness off the snap, Jefferson has the athletic traits and workable frame to be a quality three-technique in a defensive line rotation.

    –Dane Brugler (4/28/16)

  143. line_hawk says:

    I said it above. 4th round is Hawks weakness. Good they got rid of next year’s 4th as well.

    Not enough info on Jefferson. Lets get to YouTube.

  144. Forrest says:

    So, maybe WR or DB next?

  145. Kullris says:

    I am surprised that alex collins and devon cajuste are still on the board

  146. Vista says:

    Eagles’ pick is Wendell Smallwood

  147. sdcoug says:

    Jefferson.

    Go watch his highlight reel before immediately judging. Some really nice penetration there.

    • Mark J says:

      (I wrote above also) He also seems to have good hands.

    • Lewis says:

      No kidding. I’m impressed. He’s not a guy that blows linemen off the bowl, but he looks great at knifing between guys. If they could build up his strength a bit more so he CAN knock guys back a little when needed, he could be extremely disruptive.

      • sdcoug says:

        I imagine they have one purpose in mind for him: pin your ears back and get into the backfield. If he gets knocked off-base, you still have Bennett, Reed, Rube, Bobby to deal with

  148. Volume12 says:

    During the season, this is why Iost whwhat games Seattle scouts are at.

    Every pick so far, they scouted that game in person.

    Jefferson is a production machine.

    • CharlieTheUnicorn says:

      Some of the meh production at DT on 3rd downs have been put on notice…… produce or you are going to be gone by game #1 in 2016. (Williams / Marsh / everyone else on DL)

      • Volume12 says:

        * I post what games Seattke scouts are at it shoulda said

      • C-Dog says:

        Williams is already gone. Marsh is edge. I think Jordan Hill might want to come out of the gates with his hair on fire. IMO, Jefferson can legitimately push Hill.

    • bigDhawk says:

      Very well. For the price paid let’s see him stay healthy and contribute something.

  149. Vista says:

    Browns select Jordan Payton

  150. Vista says:

    Colts select Joe Haeg

  151. RealRhino2 says:

    Lions and Dahl, good fit/pick for both.

  152. HOUSE says:

    Dahl and Haeg both gone

  153. Brandon says:

    I think that we go with either a LB or WR. Possibility of a DB too. I’m hoping for either Feeney, Cajuste, or Charone Peake.

  154. Vista says:

    Bills select Jonathan Williams

  155. CharlieTheUnicorn says:

    Rumor, Scooby Wright might be next pick for Seattle

    • Volume12 says:

      I think he might be too.

      Did you see him eating Skittles?

      Was that a clue?

    • Forrest says:

      Holy shit!! I forgot that guy even existed!! That might be awesome.

    • Kullris says:

      Do we need another ILB or an OLB?

    • RealRhino2 says:

      Hope not. Doesn’t seem like what we do at all. Scrappy production machine, but where’s the athleticism? Couple of corners I still like, lots of OLB prospects still available.

      • RealRhino2 says:

        Heck, for that matter, three safeties I like, including Deandre Houston-Carson. Woot! Go Hawks!

    • C-Dog says:

      I’m Feeney Feeney Feeney, all the way, but would love some Scooby.

      • RealRhino2 says:

        FWIW, I think the Bills are killing it so far. Browns are still being Browns, I think, with a good run of picks but some guys that don’t really excite.

  156. Vista says:

    Titans select LeShaun Sims

  157. GeoffU says:

    Next two picks could be any position. Probably at pure BPA right now

  158. Volume12 says:

    Let’s get Scooby Wright man,

    He’s a mixture of Brock Coyle and Cassius Marsh.

    STs demon.

    Good developmental type.

    Tough,gritty, high football IQ, always around the ball, just makes plays.

    Plays best in big games/moments.

  159. abark says:

    Was that Jason Hanson that announced the Dahl pick?

  160. chet380 says:

    Is there a sparq freak DB still out there?

    • Volume12 says:

      S. Miss CB Kalan Reed, Colorado St CB DeAndre Elliott, Nebraska CB Daniel Davie, Auburn CB Blake Countess

  161. Forrest says:

    I would be happy with Cajuste, Feeny, Wright (interesting more than I pick I would love), or Cash maybe…

  162. HOUSE says:

    I didn’t realize we got 243 back from NE in the trade earlier. Initially thought it was 147 for 225 and 2017 4th rd pick.

    NE: 225 and 2017 4th rd pick
    SEA: 147 and 243

    • GeoffU says:

      So we didn’t even lose a pick? Basically moved next years 4th into a 5th this year? (and a high 5th, and as we all know next years 4th will be a low 4th)

      Good deal

  163. Vista says:

    Jets select Brandon Shell

  164. Nate says:

    Brandon Shell to the Jets. He was one I was kinda hoping for.

  165. Kenny Sloth says:

    QB 3, 1, 2, 3
    RB 1, 1, 2, 3, 5
    OT 5, 1, 2, 3, 4
    OG 1, 1, 3, 1, 2
    OC 1, 1, 2, 1
    WR 4, 3, 2, 5, 1
    TE 0, 1, 2, 2

    DE 3, 6, 4, 2, 2
    DT 4, 5, 5, 4, 2
    LB 2, 5, 3, 6
    DS 2, 2, 3, 3
    CB 4, 5, 5, 6, 2

    And a kicker

  166. Dtrain says:

    A lot of big WRs available…Cajuste, Peake, Garrett, Thomas, the German kid. Hmmm.

  167. CharlieTheUnicorn says:

    WR Cajuste or LB Wright would be nice picks in bottom of 5th

  168. Vista says:

    Texans select K.J. Dillon

  169. Kenny Sloth says:

    Ten more picks…

  170. CharlieTheUnicorn says:

    Dak Prescott still available?

  171. Vista says:

    Vikings select Kentrell Brothers

  172. Kenny Sloth says:

    First rd 5 lb and s back to back

  173. Kenny Sloth says:

    Westerman is gonna look good next to Mitch Morse

  174. Vista says:

    Bengals select Christian Westerman

  175. Volume12 says:

    Jefferson has more than an 80″ wingspan.

    He matches what Seattle likes for their pass rushing DTs.

    10 yard split. Highly important for them. Jefferson’s is a 1.69.

    Knifes into the backfield, watch how he alters RBs lanes, creases, and keys. Impressive. Flys off the ball, elite swim move.

    He lives in the gaps. That’s a Seahawk DT.

    • bigDhawk says:

      Hope he becomes Clinton McDonald.

    • H M Abdou says:

      Excellent write up, makes 12s feel great about that pick!

    • CharlieTheUnicorn says:

      negatives: he gets washed out of rushing plays and struggles vs double teams
      positives: can collapse a pocket or at least put pressure on QBs from the DT spot….. a need Seattle has had on and off for the last 2 years. Best part, he should only be on the field on 3rd down or 2nd or 3rd and 10+ situations, so the issues vs the rush should be minimized.

    • sdcoug says:

      As I posted above, I think they have one job in mind for him: pin his ears back and get into the backfield. If he gets knocked off-base, you still have Bennett, Reed, Rube, Bobby to deal with.

    • Forrest says:

      So really the only reason we haven’t focused on this guy is because of injuries? With all that info I’m no longer surprised or upset with the pick. Thanks V12!

    • C-Dog says:

      Solid, solid pick. Kid’s going to come in and work his backside off. I think if he stays healthy, he’s going to be a fan favorite.

      Thanks for the props above, Volume 12. If you didn’t catch my response, you are absolutely one of my favorite contributors here. Really appreciate your insight, and football smarts. You’re a solid dude to chat with.

    • bobbyk says:

      I have never seen many DTs “juke” the way he does. I can’t believe how impressive it is. That’s a mans-man rushing the pass rusher. Love the pick. That “juke” might allow him to be somewhat effective as a rookie! I remember the way Warren Sapp would “juke” or studder-step before attacking with quickness. Bruce Irvin has absolutely zero “juke” ability. Jefferson has it. It’s not something you can teach or time either, you either have it or you can hope to get it a little bit… I’m impressed.

  176. Vista says:

    Chiefs select Kevin Hogan

  177. bigDhawk says:

    Trevor Davis a nice pick for the Cheese at 163.

  178. Volume12 says:

    Next pick might be a wideout.

    WR coaches in the war room.

    WR, LB, or CB.

  179. Vista says:

    Packers select Trevor Davis

  180. bigDhawk says:

    Vaitai to the Iggles. Solid.

  181. Kenny Sloth says:

    Vaati Vaitai is an Eagle

  182. Forrest says:

    Well, all the TEF guys are gone…

  183. Nate says:

    Vaitia taken. Last Tackle I really wanted.

  184. Volume12 says:

    I wonder if Seattle would take Udub DL Taniela Tupuo and convert him to FB.

    He worked out as one and ran FB drills at his pro day.

    It’s uncany how comparable his athletic measurements and #s are to Will Tukuafu’s.

  185. C-Dog says:

    Interesting that Jack Allen is still on board. Feeney there. Scooby Wright. Cajuste. Jeremy Cash there too.

  186. Michael (CLT) says:

    Have some fun guys. Enjoy seeing your favorite players get drafted. Having the players get drafted by other teams validates everyone’s analysis.

    The negative attitudes and absolutes are really a downer.

    Have fun guys. This is a game.

  187. Kenny Sloth says:

    We’re on deck

  188. chet380 says:

    C’mon, boys — how about some CB possibilities.

  189. bigDhawk says:

    DJ Reader to Texans. I thought he looked like Mebane’s twin.

  190. Vista says:

    Browns select Spencer Drango

  191. J says:

    Don’t mind giving up the future 4th because it’ll be easy to get a new one.

    We got a third for moving down five spots this year. No reason why we can’t do that again.

    • bobbyk says:

      That’s a good point.

      You do have to realize though that it is abnormal to get a third the way we did it. Supply and demand. We only got a 4th a few years ago in the Vikings trade. But agreed. We can and probably will get it back.

  192. HawkFan907 says:

    I’m hoping for Feeney, wouldn’t be surprised at Elliot though. I could also see D.J. Hunter coming in here earlier than expected.

  193. Vista says:

    Lions select Antwione Williams

  194. bigDhawk says:

    Hey, how bout that 400lb Baylor TE? Anybody in on him?

  195. Lewis says:

    What happened to 247?

  196. H M Abdou says:

    Moritz Boehringer would be terrific

    • bigDhawk says:

      Him or Cajuste. Cajuste is probably a better run blocker so that likely gives him the edge.

  197. Volume12 says:

    Boise St’s Marcus Henry is a possibility at C too.

  198. Trevor says:

    I think Cajuste, Feeney or another LB / Special Teamer. Or the annual 5th round DB.

  199. Vista says:

    Cardinals select Cole Toner

  200. C-Dog says:

    Going to think Scoob, Feeney or Wallace here. Possibly, Cash, maybe Jack Allen, or Cajuste. CB’s Mike Jordan or Seymour.

  201. HawkFan907 says:

    On the clock!

  202. cover-2 says:

    David Perkins or Boehringer please.

  203. elliottatk says:

    hoping for cajuste

  204. HawkFan907 says:

    Wow… Another RB. Crazy!

  205. Troy says:

    Hawks select Alex Collins, another RB!!!

  206. Vista says:

    ‘Hawks select Alex Collins

  207. Ed says:

    Alex Collins RB

  208. Madmark says:

    Wow what a steal

    • Michael (CLT) says:

      I love this pick. Sure I would love Cajuste or Freeney, but I don’t know poop regarding there medicals or personalities. That said, Collins is truly a beast. Really stoked for 2016.

  209. Nate says:

    Whoaa didn’t see that coming.

  210. Kullris says:

    Lol Mike Salk going crazy

  211. jdtjohnson says:

    alex collins RB arkasas

  212. C-Dog says:

    Alec Collins. Well there you go. Loaded at running back now.

  213. HOUSE says:

    Alex Collins, RB, Arkansas

    I wanted him instead of Prosise… interesting

  214. elliottatk says:

    Ale x collins?

  215. bigDhawk says:

    Whoa! Alex Collins. Forgot about him. Five deep at RB now.

  216. HawkFan907 says:

    That doesn’t bode well for Christine Michael. Maybe there is more to Rawls injury than we know.

    • H M Abdou says:

      Yup, bye bye to my guy CMike. I have no problem with this pick, CMike has had ample opportunities, maybe no longer?

    • LantermanC says:

      I can’t see why they’d be leery of Michael.

      All he did the last few games was:

      16 carries 84 yards against CLE.
      6 carries 6 yards against STL (admittedly the whole team stank), Bryce Brown was 7 for 9.
      17 carries for 102 yards against ARI.
      21 carries for 70 yards against MIN in an Ice Bowl where Marshawn took all the practice carries then didn’t board the plane.
      0 carries against CAR where Marshawn came back and we fell behind 30-0.
      Maybe not a guy you want being your bell cow, but that sounds about as good as half the starting RBs in the league.

  217. Volume12 says:

    Loading up.

    Alex Collins. Stud back, but again, didn t test well athletically due to an injury.

    One of my favorite backs in this class.

    So similar to Thomas Rawls.

  218. abark says:

    There’s a heck of a surprise

  219. bobbyk says:

    James Carpenter turned into Alex Collins!

  220. drrew76 says:

    Christine Michael is going to be in a really tough battle to make the 2016 roster.

  221. Forrest says:

    I mean…ok, they must be doing BPA at this point…

  222. Saxon says:

    Bye-bye Christine Michael. You won’t be missed.

  223. J says:

    Called both of these picks in last nights threasld. trading a 2017 pick to move up to get a nickle pass rusher. And drafting a second RB.

  224. ]Ben-Ft. Worth TX says:

    Wow!!!! 2 bad ass RB’S???!! I guess we don’t have to worry about finding that UDFA RB this year. Lol

    No Cajuste or Feeney?

  225. Vista says:

    Cleveland selects Rashard Higgins

  226. Burner says:

    Does this selection suggest Rawls’ injury is worse than thought?

    • elliottatk says:

      I really hope not, but it seems like from all past reports that Rawls will be ready to go at the start of the season.

      • darrenlk says:

        I think its an indictment of c-mike…the only reason he came back was rawls ankle and lynchs’ hernia issue.

  227. GeoffU says:

    This has turned into a fun draft. What was his injury?

  228. Nate says:

    How many Receivers is Cleveland going to take?

  229. Brando says:

    alex collins might be a full back thats what im thinking.

    • bigDhawk says:

      He’s not big enough. We are obviously hedging our bets on a starting RB. Rawls might not be ready to start the season and Prosise is going to be a third down specialist. That leaves just
      CMike for early downs. Collins should compete for that role till Rawls gets up to speed.

      • j says:

        C-Mike might not even make the team. Only guaranteed 25k. Only a Seahawk because no one else would take him.

    • Kenny Sloth says:

      Or Prosise is a FB

    • GeoffU says:

      With Vannett, we don’t need a fullback

  230. Vista says:

    Browns select Trey Caldwell

  231. Forrest says:

    I don’t dislike the pick, but PC/JS continue to confuse me…offensive draft for sure…

  232. bobbyk says:

    Lots of young blood for the offense. Five offensive players through five rounds (four offensive players through three rounds).

    Love the Reed/Jefferson pick(s) for the defense, too.

    Broken hearted about Fackrell and Hargrave getting so close to us in the third, but really do like this class so far.

  233. Volume12 says:

    We are so deep at RB

    Collins is a Spencer Ware, backup RB.

    Prosise replaces Freddy Jackson, Ricardon Lockette as a gunner, and gives us a Harvin like weapon.

    I love what Seattle is doing.

    This kid is a steal.

  234. Greg Haugsven says:

    Being the Bully. That’s what Schneider said and the picks are just that. All the picks so far except Prosise are bully type players.

    • C-Dog says:

      Yup. Promise gives us a very interesting Offensive Weapon. As Dennis Leary said in Draft Day “I got a team full of Tarzans, I could use a Jane.” Love this freaking draft.

    • MarkinSeattle says:

      Procise is 6-0, 220. He consistently fell forward for an extra yard or two. I don’t agree that he is not a bully, especially considering what he has done on special teams. He might not be a bowling ball, dive into the line. But he is definitely hard nosed.

      • bjammin says:

        Schneider mentioned a couple times that he needs to learn to finish. I don’t think he finishes like Rawls or Collins, but he’s a receiver in the backfield and homerun threat and still getting better. I think he’s the touchdown maker Pete always likes. Pete loves a loaded backfield, has just had luxury of Lynch the last number of years. I think he wants them all to battle it out and play the hot hand and keep the running game fresh. For anyone thinking the Seahawks might go to more of a passing game, think again.

  235. C-Dog says:

    Ifedi, Reed, Proisise, Vannett, Odhiambo, Jefferson, Collins. The Seattle Seahawks are getting back to the bully basics. Outstanding draft thus far.

  236. peter says:

    V12…excellent shout early on this one!!

  237. Scottie says:

    By picking Collins, I wonder if the plan is to use Prosise as a Harvin-lite: line him up in the slot and in the backfield, throw bubble-screens and flairs in the flat. And they’ll use Collins and the traditional “back-up” RB to Rawls (or 3rd RB is Michael is the 2).

  238. Vista says:

    49ers select Fahn Cooper

  239. elliottatk says:

    Niners Take Cooper Fahn

  240. HOUSE says:

    Thoughts on the RB situation (as it stands)

    Rawls: Our starter and will be ready for Week 1. I don’t expect much of him at all in the preseason

    Prosise: A former WR and can line up as one. Similar to Fred Jackson. COP guy

    Collins: Traditional RB in our mold. Sheds tackles and is great at one-cut, hole blasting

    Michael: Showed some upside (always been there, just can’t hold it all together). I think he’ll be in for the fight of his career coming training camp/preseason

  241. Vista says:

    Chargers select Jatavis Brown

  242. bigDhawk says:

    Fahn Cooper to the Whiners. We talked a lot about him before TEF.

  243. C-Dog says:

    Feeney in R6 would be an absolute steal.

  244. Volume12 says:

    Seattle can carry 4 RBs, because Collins mightebe a Derrick Coleman like FB.

    Rawls is fine. He’s our 1, but we need insurance.

    C-Mike needs to pushed and hard. Check.

    Prosise gives us a weapon we’ve ben looking for since Harvin didn’t pan out, and is our 3rd down back according to PC.

    Collins might be a RB/FB mix. Or anothet backup if C-Mike gets cut or Prosise needs more time to develop.

    Remember guys, CJ isn’t a true RB. He’s different.

    • C-Dog says:

      Yeah, that’s what I’m thinking. They tried Ware at FB. Seem to always be laboring to have a playmaker at that position. This is going to be an interesting back field for sure.

    • MarkinSeattle says:

      I agree that Procise will line up all over the field. We will likely see him on the field with Rawls a good chunk of the time.

  245. Nate says:

    Can anyone explain why Cleveland has picked 5 different receivers? No way they can keep that many. If I was a Browns fan I would be pissed.

    • icb12 says:

      RGIII airing it out this year …..

      🙂

    • CharlieTheUnicorn says:

      The washed out the whole WR class….. one is projected to TE I think

    • HOUSE says:

      – Josh Gordon is probably gone for good… Can’t leave weed alone.
      – Travis Benjamin left (versatile WR and returner)
      – Cut Dwayne Bowe

      They need a major overhaul at the position… Hue Jackson has always had good WRs

    • Mark J says:

      And it’s not unlike the Seahawks have done. Identify a need and go all out to address it.

    • j says:

      Especially since Cody Kessler is only capable of completing screens to running backs.

  246. icb12 says:

    I think writing off CMike might be a mistake at this point.

    • Saxon says:

      Why? He was waived twice last season. He is a borderline NFL player. Why some people hang on to this guy mystifies me. He’s all potential no production. Those guys last a couple of seasons then they’re exposed as frauds and cut.

      Collins will trounce him in preseason, but I doubt Michael makes it out of training camp. If the FO really trusted him they wouldn’t have cut him and then drafted two more backs in the off season. Buh-bye.

      • H M Abdou says:

        Fair point, and you may well be right, CMike may be out the door. But I agree with icb12 that it’s not automatic. They all still have to compete with each other. If Alex and CJ beat out CMike, then that’s great for the team (and shame on CMike for losing job to a couple of rooks).

        We’ll see how everything turns out.

  247. Kenny Sloth says:

    Prosise to FB anyone?

  248. Vista says:

    Broncos select Andy Janovich

  249. CharlieTheUnicorn says:

    Charone Peake WR Clemson is still available? Does anyone know why he slipped so far?

    6’2″ 209 4.37 40 at pro day

  250. Madmark says:

    Early to begin with Rob did article about Alex Collins in the 3rd round so at 171 this is a Steal. I just felt this was going offensive draft and its all that with a definite edge to continue to Run the football. I think CM time is limited here.

  251. Vista says:

    Rams pick Temarrick Hemingway

  252. bigDhawk says:

    A lot of teams having really good drafts. Speaks to the depth of this class.

  253. Volume12 says:

    Collins is the perfect one cut runner for this scheme.

    Runs hard between the tackles, elusive, has those shifty shoulders that Lynch had. He’s another tough guy.

    Checks off the adversity box. Grew up rough in Southern Florida. Has that type of swag.

    He runs like a grown a** man. Looks like one too.

    Mom stole his LOI to Arkansas because she wanted him to stay close to home and go to Miami. He lived with his HC in HS, becausr his mom is rumored to have some mental healty issues.

    He never knew his dad, but hae to track him down to sign-off on his LOI because they couldn’t find his mom.

    Another draft pick that fell due to testing poorl because of injury.

    • Mark J says:

      And this is the gritty back story that the Seahawks love.

    • Michael (CLT) says:

      12, tell me you are on a cell phone or enjoying a brew, cause your spelling gets worse by the hour ?

      • Volume12 says:

        Nope. I don’t drink.

        My typing is so bad. Agreed. I do apologize for that.

        The spell check on my tablet doesn’t work.

        I need an edit button.

  254. Vista says:

    Chiefs select DJ White

  255. TannerM says:

    PUNTER!!!

  256. Vista says:

    Chargers select Drew Kaser

  257. HOUSE says:

    Boehringer to Vikings

  258. New Guy says:

    Alex Collins says he was used a lot in pass pro. Might be indicative of how they see him being used (in part) in Seattle.

  259. bigDhawk says:

    Vikes get Boehringer.

  260. Vista says:

    Vikings select Moritz Boehringer

  261. Vista says:

    Jags select Tyrone Holmes

  262. Forrest says:

    Ok, so before the 6th round pick here are my thoughts so far:

    Ifedi starts at RT, Rees works as a backup G year one.

    Reed and Rubin on 1st and 2nd down, Jefferson and Hill on 3rd and long.

    Vannett starts next to Willson and Graham as a conventional every down TE, but doesn’t get Willson’s or Graham’s targets.

    CJ is the primary 3rd down back, and Collins spells Rawls, and/or acts as a FB.

    I still want a WR and a LB. But both of those can be answered in UDFA.

    Overall grade so far: -A

    • GeoffU says:

      I’m really warming up to the 2TE (sometimes 3TE) 1 RB set that Cable loves. Vannett can motion into the backfield for FB when needed, and on fakes can either block or cut through the line and into a route.

      • GeoffU says:

        Prosise can also motion out as a WR, we also like doing that (unfortunately Turban couldn’t catch that well). Imagine the flexibility? 2 TE, 2 RB, set, but where Graham and Prosise motion out to WR’s half the time? Holy match-up nightmare from hell. This offense is going to be INSANE.

    • 12er says:

      Vannett will compete and get some snaps as a Y, but he’s far from a year-1 every down TE tho…

      Jefferson will compete with Hill for one spot in nickel. Bennett plays the other DT spot in nickel.

      Ifedi and Reed are week 1 starters in all likelihood.

      The RB competition will be fierce.

  263. C-Dog says:

    If they land Travis Feeney at 215, I’m going to flip the @#$% out, just saying.

  264. Vista says:

    Ravens select Keenan Reynolds

  265. Vista says:

    Bucs select Devante Bond

  266. TannerM says:

    Wow, Devonte Bond taken before his more notorious teammate, Striker.

  267. Volume12 says:

    JS and Bielema are connected man.

    We just went from ‘BeastMode’ to ‘BuddaMode. That’s Collins nickname BTW.

  268. C-Dog says:

    Thinking there’s a chance Seattle could to QB in 6. Jeff Driskel fits the mold of athlete at the position. Maybe they go with Collins’ teammate, Brandon Allen. Allen’s pretty decent on the boots and rollouts.

    • Saxon says:

      DRISKEL!!!

      Want him too, but there’s a reason a former 5 star recruit falls this far,

  269. bigDhawk says:

    Three picks left. If we get Cajuste, DeAndre Elliott, and maybe Striker I’ll be giddy.

  270. nichansen01 says:

    Jefferson and Collins are great picks

  271. JustMeMyself&! says:

    When the 6th pick comes up, do you go Feeney or Cajuste if they’re both still available?

  272. Sea Mode says:

    Dang Pete and John look happy there in the War Room. Think we’re gonna be runnin the ball at all this season?

    *Craziness would ensue if they still took Devon Johnson at FB!

  273. Volume12 says:

    What stands out to me about Collins?

    He’s a short-stepper. Seattle likes that in their RBs.

    Remember when I said that guys like Odhiambo’s spring testing numbers are more indicative of the type of athlete he is?

    This is why.

    Collins ran a 4.45 40, 38″ vert, broad jumped over 10 feet.

    • Sea Mode says:

      Boom! Nice work, V12

      BPA in action. I think we could reasonably argue that every player taken by Seattle so far today could have been in consideration for one of the R3 picks. That’s how much value we are getting!

    • Kenny Sloth says:

      Elite feet on Collins

  274. Kenny Sloth says:

    Prosise has unique vision at RB

    Idk where this narrative of Alex Collins being a good blocker came from.
    Watch the tape.

    I like how he asks the opposition to help him up

    • Volume12 says:

      Collins has someof the best tape of any RB in this draft.

      He’s one of only three guys to rush for over 1,000 yards his first three years.

      Needs to clean up his ball security though.

      • HOUSE says:

        Procise is a swiss army knife… Played WR 2 years at Notre Dame and due to an injury to a teammate, move to RB. I think he’s a move player that will be a matchup nightmare.

        Collins is a monster of a RB. Has nimble feet and packs a punch. I think he’ll come in and chew up yards. Had some ball security issues last year and will need to hold onto the ball

  275. Sea Mode says:

    Pete kicks his feet up onto the desk. JS stretches out. Two other guys pull out a football and start playing catch.

    Our team is awesome.

  276. Ignorant says:

    Feeney and Cajuste for the win.

  277. Steele says:

    This is turning out to be a hit and miss draft, in my opinion.

    The main thing is that Cable is happy with the existing o-line and will give last year’s conversion guys (and Webb/Sowell) every opportunity. Where will Ifedi play? LT, RT or G? I am leery about Rees O. He was a reach and an injury risk, projected low rounder. Same question, is he T or G? I have seen Rees comparisons with Ali Marpet. I sure hope so.

    I think the interior o-line needed help, especially at center, a huge problem. They passed on McGovern/Dahl/Haeg/Boehm. All of them. I am very disappointed on this. They have not done anything about C, which means it’s Sokoli/Lewis again.

    They loaded at RB. Overkill? Prosise will add a different dimension to the offense. Think Shane Vereen, Tavon Austin, Harvin, etc. I like Alex Collins, a Beast lite. A committee of Rawls/Collins/Prosise? CMike is the odd one out, I think.

    Quinton Jefferson. Film looks good. He has some pass rush.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5EzSkFsMY8

    So just as Cable seems confident in the existing o-line, looks like they are not confident in Rubin/Siliga/HIll to have gone x2 at DT in this draft.

    • Lewis says:

      Solo li wasn’t ready to even be part of the mix last year. We have no clue how much progress he might have made. This could be a sign that he has come a long way and is ready to compete now. If not, you would have a point.

      • Lewis says:

        Sokoli, stupid autocorrect

        • Steele says:

          They really need a long-term anchor at center. A smashmouth tough guy who makes the rest of the line work. Sorry, I don’t see it. To trust that role to a guy who is just now learning the position is a dicey. This is one reason I had been hoping for a free agent veteran for a long time. Barring that, the best of this draft. Nope.

    • Sea Mode says:

      Rees is a guard. And a nasty, athletic one at that.

      Sokoli taking over at C was always the plan and has not been abandoned as of yet, testified to by their keeping him on the active roster all season long last year. Didn’t want to risk losing him off the practice squad. He’s going to be something special, and I hope he can jump in this year so our re-vamped OL has years to gel together.

      Agree on CMike.

      Jarran Reed is an upgrade to Mebane, let alone Siliga. There are still hopes for Hill but we needed another guy in case he gets injured again. All just awesome depth moves.

    • bigDhawk says:

      Jack Allen still on the board if we want to bring in another bully to compete at center.

      • Steele says:

        Would make my day, but I don’t think he will last much longer. And he doesn’t fit the profile of TEF, etc.

  278. Trail Hawk says:

    Very surprised that James Cowser is still on the board. Might not be a great ‘fit’ here and looks awkward, but he’s a production beast.

  279. bigDhawk says:

    Boehriner is getting more air time on NFLN than any of the first round picks.

  280. reggieregg says:

    The Reese Obdhiamo tape is underwelming to say the least!

    • HOUSE says:

      From tape I’ve seen, he’s susceptible to swim moves off the edge (main reason he’ll be better at G). Looks like a road grader in run blocking and keeps his feet moving while engaged.

  281. Al says:

    I know we’ve moved on from him around here but Eric Striker is still available. I’d love to take him.

  282. Donald says:

    How about Tyvis Powell, FS 4.46 / 40 considered a LB/ S hybrid. Takes Irvins place.

  283. Volume12 says:

    So about the VMAC visits.

    Ragland and Derrick Henr were smokescreens for Jarran Reed.

    Maryland’s Sean Davis was a smokescreen for DT Quinton Jefferson.

    JS and Bielema have a grear friendship and connection, hence Alex Collins.

    Seattle’s interest in Germain Ifedi and Rees Odhiambo was legit.

    And Seattle scouted Ohio St and ND more than any other teams. They scouted 1 bowl game. Fiesta Bowl between Ohio St and ND.

    There’s the Nick Vannett and CJ Prosise interest.

  284. CharlieTheUnicorn says:

    TRAVIS FEENEY, LB
    DEVON CAJUSTE, WR
    BRANDON ALLEN, QB

    • Ron Hendred says:

      Travis has too many shoulder injuries surgeries! Big red flag.. I hope Seattle dine their homework. Christian French barest option at OLB/DE/TE.

  285. Kenny Sloth says:

    I can’t say Collins looks like a world beater to me. Probably similar ceiling to Rawls. Heartbeat of the team kind of guy. Both of these guys have great balanace.

    Prosise has a much better second gear

    • bigDhawk says:

      We are absolutely loaded at RB now.

    • Sea Mode says:

      Will be interesting to hear what they say about him in the press conference.

    • Steele says:

      Agree.

      I think you have put Prosise in a separate 3rd down/change of pace half-WR category. Bevell and his bubble screens are going to have a new life.

      • H M Abdou says:

        Procise for the Harvin role?

        • HOUSE says:

          Thats what I see. Versatile chess piece that creates matchup nightmares. Who covers him a CB, LB or S?

          • Kenny Sloth says:

            Especially if you put him at FB….

          • Sea Mode says:

            Eh, I wouldn’t be so sure about that. In the press conference they did mention his versatility to be used as a weapon, but they seemed pretty set on his upside as a RB and how he was able to adapt and grow as a RB at Notre Dame this past year. Will start out as the 3rd down back and grow from there.

            • HOUSE says:

              I agree Sea Mode. I just feel his versatility and moving around creates options. With drafting Collins, Prosise is definitely the COP guy and a pass catching weapon on 3rd downs as you stated.

              I don’t know about him at FB…

            • Volume12 says:

              Exactly.

              3rd down back they’ll develop.

              But, in empty sets they’ll use his versatility. Line him up at WR, motion him into the backfield, sreens, stuff fro college playbooks.

              Not much different than what Tyler Ervin woulda been used as.

  286. Steele says:

    I hate that McGovern went to the Broncos. They got Tretola, now McG. Damn Elway.

    Titans and GB have drafts that I wish the Hawks had pulled off. Damn them too.

  287. Sea Mode says:

    Wow, I LOVE Quentin Jefferson’s highlights. I can already hear PC at the presser: “He’s a legit interior pass rusher and is only going to get better as he grows.” Hit the nail right on the head with that pick and got it done in the 5th round at that.

    Onyemata is a cool story but is MUCH more raw and unlikely to contribute much at all this year. Our guy will contribute right away.

    I dig the juke move that bobbyk pointed out. What makes it so successful I think is the way he is able to accelerate forward after it.

    And if anyone has not seen this tackle, stop what you are doing and watch it right now. 🙂 The replay afterwards from the other angle is even better. Simply one of the coolest tackles I have ever seen.
    https://youtu.be/K5EzSkFsMY8?t=101

  288. Volume12 says:

    Seattle targeted positions that don’t have be SPARQd up. Well none do, but we know Seattle likes that.

    LG/RG, RB, TE, DT. None of those need high SPARQ scores to fill in the blanks of tape.

    2 positions that usuall do? OT and OW/ATH.

    Prosise and Ifedi.

    Seahawks got a little bit unconventional, somewhat played it safe, and I love it! Got talent and steals that fell due to an injury that affected their athletic measurements.

    Usually the prospects they take in UDFA that have high SPARQ scores are the guys they take into training camp and usually keep. Not always though.

    But, what will be cool about this UDFA class coming up, IMO they’ll all be SPARQ demons, so we won’t know who they roll with. In theory anyways.

  289. CharlieTheUnicorn says:

    JAGUARS – SHAKES FIST

    • monkey says:

      Not surprising that the Jags and the Falcons have made picks that seem just so Seahawksy.
      LOVE the Falcons first round pick, Kam Chancellor version 2.0
      Those two teams (along with Oakland surprisingly) are teams on the rise, no doubt about it.

  290. Sea Mode says:

    Ha, took them 5 rounds, but the Jags finally selected an offensive player this year!

  291. nichansen01 says:

    Are Feeney and Cajuste still avaliable?

  292. Kenny Sloth says:

    Bill Burr = fighting irish?

    • Trail Hawk says:

      Bill Burr sounds like Bilbo. Bilbo was a hobbit. Hobbits traveled to Mordor. Mordor is where evil lives. “Evil will always win because good is dumb”, said Dark Helmet to Lonestar. Lonestar used the schwartz. He learned it from Yogert. Yogurt comes from dairy farms. Dairy farms make cheese…. Cheese heads… I got it, we’re trading our 215 for Aaron Rogers…

  293. CharlieTheUnicorn says:

    Allen Jack is still available

  294. Kenny Sloth says:

    10 more picks

  295. nichansen01 says:

    Buccaneers having an awful draft. Overrated Harvreaves, then a kicker in the second, and a fullback in the sixth? Are you kidding me!

    • HOUSE says:

      They drafted needs…

      If the kicker taken in the 2nd rd (third 2nd rd K in history) can contribute in the likes of S. Janikowski and J. Hanson, they’re set there. K has become such a vital part of foot (especially with the XP being moved back). They’ve set up nicely with OL, RB, WRs and their Franchise QB. They’re gunning for 3rd in they’re division. Any/all points count.

      We got LUCKY that Hauschka was cut by BAL when we picked him up. K was an issue for us at that time.

  296. HOUSE says:

    9 more picks ahead of us…

  297. Sea Mode says:

    Hey, the Rams might have gotten something decent at WR.

  298. Trevor says:

    I think the Hawks brought Ragland and Henry in for meetings to get inside info on Reed. Same as meeting with Center Henry from Boise then drafting Rees.

  299. Brandon says:

    Some of the WRs still on the board:

    Devon Cajuste
    Kenny Lawler
    Charone Peake
    Marquez North
    Keyarris Garrett

    And much more

  300. bigDhawk says:

    PC toting the rock in the war room.

  301. Volume12 says:

    Think Seattle is gonna take some form of CB, C or LB.

    QB, WR, FB in UDFA?

    One of those positions probably won’t be addressed this year. Unless they go for a veteran.

    Can’t fill all your needs or wants.

  302. Trevor says:

    I remember before the combine a ton of people were talking about the Hawks taking Collins in the 2nd or 3rd round. So to get him at the end of the 5th is great value. I guess he and CMike battle it out for that spot.

    • Sea Mode says:

      Yeah, I think everyone we have taken today could have easily been a 3rd rounder in another draft. I’m stoked and can’t wait for the next pick.

      I like Cash, Feeney, Cajuste, but they’ve probably got someone even better up their sleeve…

    • HOUSE says:

      I was mocking Collins in the 3rd rd. To take Prosise, I was a bit perplexed. To get him in the 5th, I was ECSTATIC!!!

  303. nichansen01 says:

    Best draft award goes to the jags in my opinion. Ramsey, Jack, Day, Ngakoue, Holmes, Underrated qb Brandon Allen

  304. Del tre says:

    I’m thinking they have Collins as a FB HB hybrid someone to diversify the offense because tuakafu and Coleman weren’t run threats

  305. Ignorant says:

    Lions just picked a LS.

    Geez.

  306. bigDhawk says:

    Long snappers coming off the boar in front of us. Nice

  307. icb12 says:

    I think it’s pretty cool that Baltimore drafted Keenan Reynolds with Annapolis being right down the road.

    • nichansen01 says:

      Reynolds is the Braxton Miller, Terrelle Pryor, BJ Daniels type. Seems like a cool idea but never really pans out.

  308. Sea Mode says:

    Take them long snappers!

  309. bigDhawk says:

    Think I’ve decided I want Cajuste, DeAndre Elliott, and Jack Allen for our final three picks.

  310. willyeye says:

    Alex Collins pick just got an A+ grade from Walter Football

  311. Steele says:

    I’m puzzled that the Raiders took Connor Cook. Feel bad for him. Dude has starter qualities. He’s going to get paid sitting on the bench behind D.Carr, or will be trade fodder.

  312. HOUSE says:

    49ers selected Aaron Burbridge, WR

  313. nichansen01 says:

    Mike Thomas and Pharoh Cooper will probably be the number 1 and 2 wideout in LA. Outside of Austin… Who else hoes Goff have to throw to? Kenny Britt…

    • Steele says:

      Unless they draft Kenny Lawler, reuniting him with Goff.

      Rams are going to be dangerous.

  314. CharlieTheUnicorn says:

    Joey Hunt – Center TCU ; Seahawks

  315. nichansen01 says:

    At this point I think Feeney goes undrafted.

  316. Volume12 says:

    Here comes a C.

    A guy that fits ZB perfectly.

    I’m guessing of course.

    • HOUSE says:

      Good call! I don’t know much about Hunt at all

    • nichansen01 says:

      Might be the first pick I don’t really like, however I haven’t really looked into Hunt. Cajuste and Feeney might be UDFAs at this point.
      However, the interesting thing is that it’s the second straight year we have drafted a center in the sixth.

  317. Shadow says:

    I love how the Seahawks sent out notification on the Joey Hunt selection while NFLN and ESPN were three picks behind.

  318. HOUSE says:

    With the 215th pick in the 2016 NFL Draft, the Seattle Seahawks select… Joey Hunt, C, TCU

  319. Kenny Sloth says:

    Elandon Roberts good ilb

  320. Vista says:

    ‘hawks pick is joey hunt

  321. Trail Hawk says:

    34 on BP…

  322. Volume12 says:

    There it is.

    An absolute sleeper

    One of, if not the best ZBS C in this class.

    Tried talking about him last year during the season.

    Competition at C. If he makes it great, if not, no big deal.

    He’s nasty.

    • connor says:

      Completely agree. He was one of my favorite players in the draft, pretty pumped the Seahawks took him.

      • Sea Mode says:

        “Scholar­-athlete who brings mental sharpness from classroom onto the field.” Zierlein

    • bigDhawk says:

      TCU plays one of the softest spread schemes in college football. Can’t say I like this pick, especially with a real bully like Jack allen on the board.

    • Volume12 says:

      He’s a fringe guy. You hope he pans out, but if not, he makes guys like Sokoli, Lewis, and Perciak better due to competition.

      Blocked for Boykin, so he’s used to mobile QBs, comes from a zone read option offense.

      We know Seattle likes these under-sized Cs.

      Fires off the ball, moves extremely well. He’s a dirty player IMO

      Has some Sweezy to his game that way.

      Another TC O-lineman.

      • Trevor says:

        Hunt and Nick Martin were the only 2 Centers in College football not to give up a QB hurry this past year. For everyone who wanted Jack Allen basically Hunt is smarter version of Allen with slightly better feet and hand usage but not quite Allen’s strength.

        Both guys are nasty SOBs if you want better pass pro out of your Center then Hunt is a great pick to compete with Sokoli and Lewis.

        My bet is Hunt wins the job and Lewis backs him up with Sokoli moving to Guard.

  323. sdcoug says:

    Cajuste…

    UDFA pull with Baldwin? Could be what they’re counting on

  324. Saxon says:

    Joey Hunt: Hall of Fame Hair

    • CharlieTheUnicorn says:

      nice video. very rarely see him driven backwards.

      • HOUSE says:

        The thing I noticed from the tape the most: Great eye movement and head swivel. He plays through the play. Very intriguing. As someone else stated above, brings intelligence from film room to the field. Also worth nothing… Named a Captain 2 years straight (selected by Coach)

  325. Trail Hawk says:

    Darius Jackson and ZEKE? crazy

    • Trail Hawk says:

      I think the Cowboys are going to run the ball.

      • CharlieTheUnicorn says:

        I like both picks down the road, but they have some problems this year

        • Trail Hawk says:

          I think they are absolutely nailing this. Covering all our needs with excellent picks. They look for guys with the traits/talents that fit what they want. Might not be the guys we like or talk about and that’s what I love about this. They have a lot more information on theses guys than we do. They fit their profile, not anyone else’s.

          Cant wait to see our next pick.

  326. Lewis says:

    There goes Feeney

  327. Trail Hawk says:

    Feeney is a good fit for PIT

  328. Nate says:

    Dang it Feeny nabbed by the Steelers

  329. sdcoug says:

    Is Boykin next? Hmmm

  330. Volume12 says:

    If Feeney goes undrafted, he’ll pick Oakland or Seattle.

    I think Seattle’s last pick will a CB or a Christian French type guy.

  331. KD says:

    per @PFF_College:
    Joey Hunt led nation with 99.5 pass blocking efficiency allowing zero sacks and only three hurries

    • Greg Haugsven says:

      Nice star KD. It’s nice to get some info, he seems to small for our center but the obviously like something.

      • sdcoug says:

        Stats I’m seeing naturally vary a bit, but not too dissimilar

        Unger: 6’5″, 305
        Hunt:6’3″, 295

      • HOUSE says:

        He’s 6’1-7/8″/301lbs. Patrick Lewis is 6’1″/305lbs

        • nichansen01 says:

          I’ve seen him listed at 6’3!

          • HOUSE says:

            He just did an interview. NFL.com had him listed at 6’0″ and he was listed elsewhere @ 6’3″. He confirmed at his pro-day he was measured a tick under 6’2″

  332. Nathan says:

    Mel Kiper at the salad bar is the worst thing I’ve ever seen.

  333. Volume12 says:

    We might like Feeney, Cajuste, but maybe Seattle doesn’t.

    Hunt is dirty man.

    Comes from an offense with a QB that plays like RW. Always moving, hard to block for.

    Hunt might not be the name Jack Allen is, but he fits Seattle better.

    • CharlieTheUnicorn says:

      Hunt is technically sound, no training required. Grit and determined…… back-up center at worst, but could push for starting spot from day 1.

  334. Steele says:

    Glad they took a center, but would have preferred Jack Allen

    Hunt is interesting. Undersized. A lot of technical things to fix, but good attitude, smart.

    Here is an old article that suggests he is a good leader.

    http://footballmatters.org/hunt-tcu-continue-to-silence-the-doubters/

    A Colts -oriented scouting reportt

    http://forums.colts.com/topic/43693-scouting-notes-tcu-c-joey-hunt/

    Well. At least he is a center, maybe competes.

  335. Old but Slow says:

    Watched Hunt against Minnesota, and he looked good. His snaps are fast and accurate, hits the QB’s hands, and he gets out of his stance quickly, walls off blockers, does not get pushed back, and gets to the second level a lot. Nice pick.

    • CharlieTheUnicorn says:

      Something I noticed, he really fired off the snap of the ball.. he was in his stance before the other OL next to him….. always about 0.10 sec earlier…. very rarely see him get driven back and is sticky to DTs.

    • monkey says:

      OBS you posting here? Nice! I didn’t know you’d seen Hunt, you should tell people over at the Shack what you know.

  336. reggieregg says:

    Why did we waste #97 on a guy he doesn’t even project to start over THE BUM aka Britt? What happened to McGovern dahl Vuitui…. I’m disappointed!

    • Volume12 says:

      Probably didn’t have the character they like.

      Odhiambo will battle.

      He’s a coaches player. Will do anything ya ask him, won’t mind being a backup if that’s the case.

      Maybe he’s our new Alvin Bailey.

      Nothing wrong with that.

      • Steele says:

        Well, what’s potentially wrong with that is that Rees was taken so high. Projected to be rd. 5/6. And he’s injured and injury prone.

        You want a potential starter with a pick there. Not a depth guy. And it should be someone better than Bailey.

        Just have to hope they transform him.

        • Volume12 says:

          He is a potential starter. I’m talking about his floor.

          The only reason he was projected low was due to his injury.

          Injuries don’t scare Seattle.

          He’s a 2nd round-early 3 round type talent.

          Dahl, Haeg, McGovern I likee too. But, just because they weren t hurt or were the more popular name wasn’t gonna guarantee them a starting gig anyways.

        • GeoffU says:

          Projected by whom? Draft pundits…?

        • Alicamousa says:

          Projected by who? We’ve seen all draft that the media have absolutely no idea what’s going on, remember when Vadal Alexander was a first-rounder?

          Totally possible that teams had a much higher grade on Odhiambo so the Hawks did what they had to do to go get him. If he beats Britt out then good. If he doesn’t, that means Britt is improving which is also good.

    • Steele says:

      I don’t disagree about that one, reggie. Would have preferred McG/Dahl/Haeg/Vitai/Boehm there.

      They obviously think Rees O has been underrated.

      Only Cable knows.

      • John_s says:

        Count me in. Rees never finished a full college season. No reason to believe that he will in the pros.

        There were better candidates than Rees

        • Sea Mode says:

          “No reason to believe that he will in the pros.”

          Well, if the Seahawks’ advanced medical staff and front office with millions of dollars and dozens of full-time professional scouts at their disposal thinks he can be healthy enough in the pros to make him worth the pick, I’m certainly not going to be making emphatic statements about his health and fit on the team based on nothing more than my outsider fan knowledge.

    • Greg Haugsven says:

      That’s picks for here though not the Seahawks pool of players. Anyways Ifedi probably starts over Britt anyways. Rees will compete with Glow

  337. Volume12 says:

    I think you guys will like Joey Hunt when ya watch him.

    He’s a character.

    Gives us that JR Sweezy attitude we lost this off-season.

    Great pass protector, squares his targets up on the move, extremely strong. Very fluid. He’s a natural ‘mover.’

    Again, might be the best ZB C available.

    Seattle scouted TCU hard this summner during TCUs mini camp.

    Now we know why.

    • sdcoug says:

      What I liked from his tape is he doesn’t stop blocking or moving; important as Boykin and Russ are always moving. Also turns defenders shoulders well

  338. Sea Mode says:

    Joey Hunt: 6016, 299, 30.25″ arm, 9.875″ hand, 5.27 40yd, 34 bench

    Joey Hunt, TCU
    Hunt is very undersized at 6-2, 295 pounds and he’ll certainly be scheme-limited. That being said, Hunt is arguably the best pass protector in this class, adeptly mirroring inside rushers and having just enough to hold up versus bull rushes. He yielded 10 total pressures over the last two seasons. In the run game though he’s much more of a controller than anything else. Some of that was TCU’s scheme and some of that is Hunt not having the brute strength to move defensive tackles. If he can go to an outside zone heavy team, Hunt can be effective.
    -MIKE RENNER, PFF

  339. Steele says:

    With the rest of the draft, there are some good guys still left.

    Alex McCalister-edge

    Erik Striker-LB

    Cajuste, Key Garrett, Kenny Lawler, D’Runya Wilson, Paul McRoberts- WR

    Wouldn’t mind them taking a good slot nickelback down here.

  340. nichansen01 says:

    Joey Hunt has more size than Allen, which might have been very important to the Seahawks. They prefer bigger centers. I said I didn’t like the pick before I looked into him. I like it now… Definetly a solid sleeper.

  341. Mark J says:

    7th round run on WRs in progress.

  342. C-Dog says:

    Joey Hunt is an interesting selection, smart kid, great in pass pro, moves well. Very interesting Seattle now has two shorter centers. Could be a signal that with a pint sized QB, they are adjusting to a more squatty players there. They’ve been listing Sokoli as a guard/center on the website for a while. Maybe they want to give him a chance to compete at guard more this year.

  343. bigDhawk says:

    Only two defensive picks for us so far this draft, both DL.

    • HOUSE says:

      Defensive line was our BIGGEST need.

      We have several players coming back from injury in Secondary (Smith, Seisay and Simon), LB Corps is getting Pinkins back as well as Cassius Marsh moving to LB

  344. Nate says:

    Even with a run on receivers there will be a lot of good udfa available this year. If we could pick up Paul McRoberts I would be stoked.

    • Steele says:

      It seems every draft, WRs and RBs are plentiful low rounds and UDFA. You can almost get away with avoiding those positions, except for star quality types.

  345. CharlieTheUnicorn says:

    I’m kind of shocked Cajuste is still available in the 7th

  346. Volume12 says:

    If Sokoli is the future C, we needed a backup, because Lewis might not be back next year.

    Wouldn’t surprisr me if Hunt was in competition to start, but if not, ya develop him.

    Seatt built like hihinhim.

    • C-Dog says:

      Also, interesting to note they haven’t fully committed to listing Sokoli at center on their website. He’s been listed as a center/guard. Hunt probably spells the likelihood they might not spend too much time experimenting there.

  347. icb12 says:

    I’m confused on guys thinking hunt is small?

    Hes 6’2″, 300#

    Lewis is 6’1″ #305..

    Unger was 6’5″ so I guess that’s where it’s coming from?? Still 305#
    Nowak is 6’3″ #300.

    I think his size is fine.

    • HOUSE says:

      He just did a radio interview and he confirmed he’s 6’1-7/8″/301lbs… He’s limited to playing center and thats what he was drafted for. Instant competition

    • C-Dog says:

      I think it could mean that a possible shift to a shorter player at the position to benefit Wilson. NO used shorter interior lineman for Brees, ironically being Unger playing there now.

      • HOUSE says:

        I wouldn’t doubt it… A minor tweak (2 inches in height” that could vastly improve overall play). Another thing to look at is guys like Aaron Donald that are becoming dominant DL as well. Near 6′ and pack a punch. Hunt is shorter than the likes of Unger and similar weight = better anchoring

  348. Trevor says:

    Pete thinks he is back at USC with his full stable of RBs love it.

  349. nichansen01 says:

    No! Feeney went to the Steelers

  350. Sea Mode says:

    Joey Hunt likes BBQ turkey??? Here’s a little interview (not much really), but at least to get a look at him:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gqcU1jJAmk

    Says he loves football, favorite place to be is the football stadium. Is thinking of going into coaching, so he majored in business thinking it would help him with that in some way.

    Guess we went for smarts with this one.

  351. nichansen01 says:

    So we still have two picks in the seventh?

  352. Haystacker509 says:

    Is Dom Williams still available? Udfa perhaps?!

  353. Ron Hendred says:

    Best edge rusher is Christian French. 6’5 249 led Oregon in sacks 2014 minor injury last year but still had 3 sacks, 29 tackles, 7 QBH, missing 5 games. He will be brought in as HPFA and make the team.

  354. C-Dog says:

    Cajuste, Kenny Lawler, Jay Lee still on board, if they want to add a bigger WR.

    Liam Nadler, Vernon Adams on board for QB.

    Mike Jordan is a big corner.

    Scooby Wright, Eric Striker there at LB. Joe Walker for Oregon is a fast cover backer, plus there’s Christian French.

    Glenn Gronkowski, and Devon Johnson there at FB

    Thinking the last pick could be FB, Big WR, QB, LB, or possibly DB.

  355. sdcoug says:

    He’d beat out one of those Husky WRs we cling to

  356. Trevor says:

    My early prediction for OL

    -They give Rees a red shirt year to get 100% healthy and be a great LG in year #2
    -Ifedi will win the RT job moving Webb to LG where he beats out Britt
    -Hunt wins the starting spot from Lewis and Sokoli gets moved to Guard.

    It is going to be a battle in training camp with lots of competition. I just hope they pick a group early and let them gel.

    2016

    LT Gilliam LG Webb C Hunt RG Glowinski RT Ifedi
    Bench- Sowell, Britt, Rees, Sokoli, Lewis

    2017

    LT Gilliam LG Rees C Hunt RG Glowinski RT Ifedi
    Bench Webb, Sokoli, Rookie, Rookie

  357. HawkBrewer(d) says:

    I think the Jags are about to field a top ten D, which should become a top 5 D by 2017. I believe this team will be scary. Hawks will still be better, obviously

  358. Samuel Baratheon says:

    Okay I definitely feel better about the Joey Hunt selection after watching the tape. Has athleticism and the man can pass block. Considering he is an actual Center and not DL convert or Guard/Tackle moved to Center, he could actually compete for a starter spot this year. Think about it, he’s already use to making Center calls/adjustments and snapping, plus he played in a zbs. It’ll be interesting to see how he transitions because even though he is smaller @ 295lbs, if you fit him in between Mad Dog Glowinski and either J Webb @ 6-7 330 or Ifedi @ 6-6 330, you could somewhat mask his weight.

    Considering they actually started Nowak last year, I figure they might give him a shot.

    Go Hawks!

  359. bigDhawk says:

    Here’s a video of Hunt vs Nkemdiche and Ole Miss

    https://youtu.be/Cpiuhvpvxas

    • JimQ says:

      Hunt isn’t really VERY undersized, slightly shorter than average maybe & guys that size can put on 5-lbs in one meal. Size for Hunt is no problem.
      Average OC 6′-3.32″, with 1.10″ standard deviation 302.95-lbs, with 9.16-lbs. standard deviation
      per: http://www.mockdraftable.com/position/7/

    • Samuel Baratheon says:

      Wow that makes me feel even better than I did a few minutes ago!

      • HOUSE says:

        Him being sub 6’2″ (by an 1/8″) isn’t a huge deal at all. He does have shorter arms, but plays with great anchor and leverage. I’m excited to see what he does

        • Samuel Baratheon says:

          Come to think of it, the shorter height could actually benefit Russell’s QB vision up the middle haha.

  360. Veryal says:

    Vernon Adams, Charone Peake, Scooby Wright, and Jeremy Cash are the guys I want

  361. Nathan says:

    Eric Striker in the 7th?

  362. Kenny Sloth says:

    I had OT from TCU and C from BSU

    We went BSU OT and TCU Center

  363. Volume12 says:

    Joey Hunt was originally a DT at TCU.

    They took another guy who’s injury affected his measurables.

    Brock Huard said he’s a squattier Max Unger.

    Perfect for a shotgun offense. A natural C. His abililty to make the right reads and calls is very good.

    Seattle went with good tape this draft. It’s what a lot of peope on here wanted right?

    Seahawks killed this draft!

  364. C-Dog says:

    Kenny Lawler. NICE PICK UP. Reminds me of Sidney Rice.

  365. bigDhawk says:

    Here we go…

  366. bigDhawk says:

    Oooohhh Lawler! Nice! We’ve forgotten about him. Great pick actually.

  367. Trevor says:

    Love the Lawler pick!!!!

    Now I bet we take Robby Anderson from Temple as a WR / DB convert.

  368. Volume12 says:

    There’s the WR.

    I like it.

    Rob is a big fan of this guy as am I.

    I absolutel love Cal WRs!

    NFL ready.

    Lawler make big time catches, wears XXXL gloves, and just oozes confidence bordering o
    Wow! big time

    • bigDhawk says:

      Surprise the Ewes didn’t take him for teammate Goff.

    • Trevor says:

      You finally got your Cal receiver Vol!!! He was my favourite of the group and has made some of the toughest catches you will ever see. Love the pick and I would be shocked if he did not make the squad.

    • Volume12 says:

      * bordering on cocky.

      All this guy does is make big time catches in critical moments.

      He’s an acrobat at the receiver position.

      • sdcoug says:

        He is cocky. He was almost a Coug. He really liked the recruiting limelight.

        • Coug1990 says:

          I remember that. His tweets were getting annoying how he was begging for attention from different fan bases. I am sure he has matured.

    • C-Dog says:

      Pure Red Zone Target. Tom Cable likes to say, we run to win, throw to score TDs.

  369. JamesP says:

    Taller Jermaine Kearse just drafted. Great pick.

  370. Old but Slow says:

    Cajuste seems like such a beast, it is amazing that he is still available. What don’t we know?

    • monkey says:

      Good question OBS.
      Though Cajuste may be a little redundant with Vannett on the team.

  371. nichansen01 says:

    Kenny Lawler? Yes!

  372. C-Dog says:

    QB, FB, or LB with the next pick, me thinks.

  373. nichansen01 says:

    We’ve really gone all out on offense in this draft.

  374. Forrest says:

    Would have preferred Cajusge, but he might be a UDFA. I like Lawler.

  375. Trevor says:

    I am loving this draft! You never know till they all show up at camp and we see them in live action but this seems like the Hawks best draft since 2012 to me. I think there are going to be at least 6 guys make the squad and 4 will be big time contributors.

    • Volume12 says:

      IMO the only guys that might not make it are Brooks and Hunt.

      But, I kinda doubt Hunt gets cut.

      • Hughz says:

        It will be tough for Lawler to make it at WR. He’ll have to beat out the Washington crew.

  376. GeoffU says:

    Lawler: Touchdown maker at Cal scoring once every 5.3 receptions.

  377. Steele says:

    There it is. Kenny Lawler. Would have preferred Cajuste, but he is a target possession WR with a bit of speed. Touchdown maker.

    Really want the Chris Matthews project to be put back in place for good, but I guess not really. Lawler is more conventionally sized at 6-2

  378. HOUSE says:

    Final Pick… Zac Brooks, RB Clemson

  379. bigDhawk says:

    Another RB at 247. Wow. Ok. Well, get those phones fired up.

  380. Troy says:

    Hawks draft another RB are you shitting ME?!?!?

  381. Greg Haugsven says:

    Cajuste could still be UDFA here

    • amocat says:

      Wouldn’t that be the most Seahawky way to get the job though? Come in UDFA and beat the drafted guy?

  382. Trevor says:

    Our offense is loaded at all the skill postions. We have never had this kind of depth on offense. Love what they have done with spending big bucks to keep stars on defense then using the draft to build the offense.

  383. Volume12 says:

    This Zac Brooks pick is a head-scratcher to me.

    I don’t get this one.

    Don’t get me wrong. He’s a very good RB, who was guess what, affected by injuries.

    Interesting.

    I always knew that if Seattle didn’t draft a DB early, they wouldn’t at all.

  384. Forrest says:

    Another RB?!?! Ok that’s just overkill. Which one is gonna be the FB?

  385. KD says:

    Pete is not messing around with these running backs!

  386. Greg Haugsven says:

    Running back factory

  387. Kenny Sloth says:

    Amother RB what’s good

  388. CharlieTheUnicorn says:

    Time to tear up mock draft

    *rips paper to shreds*

  389. Sea Mode says:

    Wow, get ready for some serious competition!

  390. Trevor says:

    Serious Pete thinks he is still at USC what the heck are we going to do with all these RBs. I like the guys they took but where are they all going to fit on the roster. CMike must be a little nervous today.

    Is it possible Rawls rehab is not going as well as we were led to believe.

  391. Old but Slow says:

    I was surprised when they took a second RB, but now a third? Always compete!

  392. bigDhawk says:

    Cajuste, Elliott, Cash, Striker…some of my UDFA targets.

  393. C-Dog says:

    Zac Brooks, not messing around at RB this year.. at all.

    Not drafted, QB, FB, Edge, LB, CB, or Safety.

    Eight players to the offense.

    Two for the defense, both interior DL. IMO, Reed and Jefferson where all they really needed on that side of the ball, inside disruption against the run and pass.

    OUTSTANDING DRAFT.

  394. Trevor says:

    Now the magician Pete gets to work his magic on the phone and nab us some UDFAs. Still some great talent out there.

  395. Volume12 says:

    They’re gonna go LB in UDFA. Probaby a few to battle it out. Keep one.

  396. Sea Mode says:

    Congrats to everybody on an AWESOME draft!

    Here’s to keeping it going in UDFA! Lots of good players still left out there. I’ll take Jeremy Cash and Devon Johnson to start out with. Keep the bully trend going strong.

  397. Brandon says:

    I’m confused with the last pick, but not mad. I think JS and PC have proven more than enough that we should just let them do what they are planning. Not on this site, but pretty much everywhere else, I’m laughing at all the fans that are complaining and saying they could do a better job drafting themselves.

    • bigDhawk says:

      This is maybe a kneejerk reaction to getting down to only CMike and FJack at RB late last year.

    • C-Dog says:

      Zac Brooks is another player to be a pass catcher type out of the backfield, possibly bubble screen type.

    • GeoffU says:

      It’s the end of the 7th round (which is really the 8th round nowadays with all the comp picks) so…

      • Volume12 says:

        Kind of a throw away pick if you will.

        C-Mike and Brooks are gonna battle it out for that 4th RB spot.

        Seattle will carry 4 RBs this year IMO.

  398. bigDhawk says:

    Scooby the the Brownies.

  399. bigDhawk says:

    Cajuste better not be MR Irrelevant to the Titans…

  400. Volume12 says:

    Watch Cajuste.

    He doesn’t win at the LOS. Very slow off it.

  401. Veryal says:

    Lots of talent available in UDFA. Go Hawks!!! It’s been a pleasure guys

  402. GeoffU says:

    Preseason games are going to be nothing but hand offs.

  403. bigDhawk says:

    Sweet! Cajuste and Elliott are UDFAs. Go getm JS.

  404. Trevor says:

    We have so much developmental depth at DB I knew they would not take one this year. I am guessing they will target a Safety in UDFA.

  405. Volume12 says:

    Zac Brooks and Joey Hunt were both VMAC visitors.

  406. Old but Slow says:

    Some of these guys are going to have to show something on special teams. The UDFA crop could be amazing. It should not be difficult to attract free agents: beautiful city, great facilities, and a history of free agents making the team. Come here guys, we will let you have a chance.

  407. GeoffU says:

    QB’s still available : Vernon Adams, Trevone Boykin, Liam Nadler

  408. bigDhawk says:

    All our picks give great interviews. Very well spoken, level-headed bunch.

  409. C-Dog says:

    UDFAs might be Liam Nadler, Vernon Adams, QBs; Cajuste, Mickens, WR; Glenn Gronkowski, Devon Johnson, Tre Madden FB; Jack Allen, Alex Redmond, Tyler Johnstone OL; Destiny Vaeao, James Coweser, Cory Johnson, Shawn Oakman, Nile Lawrence-Stample DL; Eric Striker, Cory Littleton, Christian French LB; Mike Jordan, Jeremy Cash, Tevin Carter, Nick Vanhoose DBs.

  410. Haystacker509 says:

    Is anyone else kinda puzzled by the 49ers first 3-4 picks? Cards are looking scary on paper and the Rams… Well we’ll play them tough but not worried overall.

  411. bobbyk says:

    One thing I don’t think anything is critically thinking about is that if we didn’t draft Brooks at the end of the draft… do we think he would have signed with us as an UFA? I doubt it with our already having taken two backs and Rawls on the roster. If it were us, would we want to sign with a team that already stocked up on people at our position, or would we have gone someplace else?

    Think of all the UFA linebackers and DBs. They all know the Seahawks took nobody at their positions. They have a decent shot to make the team, especially with the teams track record of giving UFAs a chance.

    The LB or DB we would have drafted is still probably going to be available for us to sign, whereas any RBs would think twice going to a team that took a couple of RBs already (especially when one of the holdovers is a guy who could have won rookie of the year last year if he hadn’t gotten hurt).

    • Steele says:

      The real question is why they took another RB at all. It looks like overkill.

      Now Brooks does have a Lynch style to him. Did JSPC see ghosts and took him just because they wanted two guys with that look, Collins and Brooks?

  412. Volume12 says:

    Keep an eye on Ohio St S Tyvis Powell, Duke S/LB Jeremy Cash, Oregon LB Christian French, Rutgers LB Steve Longa, Baylor WR Jay Lee to , and that and that group of Marshall players that Seattle worked out.

  413. GeoffU says:

    Now that I warmed up to Vannett being a compliment to Graham, and learned more about Odhiambo, I’m really loving this draft.

  414. HOUSE says:

    Short Synopsis on our drafted players:
    Germain Ifedi, OT, Texas A&M: (STARTING RT) Has length, athleticism and seems like a great kid. Competitive spirit and is dubbed “The Ass-kicker”. When you hear a kid say, “I like to win. I like to compete” it makes you feel confident!

    Jarran Reed, DT, Alabama: (STARTING DT) Versatile. #1 Run stuffer in the draft this year. Not a pass rusher, but eats double teams for breakfast. Could be a better version of Mebane.

    C.J. Prosise, RB/OW, Notre Dame: (3RD DOWN RB) Swiss Army knife. Converted to RB from WR a year ago. COP back and can line up at WR. Mold of Fred Jackson type player

    Nick Vannett, TE, Ohio State: (TE DEPTH) I hear ceiling of “Baby Gronk”, I see as Zach Miller replacement. Great blocking skills with good receiving hands.

    Rees Odhiambo, OL, Boise State: (OG DEPTH) 3 year starting LT, but had injury plagued career. Roster depth and could compete for LG position in future. Road grader in run blocking.

    Quinton Jefferson, DT, Maryland: (3RD DOWN DT) Great pass rush ability. Gets to the QB and bats passes. 3rd down situational rusher. Stays fresh and helps get the defense off the field.

    Alex Collins, RB, Arkansas: (#2 RB) One cut RB; nimble feet, very physical and sheds tackles. True backup to Rawls and has pass catching abilities. Had some ball security issues and will definitely need to protect the ball.

    Joey Hunt, C, TCU: (CENTER COMPETITION) 3 year starter with a High football IQ. Consistent anchor and has ideal strength/foot movement. Brings competition to the C spot w/ Lewis, Sokoli and others…

    Kenny Lawler, WR, California (WR DEPTH/ST): Very athletic, lengthy and possesses good body control. Does not have top-end speed to be a burner, but good speed to expose holes.

    Zac Brooks, RB, Clemson (RB DEPTH): 6’0”/201lbs ran a 4.32 & a 36” at his Pro Day. Had a season ending injury in 2014 and was a #2 RB in 2015. He is hungry for the opportunity and we embrace competition.

  415. Ignorant says:

    #31 OT/OG Germain Ifedi B+
    #49 DT Jarran Reed B+
    #90 HB/WR CJ Prosise A-
    #94 TE Nick Vannett C
    #97 OT/OG Odhiambo Rees C-
    #149 DT/DE Quinton Jefferson B
    #171 RB Alex Collins A-
    #215 C Joey Hunt – not enough information
    #243 WR Kenny Lawler B+
    #247 Zac Brooks – not enough information.

    • lil'stink says:

      A ‘C’ for Vannett? I think solid TE blocking is something our run game has been sorely missing since Miller went out in 2014. I think he will have a bigger impact than people might realize just from this standpoint alone. Could be a great safety valve for Wilson as well in the passing game. Plus, maybe it means they will wise up and stop using Graham as a blocker.

      • Steele says:

        Vannett was a good pick. They need a blocking TE. And I think his receiving will improve as a pro.

      • Jarhead's Sokoli Bandwagon says:

        Didn’t Urban Meyer himself say when the pick was made, that he is more of a Move TE and he has to work on his blocking? Where is everyone getting this idea that he is going to be like Zach Miller?

  416. chet380 says:

    Rob S —

    A head-scratcher of a draft for most of the posters here and I am certain, for you (only Lawler and Brooks).

    It would appear that JS/PC use measurables that are undecipherable to the average well-informed fans and even to those who put a great deal of time and effort into seriously studying players’ performances and trends, such as yourself.

    In any event, the draft seems to have produced some promising prospects and your posts have provided months of enjoyment — thank you for your efforts.

    • Steele says:

      I am looking forward to Rob’s analysis.

      I don’t think Rob was that far off at all. He called it for Ifedi. Reed, Prosise, Collins were considerations in here as well.

      What I want to know is why they passed on McGovern/Dahl/Haeg. And Nick Martin, Shon Coleman, etc. etc.

  417. nichansen01 says:

    Carroll wanted a true stable of running backs, and that is what we got.

    Rawls
    Michaels
    Prosise
    Collins
    Brooks
    Ruffin

    Wow.

  418. Dawgma says:

    The only thing I don’t get is…where are the athletes? Everybody in this class outside of Ifedi is completely ‘meh’ and just doesn’t seem to have that ‘special’ athletic trait or characteristic that they’ve chased in the past (Reed is a top tier run plugger I guess, but very average athletically which was the whole knock on him with a limited ceiling). It seems like their draft philosophy completely changed overnight. In some ways that’s a good thing (I notice the OL they selected in the mid-range can actually freaking pass block a little). In others I just don’t get the change at all.

    • Nathan says:

      Did you check zac brooks numbers?

    • Volume12 says:

      What’s not to get?

      Jefferson, Hunt, Collins, Vannett, Odhiambo. All of their athletic measurements were affected by injury.

      Seattle hae to get unconventional. The rest of the league is on to them.

      Prosise is an amazing athlete.

      They focused on positions that don’t need great SPARQ scores. LG, TE, RB, DT, and a red zone WR.

      These prospects all check off the battled adversity, got heart, higy character or just plain characters with chips on their shoulders.

      Seattle has a ton of freak athletes. They needed to get back to being the bully and setting the tone early.

      They also want to win on 3rd downs. They accomplished that too. Pass catching RBs, run blocking OL, and the best Y tight end in the draft.

      • Greg Haugsven says:

        I agree v12, John said we need to get back to being the bully. Minus Prosise (which I like the pick) they are all bullies.

        • Steele says:

          They could have picked the ones who were both athletes and bullies. They passed on a lot of these.

          I don’t we should necessarily love all of the picks just because they made them.

          We’ll have to see how they turn out.

    • bobbyk says:

      Prosise is UNIQUE. I’m going to love watching how they use him and the routes he’s going to run out of the backfield.

    • C-Dog says:

      Reed is a bit more athletic than what you might think, IMO. He was a converted LB from Junior College. Alabama asks their DLs to two gab and not get upfield, which makes them difficult to scout. He’s more explosive than Robinson. I think he can get upfield and disrupt, you should check out what he did at the Senior Bowl.

  419. Volume12 says:

    Seahawks add W. Kentucky LB Nick Holt.

  420. bjammin says:

    Christian French – lb. Signed ufa

  421. bjammin says:

    DT Brandin Bryant = rufa

    • Volume12 says:

      Yes!

      That’s my guy.

      Some of the best tape you’ll see from a DT all year.

      Knew they’d like him. How could you not?

  422. willyb14 says:

    Rob-

    I come to your site every day to read about hopeful future Hawks. I never post just but read everyone’s comments and the information you all provide. Thanks so much for your hard work and passion for the draft!! Your effort every year makes the off-season go by faster for us fans! THANK YOU!!!!!

  423. Kenny Sloth says:

    Sorry to throw cold water on all these picks. Shotgun theory in full effect in the backfield.

    Zac Brooks is our smallest RB and my least favorite pick

    • lil'stink says:

      3 RB’s puts CMike on notice, though. Brooks wouldn’t sign here as an UDFA, probably why they went with him in the 7th.

    • LantermanC says:

      Don’t forget constantly injured, and no production. 800 total yards in his college career, including receiving yards. He also received fewer carries the older he got, from 6 a game to 2.
      http://www.foxsports.com/college-football/zac-brooks-player-stats

      Thought maybe he was a FB type, but as you said, too small.

      • Coug1990 says:

        Former Seahawk draft pick Spencer Ware was a backup at LSU. He turned out to be an OK NFL back.

    • Alicamousa says:

      4.32 40, 36″ vert, at 200 pounds right? Serious wheels, and some pop with it.

      Let’s see what he can do in camp.

    • C-Dog says:

      Total athlete. Signals that they want variety in the backfield. I’d expect the RBs to start factoring more in the passing game now with and CJ.

    • David says:

      I get why they chose each of the backs.

      Prosise, the typical 3rd down back. Replaces Fred Jackson. Can catch passes out of the backfield, flex out as WR etc. has the body type to block on 3rd down, if not the experience.

      Collins, the 1st and 2nd down back bruiser. Can back-up Rawls, competition for CMike. Probably him and CMike both don’t make the team.

      Brooks is the Swiss Army knife type player that a lot of people were expecting from Ervin. Not an every down back but a space playmaker, sweeps, screens, etc. essentially fills Harvins role in the playbook – I don’t see Prosise being that guy. This guy repeatedly ran a 4.32 in his playmaker so they must be enamored with his potential there.

  424. Trail Hawk says:

    Eric Striker to the Bills

  425. Trail Hawk says:

    Jeremy Cash to the Saints

  426. TannerM says:

    Loading up on linebackers for UDFA/roster invites. David Perkins out of Illinois St just added.

  427. Kenny Sloth says:

    North Alabama CB Darvell Harris signs

  428. Steele says:

    What the…another RB???

    Zac Brooks is so under the radar that nfl.com doesn’t have a profile page.

    You know what? This #24 with the hair reminds me of a Beastly #24 we know.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmAfiVvKkaA

    • GeoffU says:

      That wide lower body stance is very similar to Marshawn’s. And the way he seems to hop around.

  429. Volume12 says:

    North Alabama CB Darvell Harris and EDGE David Perkins from Illinois St., formely of Ohio St are added as UDFAs.

    Perkins can rush the passer man.

    Seattle wanted North Dakota’s Drew Iddings as an O-lineman. Went to NO.

    Cajuste went to SF

  430. TannerM says:

    George Fant signed.

    • Kenny Sloth says:

      TE or OL?

      • TannerM says:

        It says Western Kentucky TE… but since his profile matches that of a whole bunch of other Seahawk o-line projects, I’d venture to say OL.

      • monkey says:

        Good question, and since he comps almost perfectly with Garry Gilliam, I’d say he’s the next O-line conversion project.

  431. Volume12 says:

    I love LB Christian French.

    IMO he’s gonnba be our next UDFA stud.

    Apparently this is the guy PC/JS were hoping went undrafted. They’re intrigued with his upside.

  432. Kenny Sloth says:

    Love Big Van, GI, CJP, Jarran Reed, Collins, Q Jefferson, Lawler

    Not sold on Odhi, Hunt,

    Just didn’t like Brooks skillset plus injury history

    • Volume12 says:

      Haha.

      Now you don’t like Odhiambo?

    • C-Dog says:

      I might be in the minority on this one, but I’m actually pretty excited about Hunt. Former DL who converted to Center in college. Smart as a whip, technically sound, athletic. He could be a dark horse in training camp to earn the starting center job, I think.

  433. TannerM says:

    And Deandre Elliott

  434. icb12 says:

    I can’t get excited about Lawler or Brooks.

    Lawler is a bean pole. And a slow one at that. Watched him drop way too many easy catches.

  435. Kenny Sloth says:

    Colorado State-Pueblo WR Deontrae Cooper tweets “Seattle it is.”

  436. Kenny Sloth says:

    Wasn’t a fan of Elliott’s, but good call Rob, Vol

  437. TannerM says:

    What? We drafted three running backs? Why not add a fourth in undrafted free agency. Tre Madden, come on down!

  438. SeventiesHawksFan says:

    Apparently we’re still a run first team. And committed to stopping the run. And being the physically more imposing team just in general.

    I wonder how much the second Rams game where our win streak got snapped and we were clearly the team getting pushed around and physically man handled, plus the two playoff games where we really were no better from a physical tough standpoint resonated with JS and PC? I think an awful lot. This draft seems pretty clearly all about never getting physically dominated again, while also addressing holes on the roster. All of those major holes were filled with stronger players over fast or even the most ‘explosive’ athletes available, though I’m sure at least SUFFICIENT ENOUGH explosiveness was factored in.

    And we have also a franchise QB to protect. Through running the ball and up front.

    Really am just very pleased with this draft. At least five players are going to be meaningful contributors. And we got stronger and younger while addressing needs and roster deficiencies. That’s just outstanding.

  439. Volume12 says:

    RB!

    USCs Tre’ Madden.

    Another guy who had injuries.

    Have I said Seattle isn’t scared of those?

    • Trail Hawk says:

      They knew they we’re getting these guy. Maybe that’s why they said they need to get healthy 🙂

  440. Trail Hawk says:

    Zac Brooks ran a 4.49 40y with a 1.52 10y. A vertical of 36 and a broad jump at 10-9.

    Sounds pretty explosive.

  441. TannerM says:

    Boykin just tweeted about joining the Seahawks.

  442. GeoffU says:

    Hunt vs Nkemdiche, a glimpse of the future

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cpiuhvpvxas&feature=youtu.be

  443. TannerM says:

    And Steve Longa, too. Good call, Vol 12.

    • Beanhawk says:

      Seeing that Rob is overworked, can I nominate Vol, Kenny, or whoever to do a quick guest post on some of these late round/UDFA guys in the coming week or so?

      You guys have all made this draft time so much fun! Thanks guys and gals.

    • Volume12 says:

      Oh wow!

      How dope is that?

      He’s a mix of KPL and Coyle.

      Just makes plays.

      Another throwback or old school kind of prospect in Longa.

  444. Trail Hawk says:

    Don’t understand the complaints, We absolutely nailed this draft. The guys they got fill the needs we have with the traits PC/JS want. Loving it!

    • Steele says:

      I still think they could have done even better. Don’t agree with some of the prioritizing.

      Needs were filled.

  445. Volume12 says:

    I can’t believe this.

    Seattle just knocked this draft outta the park, and now this UDFA class on top of it?

    It’s loaded!

    Fant, French, Bryant, Madden, Elliott, Perkins, and now we add the perfect backup QB in Trevon Boykin?

    • GeoffU says:

      I wonder how much the Hunt pick had to do with Boykin’s decision?

    • Kenny Sloth says:

      Nice! Congrats on the 4+ hit list Vol

    • Kenny Sloth says:

      As a community we had

      Ifedi
      Vannett
      Prosise
      Ohdiambo
      Lawler
      French
      Elliott
      Bryant

      That’s damn good (half were from Vol)

    • bigDhawk says:

      I’m stoked about Boykin. He is going to tear up the preseason. Might make TJack expendable.

    • Jarhead's Sokoli Bandwagon says:

      Wow, I must have been watching the wrong tape. Boykin hasn’t displayed any ability to do anything but run on tape. He can’t make an NFL pass. I was skeptical that he even makes the team…

  446. TannerM says:

    Damn, Vol 12. You got another one: Tyvis Powell.

  447. Beanhawk says:

    Tyvis Powell and Steve Longa now as well, Vol.

  448. Kenny Sloth says:

    Schneider told the media on Friday that “Tom (Cable) really felt at the end of the day that Germain and Rees were the two strongest guys that he put his hands on during the spring.”

    We need to absolutely recognize that JS is looking for the guys his coaches want.

    Cable picked CarpMoff

    He picked GermOhdi

    • Jarhead's Sokoli Bandwagon says:

      Doesn’t that comp leave you a little skittish? Not exactly a ringing endorsement

      • Kenny Sloth says:

        It’s an endorsement nonetheless.

        This is who they are. The coach says “uhhh i want a real big fat guy with long arms”
        And JS drafts that kind of guy. We like redline winners. JS works to make his coaches happy with the best tools at his disposal to do his job, his way.

  449. Brando says:

    Yes we got Trevone Boykin

  450. Steele says:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQ01e74Evek

    David Perkins. Interesting DE. 6-3 but long/skinny legged. A tweener. Played on offense before switching. Not big enough to play end, but hasn’t played much in space for OLB. A good student of the game.

  451. Elmer says:

    Anybody think that drafting 3 RB’3 could signal that Rawls recovery might not be going so well? I love that there will be a hot competition at RB this preseason.

    • Trevor says:

      I was thinking the same thing. The definitely have their asses covered if he cannot get back in time for the start of the year.

    • J says:

      More about getting an exciting athlete who you couldn’t get in UDFA

    • Volume12 says:

      Not at all.

      It signals this:

      Not one guy Seattle had at RB before the draft played a full 16 game season.

      Rawls is THE guy, but losing Lynch, we had to establish the run as our backbone and identity. It’s No central to they are and what the preach.

      Seattle wants to dominate on 3rd downs. Ecspecially in the 3rd &5 or 3&
      So, they go out and add 2 pass catching backs.

      Collins

      Collins is a hammer. More like Rawls.

      Love what Seattle just added to that RB room. i

      • C-Dog says:

        Great points. Variety is how I look at it. Before Lynch, PC always coveted a variety of backs from the USC days. They got thunder and lightening, pass catchers, playmakers. I think RBs could factor even more into the passing game than we’ve seen. If Rawls isn’t by chance ready week one, I wouldn’t be shocked if Collins gets the call to start. I think they got special plans for CJ Prosise.

    • Brando says:

      i think its for competition and seeing the best 3 come out

    • Trail Hawk says:

      No. We’re a run first team. Our OL and RB situation was our biggest need. Competition breeds excellence.

      This season could be EPIC!

  452. Trevor says:

    Wow this is a really good UDFA class. Training camp this year is definitely going to be back to 2013 depth and level of competition for each roster spot. I love it.

    This team (management and players) see ultra focused this off season. I really think 2016 is going to be stellar.

  453. Volume12 says:

    Tyvis Powell is a stud.

    I love this kid.

    Perfect personality for the LOB.

    Had Seahawk written all over him.

    Watch his interviews.

    • Donald says:

      I Agree Vol,

      I was screaming at the computer for Hawks to draft Powell, he is fast and tall FS. Can convert to OLB/ S hybrid.
      Glad he is coming to camp!

    • Trevor says:

      We needed a true free safety backup for Earl and this guy definitely fits the bill. He is a great deep free safety with good range and angles. Likely went undrafted because he is not great against the run.

      Pete needs to teach this kid the Seahawks way to rugby tackle because if he can improve his tackling this kid would be a great free safety back up for Earl and solid special teamer.

      • Alicamousa says:

        The thing about tackling is that if the kid is willing to put his body on the line, the technique is really not difficult. Head inside your shoulder, watch the hips, don’t overcommit, wrap, slide down or drive up.

  454. Kenny Sloth says:

    As a community we had

    Ifedi
    Vannett
    Prosise
    Ohdiambo
    Lawler
    French
    Elliott
    Bryant

    That’s damn good (half were from Vol)

  455. Jarhead's Sokoli Bandwagon says:

    I don’t presume to know everything about what was going to happen this draft like some posters, but now that all is said and done I think this is a textbook wait and see draft. Reed is probably the closest to a slam dunk, if for no other reason than he will only be asked to do one thing. All others are totally “don’t know yet” picks. Not like ’15 or ’12 where you could see 3 or 4 day one starters without too much “if they can” involved. I don’t think Ifedi has any future in this league regardless of size, athleticism or attitude. His technique is rubbish. But TC remarked that his flaws appeared to be the quickest and easiest to fix- so this will be his greatest challenge. If he can make Ifedi a serviceable guard, he really can turn dog doo into ice cream. Everyone else is wait and see, as far as I can see. I’m not excited about anyone by any stretch, but this wasn’t as bad as ’13 or ’14. The thing that has me most excited is the lack of a true investment at C, that should mean Soke will get a real legitimate shot at the starting spot. That’s awesome

    • Trail Hawk says:

      Far from his “greatest challenge”. Com’on man. Cable has made OL out of DL and TE’s. And Ifedi is far from rubbish. All OL men out of college need fixing. The sky is not falling.

      • Jarhead's Sokoli Bandwagon says:

        I didn’t really say the sky is falling. I said it is wait and see. Which I think is pretty fair. And quite frankly, I think that a DL starting from scratch would be less daunting than breaking all the bad habits that Ifedi possesses and then trying to teach him to do things the right way and hope he gets it. Taking a guy who is a waistbender, lunger, with no punch and bad hand placement to sink his hips, attack his opponent with a narrow focused punch, the be aggressive off the ball and keep his hands inside the opponents frame is going to be a really herculean task. He has a size, length advantage but the other stuff is a real stretch. Let’s not hurt ourselves patting this draft on the back. It is okay to say it is a wait and see draft. Lots of teams have that

        • Trail Hawk says:

          I hear ya, wasn’t meaning to put words in your mouth. Just my thought about some of the reactions coming out.

          • Jarhead's Sokoli Bandwagon says:

            No it’s cool, brother. Some may consider me a villainous troll around here, but I am not all bad. Haha I agree that this soon after the draft most people are on the hyperbole train of “We aced this draft!” Or “This is the worst draft in franchise history!” I think some guys could develop, some might fail. This one is totally a TBD type draft for me. Lot of guys need to seriously be coached up, sothey could develop. Others may slide in easily. To me, the jury is still out on whether we “knocked this draft out of the park!”

    • Alicamousa says:

      Funny how differently we all see things hey?

      I think it’s been a top notch ‘filling needs’ draft. Fewer fliers on potential greatness, lots of big, strong, angry, men. Taken on a couple of guys with injury risks, but if they pay off we’re set. We’re in better shape than we were this time last year IMO.

      • Kenny Sloth says:

        Jarran Reed may be the steal of the draft. Fell almost a whole round for NO REASON

      • Steele says:

        I think they addressed the needs with this draft, didn’t totally ignore some of them like they have in the past. Now HOW they addressed them is up for debate.

        Jar brings up good points about Ifedi. We had issues with him in here, but his name rocketed after workouts and TEF. We’ll see. I don’t entirely trust Cable’s ability to make magic out of everyone. Even so, why make it more difficult taking guys with more technique issues? Yes, Cable hates all college linemen and starts them from scratch. Still…

        Rees O is the one pick that disappointed me most. They could have gotten him later. They passed on a crapload of “our” o-line favorites for him.

        And Jar, they may not have gotten one of the top centers in this class, but Joey Hunt may make the team. At least he’s played center for years, unlike Soko. I don’t trust Soko, sorry.

        • Jarhead's Sokoli Bandwagon says:

          Hey that’s cool, man. But if he pans out, we have the most atheltic and maybe strongest lineman in the NFL. So that is worth getting excited about for me, brother

        • Kenny Sloth says:

          Fair points, all, but JS is taking Tom Cable’s guys. I

        • Trail Hawk says:

          “We had issues with him”, yes but he’s far from rubbish. And definitely not “Tom Cables greatest challenge”. Do I want to throw him in at left tackle immediately? No. He should be a beast at LG though.

          • Jarhead's Sokoli Bandwagon says:

            Watch the tape. His fundamentals are rubbish. Any analyst said as much. That he needs a technical overhaul. He will need to be rebuilt from scratch. To strip him down to zero so he can be taught the proper technique will likely be Tom Cable’s greatest challenge. Regardless of differing opinions, we will find out come week 1. I have said that about many picks. Some are Lockett and Wagner, some are Christine Michael or Justin Britt. Gotta wait and see, man

      • Jarhead's Sokoli Bandwagon says:

        Whoa whoa whoa. I mean there could be a couple of guys here and there this year, but saying that this crop has more potetnial than Clark, Lockett, and Glowinski is an outrageous statement. That is a scandal!

        • Steele says:

          I was not a fan of last year’s draft for a lot of reasons. Call that scandalous if you want. I’ll never be Clark’s fan because of off-field that he never really paid for. Lockett isn’t worth the price and depth they paid for him

          • Jarhead's Sokoli Bandwagon says:

            Steele, we agree on a lot but how can you say that? He was a first team all pro as a rookie! What more could he have done to proe his worth?? And I am with you on Clark. I hated his baggage- kind of a “hey you are probably going to be pretty good, but I still think you are likely a dick in real life” type of guy

        • Alicamousa says:

          That’s three guys. There’s easily 5+ dudes in this crop who look like they’re going to be able to step in from day one.

          We’ve got bigger, stronger, and more solid across the board. It’s been a very good draft.

  456. Kenny Sloth says:

    V12, I like Rees Odhi but not his snap count

  457. Steele says:

    Impressive UDFAs.

    DT Brandin Bryant looks at least as good as Q Jefferson. Both come into camp with pass rush.

    RB Tre Madden. Strong, smooth, looks ready for the NFL. Prosise, Collins, Brooks, Madden. A huge competition for camp.

    LB Steve Longa. This guy is tenacious, and makes plays all over the field.

    • Trail Hawk says:

      C-Mike and Rawls. Nothing is guaranteed for them either.

      • H M Abdou says:

        I think Rawls is relatively safe, it’s CMike who should be worried (and it’s not easy for me to say so, I’m a big fan of CMike, especially the new and improved version).