Oklahoma’s Rodney Anderson is a fit (with injury issues)

December 6th, 2018 | Written by Rob Staton

Oklahoma’s Rodney Anderson suffered an ACL injury in September

The Seahawks just drafted a running back in round one. Chris Carson is under contract for two more years. This isn’t a need — especially if they bring back Mike Davis in 2019 (which seems possible and probably sensible).

That said, this is clearly a team determined to run the ball. It’s also a team that has experienced injury issues at the running back position for years. If they don’t keep Davis — or if they keep their options open until after the draft — I want to talk about a possible mid-round addition to replenish their depth.

Oklahoma’s Rodney Anderson started the year being touted as a possible first round pick. He had 1161 rushing yards in 2017 and 18 total touchdowns. He’s 6-1 and 220lbs — a perfect frame for a NFL running back.

On September 8th in a game against UCLA he tore his ACL. Season over. He’s since declared for the draft. It’s not his first serious injury. He suffered a broken leg in 2015 and a fractured vertebrae in 2016. He didn’t play until 2017.

At the combine, teams will want to check the progress of his recovery and look at some of the other previous injuries. It’s likely, whatever they find, he’s going to be a mid-round pick at best. He might even last a little longer.

Even so, he’ll be worth a shot. He’s a highly explosive, physical runner. The cost will be reduced as a consequence of the injuries and it’s a shot to nothing really. In Seattle, he’d also be working in a time-share. It’s succeeding this year and Pete Carroll often collected prize running backs at USC.

He’s doing the same in Seattle…

2010 draft — traded for Leon Washington
2010 season — traded for Marshawn Lynch
2012 draft — drafted Robert Turbin (R4)
2013 draft — drafted Christine Michael (R2) & Spencer Ware (R6)
2015 draft — signed Thomas Rawls as an UDFA
2016 draft — drafted C.J. Prosise (R3) & Zac Brooks (R7)
2017 draft — drafted Chris Carson (R7)
2018 draft — drafted Rashaad Penny (R1)

(Note — I included Rawls in the list above because Carroll admitted after the draft that was his guy — just as Carson was in 2017)

Under Carroll, the Seahawks have consistently added running backs. Even when they had Marshawn Lynch in his prime, they spent a fourth rounder on Robert Turbin and used their first pick in the 2013 draft on Christine Michael.

For that reason, I have to believe they’d continue to keep adding if the right opportunity emerges.

Anderson might be too risky. Clearly they’ve had to endure enough injury issues. Are they willing to take a chance? With only four picks currently in the 2019 draft, can they afford a move like this?

Or do they have to max-out their picks, with Anderson providing an opportunity to get big value potentially early in day three?

For some years now we’ve been able to identify what a Seahawks running back looks like. Here’s a note from a piece written after the 2018 combine:

The Seahawks have targeted running backs with explosive athleticism and size during the Pete Carroll era. They’ve consistently taken runners who excelled in the vertical and broad jumps. Christine Michael (220lbs), C.J. Prosise (220lbs), Robert Turbin (222lbs), Alex Collins (217lbs) and Spencer Ware (228lbs) all had similar size, height and athletic profiles.

Clearly this is a meaningful trend. The Seahawks appear to have a ‘type’. Using this information, we highlighted the following players in the previous two drafts as potential targets:

2016:

C.J. Prosise — 6-0, 220lbs, 35.5 inch vert, 10-1 broad
Kenneth Dixon — 5-10, 215lbs, 37.5 inch vert, 10-8 broad

2017:

Christopher Carson — 6-0, 218lbs, 37 inch vert, 10-10 broad
Brian Hill — 6-0, 219lbs, 34 inch vert, 10-5 broad
Alvin Kamara — 5-10, 214lbs, 39.5 inch vert, 10-11 broad
Joe Williams — 5-11, 210lbs, 35 inch vert, 10-5 broad

They eventually drafted Prosise and Carson.

Considering how many running backs were available in 2016 & 2017, to narrow it down to six names and hit on two players they actually drafted is not insignificant.

This trend continued in the 2018 class. We were able to identify the following group as ‘definite’ fits in terms of their physical profile:

Saquon Barkley — 6-0, 233lbs, 41 inch vert DNP broad
Kerryon Johnson — 5-11, 213lbs 40 inch vert, 10-6 broad
Bo Scarborough — 6-0, 228lbs, 40 inch vert, 10-9 broad
Nick Chubb — 5-11, 227lbs, 38.5 inch vert, 10-8 broad
John Kelly — 5-10, 216lbs, 35 inch vert, 10-0 broad

And described the following group as borderline fits:

Lavon Coleman — 5-10, 223lbs, 33 inch vert, 10-0 broad
Rashaad Penny — 5-11, 220lbs, 32.5 inch vert, 10-0 broad
Royce Freeman — 5-11, 229lbs, 34 inch vert, 9-10 broad

They took Penny with their first pick. He was considered ‘borderline’ rather than a definite fit purely because his explosive testing wasn’t quite at the level of their previous selections. Even so — in terms of size he matched. His speed (4.46 forty) clearly intrigued them enough to concede a little in the explosive testing. That’s something to consider going forward — but their ‘type’ remains clear.

Again, being able to narrow down a loaded 2018 class of runners to eight names isn’t insignificant. They ended up carrying Lavon Coleman on their practise squad too, plus Pete Carroll admitted interest in Royce Freeman during his mid-week press conference before the Denver game.

Anderson at 6-1 and 220lbs fits in terms of size. His SPARQ testing also shows he’s a highly explosive athlete. He jumped a 37-inch vertical. The broad jump isn’t part of SPARQ but he also ran a 3.97 short-shuttle which is impressive for a big running back. In comparison, Bryce Love ran a 4.21 at SPARQ despite being much lighter.

Here’s a further example of his explosive athleticism:

I spent a bit of time watching his tape after studying Kyler Murray this week. Despite carrying 220lbs he accelerates away from defenders to act as a home-run hitter and his ability to change direction and cut back into space is highly impressive.

Here’s an example:

If you need him to fight through contact, he’ll do it:

Can he make plays in the passing game? Absolutely:

Anderson is an early round talent that will last due to the injury history. It’s possible he’ll continue to miss time at the next level and never truly realise his potential. That said, whoever takes him will get a player with a lot more potential than the other players drafted in the same round.

If the Seahawks want to continue to collect runners for their run-heavy offense, Anderson could be an option if he lasts into the third or fourth round.

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104 Responses to “Oklahoma’s Rodney Anderson is a fit (with injury issues)”

  1. cha says:

    Wow! Derrick Henry with a 99yard Beast Mode run!

    BOUYE GET OFF ME

  2. Ralphy says:

    Nice writeup Rob. How do you feel about Justice Hill out of Ok State. Thats the RB I’ve been thinking they might be keeping an eye on.

  3. Ishmael says:

    That pool trick is seriously freaky.

  4. Ishmael says:

    That pool trick is seriously freaky. Big time explosion.

    He’s the sort of player they should have a look at. They aren’t dinky little Prosise injuries where you have to start worrying if he’s made of glass, they’re big unlucky ones that’ll just happen when you play running back. Nothing in there to suggest they’ll happen again. Time to get back to being the biggest, strongest, and fastest team again.

    • icb12 says:

      How explosive and fast he looked in 2017, after a broken leg, and broken vertebrae in previous years is a good sign. At the very least we can tell he works hard at his recovery and takes it seriously, and comes back ready to play.

      Personally I’d like the pick if they selected Anderson in this draft. He is an extremely talented running back. Great ball catcher too.

  5. Ashish says:

    With just 4 draft and other needs I don’t see reason to gamble on it. C J Procice 3rd pick was just for 2 games, Malik McDowell never saw the field. Agree PC and JS got success with Frank and Bruce but I don’t reason to risk draft capital. Undrafted??? Sure bring it on

  6. millhouse-serbia says:

    On yesterday’s presser I heard PC speak so positively about Green for the first time . He said :”You will see him turn in a terrific pass rusher”.
    If that is how PC and JS see Rasheem, maybe DT is much greater need for first round pick next year.

    • Trevor says:

      I agree completely.

      That is why the top of my draft wish list is for one of these 4 DT to somehow fall to the Hawks.

      Dexter Lawerence
      Raekwon Davis
      Christian Wilkins
      Derrick Brown

      They are all potential 3 down DT who would help in both run defense and pass rush. I think of them all Dexter Lawrence might be my favourite for the Hawks. He is an absolute freak who would be almost an instant fix for the run defense and can collapse a pocket as well.

      I think all go top 15 but one can dream.

      • millhouse-serbia says:

        Trevor, I send you an email, maybe you didn’t see. Do you know something more precisely, when do you come to Belgrade?

      • Rob Staton says:

        Very much a dream I’m afraid. Four of the very best players in the draft and players that would likely go early in any given year.

        • Trevor says:

          Agree completely unfortunately. I see Wilkins, Lawrence and Brown available on some of the national mocks and it makes no sense at all.

          • Rob Staton says:

            That’s because the quality of some of the other mocks (which are National mainly only because it’s a generic site) is piss poor unfortunately.

            • GoHawksDani says:

              If they’re sold on Green, Clark, Reed. And they sort of like the depth of the line and/or think they can fill that with cheap vets, and they think that Flowers + Shaq will be fine at CB, and T2, McDougald will be good at S, and BWagz is a monster, and they can get some alright OLB or re-sign KJ, and don’t see any major holes on the O#…so if all clicks… is it possible that they’ll trade up to 10-12 (from lets say 22-24) to get one of the DT guys that is a top3 at that position?
              Or this draft is so stacked at DL that it just not worth, because they might get a 95 guy (on a 100 point list) if they trade up, but they can get an 85 guy even if they trade back to the early 2nd round?

  7. charlietheunicorn says:

    I think you have to think about the RB group as a whole.

    You have one guy who can’t stay healthy (Prosise)
    You have another guy who is a FA (Davis)
    I’m not sure what the contract status is/are for some of the other guys, but they are in the 3rd or 4th years….. so you need to stack some more young RBs on the team.
    The only guy with long term (3 years to go) is Penny.

    They will most likely bring at least 1 guy in via Rookie UDFA and a later round draft pick.
    The guy mention by Rob is a perfect example of looking for value and finding something very unique…. with big upside. And frankly, all late round draft picks are just that, trying to hit on a guy with untapped upside.

    I didn’t realize how many draft picks they had invested in RBs throughout the PC/JS run, but now when you put it in black and white on the page….. if they do not draft a RB I would be shocked.

  8. EranUngar says:

    Nice work there Rob. This guy is certainly a fit for the seahawks and if he stays healthy he could make a GM very very happy as a later round pick.

    The history is there to support the Seahawks adding to their stable of RBs as they did year after year but I can not see them follow this road in 2019.

    Carroll would love nothing more than to pound the rock on the ground 30+ times a game. It’s a heavy load for any single RB and any injury could derail the game plan. The obvious solution is to have a quality RB2 that can get on the field with no step-back in production. That is exactly why the Seahawks kept adding talent behind Lynch. Unfortunately, all that talent did not help once Lynch went down and none proved to be a reliable option since 2015.

    However, Right now, the Seahawks have a full stable of reliable options. The 1st draft pick of 2018 is that RB2 and Davis and McKissic complete the deepest RB room in football.

    We have already heard PC and Penny acknowledge how frustrated Penny was at getting very limited chances to prove himself but overall it seems like this RB group is holding together without any major internal strife. Adding one more hungry mouth to share that split pie could have adverse effects on the chemistry and camaraderie that they managed to sustain.

    With so very few draft picks and other urgent needs on the DL and depth at LB and DB, picking another RB could be the wrong kind of statement. There are enough young and talented bodies competing fiercely for snaps. Let them carry on…

    • Rob Staton says:

      If they lose Mike Davis he will need replacing

      • EranUngar says:

        I think McKissic is as good or better than Davis as a 3rd down/2 minute back.

        Davis is not challenging for RB1. He is a 49er’s reject just happy to be on a NFL roster. A new and talented guy could change the dynamic of that RB room. I’m not sure the seahawks will risk that.

        • Rob Staton says:

          I don’t see it as an issue at all. These players know they’re in committee. Carson can’t even stay healthy. And Penny hardly seems like a diva in waiting.

          McKissic and Davis are totally different players. Given Seattle’s desire to run and Carson’s injury history, they need three RB’s that can carry a workload. McKissic is merely a dynamic extra. If Davis walks, he will need to be replaced. If they take Rodney Anderson anywhere between rounds 3-6 I don’t see any reason to think Carson and Penny are going to have a hissy fit. Always compete.

          • clbradley17 says:

            Found this page recently, showing freakish college football’s freakish athletes, lists Anderson along with Wilkins, Gary, Oliver, Gustin, and a few others that have been discussed here. http://www.nfl.com/photoessays/0ap3000000938945/18-for-'18:-college-football's-most-freakish-athletes

            Another RB they mention and also injured mid-season (fractured ankle like Carson and Rawls), could go day 3 or maybe UDFA, is Jalin Moore of Appalachian St.:

            “Moore packs incredible strength and speed into a compact, 5-11, 207-pound frame. He can squat 650, clean 350 and run the 40-yard dash in 4.37 seconds. His explosiveness (38.5-inch vertical jump, 11-1 broad jump) should rate very high among running backs in next year’s draft.”

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kB1SQ2PUHKA
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xn6vE_ZCdGY

            I remember last year you had Ronald Jones of USC as one of the most desirable RBs for the Seahawks to possibly draft, and one of the factors was his very low fumble %. Where do you find that statistic ranking the college RBs, or will it not be available until after the bowl games and playoffs?

            Also on this page is DE Jabari Zuniga of Florida. “4.12-second 20-yard shuttle (the best 20-yard shuttle among edge rushers at this year’s combine was a 4.19) and 6.97 3-cone time. Other combine measurables on Zuniga include a 9-11 broad jump and 27 reps of 225 pounds on the bench press.” Could he be someone we could consider as a pass-rusher on day 3, especially if these numbers are confirmed with a great 10-yard split, shuttle and 3 cone time at the NFL combine next Feb.-March and/or Florida’s pro day?

    • AlaskaHawk says:

      My view of the running back situation is that the Seahawks identity is wrapped up in having a hard pounding, physical running back. That isn’t to say they won’t also use fast backs like Davis, or smooth running backs like Penny. But they must have a physical running back or they will wander around like lost puppies with a stagnant running system that can’t gain a yard when needed.

      So based on that observation, they only have one running back capable of pounding the rock, and that is Carson. If they are going to find another back, I think it should be a physical runner. that person may already be on someone’s squad, but isn’t being used – someone like Dallas’s 7th round draft pick Bo Scarbough.

  9. Zxvo3 says:

    Hey Rob, you should check out Darnell Savage Jr. out of Maryland. He played slot corner last year and he moved to safety this year. He has some great speed and instincts and is a good open field tackler. I feel like he could be a nice safety to draft and could play special teams while he develops to be a starter.

    • Rob Staton says:

      I saw him against Ohio State. I thought he played quite well. The thing is, he’s a 4.57 runner. If the Seahawks draft a safety I want pure speed.

      • Kenny Sloth says:

        Ted Thompson ran a breezy 4.60

        Perhaps he had a private workout with Seattle and ran faster and lack of speed hasnt really shown in the NFL, but I have said the same thing about speed at safety.

        He was also a pure ball hawk in College. Led the country in passes defensed.

  10. Volume12 says:

    What would Penny’s #’s have been at 240 lbs as he is now?

    I suspect he dropped weight for the combine or he was like 250 coming into the year.

    • Logan Lynch says:

      Did you happen to hear the interview with Penny on 710 a few days ago? He brought up keeping his weight under control without prompting and talked more about it after Wyman asked about it. Penny said he puts on weight pretty fast, but his goal is to drop a little every week to help him get faster. Judging by how he looked early in the year (less explosive) and the comments Carroll made about him after he came back from the finger injury, I definitely think he got bigger than they wanted. If he’s looking this good at 240, imagine what could he do with an offseason of good nutrition that gets him down to 225-230.

      • Or it never happens consistently and in two years he’s another Eddie Lacy.

        Either is equally likely.

        • Logan Lynch says:

          I see your point, but let’s be fair here. Penny is more talented than Lacy. Eddie had a few good seasons, but that was ironically due to his size. People just bounced off him. Then he got too big. Penny is much more explosive and a better athlete than Lacy.

      • Volume12 says:

        I did hear that.

        I still believe he was in Pete’s dog house after coming back from that injury. The weight probably did have something to do with it, but also Pete saying Penny was finally starting to get mad and frustrated at his lack of carries/opportunities.

  11. Volume12 says:

    Chris Carson is currently a better RB than Leonard Foirnette. Pass it on.

  12. Mark Souza says:

    With only four picks (currently), my wish list is for 2 defensive ends, a linebacker, and other. I was hoping the “other” would be a safety, but wouldn’t be disappointed if the pick was spent on someone with this talent, even if it doesn’t presently seem like a position group in need.

  13. Kenny Sloth says:

    https://www.twincities.com/2018/12/04/vikings-sheldon-richardson-tom-johnson-eager-to-face-former-team-in-seattle/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

    It’s not like we had much more to offer him. We aren’t tying up funds past 2020 really. Rebuild isnt over. We’re winning forever.

    • cha says:

      Oh good grief. This is just bluster. Whatever gets you out of bed in the morning I guess.

      Not sure how the Hawks are going to contain Johnson in his 20 snaps per game….///roll_eyes

  14. Kenny Sloth says:

    Josh Sargent! First Bundesliga touch is a headed effort off a deflection from the keeper to score a poacher’s goal from a yard out 2′ into his debut off the bench at 18 years of age.

    🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸

    • Sea Mode says:

      That’s the redhead, right? Good for him. Hope he can get at least some semi-regular minutes.

      • Kenny Sloth says:

        The Red Baron, Soccer Gritty!

        Love me some yanks abroad!!

        He needs to be playing first team ball. He’s played for the senior national team like 6 times already and just made his club debut.

        2026 cant come fast enough 😒

  15. Volume12 says:

    I love watching a prospect and another guy pops and grabs your attention. That’s what’s happened when watching QB Dwayne Haskins.

    Michigan St CB Justin Layne (6’3, 185 lbs.) Only 1 game and I’ll try to find more, but he made me sit up and take notice. Rumor is he’s leaning toward declaring.

    72 tackles for a corner is insane, 15 PBU, 2.5 TFL, 1 INT

    #2 with the long white sleeves:
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3lEIZaJRChc

  16. Pickering says:

    Way off topic: Is UW TE Drew Sample’s blocking close to Will Dissly’s? And in a couple years, how about UW TE Cade Otten.

    On another off topic note, lately I’ve read MPH used to describe a player’s speed. Is this new, something I haven’t noticed before, or perhaps a new metric.

    • charlietheunicorn says:

      The MPH is coming from the chip placed in the equipment giving the “next gen” stats.
      It is how they determined BWags got over 20MPH during his interception return……
      or Tyrik Hill got over 22MPH on a TD catch earlier this year.

      • Old but Slow says:

        Speaking of Wagner, consider playing an entire NFL game at a high level, and then, sprint the length of the field with the football, and still look like you could do it again. Unreal.

        • Sea Mode says:

          For me, that was the highlight of this week’s All Access video: Norton asked Wagner, on oxygen after the TD Sprint, if he wanted a breather. “Hell no!” 🙂

    • Sea Mode says:

      There are a couple Y TEs to check out in this draft, and I’ve also already heard Sample’s name mentioned in this regard. And the Hawks may look at them again depending on Dissly’s progress in rehab. Hopefully it won’t affect him that much long term since his game is not based on speed.

      I’ll try to throw those TE names at you when I get back to my computer.

  17. Coleslaw says:

    Anderson would be awesome in seattle if he got back to 100%. Worst case scenario he replaces Prosise but probably cheaper than his 3rd round contract. Best case, he becomes a star. I mean, if he goes in the 4th or later, then gets back to 100% in the NFL, every team will regret not picking him.

  18. DHawk says:

    Rob, thank you for the great analysis (as always), and many years of fantastic content. Since you’re looking for Porter Gustin cutups, I thought this would help:

    Porter Gustin vs. Alabama 2016
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gg_AJs1pDnc

    Porter Gustin vs. Washington 2016
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTvnJraZdvM

    Porter Gustin vs. Texas 2017
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vogype1Hbgk

    Porter Gustin vs Texas 2018
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8Ke7MS-Yuk

    And here is a bit on his background/character
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwU7L4NuXfo

    Hope that saves you some time searching him out. He looks like a good DE prospect to me, but I’m more interested to hear what you think.

  19. EranUngar says:

    As for the value of the running game:

    Brooks at NFL.com posted a supporting article –
    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000996948/article/running-the-football-still-works-plus-the-amari-cooper-effect

    In it he had the following:

    “The running game allows the offense to control the game and dictate the terms,” a former NFL defensive coordinator told me. “Stopping the run is the No. 1 priority of every defensive coordinator in the game. They will drop additional defenders in the box to make sure teams can’t run the ball. If an offense consistently hands the ball to the back, they can force defensive coordinators to call certain coverages, particularly eight-man fronts with SINGLE HIGH COVERAGE, to take advantage of matchups on the outside.

    It is interesting to see him mention the single high coverage on the same week that another article was published at fieldgulls –
    https://www.fieldgulls.com/2018/12/6/18127009/russell-wilson-seattle-seahawks-shred-single-high-safety-defenses-rams-chargers-panthers-packers

    There may be a reason behind the establish the run game and work the passing game off of it.

    • Hawk Eye says:

      yeah, it is almost like these NFL coaches know more about football than all the “experts” who write for various websites. What a concept. Whenever I want to criticize a decision by PC or JS I try to remind myself that they have way more experience and knowledge of the situation than we do. We just see the result and then scream they should have done it different. Running is still important, even if lots of “experts” make fun of coaches for doing it and not passing 50 times a game “because it is a passing league now”. Pete runs to help his QB, to help his oline, to set up play action and to keep the ball away from the other offence so his defence can rest. And to take away the will of the other team.

    • Volume12 says:

      It’s also how you stop these spread offenses. That’s a huge reason why RBs have seen a resurgence.

  20. clbradley17 says:

    NFL films posted a great film session with Doug Baldwin analyzing his crossover and other moves on the field.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVDpLb5ZrGA

  21. clbradley17 says:

    Speaking of RBs, Pete was extremely vague about CJ’s injuries and shutting him down for the year. Would you like to see us trade him for a day 3 2019 pick, or keep him since he’s still on his rookie contract for about 700k next year, and we probably lose Davis as well?

    One huge DT that Tony Pauline has rated as a late day 3 pick is Anthony Rush of UAB, 6’5″ 340, the 2nd time he’s mentioned him recently. In his latest podcast, Pauline says he dominated Mid. TN St. in the C-USA title game while being double and even triple-teamed, had 5 tackles with 3 for loss. They start the podcast going over the SEC title game, saying that Walker of GA was the best D player on the field.

    http://draftanalyst.com/draft-analysts-podcast-episode-7-urban-meyer-effect-2019-draft

    • cha says:

      Prosise has no trade value. None.

      • Hawk Eye says:

        Procise is the pretty girl that smiles at you in high school, but has no intention of going out with you.
        But she smiles and you think, ” I got a chance”. NO YOU DON’T!

        what a shame, super tantalizing talent with a body that will not hold up (I mean Procise, not the girl….)

        • Elmer says:

          Or he might be the guy that a girl’s mother wants her to date, but she thinks “…no way, something isn’t right here”.

          Either way, probably not a Hawk in 2019. That would mean we need to find some RB depth that can play in the NFL if Davis isn’t back.

          • cha says:

            The way PC stuck to him this year rather than cutting him makes me think he’ll at least have a fighting chance at a spot in 2019. But if he is dinged up and scraped up all through camp, Draft Pick or UDFA is going to beat him out.

  22. clbradley17 says:

    I could see the Patriots or another team with multiple 6s or 7s trade a late pick for him on the chance he could return to the great player he was for that one game against them in 2016. Then of course he’d heal up fine and be a pro bowler for years for them.

  23. Volume12 says:

    Hmmmm….

    E. Carolina WR Trevon Brown (6’2, 215 lbs.) 74 rec., 1123 yds, 9 TDS

    Don’t know what it is exactly, but he kinda moves like Baldwin. Gritty.
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QdPezsPkJbY

    Ohh?
    https://247sports.com/college/east-carolina/Article/ECU-Football-Trevon-Brown-Garrett-McGhin-getting-looks-from-NFL-scouts-120764052/

    • Sea Mode says:

      Moves like Baldwin, legs like Penny… 🙂

      • Volume12 says:

        lol. He’s definitely bigger and thicker than Baldwin, but there’s something similar about them after the catch.

        • Sea Mode says:

          It’s the way he jump-turns on his routes that gets me.

          • clbradley17 says:

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozi4ekReWfU

            He looks almost like a TE he’s so much bigger than the DBs, and you can tell he’s very fast too. Love the way he’s always fighting to fall forward across the goal line or to pick up more yards, not afraid of contact. Great one handed sideline catch at 2:40. Also fast enough he’s been a kickoff returner for his career at ECU, and returned 12 punts this year. Found on another page his coach saying that after he had a fantastic junior year, he’s faced a lot of double teaming this year, and he’s greatly improved his route-running and blocking. Seems like a much bigger David Moore – big, strong, fast, can catch contested and sideline throws. If we can get him on day 3 in rd. 4, 5 or later if we acquire more picks, he looks like a very good prospect. Doubt he’ll last to be a UDFA. Would like to see how he plays in a post-season bowl game if he’s invited to the East-West Shrine or NFLPA game, and how fast he is either at the combine or ECU’s pro day.

  24. Gohawks5151 says:

    Watching Army and Navy. Loving the toughness of Navy safety Sean Williams. 6’1, 190. Coming down hill all day and laying some hat. I don’t know too much else about him but he is all over them game.

  25. Sea Mode says:

    Well, hello…

    WVU TE Trevon Wesco

    6-4,-274 and he can move. They line him up at inline TE and at FB and he’s fast enough to pull across the formation and take on the DE.

    In the passing game, check out the hands, strength, and moves in these clips:
    https://twitter.com/WVUfootball/status/1065660818262581249

  26. Volume12 says:

    Oklahoma OL Cody Ford (6’4, 335 lbs.) is a god damn monster funky stance and all.

    If Fluker isn’t back for whatever reason, this dude is mighty tempting.

  27. JimQ says:

    If they go WR, (a Hollywood Brown clone with meat on his bones) that isn’t getting ANY respect considering his stats this year is Andy Isabella. With MDB seeing more injury concerns lately, as well as his age, a similar sized but much faster slot receiver that may be available in the mid-to-late rounds as a potential deep threat WR for the near future? IMO- This is an “overlooked player” that should be in consideration in the 100-150 pick area of the draft & the Seahawks will have picks in that range. If they value speed as much as I think they do in a WR, Isabella could be an option.

    –WR-Andy Isabella, UMass, 5-10/195 – currently #258-overall at drafttek.com (That will change)
    2018: 12-games, 102/1698/16.65-YPC, 13-TD’s (8.5 rec/game, 141.5-yds/game)
    2-95+yd/games, 4-100+yd games, 1-200+yd game & 1-300+yd game, NOTE: 2018: #1 in FCS in reception yards, #5 in FCS with 13 receiving TD’s. Stats Per: cfbstats.com

    Per PFF: (PFF’s College All-America First Team @ Wide Receiver.) “”No FBS receiver was better at hauling in deep passes this season, leading the nation in receiving grade on throws targeted at least 20 yards downfield. Isabella hauled in a staggering 705 yards on deep shots, on just 14 receptions, good enough for an average of 50.4 yards per reception. That’s over half of the field on a single reception! Isabella led the nation with nine receiving touchdowns on deep passes. On all passes, Isabella’s 4.16 yards per route run was the top mark in the nation among receivers with at least 200 snaps in route this season, a figure that ranks fifth all-time at PFF, behind Rashard Higgins (2014), Amari Cooper (2014), DaVante Parker (2014), & Michael Gallup (2016).””

    Per Matt Miller’s all sleeper team notes:
    “”Andy Isabella is one of my favorite players in the 2019 draft class. The senior from UMass leads the nation in receiving yards (1,698) and has played well against the best competition in the country. When lining up against the Georgia Bulldogs, he went off for 15 catches, 219 yards and two touchdowns, which should eliminate any talk that he runs up stats against weaker competition. With excellent speed that scouts estimate is in the low 4.3s in the 40-yard dash, the 5’10”, 190-pound Isabella isn’t just a possession receiver. He has legitimate deep speed and has the jacked body type to run through press coverage and handle physical cornerbacks.””
    See: https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2806776-matt-millers-early-2019-nfl-draft-all-sleeper-team#slide0

    • Sea Mode says:

      Exciting player. If he runs low 4.3s, he’ll surely be way out of our range though, right? Tyreek Hill ran 4.29 at 5-8, 185. Anywhere close to that and someone is going to take a shot on him in R2 or at latest R3 I would think, given his production as well.

      What are the drawbacks?

      Andy Isabella || Official UMass Mid-Season Highlights
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAVmu1oMMH8

  28. Volume12 says:

    I see some of the slander for my guy Rennell Wren, DT, Arizona St.

    ‘Lacks technique.’ ‘All get-off and explosion.’

    YES! Almost like that’s what the NFL wants and looks for.

    One of the best run defenders in this class and if his combine #’s in any way mirror his spring testing #’s? Hooo my gawd!

    34.5″ vert
    10″ broad
    4.85 40
    Squats 600 and benches over 400

    • charlietheunicorn says:

      Calm down V12, CALM DOWN.

      You are getting way to lathered up about the draft….. in friggin 2019! 😉

    • DC says:

      Call me crazy but I’d like to bring on Wren as an ultra athletic 5 tech DE. Line him up against the taller OTs. He will initially be counted on to shut down the run while he’s getting over that ‘lack of technique’.

      Get that run defense up to the ‘sick’ level as it was in Big Red’s day. #1 rushing offense & defense.

  29. cha says:

    Penny listed as questionable for Monday night with an ankle but didn’t appear on the practice injury report all week. What’s going on?

    Maybe he stepped on a lego at home?

  30. charlietheunicorn says:

    Rob,

    Have you plugged any of the CFB OL prospects in the TEF calculator as of late?
    I definitely think it could provide useful information. Of course, if a guy has a decent TEF compared to other OL prospects AND mashes people during rushing plays….. might be worth elevating that prospect compared to just a TEF / tough guy.

    One guy that has some interest to keep tabs on would be Chris Lindstrom, G, Boston Collage.

    I see (above) that someone mentioned OL as an early round pick for Seattle. No way do I see that as a need pick. I can easily see a late round “developmental” pick in the C or OG slots as a possibility. If they had a couple more picks, then I could see them taking a swing on a guy…. but I see more pressing needs in the defensive front 7.

    • Rob Staton says:

      TEF requires data for the broad & vertical jump plus bench press reps. They don’t do the broad or bench press during SPARQ testing so it’s impossible to calculate any TEF scores until after the combine.

  31. Sea Mode says:

    Wow, this is exactly what Richard Sherman would look like playing WR!

    Listed at 6-4, 195. Lanky frame: check. Dreads: check. Super thoughtful, articulate guy: check. Achilles injury: unfortunately, check. 🙁

    Some pretty good hands and concentration catches though.

    Felton Davis Career Highlights || “I Love” ||
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wtArWAG6Fw

  32. DC says:

    Tony Pauline has a new top 16 mock that is much more in line with SDB’s projection than any other site.

    http://draftanalyst.com/mock-draft-top-half-round-1

    • Rob Staton says:

      There are a couple of big things Tony and I disagree with there (although this is Tony’s projection not necessarily his opinion). I cannot see Bosa not being #1 unless one of the QB’s has an unexpected rise and I don’t see Deionte Thompson going in R1.

      • charlietheunicorn says:

        Let’s assume the Raiders or 49ers are the #1 pick, both need outside pass rush DESPERATELY.
        Bosa would make a bunch of sense for either team. I can see one or maybe two QBs sneaking into the first round, but none seem destined for the top 7….. unless someone way over reaches.

        Jacksonville is a total wildcard to me right now….. they completely fell flat and need a new QB desperately. Right now they are going to be a top 10 pick at this rate (and maybe higher)…. they could reach for a QB…. and toss the draft into minor chaos.

        I’m also excited to see Murray up against legit defensive talent and see how he handles it. If he keeps it close and looks poised, his draft stock might shoot-up even farther. I was looking at him as a low 1st round pick, but he has many intangibles that some other QBs close to home have (RW)….. play making in spades.

        • Rob Staton says:

          I think Jacksonville will go the veteran route to add a QB. It might require some choice cuts to some other veterans. I think Joe Flacco is a distinct possibility there.

          For me Kyler Murray is the best of the bunch of this QB class. Does everything well with the only question mark being size. I’d take the chance. If I need a QB this year, Murray’s my pick.

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