Pre-combine podcast plus WR, QB & TE measurements

February 24th, 2020 | Written by Rob Staton

Brandan and I recorded a new podcast ahead of the combine. Check it out below…

The headline news today (aside from Joe Burrow only having nine-inch hands) is Chase Young won’t be working out at the combine. A reminder — he ran a 4.94 at SPARQ and only managed a 30 inch vertical. There’s no injury, this is simply his choice. I’ve been saying for a while he might not test as well as people are predicting. This, to me, seems to suggest that was probably true.

The measurements also took place today for the quarterback, receiver and tight end groups. For a full breakdown check out this link to Charles Robinson’s list. Here are some of the highlights:

Tight ends

Jacob Breeland
Height: 6-4 7/8
Weight: 252
Hands: 9 7/8
Arm length: 32 5/8
Wingspan: 78 1/8

Harrison Bryant
Height: 6-4 6/8
Weight: 243
Hands: 9 4/8
Arm length: 30 5/8
Wingspan: 74

Hunter Bryant
Height: 6-2 2/8
Weight: 248
Hands: 10 3/8
Arm length: 32
Wingspan: 76 4/8

Brycen Hopkins
Height: 6-3 7/8
Weight: 245
Hands: 10 1/8
Arm length: 32 1/8
Wingspan: 76

Cole Kmet
Height: 6-5 6/8
Weight: 262
Hands: 10 4/8
Arm length: 33
Wingspan: 79

Sean McKeon
Height: 6-5
Weight: 242
Hands: 9 1/8
Arm length: 33 4/8
Wingspan: 78 6/8

Thaddeus Moss
Height: 6-1 7/8
Weight: 250
Hands: 9 7/8
Arm length: 31 7/8
Wingspan: 78 2/8

Albert Okwuegbunam
Height: 6-5 4/8
Weight: 258
Hands: 10 2/8
Arm length: 34 1/8
Wingspan: 79 3/8

Colby Parkinson
Height: 6-7 2/8
Weight: 252
Hands: 9 5/8
Arm length: 33 2/8
Wingspan: 78 5/8

Jared Pinkney
Height: 6-4
Weight: 257
Hands: 10 4/8
Arm length: 78 5/8
Wingspan: 78 5/8

Stephen Sullivan
Height: 6-4 7/8
Weight: 248
Hands: 10 1/8
Arm length: 35 3/8
Wingspan: 85

Adam Trautman
Height: 6-5
Weight: 255
Hands: 9 4/8
Arm length: 32 5/8
Wingspan: 78

Devin Asiasi
Height: 6-3
Weight: 257
Hands: 9 6/8
Arm length: 33 2/8
Wingspan: 80 1/8

Quarterbacks

Kelly Bryant
Height: 6-3 1/8
Weight: 229
Hands: 9/48
Arm length: 32 2/8
Wingspan: 78

Joe Burrow
Height: 6-3 4/8
Weight: 221
Hands: 9
Arm length: 30 7/8
Wingspan: 74

Jacob Eason
Height: 6-5 7/8
Weight: 231
Hands: 9 4/8
Arm length: 32 7/8
Wingspan: 79

Jake Fromm
Height: 6-1 7/8
Weight: 219
Hands: 8 7/8
Arm length: 31 1/8
Wingspan: 75

Justin Herbert
Height: 6-6 2/8
Weight: 236
Hands: 10
Arm length: 32 7/8
Wingspan: 78 7/8

Anthony Gordon
Height: 6-2 3/8
Weight: 205
Hands: 9 6/8
Arm length: 31
Wingspan: 73

Jalen Hurts
Height: 6-1
Weight: 222
Hands: 9 6/8
Arm length: 31 6/8
Wingspan: 77 5/8

Steven Montez
Height: 6-4
Weight: 231
Hands: 9 3/8
Arm length: 32 6/8
Wingspan: 76 7/8

Tua Tagovailoa
Height: 6-0
Weight: 217
Hands: 10
Arm length: 30 4/8
Wingspan: 75 2/8

Jordan Love
Height: 6-3 6/8
Weight: 224
Hands: 10 4/8
Arm length: 32 5/8
Wingspan: 80

Wide receivers

Brandon Aiyuk
Height: 5-11 5/8
Weight: 205
Hands: 9 6/8
Arm length: 33 4/8
Wingspan: 80

Lawrence Cager
Height: 6-4 6/8
Weight: 220
Hands: 8 7/8
Arm length: 33 3/8
Wingspan: 79 3/8

Quintez Cephus
Height: 6-0 7/8
Weight: 202
Hands: 8 6/8
Arm length: 32 1/8
Wingspan: 77

Chase Claypool
Height: 6-4 2/8
Weight: 238
Hands: 9 7/8
Arm length: 32 4/8
Wingspan: 80

Gabe Davis
Height: 6-2
Weight: 216
Hands: 9 2/8
Arm length: 32 2/8
Wingspan: 77 4/8

Bryan Edwards
Height: 6-2 6/8
Weight: 212
Hands: 9 4/8
Arm length: 32 2/8
Wingspan: 78 5/8

Antonio Gandy-Golden
Height: 6-4
Weight: 223
Hands: 9 5/8
Arm length: 31 6/8
Wingspan: 77

Antonio Gibson
Height: 6-0 3/8
Weight: 228
Hands: 8 5/8
Arm length: 31 1/8
Wingspan: 75 4/8

K.J. Hamler
Height: 58 5/8
Weight: 178
Hands: 9 3/8
Arm length: 30 6/8
Wingspan: 72 4/8

Tee Higgins
Height: 6-3 5/8
Weight: 216
Hands: 9 2/8
Arm length: 34 1/8
Wingspan: 81

K.J. Hill
Height: 5-11 7/8
Weight: 196
Hands: 9 2/8
Arm length: 29 1/8
Wingspan: 72 4/8

Justin Jefferson
Height: 6-1 2/8
Weight: 202
Hands: 9 1/8
Arm length: 33
Wingspan: 78

Van Jefferson
Height: 6-1 4/8
Weight: 200
Hands: 9 1/8
Arm length: 32 6/8
Wingspan: 77 1/8

Jerry Jeudy
Height: 6-1
Weight: 193
Hands: 9 4/8
Arm length: 32 1/8
Wingspan: 76

Ceedee Lamb
Height: 6-1 5/8
Weight: 198
Hands: 9 2/8
Arm length: 32 2/8
Wingspan: 76 5/8

Henry Ruggs
Height: 5-11
Weight: 188
Hands: 10 1/8
Arm length: 30 4/8
Wingspan: 74 4/8

Laviska Shenault Jr
Height: 6-0 5/8
Weight: 227
Hands: 9
Arm leng31 7/8th:
Wingspan: 76 2/8

Denzel Mims
Height: 6-2 7/8
Weight: 207
Hands: 9 3/8
Arm length: 33 7/8
Wingspan: 78 4/8

Michael Pittman
Height: 6-4
Weight: 223
Hands: 9 2/8
Arm length: 32 4/8
Wingspan: 79 2/8

Jalen Reagor
Height: 5-10 5/8
Weight: 206
Hands: 9 4/8
Arm length: 31 3/8
Wingspan: 74 3/8

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168 Responses to “Pre-combine podcast plus WR, QB & TE measurements”

  1. Chase Cash says:

    Hey rob quick question, could you see the hawks going after Robbie Anderson in FA?

  2. Kenny Sloth says:

    👑

  3. Sea Mode says:

    Mike Garafolo
    @MikeGarafolo
    ·9m

    The #Seahawks are hiring Eliot Wolf and Alonzo Highsmith as consultants during the draft process this spring, sources say. Both know John Schneider well. Long-term options for both of the former #Browns executives remain open.

  4. Sea Mode says:

    One of your guys, right, V12?

    Tom Pelissero
    @TomPelissero
    ·3h

    Utah cornerback Jaylon Johnson — a potential first-round pick — will fully participate in the combine, then undergo surgery next week to repair a torn labrum that he played through last season.

  5. Sea Mode says:

    TE measurements rolling in. Don’t worry, I’m not going to paste them all, just some I find of interest…

    Kmet really nice size. Wow. Moss a little short in the arms.

    Notre Dame TE Cole Kmet

    Height: 6-5 6/8
    Weight: 262
    Hand: 10 4/8
    Arm: 33
    Wingspan: 79

    Oregon TE Jacob Breeland

    Height: 6-4 7/8
    Weight: 252
    Hand: 9 7/8
    Arm: 32 5/8
    Wingspan: 78 1/8

    Washington TE Hunter Bryant

    Height: 6-2 2/8
    Weight: 248
    Hand: 10 right hand (pinky deformation), 10 3/8 left hand
    Arm: 32
    Wingspan: 76 4/8

    LSU TE Thaddeus Moss

    Height: 6-1 7/8
    Weight: 250
    Hand: 9 7/8
    Arm: 31 7/8
    Wingspan: 78 2/8

    UCLA TE Devin Asiasi

    Height: 6-3
    Weight: 257
    Hand: 9 6/8
    Arm: 33 2/8
    Wingspan: 80 1/8

    • Rob Staton says:

      Asiasi is the best TE in this draft for me. Such a natural catcher and extremely fluid getting to the second level.

      • D-OZ says:

        Love Asiasi. Really transformed his body from his Soph. to Jr. season’s. Sounds like he has lost even more weight.

      • drewdawg11 says:

        Devin was a kid who people thought may grow into an OL when he was in high school. He cane to college around 270 lbs. he’s physical and can catch the ball pretty well. No reason why he can’t be a mid round steal.

      • Sea Mode says:

        Will definitely be taking a closer look now.

    • dcd2 says:

      One other that stands out to me is WR Juwan Johnson – UO.

      6’4
      230
      10 4/8
      34 2/8
      81 5/8

      There was talk that he might be better suited to playing as a ‘move’ TE. He’d need to bulk up a bit, but the frame is there.

  6. Seaj253 says:

    Looking at the TE measurables and the only one that fits the ideal that Rob provided earlier this weekend is
    Albert O from Missouri
    You could also throw in Stephen Sullivan from LSU

    • Steve Nelsen says:

      Sullivan was identified as a better receiver than expected in drills at the Senior Bowl. He is high on my list for a day 3 project pick.

      • BoiseSeahawk says:

        Stephen Sullivan stuck out to me too with that crazy wingspan and size. He was switched to TE his senior season and was underutilized in his True Position with a crowded WR room.

        LSU had a crazy good WR core last season with Higgins and Jefferson BUT Sullivan actually has the best measurables of the three! He isn’t a blocker… that is why he is being ignored as a TE prospect, but he is not a TE and only had 1 year at that position. If the hawks look at him I hope they consider him a WR in the NFL. He has great hands, huge catch radius and speed at almost 6’5″ with a 85 wingspan.

        Seems like a sleeper WR pick to me.

  7. Hunter Bryant weighing in at 248 jumps out to me. Played more in the 230’s at UW.

  8. Aaron Bostrom says:

    Hey SB Nation just gave you a shout out in their latest mock!

    “If the Seahawks stay at No. 27 and go after a pass rusher, they’ll likely be picking based in part on how players test in drills. Rob Staton of the tremendous Seahawks Draft Blog explains what the Seahawks look for here. Namely, Seattle likes a good 10-yard split in the 40 and prefers length. We know Okwara has the length. If he can show his burst off in drills, the logic points to him fitting in Seattle.”

  9. Henry Taylor says:

    I had heard that this was the case, but seeing for sure that Aiyuk has 33 and half inch arms at 5’11 is pretty crazy length.

    • Rob Staton says:

      He is a fantastic talent.

    • Trevor says:

      He would look so good in a Hawks uniform. If the could add Aiyuk and Claypool as a TE convert this offense would have weapons equal to the Chiefs IMO.

    • Miami Hawk says:

      How does a guy 5’11 have an 80″ wingspan? That is just freaky and more than the TEs who have 5 or 6 inches on him. Those things mustnm hang to his knees. That is an impressive trait to be sure.

  10. Georgia Hawk says:

    Antonio Gibson measuring right in the sweet spot! If he runs and jumps as well as predicted he is my crush of the year.

    • Cheese22 says:

      He looks like the ultimate 3rd down back and would be great in the return game. His draft rank is all over the place too.

  11. Sign me up for Pinkney and his go-go gadget 78″ arms 😉

  12. Coleslaw says:

    Holy crap I gotta watch Stephen Sullivan now!

  13. JimQ says:

    Looks like a couple of the top ranked QB’s have really SMALL hands, I’d expect a lot of discussion during the combine about their hand size as a major concern.

    Aiyuk sure looks like a Seahawk, maybe with pick #27? If he blows up his #’s at the combine, it may be difficult to get him even then ’cause there are several WR needy teams that may go WR in late Rd-1.

  14. Trevor says:

    The USA about Jordan Love and Justin Herbert is only going to grow after the combine. Both guys have great size, big hands and are going to move and throw really well I expect.

    Herbert really his the pro type physically he has it all and is a good runner as well. I wonder if he has the mental toughness NFL teams look for but he certainly looks the part. I think that gimmicky short passing offense certainly did not help him at Oregon.

    I hope a bunch of QBs have great weeks so teams are looking to trade up into RD #1 giving JS some trade back options at #27. Eason and Love moving into Rd #1 would be awesome.

    • Trevor says:

      QBs not USA. Darn autocorrect on the phone.

    • Henry Taylor says:

      I’ve cooled on Herbert considerably, he hasn’t got any better throughout his college career and is accuracy just isn’t very impressive. For an ‘upside’ guy, I don’t even think his highlights are that impressive, just lots of receivers adjusting to poorly thrown ball in the air.

      At this point I’d probably consider Fromm over him, but for me this QB class is Burrow, then Tua and Love in the right situation, and then a bunch of guys Im not interested in as future starters.

      • Starhawk29 says:

        I’m with you in putting Love, Burrow, and Tua as better choices than Herbert. He reminds me so much of Goff, but I can also see a whole lot of Carson Wentz in him physically.

        Truthfully, very few prospects can elevate themselves above their situation. Tua seems like a guy who’s leadership ability might be able to do it (if healthy) and Burrow might have it as well. With Herbert he is entirely dependent on situation. If he were to go to Oakland, for example, and spend a year behind Carr, I think he’d be a much more dangerous prospect than if he goes to the Chargers and starts right away. He has so much physical talent, but hasn’t learned from mistakes or improved his technique, and he’ll need a coach that holds him accountable.

        No matter I don’t see the drive to be the greatest ever in him. When his team was down this year he didn’t pull them out and take them to victory. He threw interceptions and errant passes, and it looked like the pressure was too much for him. I care way too much about mental toughness to be ok drafting that kid anywhere early.

      • Simo says:

        Herbert will be a R1 pick (high one likely) for sure, and we could see Love and Eason also taken in the first depending on how well they throw. This probably means at least five first round QB’s, which is good for the Hawks.

        It’s going to be so interesting to see who they focus on with their first pick. If Aiyuk is there, he sure looks like an ideal combination of size and speed. If Okwara is available maybe that’s the direction they go, or they could focus on the O-line.

      • Matt says:

        I am going to make a grossly simplified statement here – but I think evaluators overcomplicate the scouting process of QBs.

        Does the QB have an average fastball? Is his arm “strong enough?”
        Does the QB consistently go through progressions?
        Does the QB navigate the pocket in a calm manner?
        Does the QB make accurate throws?

        I don’t know how many average physical talents need to pan out in the NFL at the QB position before teams say, “you know – maybe being accurate with a good enough arm and processing the game at a high level is more important than having a howitzer and looking like a Madden create a player.”

        Burrow has a good enough arm and processes the game at an amazingly high level.
        Tua has a good enough arm and processes the game at a high level. How bad is the injury?
        Herbert looks like a QB cover boy, but doesn’t look comfortable playing QB.
        Eason has one of the best arms you’ll ever see but looks uncomfortable playing QB.
        Jake Fromm looks comfortable playing QB but doesn’t have a good enough arm and it’s clear his own college coaches didn’t trust him.

        Why must they overcomplicate this stuff? I sincerely think you are comfortable going through reads or you are not. To me it’s like the old baseball scouting where the guy can destroy balls in BP, but in a game, can’t pick up off speed. I don’t think you just “learn” that. You have it and can enhance it. Or, you don’t have it.

        • Henry Taylor says:

          I agree, its obviously not that simple and there’s always exceptions. But nfl scouts regularly overthink the process. That’s how a Mitch Trubisky gets drafted over a college football superstar like Watson.

          • Matt says:

            Totally…Trubisky is exactly who I was thinking of when writing that.

            It’s like my favorite quote in Moneyball:

            Scout: “He is a good hitter. He’s got a great looking swing…just needs more at bats.”
            Beane: “If he’s a good hitter why doesn’t he hit good?”

            I think there is a hubris with high end sports people where they want to see what nobody else sees or they can be the one to untap that “potential.” Very hard to do at levels that high.

        • 34shadow says:

          It gets complicated because QBs have to play within their scheme, rely on their linemen to give them time and their receivers to run the right route and everyone to catch the ball. Trying to gauge that all is not easy..

          The most unflattering opinion of Tua is Matt Leinart. ML looked unstoppable in college because of the talent around him. To put it another way, every decent prospect looks amazing with zero pass rush and NFL-caliber receivers. He had time to go through progressions, he checked all the boxes above, he just didn’t have a good enough arm.

          For Burrow, his downside is that he had one amazing season. There is a big risk to guys who ball for a year and then fall off the map. Now, just because there is a risk doesn’t preclude massive success, it just means that there is less tape. The draft is littered with one-shot wonders.

          For Herbert, his greatest problem is that every throw seems to be a fastball. Even his long tosses are thrown with very little (comparative) arc. That will need to be corrected.

          Nevertheless, because football is the ultimate team sport, trying to pin down just one position, independent of the rest of the team will inevitably lead to bad evaluations.

  15. Cameron says:

    Dang, the hands on Cole Kmet! Also hits the 33″ arm length threshold.

    Harrison Bryant with the T-rex arms.

  16. Cameron says:

    Hate to see the tiny hands on Burrow. From what I’ve seen and mentally kept track of, seems to me that hand size directly correlates with performance under pressure (i.e. “anyone” can make a throw on schedule with a clean pocket, but larger hands provide better control to make tough, unscheduled, awkward throws under pressure).

    Will be interesting to see if his career follows the same pattern.

  17. Volume12 says:

    I’ll be refreshing the page and checking in and out, but I’m goin’ through some things. Friend of mine died, my cousin was diagnosed with terminal cancer, and then just the struggles of life we all go through on top of that.

    Enjoy the combine SDB!

  18. Awsi Dooger says:

    Rob nailed the opener. Chase Young avoiding the tests is the least surprising combine development of all time. He was going to bomb.

    I was very surprised at Burrow’s 9 flat hands because that concern had never been mentioned toward him.

    Tua has a very interesting combo of large hands and short arms. That’s probably good at quarterback because it lends to compact delivery and less chance of the ball being slapped away.

    Such a contrast to Mahomes with his barely above threshold 9.25 hands but 33+ arms.

    Jordan Love is quite the specimen with huge hands, very long arms and wide wingspan. It might explain some of the erraticism especially for a developmental player at a small school. He needs to shorten the delivery. Mostly he needs to regain the 2018 swagger.

    Who cares about a hitch drill? The combine should have added an improvisational drill for quarterbacks.

    Jake Fromm should not receive a pass simply because we’ve known about the 8 7/8 hands for 3 years. It’s news regarding Burrow because we lacked a prior. If we similarly lacked a prior with Fromm the headline today would be wow Burrow is barely at the minimum 9 but look at tiny Jake Fromm with those reject 8 7/8 hands.

    • Miami Hawk says:

      A have read a lot of coaches say that you just can’t coach up accuracy and arm strength. But accuracy is probably the more important factor as long as there is enough arm strength to make the throws since throwing 60 yard bombs that end up as picks is not helpful. It’s not just mechanics, it’s an innate sense that you got or don’t. Tua has it, Burrows has it , and it drops off a bunch after that.

  19. Happy Hawk says:

    Random thought Rob what about a flyer of FA DL Emanuel Ogbah from KC. Former high second round pick in 2016, 6-4 275lbs, ran a 4.50 shuttle and a 4.63 forty ( don’t know his 10 yard split) and has 35.5 inch arms. Could be inexpensive with some upside while he is still young.

    • Rob Staton says:

      As long as he’s cheap and a ‘third wheel’ not a starter.

    • Steve Nelsen says:

      He had an elite 10-yard split at the combine. He was coming on last year as a pass rusher before he got hurt. He looks like a prime candidate for a 1-year prove it deal and he might want it. He is a potential breakout pass rusher who could make himself a lot of money if he stays healthy and builds off last year.

    • DougM says:

      In 416 snaps he got 32 tackles and 6 sacks, better than anyone on our defensive line. Out of all the free agent defensive ends he ranks #1 in tackles/snap.

  20. Troy says:

    Interesting, Chase has to know that his bad testing numbers will plummet his stock. I wonder how far this actually drops him? At the current moment he is almost the consensus #2 draft pick behind Burrow, I wonder if that will change. Rob what you think?

  21. Sea Mode says:

    I know they can hope and ask for whatever number they want at this point, but just trying to get an idea of what Clowney’s number might be.

    Big Cat Country
    @BigCatCountry

    #Jaguars DE Yannick Ngakoue seeking $22 million per year contract
    https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28742566/2020-nfl-franchise-tag-candidates-predictions-21-teams-use-free-agency#JAX

    (per ESPN’s Mike DiRocco)

    • Simo says:

      Although they don’t appear to be exact comparisons, wouldn’t this number also be the ceiling for Clowney? Obviously sacks aren’t the only statistic that matters and Clowney brings a lot to the table, so do you think his lack of sacks would keep his asking price manageable, and not in the $25m range I have seen tossed about?

      • Rob Staton says:

        This $25m talk is a load of bollocks.

        The DE market is fairly well set. I don’t see any of these guys busting it open. Clowney will get Clark/Lawrence money.

        • Airkent says:

          I dunno, he’s totally unrestricted and we saw what cousins got at the time he was unrestricted. I hope it is under 25 and we bring him back because he was the only guy on our D last year that could wreck a team’s offensive game plan.

        • Simo says:

          I sure hope so, but it only takes one team to think he’s their savior and offer a market busting deal. If he’s true to his word though and wants to play for a contender over receiving a max deal anywhere, then his options may be fairly limited. It would be hard to imagine the Hawks as anything other than his best option.

    • charlietheunicorn says:

      If the new CBA passes…. the new normal will be (within 3-4 years) 30M / year deals for DEs or pass rushers that produce. QBs will pull in 50+M/year and LT will pull in 20-25M / year.

      Without the CBA, then I agree the 25M/year talk is hogwash. If it passes, then sky is the limit.

  22. KRR in WI says:

    Juwan Johnson, Oregon

    Height: 6-4
    Weight: 230
    Hand: 10 1/2
    Arm: 34 1/4
    Wingspan: 81 5/8

    Pete has always liked to have a big WR on the roster. Anyone have thoughts on Johnson or seen him play much last season? I’m curious to see how he’ll run.

    • Rob Staton says:

      They drafted a big WR a year ago I think, some guy named Metcalf or something.

    • dcd2 says:

      I threw his name up at the top, but as a TE convert. He was a transfer from Penn State, and got banged up at the beginning of the season. The Ducks run as much as anyone in the Pac12 (except Utah), so he’s actually been a really good blocker (albeit on the outside). Drops were an issue at PSU, but he didn’t seem to have that problem at UO.

      He made some really clutch catches, and is obviously a big body. He’s not going to be quick enough or fast enough at WR IMO. If he adds 15 pounds, I think he could be a decent gamble as a TE project. There were reportedly scouts at the Shrine game floating that idea as well.

      • Tecmo Bowl says:

        Chase Claypool
        Height: 6-4 2/8
        Weight: 238
        Hand: 9 7/8
        Arm: 32 4/8
        Wingspan: 80

        Gained 9 pounds since the Senior Bowl. Another TE convert.

  23. dream22 says:

    Surprised at the length of Hamler’s arms, does this move him down draft boards on its own?

  24. Coleslaw says:

    Asiasi is real nice! I wonder if we could get him at 59

  25. Rob Staton says:

    I have two articles ready to roll for after the combine and before free agency. Itching to get them out there.

  26. Sea Mode says:

    I love this guy.

    Joey Burrow
    @Joe_Burrow10
    · 34m

    Considering retirement after I was informed the football will be slipping out of my tiny hands. Please keep me in your thoughts.

  27. Sea Mode says:

    Does Reagor have an issue with drops?

    Every Jalen Reagor Target and Rush vs. Baylor – All 22 Angle
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWT8ipAJEzc

    • dcd2 says:

      3 drops in that film. PFF had a crazy stat about how bad the QB was, saying that something like 30% of his targets were accurate passes. I’ll see if I can find that info to link. They also mentioned that he had 6 QB’s in his 3 years at TCU. Some NFL team did a profile on him that I thought was pretty solid and they mentioned his drops being the biggest issue he has.

      The biggest question I have is; where did that guy get all 22 tape from? Wish that was more readily available to the masses.

    • dcd2 says:

      It was from the Titans site… 30.7% of his passes were accurate, and he played with 7 QB’s in 3 years.

      Here is the profile:

      https://www.musiccitymiracles.com/2020/1/24/21020148/2020-nfl-draft-scouting-report-profile-jalen-reagor

    • Henry Taylor says:

      It’s a bit of an issue for sure, but when a guy has that level of supreme natural talent I can live with something coachable like that. DK also had a lot of bad drops in college.

    • Henry Taylor says:

      Also, thanks for this link dude, look at all that all 22 film this guy has uploaded!

    • Tecmo Bowl says:

      “Does Reagor have an issue with drops?”

      Yes. Does make a fair amount of tough catches too. The question is whather the drops outweigh the contested catches.

  28. Nathan says:

    Player Sack Year Drafted
    Donald 72 2014
    K Mack 61.5 2014
    D Hunter 54.5 2015
    F Clark 43 2015
    J Bosa 40 2016
    D Lawrence 39 2014
    V Beasely 37.5 2015
    Y Ngakoue 37.5 2016
    D Ford 37 2014
    P Smith 36.5 2015
    TJ Watt 34.5 2017
    Barrett 33.5 2014
    C Jones 33 2016

    Players who’ve entered the league, either in Clowney’s draft, or after, who have more sacks.

    • Nathan says:

      Sorry, tried formatting. It arranged it how it wanted after I hit post.

      • Sea Mode says:

        Looks good and thanks for the info. Definitely puts his age and production in perspective and is not bad company to be in, especially given the havoc he also wreaks vs. the run.

        • Davido says:

          Hmm there are also some guys in that list that will not make his desired money. I still believe he could have a “sack breakout” if he gets surrounded by more talent in our DLine.
          I think it’s a pretty weird season for him to hit FA. He showed he can be a gamewrecker with us, he still has that amazing physical upside but still he hasn’t produced what you would like to see from a guy that might want such a contract.

  29. Zxvo3 says:

    Rob and/or others, does anyone have an opinion on receiver Quintez Cephus from Wisconsin?

    • dcd2 says:

      He looked amazing in the Rose Bowl, so I’d watch that game for the good. He was breaking tackles, trucking LB’s and making contested catches. His play reminded me a bit of Deebo, in that he just seemed to play with fire and not shy away from contact one bit.

      I’m not sure how fast he is, but I would guess he might be 4.5+, which Rob pointed out would be more of an exception, than a desired time. If he runs 4.4’s he’s probably on the radar for day 3.

      He was off the team for (I think) a year, due to some off-field allegations. The team reinstated him, but it could be a red-flag regardless.

      I thought Cephus and TE – Jake Ferguson looked like the better prospects in the Rose Bowl, and not Jonathan Taylor and Tyler Biadasz. That was the only full Badger game I watched though.

      • Zxvo3 says:

        Pauline just reported that 15 wide receivers could be picked in the first 2 rounds. He says Cephus could be one of those 15 which I found was interesting. I do his play style and I think he’s extremely underrated. If he runs a 4.4 forty, then he could be a target for the Seahawks.

        • Tecmo Bowl says:

          “Pauline just reported that 15 wide receivers could be picked in the first 2 rounds.”

          Saw that too…seems like a typo, and should be ‘the first 2 days’.

          The shear number of talented WR will push 2nd round talent into the mid-late 3rd.

    • Rob Staton says:

      I haven’t studied him

  30. charlietheunicorn says:

    This is “freaky”

    Brandon Aiyuk
    Height: 5-11 5/8
    Weight: 205
    Hands: 9 6/8
    Arm length: 33 4/8
    Wingspan: 80

    He actually has good weight for his size as well.
    Maybe Rob is onto something with this guy. 😉

  31. Steve Nelsen says:

    A 90-minute blog and I loved every minute of it. Thank you, Rob.

  32. charlietheunicorn says:

    I was listening to an interview on the TV with Hunter Bryant. Long story short, he says he has been attending the same workout establishment within Seattle as KJ Wright and Bobby Wagner have for the last 4-5 years. The way it came across, he said he has learned a lot from the guys about what it mean to be a pro and work on your craft.

    When I was watching this, I could definitely see Seattle having a good read on the guy from 4-5 years of current player interaction with him. They would definitely have a great feel for what makes him tick and what he would bring to the table. I can see him as the FB/TE hybrid…. mismatch weapon on the offense.

    I’m putting him on the Seahawks board when round 3 commences. I think he is more round 4, but if they like the guy, they could easily take a swing on him in round 3. Very intriguing.

    • Kingdome1976 says:

      It also says something about him if we don’t take him in the 3rd or 4th.

      • Rob Staton says:

        Not really. They might not want a TE that early.

        By all accounts Hunter Bryant is considered a great guy.

        • Kingdome1976 says:

          Yes but considering this blog has been saying he’s a borderline 1st round pick, to get him in the 3rd or 4th is a no brainer right?

          • Rob Staton says:

            No not necessarily. They have to address multiple areas.

            • drewdawg11 says:

              Hunter works out at FSP, and he’s been rocked up since he was a 9th grader. Tracy Ford has a nice business going and a lot of athletes from all over come to play on their elite 7 on 7 team. You’ll see a lot of them in the draft for years to come. Hunter is a weapon on offense. His drops are probably of the concentration variety because he has huge, extremely soft hands. I attended his first real breakout game against Cal his freshman year and the ball stuck to his hands. He’s going to be a weapon for some team who knows how to use him.

  33. Kingdome1976 says:

    Rob, I was wondering what you thought of these three WR’s that seem to be under the radar.

    Gabriel Davis
    Tyler Johnson
    Antonio Gandy-Golden

    • Trevor says:

      I really liked Tyler Johnsons tape as he seems to have a great feel for the position. Runs good routes and always seemed open. Had a couple of drops but seems to have good catching technique. I was really suprised he was not at the Senior Bowl. Rumour has it there are some personality stuff with him but I have never really been able to find out what it is. On the surface just based on his play he seems really underrated.

      I like Davis as well.

    • Rob Staton says:

      Liked Tyler Johnson on tape. Not sure what’s going on with him to get no Senior Bowl invite or pre-draft chatter. Davis I like but I want to see him test. Not really studied AGG.

  34. Trevor says:

    Rob what are your thoughts on Chase Claypool? Have you had a chance to evaluate him? I have been banging the drum all year for the Hawks to take him to be a mismatch TE convert in the Darren Waller mould. He is already bigger than Jacob Hollister and he seems to be an incredibly physical blocker.

    I am biased as he is a Canadian Kid and was wondering your thoughts on him in this type of roll. With Dissly and Olsen on board next year it would give him a year to learn the postion without be thrust into a starting role.

    Also what range do you think he will go? Perhaps these questions will be easier to answer after the combine but I am curious.

    • Rob Staton says:

      I haven’t studied him. This close to the combine, I’ll tend to just see how certain positions test. If he runs a 4.55 it’d probably be a waste of time. But if he runs a 4.4 I’ll check him out. I’m not a fan of this ‘converting to TE’ talk though. When has that ever worked and been a success? You just don’t see WR’s move to TE.

      • Trevor says:

        I guess Darren Waller is the most recent guy I can think of as a convert. It will be interesting to see how he tests. I dont think he runs in the 4.4s but if he does then will go too early for the Hawks to consider likely anyways.

        The only reason I even thought of him as a convert was because he was so physical blocking and as a special teamer. He looks for contact and seems to have the attitude it would take to be a TE.

  35. Trevor says:

    Saw a report Chaisson is not doing drills at combine. Hope this is not a trend for all the top guys with him and YOung both reporting that.

    No one has been on the Chaisson bandwagon more than me but this is a it of a red flag for me because if he is the athlete people say he is and I thought he was this would have been a chance for him to shine and cement his spot as an early pick. I get YOung not working out because he has nothing to prove and is locked in to the Redskins. That is not the case for Chaisson. Whoever is giving him this advice is doing him wrong IMO. UNless he really is not the athlete I thought which is another possibility.

    • Rob Staton says:

      I have an article ready to roll discussing pass rush win percentage.

      K’Lavon Chaisson was dead last for EDGE rush candidates.

      No work out, lack of production… but he ‘looks’ like an athlete and wears #18.

      Pfft.

      • Trevor says:

        I am not off the bandwagon yet but as I mentioned not working out is a huge red flag for me and certainly gives me serious pause.

        • Kingdome1976 says:

          You are absolutely right about this being a red flag…a huge red flag.

          Chaisson is THE most over-hyped draftee this year. Very little production but he “seems” to have great athletic ability. Sounds good. Just one thing…prove this ability at the combine. Oh..wait.

          To me this drops him from a potential mid-first round pick to a late 2nd or 3rd rounder. Unless he is injured of course.

          • Simo says:

            I wouldn’t be overly concerned just yet, as he is likely skipping combine workouts in order to prepare for his pro day on April 3. This gives him another five weeks to focus on his preparation and perform at his best. Others are probably taking this approach as well.

            He’s clearly not in position to skip workouts altogether, so he must have decided the extra time to prepare is more important.

            It can be a bit risky because he’ll only have the one chance to impress teams, rather than at the combine and then try to show improvement at the pro day.

  36. STTBM says:

    Hey Rob, you were right, I was dead wrong about Warford. He never did a prove it deal and I must have confused two players. I disagree with your opinions on much of your last comment to me, but Im not intending to beat a dead horse or piss you off, just discuss differences of opinion. So Im gonna let it go. I do want to be a part of this blog community, and Im not one of the Seahawks Twitter fools who seem to think PC/JS are replaceable, or that being a GM is easy.

    I think its great Seattle is hiring Highsmith and Wolf. Those guys are good at personnel eval, and I hope they find a permanent spot for them both. But its probably a one time deal, like with Pettine and Grigson.

    Lots of big tall WR’s and more with FL size…40 times and agility will be exciting!

  37. Trevor says:

    My Pre Comine hot takes.

    -Jeff Odukah will end up being the star defensive player of this draft class and Derrick Brown will be the best DL man in this draft class not Chase Young.

    -Joe Burrow will not be the starting QB for the Bengals next year but will be the #1 pick.

    -No WRs will get drafted in the top 15 but there will be 10 + drafted between picks 15-50

    -The Hawks will shock the world and actually make a pick at #27 instead of trading back.

  38. Trevor says:

    Louisville OT Mekhi Becton

    Height: 6-7 3/8
    Weight: 364
    Hand: 10 6/8
    Arm: 35 5/8
    Wingspan: 83 2/8

    That is an absolute beast of a man physically. Can’t wait to see how he moves.

  39. Sea Mode says:

    👀

    Lawd, have mercy…

    Louisville OT Mekhi Becton

    Height: 6-7 3/8
    Weight: 364
    Hand: 10 6/8
    Arm: 35 5/8
    Wingspan: 83 2/8

    Also very nice:

    Boise State OT Ezra Cleveland

    Height: 6-6
    Weight: 311
    Hand: 9
    Arm: 33 3/8
    Wingspan: 80 3/8

    6-8? Dang… could be a mid round steal if he lasts due to injury.

    Washington OT Trey Adams

    Height: 6-8
    Weight: 318
    Hand: 9 7/8
    Arm: 34 3/8
    Wingspan: 81 4/8

    Kickers are people too lol…

    Georgia K Rodrigo Blankenship

    Height: 6-1
    Weight: 190
    Hand: 9
    Arm: 30 5/8
    Wingspan: 73 1/8

  40. Sea Mode says:

    Bob Condotta
    @bcondotta
    ·10m

    Hunter Bryant says he hasn’t had an official meeting with Seahawks but has talked to them informally. Ended up on same flight to Indy as John Schneider and says they briefly chatted.

    “Ended up” on the same flight… Riiiiight… 😉😜

    Looks like it’s time for me to get the meetings tracker up and running again.

  41. Trevor says:

    Moss and Delpit from LSU also not working out at combine. What’s up? I guess Delpit I can understand because he is recovering from the bum ankle. This trend in recent years only seems to be growing.

  42. Sea Mode says:

    Here are links to two Combine Results tables.

    The one I usually follow every year during the Combine, usually updated fairly quickly and will later add testing results as well. I have sent them an email requesting they include wingspan. Not sure why that got left out.

    Direct link:
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vR5ogwjUT3w0BeMZFndmJwLvoTtQwrLBVCs285iDiIwHhSZ_lFiHJnzCll0JUJ6SMadOuX5zoGfJqRq/pubhtml#

    (On Steelers Depot page:
    https://steelersdepot.com/2020-nfl-scouting-combine-results-tracker/)

    And this year PFN also has a pretty nice format going for measurements, with really useful search and sort functions:
    https://www.profootballnetwork.com/2020-nfl-scouting-combine-weigh-in-measurements/

  43. Sea Mode says:

    Dang, the Georgia duo!

    Georgia OT Andrew Thomas

    Height: 6-5 1/8
    Weight: 315
    Hand: 10 2/8
    Arm: 36 1/8
    Wingspan: 83 4/8

    Georgia OT Isaiah Wilson

    Height: 6-6 4/8
    Weight: 350
    Hand: 10 2/8
    Arm: 35 4/8
    Wingspan: 84 3/8

    Nice as well:
    Iowa OT Tristan Wirfs

    Height: 6-4 7/8
    Weight: 320
    Hand: 10 2/8
    Arm: 34
    Wingspan: 80 2/8

    Solid:

    Auburn OT Prince Tega Wanogho

    Height: 6-5
    Weight: 308
    Hand: 10 3/8
    Arm: 33 4/8
    Wingspan: 80 6/8

    • Rob Staton says:

      Not surprised at all with the Georgia duo.

      Absolute joke how much other OT’s get talked up by the media and these two get buried.

      Some were arguing (DJ) that Thomas is seen as a guard — at 6-5, 315lbs with +36 inch arms. That’s prototype top tier left tackle size.

  44. Sea Mode says:

    And Cesar Ruiz passes the 33″ threshold!

    Michigan OC Cesar Ruiz

    Height: 6-2 6/8
    Weight: 307
    Hand: 11
    Arm: 33 1/8
    Wingspan: 79 5/8

    Also, didn’t you mention Peart the other day:

    Connecticut OT Matt Peart

    Height: 6-6 5/8
    Weight: 318
    Hand: 9 4/8
    Arm: 36 5/8
    Wingspan: 86 4/8

  45. Sea Mode says:

    Shane Lemieux (32 1/4) fell short as did Netane Muti (31 3/4).

    Damien Lewis checks out, though, for length, although he is a little on the shorter side at 6-2:

    LSU OG Damien Lewis

    Height: 6-2
    Weight: 327
    Hand: 10 2/8
    Arm: 33
    Wingspan: 79 4/8

    • Rob Staton says:

      Shame for Lemieux. Can imagine them liking him a lot.

      • Sea Mode says:

        Saw your comment about him last thread after checking him out. Seemed like there was a lot to like.

        I’m thinking we add one outside and one inside prospect on the OL. One in R1-R2 range and one later on (probably the Tackle early and the Guard later on, unless they end up going for Ruiz or a Center)

  46. Sea Mode says:

    We knew it was gonna be deep, but I didn’t think this many OL would have great length. Pretty awesome year to add one or two.

    TCU OT Lucas Niang

    Height: 6-6
    Weight: 315
    Hand: 10 4/8
    Arm: 34 2/8
    Wingspan: 83 1/8

    Alabama OT Jedrick Wills

    Height: 6-4 2/8
    Weight: 312
    Hand: 10
    Arm: 34 2/8
    Wingspan: 83 4/8

    • Rob Staton says:

      Makes life very easy for Seattle.

      Free agency — D-line
      First pick — replace Ifedi

      • Sea Mode says:

        Agree.

        I’m thinking/dreaming of something like:

        R1- OT Isaiah Wilson

        R2- (trade up w/R4) DT Raekwon Davis
        (or if his attitude doesn’t check out, then we could splurge on a WR here instead of later. Maybe even Raegor lasts for some reason.)

        R2- LB Willie Gay Jr

        R3- WR (Someone good is going to still be there. There are too many of them this year.)
        or RB Clyde Edwards-Helaire

        • bigten says:

          Sign me up for that. All though i wouldn’t be super disappointed in replacing Willie Gay with one of the wr that drops to that pick and CEH in the third.

          • Sea Mode says:

            Could be an option. Rob just mocked CEH in R1 though, and after his Combine performance we might see others following suit, so late R3 might be very, very wishful thinking at this point.

  47. Sea Mode says:

    Oooh, RB measurements rolling in!

    The diminuitive duo!

    Maryland RB Anthony McFarland

    Height: 5-8 1/8
    Weight: 208
    Hand: 8 7/8
    Arm: 30 3/8
    Wingspan: 73 3/8

    LSU RB Clyde Edwards-Helaire

    Height: 5-7 2/8
    Weight: 207
    Hand: 9 5/8
    Arm: 29
    Wingspan: 70 5/8

    • Sea Mode says:

      Dang, they’re all tiny this year except for AJ Dillon and this guy who I know nothing about:

      Memphis RB Patrick Taylor

      Height: 6-1 4/8
      Weight: 217
      Hand: 9 3/8
      Arm: 32 2/8
      Wingspan: 75 5/8

      Seattle’s gonna have a field day in the 5-10, 220 range (or just under that, proportionally)

      Also, who invited this guy…???

      Arizona RB J.J. Taylor

      Height: 5-5 2/8
      Weight: 185
      Hand: 8 4/8
      Arm: 28 6/8
      Wingspan: 71 2/8

    • Ashish says:

      Any chance they are available at the end of 3rd round?

  48. Kingdome1976 says:

    Keep these stats rolling in. This is great guys, thanks a bunch.

    Also I was wondering what you guys think of letting go of Britt and Ifedi and using 2 of our first 4 picks to replace them. Any thoughts?

  49. CaptainJack says:

    Yeah JJ Taylor may be small but he’s really talented.

    Tarik Cohen has been good and he’s a similar size