Today the defensive linemen and linebackers were weighed and measured, while the offensive linemen and tight ends ran drills.
Yesterday Kip highlighted an article that discussed Bill Walsh’s ‘ideal defensive tackle’. As we all know by now, Walsh and Pete Carroll are closely connected. The listed height and weight of Walsh’s ideal interior lineman was 6-2 and 290lbs. Sheldon Richardson is 6-2 and 294lbs officially. Once again, I refer to Kip:
I think Richardson will probably go in the top 14 picks- I just can’t see him getting past Carolina barring a disaster. Richardson stands so far ahead of his peers at collapsing the pocket that I’d say he’s worth trading up for, even though it will mean losing picks in a draft where a 2nd rounder feels an awful lot like a 1st.
Would it be expensive? Sure. Is it likely? Probably not. But I dare anyone to tell me they wouldn’t be excited about seeing Sheldon Richardson lining up in Seattle’s defensive line for the next few years.
Defensive lineman – height, weight, arm length
Ziggy Ansah – 6-5, 271lbs, 35.18′ arms
Armonty Bryant – 6-4, 263lbs, 35.68′ arms
Tank Carradine – 6-4, 276lbs, 34.68′ arms
Quinton Dial – 6-5, 318lbs, 34.48′ arms
Sharrif Floyd – 6-3, 297lbs, 31.68′ arms
Johnathan Hankins – 6-3, 320lbs, 33.08′ arms
Jordan Hill – 6-1, 303lbs, 33.48′ arms
Montori Hughes – 6-4, 329lbs, 32.58′ arms
Margus Hunt – 6-8, 277lbs, 33.68′ arms
John Jenkins – 6-4, 359lbs, 34.08′ arms
Datone Jones – 6-4, 283lbs, 32.68′ arms
Dion Jordan – 6-6, 248lbs, 33.78′ arms
Corey Lemonier – 6-3, 255lbs, 34.48′ arms
Bennie Logan – 6-2, 309lbs, 34.08′ arms
Star Lotulelei – 6-3, 311lbs, 33.58′ arms
Barkevious Mingo – 6-4, 241lbs, 33.68′ arms
Alex Okafor – 6-5, 264lbs, 33.78′ arms
Kawann Short – 6-3, 299lbs, 34.68′ arms
Bjoern Werner – 6-3, 266lbs, 33.28′ arms
Brandon Williams – 6-1, 335lbs, 32.58′ arms
Jesse Williams – 6-3, 323lbs, 32.08′ arms
Sylvester Williams – 6-3, 313lbs, 33.48′ arms
Linebackers – height, weight
Arthur Brown – 6-0. 241lbs
Zaviar Gooden – 6-1, 234lbs
Khaseem Greene – 6-1, 241lbs
Jarvis Jones – 6-2, 245lbs
Kevin Minter – 6-0, 246lbs
Alec Ogletree – 6-2, 242lbs
Manti Te’o – 6-1, 241lbs
If I’ve missed any players out that you want to check up on, Walter Football has the full listings here.
Kawann Short had the most eye-catching weight — he certainly didn’t look like a 299lbs defensive tackle on tape. He appears to be slimming down to fit into a more orthodox three-technique role. He won’t do drills tomorrow due to injury.
It was good to see Dion Jordan close to 250lbs after some speculation he’d played the 2012 season at closer to 230lbs. I think as the draft process continues, he’ll develop into a top-five shoe-in. Incredible upside. He should test well tomorrow.
Sharrif Floyd had considerably shorter arms than the other defensive linemen — 31.68 inches to be exact. As a comparison, that’s three inches shorter than Kawann Short. None of the lineman listed above had arms shorter than 32 inches in length apart from Floyd. This could be an issue when he tries to disengage and gain leverage. He wasn’t a great pass rusher at Florida.
Oklahoma tackle puts on a clinic, Fluker struggles
Lane Johnson can feel pretty good about his time in Indianapolis. He ran an impressive 4.72 today, managed 28 reps on the bench press despite +35 inch arms and overall looked the part of a franchise left tackle. Any team that misses out on Eric Fisher and Luke Joeckel can feel very comfortable about Johnson as the fall back.
It’s pretty pointless concentrating too much on offensive line forty times on the whole. None of the other tackles or guards got close to Johnson, apart from Arkansas Pine-Bluff’s Terron Armstead who managed a 4.71.
Looking back at the footage of today’s drills, D.J. Fluker continues to concern me. He ran a 5.35 and a 5.32 but generally looked sloppy in the mobility drills despite losing 16lbs since the Senior Bowl. He’s managed to generate some hype since the SEC Championship game where he dominated Georgia’s defensive line. I’m not convinced it was totally warranted. He’s still a bog standard right tackle who’ll be better off moving inside to guard — at least in my opinion. Watching him struggle to get around today just highlights how much he’s going to struggle defending the edge — something that flashed on tape time and time again. He doesn’t play well against speed. He’ll be challenged by speed every week in the NFL and I’d be worried about that.
Personally, I wouldn’t want to take a guy who might work out at right tackle in round one. If I’m drafting him that early, I have to believe he can be an all-pro guard. Personally, I’d probably rather draft Larry Warford to fill that role. I have a real dislike for drafting right tackles in round one. Seattle’s experience with James Carpenter being a classic example. I was a big fan of Carpenter in college, much more so than Fluker. But the Seahawks drafted Carpenter, were forced to kick him inside when he struggled at tackle and then replaced him with a former 5th round pick.
You don’t need to spend big on a right tackle. And Fluker isn’t good enough to be the exception. I hope he’s off the board by #25, because it means a better player will be available for the Seahawks.
Speaking of Warford, he ran an epic 5.53 and a 5.68 today. Part of me hoped that was a shirtless attempt, just for old times sake. Chance Warmack wasn’t much better at 5.55 and 5.53 — not that it matters in the slightest. Warmack will be a fantastic guard at the next level.
Tony Pauline believed Jonathan Cooper outperformed Warmack, while Eric Fisher was also getting the better of Luke Joeckel:
Must say to this point Eric Fisher out performing Luke Joeckel and Jon Cooper out performing Chance Warmack.
— Tony Pauline (@TonyPauline) February 23, 2013
I thought Cooper had a fantastic work out today and if he gets out of the top fifteen, whoever drafts him is getting a steal. He can probably play either of the guard positions or center. Teams value the center position strongly these days, almost as much as left tackle. That could give him an edge versus Warmack.
Tight ends fail to impress
I thought it was a bitterly disappointing day for the tight ends in the forty yard dash. None of them ran as fast as expected. Zach Ertz only managed a 4.76, Gavin Escobar a 4.84, Jordan Reed a 4.72 and Tyler Eifert a 4.68. In the last three years, thirteen tight ends have run faster than Eifert who was among the quickest this year. Lane Johnson at 303lbs ran faster than Ertz and Escobar and matched Jordan Reed’s time. Take that in for a moment. Can Johnson catch?
I doubt the lousy times will hurt the tight ends too much, but what it won’t do is vault any of them into the top half of round one. If Reed managed a time in the 4.5’s he could’ve become a legit first round option. He runs in the 4.7’s and probably settles somewhere in rounds two or three. Had Ertz managed a 4.5, he could’ve been a lock for the top-20. He might still go in that range given his career at Stanford and solid tape. Eifert remains firmly in the round two range for me.
What about Escobar? His stock seemed to be trending upwards in a big way and I had him in round one recently. However, a 4.84 isn’t going to get anyone out of their seat. He’s a dynamic, big target. But he’s clearly not an insane athlete. His best asset is his hands.
Eifert looked the most athletic in terms of physical appearance and I thought Ertz looked a little stiff in drills. Reed overall didn’t show the kind of explosive athleticism I expected to see. And while physically he compares to Aaron Hernandez, I wouldn’t compare the two players based on tape.
Arkansas’ Chris Gragg ran a 4.50. Kudos for him. He’s talented but suffered (like everyone) due to the Razorbacks’ decision to take a year off from taking football seriously in 2012. Vance McDonald managed a 4.69 which is particularly ‘meh’ considering he doesn’t look comfortable catching a football on tape.
Another day, another withdrawal. This time Alex Okafor has decided not to run a slow time… errr… I mean rest a hip flexor by not working out. Dallas Thomas will also be absent with a torn labrum — an injury that kept him out of the Senior Bowl.
There are also concerns over Arthur Brown’s shoulder injury that kept him from competing in Mobile. He was a last minute withdrawal from the Senior Bowl and didn’t tell anyone in advance that he was hurt. It’s unclear whether he’ll do drills tomorrow.
Jarvis Jones conducted a press conference discussing his spinal stenosis issue. He won’t work out at the combine, a decision which puts a lot of pressure on his pro-day. Just a hunch, but I can’t see Jones being a first round pick at this stage. Too much risk, and he’s clearly hiding by not testing in Indianapolis.
Jones on stenosis: I have a slight narrowing in my spine. Some of ya’ll probably have it and you don’t know. — Dan Kadar (@MockingTheDraft) February 23, 2013
Jones: I don’t have no contusion in it. I only had one accident of having a stringer at USC. Never had any symptoms after that.
— Dan Kadar (@MockingTheDraft) February 23, 2013
Day four links
Danny Kelly notes that Markus Wheaton managed 20 reps of the bench press at 5-11 and 189lbs. In other words, nearly as many as massive lineman Travis Frederick. Wheaton is incredibly underrated. Just like DeAndre Hopkins and Steadman Bailey. We’ll see if size matters in April.
Manti Te’o faced the media today. I wonder what they asked him about?
Tomorrow I’ll be live blogging throughout the defensive lineman/linebacker drills. Hope to see you there.
One final note — who allowed Under Armour to dress this year’s prospects like they’re going to a 90’s rave in their underwear?