Senior Bowl 2020 Day One (including measurements)

January 21st, 2020 | Written by Rob Staton

If you missed yesterday’s Senior Bowl preview, check it out here.

I will update this post throughout the day so keep checking back and refreshing.

It’s been revealed that Brandon Aiyuk and Leki Fotu will not work out in Mobile due to failed physicals. Derek Brown, Joe Burrow and Travon Diggs all received invitations but declined to attend. Raekwon Davis was listed on the roster but has pulled out apparently due to an ankle injury. Trey Adams is not taking part and there’s unconfirmed talk that Price Tega Wanogho also won’t practise. They are some significant names. What a shame.

Today’s measurement’s are important. It helps us identify potential Seahawks. For example, by now we know all about Seattle’s preference for long cornerbacks with +32 inch arms. They also, however, have quite strict preferences for running backs (5-10, 225lbs range) and linemen (+33 inch arms).

For a full list of measurements click here. I’m going to note some of the highlights below.

My initial impressions are as follows:

— Javon Kinlaw has been a top-12 lock throughout the process. Don’t be surprised if he rises further after this week. He reportedly delivered a fantastic media session last night and now he’s measured in at 6-5 and 315lbs with near 35-inch arms and a wingspan of 84 inches. That’s incredible. He’s exactly the type of player the Seahawks need but he’ll be long gone.

— Jabari Zuniga, Darrell Taylor and Terrell Lewis all measured in the range for potential DE’s in Seattle. Hopefully they are healthy and have a good week. Bradlee Anae and Kenny Willekes likely don’t have the necessary quickness or athletic profile but neither measured in Seattle’s range today anyway.

— Logan Stenberg and John Simpson both measured sufficiently in Seattle’s ballpark. Phew. Ben Bredeson is a bit short in terms of arm length. UConn’s Matt Peart measured superbly and will be someone to watch during practise. Nick Harris is small as expected — although they used Joey Hunt for a large part of this season at center.

— Harrison Bryant has short arms and a small wingspan. He isn’t likely to be on the radar. It’s also confirmed today that Josh Uche and Zach Baun are SAM prospects and not LEO’s.

— Justin Herbert has prototype size — height, weight, hands.

— We’ve been saying for a long time that Brandon Aiyuk is going to be a high pick. Having 33 1/8 inch arms, a wingspan of 81 inches and 10 inch hands will simply elevate his stock even more.

Measurements

Jabari Zuniga (DE, Florida)
Height: 6-3
Weight: 253
Arm length: 33 1/8
Wingspan: 79 6/8
Hands: 10

Marlon Davidson (DE, Auburn)
Height: 6-3
Weight: 297
Arm length: 32 7/8
Wingspan: 80 4/8
Hands: 9 1/2

Kyle Dugger (S, Lenoir Rhyne)
Height: 6-0
Weight: 217
Arm length: 32 6/8
Wingspan: 78
Hands: 10 1/8

Javon Kinlaw (DT, South Carolina)
Height: 6-5
Weight: 315
Arm length: 34 5/8
Wingspan: 84
Hands: 10 1/8

Josiah Coatney (DT, Ole Miss)
Height: 6-3
Weight: 309
Arm length: 33 1/8
Wingspan: 76 6/8
Hands: 9 1/2

Darrell Taylor (DE, Tennessee)
Height: 6-3
Weight: 259
Arm length: 33
Wingspan: 80 6/8
Hands: 10

Jonathan Greenard (DE, Florida)
Height: 6-3
Weight: 262
Arm length: 33 1/2
Wingspan: 81 1/8
Hands: 9

Terrell Lewis (DE, Alabama)
Height: 6-5
Weight: 258
Arm length: 34 1/8
Wingspan: 83 1/2
Hands: 10

Logan Stenberg (G, Kentucky)
Height: 6-6
Weight: 317
Arm length: 33 1/8
Wingspan: 79 5/8
Hands: 9 6/8

John Simpson (G, Clemson)
Height: 6-4
Weight: 330
Arm length: 33 6/8
Wingspan:
Hands: 1182 6/8

Lloyd Cushenberry (C, LSU)
Height: 6-3
Weight: 312
Arm length: 34 5/8
Wingspan: 83 1/8
Hands: 10 1/2

Prince Tega Wanogho (T, Auburn)
Height: 6-5
Weight: 307
Arm length: 33 1/8
Wingspan: 79 1/2
Hands: 10 1/8

Tyre Phillips (T, South Carolina)
Height: 6-5
Weight: 342
Arm length: 34 2/8
Wingspan: 84 5/8
Hands: 10 5/8

Steven Montez (QB, Colorado)
Height: 6-4
Weight: 240
Arm length: 32 3/8
Wingspan: 76 3/8
Hands: 9 3/8

Jalen Hurts (QB, Oklahoma)
Height: 6-1
Weight: 218
Arm length: 31 7/8
Wingspan: 77 1/2
Hands: 9 1/2

Justin Herbert (QB, Oregon)
Height: 6-6
Weight: 227
Arm length: 33 3/8
Wingspan: 78 7/8
Hands: 10

Eno Benjamin (RB, Arizona State)
Height: 5-9
Weight: 195
Arm length: 30 6/8
Wingspan: 75
Hands: 8 3/8

Lamical Perine (RB, Florida)
Height: 5-10
Weight: 211
Arm length: 31 7/8
Wingspan: 73 1/8
Hands: 9 6/8

Jared Pinkney (TE, Vanderbilt)
Height: 6-4
Weight: 254
Arm length: 32 6/8
Wingspan: 79 1/2
Hands: 10 5/8

Harrison Bryant (TE, Florida Atlantic)
Height: 6-4
Weight: 242
Arm length: 31 3/8
Wingspan: 74
Hands: 9 2/8

Jauan Jennings (WR, Tennessee)
Height: 6-3
Weight: 206
Arm length: 32 7/8
Wingspan: 76 1/2
Hands: 9

Van Jefferson (WR, Florida)
Height: 6-1
Weight: 217
Arm length: 32 1/8
Wingspan: 77 1/8
Hands: 9 1/8

Ashtyn Davis (S, California)
Height: 6-1
Weight: 195
Arm length: 31 3/8
Wingspan: 75
Hands: 9 2/8

Neville Gallimore (DT, Oklahoma)
Height: 6-2
Weight: 304
Arm length: 32 7/8
Wingspan: 78 2/8
Hands: 10

Leki Fotu (DT, Utah)
Height: 6-5
Weight: 337
Arm length: 33 7/8
Wingspan: 79 2/8
Hands: 10 2/8

Josh Uche (LB, Michigan)
Height: 6-1
Weight: 241
Arm length: 33 2/8
Wingspan: 79 7/8
Hands: 9 1/2

Bradlee Anae (DE, Utah)
Height: 6-3
Weight: 257
Arm length: 31 7/8
Wingspan: 78
Hands: 9 1/2

Kenny Willekes (DE, Michigan State)
Height: 6-3
Weight: 252
Arm length: 31 2/8
Wingspan: 78 2/8
Hands: 9 3/4

Nick Harris (C, Washington)
Height: 6-1
Weight: 293
Arm length: 32 3/8
Wingspan: 77 3/8
Hands: 9 1/2

Matt Hennessy (C, Temple)
Height: 6-4
Weight: 302
Arm length: 32 3/8
Wingspan: 79 5/8
Hands: 10 1/8

Zach Baun (LB, Wisconsin)
Height: 6-2
Weight: 240
Arm length: 32 1/8
Wingspan: 78
Hands: 9 5/8

Matt Peart (T, Connecticut)
Height: 6-6
Weight: 310
Arm length: 35 1/8
Wingspan: 86 1/8
Hands: 9 3/4

Josh Jones (T, Houston)
Height: 6-5
Weight: 311
Arm length: 33 5/8
Wingspan: 80 1/2
Hands: 10 1/8

Colton McKivitz (T, West Virginia)
Height: 6-6
Weight: 304
Arm length: 33 2/8
Wingspan: 81 3/8
Hands: 10 1/4

Michael Pittman Jr (WR, USC)
Height: 6-3
Weight: 219
Arm length: 32 3/8
Wingspan: 78 1/2
Hands: 9 1/8

KJ Hill (WR, Ohio State)
Height: 6-0
Weight: 192
Arm length: 29
Wingspan: 72
Hands: 9

Jordan Love (QB, Utah State)
Height: 6-3
Weight: 223
Arm length: 33 3/8
Wingspan: 79 7/8
Hands: 10 5/8

Ben Brederson (G, Michigan)
Height: 6-4
Weight: 316
Arm length: 32 1/8
Wingspan: 78
Hands: 9 5/8

Lamar Jackson (CB, Nebraska)
Height: 6-2
Weight: 206
Arm length: 32 1/8
Wingspan: 78
Hands: 9 5/8

Brycen Hopkins (TE, Purdue)
Height: 6-3
Weight: 241
Arm length: 32
Wingspan: 76 1/2
Hands: 10 1/8

Antonio Gandy-Golden (WR, Liberty)
Height: 6-3
Weight: 222
Arm Length: 32 2/8
Wingspan: 77 2/8
Hands: 9 5/8

Brandon Aiyuk (WR, Arizona State)
Height: 5-11
Weight: 201
Arm Length: 33 1/8
Wingspan: 81
Hands: 10

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128 Responses to “Senior Bowl 2020 Day One (including measurements)”

  1. Zxvo3 says:

    Brandon Aiyuk can’t practice this week because of injury red flags. Bummer. Really wanted to see him on 1v1’s

    • Sea Mode says:

      I say: let him fall! Imagine if it came to our pick and both Aiyuk and Reagor were still on the board… ideal.

  2. Ralphy says:

    Rob,

    Do you think we will ever see the Hawks trade up in round one? I’m fairly certain you will say no, just curious.

    • Rob Staton says:

      I highly doubt it.

      And let’s be honest, who are they trading up for? When New Orleans moved from #27 to #14 it cost them two first round picks and a fifth round pick. And by #14 Young & Kinlaw will be gone.

      • When I read first part of your post I just wanted to say :”Kinlaw”. He is the only player I could see they trade up. And with one of their second round picks they could get into 15-17pick range.

        • Sea Mode says:

          I think it would take way more than just a R2 pick. Probably both R2 picks.

          • Ralphy says:

            Kinlaw is exactly who I was thinking. I know they likely won’t and I’m excited with what they can do with fixing the TE and WR position in rounds one and two. The thought of a player like that though is exciting.

            • Rob Staton says:

              Kinlaw is exactly what they need. But picking at #27 the compensation is so extreme. He will probably go in the top-10. They might have to give up two first rounders and two second rounders.

              • Sea Mode says:

                Definitely not worth that much draft capital straight up. Can’t put that many eggs into one basket, even if it is one heck of a basket…

                As a dream scenario, are there any players we could package with picks to get creative?

                2019 R1 + R2 (save our other R2 for a WR or TE)
                2020 R2
                +
                a. Jarran Reed? (tag and trade)
                b. McDougald? (go younger with Blair)
                c. KJ? (don’t think he has that much value to other teams)
                d. Penny? (and use our R2 or R3 on Zach Moss)

                A man can dream…

        • Rob Staton says:

          It cost the Saints two first rounders to move from #27 to #14. I doubt two second rounders would get it done — or that the Seahawks would be interested in giving up their two second rounders.

          • @rob @seamode

            By draft chart value:
            27th+59th=16th pick
            27+64=17

            And i know saints gave up two firsts to jump from 27 to 14. But next year’s pick always values less and everyone new that Saints pick from next year would be late 1st.

            • Sea Mode says:

              I know, I checked the trade chart too. It just doesn’t usually work that way unless a team is desperate to move down for some reason. Especially if you are looking to move into the top 10, which is probably where we would need to be to secure Kinlaw.

              • Top 10 is definitely out of our range. It would just cost us to much. But
                Burrow, Herbert, Young, Okudah, Brown, Tomas, Lamb, Simmons…and after that maybe some teams just need OT or WR much more than DT and he could be there around 13,14th pick…

      • Trevor says:

        I would give up at 2021 and 2020 1st round pick if the Hawks could move up for Kinlaw or Derrick Brown.

        Kinlaw in particular is the kind of physical talent and character you can build a dominant defense around.

        • Chiefs gave up 27th pick + 3rd round pick + next year 1st round for 10th pick.

        • Trevor says:

          Think about it would you trade our last 2 first round picks (Penny and Collier) for him?

        • Henry Taylor says:

          Would be ecstatic, highly doubt it though.

        • Rob Staton says:

          I really like him. But it’s a massive price for a non-QB. Imagine doing such a deal for Solomon Thomas in 2017, another player who looked awesome and then tested through the roof. He looked like a special, special player.

          • Trevor says:

            I agree completely Rob it is a ton to give up but this defense needs a huge talent infusion.

            While no prospect is a lock Brown and Kinlaw play DT which seems easier to project at the next level than most. Both are said to be leaders, have great work ethic and character.

            Imagine what this defense would look like for the next 4-5 years if they somehow drafted Kinlaw then signed Clowney and Fowler. That DL would be off the charts and really young.

  3. Sea Mode says:

    Early 32″ arm length DB club entries:
    (reminder we also like 77.5″ wingspan; qualifiers marked with *)

    From Senior Bowl:
    *S Kyle Dugger, Lenoir Rhyne, 6006, 217, 10 1/8 hand, 32 3/4 arm, 78 wing
    *DB Reggie Robinson II, Tulsa, 6010, 202, 8 1/4 hand, 32 3/8 arm, 76 3/8 wing
    CB Michael Ojemudia, Iowa, 6002, 199, 9 hand, 32 1/8 arm, 77 1/8 wing
    *CB Lamar Jackson, Nebraska, 6022, 206, 9 5/8 hand, 32 1/8 arm, 78 wing

    S Josh Metellus Michigan, 5111, 210, 10 1/8 hand, 32 1/8 arm, 75 wing
    S Jalen Elliott, Notre Dame, 6004, 205, 9 1/8 hand, 32 arm, 76 5/8 wing
    S Jeremy Chinn, Southern Illinois, 6031, 219, 9 1/2 hand, 32 arm, 77 wing
    S Brian Cole II, Mississippi State, 6017, 205, 10 hand, 3200 arm, 76 1/8 wing

    and two guys just an 1/8 of an inch off on arm length with size for slot/hybrid:

    CB Kindle Vildor, Georgia Southern, 5010 185 9 hand, 31 7/8 arm, 74 5/8 wing
    S Jared Mayden, Alabama, 5117, 201, 8 5/8 hand, 31 7/8 arm, 75 wing

    From Shrine Game:
    CB Lavert Hill, Michigan, 5096, 185, 8 1/2 hand, 32 3/4 arm, 74 1/2 wing
    *S David Dowell, Michigan St., 6000, 199, 9 1/8 hand, 32 1/2 arm, 80 wing
    CB Stantley Thomas-Oliver, Florida International, 6002, 183, 9 1/2 hand, 32 arm, 74 7/8 wing
    CB Nevelle Clarke, Central Florida, 6007, 179, 9 1/4 hand, 32 arm, 76 7/8 wing

    Gonna include guys with decent wingspans who were over 31.5″ arm length, because Shrine game measurements tend to run a bit shorter than Senior Bowl/Combine:

    CB Kieth Washington II, West Virginia, 6003, 175, 9 1/2 hand, 31 7/8 arm, 74 7/8 wing
    CB Luq Barcoo, San Diego St., 6001, 172, 9 hand, 31 3/4 arm, 76 1/8 wing
    S Patrick Nelson, S.M.U., 5111, 213, 9 1/4 hand, 31 3/4 arm, 77 wing
    S Jeremiah Dinson, Auburn, 5111, 189, 9 1/2 hand, 31 5/8 arm, 76 1/8 wing

    My Thoughts
    – You can definitely notice Jim Nagy’s stamp on the Senior Bowl scouting. Prioritizing lots of guys who hit the 32″ mark.
    – My guys Dane Jackson and Essang Bassey are pretty small. 😢 Could still be considered for slot, I guess.
    – Good wingspan is hard to come by. Only 4 true qualifiers for the Seahawks’ 32 arm, 77.5 wing threshold: Kyle Dugger, Reggie Robinson, Lamar Jackson, David Dowell (and only Jackson is listed as a CB).
    – Let me know if you find any that I missed and I will try to keep the list running throughout draft season.
    – Let us all know if you check into any guys on the list and like their game!

  4. From pff top 100:

    16. EDGE CURTIS WEAVER, BOISE STATE
    An ankle injury limited Weaver down the stretch, but he still finished with a pass-rushing grade over 92.0 for the second consecutive season. He’s the only player we’ve ever graded with multiple such seasons.

  5. cha says:

    Adam Schefter

    Verified account

    @AdamSchefter
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    DE Demon Clowney, the 148th ranked player in the country and cousin of Seahawks’ DE Jadeveon Clowney, has committed to Ole Miss. He’s Lane Kiffin’s highest profile recruit yet at Ole Miss.

    “What should we name our son, honey?”

    “hmm…I like Demon. He will torment QBs relentlessly”

  6. BJ Hill 29″ arms. Not sure Ive seen arms that short. Thanks for the info as this is great stuff.

  7. schuemansky says:

    Any thoughts on Trevis Gipson, Tulsa, DE, 6’3” 259 lbs, 34 1/8 arms?

    Said in an interview that he models his game after Frank Clark.

    The only vid I saw were some highlights where he looks quite dynamic.

  8. Trevor says:

    Really disappointed Raekwon Dayis is not participating and never even showed up for weigh ins. I was a big fan but his tape this past season was a bit meh. Seemed like he had Calais Campbell upside but never seemed to improve at Alabama. I wonder if he is a competitor? Seems like a guys the Hawks would love from a physical standpoint. At a minimum he should be an elite run stopper at the next level.

    Really thought he would be a top 20 pick but now I think there is every chance he will be on the board at 27. Definitely a guy to keep an eye on IMO.

  9. Very interested to see Darrell Taylor and Jonathan Greenard practice. I remember Jim Nagy calling Greenard a dog. Always interested in what he says.

  10. Trevor says:

    Rob what are your thoughts on the idea of having Phil Haynes / Pocic battle for the starting Centre spot then draft a guy like Stenberg to compete for one of the Guard spots?

    Love Ruiz but he is going to go early and this team has bigger needs to address early in the draft. The other guy I love is Nick Harris I just am not sure Solari will be too excited about another under sized C no matter how good he is.

    Also even if we resign Fant or Ifedi seems like there might be a need to draft a developmental OT at some point on Day #3 unless they believe Chad Wheeler can be a swing tackle backup.

    2020 OL
    LT Brown
    LG Jones or Stenberg
    C Haynes or Pocic
    RG Fluker or Stenberg
    RT Fant or Ifedi

    • Sea Mode says:

      Of course, it will depend on whether they need the extra money to spend on FA signings, but I’m leaning more and more towards just keeping Britt. We know what we can get from him, and it’s important not to shuffle the entire line around, especially if we already might have some change on the right side.

      Just draft another R3-R4 Guard to develop along with Haynes and stick to the plan IMO. Kind of in the line of thinking of CHawk Talker Eric’s comments from yesterday. Don’t create a hole where we don’t have one.

      Would be nice if Pocic finally came around, but at this point I’m not going to bank on it.

    • Rob Staton says:

      I wouldn’t want to go into the new season with Pocic (shown nothing so far) and Haynes (barely played center) as the two guys you’re relying on there. If they don’t draft a center then they have to either cut/re-sign Britt or find another veteran like Alex Mack.

      • Trevor says:

        If they can extend / re-structure Britt to reduce the cap number it really does make the most sense I guess.

    • CHawk Talker Eric says:

      I like Ruiz a lot but why are we talking about spending our first pick on a position that isn’t a need? No matter how good a prospect Ruiz seems to be, it’s highly unlikely he’d be able to outplay Britt next year. Or even the year after. Britt is a good center playing his best football and entering his prime years. His injury isn’t a concern long term (at least it shouldn’t be). The only issue is his cap hit. So go ahead and cut/resign or extend him to lower it.

      But regardless, I don’t think it’s in the team’s best interest to spend it’s top pick on a position that isn’t really a need. We need an EDGE, a TE, a DT, a NCB, a WR and others more than a C.

  11. Sea Mode says:

    Holy smokes…

    OT Alex Taylor, South Carolina St., 6084, 308, 11 hand, 36 1/8 arm, 88 wing

    Don’t think I’ve ever seen a football prospect with an 88″ wingspan. I think Kevin Durant has 88.5″, but that’s approximate cause I guess nobody knows exactly. Either way, that’s pretty insane.

    Biggest I have from the past few years was:

    OT Julien Davenport, Bucknell, 6066, 310, 36 arm, 87 1/2, wing

  12. Sea Mode says:

    Ah, yes, good ole’ scout’s typo. Was looking through the list of anyone over 34″ arms, and one of them was not like the others… 😂🤣

    WR Johnathan Johnson, Missouri, 5075, 170, 9 1/2 hand, 34 1/8 arm, 71 3/4 wing

  13. Bigten says:

    Rob, if you had to choose between Stenberg and Harris for us with a second round pick, who would you suggest? I personally think center might be a more needed
    Position than guard, but really like Stenberg and would prefer him as a prospect. And curious if you think Stenberg goes that early, or is early or later in your mind.

  14. Eburgz says:

    Some really good measurements on Terrell Lewis for an edge rusher, plenty big enough to go with his obvious athleticism, and he passed the physical so that’s good. Feel like the failed physicals are usually for hernias and heart conditions.

    Cushenberry and Simpson with good size and length for interior OL. Alex Taylor is huge.

    Lamar Jackson with the length the hawks like at CB.

    DL Leki Fotu (shame he can’t play) and LSU TE Sullivan also stood out on paper.

    All-Senior bowl draft:
    R1 Terell Lewis EDGE
    R2 Brandon Aiyuk WR (Gandy-Golden if you think Aiyuk doesn’t last)
    R2 Lloyd Cushenberry OL
    R3 John Simpson OL
    R4 Leki Fotu DL
    R4 Lamar Jackson CB
    R5 Rodrigo Blankenship K
    R6 Sullivan TE

  15. Rob Staton says:

    It appears the NFL Network are not showing live coverage of the Senior Bowl this year. Just a few blasts and then a recap later tonight.

    I was planning on providing a practise round-up but might not be possible now unless anyone has a stream for the ESPN coverage?

  16. Ashish says:

    It’s too early but Daniel Jeremiah thinks Javon Kinlaw – DT will fall to 25th, pretty close to hawks pick.

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001097592/article/daniel-jeremiah-2020-nfl-mock-draft-10-four-qbs-in-top-15

    • Rob Staton says:

      Says all you need to know I’m afraid, because Kinlaw isn’t lasting to 25. That’s ridiculous.

      And reading the rest of the mock… oh my. Sorry but it’s a horror show.

      • Ashish says:

        I’m not surprise from the mock draft quality from DJ and others. I have seen writers selecting OT or CB in first round based on 2015 needs :). We love SDB blog because we get latest info based on free agency, trades and all other parameters like player’s size / background etc.
        Appreciate Rob for your hard work because of the blog off season is fun too.

        • Rob Staton says:

          I don’t have all the answers, I get a lot wrong, I’m just a guy in England with a website, I’m not an expert, I am nothing special just someone with a patient wife who doesn’t mind me watching a ridiculous amount of CFB.

          But DJ is an absolute blagger. A bloke who spent five mins in the league and used twitter to pump up his profile. His top 50’s and mocks get massive public attention and airplay and everyone reacts as if he’s an authority. It’s all crap. Sorry to be so blunt but it is.

          • Trevor says:

            Rob is there anyone you pay close attention to in the National Media for draft insight besides Tony Pauline?

            I kind of like the stuff Albert Breer does for MMQB. He doesn’t claim to be a draft expert but has good contacts in the league and seems to do his research.

            • Rob Staton says:

              I pay attention to Tony’s info which is top notch and proven.

              I listen to people like Michael Lombardi.

              I enjoy the entertainment of Kiper & McShay’s podcast’s.

              Used to love Mayock’s enthusiasm and grind.

          • Ashish says:

            It’s true DJ just writes this articles without any base, there is no mechanism to validate your mock with actual results at the end of the day. So you can do whatever with your mock and just so people visit the page by adding weird stuff.

            • icb12 says:

              Sure there is. Look at the top scorers on the Huddle Report over the years; Rob has his final Mock scored there as well every year.

              Simply look at the top guys and pay attention to what they put out. Nobody gets everything right, but the guys at the top are right more than they are wrong.

              Interestingly enough that Keven Harmon with Eat Drink Sleep Football in his Early December Mock had the Seahawks drafting Julian Okwara at 28.

              You’ll notice Daniel Jeremiah is not at the top…

      • Trevor says:

        I really like Becton as a potential RT for the Hawks but at #4 with Andrew Thomas on the board.? Come on. I guess he is trying to create some discussion. At least that is what I hope.

        • Rob Staton says:

          Jeremiah’s first mock draft in 2019….

          — Had Kyler Murray going #32
          — Had Josh Jacobs as the #5 pick
          — Had Greedy Williams at #16
          — Had Nasir Adderley at #22
          — Had Christian Wilkins dropping all the way to #25
          — Had Trayvon Mullen at #27
          — Had Mack Wilson at #28
          — Had Dexter Lawrence falling to #31

          Every mock gets a lot more wrong than right but it was obvious Murray was going very, very early and it was obvious Wilkins/Lawrence would go where they went.

          • Ashish says:

            That’s exactly I mean, no one goes back and check, so this guys just print some garbage and get away with. Same with people who picks the game.

            Again no one is God to predict, so many things goes in decision and there is ripple effect with one pick we understand that. But most of the time, I see hawks picking CB in first round and stop reading.

    • CHawk Talker Eric says:

      That’s the worst mock I’ve ever seen.

    • Trevor says:

      I like Blacklock a lot mocked him to the Hawks when I have done any 7 round mock drafts. But in Round #3 not #1. He has an injury as well.

      If they go for a TCU player in Rd#1 it better be Raegor not Blacklock.

    • Henry Taylor says:

      If the Patriots were to draft Delpit at 23 (they won’t) I’ll throw something through a window.

  17. Rob Staton says:

    Can’t believe the NFL Network are not live from Mobile.

    They keep replaying the same conversation over and over again. Now a crap interview with Thomas Dimitroff. Just show the practise!

    • Rob Staton says:

      Then as soon as the 1v1 drills start for DL vs OL… they go to a commercial.

      Who the hell makes these decision’s? Just awful.

      • Rob Staton says:

        We got two reps on OL vs DL then switched to the terribly boring WR vs CB drills. Then five mins later back to the studio and now showing a replay of the AFC Championship game.

        • MaxC14 says:

          How were you able to view the drills in the first place? Are you also getting full game broadcast of the AFC championship right now on NFL Network?

          • Rob Staton says:

            The NFL Network would broadcast practises daily virtually in full. Yes, there were occasional commercial breaks. Nothing too disruptive though. So you could watch practically the entire week of Senior Bowl action.

            Now, absolutely nothing. We got five minutes and then they started a replay of the AFC Championship game. I’m not even sure Kansas City fans will be arsed about watching that and no other NFL fan is. They have a full crew in Mobile! And all we’re going to get is a roundup at 8pm EST. So that’ll be Daniel Jeremiah boring everyone with a story about the time he was in Baltimore when they drafted Haloti Ngata and passing off ‘nice rep’ as analysis, plus probably a couple of GM interviews and a chat with Justin Herbert.

            What a crock.

            • MaxC14 says:

              Ok, thank you for explaining. I’m also frustrated as it would be great to watch the practices, and I don’t see why they don’t broadcast it. But regardless, looking forward to your analysis of the Senior Bowl.

            • Sea Mode says:

              Haloti Ngata 😂😂😂… so true.

              Every. Single. Time.

    • Sea Mode says:

      Next time you get a chance to talk to Jim Nagy, definitely request he put in a word with NFLN…

    • TomLPDX says:

      Rob, next year, be there!

  18. Volume12 says:

    Lol. Tell em!

    Dayton TE Adam Trautmam: I’d rather put a guy on his back than catch a touchdown.

  19. Denver Hawker says:

    One thing I’m keen to identify is the most likely position of need which will take more shape after FA or course. WR, TE, and IOL seem to be the positions Rob has called out and with good supply of them in the top 65 to choose with our 3 picks.

    I’m hard pressed to see them trade up for Kinlaw simply on the notion they’ll most likely have the D-Line addressed prior to the draft. This isn’t the draft for them to make DL the largest draft positional need.

    Carroll mentioned they need to simply get better. I’m curious if that could mean not retaining someone even if it’s a “good deal”. Looking at Reed, Ifedi, Iupati, Jefferson.

  20. Rob Staton says:

    Well, for the first time in over a decade, looks like I won’t be able to post any thoughts on workouts this year. So unlike a year ago when we could talk a lot about LJ Collier and Kaleb McGary looking fantastic and rising up the board, we’ll be relying on what other people say for any kind of info (and it’s ALWAYS a mixed bag because there are so many people in Mobile these days).

    Absolutely gutting. Thanks for nothing, NFL Network.

  21. Volume12 says:

    Jon Greenard was definitely a winner at the weigh-ins. Longer than I thought and prototype 4-3 DE size

    Lloyd Cushenberry has some exciting length for a C.

  22. Kenny Sloth says:

    Would y’all take Mike Pittman Jr. at 64?

    • Volume12 says:

      If he runs well. I like him. Then again, there’s not many receivers in this class I don’t like.

    • Volume12 says:

      Texas WR Collin Johnson might be separating himself from the pack of big wideouts.

    • Matt says:

      He’s not a natural separator. I really like him but we know the type of WR that RW flourishes with and Pittman, while talented, just doesn’t seem like a great fit IMO.

      I’d prefer Aiyuk or a smaller/separator.

      • Kenny Sloth says:

        Aiyuk going in the first, in fairness.

        It’s a fair question about his separation, like Vol says we see how he runs. Could fall hard with a bad run

        • Matt says:

          TBH, I don’t really care what he ends up running; he just doesn’t separate in game.

          And probably right about Aiyuk. I just prefer that type of player with our QB and our system.

          Now, where I think it can get interesting is if a guy like Claypool falls in the draft and you make him basically what people want Hunter Bryant to be. I mean even if he only becomes a big slot WR on 3rd downs and in the Red Zone – I think it’s kind of a neat idea.

          Otherwise, between the 20s – I want pure speed. It compliments so well with a power run game.

          Assuming the defense gets addressed in FA – would love to see a Aiyuk/Raeger, Sternberg, Edwards-Helaire first 3 picks. I know that seems counterintuitive considering our weaknesses, but those 3 would be really interesting moving forward.

          I do think a RB relatively high is a must. Carson won’t be back in 2021 and Penny’s injury was so bad that even losing half a step dramatically changes his game.

    • Rob Staton says:

      Not for me — doesn’t separate well enough. I want speed.

  23. SoCal12 says:

    Are Jabari Zuniga’s injury concerning? I’ve liked him since he was highlighted last year, and seeing that he hits the length check mark puts him back on the radar.

  24. Volume12 says:

    Tony Pauline said the emphasis early on in the draft this year will be on OTs and DEs.

    Safe to say there’s gonna be some shocking picks.

  25. Sea Mode says:

    Found a clip of one of the guys on the CB list with good size and length. Makes some plays on the ball and physical plays to tackle that make me take interest. Of course, this is just a clip, but I’m interested in seeing more for sure:

    DB Reggie Robinson II, Tulsa, 6010, 202, 8 1/4 hand, 32 3/8 arm, 76 3/8 wing

    https://twitter.com/DanielHouseNFL/status/1219375847620014080

    • Volume12 says:

      Yup. I’m waiting on some tape of his. Also had 13 PBU this year.

      Sounds like your guy from Pitt, CB Dane Jackson, had himself a really good day.

  26. Rob Staton says:

    I’ve posted a new article discussing the OL vs DL drills posted on Twitter.

  27. CojackTX says:

    Devin Duvernay clocked at 21 mph. The Seahawks continually referenced Gary Jenning’s clocked speed at the Senior Bowl last year, so may be one to watch. Of course, given how Jennings turned out, may not be such an emphatic point to make this year.

  28. Jamho3 says:

    Anyone else wonder if PC and SEA staff were at all conflicted about coaching the Pro Bowl vs attending Sr Bowl week full time?