Sunday Seahawks draft notes & trade deadline rumours

October 25th, 2020 | Written by Rob Staton

Bengals might be sellers, albeit unreasonable sellers

Jason La Canfora is reporting that Cincinnati are more inclined to trade veterans this year, 12 months on from a bizarre approach to their roster rebuild.

Owner Mike Brown is notoriously stubborn and runs his franchise like a local pub. Trying to trade with him can be a nightmare.

Will anything change?

“I think they are more open to it, yeah,” one general manager said. “I’m just not sure how realistic they’re going to be about the value of these players. We’ll see. I know they’re getting calls and there a bunch of players who want out of there ASAP.”

Therein lies the problem. It’s OK being willing to trade. If he’s going to ask for a second round pick for Carlos Dunlap and A.J. Green, the end result will be the same.

“Who knows, man?” another executive said. “Every time we talk to them it feels like a waste of time because they can’t pull the trigger.”

Dunlap in particular is trying to orchestrate a trade. The Bengals should grant him his wish, move on and try to reshape their roster over the next two years. He’d be a good option for the Seahawks for a late round flier — someone with a history of getting sacks and can play early downs in a four-man front.

I’m just not convinced Cincinnati will be reasonable with their asking price.

However, Ian Rapoport says he could be inactive today ahead of a potential move — so this is one to monitor.

The Texans are gearing up for a busy deadline

La Canfora also notes the Texans are gauging the market for Whitney Mercilus and a number of other players, including receivers Will Fuller and Brandin Cooks.

Houston needs two things — more draft picks and cap space. They’re currently without a first or second round pick in 2021 and they’re already $16m over the cap for next season.

However good Deshaun Watson is, that’s not an appealing situation for any prospective GM or Head Coaching candidate.

Having blown the cheap years when Watson was on his rookie deal, they’ll now have to operate with one of the most expensive players in the NFL on their books (not to mention Laremy Tunsil’s record-setting contract too).

While the likelihood of a blockbuster trade is minimal, there seems to be sufficient interest in enough players to facilitate a transaction or two by the deadline.

They’re not going to get a mega-offer in the top two rounds but they can pad out their depth for day three and save salary by making smart moves now.

Mercilus is the most interesting one for Seattle. He’s 30, quick off the edge and could do a job. Yet the market for a somewhat expensive, ageing pass rusher has to be something like a sixth rounder. It’s a salary dump.

I’m not sure the Texans will be willing to make that move. After all — their cap problems for 2021 are not as severe as the Falcons, Eagles or Saints. They also don’t have any reason to ‘tank’ the season. If anything, continuing to lose from a 1-5 position will be infuriating. Imagine if they end up gifting Miami a top-five pick that they use on Penei Sewell for a fraction of the cost of Tunsil? Ouch.

They almost have to find a way to win games to save face.

Minnesota Vikings open to further trades

Reportedly it’s possible Adam Thielen could be dealt. I’m tempted to say if the Seahawks were willing to risk their reputation on failing to sign Antonio Brown, they should be keeping an eye on the receiver market in general.

Thielen is 30 but Brown is 32. He’s a pillar of consistency — one of the savviest receivers in the game. He already has seven touchdowns this season and he has 22 in the last two a bit years.

Do I think he’ll be moved? No. If anything, he’s someone the Vikings should be desperate to keep hold of. It’d probably take a deal even greater than the Yannick Ngakoue trade to make it happen.

It’s also been confirmed that both the Seahawks and Tampa Bay were only willing to offer the veteran minimum to Brown — so they weren’t breaking the bank there.

Forget the cost though. Seattle was willing to take a major, substantial risk on Brown the person — both in terms of potential disruption and reputational damage.

If they really want to add another dynamic weapon to both support and appease the one player dragging this franchise along — they should be seeing what it’d take to get Thielen, Odell Beckham Jr, Will Fuller or any other talented, dynamic receiver.

Forget about Quinnen Williams and Ryan Kerrigan

According to Ian Rapoport:

Though more than a few teams have called inquiring about DT Quinnen Williams, source said it will take much more than the rumored second-round pick for Gang Green to part with him. GM Joe Douglas will consider anything, but for a player as highly regarded as Williams, it’s more of a question of, “How many second rounders?”

I can’t imagine anyone stumping up multiple second rounders.

Rapoport also says Ryan Kerrigan is unlikely to be dealt:

“Though other executives appear curious if Ryan Kerrigan is available, that doesn’t seem likely. Instead, it’s former second-rounder Ryan Anderson who has drawn calls and appears to be available for an edge-needy team.”

Anderson has short arms, ran a 4.78 forty and a 7.73 three-cone so he’s unlikely to be on Seattle’s radar.

Ohio State center stands out

With the Big-10 starting, a lot of focus was understandably on quarterback Justin Fields. However, it was the player snapping him the ball that drew my attention against Nebraska.

Josh Myers is 6-5 and 312lbs and a former four-star recruit. He has an ideal combo of physical power to move players off the line of scrimmage and the athleticism and agility to reach to the second level and handle blocks on the move.

At SPARQ he ran an impressive 5.11 forty and an even more impressive 4.49 short shuttle. Those are terrific numbers for an interior lineman at his size. He had the highest SPARQ score (109.35) among all offensive linemen in 2017.

For me there’s absolute no doubt he has the potential to be a first round selection. He’s everything that teams look for in a high O-line pick — physical, athletic, consistent and with high upside.

Keep him on your radar for the rest of the year. He’s only a junior so might not declare for 2021 but he has the potential to go early in the draft.

Seth Williams deserves more attention

He was on our watch-list for the season but Williams kind of gets lost in the wash. There’s not a lot that’s right at Auburn but their top receiver continues to make an impression.

Williams basically won them the game against Ole Miss with eight catches for 150 yards, a touchdown and a two-point conversion. He was unstoppable on slants, creating early separation and always offering an easy-out to Bo Nix. He showed great hands and he extends his arms to high-point and catch the ball.

On one slant he darted upfield and hurdled a defender for YAC. On another occasion Nix basically threw a Hail Mary with 3:26 left in the third quarter. Williams boxed-out his man and caught it in double coverage on the goal line. He showed incredible concentration, positioning and finish.

He made an incredible play to win the game with 1:16 left. Trailing by a point he caught a difficult sideline throw. It was aimed at the back shoulder but the defender had reasonable position and Williams had to contort his body and stretch out to catch it. He then avoided a slipping defender and sprinted from half-way for a 58-yard touchdown (before adding the two-point conversion).

Testing will be important for Williams but he just has a natural ability and he looks the part of a NFL receiver.

Other standout players

It feels like we’ve been talking about Wisconsin tight end Jake Ferguson for years. He could finally be delivering on his massive potential. Against Illinois he rebounded from a costly fumble to record seven catches, 72 yards and three touchdowns. He has ideal size, 4.6 speed, he jumped a 35-inch vertical at SPARQ and ran a fantastic 4.15 short shuttle. He has the profile, now he just needs the production. He could easily be a day two pick if he builds on this start.

It was only against Texas State but BYU quarterback Zach Wilson was superb again with four more touchdowns and 287 yards. He continues to be one of the most impressive players in college football and his stock should be rising quickly.

Michigan’s Kwity Paye has outstanding physical potential and he flashed that with two sacks against Minnesota. On one sack he lined up inside despite not being a natural fit there, then swam by the left guard and exploded into the backfield. He had a hand in another by using pure power to drive the left tackle into the backfield, disengage and then compete to the QB. He was on our watch-list for the year and he has a great shot to get into the first round discussion.

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588 Responses to “Sunday Seahawks draft notes & trade deadline rumours”

  1. Uncle Bob says:

    Glad you got past your pique re. the Brown postings and got this published, good assessment of the moment and future prospects. There’s been a bit of speculation about trade activity being more active early this week accounting for the Covid time influences. That’s a two edged sword though as the sellers understand it too and will likely reach a bit on value early in the week. It may be that the more realistic deals will still occur closer to the deadline with teams accepting that they’ll have one less game of use of the player.

    While I don’t have much confidence that PC/JS are going to do much if anything D line wise, I can’t help but wonder if they should end up getting their butts handed to them tonight might that provide added motivation. We’ll see.

  2. cha says:

    This is part of the issue when you wait until the last minute to address your self-stated priority. The options are few and possibly expensive.

    • Scot04 says:

      Exactly Cha,
      That’s why we spent two 1sts and a 3rd on a Safety. But i do hope the do something to address the Pass Rush

  3. Lee says:

    My AB and Ngakoue/Kerrigan dreams smashed….

    I wonder why the Seahawks didn’t go all in, and deal the late 2nd rounder for Ngakoue? Wouldn’t he have made the difference< kind of like Frank Clark with the Chiefs last season?

  4. hawkfanforetenity says:

    If they are thinking about upgrades on offense, and if they considered Brown they obviously are, I wonder if they’d look at Brandon Scherff from Washington. Iupati at LG has had to be managed all season long, and is out again tonight. Upgrading and stabilizing LG would probably have a more significant effect on our offense than upgrading our WR core. We still have to face Donald twice this year, Scherff would hold up better than Simmons would, certainly.

    That being said, Scherff is playing on the franchise tag this year, and would want to be paid as the top guard after the season. Washington may also have no interest in moving him, I haven’t seen him demanding to be traded like Dunlap has.

    • cha says:

      I doubt they would. The Hawks have lots of options at LG.

      After Iupati, they’ve got Simmons. Then they’ve got Finney (if they feel comfortable elevating Fuller to #2 C) and they might get Haynes back before too long.

    • Rob Staton says:

      I think another WR would be a significant upgrade vs a new left guard to be honest. Especially with the need to score points.

      • GerryG says:

        Agreed. Not sure how easy it would be to slide a new LG mid season into what is a decent unit too.

      • Chris Alexander says:

        Agreed. Seattle currently leads the league in scoring but 4 of their 5 wins have been by 1-score. If the defense doesn’t start getting off the field sooner / more frequently then adding additional weapons on offense is certainly a decent “Plan B” (with Plan A presumably being to add defensive players).

  5. Chris says:

    Rob,
    I’m fairly new to your blog but I was wondering how you choose which college players to write about? Do you pick players/positions that would fill a “need” for the Seahawks? Or just exciting players you feel like talking about?

  6. Gaux Hawks says:

    i know we’re 5-0 but i was relieved this morning when i saw the cards, rams and niners schedules to finish the season… there are going to be some tough losses across the board.

    • Chris Alexander says:

      Yeah, depending on which site you look at, their “remaining Strength of Schedule” varies somewhat, but all 3 of our NFC West brethren are in the Top 5 for toughest remaining schedule. Seattle, meanwhile, is in the bottom 5 or 10.

  7. GerryG says:

    I’m pretty bummed that NFL has seemingly moved on, or forgotten about Josh Gordon. I was never really counting on him, but man his ability to move the chains on those slant plays he made last year (admittedly on very limited target) seems to be something this team could use. As good as the offense is, they are not good on third down.

    Dunlap would be a great get, but man, you’re pretty screwed when you’re needing a reasonable deal from the Bengals to salvage the DL issues (facepalm AF).

    • Chris Alexander says:

      I’m wondering if it’s a case of Josh having “slipped” or not done enough to get a “Yes” and maybe the league just doesn’t want / “need” to say “No.”

      • Rob Staton says:

        We also don’t know what the NFL knows.

        I suspect there’s more to this than people think.

        • BruceN says:

          Even if he had a relapse, didn’t follow the process and did drugs again (likely pot), that would not be in the same level of what AB has done with multiple accusations of sexual assaults, harassments and lawsuits. One has done harm to himself, the other has allegedly committed multiple felonies and crimes against others. This just doesn’t smell right.

        • GerryG says:

          Probably right, but if that’s the case, fine, just let it be known. I find it annoying the NFL thinks of itself as some top secret clandestine organization.

          • Chris Alexander says:

            I don’t think they’re being secretive; I think they’re simply “protecting Josh’s privacy” (assuming, of course, that there’s a “reason” they haven’t ruled on his reinstatement application and aren’t just “sitting” on it).

    • Tecmo Bowl says:

      Mike Garafolo speculated this morning that Gordon could be back week 10. That would complete a full season suspension, if thats what Goodell wants. It would be cool if Goodell added some or any clarity regarding Gordon. Keeping JG in a holding pattern is a disservice to the hawks and player.

      Haha yeah expecting Mike Brown to be a reasonable trade partner is a losing battle. Dunlap would be a nice get though.

    • Uncle Bob says:

      No disagreement on Gordon re; moving the chains and reliable hands. But shouldn’t that be why they took on Olsen? He’s made a career of that sort of thing in addition to the blocking help. Why we haven’t seen more of that is a wonderment to me. Perhaps, if tonight’s game plan, in part, is to keep Murray off the field as much as possible (and “hide” the defense) then we’ll see more of him…………and Carson.

    • Rushless pass says:

      I think if he is reinstated it will be week 10 or 11. That makes it a one year suspension

  8. Chris Alexander says:

    I’m in the camp that would have liked for Seattle to add AB, but the $2.5M (max) he’s getting from the Bucs would definitely have made adding help on the D-line harder than it already is.

    Given the current / reported “status” of available players, my vote(s) would be for Dunlap and/or Tak McKinley.

    • Rob Staton says:

      Well the price of AB won’t matter if they don’t add anyone before the deadline.

      • Jordan E says:

        Hopefully they arent done with their roster and do make a trade

      • Chris Alexander says:

        Very, VERY true. At the moment, I’m a little less annoyed about the Hawks opening courting him and then NOT signing him based on what he got from Tampa Bay. But, yeah, if the didn’t sign him and then also DON’T ADD ANYONE ON DEFENSE . . .

        It will be super frustrating if that’s what happens. But also sorta “par for the course” given how the entire offseason played out.

  9. Hoggs41 says:

    Who are people rooting for in a trade?

    Kerrigan
    Dunlap
    Fackrell
    McKinley
    Someone Else

  10. Sea Mode says:

    Along with what Tecmo Bowl posted above about Gordon possibly coming back week 10, Garafolo also confirmed that it was RW driving the Seahawks’ interest in Brown, and adds that the team itself may not have been so on board… hmmm…

    https://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo/status/1320381642490466315

  11. Sea Mode says:

    Looks like Dunlap will be active:

    Mike Garafolo
    @MikeGarafolo
    ·1h

    If #Bengals DE Carlos Dunlap was trying to pull a Costanza by posting the team’s DL rotations yesterday, it didn’t work. At least not today, anyway. He’ll be active vs. the #Browns.

  12. Jordan E says:

    Great write up here Rob. I really hope the Hawks make a move at DLine or WR. I dont if they could afford it but OBJ has a reasonable contract and wants to get out of Cleveland. Brandin Cooks too but his contract is a bit much for his talent. Thielen would be outright nasty if we got him. Great character guy there too.

    Again, our locker room is strong and we should maximize Russ’s ability. We need to support him just as the Chiefs support Mahomes. Mahomes has like 4-5 pro-bowl/all-pro talents to support him. We have 2-3.

    I think the DLine market might be too overpriced. Dunlap though would be a great fit. Im not too sure of Mercilus. Havent watched enough tape.

    Hopefully Hawks do make some move though. I really hope they have more moves in mind besides practice squad signings.

  13. Rob Staton says:

    So per Jay Glazer:

    — Russell Wilson had been campaigning to sign Antonio Brown for months
    — The Seahawks ‘thought’ they had a shot to get him but they did not

    Good grief.

    https://twitter.com/PFN365/status/1320404763322798082

    • AlaskaHawk says:

      Yahoo sports had a long writeup about how AB torched most of his previous connections. The only person he didn’t torch was Tom Brady (and apparently Russell Wilson). He felt that Tom was sympathetic to his issues. In any case, it payed off for AB when he got signed up with Tampa Bay.

    • lil’stink says:

      I guess I don’t see the huge deal here. We were linked to a controversial player and failed to get him. In terms of it being a bad look for the Seahawks no one is going to care in a week.

      Just look at that Bruce Arians quote in the tweet from Warren Sharp. When you have a star QB that is either undermining or overriding the front office it isn’t a good look. PCJS should have been more careful about confirming their interest in AB. Wilson should have been smarter about who he publicly pushes the team to sign.

    • swedenhawk says:

      Rob, how do you think this will effect Wilson’s credibility with his teammates? He’s embarrassed himself badly here. Brown disrespecting him so publicly might cause some damage, imo.

      • Rob Staton says:

        I don’t think it’ll have any negative impact with his team mates.

        I think it might cause a little bit of an issue between the team and QB.

      • Lewis says:

        How did Brown disrespect him? If this is about his tweet from January about wanting to play with Brady, that would have been before they worked out together in the preseason. Wilson has plenty to be embarrassed about, but not that.

        • swedenhawk says:

          Wilson put his reputation on the line by publicly supporting Brown and actively recruiting him. For Brown to then sign with the Buccaneers to play with Brady is a slap in Wilson’s face.

          • Lewis says:

            I disagree. It’s a business. Brown made the decision to sign with a QB he had some familiarity with. That’s not a slap in the face. Perhaps Wilson should have made sure what Brown’s intentions were before he stick his neck out for a guy like that. Suggests to me they aren’t all that close, which makes it all the more bizarre Wilson did.

            • swedenhawk says:

              Fair enough. In any case, Wilson showed extremely poor judgment and needs to be held to account. Let’s just hope it doesn’t result in any on-field issues.

  14. CaptainJack says:

    I have a sinking feeling that PCJS will just roll with what they’ve got at this point. Gut feeling.

    • Simo says:

      I tend to agree, unless a sweetheart deal falls into their laps. They are shopping in the bargain bin I’m afraid, and have no intention of trading the R2 pick. So, if they can get a Dunlap or McKinley for a R5 pick or so they might pull the trigger. Any more expensive than that, they will move on IMO.

    • Big Mike says:

      Agree 100%, sadly.

    • AlaskaHawk says:

      My general feeling is that they already blew their budget with 60 million in free agents and two first round draft picks dealt. Now they are working on the next two years budget.

  15. David Ashton says:

    Could Dunlap be a player that takes us over the edge? Admittedly, the Bengals havent been a team I watch much.

    • CaptainJack says:

      Generally I think Dunlap would be a good acquisition, but you’d have to limit his snaps to keep him fresh. And he’s likely a rental. He could marginally improve the pass rush but I doubt he takes the defense from terrible to even ok.

    • Lewis says:

      If taking the defense from bottom third to middle of the pack qualifies as taking us over the edge, then yes.

    • GerryG says:

      Even K Mack would only make this defense ok. There’s just not enough thump on the DL.

      • Scot04 says:

        This is why you don’t spend two 1sts and a 3rd on a safety. He can’t fix a poor pass rush no matter how good he is.

    • JC3 says:

      Look, they won’t even pay 6 mils to a pro-bowl DE during the off-season, what make you think they are willing to ditch out another 10 mils plus draft picks for Dunlap?

  16. Pran says:

    Hawks are trying to save whatever picks they have left from 2021. May be a late rounder or player swap..I guess that’s it unless they start chipping in to 2022 draft picks.

    They were banking on veteran cuts on the cut down day which didn’t happen..now they are hoping for mid season cuts?

  17. Trevor says:

    So we pass on MOntez Sweat who was not hurt in college then dominated the Senior Bowl and Combine but had a misdiagnosed heart condition to draft Lj Collier.

    Then we trade up to draft Darrel Taylor a guy who was hurt his entire college career and could not compete at Senior Bowl or combine.

    That makes a ton of sense. Sweat is exactly the type of speed rusher this team badly needs.

    Have to wonder about our medical staff considering every rookie class seems to struggle with injuries.

    • cha says:

      Philip Dorsett was a big miss as well.

    • Tecmo Bowl says:

      Felt all along that the Hawks should have stuck at #21 and selected the best DE available, which was clearly Sweat. He fit all their physical ideals with good production. Then trade down with pick #27 to fill in the middle round picks. JS saw something else. No idea what it was. Collier has been looking decent this year, but he’ll never have upside any where close to Sweat.

      There was also a big cliff of DE (Winovich, Crosby, Nelson)that dried up by the middle of round 4 in that draft. JS traded up to draft Barton. Just brutal.

      Trading up for DK has saved that class from a very poor grade.

  18. Gohawks5151 says:

    Man, I wonder the price on Will Fuller. He is hurt quite a bit but whoa man would he be filthy with Lock and DK.

    Dunlap really is trying to get out. I always heard about the way Brown runs the team and that if a vet really wanted out he and his “family business” style would work to accommodate them. This is a chance to see if that’s true. The price though…

    Seth Williams is underrated. He has real skill and carried the load on an OK team. He kind of reminds me of Bryan Edwards last year. Maybe he goes in the same range?

  19. Trevor says:

    I think Russ and Kyler are going to put on a show tonight.

    41-38 Hawks as Russ throws for 4 TDS. Murray becomes the first QB to run for 100 + yds / Pass for 300 + yds in a loss.

  20. Big Mike says:

    Cowpukes tanking for Lawrence?

    Win never to get Trevor.

    • Jordan E says:

      Cowboys could easily bounce back next year and be really good if they got Trevor. That low QB cap hit… plus cedee looking real good. Just need to build that defense with the remaining money

      • Blaine says:

        I feel like I hear this every year..

        • Rob Staton says:

          Dallas are a mile away.

          The famous O-line is no more. The defense is a mess. They have a bloated roster full of players on massive contracts.

          They need to reset but probably won’t. And they need to recognise Mike McCarthy is their Jim Mora.

  21. Trevor says:

    Every time I was Montez win with a speed rush around the edge them think about LJ Collier I want to throw up.

  22. Trevor says:

    Rob one of the guys you liked a couple of years ago Tim Settle has looked really good today.

  23. Sea Mode says:

    Nasty shot on Andy Dalton. Disgraceful.

  24. Gohawks5151 says:

    Strap for in for the end of Pit-Ten. I need the fantasy points Tanne!

  25. charlietheunicorn says:

    Welp…. good job Titans

  26. charlietheunicorn says:

    Bengals game has been entertaining

  27. Rob Staton says:

    Clyde

    Edwards

    Helaire

    • Jordan E says:

      Chiefs actually support their QB.. Russ has to beg for it. Again, so mad with this failure to get AB!! Why did we also not draft a WR in this years amazing WR class!?? All we got Russ was superstar Greg Olsen.

      • Lewis says:

        I’d have loved to have drafted a guy like Claypool (after addressing the DE position in free agency), but acting like Wilson lacks weapons is not a rational take.

        • Rob Staton says:

          I’ll tell you what though — I guarantee Wilson is looking at the Chiefs adding Bell and the Buccs adding Brown and thinking ‘hmmmm’.

        • Jordan E says:

          Not saying he doesn’t have any weapons but they could support him even more. We still need that 3rd option who is dangerous YAC and a possession type of guy. I just think Russ can be even better than what hes been already. He is better than Mahomes in my opinion but doesnt receive the same amount of support.

          • Rob Staton says:

            Mahomes has Hill, Kelce, Watkins, Hardman, CEH and Bell — all expensive or high picks.

            Wilson has Metcalf, Lockett, Carson and then a collection of reasonable TE’s and Penny who hasn’t really shown enough to warrant a R1.

            Meanwhile Brady has an obscene arsenal of weapons.

            It’s not that Wilson doesn’t have any support — it’s just that the guys he will compare his situation to have more. And that will piss him off.

            • Lewis says:

              Fair, but they have tried at least (Penny) and if Dissly hadn’t had two huge injuries it would look that much better, in all likelihood. Of course, they can always do more.

              • Lewis says:

                And it goes back to the Dline too. If they had gotten that done in the off season, maybe they pick up a Claypool or a CEH

                • Rob Staton says:

                  But they messed up the D-line and couldn’t.

                  Which will piss him off too (probably).

                  Wilson was liking tweets (including one of my own) about skill position players pre-draft.

              • Rob Staton says:

                Ultimately though whether they tried or not won’t matter to Wilson. He wants them to hit on players, not try and hit.

                He wants to win.

                Mahomes won last year and TB are doing everything Brady wants to try and win this year.

                Wilson could easily be looking at this situation and wondering why the hell Seattle hasn’t done more to support him — especially with the defense but also with an extra weapon.

            • Jordan E says:

              ^ THIS!! Especially after that loss.

  28. Sea Mode says:

    Haha, this is getting beyond ridiculous. Just trade him already..

    Carlos Dunlap
    @Carlos_Dunlap
    · 16m

    ~6000 sqft city view with huge balcony. 4 bedroom. 4.5 bathroom. In one of the best school districts for sale. Do your market analysis and make me offer. Serious inquiries only with proof of funds!

    Owner is willing to sell furnished or unfurnished!

  29. UP Hawk says:

    Watching the hot garbage of Dallas makes me wonder if they would turn and trade Everson Griffin. Their team is going nowhere and could use some money for a Prescott extension even though the contract won’t be as large as originally thought.

  30. Rob Staton says:

    Patriots playing like an absolute joke.

    Bye week for the Niners.

    • AlaskaHawk says:

      Yes – the Patriots defense is making the Niners offense look good! I hoped for more of a game.

      • Rob Staton says:

        The Niners offense is good. Challenges you in so many ways. They lose a whole bunch of players and Shanahan just schemes up ways to make it a total non-factor. They are superb.

        Next week they better have an answer for all this outside stuff in the running game. They better have an answer for Kittle. And they better score points.

        • AlaskaHawk says:

          I’m hoping the Seahawks have improved over the bye. They should at least be rested. Should be an interesting comparison between the niners, cardinals and seahawks today.

          I agree that the niners offense looks surprisingly strong. And that’s without some of their best players who were injured. Maybe they have better depth than most teams. Of course the Steelers looked strong early in their game and then faded.

  31. Rob Staton says:

    On Dunlap — Cincy fans are ready to get rid for anything.

    I’m starting to wonder if he’ll just be cut.

  32. Tony says:

    Watching pats, im thinking the real cam has finally showed up. We saw peak cam week 2, but he hasnt looked good at all since. No touch at all. Not to excuse our terrible defense but this pats team last 2 weeks looks like a bottom 10 team.

    On another note, its amazing that edelman has disappeared completely.

    • Lewis says:

      Cam is a tremendous athlete, but he’s overrated as a qb.

    • charlietheunicorn says:

      To be fair, the team has lost multiple practices due to CVOID issues. They have been challenged unlike almost any other team (except Titans) … and to top it off they had large scale roster changes (QB/TE) in the offseason. More or less, it is catching up to them now.

  33. Big Mike says:

    I know the whole let Russ cook thing has been pretty great so far but we saw how well Minnesota controlled the game vs. Seattle when the Hawks tried that approach. I believe in order to beat SF next week, the Hawks need to run the ball a LOT and try to control the clock themselves. Doubt that’s what we’ll see, but the less the 9er offense is on the field the better.

  34. Rob Staton says:

    Terry McLaurin — always liked him. Always rated him.

    Watch this:

    https://twitter.com/granthpaulsen/status/1320477783995416576

    Bet Ron Rivera will be smiling about that for the rest of the day.

  35. cha says:

    Inactive

    Iupati
    Adams
    Rush
    Fuller
    Willson
    Hart

  36. Rob Staton says:

    Now that Antonio Brown is a no-go I would see what the price is for Will Fuller.

  37. charlietheunicorn says:

    I putting a big circle around the Cowboys as trade targets…..

    You remember that guy, Everson Griffen… go get him for a 6th.

    • Scot04 says:

      It would have to be a 2022 6th round pick. No 6th in 21′

      • charlietheunicorn says:

        Hum, Aldon Smith and/or Everson Griffen both would look good in Seattle about now…….

        …. I see some comments above about both these guys…. I love you guys…. you are thinking what I’m thinking…. How about them Cowboys!

    • Simo says:

      So how has Griffen been playing this year? Haven’t heard much about him since Dallas’ defense is awful!

      • charlietheunicorn says:

        Around 20 tackles / 1 sack….. but as part of rotation, I’ll take it.

        • charlietheunicorn says:

          They are using him at OLB, which is not really a strong position for him, he should be a 4-3 DE

          • TomLPDX says:

            You’re kidding! He’s not a LB.

            • charlietheunicorn says:

              There is a reason why DC Mike Nolan might be shown the door very shortly….

              • TomLPDX says:

                And possibly Mcarthy as well

              • Rob Staton says:

                They should fire the whole staff.

                • charlietheunicorn says:

                  I was just watching the big hit on Dalton… and no one came to defend him on his team or rough up Bostic. Completely unacceptable in a team sport. You might be right, time to fire some fools in the coaching staff.

                • Tallyhawk says:

                  Until they fire the GM they will continue to be a dumpster fire

                  • Rob Staton says:

                    Maybe but for all the crap Jerry gets — look at their drafts.

                    The ‘GM’ and his son have found a franchise QB in round four and UDFA, they’ve built a fantastic OL, hit on numerous early round picks.

                    They’ve had that team in a lot of 8-8 situations but they’ve also had 13-3 seasons.

                    They were too loyal to the last coach and picked the wrong replacement — but the Jones’ get undeserved stick overall IMO. They’ve done things that other teams can only dream of. Grabbing Romo then going to Prescott for the grand total price of a R4 is incredible.

    • pdway says:

      Griffen is a smart target. Cowboys obviously going nowhere, Griffen likely really values a chance to go to a playoff team at this point im his career, and there’s still the Pete/USC connection.

      lets make it happen.

      • charlietheunicorn says:

        There was a ton of speculation prior to the season he was interested in coming to Seattle…. not a huge stretch they also wanted him, but were holding out hope for another player.

    • Volume12 says:

      How bout them Cowboys? *need a Stephen gif, meme, whatever*

  38. Rob Staton says:

    Bruce Arians handled the Antonio Brown questions emphatically…

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0O78SsBgPZc

  39. charlietheunicorn says:

    Ohhhh

    Wolf Grays tonight…. 😀

  40. CaptainJack says:

    Man I should have started Justin Herbert today over Josh Allen.

    Herbert is looking good, can the chargers challenge the chiefs next year?

  41. AlaskaHawk says:

    That’s the quick start the Seahawks need. Team is full of energy after a bye week.

  42. CaptainJack says:

    Perfect drive. Russ looks to be in the “zone” so far.

  43. Trevor says:

    Theirs your scoreboard pressure Rob!

    This offense is so good right now.

  44. Tony says:

    That was an ideal opening drive.

  45. Rob Staton says:

    *D-line PFF rankings*

    75 of 118
    73 of 118
    51 of 118
    80 of 110

    Blergh.

  46. Tony says:

    After that open drop, good stand by hawks. Lol

  47. Rob Staton says:

    Fantastic from Quinton Dunbar

  48. Gohawks5151 says:

    Gotta tap that toe old man!

  49. Rob Staton says:

    Shame that. Really liked that design on the Olsen throw. And we need him and the TE’s to step up. Unfortunate he just couldn’t get that leg down in bounds.

  50. Trevor says:

    This offense is unstoppable when teams can’t get pressure on Russ. Chandler Jones being out is a huge bonus for the Hawks.

  51. Rob Staton says:

    Wilson had good pass-pro there. Would like to see the coverage.

  52. Rob Staton says:

    Tackle him please Bobby.

    What a missed opportunity.

  53. Tony says:

    You had him! Wrap up!

  54. Denver Hawker says:

    Love seeing Mone dive from behind to make that tackle.

  55. Rob Staton says:

    This defense AGAIN.

    My god it’s dreadful.

    Wagner whiffs on the sack to get off the field. Then Dunbar never gets his head around and has no idea where the ball is on the TD. Another big, huge stonking play against Seattle’s cornerbacks.

    Just awful.

  56. CaptainJack says:

    Kyler Murray is insanely fast. Like 4.3 fast. Hard to defend that.

  57. Trevor says:

    The Hawks Over has been a lock all year. Like the easiest bet on the board at Vegas. I thought 55 was low for this game

  58. Rob Staton says:

    Why is Chris not getting these carries?

  59. Bmseattle says:

    We gotta start involving Metcalf soon, right?

  60. Trevor says:

    FGs won’t cut it with our Defense.

  61. Rob Staton says:

    GET IN

    No idea what Nuk was doing there but thank you VERY much.

    Great play by Poona too.

    • Trevor says:

      kJ has been so good this year. Clearly we needed to draft his replacement in the first round 🙂 Brook looks pretty good today though at least.

  62. AlaskaHawk says:

    Poona Ford and KJ teaming up. Great spot to recover a fumble.

  63. Noah Parker says:

    OL is looking really good

  64. Rob Staton says:

    What the HELL was that?

    Why aren’t they running Chris?

  65. Henry Taylor says:

    Horrible play, but insane hustle by DK

  66. icb12 says:

    Dear Pete,

    Run. The. Ball.

    Thanks.
    The 12s.

  67. Bmseattle says:

    Great read and play by Brooks

  68. Gohawks5151 says:

    Jordyn Brooks!

  69. CaptainJack says:

    That DK rundown plus the fourth down stop? This team has grit.

  70. Volume12 says:

    That’s why you never, ever give up on a play. DK saved us a TD. And what a special play from Jordyn Brooks.

  71. Rob Staton says:

    Carson’s got to be hurt, right?

  72. Shadrey says:

    Don’t laugh at me too hard, but I’m surprisingly impressed with this defensive performance so far. This the best half of defense for the season by far right?

    Not to give the front office a pass for this clear liability, but wanted to give the players credit for performing!

    • Rob Staton says:

      We have to credit them for the stop and the turnover.

      It’s just a shame they can’t cut out the huge, glaring errors.

    • MatiG says:

      I’m able to cheer for them. They play hard, and occasionally make good plays. In some sense it feels like it’s not entirely their fault that they aren’t good enough.

  73. CaptainJack says:

    Ughhhhhh

    Lewis down. Finney time?

  74. Bmseattle says:

    Oh no!!
    Lewis.
    Please be cramps

  75. Henry Taylor says:

    This stadium gives me anxiety, win or lose horrible shit happens here.

  76. Denver Hawker says:

    Looks like Lewis took a helmet to the knee running full speed.

  77. Tony says:

    That dk play is why petes teams are always good. That is the intangible and positivity stuff that keeps showing up every year

  78. Rob Staton says:

    Russell looks jittery for no reason.

  79. Rob Staton says:

    Jesus, it’s a good job Al Micheals hasn’t been allowed to referee tonight from the booth.

    Clearly in.

  80. Volume12 says:

    That block from DK on the TD run was monstrous. Wished more stuff like that was graded & put in the box score

  81. Rowdy says:

    Why is hyde getting carries lol nice run

  82. Tony says:

    Neal looks like a legit player so far. He keeps showing up each week.

  83. Rob Staton says:

    Dear defense,

    If you’re going to give up a score here, do it quickly so the offense has a chance to respond.

    Arizona gets the ball to start the second half.

  84. Bmseattle says:

    Blitzing the corner on Hopkins side doesn’t seem wise

  85. Rob Staton says:

    My god this defense is totally, utterly, horribly USELESS.

  86. Tony says:

    Your 2020 seahawk defense. Ugh

  87. Gohawks5151 says:

    Do not resign Shaq for anything less than average. Maybe not at all

  88. Robbie says:

    What is the heck is Griffen doing

  89. Trevor says:

    Pete must want to throw up after every win watching this defense. This group is unrecognizable as a Pete Carrol defense,

  90. Bmseattle says:

    Someone is going to give Griffin way too much money.

  91. Rob Staton says:

    Nothing is going to fix this defense is it?

    They aren’t fixing this with a 31-year-old malcontent DE.

    They just blew it in March.

    • Bmseattle says:

      Nope.
      Unfortunately, Wagner is in decline and our corners can’t cover as well as we thought they could.

  92. Rob Staton says:

    Wow.

    What a throw.

    And what a truly incredible catch.

  93. AlaskaHawk says:

    Lockett’s doing great today!!!! Loving Russell’s rushing also. Lots of good plays going on.

  94. Rowdy says:

    Lockett is killing peterson

  95. Rob Staton says:

    Chris Carson hurt then, as we thought.

    Man he is so talented, so good — yet always a game away from another injury.

    I’m just not sure they can live without him and let him walk. He’s too good.

  96. Hawks_Gui says:

    Carson is hurt

  97. Robbie says:

    That was sexy!

  98. Bmseattle says:

    43 seconds left.
    Predictions?

  99. Trevor says:

    Our offense is so good right now. Luckily they are a little bette than our defense is awful.

  100. Volume12 says:

    75 yds in 3 plays! Insane.

    Peterson is like, ‘What do I even do? Cant play this any better?’

  101. Rob Staton says:

    127 rushing yards

    250 passing yards

    27 points

    In a half.

    • Volume12 says:

      It’s crazy how fast the game has got this fast hasn’t it Rob? I’m honestly just…IDK what to think.

      • Rob Staton says:

        The game has definitely changed.

        It always adapts and moves and there are trends. Happens in most sports. We’re seeing a big one in the NFL right now.

        • Volume12 says:

          True. From that, to the type of athletes were seeing (NBA was my 1st love), it’s amazing, just w/ this particular game here, I’m not sure I was ever gonna see it get like this. Or ready to. Not 100% anyways.

  102. Trevor says:

    377 yds of offense in a half is pretty good right? If teams can’t pressure Russ they have no shot against this group.

  103. MyChestisBeastMode says:

    Lockett > AB in football and in life.

  104. Scot04 says:

    It will be an absolute shame if they don’t make an effort to fix this Pass Rush before the trade deadline. It might not be possible, but they sure need to aquire someone, because it’s definitely ugly.

  105. Rob Staton says:

    Are they going to give up another long TD here FFS?

  106. Tony says:

    At this point, i think letting russ cook was more about distracting fans from the failed defense. PC was like, russ throw another deep one.

  107. cha says:

    Shaquem is utterly useless as a pass rusher.

  108. Pran says:

    This defense is so horrible all it needs is 30sec to lose the game.

  109. Rob Staton says:

    “Seahawks’ RB Chris Carson is questionable to return with a foot injury”

  110. Max says:

    I really don’t want to see Shaquem play any more defensive snaps.Nice story.fine special teams player.but he shouldn’t be on the field.i know Moore and Robinson are like D- players,but Shaquem is like F-.just awful.great story though.but I’m over it

    • CaptainJack says:

      He’s so bad. Losing Irvin was really a terrible loss that we didn’t think about as much as we should have.

  111. Shadrey says:

    Watching this game makes it even clearer how the seahawk NEED to go all in tbis season. These receivers are special, this offense is special, and the defense might be fixable!

    Rob, is there that much added value by keeping this year’s 2nd and 4th/5th instead of rolling the dice on some d line help?

    • Rob Staton says:

      For the right player I would trade that R2.

      However, they have to replace some guys on the cheap next year and they can’t just write-off 2021.

      So if they deal that R2 it better be someone really good with club control for at least 2021 if not 2022.

      I’m struggling to think of someone who fits the bill.

  112. Tony says:

    1 pass rusher wont make this defense great or good. We all know that here. But I’ll take whelming or meh defense over this pukefest. So trade that 2nd rdr or any late pick for anything resembling decent. Decent pass rusher will still be a ridiculous upgrade.

    • Volume12 says:

      I’m gonna disagree. It almost hurts to see how bad this team is screaming out for a pass rusher on 3rd & long.

      • Tony says:

        I think we agree then that we need a pass rusher. Unless youre saying 1 pass rusher makes this d great?

        • Lewis says:

          Don’t need to make them great, just average. They do some things well, but are wildly inconsistent. Some consistent qb pressure, so they don’t have all day to throw, could help prevent some of the huge plays downfield and create even more turnovers.

        • Volume12 says:

          Not great, they just need to be good. And I think w/ 1, plus Adams coming back, they become very good.

      • James says:

        I second this. You can juice this entire defense if you give our secondary more freedom to act.

  113. Rob Staton says:

    Tyler Lockett’s face when David Moore came back celebrating there was a picture.

    That should’ve been downed at the one-yard-line. Fair catch it please, David.

    • ReconUK says:

      We got away with one there. Sometimes it is better to be lucky than good. This team needs a lot of that luck.

  114. CaptainJack says:

    Where the hell is DK? Why does he disappear for such long stretches?

  115. Rob Staton says:

    Hopkins was wide open there

  116. Rob Staton says:

    Tackle him come on

  117. Gohawks5151 says:

    Bullshit call

  118. Rob Staton says:

    That’s a TERRIBLE flag on Wagner. Joke.

  119. Pran says:

    Bobby sometimes make these dumb plays on 3rd downs…

  120. Robbie says:

    That was unbelievable

  121. Rob Staton says:

    It’s pretty clear the offense is going to have to keep scoring.

    I hope, as the announcers suggested, the Arizona defense hasn’t found something with blitzing and tight man coverage.

  122. Tony says:

    Im done with flowers experiment. Can we try anyone on the PS?

  123. Rob Staton says:

    My word this defense.

  124. Tony says:

    Preach it chris!

  125. Shadrey says:

    You know you are in rough shape when Collinsworth calls out your problems…

  126. Rob Staton says:

    Tackling is dreadful.

  127. Pran says:

    BS tackling…

  128. Rob Staton says:

    So this drive should’ve been a safety but for a missed sack, should’ve been a punt but for the terrible flag and then the defense just melted like it usually does.

    They are going to lose a game they have no business losing eventually and it’ll be 100% on the defense.

    • Tony says:

      And itll be a game like this where the offense looks unstoppable and because they cant score 40, they will lose.

  129. Bmseattle says:

    How many 90+ yard drives have we allowed this year so far?

  130. Volume12 says:

    3rd and semi-long. smh

  131. Tony says:

    AZ should thank the refs for the gift wrapped td drive with wagner call.

  132. James Cr. says:

    What happened to Diggs? He has been absolutely awful this year

    • CaptainJack says:

      The lions traded him away for a fifth round pick.

      He’s better than Tedric Thompson. But he’s not good.

  133. CaptainJack says:

    Collier is utterly worthless as a pass rusher. John Schneider lost all of his credibility when he drafted him. After passing on Montez Sweat…

  134. Gohawks5151 says:

    Let Diggs go. Blair’s job next year

  135. BobbyK says:

    1st and 20.

    No problem on this defense.

  136. Pran says:

    Ken Norton is awful… when your team is awful in tackling you know who..

  137. CaptainJack says:

    This quarter has been crap. Seahawks fell asleep

  138. James says:

    I just don’t understand the inconsistency with calling holding calls…for either side.

  139. Rob Staton says:

    It’s amazing really.

    Seahawks have done so much on offense but one scoreless quarter with this defense and suddenly it’s a three-point game.

  140. Denver Hawker says:

    The defense is bad for sure, but the refs have suddenly ruined this game.

  141. Tony says:

    So wagner gets a dumb pf call, but a legit helmet to helmet goes unnoticed on us. Thanks.

  142. CaptainJack says:

    What an awful throw. After a terrible play call.

  143. Gohawks5151 says:

    Jeeze Russ

  144. Rob Staton says:

    Russell FFS

    What is he doing?

    Why is ‘letting him cook’ leading to really, really stupid interceptions?

  145. Pran says:

    Thats 2 bad red zone picks… 6 points swing at least.. come on Russ..did you see your team defense play!

  146. Tony says:

    Russ wants to pad those 4th quarter comebacks again.

  147. Rowdy says:

    For as good as russ has been today he’s blowing this game

  148. Rob Staton says:

    Offense needed to keep scoring, clearly.

    0 points in the second half.

  149. CaptainJack says:

    FFS the Seahawks should just let Arizona score here. We don’t need a long 7 minute to drive from Kyler.

  150. Volume12 says:

    Russ! Come on. Keep taking time off the clock.

  151. Rob Staton says:

    Well, thank you Kyler Murray.

    Do not waste that GIFT.

  152. CaptainJack says:

    DIGGS

  153. AlaskaHawk says:

    Back to Back interceptions. Diggs was so open I thought he was on the Cardinals team.

  154. Rob Staton says:

    DK still can’t high-point, can he?

  155. James P Kupihea says:

    What even are we watching…

  156. Tony says:

    I miss carson

  157. Volume12 says:

    There we go. F**k

  158. AlaskaHawk says:

    When’s the last time this offense scored? First half?

  159. Pran says:

    Dumb time out..yet again.

    We need 7 here ..if you are going to cling on to 3 point lead…good luck winning this game

  160. Gohawks5151 says:

    Seriously Russ… I don’t want to hear anymore about him calling his own plays and whatever. Get some control man

  161. Tony says:

    Those graphics lol

  162. DC says:

    This has turned into a pretty ugly game to watch

  163. Matt says:

    Russell has been trending in the wrong direction for several games now. Still amazing, obviously – but his first 3 games have kind of masked what has been some very up and down play over the last 3.

  164. Tony says:

    Need a td.

  165. Rob Staton says:

    These refs are a joke.

    Call the TD and let it be overturned if needed.

  166. Rowdy says:

    Officials are being real one sized in this one

    • ReconUK says:

      With this and the Wagner call, I get the sense they are trying to keep this game close. Seattle are playing more than Arizona out there.

  167. Pran says:

    This is one of the worst officiated game this season..of all I watched.
    Bad call missed call bad calll….keeps getting worse. NFL can’t have this on prime time…

  168. Lewis says:

    A rule change I’d like to see: any play where an official signals touchdown is considered a ‘scoring play’ and is automatically reviewed, even if that call is changed.

  169. Bmseattle says:

    The official in the best postion called it a TD

  170. Volume12 says:

    😂😂 he got that. Holy s**t!

  171. Rob Staton says:

    That is unbelievably brilliant by Tyler Lockett.

  172. James P Kupihea says:

    Lockette in baby.

  173. Rob Staton says:

    Please, defense.

    Just get a stop.

  174. Pran says:

    Here come 90sec defense

  175. Rob Staton says:

    It’s all just so easy.

  176. Nate says:

    Barnwell tweeted that Isaiah Simmons has two snaps tonight. Yeesh what’s going on there?

  177. Rob Staton says:

    What are Arizona doing here?

    They need points, not to desperately get this one yard.

  178. James P Kupihea says:

    That’s a shame, I respect how Drake has stepped his game up since being given a shot with AZ

  179. Rowdy says:

    Thinking the same thing but hey let them

  180. Rob Staton says:

    You can never relax watching this defense.

  181. Rowdy says:

    Is there a limit on how many injury time outs you can have?

  182. Rob Staton says:

    Well done special teams.

  183. Tony says:

    Mayowa u dumbass

  184. AlaskaHawk says:

    Mayowa = you idiot. And I know what his tackling problem is – he tackles around the shoulders.

  185. Pran says:

    Pete…dumb dumber dumbest…

  186. Matt says:

    Is this a Make-a-Wish situation with the officials?

  187. Volume12 says:

    What is Mayowa doing!? 4th & 12 🤦‍♂️

  188. Rob Staton says:

    Of course it’s a defensive lineman making a stupid mistake, allowing the defense to give up an easy TD with a missed tackle to boot at the end.

  189. CaptainJack says:

    Cut Mayowa. Hurts the team more than he helps.

  190. Pran says:

    Bobby and Mayowa costed 14 points… on top of the worst defense ever.

  191. Rob Staton says:

    So many dumb mistakes in this game.

    I don’t trust Seattle to finish this.

  192. AlaskaHawk says:

    Should be an interesting headline out of this game!!!!!

  193. Tony says:

    Az 4 TOs. Get ready for more seahawk defense.

  194. Rob Staton says:

    Please don’t call it an easy conversion, Chris.

    PS — run a bootleg Wilson run again or a read option.

  195. AlaskaHawk says:

    No problem for the Seahawks – if they can run the ball. So far = so good. I do like Hyde, and RW is killiing them with rushes.

  196. Volume12 says:

    Let’s go Hyde. Falls on you

  197. Bmseattle says:

    get ready for the fade bomb that Russ likes to throw in these moments

  198. Rob Staton says:

    I can’t believe that third down call.

  199. Rob Staton says:

    How has it come down to the defense needing to make a stop.

    This is a nightmare.

  200. CaptainJack says:

    Pathetic playcalling from Schotty. Just pathetic

  201. CaptainJack says:

    We deserve to lose this one

  202. Rob Staton says:

    It’s just TOO EASY.

  203. Pran says:

    This one would live as one of the Pete’s worst games…

  204. Rob Staton says:

    The Seahawks deserve to lose this game.

    Too many stupid mistakes.

  205. Volume12 says:

    Terrible

  206. Matt says:

    What’s the point of having Pete Carroll as HC? Seriously.

    • James P Kupihea says:

      The super bowl win, the over 100 total wins, come now…you’re being a little bit “tiwtter-ish”…

  207. AlaskaHawk says:

    Oh Lordy – we are going to overtime.

    The glass isn’t half full – it isn’t half empty.

    The glass is broken and shattered into 53 pieces.

  208. Tony says:

    Mayowa, this is mostly on you

    • CaptainJack says:

      What a great signing John Schneider! Most overrated GM in the NFL.

      You’d be nothing, NOTHING, without Russell, John.

  209. Henry Taylor says:

    Geno coming through in the clutch once again.

  210. Volume12 says:

    Here we go. Here we go.

  211. Pran says:

    Good lord..if Cards had onetime out could have won…

    You can’t be any worse going with all youth on the defense than playing shit loads of money to those vets.

  212. ReconUK says:

    If you want to be MVP Russ, here is another moment to do it. Go and finish the game

  213. Tony says:

    Man, if carson wasnt hurt that last drive.

  214. Tony says:

    Sack right on que.

    This is how u lose.

  215. Matt says:

    Russell…just get rid of it, dude.

  216. Rob Staton says:

    Come on attack them FFS.

  217. Rob Staton says:

    Wilson is always dreadful when a team shows all out blitz.

  218. Tony says:

    You failed russ.

  219. Matt says:

    Well…this could be the start of a journey to .500.

  220. Rob Staton says:

    How the hell is the defense going to stop them getting about 30 yards to win.

    What a mess.

  221. Rowdy says:

    Looks like game. Blame it on the d all you want but the offense holds just as much blame

  222. AlaskaHawk says:

    Ugh – Offense isn’t performing either. They couldn’t run it for a first down, they couldn’t throw it for a first down.

  223. GoHawksDani says:

    Did I really stayed up for this s.ht? RW didn’t play like an MVP and the defense sucks

  224. ReconUK says:

    We knew the defence was poor. I know Carson is out, I know Ifedi has returned but this OT is on Russ. Throw it away. We can only hope for miracles now. So glad I am here at 4am for this!

  225. Scot04 says:

    What a horrible way to lose. This defense is ridiculous

  226. Tony says:

    Heres that loss we were all waiting for

  227. Denver Hawker says:

    This is exactly the loss we expected this year. Hopefully motivate FO to get a deal done this week.

    • Pran says:

      Russ concussed or Schotty concussed? They are playing like there is Aaron Donald and Mack on face… cards have zero pass rush just like us yet…

  228. ReconUK says:

    The only positive I can think of from tonight, there are no excuses not to get help for this defence now. Even a blind man can see it.

  229. Jordan E says:

    Go Hawks!!! Our Team is 5-0 so we dont have to do anything right!??

    This loss is just demoralizing. And again! NICE JOB SIGNING AB!

  230. Pran says:

    No words.. Schotty had no answers for cards D. They had zero margin for error with that D …

    2 Russ picks and 2 dumb D penalties….. 20 free points swing.

  231. Matt says:

    Another 500 yard day for the defense. Pathetic.

  232. BoiseSeahawk says:

    Pathetic.

  233. Tony says:

    Great start to our big 5 game span.

  234. AlaskaHawk says:

    Oh that’s funny. Arizona screwed by their own timeout.

  235. Tony says:

    This is still a loss. I dont care what bs happens.

  236. Matt says:

    Holy cow…this team is just a straight mirage…yet they continue to pull things out. Just unreal.

  237. Robbie says:

    I don’t even know what to say right now.

  238. Henry Taylor says:

    This stadium man, weird shit happens here.

  239. Rob Staton says:

    Wilson’s all over the place.

  240. Pepperpig says:

    Unreal!

  241. James P Kupihea says:

    I LITERALLY CALLED IT. He’s been drifting left allllll night.

  242. Volume12 says:

    Iced their own kicker!

  243. Bmseattle says:

    Lucky that wasn’t a pick 6

  244. ReconUK says:

    If a Cat has 9 lives, how many lives does a Sea Hawk have?

  245. Tony says:

    Russ, stop pussyfooting around and throw it.

  246. Rob Staton says:

    Wilson is exhausted and we seem to have run out of plays.

  247. Volume12 says:

    Russ got drilled

  248. AlaskaHawk says:

    Arizona is blitzing freely. Up to 6 guys at a time.

  249. Rowdy says:

    This loss is 100% on russ

  250. Volume12 says:

    Nooooo!!

  251. Matt says:

    Russell has been awful outside of 3 throws.

  252. CaptainJack says:

    We were right.

    Seahawksdraftblog was right

  253. Gohawks5151 says:

    No one there.

  254. Volume12 says:

    Damn man

  255. AlaskaHawk says:

    That was a tough interception. I like their game better when they were mixing passes and runs.

  256. GoHawksDani says:

    RW doesn’t deserve MVP. Such stupid mistakes…wow…

  257. Matt says:

    This team is not winning another game until Philadelphia.

  258. ReconUK says:

    Russ is not the MVP.

  259. AlaskaHawk says:

    Well that sucks. A winnable game – pissed away.

  260. Gohawks5151 says:

    Russ was bad. Sign a pass rusher. Goodnight

  261. Scot04 says:

    Good thing Carroll loves games like this…

  262. JLemere says:

    Good job ARI. You made Russ Wilson look like a dumbass

  263. CaptainJack says:

    Tough sledding from here out. Could be one and done in the playoffs again. Hope this motivates them to make a move because there is absolutely no pass rush. Every Seahawks fan defending the front office this offseason is a blithering idiot.

  264. GoHawksDani says:

    Poor Lockett…only guy dressed up tonight (maybe DK too). I’m pissed. It’s 5:15 am gotta get up soon and was stay up for this s.htstorm

  265. Tony says:

    Good. Stop pretending. You cant ignore 1/3 of the game. And russ cant save you every week. Stop being blind about your team. Dumb mistakes all game.

  266. Denver Hawker says:

    The defense was consistent at least. Team just doesn’t have enough against a good opponent to win if Russ isn’t on his A-game. Refs definitely affected momentum and the mental side that comes with it. Russ was handed the ball to win several times tonight and didn’t get it done. It’s just how the season will be.

  267. Jordan E says:

    “We don’t need another weapon like AB. AB would just be the third WR anyway”
    “Rob- why are you always so negative. Hawks perfect 5-0. Team is great. No changes are needed”

    ^ Facepalm to these types of comments. That was a demoralizing loss.

  268. Volume12 says:

    Another play they had, taken away from a flag. 3 huge 1’s. Mayowa’s, the false start, and the hold. Even w/ Russ’s picks. Last 1 is all on him.

  269. OH Hawk says:

    Not one to bitch about refs but the bs call on Wagner on 3rd down really changed the game and let Arizona back into it.

    Having a average pass rush maybe that call doesn’t matter. Really need to go and get someone.

  270. CaptainJack says:

    To the people putting it on russ… what the ever loving hell? Russ was incredible most of the game.

    Did you seriously not watch how anemic the pass rush was? How absolutely dreadful the playcalling was at the end of the game AGAIN? DJ Dallas allowing Russ to get absolutely smoked on that last drive?

    Russ is still MVP. This defense is honestly so awful.

    • Matt says:

      Disagree. Russ had a couple incredible throws today; otherwise he wasn’t seeing the game very well. 3 of the worst interceptions I’ve ever seen from him.

      He hasn’t been very good the last few games.

    • Scot04 says:

      No way Russ can win an MVP with this defense

      • Jordan E says:

        He can. If anything he needs more weapons on offense. The offense is impotent without Carson. I am all for letting Russ Cook but they were like throwing every down at one point. We need more weapons. DK was shut down this game.

        • Scot04 says:

          They blew a 10 point lead with 5 minutes left. The offense can only win so many games; even with more weapons. This defense proved today offense alone can’t win every game. If we do get in the playoffs it will cost us a top seed. this defense as is will make for another early exit as well.

          • Jordan E says:

            I agree. This team needs to fix the defense if we really want to make a SB. Was just saying that Russ could still win an MVP if he had more weapons. Like Lamar Jackson was great last year and won the award but they were out real quick in the playoffs.

  271. 12th chuck says:

    we need a new d coordinator. I know its Pete’s d, but having Arizona march down 4 times last 4 drives is ridiculous along with a new d coordinator, a new d as well. they better try and acquire someone before the trade deadline

    • CaptainJack says:

      We just don’t have the talent. And now we don’t have the draft picks. John Schneider is a disaster.

      • 12th chuck says:

        drunk off their own success. lets hope they can acquire some bodies. at this point it might be worth trading away next years draft

  272. Hughz says:

    Blame this loss first on mowaya for that bone headed penalty that led to the TD instead of a fg. But secondly Russ gifted them 3 turnovers. Those three passes are just horrible and inexcusable.

  273. clbradley17 says:

    Talk about costly penalties! How many were there in the 4th qtr. & OT that cost us the game? And do we never learn any lesson? We continue to try and get cute and pass instead of running at the 2 or 3 yard line. Baker int. the first time, just like in Miami week 4 and with J. Kearse ending up with nothing 50 times passing to him over and over deep in the red zone for years. Like they said after the SB loss, RUN The Damn Ball!

  274. Pran says:

    Cards figured out Hawks Offense. Schotty had no answers and some of the dumbest play calls and execution.
    Cards D is no better than Hawks D players wise yet they could take down Russ and Co.
    Vance Joseph vs Ken decided the winner tonight.

    – worst officiating
    – dumb plays on offense and defense
    – defense less said better. Everyone can take 50% pay cut
    – there is no need for a DE trade. One and done in playoffs regardless
    – Let Russ Cook gone too far. Carson’s pay doubled tonight. This offense can’t do a shit without running game

  275. clbradley17 says:

    Tyler came to play! Too bad everything else had tons of flaws – D as usual, play-calling, costly penalties, OL getting Russ creamed several times, Russ getting int. 3 times, injuries to Carson and Griffin. We were at least 10 points up at least twice after halftime, and gave it away. Only great player was Tyler – he had 200 yds. 3 TDs and don’t follow fantasy, but saw he had a score in the 50s, never seen that for a WR, QB or at all as far as I can remember. When was the last time a WR had 200 yds. in a game?