Thoughts on Jarran Reed & Rees Odhiambo

May 4th, 2016 | Written by Rob Staton

Jarran Reed (DT, Alabama)
Who really expected Reed to last until pick #49? We had him at #16 in our final mock draft to the Detroit Lions.

The Seahawks love to be unconventional and so it proved again this year. While the rest of the NFL sought three-down prospects who can play in a world dominated by nickel defense and high-octane passing offenses — the Seahawks took a fierce run-defender and a blocking tight end (Nick Vannett) before the end of day two.

Having dragged the entire league into a new modern era — the Seahawks seem to be re-establishing the core foundation of what really made them successful. For all the new-age thinking and the many ways they’ve revolutionised the NFL — the Seahawks’ style of play is classical all the way.

Run the ball. Stop the run. Force turnovers. Protect the ball.

If you like tough football dripping with blood and sweat in the trenches — you’ll love Jarran Reed. I watched four games in the last 24 hours and didn’t see a single play where he lost leverage or was shoved into the backfield.

I’ve watched a lot of defensive linemen since starting the blog in 2008. Only Ndamukong Suh had quite this level of toughness up front.

Now let’s get one thing straight here — Reed is not Suh. For such an immovable object at the LOS he’s not the most effective bull rusher. He does have better athleticism than you’d think — and he played some DE as well as lining up inside. He can get into the backfield and chase down a quarterback.

He just isn’t Suh.

And that doesn’t matter.

In Seattle he’s going to be a run defender. I suspect he’ll continue to play some DE mixed in with most of his snaps at DT. He’s an absolute beast vs the run. He locks out brilliantly, controlling one or sometimes two blockers while somehow managing to locate the ball and make the tackle. He had more tackles than any other Alabama defensive lineman in 2014 and 2015 and it’s easy to see why.

Even as he controls the LOS he disengages like a savvy veteran. It’s a thing of beauty. You hardly ever see him linger on a block for more than a split second. When he needs to get clean and go chase the football — he’ll do it. When he finds the ball carrier he can pursue and finish and he’s a powerful form-tackler.

You never see him knocked off balance or on the turf. When he sets position and plants his legs — you’re not going to move him. He took on several double teams vs LSU and Clemson in particular and just maintained the original LOS. There’s no push. On one snap vs Tennessee he held up two blockers allowing linebacker Reggie Ragland a clean route to hammer the running back for a jarring hit.

Watching him next to A’Shawn Robinson is ideal. Robinson is passive and doesn’t play with the same level of sheer intensity. Reed is the tone-setter, the natural leader. His motor never stopped while Robinson was too often happy to stay blocked.

It helped that Reed was used in a heavy rotation and played about 60-70% of the snaps. The Seahawks would be wise to use him in the same way — and they can afford to with their new-found depth up front.

Watch the video below and fast forward to 2:09:10. This is the fourth quarter of the Senior Bowl — a showpiece finale to the more important week of workouts and drills.

Jarran Reed had just played in the National Championship game a couple of weeks earlier and didn’t even need to show up in Mobile (Ryan Kelly the center chose not to attend and compete). In the game he’d already made a big splash — chasing down Carson Wentz on one eye-catching play in the first quarter. Yet even with the game won and with just over five minutes to play — this is the kind of impact he was having:

Snap 1 — 2nd and 15
Reed disengages, chases down Jeff Driskel and tackles him from behind for a short gain. He dances in celebration.

Snap 2 — 3rd and 12
Short throw to Tyler Ervin. Jarran Reed disengages, retreats and again makes the tackle from behind to prevent the first down.

Snap 3 — 4th an 1
Tyler Ervin runs to try and make the first down. Reed escapes his block and helps stop the RB for a loss. Turnover on downs.

The Seahawks value gap discipline and he’s adept here. He does his job first and foremost and then looks for the ball. He’s not a one-gap penetrator but again — the Seahawks don’t need him to be. They’ll get their pass rush from Bennett, Avril, Clemons, Clark and hopefully Jefferson and Hill.

If he can control the LOS and absorb blocks like he did at the college level (that remains to be seen) it’ll create a lot of 1v1 opportunities for the DE working his side of the field plus Bobby Wagner and K.J. Wright.

Reed barely has any flaws. He’s just not a prolific pass rusher. The modern NFL has deemed that isn’t valuable enough to go early. The Seahawks saw an opportunity and grabbed it. More power to them.

If they wanted to become the bully again in 2016 — this was the guy to draft. Nobody embodies that identity more than Jarran Reed.

Daniel Jeremiah’s ranking of Reed (#13 overall in the class) was totally justified. The Seahawks stole one here.

Rees Odhiambo (T, Boise State)
I could only find one video for Odhiambo (vs Virginia) so it’s difficult to judge him (the usual minimum is three games). Even so, here’s what I noted…

In terms of agility you can see why the Seahawks’ sport science guys supposedly really value his upside. At 6-4 and 314lbs he moves really well. He has one of the best kick-slides you’ll see in this class and he had no issues at all setting his stance, re-setting, keeping the defender in front and mirroring.

There’s a lot to like about his fit in the ZBS. He’s an athlete for sure.

His upper body power was obvious and looks like another key characteristic the Seahawks valued. He delivered several jolts and he can hand-fight. As a run blocker he stoned a couple of defenders with a really nice piece of hand-use, gaining leverage and finishing.

Combining strength and mobility appears to be a major emphasis at the moment. It’s almost like a return to the ZBS roots albeit with size thrown into the mix (Joey Hunt, a classic ZBS center, is the exception).

On the slightly negative side though there wasn’t a clear edge to Odhimabo’s play and you’d love to see him knocking some helmet’s like we saw from Shon Coleman at Auburn. At tackle he’s a bit of a lunger and he sometimes overextends. Moving him inside will limit some of his weaknesses and bring out his power/agility.

To that extent he’s an exciting project for Tom Cable. He’s big, strong and mobile. Everything you hear about him suggests he’s a quick learner, he’s intelligent and a good worker. There’s no real pressure for him to start immediately (Mark Glowsinki appears to be pencilled in at left guard) and in a years time he could be really pushing to be the long term answer at that position.

Even though he’s better suited inside — like Ifedi he also has some swing-tackle benefits.

The key is health. He’s missed at least four games in each of the last three seasons. Injuries have been an issue for the Seahawks O-line in the past due to the physical nature of the scheme and their running style.

If he can avoid injuries he has a shot. John Schneider suggested this week he could’ve been a top-45 prospect without the health problems. At the very least it’ll be good to see legitimate competition across the O-line this summer — something the Seahawks badly lacked a year ago.

If you missed any of our other reviews so far, here’s the list:

Germain Ifedi
Joey Hunt
Nick Vannett & Alex Collins

At the moment there isn’t any Draft Breakdown tape of Quinton Jefferson and only a highlights video on Youtube. It’s not ideal but it is all-22:

We talked about him briefly in this weeks podcast, plus Kenny Lawler and Zac Brooks.

C.J. Prosise is someone we often discussed during the season and in the early part of the post-season. His role has been pretty much established as the third down back. He has excellent burst to the second level, is capable of taking a run to the house but he also has plenty of experience running routes as a former receiver. Expect him to wind up being the running back in the two minute drill.

We touched on some of the UDFA’s in the podcast but it’s a really good group.

Tyvis Powell has genuine Deone Bucannon potential. Brandin Bryant’s tape is fantastic and matches up with a tremendous pre-draft workout. He might be their most exciting UDFA signing if they can tap into his potential.

Cornerback DeAndre Elliott is someone we identified post-combine as a real candidate for Seattle — he ticks all the boxes in terms of playing style, size, length and range. George Fant could be the next Garry Gilliam while Christian French and Steve Longa will battle with the existing linebackers in one of the more intriguing camp battles.

Tanner McEvoy is 6-5, 231lbs and an amazing athlete. He could be their next Jameson Konz-style project because he doesn’t really have a set position. Montese Overton and David Perkins have a shot to make the team and who would rule out Trevone Boykin landing as a future backup for Russell Wilson?

The sheer depth of numbers and quality from the 2016 draft and UDFA could create a 2013 level of depth for the Seahawks.

I’ll be posting a 2017 top-25 summer watch list tomorrow and then taking a break. If anything happens (a podcast or radio appearance, some breaking news) I’ll make sure it’s posted on the blog.

132 Responses to “Thoughts on Jarran Reed & Rees Odhiambo”

  1. Nolan says:

    Rob thank you so much you do an amazing in here … I’m so sorry to hear your taking a break but it is understand or and well deserved. Can’t wait until the football starts back up and you start writing again… I’ll be checking the site everyday for updates any ways!

    • Lewis says:

      Yes, it’s been said a hundred times, but thanks for everything, Rob.

    • Steve Nelsen says:

      It has been said a hundred and one times now but still not said enough. Thank you.

    • SeventiesHawksFan says:

      Agree with this sentiment. Completely.

    • C-Dog says:

      Cool stuff, Rob. Count me in with the lot of those throwing out the many gratitudes. Haven’t been this excited about a draft class since 2012, and I might be even more excited about this one.

    • amocat says:

      Here here. Reading this blog makes a lot of people look really smart at the proverbial water cooler, I’m sure. I’m still kind of amazed anyone who’s not from the NW would devote so much to our team. As insanely fast as Seattle is growing, it still feels a little provincial up here.
      Enjoy your summer, and thanks a million!

  2. Kenny Sloth says:

    Brilliant work, Rob

  3. CC says:

    Fantastic write up as always Rob. I was delighted with the trade up for Reed – I love the way he plays. This draft class as a whole has so many players who could make the squad. I thought that maybe they brought in Browner to play that Buchanan role – sort of a hybrid safety/LB, someone who could get in the box to stop the run rather than be out in coverage, but Powell seems to be a better version of that. And maybe Browner was the hedge if we didn’t find one of these types in the draft.

    I’m also excited about Lawler – and frankly, while I appreciate what Kearse has been, I thought the contract he got was a bit high – and though it pains me, I’d love it if Lawler could take that spot away from Kearse. Time will tell and maybe he won’t, but I like his length and wingspan to help in the passing game.

    • Kenny Sloth says:

      Starting to have my doubts about BB making the squad.

      I agree about Kearse’s contract. I was prepared to see him go. Especially when he tweeted he was leaving. To get more money? Probably

      • C-Dog says:

        Pete mentioned they have a “special role” for BB this year that they’re excited about. My guess is something of a hybrid, and they probably keep him around. I wouldn’t underestimate the presences of him or Clem and their impact on that D in terms of toughness and veteran leadership.

    • Lewis says:

      Kearse isn’t going anywhere. He’s on the team this year because of his contract.

      • Volume12 says:

        It’ll be surprising if Browner doesn’t make it.

        I know I’m in the minority but Seattle needs some help at corner.

        Should have a cool package and different looks for Browner.

        • cha says:

          What worries you about the current CB group V? Lane & Simon’s injury record?

        • Steve Nelsen says:

          Yes. BB was still very effective last year when matched against bigger receivers. He was overused and misused by New Orleans due to their injuries and lack of depth at the position. They have a package of plays for him in mind and I think he can still be effective on the field and in the locker room. But, if not, then no worries because his contract makes it easy to cut him.

        • cha says:

          My post disappeared.

          V, what concerns you about the corners? Lane & Simon’s injury history?

          • Volume12 says:

            Yeah, a little bit of that.

            But, I just feel like the entire NFL is overdrafting ‘Seahawky’ corners. And I think the days of trying to hit on mid rounders at the position are behind us.

            Just like we saw Seattle budge on the arm length threshold for O-lineman, I think they will at CB too in the next year or so.

            I’m not necesarrily concerned per se, because it is PCs specialty, but shoring up that spot opposite Sherm will go a long way in terms of the future.

            Seattle will carry 5 corners this year as they always do, but can list Shead at safety. So basically 6 CBs.

            Sherm
            Lane
            Browner
            Shead
            Simon, SJB, or Mo
            Smitty (Tye Smith), Burley, or Elliott

            • cha says:

              So the Hawks have quantity covered, you think quality will be an issue?

              • Volume12 says:

                Exactly.

                As C- dog said though, I am exited to see which guy pops.

                A lot of people aren’t fans of pre-season or exhibition games, but it gives draft nuts like me and everyone else here at SDB to see what rookies or young guys shine.

                Now. They need at least one of SJB, Mo, or Smitty to come through. If one of those guys do, we’ll be good.

                I’m probaby not making sense huh?

                I think Browner gives the LOB what they’ve been missing. He’s not long term though.

            • C-Dog says:

              I’m kinda excited to see what might pop out of the group of Seisay, SJB, and Tye Smith this year, and maybe Farmer. Guys that kinda got stashed away for one reason or another. Smith in particular because they liked him enough to keep him on the 53, but he was rarely if at all active.

  4. chet380 says:

    Rob —

    FWIW, I share your enthusiasm about Reed’s prospects and your view that his solid anchoring of the DL will prove to be very beneficial for the future … as well, please accept my thanks for your hard work in producing your insightful and informative posts.

    P.S. – it was amusing to see that you followed that Brit usage in ” ..Ised” (revolutionised) — the Yanks will think you made a spelling mistake.

    P.P.S. – as a fellow snooker enthusiast, I am curious as to yr high run — mine is 84.

  5. Bill Valent says:

    Is it naive to say thank you for the interesting and well written material? Even if so, thank you Rob.

  6. Volume12 says:

    Great analysis Rob.
    I’m thrilled they took him.

    One thing about Odhiambo that stands out to me is recognition. He plays intelligent football. Very adept at picking updifferent looks the defense shows.

    Udub HC Cris Petersen had to highly recommend this guy. I love this guy. Amazing backstory. How could you nhot root for him?

    IDK if you meant this 2015, but there is tape of Odhiambo from last year vs SD St. Maybe RBs Jay Ajayi and Jeremy McNichols have cutups with Odhiambo in them?

    • Kenny Sloth says:

      Keeps his head on a swivel

    • C-Dog says:

      JS brought up the word intelligence along with grit at the season’s end when asked about what they would be looking for in OL. IMO, Rees, Germain, and Joey each made a ton of sense by being selected.

  7. cha says:

    Reed feels like the guy the Hawks can shape their interior DL around. If he fills the spot he can/should, they can continue to just interchange cheap FA’s and young draft picks in and out and save cap $ for other positions.

    • C-Dog says:

      That’s essentially what they did with Mebane. They inherited him as a player that was drafted during the Holmgren era, but saw his upside and value, extended his contract and built around him. They got Rubin for at least a couple more years, so they should pair up well together inside for a while. Can’t have enough quality DL. IMO, they should look to draft there every year.

  8. I freakin love this draft (UDFA included). What is even more exciting is how much I love some of the guys on the roster already who will likely show up and earns spots in the ’16 active roster.

    Regarding Rees it is worth mentioning that John said:

    >Rees is a Guard. He has played Tackle but he really fits the formula for being a Guard. Will find out if Left or Right. Tom Cable felt at the end of the day that Germain and Rees were the two strongest guys that he put his hands on throughout the spring.

    >We have really good durability grades on him by our sports science group. We don’t go purely off the medical history, he’s had two years in a row, so. But he had other compensating factors, his functional movement and his flexibility, he is an unbelievable bender for as big and strong as he is. He fits that grit they are looking for and extremely maturity.

    So the FO is really confident in their sports science department and medical department. They give him really good durability grades and said his injuries were bad luck. Interesting. If they can keep him healthy we got a top 45 talent at 97. If he can redshirt his first year on the bench, getting his body in peak condition and strength in the Strength & Conditioning program and be ready to compete for LG in 2017? Whoa.

    I see it going this way: Webb gets cut in ’17 (his contract is setup that way), Ifedi moves over to RT, Glow moves back to RG, and Rees earns starting LG. That makes our OL in ’17 look like:

    LT: Gilliam
    LG: Rees
    C: ? (Hunt? Lewis? Sokoli?)
    RG: Glow
    RT: Ifedi

    • Sea Mode says:

      I think that wins my favorite line from this whole draft season, from the day 2 press conference:

      – Reporter: “You’re listing Rees as a guard?”
      – JS: “He’s played tackle, but he really fits the formula for guard, that we’re going to give him a shot right there.”
      – Reporter: “Left or right…?”
      – JS: “Hopefully.”

      • Sea Mode says:

        Sorry, that was PC on the first reply.

        • Then the next day on Brock & Salk John Schneider said this about Rees: “Great workout, great upside, really strong, gonna have him compete at LG.”

          • Sea Mode says:

            I think the scenario you present makes a lot of sense though, depending on Odhiambo’s health.

            It will also be interesting to see how long Fant might need before possibly getting a shot at the RT spot. Maybe he will be the one to beat out Webb next year, and that would allow us to stay big at both guard spots.

            • manthony says:

              I could see it.
              It seems we always try to stash some young talent on ir even when its not a season ending injuries.
              With Reese he seems like as good of a canidate as anyone to take a redshirt year. I know that Reese is only coming off of a break and not tear so, who knows, maybe hes healthy enough to compete right away.

    • Greg Haugsven says:

      I agree Nathan. Lewis will probably be gone cuz he will be a UFA. Webb probably gone due to his contract layout. Also could see Rees and Glow flip flopped but it appears the names you have will be accurate

  9. Sea Mode says:

    Here’s another Odhiambo vid vs. Washington. It’s the full game not cut up though so you will have to skip to offensive drives.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThkXgdS-hwY

    (#71 LT)

  10. CHawk Talker Eric says:

    SEA released Drew Nowak, Josh Shirley, Cameron Marshall, Ronnie Shields and Tyler Slavin

  11. Dave says:

    Seeing as tomorrow will be the last post for a while (deservedly so) I just want to say thank you for providing this service throughout the year and particularly in draft season.

    It’s gotten to the point that I am refreshing the page around half 9 (UK time) each evening to see the latest news or opinion and you have, over the last few years, developed a real talent for this. I wish you all the best.

    All that said – I agree that we’ve just restored the competition required to dominate. Some of this draft class won’t make it on the team but I know for sure who does will make an impact. That’s not something we’ve had since 2013 and I’m extremely excited to watch us bully 2016.

  12. UkHawkDavid says:

    Quick shout out to Mrs. Staton for allowing our Rob to spend so much time entertaining us all here – she must be a saint! Cheers one and all!

  13. GeoffU says:

    Zig when others zag, grab where the strength is. Instead of getting the 8th best pass rusher, Seattle gets the best run defender of the draft (a perhaps the last few drafts). Instead of reaching in a week TE class praying for a pass catcher, they grab the best run blocking tight end of the draft (and perhaps the last few drafts). Helps, of course, that both fit the style of this team perfectly.

    Also, I’m not so convinced that Jefferson won’t be better than many of the other so called pass rushers that were drafted. I know we all had doubts about everyone but Rankins.

    • manthony says:

      Lol, i have a lot of friends down in Lousiana and most of em hate the Rankins pick. Would rather of had Ashawn in the first. But i echo Robs thoughts on Ashawn, didnt ever seem passionate and at times, undetermined.
      I know Rankins is thought of highly in here, and its funny how Rankins would of be a piece we certainly could of used and used correctly. He might not look great in a lesser defense especially if used incorrectly.
      Our confidence in our FO and coaches is unparalelled.

  14. Madmark says:

    This is why I come to this site. I my self have a somewhat hard time expressing what I see into words. Rob however does it very good. I like to give you an example about this article as he describes Reed.
    “Even as he controls the LOS he disengages like a savy veteran. It’s a thing of beauty. You hardly ever see him linger on a block for more than a split second. When he needs to get clean and go chase the ball- he’ll do it.”
    His whole description was just dead on and when ya listen to him in the podcast with that English accent he gives us that true gentlemen evaluation. I never paid attention to Reed because and I didn’t think anyone would have saw him dropping that far. This to me is the best pick. I think this guy will be better than Mebane for what they want him to do.
    So thank ya Rob for sharing your Talent that you have.

  15. Mylegacy says:

    On Reed…

    Like many here I’ve read everything I can find on everybody we drafted and signed. On Jarran I’m sure I read an article where they quote him as saying (and I paraphrase): “I was never asked to penetrate into the backfield, I was asked to control the center of the line.”

    IF – that is true I’m inclined to think we may be in for a very pleasant surprise – I couldn’t understand how a guy stronger than a bull and surprisingly athletic for his size couldn’t penetrate the LOS. I PREDICT, at the very least, he’ll be able to mount a serious bull rush from the middle. Perhaps, he’ll even be able to show more finesse and be able to split the line and gap into the backfield.

    These four pre-season games are going to be PURE PLEASURE! And then will come the main course.

    • C-Dog says:

      I think Pete Carroll is definitely going to look to see if he can develop as a penetrating presence. JS mentioned on the radio again the other day they feel they have a player with some upside as a rusher, but wasn’t asked to do that for Bama.

      One thing about Reed that I think perhaps doesn’t get talked about enough is that when he was in JUCO, he was a 260 lb linebacker who grew into a DT. I think that might indicate some levels of athleticism and untapped potential that might be higher than some folks think. They aren’t even sure what he is yet outside of a run defender. Carroll was non committal when asked if he was a 1 tech or a 3 tech, said they would figure it about between Rubin and him.

      Rob’s right though, he’s not Suh. He would have been a top 5 pick if he was. Still, man, I love this pick!

    • Eran-Ungar says:

      Alabama play with 3 men on the line. A two gaping nose tackle needs to anchor the line rather than push downfield.

      More often than not, they replaced Reed on obvious passing downs like the Seahawks did with Mebane.

      That does not leave a lot of room for one gaping adventures and Reed still had 3 sacks on the season.

      I do not see Reed developing into a penetrating single gap force but everything i see on tape indicates that 1v1 he has the power to drive the OL back and push the pocket back. There is more to collapsing a pocket than just penetrating for a sack.

      Half of the 2016 season games will be played against top 10 rushing teams (2xRams, 2xARI, CAR, JETS, BUFF, TB). Add NE and GB to the mix and a robust rushing defense is a must.

      Many of those teams are very dangerous on 2nd and long. You need to keep your base D against the run knowing that they are as likely to pass in that situation. Someone like Reed that can push the pocket on those downs could turn out as a crucial advantage.

      To me, Reed is by far the steal of this draft class and the biggest upgrade value of all picks.

      As for the OL, when you look back at the whole offseason as a unit, the Seahawks practically added a full OL to the roster – Sowell, Rees, Hunt, Webb, Ifedi. Other than possibly Lewis or Britt, we are likely to see new players playing their respective positions. It would take time and effort to get them to gel together. If we are going to undertake those growing pains, we might as well do it with long term players to benefit for year to come. I will not be shocked to see all 3 rookies getting their chance plus Gilliam, Webb, Glow/Britt.

      • Dawgma says:

        Agreed on the OL. I’m just hoping they settle on a lineup early enough that they can start to figure out the chemistry in the preseason I stead of like week 5. That was a big, big problem last year. Personally I hope they do give Ifedi a shot if (…when) Webb predictably struggles.

        LT: Gilliam
        LG: Odhiambo/Sokoli
        C: Hunt/Lewis
        RG: Glow
        RT: Ifedi

        looks like a massive upgrade over last year…if Gilliam can actually handle the left side. Everyone seems to take that as a given, but it makes me nervous because there’s literally no other option. If we get 5 games in and he’s not up to it…well, we’ll be picking high enough to get a new LT in the draft next year.

        • CDub says:

          3 possible rookies on the starting line? Not saying they won’t do it, but that would be pretty light in the experience department.

          • manthony says:

            Sowell is (not much)competition at the LT.
            Despite all the competition talk, listening to Pete, it sounds like Webbs bn gifted the RT spot.
            Wonder if its in part to having somewhat if a veteran presence on the ol

  16. CharlieTheUnicorn says:

    I’m uncomfortable with the Seahawks draft class getting A or B grades…… am I missing something, they are supposed to get Cs or Ds or Fs. Are we over valuing this draft too much or has have the draft “experts” finally got wise to Seattle’s drafting madness.

    I think Seattle prefers to be disrespected; on the field, in the front office, even the owner.
    Being a favorite or close to odds on favorite to win SB LI is truly odd.

    • GeoffU says:

      Doesn’t surprise me. Grades are based almost always on the first or second round and in the first a lot of “experts” mocked Ifedi to us and had Jarran Reed in the mid-high first round. We just made them look smart rather than dumb for once, which is all they really want to see. I was bound to happen sooner or later, but of course Schneider don’t give a damn one way or the other. Looking good in spring don’t mean diddly.

      • manthony says:

        For what its worth, Ive seen some C grades out there. One website gave the Lambs an A grade and us a C think it was profootball focus or something. Not a site i frequent just wanted fo check out team by team draft classes.
        Ultimatley, draft grades arent that important and shouldnt be looked into a lot, theyre thers for entertainment and maybe could be somewhat informative to the casual fan, but the analysis and breakdown that goes on here for surpasses any quickly writtem short draft gradw.

        • Volume12 says:

          I saw one website say, ‘every time I give Seattle a bad draft grade, it turns out good. I liked this draft and gave it a good grade. So that means….?’

          Going into any draft the goal is obviously to hit on 7 or 8 or 9, whatever, good players. That’s a little unrealistic. Getting 2 day 1, instant impact starters is a homerun draft IMO.

          Identify 2 guys on each side of the ball as ‘must haves.

          Ifedi, Reed. Done and done.

          That’s not even mentioning TE Nick Vannett playing a starter type role. Collins and Prosise basically splitting starter level carries with Rawls. Hunt and Odhiambo as 2 potential, highly likely starters. And a guy like Madden or Bryant either being a starter at FB or competing/backing up Brandon Cottom if he wins that spot.

          It seems more people liked last year’s drft and we came away with really one starter in RB Thomas Rawls.

          Clark plays starter reps and minutes, as does Tyler Lockett. And we got 2 potential starters on the O-line in Glow and Soko. Same thing this year with the previously mentioned Hunt and Odhiambo.

          And then we get 2 developmental or depth guys on the defensive side of the ball, back to back, in CB Tye Smith and DL Quinton Jefferson.

          2 future foundation drafts.

          Next year if wr can add a FA O-lineman for whatever role and an EDGE rusher and CB early on, the future got so bright we’ll all need sunglasses!

          • CharlieTheUnicorn says:

            2017: C, DE, LB, WR, TE and perhaps CB in this order.

          • mtskibum16 says:

            You wouldn’t consider Lockett a starter? Seems odd considering he’s a starter at two positions. I like last year’s draft, but this year’s is great too.

            • Volume12 says:

              Fair point about him being a starter on STs.

              When they go to 3 receiver sets, he’s a starter. When it’s 11 personnel, no.

              As I said, he plays starter reps and gets starter minutes.

              • CharlieTheUnicorn says:

                I can see him sneaking into the 2 WRs sets in 2016. He just is that good.

                • manthony says:

                  Good break down V12.
                  I am right there with ya.
                  I like this draft a lot, last year wasnt bad, i came away from the draft where we nabbed britt and Preach very upset so i dont always gush, and do view the team objectively at times.
                  This draft has me stoked!
                  In years past, it seems when guys who couldve bn nice fits have slid, we mightve bn too tentative. This year i was really impressed with how well they manuevered, and and the really picked there spots.
                  JS and the guys put on a master class.
                  And add to it, the UDFA class, we were able to get prospects that other posters had mocked us drafting.
                  The beauty of it.
                  -still getting ifedi and an extra 3rd
                  -going up and getting a top 15 talent like Jarron Reed in the second.
                  – Prosise and Vannett add dynamics to the offense that wasnt here last week
                  – hope jefferson or the udfa bryant pan out.
                  -everyones stoked on Joey Hunt, and the WR from Cal
                  (after losing two Golden Bears this year who should eventually be in the Ring of Honor, i liked going back to that honey hole)
                  – and as Rob pointed out, since we heavily focused on Offense during the draft we were able to be even mire of a destination for udfas.
                  I am getting long winded, but i can go on. I love this draft tho

                  • Volume12 says:

                    Yeah, and just to point out, I wasn’t by no means saying that last year’s draft wasn’t good, because it was.

                    Any time you walk away with 4 starters, potential starters, etc. it’s a homerun IMO.

                  • manthony says:

                    I liked this years draft and last years, the two years before that where Minnesota had our first rd pick were the two i wasnt high on

                  • Volume12 says:

                    Wasn’t a huge fan of either myself TBH.

                    But, to be fair, in 2013 we had 0 needs. That was one of the deepest teams in NFL history. Watching pre-season that year, it was almost unfair the talent we had at the botom of the roster.

                    Guys like DT Jaye Howard and DB Ron Parker (the oe that got away according to JS) didn’t even make the team.

                    Plus, 2013 was an awful draft in general.

    • Steele says:

      They got better grades because the draft was, I think, more conventional than previous ones. They addressed needs, picked known guys, did close to where expected to do so, didn’t really pull any “what the” shockers.

      And who cares, right?

  17. James says:

    I am an Alabama alum and have seen every one of Jarran Reed’s games. He is not so much a steal, as an armed robbery. The guy was valued beyond description by Nick Saban and his entire staff, and was the true alpha dog of their championship defense. When the loathsome spread offense began to infest the college game, even Alabama had a hard time dealing with it for a couple of seasons. But Saban finally devised a brick-wall defense against it last season. He had his three interior linemen hold the fort and not react to mis-direction, nor were they allowed to rush the passer other than pushing the entire OL backwards into the QB. With elite speed at LB, Bama finally shut down the spread just enough to out-score it, and won the national championship. Every coach and player on that defense recognized Jarran Reed as the most valuable player. He is maximum effort combined with perfect inside fundamentals combined with otherworldly strength. Ya’ll are going to be amazed. Heck, he even played goal-line fullback, so maybe he will do that, too.

    • Steele says:

      James, that is great and useful information. Thanks for that.

    • manthony says:

      “He is not so much a steal, as an armed robbery. ”

      Poetic. I can dig it.

      James i have a good friend who is a big time Bama fan, and he gushes more about Ashawn. I dont think he watches film, just the games on gameday. Who would you of nabbed first if you could choose between Ashawn and Jarron

  18. Volume12 says:

    This doesn’t pertain to the Hawks, but I gotta ask ya’ll. Eveyone chime in if ya want.

    K Roberto Aguayo. Selected by Tampa Bay with the 59th overall pick.

    If New England or Green Bay took him in round 2 the consensus would be ‘what a genius move!’

    But, TB does it and everyone goes ‘a kicker!? In round 2!?’

    Personally I like the move. He’s a guy that puts points on the board, can a be a 10+ year starter, and in today’s NFL has the kicker and kicking game ever been more important?

    • Steele says:

      If the guy is a stud, it is no crazier than Oakland taking Janikowski. Who has become an institution.

    • CharlieTheUnicorn says:

      I still think it was a horrible move, take him in the 3rd…. but you could have taken someone decent in the second to bolster the roster… who might play every down on offense or defense

    • sdcoug says:

      I don’t have the numbers to back this up, but I thought I read that Aguayo was a stud inside 40-45 yrs or something, but was much less accurate from 45+. There are lots of kickers who are good from “short” but it’s the longer distances where the money is made. Again, I’m not looking up the numbers to varify this, but if true…I can understand the criticism of using such a high pick

    • GeoffU says:

      Nope, still ridiculous, no matter what

    • mtskibum16 says:

      I don’t get it. He isn’t a proven stud more than any other draft prospect. I’m sure kickers’ skills may translate to the NFL better than other positions, but it’s still not a 100% that he’ll be great. Too much cost for the potential benefit of a solid kicker. I would think the same thing if it was NE or GB….but guess what, they didn’t do that because it makes no sense.

      • Volume12 says:

        Makes no sense, because he’s a K.

        New England takes something like 8 QBs since Brady’s been there, takes Joe Thuney in a supposedly deep draft in round 3, not one QB has ever seen the field for them, they draft a LS in round 5 or 6, and it’s the genius of BB.

        Your exactly right. He’s no more proven than an offensive or defensive player.

        Kicker’s put points on the board.

        • CHawk Talker Eric says:

          If kicker was a big for them it’s hard argue picking the best player at the position at the end of R2.

          But I wonder is he really that good? Obviously TBB think so. But like sdcoug points out, he’s not particularly impressive from 40+ yards.

          I also question the value; wouldn’t he still have been available at 74 or even 106 (their R3 and R4 picks)?

        • sdcoug says:

          Cassell would argue differently

          • John_s says:

            Other than Matt Cassell they haven’t seen the field because Brady has been pretty durable though the years. Have the guys panned out? No but what are the percentage for 3rd, 4th rd guys turning into long term starters in the league? I can only think of Russ.

            Not sure what Joe Thuney a guard has to do with this?

            • Volume12 says:

              That’s my point!

              Why waste mid round picks on QBs that will never play? Ecspecially when you got a backup in place. At least Aguayo will put points on the board, fills a need, and gives you a starter.

              The point about Joe Thuney is this draft was lauded as the deepest in years. Really? Joe Thuney going where he did and the fact a kicker went in round 2 says otherwise IMO. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and I agree with that.

              Deep? Maybe. Good ‘depth?’ Yes.

    • RealRhino2 says:

      Is it important? I think it’s an incredibly dumb move.

      Best FG kickers in the league last year missed 2 FGs. Worst full-time missed 5 FGs. 3 FGs over the course of an entire season. Stupid. The odds are really, really small that any of those kicks would end up being game-deciding kicks, and if they were, that they would be of the 45+ yard variety where the difference in kickers is more telling.

      Same with extra points. Best kickers miss zero, worst miss 4. All year. Most of those happen where they don’t make a difference.

      Short version, difference between great kicker and average kicker is almost nil. Difference between 2nd-round LB such as Bobby Wagner and average LB such as, say, Mike Morgan, is huge.

      • Donald says:

        I disagree. Kickers are important. The difference between a great kicker and average kicker is big when it is your team behind by 2 with 6 sec. left in the game at 40 yd line.

        • RealRhino2 says:

          Again, though, those situations rarely arise. I’m not a statistician (which will probably soon become clear), but it still doesn’t make sense to me.

          Let’s figure this out. Over 20 years, Vinatieri hit 30 game-winning FGs. Most ever. Over 23 years, John Carney hit 26, Jason Elam hit 25 over 17 years, Ryan Longwell hit 22 over 15 years. These are the most of all time. So basically, at most you are looking at 1.5 game-winning FGs per year.

          Now, as I’ve already said, the difference between the absolute best kickers in the NFL and an average kicker is very minimal. 2-3 extra misses over an entire season. But misses are (probably) randomly distributed among attempts (save for a higher miss rate at longer distances), so the chances of one of these 2-3 misses popping up on one of the 1-2 game-winning opportunities is already extremely small.

          Consider Vinatieri. 30 makes. The average NFL kicker would have made only 28 of those. But that’s two wins over 20 YEARS. Just not enough of a difference to justify the pick, IMO. Not vs. the kind of star player you could end up with in the 2nd.

          • RealRhino2 says:

            Just to flesh out that last point, some guys taking within #59 (where they took Aguayo) to #64 between 1985 and 2005: Aeneas Williams, Darren Sharper, Brian Dawkins, Mo Lewis, Darnell Dockett, Olin Kreutz, Vincent Jackson, Kordell Stewart, Keith Traylor, Brad Meester, Tim McKyer.

            • AlaskaHawk says:

              Seems to me that I remember the Seahawks losing a few games due to missed field goals in the last five years. It isn’t just the last attempt that counts, it is every missed kick and the loss of field position that counts against the team.

              • RealRhino2 says:

                True. Like I said, I’m not good enough with statistics (and/or game theory) to know the answer, just saying that the difference doesn’t seem great enough to matter. Kind of like the value of a great reliever vs. a great everyday player in baseball.

    • Mexican Hawk says:

      Have no problem with taking a kicker this early, just not in this instance. Disagree on two fronts. His accuracy on 40+ and trading up for him (losing valuable capital). For Aguayo’s sake hope he becomes an all timer.

    • manthony says:

      With the longer PATs, I think it makes Kickers a little more important.
      2nd round seems steep tho

      • Volume12 says:

        He’s attempted 271 kicks over his career and missed 8. That’s it.

        Never missed a PAT. He’s a perfect 195 for 195.

        He’s 68 of 76 on FGs. 97% career kicker.

        Sebastian Janikowski missed 20 kicks. In 59 fewer attempts.

        IIRC Aguayo never missed a FG in the 4th quarter with the game on the line or in jeopardy.

        • Volume12 says:

          *Aguayo had 59 more attempts than Janikowski.

          • David M2 says:

            Plus TBB has to love the Latin last name. They won their last championship with Martín Automatica Gramatica….

  19. Ode says:

    As always, thanks for all your research!

  20. Rad man says:

    rest of the league goes after fast pass rushers and the Seahawks build the right side of their line with 320lb O lineman to push them around. And while the league over drafts for pass rushers, hawks get the undervalued run stuffer that helps turn opposing offenses into one dimensional passing schemes, thereby enhancing the seahawks pass rush

    you zig, they zag

  21. teeman2110 says:

    Hey guys….laying low this draft but watching and researching when/where I can. Mind blown. JS and staff did a hecka of a job this draft. Trade down, trade up, add a pick and take offensive player picks and load up on D with UDFA.

    Absolutely love the Ifedi, Reed, Vannett, Collins picks based on fit and value. None of the picks I can squabble with. This UDFA class is crazy. Four or five could make the active/PS squads.

    Rob-Thanks for all your hard work and thoughtful posts. Nearly impossible I believe certain profiles and stats have been fleshed out this year to help us target potential draft picks moving forward. Excellent work on the development and application of TEF as it pertains to us.

    Vol12, Seamode, CHawk Talker, Nathan and others….thanks for help bringing some great content this draft season.

  22. James says:

    A fool and his reputation are soon parted, so here is my first 53-man:

    QB (2), lock: Russell Wilson; bubble: Trevone Boykin, Jake Heaps, Vernon Adams

    RB (4), lock: Thomas Rawls, CJ Prosise; bubble: Alex Collins, Christine Michael, Zac Brooks (FB: unknown or Brandin Bryant or ?)

    WR (5), lock: Doug Baldwin, Tyler Lockett, Jermaine Kearse, Paul Richardson; bubble: Kasen Williams, Kevin Smith, Kenny Lawler

    TE (3), lock: Jimmy Graham, Luke Willson, Nick Vannett

    OL (10), lock: Garry Gilliam, Patrick Lewis, Germain Ifedi, J’Marcus Webb, Justin Britt, Mark Glowinski, Kristjan Sokoli, Joey Hunt, Bradley Sowell, Rees Odhiambo (yes, all 10 are locks, by my view)

    DL (9), lock: Michael Bennett, Cliff Avril, Jarran Reed, Ahtyba Rubin, Frank Clark, Quinton Jefferson; bubble: Chris Clemons, Jordan Hill, Brandin Bryant, Sealver Siliga, Ryan Robinson, David Perkins

    LB (7), lock: Bobby Wagner, KJ Wright, Cassius Marsh, Mike Morgan; bubble: KPL, Brock Coyle, Eric Pinkins, Christian French, Steve Longa

    DB (10), lock: Richard Sherman, Earl Thomas, Kam Chancellor, Jeremy Lane; bubble: DeShawn Shead, Brandon Browner, Kelcie McCray, Tye Smith, Mo Seisay, Tharold Simon, Marcus Burley, Stanley Jean-Baptiste, Tyvis Powell, Steven Terrell

    ST (3), lock: Steven Hauschka, Jon Ryan; bubble: LS Drew Ferris or ?

    {notes: there will be so much talent on this team, John and Pete will go to great lengths to retain as many rookies as possible; keep only 4 RB so they can keep 10 OL, with the FB slot taken by a DL; may keep 9 DBs so they can keep 10 DL; can probably only keep 5 WRs}

    • DC says:

      QB Still hoping that T Jack comes back. The best of the remaining guys can go practice squad. It’s been great to continually carry only 2 on the roster.

      RB Collins will make the team. They could carry up to 6 here if Bryant makes it as a 2 way player.

      WR & TE look straight forward.

      OL Gilliam, Ifedi & Glowinski are sure things. Odhiambo & Hunt were just brought in for a purpose so they are a safe bet. Lewis & Webb seem required this year even though they may not figure into the long term vision. Dog fight for the last 2 or 3 spots.

      DL I would swap Siliga with Jefferson in the “lock” spot.

      LB will be a fight at the back end.

      DB Shead, McCray(ST) and Browner(red zone) probably make it. So many bodies here. Hopefully a new star is born out of the remaining guys. This group has been decimated by injuries lately.

    • CharlieTheUnicorn says:

      Here is my stab at it… tough cuts, but very deep team
      Offense 25
      QB (2), lock: Russell Wilson, Trevone Boykin PS – Adams
      RB/FB (5), lock: Thomas Rawls, CJ Prosise, Alex Collins, Cottom (one of the other guys)
      WR (6), lock: Doug Baldwin, Tyler Lockett, Jermaine Kearse, Kasen Williams, Kevin Smith, Kenny Lawler
      TE (3), lock: Jimmy Graham, Luke Willson, Nick Vannett
      OL (9), lock: Garry Gilliam, Patrick Lewis, Germain Ifedi, J’Marcus Webb, Mark Glowinski, Kristjan Sokoli, Joey Hunt, Bradley Sowell, Rees Odhiambo
      Defense 26
      DL (9) lock: Michael Bennett, Cliff Avril, Jarran Reed, Ahtyba Rubin, Frank Clark, Quinton Jefferson, Brandin Bryant, David Perkins, Chris Clemons; PS Ryan Robinson
      LB (6) Bobby Wagner, KJ Wright, Cassius Marsh, Brandon Browner*, Christian French, KPL
      PS – Steve Longa, Eric Pinkins
      DB (11) Richard Sherman, Earl Thomas, Kam Chancellor, Jeremy Lane, DeShawn Shead, Tyvis Powell, Kelcie McCray, Tye Smith, Mo Seisay, Tharold Simon, Marcus Burley
      PS – Stanley Jean-Baptiste
      ST (2), lock: Steven Hauschka, Jon Ryan (my hunch LS will be Hunt)

    • CHawk Talker Eric says:

      On Joey Hunt. If he can’t beat out Lewis, I’m not sure he makes the 53. He’s a one-position player (as is Lewis), and you can have only one of those in the OL group.

      • DC says:

        If they think Hunt has the potential to be an eventual starter he could stick. It’s not a bad idea to have a backup center. The comfort level with Sokoli would factor in.

    • J says:

      I don’t think we will roll with two guys who are center only. Really limits the roster. The backup center will be guard capable, maybe Sokoli, maybe some other teams roster cut.

      Only one of Hunt and Lewis make it, in my opinion. Perhaps Hunt is the LS and they shoehorn him in that way.

      Also can’t see counting on Jimmy Graham being ready week one due to injury. Comes off the PUP week 12, and we have him fully back week 16/playoffs.

      • RealRhino2 says:

        Agree with this, which is why I think instead of Odhiambo they should have perhaps taken a C/G guy rather than a straight G. I think the lack of a 4th-rounder made them take Odhiambo earlier than they otherwise might have.

        I have real concerns about Hunt’s lack of size at C. Can he move guys if he needs to? He does a good job moving his feet in the tape I’ve seen, but rarely got to see him try to move anybody in the run game. Not as much as I’d like to feel comfortable, anyway.

        • Volume12 says:

          They got a C/G in Sokoli.

          How does having 2 C’s limit them?

          They may have created a scenario where they roll with 10 O-lineman instead of 9. If, and big if, Sowell is anything more than a hedge. But, they don’t really have a swing tackle capable of playing LT. Maybe George Fant. That’s probably wishful thinking though.

          Gilliam, Glow, Lewis, Ifedi, Webb, Odhiambo, Hunt, Britt, Sokoli, and maybe Sowell.

  23. Roland jose says:

    The injury history worries me, but I can see why they took a chance, cause his athletic traits his feet especially, skill set is perfect for their ZBS, and he can pass protect to which is great, reed is gonna b a monster for our dline for years to come, why did Billings drop other than he was seen as a 2 down lineman?, i wish we would have drafted him, imagine him pared up with Reed for the next 4 years no worries about the run or looking to free agency for another cheap older veteran, now that I know the Hawks scheme better, i know that Bill Walsh wants the DT to crush the pocket, by pushing the guard back into the QB, thus moving him off his spot, so sacks aren’t as important as not giving the qb a pocket to throw from, so qb pressure’s, is maybe a better stat to look at., Hunts skill set from what I’ve read seems great, but his size up front worries me, but if P Lewis can do it, so can he. Can’t wait to see how all these new RB’s we drafted are gonna fit in our offense. Awesome draft GO HAWKS!;)

  24. Mexican Hawk says:

    Competition as a whole in camp is going to be awesome. Margin for error last year was minimal. Nothing like having depth all over.

    We will lose some quality players (think Jaye Howard, Benson Mayowa, Spencer Ware), but also have the flexibility to pull off some trades. Would be tough to get good value as teams would rather wait for you to cut players outright.

    Justin Britt might be a player they pull the plug on early. One of PC/JS tenets is not agonizing over failed evaluations and getting over misses so as to not hurt team any longer. Britt a tough son of a gun hope he makes it. Can probably not get anything higher than a 6th for him?

    Lawler

    • CharlieTheUnicorn says:

      I think Britt might stick on the roster, not as a starter, but as a 4th TE/OT for heavy packages. Considering where he came from and how much he has improved in the NFL, it is remarkable.

      • V12 says:

        They’ve created a chip on Britt’s shoulder the size of a boulder.

        Probably want him as a swing guy for 2 more years.

    • RealRhino2 says:

      At first glance it seems as if we’ve created all kinds of competitive depth on the OL, but the scary thing is that no matter how you slice it, either Britt or Webb will still be starting somewhere. Not good.

      • Dawgma says:

        Each, this is why I’m surprised they won’t let Ifedi at least have a Crack at RT. if he wins that job you have other options at guard. There’s only one other potential tial RT on the roster and he’s, uh, a typical Seahawks RT. By that I mean awful, of course.

        • J says:

          They didn’t sign him saying, “oh, this guy is terrible. We’d better sign him quick”.

          They think he is a good RT. Thats why they signed him. So it makes perfect sense they would start Ifedi at guard. Doesn’t surprise me one bit.

          Webb has been good at RT before, with the Bears.Was one of the more promising guys in the league. He certainly has RT tools, massive size and length. (36 inch arms). I’m going to wait and see.

  25. Eran-Ungar says:

    The Seahawks under JS have traded up 4 times in 6 years. Two of those trade ups were used to draft a big physical run stuffer from Alabama. That should tell us something.

    Alabama plays 3 men up front. Those guys are charged with holding the LOS in place allowing the LBs open field to clean anything that gets thru. Reed was either 2 gaping or taking on a double team and anchoring the line. When you envision his role with Wags and K.J. behind him it makes perfect sense. They drafted Jesse for the same role.

    At Bama, Reed was replaced on most obvious passing plays and still recorded 3 sacks for the year. His value as a pocket pusher is yet to be determined. It may still be a great aspect of his game to be developed. As a single gap player (crooked nose) he may prove as a perfect solution to stop QBs from stepping up into the pocket that frustrated Avril and Irvin so much last year.

    The Jefferson pick is underrated. The Seahawks do not trade up for depth behind a role player (Hill). The Seahawks never traded up using future picks unless it got them someone they saw as a sure thing (Harvin). Trading next year’s 4th to get Jefferson may be more telling than his measurables or game tape. He is not replacing a player we lost after 2015, he is brought in because there is something about him the team wants and it’s not just possible future potential. I will not be surprised if we’ll see him on the field during the year, possibly replacing Hill on passing downs.

    The OL – Looking back at the offseason as a whole, The Seahawks has quietly brought in a full OL. Sowell, Webb, Hunt, Rees and Ifedi can play all positions. With Okung and Sweezy gone and Gilliam shifting to LT we’ll have at least 3 new faces at thier respected positions. Maybe 4 if we believe someone will beat Britt/Lewis at LG/C. There will be growing pains and “work in progress” statements when we start the season. It puts Lewis and Sowell on very thin ice. If you have to build the OL from scrach again, you might as well do it with players under contract for years to come and reap the benefits next year and beyond.

    Procise and Vannett could open some very interesting options for the Seahawks offense. Fielding 2 in line TE’s with a RB on 3rd and short against a heavy DL front and depleted secondary is a “no huddle” away from an empty back field with Baldwin, Lockett, Graham and Procise flexed out and Vannett as an in line chip and roll target on first and 10.

    • vrtkolman says:

      Great point about Reed. He does have a very quick first step, and he’s a pretty good athlete to boot. There certainly could be some pass rush potential in there.

    • CHawk Talker Eric says:

      Joey Hunt is a C and that’s it. If he can’t beat out Lewis for the start he’s likely headed for the PS.

      • Dawgma says:

        And if we brought in 5 guys and not one of them can beat out Britt, maybe the worst OL starter in the league, it’s time to start seriously worrying about their inability to evaluate OL talent.

  26. Volume12 says:

    It doesn’t look like LB Montese Overton or EDGE David Perkins were signed by Seattle.

    I think they’re tryouts.

  27. Sea Mode says:

    Found this episode of Move the Sticks featuring Nick Vannett in case anyone wants to check it out.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFDWjpL-jgQ

  28. Kenny Sloth says:

    The subjects of this article were first to sign with your Seattle Seahawks

    According to Spotrac.com, Reed is projected to make a four-year deal around $4 million with $1.7 million signing bonus while Odhiambo will get a deal worth $3 million with a signing bonus north of $640,000.

    • vrtkolman says:

      This is why getting Reed in the 2nd round was such a huge steal. Even if he doesn’t develop his pass rush skills, you are paying $1 million per year for elite run defense. That’s under market rate, considering Mebane is making $4 million this year (I think?).

  29. David says:

    Who would have thought we could have snagged a top 20 talent anywhere in this draft (unless taking one with question marks, ie Jaylon Smith). Excited to see what Jarran Reed can do for us at the next level.

  30. James says:

    It is now-time for these players. All are facing intense competition, or have proven injury prone, and unless they step up they will have to step down:

    – Kevin Pierre-Louis
    – Jordan Hill
    – Justin Britt
    – Tharold Simon
    – Christine Michael
    – Mo Seisay
    – Cassius Marsh
    – Kristjan Sokoli
    – Erik Pinkins
    – Tye Smith
    – Terry Poole

    …make no mistake, Pete is a “nice guy” but his one commandment is Always Compete. You get one, at most two, years to develop into a starter or you lose your place on the bench for the next guy who is being developed into a winning contributor. Even Britt, a two-year starter, has Odhiambo and Glowinski ready to prove they will be the better player. John said last week that the reason several of these guys have yet to contribute is because the team was so deep. Well, after bringing aboard 20 new highly-regarded prospects this past weekend, they are going to find it deep both above and below them, so they have to become contributing and winning players right now.

    • H M Abdou says:

      I agree, but I think KPL, Marsh, Soko, and maybe Pinkins and Tye Smith are pretty safe. The rest: some are more out the door than others.