Next week I will publish my final mock draft for Huddle Report scoring.
Time for one final test-run.
As usual — list form below, then notes on each pick to follow…
First round
#1 Jacksonville — Trevor Lawrence (QB, Clemson)
#2 New York Jets — Zach Wilson (QB, BYU)
#3 San Francisco (v/MIA, HOU) — Mac Jones (QB, Alabama)
#4 Atlanta — Kyle Pitts (TE, Florida)
#5 Cincinnati — Ja’Marr Chase (WR, LSU)
#6 Miami (v/PHI) — Jaylen Waddle (WR, Alabama)
#7 Detroit — Penei Sewell (T, Oregon)
#8 Arizona (v/CAR) — Jaycee Horn (CB, South Carolina)
#9 Denver — Micah Parsons (LB, Penn State)
#10 Dallas — Patrick Surtain II (CB, Alabama)
#11 New York Giants — Rashawn Slater (G, Northwestern)
#12 Philadelphia (v/SF, MIA) — DeVonta Smith (WR, Alabama)
#13 LA Chargers — Christian Darrisaw (T, Virginia Tech)
#14 Minnesota — Jaelen Phillips (DE, Miami)
#15 New England — Justin Fields (QB, Ohio State)
#16 Washington (v/CAR, ARI) — Trey Lance (QB, North Dakota State)
#17 Las Vegas — Alijah Vera-Tucker (G, USC)
#18 Miami — Azeez Ojulari (DE, Georgia)
#19 Carolina (v/WAS) — Teven Jenkins (T, Oklahoma State)
#20 Chicago — Elijah Moore (WR, Ole Miss)
#21 Indianapolis — Kwity Paye (DE, Michigan)
#22 Tennessee — Zaven Collins (LB, Tulsa)
#23 New York Jets (v/SEA) — Kelvin Joseph (CB, Kentucky)
#24 Pittsburgh — Najee Harris (RB, Alabama)
#25 Jacksonville (v/LAR) — Travis Etienne (RB, Clemson)
#26 Cleveland — Christian Barmore (DT, Alabama)
#27 Baltimore — Jayson Oweh (DE, Penn State)
#28 New Orleans — Jamin Davis (LB, Kentucky)
#29 Green Bay — Greg Newsome (CB, Northwestern)
#30 Buffalo — Joe Tryon (DE, Washington)
#31 Miami (v/KC) — Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah (LB, Notre Dame)
#32 Tampa Bay — Levi Onwuzurike (DT, Washington)
Second round
#33 Jacksonville — Pat Freiermuth (TE, Penn State)
#34 New York Jets — Creed Humphrey (C, Oklahoma)
#35 Atlanta — Trevon Moehrig (S, TCU)
#36 Kansas City (v/MIA, HOU) — Spencer Brown (T, Northern Iowa)
#37 Philadelphia — Quinn Meinerz (G/C, UWW)
#38 Cincinnati — Alex Leatherwood (G/T, Alabama)
#39 Carolina — Kadarius Toney (WR, Florida)
#40 Denver — Kellen Mond (QB, Texas A&M)
#41 Detroit — Dyami Brown (WR, North Carolina)
#42 New York Giants — Javonte Williams (RB, North Carolina)
#43 San Francisco — Benjamin St. Juste (CB, Minnesota)
#44 Dallas — Milton Williams (DE/DT, LA Tech)
#45 Jacksonville (v/MIN) — Elijah Molden (S, Washington)
#46 New England — Baron Browning (LB, Ohio State)
#47 LA Chargers — Caleb Farley (CB, Virginia Tech)
#48 Las Vegas — Terrace Marshall Jr (WR, LSU)
#49 Carolina (v/ARI) — Robert Rochell (CB, Central Arkansas)
#50 Miami — Asante Samuel Jr (CB, Florida State)
#51 Washington — Pete Werner (LB, Ohio State)
#52 Chicago — Eric Stokes (CB, Georgia)
#53 Tennessee — Rashod Bateman (WR, Minnesota)
#54 Indianapolis — Sam Cosmi (T, Texas)
#55 Pittsburgh — Dillon Radunz (T, North Dakota State)
#56 Green Bay (v/SEA) — D’Wayne Eskridge (WR, Western Michigan)
#57 LA Rams — Landon Dickerson (C, Alabama)
#58 Baltimore — Josh Myers (C, Ohio State)
#59 Cleveland — Rondale Moore (WR, Purdue)
#60 New Orleans — Bobby Brown (DT, Texas A&M)
#61 Buffalo — Aaron Robinson (CB, UCF)
#62 Seattle (v/GB) — D’Ante Smith (T, ECU)
#63 Kansas City — Gregory Rousseau (DE, Miami)
#64 Tampa Bay — Davis Mills (QB, Stanford)
A thought on every pick…
First round
#1 Jacksonville — Trevor Lawrence (QB, Clemson)
It’s been a foregone conclusion for two years that Lawrence would be the #1 pick in this draft.
#2 New York Jets — Zach Wilson (QB, BYU)
A highly talented quarterback who will provide the Jets with in-structure competence and the occasional flash of brilliance.
#3 San Francisco (v/MIA, HOU) — Mac Jones (QB, Alabama)
Simply put, Kyle Shanahan wants someone who can execute his offense at a high level and stay on-script. The player most equipped to do that is Mac Jones.
#4 Atlanta — Kyle Pitts (TE, Florida)
Matt Ryan’s contract dictates he isn’t going anywhere for two years so you might as well give him Pitts to throw to.
#5 Cincinnati — Ja’Marr Chase (WR, LSU)
Joe Burrow dominated college football with Chase. You can get O-line help in round two.
#6 Miami (v/PHI) — Jaylen Waddle (WR, Alabama)
I still think this is a spot where Miami could surprise people and take a corner.
#7 Detroit — Penei Sewell (T, Oregon)
The Lions could trade down because they have a lot of needs but it also makes sense to stay put and select Sewell here.
#8 Arizona (v/CAR) — Jaycee Horn (CB, South Carolina)
There’s a bit of buzz around the Cardinals moving up. If they do, it could easily be for one of the top corners in the draft.
#9 Denver — Micah Parsons (LB, Penn State)
I’m just not convinced they’ll be sold on a quarterback here. They might trade down.
#10 Dallas — Patrick Surtain II (CB, Alabama)
Cornerback is a need and this is the trendy pick for Dallas.
#11 New York Giants — Rashawn Slater (G, Northwestern)
Dave Gettleman likes to draft linemen. I’m not completely sold on Slater here. I prefer others.
#12 Philadelphia (v/SF, MIA) — DeVonta Smith (WR, Alabama)
A lot of people are dismissing his lack of size but it will be a concern for some teams and it could lead to a slight fall.
#13 LA Chargers — Christian Darrisaw (T, Virginia Tech)
I’m not a huge fan of Darrisaw but they need someone capable of playing left tackle.
#14 Minnesota — Jaelen Phillips (DE, Miami)
Sensational pass rushing talent who deserves to go in the top-15 if he clears the health checks.
#15 New England — Justin Fields (QB, Ohio State)
The internet is very willing to overlook some of Fields’ obvious flaws. He has many positives too — but it’s not that unrealistic he lasts.
#16 Washington (v/CAR, ARI) — Trey Lance (QB, North Dakota State)
I think there’s a strong chance Fields and Lance both stick around long enough for Washington and Chicago to think about a move up.
#17 Las Vegas — Alijah Vera-Tucker (G, USC)
He is a class act. Explosive, consistent. Unflappable.
#18 Miami — Azeez Ojulari (DE, Georgia)
A fantastic player who could go higher.
#19 Carolina (v/WAS) — Teven Jenkins (T, Oklahoma State)
After trading down twice, Scott Fitterer takes an explosive, physical offensive lineman. For all the talk of the Panthers trading for Sam Darnold because the other QB’s won’t last to #8 — I don’t think that was it at all. The Darnold trade is a shot to nothing and they keep the door open for Deshaun Watson, if possible, next year. That’s what they want. Not a rookie.
#20 Chicago — Elijah Moore (WR, Ole Miss)
He’s just so dynamic, he has to go early.
#21 Indianapolis — Kwity Paye (DE, Michigan)
He has the physical profile but his tape is distinctly average.
#22 Tennessee — Zaven Collins (LB, Tulsa)
He’s 270lbs so he’ll need to go to a creative scheme. This feels like a good fit.
#23 New York Jets (v/SEA) — Kelvin Joseph (CB, Kentucky)
They might trade down first but a cornerback and a center could be options with New York’s second pick.
#24 Pittsburgh — Najee Harris (RB, Alabama)
It feels like the Steelers are readying to make this move.
#25 Jacksonville (v/LAR) — Travis Etienne (RB, Clemson)
If you want Trevor Lawrence to succeed — give him plenty of ammunition.
#26 Cleveland — Christian Barmore (DT, Alabama)
I don’t think Barmore is worth a pick this high. Yet a weak defensive tackle class could benefit him.
#27 Baltimore — Jayson Oweh (DE, Penn State)
They have lost their pass rushers and need to make a move.
#28 New Orleans — Jamin Davis (LB, Kentucky)
Highly explosive linebacker who can start quickly for New Orleans
#29 Green Bay — Greg Newsome (CB, Northwestern)
I’m not sold on him quite this early but there’s plenty of buzz around Newsome.
#30 Buffalo — Joe Tryon (DE, Washington)
Plenty of teams need pass rush so we could see a run in the late first.
#31 Miami (v/KC) — Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah (LB, Notre Dame)
I really like him but he’s 221lbs. He’s well suited as a hybrid safety/linebacker in Miami’s defense.
#32 Tampa Bay — Levi Onwuzurike (DT, Washington)
Why not add an interior pass rusher?
Second round
#33 Jacksonville — Pat Freiermuth (TE, Penn State)
They just appointed his college TE coach and this is even more help for Trevor Lawrence.
#34 New York Jets — Creed Humphrey (C, Oklahoma)
They like athletic, explosive offensive linemen. Humphrey ticks their boxes.
#35 Atlanta — Trevon Moehrig (S, TCU)
They need safety help after losing Keanu Neal.
#36 Kansas City (v/MIA, HOU) — Spencer Brown (T, Northern Iowa)
The Chiefs love to draft special athletes and coach them up. Brown needs a lot of work but he also feels like a fit.
#37 Philadelphia — Quinn Meinerz (G/C, UWW)
A nod to the future. Meinerz deserves to go this early.
#38 Cincinnati — Alex Leatherwood (G/T, Alabama)
This feels like a Bengals pick.
#39 Carolina — Kadarius Toney (WR, Florida)
Why not add another weapon to the offense?
#40 Denver — Kellen Mond (QB, Texas A&M)
For me he’s the third best quarterback in this draft.
#41 Detroit — Dyami Brown (WR, North Carolina)
Extremely talented downfield threat who would fill a huge need.
#42 New York Giants — Javonte Williams (RB, North Carolina)
The top pass rushers are gone. It’s not a need but the talent is too good to pass. He’d create quite a duo with Saquon Barkley.
#43 San Francisco — Benjamin St. Juste (CB, Minnesota)
St. Juste is highly intelligent, physically impressive and he’s their type of player.
#44 Dallas — Milton Williams (DE/DT, LA Tech)
Incredible athlete who can move across the D-line.
#45 Jacksonville (v/MIN) — Elijah Molden (S, Washington)
Nobody gets after it like Molden. He could be the next Tyrann Mathieu.
#46 New England — Baron Browning (LB, Ohio State)
Browning would be a good fit in their scheme.
#47 LA Chargers — Caleb Farley (CB, Virginia Tech)
The injury has to be a turn-off for teams, especially given how long it’s taken him to get it sorted.
#48 Las Vegas — Terrace Marshall Jr (WR, LSU)
Not the biggest need but the top pass rushers are gone.
#49 Carolina (v/ARI) Robert Rochell (CB, Central Arkansas)
The Panthers get this pick for trading down from #8 to #16. Rochell has everything physically and just needs some technical fine tuning.
#50 Miami — Asante Samuel Jr (CB, Florida State)
According to reports, the Dolphins want to draft another cornerback early.
#51 Washington — Pete Werner (LB, Ohio State)
Werner’s always around the ball and he had a terrific pro-day workout.
#52 Chicago — Eric Stokes (CB, Georgia)
A very consistent, talented corner to fill a big need for the Bears.
#53 Tennessee — Rashod Bateman (WR, Minnesota)
Is he special enough to go earlier than this? I don’t think so.
#54 Indianapolis — Sam Cosmi (T, Texas)
The Colts love traits and Cosmi is highly explosive.
#55 Pittsburgh — Dillon Radunz (T, North Dakota State)
Radunz might be best suited to guard but he has a Steeler mentality and might get a shot to play left tackle.
#56 Green Bay (v/SEA) — D’Wayne Eskridge (WR, Western Michigan)
The Packers trade up to get ahead of New Orleans and select a player with game-breaking ability.
#57 LA Rams — Landon Dickerson (C, Alabama)
He’s a first round pick without the injury history — but that is clearly a big concern.
#58 Baltimore — Josh Myers (C, Ohio State)
I think he could still go in the top-50.
#59 Cleveland — Rondale Moore (WR, Purdue)
Is he more than a gadget player operating mostly from the slot?
#60 New Orleans — Bobby Brown (DT, Texas A&M)
There aren’t many players with a physical profile as impressive as Brown’s.
#61 Buffalo — Aaron Robinson (CB, UCF)
An incredibly quick, sudden corner who flies to the ball.
#62 Seattle (v/GB) — D’Ante Smith (T, ECU)
The Seahawks love length at tackle and Smith has +35 inch arms. He excelled at the Senior Bowl. I think this draft, such as it is for Seattle, will be about forward planning.
#63 Kansas City — Gregory Rousseau (DE, Miami)
His agility testing and length is intriguing but he has so much to learn.
#64 Tampa Bay — Davis Mills (QB, Stanford)
Why not plan ahead here?
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Grabbing a tackle of the future would not disappoint me at all, especially if he could be groomed as the future left tackle.
I’m still wondering what the odds are of the hawks moving a veteran player either before or during the draft for more picks, if you had to bet Rob what percentage likelihood would you say that happens? Either with Rus, Jamal, Bobby or someone else?
Probably 0% at this stage. There’s no smoke there
Agreed on the the OT point. I would actually feel pretty good about the off season (considering the lack of draft capital) if they can do something about the massive glaring holes on both sides of the line next season.
Tackle spot will be interesting. They can resign Shell if they want to on the right side but does Brown want to keep playing after this year? Im betting this conversation has already taken place. If not tackle becomes huge, if he does you probably see an extension later on this year.
It’s not just whether he wants to carry on playing. He’s out of contract. The Seahawks don’t just get to automatically keep him.
You really think he would want to go to another team at age 36? I highly doubt it.
Andrew Whitworth literally did that, so yes.
I am also 36. When you are 36 you are not 96.
It’s perfectly plausible if he continues his career it could be somewhere else.
True. He’s a guy I would seriously consider franchising despite the monstrous cap hit. I’ve seen this offense without a left tackle and it’s not pretty.
Rob, did you see Breer’s tidbits on some players sliding? Jenkins was one of them:
I had read about the character, not about the injuries. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks Rob.
Boy if Carolina has their heart set on Watson this would help them load up on ammo.
You’ve gotta figure besides #49 they get an additional 3rd or 4th round pick, and another 3rd from WFT for dropping from 16 to 19.
I would hate the Rams getting Dickerson, so they can kick our butts on both sides of the trenches… 😢
Just watched his Senior Bowl reps again. Hadn’t noticed how good his feet are. Wow.
D’Ante Smith College Highlight Film Reel/Senior Bowl Highlights
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27frtRLmxpo&ab_channel=AdinKScouting
Knowing he could fill in at Guard were there any injury is also a nice bonus.
Rams already own us on both sides of the line. Wild Card game proved that.
Also listened to a Jim Nagy interview today where he said he doesn’t think Divine Deablo gets out of the top 50. #2 safety on some boards.
And he also thinks Michael Carter probably goes in R2, maybe slides into R3.
Talks ACC guys:
Amari Rodgers
Cornell Powell
Boogie Basham
Divine Diablo
Michael Carter
Hunter Long
Chaz Surratt
Sage Surratt
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/gramlich-and-mac-lain/id1534506852?i=1000518014070
Who are the other “forgotten” guys like Shaun Wade? The ones who were considered possible R1 picks last year but then didn’t play much or at all this year. Could be due to an injury, COVID, poor talent around them, or even a position/scheme/coaching change that led them to underperform.
I just remember Seattle picking Brooks and Parkinson especially based on their previous year of tape and trying to find value that way. Could apply even more so this year.
Greg Rousseau I think is another tremendous physical talent but really raw and opted out this year. Last year I though he might be a top 20 pick this year and now he seems like a forgotten guy,
Well, he may have been forgotten until Rapoport’s tweet yesterday and the responses from his agent and Calais Campbell!
To answer your question from earlier. I like Michael Carter, big fan of Darden, but round 2? Dont know if I would do that. A guy like Chris Evans is probably sitting there in UDFA.
Rosseau would b my answer as well. But I do think your onto something here.
And here I was expecting to pick through the comments from the last post one more time. This mock is a welcome surprise.
I agree both New England Washington are looking for a QB and I wonder if Washington doesn’t trade up ahead of the Patriots to get Lance. I can totally see NE taking Fields because of the similarity in play to Newton. But (for me) Lance is the better prospect and you just never know. Unless Washington is ok with either.
I can’t think of a better team to draft Jayson Oweh than the Ravens. It may take him a season or two to put it all together, but I think he’s going to be special. Especially in that defense.
The best pick in this mock is Kellen Mond to Denver at 40. The Broncos’ OC Pat Shurmur is an Andy Reid guy going back to the Eagles (I think he was Reid’s QB coach), and even though Mond isn’t Mahomes, they aren’t dissimilar prospects. And Reid is a big part of Mahomes’ success. If Denver actually do take Mond at 40, it could prove to be the pick of this draft.
And once again I’m reminded how off pfn can be in some of their prospect rankings. Speaking of which, do you use their simulator for all your mocks now because it’s just so well done?
No, I just write them out
John Schneider trading down and selecting D’Ante Smith, OT, ECU works for me. This is a perfect example of why John Schneider is going to do everything he can to trade down. Schneider trades down and take Smith. Smith good value. BTW: After hearing about Justin Fields situation. Highly likely he will drop. The question is. How far will he fall.
I’d have no problem with a tackle. I like forward thinking (which they sadly seem to lack the last number of years now).
My best guess is they’re going to take a Center or WR with their first pick. I’d include DT because I think that’s a big need (I thought DT depth was already a need before they released Reed) but I don’t think draft value will allow it.
If they didn’t draft a DT a year ago, I can’t see them drafting one this year. Especially given the class + the Al Woods signing.
Which is a shame because I really like Bobby Brown and one or two others
If it happens I think we’re talking round 6-7 and it’s an upside pick
I never liked Bobby Brown because of the way he treated Whitney Houston;)
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He’s here all week folks!
Nice looking draft for franchise QBs (Jacksonville and Cincinnati).
Definitely agreeing on that run on edge defenders in the 20s, a LOT of edge players are going in the 20s, mainly because its a pretty atrocious edge class. Tryon, Oweh will absolutely go in the late first, a name that I think will go in the late first is Carlos Basham, I think he goes to Tampa Bay, he is one of the only DEs I think can reduce and give pressure at the 3 tech, and I think he’d be exciting to watch in that system and eventually replace Justin Tuck.
So Rob, you’re saying Devonta Smith is a competitive Rock-Paper-Scissors player?
https://twitter.com/MySportsUpdate/status/1384901196348067844
Lol!
I know 2022 is looking a bit bleak in terms of forward thinking…
How would you (Rob and/or community) rate the team compared to the team PC/JS took over when first hired? They were able to go 7-9 and win a play off game… not too dissimilar from what they’ve been doing!
They currently have a franchise QB in his prime. That’s a winning lottery ticket. Advantage 2021.
They had forward thinking in the early days. Advantage 2010. For the most part, they acquired draft picks instead of throw them away like they do now.
They were lucky enough for Ruskell to have given them a high pick (#6) and another one (#14). They had quality draft picks unlike anything we can relate to today.
This team has a budding superstar at a skill position (DK) and that team had a young superstar in Beast Mode. The biggest difference is there was plenty of draft picks in those early years. They built their team up with quantity draft picks, which led to better odds of quality ones. This team has a pathetic “collection” of draft picks today and tomorrow. They have one singular pick in the top 130 picks in this draft. That’s irresponsible and unforgivable. That’s not the way to build your team properly.
Although the QB is different today, the GM and head coach are way worse. Even though they’re the same people – they used to have long-term thinking that put the franchise in a position to build properly, whereas today they forgot their roots and how they got to be so good in the first place. They only care about band-aids today.
“They have one singular pick in the top 130 picks in this draft. That’s irresponsible and unforgivable. That’s not the way to build your team properly.”
If there was any mathematical way for me to agree with this more than 100% I would.
If they picked in the top 6 then I would be okay, but the only pick being 56 is ridiculous.
I spent about 30 seconds skimming a 7-round draft recently. Not because I cared who they had projected where, but apparently because I like to torture myself by looking at all the picks Seattle doesn’t have. I swear every round felt like ‘seahawks…(skims down the list of teams)…nope.’. Round 7: ‘Ah, here we are!’. So depressing.
Out of curiosity Rob, I keep seeing Jabril Cox on other people’s draft boards, but I can’t remember you writing about him. Were you not impressed with his tape/measurables?
To be honest I haven’t studied him enough to truly offer an assessment. He’s one of 5-6 more I need to watch before next Thursday.
Cheers mate, hope you have a nice long vacation planned after next week!
What do you think of Belicheck taking Mond at #15? I have noticed many mock Fields to New England
What if he just goes full Bill Belichick and takes Zaven Collins? He loves him some LBs w/ size that can run.
OTC has recently changed Witherspoons contract to have a void year. Lowers his cap hit from $4m to $2.75m
Oof a trade down that loses us Eskridge, Dickerson, Myers and Brown would be painful to witness.
And Rondale Moore
Well that sounds pretty much like real life then.
Interesting picks, Rob. I wonder if D’Ante Smith will still be around if we trade down again in the late 70s.
I think those who will pass on Smith will soon be in the same spot as those who passed on DK.
Love the mock, great work! It’s always interesting to see if the actual draft plays out the way we think it will, but you can always guarantee a few teams will throw some curve balls in there (the Seahawks are usually one of those teams)!
I did notice you don’t have the Bears selecting a QB in either round, or making a big trade up for one. After trying so hard to get RW from the Hawks, do you really think they stand pat with Andy Dalton and Nick Foles? It’s hard to imagine either of these guys performs well enough for the coach and GM to keep their jobs!
Or perhaps they make another run at trading for RW? Obviously they would need to improve on their original offer!
Rob – if both D’Ante Smith and Landon Dickerson are still there when the Hawks are picking, which one would you rather have?
Depends on your medical grade on Dickerson
Rob,
Would love your thoughts on Tyler Shelvin to replace Jarren Reed. Al Woods is 34 and could be a draft hedge (much like Ethan Pocic at center).
Great stuff as always!
Shelvin’s just a two-down run stuffer for me. Very different to Reed
As a UW fan, occasionally I’m miffed by the draft projections of certain players. Last year it was Hunter Bryant. This year it’s Joe Tryon. I’m biased towards my Dawg players. I think Levi is solid, though I don’t see him as a first rounder. Molden I love. He’s such an aggressive baller who loves the game with passion and dedication.
Tryon? He didn’t show that much at UW. This is almost totally a “spec/projection pick” to me. I guess people iike his size, the very few times he showed some brilliance at UW, etc… I like Tryon, but geez. First rounder?
Would anyone be interested in a reunion with Sheldon Richardson… might help replace Reed. I don’t know how well he played last year though.
I’m on board, but only for the right price! I think they may be able to find someone younger, hungrier, and cheaper!
If the price is right, absolutely.
If there is any thought of trading Adams, Richardson would be my very first call to use some of that $9.86m freed up.
The inside DL position is an area of need still.
The Seahawks had 2002 snaps at ‘pure inside’ last year (independent of Collier, Moore, etc sliding inside on passing downs)
Reed 848
Poona 671
Mone 228
Snacks 138
Bullard 117
Let’s assume the defense improves a bit in 2021 so they won’t be on the field as much, and so the increase from 16 to 17 games doesn’t increase the snaps.
Currently they have (with their career highs in snaps)
Poona 671
Mone 228
Woods 564 (in 2017, his age 30 season)
Lattimore 0 regular season snaps
That’s 1463 snaps. Woods won’t touch his career high, but let’s assume Mone and Lattimore can increase to fill the shortfall so let’s call that a push.
You can stretch Poona out a bit, but do you want to increase his workload AND expect more production from him at the same time? That’s a tall order.
So they need about 500 snaps from someone else.
Collier had 560 last year, so the easy answer is slide him in full time.
But that’s just a pure snaps discussion. Quality of snaps is a whole other discussion.
I cannot see Al Woods providing anything other than run support. Mone, anything other than run support is a bonus.
So that means the pass rush duties fall on Poona and Collier. My confidence level isn’t very high that they can come close to replacing Reed there. I’d love to be proven wrong though.
I wonder if bridges have been burned there
The front office seems way too good at that…
Maybe? I thought he left just because we got out bid by Minnesota
Little story for you all.
I won’t mention any names but I approached a draft prospect recently about doing an interview. He’s had some troubling character issues in the past so I thought he’d be an interesting person to talk to.
He was up for it but passed me on to his agent. She was very positive, actively worked to set things up. Very helpful.
Then she asked me to send her all the questions I wanted to ask.
I obliged — and explained why I would be asking certain things. Funnily enough, I got a response apologising because the player has now decided ‘to focus on the draft’ and ‘not do any extra media’.
I think it’s funny really. If you have issues that will put off fans and will put off some (if not all) teams — I think you should be prepared to front up. You’re not just trying to sell yourself to teams. You have fans to sell yourself to, too.
Running and hiding from your past doesn’t help.
You can’t manage the media, dictate the narrative.
It’s become fairly common knowledge in politics that it’s best to get out in front of a scandalous story/allegation. Get the story out there for all to see and exert some control over the narrative. When you don’t, it’s Chinese water torture…the steady drip, drip, drip of speculation, more bits and pieces of the story coming out, the “what is this person still hiding”, etc…. You lose control of the narrative.
Gary Hart agrees with your post.
At this point, what exactly does “focusing on the draft” even mean?
It means ‘we don’t want you asking anything that isn’t flowers and kittens’
Why though? I’ve seen a whole lot of your draft interviews and you are not the guy to needle a player or to pick on his problems. If anything, you give him the chance to explain himself and to improve on his image. I don’t know who advised this agent but it’s been a terrible PR move. If I were Aldon Smith I’d call you for an interview from my jail cell…
He’s out on bond. No one with money actually goes to jail, pre-trial, unless they are ruled possibly violent or a flight risk. Also, there’s no way Aldon goes into any interview, until the finer details of what happened are exposed to the general public. Otherwise, especially in the case of Aldon, one slip of the tongue is amunition for the prosecution. The first thing a lawyer tells a suspect is “Talk ONLY to me.”
San Francisco just signed Arden Key. Only had one sack last year, but I have a sick feeling they’ll turn him into a dangerous part of their rotation as they did with Hyder.
They signed Wayne Gallman as well, a guy I liked for depth at running back for Seattle.
Nicely done Rob- I think Parsons to Denver is spot on. Arizona trading up to jump Dallas for Horn is juicy.
I’ve been trying to mentally prepare myself for another Seahawk draft, these are the things I keep thinking about based on recent draft history:
– I expect a trade down (duh), but finding the right dance partner is easier said than done. I’m prepared to be disappointed by the return.
– I’m prepared to watch the Hawks miss on some of my favorite players via said trade down.
– I’m prepared for their first pick to be a player that everyone expected to be available at least 1 round later.
– I’m prepared for them to draft a LB with the first pick – just kidding, I’d lose my mind, but I am prepared for them to not draft an obvious position of need.
– I’m prepared for the draft class to be 100% comprised of guys that likely won’t see much of the field this year unless on ST.
Taking a tackle round 2 is smart.
That being said, the Fo has been in win now mode for a long time. That’s why we have three draft picks. Have to think the first pick is going to be someone they see contributing right away. Corner, wide receiver, with the sleeper choice being d tackle (they’ve taken McDowell, Reed round 2). But most likely corner or wide receiver where we are lacking. Obviously we need a developmental tackle I just don’t think they’ll prioritize that first. Ideally we make one draft day trade (green or Collier?).
Guys: Just curious if anyone heard Carson Palmer’s comments. Palmer said that Russell Wilson better be carefull about leaving the Seahawk for greener pastures. Carson said that the Seahawk organization is one of the most fantastic organizations in ALL of sports(Not just Profootball). He said that those pastures might be green because they are full of manure. Leaving Seattle for a second rate organization doesn’t make much sense to Palmer.
I think Palmer knows what he is talking about. He played for teams like the Bengals, Raiders and Arizona Cardinals. BTW: Guess who was Carson Palmer’s head coach at U.S.C.?
Well, he doesn’t automatically go to a bad organisation if he leaves Seattle
Draft hypothetical:
If, after trading down from 56, both Ben Cleveland and Kendrick Green are available to the Seahawks, which would you prefer – drafting Cleveland and slide Damien Lewis to center, or drafting Green and leave Lewis at RG?
Depends who else is there. I pefer D’Ante Smith over those two. Was happy to see him picked up in mock draft.
If I only have a choice between Green and Cleveland. I’ll take Green and put him at Center, but would be a very difficult choice.
I would be happy with any of the 3 to be honest.
I’m not necessarily opposed to drafting a future OT but the only way a D’Ante Smith contributes this season is if Shell or Brown get injured enough to miss significant time. In which case the season is probably lost anyway (especially if it’s Brown).
An interior OL fills an immediate significant need and would probably contribute to an extent similar to Lewis last season. That’s good mileage for your draft pick in a year when you essentially have only 2 (plus a UDFA priority signing at 250).
I’m not sure why you’re pinning any hopes on 2021 impact from this draft, with the Seahawks unlikely to pick until round three.
Force of habit. And the triumph of hope over experience.
Please don’t change position just fix one problem and create another. Lewis is one of the bright spot in last 5 years don’t disturb it.
Shouldn’t a replacement for KJ Wright be projected as our #1 need? We have starters for every other position on the roster.
Sure I think our first pick screams for O line with how the draft will play out. But, I see depth and draft hedges at every position.
Rob – who do you see as possible replacements for KJ in this draft?
Who are your starters at outside corner? Who’s going to be your starting C? Who’s going to be your starting RT, and LT next year? What about #3 WR? A starting SAM LB is not our biggest need, especially since they’ll be off the field in nickel situations, which is probably >50% of the snaps.
Look at it this way. Brooks is KJs replacement at Will. We need to replace Brooks snaps from last year.
Starting C is Pocic. Starting CBs are Reed and Witherspoon (and now Desir). #3 WR is Swain (and could later be Antonio Brown). But, same logic, how many snaps will #3 WR take if we roll with 12 Personnel? Would you rather replace David Moore or KJ Wright?
I see Jabril Cox giving us better coverage and scheme versatility as a Day 1 starter. I see a #3 WR Hawks pick being another journeyman project.
I see drafting a future LT as a wasted pick. We have real needs THIS year and there’s no way I see Seattle rolling with an unproven LT starting for his first year in 2022. We’ve always spent money on the LT and will address that need in FA or through a trade after Brown hangs it up.
They aren’t spending another high pick at LB
Pocic is a draft hedge. Witherspoon was benched in SF and Desir, although I like him, I would not include either him or Witherspoon as a day 1 starter, depth.
With all the the drama with RW, most pressing need is to solidify the OL and get him another weapon.
A rookie isnt starting at corner. I mean, theres always outliers, but doubtful a rookie corner makes an impact on this team before weeks 10-12.
Gonna b really tough for a rookie C w/ no OTAs or anything to beat out a guy like Pocic. Especially at C.
An OT probably doesn’t see the field this year, unless theres injuries.
All of this is fine if Seattke wants to… not punt on this draft, but draft a year ahead or a year out.
If Seattle wants immediate impact, WR & a SAM are going to see the field quicker and have more of a chance to contribute off rip. Maybe even a DT, but I dont see a ton of fits there for Seattle.
Darius Stills is a guy who I think goes earlier than he’s being projected and kinda screams Seahawk at me, but does he have the length & size they like?
He is going to resign here.
Nice mock. The only two picks in the first round pick that I can’t see are Jacksonville taking Etienne at #25 with last seasons rookie Robinson having the best production of any rookie RB last year and their needs on both the O-line and D-line. With Lindor’s injury last year I could definitely see them going for Humphrey/Meinerz. They could use help at RT as well where Leatherwood or Brown would make sense. The D line class is fairly weak, just don’t see a ton of value using #25 there.
I have seen Joe Tryon mocked in the first from a few sites. I just don’t get it, I am a huge UW fan and while he looks the part, the production has never been there. He is frequently overmatched by athletic linemen and relies too much on his initial burst and lacks technique. I honestly think a day 2 pick is a stretch, but like I mentioned before this years d-line class isn’t the best and that will work to Tryon’s advantage.
The Jags are being heavily connected to Etienne.
Meyer had already hailed his interior line
Their guards are solid, but Linder has missed 14 games over the last 3 years and contract is up in 22. They will need to make sure Sunshine is protected. I really like Etienne, but it would seem like a luxury pick to me when they have serious needs elsewhere.
I’m just relaying what’s been reported. There’s plenty of noise that they want to add Etienne, load up the backfield and deliver some talent/familiarity to support TL.
Every mock draft I see for the hawks is quite depressing.
We sure the Cards dont go offense? They’re slow af. Overpaid for AJ Green too.
They might do, yes. But it’s also perfectly plausible they go corner. Because they might be slow at WR but look at their CB depth chart.
I’m curious about EDGE-Payton Turner who you have on your big board (and interviewed) as a late 2-nd round pick. I noticed he isn’t in your 2 round mock and then there is this: “”He’s the only edge in the class who boasts run-defense and pass-rushing grades over 90.0. He racked up 31 pressures in his final five games this season after knocking off the rust””. – Per PFF. Seems like a pretty balanced player for both run & pass. Averaging 6+ pressures a game in 2020 is pretty decent. I’d assume you now feel he’s an early 3-rd rounder? Any possibility the Seahawks consider him at #56 with the idea that you never have enough pass rushers? Considering everyone wants a WR-3/CB/OL as the first pick, the Seahawks still march to their own drummer, again, & will most likely shock us all, again.
Also: Has anyone looked closely at or know anything about:
S-Tyler Coyle, Purdue/UConn, Height: 6’1″ (66th percentile) Weight: 209 (70th) Arm: 32 3/8 (78th) Vertical: 39″ (85th) Broad: 133″ (96th) Bench: 24 reps (97th) 40-yard: *4.36* (97th) Short shuttle: 4.00 (93rd) 3-cone: 7.14 (18th) Career 274-tkls, 172-solo, 7.5-TFL, 3-INT-(2-TD’s), 16-PBU, 2-FF, 2-FR. = Currently Ranked as a Day-3/UDFA = Possibly a sleeper Safety with some nice #’s in testing and fairly decent stats for a Safety, seems like he ticks a lot of Seahawk JS/PC’s boxes? Maybe if Adams is traded -during- the draft?
They’re always hard to predict. Even moreso this year.
I think how the board breaks always plays a determining factor. Again though, even moreso this year.
Any opinion on Caden Sterns as a possible outside corner target?
Definitely has the body type and outstanding athleticism. Has he played corner at all or only safety?
Only safety