A look at the Seahawks’ 2013 draft visit list (part IV)

April 24th, 2013 | Written by Kip Earlywine

Isaac Remington: putting the "awww" in awkward.

Continued from parts I II and III

Michael Brooks, DT, East Carolina

6’2⅜”, 294 pounds.  5.01 in the forty.  No video on youtube.  Classic 3-tech measurables.  Likely to be undrafted.

Ryan Robertson, QB, Central Washington

6’2⅜”, 202 pound quarterback.  No video on youtube.  Likely to be undrafted.  You can read his bio page here, which for some reason mentions that he has an older sister, and lists her name and age.

Justin Veltung, WR, Idaho

5’11”, 182 pound receiver.  A highly impressive athlete:  4.46 in the forty with a 42.5″ vertical jump.  His 20 yard shuttle, 3-cone, and broad jump numbers would be in elite company at the NFL combine.  His speed is on the good side of average- comparable to Doug Baldwin.  I really like him as a “moves” runner.

Zac Dysert, QB, Miami-Ohio

I see a lot of John Skelton in Zac Dysert.  I’m not a fan.  That said, I’d be supportive of the pick because Dysert will enter the NFL as a “cool to like” prospect.  Reputation is the driving force behind market value.  If Seattle makes Dysert look good, a lot of teams will remember how much they liked Dysert’s arm talent coming out of college and think Seattle proved him to be the real deal.  It would make trading Dysert at a profit easier.  It’s a similar situation to Nick Foles in Philly, so drafting Dysert as a future trade hopeful makes a degree of sense, even if I personally don’t think much of him.  Then again, I didn’t think much of Foles, either.

I do think Dysert fits our system as the Seahawks highly value mobility plus arm talent, and Dysert’s combination of those traits is very good, particularly on the arm talent side.

Anthony Watkins, SS, Oregon State

6’1½”, 213.  No official forty, but his estimated time isn’t very good.  Pure in the box safety.  Probably won’t be drafted.

His youtube video was created and posted on youtube by BW video productions, a company that has rendered just one other service for an NFL hopeful:  Justin Veltung.  The same guy from 60 seconds ago.  Weird.

Greg Herd, WR, Eastern Washington

The onslaught of local football players continues.  Why do NFL teams still track local guys an inordinate amount?  If I’m ever so fortunate as to interview John Schneider I must ask him this question, because you’d assume that scouting departments wouldn’t care as much about proximity these days.  Maybe it’s because undrafted free agents might prefer to stay closer to home?  Jermaine Kearse, Lavasier Tuinei, and Jeron Johnson fit in with that theory.

Anyway, Herd:  6’3″, 202, 4.53 forty at his pro-day.

Given his talent, size, and athleticism, it’s interesting that Herd wasn’t able to elicit a scholarship offer from Washington State.  He wound up being the number one receiver of one of the FCS’s (aka Division Ia) best teams the last few years.  I still wish the Seahawks had given his former quarterback, Bo Levi Mitchell, a tryout.  Getting his top receiver in for a close look is a nice rebound.

Semisi Tokolahi, DT, Washington

I’m a Huskies fan, and I have no idea who Semisi Tokolahi is.  There was a time aeons ago when I was more a Huskies fan than a Seahawks fan.  Now I’m hearing a Huskies’ players name for the first time while writing about him on a site called Seahawks Draft Blog.

This list of names gets better, I promise.

After looking him up, he’s a 341 pound run stuffer.  Maybe I’m reading too much into things, but if Seattle thinks Tokolahi is even worth considering, then you’d have to think they’d have a good deal of interest in Brandon Williams or Montori Hughes.

Random Note: My spell-checker thinks Tokolahi’s name should be “Ayatollah.”  Colin Pumpernickel (49ers) had better watch his ass.

Justin Glenn, SS, Washington

Though Washington’s defense has been much maligned up until the 2012 season, it’s had some very impressive talent in the secondary.  Though I think Desmond Trufant is slightly over-rated on draft sites, he has a real chance to be a 1st round pick and Shaq Thompson is a probable future high pick himself (though it’s not clear if he will stick at safety or linebacker, as he can play both).  Sean Parker is not highly touted but is one of Washington’s best defenders.  Justin Glenn is a great player himself, but was limited by injuries and stiff competition.

Of all the players in this entire series, Glenn strikes me as the most likely to be a future UDFA for Seattle.  It would take a local team to know the quality of Glenn’s play (don’t forget the Sarkisian/Carroll connection, either).  His measurables don’t jump out at you- he’s just 5’10, 210, and ran a 4.59 forty.  That said, when you put on the tape, you see a very complete football player.  Jeron Johnson would be a pretty good comparison.  Huskies fans that follow the team closer than I do were constantly singing Glenn’s praises and counting down the days when he’d return from injury.

Isaac Remington, DT, Oregon

Remington (6’6″, 298) has a build much like new addition Tony McDaniel (6’6″, 305).  Remington is pretty unique.  It’s not every day you see a defensive lineman with a pro-day forty time in the 5.3s (while weighing under 300 pounds) getting phone calls from NFL teams.  I’m curious to know how Seattle views Remington.  3-tech?  Run stuffer that needs to add weight?  Red Bryant role?

Cooper Taylor, SS, Richmond

You might remember that over the past few months I’ve linked a couple of my mock drafts from Seahawks.net here.  Cooper Taylor is a player I’ve been on in the late rounds forever, and I’ve included him in nearly every one of my mocks to date. The video above is probably the most impressive highlight I’ve ever seen that was recorded by a potato.  Or maybe it was a lime?

Standing just a quarter inch under 6’5″, Taylor ran a 4.49 forty at his pro day while weighing in at 228 pounds.  Incredible.  He’d only need to add a few pounds to play linebacker in the NFL, and if he did, he’d be one of the fastest linebackers in the league.  He hits like a linebacker on tape, too.  If he stayed at safety, he’d be one of the biggest strong safeties in the league and not many of his big safety contemporaries would run a 4.49.  He’s Taylor Mays physically, but he might not be Taylor Mays mentally.  If you catch my drift.

Possessing remarkable tools and size for the safety position, Cooper Taylor offers incredible scheme versatility to a team like Seattle that blurs the line between their big defensive backs and fast linebackers.  At a minimum Taylor would likely be an excellent special teams contributor, but it’s hard to read Taylor’s measurables and watch him explode into tackles in his highlight reel and not be left coveting his services.

Fun fact:  The Richmond Spiders football program has one very famous NFL graduate- who also played defensive back.  He goes by the name Todd McShay.

Who picks “spiders” as their school mascot anyway?

Christine Michael, RB, Texas A&M

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCVqxFeWFoU

I’ve only taken the time to write about one running back this draft season, and that was Christine Michael almost exactly one month ago.  I’m not saying Michael deserves to be the first running back drafted, but he’s my favorite this year and I really like his value in the 50-100 range.

He’s not without red flags, but his athletic talent is off-the-charts impressive.  His height, weight, speed, college tape, and even some of his problems are extremely similar to former 3rd round pick Ahman Green.  To say the least, I was more than a little happy to see Michael’s exuberant twitter extravaganza regarding his (until then) secret trip to the VMAC.  You think Seattle had hoped to keep that visit on the down low?  I think they did.

30 Responses to “A look at the Seahawks’ 2013 draft visit list (part IV)”

  1. Scott Allen says:

    Kip.

    That four part expounded list was a beautiful thing. Thank you.

  2. Stuart says:

    Nice wake up, thanks Kip.

  3. Cole says:

    Great work on these lists. Pretty cool to see exactly who they’re bringing in especially coupled with some info that most of us wouldn’t know otherwise. Thanks for your work. And I’m still laughing about the line “Colin Pumpernickel ha better watch his ass.”

  4. woofu says:

    Guy ran in the 4.3’s and an on off 4.19, sooooooooo he’s got thatgoing for him.

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    • Kip Earlywine says:

      I really like Sinkfield even if his game is unrefined. I’d rather draft Sinkfield than Denard Robinson (as a WR). Glad to see Seattle has interest.

  5. Jeff M. says:

    If I’m not mistaken, NFL teams are allowed to host unlimited local players without counting against their pre-draft visits, which explains why there are so many NW-based likely UDFAs on the visit list.

  6. James says:

    The Seahawks need to be hosting as many potential UDFAs as possible, because they need them to fall in love with the VMAC. With ten draft choices, and reasonably only about 5 spots up for grabs on the 53 man roster, an UDFA is going to face really long odds to make the team, unlike in years past. Agents are going to try to steer them to greener pastures, so we need them to fall in love with this place.

  7. D says:

    Informative and hilarious. Well done on the series man!

  8. Train says:

    Whoa Veltung! 6th receiver/punt returner. Makes people miss and has serious burst to go along with excellent straight line speed. Looks like they did everything they could to get the ball in his hands. Made Fresno State KO team look like they were standing still.

    Thanks Kip!

  9. Elijah says:

    Anthony Watkins is definitely a guy to keep your eyes on. He had a really strong junior year but was unfortunately injured for most of his senior year.

  10. Brian says:

    “Why do NFL teams still track local guys an inordinate amount?”

    I’m guessing it’s simply a travel issue. Anyone living in Washington state is going to be willing to drive to Seattle to be interviewed by the Seahawks. If you live in New Hampshire it’s a 6 hour flight or an 8 hour flight from Miami. And IIRC the player has to pay travel expenses.

  11. Kenny Sloth says:

    I liked Veltung’s burst and fight. He plays bigger than himself. I didn’t like Watkins’ tape at all. He was slow reacting and slow physically. He also didn’t hit hard. Wish there was more on Cooper Taylor he’s intriguing.

  12. Brian says:

    On Veltung: I question why he wasn’t used more as a receiver. How does a guy that athletic on the Idaho Vandals only get 16 receptions on the year and 64 in his collegiate career? Either the coaching staff is incompetent or Veltung just doesn’t have the requisite football IQ and route-running ability to make it as a WR.

    • Kenny Sloth says:

      Well, his route tree is not. Very leafy.

    • Colin says:

      Brian, as a current Vandal I can tell you a couple of reasons for his low numbers.
      1.) Horrendous QB play. Some of the worst qbing in Division 1 football.
      2.) Terrible staff. They never had an offensive identity and although he was one of their few playmakers, there was never an emphasis to get him the ball.

  13. Carl says:

    Re: Tokolahi

    Alameda Ta’amu usually had his best games when he was lined up next to Tokolahi.

    Tokolahi, when healthy, is a HUGE space eater who usually stands his ground.

  14. Fletcher says:

    Cooper Taylor strikes me as an ideal backup for Chancellor

  15. Kyle says:

    Saw Veltung play several times in HS at puyallup. Was shocked WSU never offered. Dude is electric with the ball in his hands. Threat to house it any time he touched it. Surprised his 40 wasn’t better. I would have pegged him in the low 4.3’s based on live viewing

  16. Madmark says:

    Seattle signs another QB for competition in camp this year. Jerod Johnson is a former TAMU QB that went undrafted in 2011. He been brought in by Eagles and Steelers but each time he was let go before the season started and each time he went to the UFL league and played. He’s 6’5″ 251lbs. with the approach I’m seeing I think B.J. Daniels will probably be a UDFA, just a guess.

  17. Dan says:

    Been really busy lately so I haven’t been able to check the blog.
    I might have already missed the analysis, but how does the Chancellor extension seem to your eyes? Good deal? Bad deal? And how’s the cap situation looking after this?? Seems like we’re getting dangerously close to being overcapped.

  18. Scott Allen says:

    So what do you think about the Jerrod Johnson pick up?

    Do you think that its no longer likely the Hawks will pick up a QB in the draft?

    They already have 4 on roster. Could they/would they add a 5th?

    • Madmark says:

      I think if he’s willing B.J. Daniels would come in UDFA to compete but its hard to say. I’m just trying to wrap my mind around a run option with a 6’5″ 251lb. QB. WOW

    • dave crockett says:

      I don’t think the Johnson signing precludes a draft pick. It’s more like insurance in case the draft doesn’t fall their way with guys they like. Although this QB class is probably not as bad as it’s painted, it doesn’t strike me as especially deep. Lots of teams are likely to covet the same prospects, which tends to inflate their draft stock. JS seems to be covering his bases.

      Johnson seems like a “classic” (can we use that yet?) PC/JS signing. A highly-recruited guy who is talented, but somehow got marked as damaged goods. In Johnson’s case that’s literally true. He was injured at A&M, had shoulder surgery, and lost zip on his throws. (I recall watching his last start vs. Missouri. Aldon Smith just ate his lunch. Ryan Tannehill replaced him the next week, and that was that.) He’s bounced around since then, but is reported to have fully recovered and changed his throwing motion to something more classic over-the-top, Away from the side-army slinging he did that damaged his shoulder.

  19. Jeff says:

    I think there are a few reasons local players are still tracked heavily. 1st, they don’t count towards the 30 player limit so might as well chat with then. 2nd, a local seems more likely to sign as an UFA for the bonus even knowing they probably won’t make the team. 3rd, knowing whats local can be useful if an injury leads to a need for a quick signing (even if its just for the practice squad). They are convenient, might as well gather information.

  20. Dick Reed says:

    Veltung… ran a 4.39 at Sumner Combine as a junior in HS… ran a 4.38 at Idaho… Was offered a full ride from WSU and turned it down to play indoors at U o I. Also received a full ride for the Huskies Soccer Team… broke the current long jump record for HS in Washington State. The worst QB’s in history for his Junior and Senior Years + idiot coaching!!! As a Sophmore against LA Tech… 4 TD’s… as a fill in! I followed his career as well as Arron Grymes… Good Luck