Report: Pete Carroll closing in on new deal, ownership update

Pete Carroll is reportedly close to a new deal in Seattle

Jason La Canfora is reporting today that the Seahawks and Pete Carroll could be close to announcing a contract extension:

The Seahawks are working to secure just that proposition, sources said, with the “wheels beginning to turn” on a new contract that would keep him in Seattle well beyond this season.

Carroll has one year left on his current deal, and while the Seahawks’ ownership is in some long-term doubt after Paul Allen passed away, league sources said the team is likely at least three years from going to market and Carroll is in line for another extension before then given the exemplary record he has posted.

This shouldn’t be a surprise to anyone. Regardless of any criticism about the 2020 off-season, Carroll is a legendary figure in Seattle. There’s a dearth of upcoming Head Coaching candidates with many teams over the last few years taking punts on trendy college coaches or simply appointing anyone who worked with Sean McVay over the last five years.

There are always coordinators worth taking a chance on. McVay himself is a classic example. Kyle Shanahan was born to be a Head Coach and with hindsight, the Falcons probably should’ve controversially replaced Dan Quinn with Shanahan after their Super Bowl loss. Matt Ryan won the MVP with Shanahan as coach. Since he left Atlanta, they’ve been horribly average.

Sean McDermott is another recent appointment who is succeeding.

Yet at the moment, the options appear really limited.

You need more than someone who can cook up a good scheme. You need a leader and someone who can set out a clear vision. You need a culture-builder.

Carroll has done this in Seattle and had sustained success. That’s not to say he shouldn’t be held to account. The Seahawks have won the NFC West only once in the last five years and despite the brilliance of Russell Wilson, they haven’t got close to returning to the Super Bowl. That has to change. You don’t have to want to fire the coach to state the need for progress. It’s high time the Seahawks took a step forward and pointing that out is perfectly fair.

Equally though, a change for changes sake isn’t a good idea. Bill Belichick had to wait a decade between Super Bowl wins number three and four. He then won three more Championship’s. The Seahawks can have success too, deep into Carroll’s tenure.

I’ve never thought for a second that the end of the Carroll era was near. There was a lot of click-bait nonsense written on other sites over the summer suggesting this could be the case. Carroll’s enthusiasm for coaching remains clear and obvious. I actually think the social justice aspect of this year (with Carroll constantly referring to this as ‘the season of protest’) is right up his street. If anything, this is probably inspiring him to continue for even longer to aid a cause he believes in.

The other thing to consider is the ownership situation that La Canfora also references. The Seahawks remain in a holding pattern. It’s unrealistic that the current ownership structure would remain for the long haul. Eventually someone will buy the team and begin a new era. La Canfora suggests this could be three years away.

Under the current ownership, nobody should expect any changes to the front office structure. One of the first things Jody Allen and her team did was give Pete Carroll a contract extension. They know the franchise needs stability and leadership. They know they have two respected and capable figures at the top of the tree in Carroll and Schneider.

Again though, it’s up to the pair to justify this trust and make the most of the faith and power invested in them. As you’re well aware by now, the Seahawks didn’t have a great off-season. They also face big challenges in the future. They only have a handful of players contracted for next season. There’s a strong possibility of a reduced salary cap. They have no first round pick until 2023. They need to come to an agreement with Jamal Adams on a massive extension and they’ll need to plan for the long term future at key positions such as left tackle.

They’ll also have to try and have another go at fixing the pass rush in 2021. Luckily, there are a long list of names scheduled to reach free agency next year:

Matt Judon
Leonard Williams
Melvin Ingram
Shaquil Barrett
Bud Dupree
Jadeveon Clowney
Yannick Ngakoue
Justin Houston
Ryan Kerrigan
Olivier Vernon
Solomon Thomas
Sheldon Rankins
Takk McKinley
Larry Ogunjobi

It’s also fairly likely Von Miller will depart Denver.

There are also a number of big-name offensive linemen reaching the market:

Brandon Scherff
Joe Thuney
Trent Williams
David Bakhtiari
Alex Mack
Mike Pouncey
Alejandro Villanueva
Ronnie Stanley

Some of these players will be retained by their clubs, obviously. Such as Ronnie Stanley. There will be, however, an opportunity to try and inject some needed talent in the trenches.

If Carroll is given a long term contract extension, securing the O-line and D-line should be the priority alongside extending Adams’ contract.

***UPDATE***

Ian Rapoport is also now reporting on Carroll’s contract, although he hasn’t credited La Canfora for being the first to reveal the news.

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386 Comments

  1. Sea Mode

    V12, our boy is back!

    https://twitter.com/OfficialTylan2/status/1307495105025257472

    • Volume12

      Hell yeah!

  2. Sea Mode

    Did Schefter really just clickbait Al Riveron’s COVID? Glazer 2.0. (though he didn’t milk it for as long, I guess)

    https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1307687825765216258

    • Rob Staton

      Yeah that’s poor form

  3. Troy

    Feels scary to think the Seahawks could get sold in 3 years…as a Sonics fan it is still fresh in my mind how easy it is to lose a team. If the Hawks got sold and moved to a new venue I would be devastated.

    Fuck clay bennet, fuck Howard Schultz.

    I hope the new owner is 100% committed to keeping the team in Seattle and also hopefully as committed as Paul Allen was to the success of the Hawks.

    • Rob Staton

      I wouldn’t worry too much. The Seahawks are now established as one of the prize franchise’s. There is no way the NFL would allow a sale to anyone thinking of moving the team.

      What’s more likely is one of the big, super rich prospective owners — a Jeff Bezos perhaps — would get involved. We’ll see.

      • Elmer

        Maybe new ownership would be a positive thing. It feels like current ownership is not a positive for the team,s direction.

        • Rob Staton

          I would agree. Not as a criticism of Jody Allen either. She’s inherited a situation which is challenging that she never really wished for. And now everyone’s in a holding pattern.

          But yes, the Seahawks certainly miss Paul Allen’s hands on, holding to account and also his ability to pull out all the stops when needed. They need someone with a vision, drive and ambition to take this team to the top.

          • cha

            Remember when they locked Chad Brown in a room with a gigantic pile of cash? That was fun.

    • Big Mike

      Troy: you forgot “fuck Ken Behring”.
      I do agree with Rob they aren’t going anywhere.

    • pdway

      it’s a matter of principle for me to never miss an oppty to say fuck howard schultz and clay bennett.

      bring back the Sonics . . .

  4. HAWKTALKER#1

    Great piece on the “let Russ cook” movements and the positive supporting analytics for it.

    https://youtu.be/jccMjNnauUM

    • Rob Staton

      I’ll watch it but if he doesn’t say they have no choice given the state of other areas of the team, it’ll be missing a great big honking factor.

      Also — I think they need to hand the keys to Russ as much as anyone. But I still emphatically retain that the ‘Let Russ Cook’ mob on twitter are more annoying than athlete’s foot.

      • Henry Taylor

        He does act like all Seahawks fans are united on this front, which is patently untrue.

  5. Chavac

    Did maybe the list next year, along with potentially teams being more strapped by a down salary cap, be one of the reasons they didn’t splurge on D line this year? Not saying I agree with it but just wondering. Also does all the unspent cap this year go towards next?

    And I agree there’s not much to worry about here with regards to future owners. It takes a special type of clown to orchestrate what happened to the Sonics, and I can’t imagine Jodi Allen makes that kind of mistake to a non-PNW buyer.

    • Rob Staton

      “Did maybe the list next year, along with potentially teams being more strapped by a down salary cap, be one of the reasons they didn’t splurge on D line this year?”

      I thought this might come up but the answer is no. You don’t build teams this way. You don’t state you need to fix a pass rush and then on the off-chance the list I published are healthy and available a year later, completely neglect your top off-season priority.

    • cha

      The Seahawks are 12th in available cap space for 2021 and they have RW, Lockett, Reed, Brown, Adams, Wagner, Diggs and (of course) all their rookie contract guys in place. They’re in great shape.

      In fact, I wish they weren’t in such great shape. For once in my life I wish they’d be loaded for bear on the roster and be looking at making some tough choices to manage their cap going forward.

  6. Big Mike

    Outstanding summary article of the situation Rob.

  7. TJ

    This caught my eye… “They’ll also have to try and have another go at fixing the pass rush in 2021. Luckily, there are a long list of names scheduled to reach free agency next year” I just hope we don’t have Jadeveon Clowney 2.0. Hopefully whatever they do, they just act decisively and don’t play games. Nuff’ said on that for now.

    I wonder if Steve Ballmer may be in the picture as a future owner. His PNW/Seattle roots are as strong as anyones, he has more than enough money, and has solid team ownership pedigree.

    • Big Mike

      Would love Ballmer.

    • GoHawksDani

      That would be fun 😀
      Imagine Ballmer with PC on the sideline 😀😀😀
      https://youtu.be/edN4o8F9_P4

      • TJ

        He probably does that every time he looks at his bank statement or stock portfolio. That would be fun to see on the field right after a SB win.

  8. cha

    Very interesting. PC likely tipped it this week when he said ‘he was on a 5 year plan’ when asked about his age and future.

    I really don’t think enough is said in the general media about how he’s kept the franchise afloat after SB49. With all those loudmouth players and that crushing defeat that denied them a claim to a dynasty, they very easily could have imploded as an organization. And then, he managed to keep the Hawks competitive while restocking/retooling/rebuilding the team (pick your favorite term). He’s done remarkably well with that.

    And this year, it’s possible he has at age 69 no less, decided to try bucking his own principles to work with the talent he has. Letting RW take the offense to fantastic places, and blitzing a safety liberally (small sample size alert). If he and JS can somehow, someway, rangle another pass rusher through a trade, this season (dealing with COVID as a team, the lack of fans in games and the political challenges) could be an all time vintage season from PC.

    • pdway

      totally agree w you. that was as backbreaking of a loss as a franchise can have. And it did do a lot of damage – but we never swooned to a cluster of 4-12 years, like the Niners did. And while they’re reaping the benefits of those high picks, I wouldn’t trade that for all the wins, and the annual contending, and playoffs of the Carroll era.

  9. Gaux Hawks

    we might get lucky during the season with a trade partner looking to ship off a DE (given the current 2021 cap headlines). just grasping at straws, our entire DL depth is pathetic.

  10. Chris

    I don’t know how many Washington Billionaires there are and how many want to own a NFL team. I know Bezos’s name has been rumored but has he stated or hinted he’s interested? We all know he’s the owner or CEO of SEVERAL companies but will he find owning a sports team worthwhile his time?
    I don’t envision him being a Jerry Jones type of owner, but I’m not sure if he’d view his efforts placed somewhere else.

  11. cha

    Oh Geez. Mostert on the first play. 80 yards.

    • Rob Staton

      Jets are a hot mess.

      • pdway

        Is Darnold going to be a total bust? I confess to not watching many Jets games . . . but doesn’t seem like he’s improving.

    • Aaron

      Jets are one of the worst organizations in the NFL. I feel bad for Fant and McDougald having to be on that team…yuck!

      • Group Captain Mandrake

        Feel sorry for MacDougald, he didn’t have any choice. Fant chose that dumpster fire.

        • cha

          And he can’t even be a LT like he said he wanted to.

  12. SteveLargent80

    Unfortunately, I think most of the lineman will get re-signed. It would be foolish for Washington or New England to let Scherff or Thuney walk, and I’d imagine the 49ers retain Trent Williams. Stanley will likely be paid whatever he wants by Baltimore, and the same goes for Bakhtiari. The Falcons are in an interesting position, and Alex Mack surely would be a good get. Pouncey is injury-prone, so the Chargers May let him test the market. As for Villanueva, I believe he has said he would retire if Pittsburgh doesn’t re-sign him

  13. cha

    Jimmy G takes a low hit and limps off.

    https://twitter.com/NFL_DovKleiman/status/1307731076723470337

    • cha

      And now Bosa is down on the field. Yikes.

      • cha

        Bosa getting carted off. This looks bad.

        • cha

          Solomon Thomas down. This is crazy.

          The Devil’s come to collect his due.

          • cha

            Thomas carted off. Goodness gracious.

        • Volume12

          Bosa’s done. That was bad bad. Look on his face said it all.

          • Big Mike

            Every year some team is snakebit with injuries. Think it’s the 9ers this year.

    • cha

      Around The NFL
      @AroundTheNFL
      𝗕𝗥𝗘𝗔𝗞𝗜𝗡𝗚: Jimmy Garoppolo (ankle), Raheem Mostert (knee) ruled out for 49ers vs. Jets; Nick Mullens in at QB

  14. Henry Taylor

    Our win against Atlanta is looking better.

    • Big Mike

      Hope that situation holds. Next best thing to a Seahawks win is a Cowpukes loss.

  15. Denver Hawker

    Another Top 5 pick coming to the Niners I suppose.

    • Volume12

      Naw, Shannahan is his father’s son. He’ll plug in RBs, get at least 1,000 yards, and they’ll keep him in most games.

  16. David K

    I think with Pete locked up it may be time to bring in a new GM with a fresh take to partner with him.

    • Rob Staton

      This will not happen

  17. Aaron

    Injuries Injuries Injuries…

  18. Thomas Wells

    Chase claypool 84 yards to the house! So fast for such a big man

    • Trevor

      He is going to be a star. Every bit the freak DK is.

      Vol did you take him in our Fantasy league?

    • GoHawksDani

      Claypool is the closest thing to Kittle in recent drafts. Different position but the bigger body (for a WR), the love for blocking. This dude won’t be a Julio or Hill but he’ll be one of the guys that just gets it done whatever the task is

      • Rob Staton

        I wouldn’t say he’s like Kittle. Promising start as a bigger receiver though.

  19. Volume12

    Barkley is overrated. Too many negative yards. Passed on him in 2 leagues for a reason. Give me Josh Jacobs over him every day of the week.

    • Henry Taylor

      He does try and do too much a lot of the time, kind of has to with this side tho.

      • Volume12

        That’s true. His O-line is garbage & does him no favors.

  20. Big Mike

    If Bosa is done for the season how much you wanna bet the 9ers sign Mathews and we get to watch him cheap shot Russ for 2 more games before his career is mercifully over?

  21. Ukhawk

    Rewatched SB49 on NFL Gamepass. Forgot Mebane was injured ($5m of $143m cap), Ahtyba Rubin signed and injured in preseason ($3m), Tony McDaniel played ($1.5m) as did Kevin Williams ($2m) signed as an injury replacement and played well in the game

    What could have been if Rubin and Mebane we’re both healthy?

    Nevertheless I hold out hope we can shore up the DL interior in a cost and performance effective way.

    Let’s spend the some money on the DEs

    • CaptainJack

      Pretty sure Rubin was brought in after we lost

  22. cha

    OK that’s getting me pumped.

    Lockett emerging out of the water….

    https://twitter.com/Seahawks/status/1307759595436167168

  23. Volume12

    Jags might be a defense and another playmaker on the other side away from having something. Won’t hold my breath. It is Jacksonville after all. Real good game here though between them & the Titans.

    • Volume12

      They took CJ Henderson in the top 12. Who was their other 1st round pick this year?

      • Nathan W.

        Chaisson

      • Sea Mode

        @S4CKGURU

  24. Sea Mode

    Man, the injuries just piled on today in the early games. Fingers crossed.

    https://www.nfl.com/news/notable-injuries-from-sunday-s-week-2-games

    Tony Pauline
    @TonyPauline
    ·14m

    CBS reporting torn right ACL for Saquon Barkley.

    • Sea Mode

      Ian Rapoport
      @RapSheet
      ·2m

      #49ers coach Kyle Shanahan said star pass-rusher Nick Bosa likely tore his ACL. He’ll have more tests, but it’s not good.

      I thought Washington DC was the bad grass. Is MetLife bad too?:

      Albert Breer
      @AlbertBreer
      ·2m

      49ers coach Kyle Shanahan on the MetLife Stadium turf causing injuries: “It was something our guys were concerned about right away. And the results definitely made that stronger.”

  25. Rob Staton

    Not sure Dallas losing is good for us.

    They will be desperate next week.

    • Sea Mode

      Looks like you might get your wish.

      ATL are the undisputed masters of choking.

      • pdway

        that was bad even for them. jesus.

    • Rob Staton

      Wow

      😂😂😂

      • Sea Mode

        Julio looking at Dan Quinn like that on the sidelines is foreboding…

      • Bmseattle

        so… the Atlanta players stand around, waiting for the onside kick to go 10 yards… then allowing the Cowboys to fall on it?

        Then the Atlanta defensive back inexplicably falls down, allowing a huge Dallas pass play into FG range?

        Man… if you are one to believe in “influenced” outcomes in NFL games, this is a game for the ages.

        • Rob Staton

          Or if you’re one to believe the Falcons are a joke.

    • Scot04

      Big kick for Dallas. Horrible loss for Atlanta

  26. Rob Staton

    The Atlanta Falcons are an embarrassing mess.

    • Seahawcrates

      Dan Quinn deserves to be fired if only because he has subjected me to so many Jerry Jones celebrating highlights.

  27. Big Mike

    Let’s see………..Falcons blew a 20 point lead? Check. Falcon players didn’t even know the rule to the point to just fall on the onside kick before it goes 10 yds? Check. Time for Quinn to be at the unemployment office along with his ST coach? Check

    • Sea Mode

      Absolutely unbelievable. Literally the only objective of an onside kick is not to let this happen.

      https://twitter.com/CharlesRobinson/status/1307780557175173120

      • cha

        Buddy of mine is a Packer shareholder. Sent that link to him to activate his PTSD.

        I’m a great friend.

  28. Sea Mode

    Dudes are even getting injured waiting for the kickoff this week ffs…:

    Ian Rapoport
    @RapSheet
    ·8m

    The chest injury to Tyrod Taylor happened after pregame warmups and before the kickoff. And now, Justin Herbert is in for the #Chargers.

  29. Sea Mode

    Cam Inman
    @CamInman
    · 26m

    #49ers Jimmy Garoppolo has a high-ankle sprain, and that means they’ll likely start Nick Mullens next Sunday at #Giants on turf that Kyle Shanahan and others are blasting

  30. Rob Staton

    The Arizona Cardinals are legit.

    And the Rams are back.

    • TRevor

      As expected the NFC West is flat out stacked particularly on the offensive side of the ball personnel and scheme wise.

    • pdway

      Over the long run – the Cards scare me more than the Rams.

      Kyler Murray is going to be a problem for years and years.

      Got to give the Cards credit for cutting bait on 1st round pick Rosen, and knowing the smart move was to Murray at #1.

      • Rob Staton

        The only thing is until I need to see Seattle put up any resistance to McVay’s offense before I can believe it.

        Until that happens, I’m fearing them more.

        • pdway

          it’s true – he had definitely had our number.

          I’d just rather see Goff than Murray, on a fear factor basis.

    • Seahawcrates

      And they play Lions, Panthers, Jets, Cowboys next. Could easily be undefeated when they play Seattle.

  31. charlietheunicorn

    49ers, what a dumpster-fire of injuries now. Some big and some small. I’ve not seen a team hit so hard in a very long time. Key members of the offense and defense.

    Falcons. Total “shatt-the-bed” fest. Cowboys need to give 17 for the Falcons a check, he tossed the game. I guess Quinn is on the hottest seat now…. after this debacle. As for the offense, they are fine with or without Shannahan, the defense is playing poorly.

    Cowboys didn’t exactly look great, until the end of todays game. Dangerous, to be sure, but made too many mistakes. Got some lucky bounces and escaped without any major injuries that I recall.

    • Rob Staton

      I wouldn’t underestimate the Cowboys.

      They are very capable.

      Very weird start but maybe that’s what they needed to kick into life?

      • charlietheunicorn

        They got some life now. Going to have to watch out for their WRs. Lamb started showing up in this game. Gallop has continued to impress. Very big test for the Seahawks secondary.

    • AlaskaHawk

      Glass half full: At least the 49ers can focus on getting a high draft pick and rebuilding the team.

      Green Bay looked good today. They are going to be tough.

      Vikings are still searching for something.

      Not looking forward to playing the Rams or the Cardinals this year.

      • cha

        I wouldn’t bury the Niners until they’re dead.

        They’re still very talented and have a very good HC.

  32. Trevor

    How is Dan Quinn still an NFL coach? What a dumpster fire they have been since Shanahan left.

  33. charlietheunicorn

    Vikings. The first 2 games are ….. wow. Terrible.
    Didn’t see them being this bad early out of the gate. Packers might run away with the division now.

  34. Trevor

    Kyler Murray is going to be a nightmare for NFL defensive coordinators.

    • Volume12

      I did take Claypool btw

      • Trevor

        I think it will work out well for you. He is only going to improve as the season goes on and the Steelers are the best at developing WRs.

  35. Volume12

    Herbert looks really f***n’ good.

  36. Rob Staton

    Just watched the Jets post-game press conference.

    Now THAT was a press conference!

    • cha

      Oh man was that thorough. Quoting his own words, holding him to account.

      Thanks for the note Rob. That was a stark contrast to what we’re seeing from the Seattle media.

  37. charlietheunicorn

    Seahawks!

  38. Rob Staton

    Just saw Calais in a Ravens uniform and cried.

    • BobbyK

      No doubt!

  39. BobbyK

    Nobody can create the positive culture Carroll has. He has no peers there. He’s not perfect, but he’s better than most. All I know is they cannot go through the season with this current DL. Maybe the Falcons will can their coach and GM in a few weeks. Maybe they’ll be interested in trading a certain DT. Maybe the Hawks will go into the 2021 draft with no picks until the 4th round. I don’t know. But they can’t waste a season in terms of having a realistic chance to win the Super Bowl on the current clown-show on the DL.

  40. charlietheunicorn

    You made me LOL Rob with the comment about the NY media hitting the coach and players in the press conference for the Jets. NYers are pretty-much all that way, they tell you what they are thinking and what is wrong… it isn’t about being rude, it is just “facts” and no time for BS when dealing with others. As you mentioned, it makes for some highly entertaining press conferences (politics, sports and evening news segments).

    • Rob Staton

      ‘Are you embarrassed Adam?’

      ‘The owner says he wants progress. Where’s the progress Adam?’

      ‘What were you doing on that fourth down???’

      ‘Why haven’t you been able to move the ball for the last two seasons?’

      Proper questions.

      • Adog

        Is it fair to compare Pete Carrol to Tom Coughlin ? Both older…sb winners…have no idea how tough the NY media was on Coughlin? I would assume they’d be tough on anyone…

        • Rob Staton

          Totally different coaches and situations

  41. Sea Mode

    So… Herbert beating Mahomes…? What’s going on out there? Anyone watching?

    Also: https://twitter.com/MasterTes/status/1307792690931732483

  42. JLemere

    Man watching Joey Bosa is a work of art. A dream scenario for SEA that couldn’t be materialize.

  43. Rob Staton

    Classic Justin Herbert.

    Has everything.

    But can’t stay away from the WTF moments.

    • TJ

      Yep. Looks like he can be a future star, but then rolls left throws right, across his body, late, and into triple coverage. I’ll tell you what though, if/when he gets it figured out, he can be a good one.

    • Big Mike

      Yeah they’re up at least 20-9 if he doesn’t throw the pick, maybe 24-9. Now KC drives 95 for the TD. When you have the chance to put away a team with a QB like Mahomes (or Russ, or Erin, or, etc.) you must do it.

  44. Rob Staton

    Seahawks’ pass rushers today:

    Mayowa, Collier, Irvin.

    That’s it.

    Green, Robinson, Walker all inactive.

    This is ridiculous.

    • cha

      DAMONTRE MOORE HYPETRAIN LEAVING THE STATION

      • Rob Staton

        Sigh

        I forgot about him.

        • cha

          PC is in the train car by himself

        • Rob Staton

          It’s also pretty evident the ‘hype’ around Alton Robinson’s off-season was just that. Hype.

          Can’t even get active when Rasheem Green is out.

          • Trevor

            If he can’t even be active at this point it is a terrible sign.

            • Rob Staton

              God knows what Clay Matthews must be asking for.

          • Big Mike

            Yeah no injury at all from anything we’ve heard. Apparently nothing more than a 5th round JAG

          • Big Mike

            And now they have to compete with the 9ers for any scraps left that are available to sign since they lost Bosa and Thomas today.

            • Rob Staton

              Good point.

              Even the most staunch defender against these legit criticisms has to admit that a rush attack of Mayowa, Moore, Collier and Irvin is going to be an issue.

              They must find an addition, somehow or someway.

              • Trevor

                Just bite the bullet and bring in both Wake and Matthews to see if either has anything left. Even if you have to overpay the contracts are not guaranteed if they don’t work out.

                • Rob Staton

                  I wouldn’t overpay but for me you’ve got to give them a shot now. Especially with nothing guaranteed.

              • Big Mike

                And they damn well better do it quickly this coming week.

          • cha

            Depression achievement unlocked.

    • CaptainJack

      Robinson inactive is completely illogical unless he has some injury

      • cha

        So help me, if PC pulls out the “yeah, we should have played him more” nugget Week 17 or in the offseason….

  45. Trevor

    Mahomes is so much fun to watch even when he is having an off game.

  46. Rob Staton

    Can anyone remember that guy called Earl Thomas?

    He was good once.

    • Trevor

      There is a crazy reality tv show screaming his name now. He was always weird even when he was great with the Hawks ( ie dressing as a king wearing a crown to his wedding ) but Things even got weirder after he left it seems.

    • Big Mike

      You could see the physical regression last year. So is he HOF?

      • Trevor

        As a player yes. Teammate not so much.

  47. Trevor

    Jerry Tillery has looked good today for SD as well.

    In that stacked DL draft last year how the heck did we end with LJ Collier? I know you have explained it Rob but I still find it amazing.

  48. Rob Staton

    This is mildly concerning: https://twitter.com/bcondotta/status/1307826889247997952

    Saw him clutching it last week during the game.

  49. HAWKTALKER#1

    Why the heck is Alton Robinson inactive again this week?

  50. Rob Staton

    What a start.

    Stuff like this is how the New Orleans & Baltimore games happened.

  51. AlaskaHawk

    Seahawks are moving the ball nicely – when they catch the ball.

  52. Rob Staton

    Cannot believe they called that against Lockett.

    Killing the game with stuff like that.

    • Bmseattle

      me either… and it’s a personal foul?

    • Volume12

      That was terrible. Weak AF

  53. AlaskaHawk

    Yeah- touchdown
    See , who needs a defense? The offense can just play against itself.

  54. Rob Staton

    Hopefully that tired out their defense.

  55. Volume12

    Beautiful drive.

    • cha

      OL did pretty well on that drive.

      • Volume12

        They did. Gave him plenty of time. Not worried about the run blocking at all.

  56. Bmseattle

    Brilliantly led drive by Wilson.
    Crazy to say, but it seems like he’s taken yet another step forward this year.

  57. Bmseattle

    Dunbar giving a lot of space

  58. Rob Staton

    So stupid by Diggs.

    • Volume12

      Completely unnecessary, but no warning?

      • Justin Mullikin

        Definitely a penalty. I’m fine with him being ejected as long as that is the new standard across the league. Consistency is what I am looking for.

  59. Shadrey Sands

    Is there a better description of the Seahawks D Line than what Al Michaels just said? “They have uhhhh Reed…and uhhh Poona is real small and uhhh Bobby Wagner is a future hall of famer”

    • Rob Staton

      I thought exactly the same!

  60. Bmseattle

    No true backup FS on the roster.

  61. Rob Staton

    This defense aint it chaps.

    • cha

      “Hey, let’s have Barton contain the edge on our goal line stand.”

    • Rob Staton

      There is nobody… nobody… putting up resistance up front.

      • Rob Staton

        But, you know, ‘stop talking about it Rob’

        • AlaskaHawk

          The offense has to score 40+ points a game this year. Adapt and improvise.

          • Rob Staton

            Last week they created scoreboard pressure. Olsen spotting NE a seven-point head start won’t do that today.

  62. Bmseattle

    Short yardage defense is going to be a weakness all year.

  63. DC

    Going to need some RW magic to win this one. Got a feeling it might get ugly.

  64. downtownjewelrybryan

    why is barton always in on goal line

  65. Pran

    Defense is cooked..

  66. Rob Staton

    How did Wilson not detect that blitz?

    Winovich unblocked.

    • Lewis

      Valiant try by Hyde

  67. cha

    Winovich just destroyed Hyde’s soul.

  68. Rob Staton

    So who’s your nickel cornerback now Blair’s out with a horrible looking knee injury?

    • Lewis

      How long is the flight from London?

    • Volume12

      Amadi

    • Haawkcrazy

      Expect we will see lots of Amadi

  69. Pran

    Is it going to be a long night. Wilson better put 50 burger

  70. Shadrey Sands

    Watching how easy that goal line td for Cam was, and how awful this defense is going to be to watch this season, it’s so difficult to rationalize 2 things: 1) Carroll amd Schneider are brilliant football minds who completely transformed the roster/culture and won a superbowl 2) they have completely missed on many positional groups that are so obvious even us armchair quarterbacks can see it. I just don’t understand how that happens?

    I’m sorry and I know Rob has been hitting on this all offseason, but I really can’t imagine the 2008 Carroll/Schneider having this offseason.

    • Rob Staton

      The D-line situation isn’t just a small issue either. It’s a huge one.

  71. Rob Staton

    Woah should’ve been a pick-six.

    • Matt

      Dunbar just kind of sucks right now.

    • Bmseattle

      That was his one chance to jump that route after playing soft all game.
      Wish he could have made the play.

    • cha

      Dunbar could’ve repaid a lot of offseason grief with a pick 6.

  72. Rob Staton

    That looked like an ACL for Blair.

    Caused, unnecessarily, by KJ Wright.

    • Lewis

      Probably the best case scenario. Could be multiple ligaments.

  73. jopa726

    I will bet you that is an ACL for Blair. He is done for the year.

    • Rob Staton

      Looked that way. His knee bent right back. Can only hope it’s not worse than a typical ACL.

      No idea what KJ was doing there.

      • Bmseattle

        Another lost season from another of our high draft picks… *sigh*

        • AlaskaHawk

          This is crazy seeing players drop like this.

  74. Leonardo

    At the beginning of every year we always forget what a war of attrition the NFL is. Our starting units might look great on paper, but backups like Lano Hill and Jamarco Jones will find themselves on the field, and then
    our delicate plans to cobble together a pass rush could collapse like a house of cards.

  75. Rob Staton

    Wow.

    That was some Julio Jones s**t right there.

  76. Volume12

    DK bodying the defensive MVP. My goodness

    • Pran

      Wilson MEtcalf owning Gilmore…thing of a beauty

    • Bmseattle

      If he can learn to use his body like that… watch out league.

  77. Shadrey Sands

    The Texans are 0-2, any chance there’s a defensive solution we can poach from them to fix our problems for the third straight year?

    • Rob Staton

      We need to look at rebuilding teams. The Texans aren’t giving up after losses to KC and Baltimore.

      • Shadrey Sands

        Totally fair, I just meant that somehow, the Texans became our saving grace the last few seasons. Plus, with so little draft capital, I don’t think we can trade our way into much. Time to just hope for development from LJ/Green/whoever else!

  78. Gohawks5151

    Where are the Touchdown dances!!!???

  79. Rob Staton

    We just rushed KJ Wright off the edge.

    No pressure on 3rd down.

    Massive completion.

    • DC

      And why are we not using our new super fast 1st rd LB for that?!

  80. cha

    This DL is being eaten alive.

  81. Bmseattle

    Of course, the one time Reed gets pressure, he gets blatantly held… but no call.

    • Rob Staton

      Dunno — I thought he backed into the OL there and was looking for it and was just being handled.

      But I’d need to see it again.

  82. Lewis

    Rush getting snaps

  83. Volume12

    Amadi! Huge play

  84. Rob Staton

    Fantastic play by Ugo Amadi. Sensational read and execution. As good as a turnover given the missed FG.

  85. jopa726

    New England Offensive Coordinator Josh McDaniels went right after Amadi. Huge Play on 3rd down. He was out there on an island.

  86. Rob Staton

    Jamal Adams very quiet so far.

    • Lewis

      Was thinking the same thing. Don’t remember hearing his name, but was away for a minute

      • Pugs1

        Belichick is gonna Belichick and take you best player out of the game.

    • Pran

      Belchick played Adams twice a year. It’s not surprising …

      • Rob Staton

        It’s pretty hard to keep a safety out of a game with scheme.

        • Bmseattle

          Definitely doesn’t seem to be as aggresive this game.
          Hope it’s not the elbow

          • Rob Staton

            That is my fear.

            That this injury is a problem.

            • Rob Staton

              Just looked.

              Jamal Adams has one tackle in the first half.

              • Bmseattle

                Haven’t noticed him blitz either.
                Ominous.

                Reminds me of when Sherman messed up his elbow and tried playing with one arm.

                • Volume12

                  he’s blitzed twice

  87. DC

    This is where RW needs to pull us away. I’m not scared of this offense with Newton playing from behind

    • Rob Staton

      Scoreboard pressure.

      It has to be the way this year.

  88. Max

    Pass pro looks really good

  89. Bmseattle

    Wow… Gilmore takes down Carson in the open field

  90. Trevor

    The Hawks passing attack is really good. They will likely add Gordon as WR3 as well. The defense only has to be decent for them to have a shot. jS has to add something to the DL and soon.

  91. DC

    Typical hawks. Can’t get out of our own way making it so difficult on themselves. Get ready for the 4th quarter heart attack

  92. Rob Staton

    SEVEN penalties by the Seahawks in the first half (which isn’t over yet).

  93. Shadrey

    How many historically great runs with historically great coaches have had as many penalties as the seahawks during Carroll’s tenure?

  94. Pran

    That was one bad series… weird

  95. Scot04

    Wilson really needs to learn to throw it away

    • DC

      We’ve been saying that for 8 years now. Don’t think it’s ever going to happen

  96. Shadrey

    How many historically coaches on historically great runs have had as big of penalty problems as the seahawks have had under Carroll?

    • Shadrey

      Sorry for the double post

  97. DC

    On top of being a sh*t show of a serious terrible clock management as usual

  98. DC

    2nd half predictions.

    Good: DK will break 100 yards
    Bad: RW will be our leading rusher, again.

    This season is going to be 2018 all over again.

    • Volume12

      Other than the pick 6 and a few of the penalties, 1st half has gone as expected for me.

  99. Steve in Renton

    Anybody think the run d held up pretty decent? 3.0 yards per carry so far. Pretty surprising..

    Pass rush is bad tho.

  100. millhouse-serbia

    Dr Chao on Blair…not worst news…

    By video he suffers a gruesome right knee injury and will not return. At the least, he’ll have to contend with a significant grade MCL sprain and will likely end up on injured reserve. Luckily his ACL appears to be spared

    • Hawkcrazy

      Sure hope he is right and Blair is out only limited time… and Diggs doesnt get additional suspension. I still think ejection unwarranted so hard to change what you are doing in mid seconds.

  101. Hawkcrazy

    Seems we are not using Carson enough… way too much Homer as I believe Carson is much better player.

  102. Leonardo

    Gotta get home on that one Jamal, absolute killer

    • Rob Staton

      It’s the problem when you rely on the blitz.

      If it doesn’t get home… look out.

    • Bmseattle

      yep… instead of a sack on 3rd down, it’s a conversion

  103. Troy

    Collier sighting! He knocked that ball down

    • Bmseattle

      Establishing a pattern of one decent play a game.

  104. Rob Staton

    This defense is worse than 2019.

    No question.

    • Matt

      I legitimately think it’s noticeably worse so far

      • Bmseattle

        It feels like we at least have more of a *chance* at making a big play.
        But yes… the results have not been good.

        • Matt

          That’s a great way to put it.

    • DC

      NFL equivalent of wet toilet paper

  105. Matt

    Wasting another year of RW with this defense. What I’m seeing the last 7 quarters is not good enough to get passed the divisional round of the playoffs. Bummer.

    • Pugs1

      While not looking like world beaters they’ve given up 10 points tonight.

  106. Pran

    Amadi is playing well. Griffin is bad. Adam should have finished the sack.

  107. Volume12

    Here comes Adams

  108. Rob Staton

    Can’t believe we’re relying on Adams — 100% — to get off the field. This is insane. It’s either he blitzes and makes it or they convert.

    I’ve never known a defense operate like this.

    • Pran

      If it’s 3rd down..its Adams time.

    • DC

      Can you imagine if this D didn’t have Adams?

    • dcd2

      Setting aside the madness of this scheme, Jamal Adams is a BAMF. Absolutely loving what he brings.

  109. Volume12

    Man. Carson runs hard.

  110. Pran

    DK owned Gilmore.. that’s the headline.

  111. Brazilian Hawk

    DK owning Gilmore is priceless.

  112. Volume12

    What. A F***n’. Throw!

    • Rob Staton

      Insane throw.

      Equally insane footwork by Moore.

      Wow.

      • Pran

        Elite QBs elevate the Players.

        • Bmseattle

          Moore has always been talented.
          Huge boost if he is consistent enough to be a legitimate #3

      • Volume12

        Incredible play

      • DC

        For all the knocks on Moore, he’s has the physical tools but coming from a small school was going to need several years. I think he can be a good #3.

      • Simo

        Amazing play, no margin for error on that sideline! Defense needs to step up some, haven’t heard Wagner called almost all game.

  113. Troy

    Hot damn Wilson is just on another planet right now

  114. Volume12

    Barton needed that. Gives the D energy.

  115. Volume12

    Adams is in his zone man

  116. Pran

    How is Edelman on an island all the time..

  117. Rob Staton

    At last he’s held onto one.

    • Pran

      He is getting comfortable… he is our #1 CB in a few games.

    • DC

      He and the D needed it bad.

  118. DC

    I really like Ugo. Reminds me of Walter Thurmond

    • Lewis

      Yeah, he’s stepped up a bit when we needed someone to.

    • Volume12

      He’s a fantastic little player. Gamer. Just needs to figure out all the little things. It’ll come in time.

  119. Volume12

    Dunbar made up for the dropped pick 6. And boy did that unit have to have that.

    • Rob Staton

      They really did.

      Because this D-line is DEFINITELY the worst in the league for pass rush.

      Even Bruce is totally ineffective.

      • Volume12

        Yeah, it’s not good. The depth is fine. There’s just nothing at the top.

        • Rob Staton

          Nobody pushing the pocket from inside, no speed off the edge, nobody getting into the backfield.

  120. Bmseattle

    What do you know… it’s one of those big plays we’ve been waiting for!

    • Simo

      Gotta make em pay!!

  121. dcd2

    There we go Dunbar! Just missed one of those earlier. Not this time!

  122. Shadrey Sands

    Ok, hear me out…but is this team the reverse of the legion of boom teams? Explosive offense with a game manager, just make 2 plays a game defense vs the game manager Wilson with the explosive, playmaking defense?

    • DC

      I get your thought but no. We didn’t lose games because of our game manager offense. Only way it works is if the D can get turn overs to be the explosive plays that offense had

  123. Volume12

    DK’s blocking was something else there

  124. Rob Staton

    I love how easy that was.

  125. Volume12

    Freddie Swain w/ 2 big plays in back to back weeks.

  126. BobbyK

    Russell Wilson is good.

    • Rob Staton

      Let’s not go overboard, he’s OK.

    • Simo

      Easy now, I could have made that throw with how open Swain was.

  127. DC

    RW is on an entirely different level now. Seriously, this reminds me of Peyton back in the day when Indy never had a D

  128. DC

    Shout out to Schotty!

  129. Rob Staton

    Imagine a good defense with THIS offense.

    • Rob Staton

      Oh for crying out loud.

      • Rob Staton

        Why can nothing ever be easy???

        • Rob Staton

          It has taken New England less than two real minutes to respond to the TD against this qrotesque defense.

    • Volume12

      Just 1 borderline elite pass rusher would take it to another level IMO. Could string him together w/ BWagz & Adams.

  130. Troy

    Wilson playing damn near perfect. Hopefully MVP and Super Bowl MVP

  131. Jordan

    Not to beat a dead horse. But it is criminal to have the defensive line we do with what we have in Russell Wilson. Having watched some dreadful Seahawks QB’s growing up, I’m going to try and just enjoy #3.

  132. DC

    Wet toilet paper

  133. Pran

    It took 2 plays..

  134. downtownjewelrybryan

    whats that stat where we win if we lead by 6?

  135. DC

    Keep your foot on the throttle Schotty. RW is going to throw for 6 tds

  136. Shadrey Sands

    Quick question, as bad as the seahawks d has been, hasn’t the patriots d been just as disappointing? I know they have some more excuses (players opting out), but this was the best d in the league and Russ is doing what he wants.

    • Rob Staton

      They lost six starters on defense this season and their legendary QB.

      They didn’t spend $50-60m, get a full draft then trade two first round picks plus for a safety.

      • Shadrey

        I totally get that, and I don’t want to forgive the hawks for the dreadful offseason, but this is still a Bill Belichick defense, and the seahawks have punted twice? 4 passing tds for Russ. I guess I’m not sure if this is just Russ brilliance or a disappointing Pats D performance.

  137. BobbyK

    The old days would be to play not to lose. This new version (of having a franchise QB and a horsesh!t DL) needs to play to win. So they can win. RW…

  138. Canadian Hawk

    Whatever it takes to get a pass rusher this season HAS to be the mentality.

    Full stop.

  139. Rob Staton

    What are they doing????

    1st and 20, run twice and surrender???

    HAVE THEY SEEN THE DEFENSE????

    • Lewis

      What. The. Hell. Was. That?

    • Volume12

      lmaoo

    • Shadrey Sands

      Russ needs a 4th quarter comeback against the Patriots?

      But seriously, that was brutal!!!!

    • Troy

      Seriously horrendous play calling, can’t believe they gave up on that drive like that

  140. Aaron Bostrom

    Maybe they’re trying to instill confidence in the defense? 😉 I agree, Rob. You can’t play to rely on the defense, especially when Russ has had time to throw most of the game

  141. jopa726

    Here comes the Seahawk defense.

  142. Volume12

    The click & close ability of Adams is unreal.

    • dcd2

      He’s incredible.

  143. DC

    Moore has some Tate shiftiness

  144. Pran

    Did Cam think Adams is blitzing… no need for those kind of plays against this defense.

  145. Troy

    Lol we would be absolutely FUCKED defensively without Adams. Hate to admit it but we may have UNDERPAID for him, he is that vital

    • dcd2

      So true.

  146. DC

    1200 yards and 10 TDs for DK?

    • Volume12

      Possibly. It speaks to how easy the game comes to him that a 4-5 catch, 95-100 yds, 1 TD is becoming a regular stateline for him.

      • Matt

        This…I’m gonna throw up

  147. Rob Staton

    Somehow, someway, Russell Wilson has found another level.

    • DC

      I thought the only way he’d get better this year is the play calling/audibles. But he’s executing everything to almost perfection

    • Troy

      We are lucky he is our QB.

      • BobbyK

        So true. The best there is today.

    • Bmseattle

      He’s in total command.
      It’s that perfect marriage of still elite talent, and elite knowledge.
      So fun to watch.

    • Lewis

      Still wish he’d avoid some of the big hits

  148. Volume12

    Shredding the best D in the league

  149. AlaskaHawk

    Oh that touchdown pass to Carson was pretty.

  150. dcd2

    There goes Bruce’s hammy.

    • Lewis

      Didn’t look like he was hit. Maybe a cramp?

    • dcd2

      Ugh, looked like his knee.

  151. Volume12

    Oh no

  152. Frank

    Wilson is filthy good this year, might be his MVP year finally!!! Absolutely underpaid for Adams 💯.

  153. Leonardo

    It’s finally Alton Robinson’s time to shine!

    • HAWKTALKER#1

      Can we please at least see what he can do?

      I think that summarizes our entire pass rush. Inactive.

  154. Big Mike

    so any chance we sign Mathews now?

  155. Troy

    So there goes Irvin one of our only pass rushers…wow. Just wow.

    • CaptainJack

      This game has to be the wake up call to go out and sign someone to fill Bruce’s spot

    • HAWKTALKER#1

      He was a pass rusher?

  156. KennyBadger

    Sooooooo can you just play defense without a line?

    • BobbyK

      They’re trying!

  157. Volume12

    Adams having himself some kind of game, yet he’s being asked to do everything. Literally. Just carried Edelman up the seam w/ nothing over the top in a form of help.

  158. dcd2

    Well, we knew that covering Edelman and stopping Cam would be borderline impossible. We were right.

    Just need a 12 play drive to put a cork on this thing.

  159. Leonardo

    If the offense is anything less than exceptional, we’re in so much trouble. The LoB used to complain about the offense getting too much credit, but Russ and Co. are going to have to do a carry-job this year much harder than anything the LoB had to do.

    • Volume12

      Give it time as hard as it is. We’ve seen plenty of young or unheralded units step up and become dependable.

  160. Bmseattle

    And… somehow the Patriots are still totally in this game.

  161. Haawkcrazy

    Seattle defense horrible when they only have to stop big long plays … needed to just have clock eaten up..

    Need Russ to get a first down

  162. Bmseattle

    Ugh… Carson gave up 2 yards by sliding to stay in bounds, when it was the 2 minute warning anyway.

    • Hawkcrazy

      Yes I think it was lack of awareness

      • Bmseattle

        yep, and it cost us the 1st down, and possibly the game after that ridiculous attempt on 3rd down

  163. Pran

    It dint have to be this hard… bad

  164. AlaskaHawk

    Well that was a puzzling third down play. Way to put the game back on your bad defense!

  165. Volume12

    Hmmmm…. not sure about that 1.

  166. Scot04

    hard to feel confident. This defense is horrible

  167. Trevor

    Can this defense just get one stop?

  168. Hawkcrazy

    Sure see lack of DL

    • Trevor

      It is pathetic.

  169. Trevor

    Cam has all day unless they blitz

    • Pran

      Can the full back time

      • Pran

        Cam the Full back

  170. WallaSean

    last play every time with these guys

  171. Scot04

    ugh. How awful

  172. Matt

    And that’s the ballgame

  173. AlaskaHawk

    Whoo hoo! Who would have thought the defense would make a goal line stand. Well done Seahawks!

  174. Scot04

    LJ Collier, the Hero…

  175. Volume12

    That’s huge for that D right there. Gives me them something to build off of.

    • Volume12

      Laugh all ya want, it’s fair, but big balls Pete put the game in their hands for better or worse. A teaching moment.

      • AlaskaHawk

        It taught me to run on third and a yard.

        • HAWKTALKER#1

          It sucks to be a slow learner.

  176. Gohawks5151

    Good to see the much maligned Delano Hill and LJ Collier win it!

  177. Trevor

    Wow awful defensive performance bailed out by one huge play! Give Collier some props on that goal line stand.

  178. CaptainJack

    Eerily eerily similar to the end of SuperBowl 9 in reverse

    • CaptainJack

      49* Hands are shaking with adrenaline

  179. Aaron

    Delano Hill and LJ Collier ftw……..wha?????

    Hell has frozen over…

    • AlaskaHawk

      Meet the new sheriff in town – Defense LOL

  180. Bmseattle

    We know Pete is gonna be jacked up… but I hope he doesn’t let a victory cloud his vision.
    We need major help on defense.

    • Volume12

      Thet do, but it’s probably gonna have to come from within this year.

  181. Shadrey Sands

    Who on this site said d line was a problem??

    But seriously, a win is a win, and the offense looks amazing!

  182. Hawkcrazy

    Game should not have been nearly so close. Glad seattle won but damn that call when Seattle last had the ball 3rd and 1 and throw a bomb to lockett…. hell we are built to run.

    • Bmseattle

      I know.
      Russ likes taking that play when it’s open. But sometimes you just have to play smart. They hadn’t stopped Carson all game, and at the very least, the clock would have kept running. That incompletion nearly cost us the game.

  183. cha

    RW postgame: “We needed to score a bunch of points today.”

    That says it all.

    • Scot04

      Sadly their gonna need to push up a ton of points every game

    • AlaskaHawk

      Forty points a game is about right.

  184. JC3

    Pete’s heart attack ball back in town again!

  185. Hebegbs

    Good win. Offense is fun to watch. The D line got no pressure with 4 and barely any blitzing a 5th, all night. Scary bad. Worse than 2019 just as Rob has said all along. Irvin injured not sure how badly and not like he is the savior either. But wow it is hard to watch a D line generate no pressure.

    Congrats to Collier especially for busting up that goal line save of the game. God I hope they at least sign someone this week. Snacks and/or Mathews. They gotta do something even though it is mostly now too late. What a shame if they ruin this level of play of Russ and this O with terrible D line planning.

    Off to enjoy the win. Go Hawks.

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