2020 Combine day three — DB

Feel free to use this as an open thread. I will post forty yard dash times here and any other testing numbers. At the end of the day I will post a review of the combine.

If you want a refresher on what to look out for at each position check out our massive combine preview.


Players with +32 inch arms have a star next to their name:

Damon Arnette — 4.57 & 4.57
Trajan Bandy — 4.50 & DNP
Essang Bassey — 4.46 & 4.51
Brian Cole — 4.53 & 4.56
Nevelle Clarke — DNP
Cam Dantzler — 4.64 & 4.65
Javaris Davis — 4.40 & 4.44
*Trevon Diggs — DNP
Kristian Fulton — 4.47 & 4.53
Jeff Gladney — 4.49 & 4.57
AJ Green — 4.63 & 4.71
Javelin Guidry — 4.30 & 4.30
*Bryce Hall — DNP
Harrison Hand — 4.53 & 4.52
CJ Henderson — 4.39 & 4.41
Lavert Hill — DNP
Darnay Holmes — 4.51 & 4.49
Noah Igbinoghene — 4.48 & 4.53
Dane Jackson — 4.60 & 4.57
*Lamar Jackson — 4.65 & 4.60
Jaylon Johnson — 4.51 & 4.54
*BoPete Keyes — DNP
*Micheal Ojemudia — 4.45 & 4.69
*Jeff Okudah — 4.48 & 4.50
James Pierre — 4.64 & 4.59
Troy Pride — 4.45 & 4.46
John Reid — 4.50 & 4.50
Amik Robertson — DNP
Reggie Robinson — 4.49 & 4.45
Stanford Samuels — 4.66 & 4.71
Josiah Scott — 4.42 & 4.45
AJ Terrell — 4.43 & 4.43
Stanley Thomas-Oliver — 4.50 & 4.49
*Kindle Vilor — 4.56 & 4.44

This is not a cornerback group for the Seahawks. There may be alternatives not working out at the combine but it’s hard to find an option among this collection.

If we exclude Jeff Okudah, only four players ran with +32 inch arms. Kindle Vilor lacks their preferred height while Michael Ojemudia is slight and Lamar Jackson lacks twitch and agility.


Grayland Arnold — 4.59 & 4.67
Julian Blackmon — DNP
Antonie Brooks Jr — 4.64 & 4.64
Myles Bryant — 4.66 & 4.62
Terrell Burgess — 4.49 & 4.46
Shyheim Carter — DNP
Jeremy Chinn — 4.46 & 4.52
Rodney Clemons — 4.75 & 4.72
Kamren Curl — 4.62 & 4.61
Ashtyn Davis — DNP
Grant Delpit — DNP
Kyle Dugger — 4.50 & 4.51
Jalen Elliott — 4.81 & 4.82
Jordan Fuller — 4.67 & 4.68
Alohi Gilman — 4.67 & 4.68
Jaylinn Hawkins — DNP
Brandon Jones — DNP
Xavier McKinney — 4.64 & DNP
Josh Metellus — 4.59 & 4.56
Chris Miller — 4.65 & 4.62
Tanner Muse — 4.43 & 4.42
JR Reed — 4.55 & 4.55
L’Jarius Sneed — 4.38 & DNP
Geno Stone — 4.65 & 4.62
Daniel Thomas — 4.51 & 4.55
K’Von Wallace — 4.57 & 4.53
Antoine Winfield Jr — 4.48 & 4.46

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  1. Trevor

    Really watching Lamar Jackson closely today to see how he moves. I hope they show more of the drills today.

    • Rob Staton

      He’s a statue on tape so he’ll need a surprising showing here.

      • Trevor

        I view him as a 5-6th round guy at best maybe UDFA.

    • Trevor

      Scratch him off the watch list. He is a statue Rob.

      • Rob Staton

        I thought he might run a 4.70.

  2. Trevor

    All the top guys not running is getting old. Funny thing is the top guys who have no question marks about speed always seem to have no problems running and competing. The guys who do have question mark now all feel like they don’t need to run and just wait till their pro day with less eyes and hand times instead of electronic.

  3. Trevor

    Rob I remember you being really high on Henderson when the CFB season began. He looks like the perfect slot CB in todays NFL. He is going to shine today I imagine and that 40 was a good start.

    • Rob Staton

      Ideal slot. But will go early now.

  4. CaptainJack

    Is it just me or do these times seem slow?

  5. Trevor

    So far only Micheal Ojemudia seems to meet both the arm length and speed criteria.

  6. Trevor

    Really like Pride (ND) as a Day #3 guy to come in and compete at the slot CB spot. He seemed like a really feisty competitor at the Senior Bowl and has good speed.

  7. LA_Hawks

    Rob, do you think there’s a chance that PC/JS coul pursue S A. Harris or CB B. Jones?

    • Rob Staton

      Jones will be way out of their price range. I don’t think they’ll pay top dollar for a 29-year-old safety with the options they already have there.

      The resources have to be spent on the DL.

      • cha

        Indeed. And if they get even a middling pass rush, the DBs already on the roster will look 10% better just from having to cover for a shorter time period.

  8. Volume12

    Let’s see what Jeremy Chinn does. So far so good.

    41″ vert and 11’6″ broad.

    Kyle Dugger with a 42″ vert and 11’2″ broad.

    • Volume12

      Chinn is some kind of physical specimen too. Good lord.

    • Ukhawk


    • Trevor

      They are both really impressive small school guys. Physically they have all the tools to be really good.

  9. AndrewP

    Vilor and Ojemudua, two guys that are on the radar had time oddities between their runs: .24 seconds for Vilor and .14 for Ojedmudia.

    Probably means (and will mean) nothing to the teams, I just find it odd (frustrating) when trying to determine what their true speed is and what range they will likely go.

    • Rob Staton

      Worth noting Vilor is smaller than their size threshold.

      • AndrewP

        Rob- Where would you pull the trigger on Ojemudia?

        I ask b/c with those times he might have vaulted himself into the 4th RD, and that’s usually a round earlier than they like to strike with their type of guys. (Yes, I say this realizing there are exceptions in Thurmond, Griffin and Amadi).

        • Rob Staton

          I haven’t watched him at all. Didn’t really think he looked like a Seahawks corner based on the eye test in shorts.

          • Jim

            Rob, Ojemudia feels more like Byron Maxwell than he does Tre Flowers or Brandon Browner. And that’s not a bad thing. I like his effort in run support a lot and can make plays on the ball. Seems like a guy to take a shot on in the round 4-5 range to push Tre Flowers (he plays the RCB position).


  10. CojackTX

    Any safeties going today who may be considered corner converts?

    • Von

      Jeremy Chin depending on how he runs. Great size and explosiveness.

  11. Ashish

    CB is not must, but we need good backup on both spot. They might trade or look in FA. Not sure King and Thorpe is option as backup

  12. Aaron

    Hawks have how many picks in this draft? A dozen or so, right? I don’t see a dozen guys that they’d want to pick. Gonna need to hit that trade market real hard to find a championship team for 2020.

    • Von

      8 picks at the moment

      • Aaron

        Good to know, thanks Von!

  13. Volume12

    Gonna be some highly intriguing pro days this year.

  14. JimQ

    The Seahawks most recent “good” slot CB, Justin Coleman MIGHT be a “blueprint” of what they seek at slot CB? #’s For purposes of comparison to (maybe a few?) players in this draft, per mockdraftable.com.

    CB-Justin Coleman, Tennessee, 2015 draft. (He put up some “nearly elite” #’s)
    5′-11″, 185-lbs, 31-1/4″-arms, 9-3/8″-hands, 4.53/40, 1.42-10 yd. split, 37-1/2″-VERT, 10′-4″-Broad jump, 6.61-3 cone, 3.98-20 yd shuttle, 11.21-60 yd shuttle, & 20-Reps on the bench.

  15. Volume12

    Jeff Gladney looks really good. Most underrated corner this year for me.

    Kristian Fulton too. 4.47 is an excellent time for him.

    • Trevor

      I really like Gladney too. He looks like a top 50 guy to me.

  16. Volume12

    Did Okudah get hurt?

  17. SonGoku

    Really think that either Jonathan Taylor or a OT are the only options at #27. Maybe we are lucky and Delpit falls…

  18. Volume12

    Really wanna see Marlon Davidson’s Auburn pro day.

    Davidson: I love most about the game is that I can literally go out there and hit a man consistently and pound him and the police not come. That is the most enjoyable moment about ball. To go out there and really abuse somebody.

    Davidson: Can’t tell people your a dog. You gotta go out and show it.

    He has some EDGE like traits too. His bend is pretty incredible for a 300 lber. And then you see plays like this…


    Dude is different. He’s gonna outwork a lot of people.

    • Rob Staton

      He’s such a dog that Auburn took him out for running downs.

      • Volume12


        • Rob Staton

          2019 games.

          Watch them — he was spelled a lot.

          Per Lance Zierlein’s report:

          “Played just 51 percent of snaps against the run”

          This dog is all bark and no bite. Telling everyone he’s a dog. Plays half the run downs.

          • Volume12

            I have. Didn’t see anything unusual at all. Florida, Oregon, Minnesota, the ‘Bama game he’s cleary hurt as when he does come back in he’s limping.

            • Rob Staton

              Stats don’t lie though. He only played 51% of their run downs. I watched a game two weeks ago (full game to watch the Prince) and noticed him off the field a lot.

  19. cha

    Schefter reports Conklin not necessarily to the Jets once FA opens.

    So while the legal tampering period won’t be open for a couple weeks, the illegal tampering period appears wide open LOL.

  20. drewdawg11

    I love me some Darnay Holmes. His arms are short, though. I wonder if they’d be willing to overlook that and put him in the slot. He’s such a tough, aggressive playmaker on defense. He doesn’t back down from anyone. Great ball skills. Would love to see his other testing numbers. Around 4.5 like I thought. All I know is he’s been an alpha since his peewee days.

    • Sea Mode

      I really liked the way he competed in Sr. Bowl 1v1s, but did kind of cross him off due to arm length.

  21. Sea Mode

    Dang it, forgot it started earlier today.

    Wow, Henderson looked silky smooth and fluid turning his hips.

    Eager to get the agility testing results.

    • drewdawg11

      Henderson has made himself some cash! He’s the polar opposite of AJ Epenesa. Seriously, he looks like a top 15 selection today.

  22. Denver Hawker

    Dugger with 42 vert and 11’2 broad- won’t make it out of R2

    • HawksGal

      Banging the drum for Dugger and Chin. I love Gladney too but Hawks won’t draft a CB with their first pick.

    • IHF

      He ran a 4.5 and 4.51. Thank goodness, maybe he’ll fall a bit.

  23. Davido

    I hope Duggers second 40 won’t be faster and we can get him with one of our second rounders.

  24. Rob Staton

    4.64 for Xavier McKinney.

    I’ve been saying it’d be in that range.

    Too much hype.

  25. drewdawg11

    Dugger ran 4.50. He probably has faster in him. I’m almost tempted to say this guy can play OLB for us and Pete can keep his base defense out there as much as he wants. Take he and Willie Gay Jr. and put the hurt on people. Blair/Diggs/Dugger in the nickel and Clowney plus Fowler pinning their ears back. Fun stuff.

    • Hawk Mock

      Like this idea

  26. Cameron

    Any safeties that look like possible Seahawk corners this year (a la Tre Flowers)?

    • Rob Staton

      Not yet.

      • Von

        What was Chinn’s arm length? I know he’s much heavier than most corners.

        • Rob Staton

          Chinn is a safety all day long.

  27. drewdawg11

    Chin: 32 1/8

  28. Trevor

    Wow Chinn is a pretty special athlete. Followed closely by Duggar. Anxious to see their agility numbers as well.

    I don’t think either guy ends up with the Hawks as we have far bigger needs to address early but I would love to see either guy in a Hawks uni.

  29. Bigtwn

    Still would love Winfield as a slot.

  30. Volume12

    That time for Winfield, jr is outstanding. Plays just like his dad.

    Good stuff from Terrell Burgess too. He’s offer some great versatility to some team.

  31. McZ

    Tanner Muse with an excellent 4.42, better than Earl Thomas while being 25 pds heavier.
    Here is what Lance Zierlein labelled him: “Slow-footed safety with hybrid linebacker tendencies.”

  32. Trevor

    If we had not taken Blair so early last year I would love the idea of taking Duggar or Chinn with one of the 2nd round picks. That being said they may go earlier than that anyways.

  33. Trevor

    Having watched that CB class today I think the Hawks best option to improve the secondary play next year is go out and sign a guy like Kendal Fuller to start in the slot. He could also move outside in an emergency and let Amadi continue to develop.

    • Coleslaw

      Rodney McLeod!

    • Rob Staton

      Probably too expensive

    • WALL UP

      Still have my hopes up for Amik Robertson. But, keep your eye on DET, and how they move on from Darius Slay. He offers a viable solution that will limit Flowers to ~70% of the snaps against #3 receivers, instead of Davante Adams, or Emmanuel Saunders, and the like.

      It should be interesting how they address the slot position though.

  34. Sea Mode

    Antoine Brooks has been really nice gauntlet.

    Chinn caught the ball well, but ran it slow.

  35. Kenny Sloth

    How y’all like Winfield Jr

    • Trevor

      He looks like a baller to me!

  36. WALL UP

    With all the attention focused on the WR class, and rightly so, the DB group will fair well in those reaching the 1st Rd.

    Jeff Okudah
    Grant Delpit
    CJ Henderson
    Trevon Diggs

    * possible late entries

    *Kyle Dugger
    *AJ Terrell

    This may push someone done into Rd 2. It’s also hard to imagine Jonathan Taylor not in the 1st Rd after his performance.

    Who would be of those that would slip out of the 1st? Perhaps a few WRs?

    • WALL UP

      “down into Rd 2”

  37. GoHawksDani

    Wow, Javelin Guidry 4.29 and 21 bench press…that is sick.
    Really raw and a bit small but maybe for slot in a later round?
    He’s smaller than Coleman but has same armlength and heavier. Run the 40 much faster and benched more. If he has good agility numbers I’d take him in the 4th/5th he’s an out of the box gunner maybe could return punts/kicks and an upside to coach him up and become a good nCB?

  38. Trevor

    This seems like a really weak draft class outside of OL and WR. The top 12 seem about set in some order. After that I think the real value in the draft is on Day #2 (Rounds 2-3). Then it seems to drop off a cliff unlike other years. I hope JS maneuvers to get as many picks as possible between 40-80.

    Top 12 in some order. Am I missing anyone?


    • Rob Staton

      I agree. The draft is top heavy then there’s value between 50-100.

  39. Aaron Bostrom

    I feel like Michael Pittman could be a sleeper pick. I know he doesn’t quite have the speed to extend the field like some of the other players, but he just seems like a winner. He has a large frame, great route runner, good hands, and surprising agility. I think he could surprise!

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