Feel free to use this as an open thread. I will post forty yard dash times here and any other testing numbers. At the end of the day I will post a review of the combine.
If you want a refresher on what to look out for at each position check out our massive combine preview.
Cornerbacks
Players with +32 inch arms have a star next to their name:
Damon Arnette — 4.57 & 4.57
Trajan Bandy — 4.50 & DNP
Essang Bassey — 4.46 & 4.51
Brian Cole — 4.53 & 4.56
Nevelle Clarke — DNP
Cam Dantzler — 4.64 & 4.65
Javaris Davis — 4.40 & 4.44
*Trevon Diggs — DNP
Kristian Fulton — 4.47 & 4.53
Jeff Gladney — 4.49 & 4.57
AJ Green — 4.63 & 4.71
Javelin Guidry — 4.30 & 4.30
*Bryce Hall — DNP
Harrison Hand — 4.53 & 4.52
CJ Henderson — 4.39 & 4.41
Lavert Hill — DNP
Darnay Holmes — 4.51 & 4.49
Noah Igbinoghene — 4.48 & 4.53
Dane Jackson — 4.60 & 4.57
*Lamar Jackson — 4.65 & 4.60
Jaylon Johnson — 4.51 & 4.54
*BoPete Keyes — DNP
*Micheal Ojemudia — 4.45 & 4.69
*Jeff Okudah — 4.48 & 4.50
James Pierre — 4.64 & 4.59
Troy Pride — 4.45 & 4.46
John Reid — 4.50 & 4.50
Amik Robertson — DNP
Reggie Robinson — 4.49 & 4.45
Stanford Samuels — 4.66 & 4.71
Josiah Scott — 4.42 & 4.45
AJ Terrell — 4.43 & 4.43
Stanley Thomas-Oliver — 4.50 & 4.49
*Kindle Vilor — 4.56 & 4.44
This is not a cornerback group for the Seahawks. There may be alternatives not working out at the combine but it’s hard to find an option among this collection.
If we exclude Jeff Okudah, only four players ran with +32 inch arms. Kindle Vilor lacks their preferred height while Michael Ojemudia is slight and Lamar Jackson lacks twitch and agility.
Safeties
Grayland Arnold — 4.59 & 4.67
Julian Blackmon — DNP
Antonie Brooks Jr — 4.64 & 4.64
Myles Bryant — 4.66 & 4.62
Terrell Burgess — 4.49 & 4.46
Shyheim Carter — DNP
Jeremy Chinn — 4.46 & 4.52
Rodney Clemons — 4.75 & 4.72
Kamren Curl — 4.62 & 4.61
Ashtyn Davis — DNP
Grant Delpit — DNP
Kyle Dugger — 4.50 & 4.51
Jalen Elliott — 4.81 & 4.82
Jordan Fuller — 4.67 & 4.68
Alohi Gilman — 4.67 & 4.68
Jaylinn Hawkins — DNP
Brandon Jones — DNP
Xavier McKinney — 4.64 & DNP
Josh Metellus — 4.59 & 4.56
Chris Miller — 4.65 & 4.62
Tanner Muse — 4.43 & 4.42
JR Reed — 4.55 & 4.55
L’Jarius Sneed — 4.38 & DNP
Geno Stone — 4.65 & 4.62
Daniel Thomas — 4.51 & 4.55
K’Von Wallace — 4.57 & 4.53
Antoine Winfield Jr — 4.48 & 4.46
You can now support Seahawks Draft Blog via Patreon by clicking the tab below.
Really watching Lamar Jackson closely today to see how he moves. I hope they show more of the drills today.
He’s a statue on tape so he’ll need a surprising showing here.
I view him as a 5-6th round guy at best maybe UDFA.
Scratch him off the watch list. He is a statue Rob.
I thought he might run a 4.70.
All the top guys not running is getting old. Funny thing is the top guys who have no question marks about speed always seem to have no problems running and competing. The guys who do have question mark now all feel like they don’t need to run and just wait till their pro day with less eyes and hand times instead of electronic.
Rob I remember you being really high on Henderson when the CFB season began. He looks like the perfect slot CB in todays NFL. He is going to shine today I imagine and that 40 was a good start.
Ideal slot. But will go early now.
Is it just me or do these times seem slow?
So far only Micheal Ojemudia seems to meet both the arm length and speed criteria.
Really like Pride (ND) as a Day #3 guy to come in and compete at the slot CB spot. He seemed like a really feisty competitor at the Senior Bowl and has good speed.
Rob, do you think there’s a chance that PC/JS coul pursue S A. Harris or CB B. Jones?
Jones will be way out of their price range. I don’t think they’ll pay top dollar for a 29-year-old safety with the options they already have there.
The resources have to be spent on the DL.
Indeed. And if they get even a middling pass rush, the DBs already on the roster will look 10% better just from having to cover for a shorter time period.
Let’s see what Jeremy Chinn does. So far so good.
41″ vert and 11’6″ broad.
Kyle Dugger with a 42″ vert and 11’2″ broad.
Chinn is some kind of physical specimen too. Good lord.
Wow
They are both really impressive small school guys. Physically they have all the tools to be really good.
Vilor and Ojemudua, two guys that are on the radar had time oddities between their runs: .24 seconds for Vilor and .14 for Ojedmudia.
Probably means (and will mean) nothing to the teams, I just find it odd (frustrating) when trying to determine what their true speed is and what range they will likely go.
Worth noting Vilor is smaller than their size threshold.
Rob- Where would you pull the trigger on Ojemudia?
I ask b/c with those times he might have vaulted himself into the 4th RD, and that’s usually a round earlier than they like to strike with their type of guys. (Yes, I say this realizing there are exceptions in Thurmond, Griffin and Amadi).
I haven’t watched him at all. Didn’t really think he looked like a Seahawks corner based on the eye test in shorts.
Rob, Ojemudia feels more like Byron Maxwell than he does Tre Flowers or Brandon Browner. And that’s not a bad thing. I like his effort in run support a lot and can make plays on the ball. Seems like a guy to take a shot on in the round 4-5 range to push Tre Flowers (he plays the RCB position).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cubqV5yTL4M
Any safeties going today who may be considered corner converts?
Jeremy Chin depending on how he runs. Great size and explosiveness.
CB is not must, but we need good backup on both spot. They might trade or look in FA. Not sure King and Thorpe is option as backup
Hawks have how many picks in this draft? A dozen or so, right? I don’t see a dozen guys that they’d want to pick. Gonna need to hit that trade market real hard to find a championship team for 2020.
8 picks at the moment
Good to know, thanks Von!
Gonna be some highly intriguing pro days this year.
The Seahawks most recent “good” slot CB, Justin Coleman MIGHT be a “blueprint” of what they seek at slot CB? #’s For purposes of comparison to (maybe a few?) players in this draft, per mockdraftable.com.
CB-Justin Coleman, Tennessee, 2015 draft. (He put up some “nearly elite” #’s)
5′-11″, 185-lbs, 31-1/4″-arms, 9-3/8″-hands, 4.53/40, 1.42-10 yd. split, 37-1/2″-VERT, 10′-4″-Broad jump, 6.61-3 cone, 3.98-20 yd shuttle, 11.21-60 yd shuttle, & 20-Reps on the bench.
Jeff Gladney looks really good. Most underrated corner this year for me.
Kristian Fulton too. 4.47 is an excellent time for him.
I really like Gladney too. He looks like a top 50 guy to me.
Did Okudah get hurt?
Really think that either Jonathan Taylor or a OT are the only options at #27. Maybe we are lucky and Delpit falls…
Really wanna see Marlon Davidson’s Auburn pro day.
Davidson: I love most about the game is that I can literally go out there and hit a man consistently and pound him and the police not come. That is the most enjoyable moment about ball. To go out there and really abuse somebody.
Davidson: Can’t tell people your a dog. You gotta go out and show it.
He has some EDGE like traits too. His bend is pretty incredible for a 300 lber. And then you see plays like this…
https://twitter.com/i/status/1233408143369129984
Dude is different. He’s gonna outwork a lot of people.
He’s such a dog that Auburn took him out for running downs.
When?
2019 games.
Watch them — he was spelled a lot.
Per Lance Zierlein’s report:
This dog is all bark and no bite. Telling everyone he’s a dog. Plays half the run downs.
I have. Didn’t see anything unusual at all. Florida, Oregon, Minnesota, the ‘Bama game he’s cleary hurt as when he does come back in he’s limping.
Stats don’t lie though. He only played 51% of their run downs. I watched a game two weeks ago (full game to watch the Prince) and noticed him off the field a lot.
Schefter reports Conklin not necessarily to the Jets once FA opens.
So while the legal tampering period won’t be open for a couple weeks, the illegal tampering period appears wide open LOL.
I love me some Darnay Holmes. His arms are short, though. I wonder if they’d be willing to overlook that and put him in the slot. He’s such a tough, aggressive playmaker on defense. He doesn’t back down from anyone. Great ball skills. Would love to see his other testing numbers. Around 4.5 like I thought. All I know is he’s been an alpha since his peewee days.
I really liked the way he competed in Sr. Bowl 1v1s, but did kind of cross him off due to arm length.
Dang it, forgot it started earlier today.
Wow, Henderson looked silky smooth and fluid turning his hips.
Eager to get the agility testing results.
Henderson has made himself some cash! He’s the polar opposite of AJ Epenesa. Seriously, he looks like a top 15 selection today.
Dugger with 42 vert and 11’2 broad- won’t make it out of R2
Banging the drum for Dugger and Chin. I love Gladney too but Hawks won’t draft a CB with their first pick.
He ran a 4.5 and 4.51. Thank goodness, maybe he’ll fall a bit.
I hope Duggers second 40 won’t be faster and we can get him with one of our second rounders.
4.64 for Xavier McKinney.
I’ve been saying it’d be in that range.
Too much hype.
Dugger ran 4.50. He probably has faster in him. I’m almost tempted to say this guy can play OLB for us and Pete can keep his base defense out there as much as he wants. Take he and Willie Gay Jr. and put the hurt on people. Blair/Diggs/Dugger in the nickel and Clowney plus Fowler pinning their ears back. Fun stuff.
Like this idea
Any safeties that look like possible Seahawk corners this year (a la Tre Flowers)?
Not yet.
What was Chinn’s arm length? I know he’s much heavier than most corners.
Chinn is a safety all day long.
Chin: 32 1/8
Wow Chinn is a pretty special athlete. Followed closely by Duggar. Anxious to see their agility numbers as well.
I don’t think either guy ends up with the Hawks as we have far bigger needs to address early but I would love to see either guy in a Hawks uni.
Still would love Winfield as a slot.
That time for Winfield, jr is outstanding. Plays just like his dad.
Good stuff from Terrell Burgess too. He’s offer some great versatility to some team.
Tanner Muse with an excellent 4.42, better than Earl Thomas while being 25 pds heavier.
Here is what Lance Zierlein labelled him: “Slow-footed safety with hybrid linebacker tendencies.”
If we had not taken Blair so early last year I would love the idea of taking Duggar or Chinn with one of the 2nd round picks. That being said they may go earlier than that anyways.
Having watched that CB class today I think the Hawks best option to improve the secondary play next year is go out and sign a guy like Kendal Fuller to start in the slot. He could also move outside in an emergency and let Amadi continue to develop.
Rodney McLeod!
Probably too expensive
Still have my hopes up for Amik Robertson. But, keep your eye on DET, and how they move on from Darius Slay. He offers a viable solution that will limit Flowers to ~70% of the snaps against #3 receivers, instead of Davante Adams, or Emmanuel Saunders, and the like.
It should be interesting how they address the slot position though.
Antoine Brooks has been really nice gauntlet.
Chinn caught the ball well, but ran it slow.
How y’all like Winfield Jr
He looks like a baller to me!
With all the attention focused on the WR class, and rightly so, the DB group will fair well in those reaching the 1st Rd.
Jeff Okudah
Grant Delpit
CJ Henderson
Trevon Diggs
* possible late entries
*Kyle Dugger
*AJ Terrell
This may push someone done into Rd 2. It’s also hard to imagine Jonathan Taylor not in the 1st Rd after his performance.
Who would be of those that would slip out of the 1st? Perhaps a few WRs?
“down into Rd 2”
Wow, Javelin Guidry 4.29 and 21 bench press…that is sick.
Really raw and a bit small but maybe for slot in a later round?
He’s smaller than Coleman but has same armlength and heavier. Run the 40 much faster and benched more. If he has good agility numbers I’d take him in the 4th/5th he’s an out of the box gunner maybe could return punts/kicks and an upside to coach him up and become a good nCB?
This seems like a really weak draft class outside of OL and WR. The top 12 seem about set in some order. After that I think the real value in the draft is on Day #2 (Rounds 2-3). Then it seems to drop off a cliff unlike other years. I hope JS maneuvers to get as many picks as possible between 40-80.
Top 12 in some order. Am I missing anyone?
Burrow
Tua
Herbert
Odukah
Simmons
Brown
Kinlaw
Becton
Wirfs
Willis
Thomas
Jeudy
I agree. The draft is top heavy then there’s value between 50-100.
I feel like Michael Pittman could be a sleeper pick. I know he doesn’t quite have the speed to extend the field like some of the other players, but he just seems like a winner. He has a large frame, great route runner, good hands, and surprising agility. I think he could surprise!