2020 mock draft #4: Seahawks target Cesar Ruiz

Michigan center Cesar Ruiz is highly impressive

The objective of these mocks is always to run through different scenario’s.

#1 Cincinnati — Joe Burrow (QB, LSU)
The performance against Alabama confirmed he’s the best quarterback in college football.

#2 New York Giants — Chase Young (EDGE, Ohio State)
In nine games he has 16.5 sacks and 19.5 TFL’s.

#3 Miami — Andrew Thomas (T, Georgia)
Supremely balanced and consistent, his footwork is superb and he anchors brilliantly.

#4 Washington — Jeff Okudah (CB, Ohio State)
He will destroy the combine and was a 142.56 athlete at SPARQ.

#5 Denver — Jerry Jeudy (WR, Alabama)
Jeudy is extremely consistent, athletic and pro-ready.

#6 Atlanta — Grant Delpit (S, LSU)
He’s legit but he’s played hurt for most of the season.

#7 Detroit — Derrick Brown (DT, Auburn)
A tone-setting defensive lineman with the stoutness and quickness.

#8 Arizona — CeeDee Lamb (WR, Oklahoma)
Kyler Murray is reunited with his favourite target.

#9 Jacksonville — Isaiah Simmons (S, Clemson)
Reportedly he can jump a 40-inch vertical, an 11-0 broad and run in the 4.4’s.

#10 New York Jets — Trevon Diggs (CB, Alabama)
Competitive cornerback who does an excellent job tracking the ball and breaking up passes. Stefon Diggs’ brother.

#11 LA Chargers — Isaiah Wilson (T, Georgia)
He’s highly underrated and for me the second best tackle eligible for 2020.

#12 Tampa Bay — Javon Kinlaw (DT, South Carolina)
He’s +300lbs but carries minimal body fat. He dominated Alabama’s O-line a few weeks ago.

#13 Philadelphia — Jalen Reagor (WR, TCU)
Raegor reportedly runs a 4.29. He also jumped a 38.5 inch vertical and can squat 620lbs.

#14 Miami (v/OAK, CHI) — Tua Tagovailoa (QB, Alabama)
The Dolphins jump above several QB-needy teams to take a chance on Tua.

#15 Cleveland — Prince Tega Wanogho (T, Auburn)
Huge, physical and athletic but destined to play right tackle in the NFL.

#16 Carolina — Henry Ruggs (WR, Alabama)
Ruggs reportedly runs in the 4.2’s and has excellent catching technique.

#17 Oakland — Shaun Wade (CB, Ohio State)
A former 5-star recruit who’s playing exceptionally well.

#18 Indianapolis — Raekwon Davis (DT, Alabama)
He can anchor the interior of a defensive line for years to come.

#19 Tennessee — KJ Hamler (WR, Penn State)
Not their biggest need but Hamler is just too dynamic to pass up.

#20 Jacksonville (v/LAR) — Kristian Fulton (CB, LSU)
A physical cornerback who tracks the ball almost as well as Trevon Diggs.

#21 Dallas — Laviska Shenault (WR, Colorado)
We’ve not seen him anywhere near his best so far but he’s a swiss-army knife who can score points as a runner, receiver or returner.

#22 Oakland (v/MIA) — Dylan Moses (LB, Alabama)
Would be a top-10 pick had he not tore his ACL.

#23 Kansas City — Kenneth Murray (LB, Oklahoma)
Incredibly quick and physical — helps set a tone.

#24 Minnesota — DeVonta Smith (WR, Alabama)
Extremely underrated and very dynamic.

#25 Miami (v/HOU) — D’Andre Swift (RB, Georgia)
Productive and shifty — his combine will determine how early he goes.

#26 Buffalo — Walker Little (T, Stanford)
Ran a 4.40 short shuttle at SPARQ and scored an overall 107.25 (the top score by an offensive lineman in 2016).

#27 Washington (v/GB) — Alex Leatherwood (T, Alabama)
After trading Trent Williams, the Redskins do what they always do and draft a player from Alabama.

#28 Seattle — Cesar Ruiz (C, Michigan)
Tough and leading the charge for Michigan. 97.92 SPARQ tester (#1 for center’s in 2017).

#29 Baltimore — Tyler Biadasz (C, Wisconsin)
He loses balance/control at times but he’s physical and solid.

#30 New Orleans — Justin Herbert (QB, Oregon)
Better quarterbacks have dropped into this range.

#31 San Francisco — Tyler Johnson (WR, Minnesota)
Testing is key but Johnson has played so well in 2019 and could be coveted.

#32 New England — Austin Jackson (T, USC)
The Pats are not afraid to take a chance on O-line upside.

The trades explained…

Miami trades #22 to Oakland for #14
It’s impossible to say with any confidence what’ll happen with Tua Tagovailoa but it’s possible he will fall a bit and then someone will make a move to get him.

Green Bay trades #27 to Washington for Trent Williams
The Redskins will trade Trent Williams at some point. The Packers were physically hammered by the 49ers and that performance might linger into the off-season. Green Bay has a move pro-active front-office these days and Aaron Rodgers turns 36 next week. They need to help him as much as possible.

Seattle’s pick explained…

In this scenario the top receivers are off the board. I think it’s very realistic we’ll see a big run on wide outs early. They’re all good enough and aside from Jerry Jeudy and Ceedee Lamb, all underrated. Receiver might not be a hot suggestion among Seahawks fans yet this team has consistently tapped into the ‘strength’ of a class and in 2020 that’s receiver. They will never have ‘too much’ support for Wilson either. They need a tight end this off-season and, if possible, another dynamic receiver. If Germain Ifedi and George Fant depart, right tackle also becomes a striking need.

The pass rush is going to need to be addressed in free agency or via trade. This is not a good D-line class. They’ll almost certainly be preparing to pay Jadeveon Clowney. They might need to make another big splash to properly support him and it’s also possible they’ll seek to retain Jarran Reed.

This will clearly cost money. Keeping Clowney and Reed then adding someone like Dante Fowler or Everson Griffen might not be possible. If they want to make moves like this they’ll need cap space. They’re currently projected to have about $65-70m. To spend big on the D-line they might need even more.

Cutting Justin Britt would save just under $9m in cap space. That’s a big chunk. Ideally they would keep Britt. His knee injury this season has come at a bad time for player and team. Now they have a choice to make. Do you keep him with a near $12m cap hit in 2020? Or do you part ways — albeit grudgingly — and then use the money to help your D-line?

This is a decent draft for center’s with Michigan’s Cesar Ruiz, Washington’s Nick Harris and Wisconsin’s Tyler Biadasz all possible early-round options. I projected Ruiz here after watching him closely for the first time against Indiana. He anchors Michigan’s line and looks the part. At SPARQ he managed a 97.92 score at 321lbs which is no mean feat. He was the top tester at the center position in 2017 and has explosive qualities. Plus we know Carroll and Schneider like their Michigan guys.

Of course they could retain Britt or cut him and go a different route. He could be re-signed at a cheaper price. They could go for a veteran like Alex Mack (who’s expected to be cut in the off-season). They could re-sign Joey Hunt and let him compete with Ethan Pocic (although I wouldn’t expect that to be likely).

In this mock I have them replacing Britt with Ruiz and using his salary to really get the pass rush rolling for 2020.

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  1. Volume12

    Would be a good pick.

    If all these receivers are off the board I hope Seattle takes a good hard look at Aizona St. WR Brandon Aiyuk. So incredibly explosive, he’s a returner, great versatility. Has Golden Tate like potential.

    He’s really grown on me as the season has gone on. Especially after Saturday night.

    • Rob Staton

      Aiyuk has a lot of potential for sure.

    • Kenny Sloth


      • DC

        🌵 Can never turn your back on the Scumdevils in the desert 🌵

        • Kenny Sloth

          That shit had trap game etched into it.

          Every time I fall asleep midgame we allow a comeback

          Ole Aflack headasses

          • mishima

            Overrated teams always talk about ‘trap’ games.


  2. Denver Hawker


    Where are you seeing the true R1 grade drop off? Will be interesting to see how QBs go. The early run on WR would be a bummer, but could see another trade back into early R2 to still get a Center.

    Tough go for Britt. I think strong chance he’s cut and Hawks try to sign a 1 or 2 year deal at $6-8mm. He’ll have a tough market coming off the injury, but proven average to above average and solid contributor. That said, I’m on board with giving his money to Ifedi.

    • Rob Staton

      I’m not going to put a firm number on it yet but my early projection would be that there are significantly more ‘first round’ graded types this year than recent drafts.

      • Denver Hawker

        Have a feeling a WR or OL talent that we like on this blog will be available with their pick, and per usual, they’ll trade back.

  3. Paul Cook

    Sexy first pick there for the Hawks, Rob. :0 Wasn’t Spencer the last time we picked a center in the first round? I have a hard time envisioning them picking a center at #1, but what do I know. Haven’t focused on him hardly at all, so I’ll take your word for it in regards to his talent.

    By the way, you don’t seem to rank that Penn State edge vary high as others do. What’s your take on him?

    I have my lists of personal favorites for us in round one. You got me a little hooked on WR, and from what I’ve seen of many of them, it looks juicy.

    But I’d be fine with OL, DL, WR, or possibly CB if any talent warrants the selection where we end up.

    • Rob Staton

      I have talked a lot about Yetur Gross-Matos to be fair — I think his hand technique is good and he has moments where he really flashes. He’s not consistent enough though. He has stretches of games where you don’t notice him. He’s an upside type who might need time and further development. I have a hard time putting him in the first round for that reason. Although if he tests well teams might be more willing to take a chance early.

      • Paul Cook

        Thanks. The last time I watched Penn State play a whole game, I didn’t notice him much either. I’d have to look at more tape to see what others have that I read.

        • Bigten

          He played pretty well against Ohio state this last week. Was the most disruptive I’d seen him. Kind of think of him as a Rasheem green type, lots of potential. My biggest eye test takeaway is he doesn’t seem to have a fire. No excitement. Relies on size and athleticism and may be lazy/soft. But just a brief first take that may be completely inaccurate haha

          • Tecmo Bowl

            “My biggest eye test takeaway is he doesn’t seem to have a fire.”

            Agreed. Passion for the game cannot be taught.

            It feels like post the ‘Malik Mcdowell fiasco’ JS/PC have stayed away from drafting players with questionable passion or fire. Thankfully!

  4. Jordan

    I have to agree with this pick. I think the front office has had its share of bad o-line years and would like to continue to have top notch talent on the roster. Defensively i think they may double down, but what do i know. Will be interesting to see the direction of this next draft. The hawks need to get more physical with their draft picks. The ravens-rams game last night was the exact blue print PC has wanted to play.

  5. charlietheunicorn

    Does anyone have a read on the current OL coach and recently acquired prospects compared to the Cable guys?

    They tend to take guys who are bigger and more powerful for the OGs (brought in veterans). I’m pretty sure Iupati goose is cooked. He just hasn’t been as good as they need him to be…

    I would much rather bring in a sure fire starter at center, then try to go the Hunt/Pocic/acquisition throw crap at wall and hope it sticks route. I would give Britt the first shot, if his recovery is on schedule, but picking a C or OG in the first round would not be a bad place to spend draft capitol. Then with one of the 2nd round picks, you find the WR you like that fits the offense and roll.

    • Rob Staton

      I think Iupati has been a very good addition. Can’t fault him at all. A cheap, veteran signing who has done a decent job.

  6. John_s

    Watching Hunt get knocked on his butt by DJ Jones and Fletcher Cox in consecutive weeks makes me question Hunts long term potential. I like the pick of Ruiz especially if Britt is cut to gain extra cap space. Even if Britt is on the team it would be nice to have Ruiz for the year after

    • TomLPDX

      I know, I’ve really been rooting for Joey all year but he is just to darned small against these big defense guys. He is a smart player and I hope he plays well enough to stick with Seattle next year but we need a center that can anchor the line for the next 10 years so Russ can optimize his time here. If that means Ruiz is the guy or whoever, then so be it.

  7. RWIII

    It does make sense to cut Britt and then try and resign him at a lower rate. With Alex Mack on the market and a number of good center prospects in the draft. Britt might not get what he is looking for on the open market. I am a OL/DL type of guy. Give me pile driver on the OL any day of the week.

    The premium position on the DL is pass rusher. If the Hawks do resign Clowney it will be interesting to see what they do with the other DE slot. Here is the kicker. Ziggy Ansah had his best game of the year in Philadelphia. Rasheem Green had a good game on Sunday. And Shaquem Griffin had a nice play on defense. Griffin’s best hope is a backup DE/special teams player. It will be really interesting to see how Ziggy/Green play the rest of the year.

    • Rob Staton

      They have to add another good, proven DE in the off-season. Regardless of what happens the rest of the way.

    • Jamho3

      RWIII, SEA seems to have done a really nice job with our DL we like almost all of our guys, but none the less. We currently dont have enough P-Rush, & our best 2 are both in their prime UFA’s so we’ve got to address P-Rush seriously going forward.

  8. Coleslaw

    I love this piece, Rob. I agree with everything you said.

    I’m leaning towards cutting Britt, keeping Ifedi and Fant, and signing Ngakoue (hopefully) or Fowler. Clowney mand Ngakoue with our DTs plus an early 2020 draft pick at DL and we should be pretty good. Especially with Rasheem Green and eventually L.J. Collier.

    DL, IOL, WR, TE

    • TomLPDX

      Are we cutting Britt or asking him to take a lower salary?

      • Jamh03

        We need to know what we have in Pocic to plan appropriately.

        • Rob Staton

          Do we??

          • Greg Haugsven

            They could even look to extend Britt which could significantly lower his cap hit for next year. They have the advantage over other teams as they can monitor his progress in rehab. Maybe extend him for two years with not a lot of guaranteed money? The ACL tear was early enough in the season where he could be ready by training camp. Just another thought.

            • charlietheunicorn

              The injury could take between 9mo and 1 y to recover… and he might not be up to 100% until 18 months after the injury. He would likely not be ready at the beginning of the 2020 season to play.. or at least count on to play. He might even retire, you never know.

              I think mocking a center early to Seattle is a good call by Rob.

              • Greg Haugsven

                Not disagreeing with you, just giving alternative options.Sometimes we need to remember that these discussions are mostly opinion and not fact so no one is right and no one is wrong.

          • Jamho3

            Do we have to define what Pocic is to move forward?

            Of course not. I hate talking in those generally nebulous terms but it’s what works for many so sometimes I do it. Also responding from the fire TV much different than from the desktop.

            If SEA didn’t project Pocic accurately and he was better than they thought. He’s still young still flexible, can play multiple positions still under team control. All that.

            Having too much talent is rarely an issue. If a good player sits or the team is too deep that’s not much of a problem.

            The impact of knowing where SEA is at or expects from Pocic is that it would allow SEA to play things as close as possible. With all of the OTHER decisions that need to be made.

            Which 100% matters when you have 2 of your top 3 DL players unsigned. A need at pass rush aside from those 2.

            And as is nearly every other player out of your starting 5 and first 2 back-ups on OL projects to be worse or incredibly expensive.

            And I think that where the team projects Pocic will be an issue with so many OL positions in decline.

            If everything were to remain nearly the same on SEA’s OL in 2020 SEA would expect only Ifedi to be better than he was in 2019.

            So the way I look at things Pocics likely contributions are absolutely important. Which is why I asked earlier.

          • LLLOGOSSS

            Sure would be nice…

  9. charlietheunicorn

    Hoping for 1 more former Seahawks to make the HoF this year

    Steve Hutchinson, Guard
    2001-05 Seattle Seahawks
    2006-2011 Minnesota Vikings
    2012 Tennessee Titans
    (Times as a Semifinalist: 3 — 2018-2020)

  10. Josh emmett

    Love picks for the trenches in the first couple rounds!

  11. Bigten

    Like the center pick.
    What are you thoughts on where antione Winfield ranges? Would love to add him in the third possibly.

  12. Zxvo3

    Rob, I know you might be switching it up, as you don’t want all your mocks having the Seahawks picking a WR in the first rounds, but don’t you think they would use one of their second round picks to get a center? Or do you not think that some of these centers would last into the second round?

    • drewdawg11

      I haven’t had a chance to watch this center from Michigan closely, but one thing I can honestly say is that a buddy and I have had some conversation about saving cap space by cutting Britt. We have also talked about how inadequate Joey hunt is and how surprising it’s been that they’ve kept him around. I get that he’s cheap, but he’s never been good enough to step in for any amount of time. As for Nic Harris… I’m about as pro husky as it gets. I’ve watched every one of his games. Most of them twice. In these four years he’s gotten heavier, not necessarily all good weight. I wouldn’t be shocked if his arm length was on the lower end of all of the interior line prospects. He’s not going to test very explosively. He still struggles with power. He’s dinged up constantly, and he’s not a dominant force. He really shouldn’t be a consideration in the first 3 rounds of the draft. If they were to target a center in this draft, I don’t think they’d resist trading down a bit to justify the pick.

    • Rob Staton

      They might do — but I have the top two going late R1 here. And a lot of the top WR’s are gone.

  13. Donovan

    Always enjoy the food for thought.

    The last two years the Hawks have known a position they wanted to address with their first pick, both borne out of need. First, re-establish the run (Penny). Second, replace Frank Clark (Collier).

    I don’t think they have a glaring need, as of now. (Except perhaps edge rusher, of which you say there’s not a lot of top end talent in this draft.) So hopefully that leads to just taking the best player available. And with so many picks, perhaps this will be the rate year they use some of that capital to go up and grab someone they really like?

  14. Greg Haugsven

    I would have no issue with them picking a guy like Ruiz but doesnt this go against your thoughts of not having young offensive lineman?

    • DC

      It’s not that they have a goal of no young linemen, just more of a healthy mix. Old salts leading the way as the young guys learn & come of age. They’re not going to have a 3rd year player as the senior starter on the line ever again. (My memory might be off)
      A great Center can change the complexion of an offense with their protection recognition. Unger made Russ’ job way easier for example. I’d be a fan of the pick.

      • Greg Haugsven

        I agree with that, I suggested we may have to draft a right tackle if Ifedi does indeed leave and was told that we would just sign a vet. How is this any different?

  15. Kenny Sloth

    More than half of that first round is SEC players.

  16. Adog

    Gonna be hard to justify taking a center in the first round …when win win the Superbowl with Joey jabba the hunt!

    • Rob Staton

      Not if Britt departs and Hunt is actually a free agent this off-season.

      Plus, if they win a Super Bowl with this team there are still areas where they can improve.

  17. Georgia Hawk

    Love the mock Rob. I enjoy seeing a bunch of different scenarios in your mocks that aren’t a copy paste with teams in different slots as the year goes on.

    I think the Wild card this year is going to be QBs, both in terms of who comes out (Tua?) and in terms of what teams feel the need to go after one early. The usual suspects all could draft one early; Cincy, Miami. Then there are the teams with QBs that are aging out really quickly and could look to draft one early: SD, NE, Pitt (albeit with no 1st rounder that is tough). Then there are the wild card teams that it wouldnt shock me a bit to see them go after one early: TB, Tenn (pending what they do with Tannenhill), Denver, and Washington.

    If any of them start reaching if someone like Herbert falls into the late teens/early twenties, or another team wants to reach for someone like Fromm or Hurts, it could push a really special player down to where the Hawks are picking.

    With the ammo we have this is going to be a really fun draft season!

  18. Troy

    Whenever you can be in a position to grab the first/best player at a position of need in a draft, that seems like a good choice. And grabbing the first center off the board when Britts future is murky at best due to his injury/salary seems like a great choice. If they end up getting dline help in free agency and pick a center first, how do you envision the Seahawks spending their two second round picks Rob? I have to imagine TE/WR/speed on defense would be a priority.

    • Rob Staton

      I would agree

    • Nick

      Agreed. More than that, though, keeping the payroll relatively low for O-line going forward should be a priority—and this draftpick would achieve that for sure.

  19. Tony

    I like the pick. I can see them cutting or restructuring britt while he rehabs. This is a solid end of round pick. Let hunt/pocic battle for backup/starter while britt recovers. Let the rookie earn starting. If pass rush falls then I prefer that or if one of the ridiculous wrs makes it to us. But building the lines should be high priority always.

  20. Frank

    Another well thought out article, I love it here lol. It’s hard to imagine a scenario where the Hawks fully cut Britt, but if they did I would suspect them to try Haynes or Pioic in that place first. Hunt is a good teammate and intelligent, just doesn’t have the prerequisite anchor unfortunately to be in consideration for a starting role, and think he end up back with the Hawks on something close to a vet minimum after testing his market. I don’t have a problem with any of the picks but a few caught my eye.
    Prince only being 4 picks behind Wilson seems a little rich to me considering the perceived gap between the top two Tackles and the rest of the class, and I can’t imagine a scenario where Gross Matos is available and the Hawks don’t snag him if his combine number are good to elite. I’m interested in Chase Young and what the combine does to his projection, if he absolutely stinks up the combine how far could he potentially fall, and does it push the rest of the edge class up or down if he drops a Polite type performance at the combine minus the horrible interviews?
    I’m not anti Wr in the draft, it just seems like we drafted three receivers last year, and don’t necessarily have a need at the position compared to Edge, Te, LBer, nickel or guard. Free agency will change the landscape, but I seriously hope we retain Clowney, Reed, Ifedi and Britt so that the focus can be on improving weaknesses. If I had to lose one of those four it would be Britt unfortunately because it’s easier to replace. I wouldn’t over pay for Fant, but it would be nice to keep as much continuity on the Tackle and center spots, to be able to focus on getting a little younger/healthier at Guard. Ansah, KJ, Fluker, and Iupati all seem like they are past being functional starters, and the jury is still out on Flash Gordon. Replacing Ansah has got to be the highest priority in the draft, even if that meant trading our first pick outright for an established Vet at edge who isn’t nearing retirement.

    • Rob Staton

      What I’d say about the WR position is… Wilson is the absolute heart of the team. At the moment he was one clear, consistent weapon (Lockett), a TE who has had two serious injuries (Dissly) and a highly athletic, big potential but inconsistent target (Metcalf). Those are your contracted, somewhat established ‘weapons’. The rest is a lot of unknowns or average. It’s imperative Wilson is as supported as possible.

      And of the WR’s they drafted this year… one is no longer with the team and another is a R7 who is inactive every week.

      • Frank

        I definitely agree with everything you said, even if I think Ursula has the potential to contribute and haven’t given up on Flash yet. I more question the positional value of draft picks, it seems to just be an excepted fact that unless you have a top ten pick in the draft you can’t get a QB, Edge, or CB in the last few years. The Hawks have managed to beat the system with a 3rd round QB, a coach that can develop CB to play at an elite lvl, and a masterful trade for a 1st overall pick in Clowney. With Clowney recking havok on one side of the line, I don’t think you need a Bosa on the other side but still need someone who can take advantage of the opportunities a Clowney creates. Part of the problem to me stems from the fact that WR and edge players rarely contribute year one, so a pick in those positions unless a top half of round 1 is a pick for future years. I feel like your more likely to find a wr in rounds 2-7 than you are an edge player who can contribute to develop. The Hawks have thrown plenty of draft capital at the 5 tech, but the cupboard is barren at Leo.

  21. EranUngar

    A center with size and high SPARQ grade to add youth and save cap would be great to have.

    However, this WR class sound too good to pass on and RW needs that 3rd weapon. 7 WRs in the top 25 sounds unlikely and I’m inclined to take Paulin’s view on that.

    However, if those guy are just that good and gone in the top 25 and with the amount of picks we have, why not use a 2nd or 3rd round pick to move up and get one?

    • Rob Staton

      A year ago people said I was putting too many DL’s in R1. Then 10 went in Top-20 and 13 in round one overall.

      • EranUngar

        Yes, so very true. I stand corrected, totally skipped my mind…

  22. Matt

    I actually love this pick. Late R1 seems to be a really great spot for Centers. It’s a huge added bonus that cutting Britt would save $. This pick seems like a great marriage of getting good talent, at a position of need, that is moderately a safe pick.

    The next 2 picks, I’m being very aggressive targeting a pass catcher and speed on defense. I think this is the right year to “go get your guy” at WR. I know we’ve been hard on DK, but I think DK will end up being a really good player in the right role, we just need Lockett insurance and the great part is that said “insurance policy” can play a whole lot in 3 WR sets. Whether it’s realistic or not; my eye is on Ruggs, Reagor, Smith, Aiyuk, Tyler Johnson.

    Perhaps the play is to draft WR in R1 and potentially trade up for Ruiz? I don’t know, but that 2nd second round pick gives us awesome flexibility.

    • jj

      Trade back and then a trade up in the 2nd. Standard operating procedure for Schneider.

  23. cha



    • Volume12

      I adore Mina Kimes. Her laugh is so damn contagious.

      • cha

        I crack up at her video of screaming when the Hawks announced DK Metcalf as their pick.

        • Volume12

          Also has tremendous banter on the Dan Le Betard show.

  24. cha

    Rob 2 Q’s

    1-what made you take Ruiz over Biadasz ? (I know nothing of either, just trying to get a handle on their profile)

    2-are you backing off the idea of veterans vs youth on the OL? Or are you saying you think Ruiz is good enough to be an exception to that general OL building philosophy? If not, I’m guessing you would think the Hawks would want to stopgap a veteran C like Pocic or Hunt for a season while Ruiz breaks in?

    • Rob Staton

      1. I prefer Ruiz. Biadasz leans a lot and can lose balance as a consequence. Riaz more complete for me.

      2. I’m just looking at different scenarios. I don’t think they’re very likely to spend a high pick on a tackle unless Isaiah Wilson lands in their laps. I think they’ve been down that road too often before and will want experience at that position. At center, especially with a player like Ruiz, I think it’s palatable.

      • cha

        OK thanks. ‘Palatable’ is a good word. I can definitely see a scenario where the Hawks go C if as you mocked, those WRs are gone. And he would help RW and the offense through his 3rd contract for sure.

        And as an added bonus, the Seahawks commetariat would go crazy for not picking a sexy position in the first round.

    • McZ

      That veteran philosophy in itself is not delivering a better produce than 2016-17. But it allows to let rookies learn behind the older guys, and this will improve the OL as a unit as we move along. It’s the same logic as Eagles and Ravens are using, and it works.

      They need to ‘next up’ the two players on the depth chart… Jamarco Jones and Phil Haynes. And add new depth behind those players.

      The logic behind the Ruiz pick is sound because of Britt, and we don’t really have a solution beyond some magical Pocic turnaround.

  25. WALL UP

    A restructured deal for Britt should not be out of the question, if his reconstructive surgery goes well. Just a side note, Dipoto may have made (3) key FA additions to their 40 man roster, on the pitching staff.

  26. McZ

    I’m 100% sure, they will go to the trenches with their first three picks.

    In this case, I’m not convinced Ruiz is a first round pick.

    In this scenario, they could wait out for early R2, taking Epenesa or Okwara for solid speed off the edge, trade slighly up to take Nick Harris middle R2, while having another second rounder to take Calvin Throckmorton.

    Middle R3, we should shut up and flatout draft Bradlee Anae. With DL and OL fixed, we could move to the skill positions without overpaying.

    Jace Whittaker, CB, Arizona should be there R5, even R6.
    In R4 or 5, Jared Hilbers could deliver another depth pick and hedge at OT.
    There are lots and lots of workable RB and WR targets for R3-6, and even UDFA will offer decent options.

    • Rob Staton

      Saying you’re 100% sure about the draft in November, weeks before the regular season has even finished, is silly.

      • jj

        Rob, you are wrong. This is exactly how it is going to play out. Mcz has decreed it

        • Rob Staton

          My bad

    • Matt

      3 Trench Picks with the top 3 picks would be a very bad idea considering this DE class is not very good. Also, the club seems high on Phil Haynes and you still have Ethan Pocic…I think expending high end draft capital for a depth IOL pick (not a center) is a really poor use of resources especially when you consider this team is desperate for WR and TE help.

      RW needs help. We are a Tyler Lockett injury away from handcuffing the passing game like no other. I love Dissly but we can’t rely on him for 16 games a year.

      We will have to agree to disagree on 3 trench picks.

      • Dale Roberts

        We have some pretty desperate needs on the o-line. Brown is having one of the worst years of his career, Iupati is old and injury prone, Britt is injured and expensive, who knows what Fluker’s injury status will be, are we going to pay Ifedi a lot of money, George Fant is an UFA, Hunt is undersized and a UFA, Demarco Jones was exposed, Haynes is utterly unproven, and Pocic even when injury free isn’t really built for this offense. There isn’t a single player on the offensive line that I feel like, “we gotta keep this guy”.

        I’ll have to disagree on the Lockett/Dissly comments. Any team will get hurt when they lose their clear number one receiver. I believe with Metcalf, Gordon, and Turner we would still be in decent shape. I’m also excited to see what Ursua can bring. Dissly has just had tough luck. Their are any number of pros whose careers began with tough injuries but went on to be reliable pros over a long career.

      • McZ

        This is a misconception. The TOP NOTCH talent at DE isn’t there. But after,#25, we have the obvious talent cliff, and things are getting more into perspective. If we get Epenesa or Okwara for a 2nd rounder (which Rob’s mock suggests), this would be a steal.

        Taking Harris in R2 (which is also suggested by this mock) would add a player who is not that much worse than Ruiz.

        That Throckmorton has more snaps at almost any position of the line than most specialists, and that he is a solid RT makes him a no brainer.

        I expect the need at OL to grow over the postseason. If we have a little bad luck, we are down to one starter, and that’s Fluker, who is technically a half starter. I don’t think, they will or can go on a 40m spending spree; we also have the second most experienced OL playing #19-26 depending which metric you use. So, that veteran thing is not going well either.

        Finally, there are plenty of workable to sleeper WR, RB, CB, S and TE in the middle of and late in the draft.
        Plus, we just added Josh Gordon and have the luxury to bench one of the best slot receivers of the 2019 draft.

        • Rob Staton

          1. I don’t think Epenesa is worth a R1 or a R2. But Tony Pauline says he might not even declare and there’s a good chance he returns to Iowa.

          2. Please stop repeating the same point about the OL.

  27. WALL UP

    Monday night’s game with the Vikings probably determines their draft position. Besides the Niners game, this may be their toughest game the rest of the way.

  28. Volume12

    I wonder what Jim Nagy meant when he said, ‘someone (WR Tyler Johnson) draft twitter has evaluated much differently than the SR bowl’

    • Rob Staton

      Seems to not be a fan.

    • Kenny Sloth

      How Sway?!

  29. Dale Roberts

    Rob the October PFF offensive linemen rankings had this gem about a guy you wanted the Hawks to take:
    “Bitonio has been one of the most consistent players on the Browns offense through five weeks, with all of his PFF game grades falling between 65.5 and 82.3. In pass protection, he has allowed two sacks and eight hits on 200 pass-blocking snaps, while he has produced an 81.8 PFF run-blocking grade on 116 snaps in that facet of his game.”

    Football Outsiders ranks the Seahawks O-Line 22nd while the two teams we’ve lost to are ranked first and fourth.

    • Rob Staton

      Easy to say in hindsight but IMO Bitonio just looked destined to be a really obvious good pro at Nevada.

      • Kenny Sloth

        You said it all year that draft yo. I remember the community wanting him bad

        • charlietheunicorn

          The top 35 picks in the NFL draft from 2014…. wow. Tons of big names and impact players.
          Note, Justin Britt was acquired with the 64 pick in that draft. Bitonio went #35.

  30. cha

    This is a repost…I posted in the last thread just before the new thread got posted. Any ideas?


    I’m thoroughly confused with the strategy of giving up big time draft picks for a star player and NOT conditioning the deal on signing star player to an extension -or- immediately signing him a la what KC did with Frank Clark.

    When you don’t do that, you cost yourself a chunk of money, because you immediately signal to the player’s agent, “we LOVE your guy and are hugely invested in his success!” but let him keep plowing towards free agency without locking him down. But it does seem to be happening.

    LA did it with Ramsey

    Houston did it with Tunsil

    Anyone know? What advantage do you gain by not locking the guy down immediately? I suppose you have protection against a career ending injury, and you keep the player hungry. But every year the cap goes up 15 or 20% and top level player contracts can go up even more. You’ve traded your best shot at getting cheap young impact talent with those multiple high picks, but at the same time, have declined to lock down the very player you paid so dearly for.

  31. Volume12

    Baylor WR Denzel Mims has some immense upside. God tier blocking wideout. Great ball skills, just raw.

    • Kenny Sloth

      This is why I’m Hot

      • Volume12

        I’m hot ’cause I’m fly
        You ain’t ’cause you’re not

        • Kenny Sloth

          Literally move if you wanna. If you wanna, move.

  32. Volume12

    Seems bad.

    Through 12 weeks according to PFF, Green Bay CB Kevin King has allowed the most yards (755) in coverage among all cornerbacks.

    • jujus

      shocking development-

      Uw player isnt good in the NFL

  33. Jamho3

    As far as projecting Pocic’s play going forward, I recall 2 years ago when so many SEA fans were so upset with Ifedi that Ray Roberts weighed in and said that Ifedi looked fine to him and reminded Ray of himself starting out that Ifedi would likely settle in going forward.

    After that someone on Fieldgulls posted some advanced stats that suggested that Ifedi would be OK as well, both of those evaluations seem to have held up over time.

    Now as I try to evaluate Pocic I have strong questions. Sure he has the size. I loved his technique in pass pro as a rookie in his limited action but if he didn’t get his strength up to NFL levels in 2 years of constant working out, eating, has yet to break into the starting line-up in year 2 then I can’t help but to be so curious about where he’s going to fit in going forward.

    At the same point in his career I imagine Britt was a struggling RG and headed out of the league prior to the switch to center.

    If anyone knows of any to accurately project or track Pocic’s play so far I’d appreciate a heads up. Thanks in advance.

    • DC

      Not much in the way of stats when you’re on IR.

  34. Paul Cook

    Alright. It’s “action green” uni for MNF with a twist. Action green jersey with their dark blue pants. This surely spells defeat for the Vikings.

    • charlietheunicorn

      Action Green Tops with Navy Blue Pants MNF

      OH BOY!

    • Rob Staton


      • TomLPDX

        Oh ye of little faith, why do you doubt.

      • Kenny Sloth

        Lol said the saame thing when I heard

    • Volume12

      Get rid of the action green and bring back the 80s-90s unis.

      Or just go back to those full time.

      • TomLPDX

        I wish they would.

    • CestrianHawk

      How about black with green trim 8=))

      • Kenny Sloth


  35. Paul Cook

    When you think about it, it’s pretty simple what we have to do to get that victory on MNF. Just shut down Delvin Cook, get continuous pressure on Cousins, win the turnover battle, open holes for Carson and Penny, give RW time to shred the weaker Viking secondary, and keep pinning the Vikings deep with a good punting game.

    Then let the Ravens do their business against the 49ers at home and we’re in first place with favorable playoff positioning.

    It’s all so easy.

  36. One Bad Mata'afa

    So much time between now and then, but if the draft were held today I’d love the Ruiz pick. Things I think I think:

    1) Britt is an ideal candidate to be cut, and part of me thinks it may have been a possibility even without the injury. Simply too much cap that can be used elsewhere to great benefit (pass rush, Tackle, TE)

    2) The timeline for that type of injury is worrisome. Maybe they have a better idea come April, but expecting him to be a full-go for camp seems misguided.

    3) The nature of the injury is worrisome. Expecting a near-300lb dude to anchor and drive repeatedly against a Mack truck (ala Donald, Niners line, etc) with a reconstructed knee and no real off-season scares the heck out of me.

    4) You really want to line Russ up behind those question marks?

    5) what scenario makes you more comfortable? Taking a Rnd 1 WR and hoping Britt performs? Or drafting a top-of-his-position Center and look for WR value later? We’ve already seen what can happen with an overmatched center, and we already know we can thrive with a WR core of Lockett, Metcalf, Moore, Dissly/Hollister, Malik Turner

    6) If they want to be at the top of a positional run, Round 1 makes sense as I could see the Ravens prioritizing the position as well

    • Rob Staton

      If Britt was healthy almost certainly they would’ve extended him to lessen the hit.

      Having a solid center is taken for granted.

      • Greg Haugsven

        I still believe an extension could be on the table to lessen the hit albeit not the same odds as before. I agree they would have most likely extended him to keep the continuity.

  37. Coleslaw

    If we had the cap space, who would like to see us go get Derrick Henry?
    If he doesnt get franchise tagged. I could see the Titans doing that to help out whoever they pick to play QB.

    Henry and Penny would be an awesome combo, and they’re more similar to each other than Penny and Carson are. Penny would be the burner and Henry the bruiser. I’d love to see it.

    • Coleslaw

      Henry is best late in games, right? So how about Chris Carson in the 1st half, Henry in the 2nd and Penny mixed in all game.

      Get all the benefit of 2nd half Henry but none of the 1st half beating. A 3 headed monster that would stay fresh all year.

      • Coleslaw

        I mean, imagine how demoralizing it would be to go through a half of Chris Carson snacking you in the mouth and Penny changing pace, only to come out of half time knowing you now have to face a fresh legged Derrick Henry and Penny changing pace.

        All while RW3MVP is threatening to run. Add a WR and TE in the draft, a C/G and wheres the weakness on this offense? Go all Defense (basically DL) for the rest of draft/FA.

        • Greg Haugsven

          Personally I like what we have. I could see them drafting another guy this year to either be a third option or to be a future replacement for Carson if he holds out or his contract expires. Im a huge believer that with RB’s you just dont get very much value with them after there rookie contract.Running backs also usually have an easier time adjusting to the NFL (maybe not pass blocking) than other positions.

  38. Kingdome1976

    I know this is on another planet as far as on-topic, but Booger and the other guy on Monday night football is almost unbearable. I have regular MNF games at my house with more than enough guys and gals around to know I’m not alone on this. Booger has some decent analysis during the game but the overall household-opinion on every given Monday is….where is the quality? We would much rather have Romo and someone else than this below par commentating.

    Sorry about the rant but it’s getting annoying and will be next Monday.

    • Paul Cook

      A big step down from Gruden.

    • Andrew Taylor

      Luckily I will be at the game and not have to hear his commentary. I would say that if the Seahawks win I am happy with anything he says as I only care about the win.

  39. CaptainJack

    I’m enjoying Rob’s pessimism this year.

    I think it’s fueling the team to win.

    That being said expect a Monday night loss to the Vikings 😉

  40. Pran

    It’s Kirk Cousins under Prime time lights…Relax People!

    • Rob Staton

      He won his last prime time game…

      • Pran

        Just one…against boyz who are bad.

        • Greg Haugsven

          We need to stop Cook, if he starts running wild then things will get tough in a hurry.

        • Rob Staton

          A team with a winning record on the road in prime time.

          That’s a good win.

          We could pick holes in plenty of our wins this year if we’re going down that road.

  41. TomLPDX

    What kind of options are going to be available for FAs at center and T next year?

    • DC

      Ifedi, Fant & Hunt…

    • DC

      Anthony Castonzo, Kelvin Beachum, Bryan Bulaga, Greg Robinson, Marcus Gilbert, Daryl Williams, Demar Dotson, Jack Conklin, TJ Clemmings… My finger is getting sore.

      • Greg Haugsven

        They could look to trade for Trent Williams, maybe start him at RT then move him to LT after Brown retires? It would be another temporary solution but a good one.

  42. Frank

    Is the Justin Britt injury really bad enough to suddenly be a cut? I’d prefer a restructure he’s only 28 years old, and Brown, Fluker, and Iupati are all going to need to be replaced within a couple years.

    • Rob Staton

      Too early to say. But they might have to consider whether they can better utilise the $9m saving if there are doubts about his ability to return and play at the level they need.

      • Greg Haugsven

        This will for sure be an interesting story line. This is very similar to the Sherman deal as he has one year left and can save some good cap space by releasing him. That being said Britt is one of the leaders of that OLine and has been a model teammate, Sherman was arguably a headache which could have contributed to his release.

  43. Kingdome1976


    • Paul Cook

      Ditto to that. Fun morning to be cooking, watching football, enjoying the family.

    • Volume12

      🦃 *insert Kramer as the Turkey gif here*

  44. Sea Mode

    Happy Thanksgiving, SDB!

    Pete Carroll Week 13 Wednesday Press Conference notes

    On Vikings:
    – We like playing the well-rounded Vikings, have faced them several times over the past years.
    – Cousins playing his best ever: 70% completion, around 115 QBR. They’re able to use all of his weapons. Seahawks interviewed him and RW back to back at the combine that year, and they were the most impressive to talk to. Memorable and cool that they now face off.
    – Dalvin Cook is explosive, elusive, tackle-breaker with his aggressive style. Over 1,000 yds already.
    – Two explosive WRs are complimented by two great TEs make it that much more complicated.
    – Why are we so good in primetime, especially at home? PC doesn’t know, just has guesses. Our guys are just good at it. Simply play like you are capable; that is the real challenge.

    On Eagles game:
    – League response OPI call on Lockett: offensive player has to avoid contact. PC not sure if that means that he has to try to avoid contact or actually avoid it.
    – 9 pressures last week even without Clowney is great.
    – Michael Kendricks just played his former team and now his brother. Just compete at your best and don’t be distracted by it.
    – Collier felt comfortable, did a good job.
    – PC “trusts the heck out of” Duane Brown. It was his initiative to get the offense together at one point because we weren’t clean enough.

    On injuries:
    – Reed is determined to play, was at walk-through today. Will be day to day up to the game.
    – Clowney wants to go, is going to try to make it. We’ll see.
    – Lockett wasn’t 100% last week but looks good now.
    – Nick Bellore has a “pretty good” quad injury. No go. Any other options at FB? “Yes.”
    – Luke Willson is aggressively trying to play this week. Trainers trying to hold him back, but he is pushing. We’ll see.

    On Seahawks players:
    – Tre Flowers has an aggressive style with his safety background. He is looking for contact. He’s growing because he’s played a lot of situations and a lot of football for us.
    – Quandre Diggs jumped out when PC saw him playing FS 3 years ago and he has kept track of him since then. Rare player in what he was willing to try to do. Some guys play by the book, and they’re almost conservative. He’s not. He’s gone for it and that demonstrates the confidence and the history that he’s lived through. It shows in his play.
    – Malik Turner has been consistent and has a great mentality in practice, great “motor” and team guy.
    – Penny has an explosive burst, unique quick feet, weighs 235. Can run inside, around the edge, cut back the entire field…

    In general:
    – Every player has to be treated individually, be they rookies or vets. Communication between training staff, strength and conditioning, and even nutrition is good. We’ve gotten better and are in pretty good shape at this point in the year.
    – We do use in-game analytics for situations, win probability, etc. Guys on both sides of the ball that communicate with PC. He likes to have as much input as possible.
    – Thanksgiving dinner (incl. dessert) is great, especially with family. We’ve got some big guys who like to eat, so we’ll talk to them… “not an eating circus.” Awesome that it’s a Mon. night game so we can give them the day off without missing a beat as far as our preparation.

    • Volume12

      Could you imagine how different it would all be if JS wasn’t here?

      Peyton Manning or Cousins as our QB. LenDale White at RB. Sidney Rice, Braylon Edward types at receiver.

  45. Volume12

    Barry Sanders! The god damn GOAT. God tier. My favorite NFL player of all-time.

    • mishima

      I have Payton as GOAT with Sanders a close 2nd.

      • Volume12

        Payton, Earl, Dickerson were great. I didn’t grow up watching them or watching them in real time. And I’m a big, ‘stats or #’s only tell 80% of the story.’

        So for me, it’s Barry, Emmitt, Faulk.

        • mishima

          Now, I feel old.

          I would reluctantly add OJ Simpson.

          Top 3: Payton, OJ, Sanders.

          • Volume12

            Yeah. OJ belongs in the discussion.

            I’m just sayin’… (his trademark twitter signoff)

  46. EranUngar

    Here is a weird prediction that keeps poping in my mind:

    * Lamar keeps light the NFL up, Ravens win their remaining 5 games (including a W over SF), end ranked 1st in the AFC with Lamar the consensus MVP.

    * Vikings lose on Monday and are forced to win out to get ahead of GB.

    * NO also wins out somehow and ends as the 1st. seed in the NFC. (including a W over SF)

    * Seahawks win the next 4 securing a bye and winning the NFC West. At 13-2 They have nothing to play for on week 17 and lose to SF (12-3) while resting most banged up players.

    This is where it gets interesting –

    5th seed SF beats DAL/PHI in the wildcard game while the Vikings beat GB at home.

    The Seahawks defeat the Vikings at home on the divisional round and SF goes on to beat NO.

    And This is where it gets really weird:

    The Seahawks play at home in the NFCCG against the wildcard SF for the right to play in the SB against the team led by the NFL MVP QB???

    I know I have already seen that movie…

  47. Paul Cook

    These three are in the very tippy-top tier of all time NFL RB’s IMHO…

    –Jim Brown
    –Walter Payton
    –Barry Sanders

    Sorry Emmit, but you’re in the next tier along with the likes of Campbell, Peterson, Dickerson…

    • WALL UP

      Don’t forget Gale Sayers, one of the most if not the most dynamic ball carrier.

    • DougM

      Yards per carry

      Jim Brown 5.2
      Barry Sanders 5.0
      OJ Simpson 4.7
      Adrian Peterson 4.7

    • charlietheunicorn

      I’m not an Emmitt fan, but he did win 3 rings / and was also big part of the offense.

      My fav I ever got to see play was Sanders, but when you pull up the old clips of Brown… he was a man amongst boys. It was mentioned, during the TV broadcast that Sanders and Payton were 2 of the greatest RBs to play at the same time. It was incredibly fun to see each of them play their own game… and appreciate the others’ game at the time.

      Earl the Pearl and A Peterson are slightly under rated imo, each has had longevity and amazing careers.

      and no mention of Galloping Ghost “Red” Grange was a bit shocking. He was one of the first superstars of the NFL back in the 1920-1930s era…. and was an amazing player.

      • Largent80

        Don’t forget Earl Campbell.

  48. Kenny Sloth

    Never a doubt in my mind that Bo Scarborough could gain 4 ypc in the nfl

  49. cha

    So with Chicago in cap jail and Akeem Hicks coming off an injury do they cut him to save cap? And how quickly could the Hawks get his name on the dotted line?

  50. John_s

    I really wish Scarborough made the team instead of Procise who we all know will not be on the team next year. It’s basically a waste of two players

    • cha

      No it’s not. Hawks aren’t any better or worse off with Scarborough warming the bench than Prosise. Travis Homer and cheap FA or UDFA can take their spot warming the bench in 2020.

      I’m always glad when Hawks castoffs make good elsewhere. Shows how much talent they have on their roster.

  51. Aaron

    I still stand by letting Haush$ go after the 2016 season. Still haven’t found a good replacement though.

  52. cha

    The Cowboys are the Schoedingers cat of the NFL. You never know if playing good against them means you’re a good team or not.

    • cha


    • Aaron

      The Cowboys definitely are a team at a crossroads. They might still win the terrible NFC East, but they’re not near the top teams in the NFC.

      • SoCal12

        I think there’s a major coaching issue holding them back. The biggest difference I saw from that game was coaching. McDermott had a plan and it looked like his team bought in and executed. Garrett’s Boys on the other hand had much more talent on paper, but looked listless and not confident in what they were doing.

  53. Paul Cook

    Okay. One Thanksgiving Grinch moment. Buffalo spoiling every Cowboy fan’s Thanksgiving. Nice.

    • Volume12

      Nothing says Thanksgiving tradition like watching Jerry Jones miserable a** looking on as his team gets thumped on national t.v.

      Amurica! F**k yeah!

      • cha

        And wondering if anyone actually wants to win the NFC East.

  54. DC

    Is the age of the pocket passer officially over? Unless you have a good to great OL or you have superhuman processing speed (Brady, Brees) you have got to have some mobility ability.

    Saw a little bit of the Atlanta v NO game. Watching Matt Ryan attempt to evade pressure was ugly, bumbling & awkward.

  55. Bruce McDermott

    Anybody else notice Atlanta converting on THREE successive onside kicks tonight? They convert the first one, but it gets called back on a penalty, they try again and convert, go down to get a field goal, and then convert a third time. Payton was livid.

    • Tony Marble

      Yes, I saw that. Atlanta kept turning the ball over in the 2nd half that cost them a chance at winning that game. An NO loss would have really helped us tonight.

  56. Coach

    Did you see Pocic is going to be eligible week 15? Do you think he is our starting center in the playoffs? Or maybe he starts at guard like he did week 1.

    That is an added bonus – getting him back right before the playoffs!

    Go Hawks!!

    • Aaron

      I sure hope Pocic makes it back into action unlike Dickson who just ended up being activated then instantly back to IR. Hunt is filling in admirably, but his size causes problems for the inside running game. Those big DTs just eat him up.

      • Greg Haugsven

        Im pretty sure he doesnt start over Fluker or Lupati but could be a back up option. I for sure think he gets a look at center.

  57. charlietheunicorn

    One of the greatest turkeys I’ve ever heard about was…

    The Dallas Cowboys on Thanksgiving in 2019.

    I appreciate the Patriots and Seahawks even more these last 10 years.. because 2 of the up and comer teams (Rams/Cowboys) have already flamed out before even barely getting started.

    Whoever gets the 5 seed is going to win round #1 in the playoffs… because the NFCE team is going to be garbage. 9-7 or 8-8 will win the division… and neither team is truly “scary” right now.

    • UkAlex6674

      But they don’t have to be right now. The playoffs are a different beast entirely.

    • Coleslaw

      Theres 1 wildcard out there that people forget about.

      If Dallas signs Antonio Brown they immediately become much scarier. That could get Dak back into his early season form.

      SF vs Dallas wildcard round, Boys have AB. Dallas OL could neutralize SF DL, especially with Cooper, AB, Gallup and Cobb AND Zeke keeping them honest.

      I could easily see Dallas winning that.

      • Rob Staton

        Receiver is the least of Dallas’ needs and Brown ain’t playing this year.

  58. Greg Haugsven

    If we do end up the #5 seed who would everyone want to play? I have to root for a rematch with the Cowboys rather than going back to Philly as I think we would take care of business this time.

    • Volume12


      Why not Philly? Wentz ain’t any good.

      • Kenny Sloth

        Yeah, I’d rather see Philly as it stands. Dallas the kinda squad we gift TDs to.

        Philly has no weapons. Cant say that about Dallas

  59. Sea Mode

    Yet another WR for this draft?

    Jim Nagy

    Duvernay ran 10.21 in 100m as high schooler. Andy Isabella was 10.51 and ran low-4.3’s at Combine.

    2019: 100 receptions for 1,223 yards and 8 TDs.

    • WALL UP

      Agreed. I have him with their 3rd comp pick. He’s a physical players as well. He has Seahawk written all over him.

  60. Sea Mode

    OL market not cooling off anytime soon…

    Mike Garafolo
    · 3m

    Sources: The #Eagles have agreed to a four-year, $72 million extension with right tackle Lane Johnson that includes $54.595 guaranteed. It is the largest contract for an NFL offensive lineman in history on a per-year and guarantee basis

    • cha

      So the Eagles have an interesting strategy – extending guys well before their current contract runs out. They did it with Wentz.

      They had already locked LJ down through 2021, and had spread some bonus $ from his current extension through 2023.

      Will be interesting to see how this one pans out.

      • Greg Haugsven

        This will either hurt us in trying to retain Ifedi or help us by making sure that comp pick is a 3rd rounder.

  61. Kenny Sloth

    Ah the Apple Cup, that time-tested classic where two teams battle it out to see who goes to the Belk Bowl and who goes to the Dollar General Bowl.

    Imagine not dominating your in-state rivals; can’t relate 💚💛

    • Nathan W.

      Ducks lost in 2016… UW has won the past 6 Apple Cups. Leads the overall series like 73-32 or something with a few ties. How is that not dominating? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

      Oh, and the Huskies have certainly won more against WSU than Oregon has this decade.

      • Nathan W.

        Oh, sorry. Ducks lost the Civil War***

      • Kenny Sloth

        Don’t bring facts into this 😤😤😤😤

      • Volume12

        Sir. Don’t ruin his narrative. Let him get his shot in. 😉

      • DC


    • Aaron

      Wait, are you a Ducks fan? Why would you ever be a Ducks fan, makes me want to 🤮🤮🤮

      Purple Reign Forever Baby 💜💛

      • Kenny Sloth

        Love our state, but I grew up in Oregon and was indoctrinated early haha

      • Kenny Sloth

        Makes me wanna puke sometimes too.

        Is there a more under-achieving school in cfb? Maybe FSU these days?

        See I’m open my mouth and then we’ll lose to OSU

        • Nathan W.

          Hahahaha you’re too funny bro. No but in all seriousness that actually might be a good game. Beavs can put some serious points up

    • DC

      We need to get back to the ‘Heart of Dallas’ Bowl. That’s where we win!

    • charlietheunicorn

      The UW Huskies got a 30 year head start on wins against WSU Cougars. Except for some flash in the plan times, such as when Bledsoe played or more recently Leaf… WSU has been more or less dreadful.

      But, what Price did and more recently Leach … bringing some semblance of competitive team year after year to the table is borderline remarkable. They have none of the built-in advantages of UW. There is a reason why students at WSU drink heavily 😉

  62. Aaron

    Possible offseason sports hernia or core surgery likely coming for Clowney…


  63. Greg Haugsven

    Off season is OK, we just dont want in season.

  64. Volume12

    JS scouted the Apple Cup. 9 x’s outta 10, when a GM shows up someone from that game ends up on that team.

    Hunter Bryant?

    • Volume12

      Maybe Nick Harris?

      • Rob Staton

        Could be either.

        I’ve got a feeling they’ll really like both. Harris’ intensity, ability to move and get out and the way he carries himself. Yesterday I watched three Washington games purely to focus on Bryant as a blocker and he’s a LOT better than most give him credit for. He’s not just a move-TE who won’t/can’t do anything else. Unlike a lot of TE’s he does a fair amount of blocking and does it well. The fact he’s also a very capable weapon — I think he’ll be high on their list. Plus he ran a 4.35 short shuttle at SPARQ and we know that’s an important test:

        Luke Willson — 4.29 at pro-day
        Will Dissly — 4.40 (8th best in 2018)
        Nick Vannett — 4.20 (2nd best in 2016)
        Anthony McCoy — 4.57
        Zach Miller — 4.42
        Jimmy Graham — 4.45

        I’m going to write a bit more about Bryant now.

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          I agree.

          I’m biased when it comes to Bryant though. He’s one of my draft crushes.

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          Looking forward to that BTW.

  65. Volume12

    Memphis WR Damonte Coxie (6’3, 197 lbs.) is incredibly underrated. Great route runner. Watching his release is a thing of beauty. *chefs kiss*

  66. Volume12

    We’re talking apples to oranges here, but Matt Rhule inherited a dumpster fire at Baylor and has them 10-1. The Jets probably should’ve went with him instead of Adam Gase.

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