This is my final 2019 mock draft to send to the Huddle Report for scoring. Here’s a few quick thoughts before getting into it…
There’s absolutely no doubt what the Seahawks have to do in this draft. They need more picks (five isn’t enough) and they need defensive linemen. We can sit here and discuss receivers just in case Doug Baldwin calls it a day or the defensive backs who can play nickel and maybe push Delano Hill out of a warranted starting gig. The simple fact is — Seattle’s starting D-line, now minus Frank Clark, is inadequate.
Cassius Marsh, Nate Orchard and Jacob Martin are your edge rushers. They haven’t replaced Shamar Stephen or Dion Jordan. Now they need to replace Clark too. They can sign a few veterans after the draft, sure. But none are long-term solutions.
When this team was at it’s best they had the Legion of Boom and Russell Wilson. They also had Michael Bennett, Cliff Avril and Chris Clemons rushing the passer, ably supported by Bruce Irvin. Eventually Clark replaced Clemons.
Now what have they got?
This is a defensive line draft. If there was ever a year to load up on the D-line, this is it. Swapping out Clark for a cheap rookie and hoping Jacob Martin and Rasheem Green take a step forward isn’t enough to progress in 2019.
So while receiver and defensive back are both needs — they both pale into insignificance compared to the defensive line.
Pass rush, run defense, depth, quality.
This historic D-line class provides an opportunity to emulate the impact additions of Avril and Bennett in 2013.
And on that note — here’s my projection…
Final 2019 mock draft
#1 Arizona — Kyler Murray (QB, Oklahoma)
#2 San Francisco — Nick Bosa (DE, Ohio State)
#3 New York Jets — Ed Oliver (DT, Houston)
#4 Oakland — Quinnen Williams (DT, Alabama)
#5 Tampa Bay — Devin White (LB, LSU)
#6 New York Giants — Josh Allen (EDGE, Kentucky)
#7 Jacksonville — T.J. Hockenson (TE, Iowa)
#8 Atlanta (via DET) — Christian Wilkins (DT, Clemson)
#9 Buffalo — Jonah Williams (T, Alabama)
#10 Houston (via DEN) — Andre Dillard (T, Washington State)
#11 Cincinnati — Devin Bush (LB, Michigan)
#12 Green Bay — Jawaan Taylor (T, Florida)
#13 Miami — Dexter Lawrence (DT, Clemson)
#14 Detroit (via ATL) — Cody Ford (T, Oklahoma)
#15 Washington — Dwayne Haskins (QB, Ohio State)
#16 Carolina — Brian Burns (EDGE, Florida State)
#17 New York Giants — Daniel Jones (QB, Duke)
#18 Oakland (via MIN) — Clelin Ferrell (DE, Clemson)
#19 Tennessee — Noah Fant (TE, Iowa)
#20 Pittsburgh — Greedy Williams (CB, LSU)
#21 Seattle — Rashan Gary (DE, Michigan)
#22 Baltimore — Garrett Bradbury (C, NC State)
#23 Denver (via HOU) — Drew Lock (QB, Missouri)
#24 Minnesota (via OAK) — Chris Lindstrom (G, Boston College)
#25 Philadelphia — Jeffery Simmons (DT, Mississippi State)
#26 Indianapolis — Montez Sweat (EDGE, Mississippi State)
#27 Oakland (via DAL) — Byron Murphy (CB, Washington)
#28 LA Chargers — Rock Ya-Sin (CB, Temple)
#29 Denver (via SEA) — Irv Smith JR (TE, Alabama)
#30 Green Bay — Marquise Brown (WR, Oklahoma)
#31 LA Rams — Erik McCoy (C, Texas A&M)
#32 New England — Kaleb McGary (T, Washington)
The trades explained
Atlanta trades #14, #80 & #118 to Detroit for #8
The Falcons want to get an impact defensive lineman and sit behind too many teams with a similar need (Buffalo, Green Bay, Miami). With four and fifth round comp picks padding out their draft, they give up a third and fourth round pick to move up eight spots to get Christian Wilkins. The Lions are reportedly keen to trade down from #8.
Houston trades #23, #54 & #87 to Denver for #10 & #125
The Texans will never be able to function properly unless they can protect Deshaun Watson. An early run on offensive linemen is expected. Houston has two second round picks so they give up one here to trade up and select Andre Dillard to play left tackle. The Broncos also get Houston’s third rounder and the Texans receive Denver’s fourth rounder.
Oakland trades #24, #107 & a 2020 third rounder to Minnesota for #18
The Raiders are trying to change their culture and bring in leaders. I almost gave them Devin White at #4 to illustrate that. They also need a defensive end badly. Here they trade up to get an alpha who will set the tone for the rest of the defense. The Raiders go up and get Clelin Ferrell.
Denver trades #42, #87 & #183 to Seattle for #29
The Seahawks and Broncos have been trade partners in the past. Denver needs a tight end and they leapfrog Green Bay here to make sure they get one. Having traded down from #10 to #23 originally the Broncos have some stock to spend. In return the Seahawks collect another third round pick and a sixth round pick to fill out their board and take their total to seven.
Options for the Seahawks in round two
If they drop down from #29 to #41 it’s possible they’ll miss the run on receivers. It’s also likely at least one of Darnell Savage and Juan Thornhill will be off the board (keep an eye on San Francisco). If N’Keal Harry, Terry McLaurin, Parris Campbell, Savage or Thornhill are available they could all be options.
#41 would also be a range where you maybe consider outside corner with Lonnie Johnson, Sean Bunting and Justin Layne unlikely to be available after round two. If the Seahawks see a potential star among that group they could consider drafting a corner earlier than they ever have done before.
However, as discussed in the intro, one defensive line pick early isn’t enough for the Seahawks. They need to improve their pass rush and D-line depth. If they’re lucky enough to get Rashan Gary with their first pick they have their base-end. Now they need someone to replace Clark’s pass rushing ability.
If we look at pressure percentages, Jaylon Ferguson could be an option. I’m still sceptical Chase Winovich is a fit in Seattle but he too would also qualify. Tony Pauline has connected the Seahawks with second round interest in the ultra-raw Ben Banogu. Trysten Hill is an incredible athlete at defensive tackle and is expected to go in the top-60.
The Seahawks have a lot of options. If a player drops to #21 they now have the freedom to make a pick. If nobody drops — there’s a good chance they’ll trade down at that spot. They could trade down from both #21 and #29. The only unlikely scenario, in my opinion, is they use both #21 and #29. That would require a unique opportunity presenting itself — an opportunity I can’t really imagine. You could say Rashan Gary and Jeffery Simmons maybe. That might be too much of a health risk. Brock Huard said on 710 ESPN he didn’t think Simmons will be on Seattle’s board.
Seahawks seven round projection
R1 #21 Rashan Gary (DE, Michigan)
Incredible athlete, traits, #1 national recruit. Pete Carroll loves all of that.
R2 #41 Jaylon Ferguson (DE, Louisiana Tech)
A sack machine in college with one of the best pressure percentage scores.
R3 #87 Drew Sample (TE, Washington)
Compared to Zach Miller. Sample and Will Dissly are Seattle-style tight ends.
R3 #93 Marvell Tell (S, USC)
Try him at outside corner, nickel or safety. Tell has a fascinating physical profile.
R4 #125 Gary Jennings (WR, West Virginia)
If they don’t take a receiver early Jennings is an alternative.
R5 #160 Armon Watts (DT, Arkansas)
Tough, physical run-stopper with some pass-rush upside.
R6 #183 Derrek Thomas (CB, Baylor)
He looked like a Seahawks corner while running at the combine.
Final general draft thoughts
— I still think this will be one of the more unpredictable first rounds we’ve seen in a long time. With very few ‘legit’ first round picks and a puzzling quarterback class — a lot of different scenarios could play out. About 10-15 players are going to be drafted in round one with similar grades to the players being drafted in the second round. There’s always uncertainty and the unexpected but there could be far more this year.
— Adding to this is the complete mystery surrounding Rashan Gary, Montez Sweat and Jeffery Simmons. All three are highly talented but with very different health concerns. Where do they end up going?
— It’s also very important to think 12 months on. The next draft is expected to be particularly strong at wide receiver but weak on the offensive line. Teams will plan ahead. It could mean a large number of O-liners go in the first frame and the receivers are pushed into round two.
I’ll have some further thoughts before the draft tomorrow and will publish a tiered list of Seahawks targets for each section of the draft.
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For whatever reason Im feeling double Maize and Blue as you called it the other day. Gary as a future RDE and Winovich as a future Leo.
I just want to leave this draft with the D-line looking primed and ready for the future.
we have addressed some of the issues on the line here, But i fear we are still going to miss the final piece that previously eluded us. The 3T.
I think regardless who we get at DE. we have to get Trysten Hill in this draft to be a rotational piece but specifically for the Clinton mcD 3 T role.
Could be an option. There is some TE options though in round 4 area. Maybe Sample, Wesco, Smith, Moreau, Sternberger?
Love to get Trystan Hill also.
I am hoping we go DE or DT with the first two then land a WR. I really don’t think we need another TE that early (3rd) even with Dissly recovering. I would love to get that tall receiver ala Hakeem Butler but would be happy if we got Jennings later on.
I do think we Trade down with pick 21, but not out of the first round. With pick 29, I also see a possible trade down but hopefully into the early 1- 5 picks of the second round. If Hill was still around in the late or early 4th rnd and acquisition of more picks I think he would be a nice addition.
I like TE Warring still, and Savage could be a Savage on the field.
It will be interesting, and again I am watching in the UAE, so I’ll be drinking a lot of coffee to wake up.
Go Seahawks..
Couldnt agree more. It would be nice to get two solid guys with some early picks. I guess whichever flavor they like.
On the DLine comment that is. Need to be ready for the future with maybe some stop gap guys this year.
Troy says:
April 24, 2019 at 10:57 am
21: R1P21
DL RASHAN GARY
MICHIGAN
29: R1P29
EDGE CHASE WINOVICH
MICHIGAN
92: R3P28
DL TRYSTEN HILL
CENTRAL FLORIDA
124: R4P22
S MARVELL TELL
USC
159: R5P21
WR GARY JENNINGS
WEST VIRGINIA
Rob looks like we both have a few of the same players selected. S
hould be interesting, hopeful that everything falls into place for the Hawks.
Thanks Rob. Been following for years and you really stepped it up this year. Can’t wait to see what the hawks end up with.
Thanks JJ
Happy to see reloading on defense. Hope JS is able to do better on converting in to more draft picks. Looking forward for your draft day podcast Rob.
Tony Blakely on twitter says his source indicates that Simmons isnt on the hawks board at all.
I am distraught.
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Regarding this mock.
I keep seeing people claim scheme held Rashan Gary back, but I also heard what Brock said this morning and he doesnt play with the FIRE for the game. I dont know something about him screams lukewarm to me.
I’m not going to judge another man’s claim to have a source — but has he ever quoted a source previously and been proven right?
As for Gary not playing with fire — Pete Carroll will 100% back himself to light a fire under a 280lbs man who runs in the 4.5’s was a national #1 recruit and is endorsed by Jim Harbaugh.
I dont know. I know Davis Hsu has been money in the past but im newer to following Tony.
I’m always suspicious of people quoting where players are ranked ‘on the board’.
Very few people actually see ‘the board’ and the people who do are not inclined to go around telling others what’s on it.
Exactly, even Davis Hsu has, in the past, reported his information “nuggets” from an inside source. The info he provided was real sensitive stuff. Seemed hard to believe that a Seahawk staffer would tell Davis this info knowing full well that he would spread it all over Twitter. Seemed like leaked misinformation at best…
I don’t know about trying to light a fire under anyone. I’ve seen way too many cases of players with incredible physical attributes and no fire made of asbestos. You can try all you like, but there ain’t no getting a fire lit under some people. Better to look for people who already have a fire burning within them. Those are the ones that you want.
This is all WAY overstated with Gary.
So much nonsense being said about him.
I am lukewarm on Gary myself, but I don’t know if I’d say he doesn’t play with fire for the game. The film actually shows you he has a really good motor and doesn’t take a lot of plays off. The problem I have with him is that he just doesn’t finish plays. Due respect to those who claim it’s scheme, I disagree. Like UW’s defensive ends, it does seem as if he’s more concerned with containing the QB than killing him at times, but I think that’s more because he doesn’t quite know what he’s doing. He gets stuck at the top of his rush. He’ll use a good long-arm technique to get the tackle turned, but then he hesitates and doesn’t close on the QB. Similarly, he’ll stand his ground in the run game, but doesn’t stack and shed explosively, instead taking a bad/wrong angle and watching the RB run by him.
Maybe Pete thinks he can turn him into a monster, because he’s there athletically, but I’d say he’s at least as raw as Clark was and doesn’t seem to have the killer instinct that Clark did.
True about the scheme, JusJus. From what you watch Gary was the space eater and Winovich was the numbers producer. But also makes you ask, why would the coaching staff not scheme for Gary who is clearly the better athlete.
One thing I did see. If the play or player is 7 yards away from Gary the effort was….. well let’s say he was preserving his energy for the next play. That could be a flag. IDK but you have to consider all things. Also, Why does this freak athlete have less of a pass-rush repertoire than some DBs in this draft? Again, all things considered. That being said one also has to consider was Gary a well enough team player to understand his role would benefit the team the most and the coaching staff figure he is good enough to not have to set scheme for?
Funny how the Hawks always seem to find the one player who will give us miles and miles of conversation (if he is a strong target), haha.
I like this draft…maybe I would have them trade back from 21….draft brown(wr) with their 1st. Then get Ferguson next…and Hill (dl) with the following pick. Love the Jennings pick also.
You’ve had a great year on SHDB Rob. Thanks again.
Thanks
The problem with reading your blog, Rob, is that you are so often right about what the Seahawks will do.
It’s depressing.
Well let’s wait until tomorrow before asserting that…
I have a funny feeling we are going to end up with zero picks on Thursday but 5-6 on Day #2 and JS will end up with his traditional 8+ picks.
That would be totally fine with me!
I was bragging to my friend from South Beach how we have 2 picks. Then i sat back and considered “well we will just get to trade out of the first round twice this year.”
Thanks Rob! Can’t say it enough how appreciated your efforts have been in the past few weeks. I’m not sure there’s a lot of blogs where I can say the community is spoiled with both the quality AND quantity of the content.
A question regarding one of our first picks and the Hawks strategy – do you think the Seahawks could, like in years past with Irvin, Penny, Carpenter, etc., end up taking a massively surprising player earlier than the media expects? Something like Trysten Hill in the 1st? Or do you think this is the kind of draft where they just let the board fall to them?
I think a surprise pick is very possible Eli. This year more than most. For me there are about 10-15 players you can genuinely place in R1. Then you have about 40 in the next tier with similar grades. Then another batch of a similar size. Teams’ boards, I think, will all be very different when the top-20 is complete. And it’ll leave things wide open for some serious surprises.
Great mock and important reminder about the D-line. This draft is all about adding more pass rush and run defense. They need to close the circle on Pete’s philosophy: last year they ran with will, but couldn’t stop the run. This year, they will focus on that.
Thanks again Rob for another fantastic year of the blog. The community here is top-notch and your stewardship of the site is a key reason why.
Thanks Nick
Great stuff, Rob. I don’t know how you do it but you need to be on a draft show. We obviously need a pass rusher but we also need a WR. Both could and should be Best Player Available, too. I don’t think it’s an exclusive concept. My guy for Russ is N’Keal Harry. Depends on how the board goes and if there’s a run on WR. I haven’t had us taking a WR in Rd 1 since 2013 when I had us taking DeAndre Hopkins. Truth. Until we did the Harvin trade in March. Hopkins would’ve been there when we drafted as Texans took him at #27. Harry has some Hopkins, Has some T.O., has some Beckham.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YE4NK-JPik&feature=youtu.be <——– N'Keal Harry
I’d love to be on a draft show. Let’s make it happen.
There’s a decent chance they will take a receiver early but I have reservations. N’Keal Harry has grit, character and athletic qualities they will like. 100%. But even with his 22% deep target scoring rate I just don’t see a sudden player capable of running their go-routes and making big chunk plays downfield. He competes for the ball and he does well on the back-shoulder stuff but Russell Wilson is allergic to throwing contested catches. I’m not sure I can stomach watching him chuck the ball eight yards over Harry’s head every week because he can’t shake tight coverage by the sideline. Not sold on the scheme fit. And I don’t see DeAndre Hopkins in Harry. Different body types and styles for me.
Rob, Didn’t Russ chuck it down the sideline multiple times in in Paul Richardson’s last season with a reasonable amount of success?
I’m not arguing they don’t throw to the sideline or never take chances downfield.
I’m suggesting that unless a players creates separation, Russell won’t think about throwing it to him.
And Richardson’s a burner. Harry isn’t. Half of those contested catches by P-Rich weren’t by design.
The end is near………………..for draft speculation anyway. Rob, I don’t disagree with the Hawks needing D line manpower. I would add that some good secondary (a PC strength) talent that might be able to hold the receivers “hostage” for an extra tick or two of the clock will help a younger/less talented D line have a bit more time for hassling a QB if not getting the sack. Both those positions should be the priority.
As for potential trades, that one with Denver seems feasible, but I can’t help but wonder if a small run at the end of the first round on the best of the O linemen might not be the key for Seattle getting extra picks with both 21 and 29. Perhaps tight end as well, just depends on how the talent falls.
Good job, enjoy the payoff tomorrow night and the following days.
I just have a hard time seeing Darnell Savage and Juan Thornhill providing what you’re proposing there. They aren’t Earl Thomas. And even when they had Thomas last year — the pass rush didn’t look any better than when he was injured.
They could use a defensive playmaker in the back end but for me the interest in these safeties was more about the surprising nature of their workouts and trying to do more homework rather than thinking, ‘wow — we’ve found the next great DB’. It’s an option but I shudder at the thought of losing Clark and simply replacing him and trying to put together a competitive DL with some veteran rejects next week and one high pick.
There’s no way to statistically disagree with your concerns/evaluation. All I’m saying, in a way, is that the coaching staff has to figure out how to get the most out of the “cards” they’re being dealt. I said it yesterday, Hurtt and Norton have their jobs cut out for them. I wish Norton was Quinn, but it ain’t to be. Still, if there was a draft class to be had when the decision (dare I say need?) to deal a talent like Clark arose……this is the one. I think that the Jets, Denver to a slightly lesser degree, and perhaps the Giants are three wild cards in the early first round that could trigger some activity that sends some unexpectedly good talent down board. As you noted above, there’s a lot of equally valued talent after 15 or so. Let’s hope that our talent evals are up to capitalizing on the fruit that falls to us. This could be a whacky good draft full of entertainment.
I’ve got Seattle trading back multiple times, stocking up to 11 picks & using the shotgun method.
R2 #34 Jaylon Ferguson, DE, Louisiana Tech (held my bias in check, I wanted Tillery here)
R2 #40 Darnell Savage, S, Maryland
R3 #73 Josh Oliver, TE, SDSU
R3 #92 Christian Miller, EDGE/LB, Alabama
R4 #112 Demarcus Christmas, DT, Florida St
R4 #124 Terry Godwin, WR, Georgia
R4 #129 Oli Udoh, OL, Elon
R4 #135 Zach Gentry, TE, Michigan
R5 #159 Daylon Mack, DT, Texas A & M
R6 #181 Derrek Thomas, CB, Baylor
R7 #246 Devine Ozigbo, RB, Nebraska
New England traded up to #21 in exchange for picks #32, #73 & #246
Indianapolis traded up to #29 in exchange for picks #34, #129 & #135
Buffalo traded up to #32 in exchange for picks #40, #112 & #181
Ugh, so many Jags in that projection.
Can we finally go quality over quantity?
Only if you believe that JS can beat the draft. There is nothing in anyone’s history to suggest that that can be done consistently.
Quantity is where it’s at, especially given Pete’s philosophy of trying to have guys at every position who are trying to, “take someone’s job.”
There are anecdotal examples on both sides of the argument (Julio Jones worked out pretty well, RG3 not so much.) but logic would dictate that the better you are at drafting the more picks you should try to accumulate. To use the extreme example – if you pull a Ricky Williams kind of move and trade your entire draft away for one player, the best case scenario is still that you have one really great player. Pete and John have shown the ability to obtain multiple great players out of a single draft – Earl and Kam – same draft, K.J. and Sherman – same draft, Russell and B Wags – same draft, Lockett and Clark – same draft.
Give PC/JS quantity all day. They’re really good at what they do.
Roob, any thoughts on a small move up from 21 if one of top guys drops down a bit using 2020 draft capital?
Nah. You’d have to give up a 2020 second rounder. I’m not trading up for anyone who’s left in the teens.
Rob,
Thank you! Your the single best source of Seahawks information around.
I haven’t heard anyone mention the possibility of packaging the two first rounders to move up AND down. I’m thinking a higher first, and two seconds for 21 and 29. Any potential players they could target moving up? Do you see any teams that might have the right amount of draft capital to be interested?
I don’t know how that would work Jason. If you’re trading up with 21 and 29 I don’t know how you’d end up with two seconds.
Trade with Philly, picks 21 and 29 to them return 25,53, and 57. Net value per Rick Hill table is -31.51 which is pick 107 Philly also has pick 127 which would make the net -11.74 and result in 7 picks (a 1st, two 2nds , a 3rd, two 4ths, and a 5th) for Seattle and 5 picks ( two firsts, a fourth, a 5th and a 6th) for Philadelphia.
KC, Houston, Philadelphia, and New England are the only teams with two 2nds. The Seahawks already have Kansas City’s first round pick and the other 3 are below pick 21. A trade with Houston would also work getting 23, 54 and 55 for a net of -14.13 or pick 142. adding 162 makes it -5.06 value.
Rob,
Thanks for all your tireless work and truly engaging writing throughout the year. Love the community you’ve built here and your passion for the draft. Not going to be able to watch R1 this year as quite coincidentally I’m going to be on a flight…to Nashville. Airplane WiFi permitting, I’ll be right here though!
Thanks man, appreciate that
I would be very disappointed if we picked Rashan Gary he just doesn’t have that JUICE that you want from your top pick. When I mean juice I don’t mean he’s not an athlete. I’m talking about that “want to” to destroy his opponents. His tape shows very little of it (his teammate on the other side has it In bunches).
I’m also very concerned about his lack of production. He literally has not gotten any better since his freshman year. 3 years and you still haven’t learned any pass rush moves other then a bull rush!?!?!
The last time we pick a player like this was Malik McDowell ( damn this pick still haunts me) Athletic player who can play inside out, both lacked production in college ( Malik even had better stats from the top of my mind)
Rashan doesn’t seem to have the character issues that Malik had but he doesn’t seem coachable. Now this seems like I’m saying he has bad attitude or he doesn’t work hard which I’m not. I’m saying is that in three years he hasn’t been able to take to coaching and improve as a player. That might change with NFL coaching but it’s still very concerning and a big risk. The Seahawks can’t afford to mess up the draft.
I think the complaints about Rashan Gary’s ‘juice’ have become the single most overstated and overhyped topic in this draft.
I thought it’d be people hammering Kyler Murray but no. It’s Rashan Gary instead.
I don’t like Gary as our first pick either. I respect your opinion Rob, that’s why I come here, and you made me go back to his tape to see what I was missing, but I still don’t see it. I even watched his highlights, whickh I only do when I’m lower on somebody than other people and I want to see the best case scenario, but very few of his pass rushers highlights we’re him straight up beating the OT, most were stunts or him going through a TE or RB. I went back and watched three of his 2017 games after reading about the shoulder injury, I liked that tape better, but still didn’t see what I’d want in the first round. I could see betting on this athletic profile, youth
(accidentally posted) in the second round. He has all the tools you could ask for in a DE, but the fact that he didn’t produce with those tools under a Harbaugh coaching staff is troubling to me.
It was frustratring to watch Gary during his career at Michigan, Rob. So much hype surrounding him as a recruit, so little production relative to the hype. When he was out injured, the D didn’t really seem to miss him much. A different story with Winowich and Bush who looked like they were giving it everything they had on every down. Gary just doesn’t seem “Seahawky” to me beyond his measurables. If he is drafted by the Seahawks, I sure hope I am proven wrong and Carroll does light that fire under him.
The scheme had an impact on his production.
Did Michigan pull him on passing downs? Was their scheme not to rush Gary on obvious passing downs? He had shots like everyone else in the draft. When it’s 3rd and long everyone gets sent after the quarterback and for whatever reason, Gary doesn’t have a knack for getting home. Physical traits be damned, that lack of production has me hoping we don’t get him.
This is not correct
Nice to see McGary round one, I think it could happen for sure.
I think late round one will be filled with some surprise picks. Like seeing Rock Ya Sin there, I think Juan Thornhill or Darnell Savage could also sneak into round one.
I would LOVE drafting Gary and Furguson!
Pairing Sample with Dissly would be really fun.
Sample literally played highschool ball minutes from the V-Mac.
Yeah, but I think third round is way to early for Sample. There will be much better players still on the board.
Will Dissly — early fourth rounder.
Sample is better.
Absolutely nothing wrong with spending a third on him.
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What a weird thing to say out loud… You see these guys pushing 225 a couple dozen times and you forget that they are still pretty much kids.
One part of your full mock I am questioning is Marvell Tell in round 3. I think you can get him later.
IMO definitely possible he goes a bit later, but if so, probably not that much. And I definitely could just as well see him sneaking into R3 as well.
He’s a 99.4% SPARQ athlete in the entire NFL and has good size including an 80 inch wingspan to go with that athleticism. So I would feel comfortable securing him in the back half of R3 if he is our target in order to make sure and get him.
At the risk of sounding repetitive, how exactly isFerguson a fit for Seattle besides this pressure rate? He did not have a great pro day. He doesn’t have any outstanding traits (length, get off). Neither did Bennett, but he had great hands and anticipation. If his production is effort based then I’m worried about his fit because bthat doesn’t always translate.
The conditions apparently were awful for his pro-day.
Pete says pressure percentages matter. We’ll found out tomorrow how much. They need a pass rusher though.
Wasn’t he awful at the combine, too, though?
He wasnt allowed at the combine.
He fought somebody outside of a McDonalds a while back and was uninvited
https://youtu.be/9h3dyKXbzvU
Here’s some pro day footage. It’s not great. He looks like he’s got some bad weight on him
He doesn’t look slow, but he doesn’t look fast either. Absolutely nothing wrong with those conditions though. Beautiful day on turf.
The talk was the turf was awful.
Good luck these next few days, Rob. Looking forward to the updates!!
wishful thinking…
Rashan Gary
Juan Thornhill
Trysten Hill
D’Andre Walker
Gary Jennings
Foster Moreau
Stephen Denmark
That is a nice looking group of players!
I’d take that draft in a heartbeat. I hadn’t heard of Stephen Denmark, very interesting. I’ll give you one in return, Jazz Ferguson, WR – NW Louisiana St.
Seattle gonna have the Griffin and Ferguson brothers?
Only read about S.Denmark here on the blog, but I think he could be a steal like Sherm. I also really like Dixon (WR) and Ozigbo (RB) for round 6-UDFA. Under the radar guys with interesting traits and ton of potential
Glad to see Rob placing Gary at our first pick. Been hoping for this since I’ve heard of his injured shoulder. No injured shoulder? Top 5 pick for me. Freak…..Seahawk.
This is what I actually think ‘could’ happen, and for my part hopefully it does for the first three picks. You can decide how we trade to make this happen.
#1 ~ Rashan Gary
#2 ~ Trysten Hill
#3 ~ Terry McLaurin
I think there’s a very reasonable chance they’ll trade down from #21 and #29.
Fingers crossed. Unless they love Sweat and aren’t concerned with his medicals while other teams are, R2-3 seems to be the play this year (probably the same as any year when you are picking in the 20s). What DE is going to be there at 21 that is so much better than, say, Collier or Nelson or Bonagu or Winovich or Ferguson? Nobody, probably. They’ll all be gone. What DL? What TE? What WR? For every name, you could pick out 3-4 that will be there at 35 that are just as good.
I think and hope you are right, Rob.
Damn I’d be excited to draft Gary. I cannot wait for the draft tomorrow.
Do you think LJ Collier will make it to their second pick after a trade down? I think I’d prefer him over Ferguson. I also don’t get why Rashan Garry is getting so much hate. He has so much potential and getting a chance to draft him makes me very excited. Remember, before this injury he was projected to go top 10.
He just might. Most of the rest of the Tier 1 DL will be gone in R1.
Let’s mock!
* Let’s use Rob’s trade scenario if I can, because predicting trade partners is almost as impossible as trying to figure out what PC/JS will do with 2 first rounders. Getting two 3rds is key
* Chase Winovich and Kaleb McGary are my wildcards if you can call ’em that
* This will almost surely be 100% wrong
1st. Rashan Gary, DE, Michigan: Not my favorite pick, but I think they’ll be enamored with the traits and are still in search of that uber athlete at the 5. He might end up being a 3-tech a few years down the line. He might end up being who I see a lot of in him, Cam Jordan.
2nd. Juan Thornhill, S, UVA: Might be the most versatile DB in the draft when you remember he’s a former corner. He’s a safety for me, however he can play high, in the slot, outside, and has fantastic range. Ball hawk. There’s literally levels to his game. Freak athlete. Savage, CGJ, Abram, Adderley, or Hooker are all good with me too.
3rd. *trade up into early 3rd* Terry McLaurin, WR Ohio St.: Will he last this long? Probably not, but Rob makes a great point about the WR class next year, he’s always been a tad overrated in terms of stock for me, and he’s not as good as Tyler Lockett when he came out who went in this range even if I love just about everything he offers. Seattle has a ton of ammo next year to do something like this and getting a guy who excels as a gunner, route runner, and blocking out wide has gotta appeal to PC.
3rd. Ben Banogu, EDGE, TCU: Whether Seattle grabs him, Collier, or Summers I’d be surprised to see them neglect a program (if they can help it) they’ve showed quite the amount of interest in this pre-draft process. IMO they grab some type of DE here. Round 2 is too rich for me with him, but would it be shocking? No. The guy has some freakish traits/ability/upside.
4th. Greg Gaines, DT, Udub: Yeah yeah his arm length. When you roster mirror like Seattle tends to this dude is about as close to Poona Ford as you’ll get.
5th. Trevon Wesco, H-back/TE: There’s a ton of things you can do with this dude. I’d like to see Seattle grab more of a pass catching TE, but it came down to Sample or Wesco.
6th. Saivion Smith, CB, ‘Bama: Quite a few day 3 prototypical ‘Seahawky’ corners, but I love the aggression and drip aka swag he plays with. Former JUCO product almost always play with a chip on their shoulder. 60 tackles from the corner position is impressive no matter how you slice it.
UDFA: JS comments led me to believe that they don’t see much difference between rounds 6-7 and ’round 8.
QB Jake Browning- Udub
EDGE Andrew Van Ginkel- Wisconsin
HB Damarea Crockett- Mizzou
WR Reggie White, jr.- Monmouth
OL-Demetrius Knox- Ohio St.
LB Drew Lewis- Colorado
CB Tim Harris- UVA
S/DB Corrion Ballard- Utah
I really, really wanted to add Brian Burns. Just think someone will come up to get him and stop his fall if that is the case. Clelin Ferrell has grown on me, especially that backstory, and we really don’t have all his #’s do we? So he may fit their mold when all is said and done. Also. Please Seattle. Add N’Keal Harry.
Pulling the trigger on 2 guys like Gary and Banogu is risky. Love it, hate, indifferent when has this team under this FO been afraid to roll the dice?
Nice work here. I see a few prospects differently (which is of course normal on a draft blog), but a class like this would have a TON of upside and a lot of the picks align with guys they’ve met with and/or brought in to visit.
Would love to get McLaurin in R3 and while I feel the back half of R2 is more likely his range, I definitely wouldn’t rule out the possibility of him still being there in R3, especially with him already having turned 24. But more likely than not he caught some team’s eye with his standout Senior Bowl week.
The only one of the list that I really can’t see for the Seahawks is Saivion Smith. I know it’s just a R6 pick, but there are a ton of long, athletic CB prospects this year, and I just can’t see them passing on those for a below-average athlete.
Agree UDFA will be fun this year.
I think that’s what’s gonna make this draft so much fun and will be the 2019 ‘hook’ is the lack of confidence in who goes where and when outside of 10-12 guys.
Nice pick with Van Ginkle. He had a really exceptional year last year finishing with a great bowl game vs Miami. Didn’t pop as much this year but I always thought he had some Vander Esch to his game though obviously not as athletic.
Trades: 21st pick to ARI for 33 and 65.
Ferrell and Gary are taken before the Hawks, leaving no one they are desperate forThe cardinals take Murray 1st overall, and decide they want to pair him with his favorite college target in Brown before the Ravens jump on him.
Trades: 29th pick to the Browns for 49, 80, and 2020 @nd rounder
The Browns sense that the run on Guards is going to start, so desperate to jump up and get their “guy” before Rams and packers, they trade a third this year and a 2nd next year to move up 20 spots and grab Ford, who is familiar blocking for Mayfield.
Trades: 33rd and 124th pick to Buffalo for 40 and 74.
Buffalo grabs Oliver at 9, but need to grab a WR for Allen. DK falls out of the first and they want to jump above IND to grab him.
40:Simmons, J
With the depth of the class, other teams pass on him because they already had him off their board (as was reported a while again) or they decide to be short sited. Hawks love his talent, and after picking up so many picks in the first 3 rounds, they feel they can take the redshirt. I think recent events have shown that they are happy playing the long game and looking to the future, even though they plan on winning a super bowl this year.
49: Maclaurin, T
The WR run started, and the hawks want to grab THEIR guy before the run is over. Maclaurin fits the Hawks a lot better than he would fit in other systems.
65: Winovich, C
Winovich lasts to the top of the third, and is great value. I know he does have traits, but the desciption just screams PC/JS to me. A guy who loves football, with athletics and production. Great value at the spot.
74:Savage, D
The safety run starts later than expected, the amount of money spent this offseason, even after such a weak market last year, was a precursor to show teams aren’t happy with this S class. But hawks look to savage as a Nickle CB.
80:Hill, T
Griffins give PCJS the green light and glowing review of Hill. Hawks try to keep the hype quiet and jump up and down when the pick is read. Reed, Hill, Simmons, and Ford are to be reckoned with for years to come.
92: Deandre Walker
Going along the same lines as Wino, they are excited to get Walker, who is described as a BAMF. Grabbing the Bullies and doubling up on DE to make up production that has left, with a rotation that exceeds expectations with Greene, Walker, Martin, and Wino.
159: Wesco, T
Blog favorite and i think a good fit. Loves to block and is athletic enough.
Priority UDFA:
Savion Smith
Derrick Thomas
Jonnie Dixon III
Darwin Thompson
Wildcard trade:
Hawks see Rodney Anderson fall to the Fourth round, and trade a 2020 3rd and to NYG who are looking to the future, for 132 and 142 to get into the end of the 4th and an extra 5th. Grabbing Anderson with the 4th and in the 5th Jordan, M to give depth at guard, or Prince, I as depth for tackle.
I know its not gonna be this simple, and the hawks will do less trades or somehow gain later round picks, but this scenario, they try and get as many picks in rounds 2 and 3, to capitalize on the talent before the cliff.
Also, before the inevitable “no way he lasts that long” post. This is just my opinion on where they will go. I think Rob is a much better evaluator than a lot of teams are even, so he sees guys as being higher than they end up going.
The video of him hitting the woman will eliminate Simmons from the Seahawks draft board.
agreed (see frank clark 2019)
???
I highly, highly doubt the decision to trade Frank had anything at all to do with his off-field history. It was all about not being willing to make him a top 3 paid defensive player in the league and seizing the opportunity that arose with a good trade offer to recoup picks in a year when we desperately needed them.
But hey, that’s all just my opinion.
Sea Mode…
FWIW, I like Frank and Simmons.
Someone recently posted a comment referring to “new” ownership JODY ALLEN maybe taking a firmer stance… not sure if any of it stands, but could be connected.
Or the exemplary person he’s shown himself to have grown up to be ever since that incident coming out of high school will keep him on the Seahawks’ draft board.
Gotta disagree. They have already said publicly they will not draft a player that has hit a woman.
Maybe if there wasn’t video evidence they would risk the public backlash.
Brock Huard suggesting he’s not on the board felt… deliberate. IMO. In that Brock knows and the team aren’t that concerned with people knowing it.
My ideal draft using robs trade scenario. Doubt some of these guys will be available where I have them going but these are some of my favorite guys. I’m cool with Gary or Sweat with the first pick too but Burns is my favorite pure pass rusher. I like the top safeties but there are more pressing needs and I trust we can coach up late round DB’s.
1. Brian Burns
2. Jerry Tillery
3. Terry McLaurin
3. Deandre Walker
4. Trevon Wesco
5. Corey Ballentine
6. Savion Smith
Priority UDFA
Bj Autry
It is funny, Cliff Avril was on the radio today and said he sees a lot of his game and fit in the defense in Brian Burns. The twitch, the get off and the ability to cover in the LEO spot. He was referencing the game tape work he has done on some the prospects… and noticed this with Burns.
I can see the similarities with Burns and Avril. If he’s there at 21 I would expect him to be the pick, I think he would be an ideal LEO. Only issue is he doesn’t convert speed to power and doesn’t have the strength and bulk to play 3 downs and hold up in the run game. But he can get after it and we need some of that.
Love it!
Rob: Thanks for all your great work. Enjoy reading it. I like the idea of taking defensive lineman with their first two picks. I could also see them trading down twice in the first round. I am just glad the draft has finally arrived. Finally all this waiting time is finally over.
I like your Seahawk mock except for Ferguson. Taking a small school Edge rusher worries me, they usually feast on guys who won’t be in the league. I also read he ran a 8.08 second three-cone.
Nice work though, love all the content you produce this time of year when we are all going through football withdrawals.
Khalil Mack went to Buffalo. Ferguson isn’t Mack by any stretch, but small school guys do work out from time to time.
Yep, you’re right, they are just a concern to me.
I’ve got this funny feeling Oakland might go QB at #4… and that would be Haskins.
If the OL is going to be weak in the draft next season, then you have to look at Michael Jackson as a possible pick in the second/third frame. OG/OC potential. I’m also wondering if Pocic gets dealt in some type of draft day deal….as well as Procise.
Nobody wants either, maybe the Pats like Procise, about that’s about all I would guess.
Not sure there is any value left for Procise.
Agree. Maybe a “let’s trade our talented mess for your talented mess and see if a change of scenery will do the trick”
Actually not a bad thought at all.
Possible Oakland does that, but I doubt it. What do they do with Carr? Most likely trade partner is Washington, and I doubt John’s own brother is going to want a guy John wants to get rid of.
Oh, and curmudgeonly (from the Marty Blake school, where the verdict is either “can play” or “can’t play”) draft take #1: Haskins is bad. I’d say terrible, but that’s the beer talking.
#2, McLaurin is a 3rd-round WR at best. Doesn’t DO anything. Get him out of your 2nd-round mocks, there are too many good WR there already. Parris Campbell is better as a Curtis Samuels/Percy Harvin type. Might as well keep Darboh if you’re going to draft McLaurin. I’d rather take somebody who could be somebody: Harry, Butler, Campbell, etc.
Drew Sample and Myles Gaskin are 5th-round types, as much as I love the Huskies.
Sit Haskins for 1 season, while Carr takes a beating, bid Carr adieu arfter this season and bring in Haskins year #2. This would be the most sensical approach. However, we are talking the Raiders and all….
Haskins is bad??
He broke Drew Brees Big 10 record for TD passes in a season that stood for 20 years in a run-first Urban Meyer offense. He may not be an all pro, but he ain’t bad.
Hey Rob, this was my mock I was posted just after the Clark trade:
1(21) Rashan Gary
2(34) Chauncey Gardner-Johnson (trade back to 34 w/ the Colts)
3(84) JJ Arcega-Whiteside
3(89) Trysten Hill (acquired from the Colts)
4(129) Dru Samia (swap 4th rounders with the Colts 129 for 124)
5(159) Kaden Elliss
7(240) Derrek Thomas (acquired from Colts)
We trade back 4 slots so the Colts can a defensive player who has fallen (maybe Sweat?). In the trade we pick up the Colts 3rd round pick #89, swap 4th rounders with the Colts so they move up 5 spots in that round, and acquire a 7th round pick at the end of the draft from them.
Thoughts?
Rob,
First, thanks for all you do. This truly is my go to site for prospect analysis and all things Seahawks.
Second, I’ve enjoyed in the past when you’ve put up your own tiers of players, regardless of position or Seahawks needs. I found it a great resource to use when following/evaluating picks. If you’d consider doing something like that again, I think slot of us would really appreciate it.
Donovan
Yes I’ll be doing that today.
I’d trade #21 and #29 plus a 2020 3rd for jets #3 pick and a ‘19 rd. 4, to pick Ed Oliver. Find other ways to get more pix… Oliver will be a Beast.
I like the enthusiasm but I completely and entirely disagree. I have found Oliver to be overrated on several accounts and think he should be a 15-20 pick in this years draft. Gary will be a far better pro in the NFL and I have zero doubt about it.
Yes, yes, and yes. If we don’t select Harry or Campbell early, Jennings is my favorite mid rounder. Love this mock.
Agree completely.
Yes!!! If the draft were to fall this way, total victory. I’ve become a fan of Jaylen Ferguson and I feel like he’s going to be a good one. I wonder if Gary falls to 21, but if not, I would hope Simmons is there. Farrell or sweat would be incredible as well. I’m all for doubling up on DL.
For the sake of easily finding the comment if I’m right I’m just gonna repost the mock I posted the other day.
1.21. Rashan Gary DE Michigan
2.38. Juan Thornhill DB Virginia
3.92. Oshane Ximinez DE Old Dominion
4.103. Kaden Smith TE Stanford
4.124. Gary Jennings WR WVU
5.159. Greg Gaines DT UW
6.174. Jamal Peters CB Mississippi State
7.236. Alec Ingold FB
Trade 29 to Jacksonville for 38, 98 and 236
Trade 98 to Arizona for 103 and 174
Sweet mock. I’d take that in a heartbeat.
Wouldn’t mind McLaurin with #2 and picking a good S later as another option. Visions of Russ to Terry using his ability to separate and running through the secondary sure makes me a happy camper.
“For the sake of easily finding the comment if I’m right I’m just gonna repost the mock I posted the other day.”
I had to reread this comment and I’m still entirely sure what it means but I would be happy with what picks you have chosen.
Am I the only person who really hopes they take Chris Lindstrom at 21 and then trades down at 29 and address the dLine in the 2nd round?
I would diff be down to pick Lindstrom ( or kaleb mcgary) and pick DL with secend pick. You cant go wrong boosting both sides of the trenches.
I just think Lindstrom is the best offensive lineman in the draft and could be a upgrade to what the hawks had last year with J.R.
After trading Clark and then picking OL first. Yeah I’d be pissed.
Just a lurker here mostly. But I check here everyday.
Absolutely want to thank Rob for his relentless and unending love for our Seahawks.
Rob, you make my football experience more informed and more enjoyable. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you and Go Hawks!!
+12
Thank you, appreciate that
John Clayton is convinced Seattle will draft a WR at #29. (I tend to agree, which is shocking)
He think Harry, Samuel are potential targets, but keep a close eye on Parris Campbell at this spot. He is currently slotted into the later 1st round, but the 4.31 40 really opened some eyes. He pretty much blew up the combine and is one the higher rated athletes in the draft. (144.1 / 99.3% – SPARC)
I really think Hollywood Brown could be this pick also. He is the type of WR that seattle loves, wins with seperation and quickness. Dynaimc, which we know seattle likes for their early picks.
I am coming round to this thinking, not out of preference but I believe all good DL will be fine hence WR will be fallback.
If they do go WR @21 I believe they will trade back @29 to pickup Hill or Walker in R2 plus more picks
I would be very surprised if the Hawks don’t trade down out of 21 or 29, or both. So if by 29 they haven’t already traded down out of 21, I don’t think they will be taking a WR, or anybody else, at 29…
Thanks for all you do rob. best hawks info anywhere.
Thanks buddy
I’ll be repping SDB in Nashville at the draft tomorrow. I’m driving up with my brother from Atlanta and we intend to cheer wildly for Roger Goodell when he comes on stage, just for the LOLs. So if you see a couple idiots fist pumping and cheering the commish amid his usual torrent of boos, that will be us.
I’m hoping that Rob is right and we go back-to-back DL. Not a Gary fan at all and still think Burns winds up their guy. Hoping for LJ Collier the most.
Have fun… wear your favorite jersey and represent!
Enjoy!!! Should be one of the funnest drafts in a long time. Until next year anyway!!!
LOL. That’s genius, man. And thanks for reppin’.
Enjoy!
Trying to compare/contrast Campbell and McLauren… seems like Campbell is more of gadget player in the mold of Harvin and Golden, McLauren is a gritty student of the game in the mood of DB. Given the same draft cost, say a mid 2nd after trade down… which do you all prefer? I’ve been on McLauren all season, but I’m feeling Campbell more now.
Kind of depends what they want to add to the offense. A different profile to compliment the current group, or a similar profile to carry it forward into the future. I personally like McLaurin for our offense, but I don’t think they can really go wrong either way as long as they have a plan as to how to deploy Campbell.
Daniel Jeremiah mocked Gary and Johnathan Abram to the Hawks at 21 and 29. I like it but I think they trade down from 29 and grab the best ‘hybrid DB’ available. It’s just cool to see the national media thinking the same a day before the draft. Gary and Thornhill/Savage after trading down from 29 would be amazing.
Wayy better than Greedy Williams and Jaylon Ferguson that Pauline gave us. I like ferguson and don’t care too much about his lack of quicks/flexibility but that would kinda stink for me.
I really want one of the Clemson guys or one of Gary, Burns, Sweat with our first pick.
21- Brian Burns, Edge- FL St
41- Parris Campbell, WR- Oh St
87- Tristen Hill, DT- CFU
93- Gardner-Johnson, CB/S- FL
125- Renell Wren DT- AZ St
160- Justin Hollins DE- OR
183- Jamal Peters CB- MS St
My guess given the framework of picks Rob gave
I think Burns will be gone but if not that would be a ridiculously good draft!
One of the sweetest mocks I’ve seen until now.
My neighbors would hear me celebrating from blocks around if this mock came to fruition. I’d call this a best case scenario mock.
I just watched Chris Simms discuss his top 7 DE’s in the draft and it was super helpful!
He has Gary ranked #2 and says he is Michael Bennett all day – sets the edge super well on first and second down and then kick him inside on 3rd to blow by the guard. He didn’t always get the sack, but led the team in disruptive plays, just like Bennett did for us! I wasn’t sure about Gary before, but I’m on board now – and this is exactly what Carrol loves to look for – versatile, disruptive DLinemen that can wreak havoc in the backfield!
Sweat is #4 and he thinks he’s going to be a great pro!
He has Ferguson at 6 and really likes his upside.
Then Ferrell at 7. I’m really hoping we get 1 or these top seven guys to give us a top-tier pass rusher! In fact, I’m holding out hope to get 2 – let’s make our pass rush better than when we had Clark!
Hoping for:
1. Gary DE
2. After trading down, Ferguson DE!
4. Hill DT
5. Jennings WR
6. Wesco TE/FB
7. Thomas CB Baylor
Here is the link for the video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3d0tq-pwHjQ
Go Hawks!
Forgot our 3rd pick
Thornhill nickel
I’d be super pumped with this draft – can’t wait for tomorrow night!
Thoughts?
Go Hawks!!
Sign me up is my thought!
Don’t think Thornhill will get out of R2, but there will still be some good DBs available in R3. Maybe David Long (Michigan).
What are your thoughts on Iowa State receiver Hakeem Butler? He’s really big! Is he a fit for the Hawks?
I wasn’t as high on him as others. Too many drops.
My final mock:
#37 – Harry
#40 – Thornhill
#73 – Collier
#84 – T. Hill
#95 – Samia
#112 – Omenihu
#124 – D. Walker
#181 – Sample
#194 – Tell
Seattle trades #21 to Patriots for #32 and #73 – Patriots select Rashan Gary
Seattle trades #32 to Buffalo for #40, #112, and #181 – Buffalo selects DK Metcalf
Seattle trades #29 to Giants for #37 and #95 – Giants select Daniel Jones
Seattle trades #159 and 2020 7th to Green Bay for #181 and #194 – GB selects Chuma Edoga
If we can get Walker and Tell that late I would be exstatic! Good group.
Change Samia for Tell, and you get an utterly realistic picture.
I had your first three trades in mind as well. Like what you’re thinking…
Thank you for keeping me afloat in the offseason Rob. This is all so much fun! All the guys that do work, post video, and interesting reading are awesome. Awesome place for some awesome hawks fans. Tomorrow is the day!
An additional late trade to make it 9 picks.
Seattle trades 183 to the Bengals for 200, 212, 225
21 DT/DE Dre’Mont Jones, Ohio State
41 S Darnell Savage Jr., Maryland
87 DE Anthony Nelson, Iowa
93 WR Antoine Wesley, Texas Tech
125 FB Alec Ingold, Wisconsin
160 OG Demetrius Knox, Ohio State
200 RB/KR Darwin Thompson, Utah State
212 CB Stephen Denmark, Valdosta State
225 TE Zach Gentry, Michigan
I wouldn’t draft Alec Ingold that high for a number of reasons. First, because you don’t need to. It’s not that Ingold isn’t that talented, but the number of teams that even use a FB is tiny, with the Hawks close to the only one, so no one is going to draft him out from underneath you. Second, even in Seattle, he would be on the field less than 50% of the time. I think we could still pick him up in the 6th or 7th round if we pick up a pick there in our trade downs. Khalid Hill was the best FB from last years draft class and we picked him up as an UDFA.
I don’t pretend to know the trades or exact picks so it’s just by round. Here goes nothing,
Round 1 N’Keal Harry – WR, ASU
Round 2 Jerry Tillery – DE/DT, Notre Dame
Round 3 Amani Hooker – DB, Iowa
Round 3 Jachai Polite – EDGE, Florida
Round 4 Isaiah Johnson – CB, Houston
Round 5 Greg Gaines – DT, Washington
Round 6 Trevon Wesco – TE/FB WVU
I was looking at the players the Hawks met with and CHAUNCEY GARDNER-JOHNSON name stood out (2 meetings). So I did a little scouting. Then remembered Rob probably already highlighted him. He did. And I’m proud that the notes I have echo his.
In what I’ve seen is he set up in the slot most often. But There was a great read and pick in the Bowl game vs Mich that he peeled away from his guy to make a fluid deep pick and long return. He seems a very competent tackler. both in tech but in angles. Good teammate, into whats going on in the game and on field.
Pete’s core of the D was the LOB. The highest player on the D backfield PC and JS have ever drafted was Earl. One of the few players to have multiple meetings with was Chauncey Gardner-Johnson, and player some believe could play and excelle in the single high safety roll. Same thing Earl was so coveted for.
Can CGJ play anywhere near Earls level? I have no idea. But I can say Coleman made some great plays for us the last few years and provided underrated coverage. I was very disappointed to see him go. CGJ could play the same kind of reliable ball in the slot.
I hadn’t even looked at tape of Rashan Gary. Seemed he would be overdrafted earlier than the Hawks would have a chance to worry about.
Now that’s changed a bit. What’s on film is what you will hear from everyone. Freak athlete, I mean it shows up the way it did with Peppers 20 years ago. Plays agile, smooth, quick, explosive. Then nothing. No counter moves at all. This worries me a lot. Because he played for a very capable coaching staff. That’s a flag. He looked more comfortable just slamming into blockers or taking them on as a DT or LB would do. Which makes me think could he lose weight and become a hybrid LB of some sort the way the Hawks tried with Irvin? Or could he add ten pounds and play a freak 3 tech?
I get why these guys are so often over drafted. And i feel good at a chance pick later in round 1 or early in round 2 for someone with so much talent but when faced with even vastly under talented opposition Gary didn’t produce pressures/sacks like you would hope for. As far as rush ends vs DBs Pete and the staff seem to be able to develop DBs. Rush ends, miss on Irvin, success on Clark. But Clark wasn’t near as unpolished as Gary or Irvin when it came to getting after the QB.
R1 #21 – Rashan Gary
R2 #41 – Terry McLaurin
R3 #87 – Trysten Hill
R3 #93 – Marvell Tell (for outside CB)
R4 #125 – Dru Samia
If we end up with any of these guys I’d be pretty pumped.
I think we will end up with more than 5 picks but if that was our entire draft class I would be really happy.
Yes. Please.
I’ve seen a lot of speculation that Solomon Thomas will swiftly become available once the 49ers draft Bosa or Williams or whomever they deem worthy for their D-line. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Seahawks wanted to take a shot at fixing him. Can’t imagine you’d have to give up much for him at this point
What’s wrong with him other than they had a crowded D-line and he didn’t fit what they wanted to run and he was over drafted? Too light in the legs for DT to short for DE…Definitely has physical talent but that only goes so far in the pros.
Thanks for all the hard work Rob. Your content adds an extra layer of intrigue over proceedings, make it all the more worthwhile to stay up mid morning for.
Speaking of which, what time are Cardinals on the clock UK time? 12am?
01:00 am
1am — and thanks David
From @grantpaulsen- Just talked to a Redskins source who told me Dan Snyder has “taken over the first round of the draft.”
The last time that happened the Redskins traded two future No. 1’s and a No. 2 to move up for Robert Griffin.
– reported 11 hrs ago from now. I know it’s not Hawks directly news but this could send ripples that effect us.
DC has to be the worst place to be a head coach. Also Grant Paulsen isn’t the only one reporting this.
I should mention it is smoking season. Even so, multiple reports is interesting.
Whaaaaaat? Ed Oliver instead of Williams? Better scheme fit, or what? :-O
These are my (bold, or not) predictions for the Hawks:
They will try to trade back with both picks from the first if they cannot pick Sweat, Gary or Ferrell. Even if one of those players are available at #21 they might still trade back from there and hope the player slips to #29. (None of these guys are surefire high floor, high ceiling, safe choice. Probably higher floor then most of the other guys, or needs less coaching then Ximines, Omenihu, Allen, Nelson, etc, but the gap is not that huge in my opinion…so they might just trade back when they can…BUT they might really like one of these 3 guys, my best bet would be Gary)
They won’t pick Simmons even if Simmons would be available at #29
(They are somewhat risk-averse, and they need passrush and availability NOW. Not saying picking Simmons would be a bad thing, but I think Hawks wouldn’t do it)
They won’t pick a WR until 4th round or they might not pick a WR at all (next year ton of picks, “year of the WR”, if Doug stays they’ll have time to pick someone, they have other bigger needs, they might willing to give Moore, Darboh, and the other guys another chance to crack the starting position)
They won’t draft a secondary player before round 3 (They like Savage, Thornhill, CGJ, Hooker, Tell, etc…but they hope at least one if not more will be available in the 3rd).
They will have at least 7 pick, but 8-9 is not out of the picture either
They will select at least 4 front7 players (1 EDGE, 2 DE, 1 DT, but possible 2 DT too)
They will select a TE before a WR
They will draft an RB. Although I’m torn on this, it might happen earlier than a WR.
Here’s my mock:
Not going to go into specific trades, because I have no idea who could be a real partner, but:
Hawks trade back from 21 to mid 2nd round, picking up mid 3rd, mid 4th, mid 6th and mid 7th (this can happen in 1 or 2 trades)
Hawks trade back from 29 to early 2nd, picking up also an early 3rd and early 6th.
Hawks move up in the 3rd round (KC 3rd moved to early-mid 3rd) by giving up a 4th and 6th
Picks after the trades:
early 2nd, mid 2nd, early 3rd, early-mid 3rd, mid 3rd, original 4th, original 5th, early 6th, mid 7th (9 picks)
2nd – Anthony Nelson (DE) -> Really high pressure percentage, high upside athlete who needs some work on his technique and needs to be a bit more consistent
2nd – Oshane Ximines (EDGE) -> One of my favorite pick from these guys. High pressure%, avg athlete, but great character. Probably won’t be a top5 EDGE guy in the league but he won’t disappoint.
3rd – L.J. Collier (DE) -> They met with him. Not a flashy guy, or a great athlete, but his dependable.
3rd – Trevon Wesco (they move up to select him, TE/FB) -> really good fit for this offense, they can move him around to use as an inline blocker or FB. He’ll be a better receiver than most realize and an awesome blocker.
3rd – Marvell Tell (CB) -> They will use him as nickel CB. Hopefully they can convert him as successful as they did with Flowers.
4th – Devine Ozigbo (RB) -> They need a Davis replacement. Ozigbo flies under the radar, but he’s a bigger back with some speed and explosiveness.
5th – Greg Gaines (DT) -> Solid run defender with some upside to him. Reported that SEA is interested in him. I think he has more passrush upside than some realize.
6th – Stephen Denmark (CB) -> Pete will love the upside and no better coach to teach him the position.
7th – Johnnie Dixon (WR) -> Rob wrote UDFA, but I might think he could be the Chris Carson of this year. A priority UDFA they doesn’t want to miss out on, so they pick him in the 7th. He’s got good speed and solid production.
To be honest, this wouldn’t be my draft choice with all the selections, but I would be happy with this group. Some are really Seahawks-y picks some are less, but I feel they need to mix potential with safety in the current situation (if they’d choose 2-3 high potential guys who turn out busts we wouldn’t have any passrush). So I tried to mix-n-match guys based on that. Pressure% was a major factor in the earlier passrusher picks, then flexibility at the TE spot, then value picks for different positions
I like a lot of your thoughts, in particular waiting for R3 to draft a DB and also adding a RB.
But edge defenders with our first 3 picks is pretty steep IMO. And I think they mix it up and go for some upside as well in at least one of them. Maybe leave out Collier and grab Trysten Hill in your scenario, for example.
Still, nice mock.
Thanks 🙂 Yeah, I’d like Hill a lot more…I think they’ll either love Hill or might not even be on their board depending on how they see his character (maybe based on the Griffin bros thoughts too).
If we could pick up Hill in the 3rd, it would be awesome though. I might even willing to change Nelson to Hill.
It’s hard, I feel these DL guys are all pretty solid, but nothing special. As for Savage, Campbell, Thornhill even Deebo or McLaurin, I see potential to be game changers (like Earl or Baldwin or Harvin). But I tried to put “best case scenarios/potential” aside and go D heavy, concentrate on the strength and need.
Another interesting scenario would be to stay at #21, pick Gary and trade back 29 to 40 for example and pick Hill there. We would have a DE and DT with lot of potentials.
Gary – Hill – Reed – Martin/Green could be nice for example. And on run heavy situation we could go with Gary – Ford – Reed – Hill maybe
I’ll do something a little bit different for my mock. I fully embrace that this is largely self-indulgent taking of “my guys” but all these mocks are really to some extent. Also, just to be different , I’m going to assume Gary is off the board, because I still believe he will be, but he would be my first choice all day if available.
So using Robs trade scenario here goes:
R1 Pick #21: DK Metcalf WR
He’s got his faults as a prospect, but what he does well he does at a level thatsts almost unseen in any prospect before.They’ve tried to add something special to the receiving game before with Jimmy G and Harvin, but they couldn’t figure it out. I don’t think there’s much to figure out with Metcalf, just have him run deep on PA, work in some curls and slants and watch him put up some Randy Moss like stat lines.
R2 Pick #41: Zach Allen DE
If DK is considered a risk pick, Zach Allen is someone you can bank on, and in my view one of the most under-rated players in this class. Could be considered a poor man’s Rashan Gary; dominant against the run and under-rated against the pass. (Just watch how much teams hold him on tape, his sack numbers could be so much better).
R2 Pick #55-60ish Trysten Hill DT
We use some of our future picks and the third we get from trading down in the first to get up into the top of round 2 (it’s ok we’ve got 12 picks) and take a blog fav. Athletic upside, passion for the game, just a real junkyard dog.
R3 Pick #93: Jachai Polite DE
Based on JS comments about DLine depth dropping after round 3 i think they go early and often on that area. Thought about Banogu here but i don’t think he lasts that long, so why not go for broke in a different sense. Polite’s tape is first round calibre, his terrible draft process gives the Hawks a discount to try and get this kid doing what he does well, get on the field and cause havoc.
R4 Pick #125: Trevon Wesco TE
Enourmous TE with surprising quickness that you can do a lot with. A must get imo.
R5 Pick # 160: Tyree Jackson QB
Yes we resigned Russel but a cheap back up is now doubly important so you don’t have to spend any more money on the position. I’m a big big fan of Tyree’s game and his personality, at his best this guy is Cam Newton.
R6 Pick #183: Dereck Thomas CB
I like some of the early round DB options, but this team is at it’s best identifying and developing these guys later on. Thomas fits the mold.
Interesting. I agree with you that Gary will be off the board by 21. I’m still torn on Zach Allen.
I really like this mock. I would replace Tyree Jackson with a develomental OL prospect like BJ Autry but that is splitting hairs.
Thanks man, I did think about adding an Olineman, but ultimately I’m not all the familiar with this OL class after the first couple rounds and I wanted to mention how much i like Tyree one last time before the draft.
My secret crush this year is D’andre Walker. If he had been able to run at teh Senior Bowl and/or the combine I think he’d be getting a lot more chatter. As it stands, I like him in the Bruce Irvin role.
Walker – 6025, 251 lbs, 34 3/8 arms
Wright – 6030, 247 lbs, 34 7/8 arms
Of course we don’t have current run stats on Walker, so its hard to make a direct comparison, but the scouting reports coming out of college are similar. I definitely think a Wright replacement should be on the radar, though it might not be high enough priority this year. Immediate needs on DL/DE and WR may trump replacing Wright.
Then there is the SEC Champ game. The guy nearly took over the game himself.
I certainly would not be upset if the Hawks snagged him on Day 2.
that should say K.J. Wright role….
Already got him penned in my final mock I’m working on!
+1 he has even locked in as my 3rd round selection for a while now in my final mock.
I know its been said before Rob, but you really knocked it out this year with the coverage. With all the craziness and almost daily rumors or transactions, this has been a banner year for you.
If there is anything you need from the community to help keep this going or better support you, please put it out there. I’m sure there are plenty of folks on here that would be willing to contribute.
Thanks Georgia Hawk that really means a lot. My main aim for the next draft season is to refresh the site design.
Well if there is any way we can help, please let us know.
I think it is important to refer what Rob always stresses when looking at the Hawks will to with thier two early picks. They look for unique players and focus more what they can do and what makes them unique than what they don’t do. Even Penny for all the pick has been bashed was unique in his size / speed and ability to get yards after contact that is why PFF had him rated so highly.
That being said I think the Hawks first 2 picks after trade back or at the original 21, 29 slots comes from the following list of 10 players all of whom have been discussed by Rob in depth here on the blog.
#1 Dexter Lawrence (DT / Clemson) There are simply very few humans on the planet who are that big and can move the way he does. Pete wants to run the ball and stop the run first and foremost to then impose their will on the opposition. Last year they fixed the run game. If they want to fix the run defense there is no better way in this draft than picking Lawrence.
#2 Rashan Gary (DL/ Mich) For all the talk recently about his passion, motor and shoulder he is still the most unique DL prospect in this class. He is an off the chart athlete who can play both inside and outside. Think about an ultra athletic Michael Bennet. That is his upside and I think if he is on the board PC will believe his coaching staff can bring this out in Gary.
#3 Brian Burns (Edge/ FSU) I think he is a top 15 lock but if he falls because teams are concerned about his size I hope JS forgoes the trade back and takes Burns who I think is going to be a 10+ sack per year guy. I dont see how he gets past GB or Tenn but you never know I guess if they decide to go offense.
#4 Montez Sweat (DE Miss St) I am not a doctor so I can’t comment on his heart condition but if you would to build a prototype NFL edge rusher it would be Sweat. Tall, long arms, incredible speed and burst with good power and strength. This guy has it all. Still inconsistent on tape but he has a chance physically at least to be a dominant NFL pass rusher.
#5 Jeffery Simmons (DT / Miss St) I have been ranting about him for months so I won’t keep going on about him. Let’s just say if the Hawks draft him with his injury they are basically getting a top 5 player in next years draft for the 2020 squad after his red shirt year. He is a Beast!
#6 DK Metcalf (WR / Miss ) I know he has an injury history, some concentration lapses and poor agility testing. I don’t care and I don’t think Pete will. The Hawks want to be a run first team with play action deep shots. That is where Metcalf excels. While he is learning to run routes and become a complete receiver just focus on letting him stretch the field and in the red zone. Russ has never had a big deep target like that and the upside could be off the charts. Bust potential is huge as well and I recognize that.
#7 Parris Campbell (WR/ Ohio St) They gave up a ton to get Percy Harvin even with all his baggage. Well Campbell is even more athletic than Harvin and is a model citizen off the field with no medical issues. I have no idea if the Hawks can adapt thier scheme to use a guy like Campbell effectively but if they can he would be a real weapon.
#8 Juan Thornhill (DB/ Virginia) a turnover machine who is also a great athlete. Has been linked to the Hawks and I can see why. He is a very unique player and would have an impact Day #1.
#9 Darnell Savage (DB/ Maryland) No one is Earl but physically Savage is almost a clone with that type of speed and physicality for a smaller guy. He has not played like a deep cover 1 guy like Earl however. He is more of a slot cover guy who excels in run support as well. I would love to see him in a Hawks uni.
#10 Terry Mclaurin (WR/ Ohio St) What makes Mclaurin so unique is not only his 4.4 speed, incredible route running and ability to separate but most importantly it is his character. He is exactly the type off player Pete and John have said they search for and want as Seahawk. Anyone who has been around him raves about they type of person he is. Also if you have the best punter in the league why not go get the best gunner in the draft.
So those are my picks for the Hawks first 2 picks depending on trade backs and who is available.
Rob I still think Rashan Gary is going to be a top 10 pick but if he somehow falls to the Hawks as oth yourself and Daniel Jerremiah have predicted I will be really excited.
People question his motor, passion, shoulder and even his Wonderlic (asinine by the way) but his coach Harbaugh raves about him and his own team mate Devin Bush said he would take Gary before he would take himself.
There is a reason why Gary was the #1 recruit coming out of high school. If the Hawks want to replace one physical freak from Michigan with another in Gary it would make a ton of sense. I know he is raw but his potential is off the charts. I keep envisioning him being used like they used Michael Bennett as an inside out guy except Gary is far more explosive.
He will also have chip on his much discussed shoulder if he lasts to #21 as well.
+12
Fingers crossed he is still there at 21.
He’s got a torn labrum in this shoulder. Expected to fall because of it
My Final 2019 Mock Draft
Trades (Hawks end up with their usually 8+)
Hawks Trade #21 to NYG for #36, 96, 109 (Giant move back into Rd #1 to get Daniel Jones)
Hawks Trade #29 to Cincy for #42,73, 111 (Bengals move into Rd #1 to take Wil Grier)
#36 Juan Thornhill (DB / Virginia)
#42 Terry Mclaurin (WR/ Ohio St)
#73 Trysten Hill (DT/UCF)
#93 Deandre Walker (Edge / Georgia)
#96 Ben Banogu (Edge / TCU)
#109 Dru Samia (G/ Ok)
#111 Devin Ozigbo (RB/ Neb)
#125 Trevon Wesco (TE/ FB)
#161 Kaden Elliss (LB/ Idaho)
UDFA
Drew Lewis (LB / Col)
Darwin Thompson (RB/Utah St)
Preston Williams (WR / Col St)
Kyle Phillips (DT/ Tenn)
Matthieu Betts (Edge / Laval)
I would be OK with that draft.
I think Wesco will be gone by 125 though. He is a must have for me. Him or Moreau. Loved the way Moreau handled Ferguson one on one. Totally stonewalled him. That was a bad showing for Fergi…
BBK @ 161 🙂
Great mock, but instead of LB Kaden Ellis I would rather go LB Jahlani Tavai from Hawaii. Missed most of pre-draft evaluations because of a shoulder injury so might be underrated.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUHk3a7aLCY
Most of what I have seen has him as a mid-late day 2 guy.
Tell me I was right later Saturday, Seahawks don’t draft a single player from Udub (GASP). Blasphemy to even think of I know… They do however take Justin Hollins in 4th or 5th 🙃
What I am hoping for is that New England moves up from 31 to our 21. They have 32 and 2 #2’s. If we get their #32 and one of their #2’s the Hawks would have three bites of the apple in the first two rounds. After that we still have #29 and #32 to either pick or move down as needed.
My one and only prediction:
The Raiders will trade up to pick 21 to grab Josh Jacobs. There’s rumors that three teams are very interested in Jacobs. (Eagles, Colts, Raiders) The Raiders will move up to make sure they get their Lynch replacement.
In exchange, we get something like #24 & #106.
Daniel Jeremiah’s final mock has Hawks taking Rashan Gary at 21 and Dexter Lawrence still available at 29. That would be a heck of a two-some.
Well, here goes nothing… 😉
I’m going classic JS draft strategy here. Trade down. Trade down. Trade down. Would anybody really be surprised to hear the same old story from JS once again?: “we had a group of players we liked at 21 and had a chance to acquire more picks, so we felt comfortable moving down in an incredibly deep DL class.”
I’m going to meet Jim Harbaugh halfway on Rashan Gary and say he does fall out of the top 10, but not out of the teens. If he does make it to 21, Seattle takes him IMO. Farrell, Burns, and Sweat are also off the board before 21 in my imaginary scenario.
GB wants to get ahead of BAL for a top WR. JS works his old relationships.
From SEA: R1P21 (261 pts.)
From GB: R1P30, R3P75, R7P226 (261 pts.)
Some team is going to call us about jumping ahead of GB at the end of R1 for a QB (maybe Will Grier). For this mock, I’ll say it’s DEN, who went OL or LB at R1P10 after not finding a partner to trade down.
From SEA: R1P29 (203 pts.) + 2020 R5
From DEN: R2P41, R3P71 (214 pts.)
BUF sees the run on WRs pick up in the 20s, and feel the need to go get Josh Allen a weapon. They have multiple picks in rounds 4, 5, and 7 and so feel comfortable swapping R3 picks and giving away one of their R4 picks to move up.
From SEA: R1P30, R3P92 (239 pts.)
From BUF: R2P40, R3P74, R4P112 (239 pts.)
R2P40: WR Terry McLaurin, Ohio St.
R2P41: DE D’Andre Walker, Georgia
R3P71: DT Trysten Hill, UCF
R3P74: OL Dru Samia, Oklahoma
R3P75: RB Damien Harris, Alabama
R4P112: TE Trevon Wesco, WVU
R4P124: CB Marvell Tell, USC
R5P159: CB David Long, Michigan
R7P226: FB Alec Ingold, Wisconsin
If you don’t like the OL+RB picks in R3, you could sub it out for Christian Miller and a Safety if you want. But I think we need to keep the running game… well… running.
D’Andre Walker is a BAMF who puts on a bit of weight to play base DE opposite Green.
In the end, it’s a “Seahawky” mock through and through: trade down a whole bunch and target players that fit our team’s scheme and personality.
Best of luck tonight!
This is just about the Seahawkiest draft I’ve seen. Not a single player on that list who isnt their kind of guy.
I agree about Gary and Sweat being off the board. I could see one of Burns or Ferrell still there at 21, but that’s not very likely either IMO. I think they would stay and pick either of those if available. Love this draft though TBH. I would very much like CGJ, but I don’t think he would last until 71-75, or I would sub him in for maybe Damien Harris.
*breaking news*
Teams will select players tonight. Some won’t be taken where they’ve been predicted, others will be taken earlier than where they’ve been predicted. BIG if true.
“Dammit pal, you got a good point there!”
‘Oh it’s true, it’s damn true!’
Do you Vince jr even knows what a draft is?
‘Draft?! Around here we…shake it up pal!!l’
“This is a New Day, pal!”
Listen. What we ain’t gonna do is slander the good name of The New Day. 😉
Seriously though, those 3 dudes and Roman Reigns got me back into wrestling.
KofiMania my friend. And pancakes. New Day rocks!
Roman Reigns gets way too much guff. Dude is super talented in the ring and actually has a good personality even if they don’t let him show it on the mic that much.
I like Kofi, have since ’08 when he debuted on ECW, 04-09 is my favorite era from the company, but I wish it was Big E. That dude has main written all over him.
Yup. Wish they’d let him show more drip myself.
Those 2 are my favs. Followed by D-Bry, Orton, Almas, Mysterio (in my top 10 all time), and the Uso’s.
*That should be 02-09
Fun fact about Big E to bring football back into it. He’s still very good friends with Mike Daniels from GB since they briefly played on the same DL at Iowa. Daniels brought New Day to a game last year and he usually brings a group of players to the WWE events in GB.
Remember when the Giants took a RB no. 2 overall?
….and he literally carried the team the whole year.
Carried them into another top 10 pick?
The front office and coaching staff carried them to the dumpster-fire.
I know. Like spending the 2nd overall pick in the draft on a RB.
Barkley is extremely talented. It’s not a knock on him.
And he was a fantastic player? Remember it well.
Right, I mean, everyone said they should have taken a QB (including me), but 12 months on what QB was a franchise player? Josh Rosen? Baker Mayfield was gone. But ya, sure, they should’ve wasted their #2 pick on a bust, because that’s just common sense.
I’m no Vegas oddsmaker, but lets play a game with the possible scenarios. Here’s how I see it:
Stick and pick at both 21 and 29 – 15%
Stick at one of the two places and trade back the other – AKA still use a first rounder – 50%
Trade both back and be completely out of the first round – 30%
Trade up by packaging 21 and a 2020 2nd – 5%
I only see the last scenario happening if somehow a top 5 guy falls. My realistic thought is what Rob presented…stick and pick at 21 and trade 29 back.
I agree with everything and love this draft, EXCEPT, Seattle will take an OL at some point in this draft. Soooo…..
If Connor McGovern comes our way in R3, we will simply take him. No brainer.
Okay, final mock, Robs trades, NFL.com ratings
21- Clelin Ferrell, DE, Clemson
41- Taylor Rapp, S, Washington
87- JJ Arcega-Whiteside, WR, Stanford
93- Zach Allen, DE, Boston College
125- Isaiah Johnson, CB, Houston
160- Isaac Nauta, TE, Georgia
183- Jahlani Tavai, LB, Hawaii
UDFA Olamide Zacchaeus, WR, Virginia
UDFA Derrek Thomas, CB, Baylor
UDFA Nick Brossette, RB, LSU
UDFA Donnell Greene, T, Minnesota
I have to add, that I happily would take Gary at 21, but he won’t be there.
WOW, gee you really really think the hawks would be so lucky to get even 1 udub player? I’d surprised if they all weren’t taken in the top ten. Maybe Gardner minshew can get drafted to coach them too!
My trade downs are Patriots moving up to 21 for 32 and 73 and they grab TE Noah Fant. I’m going to use Rob’s trade down with Denver so they can move ahead of Green Bay to get TE Irving Smith Jr so that’s 29 for 41, 87, and 183. The next trade down is Jacksonville 32 for 38 and 109 and they move up to get WR. So that gives me 38, 41, 73, 87, 109, 124, 159, and 183.
38 Juan Thornhill S Virginia
41 Jaylon Ferguson DE Lousiana Tech
73 Trysten Hill DT UCF could use a pick here to move up and grab him.
87 Chase Winovich DE Michigan
92 Marvin Tell III S USC
109 Gary Jennings WR WV
124 Drew Samples TE UW
159 David Sills V WR WV
183 Alex Barnes RB Kansas
UDFA John Ursua WR Hawaii
Darwin Thompson RB Utah St.
wow..what a haul!!
Thought about Winovich at 87 too, but then the Pats have two R2 picks and R3#10… I cannot see them passing.
They will need a TE to replace Gronk and they are not the only team in need of a TE and I think there will be a run early on them because its a talented group.
After the Draft and may 7 sign Shane Ray and Kearse to a one year prove it deal. if you really want some competition bring in Nick Perry. I went heavy DL cause Jones and Jefferson may be on the short list. I just believe that Jaylon Ferguson and Tysten Hill are absolutely player types Seattle loves to target and it just so happens that we have at DL.
If Seattle ended up drafting Gary at 21, would that be the most obvious choice….. EVER …… in the PC/JS era of Seahawks drafting?
Pre draft visit, some known interest in the player… perhaps it is all a ruse, but somehow I think he might be the pick.
No. Frank Clark was plain as day.
+1 and Gary would be a close second. Dissly was a pretty obvious choice last year too.
True.
U do a mock Trev?
yep it is posted earlier on this thread as my final mock of year. It is what I think will happen not what I hope will happen.
Have the Hawks trading out of Rd #1.
Sadly I think our guy Burns is going to be long gone and they miss on guys like Harry that I really like.
Weird prediction time…
1) Bills take Josh Allen, EDGE, Kentucky at #9 (and stampede the Pats in 2019, because they are so confused)
2) Giants take D.K. Metcalf at #6
3) Chargers take Will Grier at #28
4) Rams take Garrett Bradbury at #31
I have a funny feeling that Clelin Ferrell is gonna be our guy. He could be the next Michael Bennett.
Useful to remember..
“You can’t draft for need,” Arians said this week, via the team’s official website. “You draft for need, you get fired. Draft the best player, and if you’ve got two of them now you’ve got three of them. Just take the best players available for you. Now, if you’ve got four players right there together and one of them is a need, that’s the home run. That’s the home run.”
Everyone drafts for need.
+10000 for example the Hawks would not take a QB or middle line backer even if the top rated guy was available.
Saying you don’t draft for need has to be the dumbest draft comment you hear over and over again.
You think the Hawks trade up to pick Dixon last year if they don’t need a punter. It is just silly but yet you hear it over and over again.
Punter’s and kickers are some of the rare positions that can be filled immediately by rookies directly out of college.
One final time, the link to the visits/interest tracker in case it can be of use to anyone:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1J3d023YdKp9MFv7OQTy0YTssJ65qLd_aB0UJFGVHxPY/edit?usp=sharing
Add Chase Winovich and Gary Jennings.
Thanks again for this Seamode.
HB Devin Singletary too (combine)
Awesome compilation! Thanks Sea Mode.
Glad to see they brought in Tillery for a psych eval. Hadn’t seen that anywhere else. He’s still a guy I’d like as the base down end rolling inside when need be if he can quell any fears about stepping on people’s heads & reading too much literature. I’ve got him as Seattle’s 2nd round pick after grabbing Harry in the late first.
2 teams in the 20’s did extra work on Rashan Gary the last few days, preparing themselves if he slides that far. Which he could.- Charles Robinson
Isn’t there a team we’re all familiar with here who has 2 picks in the 20’s?
the raiders!
Haha. This is fair.
I read into this, Seattle already did their homework, but some other teams are scrambling late in the process to decide if he should be on their board or not.
Rob trying to navigate all of us commenters
https://i.imgur.com/X2eRpj0.gifv
A lot of great mocks on here! My thinking is JS sees a DE that he has a true first round grade on falling to #21. Stick and pick, then trade down. I like the trades Rob has proposed so I’ll roll with it.
R1 #21 Rashan Gary DE/DT
R2 #41 Trysten Hill DT
R3 #87 Christian Miller DE/OLB
R3 #93 Amani Hooker S/NB
R4 #125 Dillon Mitchell WR
R5 #160 Trevon Wesco TE/FB
R6 #183 Derrick Thomas CB
Triple tap into the clear strength of the draft.Fill out the DL with 3 versatile high upside athletes all along the front.
I’m flexible with the Miller pick, like Walker, Winovich, Crosby too. Feel like the late 3rd will yield EDGE value, with a big cliff afterwards.
I’d be happy with Tell or Will Harris if Hooker is gone.
Tried to include an OL and think we’ll draft one, but where?
Seems like all the National media is mocking Gary to the Hawks now. Brooks, Jeremiah, Schrager, Miller etc.
I still think he goes top 15 but that would be so fortunate for the Hawks if he is still on the board.
I keep seeing Dexter Lawrence at the end of Rd#1 as well.
Can you imagine a draft where the Hawks get both Gary and Lawrence! Wow talk about instant rebuild of the DL.
Lawrence will be long gone. Book it.
Agree completely. I still think he and Gary are both top 15 locks. That is why I have the Hawks trading back with both picks out of Rd #1 in my final mock of the year.
Dream Scenario
Pick #21 Burns, Sweat , Gary
Pick #29 Lawrence or Simmons
Day #2
Hawks Trade 2020 2nd round pick from Frank trade to Panthers for a 2019 3rd pick #78 (Hawks have tons of draft capital next year already and Panthers have two 3rd round picks)
#78 DeAndre Walker (Edge / Georgia)
#93 Gary Jennings (WR WVir)
Hawks get their inside out pass rusher with Gary, fix run defense with Lawrence, edge rusher in Walker and eventual Baldwin replacement in Jennings.
Wish there was a way to get Harry or Mclaurin but that would still be a dream draft for the Hawks IMO.
I might win the lottery tomorrow night as well.
Just watched Mayock’s pre-draft interview. Sure seems like they take Haskins with their first pick. I bet they also add P. Cambpell at some point.
A ton of heat around the Raiders taking Josh Jacobs late 1st round. Very interesting.
The SWEAT heart condition was mis-diagnosed at the combine.
WOWZA
source?
Rappaport repored it.
John Clayton just mentioned it as well. Talk about a wildcard now…. no idea how far he drops or rises now with this variable.
This whole thing reeks!!!
So he has no heart condition? Or it is worse than they diagnosed?
The way it was explained, the combine DRs mismeasured his heart or a portion of his heart wall specifically. This created the appearance of added tissue or thickness in the heart wall, which could lead to heart problems under duress or stress or when playing football. He then got a 2nd/3rd opinion and the heart specialist concluded the original diagnosis was 0.5CM off and he actually has a heart wall that is 1.5CM thick, not over 2 CM thick…. thus, more or less normal. In other news, he is a top 15 pick again.
This would put him back into the top 15, meaning if anyone slides to 21, it would be Burns or Ferrell. If John has a R1 grade on either if these guys, he might actually pull the trigger. The current draft value chart shows our R1.29 worth a R2 and R3. Assuming John gets that, several top WRs would be there R2, but not N’Keal Harry.
Tony Pauline connecting Seattle to Jaylon Ferguson – wonder if the strong interest is legitimate or just a smoke screen.
I am not 100% sold on Ferguson, someone change my mind.
He has Great production and since he wasn’t invited to the combine probably will have a chip on his shoulder. He could be that gritty guy they look at. Tysten Hill would be the misunderstood with killer athlete traits. I think both picks would address the future of this DL.
Is Bucky Brooks as annoying to you as he is to me? Good golly miss Molly.
I’m a huge fan of Bucky’s
He’s one of my favorites, but to be fair all of the talking heads are kind of annoying after listening too long.
Not necessarily a mock draft, but I hope at least a few of the following players are Seahawks by Monday:
-N’Keal Harry
-Terry McLaurin
-D’Andre Walker
-Trysten Hill
-Chauncey Gardner Johnson
-Lonnie Johnson
-Gary Jennings
-Daniel Wise
-Foster Moreau
-Trevon Wesco
-Marvell Tell
-Mike Jackson (Miami)
Mock draft
R1 #21 Jeffrey Simmons (DT Mississippi ST.)
I understand that Simmons has an ACL tear. But if you pick him in the 1st round you have him for 5 years instead of 4. I am in it for the long haul. This guy would fit nicely in a rotation with Jarran Reed, Poona Ford.
Tony Pauline’s comment:
Analysis:
Simmons displayed himself as an explosive interior defender who is effective against the run, as a pass rusher or in lateral pursuit. He possesses the size, growth potential and athleticism to develop into a dominant three-down defender at the next level if there are no ill effects from his knee injury.
R2 #41 Jaylon Ferguson (DE, Louisiana Tech)
A sack machine in college with one of the best pressure percentage scores.
R3 #87 Dalton Risner (OT,OG)
Tony Pauline analysis
College tackle best in a small area. Tough, nasty and works through the whistle. Strong, fires off the snap into blocks and easily turns defenders off the line. Quick to process, shows a feel for blocking and immediately picks up assignments. Starts low with good knee bend, quickly gets his hands up and keeps his head on a swivel. Quick in his all-around game, blocks with proper lean and anchors at the point. Shows great awareness and works well with teammates.
R3 #93 Marquise Blair (S, Utah)
If this guy hits you. He will knock you into next Tuesday.
R4 #125 Daylon Mack (DT Texas A&M
Tony Pauline Analysis
Explosive interior defender who can line up at nose tackle or as a zero-technique lineman. Powerful, fires off the snap and plays with excellent pad level. Quickly gets his hands into opponents, keeps his feet moving and runs over talented offensive linemen to penetrate the line of scrimmage. Commands double or triple-team blocks in the middle of the line and holds his ground.
R5 #160 Emanuel Hall Wide receiver
Tony Pauline Analysis
Explosive vertical receiver who displays home run-hitting speed. Quickly releases off the line of scrimmage, has a burst and displays the ability to beat defenders in a foot race down the field. Runs solid routes, quickly gets into breaks and uses his hands to separate from opponents. Displays a sense of timing on receptions, tracks the pass in the air and nicely adjusts to make the errant reception at full speed. Possesses soft hands and the ability to pluck the ball from the air and works to pick up yardage after the catch. Solid downfield blocker.
R6 #183 Jamal Peters (CB, Mississippi St.)
He is reunited with his buddy Jeffrey Simmons from Mississippi State.
Tony Pauline linked Seattle with interest in Peters during the season. He didn’t force many turnovers at Mississippi State but he was tough and physical. He’s 6-2 and 218lbs with 32 3/8 inch arms but he ran a 4.63.
Comments
Would like to see the Hawks add an 8th pick.
Would love to see Trevon Wesco picked.
Sleeper pick: How about Tyree Jackson as a project.
If I get the opportunity tomorrow I will try to come up with UDFAs
Would love to hear everyone’s 10 favourite players not just for the Hawks but for the draft any round or UDFA and 2-3 guys you think are really over rated. (Vol 12, Seamode, Greg H, Millhouse, Kenny etc.) . I love to make a note of guys to follow and see how their careers progress even if it is not with the Hawks.
for example I remember Kenny loved Kyler Fackrell coming out and I did not see it at all. Then he had 3 sacks against us this year and I thought ” I guess Kenny was right about that guy”.
My 10 Favorite Players
1) Terry Mclaurin – Love his game and everything I hear about his character. Just really want him as a Seahawk. Felt the same way about Tyler Locket and the Hawks made it happen. Hope they can strike gold twice.
2)Brian Burns – my favorite pass rusher in the daft. Love his get off, bend and motor.
3) Dexter Lawrence – Instant fix to the run game. People bash his pass rush potential but he is still really one and if nothing else he can collapse a pocket.
4) Kneal Harry – Love his back story and playmaking ability. Will be a highlight reel with Russ I think.
5) Jeffery Simmons- Beast
6) Montez Sweat -Freak
7) Darnell Savage – Plays with such passion. Not Earl but so much like him with regards to intensity and ability to hit for a little guy
8) Justin Layne – CB #1 for me in this draft and a protype Seahawks CB
9) Chuma Edoga – I know it is only practice but when I saw him move at the Senior Bowl all I could see was a starting NFL LT.
10 Dalton Risner (OL/ KSt) Just love his personality and passion for the game.
+ 1 PNW Guy
11) Justin Hollins – I think he will end up being a legit NFL 3-4 LB with 5-6 sacks a year.
#1 Canadian Kid
12)Mathieu Betts (Edge/ Laval) Probably just a UDFA but if he gets a shot I think he makes a practice squad yr #1 and then can be a good situational pass rusher year #2.
3 Over Rated Guys IMO
#1 Daniel Jones – I just don’t get it at all. I would not take him on Day #3
#2 Greedy Williams – All the potential in the world but come on man at least try to tackle someone.
#3 Jaylon Ferguson – See him mocked to Hawks a lot and god I hope not. I see a guy who has a good motor and size but no twitch or bend and that does not translate to the NFL IMO.
My top 10:
1. Kyler Murray
2. Q. Williams
3. N. Bosa
4. J. Simmons
5. D. White
6. R. Gary
7. T.J. Hockinsen
8. J. Allen
9. C. Wilkins
10. D. Bush
My 3 overrated players:
1. E. Oliver
2. Jonah Williams
3. D. Haskins
Have to admit I am a huge Kyler Murray fan too and think he will be a star.
Damn good question.
1. Brian Burns
2. N’Keal Harry
3. Quinnen Williams
4. Noah Fant
5. Chauncey Gardner-Johnson/Juan Thornhill
6. Byron Murphy
7. Chase Winovich
8. Deebo Samuel
9. Jonah Williams
10. Malik Reed
Overrated?
1. Daniel Jones
2. Greg Little
3. Dexter Lawrence
Thanks Vol!
Have to check out Malik Reed I have not seen a thing about him.
A quick shortlist of the guys I’ve really enjoyed over this process, not including guys way out of range…
WR: Metcalf, Mclaurin, Deebo
DB: Savage
DL: Gary, Allen, Tillery, Walker, Hill
Late round guys: Tyree Jackson, Hunter Renfrow (not for the Hawks but he’ll be a good player for a long time)
Oh and Simmons I was late to the party so I forgot about him.
Thanks I need to check out Tyree Jackson.
1.Ed Oliver
2.Devin White
3.Nick Bosa
4.TJ Hockensen
5.Quennin William’s
6.Josh Allen
7.Parris Campbell
8.Devin Bush
9.D.K. Metcalf
10.Jeffrey Simmons
Thanks Ben! Forgot Hockenson you are right he looks like a stud.
Throwing out my mock (used first-pick). Tried to bring some new names into the conversation w/ this one but it isn’t always easy to avoid the athletes we know are slam-dunk fits with this team. Anyways:
Traded 1.21 for Houston’s 1.23+3.22+5.23
Traded 1.29 for San Fran’s 2.4+3.3
Traded 5.21 for Detroits’s 6.7+6.31
The picks:
1.23 – WR Marquise Brown, Oklahoma
2.4 – CB Justin Layne, Michigan State
3.3 – DE L.J. Collier, TCU
3.20 – OL Conner McGovern, Penn State
3.22 – DT Renell Wren, Arizona State
4.22 – DE Jachai Polite, Florida
5.23 – S Will Harris, Boston College
6.7 – LB Otaro Alaka, Texas A&M
6.31 – RB Darwin Thompson, Utah State
And some of my UDFA wishlist (doubt they’ll all be there):
QB Eric Dungey, Syracuse
RB Bryce Love, Stanford
WR Preston Williams, Colorado State
TE Keenen Brown, Texas State
OL Terronne Prescod, N.C. State
OL George Asafo-Adeji, Kentucky
DE Quinton Bell, Prarie View A&M
LB Quart’e Sapp, Tennessee
CB Stephen Denmark, Valdosta State
CB Christ Westry, Kentucky
S Donovan Wilson, Texas A&M
Ok, highly unlikely, but lets have some fun:-)
Trade up to #15 for #21 and the KC 2nd 2020 and select Burns. Washington seems to be high on Daniel Jones but maybe they don´t wanna reach for him at #15. So trading down a few spots seems reasonable.
Trade #29 to the Falcons for #45 and #79. Select Thornhill or Savage at #45 and D´Andre Walker at #79.
Trade #92 to the Packers for #114 and #118. Select Mecole Hardman at #114 and Khalen Saunders at #118.
Select Stanley Morgan or Gary Jennings at #124 and Jimmy Moreland at #159.
In the end, we come up with 7 picks and strenghten key areas.
#15 Burns DE
#45 Thornhill/Savage S/NB
#79 Walker DE/OLB
#114 Hardman WR/KR/PR
#118 Saunders DT
#124 Morgan/Jennings WR
#159 Moreland NB
Do we know if there is going to be a stream on the Hawks war room this year?
Has PC put out any tweets yet with “clues” for the 2019 draft?
I do not normally follow them, but I know some people love having a little extra fun trying to figure out what he is actually telling us via his cryptic tweets.
He usually does that a bit before the Seahawks pick
Nvm the first clue is dropping at noon
Final 1st round Mock
#1 Arizona – Kyler Murray (QB / Ok) Most electric QB to come out in quite a while and another big time QB in the NFC West unfortunately.
#2 SF – Nick Bosa (DE/Ohio St) SF finally get an elite edge rusher.
#3 Wash (Trade w/ Jets) –Dwayne Haskins (QB/Ohio St) Gruden needs a QB with Smith injury and gets his guy with a huge trade up.
#4 Oakland – Quinten Williams (DT / Alb) Bucs get a steal with perhaps the best defensive player in the draft .
#5 TB- Devin White (LB/ LSU) Incredible player at a position of need.
#6 NYG- Josh Allen (Edge / Kentucky) They need a pass rusher.
#7 Jacksonville – Jonah Williams (OL/ Alb) The Jags need to protect their new QB and take Williams way before he should go.
#8 Detriot Lions – Montez Sweat (Edge MS St) Lions need to add more pass rush and get a good one in Sweat.
#9 Bills – TJ Hockenson (TE/ Iowa) The Bill get their young QB a safety blanket with the most complete TE to come out in quite a while.
#10 Denver Broncos – Devin Bush (LB/ Mich) Fangio needs a fast LB for his scheme and has the inside track with this Harbaugh coached stud LB.
#11 Carolina (Trade with Bengals) – Andre Dillard (OT/ Wash St) The panthers desperately need an OT and move up to get the best pass protector in the draft.
#12 Packers – Ed Oliver (DT/ Houston) Oliver’s fall ends and the Packers get one of the biggest boom or bust players in the draft.
#13 Dolphins – Jeffery Simmons (DT / Miss St) The Dolphins are tanking this year anyways and get an impact player for 2020.
#14 Falcons – Christian Wilkins (DT / Clemson) The Falcons get an impact defender with incredible character.
#15 Jets – Brian Burns (Edge/ FSU) Jets run to the podium after trading back and get really lucky to get one of the best pass rushers in the draft.
#16 Bengals – Rashan Gary (DL / Mich) Then Bengals get perhaps the best athlete in the draft in the middle of Rd #1.
17 NYG – Dexter Lawrence (DT/ Clemson) Gettleman added his MLB at #6 and now gets the middle of his DL fixed with a beast in Lawrence.
#18 Vikings – Cody Ford (OL / Ok) Vikings need OL help bad and get a really good one in Ford.
#19 Titans – Clelin Ferrell (DE/ Clemson)Titans get a steal.
#20 Steelers – AJ Brown (WR/ Miss) They replace Brown with a Brown.
#21 Colts (Trade with Seahawks) DK Metcalf (WR / Miss) The Colts move up to get a freak weapon for Andrew Luck
#22 Baltimore – Marquis Brown (WR/ OK) The Ravens get a big time weapon for Lamar Jackson.
#23 Houston Texans- Jawaan Taylor (OT/ Florida) The Texans need to protect Watson.
#24 Raiders – Drew Lock (QB/ Missouri) Gruden gets his QB
#25 Eagles – Greedy Williams (CB / LSU) The Eagles need help in the secondary.
#26 NYG (Trade with Seahawks) Daniel Jones (QB / Duke) Jones is still on the board and the Giants move back into Rd #1 to get in front of SD and NE to get their replacement for Eli.
#27 Raiders – Josh Jacobs (RB / Alb) Gruden gets his RB
#28 Chargers – Darnell Savage (S/ Maryland) The Chargers add an elite free safety to team with Derwin James. Kam and Earl 2.0 (ok maybe not but still a nice duo.)
#29 Bengals (Trade Seahawks) – Will Grier (QB W Vir) The Bengals use the draft capital they got earlier for moving back to move in front of NE to get Grier.
#30 Packers – Noah Fant (TE /Iowa)- The Packers get an incredibly athletic TE weapon for Rodgers.
#31 Rams- Garrett Bradbury (C/ NC St) – The Rams almost have to take interior lineman and Bradbury is the best available.
#32 NE – Kneal Harry (WR/ Ariz St) – Missed out on a replacement for Brady so they get him a weapon. They could move up though to get their guy.
I find it all plausible except that the Steelers would dip back into that gene pool. I think they need defensive help more than anything.
Picking AB’s nephew would be about the most un-Steelers thing I could imagine.
Overall, nice work. Appreciate the effort!
My final mock – Go Hawks!
Not sure Gary makes it to 21, but if he does I think they’ll take him there. If not, who knows…maybe a trade back there too? And I am going with 3 D-Linemen with the first 3 picks in addition to trading for another one! The trades below involving Seahawks players give minimal value for them, but still something. i think they go after some of the other positions of need like RB and OL in UDFA and possibly sign a couple more players – maybe Nick Perry or Danny Shelton? But that could make for a crowded D-Line room!
My huge surprise guess is the Raiders taking Hockenson at #4, which shakes up the draft pretty good! I think Mayock wants to make a splash and Hockenson is the best offensive player in the draft besides Murray.
Original Picks
R1 (21)
R1 (29)
R3 (93)
R4 (125)
R5 (160)
Sea trades 29, CJ Prosise to TB for 39, 107, Gerald McCoy
(640 vs 590)
Sea trades 107, Ethan Pocic to GB for 118, 150, 194
(80 vs 104.2)
Sea trades 118, 160 to Oakland for 107, 218
(86.4 vs 87.2)
Sea trades 150, 2020 7th to NO for 168, 202
(36.4 vs 36.8)
R1 (21) – Rashan Gary, DE Michigan
R2 (39) – Trysten Hill, DT UCF
R3 (93) – Austin Bryant, EDGE Clemson
R4 (107) – Gary Jennings, WR West Virginia
R4 (125) – Dru Samia, OG Oklahoma
R5 (168) – Sheldrick Redwine, S/CB Miami
R6 (202) – Trevon Wesco, TE West Virginia
R7 (218) – Evan Worthington, S Colorado
Pete Carroll @PeteCarroll
#SeahawksDraftClues are back! First one will be announced at noon!
This leads me to believe that Gary or Sweat will NOT be the pick at #21 (assuming they keep that one). Carroll does not put these clues out unless he is 100% sure his guy will be available. Simmons possibly, but there is no way you can be sure that Gary or Sweat will be available.
Were connections made from last years’ clues to to selection of Penny?
I’m sure it would have been easy to figure out in hindsight, but Penny was largely seen as a late 2nd to 3rd rounder as opposed to other runners like Chubb, so it’s reasonable for Carroll to assume that Penny would be available at the end of the 1st with a large degree of certainty.
That’s not necessarily true, Penny was viewed much higher by NFL teams compared to the draft media, according to rumblings post draft. Keep in mind that just because a guy is projected in a certain round by draft analysts, doesn’t mean his stock within the league isn’t completely different.
BB was supposedly very high on Penny and would have picked him over Michel had he been there
Brock said that he’s not sure that Football is Rashan Gary’s true passion. Did you know that Gary has started his own Sports company to represent himself and another player.
“Gary is one of many college football players to leave early for the NFL Draft; he will not play in Michigan’s upcoming Peach Bowl against Florida; however, starting his sports agency at a young age is a largely unique move that shows he’s thinking about more than just football in his future.”
https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/2019-nfl-draft-michigan-star-de-rashan-gary-is-starting-his-own-sports-agency/
The concerns on Gary’s passion are overplayed — I mean even Brock admitted that last night he was thinking about Gary and Seattle.
Fun and well reasoned stuff to read. Thanks.
I kind of agree with you about the first round for the Hawks. My best guess is that there is a decent chance SOMEONE they like a lot (probably a DLman) falls to them at #21, whereas they don’t believe he will fall to pick #29. I also think they will want to add to their draft capital, and thus trade pick #29 to some team looking to move up. This seems my likeliest scenario. The others in order would be:
2) Trade down with both first round picks and really bolster their draft capital
3) Trade the #21 pick for more draft capital and make a pick with the #29 pick
4) Utilize both first round picks for two players they really like
Now it’s time to find out. 🙂
#SeahawksDraftClues incoming @12
Was the first clue ‘Lean On Me’ by Bill Withers?
A classic 😁
Damn Nick Bosa scrubbing his tweets.
Calling Trump the “GOAT” ain’t gonna help your brand in SF.
Can’t wait for our OL to get their hands on him
Is Bosa goes to San Francisco that means Zona took Williams, TBH
I heard rumblings of Sol Thomas on the trade block could come to fruition.
Also heard AZ wants SF to trade up to #1 😂
Or in the locker room.
First clue is in!
He says we did so bad with the gifs last year that he decided to go back to the music.
In honor of Motown 60 year anniversary he’s stickin w Motown for the whole draft.
First Pete does a rendition of Lean On Me by Bill Withers on a keyboard. It’s only half bad.
Withers is from West Virginia.
Will Grier at 29 confirmed?
Not sure if clues are in order of picks; if not, maybe Cajuste or Jennings.
He said 1st round.
He also said Frankys gonna be a Hawk
If we are wise. We know that there’s always tomorrow.
Quadruple trade back confirmed
Two picks, one clue. See you on day 2 confirmed
LOL
More specifically, he’s from Slab Fork, WV. Fork –> “Forks up” –> ASU WR N’Keal Harry…
Or, at least that was one of the more round about and interesting theories in the Draft Clue comments.
Could be a hint to Boston College… Chris Lindstrom
“Lean on me” is all about picking up another when they are down and/or struggling. Who had a real rough year? In reality this could be anyone. But, for the sake of guessing along these lines of helping another when they are down on their luck, I’d say this is reference to T. Hill, DT from UCF who really must have had a rough year being demoted from stud to bench. If they are drinking his kool-aid based on his great combine and quality tape, I’m betting they’re saying “don’t worry friend, we’ll get ya and earlier than people think –tomorrow — early rd 2.” Of course, I’m probably wrong.But, we are all probably wrong and Pete is simply laughing at us. Go Hawks!
The safe bet is for us to trade back with 21/29. With 12 picks next year I wonder if we don’t trade up this year. Without Clark we are a bottom third pass rush team. Are we gonna find “the guy” at 21 or later?
PC falls in love with Quinnen Williams, and we give up 29 and a first, second, and third next year in a trade with the Jets.
First of Pete’s Clue’s….Bill Withers….. Lean On Me……lyric from the song “There’s always tomorrow”. Trade out of first round for more collateral ? Outstanding production Rob, as always, this year, i’ll buy you a few beers in the way of becoming a patron. I’m addicted to this magnificent site. I’m up the road from you in Newcastle upon Tyne, if your ever up this way doing some work for the Beeb, let me know and we’ll chew the fat over a couple of cold one’s. Keep up the great work fella!!!!
1st round pick he said.
MoTown is famous for coming from what city? Detroit. What state is Detroit in? Michigan.
What do guys in the trenches tend to do? ‘Lean’ on one another.
Pete’s like “Caaaall meee (to trade)”
Could be it too.
‘Call on me brother when you need a hand, we all neeeed someone’
Or a CB could ‘Lean’ on the receiver.
Bill Withers is from Forms Road, W. Virginia?
Road= Lane= Justin Layne?
Has anyone ever reverse engineered past clues and “solved” them retroactively?
Or has Pete ever revealed the answers after the fact?
Yeah p much every year someone ends uo doing this
‘Lean’ as in a lean body type? Brian Burns?
Love that Pete takes this risk (albeit a very slim one) every year just for some fun. That’s what Pete and John are good for. Seahawks are a fun team.
Yeah Draft Days are usually kind of anxiety riddled yet still somehow boring affairs for teams, but I love that Pete brings in levity to the situation. Football is a game, it should be fun.
Just a quick one Rob, Patron charges in USD. I’m absolutely fine making my contribution through that, you throughly deserve it for the quality time and content you dedicate, and for the time I spend reading your work, but is there a way to make the contribution in GBP ?
I’m not sure Davy I’ll have a look. Anyone else know in here?
You should get a btc address for donations as well
LEan On me (LEO)
Brian Burns, because some people think he’s too lean
Good thing I start work at 1.
Boo Goodell for me
New Draft Clue is ‘What’s Going On’ by Marvin Gaye
Where did he go, where is he….. Parris Campbell
Marvin Gaye also performed in Columbus Ohio….
And Marvin Gaye moved to Belgium IIRC. Obviously Paris is in Europe.
That’s ‘lean on me’ that he’s playing. Or did I miss something?
One of the guys slipping due to injury/medicals. Sweat, Gary, Simmons.
“What’s Going On” with them?
There is a bachelor’s thesis about Motown of that name… written at Boston College.
Rob,
Do you plan on doing a quick reaction podcast or Google hangout after each day of the draft or just one big one at the end? Or possibly neither and just do the usual wrap up articles?
This is real talk
“I’d 100 percent rather go 32nd to the right team than No. 1 to a bad team,” Lock said. “If that happened (being drafted by the Patriots), I’d be honored for sure. Tom (Brady) is obviously there for a couple more years, but to be able to sit behind a guy like that and learn from one of the best quarterbacks of all time — if not the best — I think that’s an ideal situation for any quarterback.”
Thanks Rob, don’t worry about it, it’s next to nothing on the exchange rate, happy to make my contribution in USD. Not for publication please….I work in the contact centre in Newcastle for British Airways. Myself and my wife try to go across to the US every year to take in a Hawks game, she puts up with a lot haha…and we get discount for Family and Friends called Hotline. Drop me a personal email if you wish before your next planning on heading stateside, and i’ll give you my log in details to check if there’s anything that works for you/and your family. Sometimes the saving is very good, others not so, but it’s always worth having a look. My work email too, if you ever need it, is David.1.kuik@ba.com. Kindest regards, Dave
Posted this in the wrong thread…
Good news SDB. I’ve cracked Carroll’s first clue. He was playing Lean on me, which of course was a movie starring Morgan Freeman in 1997. One of the most iconic scenes from that movie is when Freeman’s character finds a group of boys hanging out in the restroom and makes them sing the school song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aN0hLz1ctOI
Upon hearing that they were singing a version of the song, Mr. Clark marches the boys into the music teacher’s class to confront her about changing the way the draft, I mean song has always been done. Ms Powers (played by the hyphenated: Sandra Reeves-Phillips) confesses that she did change it, and he says: “Take a bow Ms. Powers. You’ve just re-written our Alma Mater.”
Since ET, the Hawks have never spent a high pick on a CB. That changes with the hyphenated Chauncy Gardner-Johnson.
The other take is that Lean on Me, would have an acronym of LOM. This of course is short for Lommy, the boy from Game of Thrones who was killed in Season two by the Character Polliver, with the sword Needle. I thought that perhaps Polliver rhymes with Tolliver, as in Cy Tolliver from Deadwood, who of course stabbed a junkie named Leon (Leo), but it felt like a thread that you keep pulling and in the end the original piece just unravels. The it hit me that, that was the point. The Needle and Thread, which we all know is a cocktail bar in Seattle. The quirky thing with this bar is that it is accessed through a bank vault in the Tavern law pub. Bank vault – lock down. No, too easy. What’s the biggest ‘bank vault’ in the country? Everyone knows it is Fort Knox. After chasing down some dead ends, it hits me! What is stored in Ft Knox? Gold! Who is the only borderline 1st round pick that fits our needs and wears a helm of gold? Jerry Tillery.
So there you have it. It’s either CGJ or Tillery. On to the next.
Rob,
We all can’t say this enough, THANKS! I discovered this site 6-7 years ago and now I check it every single day both for the content you provide and from all the other great commenters as well. I used to be a “First Round” kinda guy and now find myself watching the later rounds and knowing all the names and watching/waiting for the right “Seahawky” player to fall to us. It was refreshing not having to agonize this year over every wTEF offensive linemanthat came up on the board…
Have we been slightly overlooking Chase Winovich? If it comes down to 1/4” that may not be terribly significant at the top of the 2nd… fills an obvious need.
Feel like we’ve discussed him pretty thoroughly. I know me and Rob have talked about to each other quite a bit.
He’s always been on the periphery of the discussion, but never taken too seriously as a Seahawks target in my estimation. Let’s put it this way: if he ends up being a selection we will not have discussed him quite as much as we should’ve, compared to the other possibilities.
Rapoport reporting he has heard Colts potentially interested in moving up with Hawks, 26 and change for 21.
Yes, please! Parlay our two 1sts into four 2nds and some 3rds + change. Or draft Gary/Sweat. Either way I’m happy. But I’d love to maximize the 2nd and 3rd rd.
Agree MCIBM…would take that for sure.
Only if “our guy” isn’t there whe we get to 21.
Absolutely! Would love Simmons personally, but La Canfora was debating he thinks it may be him that Colts move up a few places for. In JS/PC we trust.
+12
“You can’t hurry love” by The Supremes!
They had 12 #1 hits. LOL
Holy sh**t! Terrible news about Jaylon Ferguson.
???
He’s not hurt or anything, but is affected by the tornado that hit his region of Louisiana and is looking/searching for loved ones. NFL teams also have no way to get in contact with him.
Tornado hit his hometown in Louisiana. Joining search and rescue efforts to locate loved ones. He’s apparently unreachable to any NFL team due to the tornado.
That’s horrible. Hope everyone is OK.
If Jachai Polite is there in the 4th and we have taken a DL, WR,and Nickel do you take a shot at him? I feel like his major crime was taking bad advice and not knowing how to deal with the criticism that followed.
Bill Withers visited Pete Carroll at USC some years ago. Marvell Tell?
Each clue has involved an artist that eventually lived in Los Angeles California.
Just wanted to add my thanks to the chorus of appreciative fans who flock to this site for accurate and rational discussion. Bravo Rob!
With what happened to Jaylon Ferguson, is that the 1st clue?
Pete is also hitting the C & G keys on the piano and Bill Withers had 3 names.
Lost his dad when he was 13 who also served in the military as did Clellin Ferrell and his dad.
And the obvious Motown/Michigan connection even though Withers wasn’t a Motown artist.
GauxGaux mentioned ‘Lean On Me’ could be an acronym for LEO, again with the Motown/Michigan thing, and the Marvin Gaye song does have a lyric about being misunderstood and long hair.
appreciate the shout out V12, thanks!
The 3rd clue ‘You can’t hurry love’
ND CB Julian Love or Stanford HB Bryce Love is too obvious right?
Who’s from Detroit in this class?
“Easy” from the Commodores
anyone with the nickname easy?
Not his nickname but Joejuan Williams from the Vanderbilt Commodores. His backstory is also pretty incredible.
The draft is in Nashville after all
“You can’t hurry love
No you just have to wait”
You just have to wait. Because we’re trading down tonight.
Could be. One of these clues is definitely them moving back.
I’ll be happy with Wino if we can add volume in R2&3
I think my favourite part of the draft is seeing good players falling and getting exited that they could be there for us. Also love it when a team makes a head scratching decision and you can just laugh at them. There’s always surprises and that’s what makes it so exciting.
Trade Predictions
Seattle Seahawks #21 and # 124 for Indianapolis Colts #26 and #89
and
Seattle Seahawks #29 for New York Football Giants #37 and #95
I think the FO would love that scenario, good call.
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The Cardinals have had discussions today with agents for each of the top 3 prospects on their draft board (Kyler Murray, Nick Bosa and Quinnen Williams), according to multiple sources. I’m told the team is still keeping its plans close to the vest.
2:47 PM – 25 Apr 2019
two hours to go. Feel like a kid in a candy store. Best three days of the year.
LOL. The ‘draft guru’ is hot ya’ll.
Can’t wait for Seattle to select someone and he’ll say ‘I just knew they were gonna do that’ and reference some obscure/vague a** tweet.
FWIW, Albert Breer is heading that Seattle would to get a C in this draft.
* hearing Seattle would love to get a C
Albert probably needs a new source.
Seems way too left field that. ‘We have no picks or D-liners… let’s replace Justin Britt!’
It’s our day guys!!! Rob the fearless leader of our hawks draft addiction. we get to enjoy this draft that much more knowing the professor Peabody of draft analysis has given us his wisdom.
MY – 2019 NFL DRAFT – FINAL MOCK DRAFT – 4/25/2019 – On Draft Day!
I’ve added a couple of trades beyond just Rob’s trade of #29 for #42,#87,#183. My total picks = 10.
(xxx) = Reference to Current (draft day) rankings at cbssports.com.
—->#21——->Trade #21 to LAC for #28, #91 & #200 (SEA 800-points , LAC 807-points.)
#28—–FS-Chauncy Gardner-Johnson(40) (valuable & versatile chess piece in a pass happy league.)
—->#29——->Trade #29 to DENVER for #42, #87 & #183 (This is Rob’s proposed trade of #29.)
#42—–EDGE-Jaylon Ferguson(56) (Production was not a mirage, he’s actually pretty darn good.)
#87—–DL-Anthony Nelson(98) (Size, length & disruption, what’s not to like?)
#91—–DT-Trysten Hill(182) (Should fit right in as a rotational DT and have a ++ 1-st year impact.)
#92—–EDGE-Maxx Crosby(178) (A + traits developmental guy w/+ upside, see note below.)
—->#124——->Trade #124 to CINN for #135, & #199 (SEA 48 points, CINN 49.4 points.)
#135— WR-Gary Jennings(165) (a position of need – & a very good WR that will fit nicely.)
#159—-S/CB-Marvel Tell(168) (The “special of the day” a new toy at DB for PC to coach up.)
#183—-DT-Cortez Broughton(310) (Really FAST 3-tech’s off the LOS, my sleeper pick for this draft!)
#199—-TE/FB-Trevon Wesco(322) (Fits their system & needs as a later round blocking TE/FB pick.)
#200—-RB/WR/KR-Tony Pollard(213) (True 3-rd. down RB, that can run & catch well + KO returns.)
PRIORTY-UDFA’s: CB-Derrek Thomas(309), OG-Phil Haynes(306).
UDFA’s: LB-E.J. Ejiya(280), WR-Johnnie Dixon(292), QB-Easton Stick(308), OT-Yosuah Nujman(333), CB-Stephen Denmark(NR), CB-Jamalcolm Liggins(NR), LB-Kaden Elliss(NR) & WR-Thomas Ives(NR).
NOTE- “Maxx Crosby”; (per PFF) “”Only one other FBS edge defender (NIU’s Sutton Smith) has recorded more pressures than Crosby over the past two years than Crosby, logging a whopping 112 pressures (72 hurries, 22 hits, 18 sacks) across his 593 pass-rush snaps. His 20.6 pass-rush win percentage and 18.9 pressure percentage rank 11th and tied for third among the 121 FBS edge defenders with 400-plus pass-rush snaps across 2017 and 2018.””
EDGE-Maxx Crosby is MY #1 draft crush in this draft & DT-Cortez Broughton = MY “sleeper pick” in this draft. I know, CJG may be a pick that some will disagree with, I just have a BIG gut feeling he’s a target. I approached this draft with the concept that the Seahawks have several major holes to fill at EDGE, DT, DB & WR. This mock draft addresses a lot of those needs. I believe double dipping is a smart way to go to insure those holes get filled with the best players available.
The Donnelly’s pub cam was epic!