Today marks the start of my 2021 draft interview series.
Last year I spoke to a number of players, coaches, former GM’s and media pundits — including Damien Lewis, Scot McCloughan, Michael Lombardi, Jim Nagy, Tony Pauline, Brian Baldinger and many others.
My first interview this year is one of the my favourites so far. LA Tech’s star defensive lineman Milton Williams is explosive, quick and he’s set for a great combine performance.
He’s also, as he revealed during the piece, a Seahawks fan.
Please check out the interview below and if possible, like the video on YouTube to help promote it.
I’ve also got two more interviews lined up with players you’ll be very familiar with if you’ve been following the blog since the summer…
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Love it. These are my favorite posts. Great insight to the player’s character and love of the game.
Good work, Rob. Milton looks really strong, hope he’s still around when we get to pick.
That was fantastic.
Glad you enjoyed it Iain, thanks for listening
Love this dude. That’s an awesome interview.
Thanks for watching Matt.
Can everyone please check this out, like the video and show your support for the draft series?
was gonna write exactly the same thing!!
Brilliant stuff. I look forward to the rest
Thanks Dave.
Got two lined up I’m really excited about. Will reveal names when they’re recorded.
Rob, you outdid yourself on this one, such an excellent interview along with the format and play highlights. I seriously wish we could get this guy on our team…total Seahawk!
Thanks Tom — Milton’s a great guy so glad people enjoyed it.
Great work Rob. Enjoyed that very much.
Where does he fit best on the DL in Seattle’s defense? 5-tech?
Could play inside
3T ??
Rob,
Really like Williams. Loved the part of you going over plays with him.
Thanks
Great interview Rob. I’m looking forward to many more of these! I also like the fact that you’re doing these interviews earlier in the draft process.
Thanks!
Penny a late addition to the injury report, Seahawks bring Alex Collins up from the PS for the game.
https://www.seahawks.com/news/alex-collins-elevated-from-practice-squad-for-seahawks-wild-card-game-vs-rams
Collins looked good with nice burst in the game last week….
he definitely can handle the rock if necessary. Penny, smdh
I feared the worst with Penny, when watching him go down, holding his knee.
I was then happy for both him and the team when Pete said it was only “a cramp”.
Has there been any sort of an elaboration from the team on what, exactly, the issue is?
Obviously he isn’t still cramping up, if that was ever the issue at all.
It’s clear he was cramping during the Niners game because he was immediately pulling his toes back. That’s what you do with cramp.
I suspect at practise this week his knee either feels sore or he’s tweaked something. I imagine they are being cautious with a player who has just had a year out and Alex Collins played well last week.
I was really envisioning Penny turning it up the last few weeks to hopefully alleviate some of the pressure of either retaining Carson or drafting a RB this offseason. Although I feel he has potential I don’t see him being our every down back of the future. Russ struggling without the running game this season was one too many times for me to believe that he can survive without a top ten back in the NFL. I feel it will be a tremendous challenge for PCJS to navigate this offseason, if JS even stays for another year…
Great interview!
Love to hear directly from the players.
I love that he might be in draft range for us because theres no highlight compilation on youtube. But the way he was talking it sounds like he may have a Mekhi becton ascension.
Thanks for watching
I would like a Milton please. I know I said I thought drafting a DT early was a luxury, but it looks like it could be a sweet spot for the position mid-late R2.
I don’t see DT as a luxury pick because I think the Seahawks back-up DTs are among the worst in the NFL and all of us complain about Reed and Ford having to play too many snaps.
With a position like needing two DTs (even though it’s not the exact same role) – you pretty much need 3 starters because it’s much different than the interior OL where you hope your guys play in 100% of the snaps.
Love reading these:
https://www.theplayerstribune.com/posts/carlos-dunlap-seattle-seahawks-nfl-football
Wow, thanks for sharing!
Humble. Hungry. Special.
Extend Carlos… and hire the Valet Dude.
Thanks for posting this Denver, that was a great read and I feel even more excited for Dunlap now. I hope we make it all the way through the playoffs and get to the big dance, not just for me as a Hawks fan but for our players like Carlos and Jamal and the entire team. A fan can dream!
Good luck today Seahawks! Make a statement with this game!
“bobby is a first ballot hofer no debate.”
Actually, I can’t see him making it 1st year he is eligible. 2nd or 3rd year, I believe he is a near lock, but 1st year…. not very likely. He has some of the qualifications, AP and PBs, but he doesn’t have the sexy stats such as sacks or interceptions or FF….
All this being said, one of the top MLBs in the last 20-30 years.
Maybe so, probably depends on who else is on the ballot.
He has a couple more years to pad stats. That said, he plays an old school position at ILB. He’s not supposed to get many sacks or interceptions. He is supposed to rack up tackles and stop plays.
He’s a 6x all-pro, including 5 in a row- which is nearly unheard of for any position. One of the best players on a Super Bowl winning, all-time defense. I think he comps closely to Urlacher with respect to HoF profile; he made it on his first ballot.
It seems to me, nationally, he doesn’t get the respect from the media he deserves.
But AP nods tell you that his fellow players know a great player when they see one.
KJ and Bobby have both been outstanding for Seattle for 10+ years. Truly amazing.
I hope we can squeeze 2-3 more years out of them….. because they are fun to watch.
KJ is the unsung hero as far as I’m concerned. The Rodney Dangerfield of LBs.
If Jason Taylor was first ballot HOFer, then Bobby is easily a first ballot guy. Heck, Bobby is/was better than Urlacher (maybe not by a lot) and he was first ballot, too.
Bobby is pretty much the only defensive player on the LOB defense to be first ballot. I think Sherman and Thomas eventually get in, but not first ballot.
ET was on track to easily be first ballot until he went psycho and the Seahawks didn’t want to extend him, the Ravens paid him to leave and nobody else even wants anything to do with him (he turned into a horrible teammate and that’s the exact same reason TO wasn’t first-ballot either).
REMINDER
Saturday, Jan. 9
Indianapolis Colts at Buffalo Bills (1:05 p.m. ET on CBS)
Los Angeles Rams at Seattle Seahawks (4:40 p.m. ET on FOX)
Tampa Bay Buccaneers at Washington Football Team (8:15 p.m. ET on NBC)
Sunday, Jan. 10
Baltimore Ravens at Tennessee Titans (1:05 p.m. ET on ESPN/ABC)
Chicago Bears at New Orleans Saints (4:40 p.m. ET on CBS/Nickelodeon/Amazon Prime)
Cleveland Browns at Pittsburgh Steelers (8:15 p.m. ET on NBC)
I’m nervous . . .
Hot start by rams offense on some sharply scripted opening series, a turnover on some sack play by the Rams D-line . . .
Playoff stakes are here.
whatever happens tomorrow, I just hope we aren’t embarrassed.
Oddly enough I feel like we pile on them a bit. Us by 14 pts.
Under 6 point game to me….. probably a 4th quarter game.
Unfortunately I have to agree. No expectations from me tomorrow, will need to see it to believe it.
How can you have no expectations?! We’re going up against a backup qb. We should expect to win. Losing would be a huge disappointment.
I’d bet that Goff starts, he’s been taking snaps and throwing.
I’m thinking we may see both play… special packages for the back-up, to take some pressure and snaps off Goff…. especially if he gets heated up with Seahawks pressure early.
we almost lost to a game playing a 3rd string qb. we dont have the best luck going up against backups either, just sayin, I want us to blow them out, but you know, its the rams.
A loss today and in my eyes the season is an abject failure.
abject failure? disappointing, yes. but, abject failure… really? this is exhausting.
Whether it’s abject or not, it’s hard to argue that a first round playoff exit wouldn’t be a failure.
Good stuff Rob. Haven’t been around for a few days, so dug the mock. You’ve definitely got a few players tagged higher than others. Leatherwood comes to mind.
All I can say is thank heaven my partner is a football fan. January weather, Covid 19, and 6 NFL playoff games. Tra-la-tra-la…
Seems like a great kid and player. Good find. Hopefully he drops to us or at least he bumps someone like Garrett or Twyman to us.
On KJR 950 earlier today, they were talking about why the Seattle offense has such trouble moving the ball on the Rams passing defense. Essentially, they play a cover 4 version of a zone defense. It take away deep throws or chunk plays, which Seattle utilizes very effectively ….. making Seattle grind it out…. and if 3rd downs are a problem, holding the point total down, enabling the Rams to stick around until the end. They rely on their safeties to play slightly closer to the LOS than a quarters defense, so they can cheat down to help with running plays. This is also a way to cover up crossing routes more effectively than a cover 1 or cover 3. Interesting stuff.
Very interesting and thanks for sharing.
Any Xs and Os guys able to jump in here and explain the best way to combat this? I’d presume a consistent run game would help draw the safeties in a bit further making them more vulnerable over the top. Another good tactic that Schotty does not employ nearly often enough imo, would be to send the WRs deep and throw a screen to Carson. The near middle should be open.
I believe Dave Wyman did a football 101 on youtube discussing this as well…. or at least explaining the various defenses Seattle faces and how they are built to combat (SEA O) what they do well and what they do poorly. The idea that you can build out a game plan built around route combinations that beat certain looks…. the whole point is that when you indeed get that look, you have to capitalize on it… for chunk plays.
I want Big Milt on the Seahawks so bad! What a great interview with a driven young man. Liked and shared the video and I’m looking forward to the rest of the series.
Thank you 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Random question here but seeing HIM I just ask. If the same trade was offered for chase young instead of Jamal Adams would you do it and why?
Yes. He’s signed up for more years at lower base & at a more premium position. We had safeties. You pair him up with Dunlap. Now that’s nicely set up. We have to scheme for Adams. Young and Dunlap can just play, no need to scheme blitzes. With those 2. Reed and Poona I think our front 4 gets pressure like we want.
Too me an easy choice of Young over Adams.
Great interview. He’s impressive and likable.I wouldn’t complain if he was the selection at 59.
DK Metcalf….
17 forced missed tackles (WR ranking 4th)
Very interesting.
Wish he was getting the David Moore end arounds/bubble screens. We need to get the ball in his hands either way
No no no, establishing the weapon that is David Moore is far more important.
Actually it is in a way…DMo gets targets because he is covered by lesser DBs so his window of opportunity is higher. That’s why I think we need to get a better WR3 and let DK and Tyler do the heavy lifting. Josh would have been great there but alas…
As Penny is stood down for the upcoming Wildcard Round, is anybody else getting a sick C.J. Prosise feeling in the pit of their stomach? Also, a strange urge to release tension by watching Irish dancing?
Probably just pre-Ram anxiety disorder; I admit to a case of nerves over this one.
Yeah I’m in the about to give up on Penny ever being a worthy first rounder category.
Not just yet for me. That was a major injury and it takes a lot of work to get back to 100% from it but we know it is possible. It’s nice having Alex in the wings though…and Hyde.
is he not playing today?
Love these interviews Rob. These take the blog to another level. Pls get more! One on the Hawks unique culture and/or way coaching-personnel hires really work would be great!!
Thanks
After all the suffering we have been put through this regular season I think we deserve an easy playoff win tonight. Will we get a win, maybe. Will it be easy, absolutely not. If we fail to move past the Rams tonight I think the “reset” has officially failed and serious questions need to be asked AND answered. Anyway, whether it’s Wolford or Goff I hope we bury them tonight.
I’m already over him as a RB. Most everyone on the site has a pick from the past that still frustrates them til today. Like Bobby and TJ Watt, not picking Nick Chubb who was built from PC’s mind for a guy with none of Chubb’s numbers and proven talent including proving the mental resolve of returning from injury shows a weakness in their scouting and decision making.
I’m in the minority of seeing the last couple drafts as moves forward, LJ and Penny haven’t had the best injury luck to start their careers, but it feels like they’re been more true to their type of player on and off the field. It’s easy to criticize a couple years later, when other players you’d have rather seen them take find success but we don’t know how these kids interview and only know the biggest details on character defining traits. I think it’s a given JS and PC deserve some credit for finding personality’s that have put football as number 1 in their life where they aren’t out at the party catching Covid or drag racing. LJ just very quietly does a great job anchoring the edge and makes the LBERS jobs easier, and a healthy Penny makes game breaking play’s whenever given the chance. He had a great game against the Rams last year as elite vision and burst bails out the offense when the grinding attack isn’t working, and the personal on offense isn’t suited to a west coast style offense. Sure, Chubb has been great and Penny has been hurt but their was no history of injury for Penny and Chubb never had elite vision. Chubb runs behind the best offensive line in the league, and there offensive personnel allow them to attack every inch of the field.
I’m sorry… but there’s a lot of forced stuff here to try and justify Penny over Chubb that simply doesn’t cut the mustard.
And LJ Collier is a bang average defensive lineman. You don’t draft those in R1.
Any complaints about the two picks are fair game.
It’s not even trying to justify Penny over Chubb. He’s an electric player when healthy, and I’d feel a lot better about the Rams game with the home run threat he is. LJ I look at like a Tyson Alualu type, not sexy but if you can get a anchor for the next ten years, who makes everything else function around them why isn’t it worth a first round pick? Maybe it’s the old guy in me, but remembering the failure of the “dream team” 2 I have the impression it’s more about finding complementary parts than superstars. I think not having Penny available for this match up sucks as I think he was drafted specifically to counter what the Rams take away from this offense (chunk plays). Hopefully I’m wrong, but the Rams have me worried with being really good at taking away the deep ball and having Donald wrecking havoc at the line. We NEED some chunk plays from our RBs today, to hit that soft spot in the Rams defense.
LJ Collier isn’t anything like Tyson Alualu though. I’ll just break down each players’ combine workouts:
LJ Collier
Weight: 283lbs
Forty: 4.91
Three cone: 7.71
Short shuttle: 4.78
Vertical: 30 inches
Broad: 9-10
Tyson Alualu
Weight: 295lbs
Forty: 4.87
Three cone: 7.15
Short shuttle: 4.43
Vertical: 35.5 inches
Broad: 9-8
Alualu is a totally different athlete.
Further to that, Collier had three sacks in 16 games this season. His PFF grade was a bad 59.2. He was ranked as the 92nd best player at his position this year. His run defense grade is a terrible 57.7. There is no evidence that he is providing any kind of anchor or helping anyone else.
That simply isn’t good enough for a first round pick.
And when you criticise Chubb’s vision but go to great lengths to defend Penny — who at no point has looked like RB1, even when healthy — it does sound a lot like you’re trying to justify one over the other.
It’s not apples to apples comparison, I love Nick Chubb as a player and wanted him on draft day. I can see the point of view that Penny creates unique challenges to a defense that are different (not better) than Chubb, and as a 1-2 punch with Carson offers unique versatility a defense has to account for. Chubb and Carson smash mouth style isn’t dependent on being able to see the entire field, in quite the same way as a home run threat see’s things. Chubb is a better player than either of them, but as a defensive coordinator I’d struggle more trying to figure out how to scheme against Carson/Penny tandem more. Wow, LJ PFF grade sucks. Pretty much impossible to argue with that grade, but he’s came up clutch a couple times this year so let’s hope he does again today!!
It’s OK just to acknowledge that Chubb is a far better player and should’ve been the pick.
Completely agree, Frank. LJ and Rashaad have obviously fallen short of expections so far. It’s fair to criticize the philosophy of those picks — drafting for need, it seems, with an eye to limit downside (LJ being an older prospect and Penny with a good injury record). But sometimes our criticisms of draft strategy are inconsistent. (This is separate from subjective opinions on individual prospects — though I guess you could argue that a professional team armed with scouts might have better intel there than fans). We love the “home run picks” that involve trading up for falling prospects with spotty injury records. DK, case in point. And yet we hate the Derrell Taylor pick. We sometimes claim to have wanted BPA in hindsight when “fit” picks go south (see LJ, Blair), but then when we draft BPA (Jordyn Brooks) we wanted someone we could plug and play in an area of need? It all gets confusing sometimes. End of rant…
It’s not that at all Wade.
It’s everything discussed in this piece: https://seahawksdraftblog.com/the-three-big-draft-mistakes-that-impacted-seattles-reset
Loved that piece, Rob. And after considering what I wrote above… a front office’s job is to determine *when* to go for the home run or pick for need. As you addressed in your piece, the Hawks have fallen short here the past few years, and it’s hurt them.
Penny put football #1 in his life? When did this happen?
McDonalds >>>> football
But never mind because apparently Chubb lacks ‘vision’
🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
Pete Carroll lacks long-term vision. He had that long-term vision when he took over. It’s gone now. Always Compete for now. Screw the future. Draft picks? Who needs them. lol
Not all of the criticism is 20/20 hindsight tho Frank. I believe it was cha (might have been Bobby) that wanted TJ Watt in the Penny draft and he was available with our pick. A few years back, Rob was high on Joel Bitonio 2nd team all pro this year and Seattle could’ve drafted him. Several people including myself really liked Ryan Kelly a couple drafts back I believe it was and he was also named 2nd team all pro for the Colts this year.
I wanted Watt badly but they traded down twice and settled on Malik. I wasn’t the only one who wanted Watt though. There were 3-4-5 others who were screaming for him. I wanted Chubb over Penny but I wasn’t overly vocal about it because I didn’t know for sure. I think the only two times I’ve been overly vocal on here about wanting/demanding “my guy” was TJ Watt and Jonathan Taylor. Sure, I’ve liked and disliked some guys (have been right and wrong on some) but those two guys I really believed in for when it’s the late 1st round. It’s easy to like guys like a Bosa, but I don’t care about those early picks because the Seahawks won’t ever have any. So it’s focusing on the “sure things” who are going to be there late in the 1st.
For me, watching Taylor go hurt more because we just survived a procession of jobbers and warm bodies with the occasional bright spot in Mikey D and McKissic.
I wanted Taylor too Bobby. I talked about it several ties tho wouldn’t say I was highy vocal about it.
I appreciate that you’re trying to find positives here. I’m just going to focus on a few things I’ve noticed about Penny since the draft process started a couple years back.
1. If you read draft profiles of Penny, while many will comment on his smooth running and speed, the criticisms highlight weaknesses you don’t often associate with PC/JS. I’m not denying that Penny has/had good qualities. I just read what the Seahawks wanted to do at RB, and I don’t understand how the Penny pick fits the bill.
2. His college production was against pedestrian defenses. He was considered to be lethal in the return game, where we don’t use him.
3. You can see the moment JS/PC fall in love with Penny at the Senior Bowl. Whoever was throwing the ball scrambled outside the pocket to find Penny for decent yards. He also had a couple of good outside runs, something we struggled with after Marshawn.
LJ Collier is an old man (for second year players) who is in no way good. All I can say is that he doesn’t suck anymore, so that’s good – but he’s in no way good. He’s made a few nice plays this year and he’s made a second year jump, which has been nice to see, but he’s far from what we’d consider a good player. To me a good player is someone who is an asset but not quite Pro Bowl worthy. An example would be KJ Wright his whole career until he made his first Pro Bowl about 2 years ago. That’s a “good” player and Collier is nowhere near that.
I just see thing from an engineering point of view, always looking for the fail point that breaks the system. LJ is extremely stout, and plays good gap discipline. I’m not arguing that there aren’t other players like Watt that I’d have rather had, just that he allows the rest of the system to work. We’d have two less wins this season if it wasn’t for his ability to anchor the edge, so maybe feel his contribution while they don’t show up on a stat sheet are more than they are given credit for. I’m not starting a fan club or anything, just think what he does for this defense is underrated from a x and O point of view.
There’s nothing to suggest LJ Collier has single handedly delivered two wins.
Losing today to an injured Goff or a back-up nobody QB would be an embarrassment. The season would have been a total failure, even with an impressive 12-4 record and division win. This isn’t the Lions who would be partying in the streets with a 12-4 regular season even if they lost in the Wild Card.
Losing next weekend, no matter how competitive the game, would still result in a failed season (but it wouldn’t be embarrassing like a loss today).
The only way this can be a successful campaign is to make it to the NFC Championship Game, especially considering how they mortgaged all these future draft picks away to play for NOW.
100%, completely and totally agree Bobby.
Lose this week…disappointment/lost opportunity. Lose potentially next week in NO is a failure?
Come on guys…like the Adam’s trade or Taylor draft pick or not, this team is in one of the better positions in the NFC moving forward.
Enjoy the playoffs 🙂
Yes, a failure.
I’m sorry but this is a team that is going to be judged on whether it is seriously competing for the SB.
Making the divisional round or wildcard every year is failure. It’s not mild disappointment.
That’s right. But as a fan will have to take pleasure in what they were able to accomplish.
Why?
I don’t understand that comment.
Why, as a fan, do you ‘have’ to take ‘pleasure’ from a repeat of the last six years?
It’s OK to expect more.
If they lose next week – it’s nothing more than last year; a loss in the divisional round. After that loss the spent a lot of money and mortgaged the future in terms of the draft. So, yes, a loss in the second round is a complete failure. I hope to enjoy the playoffs though with a deep run!
That being said, a loss next weekend and the Saints season would be a total failure, too. They’ve mortgaged the future opposite of the Seahawks (Seahawks have mortgaged their future drafts; Saints have dug themselves into cap hell playing for now). One organization will have resided over a total failure of a season if it is indeed the Seahawks/Saints next weekend.
In my opinion, it would be a failure for NO. They are in terrible shape going fwd; cap hell, vet QB u can’t afford or might retire. They are truly in rebuild mode.
Seattle, we have our issues, but are no where the shape of NO, Philly, etc. To call anything but the Super Bowl a failure is extreme. If that is the case, 31 teams are failures in 2020, including up and coming teams. We played a steep price for Adams…we didn’t mortgage our future.
Bobby K never said, and neither did I, that ‘anything but the Super Bowl is a failure’.
Never getting beyond the divisional round is a failure for this team in their current state.
You’re just being difficult to not at least acknowledge that.
Hawks elevate DT Lattimore from the PS for today. He may be the first rookie UDFA elevated all this season.
Not feeling confident about today. Favorites will go down this weekend, just have to hope not us.
Hopefully that means Reed is on a snap count and not out 🙁
Any given Sunday Elmer. No reason the ball can’t bounce our way !
**(well..actually there are plenty of legitimate conc..Ssshh just drink your beer).
What a kick return by Indy.. Hawks miss special athletes in Kick/Punt returns.
Jonathan Taylor is a pleasure to watch.
that offense runs thru Taylor.
Yep. And we knew that even before the season started. 🙂
Imagine the score of this game if Colts receivers could pull down some of these drops.
Jonathan Taylor
What might have been
*jilted lover crying*
No doubt! What a total “shock” that he’s good/great!
I just have to keep reminding myself that at least Brooks doesn’t look like he sucks like most of the other 1st round bums they draft.
The Jets interviewed Panthers OC Joe Brady for their head-coaching vacancy, the team said. No doubt, Brady has a promising future, but he’s only 31 and has only one year of coordinator/position-coach experience on the NFL level. This would be a bold, outside-the-box hire for the Jets. There are more qualified candidates than Brady; this would be a risky bet on potential. ~ ESPN
The firggin Jets, doing Jets things….
As long as the folks doing the hiring for the Jets don’t change….
Gase was a retread… I think Brady could be good if he hires a good staff. That’s the issue with the younger guys – do they know enough good defensive, ST, OL, etc. coaches who can fill out their staff and be effective advisors.
Joe Brady is a star in the making.
Age doesn’t matter. Sean McVay proved that.
Bad call by Colts to go for 4th down with Rivers…shoulda taken points.
A decision that could well come back to bite them in the ass.
I’m not going to kill the Colts for going for it. They know they need to put up 7s not 3s to win the game. Their defense should be able to hold, but right now looks like they are on skates.
Rob; in terms of OT and interior Lineman, do you think this is the draft we could get someone to groom in the 2nd? Looking at Duane, I hope we could get another couple years out of him. Ideal would be for us to pick him someone whom could start at LG and groom into LT.
Being a perennial high 1st (or no 1st in 2021 nor 2022), with blowing our brains out in FA or a trade, this is our best bet.
Anybody that you’d recommend scouting?
It’s very, very, very difficult to find a left tackle prospect in the late second round.
Yeah…agree; just interested in if u saw a raw talent. Potential, but a low bar of becoming an interior OL for us. As I mentioned, no foreseeable early 1st nor wanting to blow big $ is the issue. We could trade, but rather try a project first.
It’ll be difficult to offer thoughts on a projection until we have testing numbers.
Hawks should win by 10 + today but 3 things scare the crap out of me.
-Russ turning the ball over
-The Rams deciding just to run the ball down the Hawks throat with Akers
-Arron Donald and Jalen Ramsey are the two best players on the field
“Stephon Diggs isn’t worth a first round pick”
Also…
“Minnesota will never trade him for a first round pick”
responding to an above thread…
i don’t think this season has been a failure (certainly considering the current circumstances). maybe the offseason… but a little early to make that call, no? kickoff is at 1:40pm.
but it puts a hole in my chest when i read the morning of our playoff game that if we lose, this season is a failure. we haven’t even played yet. we don’t know the outcome of the game, or how we got to that outcome. bizarre way to start the morning: “if they lose, their season is a failure!” did they get outplayed by a better team? did their “all-pro” kicker miss the game-winner in the final seconds? was there an injury to “xxx” on the first play? are you protecting your future emotional state from potential disappointment? are you teeing up a follow up; “i told you so”?
i really enjoyed the above article/interview. really love how we discuss the construct of this team and then watch and discuss how the season unfolds. but making these “grandiose” statements is bizarre to me… letting the world know of your dissatisfaction with a team’s entire season (or offseason?) before they play their game… ? i won’t get into any analogies here, but i find this as unusual behavior.
so… is the season a failure? or is the offseason a failure? things happen during the season that are out of their control (injuries, bad calls, good calls, missed field goals, scheduling, etc.). but the offseason is different, did they make the right moves to get better (and win their division)? did they build/create a foundation/culture that increases production/play? to be determined, no?
from the outside, it’s just seems bizarre that we’re predetermining the outcome of their season (offseason?) before its actual outcome.
again, this rhetoric kind of takes the wind out of my sails. excuse me any hurtful comments, but let’s root these hawks and hope for a win.
stay safe. go hawks. draft milton. cheers!
“Rhetoric” has negative connotations. It’s an opinion shared by several people here, myself included. Your opinion is different and that’s legit. But so are ours.
quick note: if we lose, i’ll probably be the first to jump on here ask for russell’s resignation.
Nobody has said the season is a failure.
If they get knocked out in the first two weeks of the playoffs yet again, it will be.
Not sure why it’s such a hot topic for some.
I hope im not the only one who think this- but I am very worried about the game today. The Rams have had our number for a long time. I really dislike this matchup for the Hawks. Hopefully we win this game or they’ll be big problems moving forward
I’m not worried.
I’m very relaxed.
The Rams are literally trying to make a choice between a seriously inexperienced backup and a QB with an injured thumb.
I’ll take your word for it Rob!
Indy is not going down without a fight!!
Indy-Buffalo might be the best game this weekend. What a battle it’s been.
The Indy v Bills game has been pretty darned good so far.
WOW
Allen almost f’ed the pooch
Colts.. no quit. Love it. 😀
I officially have no idea about football, I was so sure Bills got it already 🙂
Anyone have inactives for today yet?
Penny, Dallas, Parkinson, Luke Willson, Wheeler, Stephens. Bullard on Covid list
The Seahawks’ inactives against the Rams: RB Rashaad Penny, RB DeeJay Dallas, TE Luke Willson, TE Colby Parkinson, CB Linden Stephens, OT Chad Wheeler. Seattle’s tailbacks will be Chris Carson, Carlos Hyde and practice-squad call-up Alex Collins
No surprises, thanks guys
Rams QBs ACTIVE vs. Seahawks: Jared Goff and John Wolford. Rams inactives: QB Blake Bortles, WR Trishton Jackson, TE Brycen Hopkins, OL Brian Allen, OL Tremayne Anchrum
you’re right, mike.
I like Josh Allen but the Bills aren’t even trying to run the ball. Not even to run the clock out.
It was only a couple years ago that they had a strong running game.
Allen has been the majority of the rushing offense as well….. putting a lot on his plate today
Gee, I wonder if Indy would like to have that FG they passed on now?
They doinked one
Wolford starting!
Im more worried by him than goff.
Hawks keep getting breaks.. easy schedule, backup QBs. Can Pete make these count at the end of the day?
Tylor, tough running
Why wouldnt the refs review the fumble? They are so inconsistent
Horrible, horrible way to lose for the Colts
The Colts haven’t lost yet. Unless I’m getting a big delay in Alaska.
The REFS made sure they prolonged their demise
Great play by poyer.
That’s how you use a time out! Good job Bills!
I can’t believe they didn’t overturn that call.
I really am surprised they didnt overturn it. Wow.
I would be sick if I was a buffalo fan
NFL is very lucky that didnt cost them. Not that they ever face any consequences anyway for glaring officiating issues
Is Buffalo loses this game it’s completely totally and 100% on the officials.
The inconsistency of the referees is unfuckingreal
It was more important for the officials to save face than make the right call. Who cares if it could’ve cost a team a playoff win.
Helluva game!
4th down call skipping points came back to bite their ass….
Rivers choked on that last series. Three throws to left sideline and a failed Hail Mary. He telegraphed those throws .
Buffalo Bills fans go wild! Well done.
Can someone explain how that wasn’t a fumble? I mean….I’m at a loss. And then they reviewed it and STILL didn’t get it right.
Conspiracy theories forming for sure.
But because indy lost, no harm done. Everyone will ignore it.
It was more important for the officials to save face than make the right call
Rivers ran that 2 minute offense like it was a preseason game. What the hell were they doing?
Buffalo has not won a playoff game in 25 years and they almost got it stolen from them like we got Super Bowl 40 stolen from us
Are we ready for some football?!
Rob, can we have a new thread for game comments?
Im soooooo nervous!!!!!
feeling good about this one. Seahawks 30-16 Look for us to shut down the outside runs and make plays in the secondary. Go Hawks!
I think it’ll be 34-20
Gotta better against the run. Can’t let Akers get into gear
Dunlap was all up in Wolford’s grill. Nice defense getting off the field.
Here comes the true test. Which Russ shows up today.
Good start. Adams seems to be keeping an eye on Kupp.
Hate EVERY play call so far on offense. Sigh
The offense just looks so outstandingly poor.
Oh Shotty what the hell man
Man eff this just run every play
They seem to be doing every Peteball aspect… apart from running a lot.
There’s nothing more hopeless than throwing a bunch to no effect IMO. At least if they run a bunch for 2.8 YPC I can imagine they’d have done better throwing more. This just removes all rationalization haha.
I agree.
Throwing low percentage, nothing passes for little or no gain… while Wilson panics in the pocket… there’s no benefit there.
Game over. We established Moore!
Good thing indeed for that gain of one
Expecting a low scoring, nail biter. Pleass russ! Wake up from your 2 month slumber!
At least let Russ toast bread.
I’m not sure Russ can even unwrap the bread at the moment
If its Pepperidge farm, that stuff is wrapped twice. Could make it tricky, I agree.
Do we script the 1st drive?
Yes — unfortunately it’s the script for Indiana Jones 4.
I laughed.
Lol
Do we have to find a crystal skull and place it in Seattle locker room to win? I’m down for it!
Yes — but in order to get there we also have to catch a speeding vehicle swinging on jungle vines. Apparently this is very easy to do though, especially if you’re a 1950’s greaser.
Do Reed hurt!
Dj reed hurt. Awesome
Oh come on tackle FFS
Shut up and talk about reed!!!!
Yeah nice job by FOX. Fortunately he looked ok
The same shitty performance continues.. kudos Pete
It feels like we’ve had 15 minutes of commercials so far
D-line getting handled
Why did Shaq just point at him instead of cover him?
He was hoping to use the force of a really aggressive point
About 4 yards of generosity…
Sean McVay is scripting an effective offense for his backup, featuring a heavy dose of run.
We can’t script an effective offense for Russell Wilson.
If they can’t win this game – I think there’s going to be a dysfunctional offseason – no idea why RW wouldn’t force the issue here.
Our lb’s are not playing the run aggressively
Seahawks just getting trucked. Every player getting beat by their Rams opponent
Run D… yikes
This game is the true measure of how good our pass defense is.
Run D is bad. Offense is as usual bad..
Dunlap watching Akers run by him…
Saving energy for game saving sacks on the final drive..
That was NEVER a flag.
Whoever threw that flag doesn’t know the rules of the game.
And MORE commercials. Jesus wept.
They took it back luckily.
I don’t agree. He is clearly going to the ground. All he has to do is touch him.
RB Akers is having a lot better game this week than he did against the Cardinals. Consistent good yardage. The Seahawks defense have to step up.
They better pick up this flag
Good
10 mins of football
15mins of commercials.
Oh jeeze. How often are the Seahawks going to be gifted injured/bad/second string QBs… how often do we not take advantage.
Is Wolford leaving good or bad for Hawks.
The concerning thing is that after watching the Bills and Colts play – both of those teams are *clearly* better than these two teams. I mean, clearly.
Goff looked like a sitting duck there.
Looks like a QB who isn’t confident letting it rip.
Following the sack a fellow team mate tried to yank him up by his right hand…well done.
Looks like another qb i watch every week.
There’s zero fire on defense. Absolutely none.
Finally something
Peirara not knowing the rule on wolfard hit is concerning.
Pereira is basically the guy who really wants to be a politician. Exactly the type of person you don’t want to be a politician. He wants to have his influence on the game.
You should’ve seen the reaction in the UK broadcast studio to Peirera saying that…
Odds on another three and out?
11 mins into the 1st quarter and we’ve run 3 plays on offense.
🙁
Its bad when qb in his 2nd start looks better than our probowl qb.
He looks better than their starting QB as well to be fair.
Goof won’t get much done, if the Offense can do anything, we got this. Wake up
Anything except Russ practicing “hamster style”
Not that I want anybody hurt but I’d rather Goff be in there…
I wouldn’t mind if they decided to chop at the right hand all game….lets get the 3rd stringer in there.
This drive is over
What a joke. This offense is ridiculous
Utter shite
This GD team…
I’m so glad Pete isn’t worried about his offense
I am worried if some heads don’t fly after this performance.
It feels like zombies came out of graves to play.
JFC
What a fucking joke
2nd and 34….right where we want them :/
Hey it was 2nd and 34 with 2:34 left in the first quarter.
That’s all I got.
Let me guess, the strategy was to come out like you’re being shot out of a cannon? Clearly.
Same shit, different week. Offense is a joke.
The Rams are such a terrible match up for us. This is gonna be a game.
I don’t think it’s that today.
Whatever the Seahawks are trying to do — it aint working. Emphatically.
You’ve got to be better than this.
This is embarrassing! Russ won’t pull the trigger.
o line a joke on that drive. jesus.
This is on Schotty. The play calling is atrocious.
Russell sucks – I mean, would we even get a single 1st rounder for him? I’m not even kidding – he’s broken.
How was any of that Wilson? O line utterly OWNED
Yeah. Rams are dominating up front on both sides of the Ball
5 on 3….and they still get a sack
Come on, you don’t leave a rookie alone with Aaron Donald…
Pete Carroll is Alfred E. Neuman when it comes to this offense:
“What me worry?”
How do you know that? Russ only holds the ball.
This is systemic. Offense has done this routinely for years. No fix in sight. But hey, we will scramble a comeback with 7mins left!
Why does Russell Wilson always start games so slow??
Its just as much about having a terrible plan.
A quick suggestion…
Maybe try running the ball…
Rather than letting Aaron Donald win the game for LA.
Run right at them, it’s 3-0 . Plus how about snapping at 2 seconds instead of blowing a timeout every single game
I am all for Russ playing dual threat game ala Lamar from get go to wake him up
Ok ok. Maybe Reed’s sack lit the fire.
i want someone to blow up those wr’s they have leading their run plays
Take the top off on this drive schotty.
Haha, I find myself rooting for the Rams defense because of the incompetence of Shottenheimer and Pete.
Go up tempo or throw on first down and give Wilson a chance to get going early. Donald is going to keep killing us otherwise.
What a catch!
Thanks Rob got excited and typoed my email 😂
Wow, more commercials
Just so many
A bunch of the early ones were because of injuries to Reed and Wolford
Pre-season games have more energy.. Hawks took the game for granted.
Lets go offense. Play with some fire!
Maybe if we can score on this drive our offense can get some momentum.
Thats a big maybe though
Six yard gain on first down running.
Tricky throw leads to a sack on second down.
WHY????
Isn’t Seattle a “running team”? Isn’t Carson healthy?
Let Carson cook
Throw the damn ball !
Wilson has to throw that away
Right? He has plenty of time to get rid of it.
I despise this game plan.
Seahawks on offense:
7 attempted passes
3 sacks
3 attempted runs
22 yards
Exactly. Throw on first down; roll Wilson out of the pocket; set up the run and run the fucking ball when they’re off balance based on the first two.
Aaron Donald understands this offense better than our current head coach and offensive coaching staff.
Shit the bed schotty
It’s Pete and Russ too.
Why are they not accepting what they are on offense currently? They are not playing well throwing the ball.
Run the damn ball.
Seahawks offense is the Tom Segura drunk fail of the NFL…
I’m not even upset DK dropped that. It wasn’t enough for a 1st down anyway. What a waste of a drive.
It’s taking everything in my power not to lose my shit right now….This is incredibly frustrating.
Russ takes a sack ignoring all the green grass in front of him for 1st down.
I am sick of this game.. worst teams of the weekend.
This offense should not be run through russ.
Gosh, this football team is frustrating to watch
They pretty much stink. How did they manage to go 12-4?
People were saying they are saving Carson, that he’s the “Perfect Playoff RB.” Why the f*** aren’t they using him like one then?
At this point its gameplan. Its like they always choose the hard path in choose your own adventure books.
Can someone please explain Schotty’s game plan? Anyone?
A magic 8 ball.
Run: Ask again later
Throw: Outlook not so good.
Punt: It is certain.
Can’t argue with that
Saving the game plan for SB
This team will never get to a Super Bowl with this coaching staff. Do they actually look at the opposing defense when coming up with an offensive game plan?
DK is beginning to understand why Doug was pissed all those years. Lockett went straight to “Acceptance.”
Adam’s bringing the wood!
Defence is killing it
The defense is facing a Financial Advisor and a guy with no thumb on his throwing hand – they should be dominating.
The saving grace is Goff is in no fit state to play.
But this Seahawks offense is NOT winning any Super Bowls unless someone lights a fire immediately.
Exactly. Can this offense get a playoff victory in Green Bay and New Orleans?
he looks scared back there
Adams tattooed that WR. He’s hunting heads today
Run the ball and wear out the rams defense
DK better be angry with himself. Because if he’s upset at someone else when you drop the ball……sorry.
I would be angry at the QB, because he’s playing like shit
still not enough for 1st down and putting the WR in danger.
Then go to the bench and suck on your pacifier. He’s a receiver. His job is to catch the ball. He didn’t do his job.
Good job defense. Let’s go Offense!!!!
I wish the rest of the offense had dk’s fire right now.
Run defense stepping up. We desperately need offensive linemen, Iupati very poor so far.
He wasn’t even in the game last drive
Adams and dunlap going off!
NO excuse not to lean on Carson
Russ just not as fast as he was – no way around that
Can’t go 4th for inches… they don’t have confidence in themselves.
Looked to me like Russ gets the first down on the run if he doesn’t hesitate
A FG is the right choice here.
Good call to kick there
Russell Wilson needs to be better.
Offense is pathetic. It seems that coaching staff is aloof.
Myers has to be the team mvp this season. It sure isn’t Wilson.
Its like they have 1 decent run and immediately call play action. Ride carson! I want 3rd and 2 not 3rd and 6.
Schotty went no huddle for all of 1 play
How did Adam’s not int that?
I’ve never ever seen Kam or Sherm smiling after a missed play like Adams did.
Jamal Adams is not good in coverage.
Second blown coverage play for a big gain by Adams today
Adams in coverage is damn near a liability every time, even with help on top.
That should be a pic all day
Adams?
Doug Baldwin throwing shade…
https://twitter.com/DougBaldwinJr/status/1348036561296707587
Russell Wilson has done amazing things for this team. But when he is bad, he is BAD.
Run defense starting to stiffen up.
Goff with 4 fingers is throwing deep better than Russ. Russ does seem to have a coterie around him to not review his work for last 2 months.
As bad as our offense has been we are looking good.
I’m so tired and frustrated by our slow starting, incompetent 1st half offense.
If you can’t design a scheme for the playoffs, you got no business working as an OC.
Is Aaron Donald also The wknd?
Its purely gameplan on us.
Not pounding rock vs donald should have been the only plan today.
Wow
Way to go Cpt. Obvious…
On Cue – Russell Wilson is THE PROBLEM
That just wasnt on Russ tho, great play by the corner and swain whiffed his block
WTAF
Amateurs
That could be the ball game
Goff with a broken thumb is better than wilson
Rams d better than our o.
Schotty’s offensive game plan is, well, offensive.
They saw that play all the way
That is a direct result of DK crying
I assume still Russ could have saw that. Russ is playing like crap now. We need a new OC too fix him.
And what about that? A result of him crying as well?
Pete Carroll deserves as much blame as anything for me.
He’s denied anything’s wrong on offense for weeks, while they beat the Jets, WFT, Niners etc.
It was broken. Screwed.
This was always possible.
We have a QB playing SCARED.
no excuse for the poor opening script. Now DK is frustrated and yet to establish run. Now a Pick 6 on a screen play that should have been the first play, but now you force it , inexcusable
I might just shut this off and go outside now. It doesn’t matter.
Dickheads…..
Embarrassing.
Russ and coaching staff are the problem. Time to fire coaching staff and see what Russ does.
Alright. Alright. Let’s build on this.
Predictable ….another 1st round exit looming to a team with no QB.
In fairness to the Seahawks, we hardly ever play the Rams making them almost a complete mystery to us.
Simply pathetic.
Let’s be honest – this pathetic offense wouldn’t keep up with New Orleans or Green Bay anyway.
I worry this game will be over now if we don’t score here. I know lots can change but it’s not looking good. Out coached, over compensating for a player throwing a fit. Pissed off Aaron Donald destroying our Oline.
OK there ya go!!
There we go!!!!
lets goooooooook
Uhhh
i know . . typo . . .my bad 🙁
Yeah come on guys!
Playground offense is the only thing that works.
That throw was amazing.
Theres our Russ!!!
I’ll take it
Great pick up by Hyde
there’s our quarterback!
Like the result! But show me more than 1 big play.
Anytime Ramsey isn’t covering DK on a passing play, they need to adjust to it.
Maybe that will wake russ up.
Man things got dark here for a bit!
Hell of a 5th round pick there
Good job Alton
Defense is giving up WAY too many explosive plays
Most of them on Adams unfortunately
they all seem kind of flukey, but yeah
We have something in Robinson
There’s no excuse for this
What is Pete doing challenging that?????
Jesus christ
WHAT ARE YOU DOING???
Yeah, that wasn’t even close
According to FG, it motivates the team because it shows he believes in them. No, I am not kidding.
Wouldn’t be a Ram game if there wasn’t a ridiculous challenge.
Bad challenge
so whos the new tater?
McVay owns Pete. Does not matter who plays.
This game is so frustrating. This team is so jekyll and hyde
It’s strange that Pete is such an opportunist with his challenges. His preferred game style for sure is not opportunistic.
What kind of tackle was that from Wagner????
The defense is a mess now.
The defence is playing great for the most part, but then keeps giving up the big play
God keeps parting the Hawks line for Akers.
What’s wrong with Bobby? Blew that one.
and now the defense forgets how to tackle.
Just Ugh…
Maybe losing this game is for the best. This team is a joke.
I sincerely hate that line of thinking…but I’m slowly coming to that position, myself.
If we give up a td its gonna be hard to win this
Watching this team egregiously shit the bed on offense and defense… pathetic.
Feels like the Giants game with Colt McCoy, except they also have Donald, Floyd, and Ramsey to wreck the offense in the 2nd half. I expect at least 4 more sacks
Cannot rely on this offense to play a shootout game
I don’t care how good Adams is at blitzing, he is worse than McDougald at what a safety should do.
McVay has never lost a game where the Rams led at halftime.
Carroll never lost a home playoff game.
Unless they get a stop and score a TD here, something’s gotta give.
Adams did touch Akers, so it’s not a walk-in TD
So why did we cut Snacks Harrison again? Such a dumbass move on so many levels
For cheer leader Luke.
1. He goes to a rival
2. We cant stop the run
3. We sat him for a player who didn’t even do anything
4. We replaced him with cheer leader Luke
embarrassing
This is just embarrassing from the Seahawks.
A fitting end to a wretched year, starting with a hopeless free agency.
Going to be a long off-season upcoming. Zero excitement for it.
There is no accountability for leadership, both coaches and players. It’s hard to keep up hope.
There offense is literally run or pass to Cam Akers every other play. Can’t even stop it.
Let’s face it. Zero excitement because we have little confidence in this coaching staff/FO. At least for me.
COMPLETELY agree
Hang in there Rob! We don’t have to be super bowl quality now, just enough to beat the rams…
No good look to another quick out. We are firmly in too good to rebuild, not good enough to really contend territory.
We have worked our way into the worst scenario. We need russ to take over. Vs his worst foe. Perfect.
Now we’re chasing the game. I like our chances better than it would be if we’re close. Pete plays for the field goal and the no TO’s.
Not today! LA’s defense has no respect for our O or Wilson and it shows. Let’s see if we adjust we got to score at half, or it’s ball game. Rams are unbeatable when you chase them and they can pin their ears back. Gonna say it again, Arnold understands our offense better than our head coach and coaching staff.
Akers running and Russ turning the ball over we’re my biggest worries and both are killing us.
How the Fk do you not pick that up? Why the hell was Carson not in for that?!
hyde sucks. yet another offseason whiff
It seems that we seen this over and over and over again. Yet they never fail to surprise with incompetence.
why would they possibly have Hyde run that on 3rd down such a huge difference between Hyde and Carson.
Total failure by the coaching staff
I love the “Well, we’ll just play hard in the second half strategy.” It’s gotta be so much fun for Pete.
This just feels like a loss. Mcvay undefeated with a lead at half time, fuck this season man
Has Jarran Reed put on a few lbs around the middle?
good observation, resembles Snacks now a bit
Whats with all this shoulder high tackling on ackers.. why cant anyone hit his legs
Failing to get off the field on third down there is inexcusable.
Akers is killing ’em. Goff is the walking wounded and the RB is ripping them a new one.
Sure is better than Penny.
Did we even practice or game plan for this game? It sure doesn’t look like it.
Oh no, Bobby is down…
These refs are as bad as the Seahawks
They call that a fumble so replay can turn it back around that’s actually good officiating that way they don’t screw anybody
There goes Bobby
Yep. Would be surprised if he’s back today.
Our only hope is Russ cooks a 5star meal right here. Needs to put the team on his back like what he was doing before
Ha! Wags already back out. Never happier to be surprised!
Whew. Thank god. We need him back.
Not a surprise to see this coming .. it’s the same shit on both sides all season.
It’s the same thing every week and every season. I’m tired of this product. We need change.
Russ eats up way to much cap to play like this for so many weeks.
100%
same with wagner,
I wasnt expecting a full sb win type of season. And any loss sucks. But what a lame exit this would be. Rams bounce next week.
akers has 19 carries for 97 yds. terrible.
And just in the first half!!
Plus a 44yd catch and run
This game is so painful to watch on so many levels.
Now that we’re in the Playoffs we combine our first game defence with our last game offence. Should be the other way around. Pathetic game
Pete’s takeaway from this game:
“We lost this game because we lots the turnover battle.” –> Run even more next year with even more anemic offense
Still think we win this game but what a shame. Pete needs to go.
I absolutely share the frustration so far. Second half will prove different.
No intensity no excitement, on top no fan noise. It’s THE worst game to expect in play offs.
Can some one give couple Red Bulls to Russ during half timez
I think they can safely pull out Goff and just run the ball the whole second half.
Well. Its on you russ. This is your chance to show your a top 5 qb.
Hes not a top 5 qb no matter what he does this half.
If we’re gonna win this game we gotta come out in the 2nd half with our hair on fire.
Defense – against a thumbless quarterback, who is mediocre WITH said thumb – has one job: make them throw. Load up and stop the damn run.
Offense – following is a complete list of successful plays schemed up by Schotty:
End of list.
The Ram coaching staff is so far superior that it’s no contest.
I’m not too excited for the second half, but go hawks.
Totally agree . This predictable dinosaur 🦖 offense and OC needs to go . Totally out coached by the rams.
It’s possible that if they don’t come out and score a TD on the opening drive they’re sunk.
Down by 10 at the half to the Rams is rarely a good place to be.
Win or lose this game, we just can’t look like we have no idea what we’re doing in the first half again. There has to be accountability for this.
0 for 5 on third down. Gastly.
their D-line absolutely dominates us
This ballgame’s over based on history of the Hawks and of course, the Rams in particular. 10 down at the half, Rams don’t lose when they’re up like this against anyone.
Aaron Donald wanted us and understands our shitty, predictable offense with a quarterback who can’t throw from the normal pocket and a coordinator who is completely predictable.
If we win the 2nd half, it’s because they let Russ cook and effin’g let him run on RPO. Otherwise, we out. Let’s see if our offense adjusts. This was so damned predictable, it’s the playoffs, time to wise up.
Carson has 45 yards on 7 carries (6.4y/c). Why not use him more? Nothing from the tight ends. Lots of poor tacking. Out coached and out fought.
I think the issue with our TE’s is that they all suck. Slow and nothing dynamic in any aspect.
I really cant understand why is Adams playing when he is obviously hurt… He cant tackle at all…
the enduring mystery of this season, whenever it ends, is what in the world happened to our QB and our offense in the 2nd half of the year. You would think that w Russell Wilson, Carson, DK and Tyler – that we would be at least above-average, even against a good defense. I remember the Rams games last year, and how much we moved the ball.
I just don’t think it’s all the playcalling. Our O-line has regressed. Our QB, our star f-ing QB, is not playing like a star at all. It’s so frustrating.
No pointing at health or injuries this year. This is all on the team, coaching, players. Change is needed.
Its like everything we do bad each week, we do the following week. Like we ignore what hasnt worked or our mistakes. Then we consistently let each game be comtrolled by the opposing team. This is who we are until a big change happens.
Same as every other playoff game in the last 5 years. Again we need Russell Wilson to dig us out of a hole we have created.
that pick-6 basically is the hole. so he dug it too.
My guess is Wilson tries to make some plays which causes turn overs and we all know if he has multiple turnovers we have lost every time, also Mcvey has never lost a game when leading after the first half, game is over and the future is not looking good
Going to see a lot of Cam Akers show in 2nd half
Have to say this out loud to be clear: we’ve given up 20 points in the first half to a first time (okay, 2nd game starter) and a QB with a surgically repaired thumb. Haha, 20 points man!
Aaron Donald understands Russ and Pete. Let’s see if we can adjust. Man, just awful to watch the WORST 12 WIN TEAM in the history of the NFL. This was predictable. Let’s see if we go Medeviel on their ass! (sorry for the mispelling)
I’ll take a good play when I can get one. Nice return. Let’s build on it.
We have to be positive for russell.. ciara is probably giving him updates from the blog
..
But look at that dj rees return… woooooooo
As frustrating, as disappointing as we feared.
We have Russ, it is on him now. Whatever happens, this team needs to find something now. If we luck through this game, we will get beaten in the next round anyway.
If we don’t square the circle and get all three units playing well in the 2nd half, then we have nothing. The season is on the line, if we don’t come out much better in the 2nd, we never were going to achieve anything anyway. We would have had no fight in us.
I think Russ should be frustrated with Seattle, but he should be more frustrated with himself. We need a transcendent QB and leader, we are paying him a King’s ransom. Russ has 30 minutes, let him loose, let’s live and die with him. All we can do is watch!
On the positive side- I do think we can make it next week if we can make it this week. We are always really bad against the Rams. Even the last game we won was not pretty. Jared Goff could have easily won them that game if he didn’t throw the INT. Plus Cam Akers and Henderson were out…
But agreed though regarding Russ. Schotty is not the guy. Maybe we get snatch like Mahomes or Allen QB coach and put them to OC. We should have signed AB *i’ll stop bringing this up but this point still pisses me off*. Our TEs are garbage and we need a RAC short catch guy. If we don’t make big trades this offseason Russ will be gone from this team. We need a vertical threat TE and a real WR 3
He is still transcendent qb.. hes just not as good in scrambling as he used to be.. its weird.. he used to get caught doing these turn and flip scrambles but other times he was lights out with them.. now he doesnt get away aswell and has been limited when he cant throw on time because of the pass rush or blitzes… rams dont even have to blitz and have been getting constant pressure..
He’s getting older/slower/less athletic. His scrambling will get worse and worse tbh as time goes on. He needs to get better moving the pocket around..
Every pass play feels doomed at this point. RUN THE DAMN BALL
Cant win anything not completing a 3rd n 3.. and being 0 for 6..
At least Myers is good…sick of these three and outs. Need 7 not 3!
Why won’t they run the damn ball!!
Sometimes the obvious play call is the right play all, Schottenheimer.
0-6 on Third down. Hard to win with that.
That’s per plan if u ask Pete…lol
It’s like someone pitching a fork on purpose to make 0/6 to happen.
Russell Wilson is the problem. Panics even with a clean pocket
I think the problem is when they close around him he can’t see anything
I have been the biggest Russell Wilson fan, but it’s clear to me he is limiting this offense
And good lord these drives are over so quickly we are getting absolutely pelted with commercials
Our best kickoff return of the year. Three and a FG. Good Lord.
I predicted a 34-20 Seahawks win, so from here out Rams get shut out and Seahawks score 3 TDs.
Make it so.
You will win the gamethread if so.
Goff will drop another gift sometime in this game, we still got chance.
“The Rams have 79 passing yards right now, with 7:51 left in the second quarter. 78 of those have come on plays when Jamal Adams has been the nearest defender to the target, per Next Gen Stats.”
-Seth Walder, ESPN
Can we just move Adams to LB?
Theres another pass breakup by adams tho.. and the 1 to cooper kupp deep was a great catch.. wish he located it better. He got his head around but missplayed it…
“Myers with the tackle”
Wrapping up better than our D right now
Finally Adams breaking a pass
Thats his 3rd of the game.. what do u mean “finally”
Finally a pbu for Adams
lol. Please Keep Running the ball Rams!!!
lmao. Keep passing the ball!!! Don’t start running
Still awaiting offense.
Reed has been a beast the 2nd half of the year.
Advertising companies absolutely LOVING these 3 and outs
Again D did their share, now it’s on Russ. Very strong Reed.
So how much should we pay to keep JReed?
I thought we have him locked for next year
I was thinking in the context of an extension. He’s worth keeping, as long as the price makes sense. What makes sense price wise?
Hes under contract next year
Hes making enough money right now… Not pro bowl caliber still.
ok russ…the oven’s preheated by now
Only thing russ cookin right now is a digiornos stuffed pizza..
the rolls royce of frozen pizza
Was gonna say may not be fancy but gets the job done
Rw almost never overthrew receivers.. feel like the last 4 or 5 weeks hes done it consistently on open guys… i know pete came down on russ to stop turning thr ball over but this is ridiculous.. have to give DK a chance…
i believe they asked him about it after the niner game and he dismissed it like, “i wouldn’t worry about our long ball”
‘Harness good, block bad’
Why don’t they have a play for 3rd and 4????
They are 0-7 on third down.
FFS.
IDK who said it, but I saw a tweet saying Pete Carroll’s offense is based around 3 yard runs or 25 yard passes. Why they can’t have any sort of 6-10 passing plays is beyond me. Atrocious coaching.
Always looking for homerun play.
that is really incomprehensible
They do. The play is designed to get us to 4th down.
No bread and butter schemed plays. Only the scramble drill
Embarrassing at best, and just unconscionable at worst. Too many games this year loses any offensive rhythm by the inability to get it done on 3rd.
Donald hurt?
That would be the only positive contribution of RW this drive.
Looks like an oblique injury
Can’t even contain Donald for a milli second
Iupati’s got to do better
If he could have held up for half a second longer that’s probably a TD
Should have been a TD anyway. Russ had to move but he got the throw away clean… and overthrew a wide open DK by five yards.
If iupati could have even got in his way its a td.
Professional OL and can’t block for more than a second
Is there any chance before he retires we actually block Aaron Donald?
Russ has a mental block for Donald. Pete has for McVay. No hope in near future
9ers great vs rams. They use a heavy run scheme and virtually remove him from altering a game.
I am praying for Goff to give us a gift of pick to have any hope
This offense can be shot out of cannon. What a joke.
Wow they ran on 3rd and 13. Tells you everything you need to know about Goff’s status
Gotta say the plan of luring Donald into an injury while sacking Wilson is an improvement over the first half, nice adjustment?
😀
Schotty brilliance.
McVay showing what he thinks of Seattle offense and his qb
6 completions and 0-7 on 3rd down. But Pete Carroll isn’t worried, right?
Why do all Seahawks games have to be like this?
Pete Carroll
Its time for the schotty air raid offense🤣🤣
maybe we have a hard time on o because of all the tv time outs. I cant remember a game with so many commercials
Our offense is the reason for all these tv timeouts
We can score 30+ points to end and win the game and it`s still gonna be embarrassing
5 tight ends on the roster and none can catch
If schotty isn’t fired after this game im not watching next year.
The route concepts are high school level
I said the same thing about bevell’s offense years ago..
Well, odds are not to your favor, I suppose 🙂
Is it not obvious at this point? Its not schotty.. same people saying fire bevell.. its pete.. alwaya has been..
Hard to scheme for the #1 defense in the league when you’re $35 million QB is struggling.
Yeah, but you are paying 500 k for a freak of nature WR.
Its not fair for 10-6 Dolphins to sit at home while Hawks get to play.
Not 1 God damn run on that drive!!
Ramsey didn’t win the battle so much as the pass wasn’t placed properly
10 possessions, 7 first downs.
If im mcvay, i run out clock.
Three passes in a row and nothing.
When do they call some designed run plays for Russ
58.5 QB rating. I wonder what the pff grades for the OL will be.
Any chance the Rams have the league’s no. 1 defence in part because they play us twice a season?
Dissly picked a helluva game to have his worst game of his career
They’re gonna let Goff run for first downs. For shame.
It is amazing how much talent is on the offense and how bad it is. Truly remarkable!
Remember – Pete is not worried about the offense.
If we had established the run early the rams defense would be wearing down by now.
right? this bipolar offense is killing me
So much creativity and motion for one third down with out Donald in game.
What the absolute hell was that from Wilson?
Just three minutes from our offense showing up…
Offensive line is garbage tonight.
Russell Wilson is the problem
Man oh man these ugly ugly plays
Okay, let’s please run Carson downhill still
Was that a no look Pass? Ugly
The ball has to come out on time.
No Aaron Donald yet..
Looks like Wentz out there
For real. Both love to play that Hero ball and force bad throws and interceptions
My god. How pathetic!
In Wilson’s defense he has no time
Duane brown is the worst player of OL.. zero effort.
Embarrassing. Just Embarrassing. And I don’t put it all on Wilson or the OL. The coaching staff owns this too.
This offense is utterly and completely painful to watch. They’ve made one play on a broken play. Utterly broken.
McVay going Pete Carroll there.
SEA makes that Rams defence look like SEA defense of 2013 against Matt Schaub in the second half.
As bad as our oline is playing im not sure whats going to work in the passing game.
Miracles
Chris Carson is averaging 5.6 yards per carry. On 13 carries.
Even though it won’t get overturned I’d challenge it too. The potential payoff is too valuable not to try.
Complete and utter collapse by the offense. This is over and they know it.
That’s two drives without Aaron Donald.
Can coaching staff just retire after this game.
Yup, they lose their best player and continue to dominate our offense. Just nowhere near good enough.
How is that not holding on Poona?
Very frustrating, saw it as well.
schotty can’t just take 5 mins to scrounge up a few plays from a chiefs game?
Time to trade our celebrity QB. He’s cooked.
Has schotty rolled him out? Thrown more than one screen? Is he responsible for pass pro?
Yeah he’s sacked but he has lots of company
But hey Pete, why don’t you make fun of reporters again when they ask about your offense. Nothing to see here right Pete?
At this point in time, Rams can sub in practice squad players yet our offense will suck as usual.
Defense can only hold them off for so long
Cant believe the difference in this game is the worst way to throw a pick 6
If RW can’t throw, then run.
Hot garbage.
Im done here.
I’ll catch Rob’s write-up after.
Will this force wholesale changes???
Probably not. They will say coachspeak on fixing it next year and rams played well. Puke.
I am done with Pete.. all he talks is BS and he is out of juice a few years ago
Hope so
Pete: “Without the pick six it was a heck of a close game, could have gone either way. We have to protect the football.”
You are aware Pete Carroll just signed a 5 yr extension right? Any changes will just be more of his bobos
How come the seahawks can only have 8 games of offense a season? Guess we burned all out plays already this year:
Rams controlling the LOS on both sides. Complete domination.
Td here ends it for sure. Fg ends it probably too. But no way hawks score 2 tds.
FG here ends it.
Pete carroll has peaked.. u dont get better at coaching past 70.. i wish they didnt resign him to a 5 year extension
Yep it’s over
Yeah, this offense is going to go all pass and rams are going to tee off. I see another rw pick and nothing close to a td.
Hope so
Hawks need a miracle
After the Rams win this game and go onto play the Packers next week, watch how Aaron Rodgers will absolutely shred this supposedly dominant Rams defense. Elite QBs do that.
How can you throw less than a guy with a broken thumb?
Majority of the fan base will say what an amazing season.
Fans will be pissed. This is lifeless and a joke. Thos is an embarassment.
Is the best thing that could come out of this game the resignation of some of the major decision-makers? Probably not, but it’s up there!
With Goff’s bad thumb, I’m predicting an interception in the 4th Q!! It hadn’t been coming out of his hand well all game! Play the run on 1st and 2nd to force 3rd and long and then intercept the high ball from Goff over the middle!
Go Hawks!!
Oh great Brooks is holding his right ankle
Can’t believe how much nickel we’ve played this game. Love seeing Ugo Amadi getting handled by Robert Woods at the line every run play. This staff doesn’t trust Jordyn Brooks because it’s suddenly a playoff game? That’s what you get with 70+ yr old coaches and his toadies.
This team gets out coached every week. This team needs changes. I just can’t see Pete doing anything.
If we’re gonna be a passing offense we need a coordinator who has a pro level passing system not a high school system.
Mayors, Irvin, and Olsen are having a really nice game.
Also, those 1st and 3rd round picks probably will be really high.
Run Carson and keep him in on these drives. May be his last runs as a Seahawk…
This team needs a td on this drive or we are done.
Please god, let the media grow some balls. Hold this team accountable.
Good luck with that. Seattle media soft AF. “growing balls” is probably offensive to them
I know, hence my plea to god
Oline can’t hold a block for even a second.
RUN THE FCKING BALL DOWNHILL WITH CARSON. DONALD IS OUT OF THE GAME
The line isn’t good enough to run behind.
Pocic looks really weak today.
Its to late to establish a running game now.
Gotta go for it!
Why no fullback?
Crap. Apsolute crap. Can’t get a yard FFS.
Total failure by the OL today
And oh great Lewis is down
No confidence the team can pick this up. Sad. This game is the worst.
The Rams have absolutely WHIPPED us today. Off-season here we come.
They have continued to stay with RW the pocket passer. instead of going with the roll out/moving pocket scheme. Also the Rams have played with motivation and the Hawks not. Both of those are bad coaching.
No swagger on offense.
Losing in front of your home crowd
You wish the ground
Would open up and take you down
And will time never pass?
Will time never pass for us?
https://youtu.be/1ZFpRQyJdVc
Total collapse
So many silly mistakes today, no way to win in playoff like this
That one play should get Pete fired .. 4th and 1 delay of game
Can’t even get a play off after a timeout. Unbelievable
They’ve been slow getting to the line all season. Then they do their stupid motion shit. Then they do an audible, but they’re always late and rushed.
I’m done. Shotty, Russ , Pete think they can do the same over and over and expect a different result.
If it lead to changes in the coaching staff then this loss might be very well worth it.
4 yrs of talking like that doeant inspire confidence.
Rams were playing for revenge.
What are the Seahawks playing for, the chance to get beat in the next round?
Seahawks just show up and see how things go. No worries, just happy to be here.
I hope pete finally realizes that you can’t have shit coordinators who are yes men. Good coaches matter.
Hawks mad at playclock. Or they could not take there sweet time walking to the line and line up faster.
guys – thats inexcusable
delay of game w the season on the line.
take the timeout if you have to – unbelievable
I won’t hold my breath on that though.
Only good offensive play call by seahawks is a broken scramble pass. Shorty had a offensive game plan first half of the season everyone has worked out. He can’t adapt and the result is this shit show.
Sean McVay called timeout before the play clock ran out why can’t Pete Carroll? Oh I know why cause he doesn’t realise that the play clock is about to run out. Coaching
Russell Wilson was 2-9 for 6 yards in the third quarter.
Come on guys.. they run the same 4-5 plays all game. Depending on the situation it comes down to 1 or 2. Any defense can be LOB against this offense.
Green Bay will beat the Rams by 20 next week.
Exactly. Rodgers will shred this defense. He’s no Russell Wilson
Maybe it’s a bit harsh, but is Russell still the QB of our future?
Nope
Definitely had too many beers.. but I could see a future with a different Wilson 🙂
I think Wilson will want to leave
Sounds like a disturbing dream.. but trade him to the Jets and pick a QB, maybe Zach Wilson, maybe someone else.. but I think his tenure in Seattle kinda seems over…
Almost 2 am here in Europe.. just also trade Jamal and start the rebuild, lol
Yes….
Trade his ass.
I honestly believe that marriage and fatherhood have become a major factor in Wilson’s apparent lack of focus on his craft.
I think he is receiving terrible advice too from his mental coach team.
I cannot think of any GOAT in a sport to have this “neutral” mindset Wilson has. Kobe, TB12 and MJ were/are vicious competitors who want to win and had the killer instinct to destroy the other team.
He can take his celebrity and celebrity wife to NY. Enough pampering..
There’s enough shite to go around for Shot, Pete, and Russ. Perhaps the most important play of the game and they crap all over themselves… The chickens have truly come home to roost after the off-season, and the head-scratching play calls, clock management and just piss-poor play from Wilson. Rob was spot-on from the beginning. Worst 12-4 team in the NFL in recent memory.
Nice stop. Regardless of the outcome it’s still important.
Whatever
Pete will use t.o as an excuse why we lost this game.
And game.
Pete’s presser:
We lost the turnover battle and that’s why we lost
Exactly. Then he can question reporters for questioning the offense
lmao. I also said this earlier. 100% bet he’s thinking some crap like this. Fcking pathetic. I would say its good since we would get earlier 1st round pick but we traded it
“It was uncharacteristic”
“We were surprised by…”
“The players didn’t deliver”
If Pete would be a decent guy, he’d resign after this joke
He quit on USC when things got bad. Hopefully he will do the same and quit in Seattle. We need new coaching if we want to actually win a SB.
Its been a good season boys.. ups and downs.. exciting finishes.. but this coaching staff is old and outdated. Its pretty obvious that PC brand of football only works if u have special players at many key positions.. there will be more of the same with this crew so. Now should be a time to expect good winning seasons that results in getting whooped in playoffs..
And dj reed fumbles.. holds false starts.. 1st and 20 25 30… see ya next year boys!
Fuck pete fuck russ fuck this city and team im done forever
Don’t let the door hit ya’ where the good lord split ya’
First round playoff exit to an inferior team..here we come.
The rest is just salt in the wound
Lots of salt
Definitely fuck this team!! We need a new owner as soon as possible!
Its been a long time since I’ve felt this down about the hawks. Pete is signed long term and this is what we can expect for the next few years.
So rob, maybe we turn to mariners team. They look to be building something fun with tons of top prospects. Certainly more fun the this teams direction.
I hear there’s a game where they bounce a ball going on right now. Looking into it.
Go Zags!!!!
There’s a lot of blame to go around, but this one is on PC more than anyone else. We just weren’t ready for this game. It’s like we had no game plan for this team that we know so well.
Any seahawk fan still watching this game is a masochist, this game is gone. Absolute failure of a season by the hawks, disgraceful. This one hurts man
Utter, complete and total failure of a season.
And this is what we will continue to get for the rest of the Pete Carroll regime.
Great coaching by the rams and mcvay. That’s the game. We are dinosaurs . That’s the difference. Coaching changes needed but won’t happen.
Kind of the perfect way for this season to end tbh
One word: P A T H E T I C
what a waste for the next 3 years. thats my guess how long it will take to recover from all the shitty offseason moves and lack of draft capital on top of a tight cap
Feels pretty bad Chuck. My not-so-bold prediction is that the Seahawks don’t recapture a championship until the team is sold. We saw the epitome of Pete Ball in the 2020s. It doesn’t work if you don’t build your team for it to work..
Why would JS stay?
How can PC improve anything with this approach?
What incentives are there for Russ to stay?
it sure does seem like its going to be an ugly offseason. I will be surprised if wilson stays. js is hard one to call . Piss poor drafting for a while has caught up. players not playing up to there contract worth. I dont see how they can keep wagner as well, let both griffins and carson go. I can see wilson wanting a trade, but not much of a market for him, so we wont get much in return.
We’ve been in playoffs with weaker players than these. The coaching however did not show any sign of creativity. You can’t play with no brain and you can’t win just with players’ skills. We need a new OC, a new offensive line, and we need Pete to manage the entire coaching team better.
Russell is gone. I’ll be completely shocked if he doesn’t force his way out.
Don’t get me wrong, he was terrible today – but PC has broken him; I have no doubt.
This organization will never get to an NFC championship game with PC as HC.
I hope he forces his way out!
Like I said – he’s been terrible; but there is ZERO blame I’d assign to him for saying “F this, get me out of here.”
Pete ball can’t win in 2021.
Looking forward to Rob’s new article.
Russell is playing his worse stretch of his career. Pete Carroll didn’t all of a sudden break him. It’s not Pete it’s Russell.
Don’t get me wrong Russell’s good. He’s not mahomes he’s not rodgers, he needs a really good team around him which he doesn’t.
We will never know…but I guarantee this is on Pete getting into his head with turnovers. He looks wholly unwilling to take a chance until the he “has” to.
But Pete’s always been like that. And Russell’s playing worse than he ever has. It’s not like Pete has just changed.
Also if don’t turn it over is the goal, Russell didn’t even do a good job of that today. He had a pick six and other passes should have been easily picked.
Stop making excuses for Russell. He’s a good quarterback, but he’s not that close to best in the league like Seahawks fans like to think.
I hope so
Russell Wilson has 8 completions. EIGHT.
A man with a broken finger meanwhile, slinging it as needed.
With Aaron Donald out. Pete’s solution of fixing the offense by making it ineffective is not a real solution. Schotty has to go this offseason. Hes decent OC but were not gonna go to SB with the current personnel here.
Thats luke wilsons contribution.. showing Hollister how to catch
Lol. 😂😂
Seahawks have done a good job of collecting the most unathletic tight end group in the league.
No one can slag you off now Rob. Utter failure since start of free agency.
I dont see talent as the problem, I see coaching as the problem. We have playmaker at every level of our team.
Quarterback is the problem. Let’s stop making excuses for Russell.
I’m sure Wilson’s poor play will be met with half hearted criticisms and blaming others in the organization, as per usual.
So annoying that people make excuses for him. This is the quarterback he is, one that is good enough to win a bunch of games, but not carry a team to a Super Bowl. People who think he is as good as mahomes, rodgers, Brady are delusional.
When he doesn’t have an all time great defense he is a wild card/divisional round quarterback.
Absolutely pathetic.. you are rushing now Russ?
Garbage yards.
Third five and now you decide to run the football down 17 great
I would fire Scotty on that call alone.
Mr Limiiiited.
Good for Swain. Should be upheld on the challenge.
Wilson is cooked. Not meant as a comment on let Russ Cook, just his limitations are never going to allow this team another championship. Great team, but not capable of supporting a QBs that bad.
need new coaching blood period.
this is an ugly end.
the uptempo/hurry up should’ve been the gameplan all along
…de ja vu
Okay, this is gonna be my last comment for tonight.
Rob… I love you and your content.
I wished that you and your criticism were wrong.. for the greater good of the seahawks…
But it seems like our season came to an ugly end.
Here’s to hoping for a better season.
Please keep up your amazing work and keep critizing them if you think that something’s wrong.
Good for DK
Why don’t you go for 2 there???
Game over and offense starts scoring seen this before. Hmmm every bloody playoffs for the last 5 yrs
My wild card weekend haiku:
Russell is broken
The robot needs an update
F*ck off Pete Carroll
They continued to stay with RW the pocket passer instead of going to the roll out/moving pocket scheme. Terrible coaching. Also teams have learned to string Carson out wide because he doesn’t have enough speed to gain many yards that way. the Hawks desperately need a speed burner in the backfield to compliment Carson.
I’ve been saying this for a while. We all love Carson, but dude gives you an average of 13 games a season and gets bottled up whenever its important to NOT. He would make an incredible #2 to spell a more dynamic playmaker.
We need an owner who will hold coaches and management accountable.
Squeaking by the Redskins , 49ers and losing to the Giants were all early warning signs of this.
“BuT sTyLe PoInTs DoN’t MaTtEr!”
“We only Lost today because we lost the turnover battle. That’s not Hawk football. Nothing is wrong with Russ. We need to run the ball more and minimize the turnovers” – PC
Does anyone remember when this defense was goinig to waste another year of prime Russell Wilson? I will remember this season as a year Russell Wilson wasted a year of prime Russell Wilson.
It’s about time for Pete to tell who all are really injured and wanted to play..
This team is a bad joke. Fire everybody, trade/cut everybody and start over
Pete said point blank he wasn’t concerned about the performance of the offense. Time to hold him accountable for doing nothing to remedy a problem that all us fans saw.