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Have a great time! You deserve it, enjoy it all!
Well deserved mate. Enjoy!
Enjoy and have fun !!!
I truly hope it’s a beach on par with that photo. And if that’s your photo, then enjoy your time in paradise!
Based on the sand I would say that is Smyrna Beach.
Lots of shark attacks!
Enjoy! You’ve earned it.
Have fun at Disneyworld!
Enjoy!
Watching full Kentucky 2021 games and found something funny. Will Levis’ official player bio: calms butterflies pregame by doing breathing exercises and visualization to 2012 Bieber music. After football he wants to be a stay at home husband with a wife that earns six figures. Big shower singer.
A real fun eccentric guy. Cant forget about the banana peel eating and coffee mayo.
I’m all aboard the Lose for Levis train.
Quality share.
Good leaders have the ability to laugh at themselves. It appears Levis has that.
I dont want to lose. But I’ll trade up all day, if the foundation looks real.
YOU’ve earned a good holiday Rob!
Have a REALLY great time Rob!
Wish you best holidays!
Have a great time at Disney World! While you are here be sure to try a local favorite “beverage” before getting on a roller coaster. Just north of Pensacola in Brewton, Alabama is the Murder Creek Distillery. They sell jars of moonshine infused marinara cherries and pickles, but the real gem is the moonshine infused banana pudding.
Suck down a jar and enjoy the ride! What could possibly go wrong?
And remember first to eat your meat.
How can you have any pudding if you don’t eat your meat?
That’s right, you can’t have any pudding if you don’t eat your meat.
It’s brown banana pudding after the tea cup ride.
You definitely deserve it. Hope you and your family have a spectacular time. Enjoy.
Upon your return, if you do not post an image of yourself in a Mickey Mouse hat, I will be devastated.
Cheers Rob – travel safely!
Enjoy Disney Rob! I’m sure the wife and kids will always treasure the vacation memories. Safe travels!
Rob: Glad you are taking a HARD EARN rest. With all the time you have put into this SUCCESSFUL blog I wish you the BEST on your time off.
I went to Disney world about 15 years ago and had to listen to a 3 hour sales pitch in a time share. I was so drunk during the presentation that the rep was going to revoke my free stay
why did I never think of doing that?
I hope you and your family have a great time Rob!
Have a wonderful time off with the family! Thanks for all you do.
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/33964422/sources-cleveland-browns-reach-deal-re-sign-jadeveon-clowney-one-year-11-million-deal
Some how other teams GM find way to sign star players with limited or no visible cap space.
His underachieving style fits Cleveland’s culture like a glove.
The salt must flow!
Seahawks expected to sign Marquise Goodwin! That’s interesting. Loading up the WR room
That’ll make Geno happy.
He’s done. Can’t stick with a team this stage of his career. Camp body. Nothing more
Looks like Rob dodged a bullet with the weather here in Florida. Torrential rain and thunderstorms here in Pensacola all week. 93 degrees and partly cloudy in Orlando until Thursday.
I do hope Rob’s kids get to see the awesome heat lightning in the lightning capital of the world. But I don’t think there will be extreme temperatures.
It’s a tradeoff.
I fully acknowledge this is probably nothing.
Very likely nothing.
https://www.instagram.com/p/Cd3R_5xuxSq/
Nothing.
Ruh-roh.
Lol… he took a road trip to… Omaha, Nebraska.
The clue means Denver is going to sign him to be Russ’s backup. Idk. Means absolutely nothing and anyone implying otherwise is being silly.
Not expressing a preference one way or another regarding Baker in Seattle, but I was surprised with the number of comments lamenting the Browns moving on from him. Not exactly consistent with the narrative that he’s radioactive.
SnowTown brewery sticker in back. Snohomish, WA. Mt. Baker. Baker Mayfield. Omaha, Nebraska. Seattle Seahawks. There’s a link somewhere in this mystery.
Are Browns getting closer to eating some amount of contract Seahawks find palatable? Or does Baker Mayfield really enjoy road trips for good WA beer?
What am I missing?
Look at the tap handle
Oops it’s a chair. Better get my eyes checked
Enjoy your vacation Rob!
If you are in the market for a vacation drink, I recommend the Kentucky Mule. Easy to make and super-tasty.
Just mix 2 ounces of bourbon with 1/2 ounce of sweetened lime juice, in a glass with ice, and top off with ginger beer. And as a bonus, it’s probably good karma for getting Will Levis in April 2023.
I also think the SDB community ought to come up with a new mixed drink to be dubbed ‘The Bobby Wagner’. Which would enable all of us to continue to ask the question “How great is Bobby Wagner?” even after the mainstream Seahawks press moves on to other topics. 😉
Yeah but if we make a Bobby Wagner, will the booze avoid contact with the ice cubes?
No, but it doesn’t hit you very hard. You get at least five steps after you finish it before you feel anything.
Oh that’s just bad! Shame on you Starhawk! 😉
Live press conference on youtube getting ready to start. Here’s the link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aQ-MLF-bI4
Thanks, Tom
Barely caught the end. Any highlights or lowlights?
I missed it but here’s notes on the rewatch
[q] Drew Lock progress? “He’s right with us. Geno really has the package nailed. He’s hanging with Geno throughout all of this. We’re not holding anything back. We’re unloading the installation. He’s doing well.”
[q] Measure the rookies against vets? Playbook for 2 weeks? “That’s the first thing is figure out where they are. Been with us enough, 15 plays, section of O and D they can run a ton of, so they’ve come along. Statement about teaching, nice job getting guys prepared. Working hard, I got no complaints. Able to see guys in situations, doing alot of situations to get looks we need. Will be fun?”
[q] Can’t play 11-on 11, how evaluate QBs? “Controlled periods. Before on the field. Situational football. Get as close as you can, use your imagination. What we ask, what calls for, adapt make decisions, shows what you know. This phase is prep for camp. Making progress you can make.”
[q] More accelerated installation because new QBs? “Making sure covering everything. Not assuming anything, leaving anything aside. Cover all bases as early as possible, have base to work from.”
[q] Marquise Grissom? “Background, Sanjay coached with him, insights. Extraordinarily fast, day one can fly. Disciplined route runner, played all the spots. Adds athletically, but versatility. Not asking him to be a mentor to others, but rub off on other guys. Sanjay will use him to demonstrate to other guys. Really, really fast. Played against him. Thought seriously about drafting him way back when.”
[q] Personal tragedy Grissom in 2018? “Don’t know him, really balanced guy. Makeup can handle alot. An awareness. Can deal with issues other struggle with.”
[q] (muddled question) Something about vibe? “There is a vibe about this group. Every year team takes on new makeup. Comes from personalities of players. Leadership shifting a bit, obvious. New season, new team, here we go. Fun to watch take shape.”
[q] Convo with Kam Year Two about leader, anyone like that? “That was first year. Example of nurturing process. See it as we go along. Helping the opps for guys to step out. Ongoing. Natural order to it.”
[q] DK Metcalf into that role? “Yes. Specifically talked to him about it.”
[q] Brooks taking Bobby’s role of play calls for D? “Yes.”
[q] Different Brooks role? “Um….he’s feeling it. Him and Cody engaged with level and position of leadership. Not something we’re talking about.”
[q] Injury guys out for OTA’s? “No. Be here for most part. Doing their own programs to get right. Guys be here at minicamp. Not able to do what we’re doing out here. Chris is around, will know more later in the week.”
[q] Tariq Woolen better? “Wednesday’s his day to go. Ran really good today. Really intrigued by opp for him. Rare athlete. History, background, I like the WR background. But can’t tell much yet. Looks the bill, feels comfortable. Awareness of what we’re doing but until 1on1’s in camp won’t know.”
[q] Cobe Bryant not here? “Family issue, was here this AM, had to leave, will be back Wed.”
[q] Anniversary of ((something)), role of sports? “Title IX hit years ago, my wife first scholarship athlete at UP….” [cha ed – something more about social equality….]
[q] Penny here but not doing anything? “Hamstring issue still tight. Making sure he’s OK. Running around, but not where he can control tempo.”
[q] Collier role changing? “Just flexing his muscle. With the D looking for him, lot of stuff he can do in the scheme. Pass rush come to life, particularly in nickel group.”
[q] Benefits from 3-4 looks? “Not necessarily different for him. Growth, maturity, all that should help him take next step to be viable part, hoping for.”
[q] Where Collier play? “Base technique, 3 tech in nickel stuff.”
[q] Pacific doctorate? [cha ed, blah] Call you doctor now?
[q] Woods and Gabe Jackson? “They’ll be here for minicamp.”
“Where Colluier play?”
Probably in the USFL by next Spring
USFL – The next step towards playing football all year round. Maybe they should make the rookies play in the summer league.
Is he still a Seahawk? Really?!!
Collier will be 27 when the season opens, his fourth season as a first round pick. And PC is still talking about him needing to mature and take charge.
This is it.
Yep. May even be as quietly as possible, released at the end of TC.
Not sure when they signed Marquis Grissom, but I hope Delino DeShields isn’t too far behind.
//facepalm
The deep recesses of my baseball card-collecting brain pulled that one out. Add Larry Walker and we’ve got all the Rookie Threats.
Grissom = Goodwin.
I honestly don’t know how you can decipher all of that Curtis. I can’t hear any of the questions. Well done and thank you!
So I’m just gonna put this out there…
I hope Penny has the best year of his life this year. Get through the injuries and own the league this year! You can do it!!!
Well Tom, he’s being held out right now due to hammy issue 🙄
Yeah, I know…that’s what prompted this comment to begin with. Another year with Penny hurt would completely derail his career at this point.
https://www.si.com/nfl/draft/mocks/2023-nfl-mock-draft-skilled-position-prospects-dominate-round-1#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=16533607912768&csi=0&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&share=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.si.com%2Fnfl%2Fdraft%2Fmocks%2F2023-nfl-mock-draft-skilled-position-prospects-dominate-round-1
If Seattle ended up with Anderson and Van Dyke I would be weep with joy
The fact that that is even a possibility, is amazing. With no trading! Keeping the future resources. Snag the best Center with our 2nds and boom, we back at it.
If you need a laugh, this piece by the SI’s Cowboy coverage site is absolutely *chef’s kiss*
https://www.si.com/nfl/cowboys/news/dallas-deejay-cooper-rush-dak-prescott-trade-offense-kick-return-rumors-update
He starts the piece by subtly shading ‘talk show hosts and armchair general managers’ putting crazy pieces together to try and improve their teams.
He then proceeds to do exactly that – put a crazy piece together to try and improve the Cowboys.
He sees the Seahawks aren’t set at QB and notes that he thinks the Cowboys have a generous bounty there and posits that Cooper Rush is an attractive trade target based on – wait for it – one NFL start:
OK. Rush is clearly awesome and would blow Geno and Lock off the field.
The next step is to see what Dallas needs:
Is there a player on the Seahawks that could help the Cowboys there?
Ah, Deejay Dallas. He could handle the punt return duties the Cowboys so badly need.
Only…
Deejay Dallas has never returned a punt in the NFL. Ever. He returned 11 punts in college, 4 seasons ago.
He’s returned kickoffs, which is not the same thing.
So the Seahawks are trading a player with zero NFL experience filling a need the Cowboys have, for a player that has close to zero NFL experience to fill a need the Seahawks have.
This is by his own definition ‘armchair GM’-ing.
Credit where credit is due though. At least he resisted the temptation to make a “Deejay Dallas is a natural fit to play for Dallas. Get it? Eh?”
But here’s the pièce de résistance:
He ends the piece by talking himself out of the trade he just proposed, rendering the whole piece moot:
More and more I cannot figure how Rob is not a paid NFL writer, given what else is on offer out there.
And they pay this guy real money to generate this stuff?
That is some seriously pathetic crap.
And yeah, how is it a guy like Rob that is succinct in his thoughts and how he presents them along with being very knowledgeable is a ghost on the NFL journalistic landscape?
https://twitter.com/CharlesRobinson/status/1529113983269093381
So is it a burden on someone’s back leaving it in Indy?
Speaking of journalistic stupidity………..it’s freaking BURNERED, not burdened.
Good news for our Robbie
This is great news for me! I might even be able to talk Rob into coming out for the combine next year.
I fancy it…
Canzano: No wiggle room — NFL’s Seahawks and NBA’s Blazers must be sold
Paul G. Allen Trust is very specific.
https://www.johncanzano.com/p/canzano-no-wiggle-room-nfls-seahawks?sd=nfs&s=r
So who do we want to buy the hawks and any rumors of interest?
OVG would make a lot of sense.
You weren’t the only one that laughed at him Marshawn. Pretty much evet football fan in the world did too:
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10036749-marshawn-lynch-says-he-laughed-at-seahawks-pete-carroll-for-super-bowl-49-play-call
Butler gets no respect for making a good play. It was low risk and good clock management.
Far from low risk. A pass into a crowded spot on the field to a 5th string WR who’s main job on the team was gunner on KOs is not low risk. Low risk would’ve been a fade to the corner of the end zone.to Chris Matthews who was taller than the Pats DBs.
Clock mgmt? Maybe tho this whole “don’t score too fast” to me is crap. Just score, get a lead and let the chips fall where they may. Every time an announcer says “they shouldn’t score too fast” it gets my hackles up.
Agreed. Clock management? Maybe. But that play was about as high risk as it could get. Very, very risky call. Relied on Kearse to stone the biggest, strongest CB in the NFL at the time, and a special teams guy to fight for position to get the ball as a receiver, cutting into the middle of a stacked defense.
Pete largely succeeded in getting the media to focus on the “run vs pass” issue, but that was a red herring. The right issue was “if you are going to pass, what pass should you call?” And the one he picked–on personnel and location–was just awful. Which of course he will never admit.
💯
Never liked that with the game on the line you go to your 5th WR. Keep rolling with Matthews or single up Doug. I understand the time stuff. Rodgers went straight down the field with little time 2 weeks earlier to to force OT. Kam, Sherm, Earl, Avril and Lane all hurt too.
You realize that Chris Matthews wasn’t even WR 5, right? Yes, he made some big catches earlier in the game, but if you’re going to complain about throwing to the special teams gunner – Matthews wasn’t even that.
He had the hot hand. Lockette never once had a game like that. But I understand the point
I always felt like they should have called a roll out for Russ. Option to run or pass, gets him away from the teeth of a D that was set up to stuff the middle and leaves the option to just throw it away if needed and live to run another play.
Also a good option imo
Russ’s likelihood of taking an unnecessary sack playing hero is as high as Marshawn’s likelihood of fumbling, and would have been just as devastating. Loss of down, yardage, valuable time, and restricting available plays. The call was fine, the execution sucked
False dichotomy. No play is called or run in a vacuum. At the least, the execution sucked because the personnel was wrong for the call. At the most, even the right personnel would not have justified that particular call.
The call was not fine. Russ trying to throw into a crowd to the 5th receiver who was not really known for his catching ability was not a great call. Maybe if they had called the play for Doug it would have worked better. There was just a much higher chance of something going wrong on that play than a fade or roll out.
I still think they watched and filmed our practice for that game, they were busted before and after this game filming.
Won’t argue that your opinion is without merit. No evidence has ever surfaced like we’ve seen in other cases, but that doesn’t mean it didn’t happen.
I believe that there were players that said they knew the play was coming.
The defensive guy said they had practiced against that play. But it’s a pretty standard play for every team except the Seahawks. So of course they would practice against that and the more common roll out and throw to the corner type plays.
Quite the opposite, Hawks ran that play quite a bit that year
The only ‘evidence’ is that they practiced against this exact play. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/patriots-ran-seahawks-pass-play-in-practice-and-malcolm-butler-got-beat/
All I can say, cheaters are going to cheat. Of course, they are going to say that they practiced that same play, what else would they say? We cheated?
I guess a good scouting report also doesn’t matter, it’s a play we ran many times before and could easily be recognized.
I guess filming another team’s practice would be considered a great scouting report. I am over the loss as much as possible, but one thing I can do is give the patriots benefit of doubt when it comes to spy gate etc. The biggest takeaway from all that is, they should have run the ball on that play. Clear and simple
I should be a better proofreader, it’s one thing I can’t do is give the pats the benefit of doubt
Thoughts on the new season long “docuseries” the Seahawks will be doing, starting tonight at 6pm? Seems like it’ll be their own Hard Knocks or something. Quite interested honestly.
What service is it on?
First episode was premiered through their youtube channel. Not sure where else it was. Might be just YT.
Cool. Thanks for mentioning it.
Big buddy buddy vibe with Jody there.
And how do you almost miss your draft call on draft day?! 😅
Fresh Seattle Air | The Sound Of The Seahawks – Episode 1
https://youtu.be/nzOpl9tcEW4
Hey Rob,
The new Obi-Wan Kenobi series drops on Disney+ this Friday. Are they doing anything at Disney World to promote it at Star Wars land?
Not to my knowledge but I’m not a Star Wars man so we didn’t spend much time in that section
So I’m not the only one.
Stranger Things can’t get here soon enough.
Didn’t he play running back with Warren Moon in Houston?
Brock Huard’s take on the potential sale of the Seahawks is pretty interesting…
https://sports.mynorthwest.com/1622787/seahawks-sale-not-so-fast-brock-huard/
When you read it bear in mind that Pete Carroll’s contract runs to 2025 & John Schneider’s to 2027.
If the assets have to be sold does the Trust care about losing that money? I am sure some deal could be made if a buyer comes forward.
https://theathletic.com/3311028/2022/05/24/vic-fangio-defense-analysis/
anyone read this article on the fangio defense? pretty cool breakdown of what we might expect next year.
I’m all for a change in defensive coaching. Lord knows the Seahawks needed it badly.
And yeah, Sean McVay asking who gives him trouble and having him point at Fangio, and connecting that to the fact that the Seahawks promoted and hired Fangio people on defense – fantastic.
Picking up Boye Mafe, Tyreke Smith and the two corners were excellent moves.
But now the staff has to put all this together and reading that piece, it sure sounds like they’re using a lot of the same guiding principles they did last year.
I’m bracing for another Week 6 press conference where Pete is asked about how the defense doesn’t look organized at all and is on track to give up an NFL record amount of yards and says ‘yeah, but we’re competing our butts off and we’ve got some things to clean up.’
Wouldn’t surprise me one bit. If Desai in particular leaves after one year, we’ll know Pete couldn’t keep his hands out of the cookie jar as usual and didn’t let these new hires do their thing to the degree they want to/should be allowed to.
Hope springs eternal, but Pete Carroll is still running the show here. I’m afraid expecting major changes in approach and/or performance is a fool’s errand. What I’m saying is by all means let’s hope our butts off, but expecting things to be different is setting ourselves up for disappointment.
Kenneth Arthur curse-laden rant currently going on at Seaside Joe podcast over the Bill Barnwell article.
I. Love. It.
What Barnwell article are you referring to?
Hawks is heading right direction because media didn’t like their move this offseason.
https://www.fieldgulls.com/2022/5/26/23143158/they-couldve-kept-russell-wilson-fired-pete-carroll-espn-ranks-seahawks-offseason-nfl-worst
It’s a crap argument by Barnwell. And I was very happy to fire Pete and move in a different direction. But his assessment of the situation feels lazy and quoting Baldwin is the pièce de résistance
Yes i was hoping to let Pete go and have Russ for the future. But Rob you made good point in number of articles to give Pete an chance to rebuild as he has earn it. For me, Russ trade is past if it is good or bad time will tell. It’s now history but Pete can rebuild the team and prove his worth. Here in SDB we think they did good in draft and we hope next year this time we are start dreaming for super bowl.
Is Barnwell the same guy who used to write interesting articles based on unique metrics and insights and now mostly rights shock pieces behind a paywall?
100% agree on Barnwell article. Its just lazy as hell. I and we believe the Seahawks have a clear path at what they want to do at QB.
Yeah, Barnwell started out with Football Outsiders before moving to ESPN as part of Bill Simmons’ wing. Instead of moving to Simmons’ new site, he stayed with ESPN and is behind the paywall.
I haven’t read his work since it started costing $, outside of what gets snapshotted on Twitter or Field Gulls or whatever. My limited exposure leads me to believe he’s part of the analytics crowd that thinks the numbers tell most (if not all) the story of football instead of adding a useful perspective to a complicated conversation.
The “who had the worst offseason” is subjective, so he can believe it’s the Seahawks. I think the Browns had the worst offseason. The Watson trade/contract, while also alienating and tanking any value for Baker was terrible. I feel for Browns fans, but I hope they suck until Watson is gone.
Barnwell is right. Odious Jody’s decision to retain Pete will go down as an infamously bad decision, likely the worst in the history of Seattle professional sports. I take no pleasure in expressing this opinion.
And you’re welcome to that opinion
But claiming the arguments he develops from that, including going down the tiresome running backs debate, is lame
Worst in the history of Seattle professional sports … ? Seems like you’re blowing it a bit out of proportion …
Howard Schultz would like to have a conversation with you.
The Brock Huard article is really interesting and brings up one of my big worries. The Paul G. Allen trust has a fiduciary responsibility to the trust and nothing else. Let’s say somehow we end up with a top-notch QB that needs a big contract and some $100 million guaranteed. That money has to be put into escrow from the owner. Does the trust allow that? I am going out on a limb and saying no, the trust would not allow the team to risk the trust’s money to that degree (even if there really is no risk). So does Jody have that kind of scratch to put into escrow? We know nothing about her- hell, she could be worth less than $100 million for all we know. I mean, we know literally nothing about her financial situation or if Paul left her anything at all. If the trust states that the team has to be run in a way that risks as little as possible so it can be sold as soon as possible for as much as possible, then we’re going to need these rookies to really turn out because our ability to sign big-ticket free agents may be very limited.
I wonder if our season ticket holders could organize a Green Bay style public buyout.
I remember hearing that the nfl would never allow that sort of thing to happen again unfortunately.
Source?
Really, as long as it makes money does Roger Goodell really care?
Yes, there are specific rules about NFL ownership. One owner needs to have at least 30% of ownership of the team, and there are a max of 24 people that can be part of the ownership team.
Green Bay was grandfathered in.
And to be honest I think having a strong owner is extremely important. Let’s be honest about the Packers- they kind of lucked into having back-to-back HOF QBs and even then only won two Super Bowls in over 25 years. Without Fabre and Rodgers they’re probably perennials also-rans. Give me a strong Paul Allen type any day.
Although the NFL will not allow community ownership again I wish that they would. No chance of a franchise moving with community ownership, it should be easier to get approval for stadium rebuilding with community ownership, and 2 championships in 25 years is way better than the Seahawks have done (and since Paul Allen we have performed very well).
I agree with Hawkcrazy. According to my extensive research (i.e. a quick look on Wikipedia), the Packers are the 27th most valuable sports franchise in the world, which ain’t bad for a team based in a city of c.100k inhabitants. Variety is the spice of life & a multiplicity of ownership models just adds to the flavour!
Has anyone watched the Kinlaw/Cohn spat? I guess that’s what happens when you ask the tough questions. Yikes!
No, that’s not what happens.
Cohn isn’t ‘asking the tough questions’
He’s being a troll.
Simple as that
Hmm.. I think I misremembered him as the guy you interviewed after he put Russ on the spot with some tough followups. My bad.
No that’s Rob Guerrera
For a credentialed member of the press, Cohn has consistently said some of the strangest NFL things I’ve ever read on Twitter. It was just a matter of time before he stepped on a player’s toes hard enough to make him squawk.
I watched one of his videos once
Could barely believe what he was doing
Am I the first to notice you are back? Or were you jonesin for fix of the SDB community?
I’m still away until next week
I liked Pat Macafee’s take on this…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VODSt28JEZk
Good grief
Puts Uncle Will in a different perspective.
Lol such a browns move. My first thought was literally: why? That dissly contract is an underpay in comparison, good lord
Kittle has gotta be drooling
I don’t know who approved this “vacation” but they made a great huge big enormous mistake.
Selfishly I am prone to agreeing with you.
FWIW
https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2022/05/browns-wont-cut-baker-mayfield-so-panthers-others-shouldnt-hold-their-breath-no-2-receiver-not-a-priority-browns-insider.html
The Seahawks are doing the right thing here
Don’t waste a pick on a rental/competition piece when the focus should be on the 2023 draft
Be patient at QB
If he’s there, cheap and available — fine
Paying him more than a minimal amount and giving up a pick would be dumb
The media who don’t get it and think they need to do whatever it takes to upgrade the QB position for 2023 need to realise what’s happening here. They might not publicly call it a rebuild but it’s a rebuild
They get to have a look at Drew Lock without giving Mayfield practice reps as well.
Rob, welcome back! Your post here is a breath of fresh air in the stifling thought-box that is MSM/YouTube (and probably Twitter, though I have eschewed any involvement in those quarters since back in the day).
This is just me talking, but in a way, the thought of being able to relax and digest the young talent they have taken on board and concentrate on the development thereof without the distraction of fretting over how whatever QB the broader fanbase wants to believe might elevate the team is an oddly calming proposition.
And I admit to a wee bit of curiosity as to how the QB room as is can make out. If they look flat, then we’ll be geared up to take a legit shot in the draft next year. If they surprise and outperform expectations, we’ll-all the better.
I find I can muster the patience you mentioned in your post, and I’m no spring chicken. I say, bring it, come what may!
“The media who don’t get it and think they need to do whatever it takes to upgrade the QB position for 2023 need to realise what’s happening here”
Exactly. And upgrading the QB position for 2023 doesn’t mean it needs to be urgently addressed during the summer of 2022.
Terrible sad news, Cardinals corner Jeff Gladney has died at the age of 25. Car accident in Dallas. RIP Jeff.
Dang. RIP, young man.
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/34010951/arizona-cardinals-cb-jeff-gladney-dies-car-accident-age-25
So this caught my eye but there’s no source to it and mere speculation.
https://folobooks.com/seahawks-rumors-bucs-dt-ndamukong-suh-a-fit-for-seattle/
But I thoroughly enjoyed this
Somebody had a really good holiday weekend.
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I’ll have another round please bartender
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I think he is using the seahawks as leverage again, he has done it before
Boner Ford
Someone had a little too much beer with their steak lol
https://seasidejoe.substack.com/p/how-much-in-dead-money-do-the-seahawks?s=r
Kenneth has a worthy discussion here that the Seahawks have a big dead cap hit this year.
He brings it up like it’s ‘irksome’
I’m not worried about it at all though. All the numbers are pretty well justified.
-Brown and Diggs ($6m) are there because they were unhappy and the Seahawks reworked their contracts to give them money up front instead of extending them. They saved $6m on the 2021 cap and rolled it over. So it’s a wash that is inflating the number.
-Mayowa, Everett, Pocic and Ogbuehi ($5.6m) are void years used by the Seahawks to squeeze under the 2021 cap due to the COVID cap deflation. Every team in the NFL had to manage that. Cost of doing business.
-Hyder and Wagner ($5.45m) were dead weight and the Seahawks cleared almost $20m off the books by cutting them loose.
-Witherspoon ($1.25m) they got a 5th round pick for, rather than carry him all year and pay him
-The big enchilada – RW ($26m) – the Seahawks returned Harris, Fant, Lock, Charles Cross and Boye Mafe + the ammo to land a QB in 2023.
I’m not worried about the dead cap number for this year, not one bit.
Oh, and for 2023?
Even money that the Seahawks will stack $4.6m for Chris Carson and at least $7.11m (and maybe all $21.33m) for Jamal Adams in 2023.
I was just looking at the cap and it looks to me as if the Seahawks are right on schedule in their two year rebuild.
This year will be good training for the young tackles and defensive players. The offense will be supported by a strong running games that will hopefully be a double or triple headed monster. The defense will be work in progress but at the least should be better at pass rushing.
Money wise, not much dead cap in 2023 so the Seahawks should have lots of money to work with. Now if they can just keep making good draft choices and not overpay the vets.
Pete has gone from zero (Adams trade) to hero. Let’s hope he continues the trend.
Also I’m against guaranteeing alot of money to a running back. They aren’t valued that highly by the league, and the vets we have our recovering from injuries. Pay them when they play!
“….and maybe all $21.33m for Jamal Adams in 2023.”
Likely because of injuries to shoulders. Maybe an injury settlement.
Bucs keep investing in the DL. When will they learn? Safeties are where it’s at.
In case anyone is interested, Pete and the boys will be having a press conference today scheduled for 1:45 PT.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnstbxJh42M
Very good answer without giving too much information
The dude is just a breath of fresh air. Loved his press conference.
Lol. Every year…
Haha, more of it…
To be fair, Barton is much better playing on the inside than outside.
Just not sure he can stack like you want your Mike to stack…
True, but IMO, I think he’s ok and can fill the role in the current state of the franchise. We definitely need to upgrade his position, but don’t think it’s urgent.
The only one more tiresome than ‘showed up in the best shape of his life’ is one the Seahawks have trotted out for the third year in a row:
“Our high-paid stars aren’t on the field practicing, sure, but they’re on Zoom with all the planning meetings so they’re not missing anything. Besides this gives our backups a chance to get some first team reps, so this is actually a good thing!”
This was about four months removed from Pete at the podium, eulogizing a poor defensive season with ‘not having our guys on the practice field really hurt us.’
I think it’s poor that certain players aren’t there
More should be made of those who couldn’t be arsed
Who isn’t there?
I should ask, who isn’t on the field practicing?
Gabe Jackson and Al Woods aren’t there.
DK, Adams, Diggs, Brown, BBK and Rhattigan are still rehabbing.
Thanks
Jackson likely knows he’s out the door but Woods? SMDH
The rehab guys I get it.
The only 3 I’ve seen about are Quandre, Jamal and DK. Which tbf makes sense with all 3 coming off injuries and DK presumably wanting a contract extension first.
Woods, Jefferson and Harris aren’t there
If Harris isn’t rehabbing, shouldn’t he as a new guy that’s being counted on be part of the on field program? And Woods as a vet “leader” should be too right?
Giving me vibes of when the veteran players declined to attend due to COVID and Pete shrugged it off. Came back to bite them in the butt once again.
So how much of this is on Pete who is well known for running a “loose ship”?
Kind of a rhetorical question, but interested in people’s opinions about that.
I would hope the ‘arrogant’ comment includes things like this.
Hurtt said the two big things for his crew are Accountability and Communication. Not off to the greatest start.
Sigh
I’ll submit “there’s a real buzz around here this year that reminds me of 2012” for “most tiresome Seahawks training camp platitude”
MC
QJeff too?
So why would any 1st rounder need an agent? All their salaries are slotted are they not? I mean hire a lawyer to make sure the contract is the standard NFL rookie deal and keep the 10% for yourself. 2nd contract and on, I get it but not for the rook deal.
I think teams are finally giving the idea of trying for offsets in rookie contracts, so yeah that roadblock that would require an agent is almost done with.
Blast his hide to Hades! And Leigh Steinberg was going to buy that ivory back scratcher too!
Have you no heart, sir?
Jim Nagy interview on Locked on Seahawks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6B7R6afWPL0
And I’m just going to put this out there.
I want this new defense to make quarterbacks shit the bed like Amber Herd.
It seems that Depp has some ‘shitting’ to do, also. But really, what is the purpose of you even using her to make a point in a sports blog?
I guess you don’t watch Saturday Night Live.
Ugh…Brady Henderson on 710 said “From what I’ve heard, I really think that Drew Lock is going to have to be the convincing winner of this QB competition and any tie will go to Geno Smith.” So it turns out Pete is full of more hot air than a balloon. Color me as shocked!
Well, bring on the high draft pick!
(It will be torture having to watch Smith for potentially 17 games though)
Talking about torture, it’s a good thing the defense has barely improved talent wise, so he will not hit the field that much.
That’s what the 30 minute replay is for!
Can’t imagine Lock won’t see any time this year. Whether that is due to Geno being ineffective or serving a suspension for his DUI.
If Lock can’t convincingly beat out Smith he doesn’t deserve the job. It’s not exactly a high bar to clear.
Yes, it would be nice if Lock beats out Geno, but ultimately it doesn’t matter. The future starter is not on the roster. Just get through the season and develop the young guys.
If Lock cannot beat Geno…. top 5 pick here we come
Yep. We’ve got pieces in place (admittedly a lot of unrealised potential) to replicate the Bills over the course of the next 3 seasons. A (potentially future) solid D and ground game just needing a QB to put us over the top for upper echelon contention… Again, most likely in 3 seasons, but possibly 2 if all the stars align.
Tangentially Seahawks-related
This could be a good thing for the Blazers. Phil is as Oregon as it gets and him being part of the ownership group would be interesting, especially since Nike has athletes from ALL teams in pro sports signed to various deals, not just BBall.
Seahawks likely the next sale in about a year’s time after this goes through, assuming it does. That’s speculation on my part but the time frame seems about right. I badly want both franchises to have quality ownership because success does indeed start at the top. Same goes for the “new” Sonics when the NBA expands to Seattle and Vegas in ’24.
On a side note, I REALLY want all the historical team records of the Sonics back in Seattle where they belong and the OKC carpetbaggers can have their own history and team records. Fuck them.
Broncos sale narrowed to 4 bids, local word is the sale will easily be north of $4B, but expect final price to land above $5B.
Will be interesting to see who can cough up $6B for the Seahawks.
PSA: Do not attempt to listen to a Shane Waldron interview while operating heavy machinery.
🥱😴
Almost completely content free for 16+ minutes. Impressive.
The Cleveland Browns have dug themselves such a deep hole they’ll be THE cautionary tale in the NFL for the next 3-4 years. Maybe a decade.
Every time I think of the implications of what they’ve done this offseason I cannot fathom how people in charge of a legacy franchise that is worth billions have made the decisions they’ve made.
I wouldn’t trade the Seahawks’ roster and cap obligations straight up for the Browns’ right now. That’s me saying no to Myles Garrett, Clowney, Nick Chubb, Jack Conklin, Jedrick Willis and Denzel Ward and yes to Drew Lock, Jamal Adams, Chris Carson and Gabe Jackson.
Because that franchise is so monumentally screwed up.
Funny thing is no one in media is complaining about the moves how they mortgage Browns future decade hoping Watson clicks and not arrested.
Florio has been all over it.
Just watched RW3 shooting a „Let‘s Ride“ scene in front of a greenscreen.
I can now comfortably say that Seattle won this trade 😂
Cha, it’s like the hole the Brown’s have dug for themselves with their recent dealings could almost take one’s mind off Seattle’s case of ‘Buyer’s Remorse’ with ‘Mr Designer Coffee Cup’!
Okay-I did say ‘almost’. 😏
Adams is a drop in the bucket compared to Watson.
I didn’t think anyone could top how bad the Adams trade was. Regardless of the outcome, The Watson trade definitely has. I remember not understanding the Adams trade before hearing the compensation. I felt the same about anyone aquiring Watson, only worse. Yes QB was a need, but the cost & the risk; on top of everything else. Comparatively it makes the Adams trade look brilliant. Thank you Cleveland.
I’m curious about Drew Lock. Was there a portion of the Denver fan base that believed in him? He had a pretty good rookie season as far as first years go, and then he was saddled with a new coordinator and play book during a season that didn’t really have all the off-season and pre season they usually get. That would be insane for a second year qb. I’m not saying I’m sure this guy will be the future, but what if? I have to think Denver fans might be feeling like they just traded the farm and are committing to a huge future cap hit before seeing if Lock could have been the guy. Imagine a world where Seattle doesn’t have to draft a qb in 23 and can use 2 firsts however they want. (Anderson)
How can he be the future if he can’t seem to beat out Geno Smith to take snaps with the 1s?
There’s a lot of time left before the season starts. And I’m not sure that he isn’t really beating Geno out. I’ve heard good things so far, but who knows with all the double speak this time of year?
Having listened to Lock a few times he seems likeable and has a good demeanor that i wouldn’t hate rooting for.
However he has a real problem. He’s not accurate. Not in college. Not in the pros. And his mistakes are turnovers. It’s not just low percentage accuracy and simple td/int ratio. It’s a very low completion rate and a nearly 1:1 td/int rate. Maybe that changes but i don’t think that’s as simple of a fix as “waldron’s offense,” which remains basically a mystery as to what that even is.
Seahawks did not get a proven bona fide stud at QB in Lock, which is why Lock was more of an add-on than a valued asset in the RW trade, at least from Denver’s perspective. However, his college TD:Int ratio was upper echelon, his Y/A were also generally around 8 (very good), and his accuracy was respectable and improved each year finishing at just under 63%.
His best year in the NFL was his first. He showed promise. Then a middling full season under a new OC, then a very limited stint last year with also middling results, albeit with a few great throws in tight windows. He did have some mild gains in Y/A last season as well, which is important because check down QBs rarely win the big games.
There’s no right answer on whether he should be looked at as glass half-empty or half-full. Though, given the situation of RW wanting out and limited teams he would go to, outside of landing Watson and the huge mess/moral/legal baggage, Lock appears to be the best available QB that was available. He arguably has a lot of unrealised potential and just may flourish in his new home. But if he doesn’t, and Geno also does not manage a 105 QBR over a full season (like he had last year) then we will be drafting our QoF in 2023.
I’m content in either scenario, and also hope for the OP’s premise of “what if Lock is good” and we then get to use all of that draft stock on further strengthening the team rather than needing to draft a QB. Best Seahawks off-season in a long time. Go Hawks!
Alex Mack retires
https://twitter.com/alexmack51/status/1532732047646760961/photo/1
I hope geno is the starter
Would show the Seahawks are committing to the tank
Which is what they need to do
The tank narrative is getting old now. It’s not going to happen.
Pricey…..
https://www.si.com/nfl/broncos/news/russell-wilson-new-contract-asking-price-rumor
How the Broncos did not say to both parties “Russ signs an extension or no trade” is beyond me.
What, did they think the market for QBs was going to cool down?
AR had signed for $45m with $100m guaranteed just that day. Two weeks later Watson signed for $46m with $230m guaranteed.
Good ol’ Mark Rodgers. Glad we’re rid of him.