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Live blog: Combine day four (Offensive linemen)

Welcome to the 2024 NFL combine coverage on Seahawks Draft Blog

On the final day of workouts I’ll be reacting live to everything happening in Indianapolis as the offensive linemen test and do drills. I will also post a recap article at the conclusion and we’ll do a final combine live stream.

Keep refreshing this page for updates

The workouts begin today at 1pm ET (10am PT).

Measurement notes

— Amarius Mims should be getting far more attention as an extremely high pick. He is 340lbs and barely has an pound of bad weight on his frame. He looks like an AI creation for the perfect offensive lineman. He has 36.5 inch arms, 11 1/2 inch hands and a near 87 inch wingspan. His tape is excellent. He could legitimately be one of the best offensive tackles in the league and he is a once in a generation physical specimen. Let’s see how he tests but too many people are focusing on other linemen. Mims is legit.

— Olu Fashanu has 8.5 inch hands. That is… weird.

— Like Mims, JC Latham needs more attention. He is another colossus — 6-5, 342lbs, 35.5 inch arms, 11 inch hands, 84.5 inch wingspan. You don’t find players very often with this level of size and mobility.

— Job done in the measurements for Troy Fautanu. He has 34.5 inch arms on a nearly 6-4, 317lbs frame. That will be enough for teams to consider him a likely top-20 talent.

— Graham Barton is 1/8 inch away from having 33 inch arms — a good result for him.

— Zak Zinter is nearly 6-6, 309lbs and has 33.5 inch arms. All very good marks for his stock.

— Overall, this really is a stunning class of offensive linemen for size/length. I can’t recall anything like it. It’s going to be very tempting for teams, including the Seahawks, to tap into what could be an extremely rare OT class.

Offensive line forty’s (group 1)

10 yard splits in brackets

Isaiah Adams — 5.22 (1.80) & 5.24 (1.82)
Joe Alt — 5.07 (1.74) & 5.05 (1.73)
Gottlieb Ayedze — 5.01 (1.76) & 5.01 (1.72)
Karsen Barnhart — 5.26 (1.78) & 5.22 (1.76)
Cooper Beebe — 5.05 (1.76) & 5.03 (1.75)
Keaton Bills — 5.41 (1.90) & 5.38 (1.90)
Tanor Bortolini — 4.99 (1.74) & 4.94 (1.69)
Andrew Coker — 5.39 (1.90) & 5.37 (1.85)
Brandon Coleman — 4.99 (1.73) & DNR
Frank Crum — 5.00 (1.70) & 4.94 (1.69)
Olu Fashanu — 5.11 (1.77) & DNR
Troy Fautanu — 5.01 (1.71) & 5.05 (1.72)
Blake Fisher — 5.21 (1.82) & DNR
Jeremy Flax — 5.67 (1.96) & 5.65 (1.97)
Javon Foster — 5.30 (1.79) & DNR
Taliese Fuaga — 5.20 (1.77) & 5.14 (1.78)
X’Zauvea Gadlin — 5.51 (1.90) & 5.51 (1.91)
Nick Gargiulo — 5.26 (1.78) & 5.26 (1.78)
Delmar Glaze — 5.21 (1.79) & 5.23
Tylan Grable — 4.99 (1.70) & 4.96 (1.69)
Garret Greenfield — 5.30 (1.82) & 5.23 (1.77)
Tyler Guyton — 5.19 (1.76) & 5.21 (1.76)
CJ Hanson — 5.00 (1.76) & 5.02 (1.78)
Christian Haynes — 5.03 (1.75) & DNR
Christian Jones — 5.05 (1.78) & 5.07 (1.78)
Matthew Jones — 5.21 (1.87) & 5.23 (1.88)
Trente Jones — 5.19 (1.79) & 5.17 (1.81)
Trevor Keegan — 5.28 (1.81) & 5.25 (1.78)

Olu Fashanu says he isn’t going to do anything else today after one forty run. He says he has a right thigh injury.

O-line vertical jumps (Group 1)

Remember — 31 inches is the ideal mark for explosive testing.

Garret Greenfield: 38.5
Tylan Grable: 36.5
Tyler Guyton: 34.5
Brandon Coleman: 34
C.J. Hanson: 33.5
Christian Haynes: 33
Tanor Bortolini: 32.5
Troy Fautanu: 32.5
Javon Foster: 32.5
Nick Gargiulo: 32.5
Olu Fashanu: 32
Taliese Fuaga: 32
Frank Crum: 31.5
Trevor Keegan: 30.5
Keaton Bills: 29.5
Karsen Barnhart: 29.5
Blake Fisher: 28
Matthew Jones: 28
Joe Alt: 28
Jeremy Flax: 28
Cooper Beebe: 27.5
Anim Dankwah: 27.5
Trente Jones: 27
Gottlieb Ayedze: 26.5
Javion Cohen: 26.5
Delmar Glaze: 25.5
Andrew Coker: 25.5
Isaiah Adams: 24.5
X’Zauvea Gadlin: 24

Garret Greenfield’s 38.5 inch vertical is the best mark by an offensive lineman for 20 years.

Offensive line broad jumps (Group 1)

The minimum for an ideal explosive testing mark is 9-1. As you can see, this is a very explosive group. And this is only group one!

Tylan Grable: 9’9″
C.J. Hanson: 9’7″
Brandon Coleman: 9’6″
Frank Crum: 9’6″
Garret Greenfield: 9’5″
Troy Fautanu: 9’5″
Gottlieb Ayedze: 9’4″
Tanor Bortolini: 9’4″
Joe Alt: 9’4″
Karsen Barnhart: 9’3″
Taliese Fuaga: 9’3″
Cooper Beebe: 9’1″
Olu Fashanu: 9’1″
Trente Jones: 9’1″
Trevor Keegan: 8’11”
Tyler Guyton: 8’11”
Javon Foster: 8’10”
Delmar Glaze: 8’8″
Javion Cohen: 8’8″
Matthew Jones: 8’7″
Christian Haynes: 8’6″
Isaiah Adams: 8’6″
Keaton Bills: 8’5″
Nick Gargiulo: 8’5″
Jeremy Flax: 8’4″
X’Zauvea Gadlin: 8’0″
Andrew Coker: 7’10”

O-line group 1 on-field drills

Joe alt looked stiff on his wave drill, his footwork wasn’t great and he slipped at one point. Cooper Beebe looks big and bulky but moves as well as you can expect for a chunky guard. He has very short arms which will put off some teams but he’s a very good player.

Tanor Bortolini looked terrific during the wave. Easy movements, very mobile and quick. He’s extremely explosive with his vertical and broad jump and he ran a 4.94. Impressive workout so far.

Troy Fautanu looked really comfortable in his set, he can sit down in his position with the right bend and move around. He didn’t change direction quite as well as Daniel Jeremiah was trying to make out but you can just see the natural leg bend.

Taliese Fuagu had a sensational wave drill. His change of direction at his size — wow. What movement skills. So fluid and athletic. Tyler Guyton also excelled in the wave — just smooth, easy movements. Effortless.

Christian Haynes had a really good rep — another O-line with easy movement skills and got around the field nicely. Trente Jones and Trevor Keegan, two of the Michigan offensive linemen, also did really well in the first on-field drill.

Fair play to Zach Frazier, out there doing drills so soon after recovering from a serious injury. He’s a dude on tape — and he loves to hit people in the face (supposedly what Ryan Grubb wants up front).

The NFL Network having Shaun O’Hara on the field producing actual analysis on the offensive linemen is a breath of fresh air after three previous days of what I’d call ‘areseing about’.

The long pull and deep pull drills feels a little bit of a dog and pony show, given the main aspect of a play like this is an ability to find a second level player to block and execute. They’re really just running around a cone. Fuagu and Guyton again looked really mobile.

I’m really impressed with the movement skills of Jones and Keegan from Michigan. They are really standing out here.

Chris Ballard is down on the field, the Colts GM, watching the O-line drills closely. Can well imagine the Colts being in the O-line market at #15.

Christian Haynes is having a nice workout. He’s a bit top-heavy with his frame but he’s moving nicely enough. I’m constantly draw to the Michigan pair of Jones and Keegan. I need to study Trente Jones more. They both look the part.

On this next bag drill, this is the one that a year ago everyone kept getting wrong and the Eagles O-line coach got all hot and heavy about it. Gottlieb Ayedze did his rep really well — good feet, nice punch, an excellent slide. Tanor Bortolini did so well too — he’s having a very impressive combine and showing off all the kind of traits you want in a modern, athletic center. Zach Frazier is clearly not 100% but he’s muscling through his drills like a champ.

A lot of the kicks on these reps are too shallow. The O-liners are rushing through the final stage and just need to chill, be patient and complete the rep. Trente Jones, unsurprisingly, did it very well.

Fuaga — sensational rep on the left tackle version of the pass rush drop. Ticking every box as he goes through his session. People keep harping on about Joe Alt and Olu Fashanu. Group think. Fuaga, Mims — they are the top two for me.

I didn’t like Joe Alt’s mirror drill. No real depth to his kicks. Just extremely ‘meh’ from Alt today. Cooper Beebe had a much better rep, as did Tanor Botolini — who is one of the big winners today. He has fantastic physical potential based on what we’re seeing today.

Fautanu had a good rep, seemed very much in control. Didn’t klick his heels, very balanced, made it look easy. Impressive.

Gottlieb Ayedze is someone I really need to study, I think he’s had an impressive on-field session.

The first O-line group have now concluded their workouts.

Offensive line forty’s (group 2)

10 yard splits in brackets

Jarrett Kingston — 5.02 (1.73) & 5.03 (1.73)
Brady Latham — 5.32 (1.84) & 5.32 (1.80)
Matt Lee — 5.05 (1.82) & 5.04 (1.76)
KT Leveston — 5.40 (1.88) & 5.38 (1.85)
Beaux Limmer — 5.22 (1.75) & DNR
Christian Mahogany — 5.14 (1.74) & 5.15 (1.76)
Mason McCormick — 5.15 (1.75) & 5.08 (1.71)
Dylan McMahon — 5.10 (1.77) & 5.11 (1.75)
Amarius Mims — 5.07 (1.78) & DNF
Jacob Monk — 5.09 (1.74) & 5.12 (1.76)
Jordan Morgan — 5.05 (1.70) & 5.07 (1.70)
Drake Nugent — 5.23 (1.83) & 5.32 (1.86)
Patrick Paul — 5.14 (1.77) & 5.24 (1.84)
Prince Pines — 5.34 (1.82) & DNF
Dominick Puni — 5.48 (1.86) & 5.36 (1.86)
Andrew Raym — 5.42 (1.94) & DNF
Roger Rosengarten — 4.92 (1.73) & DNR
Kingsley Suamataia — 5.06 (1.74) & 5.04 (1.74)
Nathan Thomas — 5.20 (1.76) & 5.21 (1.78)
Sedrick Van Pran — 5.20 (1.77) & 5.23 (1.77)
Caedan Wallace — 5.22 (1.77) & 5.16 (1.74)

Amarius Mims pulled up during his second forty yard dash. Prince Piles also pulled up and had an ugly fall after running his second attempt. Then Andrew Raym had an injury. What’s going on?

Offensive line broad jumps (Group 2)

Mason McCormick: 9’9″
Caedan Wallace: 9’8″
Dylan McMahon: 9’7″
Roger Rosengarten: 9’5″
Layden Robinson: 9’3″
Amarius Mims: 9’3″
Matt Lee: 9’3″
Jordan Morgan: 9’2″
Beaux Limmer: 9’2″
Brady Latham: 9’2″
Kingsley Suamataia: 9’2″
Charles Turner III: 9’1″
Christian Mahogany: 9’1″
Jacob Mon: 9’0″
KT Leveston: 9’0″
Dominick Puni: 8’11”
Nathan Thomas: 8’11”
Jackson Powers-Johnson: 8’8″
Sataoa Laumea: 8’8″
Drake Nugent: 8’5″
Andrew Raym: 7’11”

Offensive line vertical jumps (Group 2)

Beaux Limmer: 36.5
Mason McCormick: 35.5
Dylan McMahon: 33
Christian Mahogany: 32.5
Jackson Powers-Johnson: 32
Jarrett Kingston: 31.5
Charles Turner III: 31
Caedan Wallace: 31
Matt Lee: 31
Roger Rosengarten: 30
Dominick Puni: 30
Prince Pines: 30
Drake Nugent: 29.5
Jacob Monk: 29.5
Patrick Paul: 29
Brady Latham: 29
Kingsley Suamataia: 28
Jordan Morgan: 28
KT Leveston: 27.5
Layden Robinson: 26.5
Sataoa Laumea: 26
Amarius Mims: 25.5
Nathan Thomas: 25
Andrew Raym: 24.5

O-line Group 2 on-field drills

JC Latham didn’t run a forty but he looks fantastic in terms of his massive, well proportioned frame. Beaux Limmer had a fantastic wave drill — very easy change of direction, fluid mover, another player who looks the part of a modern center. Dylan McMahon also had a really good rep.

Jackson Powers-Johnson also didn’t run a forty. I thought his wave was a struggle at times — his feet got caught underneath him and he stumbled. He isn’t a mobile center — he’s very bulky and built like a big block.

Roger Rosengarten moved very quickly through the wave but he was bending his waist and didn’t show natural bend.

Charles Turner had a really good wave drill — the LSU center. He got a roar of approval from the coaches.

If Tanor Bortolini was an impressive performer at center from the first group, Beaux Limmer is really standing out here. A great athlete, explosive off the snap, very quick and decisive with his movements.

Rosengarten has a shape to him I didn’t expect. He’s mid-heavy if that makes sense. Not a big base or substantial upper body. Sedrick Van Pran isn’t the most athletic but he just looks like a dude.

I liked watching Jarrett Kingston on tape and I think as someone with some guard/tackle flexibility he’d be a really useful option. Dylan McMahon, like Limmer and Bortolini, just looks the part of a center Seattle’s/Washington’s/Baltimore’s scheme has bee using.

There are a lot of positives for Jackson Powers-Johnson but this isn’t his setting. He’s extremely big and lacks mobility. He looks pretty scheme-specific. Sedric Van Pran, another bigger guy, just has a better proportional frame and is handling the drills a lot better.

On the pass rush drop, Dylan McMahon had a really good rep — dropping in the proper way with a decent punch. This was Jackson Powers-Johnson’s best drill of the session so far but he still looks almost ‘too’ bulky.

Too many of the players in this drill again are not kicking out and providing the right kind of depth in their drops. This second group has been less impressive as the first one.

Miami center Matt Lee had a really good rep when they switched to the left side. JC Latham’s was fairly good — but you can’t stop looking at his amazing frame. It’s so impressive. McMahon’s second rep was as good as his first — he’s had a great session.

Jarrett Kingston, JC Latham, Sataoa Laumea and Dylan McMahon did well in the mirror’s the NFL Network actually showed, before cutting off for a commercial break and then a few minutes of absolute waffle from Charles Davies.

I think that’s it. I think they basically went to a commercial, we missed the end of the session, and that’s your lot. Awful.

Let’s end the live blog here. Another year of feeling like my ears want to run away from my head listening to the combine coverage. Live stream shortly, O-line (and combine/Seahawks) review coming up.

Combine day three recap: Michael Penix Jr shines, receivers run fast & my thoughts on J.J. McCarthy

Michael Penix Jr and Spencer Rattler show off their arms

In terms of pure arm talent, it was always expected that these two would perform the best during on-field throwing drills today. They didn’t disappoint. However, it wasn’t just the pure power that made for two successful throwing sessions.

Anticipation is critical at the next level and teams want to see evidence of it, even when you’re throwing in this setting. It was noticeable how often Penix Jr and Rattler would throw their passes before the receiver’s break — putting it on the money and allowing them to catch in stride.

The accuracy of their throws was top notch aside from the slightly trickier fade session at the end — with the ball consistently firing out of their hands with good velocity. This was a big difference to Bo Nix, for example, who just seemed to play well within himself. Nix also struggled with anticipation, releasing the ball only when he could see the whites of the eyes of each target.

Penix Jr really flashed on the deep-ball throws at the end, flicking his wrist to deliver passes 60-65 yards downfield with touch. He made it look effortless, in a way only really Joe Milton could match.

I still think Penix Jr is a really difficult projection in terms of working out where he might be taken. On the one hand, you have this elite arm that can drive layered passes into the most improbable of windows. You can take 20 throws from last season alone and hold it up against any of the elite NFL quarterbacks and what they put on tape in college. He elevated Washington to new heights and delivered critical, big-time wins against Oregon (three times) and Texas.

On the other hand, there are some legit question marks about his ability to extend plays and get out of the pocket, whether he can be patient and take what a defense offers rather than needing to rely on the explosive play and while Ian Rapoport is reporting the medical checks produced good news — we don’t know how individual teams will asses the results. He also had a stretch during the 2023 season where he didn’t play with any consistency — watching his completion percentage sink in the process.

Look at what Jeff Howe said about Penix Jr after consulting with team sources at the combine:

The performance in the loss in the national championship game highlighted teams’ greatest concerns with Penix. While under constant pressure from Michigan’s pass rush, Penix’s mechanics and accuracy were a major issue, and he took a beating that clearly impacted his game. That element, because of Penix’s injury history (two torn ACLs, two season-ending shoulder injuries), really worried teams.

On the positive side, Penix has a great arm, throws a good deep ball, largely played very well in clutch situations and is believed to be a strong leader. If he can buck the injury history and improve the mechanical breakdowns while under duress, evaluators believe he can develop into a starter.

Penix’s draft stock is a matter of which qualities teams will prioritize. The belief is he’ll be a fringe second/third-rounder.

Whoever takes him will be excited. You can’t help but love the arm and it’s a difference making ability he possesses. It’s special. I also understand the concerns. It’s why it’s really difficult to get a read on how early — or late — he’ll be taken. What I would say, though, is if the Seahawks take him at any point, you won’t hear any complaints from me.

As for Rattler, I think it’s strange how little attention he gets. Even during the broadcast today, it felt like Kedon Slovis — who was distinctly average — was getting more praise. He has a high level of natural talent, he has a really good arm and he’s the one player in this class who played in a pro-style offense in a pro-style setting (facing regular pressure behind a horrendous O-line).

There’s a lot to like about Rattler and while he has to answer questions about what went wrong at Oklahoma (plus he’ll be asked about the immaturity issues he showed during that period) — in the right setting I think he can succeed and start in the NFL.

I’m not sure the Seahawks will draft him. They’ve placed such an enormous focus on character since 2022 that I think when they do draft a quarterback, it’ll likely be someone who is somewhat flawless in this regard. I hate to say it but the best landing spot for Rattler is probably the LA Rams. Sit behind Matt Stafford, be coached by Sean McVay. The scheme would suit him. It’s a great fit, potentially in round two.

I have things to say about J.J. McCarthy

When I watched his throwing session, it was exactly as expected. There’s nothing physically spectacular about McCarthy. He’s a good athlete, he doesn’t have a bad arm. It’s just not great. A few too many passes early on were inaccurate, the deep-balls were fairly unimpressive but there were also some good throws too.

My immediate reaction after he threw was to again question why there’s so much hype about him, with the latest talk even being that he could be part of a four-quarterback run to start the draft.

And then it hit me.

The NFL Network had him in the booth with Rich Eisen and Daniel Jeremiah for an interview. I was blown away by McCarthy’s charisma, confidence, maturity and manner. He just has ‘it’. I bet that sounds ridiculous to some of you, how can you change an opinion based on that? It’s hard to explain, but I have. I’ve never done it before. If you also watched it, you probably felt the same.

I guarantee McCarthy has gone into those meetings at the combine and blown everyone away. I bet when scouts visited Michigan’s facility over the last two years, they were wowed. I bet when owners get in a room with him — they will want this guy at the forefront of their franchise.

After the interview, McCarthy stuck around for the second throwing session. When Xavier Worthy ran his record-breaking 4.21 — he was one of the first to sprint over and congratulate him, despite not even being part of the group. It was all so natural, too. Worthy embraced him like a close friend, not two individuals who played for different teams at opposite ends of the country. He was just giving off a vibe that he was ‘the guy’. Not because he was trying to make it so, it was just naturally happening in this setting.

There is an intangible quality to McCarthy which shouldn’t be underestimated. Then you start stacking aspects up. Statistically he is the top QB in this class on third downs and completion percentage when scrambling. He just won the National Championship as the captain and leader of the offense. He’s been well coached at a serious program. He’s athletic.

The throwing sessions are hard to follow because the NFL Network does a bunch of interviews, they chit-chat about everything and anything but the workouts and there are a ton of commercials. When they cut some replays together to play out during McCarthy’s interview, I took the chance to check his technique. Footwork? Flawless. Throwing motion? Very good.

Imagine you’re a team needing a quarterback. You’ve got this guy who, even at 21, is going to walk into your building and probably just make everyone love him on day one. He has a history of success in college. He’ll be one of the guys but quickly establish a leadership position. You won’t need to spend forever fixing his technique and when he gets on the field, you’ll back him to win key moments on third down and on the move.

I’m telling you now — if a team is prepared to pay Kirk Cousins $40m a year next week coming off an achilles injury, someone is going to take a chance on this guy very early in round one. Maybe even top-five. They will believe in him as a person and they’ll believe as a player he’ll produce a base-line performance that, as a worst case scenario, they can live with.

He isn’t Tom Brady as a player, not even stylistically. Nobody ever will be Brady. But you know what? Watching how he carried himself today, there were Brady vibes. Some team is going to convince themselves of that and fall in love.

His ceiling, physically, will have some limitations. He isn’t a Mahomes, Allen, Herbert or Stroud type. He’ll need a supporting cast to really succeed at a high level, as he did at Michigan. But having him will be better than not having him for some teams picking near the top of round one. I do think there’s a chance someone takes him before Drake Maye. I do think someone could trade up for him. I do think a lot of teams are going to leave Indianapolis on a plane tomorrow night and they’re going to want this guy in their building.

And I do think the Seahawks could be one of them.

Bo Nix didn’t impress

As noted earlier, he just played within himself. He never let it rip — his throws all felt really safe and his workout lacked any kind of dynamism. The deep balls weren’t impressive, the anticipation wasn’t there and you just ended up wanting more. I thought this was a round three pick performance — but his production at Oregon, personality and the importance of the position likely means round two. It’s hard to get excited about what he showed here.

This is a fantastic receiver class

We all knew it was a real position of strength going into the combine — but so many players elevated their already high stock in Indianapolis. I suspect by the time I’ve done some tape review post-combine, I’ll have 18 receivers with a second round grade or higher.

Xavier Worthy breaking the combine forty-yard-dash record was an electrifying moment and one of the all-time great combine spectacles. His lap of honour after running a 4.21 was joyous. I need to go back and re-watch Worthy and Texas team mate Adonai Mitchell, who also ran an excellent 4.34.

Jacob Cowing was a big blog favourite pre-Senior Bowl but I thought he underwhelmed in Mobile. However, here he ran a 4.38 and showed excellent catching technique. He’s adept at separating and I was probably too reactive to the Senior Bowl workouts in dropping him down the board.

Keon Coleman ran one of the slower forty’s (4.61) but I thought he really impressed during drills. He lacks speed but shows great body control and ball-tracking.

Ladd McConkey running a 4.39 could elevate him into the first round conversation, Ricky Pearsall had an unreal testing session and I need to consider bumping his grade up. Across the board so many players ran well — which has always been a big thing for the Seahawks at this position.

This is such a deep class I wonder if it’ll re-set the receiver market in free agency? Ever since Christian Kirk’s record breaking deal two years ago, the price of receivers has exploded. The Justin Jefferson’s of this world will still get mega paydays, obviously. With so much cheap talent in this draft class, though, you have to wonder if teams will be less inclined to throw money at the position for older players in 10 days time.

If there was one player who I thought underwhelmed a bit at receiver it was Troy Franklin. Given how fast others ran, a 4.41 forty with his frame was a bit disappointing. Plus his on-field drills were sloppy including a really poor gauntlet.

A final word on the receivers — I love how determined Rome Odunze was to run a 6.6 in the three cone (see below). Everything about Odunze is absolutely first class. I agree with the people suggesting some teams might view him as WR1. He is en elite person as well as a sensational football player.

Thoughts on the running back class

There are no obvious ‘stars’ or high picks among this group — but I think they did fairly well during drills and if nothing else, a few players pass the eye test.

Blake Corum looked absolutely stacked and moved well with it. I don’t want to go too over the top with this kind of thing after my J.J. McCarthy notes — but Corum does just give off a star vibe. I’m sure he’ll do a great job for Jim Harbaugh and Greg Roman in LA as a second or third round selection.

I’m really eager to watch Isaac Guerendo and Jaylen Wright — two well-sized top-testers who I haven’t studied on tape. Guerendo ran a 4.33 at 6-0 and 221lbs, while Wright managed a 4.38 at 5-10 and 210lbs. You can’t ignore that combination of size and speed.

Ray Davis was a lot of fun to watch at Kentucky, he had a good Senior Bowl and while he wasn’t a great mover during drills — he looked physical, tough and kind of led the group during the session.

Trey Benson looks like a smooth athlete, he ran a blistering 4.39 forty at 6-0 and 216lbs and he just looks the part. He got around the bags well, he showed subtle movement when changing direction and I’ll definitely be going back to review his tape.

Audric Estime was the big disappoint, only running a 4.71. I think he’s a talented, athletic runner but this time won’t help his stock. He might provide value to someone if he falls a bit.

You would hope the Seahawks are done drafting running backs at this stage — but there are a few players to admire here, even if it’s not a highly touted class.

If you missed the day three review stream, check it out below. You’ll enjoy the discussion!

Live blog: Combine day three (QB, WR, RB)

Welcome to the 2024 NFL combine coverage on Seahawks Draft Blog

Throughout the next few days I’ll be reacting live to everything happening in Indianapolis. I will also post a daily recap article and a daily live stream.

On top of that, Robbie Williams is attending the combine and will provide insight from his perspective inside Lucas Oil Field.

Keep refreshing this page for updates

The workouts begin today at 1pm ET (10am PT).

Running back forty yard dash times

Emani Bailey — 4.67 & 4.61
Trey Benson — 4.39 & DNR
Blake Corum — 4.53 & 4.58
Isaiah Davis — 4.59 & 4.58
Ray Davis — 4.53 & 4.58
Audric Estime — 4.72 & 4.72
Isaac Guerendo — 4.33 & DNR
George Holani — 4.52 & 4.53
Bucky Irving — 4.56 & 4.58
Dillon Johnson — 4.68 & 4.76
Jawhar Jordan — 4.56 & 4.60
Dylan Laube — 4.57 & 4.54
MarShawn Lloyd — 4.46 & DNR
Kendall Milton — 4.62 & 4.66
Keilan Robinson — 4.42 & 4.43
Cody Schrader — 4.61 & 4.69
Jaden Shirden — 4.46 & 4.46
Tyrone Tracy Jr — 4.49 & 4.51
Kimani Vidal — 4.47 & 4.46
Michael Wiley — 4.56 & 4.52
Jaylen Wright — 4.44 & 4.38

Having arrived home from work and come straight into the combine stuff, I’m going to grab something to eat while watching drills for the running backs. I’m not going to post live notes on these workouts as a consequence but will do for the quarterbacks and receivers.

Of course, there’s not anything to actually review because once again the NFL Network is messing around instead of analysing drills. Joey Mulinaro doing impressions? This event, and the coverage of it, is totally different these days for all the wrong reasons.

Wide receiver broad jumps

Adonai Mitchell: 11’4″
Jermaine Burton: 11’1″
Ryan Flournoy: 11’0″
Anthony Gould: 10’9″
Jalen Coker: 10’8″
Keon Coleman: 10’7″
Cornelius Johnson: 10’7″
Jalen McMillan: 10’7″
Xavier Legette: 10’6″
Troy Franklin: 10’4″
Ladd McConkey: 10’4″
Lideatrick Griffin: 10’4″
Bub Means: 10’2″
Luke McCaffrey: 10’1″
Javon Baker: 10’1″
Jacob Cowing: 9’11”
Jha’Quan Jackson: 9’10”

Wide receiver vertical jumps

Jalen Coker: 42.5
Xavier Legette: 40
Bub Means: 39.5
Adonai Mitchell: 39.5
Anthony Gould: 39.5
Ryan Flournoy: 39.5
Troy Franklin: 39
Jermaine Burton: 38.5
Keon Coleman: 38
Cornelius Johnson: 37.5
Jalen McMillan: 37
Javon Baker: 37
Jacob Cowing: 36
Luke McCaffrey: 36
Ladd McConkey: 36
Lideatrick Griffin: 35.5
Jha’Quan Jackson: 32

Running back broad jumps

Jaylen Wright: 11’2″
Isaac Guerendo: 10’9″
George Holani: 10’7″
Audric Estimé: 10’5″
Keilan Robinson: 10’5″
Tyrone Tracy Jr.: 10’4″
Kendall Milton: 10’4″
Trey Benson: 10’2″
Kimani Vidal: 10’0″
Isaiah Davis: 9’11”
Ray Davis: 9’11”
Michael Wiley: 9’11”
MarShawn Lloyd: 9’10”
Dylan Laube: 9’10”
Braelon Allen: 9’9″
Dillon Johnson: 9’9″
Jaden Shirden: 9’9″
Emani Bailey: 9’8″
Bucky Irving” 9’7″
Daijun Edwards: 9’6″

Running back vertical jumps

Isaac Guerendo: 41.5
Tyrone Tracy Jr.: 40
George Holani: 39
Jaylen Wright: 38
Audric Estimé: 38
Kimani Vidal: 37.5
Dylan Laube: 37
MarShawn Lloyd: 36
Kendall Milton: 35.5
Blake Corum: 35.5
Ray Davis: 35
Jaden Shirden: 34.5
Isaiah Davis: 34.5
Emani Bailey: 33.5
Trey Benson: 33.5
Michael Wiley: 33.5
Keilan Robinson: 33
Cody Schrader: 33
Braelon Allen: 32
Dillon Johnson: 31.5
Bucky Irving: 29.5

Quarterback forty times (Group 1)

Only Sam Hartman is running a forty yard dash among the first group of QB’s. J.J. McCarthy is not running.

Sam Hartman — 4.80 & 4.82

Fair play to Hartman, he’s doing everything — runs, jumps. I like his personality and his hair. He’s an easy guy to root for.

Wide receiver forty times (Group 1)

Javon Baker — 4.54 & 4.55
Jermaine Burton — 4.46 & 4.48
Jalen Coker — 4.58 & 4.57
Keon Coleman — 4.64 & 4.62
Jacob Cowing — 4.41 & 4.38
Ryan Flournoy — 4.44 & 4.48
Troy Franklin — 4.41 & DNR
Anthony Gould — 4.40 & 4.41
Lideatrick Griffin — 4.45 & 4.44
Jha’Quan Jackson — 4.54 & 4.42
Cornelius Johnson — 4.45 & DNR
Xavier Legette — 4.47 & 4.39
Luke McCaffrey — 4.47 & 4.50
Ladd McConkey — 4.43 & 4.40
Jalen McMillan — 4.49 & 4.48
Bub Means — 4.49 & 4.43
Adonai Mitchell — 4.35 & DNR

On field drills for QB’s and WR’s in Group 1

I really liked Jacob Cowing on tape and dropped him a round after an underwhelming Senior Bowl and concern about how small he is. However, he looks sharp out on the field today — running a 4.38 and showing good catching technique on the gauntlet. He’s a very polished, reliable player who gets open and here he’s showing a great ability to catch the ball away from his body.

Ladd McConkey looks great. He could sneak into the back end of round one after running a 4.40. He just looks like he has a bit of class to him. Adonai Mitchell, who ran a great 4.35, tripped on his gauntlet. Troy Frankin’s rep was all over the place.

Here’s McConkey’s gauntlet:

Last year, with CJ Stroud, Will Levis and Anthony Richardson throwing, we saw real velocity on passes. My initial thoughts watching JJ McCarthy and Bo Nix is there’s a noticeable difference. And that’s fine — it’s not what they are. But Daniel Jeremiah saying McCarthy has a live arm and ‘needs to take something off his passes’ just doesn’t resonate for me.

Keon Coleman really impressed in the gauntlet drill:

I wish Bo Nix would let it rip. It’s all very safe from him at the moment. Joe Milton isn’t even throwing with accuracy with no defenders on the field. I don’t see him as a NFL quarterback and I’m surprised how many people seem to view him as a mid-round flier.

McCarthy has been off with his placement a couple of times. Unlike Nix, I think he’s trying to arm things out. Overall, and we’re not onto the deep-range throws yet, there’s not been much to get excited about.

The NFL Network is overhyping an uneventful workout from Devin Leary. McCarthy continues to have at least one pass on every set of throws that is off-target.

I don’t think the quarterbacks are throwing with enough anticipation on these throws. They’re waiting until the receivers turn their heads, rather than putting it into a spot for them to run through. There’s been little to get excited about here. Let’s get to the deeper throws.

Nobody is owning this session and saying, I’m the alpha here. Watch this.

Devin Leary’s deep-balls hung in the air too much. McCarthy threw two deep where he kind of just put everything into it and it was way off target. The third gave the receiver a chance but he had to slow down right at the end to allow the pass to catch him up. Joe Milton’s final deep ball was a cannon. Nix’s first deep throw was a good one, the second was awful and a bit of a duck and the third just fluttered downfield and was off target. I’m ready to see Penix do this. Milton had an extra go at the end and he just launched it downfield for about 65-70 yards.

The first session underwhelmed. Milton’s deep-throws were fun. I thought Nix struggled and failed to shine in any way. McCarthy was pretty hit and miss. I’m not sure why the NFL Network got so excited about Devin Leary and Sam Hartman, bless him, doesn’t look like he has NFL quarterback traits. It was a far cry from the gun show we saw 12 months ago.

NFL Network now saying McCarthy had ‘an outstanding day’ and that Nix had a ‘good day’. at this stage, critical thinking is gone from the broadcast. It’s just fluff. Everyone is doing well, apparently. This isn’t analysis. This is just being nice for the sake of it.

I’ll write about this more in the review piece — but this interview with McCarthy is a key reason why teams will like him. He is incredibly level-headed, charismatic and likeable. You can imagine him leading a team. His footwork was very good in the throwing session, his mechanics are sound. There is a base level with McCarthy that is reassuring and teams will buy in thinking the worst case with him is still decent. I’m just not sure he has a great ceiling.

I’m extremely bored of the relentless Michigan talk, though.

Wide receiver broad jumps (second group)

Tez Walker: 11’2″
Xavier Worthy: 10’11”
Ja’Lynn Polk: 10’9″
Ricky Pearsall: 10’9″
Johnny Wilson: 10’8″
Malik Washington: 10’6″
Devaughn Vele: 10’6″
Brian Thomas Jr.: 10’6″
Rome Odunze: 10’4″
Isaiah Williams: 10’3″
Tahj Washington: 10’2″
Jamari Thrash: 10’0″
Marcus Rosemy-Jacksaint: 9’11”
Brenden Rice: 9’11”

Wide receiver vertical jumps (second group)

Malik Washington: 42.5
Ricky Pearsall: 42
Xavier Worthy: 41
Tez Walker: 40.5
Rome Odunze: 39
Brian Thomas Jr.: 38.5
Isaiah Williams: 38
Ja’Lynn Polk: 37.5
Johnny Wilson: 37
Brenden Rice: 36.5
Devaughn Vele: 36
Marcus Rosemy-Jacksaint: 35
Tahj Washington: 35
Jamari Thrash: 34

Quarterback broad jumps

Joe Milton III: 10’1″
Michael Pratt: 9’6″
Spencer Rattler: 9’0″

Quarterback vertical jumps

Kedon Slovis: 39
Joe Milton III: 35
Michael Pratt: 36
Spencer Rattler: 32
Sam Hartman: 28.5

Quarterbrack forty times (Group 2)

Spencer Rattler — 4.96 & 4.97
Austin Reed — 4.83 & 4.87
Kedon Slovis — 4.60 & 4.56

Michael Penix Jr did not run a forty or do the jumps. Kedon Slovis with a 39 inch vertical and a 4.56 forty — who knew?

Wide receiver forty times (Group 2)

Rome Odunze — 4.47 & 4.45
Ricky Pearsall — 4.41 & 4.42
Ja’Lynn Polk — 4.53 & 4.52
Brenden Rice — 4.51 & 4.50
Brian Thomas Jr — 4.34 & DNR
Jamari Thrash — 4.46 & 4.48
Devaughn Vele — 4.54 & 4.48
Tez Walker — 4.36 & 4.41
Malik Washington — 4.47 & 4.52
Isaiah Williams — 4.64 & 4.64
Johnny Wilson — 4.53 & 4.58
Roman Wilson — 4.41 & 4.40
Xavier Worthy — 4.25 & 4.22

Xavier Worthy unofficially equalled John Ross’ record of a 4.22 forty. It was an electrifying moment — with the crowd exploding and Worthy taking a lap of honour with everyone rushing to congratulate him. It was a great moment — and he did it effortlessly. He came across very well when interviewed, explaining how much having the record meant to him, asking for his split and discussing how his training had prepared him for success.

I really like the catching technique from Brian Thomas Jr and Jamari Thrash on the gauntlet. Cupping their hands to the ball.

Xavier Worthy, after running his forty, isn’t doing any drills. It’s not clear why but he’s already packed up and leaving the field.

Spencer Rattler is throwing with better anticipation than the first group. One of his passes was low and forced Brenden Rice to make a nice grab. Yet the first few throws from Rattler are coming out with a lot more conviction than Bo Nix’s. Michael Penix Jr is also already showing off easy arm strength.

Xavier Worthy ran an official 4.21 which is the fastest time in combine history, beating John Ross’ 4.21. It really was a fantastic moment that will last forever — seeing Worthy run off in celebration.

Watch how Rattler is throwing before his receiver turns on the break. He is throwing with anticipation. The first group kept waiting to see the whites of the eyes of the receivers before throwing. Penix Jr is also throwing with way better anticipation — he just threw an absolute dime.

Rattler and Penix Jr are showing off their arms. They look terrific — well placed passes, great velocity, anticipation. Good start for both.

I love the Xavier Worthy story but please can we see some quarterbacks throwing?

The ball is flying out of Penix’s hand. This is the stuff. This is what you want to see. It’s absolutely night and day compared to the first group. And Rattler is going toe to toe with him — he just doesn’t quite have Penix’s arm (who does?).

Rattler’s first deep ball fluttered a bit but the second had excellent depth and trajectory, the receiver couldn’t run underneath it. Penix’s first deep throw was an absolute beauty. His second was an absolute beauty. It’s so easy. Easy arm strength. Flies downfield, with accuracy. Michael Pratt’s deep balls were not impressive.

Rattler had another go and threw a nice final deep ball. They didn’t let Penix have another go for some reason. Either way, job done. There’s absolutely no question that the two best arms, by far, unsurprisingly, belonged to Michael Penix Jr and Spencer Rattler.

Day three is in the books. I’ll be jumping on a live stream with Robbie Williams at 4:45pm PT so join us for that. Review article to come too.

Combine day two recap: Ben Sinnott and the tight ends provide some good news

This is a really intriguing (but small) tight end class

The Seahawks currently only have one contracted tight end for 2024 — and you could argue Will Dissly could/should be a cap casualty with a $10m salary. Thankfully, the tight ends at the combine showed they can come to the rescue.

Over the years we’ve talked about the fact that most of the top TE’s in the NFL tend to test well in the short shuttle and record a fast time in the 10-yard split. A shuttle in the 4.1-4.2 range is exceptional and anything faster than a 4.5 is good enough. A 1.5 split is superb. Here are some notable examples:

Rob Gronkowski — 1.58 (10), 4.47 (ss)
Travis Kelce — 1.61 (10), 4.42 (ss)
George Kittle — 1.59 (10), 4.55 (ss)
Mark Andrews — 1.54 (10), 4.38 (ss)
T.J. Hockenson — 1.63 (10), 4.18 (ss)
Sam LaPorta — 1.59 (10), 4.25 (ss)
David Njoku — 1.61 (10), 4.34 (ss)

From this select group the average 10-split is a 1.59 and the average short shuttle a 4.37.

Further to this, we’ve identified that in the Carroll/Schneider era, a lot of focus was placed on agility testing (short shuttle & three cone) at the tight end position:

Luke Willson — 4.29 (ss), 7.08 (3c)
Will Dissly — 4.40 (ss), 7.07 (3c)
Nick Vannett — 4.20 (ss), 7.05 (3c)
Anthony McCoy — 4.57 (ss), 6.99 (3c)
Zach Miller — 4.42 (ss), 7.01 (3c)
Jimmy Graham — 4.45 (ss), 6.90 (3c)
Greg Olsen — 4.48 (ss), 7.04 (3c)
Colby Parkinson — 4.46 (ss), 7.15 (3c)
Gerald Everett — 4.33 (ss), 6.99 (3c)
Noah Fant — 4.22 (ss), 6.81 (3c)

That’s an average short shuttle of 4.38 and an average three cone of 7.00.

Here’s the 2024 class of tight ends:

Theo Johnson — 1.55 (10), 4.19 (ss), 7.15 (3c)
Devin Culp — 1.55 (10)
Tip Reiman — 1.55 (10), 4.26 (ss), 7.02 (3c)
Jaheim Bell — 1.58 (10)
Tanner McLachlan — 1.58 (10)
Ben Sinnott — 1.59 (10), 4.23 (ss), 6.82 (3c)
Ja’Tavion Sanders — 1.59 (10), 4.32 (ss)
Cade Stover — 1.59 (10), 4.45 (ss)
Jared Wiley — 1.62 (10), 7.19 (3c)
Dallin Holker — 1.66 (10), 4.21 (ss), 6.83 (3c)
Brevyn Spann-Ford — 1.67 (10), 7.38 (3c)

From these results, I’d suggest Theo Johnson, Ben Sinnott, Tip Reiman, Ja’Tavion Sanders and Cade Stover are all very intriguing — while several others who didn’t complete all the tests — such as Jaheim Bell and Tanner McLachlan, could easily get into the mix in terms of comparing physically to the league’s best.

It might not seem like an extensive list — but consider that a year ago, in a seemingly high quality tight end class, only five tight ends (including star rookie Sam LaPorta) tested in this range. We now have a legit five already, with the potential for more in a supposed down year at tight end.

There was one clear star of the day and that was Kansas State’s Ben Sinnott. He was one of the more fun players to watch last season but there wasn’t a huge expectation that he would produce a combine performance where, like Braden Fiske a day earlier, he would be on a different level to everyone else. He produced a complete performance — testing brilliantly to start and during drills he was sharp into his breaks, he maintained speed throughout his routes, he tracked the ball well and showed consistently strong hands. He attacked every rep and the best word to describe him was ‘dynamic’.

He also produced an outstanding 40 inch vertical and a 10-6 broad (both the best measurements of the group). Theo Johnson was second in both categories (39.5 vertical, 10-5 broad). Based on what we saw today, I think they both deserve second round grades. Johnson also had an excellent combine.

Look how Sinnott compares to LaPorta:

Sam LaPorta
Height: 6-3
Weight: 245
40: 4.59
10: 1.59
Vertical: 35
Broad: 10-3
Shuttle: 4.25
3c: 6.91

Ben Sinnott
Height: 6-4
Weight: 250
40: 4.68
10: 1.59
Vertical: 40
Broad: 10-6
Shuttle: 4.23
3c: 6.82

Brock Bowers, the biggest name tight end in the draft, didn’t workout or test.

A so-so day for the defensive backs

The cornerback drills always go on too long, with too many coaches being indulged — each wanting to run their own variation of basically the same handful of drills. There were a few standout performances but it didn’t feel like there was a top-10 pick among the group.

I thought Kamari Lassiter was the big winner. He didn’t run a forty or do the jumps but a 6.62 three cone is a blistering time. Jaxon Smith-Njigba basically covered his lack of pure speed with a 6.57 three cone a year ago. Lassiter could equally propel himself into top-20 contention with that fantastic testing result.

It wasn’t just a great three cone though — he also excelled during drills, looking smooth throughout and he passes the eye test with his frame. He was always likely to go in the top-35, now it’s just a case of how high will he move up board?

Kalen King had a rough Senior Bowl and running a 4.61 forty didn’t help. However, I thought he performed well during drills — appearing to be very controlled and natural with his movements and you could see there’s a player in there. If he’s destined to fall into day three because of an under-performing pre-draft process, he could provide real value. On this evidence, he just needs coaching up.

Unsurprisingly Terrion Arnold looked the part and confirmed he’ll likely be a first round selection with his on-field workout. Jarvis Brownlee Jr. has good size and movement skills — I liked his transition and ability to cover ground quickly. I want to watch more of Daequan Hardy and Marcellas Dial after their performances today.

The other three names I want to mention are Texas’ Ryan Watts — who outperformed expectations with his testing. He had the second best three cone (6.82) and a decent 4.13 short shuttle. Watts also jumped a 40.5 inch vertical. Most impressive, though, are his obscene 34.5 inch arms on a 6-3 and 208lbs frame. You can work with this guy. I liked him on tape and have long thought he was a day-three sleeper. Mike Sainristil was someone I really liked on tape review pre-combine and he had a good workout, plus plenty of praise on air for his character. I’m hoping to get a chance to interview him before the draft. Finally, after an underwhelming 2023 season, I thought TCU’s Josh Newton had a good on-field performance.

The safeties lacked star power — at one point the NFL Network showed highlights of Minkah Fitzpatrick’s combine and it just highlighted there was nobody like him testing today. Still, the group did well catching the football during drills — high-pointing far more consistently than the cornerbacks and looking pretty similar during the transition drills.

Tyler Nubin didn’t run a forty but looked solid enough moving around the field. I can well imagine him fitting in Mike Macdonald’s defense but think he’ll be taken in the #50-65 range. Dadrion Taylor-Demerson ran a blistering 4.41. I loved his tape but had no idea he tested this well — I’ll go back and review him to see how high I need to bump him up.

Dominique Hampton from Washington looked like a dude and tested well, running a 4.14 short shuttle, a 6.83 three cone and jumping a 39 inch vertical. He ran a 4.51 which is more than acceptable.

I reached out to a source at UW to ask about Hampton, who I haven’t fully studied but will do after the combine, and I got this reply:

“Freak of nature, smart, consistent and he’s a great dude. Quiet killer. Our defense scheme funneled the vast majority of plays to the strong safety by design and he was good enough in that key position for us to go to a Championship”

Sounds to me like the kind of guy that fits in Macdonald’s defense. In particular, I like the idea of a ‘quiet killer’ at safety rather than a ‘noisy peacock’.

Malik Mustapha didn’t workout which was a shame although I thought Jaden Hicks and Kitan Oladapo both showed well enough to remain intriguing. I still remain unconvinced by Kam Kinchens, who I’ve given a fourth round grade.

I think this is a position where you can find cheap, contributing value in the mid-to-late rounds. That’s what you need to look for in the modern NFL at safety — at a time when the entire league is treating the position, financially, like it’s the running back of the defense.

Other notes

I thought Drake Maye and Bo Nix both gave excellent interviews during their media sessions. Reports said Maye in particular wowed teams with an alpha personality — but I think both quarterbacks will have their admirers and carry A+ character marks. Maye just screams ‘John Schneider style quarterback’ for what it’s worth.

Ian Rapoport reported positive news on Michael Penix Jr’s injury outlook but it all felt very agent-led. Hopefully he’s right and all concerns have been quelled.

Tony Pauline, however, reported bad news on the medical checks of Payton Wilson and yesterday’s standout Braden Fiske.

Diani Russini said on the Athletic football podcast that she’d heard from one source that the top four picks could all be quarterbacks — with presumably the Cardinals trading down.

Finally, I found this clip interesting. JJ McCarthy was asked on CBS which three receivers he’d like to throw to most in the NFL. His first answer was Jaxon Smith-Njigba:

Of all the players he could’ve said — Justin Jefferson, Tyreek Hill, Ja’Marr Chase, Ceedee Lamb, Mike Evans — or from the Seahawks, DK Metcalf — he went with Smith-Njigba, a former Ohio State receiver.

Granted, he refers to a 2021 game where JSN led Ohio State in receiving yards in a loss to Michigan. It was still a curious choice — either speaking to how much respect Smith-Njigba commands (while hinting that the Seahawks have a real player on their hands) or could it be, possibly, his way of sending a ‘come and get me’ plea?

After all, what if McCarthy enjoyed the ‘Harbaugh way’ so much at Michigan, he sees this as his best chance to get back to it? John has Lamar Jackson and Jim now has Justin Herbert. Working for Mike Macdonald, the former Michigan DC, could be McCarthy’s best chance to ‘get back in the system’. The pair know each other. It’s an interesting thought.

If you missed my day-two recap stream, you can watch it here:

Live Blog: Combine day two (Defensive backs & tight ends)

Welcome to the 2024 NFL combine coverage on Seahawks Draft Blog

Throughout the next few days I’ll be reacting live to everything happening in Indianapolis. I will also post a daily recap article and a daily live stream.

On top of that, Robbie Williams is attending the combine and will provide insight from his perspective inside Lucas Oil Field.

Keep refreshing this page for updates

The workouts begin today at 3pm ET (12pm PT).

Introductory notes

Today is probably my least favourite day of the combine. Every year, the NFL allows too many DB coaches onto the field. They all want to do their own individual drills, many of which are just variations of the backpedal and transition or the ‘W”. The day drags like crazy and in the past, the DB sessions have gone on way too long. With the new addition of the tight ends to this day, it could be a slog.

If you missed it earlier, I posted a video discussing the possibility of the Seahawks trading up for a quarterback. Check it out here. You can also check out my day one combine review here.

If you want to see measurement info for the DB’s and tight ends, click here.

One of my favourite players among the DB’s — cornerback TJ Tampa — has 32 1/8 inch arms. That’s good length for him at 6-1 and 189lbs. He is seriously underrated. I’ve been higher on Ryan Watts than most and he has incredible 34.5 inch arms at 6-3 and 208lbs. Blog favourite Malik Mustapha looks good at 5-10, 209lbs. I will also be keeping a close eye on Kitan Oladapo and Tyler Nubin today at safety.

There were concerns about Brock Bowers being shorter and smaller than advertised but he quelled those concerns by measuring at 6-3 and 243lbs. There’s doubt as to whether he’ll do any testing or drills today. Cade Stover is 6-4 and 247lbs. Expect him to test better than anyone expects today. I like him a lot.

Kool-Aid McKinstry is not testing today after it emerged he had a Jones fracture that need work. Cooper DeJean isn’t working out either, as he’s still recovering from an injury suffered during the season.

40 yard dash cornerbacks

Kris Abrams-Draine — 4.44 & 4.50
Terrion Arnold — 4.51 & 4.55
Mj Devonshire — 4.45 & 4.48
Marcellas Dial — 4.47 & 4.55
Willie Drew — 4.48 & 4.47
Renardo Green — 4.54 & 4.50
Myles Harden — 4.52 & 4.51
Daequan Hardy — 4.39 & 4.39
Cam Hart — 4.50 & 4.59
Khyree Jackson — 4.50 & 4.52
DJ James — 4.43 & 4.46
Isaiah Johnson — 4.64 & 4.66
Elijah Jones — 4.45 & 4.48
Jarrian Jones — 4.38 & DNR
Kalen King — 4.61 & 4.62
Dwight McGlothern — 4.47 & DNR
Max Melton — 4.39 & 4.40
Quinyon Mitchell — 4.33 & 4.38
Josh Newton — 4.52 & 4.52
Andru Phillips — 4.48 & 4.57
Deantre Prince — 4.39 & 4.42
Nehemiah Pritchett — 4.36 & 4.38
Ennis Rakestraw Jr — 4.54 & 4.51
Decamerion Richardson — 4.34 & 4.36
Mike Sainristil — 4.47 & DNR
Chau Smith-Wade — 4.54 & 4.57
Tarheeb Still — 4.52 & 4.53
Ryan Watts — 4.53 & 4.53
Nate Wiggins — 4.29 & DNR

Nate Wiggins injured his groin running the forty and had to be helped back into the locker room. He said he felt it ‘pop’ and that ‘it was on fire’. Then he came back out and said it was a hip-flexor.

Cornerback broad jumps

Max Melton: 11’4″
Andru Phillips 11’3″
Khyree Jackson: 11’1″
Elijah Jones: 10’11”
Mike Sainristil: 10’11”
Renardo Green: 10’10”
Cam Hart: 10’10”
Isaiah Johnson: 10’9″
Jarrian Jones: 10’9″
Terrion Arnold: 10’9″
Marcellas Dial: 10’9″
Decamerion Richardson: 10’8″
Nate Wiggins: 10’7″
Daequan Hardy: 10’6″
Chau Smith-Wade: 10’5″
Deantre Prince: 10’5″
Ryan Watts: 10’5″
M.J. Devonshire: 10’4″
Kalen King: 10’2″
Quinyon Mitchell: 10’0″
Myles Harden: 9’10”
Dwight McGlothern: 9’7″

Cornerback vertical jumps

Elijah Jones: 42.5
Daequan Hardy: 42.5
Max Melton: 40.5
Marcellas Dial: 40.5
Jarrian Jones: 39.5
Cam Hart: 39.5
Isaiah Johnson: 38.5
M.J. Devonshire: 38.5
Quinyon Mitchell: 38
Renardo Green: 37.5
Kalen King: 37
Terrion Arnold: 37
Khyree Jackson: 36.5
Myles Harden: 35.5
Kris Abrams-Draine: 33.5
Dwight McGlothern: 32

Cornerback on-field drills

As is typically the case, the initial backpedal drills were not great. The transition wasn’t smooth, they often weren’t running properly down the line and several jogged. Ryan Watts, a player I’ve liked since seeing him flash in games for Texas, had the final rep and for me — it was one of the better ones.

Jarvis Brownlee Jr had a good rep on his second attempt. They’ve gone to commercials so think that’s our lot for backpedals.

We’re now watching an interview with Notre Dame Head Coach Marcus Freeman, who seems to be the latest college coach making contacts by attending the NFL combine so he can get out of the hell hole that is the NIL-era version of college football.

Brownlee looks especially smooth with his transition compared to a lot of the other cornerbacks. Very loose and comfortable. Kamari Lassiter, who didn’t run a forty, looks the part with his length and lean frame. He is moving pretty well out there. Daniel Jeremiah is getting carried away talking about Max Melton based on a good forty. He’s already bumped him up to a third and then a second. The tape didn’t show that and he’s not been that smooth in transition, at least for me.

Terrion Arnold looks good when transitioning, his ‘W’ drill was nice and precise and he’s having a good session. Jarvis Brownlee Jr has stood out to me with his frame, athleticism and twitchy movements. Josh Newton continues to have a good workout after a slightly underwhelming 2023. I’ve enjoyed every one of Ryan Watts’ workouts so far. He could be a nice day three flier.

It’s been difficult to track the workouts on the NFL Network. They did an interview with Chris Ballard, now it’s an interview with the new Michigan Head Coach and the commercials keep on coming. We’ve seen very little of the drills and received almost no serious analysis of what’s actually going on.

A Seahawks scout or coach has been among the cornerbacks throughout their on-field workouts. It looks like he might be timing the drills, maybe for the whole league.

Official 40 times for cornerbacks

Nate Wiggins — 4.28
Quinyon Mitchell — 4.33
Decamerion Richardson — 4.34
Nehemiah Pritchett — 4.36
Deantre Prince — 4.38
Jarrian Jones — 4.38
Daequan Hardy — 4.38
Max Melton — 4.39
DJ James — 4.42
Elijah Jones — 4.44

Safety broad jumps

Tyler Owens: 12’2″
Jaylin Simpson: 11’1″
Jaylen Key: 10’10”
Evan Williams: 10’6″
Jaylon Carlies: 10’5″
Sione Vaki: 10’5″
Millard Bradford: 10’4″
Cole Bishop: 10’4″
Andre’ Sam: 10’3″
Dadrion Taylor-Demerson: 10’3″
Jaden Hicks: 10’2″
Dominique Hampton: 10’2″
Josh Proctor: 10’1″
Tykee Smith: 10’0″
Kitan Oladapo: 9’9″
Daijahn Anthony: 9’9″
James Williams: 9’9″
Demani Richardson: 9’8″
Patrick McMorris: 9’4″
Kamren Kinchens: 9’2″

Safety vertical jumps

Tyler Owens: 41
Evan Williams: 40.5
Jaylin Simpson: 39.5
Sione Vaki: 39.5
Dominique Hampton: 39
Cole Bishop: 39
Millard Bradford: 38.5
Dadrion Taylor-Demerson: 38
Jaden Hicks: 37.5
Daijahn Anthony: 37
Jaylen Key: 36.5
Kitan Oladapo: 36
Tykee Smith: 36
Andre’ Sam: 36
Kamren Kinchens: 35
Josh Proctor: 32.5
Jaylon Carlies: 32.5
Demani Richardson: 31
Patrick McMorris: 31
James Williams: 30

Safety 40 yard dash times

It’s worth remembering that none of Baltimore’s safeties under Mike Macdonald ran particularly fast times.

Daijahn Anthony — 4.56 & 4.58
Cole Bishop — 4.45 & 4.49
Millard Bradford — 4.47 & 4.42
Javon Bullard — 4.47 & 4.48
Calen Bullock — 4.49 & 4.54
Jaylon Carlies — 4.50 & 4.54
Dominique Hampton — 4.51 & 4.54
Jaylen Key — 4.60 & 4.64
Kam Kinchens — 4.65 & 4.68
Kitan Oladapo — 4.58 & 4.60
Tyler Owens — DNF
Josh Proctor — 4.60 & 4.56
Demani Richardson — 4.60 & 4.61
Andre’ Sam — 4.59 & 4.62
Jaylin Simpson — 4.47 & 4.45
Tylee Smith — 4.48 & 4.46
Dadrion Taylor-Demerson — 4.42 & 4.41
Sione Vaki — 4.62 & 4.62
Evan Williams — 4.61 & 4.62
James Williams — 4.65 & 4.67

Tyler Owens, who did great in the explosive tests, pulled up during his first forty run and it’s been confirmed he’s out for the day. As you can see, several other big name safeties didn’t run including Tyler Nubin and Malik Mustapha.

I asked a source at Washington to tell me more about Dominique Hampton. This was the review: “Freak of nature, smart, consistent and he’s a great dude. Quiet killer. Our defense scheme funnelled the vast majority of plays to the strong safety by design and he was good enough in that key position for us to go to a Championship.”

Sounds like someone the Seahawks could be interested in.

Safety on-field drills

The NFL Network hasn’t shown a lot of the early drills. We saw some transitions — not exactly a worthwhile exercise for safeties — then straight to commercials after an interview with Brandon Beane.

The safeties are now transitioning and then tracking the football. As a group they’ve done an excellent job high-pointing the football, tracking it in the air. It’s been impressive — although Jaden Hicks messed his rep. Kam Kinchens gets a lot of hype, including on this broadcast, but I thought he was one of the most overrated players in college football. He didn’t run fast and he didn’t look comfortable tracking the ball.

Tyler Nubin is out there working out despite not doing testing. It appears Malik Mustapha is simply out of the combine. Kitan Oladapo made a superb catch — we’ve had a lot of great catches in this session. The safeties have some hands. Dadrion Taylor-Demerson just made an outstanding catch off the turf too. Really impressive hands by multiple players.

I like the look of Dominique Hampton and Jaden Hicks in the ‘W” drill. Kitan Oladapo slipped on his plant and limped off injured during his rep. Andre Sam’ showed well stopping and starting. Tykee Smith, like some of the others, looked a bit stiff here.

Tyler Nubin didn’t do testing but a further tape review last week made me believe he’d fit Mike Macdonald’s system and Seattle’s character desires and I think he’s moved well enough on the field to believe he genuinely is the top safety. He’s not a special athlete but he’s in control, his body is well proportioned, he can cover and close. There’s a lot to like — but he’ll likely go in a range where the Seahawks currently have zero picks.

If I’ve said it once I’ve said it a million times. There are too many defensive back drills that are too similar. We’re four hours in and we’re just seeing the same thing over and over again. All this means is a later finish, no agility testing for the tight ends and probably most of these DB’s too.

Rich Eisen, Charles Davis and Daniel Jeremiah are back to their old ways of talking about absolutely anything other than what’s happening on the field.

Calen Bullock looks very thin and light. Not sure you’d want him up in the box much. Dominique Hampton, on the other hand, looks the part. As does Jaden Hicks — he almost has the body type of a poor man’s Kyle Hamilton. Tyler Nubin looked incredibly comfortable running the gauntlet.

I really liked Dadrion Taylor-Demerson on tape but had no idea he was this level of athlete. He’s tested well and shown well in the drills — so it’s time for a bit of tape revision.

That’s the end of the safety drills (and the defensive players at the combine). Next up it’s tight ends.

Tight end broad jumps

Ben Sinnott: 10’6″
Theo Johnson: 10’5″
Jaheim Bell: 10’4″
Dallin Holker: 10’2″
Tip Reiman: 10’1″
Trey Knox: 10’1″
Jared Wiley: 9’10”
Tanner McLachlan: 9’9″
Brevyn Spann-Ford: 9’8″
Cade Stover: 9’8″

Tight end vertical jumps

Ben Sinnott: 40.00″
Theo Johnson: 39.50″
Jared Wiley: 37.00″
Tanner McLachlan: 35.00″
Jaheim Bell: 35.00″
Cade Stover: 34.50″
Tip Reiman: 33.50″
Dallin Holker: 32.50″
Trey Knox: 32.50″
Brevyn Spann-Ford: 31.50″

These are incredible explosive testing numbers for Ben Sinnott. Not sure anyone expected that.

A reminder — the key tests to look out for with tight ends are the short shuttle, three cone and 10-yard splits. We’ll see if anyone does agility testing, seeing as they’ve been bumped to the very end of Friday night to test.

It’s been confirmed that Brock Bowers is not working out today.

Meanwhile, this is interesting:

Tight end forty yard times

10-yard splits in brackets

Jaheim Bell — 4.61 & 4.63 (1.58)
Devin Culp — 4.47 & DNR (1.55)
Dallin Holker — 4.81 & 4.78 (1.66)
Theo Johnson — 4.65 & 4.58 (1.55)
Tanner McLachlan — 4.66 & 4.61 (1.58)
Tip Reiman — 4.64 & 4.64 (1.55)
Ja’Tavion Sanders — 4.74 & 4.69 (1.59)
Ben Sinnott — 4.68 & 4.70 (1.59)
Brevyn Spann-Ford — 4.76 & 4.79 (1.67)
Cade Stover — 4.65 & DNR (1.59)
Jared Wiley — 4.62 & 4.65 (1.62)

There are some really nice 10-yard splits here. Anything in the 1.5’s is impressive.

I’ve paused the workouts to quickly listen to Hugh Millen on KJR. Quick update, Millen was worth it. Always gold.

On these initial drills the word that springs to mind watching Ben Sinnott is ‘dynamic’. Blocking isn’t said to be a strength of Devin Culp’s and we sat that on the sleds. Theo Johnson did a better job and is well sized and athletic. Tip Reiman’s rep on the sled was textbook and managed to get the crowd cheering a sled drill, which is a first. Reiman is built like a block of granite. Great frame. Cade Stover also did an excellent job.

On the gauntlet, Reiman let the ball get into his body a bit too much but he caught everything. I though Ja’Tavion Sanders and Ben Sinnott had a similar rep. Cade Stover is very good at cupping his hands and he showed that here but he didn’t sprint through his gauntlet and was too careful, trying to catch every pass.

Tanner McLachlan moved well on the in-cut drill. His body movements are precise. Sinnott just looked powerful, quick and dynamic on his rep. I’d like to see Cade Stover unlock things in the way Sinnott is doing and just go flat out.

Jaheim Bell looks like a useful move-TE. He ran well on his wheel route and made a good, difficult grab. Theo Johnson is very leggy, he’s a long strider. I’m not sure he can be a dominant pass catcher but he can be a useful contributor. Tip Reiman dropped his pass on the wheel route. Sinnott, again, just looked superb.

The big winner among this group is undoubtedly Ben Sinnott. A complete performance so far. He’s sharp into his breaks, he maintains speed through the route, he’s tracking the ball well and showing great hands.

A.J. Barner is more of a blocker but he’s dropped virtually every pass so far. But then he made a great grab on the fade route, of course. Jaheim Bell made a spectacular one-handed grab. Devin Culp tracked and caught his well. Theo Johnson made an awkward catch and got both feet in which was impressive, given how contorted his body was. Tanner McLachlan’s rep wasn’t well run.

Cornerback short shuttles

Myles Hard — 3.98
Mike Sainristil — 4.01
Kamari Lassiter — 4.12
Ryan Watts — 4.13
Josh Newton — 4.15
Kalen King — 4.16
Cam Hart — 4.24
Chau Smith-Wade 4.32
Josh Wallace — 4.35
MJ Devonshire — 4.35

Remember — Chop Robinson ran a 4.25 at 255lbs.

Cornerback three cones

Kamari Lassiter — 6.62
Ryan Watts — 6.82
Myles Harden — 6.88
Mike Sainristil — 6.99
Josh Newton — 7.01
Chau Smith-Wade — 7.05
Cam Hart — 7.12
MJ Devonshire

Kamari Lassiter’s three-cone should give him a huge boost. That’s a number, to go with the way he did drills, that could/should secure a top-22 placing.

Safety short shuttles

Dominique Hampton — 4.14
Jaden Hicks — 4.37

Safety three cones

Dominique Hampton — 6.83
Jaden Hicks — 6.88

Dominique Hampton had a great day today.

Only two safeties did any agility testing. Big thanks, NFL.

I’m going to end the live blog today, while hoping the tight ends do any agility testing. Fingers crossed. Reaction stream starting shortly, article reviewing the day to come too.

Combine day one recap: Florida State’s Braden Fiske shines on a mostly average day

Braden Fiske stars on day one

It’s no exaggeration to say Fiske had one of the best D-line performances at the combine in recent memory. He just looked like he was on a different level to everyone else. He stole the show with a complete performance that should propel his draft stock to new heights, following up a dynamic Senior Bowl showing.

On tape his effort and motor were never in question. He was disruptive, recorded 28 pressures and six sacks. The concerns were all based on physical limitations such as a lack of length (31 inch arms). However, many will be returning to the tape in the coming days after this performance to see if his production and talent match closer to elite-level athleticism rather than pure effort.

At 6-4 and 292lbs he ran a 4.78 forty, a 1.68 10-yard split and a sensational 4.38 short shuttle. To compare, Aaron Donald (who was 285lbs and had 32.5 inch arms) ran a 4.39 short shuttle. Fiske is also explosive — jumping a 33.5 inch vertical and a 9-9 broad.

He took his testing results into the on-field drills — showing superb change of direction skills. He was like lightning going in and out of the bags and his bend to finish had to be seen to be believed. He flashed power in his hands when he forcefully connected with the bags and he ran a smooth figure-of-eight rep.

On this evidence, provided you can see beyond the lack of length, Fiske has the profile of a highly disruptive defensive tackle with the combination of speed, power and agility every team craves.

Every now and again you see a player like this with the production, attitude, character and complete physical profile and a few years into a great NFL career you ask yourself — how did he last as long as he did in the draft? Fiske looked sensational today and had a first round performance.

Big name edge rushers make a statement

Chop Robinson, the player I think is the best edge rusher in the class, ran a 4.48 at 254lbs including an elite 1.54 10-yard split. Dallas Turner ran a 4.46 at 247lbs, also with a 1.54 10-yard split. Jared Verse, who has a very different body type but weighed the same as Robinson, ran a 4.58 with a 1.60 10-yard split.

It was job done for the top three edge rushers. I think Robinson and Verse’s tape is a lot more impressive than Turner’s — he always left me wanting more when watching Alabama. However, this is a dynamic edge rush trio who should all be high picks as a consequence of these testing results.

Overall the EDGE class underwhelmed, as did the linebackers. They were two fairly routine sessions after an eye-catching performance from the defensive tackles. For that reason, there might be a bit of a rush for the top three in this draft at the top of round one.

Adding to Chop Robinson’s good day, he a ran a 4.25 short shuttle while Verse timed at a 4.44 (Marshawn Kneeland had the most impressive time — a 4.18).

I think if Robinson or Verse last to #16, they should be strongly considered by the Seahawks. I’m less enamoured with Turner but the profile is there for a very productive NFL career.

Three other defensive tackles stand-out

LSU’s Mekhi Wingo just had a really consistent workout. He ran the second fastest forty yard dash behind Fiske (4.85), added a blistering 1.64 10-yard split at 284lbs (which is a truly elite-level time) and had explosive testing results in the vertical (31.5 inches) and broad (9-1) jumps. He does lack ideal length (32 inch arms) but he performed well in every drill and showed off a fantastic physical profile.

Let’s just dwell on Wingo’s 10-yard split. It was faster than Bralen Trice’s 1.65 at 245lbs. An EDGE rusher would be fairly pleased with a 1.64. He did it at 284lbs. As with Fiske, you have to work out how bothered you are by the lack of length. But this was a headline-making 10-yard split by a 284lbs defensive lineman.

We’ve said in the past that if the Seahawks are looking for their answer to Justin Madubuike, Ruke Orhorhoro fits the bill. He has almost identical size at 6-4 and 294lbs with excellent arm length (34 inches). Madubuike was 6-3, 293lbs and had 33.5 inch arms. Orhorhoro ran a 4.89 forty, a 1.67 10-yard split and jumped a 32 inch vertical plus a 9-8 broad. Madubuike ran a 4.83 forty and a 1.73 10-yard split.

Both players also have nicely proportioned frames and you could see how easily Orhorhoro moved around the field. He looked like a million dollars and justified the second round grade he has on our horizontal board.

Texas’ Byron Murphy also tested well and put in a series of strong on-field drills. Although there are legit concerns about his size (6-0, 297lbs, 32.5 inch arms) his thick lower body stood out on the field and he was noticeably more muscular than other players in the arse and legs. That should help make up for a lack of length, although on tape he had some struggles against the run (it was surprising to hear him say on PFT that run defense was the best part of his game). He ran a 4.89 forty, a 1.69 10-yard split and jumped a 33 inch vertical plus a 9-3 broad. These are really good numbers and he performed well during drills.

I also thought DeWayne Carter and Tyler Davis made an impression. There are options here. The one minor surprise was Kris Jenkins — who did so well during the early testing (4.91 forty, 1.70 10-yard split, 30 inch vertical, 9-7 broad) but only ran a very average 4.78 short shuttle.

Linebackers, ho-hum

As I was watching the linebacker drills, I kept glancing at the free agent targets list I’ve compiled. The Seahawks have a black hole at the position and I’ve never been more convinced they’ll be spending whatever free agency money they can muster on Jordyn Brooks or someone else.

This isn’t going to be an easy draft to solve any linebacker problems. Junior Colson didn’t do any testing, having hummed and hawed yesterday on PFT about whether he was going to test with a hamstring strain. Jeremiah Trotter weighed at 228lbs and looked tiny. Several linebackers didn’t run a forty. There were some nice explosive results in the jumps but the on-field drills felt unremarkable.

The NFL has wrecked the combine with the stupid decision to move it to prime time. With the linebackers starting last, only five opted to run a crucial short shuttle.

Trevin Wallace at Kentucky made an impression with some nice movement skills and explosive testing. Payton Wilson shone, as expected, with a complete performance. Apart from that, it was all pretty mediocre.

This is a position where you can often find a ‘type’ and a ‘fit’ and maybe the Seahawks will find their guy? Watching that today, it was hard to think who it might be.

T’Vondre Sweat was… interesting

When re-watching his Senior Bowl tape, the flashy reps from Sweat were out of this world. Power, supreme quickness for his size. It was very impressive.

At times today he was majestic running around the field at 366lbs. I can’t recall a man with his body type moving like that. Jordan Davis and Mekhi Becton were big but Sweat carries a lot more, shall we say, ‘bad weight’. Yet he’s still a great athlete.

On some drills he’d look amazing. His forty, a 5.27, isn’t bad at all. But there were other drills where he looked out of control and like a bull in a china shop.

The talent and rare mobility is there. Teams will have to determine how early you can take a player who weighs 366lbs for an athletic job interview — and decide whether they can trust him to manage his weight when he enters the league.

Why was Bralen Trice 245lbs?

He played bigger at Washington and if he lost weight to run faster — he only managed a 4.72. He seemed to get hurt during drills and didn’t run a short shuttle — a drill that could’ve won him a lot of respect, given he’s been timed running in the 4.2’s at a heavier weight at UW. This was not a good day for his stock.

If you missed our day one Senior Bowl recap live stream, watch it here:

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