Curtis Allen’s week fifteen watchpoints (vs 49ers)

This is a guest article by Curtis Allen. After the game today tune into the instant reaction live stream which will be available on here and on our YouTube channel

Pete Carroll’s record at home against the San Francisco 49ers is a sparkling 10-2. Those two losses were extremely close as well, losing by a field goal late in the game in 2011 and by a couple inches as a fourth-down pass to Jacob Hollister with twelve seconds to play netted four yards when the Seahawks needed five to win it.

That is about as good a stretch against one opponent – particularly a division opponent – as you are likely to find in the NFL.

I point this out not in some vain attempt to guarantee a win or engender unreasonable expectations for the Thursday game but as a way to demonstrate that current-year records and trends can at times take a backseat when games against division opponents appear on the schedule. Particularly when you consider this game is a must-win for the Seahawks to punch their ticket to the playoffs by winning the division. Absent that, it is scraping for a wild-card spot and relying on other teams to lose.

As a straight up head-to-head matchup, this looks like an incredibly tough game for the Seahawks.

San Francisco has been on a roll, winning six consecutive games.

It is not just the wins though; it is the way they are winning that spells so much trouble for Seattle. They are actually doing what Pete Carroll wishes the Seahawks could do. They are running the ball at will and stopping the run on defense.

In the last six games the Niners have run for an average of 142 yards per game. Their defense? Allowing an average of 57 yards per game.

You read that right. They are out-gaining opponents on the ground by a whopping 85 yards per game.

The Seahawks’ last six? They are floundering at 3-3 and have been getting out-gained by 92 yards per game on the ground.

The math is just too convenient. It points to a big disparity and portends that the Niners should completely control this game.

So that is the only real watch point. The Seahawks have to at least get closer to keeping this game even on the ground if they are to have a chance.

Kenneth Walker appears ready to come back. It is entirely possible that the team felt he could have played against Carolina but decided to save him for this game. They will need everything he can muster. The recent streak he has been on of ‘dancing indecisiveness’ looking for daylight will have to be put behind him. The team will take any game-breaking runs they can get but at this point just a solid ground game that takes some pressure off Geno Smith and the defense would be a major step in the right direction.

On defense, the only thing I can suggest to improve their rushing defense is to bring Bob Newhart in as a sports consultant. The time for scheme questions and talk about run fits is over. The team has to execute. They must stop the run in order to have a fighting chance.

The rest is minor details. But here a couple factors that could really play out in this game…

Win the Turnover Battle

This has been a big key to the Niners’ resurgence. During their six-game winning streak, the team has been an astounding +9 in turnover ratio. They have absolutely dominated opponents in this area, with 12 turnovers against only three giveaways.

Eight of those turnovers have been interceptions, coming from seven different defenders.

Meanwhile, their offense has only thrown two interceptions in six games.

Geno Smith has really struggled with decision-making recently. With the absence of a solid running game and a defense on track to once again be on the field for the most plays in the NFL, he has taken some chances on offense that he should not and it has burned him.

He actually came out and said this in a recent press conference:

It is a nice moment of honesty from Geno about his recent play. There is a reason he has led the league in completion percentage this season while still pushing the ball downfield: he has made good decisions and been able to execute them. If the Seahawks are to have a chance on Thursday, Geno will need to once again find that slim margin between safe and aggressive.

Fumbles and ball security will also be critical for the offense. D.K. Metcalf has two fumbles this season. Now would be a time for him to keep control of the ball and dominate the game.

On defense, forcing turnovers would go a very, very long way towards winning.

Tariq Woolen is their star ballhawk. Another interception Thursday would be a tremendously impactful.

However, as the Niners are likely to run heavily, chances are those turnovers will have to come in the form of fumbles.

That may provide an advantage for Seattle – the Seahawks are tied for third in the NFL with ten recovered fumbles. However, they have hit a bit of a dry spell. Their last recovered fumble was in Week Nine against the Cardinals. If there would be one game where they desperately need to pick that trend back up, it would be this one.

Turnovers are extremely hard to predict. Sometimes they come in the form of a little luck, sometimes it is all hard work and desire. One of those ways the Seahawks can control. The team has been miserable and beaten up on defense in recent games.

In a way, a Thursday game could actually prove beneficial. A way for the team to not stew on their troubles for a couple days but put their head down and get back to work. A return to Turnover Thursday would be just what the doctor ordered.

Involve the Tight Ends in the Offense More

This one is a tall order. San Francisco are one of the NFL’s best teams in defending tight ends. Their two safeties are allowing only a 58% completion percentage on 69 targets this year. Fred Warner is allowing only 62%.

Indeed, the Seahawks only gained 11 yards on four targets to the tight ends in that Week Two loss. What has been a big weapon all season for the Seahawks was effectively neutralized in that game.

The Niners players are experts at clogging the middle of the field and quickly closing windows to tight ends in the seam. The result has been only two touchdowns conceded and the third-lowest yards in the NFL conceded to tight ends all year.

Shane Waldron is going to have a real job ahead of him. We have seen some creativity in the offense this year. Ways to get guys open for pretty simple completions.

The boot play has been an extremely effective tool at getting the offense in gear with some easy yards. It works as an occasional substitute for an ineffective rushing game. No doubt the Niners have seen its effectiveness and are scheming up ways to counter it.

So, it is a chess match. The Seahawks will definitely want to use a play like this early in the game. Show the Niners what they can do here and establish a little rhythm. But also, they need to build off of it. Add a wrinkle or two and try to catch the defense over-pursuing a little.

How about flipping the script a little? Line up Metcalf in the slot and a Noah Fant or Colby Parkinson out wide and have Metcalf either move the defenders out to clear the field for a quick slant to let the tight end use his size advantage over the corner. Or, if the Niners put a smaller or slower defender on Metcalf, him use his size and skill advantages to win that battle.

Win the Miscellaneous

This is sort of a catch-all for the odd details that often happen to the Seahawks in games this year. They have to come out on the winning end on more of these than not.

That means winning challenges, or Pete Carroll having the wisdom to not challenge sure losses or inconsequential wins.

That means ‘winning’ the controversial calls by the referees more than ‘losing’ them.

That means a strong, mistake-free game from the Special Teams unit.

That means Pete Carroll making good decisions on the field. When to go for it on fourth down, when to blitz, when to call timeouts, and having the wisdom to know when a trick play will work and when to deploy it.


  1. Jordan

    Adding to the Jamal/Quandre/Draft discussion this offseason is that Ryan Neal is better, younger (slightly younger than Jamal) and as a 2023 RFA probably cheaper.

    I suppose if they don’t find it palatable to move on from Jamal or Quandre they could see if there are any trade opportunities for Neal after tendering him.

    PFF has him as the 8th best safety in the league this season, and that doesn’t feel out of place:

    • Rob4q

      What if our 2023 starting safeties are currently on the roster? Think about it for a minute – Ryan Neal is good, like really good and they will need to resign him to a new deal next year. The just picked up Jonathan Abrams who was a former 1st round pick. He wasn’t horrible in LV and he could be good in a more limited role as a true SS. Especially if we are able to upgrade the DL and add an impact LB.

      Then use a draft pick on one of the Safeties Rob has identified to come in and learn for a year.

      I do think that Jamal Adams will be on the roster next year as I don’t think Pete can give up on him yet. That said, maybe the best thing for both Adams and the Seahawks is that he fails his physical and they have to reach an injury settlement and release him. What would that do to the cap hit from his contract?

      I know they love Diggs and his leadership, but he just hasn’t been the same player this year. Cannot justify that contract in 2023…

      • Rob4

        This was an interesting blurb in that PFF link:

        • Three Cowboys safeties place in the top 25: Dallas uses three safeties more than any other team, and those players are excelling in 2022.

        How many teams use a 3 safety alignment regularly?

        • cha

          Just saying: Cody Barton’s 4 lowest snap count games? Seahawks were 4-0.

          • Rob4q

            Is that because they were in Nickle more with an extra CB? Or did they employ a 3 Safety look?

            • cha

              3 safeties. Josh Jones got as many or more snaps than Barton with Neal and Diggs.

              • Rob4q

                Thanks, that makes sense then. So even though Jones isn’t very good, the defense was better with him on the field with Diggs & Neal and Barton not playing as much. Imagine what this defense could be with the right pieces to make it work?

                Maybe the scheme isn’t as much of the problem as it it’s not having the right players to run it? That makes Rob’s call to go back to the scheme that the current players can run hit home even more. And the fact that they thought these current players could actually run this new scheme more of an indictment of them!

  2. UkAlex6674

    A lot of people media platform wide are focusing on whether CM and or Purdy plays and if they don’t then we will be fine. It’s amazing to see that these people forget about the 49er D, Kittle, Aiyuk, any RB in this system, the O line etc that still forms a very strong team.

    Winner will be by 3 points, this is one of those games we play up to the opponent, but I don’t know which way it will go!

  3. Henry Taylor

    I think we’re going to win tonight. Logical part of my brain says there’s no chance, but idk, I have good vibes.

    Pete Carroll vs the 9ers, Brock Purdy now with a full game of tape to try to exploit, home advantage amplified on a short week. It would be incredibly Seahawky to pull this out at the lowest moment of their season.

    • 206

      I hope you’re right. I’m not so optimistic. A win tonight would surely change the trajectory of the season, a loss would just about be the nail in the coffin.

      • UkAlex6674

        On the plus side, who on earth thought we’d be in this situation at this point of the season?!

        • Rob Staton

          I do think the ‘OMG never imagined this’ factor is fading somewhat

          We could be a .500 team by the end of tonight with a bunch of wins against bad teams, with a bunch of losses against bad teams too, with a horrifying defense and no running game

          If this carries on that fleeting four game winning streak might actually be detrimental

          • Matt

            People really don’t understand how weak our schedule has been. One of our “best wins” was against a team (Giants) that has gone like 1-5-1 since we played them. I was called crazy for suggesting the Giants might not even be a .500 team by year’s end.

            Continually amazed how much of this fanbase year a for purgatory. 7-9 wins is such a horrible place to be in when you are a bad team relying on a weak schedule to get to those win totals.

            IMO, you’re either building something or your dying. There’s not such thing has treading water.

            • Peter

              This whole comment hits.

              Very glad when the dominate narrative of this season ends and fans can maybe get back to viewing the team for what it is.

              A ton of energy spent talking about coach of the year, etc, blah, blah, blah.

              But very little talking about how long we go as fans happy to be 7 to 10 wins and not getting in to the playoffs or getting bounced on our asses as quickly as we can.

            • Big Mike

              Seems like the only quality win we have this year is the Chargers and they’re more up and down than a kid on a pogo stick.

  4. Simo

    Needless to say, if they Hawks want to have any chance at winning tonight, they absolutely need to avoid another slow start. They need to come out with intensity and emotion right from the start. A victory might be unattainable if they start the game like they did last week.

    • Rob Staton

      They need to play like they did against Denver

  5. AlaskaHawk

    I’m rooting for the Seahawks. But if I were a betting man I would take San Francisco and give the hawks the three points. This game is going to be ugly.

    • Big Mike

      That’s how I see it too.

  6. cha

    And once again, with the defense in shambles, people are referring to the defense as “young” as a way to explain their poor performance.

    There are only 3 players on defense in their top 20 in snaps this season that are under the age of 25: Bryant, Woolen and Mafe. And they are not the problem.

    Stop with this. Would you please.

    • Matt

      The excuses that Pete Carroll gets from this fanbase will never not amaze me. It’s as if he’s just this unlucky bystander with no control. Just a victim of his circumstances.

      • Rob4q

        This defense needs a big, bad disruptor at NT to make it work. Someone who commands double teams and still gets into the backfield! I love Al Woods, but that just isn’t him…at any point in his career and especially now.

        The two in the draft that jump out are Mazi Smith and Siaki Ika. Any others that have that profile of a big dude, like 330+ lbs, that can move?

        • Rob4q

          Dang that’s a big boy! From PFN on Siaki Ika:

          “Did we mention size at any point in the introduction to Ika’s scouting report? It seems almost blasé, but the Baylor DT’s sheer size is truly a strength. At 6’4″ and 358 pounds, there truly are few prospects that command space in the same way that Ika does. He’s the football equivalent of a dam blocking a river to prevent the village beneath it from being flooded. Trying to run your offense through the gap that he inhabits is simply futile. Remove Ika, and the Baylor defense would be substantially more susceptible to attack.”

      • Big Mike

        Well said Matt.

  7. Blitzy the Clown

    Is Godwin Igwebuike on the active tonight?

    Now that Walker is back I don’t know. I say I hope he is because he sure added a major spark on special teams.

    Which leads me to say I think ST could be the difference tonight.

    Thanks for the recent articles cha

    • Rob Staton

      He has been activated

      • Blitzy the Clown

        Here’s to hoping he sets the tone from the opening kickoff

        • Big Mike

          We’ll win the toss and defer cuz you know, our defense is bad ass.

  8. Ashish

    Rob i see lot of mock draft have hawks picking Jared Verse. I have not heard about him in your article. Your thoughts?

  9. 509 Chris

    Kind of along what cha was saying that the young defense is a red hearing, I’m frustrated that we’re seeing the old vets get all the playing time. Mafe has seen his snaps dip the last few weeks and Nowusu is playing like 90%. If they win tonight and by some chance still have a chance at division/ wildcard, I’m not sure what he’ll have left in the tank. Bryant has seen a dip in snaps too but that could be opposing teams coming out in run heavy formation because they know we can’t stop it.

    If the defense sucks anyway and can’t stop the run, let the young guys in. See what they can do. Barton needs to be cut. They can play Abrams in his spot as a 3rd safety or something. Put the waterboy in.

  10. cha


    Tre Brown
    Tony Jones Jr
    Al Woods
    Jake Curhan
    Al Woods
    Artie Burns

    • Group Captain Mandrake

      I knew Al was a big dude, but wow. Two roster spots?!

      • TomLPDX

        Ha! Thanks for the chuckle Capt.

      • cha

        Whoops. Deejay Dallas also inactive.

  11. Palatypus

    My prediction for the game: Sham-bullocks!

  12. 206

    This is a matchup made in hell for this Seahawks team. Let’s see what happens

  13. Jabroni-DC

    It’s put up or shutup time tonight.
    Let’s punch the 9ers in the face!

    • Palatypus

      Int their Purdy mouth?

  14. Big Mike

    Thanks very much as always for your work here cha.

  15. 12th chuck

    I just want a close game, and the seahawks look like they are somewhat prepared, unlike some of the other losses, when it was embarrassing

  16. 206

    Lot of red in the stands, hope it fills out with blue and green soon

  17. cha

    Kirk H just told Al Michaels the Niners are coming to play in “the most difficult environment in the NFL.”

    • Roy Batty

      Oh, Kirk, how wrong your are.

  18. Roy Batty

    This is the first time I’ve watched a game on Amazon, and I have to say, that pregame panel was painful to watch. No flow. No insightful banter. Just a very, very meh watch.

  19. Roy Batty

    Yeah, another bad screen pass.

  20. ShowMeYourHawk

    Not watching this tripe tonight but hoping we’re still in line for pick #2 after McCaffrey gets 250+ all purpose yards.

  21. Chris

    Blythe getting blown up

    • 12th chuck

      I wish pete would value o lineman more, let alone a center

  22. KennyBadger

    Ryan Neal crystallizes my thoughts on this team – how can you find such a nice player on the cheap yet significantly overpay for players at the same position? I digress. Cheers to beating the niners and having him in Seattle for a while…

  23. Troy

    Any question who the tougher team in the trenches is?? LOL

  24. cha

    We need more, Geno.

  25. Blitzy the Clown

    Blythe is a serious liability

    • dand393

      We have to do something about Center like no more messing around please address this in the offseason

  26. Tallyhawk

    Waldron has got to get it together. We need some quick hitters and some creativity. Play action isn’t going to work until we show we can actually run the ball.

  27. cha

    Jordyn Brooks doing his best Cody Barton impression on that McCaffrey run.

    • Blitzy the Clown

      Are you at the game Curtis?

      • cha


  28. Hawkster

    Leg crossed and tossed. That IOL is a mess.

  29. Blitzy the Clown

    We’re down Woods and now no Mone. This could get ugly

    • Blitzy the Clown

      Ok it’s ugly

      • Blitzy the Clown

        Really ugly

  30. Chris

    Way to easy of a 3rd down completion

  31. Blitzy the Clown

    Nice play by Nwosu

  32. Chris

    Our defense is playing so soft in the pass game

  33. Big Mike

    Incredible play design sadly by the wrong team

    • Big Mike

      And the key was plenty of time to run the play

  34. Chris

    Game over

  35. 12th chuck

    just bench diggs ffs

    • Big Mike

      Our buddy Barton was part of the fail on that play as well

  36. Pran

    They play better defense in high school..just unwatchable

  37. Peter

    Another year another backup looking sharp

  38. Peter

    Nobody wants to ay us pete?….or everyone wants to play us.

    • Big Mike

      That’s news of all we’re gonna get 2 more years of Carol

  39. Troy

    Complete domination. Embarrassing.

  40. 12th chuck

    geno cant read a blitz to save his life, not worth no 30 mil a year

    • Big Mike

      I agree that he is not worth 30 million dollars a year however that’s probably a fail in the blocking

  41. schwefelfell

    They’re just so much better than the hawks in every aspect

    • Peter

      FO or coaching or both

    • Troy

      Better, yes and they play with so much more effort and energy.

  42. Pran

    It looks like 9ths have the winning points on board.

  43. Chris

    Now the rout begins

  44. 12th chuck

    let the implosion begin

  45. Blitzy the Clown

    Dammit Taylor!

    • Troy

      High football IQ

  46. Chris

    Poona is playing good

  47. Big Mike

    God how pathetic
    High school teams have more discipline than that

  48. KennyBadger

    Cut Taylor at halftime.

  49. Troy

    Yep. Just plain stupid.

  50. cha

    First Q: Niners have 108 yards to the Seahawks’ 2.

    • Troy

      Frankly, bring on 7-10 and a top 10 pick. Embarrassing

  51. Chris

    Time for some accountability! Bench Taylor and let mafe get his snaps

  52. Pran

    Hope they lose out rest of the way, Pete and co is fired.

    All-Pro Purdy is 9/9. Don’t tell anyone Pete is a defensive coach ever again

    • Big Mike

      She will not fire him. He will be here for 2 more years. I watched how she dealt with a horrible general manager for the trail blazers and the only way they finally got rid of him was to find dirt on him and they’ll never find dirt on Pete because hes a decent human being

      • Big Mike

        And by the way I would love to be wrong if I am please come in and remind me that I was

  53. Romeo A57

    We are now at 5 quarters this season with 0 offensive points scored against the 49ers. We need to remember that the offense needs to be addressed in the offseason also.

  54. Troy

    DK is so immature. Every week it’s the same shit.

    • Big Mike

      It’s tiresome

    • Pran

      Scoring some penalties that way at least.. offense is shit anyways.

  55. 206

    Happy to see mafe and Taylor in the field more often

    • Troy

      Made should be playing more. He really sets the edge against the run.

  56. Big Mike

    Is there any chance we ever see a prime time game from Seattle without the fish throw?

    • Hawkster

      Sad that poor handling of seafood has become such a thing.

      • KSal

        It might end up being the best part of this game though!

  57. 805Hawk

    After a while, you just run out of things to say. Defense sucks. Coaching sucks. Metcalf gets hot and does something stupid. I’m just waiting for Pete to challenge a play without any hope of winning and then call a timeout that wasn’t needed.

  58. Hebegbs

    The difference between the 49r defense and the Hawk defense is night and day. The hosts did an overview of the draft picks 49r have done since 2015 fixating on the D line with their top picks. We’ve just fallen way behind in D line talent.

    DK being a bonehead. DT drawn offsides on a clearly design play to have someone jump. Wow. Surprise 49r didn’t go for it on 4th after that.

    Pete really hammering that gum.

    Hawk interior O line looks like HS kids playing against Bama D linemen.

  59. Blitzy the Clown

    Offense getting a little rhythm

  60. Big Mike

    These same people have been playing offensive line for us all year long why can they not adjust to these types of twists when they’re getting rushed?

  61. Romeo A57

    3 Points by the offense. At least the Seahawks won’t get shut out tonight

  62. Troy

    I’m jealous of the 9ers D. Gang tackling, toughness, swagger, creativity

    • Big Mike

      And one bad-ass pass rush

  63. 206

    Geno playing alright but there are still more sketchy throws than I would like!

    • Matt

      He has the greatest turnover luck I’ve ever seen. It’s incredible.

  64. Hawkster

    Say what you will, it was a gritty effort by the skill players to even get that 3 pts.

  65. Seahawkwalt

    Announcers.. “ niners this, niners that”. Shut up already

    • dand393

      Why what’s there to say about the hawks other then negative stuff

  66. downtownjewelrybryan

    wow collier is garbage

    • Leo

      I get viscerally angry when I see his number, this guy was supposed to be our Michael Bennett replacement

      • KD

        Frank Clark replacement 🙁

      • Big Mike

        Does anyone think he’ll actually play in the NFL next year or will this just be it for his “career” once hes not resigned in Seattle?

        • Hawkster

          3 yrs, $11m, Seattle likes shorter contracts.

  67. Blitzy the Clown

    How does Diggs miss that?

    • Big Mike

      Maybe it’s Jamal Adams wearing his number

      So instead of having the ball at the 50 we have at the 18 huge difference on that drop

    • KD

      ffs Diggs

  68. Mick

    OK I’m happy not to wake up to a disaster already.

  69. Big Mike

    Yeah I don’t forget they get the ball to start the 2nd half as Al just mentioned

  70. KD

    Excellent job Homer. A+ job there buddy. High five

  71. Hawks4life

    Idc if we draft Bijan with our first pick, I can’t bare to watch another year with Penny, Dallas and Homer running the football. I doubt Dallas or Homer would be in the league if it wasn’t for Pete keeping them.

    • Big Mike

      Better interior run blocking would make a huge difference. Don’t forget we could have had creed Humphrey instead we drafted Eskridge who has barely played all season for the last 2 seasons

      • Hawks4life

        100% agree but we’ve now watched multiple years of Dallas and Homer being useless runners and even more from Penny. This needs to be addressed

      • Hebegbs

        Why would we need a great center? Blythe has been amazing tonight against Armsted…Uggg!! Interior guys are just not good. Both sides of the ball.

      • Ok

        Drafting dee instead of creed, trading picks for Adams, desperate moves that feel like trying to cheat/hack towards wins. Gadgets instead of strength. Instead of investing in the line of scrimmage, spending money further and further away, just grasping for results. Finesse team.

        • Big Mike

          Agree with everything you’ve said

  72. Big Mike

    Those last 2 plays is what it looks like when you’re interior offensive line is good at run blocking

  73. HOUSE

    Damn… just like that we’re down 11

  74. Mick

    Why do we keep trying with Homer? he should be a special teams guy and not more.

  75. Romeo A57

    The Seahawks defense is playing ok so far. Thatvlast 7 points goes to the offense. The Seahawks offense is impotent again.

  76. Trevor

    Diggs drops an easy TD in SF territory. Two plays later Homer fumbles and it’s game over.

    • KD

      ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ *Curb Your Enthusiasm theme plays*

    • Troy

      Diggs = paycheck player.

  77. Romeo A57

    Yeah just keep showing that Diggs highlight reel play, Thanks Amazon!

  78. 206

    In order to win the margin of error was small, and we seem to have passed it.

    One thing, please get Mafe out there, these are valuable reps for a young player, Bruce’s time is over. Thanks for everything Bruce. lol

  79. 12th chuck

    DK is good, not great, always wanting more, but not in a good way. At least its a “close” game, and not an embarrassment.

    • downtownjewelrybryan

      not yet

    • Hawkster

      about that …

  80. 206

    Kirk and Al are not it.

    • 206

      Neither are Brooks and Barton. My god

  81. Big Mike

    Great tack wing at the end of this by both Diggs and Barton

    • Big Mike


      • Dave Stacey

        Clip that play and sums up those 2 player’s seasons, disgraceful

  82. Troy


    • 206

      It so obvious that he got his money and is now playing soft, just like Jamal. Damnit

    • Big Mike

      He and Barton both looked like they did on any part of tackling kittle. Efforts looked pretty half assed

  83. Dave Stacey

    How much are we paying Diggs again?
    I’ve had enough of seeing that guy (on that contract) and Barton on this team full stop

  84. Mick

    What a mess! It’s incredible how we managed to mess this game up.

  85. AlaskaHawk

    This is getting tough to watch!

  86. Rob Staton

    We are so bad

    • Big Mike



    • Leo

      You should be asleep Rob, this team isn’t worth a 3 am watch

  87. 805Hawk

    Bro oks chooses not to cover. Diggs and Barton choose not to tackle. Pathetic.

  88. Leo

    I remember when everyone was debating Daboll or Pete for Coach of the Year, a nice reminder that no one knows anything lol

  89. Big Mike

    Game 14 and we’re having coverage breakdowns. That is unacceptable and that is no doubt shit coaching

    • Mick

      How hard can it be to realize that Kittle will make plays for them and you need a man on him?

  90. Hawkster

    I get it, if I was the 49ers I’d be high fiving too. But the “accomplishment” is less than staggering given the circumstances.

  91. Big Mike

    That’s a shit call and if it was on our guy you’d say the same

    • 805Hawk

      Agreed. They need to loosen that call. That should not be a flag. I’m not sure what a defender is supposed to do. The only reason he lands on him is that they hit the Olineman.

  92. 206

    Geno lucky with that pick 6 call back. You cant blame him that much though, hes trying to make something happen.

    • Big Mike

      Got hit when he threw it too

  93. AlaskaHawk

    And all this from Mr. Irrelevant as QB. Let this be a reminder that you if you have a great TEAM and a great coach, you don’t need an elite quarterback.

    • Trevor

      100% people seem to forget the Hawks went to two Super Bowls and won one with that exact same scenario.

    • 805Hawk

      That’s why I’m don’t want to pay Geno $25-30m. Use the money to build the rest of the team. We aren’t a quarterback away….especially a Geno Smith away.

  94. Matt

    Geno could easily have 20 interceptions on the year. Have never seen a luckier player in my entire life. It’s actually crazy.

    • Matt

      His regression next year is going to be wild.

      • Troy

        Only a modest contract, otherwise move on..

        • Matt

          I am horrified they are gonna pay him real money. He’s a nice story, has played well, and has been luckier than any QB I can ever remember.

          • Trevor

            No one is paying Geno a big $ deal. Not the Hawks or anyone else. Not sure who started the $30 mil / yr talk. Had to be Geno’s agent. As you said it’s been a great story but he is not a franchise QB or the long term answer IMO.

            • Matt

              I don’t trust PC to not do something stupid.

      • 206

        He sure has been lucky at times, but as far as tonight goes, he is going against the best defense in the league with no running game to back him up.

        • Matt

          4 easy picks and has ZERO interceptions to show for it. He’s done this for almost two
          Months now. Tons of turnover worthy plays that don’t come to fruition. People need to start paying attention to this. He’s like a hitter who strikes out 33% of the time and is hitting .300. It’s wholly unsustainable.

  95. KennyBadger

    Defensive coach. Defensive scheme. Defensive errors. Defensive joke.

    • Big Mike


  96. AlaskaHawk

    I don’t see a Bosa or Donald in this draft. Maybe some player will surprise me.

    • Big Mike

      No worries Mr. 2 first rounders will be back next year and he’ll create all kinds of havoc.

  97. Mick

    OK now everything that could go wrong starts going wrong: penalties, sacks… But it’s tough not being able to score a TD in 3 quarters.

  98. David Staceg

    I’d chill on Geno. No run game and no defense it’s not on him
    He’s playing above the league average

  99. Trevor

    It is uncanny how much that SF defense looks like the LOB at least in the front 7. They are just bigger, stronger and more physical. Then they just keep everything in front of them and fly to the ball.

  100. Big Mike

    Nice to aquin Brooks

    • Big Mike

      Damned voice to text

  101. 206

    Brooks is trash.

    • Mick

      We let Bobby go for him.

      • 206

        His conditioning seems to be lacking. You never see Fred Warner getting tired.

      • Hawkster

        Wags was mailing it in his last year in SEA

  102. Hawks4life

    Not wasting anymore Sundays with this team

  103. Tony

    God this defense looks like such pansies.

  104. Chris

    I like how we play to protect the big play and give up everything underneath and still manage to give up a couple back breaking plays per game

  105. Pack of K9s

    How does a coach go from the best defense of al time, with some of the most disciplined and feared players to whatever this is?
    Carroll has been an awesome coach and I will always appreciate him, but i do think its time to move on. Doesn’t mean he can’t go somewhere else and coach a great D or even win a ton again, but he has lost the plot and i dont think its getting back on track

  106. Hebegbs

    Diggs and Barton. Wow. Great effort on Kittle TD. Brookes-is he always this bad? I don’t get to watch many Hawk games in Denver. I do get to see Denver lose a lot which is great.

  107. KennyBadger

    If Rob was the literal draft manager for the organization do you think the talent acquired could overcome the coaching? We should select Sean Payton at #2.

  108. Hawkster

    Every ref gets flag and they all fly, woo-hooo

  109. Matt

    Should hear no complaints about officiating today…holy moly.

    • Big Mike


  110. Chris

    You can definitely see the difference in coaching tonight

  111. Trevor

    I don’t think Diggs should get another snap this season. Have never seen a professional athlete, much less a pro football player make so many business decisions. It is embarrassing and so frustrating to watch.

    • Troy

      Play the rookies.

    • 12th chuck

      pretty sad to watch Irvin just stand there after the ball is snapped.

  112. Chris

    Totally agree

  113. Blitzy the Clown

    Nice run Walker

  114. Big Mike

    Serious question, why are we not at least chipping bosa like with a tight end?

    • Seahawkwalt

      Just saw this.. I agree

  115. Seahawkwalt

    Please chip Bosa.. good golly

  116. Hawkster

    was that 10 in the box?

  117. Robert

    And the best play of the game goes to Dickson and the hands team for that punt.

  118. Big Mike

    Why would you take a time out there when a delay of game cost you a quarter of a yard?

  119. Old but Slow

    With 3 good TEs, why can’t one of them help out Cross with Bosa?

  120. Big Mike

    Oh look Pete is going to win a pretty much irrelevant challenge.

    • Romeo A57

      He is way overdue to win a useless challenge

  121. 805Hawk

    Rob, I really hope you didn’t stay up to watch this.

    • Rob Staton

      I got up at 3:30am to watch it

  122. Big Mike

    Is grounding

  123. dand393

    Interesting note from Al there saying there is no timeline to sell the team maybe there’s hope Pete could get fired after going winless the rest of the year

  124. Matt

    This game could easily be 42-0

  125. Trevor

    Geno has happy feet now and it is hard to blame him.

    • Troy

      And fading backwards / throwing off his back foot on every throw.

      • Mick

        Yes and he went really conservative this game, no big plays at all. That’s one way of not having interceptions.

        • Matt

          Could have 4-6 interceptions today, easy. Horrific decision making today.

  126. Glor

    Step up in the damn pocket already!

  127. HOUSE

    This DeMeco Ryans led defense… I want KILLERS like these guys! I know our defense isn’t going to just turn into that, but damn… They are fierce and impressive

    • Glor

      Good drafting

      • HOUSE

        Agreed to an extent. We need a defensive coordinator that is a dog. Clint Hurt and this transition is just not working. Rob has talked about it a lot and the change to the 3-4 has been atrocious. DEF needs a FULL revamp

        • Glor


  128. Tony

    So far, this isn’t as embarrassing as I saw coming. I still see it getting worse the next 10 mins. But this less embarrassing than what the 9ers did to tb last week. So silver lining?

    • Big Mike

      Run D has been better tho bigger backs that break tackles give us more issues.

      • Tony

        This is also the point where our d just gives up. Late 4th qtr.

    • Trevor

      SF is a vastly superior team but if Diggs does not drop that interception at the end of the 1 half this could be a very different looking game.

  129. 6x2 stackmonster

    Mike Holngren always talks about affect. Gino’s affect is pretty piss poor!

  130. Glor

    Defense is making mr irrelevant look like a first round pick

    • Tony

      It’s also easy to know there’s a solid 7yds/carry in any audible

    • Glor

      But I would say this is also a very good affirmation to Rob’s point of maybe we take a late round QB and not pay Geno stupid money to work on adding proper talent to this team

  131. Chris

    We are definitely in a rebuild. Draft a qb let geno walk and drew man the ship while the rook develops. Just add talent for the next 2 yrs and hopefully after that we can compete

  132. Tony

    Can the defense get a stop?????

    No. It won’t happen.

  133. Mick

    Glad we got one, great play by Walker.

  134. Big Mike

    We’re in it in the 4th quarter Pete’s gotta be really stoked Carroll football

    • Tony

      I heard from a reliable source,that we were only a play or 2 away.

    • KennyBadger

      Turnover 🤞

  135. Old but Slow

    Hey, wait. Did Pete actually win a replay challenge?

    • Mick

      Not when it mattered, and wasted a timeout once more.

      • Big Mike


  136. Tony

    And, it’s over.

  137. KennyBadger

    Farm out goal line and challenge decisions Peter.

  138. ImUrHuckleBerri

    Need more Tanner Muse at LB. Dude likes to run and hit.

  139. Mick

    Best players of the game for the 49ers: Bosa, McCaffrey, Homer, Diggs.

    • Tony

      Jordyn brooks, Cody Barton too.

      • Mick

        Yes I want new linebackers, get rid of the ones we have for whatever we can get.

  140. Big Mike

    So now the question is does San Francisco rub it in with a touchdown or do they just kneel down a couple of times?

  141. Tony

    Who didn’t see that coming lol.
    Pete, that is your defense. Watch it on repeat all offseason.

    • Big Mike

      Yeah I take back my comment made earlier about the run defense being better tonight. Mccaffrey went over a 100 Guessing they ran for about 160

      • Tony

        I was preparing for 350 yds, so they beat my expectations.

    • Hawkster

      The LB ad S play is so bad I cant even see what the def scheme is tryin to do

      • Tony

        They are a 3-4, with a 4-3 roster, but 3-4 aspirations, but no idea of gap responsibilities and no interior pressure.

  142. Romeo A57

    The Seahawks Offense did score one TD against SF this year. What more do you people want 😕

  143. drrew76

    Can someone explain what happened on that Purdy slide?

    The league has clearly had a rule where the ball is ruled dead when a quarterback begins their slide, Russ missed out on multiple first downs his last few years here because of that interpretation.

    Tonight they said the ball isn’t ruled dead until the knee hits.

    Hawks were losing this game anyways, I’m just not sure I understand the call there, or if they were ruling that was a fundamentally different type of play.

    • Matt

      I believe the rule used to be ball spotted at point of player giving themselves up. Now I believe it’s when the body part hits the ground.

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