Curtis Allen’s week five watch points (vs Rams)

Note: This is a guest post by Curtis Allen and the latest piece in a weekly series. Curtis looks at the Seahawks and their opponents and discusses key factors…

No time to celebrate a win over a division foe. Time to buckle down and get ready for your true nemesis.

The Rams are coming off a division loss and know what is at stake. They also know the Seahawks have not forgotten that the Rams bounced them out of the playoffs last year in a bitter loss.

This game has the hallmarks of another tough NFC West showdown.

Are the Seahawks up to the challenge? They shook off an ugly two-game skid with a win against a banged up San Francisco team that could not execute the plays they needed to win.

They need to continue to ascend if they want to beat Los Angeles and get back into the NFC West title chase.

The Rams had been playing an outstanding brand of football in their first three weeks, dominating opponents on both sides of the ball and making it look easy. 

Until they got a bloody nose Sunday against the Cardinals, that is.

How did it go wrong for Los Angeles after going so right in prior weeks?

At the risk of taking a victory lap, the Cardinals took some notes from our post for the Seahawks’ Week Sixteen game against the Rams last year.

Arizona won the turnover battle 2-0.

They took an early lead and made the Ram defense play while behind. Up until this game, the Ram defense this season had played a grand total of four snaps while behind. In three whole games of NFL football, only four plays of it had the Ram defense on the field while trailing – their Achilles heel on defense according to the 2020 data. No wonder their success rate in those three games was so high.

The Cardinals dominated the Rams in the running game, running for 216 yards.

Kyler Murray knew when to take his shots, when to buy some time with his feet and when to take the yards on the ground the Rams gave him.

Related to all of that, they kept the Ram offense off the field, winning the time of possession battle by ten whole minutes.

It was a fantastic display. In the piece I asked these questions of the Seahawks:

It’s really a choice – do you want to try and beat them at their game? Or take control and make them play a game they’re far less effective at? The latter has a far greater chance of success. It won’t be easy but appears to be the most direct path to a win.

The Cardinals answered those questions emphatically. They showed the NFL that the Rams, talented as they are, are not the unbeatable juggernaut they had been made out to be.

Can the Seahawks follow suit? They are in a position to do so with their talent and ability but they will need to execute at a higher level than they have so far this season.

That post for Week 16 last year still contains the main watch points for this game. Control the time of possession, run the ball on this defense, be smart with the football and pick your spots.

I encourage you to read it if you have not already. We are going to work off of those, since they are still the key ingredients for a Seahawks win. 

Let us dig a little deeper into the detail of how they can get those things done.

Feed the beast in the running game

This is priority one. Run the ball on offense.

The Seahawks have consistently had success running against this Rams team but have been unable to really use that success to control the game.

In their last five games they have run the ball an average of 27 times for 124 yards for a very healthy 4.57 yards per carry. For all the talk of the potency of the Ram defensive line, the fact that you can move the ball on them on the ground seems to rarely be discussed.

Why? It is because the Rams have built their offense to fire off and take the lead early and force teams to go off script.

That strategy has worked against the Seahawks. In the playoff defeat last year, Chris Carson had an excellent game, running for a 4.81 yards per carry. He had seven carries of six or more yards, a fantastic rate of success.

But the Seahawks only got him the ball 16 times. Why so few? The Seahawks could not maintain offensive rhythm long enough to continue to feed Carson.

That needs to end Thursday.

The duo of Carson and Collins can be very potent against this defense, keep the Ram offense off the field and give Russell Wilson more time in the pocket.

A solid, consistent running game opens up all kinds of options.

The defense needs a big game from the safeties

The Rams offensive line is operating at a high level so far this season. Absent a breakdown or multiple injuries, Matt Stafford will have plenty of time in the pocket to throw on Thursday.

Have a look at a brief example of why they have been so effective this year:

Feel free to take a couple moments and enjoy the pure physicality of Brian Allen pancaking the 347lbs Vita Vea. It is truly impressive.

Finished? OK.

Now watch it again but focus on the left side. Guard David Edwards is lined up with Lavonte David in a two-point stance over him. Left tackle Andrew Whitworth has Ndamukong Suh lined up across him.

Edwards picks up that David’s blitzing pose is a disguise for a corner blitz. Watch him point it out to Whitworth and Whitworth make the adjustment. At the snap, as predicted, David jumps out of the blitz and into a coverage zone. Edwards picks up Suh, leaving Whitworth free to pick up the corner blitz from Russ Cockrell.

Gorgeous. Seamless. Like a Swiss watch.

We are not done. Wind it back again and watch the right side of the line. The exact same thing happens there. Austin Corbett signals to Rob Havenstein that Carson Tinker is disguising and takes Joe Tryon so Havenstein can take Shaq Barrett. Watch Corbett laterally hop into the gap with the snap.

A marvel of precision.

We are still not done. Wind it back and watch Stafford. He takes the snap, looks off the safety, sets his feet and hits the receiver in stride. Even if someone had made it through, the throw still would have gotten out in time. 

That is the kind of play the Seahawks will be dealing with Thursday night.

The entire offensive line is grading in the 70’s by PFF this season. They have not played cream puffs. They have played four teams with good to great defensive lines and only allowed three sacks and a small handful of pressures. The point being, Stafford is going to have some time.

The beauty of the Rams having Stafford instead of Jared Goff is it opens up the full playbook for Sean McVay. 

No more having to dial things back to accommodate a limited quarterback. 

No more keeping extra blockers in because Goff is not quick enough progressing through his reads.

No more overly relying on dump offs and praying that the running game can more than carry its weight.

What does this mean for the safeties?

With five offensive linemen operating at a very high level and a quarterback who can process the game quickly, McVay is able to send five receivers out into the field in various combinations.

Two of those receivers he frequently sends to act purely as decoys. Players that are never meant to run a route to catch the ball but simply to draw the safeties out of the area McVay wants his true target to occupy.

Both Quandre Diggs and Jamal Adams must be wary of this. 

The Rams are extremely good at showing you one thing on tape and then giving you that same look pre-snap in game but with a different agenda. So, you bite based on your film study, which is exactly what they want you to do.

Awareness, instinct and recovery/closing speed for this duo will be critical Thursday. They both showed some promise that their game is trending in a positive direction on Sunday. Another big step forward will do a world of good.

The Rams come out aggressively on offense. They do not worry much about establishing anything. They do not dink and dunk and toy with you like they used to. They just come at you. Sean McVay loves to call some downfield throws in the first drive. A key play like this could turn the tide, just like it did against the Cardinals:

As the announcer pointed out, Murphy baited Stafford into making that throw. He has rolled out into the open field and had time to wind up and give it a shot. Murphy played off the receiver and then closed quickly and made a fantastic play.

Arizona then took the ball and drove the field for an early touchdown.

Using their aggressiveness against them can be a powerful tactic if executed properly.

The defense must have a couple of early stops in order to disrupt the Rams’ extraordinary model of complimentary football. If the Rams come out and move the ball at will and rack up a couple of scores before the offense can get their cleats laced up, it will be an uphill battle and a very long night.

Yes, the defensive line having a disruptive night would be a huge boost. 

But the play of Diggs and Adams will be critical.

Russell Wilson, get this monkey off your back

Wilson has just not had very good games against this Rams defense. In the last five games his play has resulted in something better than the league average for quarterback rating only one time. Even worse, in three of those games he had a rating below 75.

The Seahawks desperately need Field General Russ to show up Thursday, not Shrinking Violet Russ.

The Rams pass rush continues to plague this team. In the last five games the Seahawks have surrendered 20 sacks and 67 pressures. Unacceptable.

Even their biggest triumph against the Rams in Week 16 last year to win the division was far harder than it should have been. The Seahawks dominated the first half of that game but had three separate drives stall because of sacks at key times.

Are the Seahawks going to get a little opposition scouting from Shane Waldron on this Rams defense?

Can Waldron cure the Seahawks of their stubborn obsession with throwing deep against the Rams so much?

In the last five games against Los Angeles, the Seahawks are an awful 9-for-35 on deep passes with two interceptions and one touchdown. Add in those 20 sacks and who-knows-how-many throwaways stopping the clock and that plays right into the Rams’ hands.

Will the Seahawks show some humility in their game plan? Can they acknowledge that the Rams can take away some of the things they like to do?

Russ needs a combination of cool smarts, some Houdini magic to escape sacks and some simple options given to him to move the sticks and control the game.

Start with the run game. Get some short throws going. Find a tight end. Tell Russ to take off and run when he spots an opening (Kyler Murray converted a 3rd and 16 with his feet on this defense on Sunday).

If he is available, this game would be the perfect time to unleash Dee Eskridge with a small package of plays.

None of that means the Seahawks absolutely cannot throw deep. Yet in this game, against this opponent, the entire team, from Pete Carroll to Shane Waldron to Russell Wilson to the receivers, needs to be carefully calculated when it comes to deep throws.

DK Metcalf needs to have a game

He has slowly improved his play against the Rams, particularly in the last three games.

Jalen Ramsey and a bizarre offensive game plan erased him in Week 10 last year, holding him to two catches for 28 yards.

He had six catches for 59 yards in the Week 16 rematch.

In the playoff game he had five catches for 96 yards and two touchdowns but had a drop and was victimized by Darious Williams for a pick six at a pivotal moment.

Metcalf has yet to have a real signature performance in 2021. Thursday against the Rams would be a fantastic time for one, similar to what he did against Darius Slay and the Eagles in Week 12 last year.

The drops must stop. Russell Wilson, as good as he is, cannot put the ball in the perfect place on every single throw. There are going to be some contested throws in this game. Count on it.

Metcalf needs to win them, pure and simple. He might have the physique of a professional bodybuilder but he needs to strengthen his hands and his concentration if he ever wants to reach an elite level as a receiver.

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  1. TomLPDX

    Well done, Curtis!

    Let’s hope that DK does finally break through and win some contested balls…he needs to. What I’ve seen so far from him is average at best. Step up DK!

    • Roy Batty

      That’s what has confounded me since his arrival. The guy is 6’3” and has an insane vertical. People were salivating over the jump ball potential, but Russ and DK haven’t shown much. I would love to see throws directly over DK’s inside shoulder, about 3 feet above the defenders head. Jump, catch, ride the defender to the ground, or possibly YAC if he can keep his balance.

      It didn’t inspire confidence on the one jump ball where DK jumped waaaaay too early and looked pretty bad in the attempt.

      • Spencer

        I never liked it when people would attribute some with being a “natural pass-catcher”…

        but DK is actually showing that there’s a lot of truth to it. He has every tool to be elite at it, but it just isn’t there (yet…hopefully).

        • TomLPDX

          Tyler is a “natural ball catcher” and when the ball is even close to his proximity, odds are he will catch it even when diving out of bounds with 1 millimeter of grass left he will make the catch. Tyler is such a joy to watch week in and week out. If DK can move to that level and he will become the best of the best.

          Focus, DK. Focus!

      • pdway

        agree w Tom, above, DK has yet to show us that he is a go up and get it guy on contested balls. He’s still a physical mismatch and a monster in space, but going up and winning contested 1 v. 1’s – that’s what takes him to another level – if he’s got it in him.

  2. Troy

    These seem like great keys to the game. Basically, if the hawks don’t assert themselves offensively early, and establish a run game with a short passing attack in the mix, we will most likely lose.

    The thing is I just don’t think our defense is good enough to hang with the Rams O, so I think it really comes down to the offense doing their job, controlling TOP, running, sustaining drives, and most importantly getting points.

    DK having a break out and another vintage rus performance, along with Carson/Collins having a big game seems all like a must win to have a shot this game.

    • Malcolm R Collie

      It looks like the injury bug is hitting us pretty cruelly – no Eskridge, Carson not 100% (at best). Makes it harder to do what we need to do.

  3. Paul Cook

    Bingo. We just have to have a more ball control, time of possession, convert on 3rd down offense in this game. We need two halves of productive offense in this way. God help us if we start off either half with three-and-outs. One maybe, but not two in a row, or three out of four, or something like that. We’ve got to think of first downs like touchdowns. We’ve got to stay away from third and long.

    As far as our D goes…I have no idea. I only hope that they’ve started to figure some things out, that they’ve gained or start gaining some clearly identifiable mojo, that our coaching staff starts putting our personnel in the best possible situations for them to succeed. I just hope they have a better than expected game, that I’m somewhat surprised at the end of the game by their play.

    This would be a big win for us. It’s a home game with our fans. It’s a national spotlight game. It’s a division rival game. It’s a revenge game. I hope the Hawks come out fired up for it.

  4. GoHawks5151

    Great work as always. I know many have beat thus drum but again, The TEs need to be utilized. This D has been beat up the seam this season, including last week against the Cards. We have the athletes to do this soon. Dissly and Parkinson chipping on the edges and leaking out late is always a welcome sight. Also the TE screen to Everett maybe be in play

  5. James Cr.

    Curtis, you are to Seahawks Draft Blog what I can only dream Jamal Adams was for the Seahawks.

    • cha

      And I can dress myself, so I got that going for me too.

      But seriously, thanks.

      • clbradley17

        When are you going to display your 2k coffee mug? Between Rob and you, this is the best Seahawks content anywhere.

        • Rob Staton

          Thank you

  6. Tomas

    Great article, Curtis, appreciate it. Huge challenge for the Seahawks.

    • cha

      Thanks for reading Tomas

  7. Big Mike

    Outstanding as always cha. Thank you.

    • cha

      Thanks very much Big Mike

    • RugbyLock

      Good stuff as always Cha!

  8. Rob Staton

    Press conference today

    The Gerald Everett stuff was just bizarre. Not sure what PC was doing there with all that. I think he thought he was being funny.

    Nobody pressed more on Gilmore once he gave the stock answer. There was so much to go at there. Nothing.

    • cha

      That might have been the worst press conference I’ve ever seen.

      Is it possible PC was feeling tweaked about the Dugar and Hugh questions Monday, and with that condescending “Ok Mike, let me show you how to do your job” Everett sequence was acting out a bit? Trying to reassert some semblance of control?

      • Rob Staton

        Not sure — but it was a total misfire.

        The whole thing was bizarre. Like he’d done some tequila shots before it started.

        Awful press conference

    • pdway

      what was the Everett stuff?

      • Rob Staton

        You’ll have to watch it for yourself. To type it out would make me bleed from the ears

        • Sea Mode

          Cringe AF

    • Troy

      Ya just listened to it, the first lloyd christmas joke was actually funny, but then he kept doing that weird back and forth for what seemed forever…what the fuck was that?

      • Rob Staton

        I didn’t think the Lloyd Christmas reference worked at all.

        That line is supposed to be used when someone says there’s a minute chance of something happening.

        He used it to indicate there was a reasonable chance.

        Couldn’t even get that right

        • Troy

          I mean you are right, but he is basically a boomer using a meme, so I wouldn’t expect him to get it perfectly right “so you are telling me there is a chance”. He was adjacent to it so I figured it worked, but immediately after that it went straight into cringe/crazy town. And stayed that way for a while.

          If I was giving him the benefit of the doubt I would say he was just trying to be playful but you could tell the reporters were thrown off and didn’t know how to act, it def bombed.

          • Rob Staton

            The reporters were definitely in: “errrrr… okkkk” mode

    • Call Me AL

      Pete Carrol was being an arrogant jerk when answering the question concerning Gerald Everett question. I’m not going to go on a PC rant, but I honestly can’t stand hearing hearing him speak.

      • L80

        If PC coaches the way he addresses “the Press” we’re going to get blown out.

        Seriously, why play all the games about Everett. Just answer the question. Instead the same question got asked at least 3 times. Dreadful.

        Hawks need to let Neal play a bunch in this game, and they need to do the same thing the Rams do….Line up in a previously shown way, and do something different. And obviously, Don’t tip your hand on blitzes. If a casual fan can notice the things Cha mentioned about the Rams O-Line, the Hawks staff should be able to as well.

        Maybe someone should send them Chas write up.

        • Palatypus

          “If PC coaches the way he addresses “the Press” we’re going to get blown out”

          Predictable and soft?

          • Rob Staton

            Overly cautious, moody when challenged and all over the place?

  9. GlastoHawkUK

    Cha in this excellent (again) weekly preview emphasises priority one on offence run the ball. First week of October and it looks like RB1 & RB2 will not be available.
    We knew from previous seasons that Penny is rarely fit and Carson always misses games. Do we have enough in the locker, I am a big fan of Alex Collins and considered him RB2 at start of season, also think Dallas has some skills to bring to the game, we are going to need both of them at the top of their games against the Rams.
    What do we have behind these 2?

    • cha

      They haven’t announced any practice squad elevations for this game that I’ve seen.

      I’m surprised Josh Johnson hasn’t been brought up for this game, with Carson being questionable.

  10. Rob Staton

    Their investment and use of TE’s continues to confound

    • cha

      Ben Standig
      Washington is signing TE Jace Steinberger to its 53 off Seattle’s practice squad, per his agent,

      • Sea Mode

        Oh no, how ever shall we take the field for victory formation…?

  11. pdway

    Love that part in the piece where you point out the IQ and coordination among the Rams O-lineman. Feels like we never have that kind of cohesion.

    Coaching? Personnel? What do you think?

    • cha

      3 are mid range draft picks making good

      1 (Corbett) was a smart street FA signing

      The last is big free agent splash (Whitworth)

      • Blitzy the Clown

        So it’s the coaching then.

  12. Sea Mode

    Random side note: did anyone notice that DK is on the “hands” team for onside kicks…? 😬

  13. Sea Mode

    Anyone else think all the coaches/trainers jumping around and chest bumping looks absolutely ridiculous and totally PC-motivated? So phony…

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  14. cha

    Gregg Bell
    A new issue: Chris Carson has had a “long-term” neck “condition” #Seahawks have tested with and MRI, Pete Carroll reveals. It’s flared up this week, causing him to miss practices. He’s questionable to play vs Rams.

    And yet they celebrate him training by balancing one foot on a yoga ball with a giant chain around his lower back.

    Got some big brain stuff going on over at VMAC there.

    • Rob Staton

      This is really frustrating.

      Allowed him to spend the whole year with that clown of a trainer

      • Pran

        Big question is where is the contingency plan despite all the issues at RB over the years. Relying on another oft injured Penny?

    • Big Mike

      Gee, I don’t understand how that could put strain on a person’s neck. Total overreaction there guys’
      damn it, where is my sarcasm font?

  15. Blitzy the Clown

    Nice writeup. That clip of the Rams OL is just…so depressing. Why can’t our OL have that kind of cohesiveness? It’s not like they’re a bunch of bluechip players.

    Btw, anyone else concerned that Eskridge is going into his 4th week of unavailability? Is he still in the concussion protocol? If yes, isn’t an entire month worrying?

  16. Sea Mode

    Figured out what bothers me most about the recent PC pressers: the smug look of “I’m invincible and I know it.”

    • BobbyK

      Pete Carroll used to be fun. He’d go with youth. He initially built this thing the right way.

      Now he’s taken a lot of fun from being a Seahawks fan. He’s smug when he’s clearly made mistakes (Adams, Jamal) and has an annoying arrogance about him, rather than the fun guy when this started over a decade ago. The band-aids he applies to more serious issues on this team really irks me and how he patronizes anyone that dares question a move they make (which he doesn’t get enough).

      • Roy Batty

        “Always Compete” faded away long ago.

      • Tallyhawk

        He’s become a guy that’s hung on too long and is desperate for one last hurrah. The whole “reset” has been one poor decision after the other. When Holmgren retired he mentioned something about being coach somewhere for 10 years was as long as you should stay. I don’t know if that was coach speak but I’ve thought about that a lot the past couple seasons.

      • Rob Staton


  17. Blitzy the Clown

    Off topic but I just watched Cynthia Frelund’s “contender or pretender” analysis of the 2-2 teams going into Week 5. I must have a different definition of those words because she said that the Titans are contenders for her because they play in an easy division. To me, a team that makes the playoffs because their division is weak is the very definition of pretender.

    She also thinks SF are contenders because…wait for it.. George Kittle. Never you mind the raging dumpster fire at QB. The Niners will compete for the division and beyond because, again, George Kittle.

    By the way, I do agree with her that the Seahawks are pretenders, but not because of the OL.

  18. Call Me AL

    Another good write up Curtis! This game has several interesting story lines and should be a really interesting game to watch.

    The Seahawks offense has not been able to consistently execute the entire season. With the quarterback, offensive play and play calling all being contributing factors. Can they exploit the Ram’s weak linebacker play and effectively run the ball? Can the offense as a whole put it all together and have a complete game?

    The Rams defense is really good at taking away the areas of the field where RW likes to throw the ball. Can RW utilize his tight ends and be patient, take what the defense gives him?

    The Seahawks are going to need to pressure Stafford or this could end up being a long day. We know the Ram’s are going to attack our secondary and if Stafford has time to throw he will find open receivers. This is going to be a tall order as Curtis has already pointed out just how well the Ram’s offensive line has been playing. They have allowed allowed only three sacks and a small handful of pressures against good defensive lines this season.

    Back to the offense. The Seahawks offense may need to carry the defense in this game. RW has had some of his worst games vs the Ram’s. Again, can they/he put it all together and have a complete game?

    Who wins the DK Metcalf vs Jalen Ramsey battle? Agree with Curtis, this could be a key to the game.

    Chris Carson is questionable. If he does not play, can Alex Collins and DJ Dallas carry the load?

    The Seahawks use to always show up in big nationally televised games, do they still have it in them?

    • Mick

      I’m looking at this game as a chance to get back on track. We lost with the Vikings and the Titans and they weren’t losses to count with, so we have to get wins where we’re not really favorites.

      I think it’s the right decision to wait for Eskridge to be fully recovered, not worth taking risks and this doesn’t make him a bust. I’m a bit worried about Carson, but I believe we’ll see more of Homer.

      Otherwise, hats off to cha and Rob, it’s great to get such reads.

      • Justaguy

        I look at this game as a must win to have any shot at making a run at a division title. Underdogs at home against the Rams should make you nervous and lower your expectations

  19. dand393

    Awsome write up as always CHA I’d be interested in you joining Rob and Robbie on the live stream,
    Your always well informed and I look forward to your pieces every week

  20. Tomas

    Just listened to the AROUND THE NFL podcast, from London. Discovered that podcast three years ago, found the trio informed, genial, and humorous. Having sustained the loss of several loved ones in a few years span, grieved the loss of Wes, as did many. In my perfect, imaginary world, Rob becomes the new third member of the Podcast.

  21. Bankhawk

    I was musing on something, and wonder if I can toss it out there for fact checking and explanation. I am pretty sure that I had heard repeatedly that the Hawks were currently sitting on $10 mill. in cap space.
    If (and I do say if) this is accurate, what does the community reckon their thinking is when they still seem to have areas of the roster that could be addressed in ways that would benefit them in a ‘win now’ context.
    I mean, assuming this is true, are they just looking to roll it into next year due to the relatively small # of players that will remain under contract in the next off season?

    • Sea Mode

      I imagine they will have their eyes on the trade deadline, hoping a big name becomes available like years past. I mean, there’s no reason not to go all in on this season anyway with the Jets holding our pick and the standing with Russ and PC.

  22. Sea Mode

    Except it feels like more than just lip service when you actually land a few of the players that become available…

    Jim Nagy

    Carolina will “be in every deal” with Scott Fitterer as GM. He’s shown that in his first 8 months on the job. Learned that under John Schneider in Seattle. Guessing Panthers fans like the new aggressive approach.

    • Call Me AL

      Are you insinuating were getting lip service from Pete Carrol Sea Mode? Why that couldn’t be further from the truth and if you don’t believe it just ask him!

    • Norman

      Seems and odd thing to insinuate considering the number of such players (for better or worse) they’ve landed over the years.

      Since 2017, ignoring the more menial depth trades (Hollister, Sidney, etc.):
      D. Brown

      • Sea Mode

        Was referring more to this year, especially with regards to the CBs that have become available recently. Maybe I’m just tired of the stock answer from Pete, even if it’s technically true.

      • Scot04

        Adams nullifies all the positives in my book. Atleast for now.

    • Scot04

      Fitterer doesn’t have to deal with PC. Must be nice

  23. Justyn

    Huge game for DK.I think he’s been overrated for some time. His hands have always been an issue and if he can’t produce in games like today than we must stop talking about him being an elite receiver. I guess Ramsey will be feeling very confident against him. Hope I’m wrong.

    • Matthew

      He has an elite receivers body, but he doesn’t seem to understand it like an elite receiver. He always seems a little awkward. Doesn’t sense his body in space the same as true elite receivers. Seeing Julio Jones in the TN game, and even Josh Gordon the past year…they just move differently, more fluidly.

  24. UkAlex6674

    Another great post. For me we need to avoid drive stalling or drive helping penalties. It’s going to be hard enough as it is.

  25. Justyn

    Great post and always great content from Rob, Robbie, Curtis and co.

  26. Ashish

    We are not talking about Center yet which is good thing will that change tonight?

    • Rob Staton

      We could talk about it. Not good so far. Not unexpected unfortunately, either

      • Ashish

        I’m sure Donald will give reminder to Carroll but as a 70 year he will forget soon and give some BS to cover it. I mean my wife understand Donald is a threat and need to take care of it but Hawks has no plan for it.

        • Big Mike

          Waht, you don’t consider Fuller as a plan?

          • Mick

            I have a good feeling about Eskridge and I get why we drafted him, but when I see how Creed Humphrey is performing and how he is ranked 5th rookie by NFL, I start wondering how it would have been.

            • Ashish

              Eskridge is good player, but Creed would have made our offense better. RB and QB both would have appreciate it. Some reason Carroll does not like good center and give less importance. Remember they traded good center for Jimmy to make inline TE.

              • Scot04

                I would have preferred Meyers over Humphries, but thats just me.

  27. Paul Cook

    I totally missed that Urban Meyer incident till I read about it yesterday. I didn’t realize that he was on the hot seat in Jacksonville, or at least there at this time. Is he going to be an early coaching casualty? I know certain college programs (LSU, USC, Florida State, etc…) would probably be willing to overlook any of his image shortcomings to get their football programs back on track.

    • Big Mike

      I feel like if he’s smart he’ll tuck his tail between his legs and go to USC.

      • Paul Cook

        I think USC and its boosters would overlook just about anything at this point to get their football program back to where they think it belongs.

        There’s two programs that if they had the right athletic director and head football coach you’d think they’d become almost instantaneous and regular CFP and national championship contenders, USC and Texas. I mean, they’ve got the money, the tradition, the fan base, the recruiting base, the lure of Austin and LA, ample NIL opportunities…what haven’t they got?

        Like you said, Urban Meyer’s got to know this.

  28. Call Me AL

    Were just hours away from what might be one of the biggest games of the year for the Seahawks! As this game could go a long ways in determining just how good this Seahawks team is and just where their fortunes may lie this season. In light of that, here’s a few interesting things to consider prior to the game.

    The Seahawks offense is currently ranked #19 in the NFL in yards per game, averaging 107 yds per game rushing and 243.2 yds per game passing for a total of 350.2 yds per game. This statistic may surprise many of you, It did me. I expected this to be worse given how the offense can just completely disappear for long periods of games. Last weeks first half against the 49ers, case in point.

    The defense, this may also surprise some of you, especially Pete Carroll who sang the praises of how well the defense performed last week vs the 49ers after giving up a total of 457 yds in the game. 143 yds rushing and 314 yds passing. You may ask, how in the world did Jimmy (having what many described as a bad game) and Trey (who just plain looked lost in the game) put up that many passing yds vs the Seahawks defense? Does anyone really believe the secondary performed better last week? But, getting back to the point, the Seahawks defense is currently ranked last in the NFL giving up 444.5 yds per game. 152 yds per game rushing and 292.5 yds per game passing. Has there really been any improvement over last years defensive performance?

    Curtis did a very good job of listing key ingredients for a Seahawks win, so I won’t repeat them here. Given the level of play of the Seahawks offense and defense through the first four games, and the fact they are playing their year after year toughest opponent, its hard to imagine after a four day week that they are going to be able to pull this off. What exactly did Arizona do besides play very well on offense to slow down the Rams offense?

    The Arizona Cardinals were determined to blanket Cooper Kupp, taking away quarterback Matthew Stafford‘s favorite target. It’s a plan that proved quite successful. Kupp finished with just 64 receiving yards on 13 targets (5 completions) and Stafford completed just 26-of-41 attempts. We’ve seen a lot of volatility from Arizona on this side of the ball, but this performance earned a big climb in our Week 5 NFL defense rankings.

    Might the biggest key in this game for the Seahawks be taking away Stafford’s favorite target? If, and this is a big if, the Seahawks could do this, it might just level the playing field enough for the Seahawks to win what should be a very hard fought contest. Setting a positive tone and possibly a turning point for the rest of the season.

    • Paul Cook

      I just latched onto your aggregate offensive and defensive stats. Yeah, we’ve got work to do. I felt from the very beginning that this team was only going to go so far as their offense carries them. I felt like if we were going to be a successful team this year, we would need to be a top 5 offense and at least a middle of the pack defense. It’s more like we’re a middle of the pack offense and a bad defense by those numbers.

      We’ve just got to get better.

      • Call Me AL

        I don’t believe the offense is playing up to their potential. They should be playing better. The defense I’m not so sure.

        • Rob Staton


          • Big Mike

            Ditto. We may see an improvement on both sides as the schedule softens which will bring the defenders out of the woodwork. That’ll eventually get exposed tho imo.

            • Paul Cook

              I haven’t given up on the offense climbing back up the ladder near the top…yet. I am getting frustrated that I don’t see consistent schematic improvement there, though. Show me some more tempo, a more creative and diverse attack. Please.

              With the defense, it really boils down to two things to me. First, get the players in the right positions and roles to succeed. Second, we need some of our young talent to start blossoming, taking more consistent and convincing steps forward. We need a couple of players to really emerge as NFL talents.

              I don’t know if either of these things are going to happen to get this defense back to the middle of the pack. I have my doubts, but haven’t given up yet.

              • Paul Cook

                It just struck me. When was the last time one of our young talents/draftees on defense really emerged as a bona fide NFL talent/starter, someone you said that this position was taken care of, a potential pro-bowler at some point? At this time in time, Poona Ford is the closest thing to it, unless I’m forgetting something.

              • Rob Staton

                The only way the offense will get back to near the top is if Wilson goes on a tear of brilliance.

                They simply don’t have the OL, philosophy or coaching chops to elevate IMO. The depth at RB is now being severely tested and their WR’s are banged up.

                Going nearly a whole half with about -8 yards??? How TF does that happen???

                • Paul Cook

                  It really bothers me that we didn’t come up with one more bona fide talent for our offensive line these past two off seasons, either through the draft or FAcy. That was a clear mistake, IMO. Didn’t they remember the last game of 2020-2021 season?

                  Yeah, no doubt. RW has got to play at MVP heights the rest of the way this year.

                • AlaskaHawk

                  I’m not happy with Wilson or the rest of the offense. But Wilson’s QB rating has been great. So just based on that – it’s the rest of the offensive team that needs to improve. I blame at least one loss on not letting Alex Collins play. Here we are in a scenario where the easiest way to beat the Rams is control the ball with running. When the Seahawks went to the Superbowl they had the beast Lynch. Yes here we sit years later and still don’t have a really world class running back. That’s not to take anything away from Carson or Collins, but they aren’t a Derrick Henry or a Lynch. I guess I’m ranting about this because we do have some pretty good receivers so I’m not as concerned about them. I am concerned about the running game – and I thought that even Pete Carroll believed in that at one time.

                  Defensively – we just got to hope our cornerbacks and safeties will continue to improve. Switching Flowers out should lead to the single biggest improvement. Keeping Adams back in a thumper type tackling role should help coverage. But I think what we will see is that the Rams cornerbacks are better than ours, or at least have closer coverage. The line is never going to compare well to a line with Donald in it.

                  Call me a homer but I do have some hopes that Russell will be that game leader and the Seahawks will pull a win out of their tailfeathers.

                  • Rob Staton

                    Wilson still has areas he can improve

  29. travuw

    Great opportunity to get the season back on track today. Go Hawks

  30. James Cr.

    Eskridge placed on IR. He might just be done for the year if the concussion is that bad.

    • Matt

      Amazing streak we are on with top picks. Feel bad for the guy…this screams red flag for his career.

      • Paul Cook

        As Sea Mode would say…why can’t we have nice things?

        This is obviously a real bummer. I hope he’s going to be okay for his own life and well being. Are we sure it’s a pure concussion thing, and not a neck/spinal thing?

        We’ll have to wait and hear more.


      • 12th chuck

        what a shame. I agree, he will definitely be a target of defense and some hard hits. I cant believe the seahawks were as good as they were for so long when they constantly whiff on the early rounds of the drafts. Doesnt mean that Eskridge is a whiff, but it isn’t looking good

    • AlaskaHawk

      Darn it, I had hopes for him developing into that fourth receiver.

    • TomLPDX

      This is disheartening to me. I was really excited in the first game when D’ was playing really well. The fact that they put him on IR is scary.

    • pdway

      what does his going on IR functionally mean? Does it have a direct impact on when he can now return?

      • Rob Staton

        He misses at least the next three weeks

  31. BobbyK

    Can’t believe Chris Carson is going to miss an NFL game. Has that ever happened before?

    • Rob Staton

      The rumour is it has happened many times but not sure…

      • BobbyK

        Fake News?

        • Rob Staton

          Apparently he’s going to get Joel Seedman to arrange some workouts where he has to balance a dumbbell on his head, while standing on one leg, on a gym ball, while someone wafts him with a towel, to improve his neck muscles and get even more core work in.

          That’ll sort it

          • BobbyK

            Hahaha. Too bad Chris Carson isn’t going to be able to break the NFL record for consecutive games played. He was so close!

            • Rob Staton

              Quick reminder of all the people who said what a crazy cool workout this was…


              When in reality it was totally unnecessary, totally likely to get you injured and designed purely to get clicks on social media, from a trainer with a certain ‘reputation’ online

  32. DC

    What happened to Tre Brown that we drafted this year?

    • Rob Staton

      Been on IR

      • DC

        Geez, how many draft picks over the last few years does that make? Hardly any contributions from rookies anymore.

  33. Rob Staton

    Bloody hell

    I’m watching the fox coverage and you Americans don’t half hype things up in a ridiculous fashion

    That bit about McVay was cringe.

    Just talk about the game

    • Shane

      but the good news is we also have an excessive amount of commercials…. really hyped about this after all this.

  34. Matthew

    Can’t take anymore of Wilson’s legacy obsession. I can’t remember any all-time great even mentioning the word. They simply created it.

  35. Rob Staton

    Guess you all just saw Jay Glazer and Greg Olsen touting another Wilson saga this off-season and making it clear Wilson doesn’t agree with the team philosophy

    • Robbie

      Saw it!! Buckle up boys….we got some more talking points for tonights post game!

    • bmseattle

      quit making stuff up, Rob! 😉

      • Rob Staton

        I’m convinced there’ll be a day when Wilson is literally jogging out of someone else’s tunnel and there’ll still be Seahawks fans saying, ‘there’s nothing in it!’ 😂

        • bmseattle

          Until John Clayton admits there’s an issue, I refuse to believe it.

          • Rob Staton

            ‘Russell Westbrook isn’t being traded’

    • Rob Staton

      If you missed it:

    • Matthew

      Olson almost breathlessly conveying whatever Wilson told him to say. If there was ANY doubt, Rob was right, this should extinguish it.

      • Rob Staton

        To be fair, it’s not a ‘Rob was right’ type of situation.

        When people in the know keep spelling this out, you have to be completely blind to reality to not embrace what was going on. And what will go on again next off-season.

        The fact Greg Olsen was ‘willing to go there’ says it all.

        • Matthew

          Totally. Which makes it all the more surreal, and discouraging. The 710 crew…fine, they’re practically part of the organization. But guys like Greg Bell? SMH. You deserve the credit for demonstrating actual journalism, IMO.

          • Rob Staton


  36. Rob Staton

    Rams look all over the place

    • Rob Staton

      Or should I say Stafford

  37. Robbie

    hey look Dunlap covering the slot WR….oof! Unbelievable.

  38. bmseattle

    Blair doing things we are paying Adams to do.

  39. EP

    Is it just me or does Matthew Stafford look the spitting image of Elon Musk behind that helmet?

    • Rob Staton

      They do have a likeness now you mention it

  40. Rob Staton

    Alex Collins RB1

    • Blitzy the Clown


  41. Rob Staton

    Tyler Lockett has mastered the dark art of letting the official know when he receives any contact when running a route

    • bmseattle

      “the dark art”
      that’s brilliant.

  42. Shane

    Wasn’t there supposed to be a lot of pre-snap motion. Seems like very little movement.

    • downtownjewelrybryan

      back to being predictable

  43. Rob Staton

    A Deejay Dallas run on 3rd and 2 loses yards

    Colour me shocked

    • Rob Staton

      And a fourth and 2 run loses yards


      What the hell is this playcalling?

      • bmseattle

        so creative!

        • Rob Staton

          The last thing they’ll expect is the exact play that failed last time!

          Run it again!

          • bmseattle

            even worse, they had 3 TE, so it was even more obvious

      • Shane

        He cuts left and he has a first down. Just didn’t choose the hole right in front of him

        • Rob Staton

          Generous on the play call

          • bmseattle

            Lewis has been underwhelming so far this year.
            switch to the left side effecting him?

          • Shane

            Agreed. Don’t like the play call but could have had better vision. I say again, where is the pre-snap motion and creativity

      • Pran

        Leaving points on board
        Leaving Floyd on 3rd down unblocked

        • Rob Staton

          Why not have Coby Fleener try and block Floyd… but have him start behind Floyd and try and block him… from behind…

          • Pran

            Someone staying in the lane of Floyd is enough.
            Pete must be thinking he has LOB to leave points

      • Rokas

        Looked like a pretty light box to me, at least they went for it.

        • Rob Staton

          Aaron Donald >>>>> any description of the box

      • SeaTown

        You just saw Shane Waldron get neutered by Pete. Waldron is nothing more than a yes man.

        • JG


  44. Blitzy the Clown

    Collier just wasting a game day roster spot

  45. Rob Staton

    Beautiful sack by Darrell Taylor

    • Submanjoe


    • Rob Staton

      Defense immediately wastes it

      • bmseattle

        The middle of the field is wide open, every play… like all season

        • bmseattle

          If I’m the Rams, I have no fear throwing every play against our defense.
          Even if we make a play here or there, we will inevitably give up a big play right afterward.

      • Rob Staton

        I’m sorry but who the hell is setting this defense up???

        How is that blown coverage a thing? Brooks on Woods? Brooks not even running with him?

        I could complete that pass.

        Jesus wept

    • HOUSE

      Agreed… Without jinxing him, this is what I was hoping we would see from him. I was a bit concerned with the “move” to LB, but I’d love to continue seeing his growth and progress

  46. SeaTown

    Someone let me know when the PeaCock shows up.

    • Rob Staton

      Don’t worry he’ll make a tackle later or get a sack on a blitz and the internet will anoint the trade a roaring success

    • Blackthorn


  47. Matt

    This is just textbook coaching incompetence. We truly have the most inept coaching staff.

  48. Submanjoe

    Great play by Diggs

  49. Rob Staton

    Stafford isn’t very good

    • Pran

      That’s Goff

    • Hawk Finn

      I was just going to praise Diggs for bailing out the defense, but I fear your statement is far more accurate

      • bmseattle

        that was great awareness though. something no one else in our secondary seems to have.

    • Rob Staton

      Both quarterbacks playing like ass

    • Denver Hawker

      It’s a bad throw AND a great play on the ball.

      • Rob Staton

        Well, I guess.

        But it should never ever ever ever ever be in the range to be played.

        It should be in row-M in that stand

  50. SeaTown

    I’m not looking to rag on Waldron. Seems like a nice guy. But seriously what is different about this offense as compared to the last several years? I see nothing innovative.

    • 12thseattefan

      Which begs the question, if the offense looks the same every year with different coordinators, who’s offense is it really?

      • Rob Staton


  51. bmseattle

    are we going to regret not paying Diggs?

    • bmseattle

      he’s gotta be annoyed seeing what Adams got, when he knows he’s the better player.

  52. Rokas

    At least I love the effort today, guys play like their arses are on fire.

    • Rob Staton

      Really? Can’t say I’ve seen anything noticeably different there

  53. Gary

    Great pick. But if not for the turnover, that 4th and 2 play call is directly responsible for Rams points.

  54. downtownjewelrybryan

    poona with the pressure!

  55. dand393

    That’s two plays in a row Collins has missed massive holes to run through

    • SeaTown

      Which begs the question: why are they basing the game plan around Alex Collins? He’s a journeyman. Let Russ cook.

      • Pran

        Did you see the INT

        • SeaTown

          Yea better just run the rest of the night.

  56. Pran

    That’s a poor placement of ball by Russ.

    • Rob Staton

      Forced it

  57. KiSB

    The commentators said that it would be a good time for Adams to make a play. When the Rams were in the red zone.

    I’ve been thinking this all season.

  58. Pran

    As poor as we are playing, color me happy seeing Rams not whipping our ass yet

    • Rob Staton

      Rams do not look good at all

  59. bmseattle

    why not test our pass defense there?

  60. Denver Hawker

    Looked like that blitz disguise caused the delay of game as Stafford tried to adjust the play and ran out of time.

    • Rob Staton

      The two linebackers dropping right at the end of the play clock definitely spooked the center

    • bmseattle

      Norton outthinks McVay… again.

  61. Rokas

    Russ is looking very decisive today.

    • Rob Staton

      Again… really???

      He’s been hesitant AF on some throws. Plenty of people at the game saying he’s not throwing when guys are wide open.

      Glad for the TD drive but still

  62. dan

    Once again, DK, Big Man, BIG play

  63. HOUSE

    Much better drive there. Russ definitely seemed more settled in on the Lockett (PI play) and the TD throw to Metcalf. Let’s settle in here

    • Rob Staton

      Much better from RW

      Tyler toasted that guy, deserves the stats

      That’s how to use DK

  64. Blitzy the Clown

    Two nice receptions for Metcalf where the pass itself wasn’t contested but he held on to the ball through a hard hit by the defender after the reception.

    Good to see.

  65. Pran

    I wonder at times if Russ is not unleashing the full potential of Lockette

  66. bmseattle

    that slant to DK should be run 8 times a game.

  67. OP_Chillin

    Entire DL got moved 5+ yards that last run.

    • Pran

      Wagner with a missed tackle

      • OP_Chillin

        Yuck, they are driving the defense back on these runs.

  68. OP_Chillin

    DJ reed has had tight coverage. So refreshing from the soft crap we’ve been seeing.

  69. Blitzy the Clown

    Oh my Collier just made a tackle. Seven yards beyond the LOS.

  70. bmseattle

    Adams is worthless in this role.

    • SeaTown

      The PeaCock doing nothing. Again.

  71. downtownjewelrybryan

    im trying not to look at adams

    • bmseattle

      he’s easy to miss

  72. Blitzy the Clown

    Al Woods totally blew his gap assignment on Michel’s first down run.

    • Blitzy the Clown

      But then he redeems himself!

    • AlaskaHawk

      And made a great play on third down stop. Loved the way he took down the Michaels.

  73. OP_Chillin

    Is it early enough to use the tiredness excuse for the D? I really don’t think so. McVay has basically taken the ball out of Stafford’s hands, they should know what to focus on.

  74. downtownjewelrybryan

    he’s like a car wreck, can’t help but look and see what this clueless guy does next

  75. AlaskaHawk

    LA chickens – they should have gone for it on 4 th down.

  76. OP_Chillin

    Barring a bad turnover now, this has been a good half for the Seahawks considering the incoming expectations.

  77. Rob Staton

    That Stafford finger injury is huge

    (Yes, Goff’s thumb etc etc)

  78. Rob Staton

    Bloody Dallas celebrating his play as the clock runs

    • Rob Staton

      What an utter waste of time that was

      • OP_Chillin

        Horrible. Blew 30+ seconds to run the ball!?!

  79. KennyBadger

    Is the defense better when adams is simply playing CF?

    • Rob Staton

      Generous review

  80. Blitzy the Clown

    What a pretty pass to Dallas. Russ settling down nicely after a jittery start.

  81. Rob Staton

    Aaron Donald. Got to respect his talent.

    But he’s a dirty ass MF

    • bmseattle

      he really is

    • AlaskaHawk

      I would laugh like heck if they called every hit he made an illegal one. It would be worth it to watch him go ballistic after the third call.

  82. OP_Chillin

    Ugh had time for three plays if they did that right but now only one before having to spike.

    • bmseattle

      not great clock management

  83. OP_Chillin

    That was a damn soft call!! WTF

    • Rowdy

      That should be called 30 times every game if that’s a penalty

  84. bmseattle

    tough call.
    they let that go, usually.

    • Matthew

      They let it go multiple times last when Dunlap was essentially tackled multiple times.

      • 12th chuck

        3 plays, 2 in a row last week smh

  85. Blitzy the Clown

    Nice to see Damian Lewis pump up the OL in the huddle.

  86. OP_Chillin


  87. Rob Staton

    What an awful kick

  88. AlaskaHawk

    Wow, God has spoken! The Seahawks are not worthy. LOL

  89. Rob Staton

    Still can’t believe they wasted so much bloody time after that Dallas catch then ran the ball for four yards to waste even more

  90. Tony

    I’m happy we’re not getting destroyed. I still think rams go off in 2nd half. Hawks usually a 1 half team, so I expect regression coming.

    • Rob Staton

      Based on that half, the only thing stopping the Seahawks roll away with this is the Seahawks

  91. AlaskaHawk

    Looking at the positive, if Staffords finger injury makes them run the ball alot more, we only have to defend the run.

    Looking on the negative, We can’t stop the run.

    It’s bend but don’t break time.

    • Rob Staton

      I’m happy with how they’ve defended the run overall.

      They’ve given up some yardage but hasn’t felt overwhelming.

      Stafford playing with a bad finger could/should be a game-changer

    • OP_Chillin

      Unfortunately haven’t looked great stopping the run. I will say that despite the 7 points the offense isn’t struggling as much as it did in all three games last year against the Rams, which is refreshing. They gotta put some points on the board on their first possession though.

  92. OP_Chillin

    Rams don’t have a lead going into the half so the game isn’t a guaranteed win for them 🙂

  93. AlaskaHawk

    Diggs and Reed are playing well.

    Russell has been effective passing but the offensive line needs to block better. Overall I wish they would develop a consistent running game.

    Looking at the stats, the Rams controlled the ball almost twice as long as the Seahawks.

    • 12th chuck

      I am overall impressed with the way the secondary has played. actually seen a few pbu

    • OP_Chillin

      Only one (non-penalty) QB hit though. Pretty nice.

  94. Blackthorn

    Rams looking a lot like…well…us. Weird conservative offensive play-calling and poor execution on both sides.

  95. Victor

    What a terrible game managment by the Seahawks in last drive

  96. OP_Chillin

    Russ goddammit throw that shit away

    • Brik

      I’m so sick of Russel doing that crap. He had a guy he could’ve at least tried throwing to. Good think Dickson is a beast

  97. AlaskaHawk

    Oh for god’s sake. You got to throw that ball away. Back to bad old habits.

  98. Matt

    Just stupid by RW. Really, really stupid. Sometimes I think he’s just not very smart.

  99. Tony

    Russ killing a drive on his own again.

  100. KennyBadger

    Big Dickson.

  101. OP_Chillin

    An unsettling number of wide open receivers so far…

  102. Robbie Williams

    Playing WAY to soft on 3rd and 2!

  103. Matt

    How many busted coverages do we average a game?

  104. Matthew

    The flip side to Wilson working magic out of a broken play. Refusing to let a down die, and throw it away. I wonder if we’d be better off at this point if he could take the small stuff, and let a down go without taking a sack. It was 2nd down!

  105. OP_Chillin

    JAMAL. You have to be kidding me!

  106. SeaTown

    There’s the peacock!!

  107. HOUSE

    68 yards on a 3rd & 10… WTH???

  108. AlaskaHawk

    OH Adams, why are you in the backfield?? Just a spectator.

    • AlaskaHawk

      You know, the Seahawks may be paying Adams 10 of millions of dollars. But I think they should pay him even more.

      By buying him a season ticket and telling him to sit in the stands!!!!

  109. bmseattle

    holy jamal adams!

  110. dan

    Big Play Jamal!!!

  111. Rob Staton

    Oh my

    • Mac

      Adams is a police officer, he can only help after a crime has been committed.

  112. downtownjewelrybryan

    haha! guess who?

  113. Matthew

    Adam’s part of a big play. The wrong side of it. I hate to ruminate on the past, but that weirdo Ear would have intercepted that for sure.

  114. OP_Chillin

    That should have been a goddamn interception. Outstanding.

  115. dand393

    Wow Jamal adams just made the big play, oooooops I mean he was on the wrong end of the big play shocker!!!

  116. Leo

    Careful everyone, if you even think of saying Jamal was crap on that play then your fan card will be revoked.

    • Leo

      I’m already seeing people online saying it wasn’t his fault because he wasn’t expecting Stafford to underthrow the ball so badly. I can’t remember another Seahawk who was so protected from blame.

  117. Tony

    Well, atleast they didn’t milk the clock. Adams made sure of it.

  118. dan

    Wrong Troy, that was definitely Jones fault again, just ask Pete.

  119. DC

    96 yard drive

    • Tony

      But the special teams look great!

  120. SeaTown

    I’m Sure Pete will blame Sidney Jones.

  121. 12th chuck

    if I ever become an o coordinator, I will target adams every play

  122. EP

    Adams just looks lost when he’s asked to cover. Looks like Poona Ford dropping in coverage

  123. bmseattle

    Ok… so Jamal has no awareness of where the ball is in the air… and he can’t catch.
    Sounds like it’s time to start blitzing him again!

    • downtownjewelrybryan

      how do we convince him to blitz on the sideline

  124. Blackthorn

    Not only did Peacock blow that play, but he didn’t hustle to get back into the mix after the reception. His show has grown old so gd fast.

    • bmseattle

      I saw that.
      I thought maybe he was hurt he was moving so slowly.

  125. AlaskaHawk

    Hmmm the Rams defense looks energetic, and I’m guessing our defense is tired.

  126. KSB

    If the Hawks didn’t give up so much to acquire Adams and make him the highest paid Safety in the league.

    Would he still be starting on this team?

    He’s looking like a real liability out there.

    Hope Russ is OK

  127. SeaTown

    Broken finger?

    • Rob Staton

      Looks dislocated

    • HOUSE

      dislocated at the top joint. Should be able to get back into place, but could really affect grip and throw. DAMMIT

    • Seahawkwalt67

      Looks like extensor tendon injury which would be 6 weeks in splint. Hope not..

  128. Rob Staton

    And… it’s Geno Smith time

    • SeaTown

      This season just ended.

      • Rob Staton

        It’s 3:16am and I’m about to watch my team play Geno Smith at quarterback

        • SeaTown

          That’s pure roster incompetence

    • bmseattle

      we finally get to reap the rewards of the yearly, diligent search for a promising backup QB

    • EP

      If it’s Geno time for Seattle it’s bedtime for me.

    • MychestisBeastmode

      Jets fans are elated right now.

  129. OP_Chillin

    If russ is out, pack it up

  130. sgtPeppy

    I’ve had that injury before. Looks like a torn ligament, that’s why it’s stuck on the bent position. 4 weeks in a splint, think we’re gonna see a lot of Geno :(((

    • Seahawkwalt

      Torn extensor tendon.. 6 weeks splint

  131. Matt

    At least we could end up with a high 1st round pick…

    • HOUSE

      That goes to the Jets as part of the Jamal Adams trade… THANKS for reminding me of that horrible deal!

  132. Redzone086

    Mallet finger, also known as baseball finger, occurs when some impacts the tip of a finger or thumb and forces it to bend further than it usually goes. As a result, you are unable to straighten the tip of your finger or thumb because of the injured tendon.

    • Redzone086

      Recovery. It should take 6 to 8 weeks for your finger to heal, after which time you’ll be able to use it again. You may be advised to continue to only wear the splint at night for up to 4 more weeks.

  133. EP

    Would rather watch Wilson throw left handed than Geno at all

  134. Rob Staton

    Great hit there by Jamal Adams on Jordyn Brooks

    • HOUSE

      The Adams trade continues to get worse

    • Rob Staton

      Then gets beat in coverage

      • bmseattle

        i detest him

  135. OP_Chillin

    Defense falling apart.

  136. dan

    Another big play by Adams!

  137. Blackthorn

    Yep! It’s laughable!

  138. OP_Chillin

    Adams just getting destroyed out there.

  139. SeaTown

    The Peacock strikes again!!

  140. James

    whiff… #33

    • James

      jeeze… he’s a liability.

  141. Blackthorn

    I can’t help but just focus on the Adams train wreck. He has shit the bed so many times in this game!

  142. Rokas

    Horrific 3rd quarter

  143. dand393

    At what point can Pete honestly say ok he needs to be benched I mean I understand it’s admitting defeat but he is an actual liability

    • SeaTown

      Benched? At what point do we Percy Harvin him? He’s terrible. They made a mistake. A huge franchise altering mistake. Fix it.

    • James

      I don’t know whether to be mad at him or mad at Pete for how he uses him…at any rate, it’s pure incompetence of the highest order and I wish it ould be different. I don’t revel in watching this trainwreck.

  144. Robbie Williams

    Jamaal Adams sucks!

    • SeaTown

      He needs to be Percy Harvined ASAP.

  145. 12th chuck

    we should be looking for an 18 mill a year safety to see if its any better

  146. Leo

    Maybe Adams will finally feel some heat now that’s he been disaster in prime time. But nothing I’ve seen from his time here suggests he’s going to take that criticism like a champ and get better. Much more likely to pout.

  147. Troy

    There’s the highest paid safety making his presence known

  148. EP

    Jamal Adams stinks. Plain and simple. Fair play to him for his time at the Jets. Absolute failure thus far in Seattle. I do feel for him though, it must be hard being allergic to the football. Runs about like a bull in a China shop and manages to smash absolutely 0 tea cups or plates.

  149. Matt

    Absolute tragedy that this will be RWs last season here. So sad.

  150. HOUSE

    Russ is out there… 100% HEART

    • AlaskaHawk

      And 100% stupid. He’s going to get urt even worse.

      • HOUSE

        Yup… Sometimes stars need to be saved from themselves

  151. Tony

    Open the floodgates lol. Shit is about to get real.

  152. AlaskaHawk

    It’s starting to look like a scene from a bad movie.

  153. KennyBadger

    Big Dickson.

    Maybe the Seahawks can just play first halves. Tiddly winks at halftime under Pete.

  154. HOUSE

    That Dickson kick… lol

  155. Ishmael

    Is Dickson the best player on this team outside Wilson? It’s pretty close

    • AlaskaHawk

      Yes that was great. The most consistent Seahawk in his play. Amazing the way he pins teams back .

  156. SeaTown

    I’m also tired of hearing about how tough it is to play in Seattle. The home field advantage left with the LOB. This team has no advantage at home.

  157. Shane

    How is Adams always seems to be just off a big hit or a yard away from any play…

  158. Robbie Williams

    hahaha, Adams just tackled DJ Reed

  159. Canadian Hawk

    Seahawk coaches – once again losing the adjustments at the half game.

  160. Troy

    Back to the same old shit. Offense with 15 yards and defense can’t stop anything.

  161. OP_Chillin

    Did we seriously get outgained by 200 yards in a single quarter?

    • James

      I feel like I’m watching a house fire. It’s okay though, this era had to end somehow. Just wish it didn’t have to drag out for half a decade.

  162. 12th chuck

    geno warming up, end of game. we suck again

    • Troy

      Yep. That’s a fractured finger for Russell Wilson

      • 12th chuck

        8 weeks

  163. BigSmooth13


    • bmseattle

      too late for that, sadly

  164. AlaskaHawk

    The yardage of the RAms in the third quarter is frightening.

    I’m not seeing much hope when Russell has a bum hand and the offensive line can’t block.

    • Rowdy

      At least he will have an excuse for not playing that good now

  165. Leo

    I’d be terrified of being on Jamal’s team, he’s more likely to knock me out with a big hit than the opponent. Have seen him smash Brooks and DJ already

  166. OP_Chillin

    Geno in. It’s over.

  167. SeaTown

    The Geno Smith era has begun. Game. Set. Match.

  168. michael e lust

    Train wreck

  169. Shane

    Why all the negativity??? All we need is a PI every third play

  170. Rowdy

    A quick timing pass holy shit, I thought the coach’s wouldn’t call those plays

  171. Dc

    If brooks gets benched for bad play then shouldn’t Adams?

  172. Hawk Finn

    Ok, I’ll say it. Offense looks better under Geno. 😈

  173. OP_Chillin

    Uhhh. Geno moving the ball better than russ this half?

  174. bmseattle

    Finally! A tall, pocket QB to run Pete’s offense!

    • Rowdy

      Instead of russ refusing to run it

  175. Big Mike

    Pete now has the perfect excuse for a losing season plus the bonus that media will focus on Russ’ injury after this game rather than the play of the peacock.

  176. SeaTown

    On the positive side. If Russ is out for any length of time and the season really goes in the toilet, maybe Pete will retire.

  177. dan

    Wow we all of a sudden have a qb who can throw to TEs!

    • James

      I literally thought the same thing out loud. Maybe this is exposing some of Russ’ bad tendencies.

  178. AlaskaHawk

    I was going to make fun of Geno, but I’m impressed so far.

  179. Troy

    If Geno wins this game I’m gonna lose my shit

  180. Rowdy

    Instead of russ refusing to run it?

  181. 12th chuck

    I stand corrected, I hope this lights an fire in defense

  182. michael e lust

    Geno, Geno, Geno!

  183. Robbie Williams

    WHAT IS HAPPENING!!!!!!!!!!! Gobsmacked!

    • Mac

      Welcome to the upside down.

  184. Rokas

    Can not believe that it ended with 98 yard drive lead by Geno Smith

  185. Blitzy the Clown

    Geno MF Smith! Cool as you please.

    And wasn’t one of cha’s keys to the game DK breaking out?

  186. OP_Chillin

    Munching on some crow already.

    Where were the throws to the TE, quick passes over the middle, etc? I think we finally have a chance to see the answer.

  187. Rowdy

    Is smith showing us that wilson is the problem with not being able to run the offense and being 1 dimensional?

    • Tony

      Geno is our Kurt Warner. The dynasty starts today. Lol

  188. Blackthorn

    Welcome to Bizaarro world, friends.

  189. Canadian Hawk


    No matter how this ends – almost felt like a Rudy moment.

  190. Shan


  191. Rokas

    If my boy Doug Baldwin is watching this, i bet a dime he’s enjoying

  192. Tony

    Maybe we should bench our outspoken stars…neal in for adams. Geno in for rw. Lol

  193. Leo

    Geno stepped up in the pocket, used his TEs, stayed on schedule, scrambled. That was the nicest drive I’ve seen in years! Maybe it will be a wake up call for Russ, just take what they give you!

    • Troy

      Seriously, that was fucking TEXTBOOK. I’m sorry but if Geno can be that effcient going forward, I’d take him over Rus. I don’t need Rus spinning around in the pocket and 1 out of 10 times making a big play, give me the safe boring plays 100% of the time and get yards.

  194. 12th chuck

    I must have run into Rod Serling and didn’t realize it WOW

  195. Seahawkwalt

    I like how Gino attacks the middle of the field

  196. Matthew

    I know nothing. But Geno Smith looked good. Nice having a QB p it there just running the offense, and taking what’s there. Been wondering what it might be like, for better or worse.

    • James

      Both QBs are going up against the same defense, yet Geno took the simple, straightforward approach. Russ just keeps trying to make the big play I feel.

  197. bmseattle

    offensive line likes blocking for a guy who stands in the pocket.

  198. Troy

    Time for the defense to do it’s part!!!! Just once…

  199. Troy

    This fucking defense….

  200. OP_Chillin

    Defense has given up 350+ passing yards at over 10 YPA

  201. Gary

    Somewhere Earl Thomas and Kam Chancellor are being ill.

  202. Troy


  203. Zane

    Are our two highest-paid players our biggest liabilities?

    • Tony

      I hope so. That would be very fun to see the media react.

  204. Troy

    How can receivers be THAT open. ???

    • Tony

      Scheme. And lack of good players for the specific scheme. Tre flowers wasn’t the whole issue, now that hes out teams move to the next issue.

      • 12th chuck

        lack of pass rush I think is the biggest issue

        • Tony

          No doubt a big factor. Bad cb play too. It’s all bad really.

  205. DC

    Wet toilet paper

  206. Hawk Finn

    Wonder if Geno can play S

  207. Tony

    Yes, show me more Geno. appreciate the quick work by defense getting off the field.

  208. 12th chuck

    what an embarrassment of a defense. How the hell can a defense head coach have such a bad d

  209. Rokas

    Dunlap might be washed up

    • Mac

      Or was the beneficiary of a super soft schedule.

  210. Troy

    457 yards allowed by the defense

  211. OP_Chillin

    The offense is just functioning so much more smoothly with Geno.

    • bmseattle

      he seems good at picking up the blitz, throwing screens, and using the middle of the field!

  212. bmseattle

    kinda need to move faster guys

    • AlaskaHawk

      They lucked out with the Rams injury, and now the tv timeout. Lets score quickly!

  213. Submanjoe

    Out with my lady at a bar watching the game. Thinking. Why is Wilson great. Watching Geno move the ball downfield executing plays, makes me wonder.

    And Jamal is a joke

  214. KennyBadger

    I am absolutely rooting for him but let’s remember geno smith is a terrible quarterback.

  215. DC

    I’m thinking Pete is letting Waldron do his thing since RW is out? Didn’t have this offense since week 1

    • OP_Chillin

      Come on man. The only change was the QB. Sometimes the simplest explanation is the correct one.

  216. Submanjoe

    Crazy to see a seahawks qb step up in pocket and throw the ball

  217. Troy

    Not sure what Rob thinks of this opinion, but honestly having a QB that is just taking what the defense is giving them is refreshing as fuck. Rus is ALWAYS looking for the big play, just fucking take the first downs when they are there, maybe Rus can learn a thing or two from Geno

  218. Troy

    Who has any confidence in the defense getting a stop (3 and out)????

    • DC

      Pete does of course

  219. Troy

    ABSOLUTELY pathetic

  220. AlaskaHawk

    Oh yes, stupid of them not to run again.

  221. Tony

    Geno winning this makes so much noise. Lol God this would be amazing

  222. 12th chuck

    what a goddam shame

  223. OP_Chillin

    Bad luck/#4 bumped lockett?? Not too bad on Geno

  224. Matt

    Admirable fight but the season is done. #3 will probably be out for 2-3 months. Felt like today was the official time of death for this franchise.

    • bmseattle

      i think we can beat pittsburgh with Geno

    • Tony

      Geno looked better than rw has all year. Rw a better player, but geno looks like a good vet qb with better scheme fit possibly. I would love to see geno an extended look. But no way rw sits. He loves records, and snapping that game streak is probably a huge deal to his own goal of being the best ever.

  225. Tony

    That trip on lockett was just more rw magic. Geno marches down wins game and exposes rw. Lol

  226. Leo

    We went from Angry Doug and Beast Mode to Freddie Swain and Tyler Lockett flopping for PIs. We are a finesse team in every way now

    • 12th chuck

      Hopefully it will mean the end of Pete. That’s what got Ruskell fired, over priced fa signings that couldn’t play, and an inability to draft. I am so sick of this defensive scheme, it doesn’t work, and hasn’t for the last few years

  227. 12th chuck

    if Wilson is out 8 weeks, do we go after Cam Newton?

  228. Peter

    Love this site but some of y’all are drinking ethanol tonight if you think geno…just took what was given….

    A career sub 60 percent compmetion rate and 1 td and 1 int tonight is not taking what “is given “

    • Matt

      Geno played admirably…but yep, he’s Geno Smith and RW
      Is a first ballot HOFer.

      • Matthew

        I’m more surprised by how bad Wilson looked running the same offense, than what Smith did. It’s the contrast more than anything. Wilson for the longest time just seems to think 2 birds in a bush, is better than 1 in the hand.

  229. Blackthorn


  230. Palatypus

    Lookie here Johnny. Pa’ has got to put ole’ Yeller down. Tell lil’ Sally he went upstate to live on a farm.

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