Duane Brown OUT vs the Cardinals

It’s quite incredible what’s happening at this late stage in the season. The Seahawks are dropping like flies. At this point, any kind of win against the 4-9-1 Cardinals will be an achievement.

And if key players aren’t able to return next week against the Niners — a bye week and playoff success will be mightily difficult.

For more on the injury/suspension crisis, read yesterday’s post.


  1. line_hawk

    Hope this is more precautionary. They should sit a lot more than guys vs Arizona. That’s a meaningless game in the big picture.

    • Rob Staton

      It is not a meaningless game.

      The bye week is an absolute must. Losing against Arizona might not prevent the Seahawks winning the NFC West but it could easily put them in the #3 spot.

      • Trevor

        Agree completely that bye week is critical given the injury issues this team has right now. Unfortunately it might not be realistic given how short handed they are.

        If they do give Pete coach of the year and Russ MVP.

        • Rob Staton

          It’s also critical for any chances of being a realistic threat in the playoffs.

          #3 seed = one home win, two road wins (probably) needed to make the SB

          #2 seed = one home win, one road win (probably) to make the SB

          #1 seed = two home wins to make the SB

          Forget 7-1 on the road. It doesn’t matter. In the playoffs, winning on the road is VERY hard. Look at PC’s and RW’s road playoff record compared to home record.

          If we’re happy with 11-12 wins and call it a good season, that’s fine. But now we’re two home games away from the #1 seed, you can’t help but want a little more. That doesn’t mean I expect a SB or anything. Giving ourselves the best shot to achieve that, however, is something that would be worthwhile. I’ll never forget the 2016 season when we blew the #2 seed by losing to the chuffing Cardinals at home. The difference between playing Atlanta at home or away in the playoffs with no bye week was MASSIVE that year. We never really talk about what a missed opportunity that was.

  2. charlietheunicorn

    Brown has been dealing with the injury since mid season. If he needs the rest or needs to time to get right, then they are doing the right thing. Seattle always takes care of their guys over potential playoff implications.

    Oddly enough, the OL has some depth… Fant, Pocic, Haynes, Jones and Roos should all be available. And from the limited snaps earlier in the season, each of these guys can provide a stable OL against the Cardinals… allowing RW to do what he does best.

    I also have this funny feeling, RW will show why he is worthy of the MVP in the next 2 weeks. Thank the gods we have that guy at QB, because otherwise all hope would be lost. When you are down multiple starters (7 or more) and get wins (no matter how you do it) is always impressive.

  3. Ashish

    This might be blessing in disguise. I would go with Pocic at center and give Hunt some rest to heal up. I’m sure we can win with backup might not be easy but we don’t have easy games do we.

  4. Frank

    I wonder what lessons the Hawks front office takes from this. The last couple years have definitely scene a concerted effort to establish depth, but often with aging veterans or people that where available only because they are above average injury risks. Certainly Penny, and Griffen are outliers in the prime of there careers as far as health goes, but the rest are either old or high risk or both. As much as it’s something we don’t like to talk about here, the offensive line has been really bad this year bye any team’s standers not named the Seahawks in the league. I really hope this is the wake up call they needed, and they attack the oline in the draft like they did receivers last year, and a throw in a decent RB. Luckily most pundits are in agreement it’s a strong draft for both positions of need.

    • Rob Staton

      1. No the O-line has not been ‘really bad by any team’s standards’. I wish people would stop talking rubbish about the OL.

      2. Shaquill Griffin, Mychal Kendricks, Quandre Diggs and Jadeveon Clowney are NOT old. Neither is Tyler Lockett or Will Dissly or Rashaad Penny. This has nothing to do with age.

      3. How do you propose they ‘attack the O-line’ in the draft? Is this finally going to be the year where that elusive franchise left tackle lasts until the late 20’s or early 30’s? People who think the draft is a cure-all solution are usually the same people who moan about James Carpenter and Germain Ifedi.

      • Frank

        I’ve never been against Ifedi or Carpenter and hope Ifedi returns. Simmons and Jones have both flashed potential, and is too early to write Haynes off. Brown is obviously getting older, but hopefully he can play another year or two and possibly mentor a developmental project. Even without advanced analytics, a casual observer that Wilson constantly faces pressure up the middle (the last place you want it from) faster that the opposing QB almost every week. I hope we have the same Tackles next year, but Iupati and Flucker need to go if we are planning on maximizing Wilson. Britt needs to be replaced likely, so realistically could need three new starters, even if Haynes, Simmons, Jones are going to start, they would need backups and PC likes competition.
        You attack the draft by throwing multiple picks at it during the draft. We’ll have three 2nd round picks, would it really be a waste if 2/3 of them where interior offensive lineman?
        Kendricks and Clowney are at least past their prime, Dissly is starting to fall into the higher risk category for injuries, Lockett is a short term injury that I wouldn’t worry about.
        You can’t replace the entire line in a year, but does anybody think Iupati, Flucker have more than a year left in them, or Brown more than 2-3? Might be better to act before all three retire at once.

        • cha

          Clowney are at least past their prime

          Good grief.

        • Rob Staton

          I just feel like I end up repeating myself on this.

          1. The line has nowhere near been the disaster you’re suggesting. Wilson has had a near MVP season. He hasn’t been running for his life every game. People easily forget how bad things were 2-3 years ago. This line has been decent. Not great but certainly decent. And the emphasis more than anything is on size and run blocking. That’s where Fluker and Iupati excel.

          2. They have consistently seen major improvements to the line by plugging in veterans. If you draft two rookies with the intention of starting them, then you will not enjoy the results. They’ve been training up Phil Haynes and Jamarco Jones anyway. They’re just as likely to start instead, if not more.

          3. Who are you even drafting? Who are these guards that are worth first or second round picks? It’s all well and good saying ‘draft O-line’. Who? Let’s have some names. Who are these starting caliber plug-in-and-play guards?

          4. Clowney is past his prime? He’s 26 Frank. Kendricks just turned 29. No, they are not past their prime.

          5. Even if they replace Iupati and Fluker it’ll more likely be with guys on the roster already or different veterans. They have clearly shifted philosophy and want a more experienced line. Sweezy, Iupati, Fluker.

          • Frank

            Wow, it seems like Clowney has been I the league forever to only be 26. 29 to me is getting old in a hurry zone on Kendricks, although not nearly the same zone as Fluker, Brown, or Iupati. I personally don’t think Jones or Hunt has the athleticism to make it for any period of time beyond emergency.
            Jedrick Willis, Natane Muti, Tyler Biadasz, Logan Stenburg could be possibilities. Maybe it’s just a sore subject, but it doesn’t seem unreasonable to consider it as a possibility. There’s some time to burn before the combine, I don’t see the harm in getting to know the offense line prospect, d line or even RB. Maybe it’s a great year for receivers, but so is every other year lately and we can’t field 53 wr on the team.

            • Rob Staton

              Willis is overrated and Biadasz a center. I’ve not watched the other two. But Willis and Biadasz don’t to me look in any way a solution to an overstated problem.

              Seattle simple has bigger needs than OL and that will remain the case until we see what they do with the pass rush and what happens with Ifedi & Fant.

  5. Paul Cook

    We need the offense to really get back into gear. I’d like to see the offense get out of the gate fast against the Cards, play with a little urgency on offense in the first half.

  6. Volume12

    My 1st time seeing Liberty WR Antonio Gandy-Golden in live action. Very intriguing.

    • Volume12

      Another small school wideout. Arkansas St WR Omar Bayless. Wanted to like him more than I did. Not bad by any means. Far from it. However, doesn’t look to be a great athlete and I didn’t see much to get excited about during the Georgia tape.

    • Trevor

      Looking forward to seeing him at Senior Bowl.

    • Eli

      Been meaning to bring him up, he’s a nice big bodied guy (6’4″ 220lbs) a la Josh Gordon. When watching him one thing that really stood out to me about him was – and maybe this isn’t the right word for it – suddenness. Seems like at times he’s able to just stop on a dime and let a defender blow past him.

  7. Bankhawk

    Current woes remind me just how against to the leagues proposal to add even a single game to the season going forward I am!

    • Rob Staton


    • Jeff M.

      It boggles the mind that they can’t reach the obvious win-win compromise and add a bye to play 16 games in 18 weeks.

      Better for player safety, lets them put byes around all the Thursday night games/London trips, better product on the field, and still gives the broadcasters an extra week of games to show.

      • Rob Staton

        That’s too much common sense for the NFL.

  8. Coleslaw

    Duane Brown is a huge loss.

    I’m still not worried. This season has been all Russ. Idk why people dont think we deserve to be here. We have Russell Wilson entering his real prime. Just like the Packers had Rodgers in his prime, Brees, Ben, Brady, Manning, etc.

    Russell Wilson is the reason we’re 11-3. Hes the reason we win close games. We live and die by Russ this year, just expect that. Anything the defense does is just a bonus. But always know Russ will keep us in the game.

    PS. Russ also clearly likes Schotty’s offense and is only finishing his 2nd year in it. I think with the expanded playbook for the playoffs and the next 2 weeks, we will be prepared for any team we face. It should be a fun ride!

    • Paul Cook

      I agree with you about RW being out team’s MVP by a long shot, and the reason why we won so many close games the first half of the season. But it was actually our defense that outplayed RW and the offense from the 49er game up until the Carolina game. Without Tyler Lockett and Dissley for targets, RW’s production and play-making fell back a bit.

  9. mishima

    IMO, need to win the next 2 to have any chance of a playoff run.

    Time for depth to step up and contribute.

  10. Canadian Hawk

    I know it’s early – but Rams have taken an early lead.

    This may have already been covered, but In the event:

    LA > SF
    Sea > Arizona

    and next week:

    SF > Sea

    Who wins the division?

    • Rob Staton


      • Coleslaw

        Are you sure? I believe it would come down to strength of schedule where GB/WAS has a worse record than MIN/PHI. We should have that tiebreaker

        • Denver Hawker

          It comes down to strength of victory. To win that tie-breaker, ball has to bounce perfect. Need Minn to beat GB and Phil to beat Dallas. Then need NO to lose to Tennessee.

        • Greg Haugsven

          We have covered this a few times. It would come down to strength of victory. In this scenario all of our victories would be the same except three. New Orleans, Green Bay, and Washington for the 49ers and Philly, Minnesota, and Atlanta for the Seahawks. Right now here are the three records for each team.

          GB, NO, Was…25-17
          Phi, Minn, ATL…22-20

          So we are down three games. We need wins for our teams and losses for there teams.

          Remaining games.

          NO…@ Titans, Panthers
          GB…@ Minn, @ Lions
          Wash…Giants, @ Cowboys

          Phi…Cowboys, @ Giants
          Minn…GB, Bears
          ATL…Jaguars, @ Buccaneers

          If strength of victory is also tied it then goes to strength of schedule which we only have two different games. Green Bay and Washington for the 49ers and Minnesota and Philly for us. Right now here are those standings.

          GB and Wash…14-14
          Minn and Philly…17-11

          Right now we would win this tie breaker if it comes down to it. It would only make it to this tie breaker if strength of victory is also tied.

  11. cha


    //I need a shower

  12. Paul Cook

    I’m a Husky homer. I back my Huskies and Husky players. But Jacob Eason is just not near an NFL yet in spite of his arm talent. He absolutely needs another year at the college level, needs more reps, more experience, needs to prove he can win the big game, be clutch.

    Having said that, he’ll probably go pro and somebody will pick him.

    • CHawk Talker Eric

      Huskies are steamrolling BSU though. Total domination along bth sides of the LOS

      • Paul Cook

        Go Huskies! Send Coach Pete off on a high note.

  13. CHawk Talker Eric

    So that means Fant steps in at LT? Not the worst back up. Though it sucks losing him as a 6th OL in the running game.

    • Gohawks5151

      True. But Jamarco Jones been out on the edge as an extra TE and looked pretty good

      • charlietheunicorn

        Fant, Pocic, Haynes, Jones and Roos should all be available. They will be fine.

  14. CHawk Talker Eric

    BOW DOWN to Washington!

    Congrats to Coach Petersen and the 2019 Washington Huskies!

    • Paul Cook

      Even though it was a minor bowl after a disappointing season, still great to see them send out Coach Pete in such a convincing manner.

  15. Rob Staton

    This isn’t the type of game I was hoping the Rams/Niners game would be.

    Airy-fairy passing game shoot-out. Very little physicality. Not exactly taxing on the Niners whatever the outcome.

  16. charlietheunicorn

    garbage rams

    (:58) (Shotgun) J.Garoppolo pass deep middle to E.Sanders to LA 23 for 46 yards (J.Ramsey).

    • Rob Staton

      Awful rookie mistake from Taylor Rapp.

      Not that it mattered this game really for us but it’s still frustrating simply for the momentum of going into next week.

      • Paul Cook

        Bad mistake by Rapp, but it wasn’t like Ramsey’s coverage was any good at all either. He’s supposed to be a stud corner.

      • charlietheunicorn

        I wonder what type of long term damage this season will do to the Rams. Lack of draft picks, limited cap space, GM/HC combo…. I just don’t see them as SB contenders, but they will remain dangerous.

        At least, Seattle still controls their destiny. Go 1-0 each week.

        • Rob Staton

          I just wish we could find a solution when playing them

    • cha

      Rams deserve to lose if they can’t defend TWO 3rd and 16’s with their season on the line.

  17. Pran

    Pete is saving for game of the division vs 49ers and hoping Russ will see them thru vs Cards.

    • Robert Las Vegas

      First of all that was a terrible play by Taylor rapp where the hell was he at .you are right about the fact it sure wasn’t physical Jimmy G getting sacked 6 times is pretty interesting . for some reason I am truly concerned about this cardinal game.chandler Jones could be very challenging. Sometimes I really wish the NFL would entertain the thought of expanding the roster one or two guys I mean on the active roster just a thought

  18. neil

    Well the 49er game is over. One can only hope the Hawks have a good game tomorrow. Even so, I am not optimistic about week 17. As I recall Emanual Sanders did not play in the first meeting. Our banged up backfield trying to cover Sanders, Kittle and Utech in the middle of the field might be too much too overcome.

    • Rob Staton

      Sanders played but left hurt.

      Kittle didn’t play though.

  19. Pran

    Rams miss play offs.. Hawks back contending for division. Division is going to be even more tougher next season?

    • Rob Staton

      Who knows what’ll happen next year? I didn’t see the Rams going 8-7 this year. Didn’t see San Fran at 12-3 either, or us at 11-3.

  20. Kelly

    With all the injuries and suspensions I would be surprised if we didn’t end the season with two straight losses and playoff loss at Dallas for the second year in a row.

  21. Sea Mode

    Enjoy the playoffs from the couch, NFL darling Rams! And they already are missing their R1 pick this year and next, Goff’s cap hit balloons from $10m to $30m next year, and they still have to pay Ramsey. Good luck…

    (On a side note, I only watched highlights, but Goff made several impressive throws on the move outside the pocket. Gotta give him that, at least.)

    Though, as Rob noted, it wasn’t a particularly taxing game for the 49ers physically, at least hopefully the Rams putting up points on them has given Schotty film of plenty of weaknesses for Russ to exploit. I think their secondary lacks a little speed, and Lockett and Metcalf most certainly do not…

    Go Hawks!

    • DC

      Is Ramsey 2 1st round picks better than Peters???

      Nice one Rams! 🐑 💩

      The Ravens are happy about it.

  22. Kingdome1976

    That was a pretty good game last night. I simply hate the Rams so I reluctantly was kinda routing for the Niners. I still can’t believe the Niners are this good. I remember thinking they were probably going to be an 8-8 team or even less at the beginning of the year. Good job on the draft picks and free agency. Good coaching as well.

    I noticed that Goff did a bunch of bootlegs last night and for the most part it worked. Russ seems to sit in the pocket more than I like when playing the Rams. I hope we take notice.

    • AlaskaHawk

      I enjoyed the game also. One thing I noticed about both teams is their ability to run screens. Seemed like a steady diet of screens in the first half. Both teams looked pretty poor at defense that half.

      Second thing I noticed is how resilient and scrappy the 49ers are. Last week it was the catch and run by Kittle to end the game. This week it was two 16 yard third down conversions.

      The Seahawks need to bring their A game the next two weeks.

    • Coleslaw

      I’m honestly not that impressed anymore. I think they’re overrated. Definitely a playoff team but I think they’re a lot closer to Pretenders than Contenders. If we beat them they’ll be .500 in the 2nd half of the season. They almost lost to Arizona twice, the Rams, Steelers, Saints, and only put 9 points on the Skins.

      Their D is being exploited heavily. Their cracks are showing. Garoppollo is not elite. Kyle Shanahan is elite, Kittle is elite, Juscyk is elite. Nobody else on that offense scares me. Jimmy sucks under pressure. If you can stop the misdirection and get pressure on them they fold.


      • Coleslaw

        Make those 5 games Ls (each easily could be) and we beat them they’re a 7-9 team.

        • Coleslaw


        • Kelly

          You could say the same for us.

          • Coleslaw

            Yeah, you could. What does that change?

  23. Coleslaw

    Just realized the Cardinals were 1 hail mary away from making the super bowl and that wouldve made the NFC West the NFC champions 5 of the last 7 years.

    NFC West still has made the superbowl over 50% of the time in the last 7 years. Very good chance for it to happen again. Couldve been 6/8 years NFC West in the superbowl. That’s crazy..

  24. Volume12

    Seeing quite a bit of jr’s returning to school. Think there’s gonna be a lot fewer than the past couple seasons.

    Add W. Forest’s Sage Surratt and Carlos Basham to that list

    Not sure why this TE class gets a bad rap. Is it because there’s not a headliner?

    • Volume12

      * the jr’s

    • Sea Mode

      IMO, it’s not just the lack of headliners, but really overall talent just isn’t there this year at TE. Who knows, maybe one of the small school guys pops a bit at the Sr. Bowl, but even then I’m not sure I’ve seen anyone I would take before R3. (and yes, that includes Hunter Bryant for me)

      I think Purdue’s Brycen Hopkins is the best of the class, followed by Oregon’s Jake Breeland (though he’s an older prospect coming off of injury). Oregon St. Noah Togiai is an interesting day 3 guy to me just because of size and athletic potential.

      Still have a couple more names to look at, but up until now, there’s just nobody I like all that much.

      • Volume12

        I actually think it’s super solid with a lot of different skill sets. Agreed about Hopkins.

        Just because there’s not talent at the top doesn’t mean its not good. The ’19 WR class was a classic example of this.

        Vandy’s Jared Pinkey is very good. Same with Michigan’s Sean McKeon and Portland St’s Charlie Taumoepeau. Saw that those last 2 made the SR bowl, decided to take a look, and like what I see quite a bit.

        IMO Late day 2 through Rd4 &5 are gonna be loaded with good TEs

        • Sea Mode

          Haha, those two exact guys you name at the end are the ones I added to my list to look into. As well as Central Michigan TE/QB Tony Poljan, whom Brugler rates highly. We’ll see.

          Pinkney (I knew someone would misspell it in that way at some point… 😜) is a big boy and did have good production in 2018, but his size limits his mobility and his blocking (I watched vs. Georgia 2019) seemed just ok to me, which is kind of what you are hoping to get with a bigger TE. (Speaking of big bubbas, have you looked at Octavious Cooley from Ole Miss?)

          Agree that there will be some guys late day 2 + day 3, but I do still think it’s a sub-par class. Hopkins is the only one who shows any real athleticism on tape to get me excited. And I have yet to find a good blocker outside of Breeland.

          • Volume12

            McKeon is an excellent blocker. Probably his biggest strength.

  25. Edgar

    I’m hoping this is just Pete knowing they can win this game even resting all nicked up players. Other top teams have zero guys on their injury report while we have 12-15. We’ll see what today brings, and then we can react accordingly right? Go Hawks.

    Here’s to Metcalf and Lockett both having multiple TDs and over 100 yards each-

  26. Volume12

    *shocker* 9ers @ Hawks has been flexed to Sunday night next week.

    • charlietheunicorn

      The only legit match-up week #17, everything else looks rather bland.

  27. CaptainJack

    GO HAWKS!!!!

    Even though the chips are down let’s pull for our team!!!

  28. Volume12

    Let’s go Titans!

    They got something in Tannehill. Has to be in the running for Comeback player of the year, yeah?

  29. Volume12

    Stop comparing Lamar Jackson’s running ability to RG3. Not the same at all. He doesn’t even take the same type of hits and I’m not convinced he ever will.

  30. cha


    Clowney, Diggs, Shaquill, Ursua, Duane Brown, Haynes, Swoopes

    Sounds like Kendricks tested well in warmups

    Aaron Levine tweeted Jamarco starting at LT.

  31. Kenny Sloth

    CGJ just headshotted a Titans receiver, knocked clean out, then tapped him on the head when he stood up

    • icb12

      That was pretty ugly.

      Titans driving, dude gets knocked clean out from a headshot, ball falls from his unconscious hands,. Saints pick it up as a fumble.

      Basically the game right there. Ugly.

      • Coleslaw

        I thought that shouldve been a penalty.

  32. Sea Mode

    “He’s loose!”

    • Sea Mode

      We rollin’, boys. Either just super well-scripted by Schotty, or the Cards are pretty much done for the year.

  33. CHawk Talker Eric

    Helluva start today!

  34. Eli

    Seattle playing the long game and finally unleashing their secret weapon, Nick Bellore

  35. Volume12

    Russ with 69 (nice) TD passes in December

  36. Trevor

    Great start I hope they can keep it rolling. Jemarco Jones is a legit NFL starter.

  37. CHawk Talker Eric

    Riddle me this: why would the NFL choose to broadcast the DAL-PHI game in Southern California instead of the NFCw matchup between ARI-SEA? Both games are out of market but at least there’s a sensible nexus for the Rams market with division rivals SEA and ARI.

    Well anyway it annoys me

  38. Trevor

    Wtf was that. Man Drake can fly. Great pickup by Arizona.

    • Sea Mode

      When he’s healthy, he’s good.

  39. CHawk Talker Eric

    WTF is that?!?!!

    • Hawks4life

      An accurate representation of our defense

      • Sea Mode

        Not sure what’s up with the heavy blitz on their very first offensive snap though…

  40. Sea Mode

    Whelp, so much for that good start…

  41. CHawk Talker Eric

    Way too many fumbles on tackles. Second one of the game for SEA fortunately both were after the player was down by contact. But still. They need to clean that up

  42. Hawks4life

    Pound that ball its 1 yard pete…

  43. Sea Mode

    Giants over Redskins to OT and Washington wins the #2 pick I think.

  44. CHawk Talker Eric

    Yeah that 3rd down call…🤨

    • Volume12

      That was a head scratcher. Run the ball! Carson is averaging almost 7 yds a carry so far and has been Seattle’s best player on either side of the ball the last 3 weeks or so.

    • Rob Staton

      Poor call. Just run it. Over-thinking it there.

      Also meant we would’ve avoided the melodramatic meltdown on Seahawks Twitter.

  45. Coleslaw

    Marquise Blair wouldnt have let Drake score… Why isnt he starting!?

  46. CHawk Talker Eric

    Great punt. Why wouldn’t you use Carson to grind out the first down? Even if he doesn’t make it at least it’s the right call.

  47. Paul Cook

    Yeah, a few curious calls there by the Hawks.

  48. CHawk Talker Eric

    Queem! Aaaaarrrrgggghhhhhhh!

    • Sea Mode

      Had him! Great move by Murray, though.

  49. CHawk Talker Eric

    Whatever intensity they had to start is gone. The offense suddenly looks lethargic, predictable. What the hell is going on?

    • Hawks4life

      Yes very uninspiring play since the first drive

    • neil

      Typical Hawk Cardinal game, you really didn’t think it was going to be easy, did you ?

  50. CHawk Talker Eric

    If you let Drake get to the second level…man watch out

  51. CHawk Talker Eric

    They’ve completely abandoned the run game. Why? It’s a tie game early barely in the 2nd quarter

  52. CHawk Talker Eric

    Let’s keep calling these long developing pocket passing plays. That should work 🙄

    • Sea Mode


    • Volume12

      Like 5 or 6 in a row. Seems odd with a patchwork O-line.

  53. Hawks4life

    What a sloppy mess we are, its unbelievable how little composure this squad has at times.

  54. Paul Cook

    Just win the frigging game.

    • Trevor

      +1 I don’t care how ugly as long as it is a W and no more injuries.

  55. Troy

    Brown being out is starting to really show itself with Jones

  56. Trevor

    Chandler Jones is still really good. Exactly the type of player the Hawks defense has lacked since Avril got injured.

  57. AlaskaHawk

    Carson looked good early. Thank goodness the Seahawks found him. I was thinking that Carson, Lockett and Metcalf, make up the bulk of this offensive production. If they can just get one more receiver or tight end to step up the offense could be really good. I have some hopes for Holllister and Dissley when he recovers.

    Anyway – I agree. Pound them with running plays and wear that defense down. The defensive line is just teeing off to get at Wilson. Three sacks already.

  58. Volume12

    Was he supposed to cut that back?

  59. Hawks4life

    With the pressure the cards are getting on us they decide to call that play on 3rd down with procise running it… complete head scratcher

  60. CHawk Talker Eric

    Omg I’m about to lose it. Why on earth would you sub in Prosise for Carson? Inexplicable

    • Sea Mode

      Carson looked a little shaken up on the previous play IMO.

  61. Paul Cook

    Okay. Some real questionable calls. Prosise running straight behind our weakened left side of the line on a third and one. Hmm…

  62. CHawk Talker Eric

    I know Murray is elusive but Kendricks blew that sack. Just came in totally out of position and out of control.

  63. Volume12

    What a play

  64. Rik

    Fairly pathetic display of play calling on offense after that first drive. And I cannot even think of the right words to describe this weakened defense.

    • cha

      They just called for Jarran Reed to drop into coverage


  65. Coleslaw

    I dont even care lol. Just win next week and we’re set.

  66. Hawks4life

    I’m surely going to miss Fitz whenever he does hang it up, one of the best to ever do it. Well deserved boos coming from the fans. Let’s see if the offense can play at a NFL level this drive.

  67. Rik

    This could get away from us pretty quickly. Even with their poor punting, they’ve been winning the field position battle. Time to get the ball out quickly and score points.

  68. Rik

    Russ just gave up a first down by running sideways into the defense???

  69. Sam

    We are a shell of our former selves.

  70. Volume12

    Budda Baker is cracking dudes in the mouth!

    • Volume12

      Probably why we ain’t seen much of Carson

  71. Rik

    I don’t think we’ve converted a single third down today. That’s tough for a team that plays like the Hawks.

  72. Paul Cook

    Injuries…yes. But, excepting the opening drive, an utter stinker of an offensive performance all the way around

    • Volume12

      I kinda think that punt on 4th &1 that they took the delay of game call on killed the momentum they had.

      • Kelly

        I still cannot believe what occurred on that sequence. What in the world were they thinking.

        • Paul Cook

          Yes, that was a total WTF?

        • Volume12

          Playing not to lose instead of playing to win

          • Paul Cook

            That was so effing wimpy.

  73. Paul Cook

    If Prosise is injured again, let’s just rename him “Glass”. I’m done with him. He just can’t stay healthy.

    • john_s

      I will never understand why they kept procise who they never were going to re-sign over Bo Scarborough who they would’ve had rights to for multiple years

  74. Kelly

    Hmm imagine that. A coach showing some guts.

  75. Paul Cook

    I kind of don;t get that TO by the Hawks there? Am I missing something?

    • Kelly

      I don’t agree with it at all. Make them execute under pressure.

  76. Volume12

    That TO Seattle took when ‘Zona was out of them was flat out stupid. What. The. F**k?!?

    • Sea Mode

      No idea.

  77. Sea Mode

    Incredible hands by Larry. I think that stands.

  78. Pran

    Great call Pete on that time out.

    I am officially mad and super pissed about this offense. Russ has regressed to a 2nd string QB. It’s one man Chris Carson show and May be Lockett.

    Defense is bad but the offense has consistently given up field position with pathetic play.

    • Hawks4life

      Can’t blame this offense on Russ… terrible protection for starters yes hes had a couple bad plays when he should have thrown it away but nothing drive changing. Lockett has been invisible. Definitely not 2nd string, stop that talk

      • Pran

        It’s not just this game for Russ, we have been seeing this past 4/5 weeks. He is #1 paid in the entire NFL, definitely would expect an elite QB play. Murray outplaying Russ.. Damn.

  79. Volume12

    Im pretty sure Seattle hasn had like 1 play go for positive yardage in 6 drives.

    • Rik

      O line is getting their asses handed to them on every play.

      56 net passing yards for Russ in the first half. He’s not playing like a franchise QB today.

      • Kelly

        Gotta remember 3/5 of our O-line is backups atm. They know they can get pressure with four and we have a 4th string RB in the game. They are rushing four and playing downhill hard with the safeties. Buddha Baker is looking like a beast. Also doesn’t help that we have zero athleticism and speed on defense.

  80. Paul Cook

    Let’s be real. We look like one of the worst teams in football today.

    • neil

      Look on the bright side. At least we won’t have to watch them lose a third Super Bowl.

  81. Volume12

    I love PC and always will for what he’s built here, the players he’s found, his ability to tap into whatever it is inside of a player and unlock greatness. And I know this team is banged up and hurt, but his play calling during games leaves a LOT to be desired. Hamstrings his teams at times.

    • Paul Cook

      He could have used some help from analytics there. Hell, you didn’t even need analytics there. The risk/reward on that 4th and one was so clearly evident in the Hawks favor.

      We’re probably going to need some luck (turnovers and the like) to pull this one out. We might be too decimated to come back otherwise.

    • Volume12

      IDK what it is.

      Coincidental, stubbornness, set in his ways, not panicing and just roll with what’s always worked, not enough speed defensively, not having quite enough yet offensively, but sometimes these young HC’s just appear to coach circles around him.

      • Kelly

        I can’t remember which game it was. But there was a 4th and short we didn’t convert and he’s been overly conservative and gun shy since.

    • CHawk Talker Eric

      The difference between him and Belichick is Bill doesn’t make in game mistakes like these. Otherwise, they’re of a caliber. Hard to argue Bill isn’t better — he’s certainly had more consistent success — but Pete’s his peer.

      • Volume12

        I don’t disagree there.

  82. CHawk Talker Eric

    I hope the start Fant at LT to start the second half. Jones has been getting smoked.

  83. Tony

    Let’s be real. This team is too decimated with injuries to go far. This was a flawed team that found ways to win. But can you really expect 3/5 of the OL to be backups, half your secondary out, your best DL, top 3 RBs out, down to your 4th TE. This team at some point cant over come injuries. At some point russ cant bail us out. And it’s totally understandable. Championship teams typically are also the least injured. This season it’s all ravens anyways. I see no one beating them.

  84. jopa726

    Chis Carson has a hip injury and is out. C.J Prosise has a arm injury and is out. Hello darkness, my old friend.

  85. Hawks4life

    I’m just grateful we dont have to listen to Booger or Charles Davis today haha.

    • Sea Mode


  86. Paul Cook

    I’m very close to emotionally packing this one in. You know, trying not to get bent out of shape. LOL

    • Pran

      Yep.. this team is one and done in play offs. Can’t even enjoy with this limping in to playoffs.

  87. Kelly

    Had about of enough of Moore.

  88. Sea Mode

    Just when you thought…

    • Kelly

      They score a TD here it’s over.

  89. Pran

    Moore means less. just like Kearse Russ targets him more for less. At least Kearse had some amazing plays.

  90. Paul Cook

    In the last 4-5 games or so, RW has been regressing into that pattern of holding onto the ball too long. He’s not quite the artful dodger as he was early in his career. He’s got to give his receivers a chance to make a play. Get it out Russ.

  91. Volume12

    Seattle is so desperate for quick shots in the arm on punt/kick returns.

    Go get Jalen Reagor or Brandon Aiyuk

  92. Sea Mode

    And once again will we be bailed out by facing yet another backup QB…?

  93. Pran

    With out running game and a bad defense.. what to expect Sunday night?

  94. CHawk Talker Eric

    Nice to see Homer get done carries despite how he got the opportunity.

    • CHawk Talker Eric

      Some 🙄

    • Volume12

      He’s played very well

  95. Sea Mode

    We would rather face Philly than Dallas, right?

    • Kelly

      I would rather face GB or Philly rather than Dallas.

  96. Pran

    Why the hell they are not calling some designed run plays for Russ

    • neil

      It has been the thyme all year. Russ runs less !! Don’t know if that is a coaching decision or RW’s ego kicking in. Maybe he has to prove to himself and everyone else he can be a pocket passer. If that is the case, he has really hurt the team.

  97. AlaskaHawk

    I would hate to see Hundley lead the Cardinals to a win. Come on now!

  98. Sea Mode

    Man, Mone should have at least gotten the pancake in…

  99. Kelly

    Continuing the trend of making backup QBs look like all stars.

  100. Volume12

    Rasheem Green with another huge play. Splash play specialist at this point. Man. If he can do this consistently? He can be special.

    • CHawk Talker Eric

      Looks like he’s made that sophomore step

  101. Sea Mode

    They seriously have some tells on our OL or something. They know exactly where every run is going.

    • Pran

      3rd and 3 and you are giving the ball to Homer who is a 4th stringer is all you need to know about this offense.

    • CHawk Talker Eric

      One of the worst performances by the OL this season.

  102. Pran

    Great play by Green.
    Our offense is Homer.. such a sad state. Russ not even trying…

    • Sea Mode

      What can Russ do? He turns around out of his drop and there are 2 guys in his face every play.

      • Volume12

        Soon as he plants that backfoot. Has he even had a semblance of a clean picket?

      • Hawks4life

        Yeah I’m not sure what more you want. The constant down talk of Russ isn’t warranted. We get it you feel he’s regressed to a 2nd string caliber player. How about we talk about the lousy play calling and execution today

      • Pran

        I am sorry to say take some pay cut and give it to get top dollar OL then.
        Seriously, OL is never our strength and it’s not like Cards have an elite DL that Russ can’t make plays.

        • Sea Mode

          Did you watch the first 8 games?

          • Pran

            That’s half a season ago and feels like forever. It’s the same OL too except for Brown…

  103. Henry Taylor

    When was our last first down? I genuinely dont remember.

  104. Volume12

    Your down 13, put the ball in your playmakers hands. Carson or Penny in there? A little more understandable.

    • Kelly

      I get they don’t want the Cardinals just teeing off. But is it time to get some play calls in there that put it on Russ’ shoulders?

      • Volume12


  105. Paul Cook

    Okay. Let me get this straight. You run your 4th string running back behind your 2nd string LT on that key 3rd down? WTF is going on here with our play-calling, or lack thereof?

  106. Volume12

    That looks like a fumble to me

    • CHawk Talker Eric

      He didn’t complete the reception by making a football move

  107. Sea Mode


  108. Sea Mode

    Ugh, you have to know they’re going to Larry on a key 3rd down.

    • Paul Cook

      Ouch! We were getting the MO back too.

  109. CHawk Talker Eric

    Horrible call that will be reversed. How could the ref miss that?

  110. CaptainJack

    Injuries caught up to us.

    Tight end 1, running backs 1-3, three linemen out. Too much to overcome.

  111. CHawk Talker Eric

    Strong game from McDougald. Again

    • Hawks4life

      Agreed love his play and veteran leadership

    • Sea Mode


  112. Kenny Sloth

    Regardless of the outcome: Yikes

  113. CHawk Talker Eric

    Crucial clutch FG if they’re gonna have a chance

    • Sea Mode

      Nah, still tons of time left. (got it anyways, though)

  114. Paul Cook

    Man, our passing game is just not clicking of late. At least we got three.

  115. Pran

    Our defense sucks even against backups.. god bless us in playoffs

    • Pran

      They are killing clock and moving ball.. what a mess.

  116. CHawk Talker Eric

    The tackling 🤦🏻‍♂️

    • CHawk Talker Eric


  117. Paul Cook

    Ugh. We’re getting bled now. Tick, tick, tick…

  118. Neil

    Try as they may, the 12s cannot will the Hawks to a win anymore. Looks like the home field advantage is gone forever. I feel compelled to say again, I hope RWs reluctance to run this year is not a personal decision. I hope he is not just trying to prove to himself and everyone else that he not just a running QB, but a pocket passer as well.

  119. Matt

    This team is getting murdered in their first playoff game. Don’t care about injuries, this is an embarrassment. This team wins inspire of its coaches. What an awful game plan, everywhere, today.

  120. Paul Cook

    Our defense is spent now. Horrible display of tackling that last drive. Oh well. The hounds were bound to catch up to us.

  121. Volume12

    I liked Pete’s answer at the half about the offense.

    ‘This just doesn’t look like us.’ How bout on D coach?

  122. Pran

    Hundleys revenge game is it.. I am not sure how would Russ, Bobby and rest of the crew can sleep tonight. I

    • neil

      Russ will probably find some positives.

  123. CHawk Talker Eric

    They should’ve moved Fant to LT

  124. Tony

    What a let down. I thought the rams game would wake them up. Guess this is what they are. They are trending down. A loss to 9ers looks very real. Im actually thinking no home field is better. Rather us not lose at home.

  125. CHawk Talker Eric

    That’s PI on Baker

    • CHawk Talker Eric


      • Pran

        Your offense slept the whole game, chuck a Hail Mary and challenge for PI.. lol

  126. Paul Cook

    Unfortunately, we’re really starting to limp towards the playoffs. God I hope we get a bunch of our players back. The Cardinals smoked us today. But there’s a lot of warranted criticisms all the way around on the Hawks side, injuries and all.

    • Pran

      D is aging.. with history of bad drafts and process of bringing rookies slowly(2-3years) and relying on vets from outside, it feels like takes more than 1 good draft. Who are our future foundation pieces on D?

  127. Sea Mode

    Well, hopefully kick in the pants and with everything on the line means we actually show up for next week’s game.

  128. Sean

    We need to fire Ivan Lewis, he is a horrible strength and conditioning coach. I follow USC football very closely, folks over there couldn’t wait to get rid of him because of the amazing amount of injuries USC indured. Also before USC, Washington fans had the same concerns when he was the strength and conditionig coach there. I was shocked when I found out Pete went for Ivan Lewis and I feared this exact situation. If we don’t get rid of him I fear the same thing will happen next year.

  129. Volume12

    That was one of the worst efforts from an O-line I’ve maybe ever seen. Soft as a peach.

    Injuries are a part of the game.

  130. Kelly

    Regardless of the injuries the coaches and players should be embarrassed for the piss poor preparation, execution, and effort today. Absolutely pathetic.

    • neil

      It will be interesting to see RWs press conference today. Will their be a crack in the positivity ?

  131. Nate

    It’s games like these that make me wonder how in the world this team managed to win even 8 games this season, let alone 11. If I was a NFC playoff team right now, I’d be praying for the Seahawks to get a top 2 seed. Easy walk-in to the conference championship with the way we’re playing.

    • Volume12

      Had a QB catch fire for over the season and didn’t punt from an opponent’s 30 yd line

      • Volume12


  132. Tony

    Fully expecting an easy 9er win next week. This team looks toast right now. Possibly because of overwhelming amount of injuries. But definitely a team playing subpar football. Between the rams and cards game, and the 2nd half of Panthers, this team just looks bad. Russ looks off. Playcalling has been very questionable. Just a lackluster ending to the season. Hope they get 1 win in playoffs, but no matter what this team isnt going far.

    Back to draft talk. Season is almost done.

  133. neil

    A gritty, gutsy win by the Eagles today.

  134. neil

    With this loss at home against a supposedly inferior opponent, gave a 1 or 2 seed and a bye away. Really a uninspired performance out there today. NO emotion no fire. That has to be put on the coaches. Never been a big fan of PCs coaching style. People say ” you can’t argue with his record ” but I contend its more a case of him having very talented players than his coaching style. Players like Thomas, Sherman and Baldwin were very vocal and held their teammates to a higher standard. In essence did PCs job in that area.

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