Live Blog: Combine day three (DL, LB)

Welcome to the 2022 NFL combine coverage on Seahawks Draft Blog.

Throughout the event I’ll be reacting live to everything happening in Indianapolis with daily live blogs and post-workout reaction articles.

We want you to get involved too so use the comments section to have your say on everything happening at the combine.

On top of that, my podcast partner Robbie Williams is attending each day at Lucas Oil Field. We hosted a live stream (see the video above) reviewing day two earlier today so don’t forget to check it out.

Keep refreshing this page for updates.

If you missed the TEF scores yesterday, plus running back targets, click here.

And by clicking here you can view the likely tight end and receiver targets for Seattle.

Things to look for today

This is a big day with the defensive linemen and linebackers working — especially given Seattle’s needs. For the EDGE rushers, look for the 10-yard split in the 1.5 range. Agility testing (short shuttle) is vital across the board. You want to see the inside/out rushers show explosive traits and a high level of athleticism. With the linebackers — we want to see an overall plus athletic profile but in particular focus on those short shuttle times. Seattle has shown a keen interest in LB’s who perform especially well in the short shuttle.

D-line measurement notes

Despite measuring with +33 inch arms at the Senior Bowl, Devante Wyatt has just been measured at 32 5/8. This is a slight concern from a Seattle perspective, given their long history of sticking to a 33-inch threshold for D-liners.

The following defensive linemen are in the +33 inch arm range:

Matthew Butler (DT) — 33 1/2
Travis Jones (DT) — 34 1/4
DeMarvin Leal (DE/DT) — 33 1/4
Phidarian Mathis (DT) — 34 5/8
Otiti Ogbonnia (DT) — 34 3/8
John Ridgeway (DT) — 33 3/8
Perrion Winfrey — 35 1/4
Amare Barno (DE) — 34
Michael Clemons (DE) — 34 7/8
Arnold Ebiketie (DE) — 34 1/8
Kinglsey Enagbare (DE) — 34 3/4
DeAngelo Malone (DE) — 33 1/8
David Ojabo (DE) — 33 1/2
Dominique Robinson (DE) — 33 1/4
Tyreke Smith (DE) — 33 1/4
Kayvon Thibodeaux (DE) — 33 1/8
Isaiah Thomas (DE) — 33 1/4
Travon Walker (DE) — 35 1/2
Sam Williams (DE) — 33 1/8
Drake Jackson (DE) — 34
Jermaine Johnson (DE) — 34

The following players had sub-33 inch arms:

Aidan Hutchinson (DE) — 32 1/8
George Karlaftis (DE) — 32 5/8
Logan Hall (DE/DT) — 32 3/4
Joshua Paschal (DE) — 32 3/4
Myjai Sanders (DE) — 32 5/8
Cam Thomas (DE) — 32 1/2
Boye Mafe (DE) — 32 5/8

This is obviously disappointing news regarding Hall, Paschal, Sanders and Mafe. The only notable defensive lineman Seattle has drafted with sub-33 inch arms is Alton Robinson in round four. They have been quite strict with length over the years.

It doesn’t mean they’d pass on these players necessarily but it’s worth highlighting.

More Matt Corral/Seahawks talk

Yesterday Charlie Campbell linked the Seahawks with interest in Ole Miss’ Carrol.

Today, this photograph was posted featuring Monte Kiffin introducing the quarterback to Pete Carroll, who is sitting next to Lane Kiffin:

The combine schedule strikes again

Only 13 defensive linemen and seven linebackers opted to do the bench press. This is, once again, almost certainly because they’ve been asked to do it on the same day as on-field drills. So I’ll say it one more time. Either move it back next year, or swap it for the powerball toss.

Forty yard dash times (defensive linemen)

10-yard splits in brackets. Elite splits are 1.5 for edge rushers, 1.6 for inside/out types

Nik Bonitto — 4.62 (1.61) & 4.60 (1.59)
Matthew Butler — 5.04 (1.73) & 5.06 (1.75)
Zach Carter — 5.03 (1.73) & 5.05 (1.74)
Jordan Davis — 4.82 (1.68) & DNP
Noah Elliss 5.62 — (1.88) & DNP
Neil Farrell — 5.42 (1.88) & 5.46 (1.90)
Haskell Garrett — 5.25 (1.85) & 5.13 (1.82)
Logan Hall — 4.94 (1.73) & 4.88 (1.68)
Chris Hinton — 5.27 (1.74) & 5.32 (1.81)
Travis Jones — 4.90 (1.76) & DNP
DeMarvin Leal — 5.01 (1.74) & 5.06 (1.75)
Jayden Peevy — 5.42 (1.92) & 5.35 (1.84)
John Ridgeway — 5.42 (1.81) & 5.32 (1.80)
Perrion Winfrey — 4.86 (1.68) & DNP
Devonte Wyatt — 4.84 (1.66) & 4.80 (1.66)

A quick reminder that the national media and draft twitter had Jordan Davis rated in the mid-rounds as a run-of-the-mill nose tackle last summer. This blog told you he would test through the roof. And he just ran a 4.82 at 341lbs, with a stunning 1.68 split.

The time for Travis Jones was equally expected but running a 4.90 at 325lbs is ridiculous too. His Senior Bowl was outstanding. He is powerful, huge and an elite athlete. If he’s there at #41 (perhaps not likely) — he would be a great pick for Seattle.

Devonte Wyatt, as expected, ran in the 4.8’s. He added a 1.66 10-yard split which is elite for a 304lbs defensive tackle.

Perrion Winfrey appeared to injure himself at the end of his initial forty yard dash. He didn’t attempt a second run, although even with the injury he still ran an unofficial 4.86 with a fantastic 1.68 split.

There were several impressive performers in the wave drill. Nobody looked better than Travis Jones. He sprinted from side-to-side, changed direction with ease and just looks like a freakish athlete. Jordan Davis, unsurprisingly, also looked fantastic. Matthew Butler, Haskell Garrett and Logan Hall also performed well. Devonte Wyatt tried to guess on a couple of moves but his quickness and agility is unbelievable for a defensive tackle.

Matthew Butler looks superb running in and out of the bags. I’ve been projecting round three for him and he isn’t disappointing. He might not be Davis or Jones but he’s still extremely athletic, he shows compact movements and he can stay low.

Logan Hall is put together. Big, sturdy and moving very well in and out of the bags.

Travis Jones just fell over during his rep in slightly embarrassing fashion. Devonte Wyatt moves like a bloody linebacker. At 304lbs.

Official forty times for the first group of D-liners

Devonte Wyatt — 4.77
Jordan Davis — 4.78
Perrion Winfrey — 4.89
Travis Jones — 4.92
Matthew Butler — 5.00
DeMarvin Leal — 5.00

Those are incredible times from Wyatt, Davis, Winfrey, Jones and Butler.

The defensive tackles are now doing a drill where they have to slap and spin away from bags, then bend around a bag, change direction and finish. I’ve not seen a workout like this before. It feels like an all-star show. This is the Harlem Globetrotter equivalent of combine workouts.

Linebackers in defensive tackle bodies.

Travis Jones excelled in the figure-8 drill just as he did at the Senior Bowl.

Otito Ogbonnia injured himself running the figure-8. Perrion Winfrey hasn’t done anything since pulling up during his forty.

They just showed a montage of Jordan Davis’ drills. Simply incredible. That was a pleasure to watch. To think people were saying mid-rounder last summer and late first as recent as last week. He is going to go very, very early.

Here are some vertical jumps from the EDGE rushers:

Dominique Robinson — 41
Arnold Ebiketie — 38
Amare Barno — 37
Kingsley Enagbare — 36.5
Aiden Hutchinson — 36
Travon Walker — 35.5
Tyreke Smith — 34
Myjai Sanders — 33
Sam Williams — 32.5
Isaiah Thomas — 31.5

Sam Williams’ 32.5 is well below expectations.

Broad jumps:

Arnold Ebiketie — 10-8
Joshua Paschal — 10-3
David Ojabo — 10-2
George Karlaftis — 10-1
Aidan Hutchinson — 9-9
Michael Clemons — 9-8

Forty yard dash times (EDGE rushers)

10-yard splits in brackets. Elite splits are 1.5 for edge rushers, 1.6 for inside/out types

Amare Barno — 4.37 (1.54) & DNP
Thomas Booker — 4.95 (1.69) & 4.96 (1.71)
Michael Clemons — DNP
Arnold Ebiketie — DNP
Kingsley Enagbare — 4.92 (1.72) & 5.00 (1.78)
Jeffrey Gunter — 4.79 (1.64) & 4.72 (1.63)
Aidan Hutchinson — 4.75 (1.62) & 4.78 (1.62)
Tyree Johnson — DNP
George Karlaftis — DNP
Jesse Luketa — 4.89 (1.69) & DNF
DeAngelo Malone — DNP
David Ojabo — 4.60 (1.64) & 4.60 (1.65)
Esezi Otomewo — DNP
Joshua Paschal — 4.82 (1.62) & 4.82 (1.64)
LaBryan Ray — DNP
Dominique Robinson — 4.78 (1.67) & 4.77 (1.69)
Myjai Sanders — 4.73 (1.62) & 4.71 (1.62)
Tyreke Smith — 4.82 (1.67) & 4.80 (1.65)
Myron Tagovailoa-Amosa — 4.87 (1.71) & 4.88 (1.72)
Kayvon Thibodeaux — 4.65 (1.62) & 4.66 (1.59)
Cam Thomas — DNP
Isaiah Thomas — 4.76 (1.67) & 4.75 (1.66)
Travon Walker — 4.60 (1.64) & 4.59 (1.62)
Sam Williams — 4.52 (1.61) & 4.52 (1.60)
Alex Wright — DNP

That’s a fantastic 10-yard split of 1.62 for Joshua Paschal, who is a power-defender.

Myjai Sanders is 228lbs at the combine, which is significantly less than he did at the Senior Bowl.

This wasn’t the freak show that was expected. There were only two 1.5 10-yard splits. The standout was Amare Barno. From a Seahawks perspective, Sam Williams is perhaps the most appealing and the most likely to be a target at #41. His 4.52 forty and 1.60 split is enticing.

Jesse Luketa injured himself running his second forty and didn’t complete the run.

Travon Walker’s 4.59 at 272lbs is impressive, as is his 1.62 split. It’s unlikely he lasts to #41.

Kingsley Enagbare looks very stiff in the wave drill, off the back of running a 4.92. He isn’t elevating his stock here.

Several players are doing the on-field workouts but didn’t run a forty, including DeAngelo Malone (who looks well put together with the extra weight).

Kayvon Thibodeaux is creating unnecessary drama. He ran a forty but has weirdly decided to just shut it down, despite telling everyone last week he would do everything at the combine. The concerns about his attitude and decision making won’t go away after this. Go and compete man. He told the NFL Network he isn’t doing on-field work because he ‘wants to do linebacker drills too at his pro-day’.

Sam Williams looked a bit stiff in his wave drill. That shows on tape. He’s not quite as good with the change of direction as some of the other pass rushers in this draft.

Dominique Robinson and DeAngelo Malone both ‘look’ like the type of pass rushers Seattle likes. Joshua Paschal moved well on the bag/shuttle (despite tripping on a bag) and Sam Williams also showed well here.

The linebacker jumps are coming in…


Jeremiah Moon — 40.5
Chad Muma — 40
Malcolm Rodriguez — 39.5
Jesse Luketa — 37.5
Brandon Smith — 37.5
Devin Lloyd — 35


Troy Anderson — 10-8
Leo Chenal — 10-8
Chance Campbell — 10-7
Damone Clark — 10-7
Brian Asamoah — 10-4
Darrian Beavers — 10-4
Jesse Luketa — 9-6

DeAngelo Malone looks terrific with the extra weight. I hope he does agility testing because I want to know how athletic he is. It seems he isn’t doing timing tests due to the extra weight. He’s probably spent the time since the Senior Bowl eating and working in the gym to bulk up.

On tape, Travon Walker isn’t much of an edge threat. He’s a powerful, violent defender who has quickness but bending and straightening to the QB with lean and balance isn’t what he’s good at. It’s worth remembering during all this NFL Network hype.

As mentioned a moment ago. Sam Williams is a little bit stiff. He’s a good player and an option for Seattle. But he is what he is. He can attack the edge but he’s not that freaky lean/bend edge rusher.

Based on what we’re seeing here — free agency feels like the area to target a partner in crime for Taylor.

Amare Barno is a very interesting player though. I liked his tape but had no idea he was a 4.3 runner and he’s shown athleticism and bend here. I liked his figure-8. Jeffrey Gunter has shown well during drills. He’s in good shape and moves well.

Joshua Paschal had a tremendous figure-8 drill. He is bigger than a lot of these guys but his agility, balance and power is impressive. Dominique Robinson also showed well — he kept close to the ring, rounded well and looked tight and in control.

Sam Williams’ stiffness showed again as he slipped twice in his figure-8.

Defensive tackle jumps are coming in and it’s crazy news again…

Broad jumps:

Jordan Davis — 10-3
Matthew Butler — 9-4
Devonte Wyatt — 9-3
Travis Jones — 9-2
Phidarian Mathis — 9-1
DeMarvin Leal — 8-10
John Ridgeway — 8-5

That’s a new record for an offensive or defensive linemen in the broad jump, set by Jordan Davis.

Vertical jumps:

Eyioma Uwazurike — 33
Jordan Davis — 32
Matthew Butler — 32
Devonte Wyatt — 29
Travis Jones — 28.5
DeMarvin Leal — 27.5
Haskell Garrett — 24
Phidarian Mathis — 23.5
Neil Farrell — 21.5

The official forty times are in for the EDGE rushers too:

Amare Barno — 4.36
Sam Williams — 4.46
Travon Walker — 4.51
Nik Bonitto — 4.54
David Ojabo — 4.55
Kayvon Thibodeaux — 4.58
Myjai Sanders — 4.67
Jeffery Gunter — 4.70
Isaiah Thomas — 4.70
Dominique Robinson — 4.72
Aidan Hutchinson — 4.74
Joshua Paschal — 4.77
Tyreke Smith — 4.86
Kingsley Enagbare — 4.87
Logan Hall — 4.88
Zach Carter — 4.99

Sam Williams’ 4.46 really helps him. Stiff or not — he can get after it off the edge and he’s perhaps the most likely EDGE target for #41.

Forty yard dash times (linebackers)

Troy Andersen — 4.41 & 4.46
Brian Asamoah — 4.61 & 4.71
Darrian Beavers — DNP
Terrel Bernard — DNP
Darien Butler — DNP
Chance Campbell — 4.63 & 4.70
Leo Chenal — 4.57 & 4.61
Damone Clark — 4.62 & 4.65
Nakobe Dean — DNP
JoJo Domann — 4.64 & 4.66
Jeremiah Gemmel — DNP
Isaiah Graham-Mobley — 4.69 & 4.72
Jake Hansen — DNP
Aaron Hansford — DNP
Christian Harris — 4.44 & 4.46
D’Marco Jackson — 4.60 & 4.57
Drake Jackson — DNP
Jermaine Johnson — 4.58 & 4.62
Nate Landman — 4.85 & DNP
Devin Lloyd — 4.71 & 4.74
Boye Mafe — 4.57 & 4.62
Zakoby McClain — 4.69 & 4.72
Micah McFadden — DNP
Jeremiah Moon — 4.81 & 4.85
Chad Muma — 4.66 & 4.64
Malcolm Rodriguez — 4.57 & 4.58
Mike Rose — DNP
Josh Ross — 4.81 & 4.87
Jack Sanborn — 4.76 & 4.83
Nephi Sewell — 4.66 & 4.69
Brandon Smith — 4.57 & 4.61
Baylon Spector — 4.64 & DNP
Channing Tindall — 4.53 & 4.54
Quay Walker — 4.59 & 4.57
Tre Williams — 5.15 & DNP

I’ve been saying for some weeks that Devin Lloyd is being overrated by the national media. He had amazing production at Utah but I don’t think he’s a special athlete with amazing upside. He jumped only a 35 inch vertical and ran a 4.71. I’ve been listing him outside of the first round.

Channing Tindall running a 4.53 is quicker, funnily enough, than I expected. He flies around the field but I thought he’d still be a 4.6 type. That’s an impressive time.

Boye Mafe and Jermaine Johnson both ran in the 4.5’s. For some reason, despite their 10-yard split being as important as any of the other pass rushers, we don’t get to see it just because they’re in the linebacker group. Thanks, NFL Network. It’s the same every year.

Troy Andersen looked superb running the forty and timed in the 4.4’s. His wave drill was also silky smooth.

Damone Clark looked sensational running the wave drill. What an athlete. He still looks like a Greek God, as he did at LSU. Leo Chenal has quite an unusual frame — stocky but short. I’m not sure if that might impact how teams view him. He’s not a prototype in terms of frame.

Drake Jackson looks heavy. He didn’t run a forty but is doing on-field drills. He is dressed like it’s five degrees below zero in the Stadium.

Boye Mafe looks superb. He is in amazing shape. He looks like a top-tier NFL pass rusher should look.

Here are some more linebacker jumps:


Channing Tindall — 42
Leo Chenal — 40.5
Damone Clark — 36.5
Nate Landman — 36.5
Quay Walker — 32


Christian Harris — 11
Chad Muma — 10-9
Channing Tindall — 10-9
Leo Chenal — 10-8
Damone Clark — 10-7
Quay Walker — 10-2
Nate Landman — 9-11

Channing Tindall said he was a freak of nature. That has been confirmed.

During drills he has equally excelled looking quick and exciting. Leo Chenal has also impressed, along with Damone Clark.

I’m completing today’s live blog. My recap article will be up shortly so stay tuned. Don’t forget to join us for the final day of combine coverage tomorrow. Robbie and I will do another live stream, followed by the usual live blog and recap post.


  1. Peter

    First. Tremendous, unbelievable coverage.

    Second. I kind of think Wyatt will go before 41 but if he doesn’t hope Seattle skips a little in their parameters. Alton Robinson breaking their mold slightly.

    Changes in my own thoughts with further room to change again….

    I think you’ve convinced me that the team should go Lucas if he’s there, Jurgens (who will probably be there,) at 41. Unless they get weird and fix the oline in FA.

    Would love many of the DT/DE options at 41 but am sick to death about infinite conversations about “how good is Wilson really?” When there’s a chance that no QB has played with more oline permutations than him and twice a year they play a team with some guy named Aaron Donald and act like it’s the first they are hearing about him.

    • Sea Mode

      The more I think about it though, the more I think they might not want two rookies starting on the OL. If they want to win now, it’s probably better to get an experienced, proven center in FA. (If only there were some highly-graded center familiar with the scheme we want to run, who could plug in and call the protections immediately for us…)

      Then grab Lucas if he somehow lasts to 41 or a guard (Chasen Hines, for example) later to develop and take over for Gabe Jackson.

      • Peter

        It’s tough with oline or dline. Both sides seem to have a bit of a curve getting unto the pros. Whereas RB, LB, and safety should be able to make their presence known right away.

        Brian Allen to help harmonize the scheme is the dream. Then they get some flexibility in the draft.

        Free up Wagner money add a DE.

        Some here might not love but if they do both #41 all of a sudden gets closer to BPA.

        Contrary to draft media, Lucas I think goes solidly in round one but a smart team.

  2. CaptainJack

    I think it’s ridiculous to think that 3/8’s inch of arm length is going to make or break a player. If that’s a “deal breaker” for the Seahawks I think I’ve figured out why they’ve been crap at drafting since 2013

    • CaptainJack

      I think Rob alluded to this earlier… having these really strict testing and measurement parameters is how you pass on George kittle… five times in a draft.

      • Sea Mode

        Yeah, you can make an exception for a player if they excel in some other aspect. But if you start doing that left and right to justify picks, you end up with a team of smaller, lacking length, and/or less-athletic players.

        • CaptainJack

          Good. Toss the ideals out the window. I want a team of winners, not a team of physically blessed “athletes “. Throw the combine out the window and draft via college tape and production. That’s how the Rams ended up with cooper kupp.

          • Rob Staton

            I don’t understand the need to be so aggressively picking sides on this.

            The better athlete wins 90/100 times in the NFL.

            The combine is important. Tape is important. It’s all important.

            • CaptainJack

              If I seem aggressive in my rhetoric it’s only out of frustration over years of bad drafting

    • Rob Staton

      Well, length does make a difference. It might not seem much but think how often you are using your hands for leverage and keeping your frame clean. If you lose those battles to longer linemen it’s an issue.

      I don’t defend the Seahawks for the sake of it but there’s a reason certain ideals exist

  3. Rob Staton

    Remember the Walter Football report yesterday?

    Well here’s Monte Kiffin introducing Matt Corral to Pete Carroll.

    Kiffin is on Lane’s staff at Ole Miss

    Lane is sat next to Pete

    • MyChestIsBeastMode

      Hmm. Wonder if the Seahawks are letting Washington (and the world know) that maybe, just maybe, they’d be inclined to a trade if Corral is available at the pick being offered (#9 from Commanders for example).

      • Peter

        Pretty weird move to trade Wilson and then burn a top ten pick on any qb in this draft where every single one of them is going multiple spots higher and up to a full round higher than they would if there was any defined top tier talent.

        • MyChestIsBeastMode

          Not saying I would do it. I am saying if the Seahawks like a guy (say they like him as much as they reportedly like Josh Allen or Pat Mahomes in the past) then they’d be more inclined to do it.

          No need to take risks. If they do truly like Corral and wait until draft day and he’s there at 9 or 16 or whatever, and a team gives up 3 1sts + a player, then the Seahawks take on minimal risk or at least know exactly what they’re getting at QB as opposed to guessing/speculating/hoping their guy falls to them has they accepted a trade today (or sometime prior to the draft).

          • MyChestIsBeastMode

            I like Top Billin’s(Youtuber) analysis on Matt Corral. He can definitely fit the ball in tight windows with good timing on these limited highlights. Ranks him 2nd best to Trevor Lawrence if he had gone in last year’s draft and top QB in this draft.

   (15mins – Posted 3 weeks ago)

            • Peter

              Ill check it out. I enjoy top billin’s videos. Though he also tried telling me that kerry hyder was a great signing.

              • MychestisBeastmode

                You can’t win ’em all.

                • cha

                  I think this is the same guy that called critics of the Jamal Adams trade ‘stat nerd virgins’

                  • Rob Staton

                    Sounds like a bit of a bell then

                  • cha

                    I stand corrected.

                    He called them “casual fanboys, and overall nerds and virgins. Anybody talking s**t about Jamal Adams, has to be one of the above, most likely all the above.”


                    • Rob Staton

                      I’ll make a mental note not to watch any of his videos then.

                  • Peter

                    Overall nerds though kinda checks put for this crowd.

    • Peter

      I have a life where I have to spend a ton of time with old men ( i farm) and old men are forever introducing people they like to other people they like. They can’t stop themselves. Hard to infer anything from this. 100 year old monte kiffin is telling pete what? You should trade Wilson and draft corral?

      I’d guess it’s more that monte likes pete a ton and thinks Corral is a “helluva kid.”

    • Jackson

      Even if a Wilson trade doesn’t happen (which I believe is the most likely outcome at this point), is it inconceivable that they could spend #41 on a QB like Corral?

      • Peter

        Sans trade…? I would hope not. There’s just too much good talent right there.

        With a trade? I would go Ridder at 41. Corral is apparently more accurate but somehow turns it over much more than Ridder did. Ridder to me is the most game managing QB in this draft. He can run. ( so can Corral) Has very little overall wow factor. But isn’t as prone to goofy decision making. If you had a lot of pieces around him you could probably have him hold it down respectfully.

        • Pugs1

          Corral is a gunslinger. He had a couple of rough games in 2020 throwing 14. Most of them cam in two games. Lane Kiffin kept him in and let him take his lumps. He only threw 5 this year. The injuries are concerning but teams will love his intangibles

      • Blitzy the Clown

        Maybe if they were totally oblivious to what happened between Green Bay and Aaron Rodgers…

      • Rob Staton

        I don’t think it’s likely but not inconceivable.

    • cha

      Hey, if Russ can show some leg to other teams, the Seahawks can have a look at the options too.

      • Peter

        Tbf there has been zero reporting of how the conversations went prior to “the list.” But we do know trader john was apparently scouting other qb’s.

        Feels like there was a better than good chance both these things didn’t form in a vacuum.

  4. Sea Mode

    Perhaps the rumors are true…

    • Sea Mode

      Beat me to it! 😁

    • Cover2

      I watched a show that followed the Ole Miss team this year. Matt Corral is featured on one of the episodes. It’s an interesting insight to a prospect that we draft fans rarely get to see.

  5. Jackson

    The entire RB group boycotted the agility drills because of how late they were being held. Another job well done, NFL!

    • Blitzy the Clown

      Hate to break it to these athletes, but if they want to play in the NFL, they’ll have to play at night from time to time.

      • MyChestIsBeastMode

        Yaaa, but these numbers will be attached to them for the rest of their careers and be a baseline for their “potential” and draft stock; which all equates to earning potential. It’s very reasonable for prospects to advocate for ideal conditions for combine testing as their performance will be referenced at every contract discussion from now until they retire.

  6. Palatypus

    Just curious. I know that there is war in Ukraine right now, but if you guys saw me being introduced to Mila Kunis, would you assume we are dating?

    Because that’s how much of a shot I think Matt Corral has of being our starting quarterback next year.

    • Mick

      +1. I doubt Wilson is going anywhere. People read too much into this.

    • Rob Staton

      That’s not even close to a comparable situation though

      If you were at a meeting of ‘you get to pick which movie star to date and they have no say in the matter’ and you were talking to Kunis, then yes I would assume that. And then it would be comparable.

      • MychestisBeastmode

        I like this reimagined world where Pete Carroll is courting Mila Kunis. Except that Pete is old balls and also kinda creepy when realizing Mila has no say in the matter. Outside of that, a perfectly lighthearted fun(ny) analogy.

      • Palatypus

        You know what I mean Rob. Anything involving Mila Kunis and I is charity.

  7. Sea Mode

    Hmmm, may need to reconsider. First game I put on to take a look at the two LSU guards I liked in drills yesterday features both of them getting dumped on their backside…

    LSU OL/Offense vs Mississippi State Defense (2021)

    Ingram in general looks a bit slow. His poor TEF score doesn’t help his cause either. But he does have great size and a high pass blocking grade (led the SEC in 2021 with 82.6).

    Hines did well in wTEF, very similar to Damien Lewis who he is built like. Looks like a plus run blocker who moves great for such a heavy guy when he pulls, but then also seems to get pushed around and end up on the ground on about a third of the plays… Rob, did you pay any attention to him when you watched Ingram? He was only a late call-up to the Senior Bowl from the NFLPA bowl.

    And there is this:

    “I was disappointed with how his weight spiked (in 2021). I thought it hurt his consistency and he needs to get it trimmed back down.” — Regional scout for NFC team

    Looks like a case of the Combine sending me to the tape, and the tape saying “meh, not really”.

    • HawkFan907

      It feels like a lot of guys who measured with long enough arms at the Senior Bowl are coming in with shorter arms than expected. Wyatt, Mafe, Hall, and Pascal have shorter arms now.

  8. Sea Mode

    IMO, as has been the case in the past several years, the table from Steelers’ Depot during the Combine continues to be the best.

    • Sea Mode

      Another useful resource I just found is this Twitter account that posts a bunch of the different Combine drills in parts. In case anyone wants to go back and take another look at any prospect.

    • Rob Staton

      Awesome, I’d forgotten about this. Thanks for sharing. It is indeed the best.

  9. Sea Mode

    This is the other OL project that really caught my eye with his build and how he moved in drills. Day 3 T/G project?


  10. Denver Hawker

    Scouts gonna scout. JS has always spent time evaluating QBs with Russ at the helm. I’d be more surprised to learn he didn’t study any quarterbacks or meet with them. Pete and Kiffin go way back so not surprising to see them together in Indy.

    Corral does seem to have some of those “it” factors that are really important. If they do trade Russ, I wouldn’t be mad if they took a stab on Corral.

  11. MyChestIsBeastMode

    A few weeks back, I referenced my cousin, OL 6’5 315lbs — Sebastian Gutierrez, a small college (Minot State in ND) kid who’s garnered interest from Seahawks, Green Bay, Indianapolis, to name a few as an interior O-lineman. He’s been told he’s likely to be taken Rd4-UDFA. He tells me he is consistently running 40 in the 4.8 range and has 33″ arms. He’s a WR -> TE -> OL convert who gained weight from ~200lbs up to ~295lbs pretty late in his college career.

    The big update is he’s been invited to do his pro-day at North Dakota State’s combine on March 24th.

    I have no idea what his TEF numbers might be, but I am excited for the little big man. I’ll keep updates coming as I get them.

    • Big Mike

      Please do! It’s a lot of fun to hear about a player that as a connection with someone I/we know (even if it’s online here).

    • Sea Mode

      Cool! Wish him the best of luck from us and keep us posted!

  12. Big Mike

    One thing to consider as far as trading Wilson is concerned…………Carroll still has 3 years left on his contract. There has been speculation that Jody is expecting a better season this year and pressuring Carroll along those lines but we don’t know that for sure. He could be 100% solid for 3 more years and if that were the case, trading Wilson and drafting Corral could be a possibility. Certainly Carroll has the ego to think some roster building draft choices and development of a rookie could win in the next 2-3 years. (never mind that he’d go that route because of the trade for a 63rd ranked, injury prone box safety being paid 18 per and the likely scenario of keeping a tentative, past his prime MLB being paid the same)

  13. Rob Staton

    I’ve updated the measurements part of the live blog with more details.

    There’s some disappointing news re: arm length

    • MychestisBeastmode

      Truu. Silver lining — Perron Winfrey is part Pterodactyl with thos 35″+ arms.

      Really sucks for Mafe and others. Hopefully (for Seahawks) they fall to Rd 4 where empirical evidence shows we may consider them even with less than ideal arm length.

      It also makes me even more frustrated we aren’t in range for a Jermaine Johnson type talent.

      • Big Mike

        No need, we have the peacock

        • Gross MaToast

          Pound your chest and point to the heavens after saying that.

      • Cover2

        I’m a big fan of Winfrey. Really like his quickness and length.

        Fun fact…Our own DT Al Woods arm length is 36 inches.

    • CaptainJack

      Aaron Donald has sub 33 inch arms.

      Good players are good players.

      • CaptainJack

        Greg Gaines has sub 32 inch arms and is barely hitting 6’1. He started next to Donald in the superbowl. Draft good players, not combine measurements

      • Rob Staton

        You’re being quite ridiculous about this.

        Nobody is saying that you are a bad player with sub-33 inch arms. Or that it’s make or break. Or that elite players have to tick every box.

        But Donald is a freak of nature. In every sense, physically, he makes up for having slightly shorter arms.

        Thus, it doesn’t matter as much.

        But guess what? There’s not a ton of Aaron Donald’s out there. There’s only one of him, in fact.

        So a lot of these shorter armed guys don’t have the same make up tools physically. As a consequence, the issues are more prevalent. You mentioned Greg Gaines. I wonder how good he’d look playing next to Bryan Mone instead of Aaron Donald?

        And as for ‘Good players are good players’.

        Guess what? LJ Collier was a good player at TCU. His combine sucked.

        So we can all provide the odd example here and there.

        The combine matters. Tape matters. It all matters.

        • CaptainJack

          I don’t want to turn this into a massive back and forth argument because I respect the work you do, and agree with most of your takes.

          But LJ Collier was a good player at TCU? I always thought his tcu film was average at best. He had a good senior bowl, and I think that is what left the major positive impression in the minds of PCJS. But maybe I’m missing something and his tcu tape was actually good so who knows.

          • Rob Staton

            Collier’s tape was good.

            I watched pretty much every game he played in his final season. Might’ve been every game in the end.

            He was good. It’s why they took him in R1. Because they did what you said — ignored the physicals and took a good player.

        • CaptainJack

          In regards to Greg Gaines

          I know you are not a UW fan or anything like that. But I am a much more devoted UW husky fan than seahawk fan in all honestly. I watched every game Greg Gaines played in and many of them multiple times. There was never a game he didn’t turn in a rock solid performance at DT.. Especially juxtaposed with current UW dline performances which are nothing short of awful. Gaines then goes to the combine and shows nothing special. The rams draft him anyways based on his college performances. And he turns into a starter.

          Seahawks wouldn’t have sniffed him with his measurables and athletic stats. The same philosophy is why the rams drafted kupp. Now, I will admit I am more familiar with Kupp and Gaines than other players because I only closely follow Washington college football more than other states. But I get the sense the rams have a totally different drafting philosophy than seattle. And it seems to have been working well for them (albeit they have no picks this year)

          • Rob Staton

            I watched at least 8 games of Greg Gaines, plus two live games.

            I’m well aware of what he is.

            It’s a very fair point to say he has benefitted playing next to Aaron Donald. Anyone would.

            Like I’ve said, you’ve gone down a rabbit hole with this anti-combine rhetoric and you don’t appear willing to come back out.

          • Palatypus

            I watched Kupp a lot. I was pissed when the Rams selected him.

    • Henry Taylor

      32 1/8″ arms is very short for a potential #1 pick pass rusher.

      • Rob Staton


      • CaptainJack

        True, but we aren’t drafting high enough to weigh stuff like this that seriously. Arm length should certainly play into consideration when you have the cream of the crop to select from. When you draft later, you have to look at the player more as a whole . Later on, you take the guys who can play. Like 5’10 and a half wilson.

        • Rob Staton

          Please stop now

        • Group captain mandrake

          If you have a guy that is projected to go lower, and he has shorter arms, it’s going to make e en more of a difference so you could argue it’s a bigger deal.

        • Hawkdawg

          So #41 isn’t high enough to take arm length seriously? Or #74? Wilson was #75, and he had at least one meaningful measurement going for him–big hands. Biggest in the NFL now, apparently.

          I suppose once you drop down into the later rounds you are forced to choose to ignore, or overlook, certain measurements, like we did with Robinson . But not in the first 2-3 rounds.

      • Palatypus

        Von Milliers arms are 33.5″

        Boye Mafe and Von Miller are virtually the same size.

  14. cha

    Bram Weinstein and John Keim talk Commanders trading for a QB and take more than a few minutes on RW.

    They’re talking smarter about the Seahawks’ situation moreso than any local voices are (aside from here)

    They actually examine it through the Seahawks’ side and the crossroads they’re in.

    • CaptainJack

      None of these qbs are worth a letter home. If a josh Allen or pat mahomes was coming out… sure.

      But if Carroll thinks he can replace Wilson with one of this year’s crop, I’m tuning out for good.

  15. Myles

    Now that the Matt Corral news has hit, it got me thinking. How many times have we seen the Seahawks show a ton of interest in a player or “John Schnieder sat up in his chair when this guy was doing the drills”? I think of Obi Melifonwu, Marquise Lee, and other guys. The DK interest at the Combine was kept under wraps from the media until the press conference. How much of this is just a show (maybe they really want Ridder; JS didn’t even talk to RW at the Combine)?

  16. Rob Staton

    Matt Corral’s mum just liked my tweet about the Seahawks & the report about their interest in Matt.

    Clearly this means they are definitely going to draft him.

    • Rob Staton

      Also, Corral retweeted this:

    • Blitzy the Clown

      Finally an official statement!

    • Robbie

      Oh!!!!! Things have escalated quickly. Best vibe yet at Lucas Oil today.

    • Spectator

      Could there be a thought that Pete is contemplating Lane Kiffin as his successor? Highly speculative of course, but thought comes to mind.

      • Rob Staton

        Well, at least it’d be interesting

    • Hawk Finn

      Really hope your not joking. Just submitted my preorder

      • Peter

        Jamal Adams throwback jersey?

        • Hawk Finn

          Monte Kiffin wolf grey. That’s what we’re talking about here, right?

          • Peter


    • Palatypus

      Does your wife know?

  17. Matthew Johnson

    Can someone explain to me how Matt corral is some how exponentially better than say Eason? I’m not saying Eason is something great by any means, but with the talk of how overhyped this draft is on the qbs, how does drafting corral make any sense? Eason at least has been in the system for a full year and won’t cost you draft picks to acquire.

    • Rob Staton

      Well, it makes sense if John Schneider really rates Matt Corral, doesn’t it.

    • Peter

      Not stoked on rewatching corral’s tape again later but from a pure numbers stand point Corral is much more accurate and is qute the runner.

    • Mick

      Nothing against Eason but they had him in Seattle and they could see what he’s able to do, so if they draft a QB, they have good reasons.

  18. Blitzy the Clown

    Jordan Davis oh my god

    • Peter

      Trade Wilson for multiple firsts and get ne Davis for a 3-4? Okay, now I’m listening.

      • Scot04

        No Adams trade….
        Could of had Javonte Williams (2021 1st), Quinn Meinerz (2021 3rd) & a shot at Davis or so many other top players with pick #10.
        What could of been.
        Regardless, I do not hope we trade Wilson, unless we do 0 in Free-agency then by all means trade him.

  19. Robbie

    Jordan Davis can MOVE!!!! That was impressive

    • Rob Staton

      Incredible — and what we’ve been saying on here for well over a year.

      The guy is an incredible athlete.

      Some people were mocking him in round two FFS.

      • CaptainJack

        I don’t see why he shouldn’t be considered in the top five.

  20. Blitzy the Clown

    FYI re the Carroll-Corral talk…

    I’m not saying Carroll has a lot of familiarity with Corral specifically, but Corral is a product of Oaks Christian HS in Westlake, CA, and Carroll is VERY familiar with Oaks Christian.

    • Blitzy the Clown

      While Payton, who is from Southern California, ended up at UCLA, he still has a lot of respect for Carroll, who he remembers seeing visit prospects at Oaks Christian School.
      “Pete Carroll is a legend where I’m from,” Payton said. “When I was at Oaks Christians, he’d come to our school recruiting, he was recruiting Cassius Marsh at the time. Seeing Coach Carroll in the hallways was definitely huge for us.”

    • Rob Staton

      Let’s all buy a jersey. It’s happening.

      • STTBM

        Lol! Barf!

  21. Blitzy the Clown

    Looked like a shaky start for Travis Jones and he still ran a 4.9

    • BobbyK

      I really hope he and Brian Robinson become Seahawks.

    • Seattle Person

      Travis Jones with a sub-5.0? Geez. These big guys are getting ridiculous.

      • Seattle Person

        Wyatt and Davis with 10-yard splits in the 1.6s at their size. Lord have mercy.

        • Peter

          Some team with two firsts….giants? Could do way worse than draft both those boys and let them rip next year.

  22. Robbie

    Perrion Winfrey just came up limping after his 40…..dang.

    • Rob Staton

      One of the few players we had zero testing info on too.



      • Blitzy the Clown

        Yes but he still clocked a 1.68 10yd split

        • Rob Staton

          Terrific run

        • Seattle Person

          Matthew Butler has been impressive too. Validates his film. He’s quick and with that 40 time and split backing that up. Looking good as a possible 3/4 round pick.

  23. Graeme

    Rob, any thoughts on DeAngelo Malone?

    • Rob Staton

      Very impressed at the Senior Bowl. His tape is a little frustrating at times.

      He’s added a fair chunk of weight for the combine so testing will be interesting.

  24. Nano

    The ‘Hawks physical attribute strictures are stupid. Hopefully the Tre Brown pic last year illustrates their envelope is opening up a little bit.

    • Seattle Person

      It’s a philosophy. They have shown to be flexible with their selection in recent seasons. It’s not as strict as it used to be. Many examples of this.

      • Nano

        Ya, 1/8 of an inch is a stupid reason not to pick someone that you know can play.

        • Rob Staton

          People are tying themselves in knots about this and there’s no need.

          • Nano

            Who is tying themselves in knots? I just said it’s stupid. Because it’s stupid.

  25. Sea Mode

    The amount of commercials right now is unbearable.

    • Rob Staton

      Making it worse is the commercials are repetitive.

      By the end of the night you can recite them from memory

  26. Peter

    These initial numbers completely validate Rob’s argument about explosive olinemen. Some of these splits at these sizes….good lord…

    • Peter

      About needing explosive olinemen. Imagine staring down the barrel of wyatt, davis, etc, at the snap.

  27. Robbie

    Neil Farrell just about lost his shorts on that lol plumbers crack the whole time 😂

    Jordan Davis is the clear winner so far. His change of direction is impressive.

    • Robbie

      Devonte Wyatt as well, then Georgia boys can move

    • Rob Staton

      I’ve counted two bare arses so far

      • Sea Mode


        Every time McCall runs I’m hoping the camera cuts away quickly…

    • CaptainJack

      Anyone pull a “Chris jones” yet? Lmao 😜

  28. Tien

    I’m mostly a lurker on here, Rob, but I check this site almost every day and at times, multiple times a day. I just want say how much I’ve appreciated all your columns as we prepare for this draft. I still don’t trust Pete’s & John’s decision making but I’m holding out a faint hope that they’re finally serious this year about making this a tougher team again and sign some impactful OL & DL in FA so that we can draft BPA when the draft rolls around.

    • Rob Staton

      Thanks Tien

  29. Blitzy the Clown

    Look at Travis Jones dance around out there at 6’4″ 325! My goodness!

    • Sea Mode

      Great looking upper body, too.

    • Cover2

      Travis Jones solidified himself as a 1st round prospect. I was hoping for him or Perrion Winfrey at #41. I highly doubt either of them fall to us now.

      • Rob Staton

        I tend to agree

      • Scot04

        While I also feel Wyatt, Winfrey, & Jones will be gone
        Anything is possible.
        None of us thought Josh Meyers or Humphries would be there for us in the late 2nd last year.
        I just hope this year we’re in good position to take BPA after 1st wave or two of Free-agency.
        Then if they get if they get lucky in a similar way they can take advantage.

  30. Blitzy the Clown

    Mathis looks pretty good

  31. Sea Mode

    DeMarvin Leal very nice bags drill.

    Wyatt continues to look incredible.

    • Rob Staton

      We’ve never seen players like Davis and Wyatt before

    • Sea Mode

      Honest NFL
      ·Feb 7

      After a deep dive into Devonte Wyatt, I couldn’t see myself allowing my GM pass him over without challenging him to a duel of some sort. He can play anything from 0-4i and probably more in an either an even or odd front.

  32. Sea Mode

    Thibodeaux with 27 on the bench.

  33. Sea Mode

    Ah, crap. Cam Jordan on the mike was not something I needed in my day today.

  34. Blitzy the Clown

    Logan Hall is put together. Big, sturdy and moving very well in and out of the bags.

    Agreed. He looks the part, both just standing there and moving. Notwithstanding his arm length.

  35. Sea Mode

    Jordan Davis, just go home…

  36. Rob Staton

    Daniel Jeremiah back to not watching the drills and making idle chit-chat with the on-field reporters.

    ‘Did you play basketball Cam?’

    Who cares???

    And stop talking about the guys you wanted to talk about before the day started. React. Analyse. Tell us what is happening. That’s why you’re there.

    He’s just fluff. A person who blags it with the gift of the gab and the ability to hold a conversation.

    Mayock was a grinder.

  37. Rob Staton

    If Seattle has pick #10, they might’ve been able to draft Jordan Davis

    • Peter

      Finally finished this morning’s podcast with Robbie. Maybe it is time to consider the big trade?

      Not a single first for Corral. But two firsts this year for him and Davis?

      • Rob Staton

        Well, it’s worth discussing and not dismissing.

        Chandler Jones (or another) in FA, Jordan Davis at #10 and Matt Corrall at the top of round two?

        Or Wilson and maybe no Jones or Davis.

    • Blitzy the Clown

      Is it wrong of me to want Wyatt more? Not necessarily at 10, but generally. His versatility is remarkable. He can play from 0/1 to 5T and make an offense account for him everywhere, every play.

      • Peter

        I doubt either would be the wrong choice.

      • Rob Staton

        I’ll take either

  38. Sea Mode

    They are getting overshadowed by the freaks of nature out of Georgia, but Travis Jones and DeMarvin Leal are having a great day.

  39. Sea Mode

    Josh Paschal with a 10’3″ broad at 268 lbs.

    • Rob Staton

      I’ve posted some vertical jumps in the post too

  40. Blitzy the Clown

    Arnold Ebiketie is explosive

  41. Gaux Hawks

    Rob, would be great to see CB vs NKL broken out on your horizontal board (similar to DE/DT)… just a thought.

    • Rob Staton

      That’s not easy to do. They drafted a player we might think has mostly nickel potential to play outside corner a year ago.

    • Gaux Hawks

      bummed, but makes sense. really loving the coverage, thanks

  42. Sea Mode

    Athletically, if he shaved of 20 lbs. down to Aaron Donald’s weight, he could match him athletically. But why doesn’t Wyatt have better stats though, especially given he was playing on a stacked D?

    5 sacks and 12 TFL in 4 years?

    Obviously his impact went beyond those numbers (run defense, etc.), but why wouldn’t you let him just attack more with that kind of athleticism?

  43. Rob Staton

    Dominique Robinson just jumped a 41 inch vertical

    Identified him as a Seahawks sleeper in the pre-combine article

    • Sea Mode

      He just looked great as well in the wave drill.

  44. Peter

    Rob, paschal looking very explosive. You call him a power defender but is there a chance he was being misused. His TFL’s are pretty impressive.

  45. Peter

    I like Sanders but giving up 100 pounds to Davis and Davis with his numbers today…..🤯

  46. CaptainJack

    Someone explain to my why Jordan Davis isn’t a consensus top five selection. I don’t get it.

    • Peter

      Either he is not splashy enough or draft wonks already made their minds up without considering how much a game wrecker he is.

  47. Trevor

    Travis Jones is having an incredible workout but compared to Davis everyone else looks Meh.

    That has to be a top 5 all time combine workout.

    • Sea Mode

      Jones looked really, really good out there.

  48. Nano

    Cowherd reporting Bucs are angling for Russ, too. Though, he claims to be surprised.

  49. CaptainJack

    Huh. Anyone else think Sam Howell looks like he could be trubisky’s little brother? I suspect they have similar career paths as well..

  50. Sea Mode

    Barno #2 in the nation in TFL (16) in 2020, with 6.5 sacks to go with it. But then seemed to take a step back in 2021 (5.5 TFL, 3.5 sacks). Safety convert.

  51. Sea Mode

    LOL Jordan Davis just jumped 32 vert and 10’3″ broad. Unreal.

    • Rob Staton


      We are witnessing one of the all time great athletic performances

      • Sea Mode

        I hope he does the agility drills just to see.

  52. CaptainJack

    Hutchinson is actually 6’7?? Weird to be that tall and only have 32 inch arms. How many premier edge players are 6’7? Awkward measurables for him.

    • Rob Staton

      6-6 and a half

  53. Spectator

    Lot of talk about RW, but is there any reason we shouldn’t try and trade DK now? WR seem to be coming into the league in large quantities, and DK is likely to be uber expensive. Would Eagles give up 2 of their firsts for him and we could grab Jordan Davis at Lucas possibly, while replacing DK at 41? As much as i love DK, idk if he honestly is one of the upper echelon WRs, and we could potentially pull off what the Vikes did with Diggs. Trade and replace, save money.

    Or what is the thought about eagles giving 5 firsts, 2nd, Slay + for DK and RW? Would be an unprecedented trade, but its not often a team has 3 firsts in the same year either.

    • CaptainJack

      I think it would be a bad idea. Our wide receiver depth is crap behind dk and Lockett

    • Scot04

      Tough to do both in one trade.
      If you do trade Wilson though, you could easily find a 2nd suitor for DK.

  54. Sea Mode

    Sam Williams has the split, but can he bend? Didn’t look great turning the corner in that bags drill. Took a tumble at the end too.

    • Sea Mode

      Love it when I post my notes, then scroll up once the page reloads to see yours and see we’ve noticed essentially the same thing.

    • Sea Mode

      Looked poor in the hoop drill as well.

      But he has 12.5 sacks, 15 TFL, 8 QB hits, 40 hurries, 4 FF in 2021. So he’s definitely getting the job done and more.

      What’s the off-field stuff with him?

      • Seattle Person

        He was arrested and suspended by the team but the case was dismissed. His 1st-step and get off is great. His best move seems to be dipping after exploding off the line. He reminds me more of a Clowney profile. Someone who is super fast but is not a natural edge-bender. If they want another Darrell Taylor, I’m not convinced Sam Williams is it.

        • Sea Mode

          Thank you and Scot below.

        • Rob Staton

          Agreed — he’s very different to Taylor, who was all lean/bend/straighten/freaky balance

  55. Blitzy the Clown

    This DL/ED class is unreal. I’ve never seen such a collection of elite athletes at any position group in any draft before.

    • Seattle Person

      The DE group is rich with talent. But my god…The DTs are a group of aliens this year. I want one of these aliens at #41!

  56. Sea Mode

    Ojabo can MOVE

  57. TinyYardDawg79

    For those old enough to remember, Kayvan Thibodeaux reminds me of Aaron Curry. I’m really interested in Rob’s observations when Thibodeaux went against Kirkland. I know what I saw, but would love to hear Rob weigh in.

  58. Seattle Person

    A slight bummer about the Edge players. They didn’t test as freaky as expected. I am a huge Sam Williams’ fan but I agree about the concern about his change of pace. He’s fast but he doesn’t bend the corner well. He’s more like Clowney in this perspective.

    Big time crush now on the DTs in the 1st and 2nd. There is no way all of them go in the 1st do they? With teams needing WRs and QBs. In addition with some of the OL that will be over drafted.

    I’m leaning towards taking a DT if he’s still there at #41. I’m running to turn in my card if Abe Lucas falls. Joshua Paschal makes a lot of sense now at #41. I don’t think Pierce goes in the 2nd round after his performance yesterday. Logan Hall makes a bunch of sense too. Some of these Edge players might be hanging around because none of them are jumping off the screen with their testing numbers.

  59. Blitzy the Clown

    Paschal looks like he has enough sand in his pants to kick inside on passing downs

  60. Trevor

    It is a terrible QB draft but there is some incredible talent and depth. If the Hawks did trade Russ and DK they could almost completely rebuild the roster with young talent. Go with a journeyman QB or project this year and then focus on the QB next year. With the idea of competing for a Super Bowl in year 3, Carrols final year on his deal.

    • Rob Staton

      Said a few times and stand by it — you can build a foundation with this draft

  61. Blitzy the Clown

    Holy crap Trayvon Walker is an amazing athlete

    • Sea Mode


    • Peter

      Strange way to spell jordan davis. I kid.

      Walker is pretty fantastic.

  62. Sea Mode

    Per Pauline:

    The outstanding Combine workouts by the offensive linemen on Friday night are going to have ripple effects in free agency. Sources I’ve spoken with say teams will likely pull back from spending millions on available free agent offensive linemen since there are so many athletic blockers available in the draft. You can expect bargain-hunting at the position once free agency officially opens.

    Also says Steelers and Giants will make a push for Trubisky and “it’s probably going to take a lot of money to sign him”.

    • Scot04

      Sounds like all the Seahawks recent offseasons, Bargain hunting…

    • Peter

      Why would trubisky cost a lot of money? He’s a jag’s jag.

      • Sea Mode

        Desperation. Where we’ll be if Russ leaves…

        • Peter

          I’m going to rewatch Corral. If they get trade wilson i need to believe we wouldn’t be getting into the trubisky, etc, sweepstakes.

          • TomLPDX

            All we need is a game manager

            • Peter

              That and some star power at the other spots. The biggest of if’s, but if they trade him and add obvious players like Wyatt, jurgens…..okay then. My fear forever is trading him and collier, blair style drafts.

            • Sea Mode

              Um, if we didn’t need 3/5 new OL and a stud RB for a strong running game, plus a bunch of pieces for a dominant defense, then maybe I might agree with you.

              I, for one, don’t want to find out if you are right.

              • Rob Staton

                That long list, with our limited resources, shows how this team is kidding itself if they think they’re on the right track.

                They need to be aggressive or embrace the rebuild.

                • cha

                  Please keep saying this Rob. I know you will, but please don’t stop.

                  Corbin said on the Cigar podcast that ‘the Seahawks have a great roster’ and that he’s ‘not as down on this team as some of the local media are’ and then immediately pivoted to ‘they need to hit a homerun this offseason to improve.’

                  Evan thinks the Seahawks need to hand Bobby Wagner another $25m guaranteed to reduce his cap hit this year.

                  John Clayton lectured everyone not to worry because they can be aggressive with their cap despite JS saying they wouldn’t.

                  Gregg Bell is busy taking snarky victory laps about RW not being traded yet.

                  It’s like a swamp out there.

                  • Rob Staton

                    You can’t see me… but my head is in my hands.

                  • Peter

                    Not as down as some of the local media? Outside of Jake Heaps who in the local media is down on the roster?

                    It’s the “complete nerds,” ( h/t to top billin’) here on this site and Rob’s brethren on the pedestrian podcast. That’s it seemingly.

                    25 mil to extend bobby. That’s when you need to worry if someone has a gas leak in their house.

              • TomLPDX

                I said that with tongue firmly in cheek but ultimately it’s true. We have so many holes it is incredible. We need to rebuild this team from the ground up. I’m actually pondering the Corral talk and the potential picks, but have seen such terrible drafting the the last 5 years that I’m not sure it would matter.

              • Peter

                I think Tomlpdx might mean….pete seems to have wanted just a game manager to run his system

      • Rob Staton

        Because there are limited quarterback options out there and people are hoping he’s Ryan Tanehill 2.0

        • Peter

          Probably. But even tannehill is barely tanehill. He’s better in Tenn but not so much so he might not be holding them back.

          I know tomlpdx you like him. And i don’t mean to disparage him. But he really had quite the uninspiring year last year.

          • Rob Staton

            The point isn’t though whether anyone rates him or not.

            You asked why he’s going to get big money. The answer is as said — because there are limited options, thus he has a market, because people are going to take a shot on him being Tannehill.

            It doesn’t mean they are convinced he’ll succeed. It’s simply a better plan than most of the other crappy options, with no long term consequences if it fails.

            • Peter

              I think I’d rather role the dice, all things considered on a rookie qb. Low cost. Fingers crossed on development. Blow a pick.

              Sometimes in life a crap option is a crap option. You’re not wrong that teams will feel anything anyone is better than what they are doing.

              I admire Washington cutting to the chase and calling on everyone. Better to go down swinging. Than to chase down mediocrity.

              • Rob Staton

                But again — that’s fine for you to have that opinion. I’m just answering your question about why there’s interest in Trubisky.

                • Peter

                  Rob i totally get it.

                  I can never really get the sarcasm to work here.

                  I didn’t mean realistically “why would a team do that.” Gm’s have to make all kinds of tough choices. Part of football that’s maddening is that it’s often the hope that kills you. With this class? Obviously someone is going to pay him a good chunk.

          • TomLPDX

            I’m a Tannelhill fan because I’m an Aggie homer. I think he is a good QB and has bouts of bad games, just like Russ has. It’s like Jason Myer this past year. He had a really bad year, but is there someone else better than him? Ready to role the dice on that one too?

            • Peter

              I don’t know Tennessee’s ins and outs. I’d rather role with tanehill than a rookie in this class. But they (the titans) don’t need to make a decision. Per the report mentioning the steelers…if I were the steelers i would rather role the dice on 2nd round ridder, or Corral who is mobile, avvurate, and will be cheap as heck for three years abd they (the steelers) wouldn’t be any worse for trying than paying trubisky.

              • TomLPDX

                I’m actually glad we aren’t in the same spot the Steelers are in this year. They have problems at QB but the D is solid and the rest of the O isn’t far off from contending…except for a new QB. Rudolph is not their answer and if they are seriously contemplating Aaron Rodgers it will cost them a fortune.

            • Peter

              I don’t follow kickers in college so i really wouldn’t know. Plus i’m not that down on myer. Easier said than done but part of me thinks I’d like to not follow a team that has to worry so much about their kicker like the middle late 2000 seahawks and last years seahawks.

              • TomLPDX

                I’m a Myer supporter too. I’d like to see him get a chance at redemption…maybe restructure his deal this year to make it more palatable.

  63. Sea Mode

    Anyone know who the Seahawks scout standing next to the EDGE group all day is? Probably just some assistant, but I’m curious.

  64. Blitzy the Clown

    Something about Deangelo Malone reminds me of Bruce Irvin

    Maybe just his overall stature

    • Rob Staton

      Looks great with the extra weight

  65. Palatypus

    Has any Seahawk ran 4.9 at 325+ since Cortez Kennedy?

  66. Sea Mode

    Mafe 38 vert

  67. Sea Mode

    Well, I have to check out again. Find us a nice WILL for day 3 pls! Good night, all.

  68. Blitzy the Clown

    Wow just watched Jordan Davis live and what a personality! To go with unprecedented athleticism and size. How is he not being talked about as a potential number one pick?

    Also, did i read correctly that Wyatt interviewed poorly?

  69. Sea Mode

    Jordan Davis is 6-6 and 340lbs but he will be one of the stars of the combine. He will run quicker than anyone expects and make headlines.

    -Rob Staton, Dec. 6

    • Rob Staton

      Thanks for digging that out 🙂

  70. BobbyK

    Who cares about Jordan Davis?

    We have Jamal Lee Adams!

    Nevermind the pick last year that should have been used on Javonte Williams.

    • BobbyK

      I’d rather pay 2 1st round picks and make Alan’s boy the highest paid safety ever than have two young studs on rookie (cheap) contracts.

      Pete is so smart.

      • TomLPDX

        You’re getting insufferable, Bobby! 😉 Almost as bad as Big Mike! (double wink!)

        • Big Mike

          🦚 🦚 🦚

          • TomLPDX

            We need a coffee cup emoji as well. Probably cost $2000 to use it though.

            • Big Mike


  71. Big Mike

    Guys, if you’re Baalke and Davis is this impressive, do you take him first overall and figure you can get a tackle with the first pick in round 2?

    • TomLPDX

      Seems reasonable. You are going to get *someone* good on the OLine in Rd 2 regardless.

  72. Blitzy the Clown

    Channing Tindall running a 4.53 is quicker, funnily enough, than I expected. He flies around the field but I thought he’d still be a 4.6 type. That’s an impressive time.

    Came to say the same thing. He ran faster than I thought. Confirms the pursuit speed you see on the field.

  73. Blitzy the Clown

    Channing Tindall said he was a freak of nature. That has been confirmed.


    Also, Leo Chenal putting up 40.5″ and 10-8 at 250 lbs is attention worthy.

    • Peter

      I try every year to watch a lot of stuff but never ceases to amaze how Rob finds these guys. Chenal. I never would thought one iota about him. Tindal i knew a bit of but Chenal….way go go out there and get yourself noticed.

  74. Henry Taylor

    Leo Chanel man… I’ve loved Bobby as much as any Seahawk ever, but if you offered me Chanel and 16m in cap space I’m taking that every single day.

  75. Blitzy the Clown

    Tindall with the self tip

  76. Mike

    Devin Lloyd is still really good though, better football player than athletes like Isaiah Simmons.

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