re: Josh Gordon. With news that Cleveland brass has been aware for two weeks…does the league also share that information with other teams, or are they just now finding out this afternoon, like the rest of us? Curious, as the news could greatly change a team’s draft strategy depending on what they think Cleve’s needs are/were
CD
Trade Dallas and Wash, that would be like San Fran and Seattle making a trade…that would not happen
Kenny Sloth
Poor Dallas. Giving high picks to division rivals…
Kenny Sloth
I could see LNIII
Kenny Sloth
Great pick for Dallas. DeMarcus Lawrence should be great on the strong side. Hope they can coach him up.
Eric
Wish we could get a trade like that – a 3rd for a few steps back would be gladly received.
Eric
Not certain if you’re reading these, Rob, but if so:
If the Hawks can’t find a trade partner at 40, and assuming all the relevant players are still on the board, who do you choose?
bigDhawk
I’m not on the twitters, but I am listening and will post any comments here. Thanks for doing this solo Rob. No better analysis anywhere.
bigDhawk
I’m thinking a trade down from 40. There are still so many players likely high on our board still available, even without Bitonio.
Kenny Sloth
What’s up with the harpsichord?
Michael M.
NOOO!! Bitonio!!!
Kenny Sloth
OH MY GOD. There goes Bitonio.
Cysco
Man, first Easley, then Bitonio. Lame.
Eric
So surely we go receiver at 40 now (assuming we pick there at all). Is Lee worth the risk, or do you think they look elsewhere?
Matt
Rob THANKS a ton for doing the broadcast – watching ESPN on mute while listening to your analysis.
I’ve always been curious about how you got so interested into the NFL and Hawks from the other side of the pond – at some point during downtime here perhaps you can share a little about your story!
Eric
Is Jacksonville the greatest risk for taking Latimer?
Misfit74
I think the Jags will take Moses.
SHawn
Is Lee’s knee an issue for us, or could he be the receiver we take at 40? I heard a lot of teams took him off their board completely.
Arias
Ahahaha. I remember that Green Bay game Rob. Alexander ran for 200 yards.
Troy
Ra’Shede Hageman @#40 and @#64 Bryant?
bigDhawk
Nope 🙁 Hageman to Atlanta
Philip
Rob — If we take a receiver at #40, then what would you expect at #64?
Michael M.
Well, unless Latimer and Lee are the next 2…
Kenny Sloth
Hageman looks pissed.
Jarhead
We really COULD Latimer at 40… I am hesitant but that really would solidify brilliant foresight and amazing luck by the Hawks FO. ..
Arias
seahawks hq live feed got lots of activity
Michael M.
Come on Latimer!!!
Bill
what do you think about Trent Murphy DE, Stanford? A Jared Allen type. seems like a Seahawk type guy, maybe this round?
Don
We need latimer at 40 and OT at 64
Troy
did we just trade out again???
Troy
What did we get to trade back yet again?
SHawn
Traded 40
Cysco
Latimer please
Don
Whew! A WR at #39…. Not Latimer.
Jarhead
Wow…. This is getting ridiculous… We have to make a pick eventually right?
Cysco
Yay. I’m ok with another trade. did we get another 4th?
Michael M.
Well I really don’t think Latimer is going to be the pick. If they really liked him, they wouldn’t be getting cute here.
Troy
What did we get by trading back? and where are we picking now???
Bill
45
SalukiHawk
Looks like we gave up our later 5th for their 4th and a 7th
Cysco
All the Picks!
Jarhead
Hey let’s go Carlos Hyde! Beast Mode jr.! You know I called it months ago Rob. Hahaha
EranUngar
Seahawks have traded #Pick40 and #Pick146 (5th) to @DetroitLionsNFL for #Pick45 (2nd) #Pick111 (4th) and #Pick227 (7th).
EranUngar
Why would we give up the 5th ? that’s the best round historically. (Willson, Sherman, Chancellor…)
bigDhawk
KJW was 4th, if I recall. We can draft well there, if there is value, which PC/JS apparently think there is.
Fudwamper
I think rob it comes down to filling up depth for cheap and not the starter today. There was a good piece on Field gulls about draft economics maybe they are one of the teams that believe reality and not their gut.
EranUngar
To be honest – the math supports more late picks over high profile few top rounders.
AndrewB
St Louis go Jean-Babtiste here?
Cysco
They must really like one of Montcrief/Bryant/Coleman and must assume that they’re safe moving down. Seattle’s done this before. They know the sweet spot where they can get “their guy”.
Cysco
Oh gawd, if STL gets Latimer….
bigDhawk
If St Louis takes Latimer I’ll be torqued.
Hawk meat
If giants do…I will be too
seaspunj
Makes me wonder if the Seahawks wanted Bitonio and traded down again because their guy is not there … I hope we get a WR and OL with these next 2 picks
Cysco
very possible, though they must not have valued him that high or they would have taken him at 32
Don
So Seahawks value more average players instead of fewer highly talented players.
I disagree with the approach, it will lead to an average team. You can’t coach up everybody to be all pro’s. They are going to screw around and lose some good players
John W
Don, pretty sure they know what they are doing. They have a team of great players who were not drafted high.
Hawk meat
It sure worked out so far…Super Bowl win and all
Don
Well, if you accept this logic, why not trade all of the hawks picks for all 32 7th rd picks. Yes, that will work really well!
Hawk meat
Um. ok. sure. smh
This type of conversation occurred when Pete and John first arrived. I would think there would be more trust in them by now.
JeffC
I think what Don is saying is that they are probably getting too cute and missing out on what they wanted and continuing to trade down because of that. That all these trades are not some part of a master plan but a result of things not falling their way.
hawkmeat
Perhaps. It sounds more like complaining because players he likes aren’t picked. Always kills me people on the internet think they know more than professional scouts for nfl teams.
bigDhawk
Yeah, just a bunch of pedestrians.
Eric
High round players that made a large impact in our Superbowl win:
– Earl Thomas
– Russel Okung
Percy Harvin was injured too much of the season. Bruce Irvin could be argued.
The remainder of the roster was taken in these later rounds, and hardly resulted in an average team.
Fudwamper
Well the math says different
EranUngar
Why would you say that?
Yes, they can, they did and they will do.
They don’t pick average players, they smartly pick highly talented players that others fail to spot and value.
Cysco
I’m ok with that one. They hit home runs in the first. This was a ground out to third.
Troy
Seems as if we gained some solid value by trading back and still lots of quality guys still left there.
Jarhead
What did we have planned this whole time? I want to know who they had up their sleeve…
Troy
Do we trade back yet again? Lol
Curt
WR Colorado St. ?
SHawn
No, Colorado.
Curt
Paul Richardson? What round did you have him going Rob?
bigDhawk
Paul Richardson…in PC/JS I trust!!!
bigDhawk
Remeber JS said one thing they were trying to do better this year that they have not done as well in previous years is get to know the character of the player. Maybe Richardson is much more of a Seahawks character type than Latimer or Bryant. We know his measurables. We should get to know more about his character it seems.
Jarhead
Cue the fail music from the Price Is Right… Can’t say this pick gets me very excited…
Cysco
I have no idea how to react to that pick. lol
so seahawks
Troy
Should have traded back yet again to take Richardson.
bigDhawk
Probably had no offers.
Curt
Do you think they could have kept trading down for him?
Troy
Yes, had him graded as a 3rd RD pick
Hawk meat
You never know
drrew
Love it. I’ve been banging the drum on Richardson for awhile. The numbers he put up while being essentially the entire Colorado offense were off the charts.
David M
not sure on this one, but JS/PC knows best. if he is fast, him and harbin can streach the field
Cade
What kind of competitor is he?
EranUngar
Wooow…..
For our 32 pick we got Richardson a 4th, a 7th and a move up from 5th to 4th. Can’t get any better then that….
Everybody repeat after me – Thank you JS, we are not worthy….
I guess they didn’t see Latimer and the others the same way we did.
bigDhawk
If Richardson turns into TY Hilton I think we did good.
Burner
Twitter was convinced we took Tiny Richardson!!
Kenny Sloth
Underwhelming
Forrest
I like it…would have preferred Latimer, but I like it…
drrew
As a player, Paul Richardson is Desean Jackson 2.0, which at 45 is a steal.
He didn’t return kicks in college, but I suspect he fills that role right off the bat.
Brian
How fast is he going to be when he has to add 25 pounds?
Jarhead
Anyone listening to Rob should pay attention- drops passes. Remember Koren Robinson. All the physical tools you could want but couldn’t catch a pass to save his life. I just am still scratching my head. So the 180 lb WR is going to be run blocking and breaking tackles like Tate? Oh well. Number 64 is coming up…
drrew
Richardson had a lower dropped pass % than M. Bryant, M. Lee, D. Moncrief, and K. Benjamin. He certainly had too many drops, but there were worse numbers among players that a lot of people liked.
EranUngar
At 4.33 40 you don’t break tackles, you runnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
AlaskaHawk
This is totally underwhelming. The main thing a wide receiver has to do is catch passes. We gave up Latimer for this? PC has only found one wide receiver in the high rounds.
Ben2
Hmmm…. Baptiste or Moncrief I would’ve been more excited about.
Don
Underwhelming. I don’t know, when I compared most of the top WR’s, Latimer, Matthews, Bryant were better than Richardson.
EranUngar
Seems they value speed over durability and winning the contested shots. They have Kearse and Baldwin for it….
The same way Desean Jackson did on his way to 1300+ yards last season. Quickness, speed, and body control.
stuart
ARE YOU SERIOUS? Somebody talk me off the ledge…
With all the trading down, this, this, this, F***!
Short, skinny, small hands, lots of drops, but he has something, WHAT IS IT?
Cody Latimer, we will watch your career and remember this day……………….
Hawk meat
No reason to be upset over a pick. This happens every year.
Burner
Get a grip man 🙂
I’m sure our guys know what they are doing.
Ben2
Reeks of Deon Butler. Hope I’m wrong.
Don
JS/ PC has a history of missing on WR picks.
Ben2
Latimer – would’ve loved that pick better too….Coleman was on the board….Ughhh
O
Coleman? Really? Don’t worry he’ll still be there tomorrow.
Hawk meat
I am hopeful. I did want Latimer
Jeff M.
Football Outsiders’ Playmaker Rating (regression-based predictive model) has Paul Richardson tied for 5th (with Robinson) behind only Cooks, Beckham, Lee, Adams (and ahead of Watkins, Evans, etc.).
Yes. Richardson is a good player. I don’t understand the negative reaction.
Hawk meat
I don’t either. Especially with our team and f.o.
I suppose for many bummed because people fall in love with players in the first few rounds.
kstreet
I didn’t know much of Richardson, but his routes look really clean. Better than any route Tate ran. With him and Harvin spreading the field I think it opens things up real good.
RJ
Have you no faith? This is an EXPLOSIVE athlete. 4.33 40 at the combine. Hands are fine. Great route runner.
Brian
Then he’s a major injury concern around his current weight, yes?
Brian
Just not sure if we need another injury prone receiver…he’s already had a history with ACL issues
Colin
Something is clearly wrong with Cody Latimer. A specimen of his should be gone by now.
connor
Not gonna lie, hate this pick.Paul Richardson is pretty much a undersized receiver with bad hands, who can’t make plays in traffic and will occasionally make a big play. How you take him over a guy like Martavis Bryant or Latimer doesn’t make a lot of sense to me. Actually there is probably at least 10 more receivers I would’ve taken over Richardson, I hope I’m wrong.
drrew
Martavis Bryant is a track athlete who occasionally plays football.
At least you could claim Latimer actually has shown some football skills and production, Bryant has shown none.
connor
I get having some concerns about Bryant’s character or passion but to say he hasn’t shown anything on a football field, I just can’t agree with that. We’re talking about a guy who is 6’4 can get behind defenses and can high point the football and go over db’s.
Also I wanna correct myself I shouldn’t say Paul Richardson has bad hands. But he has inconsistent hands and some really bad drops without the talent of say a Kelvin Benjamin.
Colin
Let’s not forget, John Schneider commented last night they were excited how round 3 and 4 were shaping up. That’s where they have made their money.
Stuart
So many other players available at #45…WR Jeff Janis late 5th Round could end up being better…at the very least, Richardson needs to be able to return punts…but doesn’t…WOW…JUST WOW…
He is a Hawk now, welcome to Seattle, home of the World Champion’s!
drrew
Just wondering how often you saw Paul Richardson play?
Madmark
PC/JS with that pick really are pushing the envelop of trust here. I got to give them the benefit of the doubt but I think they could have traded farther down for better picks if they really want Richardson. I’m defiantly one of those guys against really small receivers.
O
I think they tried, the pick came at the end of the 7 minutes count down
Nathan
Just watched Paul Richardson do a brilliant one handed catch against Oregon, excited, although I am a little worried about the drops.
Steve
Has elements of Desean….but I think we got another TY Hilton….except a little bigger.
If he can do to others what TY did to the Hawks last year….I’d say we got the right guy.
Brandon
Count me in hating this pick. This is not Desean Jackson, this guy runs 4.4 not 4.3 and he is very slight. I liked trading down, just not the pick. Boo!
drrew
He’s been measured at 4.33…Jackson ran 4.35 at the combine.
Brandon
Richardson did not run 4.3 at the combine. Jackson did. I think you d also find d Jackson ran faster at his pro day than the combine as well. I’m not a fan of Jackson, and Richardson is no djax.
Nathan
What are the chances Hyde comes off the board soon?
Madmark
Tavin Austin comes to mind and what has he done for St.Louis
Colin
Tavon Austin plays with Sam Bradford and a Schottenheimer descendant offensive coordinator… cmon now.
Vin
Like most of the other posters on here, I’m speechless. On paper, sure seems like we could’ve done better. I’m not sure what the fascination they have with the smaller receivers. Obviously can’t judge this one for awhile. In JS we trust.
Burner
Richardson averaged 16.2 yards per catch as a senior! I’ll have some of that.
CD
Does Richardson return punts?
Colin
Seems like most people hate the Paul richardson pick largely because Rob hasn’t talked about him like he has Moncrief, Latimer, etc.
connor
Also his tape.
Burner
Spot on. I’ll bet half the guys slagging the pick off have never even seen him play.
We should know by now not to be shocked by anything JC/PC do in the draft. But they still confound you with picks like this. I’m sure Richardson is going to bring a new element to our passing attack, not the big guy that was much touted, but a legitimate vertical threat that will open up the underneath for Harvin and Baldwin.
Jarhead
Yeah weren’t we all surprised when they drafted Carpenter at RT and Irvin at DE? How have those panned out? And notice I said Irvin at DE. We just got lucky that he made a decent transition to OLB. This reeks of those picks. And also does he have to sit a year like Michaels? Do we expect him to beat out Baldwin, Kearse, and Harvin for playing time?
RJ
I’m gonna quit reading these comments now. I wanna drink the cool aid!
Hawk meat
Wise choice
M
Think they got too cute–rolled the dice once too often. Real crapshoot of a pick but perhaps the extra picks pay off…
sdcoug
We keep talking about giving Russ a bailout on scrambles with a big WR. I guess there’s another way…give him someone who can simply run away from coverage on broken plays. last year it seemed like guys often couldn’t get open when a play broke down. might be a good pick
Nathan
What do you think of the possibility of drafting another wide receiver at some point if the value is there?
Hawk meat
Man. The cardinals are killing it. Niklas…. Hate them getting this guy
Aaron
Doug Baldwin called the pick on Softy today. Said he would be great fit because of attitude and work ethic. Podcast isn’t up yet.
We will be seeing Latimer and Bryant when SF picks one of them
Hawk meat
They are set at WR after getting Stevie Johnson….for a steal
Stuart
Based on the Field Gulls Scoring Chart, Richardson scored a 6.49, was listed as a 3rd rounder and there were FIVE other receivers still on the board who surpassed him.
Cody Latimer, Donte Moncrief, Allen Robinson, Bruce Ellington, Martavis Bryant.
I would have loved it if they picked Jarvis Landry instead since the Hawks are in the mindset of drafting WR rated to go in Round 3, not to mention Brandon Coleman….
bob
Don’t understand the pick. Why didn’t they go TE, Jace Amaro or a bigger receiver? Don’t know how this guys body will last.
HaHa….OMG, Pete and John do it to us again. Speed, speed and more speed….all in for speed. Richardson ran an electronic 4.28 in January. Lines up as an X SE, not a slot. Certainly not the prototype X. This was clearly their choice, not a fall back guy. Could have had Lee, Latimer, Bryant, Matthews, Robinson, Moncrief, etc….but obviously targeted this guy, knowing they could trade back and still have him. I guess Pete also plans to re-write the X position as well as what he had done to DBs….Richardson is faster even than Percy. We continue to be amazed. Funny thing is….Doug Baldwin called this. He was interviewed this afternoon on KJR and they asked him who he would take and he said Paul Richardson, fastest and most dangerous WR in the draft. Asked if it should be a taller guy, he said no…..speed.
Trudy Beekman
You can see that he plays with that “pissed off for greatness” edge. Latimer, Robinson, Adams, Landry still there. Strengths/weaknesses, this guy is literally the OPPOSITE of Cody Latimer.
Can’t say I’m excited about this pick, but with them trading down twice you knew they had a specific guy in mind and I thought it was gonna be LDT or something. Still enough receivers on board to double dip and let them battle it out in camp.
I guess the X receiver is what this team was missing. OW you move around and get the ball to in space with Percy, Baldwin/Kearse as the possession guys, Richardson blowing the top off? TY Hilton is a good comparison. Mike Wallace also comes to mind.
USAFANARC
P-Rich is going to be the next DeSean Jackson. Tilt the field speed. Yeah, I’m drinking the kool-aide.
Cade
Maybe Seattle thinks they are set okay in the big and tall dept. with S. Rice and Chris Matthews.
Is Paul a punt returner?
bigDhawk
Has the live feed crashed for anyone else? Mine is dead. Rebooted my computer and everything.
USAFANARC
Yes. Feed is dead.
CD
Yes, dead.
Nathan
Did you hear about RG3 being traded to the Rams?
Johnny L
Well damn, Latimer to the Broncos…
bigDhawk
At least SF didn’t get him. And they traded out of the spot where he went, even.
Hawk meat
That sucks.
Nathan
I have been wanting to ask a Seahawks analasist, What is your opinion about Terrelle Pryor being picked up? As an Ohio State fan, I just want to make sure he is in the right place.
kstreet
The negativity on here is disheartening. Look at the guy’s hip when he runs routes. He has Ricardo Lockette speed with actual route running skills. His size and hands may be an issue, but don’t cast this guy off before he has a chance.
For the record, I was defending one Russell Wilson from those naysayers the day of his draft pick up in 2012. I might have gotten lucky, but I might have seen something beyond size. Although, I’m truly no Rob Staton, so I defer to his expertise…
Got kicked out of the last chat. New Hang Out loaded up and we’re back on air. So refresh the page and click the top youtube video to watch LIVE.
Colin
WE can hear you.
Cysco
roger that rob. can hear you fine
kstreet
Back online.
CD
Its back guys, just reload the page and look for the new play button
Jon
we got you back
Glor
9rs just took a RB
Cysco
I wonder if PCJS realize that they’ve got the league going for big and tall secondary so now they go the opposite direction with their receivers. Speed kills.
Don
PR may have speed but it doesn’t do any good if he drops half of his passes.
8-7/8″ hands! Very small for a WR
His “Highlight film shows him catching most of the catches in his body, not his hands. What good is he in the red zone when the field is crowded and he can’t fight for the ball?
Dude
Don’t know much about this guy. But the speed is interesting. But if he could be like a T.Y Hilton, that is exciting.
I think i was more surprised that Carrol passed on Lee. He was so dynamic a few years back.
Maybe we need to reflect on what Carrol really likes at WR. Everyone seems to think that he wants the big 6’5 Mike Williams clone. However, they really have only brought in the Jackson type player.
“Paul Richardson separates and gets open unlike any other receiver I’ve seen in this draft. His speed isn’t just an idea or a concept as is the case with Jordan Matthews. Every single ounce of speed Richardson has translates onto the football field.”
Would love to see if Rob agrees after further reveiw
JeffC
Maybe in two years PC envisions the most explosive team in NFL history, with Richardson deep, Harvin taking sweeps, screens, and middle of the field, Luke Willson at TE, Christine Michael at RB, and Baldwin setting up to gobble up first downs if everyone is covered.
That is, if we can keep RW healthy.
USAFANARC
Who are your top guys that are left at this point?
Drago
2 complete speedsters on the field at the same time, with a beast in the backfield and Mr Clutch at both QB and Slot receiver. I am warming to the idea more and more.
I had become enamoured by Latimer and i’m really glad he went to the AFC. As long as Richardson is healthy though (my BIGGEST worry is the ACL problem he had, but you have to assume he’s checked out more than fine) then I think we will love this selection.
Also – team captain, that’s another guy who will be all in, competitive and driven. Feel he could be the competition with Percy to push him to even greater heights.
sdcoug
Richardson may not help Red Zone, but as I mentioned earlier, it seemed like Tate/Baldwin really struggled to break free when Russ scrambled last year. Being able to run away from coverage is a valuable skill…
Colin
Yes, Grigson getting Exec. of the Year was a joke. Similar to Luke Kuechly getting DPOY. Good player, but several better candidates got snubbed. PFWA seems to be blinded by popularity when making decisions.
Stuart
Paul Richardson-Analysis from NFL.com
DRAFT PROJECTION Rounds 3-4 (WHOOPS)
STRENGTHS Jab steps and accelerates into routes. Fluid and field fast. Chews up ground with long strides. Stretches the field vertically and can run under deep throws. Can drive off corners, break off and work back to the quarterback. Can extend to pluck off his frame. Shows he’s capable of making the spectacular grab. Productive despite a poor supporting cast. Has a 38-inch vertical jump.
WEAKNESSES Is very lean. Needs to bulk up and get stronger. Has been injured and durability could be an issue. Vulnerable to the jam. Does not separate consistently — needs to become a more refined, deceptive route runner. Average burst out of breaks. Lets some throws into his body and drops throws he shouldn’t. Gets out-muscled at the catch point for 50-50 balls. Limited run strength. Underpowered blocker.
BOTTOM LINE Very lean, narrow-framed, finesse “X” receiver who made an immediate impact at Colorado before knee injuries derailed his progress. Measurables will go a long way in determining his ultimate draft value, and his success at the next level is dependent upon his ability to make plays in the vertical passing game. Has a boom-or-bust element. Size and durability are question marks.
-Nolan Nawrocki
I would love to eat crow, please make me eat crow, I want to say I was wrong and I am so sorry….
Don
I am not convinced.
I would take Latimer and Matthews over him. There are skinny track guys who are fast and have small hands and drops a lot of catches (Richardson), and there are football players who are fast enough and can make the tough catches in traffic.
Hawks already have Harvin and Lockett, they should have got Latimer or Matthews who can play every down and make the tough catches and BLOCK downfield.
Wrong pick
hawkmeat
So negative.
I think John and Pete know better, and what they want for their program.
JC
With Harvin and now Richardson, could Pete be building a passing game more akin to Chip Kelly then Carroll’s USC? What Imean by that is receivers with too much speed to ignore but make thier money on quick routes and YAC then use an explosive running back to take advantage of the space.
Arias
In other words, is Carroll going soft and creating a finesse team?
dt
Hmmm… that’s the second time the Niners traded down to allow a trade partner to jump up to pick a WR (Latimer and Robinson) before Seahawks’ spot.
bigDhawk
So does Richardson mean that Chris Matthews is more than just a warm training camp body? Is he our red zone and red line winner?
David M
That’s what I’m thinking, and hoping!!
Kenny Sloth
We got a home run hitter. Another one. We have so many…
Cysco
OK, I’m calling Brent Urban at 64. Probably a reach, but he’ll be gone by the 4th.
Off the charts physical characteristics. Seems like a seahawky pick
Don
Urban is still working on American Idol. He is too skinny.
Hawk meat
Condotta suggests hawks picks a OL, cable on the phone.
Hawk meat
Moses?
bigDhawk
I’ll call Tiny Richardson at 64
connor
I think Billy Turner could be a sleeper here.
bigDhawk
Whoa! Justin Britt?!?!? Who knew.
bigDhawk
This is 100% Cabes.
Cysco
lol
Oh Seahawks.
Why do we even try to predict what you’ll do.
connor
I know nothing about Justin Britt but in JSPC we trust!
Ben2
Who is this guy? Anybody w/a scouting report?
Colin
Okay. Haven’t heard much about him, but maybe that’s a good thing.
Colin
I’m watching some Justin Britt tape vs Georgia. It’s not encouraging.
David M
I just watched it… Not good so far, obviously Cable sees something very positive in him to take him over Moses
Trudy Beekman
Hahaha just watched that as well. Abysmal. Nice kick-step, but gets absolutely abused by the bull-rush. Looks undraftable based on that. Looks pretty good getting to the second level and blocking in space. I don’t get it.
CD
Sando says he was projected for late round, maybe in the 5th
Kenny Sloth
Justin Britt is damn tough. Good candidate for the right side. He swallows people. Long, strong, built well. I like his bubble.
Can’t think of a better place as to spend the draft as a Seahawks fan. Thanks so much for doing this Rob. I anxiously await your sage analysis in the days to come. GO HAWKS!!
Troy
Our next picks are what #s?
David Ess
pick 8 and 11 and 32nd in the 4th round.
Cysco
Thanks for the coverage Rob!
More entertaining than listening to the national coverage.
Brett S
We hear ya!!
David Ess
love the Prich pick, he played around 158-161 and now says hes up to 183, lets hope that translates well for him.
the lineman Britt, apparently had a good game against Clowney this year so that’s encouraging.
excited for tomorrow, 3 picks in the 4th! go hawks!
Kelly Orr
The more i think about the Richardson pick the more i like it. Pete Carroll and John Schneider seems to me want to be able to scare people on the outside by stretching the field vertically and horizontally. Richardson himself said the fastest 40 he has ran is 4.28. Now the Britt pick? 100% Cable’s i am assuming so that is his baby to groom and get ready.
Brett
You’re back.
George
You’re good.
Steve Nelsen
Britt was under the radar after an average Combine but he had an awesome pro day and set several personal records. He was 1st team All-SEC and started 14 games at LT. Seattle loves SEC players.
Brian
Just watched game tape on Justin Britt. Looks like a 5th/6th rounder.
Terrible pick.
David M
People said the same about Richard Sherman. Don’t be so quick to to judge
Chris
In what way? Please explain?
He doesn’t get burned. He’s almost never out of position.
He doesn’t seem powerful to me, but he seems very technically sound. I don’t know how someone can look at his tape and say he sucks. He rarely “loses”. He just doesn’t dominate.
hawkmeat
I love it when people jump to calling picks terrible. Have people learned nothing?
Bleacher report dialog, recall RW was a terrible pick.
I will trust professional scouts over someone on the net.
Madmark
I hate to say it but I’m a little disappointed in our first 2 picks. My biggest reason is not the picks themselves but where they were picked. They could have got Richardson at 64 and Britt in the 4th with 108. If this was there plan to begin with they could have traded 40 and got so many more picks later . I’m thinking that the draft really didn’t go the way they were thinking Easley gone at 29 trade back. Joel Bitinio gone 35 Trade back to 45. Kouanjio goes at 44. I really think they reach this year and I’m hoping I’m wrong. I mean moncrief has fallen due to drops but he has hands that are an inch bigger than Richardson and has the size of Chris Harper a 4th round draft pick last year. Lockette was and still is a speedster. Am I just missing something because I haven’t had a drink tonight.
David Ess
if you want some reassurance on the pick, listen to tom cables interview. i guess Britt was going to be picked a few spots behind the hawks.
Mad….we have spent the past six months devouring conventional wisdom on draft picks, guys being analyzed by the consensus standards in the NFL. But Pete and John are totally outside the box. At this point, none of us have learned to get into their heads. But they are proven right and we are proven wrong. We simply can’t analyze a prospect and see what they see.
All the guys you mention, and all the others mentioned here for the past months….Latimer, Bitonio, Moses, Bryant, Kouandjio, and on and on….all of them could have been had at 32, most again at 40 and many again at 45. The fact is, the Seahawks chose these guys over those other guys for a reason….it is just that none of us can see their reasons, not us and not anyone in the NFL at this point. Sit back and enjoy the ride.
Chris
Reminds me a lot of R. Wilson.
The only real knock against this guy is his size.
I watched this guy before the draft and thought he was fantastic. He was small (although okay heightwise), so I assumed the Latimers and Bryants, etc, were better because everyone had them mocked higher. No one really talked about this guy at all so I assumed I was crazy. Dismissed him myself and threw him down my WR depth chart even though I liked him more than folks I put above him.
I love this pick.
With a truth serum, best pure WR talent next to Watkins, Cooks and Evans (in a different way). Worried about his slight frame.
Let’s see what you got Paul.
SeaTown
I love the “we could have gotten these guys later in the draft” comments as if you all know the other 31 teams draft boards. LOL Let’s get to training camp and then we can start to assess whether or not these were good picks.
hawkmeat
Exactly. None of these comments are based in reality. The nfl teams, scouts, would have a better idea if a player may be picked soon. They are professional scouts, and know what fits their scheme. Plus you cannot know what a player will develop into until a year or more depending on position. Calling a pick terrible before the field is taken is just goofy.
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re: Josh Gordon. With news that Cleveland brass has been aware for two weeks…does the league also share that information with other teams, or are they just now finding out this afternoon, like the rest of us? Curious, as the news could greatly change a team’s draft strategy depending on what they think Cleve’s needs are/were
Trade Dallas and Wash, that would be like San Fran and Seattle making a trade…that would not happen
Poor Dallas. Giving high picks to division rivals…
I could see LNIII
Great pick for Dallas. DeMarcus Lawrence should be great on the strong side. Hope they can coach him up.
Wish we could get a trade like that – a 3rd for a few steps back would be gladly received.
Not certain if you’re reading these, Rob, but if so:
If the Hawks can’t find a trade partner at 40, and assuming all the relevant players are still on the board, who do you choose?
I’m not on the twitters, but I am listening and will post any comments here. Thanks for doing this solo Rob. No better analysis anywhere.
I’m thinking a trade down from 40. There are still so many players likely high on our board still available, even without Bitonio.
What’s up with the harpsichord?
NOOO!! Bitonio!!!
OH MY GOD. There goes Bitonio.
Man, first Easley, then Bitonio. Lame.
So surely we go receiver at 40 now (assuming we pick there at all). Is Lee worth the risk, or do you think they look elsewhere?
Rob THANKS a ton for doing the broadcast – watching ESPN on mute while listening to your analysis.
I’ve always been curious about how you got so interested into the NFL and Hawks from the other side of the pond – at some point during downtime here perhaps you can share a little about your story!
Is Jacksonville the greatest risk for taking Latimer?
I think the Jags will take Moses.
Is Lee’s knee an issue for us, or could he be the receiver we take at 40? I heard a lot of teams took him off their board completely.
Ahahaha. I remember that Green Bay game Rob. Alexander ran for 200 yards.
Ra’Shede Hageman @#40 and @#64 Bryant?
Nope 🙁 Hageman to Atlanta
Rob — If we take a receiver at #40, then what would you expect at #64?
Well, unless Latimer and Lee are the next 2…
Hageman looks pissed.
We really COULD Latimer at 40… I am hesitant but that really would solidify brilliant foresight and amazing luck by the Hawks FO. ..
seahawks hq live feed got lots of activity
Come on Latimer!!!
what do you think about Trent Murphy DE, Stanford? A Jared Allen type. seems like a Seahawk type guy, maybe this round?
We need latimer at 40 and OT at 64
did we just trade out again???
What did we get to trade back yet again?
Traded 40
Latimer please
Whew! A WR at #39…. Not Latimer.
Wow…. This is getting ridiculous… We have to make a pick eventually right?
Yay. I’m ok with another trade. did we get another 4th?
Well I really don’t think Latimer is going to be the pick. If they really liked him, they wouldn’t be getting cute here.
What did we get by trading back? and where are we picking now???
45
Looks like we gave up our later 5th for their 4th and a 7th
All the Picks!
Hey let’s go Carlos Hyde! Beast Mode jr.! You know I called it months ago Rob. Hahaha
Seahawks have traded #Pick40 and #Pick146 (5th) to @DetroitLionsNFL for #Pick45 (2nd) #Pick111 (4th) and #Pick227 (7th).
Why would we give up the 5th ? that’s the best round historically. (Willson, Sherman, Chancellor…)
KJW was 4th, if I recall. We can draft well there, if there is value, which PC/JS apparently think there is.
I think rob it comes down to filling up depth for cheap and not the starter today. There was a good piece on Field gulls about draft economics maybe they are one of the teams that believe reality and not their gut.
To be honest – the math supports more late picks over high profile few top rounders.
St Louis go Jean-Babtiste here?
They must really like one of Montcrief/Bryant/Coleman and must assume that they’re safe moving down. Seattle’s done this before. They know the sweet spot where they can get “their guy”.
Oh gawd, if STL gets Latimer….
If St Louis takes Latimer I’ll be torqued.
If giants do…I will be too
Makes me wonder if the Seahawks wanted Bitonio and traded down again because their guy is not there … I hope we get a WR and OL with these next 2 picks
very possible, though they must not have valued him that high or they would have taken him at 32
So Seahawks value more average players instead of fewer highly talented players.
I disagree with the approach, it will lead to an average team. You can’t coach up everybody to be all pro’s. They are going to screw around and lose some good players
Don, pretty sure they know what they are doing. They have a team of great players who were not drafted high.
It sure worked out so far…Super Bowl win and all
Well, if you accept this logic, why not trade all of the hawks picks for all 32 7th rd picks. Yes, that will work really well!
Um. ok. sure. smh
This type of conversation occurred when Pete and John first arrived. I would think there would be more trust in them by now.
I think what Don is saying is that they are probably getting too cute and missing out on what they wanted and continuing to trade down because of that. That all these trades are not some part of a master plan but a result of things not falling their way.
Perhaps. It sounds more like complaining because players he likes aren’t picked. Always kills me people on the internet think they know more than professional scouts for nfl teams.
Yeah, just a bunch of pedestrians.
High round players that made a large impact in our Superbowl win:
– Earl Thomas
– Russel Okung
Percy Harvin was injured too much of the season. Bruce Irvin could be argued.
The remainder of the roster was taken in these later rounds, and hardly resulted in an average team.
Well the math says different
Why would you say that?
Yes, they can, they did and they will do.
They don’t pick average players, they smartly pick highly talented players that others fail to spot and value.
I’m ok with that one. They hit home runs in the first. This was a ground out to third.
Seems as if we gained some solid value by trading back and still lots of quality guys still left there.
What did we have planned this whole time? I want to know who they had up their sleeve…
Do we trade back yet again? Lol
WR Colorado St. ?
No, Colorado.
Paul Richardson? What round did you have him going Rob?
Paul Richardson…in PC/JS I trust!!!
Remeber JS said one thing they were trying to do better this year that they have not done as well in previous years is get to know the character of the player. Maybe Richardson is much more of a Seahawks character type than Latimer or Bryant. We know his measurables. We should get to know more about his character it seems.
Cue the fail music from the Price Is Right… Can’t say this pick gets me very excited…
I have no idea how to react to that pick. lol
so seahawks
Should have traded back yet again to take Richardson.
Probably had no offers.
Do you think they could have kept trading down for him?
Yes, had him graded as a 3rd RD pick
You never know
Love it. I’ve been banging the drum on Richardson for awhile. The numbers he put up while being essentially the entire Colorado offense were off the charts.
not sure on this one, but JS/PC knows best. if he is fast, him and harbin can streach the field
What kind of competitor is he?
Wooow…..
For our 32 pick we got Richardson a 4th, a 7th and a move up from 5th to 4th. Can’t get any better then that….
Everybody repeat after me – Thank you JS, we are not worthy….
I guess they didn’t see Latimer and the others the same way we did.
If Richardson turns into TY Hilton I think we did good.
Twitter was convinced we took Tiny Richardson!!
Underwhelming
I like it…would have preferred Latimer, but I like it…
As a player, Paul Richardson is Desean Jackson 2.0, which at 45 is a steal.
He didn’t return kicks in college, but I suspect he fills that role right off the bat.
How fast is he going to be when he has to add 25 pounds?
Anyone listening to Rob should pay attention- drops passes. Remember Koren Robinson. All the physical tools you could want but couldn’t catch a pass to save his life. I just am still scratching my head. So the 180 lb WR is going to be run blocking and breaking tackles like Tate? Oh well. Number 64 is coming up…
Richardson had a lower dropped pass % than M. Bryant, M. Lee, D. Moncrief, and K. Benjamin. He certainly had too many drops, but there were worse numbers among players that a lot of people liked.
At 4.33 40 you don’t break tackles, you runnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
This is totally underwhelming. The main thing a wide receiver has to do is catch passes. We gave up Latimer for this? PC has only found one wide receiver in the high rounds.
Hmmm…. Baptiste or Moncrief I would’ve been more excited about.
Underwhelming. I don’t know, when I compared most of the top WR’s, Latimer, Matthews, Bryant were better than Richardson.
Seems they value speed over durability and winning the contested shots. They have Kearse and Baldwin for it….
Doesn’t return punts really, either. ooph. Really hoping he pans out!
How is this guy gonna get off press coverage?
The same way Desean Jackson did on his way to 1300+ yards last season. Quickness, speed, and body control.
ARE YOU SERIOUS? Somebody talk me off the ledge…
With all the trading down, this, this, this, F***!
Short, skinny, small hands, lots of drops, but he has something, WHAT IS IT?
Cody Latimer, we will watch your career and remember this day……………….
No reason to be upset over a pick. This happens every year.
Get a grip man 🙂
I’m sure our guys know what they are doing.
Reeks of Deon Butler. Hope I’m wrong.
JS/ PC has a history of missing on WR picks.
Latimer – would’ve loved that pick better too….Coleman was on the board….Ughhh
Coleman? Really? Don’t worry he’ll still be there tomorrow.
I am hopeful. I did want Latimer
Football Outsiders’ Playmaker Rating (regression-based predictive model) has Paul Richardson tied for 5th (with Robinson) behind only Cooks, Beckham, Lee, Adams (and ahead of Watkins, Evans, etc.).
More info here: http://www.footballoutsiders.com/nfl-draft/2014/playmaker-score-2014
Yes. Richardson is a good player. I don’t understand the negative reaction.
I don’t either. Especially with our team and f.o.
I suppose for many bummed because people fall in love with players in the first few rounds.
I didn’t know much of Richardson, but his routes look really clean. Better than any route Tate ran. With him and Harvin spreading the field I think it opens things up real good.
Have you no faith? This is an EXPLOSIVE athlete. 4.33 40 at the combine. Hands are fine. Great route runner.
Then he’s a major injury concern around his current weight, yes?
Just not sure if we need another injury prone receiver…he’s already had a history with ACL issues
Something is clearly wrong with Cody Latimer. A specimen of his should be gone by now.
Not gonna lie, hate this pick.Paul Richardson is pretty much a undersized receiver with bad hands, who can’t make plays in traffic and will occasionally make a big play. How you take him over a guy like Martavis Bryant or Latimer doesn’t make a lot of sense to me. Actually there is probably at least 10 more receivers I would’ve taken over Richardson, I hope I’m wrong.
Martavis Bryant is a track athlete who occasionally plays football.
At least you could claim Latimer actually has shown some football skills and production, Bryant has shown none.
I get having some concerns about Bryant’s character or passion but to say he hasn’t shown anything on a football field, I just can’t agree with that. We’re talking about a guy who is 6’4 can get behind defenses and can high point the football and go over db’s.
Also I wanna correct myself I shouldn’t say Paul Richardson has bad hands. But he has inconsistent hands and some really bad drops without the talent of say a Kelvin Benjamin.
Let’s not forget, John Schneider commented last night they were excited how round 3 and 4 were shaping up. That’s where they have made their money.
So many other players available at #45…WR Jeff Janis late 5th Round could end up being better…at the very least, Richardson needs to be able to return punts…but doesn’t…WOW…JUST WOW…
He is a Hawk now, welcome to Seattle, home of the World Champion’s!
Just wondering how often you saw Paul Richardson play?
PC/JS with that pick really are pushing the envelop of trust here. I got to give them the benefit of the doubt but I think they could have traded farther down for better picks if they really want Richardson. I’m defiantly one of those guys against really small receivers.
I think they tried, the pick came at the end of the 7 minutes count down
Just watched Paul Richardson do a brilliant one handed catch against Oregon, excited, although I am a little worried about the drops.
Has elements of Desean….but I think we got another TY Hilton….except a little bigger.
If he can do to others what TY did to the Hawks last year….I’d say we got the right guy.
Count me in hating this pick. This is not Desean Jackson, this guy runs 4.4 not 4.3 and he is very slight. I liked trading down, just not the pick. Boo!
He’s been measured at 4.33…Jackson ran 4.35 at the combine.
Richardson did not run 4.3 at the combine. Jackson did. I think you d also find d Jackson ran faster at his pro day than the combine as well. I’m not a fan of Jackson, and Richardson is no djax.
What are the chances Hyde comes off the board soon?
Tavin Austin comes to mind and what has he done for St.Louis
Tavon Austin plays with Sam Bradford and a Schottenheimer descendant offensive coordinator… cmon now.
Like most of the other posters on here, I’m speechless. On paper, sure seems like we could’ve done better. I’m not sure what the fascination they have with the smaller receivers. Obviously can’t judge this one for awhile. In JS we trust.
Richardson averaged 16.2 yards per catch as a senior! I’ll have some of that.
Does Richardson return punts?
Seems like most people hate the Paul richardson pick largely because Rob hasn’t talked about him like he has Moncrief, Latimer, etc.
Also his tape.
Spot on. I’ll bet half the guys slagging the pick off have never even seen him play.
We should know by now not to be shocked by anything JC/PC do in the draft. But they still confound you with picks like this. I’m sure Richardson is going to bring a new element to our passing attack, not the big guy that was much touted, but a legitimate vertical threat that will open up the underneath for Harvin and Baldwin.
Yeah weren’t we all surprised when they drafted Carpenter at RT and Irvin at DE? How have those panned out? And notice I said Irvin at DE. We just got lucky that he made a decent transition to OLB. This reeks of those picks. And also does he have to sit a year like Michaels? Do we expect him to beat out Baldwin, Kearse, and Harvin for playing time?
I’m gonna quit reading these comments now. I wanna drink the cool aid!
Wise choice
Think they got too cute–rolled the dice once too often. Real crapshoot of a pick but perhaps the extra picks pay off…
We keep talking about giving Russ a bailout on scrambles with a big WR. I guess there’s another way…give him someone who can simply run away from coverage on broken plays. last year it seemed like guys often couldn’t get open when a play broke down. might be a good pick
What do you think of the possibility of drafting another wide receiver at some point if the value is there?
Man. The cardinals are killing it. Niklas…. Hate them getting this guy
Doug Baldwin called the pick on Softy today. Said he would be great fit because of attitude and work ethic. Podcast isn’t up yet.
Really!?
Yep!
https://twitter.com/DavisHsuSeattle/status/464922716437364736
We will be seeing Latimer and Bryant when SF picks one of them
They are set at WR after getting Stevie Johnson….for a steal
Based on the Field Gulls Scoring Chart, Richardson scored a 6.49, was listed as a 3rd rounder and there were FIVE other receivers still on the board who surpassed him.
Cody Latimer, Donte Moncrief, Allen Robinson, Bruce Ellington, Martavis Bryant.
I would have loved it if they picked Jarvis Landry instead since the Hawks are in the mindset of drafting WR rated to go in Round 3, not to mention Brandon Coleman….
Don’t understand the pick. Why didn’t they go TE, Jace Amaro or a bigger receiver? Don’t know how this guys body will last.
HaHa….OMG, Pete and John do it to us again. Speed, speed and more speed….all in for speed. Richardson ran an electronic 4.28 in January. Lines up as an X SE, not a slot. Certainly not the prototype X. This was clearly their choice, not a fall back guy. Could have had Lee, Latimer, Bryant, Matthews, Robinson, Moncrief, etc….but obviously targeted this guy, knowing they could trade back and still have him. I guess Pete also plans to re-write the X position as well as what he had done to DBs….Richardson is faster even than Percy. We continue to be amazed. Funny thing is….Doug Baldwin called this. He was interviewed this afternoon on KJR and they asked him who he would take and he said Paul Richardson, fastest and most dangerous WR in the draft. Asked if it should be a taller guy, he said no…..speed.
You can see that he plays with that “pissed off for greatness” edge. Latimer, Robinson, Adams, Landry still there. Strengths/weaknesses, this guy is literally the OPPOSITE of Cody Latimer.
Can’t say I’m excited about this pick, but with them trading down twice you knew they had a specific guy in mind and I thought it was gonna be LDT or something. Still enough receivers on board to double dip and let them battle it out in camp.
I guess the X receiver is what this team was missing. OW you move around and get the ball to in space with Percy, Baldwin/Kearse as the possession guys, Richardson blowing the top off? TY Hilton is a good comparison. Mike Wallace also comes to mind.
P-Rich is going to be the next DeSean Jackson. Tilt the field speed. Yeah, I’m drinking the kool-aide.
Maybe Seattle thinks they are set okay in the big and tall dept. with S. Rice and Chris Matthews.
Is Paul a punt returner?
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Yes, dead.
Did you hear about RG3 being traded to the Rams?
Well damn, Latimer to the Broncos…
At least SF didn’t get him. And they traded out of the spot where he went, even.
That sucks.
I have been wanting to ask a Seahawks analasist, What is your opinion about Terrelle Pryor being picked up? As an Ohio State fan, I just want to make sure he is in the right place.
The negativity on here is disheartening. Look at the guy’s hip when he runs routes. He has Ricardo Lockette speed with actual route running skills. His size and hands may be an issue, but don’t cast this guy off before he has a chance.
For the record, I was defending one Russell Wilson from those naysayers the day of his draft pick up in 2012. I might have gotten lucky, but I might have seen something beyond size. Although, I’m truly no Rob Staton, so I defer to his expertise…
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I wonder if PCJS realize that they’ve got the league going for big and tall secondary so now they go the opposite direction with their receivers. Speed kills.
PR may have speed but it doesn’t do any good if he drops half of his passes.
8-7/8″ hands! Very small for a WR
His “Highlight film shows him catching most of the catches in his body, not his hands. What good is he in the red zone when the field is crowded and he can’t fight for the ball?
Don’t know much about this guy. But the speed is interesting. But if he could be like a T.Y Hilton, that is exciting.
I think i was more surprised that Carrol passed on Lee. He was so dynamic a few years back.
Maybe we need to reflect on what Carrol really likes at WR. Everyone seems to think that he wants the big 6’5 Mike Williams clone. However, they really have only brought in the Jackson type player.
Have y’all seen this yet?
http://www.bucsnation.com/2014/5/7/5689162/2014-nfl-draft-scouting-report-for-colorado-wr-paul-richardson
thanks for posting this.
“Paul Richardson separates and gets open unlike any other receiver I’ve seen in this draft. His speed isn’t just an idea or a concept as is the case with Jordan Matthews. Every single ounce of speed Richardson has translates onto the football field.”
Would love to see if Rob agrees after further reveiw
Maybe in two years PC envisions the most explosive team in NFL history, with Richardson deep, Harvin taking sweeps, screens, and middle of the field, Luke Willson at TE, Christine Michael at RB, and Baldwin setting up to gobble up first downs if everyone is covered.
That is, if we can keep RW healthy.
Who are your top guys that are left at this point?
2 complete speedsters on the field at the same time, with a beast in the backfield and Mr Clutch at both QB and Slot receiver. I am warming to the idea more and more.
I had become enamoured by Latimer and i’m really glad he went to the AFC. As long as Richardson is healthy though (my BIGGEST worry is the ACL problem he had, but you have to assume he’s checked out more than fine) then I think we will love this selection.
Also – team captain, that’s another guy who will be all in, competitive and driven. Feel he could be the competition with Percy to push him to even greater heights.
Richardson may not help Red Zone, but as I mentioned earlier, it seemed like Tate/Baldwin really struggled to break free when Russ scrambled last year. Being able to run away from coverage is a valuable skill…
Yes, Grigson getting Exec. of the Year was a joke. Similar to Luke Kuechly getting DPOY. Good player, but several better candidates got snubbed. PFWA seems to be blinded by popularity when making decisions.
Paul Richardson-Analysis from NFL.com
DRAFT PROJECTION Rounds 3-4 (WHOOPS)
STRENGTHS Jab steps and accelerates into routes. Fluid and field fast. Chews up ground with long strides. Stretches the field vertically and can run under deep throws. Can drive off corners, break off and work back to the quarterback. Can extend to pluck off his frame. Shows he’s capable of making the spectacular grab. Productive despite a poor supporting cast. Has a 38-inch vertical jump.
WEAKNESSES Is very lean. Needs to bulk up and get stronger. Has been injured and durability could be an issue. Vulnerable to the jam. Does not separate consistently — needs to become a more refined, deceptive route runner. Average burst out of breaks. Lets some throws into his body and drops throws he shouldn’t. Gets out-muscled at the catch point for 50-50 balls. Limited run strength. Underpowered blocker.
BOTTOM LINE Very lean, narrow-framed, finesse “X” receiver who made an immediate impact at Colorado before knee injuries derailed his progress. Measurables will go a long way in determining his ultimate draft value, and his success at the next level is dependent upon his ability to make plays in the vertical passing game. Has a boom-or-bust element. Size and durability are question marks.
-Nolan Nawrocki
I would love to eat crow, please make me eat crow, I want to say I was wrong and I am so sorry….
I am not convinced.
I would take Latimer and Matthews over him. There are skinny track guys who are fast and have small hands and drops a lot of catches (Richardson), and there are football players who are fast enough and can make the tough catches in traffic.
Hawks already have Harvin and Lockett, they should have got Latimer or Matthews who can play every down and make the tough catches and BLOCK downfield.
Wrong pick
So negative.
I think John and Pete know better, and what they want for their program.
With Harvin and now Richardson, could Pete be building a passing game more akin to Chip Kelly then Carroll’s USC? What Imean by that is receivers with too much speed to ignore but make thier money on quick routes and YAC then use an explosive running back to take advantage of the space.
In other words, is Carroll going soft and creating a finesse team?
Hmmm… that’s the second time the Niners traded down to allow a trade partner to jump up to pick a WR (Latimer and Robinson) before Seahawks’ spot.
So does Richardson mean that Chris Matthews is more than just a warm training camp body? Is he our red zone and red line winner?
That’s what I’m thinking, and hoping!!
We got a home run hitter. Another one. We have so many…
OK, I’m calling Brent Urban at 64. Probably a reach, but he’ll be gone by the 4th.
Off the charts physical characteristics. Seems like a seahawky pick
Urban is still working on American Idol. He is too skinny.
Condotta suggests hawks picks a OL, cable on the phone.
Moses?
I’ll call Tiny Richardson at 64
I think Billy Turner could be a sleeper here.
Whoa! Justin Britt?!?!? Who knew.
This is 100% Cabes.
lol
Oh Seahawks.
Why do we even try to predict what you’ll do.
I know nothing about Justin Britt but in JSPC we trust!
Who is this guy? Anybody w/a scouting report?
Okay. Haven’t heard much about him, but maybe that’s a good thing.
I’m watching some Justin Britt tape vs Georgia. It’s not encouraging.
I just watched it… Not good so far, obviously Cable sees something very positive in him to take him over Moses
Hahaha just watched that as well. Abysmal. Nice kick-step, but gets absolutely abused by the bull-rush. Looks undraftable based on that. Looks pretty good getting to the second level and blocking in space. I don’t get it.
Sando says he was projected for late round, maybe in the 5th
Justin Britt is damn tough. Good candidate for the right side. He swallows people. Long, strong, built well. I like his bubble.
Thanks a lot Rob, until tomorrow!
Can’t think of a better place as to spend the draft as a Seahawks fan. Thanks so much for doing this Rob. I anxiously await your sage analysis in the days to come. GO HAWKS!!
Our next picks are what #s?
pick 8 and 11 and 32nd in the 4th round.
Thanks for the coverage Rob!
More entertaining than listening to the national coverage.
We hear ya!!
love the Prich pick, he played around 158-161 and now says hes up to 183, lets hope that translates well for him.
the lineman Britt, apparently had a good game against Clowney this year so that’s encouraging.
excited for tomorrow, 3 picks in the 4th! go hawks!
The more i think about the Richardson pick the more i like it. Pete Carroll and John Schneider seems to me want to be able to scare people on the outside by stretching the field vertically and horizontally. Richardson himself said the fastest 40 he has ran is 4.28. Now the Britt pick? 100% Cable’s i am assuming so that is his baby to groom and get ready.
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Britt was under the radar after an average Combine but he had an awesome pro day and set several personal records. He was 1st team All-SEC and started 14 games at LT. Seattle loves SEC players.
Just watched game tape on Justin Britt. Looks like a 5th/6th rounder.
Terrible pick.
People said the same about Richard Sherman. Don’t be so quick to to judge
In what way? Please explain?
He doesn’t get burned. He’s almost never out of position.
He doesn’t seem powerful to me, but he seems very technically sound. I don’t know how someone can look at his tape and say he sucks. He rarely “loses”. He just doesn’t dominate.
I love it when people jump to calling picks terrible. Have people learned nothing?
Bleacher report dialog, recall RW was a terrible pick.
I will trust professional scouts over someone on the net.
I hate to say it but I’m a little disappointed in our first 2 picks. My biggest reason is not the picks themselves but where they were picked. They could have got Richardson at 64 and Britt in the 4th with 108. If this was there plan to begin with they could have traded 40 and got so many more picks later . I’m thinking that the draft really didn’t go the way they were thinking Easley gone at 29 trade back. Joel Bitinio gone 35 Trade back to 45. Kouanjio goes at 44. I really think they reach this year and I’m hoping I’m wrong. I mean moncrief has fallen due to drops but he has hands that are an inch bigger than Richardson and has the size of Chris Harper a 4th round draft pick last year. Lockette was and still is a speedster. Am I just missing something because I haven’t had a drink tonight.
if you want some reassurance on the pick, listen to tom cables interview. i guess Britt was going to be picked a few spots behind the hawks.
Mad….we have spent the past six months devouring conventional wisdom on draft picks, guys being analyzed by the consensus standards in the NFL. But Pete and John are totally outside the box. At this point, none of us have learned to get into their heads. But they are proven right and we are proven wrong. We simply can’t analyze a prospect and see what they see.
All the guys you mention, and all the others mentioned here for the past months….Latimer, Bitonio, Moses, Bryant, Kouandjio, and on and on….all of them could have been had at 32, most again at 40 and many again at 45. The fact is, the Seahawks chose these guys over those other guys for a reason….it is just that none of us can see their reasons, not us and not anyone in the NFL at this point. Sit back and enjoy the ride.
Reminds me a lot of R. Wilson.
The only real knock against this guy is his size.
I watched this guy before the draft and thought he was fantastic. He was small (although okay heightwise), so I assumed the Latimers and Bryants, etc, were better because everyone had them mocked higher. No one really talked about this guy at all so I assumed I was crazy. Dismissed him myself and threw him down my WR depth chart even though I liked him more than folks I put above him.
I love this pick.
With a truth serum, best pure WR talent next to Watkins, Cooks and Evans (in a different way). Worried about his slight frame.
Let’s see what you got Paul.
I love the “we could have gotten these guys later in the draft” comments as if you all know the other 31 teams draft boards. LOL Let’s get to training camp and then we can start to assess whether or not these were good picks.
Exactly. None of these comments are based in reality. The nfl teams, scouts, would have a better idea if a player may be picked soon. They are professional scouts, and know what fits their scheme. Plus you cannot know what a player will develop into until a year or more depending on position. Calling a pick terrible before the field is taken is just goofy.