Welcome to the live blog for this year. I’ll be posting my reaction to every pick on here, including longer-form analysis of the Seahawks pick (or picks?).
Don’t forget — I’ll be doing an instant reaction live stream immediately after the first round concludes.
NO tipping picks in the comments section
#1 Jacksonville — Travon Walker (DE, Georgia)
It’s indicative of this draft class that a player who many thought ‘might’ be a first rounder four months ago has been selected first overall. He’s long, powerful, physical and explosive. He’s a great athlete but is he twitchy enough to bend and straighten to really threaten in the speed rush? That would be my question.
#2 Detroit — Aidan Hutchinson (DE, Michigan)
A superb fit. Hutchinson not only fills a huge need for the Lions but his character and attitude perfectly fits the culture they’re trying to create in Detroit. He’s never going to be Myles Garrett. He is going to be really good though — extremely solid and productive. Great pick.
#3 Houston — Derek Stingley Jr (CB, LSU)
This shouldn’t be a surprise. He is a remarkable player and probably the most talented in the entire draft. He would’ve been #1 on my board. When I spoke to my league source (who had scouted Stingley Jr extensively) on the day of the LSU pro-day, he was gushing about him as a player and a person. He felt he was better than Patrick Surtain, taken ninth overall a year ago. The only concern was the Lis Franc injury. Forget the last two years though, that was never a big concern given Covid and what happened at LSU. In this draft, he is worth taking a chance on this early.
#4 New York Jets — Sauce Gardner (CB, Cincinnati)
The Jets go cornerback — which was always a possibility but they can’t rush the passer. I thought Stingley Jr was the better corner but Gardner is a good player with the kind of confidence you want in a top corner. He will help set a culture for the defense. But again, they need a pass rusher. That’ll be a big target for the Jets (along with receiver) with their remaining three high picks (#10, #35, #38).
#5 New York Giants — Kayvon Thibodeaux (DE, Oregon)
They clearly feel comfortable with three tackles on the board — this ensures they get one at #7 and nobody can trade up to #6 to prevent them taking Thibodeaux. I noted in the podcast earlier it was 50/50 he went in the top-five and 100% he went in the top-10. The talk of him falling was massively overrated. He’s extremely talented and just very business orientated. He needs to succeed in football to make the business stuff work so what’s the problem? Good pick for the Giants — he has great potential.
#6 Carolina — Ikem Ekwonu (G, NC State)
I think Ekwonu is a guard, not a tackle. They’ll try him at tackle of course. Eventually though I think he’ll kick inside. That would be his better fit for me. I suspect they really wanted to trade down, couldn’t and went with what they considered the best value. It’ll be interesting to see if the Giants go for Evan Neal or Charles Cross next.
#7 New York Giants — Evan Neal (T, Alabama)
The top offensive lineman for me, the Giants played an absolute blinder here. Getting Thibodeaux and Neal is a home-run for them, setting the foundation for success in the trenches. The man who drafted Brandon Scherff, Scot McCloughan, told me Neal reminded him of his former #5 overall pick in Washington. He could play left guard and be dominant. He can play either tackle spot. Great pick.
#8 Atlanta — Drake London (WR, USC)
There was always a chance Atlanta took a receiver here. I found it really hard to judge London given his lack of testing numbers. He’s big and made plays on tape but again, how big is the upside without the testing? The Falcons clearly believe he can be something special but I’m curious to see if he’s more Mike Williams than Mike Evans.
#9 Seattle — Charles Cross (T, Mississippi State)
I’m really surprised and will admit, I got this totally wrong. I never expected the Seahawks would take a left tackle who played in the air-raid offense, who isn’t explosive and doesn’t have the kind of size the LA Rams’ tackles had. A lot of people like him but I was never a big fan. But, as we’ve also been saying, they were going to take a tackle with one of their early picks because they had two glaring holes. I wish Evan Neal had lasted here, instead of Cross.
#10 New York Jets — Garrett Wilson (WR, Ohio State)
The Jets were always expected to take a receiver with one of their high picks but I’m a little surprised they did it here instead of taking Jermaine Johnson. Wilson is talented, quick but I found it strange how he often contorted his body to make catches harder than they perhaps needed to be.
#11 New Orleans (v/WAS) — Chris Olave (WR, Ohio State)
The Saints gave up third and fourth round picks to move up. I bet Seattle would’ve liked an offer like that. They move up to get a needed quick receiver. The rush on receivers is happening.
#12 Detroit (v/MIN) — Jameson Williams (WR, Alabama)
I can’t believe the Lions traded up twenty spots and only had to give up a third (there was also a swap of seconds). That’s incredible. They needed a receiver badly and arguably get the best one here. Given how they little they gave up, kudos to them.
#13 Philadelphia (v/HOU) — Jordan Davis (DT, Georgia)
Whichever team drafted Jordan Davis was always going to be excited. This is a great selection for the Eagles and the teams they will face in their division. He has a shot to be great at what he does for a long time. He’s just never likely to be a pass rusher.
#14 Baltimore — Kyle Hamilton (S, Notre Dame)
The Ravens always have a knack of finding value. I’m not the biggest fan of Hamilton and they’ll probably be disappointed to miss out on Jordan Davis. But a lot of people had Hamilton down as the best player in the draft. Given it’s a need, it’s not a bad fit at all. Bizarrely, the Ravens have also traded up to #23 with Arizona.
The Cardinals trade for Marquise Brown
Wow — Arizona dealt #23 to the Ravens for the rights to Brown (who played with Kyler Murray at Oklahoma). The Cardinals also get a third round pick in return. Big move by the Ravens. I think they win this trade personally.
#15 Houston — Kenyon Green (G, Texas A&M)
I’ve never really ‘got it’ with Green. His testing results were truly awful. He will be an outlier if he succeeds. And outliers happen — but they aren’t that common. He’s just a big lump of a guard really. I can’t believe he’s gone this early before Zion Johnson.
#16 Washington — Jahan Dotson (WR, Penn State)
Ok, now the draft has gone nuts. The Brown trade, the Green pick and now this. I think Dotson is decent at everything and not brilliant at anything. Taking him at #15 overall is pretty remarkable for me. They passed on Olave and Williams to make this move after trading down.
#17 LA Chargers — Zion Johnson (G, Boston College)
Great pick by the Chargers. This is how you do it. Incredibly explosive, perfectly proportioned. Could be tried at tackle or guard. A very, very good player who will likely play for a long time. Terrific run blocker.
The Eagles trade for AJ Brown
Wow, wow, wow. The Titans have dealt A.J. to the Eagles for a first and third round pick. No wonder the Eagles didn’t want to trade up for a receiver. The deal gives Tennessee #18 and a third rounder. Is now a bad time to remind everyone that Seattle paid twice as much for Jamal Adams? The Eagles are giving him $25m a year. So are you ready to give Metcalf $25m a year?
#18 Tennessee (v/PHI) — Treylon Burks (WR, Arkansas)
The Titans immediately replace Brown with Burks. So they’ve basically opted not to pay Brown $100m over four years. Now they’ll pay a rookie about $14m over four years. The receiver market in free agency is shaking the foundations of the NFL. It really makes you wonder what Seattle is going to do with Metcalf. Burks’ testing results were poor but on tape he did look a lot like Brown.
#19 New Orleans — Trevor Penning (T, Northern Iowa)
He was connected to the Saints a fair old bit. Can he play left tackle long term? The Saints think so, unless they’re going to move Ryan Ramczyk across. He’s big, very athletic and very explosive but has to work through technical flaws and learn to play with greater control.
#20 Pittsburgh — Kenny Pickett (QB, Pittsburgh)
The Steelers make their choice and it’s Pickett. He gets to stay at home, playing in the same stadium he’s played in for the Panthers. He’s a better athlete than people give him credit for, his personality matches the team and he does a lot of things well. He just doesn’t really wow you.
#21 Kansas City (v/NE) — Trent McDuffie (CB, Washington)
The Chiefs move up from #29 in a deal with the Patriots. There was talk of the Chiefs liking Kyler Gordon. I suspect this is a case of them sensing an opportunity to draft a player they perhaps thought wouldn’t be available, so they’ve moved up. McDuffie reminds me of Byron Murphy and he might need to play in the same kind of role. Very likeable player on tape and during interviews.
#22 Green Bay — Quay Walker (LB, Georgia)
I really like Walker. He’s going to play for a long time. He’s a dude — big, quick, physical with range. You can’t go wrong drafting these Georgia defender. This is very early though. Very early. I’m surprised he’s gone here. I suspect the Packers are being caught out big time by all these receiver moves. Who are they going to throw the ball to next season?
#23 Buffalo (v/BAL, ARI) — Kaiir Elam (CB, Florida)
He’s big and athletic. I think he needs to ramp up his effort and you can get him to bite on double moves. When I watched him during the season I always kind of felt like you wanted to see more. He tested well though, suggesting some upside potential.
#24 Dallas — Tyler Smith (T, Tulsa)
He’s aggressive and he’s intelligent but I thought he looked like a tackle destined to shift inside to guard and his testing mark was underwhelming. He’s just not that good defending the edge. This was a trendy mock pick. I had him graded in round three.
#25 Baltimore (v/BUF) — Tyler Linderbaum (C, Iowa)
Some teams just get it when it comes to the draft. Baltimore are one of those teams. For me, this is a great pick. They just drafted someone who will fit here for the next 8-10 years. The Ravens part ways with an underachieving receiver and come away with two holes filled with Kyle Hamilton and Linderbaum. Bravo, Baltimore. You’ve done it again.
#26 New York Jets (v/TEN) — Jermaine Johnson (DE, Florida State)
The Jets come away with Sauce Gardner, Garrett Wilson and Jermaine Johnson. What a day for them. What a tremendous day. Incredible. This is how you build. Joe Douglas is building something and played a blinder in the Jamal Adams and Sam Darnold trades.
#27 Jacksonville (v/TB) — Devin Lloyd (LB, Utah)
He was a really difficult evaluation. When I was writing my mock I couldn’t place him. I couldn’t decide whether he was late teens or late 20’s. He’s not an amazing athlete, he has unorthodox technique but he’s amazingly productive.
#28 Green Bay — Devonte Wyatt (DT, Georgia)
This is an amazing pick by the Packers. He is outstanding. They’ve drafted two Georgia players. I mocked Wyatt to Green Bay because he’s an ideal fit for what they look for and I was told by my source a really good team late in the first ‘loved him’. I didn’t get a name but I figured it was Green Bay. I’ll say it again. Draft Georgia defenders. They are really good.
#29 New England — Cole Strange (C, Chattanooga)
Explosive offensive lineman. They tend to get bumped up. Strange did exactly that. I thought they’d take Zion Johnson for the same reason but LA took him at #17. They move down and take a player who tested in a very similar way. I really liked this guy — quality player with a lot of upside.
#30 Kansas City — George Karlaftis (DE, Purdue)
My source said some people view Karlaftis as basically a poor man’s Aidan Hutchinson. I think his run defending is far, far worse than Hutchinson’s and he’s not as twitchy off the edge. He’s really quick though. Tremendously and surprisingly quick. And he causes opponents problems with his deceptive burst.
#31 Cincinnati — Daxton Hill (S, Michigan)
This is a bit of a surprise. He was expected to go in round one and he’s extremely competitive with great agility testing. I’m not sure a versatile defensive back was necessarily the expectation here — not with good interior D-liners still available.
#32 Minnesota — Lewis Cine (S, Georgia)
I can still barely believe the Vikings traded down 20 spots — with a division rival — only to get back a third rounder and a swap of second rounders. That’s incredible. I really like Cine. He’s a heady, intelligent player who hits like a hammer. And one more time — you can’t go wrong when you draft these Georgia defenders.
Cheers š»!
SlĆ”inte! š„ (Dalwhinnie 15)
Oooo. That sounds real nice., Sea Mode.
Meanwhile I’m about to order the best chicken chili relleno from my favorite north Seattle Mexican restaurant – Luna Azul.
Oh, man. I could sure go for some of that! Enjoy!
Laphroiag 10 to start. Cannonball finish š
Lagavulin 16 for me. Love me some Islay malt….
Well done sir. I went to Ten High after they passed on JJ. Seemed appropriate for the moment.
Obviously thereās something poisonous with JJ.
Lots of talent leftā¦
Thanks Rob for everything you do! Day has arrived!
There was talk of some undefined problematic behavior with Corral that is likely to cause him to drop. This was from some Fox radio show, but they said information would likely come out after the draft.
If it’s this, it sounds like the typical horse pucky from teams that are trying to depress his stock
https://www.nfldraftdiamonds.com/2021/10/matt-corral-7/
Cheers!
All I will say is if we come away with a DE or Stingley at 9, Lindebaum and Kenneth Walker in R2 I will be happy. I would also like Michael Clemons.
But if no one available at 9 then I can see possibly 2 trade downs so we end up with a first round pick in mid-twenties while picking up a couple of extra early day 2 picks.
Maaaaybe Stingley: the old CB “rules” being broken. (32″ arms, not drafting early)
Based on the first two clues I thought straight away they’re trading a pick next year to move up and get Stingley
Something like Denverās 2nd round?
I really hope we use 0 capital from next year & don’t trade up at all.
My best guess, would love to be wrong here, is using 2023 draft stock to trade up today
Did the new transfer rules allow Jermaine Johnson to transfer and play immediately at FSU?
I’m guessing they’re sticking and drafting Kyle Hamilton or trading down to get Lewis Cine.
3 = Russell Wilson
Rules = Matt Rhule
New Rules = We’re going to swap picks with the Panthers to secure the next Rusell Wilson.š
“Don’t pick up the phone” was in there. Could mean they’re not trading out (unable to or don’t want to).
I also noticed the hotel in Miami beach. Another Florida reference for Johnson…?
Rob been following for 10+ years. You are the best by far in Seahawk land!!
I am as intrigued for this draft as any because of the “RESET”
LFG!
I don’t have cable. Does any one have a link to a live stream that I don’t have to sign up for?
Try searching NFL draft 2022 on YouTube. It appears there may be a few live channels mirroring ESPN on YouTube… Or so I was told š
https://youtu.be/ljV9k7LpyqQ
The draft š
Thanks mate
Cheers everyone. Thanks to Rob for all the work as always.
Feels like Christmas Day but you’re like 60% you were a naughty kid so the possibility of coal is very real.
I’m preparing to be let down
THIS! i’m preparing myself as well.
every year man haha. Let’s hope not!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BKy5YghWhw
If Thibodeaux was on the board at #6 would the Seahawks attempt a trade up with Carolina to get him?
If it only cost a 4th then I’d seriously consider it.
Please God let this be true…
@JoshNorris
Kenny Pickett to the Texans has MAJOR juice on DK right now
+2000 at 3:48
+800 at 6:30
Does every fan base prepare to be let down and hate the pick? Or just us?
As meh as our picks have been recently, I am glad I was not a Green Bay fan that had to go through Jordan Love in the first.
I’ve spent five minutes, which is five minutes too long, thinking about the draft clues.
I think all it means is QB next year and new defensive scheme — thus the first pick will be defense.
At least that’s what I’m clinging too…
Cling on Rob
I want this to be true!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Works for me
I agree ..
Whatās this DK to Houston talk ??!
Whereās that from?
Burner says:
April 28, 2022 at 4:59 pm
Please God let this be trueā¦
@JoshNorris
Kenny Pickett to the Texans has MAJOR juice on DK right now
+2000 at 3:48
+800 at 6:30
@JoshNorris
Kenny Pickett to the Texans has MAJOR juice on DK right now
+2000 at 3:48
+800 at 6:30
Sorry I might have misread
DK means Draft Kings lol
Apologies guysā¦
Here we go, buckle up!
Just finished cooking and eating my version of chicken fettuccine and settling in now.
Nice. It’s 1am here in UK so pizza is ordered and on it’s way š
Nice
Big Mike let’s hope we get top center.
Put the damn Jags on clock already š lol
Now I need to see Darren Waller traded.
No tipping picks in the comments section please.
I can’t moderate and write. Please don’t ruin this for everyone else.
Great call
Sounds good to me
ESPN or NFL network?
NFLN for me. I try my best to avoid ESPN cuz I hate them. But……….during commercials I’ll switch over.
Also being broadcast on ABC, chan. 4 in Seattle.
NFL Network fo sho.
If we are hoping for a chance at Thibodeaux we want Walker to go #1
Just confirming, NFL network beats ESPN for the draft coverage, correct?
oops, sorry. didn’t see the above comment.
Red 5 standing by….
(sees Jordan Davis) Look at the size of that thing!
Rumor that I’m making up is Dallas trades #24, #88 & a 2023 1st rounder to move up to #9 for Johnson. Jerry Jones ain’t getting any younger.
Between Houston, Philly, New Orleans, Pittsburgh, Dallas, Green Bay or Kansas City, someone has to move up with us…right?
If we pick at #9 it’ll be an early night for me.
Wow… Goodell just happening to see Ice Cube and invite him up seems totally organic and unscripted!
LOL
Spontaneous
Let’s be fair, we’ve all been there. Oh look, Ice Cube.
And we didn’t even have to trade DK, I gotta say it was a good day.
Well played, sir.
And here we go…
I like Charles Davis
Replace DJ with Mayock and we are back in business
Isn’t he the color guy with Ian Eagle on CBS.? Like him a lot if he is.
Looked it up, Davis is. He’s very good as a color guy.
Before we all inevitably drown our selves in sorrow and anger, just remember that the last Seawhaks first rounder to make a big, significant difference in this team’s success was probably Earl Thomas. Tonight is not the be all, end all….. but I’m nervous anyways :/
I think JAX goes Walker instead of Hutch
Boom!
I suppose with TV programming and ads to sell we will have to wait 10 minutes for every pick? Seems likely.
Been so long since they had a first round pick LOL.
Oh yeah, this is going to take forever.
If every team took the full 10 m ins it would be 5.33 hours tonight. Fugly
I’m praying I don’t waste my time because they trade out of the first round.
The upside is it’s half the time investment of years past since we’re picking in the top 1/3.
They’re playing the UK’s favourite song… Sweet Caroline
So good, So good, So good
Not much conviction in the singing like at the boxing or football over here
Very half-hearted
Would’ve been belted out over here
Then you need to get to a Penn State game, they do that song right
3rd clue
They’re going to draft a woman!
Thank God Jermaine Johnson identifies as a woman
Starts out with them on the phone. Another song that mentions the phone. Seems like a trade is brewing?
Has anyone, anywhere, ever used those clues to correctly guess a draft pick in advance?
https://twitter.com/Sea_Mode24/status/1253803784704270339
In 2011, I narrowed it down to Carpenter and Will Rackley, and I guessed Rackley :/
I’ve tried to make sense of the clues after they’ve made the picks and had no luck, of course I”m not convinced they haven’t repeatedly outsmarted themselves and missed on their guys. Hard to believe they’d be making intimations about LJ Collier.
Snoop Dog? They’re smoking a giant blunt right now!
*Singing along to Sweet Caroline* Y’all know the origin of that song? Look it up and tell me you don’t get creeped the hell out the next time you hear it.
Caroline Kennedy at about age 9 iirc. Very creepy.
Yep. That song is just plain gross
always loathed that song.
Only one of his I’ve ever liked is Solitary Man
Detroit wasting now time! WOW.
*No
Great against the run and epic athleticism which has high pass rush upside drafted number 1ā¦Clowney flash backs, I woulda gone with Hutchinson.
If I’m Aidan, I’m happy to be staying home
OK, the expected is out of the way, now it starts to get interesting
I think Houston will take Evan Neal over Icky and Stingley.
D’OH!
No surprises so far. Let’s see what the Texans have in their minds. Pls don’t take Stingley
Two EDGE off the board so there’s that. Let’s go, Seahawks!
Fair play to Aidan Hutchinson. Not many people can pull off a dark shirt with a suit like that.
There should be a poll award for Best Drip after the draft.
Final Seahawks draft! Made multiple trades but ended up with some nice options…
9. Jermaine Johnson, EDGE Florida State
29. Devonte Wyatt, DT Georgia
56. Abraham Lucas, OT Washington State
72. Zach Tom, OT Wake Forest
88. Dameon Pierce, RB Florida
118. Aaron Hansford, LB Texas A&M
141. Jack Coan, QB Notre Dame
145. Jaylen Watson, CB Washington State
153. Spencer Burford, OT UTSA
202. Devin Harper, LB Oklahoma State
229. Andre Miller, WR Maine
243. Brevin Allen, EDGE Campbell
I’d like to see that draft
Solid
And so the dream dies.
Now where did we hear Stingley was the best CB in the draft?
my exact thoughts. I’m 2/2 of picks 2 and 3 and was bullish on Walker at 1 because of Rob’s work.
Just some bloke from england
Rob,
Do you get credit for Texans taking Stingley?
He Should!
On huddle scoring do you get points for right player, right team, just wrong pick?
Yep
Anything for right city?! š
Think itās a point systemā¦ 1 for right round, 1 for right team, 1 for exactly rightā¦ something like that
Yes
As long as we donāt pick penning Iāll be happy
Or Cross
Stingley is gone so 9 picks is gaining value.
Wow, the rumors about Stingley were true. Dissapointed that he’s gone as a #2 after JJ
Wow, this is going quickly!
Was. Commercial break now. š
Hang in there, big man! We still need to meet for a beer!
Absolutely!
Let’s do it my man. Should be fun!
how do we get in touch?
Mike. tleavitt (at) comcast (dot) net
cool I’ll shoot you one soon
mike-barrett@live.com
Called it Mr. Staton.
ROb is doing well team wise! 3 for 3!
Just hope he misses two picks. Penning. And whomever we pick instead.
Stingley going makes a trade-up way more likely for an offensive lineman that will drop as a result, it’s not a bad thing at all
Just jet the Jurassic Park franchise RIP please
stop trying to dig it up and clone it constantly
This is a metaphor for the Cleveland Browns, no? lol
I was done with the franchise by 1997 but I have to say, seeing t-rexes roaming around the Vatican eating people does tickle my childish whimsy
I watch the JP movies like this:
Zoned out, zoned out, zoned out, DINOSAURS WOOO! Zoned out, zoned out, zoned out, DINOSAURS OMG YES Zzzzzzz
Looking like we’re gonna be one pick short of a stud.
Neal, Ekwonu, Sauce, Thibodeaux, Johnson are all going to go before 9.
Wow…I really shouldn’t judge the fan areas at the draft, but the Jets fans are sort of lackluster…
Well,…the jets…..
Numb to the endless losing?
Amazing! 2 CBs in the first 4!
It’s all coming together for us.
Now let’s get that QB run started. G-men aren’t picking up Jones’ option.
Sauce at 4! Yes!!! Neal or a pass rusher!
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This is shaping up great if you want an OT…so far.
Looking promising an edge rusher or top 2 tackle falls
At this point it’s KT, JJ or bust for getting an impact defensive player at #9
Neal, Ekwonu, Cross, Thibodeaux, Johnson all on the board. At least one will be available when we picks (fingers crossed it ISN’T Cross)
I really don’t want Cross
Come on Giants and Panthers… take him
Have faith, one will
Even better if both doš
Ditto. Anyone but Cross right now.
Gardner coming off the board doesn’t help re: Pass rush
Makes it more like the Giants take one of the top four pass rushers at #7
And I’m worrying a little bit now about Charles Cross. Do not want.
So hoping Carolina takes Cross
Gotta figure the Giants are good for one of those OTs…and probably KT or JJ if they keep both picks……
Gotta think Johnson or Thibodeaux are there at
9
Atlanta needs an edge
Hopefully wr is *their* need.
NYG and Atlanta could take them
Could also be a trade up
I like the way it’s shaping up for us! Let’s hope thib and Johnson keep dropping!
“With the 9th pick in the 2022 NFL draft, the Seattle Seahawks select … from Florida State, defensive end Jermaine Johnson!”
That would be nice.
Love this kid Sam!
Damn it
Agreed
D’OH!!!!
Don’t think JJ lasts. Maybe Neal?
I think Neal & Ekwonu will be the next two picks
JJ or bust now š
Crapā¦
Is there a way Neal makes it to 9? I’m not sure Johnson gets there…
Now let’s start some of those overrated OL coming off the board pls and thank you…
JJ or trade down for me I don’t care who else on the board.
This is not going our way atm
Come on Falcons…. take a WR and leave JJ for us!
That NYG pick means Johnson is likely not available. We are looking at the worst case scenario for Hawks at 9.
Letās hope for a WR / QB / Cross pick
I’m not at all interested in Neal or Icky. Sincerely hope neither is the pick at 9
Iff JJ goes while I’m typing it’s trade down for me time
I’m interested in Neal — not really fussed with Ekwonu (a guard). Really don’t want Cross.
9 is a little early on a guard, but otherwise agreed.
I’d be happy with Neal.
Disagree on Neal. Wouldn’t want a Icky at 9.
I’ll take Neal too
Two more teams need to pass on JJ
I love this kid haha
Please, please no Cross
Carolina is looking to move down. They are working the phones hard.
all defense through 5… feels like a while since that’s happened
we need an OT, but it’s never the fun/exciting pick
Looks like i picked the wrong week to quit smoking
Looks like i picked the wrong week to quit drinking <— you are here
Looks like i picked the wrong week to quit amphetamines
Looks like i picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue
My all-time favorite movie. Made me smile
Hang in there, buddy!
hahah!
Surely you can’t be serious?
I am serious and stop calling me Shirley!
Looks like Carolinas war room is waiting for phones calls.
Cardboard cutout, acceptable version:
https://twitter.com/Seahawks/status/1519833684429352960
Just a reminder…
But as I said on my podcast earlier, my source said Ekwonu in the 7-9 range, Cross in 8-12.
And he said Neal was clear OL1
I smell a trade down or Penning… hope I’m wrong
Hope it’s both if we end up with Penning. If they take Penning, I hope it’s one of multiple OL picks.
Gotta hope JJ is there or we get a hell of a deal and reap the rewards of a deep draft later.
I think CAR and NYG will take back to back OLs (Neal then Eckwonu) and ATL will take Jermaine Johnson at 8.
And what else…Santa isn’t real?
He’s not real?!?! DAMNIT!!!
If your prediction for the first two goes down, gotta hope that ATL fell in love with London, Williams or Burks.
Hopefully they made good headway on a trade down, the only players left possibly worth sticking at 9 for are Johnson and I guess possibly Neal? Not sure how he fits in Seattle.
Would Falcons go OL? Probably not right? Lots of investment in recent drafts.
They might go BPA
But I would guess Johnson or WR
EDGE or WR
OK G-men, take Cross leaving us Neal or JJ
So much this please
Please Giants
I wonder what Houstonās offer is if jj is thereā¦
This giants pic is huge for us
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Please have Neal / Johnson there at 9. Praying ATL take a WR
Williams hopefully too sexy to resist
Trade up with NYG
If they walk away with Thibs and Neal they’re doing it right.
We need the giants to take cross
This is looking like Jermaine to NYG & Neal to Atlanta
So Evan Neal will be available hopefully if NYG goes Cross. Will we take him if JJ goes to ATL or trade down. Going to be interesting.
Rob, if Johnson and Neal come off on the next two picks, you have to trade down to pick up Penning rather than just draft Cross, right?
I think we’ll be stuck at 9 and only Cross left
Never thought it would be possible, but I wouldn’t mind Neal at 9…
Giants take Cross and the Hawks are in a great spot.
Pls!!!! Cross
I have a sinking feeling Atlanta takes JJ. Makes too much sense.
Rob, prefer Cross or Penning if Johnson and Neal are gone?
Robā¦. Is a WR going before our pick at 9?
Now our only hope is WR to Atl
Shit
Rich Eisen sounds pretty dumb saying “a QB has been passed over for 7 picks so far…” in this draft
“With the 9th pick the Seattle Seahawks pick Malik Willis, QB, Liberty”.
Noooooooooo
Hell yes
Most commentators do well with general comments that rely on history.
When things do not follow typical patterns, they tend to look like fools.
Time to be nervous.
Come on, ATL, take a WR!!!!!
I think they will
Just take cross out of play please.
OK, Neal gone. ATL better take a WR here or else we are going to have a problem
Man this hurts us, the league seeing what we see on Cross. Take a WR Falcons!
Gotta think Neal to NYG now….
Short and curlies now…. WR for Atlanta or a trade down. Although it may be that the trade down market isn’t very good, given the absence of them so far…
Is Charles Cross an option still? Wouldnāt mind
I hope not
Hope Seattle goes defense regardless of what happens
I’ve never wanted Charles Cross and never expected them to take him either
I really hope it isn’t him at #9
Better Cross than Penning.
Oh my gosh, I’m soooo flipping nervous. All my distain for Penning and it could end up being Cross. Please let JJ fall and we jump all over it!
Ditto man. Please ATL have mercy
Watch ATL take a WR then Seattle passes on JJ and trades down š„“
Wouldn’t surprise me, sadly
Giants didn’t mess around, Thibodeaux and Neal is one heck of a haul to fix their trenches
No doubt… some good stuff…
Well, since no trades so far, does that mean an eager team will make a bold trade with Seattle?
About to find out what direction this franchise wants to go
Falcons pick is in… š¬
ATL….please Wr or get weird and get Willis
Here we go.. pls WR to falcons
GOTTA BE A WR FOR ATL. GOTTA BE A WR FOR ATL. GOTTA BE A WR FOR ATL. GOTTA BE A WR FOR ATL. GOTTA BE A WR FOR ATL. GOTTA BE A WR FOR ATL. GOTTA BE A WR FOR ATL. GOTTA BE A WR FOR ATL. GOTTA BE A WR FOR ATL. GOTTA BE A WR FOR ATL. GOTTA BE A WR FOR ATL. GOTTA BE A WR FOR ATL.
YEAAHHHHHH!!!!!!! Don’t f*ck this up, PCJS.
Anyone watching the Seahawks war room? Please no disgusting look again
Could they still blow it and trade back?
Most likely
Sadly quite likely
Davis, Johnson or trade down por favor.
YES!!
Don’t overthink this Pete!!
OMG OMG OMG
You know he will Mike… You know JS loves to accumulate draft stock…
OMG
I’m prepared to be disappointed with the pick anyways.
JJ still there. Let’s go!!!!
Lets gooo!!!!!!!!! Run to that podium!!!!
It was a stretch, but I managed to tie all the clues to JJ. Make it happen!!!!
Sweeeeet
Donāt screw this up hawksā¦ take Johnson
Let’s go!!!!
I swear don’t get cute!!! Don’t do it!!!!
Take Jermaine right now!
Letās gooooo!!!
Cāmon jermaine johnson
Holy crap, this could happen.
JJ
OK PETE! DON’T GET CUTE DAMMIT! JOHNSON IS THERE. TAKE HIM NOW!
You stated pass rush was a priority Pete
RUN TO THE PODIUM
Please don’t overthink this John, please
I legit just peed my pants. GET TO THE PODIUM NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes!!!
I like Drake London but I think this is a big reach
Damn, I’m nervous now. Just take JJ.
JJ still available, your move Seattle!
Don’t mess this up. Just pick JJ! Come on
I wanna see āPick is inā RIGHT NOW!!!!!
We’ll blow it & trade
Take Jermaine take Jermaine please
Jermaine Johnson was #1 on my Hawks big board. For gods sakes PC/ JS run to the podium and take that man!
Are they smarter than the room?
run to that podium and take jj
TRADE is my guess
Then pick Penning later
woo hoo………..not
The pick should already be in.
They are gonna take this down til the final minute taking calls.
Draft Jermaine Johnson
From your mouth to Peteās ear!
Run Forrest run!!!!!!!
c’mon PC/JS Jermaine Johnson please D End this dont mess it up
Put Johnsonās name on the card right now
Not good
J.J. Please
I think we are trying to trade down crap
very likely…
Still on the clock…
Gonna be a lot of whining around here. Pick is in…
Seems there is no trade options. Letās take JJ
I don’t like this
They can’t trade down. Just take the best player available.
Worried we’ll see a trade or Cross over Johnson.
Please no
Rather see a trade than Cross…
Did they just say our mast famous fan is Michael effing Buble???
Wow. The shine has really come off Chris Pratt’s star.
Another reason to not watch ESPN?
Get off the f—— clock!!
Please, Jermaine Johnson. It is not worth it to trade down
Pete looks relaxed.
Why do we get stuck with a commercial b4 every Seahawk pick?
Because they’ve got to fill whilst we try screw it up!
Why do I get the feeling Jermaine isn’t the pick?
Not Cross. Not Cross. Not Cross.
That clock is like molasses.
All of the draft blog is rooting for JJ right now.
HUGE moment!!!
Commercial break. Of course.
I really hope they don’t overthink this.
A trade down does not necessarily mean a loss, BUT, the wrong pick here is a horrible sign for the direction of the team
Remember Pete, you said pass rush was top priority
Jodi Allen sitting next to PC on the Seahawks live stream. VERY interesting
So who is actually BPA? Is it JJ or a freaking SAFETY?
Crap, commercial
The Hawks are trading down. Carroll says pass rush is a priority. He is full of crap.
When isn’t he?
a lot of movement just happened on the phones
Johnson or bust
Jermairne Johnson II
Pick is in!!! JJ JJ JJ JJ pls pls pls
The pick is in…
pick is in!
They’re applauding something in the war room
The pic is it in!
round of applause. something happened
Pick is in. No trade.
For the love of godā¦longest break ever!!
Anyone but Cross or Penning !
Crossā¦ just awful
Shit.
Can we not tip picks
God I’m nervous
Let drew cook!
PICK IS IN! NO Trade! Please get this right!!!!!
Is there a link to the Seahawks war room
Cross!?!?
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Wonderful…
They’re gonna screw this up, aren’t they?!
Yep, pass rush is a priority
unfuckingreal
OMG NO! NO! NO!
LOL
Welp
Ladies and gentlemen, I give you THE SMARTEST GUYS IN THE ROOM!!!!!
You are 100% right. I am so sick of these bozos.
F***! I’m so tired of Pete & John
Nooooooooooooooo
God dammit
Nooooo CROSS EFFING NOT MY HOPE
who knows — maybe another Okung.
A one contract player
Dude made one lousy Pro Bowl. Not what you want from a top 10 pick. This guy isn’t even that good.
Good news is about the time Cross is getting benched for his last year under contract, Pete and JS will be fired and we’ll have a new, actual, Owner. I hope…
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Fire pete carroll…
Should’ve happened after game 17
welpā¦
This blows
Gosh darn it (edited) ?!#%!
I’m at a loss. What a freaking joke. I’d prefer Penning at 9
That’s just crazy talk
Son of a
Welcome to the Pete and John show
Boooooo!
FUCK.
Another joke move of the offseason
F***! I’m so tired of Pete & John
lol Russ is fuming right now
All the excitment is gone. Bullshit Franchise
LMFAO
Everything out of Pete’s mouth is garbage.
Do not understand this pick. Nothing exceptional about this guy.
PC/JS make it very hard to be a Seahawks fan. The one player I did not want the Hawks to take today was Cross and sure enough he is a Seahawk.
Surprised by thisā¦ I think that means Brown isnāt back
I recall reading here I think it was that the Hawks were in contract negotiations with brown. When asked by the media how that was going? Pete and John didn’t seem to like that question.
I now wonder if Pete & John’s ideal draft would have been them trading down a few spots and still made this pick?
You gotta be ecstatic if you’re in the Jest war room. You know they taking Johnson
Okung made one damned Pro Bowl. Not a great pick. This dude isn’t even that good…what a waste.
I hate Pete Carroll and John Schneider.
Yeah Super Bowls and winning seasons suck. John and Pete are horribleā¦ bring back Ken Behring and Tom Flores!!!
I feel extremely disappointed and this is not gonna be the future identity
Jermaine Johnson will have more impact vs Cross
Same old shit, different year.
Please be a trade!!
NOOOOOOOOOO. i feel horrible. disgusted. going to have to tread water as a fan…..
Brutal. But I guess this is exactly what people wanted. Pretty sure Pete just makes picks out of spite
I’m thrilled. Cross has been my guy throughout the process. Seems like the anti-Tom Cable.choice.
Drafting in the top 10 is basically the only chance you get to get a true blue-chip pass rusher, so of course we pick a project tackle when Duane is sitting at home….
It is really interesting the dichotomy of the reaction here to the Cross pick vs. everywhere else.
Because the prevailing narrative is that we don’t invest in o-line, and this pick is designed to pander to the casual fans who buy into this narrative. Pete is more interested in pandering and playing the media than picking an actual impact player.
I’ll be honest I think that is an emotional overreaction take. I think Pete likes him as a football player and thinks he will work with whatever they’re trying to do. I would’ve preferred a different pick too, but I don’t think these guys are picking guys based on fan reaction and to personally spite us or anything like that.
+1
First time picking in the top 10 in forever and you take Cross??? We can only hope that he becomes a top LT in the league…otherwise this was a mistake that they won’t recover from…
Wouldn’t you hope that any player they draft becomes one of the best at their position? Not getting why instant reactions matter. We hated them when the media crapped all over the Hawks in 2012 but we love them when we as fans or bloggers post them? Give these young men a chance to play.
16 pressures, 2 sacks allowed in over 700 pass blocking snaps. NICE. I like the Charles Cross pick.
“Pass rush is the top priority”
Pete Carroll after the season
We still had a HOF QB on the roster when he said that.
i feel horrible. disgusted. going to have to tread water as a fan…..
This is the anti=seahawks pick. The guy everyone likes, that still isn’t good.
At least we got the throw away pick over with. Now our real draft starts.
Wait til we trade back into round 1 for Ridder
You’re a cruel man Mike…
Pain
Now it’s Pete and John’s Cross to bear…
Nice
Not who I wanted but at least they are attacking the trenches!
Rob, thank you for all the amazing content and hope you brought. I really, honestly appreciate it. Problem is I can longer cling to a sliver of hope with this ownership. I just cannot do it until change is made at the top. Farewell and God bless until the real rebuild begins
Wow, did not see Cross as our first pick. Any chance they trade back into the 1st?
its better than penning at least
Boooooo! I’m glad it’s not Kyle Hamilton and some weird scheme to switch him to corner I guess. I want JJ though. He reminds me to much of Kwame Harris.
When I hit refresh to check the pick, I got an error that said āBad Gatewayā. Somehow I knew it was an omen for the pick, and it turns out I was right. Bad start to the draftā¦
I felt ecstatic joy when atlanta picked drake london and Jermaine Johnson was on the board. Now I feel crushing pain. Feels like watching a seahawks game. Pain…
Trade back in round 1 for jj?
I was thinking the same thing. I really hope so
We’re overloading the server
Saints just traded up to 11 with WAS
Well much better than Penning. They must have rly changed their OL philosophy. This is the guy RW would have wanted. Maybe best blindside protector in the class but with a big ? In terms of run blocking and not exactly a tone setter.
A skillset that will particularly come in handy when we throw the ball 20 times a game max.
Exactly, Iām not angry. Just confused. Also a bit relieved cuz it could have been worse. Was stoked JJ was still there. Now just no QB
Cross for Russ. Pete continues to surprise year after year.
Is this Peteās pick or JS?
Tackle makes sense here. More Day 2 options at Edge
The only thing that could make tonight worse is if Seattle trade back into the end of the first to select Ridder (or even Corral), so I’m expecting it.
No, they didn’t take Penning.
I kept mumbling, āNot Malik Willis, not Malik Willis.ā
My wife was like, āWhoās Malik Willis?ā
At least now I donāt have to tell her
Well what a disappointment. Worst value of Rd 1 so far. Wait until Jody Allen sells and Pete Carroll retires to get too worked up about it. They’re in a holding pattern as long as Vulcan owns it. Go watch something else.
Gonzaga men’s hoops
Oregon Duck Football
“Cross is good pick. Well done Seahawks! Many had him going to Carolina. Gives up very few sacks. Build up the trenches!”
— Mr. Cross’s mom
lol…..
re-establish the run, re-establish a pass-rush … draft an air raid pass blocker.
Here’s Rob’s two sentence summary on Cross from a few days ago; “One of the most overrated players in the draft for me. His narrow base is crying out to be relentlessly bull-rushed at the next level, he didnāt run-block in the air-raid and his testing profile is āmehā.”
No idea what Pete and John are looking for anymore, maybe they really are pivoting to some entirely new philosophy…
“Charles Cross is the No. 3 overall prospect in this class, per PFF’s Big Board. He didn’t allow a pressure on 66 pass-blocking snaps vs. Alabama last season.”
Rob’s not the only analyst around.
If Russ were here and we wanted to pass it 30-40 times a game the pick makes sense. If you want to be a power running team it makes no sense. Drew Lock throwing 30-40 times, yikes.
Drew Lock won’t be the QB in ’23 though…
UK based. Stayed up to watch this first round for the first time because of our top ten pick.
Can’t believe I thought the people who traded for Jamal Adams and traded away the greatest ever Seahawks quarter back would do anything different
It’s just Pete’s Alzheimer’s telling him this is a good pick. A safety is next!
he just hasn’t been the same since his plant-based turn.
OK, so looking forward… Please no trade-up back into R1 for a QB.
Here’s hoping some of the long list of Rob’s favs at EDGE are around at 40/41.
Well we need O-line. Let’s just hope their player evaluation was good. Time will tell.
I am so f-ing disgusted right now wtf
Because they addressed their biggest need with the best pass blocker in the draft?
Lt is the biggest need?
Last years defense says hi
Well they did add two pass rushers and don’t have an LT so I’d say yes
“Pass rush is our top priority”
Pete Carroll after the last game of the 2021 season
They added Shelby Harris and Nwosu and traded Russ since he said that.
Becaause they had top 10 pick for the first time in a decade, and decided to spend it on a player who has no chance fo be a star and is a mediocre athlete. I really want to puke.
“no chance fo be a star”
Alright this is just silly reactionary nonsense. Of course he’s got a chance. He’s a pure pass blocker.
I would say center is the biggest need, and they could have resigned D Brown. and I wouldnt say that the pass rush is fixed, not by a long shot
Like I predicted the leadership has revealed its plan = tank! At least we know now. Expect a trade back up for a shitty quarterback and a safety in round 2.
Now watch these idiots Still use one of our 2nds and more to move up & draft Ridder.
For anyone that’s real upset, from Adam Jude:
“Charles Cross is the No. 3 overall prospect in this class, per PFF’s Big Board. He didn’t allow a pressure on 66 pass-blocking snaps vs. Alabama last season.”
Reactionary takes about him not being an “impact player” are probably going to look really silly next year.
Didn’t even Cross my mind they would do that
The Hawks basically traded LT Christian Darrisaw and Jermaine Johnson for Jamal Adams (17.5M APY)
At least it wasn’t a QB ….
Rob what pick would you have been comfortable taking Cross ideally?
Post Draft Free Agent signing? lol
You know the watt vs. Mcdowell conversations?
If Cross doesn’t work it’s everyone until 40 in the draft that we could have had.
Please get the second round right.
Earlier today I posted that I prayed Rob’s mock was wrong. How foolish of me.
Trading back and taking Penning would have been preferable to this.
At least people didnāt have to look up who the guy isā¦ so that is a positive
I mean Rob has cross going #5
I’m not mad about Cross. Just more salty about not taking JJ. I think remove the saltiness and Cross could be a good pick.
What’s better:
Cross, trade up for Ridder, Cine
Or
Cross, Cine, Christian Watson
Cross, Cine, Christian Watson
He better not turn be the LJ collier off linemenā¦
Hate the pickā¦they took a long time to make the pick, they were clearly trying to make a trade and failed, and yet again were left with a suboptimal optionā¦really bad start. giants on the other side are killing it
Not my favorite pick but at least itās not penning
Enough with the stupid Amazon ad already, announce the pick.
So he is as of now our starting LT; because It would be awfully embarrassing if Forsythe beats him out.
I sure hope this pick turns out to be a win.
Wow, big trade.
Am I crazy or is that incredible value for Detroit?
No shit, wtf?
425 pts from Detroit for 475 from the Saints
If Rob doesn’t include Jamal Adams as part of Seahawks draft picks this year, Im gonna b pissssssssseeed!!!!!!!
Ok not what we wanted. But Cross was high on most boards. So we got the consensus 3rd best Tackle in the draft right? Letās not panic Hawk fans. We can still win this draft.
The scenario we feared for.
Houston doesnāt even need to trade up for JJ.
I do trust robs opinion on cross but I like trying to address the position and his last name isnāt penning.
I really dislike the Cross pick. With Johnson still on the board, it seems downright batty to pass on finally upgrading the Edge with a young stud.
That said, at least it’s a position of need, as opposed to grabbing Hamilton and forcing him into a role. Perhaps this means that our time with D. Brown is done and we can turn that money into a FA Edge that’s left. Clowney or Dunlap redux? Not the sexiest but something?
I’m really reaching for a silver lining here…..
I’m a little disappointed like many of you about not taking JJ. However he is dropping for some reason. Maybe we overrated him. He still felt like a home run to me.
Cross feels like a safe pick. I think he’s going to be solid and let’s be objective. He’s a good fit for our style of offense. We’ll run the ball but not in the same way during the Super Bowl years. He’s a wide-zone LT.
Overall, it could have been worse.
There was a rumor on WalterFootball that Jermaine had some major character concerns pop up, and there was a rumor posted here that a top pick had gang ties or something along those lines. I’m really curious what is going on there.
That’s a bummer. JJ dropping is a huge surprise to me.
off to new england for him I guess huh?
Anybody here like Cross? Looking for some differing opinions. I feel like he’s highly rated at most places, but everyone here is acting like we picked Germaine Ifedi 2.0. Just find it interesting.
I don’t know how to feel about him honestly. If we go by old Seahawks’ metrics then no…he’s not a Seahawk.
The new way of thinking seems to me suggest Cross is a great fit in our style of offense. That wide-zone type of running with movement and athleticism.
I’m a big fan and think it’s a great pick
I hope you’re right. I’ll be happy if you are.
PFF loves him so I’m gonna just be optimistic
https://www.pff.com/nfl/players/charles-cross/98401/draft-profile
I’ll try to keep an open mind… I think that they could’ve traded back and still got him. Oh well, looks like my Sundays are pretty open this year š
I’m good with it. Would have preferred JJ but that doesn’t make Cross an awful pick. I think the hype of taking an impact player at 9 on D is making the pick seem worse than it is.
He’s not Ifedi 2.0, that would’ve been Penning. I definitely like Cross better than Penning.
It is just a classic SEA draft for need reaction pick.
I would qualify ‘draft for need reaction pick’ as overdrafting a player like no one really had round 1 grades on like Penny and LJ Collier. Cross was projected by a lot of people in this range, so I feel like this wasn’t really reactionary. Just a basic pick.
Fair enough, agreed it doesn’t compare to LJ, and Penny as just a flat miss, but not a reaction in my opinion. I know Sam’s Film was high on Cross, and specifically to SEA and the wide zone. Let’s see what they do at IOL and RB.
Love it. He’s the anti-Tom Cable pick. Better in pass pro than run blocking. Looks good on vids I watched. Complete opposite of Ifedi.
That’s one of the reasons I’m nonplussed.
I want us to build a strong running game behind a punishing defense. This is a step away from that.
Oh well, at least our franchise QB will have better protection…oh wait…
When was the last time Carrol and Schneider drafted a good tackle? Okung was it, they spent the 6th pick on him, and he made 1 Pro Bowl and left after 4 years. Not good value. And he was it. They’ve never drafted a good tackle, and they aren’t changing that today.
Odds are very good this guy won’t be a perennial Pro Bowler, so he was a wasted pick, a desperate reach for need, like most of Carrols first picks.
This is just sad.
Counterpoint, most of the tackles drafted weren’t top-10 picks except Okung. Cross is highly rated by a lot of analysts. Making definitive statements about this pick seems very premature.
I just feel like people here can be a little reactionary and definitive just echoing Rob’s opinion. Which I highly value Rob’s opinion too, but it’s not the only one out there.
If they can get Cine and either Mafe/Sam Williams, I’ll be pleasantly surprised.
I love defense and so wanted Jermaine Johnson at 9, but Cross is the best pure left tackle in the draft. Yes, his TEF score isnāt what they usually look for, but he plays a premium position and doesnāt have the holes in his game Penning does.
First of all, thank you Rob for your coverage of the draft every year. I discover your blog 5 years ago and since then, I learn so much about the game. So thank you for providing one of the best draft coverage on internet !
Even if I wanted Jermaine Johnson, I wish good luck to Charles Cross. I hope he become a good player for Seattle and prove us (the ones who wanted someone else !) wrong in the long term.
Go Hawks !
Wow, Philly trades up too with the Texans. WRs flying off the board like hotcakes.
Whoa, Texans got quantity for moving down just 2 spots:
Tons of trades happening now. Hope Seattle wasn’t turning these down for the opportunity to take Cross.
Cross? What a snooze fest
Offensive line picks are rarely exciting.
But locking up the LT spot(premium position) with a highly rated 21 year old is smart team building.
Why is JJ falling this far?
Thinking the same thingš¤
Maybe more teams are looking at pass rush win percentage. JJ was one of the lowest in the draft.
Is there any way hawks trade back in?
Glad you stayed up for this Rob?
Steep price for Detroit, but Jameson Williams is the best WR in this draft IMO.
Was gonna say the same. I think the cost of moving up is a better investment than London at 8.
Is it a steep price? They move down 10 picks in the 2nd and give up a 3rd to jump 20 picks in the 1st
I have to say, Iām not a huge fan of Cross, but at least it wasnāt Penning. I still would have taken JJ though.
Eagles jump the Ravens for JJ?
Positive mental attitude:
If they don’t come back into the first there are a good deal of players from the second through fourth.
Oh, you sweet, sweet summer child.
I tried to tell myself not to get too hyped, to temper my expectations this year. Then Atlanta drafted a receiver and I lost it.
But as Goodall stood at the podium I reminded myself āPete Carroll still runs the war roomā. Iām glad I had that moment of clarity.
Didnāt JJ work Cross over at the Senior Bowl?
Geoff Schwartz on Cross, hopefully the big man works out for us. Although I’m stunned we didn’t trade down with the deals that came after our selection, Cross would still be on the board now.
https://twitter.com/geoffschwartz/status/1519845975900184578
Teams knew we weren’t going WR, so no need to trade with us.
I’m more comfortable with the Cross pick after reading what PFF wrote. I don’t feel bad at this point. I was a little worried they were going to go full Al Davis and just draft on testing.
Rob had mentioned that if they had not tried to outsmart someone like Kiper then they would have done better. Maybe this is a nod in that direction. Let’s see what happens though… the round isn’t over.
Now all they need to do to have a complete mess is trade back into the 1st and take a quarterback
Serious question, who is the best O-Lineman Mike Leach has produced in his 22 years of coaching? Luis Vasquez and Manny Ramirez were guards who started for a long time in the league but that was in 2007 and 2009. Not much success since then.
I suppose now they use 40 to move up and take Ridder
I just watched a few scout films and he might be a good LT.
Randy Mueller sure liked the pick of Cross in the top 10. Surprised Seattle stuck to it vrs trading around. I’ve always liked him. He says Cross has a little bit of nastiness to him. So I’ll try to stay positive, it definitely shows Seattle is willing to go in a different way. I’ll be watching alot more on Cross tonight. Hoping it turns out to be a win
Cross is only 21. PFF had him had him as the top OT, 3rd overall. A top left tackle is so hard to sign in free agency. So they filled an obvious hole at a premium position.
Something must be going on the JJ falling, maybe the Hawks still have a shot to trade up and grab him or he falls to 40? Very interesting
WalterFootball’s profile for JJ has this:
“Johnson does get hurt with teams giving him bad marks for football character and have concerns about dealing with him. Some sources say that Johnson’s football character is worse than Kayvon Thibodeaux, and that played a role in Johnson leaving Georgia.”
Something is up here with him.
If that’s the case snag him in round 2
Apparently an awful interview too. Has turned teams off.
There’s whispers out there that one of the top edges has credible gang connections, but there’s nothing concrete saying who it is.
Plus he’s overaged.
I wanted JJ. Time to dig into Cross I guess.
Initial Positives:
– Is an actual tackle. No shift to move to guard.
– Has a marketable skill in pass blocking. Smooth.
– Digging into it a little he’s the same build and some testing similar to Duane Brown.
– Good production vs SEC competition.
Big question is the run blocking. Not out of the question he improves. The Rams scheme has made good tackles for worse stock.
Samuel Gold thinks he’ll be just fine and I tend to trust him
“@SamuelRGold
Charles Cross is a very good pass blocker and his “inability” to run block is extremely overblown. His scheme didn’t have a ton of it, but he showed the footwork and angles to be a great reach blocker in the NFL. Plus his drive blocks for midzone weak will be fine. #Seahawks”
Man, that pink suit was something.
Really thought the Charger would move up for Davis. Eagles jump Baltimore for him.
Ravens go Penning now?
Kyle Hamilton to the Ravens seems right
Great call
It’s… interesting to me that after weeks of being mocked in the top 10 Jermaine Johnson is still on the board. not sure what to make of it. Do teams know something we don’t? All these so-so wide receivers being taken. I like jameson williams but the others are just ok.
The mock-bots had JJ sliding a lot the last few days.
If the plan is to start Cross at LT this year, Hawks are adding a starting LT and saving the $8M or so in cap space they would have had to pay Duane Brown to re-sign. Seems like a winning draft so far.
I have to admit, the only reason I’m disappointed by this pick is because he’s not JJ. Other than this, I didn’t watch much of any Cross because I
….. never thought he was going to be the pick. Yes, I think all of us wanted an impact defensive player, (especially pass rusher) with this pick, but it is a long draft, and there is still a lot of picks to go. I’m not disappointed that they selected an OT (a premium position) and there is still a lot of room to pick some impact pass rushers tomorrow.
Thinking trade downs were available is a general massive oversight of most mocks/predictions
You can move back into the first with a 3rd or 4th.
Cross being interviewed now and is on 710 espn
Honestly, I haven’t watched tape on him. Samuel R Gold likes him. Rob doesn’t. And he’s not an “elite” athlete though he does seem to have the right amount of size to play left tackle. Let’s hope for the best.
I’m hoping to add Williams (Edge) and Tindall (LB) in second to add to Cross and then you have 3 contributors.
Even though Cross wasn’t our favorite pick, do you think that’d be better than what we would have gotten at LT if we would have waited – for example, Johnson, Reimann, and then Tindall?
Just trying to see the possible positive to come from this – that maybe Cross at Tackle in the first and then Edge in the 2nd is better as a duo than we would have been able to get if we took Edge in first and Tackle in the second?
Go Hawks!
yeah, it’s possible they have their eye on an edge that they know will be there in round 2. maybe they even like him better than Johnson, and they get their LT (hopefully) of the future.
Jordan Davis ahead of JJ
Anyone got Cross full testing numbers?
40 Yard Dash: 4.95
Bench Press: N/A
Vertical Jump: 26
Broad Jump: 112
3 Cone: 7.88
20 Yard Shuttle: 4.61
His broad is pretty good
And he re-did his vert at pro day and jumped 30″. So actually the jumps were pretty explosive. His TEF would be good if he benched more than 20 reps.
https://draftscout.com/dsprofile.php?PlayerId=1029780&DraftYear=2022 shows he hit exactly 20, thanks blitzy
https://draftscout.com/dsprofile.php?PlayerId=1029780&DraftYear=2022
I wouldāve taken the Saint trade if it offered. I feel sick now.
Havent had a chance to verify, but very good if true
Charles Cross- One sack allowed on 700+ pass attempts. Played against the highest level of competition as well
I seriously hope that the rest of the picks left that there are some dee studs that shape the dee identity
I am frustrated with some of the PCJS thinking history will only tell
Kyle Hamilton at 14 is a pretty good value. BUT i am pretty surprised the ravens passed on Johnson. I think they really wanted Jordan Davis. Great move by Philly to go up and secure him.
Think the Ravens are trying to pull off what we’ve suggested here and trade up for Linderbaum, as they have a hole at C rn
Damn. Cardinals making moves.
Wondering if we should trade one of our 2nds to move up and nab Jermaine Johnson, who is bizarrely still available.
My thoughts as well, do something like 40+41+4th for first and a 3rd
Old. Rumours of bad interviews and character .
Not me. I’d rather try and get Williams in round 2 or the A&M kid in the 4th
yeah, keep your draft capital. Williams and tindell or one of the centers.
Looks like Cross did well at RT when asked by the pros. This doesn’t rule out resigning Brown or any move. We got a pure tackle prospect, not a tweener. I like how quick he seemed to get ahead of DEs making moves.
Admittedly, I didn’t do much homework on Cross or Penning because of work and such, but I was a bit more worried about penning because he seemed to be more highly ranked because of testing. Sometimes testing isn’t everything, and Cross performed well in the SEC.
I’m curious about some of the negative thoughts here — a lot of the experts that I trust (Sam Gold, Geoff Schwartz) are quite high on him. Huge position of need, as we have zero starter caliber OTs under contract. Very valuable position, maybe behind only QB and pass rusher. Nate Tice called Cross his favorite tackle, and best chance to stick at LT (https://theathletic.com/3273718/2022/04/27/charles-cross-ikem-ekwonu-or-evan-neal-pros-and-cons-of-top-ots-in-2022-nfl-draft/). Seems like a home run to me!
Wow, Ravens just sent Hollywood Brown to the Cardinals. Reunited with Kyler.
Didn’t see that coming, and Baltimore has who at WR now lol
DK?
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Andrews at TE?
Seems like a big overpay for Hokywood Brown, who has been kind of disappointing relative to his peers in his draft class (DK, AJ, Deebo, McLaurin)
Looks like Jermaine Johnson is viewed in the second level of edge rushers with Karlafis, Mafe, etc according to the first 15 picks.
Imagine if we trade up and get Zion along with getting a center in the 2nd. Offensive line complete. Then get Pierre King jr or that RB y’all are talking about.
Pierre Strong JR…Yes sign me up
and trade peacock for Michael Thomas straight across
Here’s what Chris Simms said:
I think
@Seahawks
were probably shocked Charles Cross was here at #9.
Unbelievable potential, arguably the best athlete among the OTs. Plus the Seahawks NEED O-linemen. What a value.
So weird that everyone in the media loves the pick.
Makes me cautiously optimistic.
Muh better than Penning. The fact that Simms likes him makes me feel better
If Philly walks out with Thanos and Jermaineā¦I canāt even finish that thoughtā¦theyāre going to be like pretty good, or something.
Kenyon Green at 15 feels like the first major “reach” of the draft
+1
The only way to turn this around is if Tyler Linderbaum can be had at pick 40.
Turn it around?
They drafted a highly rated 21 year old at a premium position.
Agreed. We have actually made a decent pick at the 2nd or 3rd most valuable position in the draft.
Sexy pick? No.
Meat and potato pick? Yes – and I am hungry for more!
Is it decent?
I think so. They wanted a tackle, clearly didn’t like Penning enough to trade down. The only thing I was concerned about was the knock on his run blocking but maybe because he wasn’t asked to do much of it, the front office think that can be improved. But again though you can counter that a top-10 pick shouldn’t need to have such an issue on a team that is supposed to be run heavy.
Do you think they will re-sign Brown and break Cross in at RT?
I think it’s more like they felt handcuffed to take a tackle and an offer to move down wasn’t forthcoming — as Tony P reported.
Wasnāt my pick I was all in for the best OC in the draft that graded out 6.7 thatās first round talent.
16 picks in and already FIVE receivers drafted. With possibly more to come. wow
The two WRs most rumored to be traded, DK and Deebo, stay with their teams. Meanwhile everyone else is trading their WRs heading for huge paydays.
Holy cow.
Crazy. And with the run on WRs, no QBs taken. If Seattle is going to add a QB, it’s more and more likely they won’t need to trade up.
Great pick by WAS. Dotson best hands in the draft. Should do great as a #2 next to McLaurin.
Damn nice one Chargers!
Thinking our pick caused the run on WRs and subsequent trades. Few teams that could have been interested in Cross, including the Jets and Texans since they picked CBs. Where’s Penning going?
fantastic pick for chargers. QB will be happy
Shefter saying Titans trading AJ Brown to Eagles…
Aj Brown what!!!!!!?????
Holy shit AJ Brown to the Eagles!!
Guess they don’t really trust Tannehill, and plan on running the ball 40 times a game….
The Iggles gave him a 4yr/$100m contract with $57m guaranteed according to Sirius NFL Radio…
Was never realistic that we’d get Zion, but he was one of my favorites.
solid pick for the Chargers.
Agree. I do predict we’ll have a shot at either Linderbaum or Jergens
yeah, centers just never go high.
one of the top guys will be there if we want him.
But I also want an edge and a LB!
Feeling better about Cross. Didn’t pay him any mind during the Combine etc. because he’s such an average athlete and not what Seattle usually want in an OT.
But his tape is solid. Not a lot of run plays, but he’s a sticky blocker in pass pro. Recovers well.
If we can leave the draft with one of Linderbaum or Jurgens in the 2nd, or even Raimann (yeah random but I think he’s gonna be an all pro OG), the OL will be well reset.
Holy moly every wideout is getting traded
Interesting that Johnson is falling so far. Seems like something is telling teams that he isn’t part of that first tier. While i appreciate and value testing metrics, i also value the fact that he has allowed like 3 sacks in 700 reps against top notch SEC competition. I think a LT is a good pick and a realistic start to a rebuild. Run blocking? Well, they also said DK could only run a couple of routes. I think the choice is fine. I don’t think you will find a better tackle later, and i like Cross more than Penning. I think there are MANY EDGE players in the next tier. I suspect there were literally no real trade down opportunities. Lets see what happens tomorrow. There won’t be any trading back up.
That perp walk is insane
So if you’re Tannehill, you’re not pleased
Funny to think that Christian Kirk’s contract would have reverberations throughout the league like this.
Remember guys, still a ton of quality guys left and the 1st round isn’t necessarily over for SEA
Malik Willis likely going to Pittsburgh. Linderbaum, Lloyd, JJ II, McDuffie, Wyatt, Cine, Penning all still on the board. Hawks looking good for rd 2.
With all of these WR going early, there’s still time for GB or KC to blow our socks off with an offer for DK Metcalf.
Honestly, if I’m GB I don’t know how they don’t go all in to get him. It’s now or never for them. Rodgers to Metcalf would be an incredible connection.
Please, no. DK is our one true x factor player.
AJ already signed by Philly 4 years, 100 million, 57 guaranteed
DK gonna be in the same neighborhood
Solid moves by both the Titans (trade their star WR before he gets paid and draft his replacement with the pick from the trade, and by the Eagles who already had their newly acquired star WR’s contract extension already signed.
That’s how you do it on both sides.
That’s a lot of money
Thankfully the Seahawks are now a finesse team so it won’t matter
These trades are just crazy! This whole offseason has been the craziest offseason ever. Draft included!
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Entertaining. Every week some new bombshell was dropped.
And next comes day 2 and the real meat of this draft.
Johnson must have a medical flag
And/or age 24?
Character concerns are the rumor. Also pass rush win rate isn’t great. Also 24 years old. I think he’ll still be drafted late first-ish though.
Man, teams saw the WR market and said “nope”.
Good CB will drop to 2nd round now.
Penning just Judo chopped his Mom after she hugged him!
Rob said above:
“The Titans have dealt A.J. to the Eagles for a first and third round pick. No wonder the Eagles didnāt want to trade up for a receiver. The deal gives Tennessee #18 and a third rounder. Is now a bad time to remind everyone that Seattle paid twice as much for Jamal Adams?”
I wept yet again
It’s been two years. Time to get over it. Look to the future, can’t change the past.
THIS.
Please dude. Please. Lets just let this rest after this year once our lost draft capital is spent. But to hear it OVER and OVER and OVEr again, really detracts from some of your other better points.
Not to mention the CONSTANT name calling. Speak about football, in football terms. Peacock, Soggy bun? Come’on we can do better. I believe you are a smart fan, and this doesn’t reinforce that, its just childish.
There’s gonna be 2 really good players available at #40 & #41.
The Pete Carrol era started with a top ten OT pick. It was a glaring need. Deja vu with the rebuild. I’m much happier with Cross (who I know nothing about) over Penning.
If we do go QB early the only one I won’t puke about is Corral.
Penning @16 for a RT is a good value.
Pickett. Wow. Good for him. Stays in Pittsburgh.
Not on TV yet.
If GB offers their 2 firsts for DK do you take it?
No
We could trade up right now if there’s someone we really want
I might honestly. IF JJ is there at 22 and then get Devonta Wyatt/Devin Lloyd at 28.
#22, #53 & a 2023 1st.
they will be desperate now i’d pull their pants down and want a second or third as well
Just thought the same thing. If they aināt re-signing DK at $23-25M/yr, a trade makes sense
Yes.
We do not need to sink that much $$$ at receiver, especially when we lack a QB to throw to him.
What if they traded up for Penning and ended up with bookend tackles? Lucas could also fit at RT in rd 2.
I really hate the Air Raid offense, but I guess the pick has a couple things going for it.
1. Not only a true tackle prospect, but a likely LT.
2. 21 Years old in a draft with a lot of older prospects.
3. If you could pick one thing you would want a tackle prospect to be good at, it’s pass blocking.
If he works out, he could start at LT for 15 years. So there is upside, potentially more than Penning. It just freaks me out drafting an Air Raid OL.
Penning already went to the Saints at 19.
But Lucas will be available………………..
I’m down.
Yes no Penning. Would you rather have RT Lucas or C Linderbaum?
Take Lucas or trade down. There are good C available in 3rd.
Yeah, I was relieved it wasn’t Penning, then thought about the potential of the 5th year option, and then learned about his age-it’s sorta growing on me.
I’d like to see Williams and Tindall in the 2nd round as well.
Find all was one of my favorite college players to watch and everytime I did. I was hoping he will be a future Seahawk.
I wonder when Pete was talking with. Lane Kiffin and gushing. It was about williams and not Corrall. I guess Kiffin said in an interview that Williams is going to be a great pro player.
I say we start looking into trading up for JJ or Devin Lloyd.
Iām thinking the same
I’ll pass. Too much talent in rounds 2 and 3 “meat and potatoes”
Trade up for Wyatt.
Goodness me. Lot to take in here. Johnson falling like this screams major red flags that havenāt come out publicly. Far too good a player to drop otherwise.
Cross is whatever. Funnily enough almost the exact sort of player Wilson was after for a decade. Not really my sort of player, but could have been plenty worse – genuine tackle as well, not a project whoās going to have to kick in to guard. Lot of fun talent left on the table for tomorrow, just have to not do anything silly with a QB and weāll be in decent shape.
Chiefs trade up with Pats
NE are still the masters of trade return.
What did they give up?
Chiefs jump up to get ahead of Packers
Have a feeling Chiefs might be interested in JJ
Pickett over Willis is a shock to me. Tomlin seemed like he was in love with Willis.
ditto
I don’t know how many of you all are watching the ESPN broadcast, but the guy with the huge, ragged beard looks EXACTLY like my forklifting counterpart at work. I have to show him a screenshot of this guy
Well, if your workmate isnāt at work tomorrowā¦
I scheduled PTO for today and tomorrow, so I’ll have to wait till monday
Well, so much for PIT being all over Malik.
Chiefs trading up with the Patriots. I’m going to guess they take advantage of JJ skipping.
Of the teams left to pick in the first round none need a QB this year.
New England – Mac Jones
Green Bay x2 – Rodgers
Dallas – Prescott
Buffalo – Allen
Tennessee – Tannehill
TB – Brady
KC – Mahomes
Cincy – Burrows
Minnesota – Cousins
Top of rd 2:
Jacksonville –
Minny – Cousins
NYJ x2 – Wilson
NJG – Possible need but seem to want to give Jones a chance to win the job this year
Houston – Possible but drafted Mills last year
Chicago – Fields
Willis, Ridder, Corral, Howell all should be available at 40/41.
That said, I don’t want a QB this year but hopeful that they don’t waste any extra picks to draft one this year.
Wow lot of defensive talent still on the board. After the first 5 picks were defense, the next 13 out of 15 were offense.
I feel much better w the Cross pick after watching several videos.
“Draft insider” Tony Pauline being wrong on every single “rumor” he heard.
Shocking..
Well, maybe if Cross hadn’t been available, they indeed would have traded down and targeting Penning. You never know and I don’t see why the aggression towards Tony. He reports what he hears and is right plenty often.
Makes the most sense
You are right Sea Mode, that was a cheap shot.
I don’t agree with his track record being great though. I think he reports so many different things that some become reality but most of his talk is as pointless as any of the other “rumors” out there.
How would you feel if they selected Ridder tomorrow in the 2nd? Basically shifting from Tony’s Penning/Ridder prediction to Cross/Ridder? Would it be that far off? Or he might be wrong, so?
2nd point: Tony P makes his biscuits in “smokescreen season”. The time when fake reports are thrown out by teams, agents, and everyone else involved in the process, YET he is the #1 insider for a reason. He sifts through the BS, between nose for truth and insider knowledge, and is more right than the average bear, and rest of the draft community.
GB not taking a WR is the most GB thing ever….
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Okay GB, special price on DK for you. #28, #53 & #59
In a Pigs Eye….
No effing way. Keep DK.
28, 59 and next year’s first. They don’t have much for options
It’s insane that JJ has lasted this long. Something has to be wrong that no one knew about. For the 4th ranked pass rusher to last this long, something is up.
You sure would think so
I know the salary is a big part of the equation – but if the trading price for DK is a mid-level 1st and a 3rd – then let’s please just keep him.
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With the Adamsā, Hill and now Brown trade, Iām guessing DK annual avg was gotta be $24-26M/yr
but starting next year, we got more money than good players…and should have a cheap QB on the roster. I’m ok taking the bet on DK.
We will keep DK. Management love him
Just for clarity, if SEA wants to keep him, Iām totally for it. With a rookie QB, we can afford paying a WR that for sure
Bills jump in front of DAL. Wonder for whom.
This draft can still be a huge success. Letās get these next 2 picks right.
Imagine having Cross in 1.
Then letās say Lloyd and Williams.
That’d be insane.
But looking possible!
You’ve got my vote!
Gotta admit for better or worse, this is the most exciting and entertaining off season since 2013.
No other edges are drafted either. Will be interesting if Ebikete goes before JJ. That would be a atory.
I think if GB offered 28, 53, 59 for DK, Iād take it.
Sign me up!
Trade up for JJ or Lloyd!
Fuck the Cowboys
Lol! Tell us how you really feel! š
Crazy J. Johnson is still available!
JJ landing in Dallas would just seem right lol
A good player but still too early for me with a C.
I feel great for McDuffie. Going to a solid team.
Told my wife the same thing
Not done with 1st round but there are so many value still left for 2nd days.
Kills me to say this but good pick of need for the Cowpatties
Smith is a fair value there.
Tyler Smith? eh… I liked Zach Tom more.
Close in your mock on Tyler Smith, Rob.
Linderbaum next to Baltimore?
How is JJ on the board?! Some medical issue? If not, lets trade up already
Quick Breakdown on Cross. Liking the pick more and more. Not a reach but instead getting arguably the best pure LT in the draft.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItpEVwTpAZs
His jumps were actually pretty explosive after he re-did his vert. at pro day. His bench is what killed his TEF score.
Solid athlete. Great in a zone scheme which is what the Rams use. Not a mauler, but not a passive chew toy either.
His 40 was pretty good too (4.95)
But agreed I’m liking the pick more. And agreed he’s arguably the only pure LT in this class.
And there goes Linderbaum
anyone else shocked Jermaine Johnson still on the board?
also a bit shocked to see Utah LB Devin Lloyd also available
And Boye Mafe is still on the board.
Obviously should major flags with JJ
Yep. Something is VERY wrong here. We might have dodged a bullet.
hard to know all the behind information.
if the Seahawks get a C and a Dee End pass rusher day 2
I think I can be ok with it
Meh. I spoke to a pretty good source who said he was 11-20.
Video thoughts on Charles Cross to Seattle:
https://youtu.be/KL1y9BSOD9Y
Rob, I don’t think we should label him as not explosive. He jumped a 9’04” broad and a 30″ vert. That’s pretty good.
If he had hit the 27 reps on the bench, his TEF would be 3.08.
The rest of the doubts are fair, though. My guess is they just project him as being capable of doing more than he was asked to do in college and will back themselves to develop him.
We didnāt trade at this point I think I would taken best player available and grabbed Jordan Davis DT Georgia.
My biggest remaining wish in round 1 is that someone takes Kyler Gordon.
And world peace, of course.
Imagine trading back up into the first? A swap of 3rds would probably still allow us to get Pierce.
Cross
Lloyd / JJ
Mafe / Tindall
Pierce
Would be ridiculously sexy
more than enough vaule in the 2nd no need to move back up
I’m down with that…maybe we won’t have to trade up as much though…
Pauline reported hearing ‘character’ concerns for Johnson.
Shouldn’t have robbed that liquor store.
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How far does he drop? Doyou take him at 40/41 if still there?
NFL network just gave the whole league a good long shot of Baltimore’s big board.
I called that one. š
Gosh. How do the Ravens simply keep drafting good players?
Understanding how to project players from college to their system.
And BPA to the death
BAL is the NFL version of a pachinko machine. They know some balls will fall outside 2 standard deviations, and they jump on it.
Linderbaum off the board, but there are still good pass rushers and interior OL on the board. Good pick by BAL. Not overly disappointed.
Lamar Jackson’s response to the pick:
https://twitter.com/Lj_era8/status/1519872308537659398
I think he was just seeing the Hollywood Brown news, honestly.
So he pissed cuz he lost Hollywood and they didn’t replace him?
Jets just moved up for…?
Pauline did say they like JJ, so maybe?
Indeed
Hey Sea Mode got a question for you. I’ve been around the blog for over a decade as ‘DC’ until the 3rd new DC finally got me to switch. After last years’ draft I took the season off because I knew it was going to suck.
Anyway, my question is, do you know what happened to Volume12? He lived & breathed Seahawks’ football here but I know he had lost his mom & brother somewhat recently. Any idea what happened to him?
JJ at 41?
Rob I think you seriously should offer your draft scouting services to the Ravens!
I remember when you profiled CB jimmy Smith and others and Ravens picked a lot of your guys you wanted for the Seahawks hahahah
Dont change stripes though … love you as our Seahawks draft guru
And there goes JJ to the JJets
And there goes JJ. Jets having a helluva draft. Assuming Mafe goes to KC with one of their two 1st rounders, Sam Williams and Arnold Ebiketie are the best remaining options.
Would love to see one of them and Chenal with our seconds. I know Rob likes Tindall, but I get massive Kuechly vibes from Chenal.
totally agreed they filled so many holes and look solid for this draft if JJ is the difference maker we think he is the Jets got great value with their late 1st
George Karlaftis
hey, Rob gets credit for JJ to jets, right?
And there goes JJ. Something was off about him to make him fall that only teams saw. I’m still OK with Cross, and there are still MANY options.
That’s a REALLY good pick for the JAGS. Worth making that trade up imo
And now the Jags move up. This has to be the record amount of R1 trades, right?
Will the Hawks trade up for Malik Willis?
No.
Please God no
Would love to see one of them and Chenal with our seconds. I know Rob likes Tindall, but I get massive Kuechly vibes from Chenal.
I like Chenal but to be fair Kuechly can flat out cover, can Chenal covers?
Chenal is a beast.
No, Chenal cannot cover. And his build is quite different from Kuechly.
It will all make sense when we draft Will Anderson next year. Trust the processš
The jets better be hiring JS when he is canned
It’s very possible that he is already on their payroll.
lol
I wonder if the Jags want Cam Jurgens here
They traded with KC, right?
Tampa Bay
Thanks
Holy shit. The jets and the giants. New York is back if there qbs can be half decent
therein lies the rub
indeed
Damn. really, really wish we had made a move there and grabbed Johnson. This stings. Oh, at least we have Jamal Adams.
Don’t hate the pick, don’t love the pick. We needed a LT, check. Let’s see how he handles the run blocking, when he was asked about it he states “watch the film” pass blocking is exceptional, he’s also highly athletic, with exceptional hands.
Lots of love for him on many different sites, just not on here, I feel like what most are saying is very accurate, it will be easier to find an edge day two than a Left tackle.
We drafted a need, lots of draft left!
Cheers!
After watching several videos breaking him down, I love this pick. His footwork is great, and mirrors very well. He has room to get stronger. He is natural. Matt Stinchcomb, former lineman really likes him. He was mocked #1 in some mocks
Still a chance for that trade up with Packers to snag Ridder and crush my soul.
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I actually am thinking positive and say they won’t go QB til round 5 or later
I’m thinking that accuracy scores for mock drafts will be pretty bad this year.
Sometimes, a computer simulated draft is as accurate as any other
I would love to see Aaron Rogersā face if GB took Willis with the next pick.
Id pay for that
Rap sheet keeps leaking picks. ugh
Good trade up for the Jags.
Lloyd a really good player. Not sure about athletic upside, but incredible leader and productive.
Hey JS, look at the Jets. That is how you do it.
Watch GB take Travis Jones.
You know it isn’t gonna be a WR
I could see Christian Watson
Never mind they doubling down on Georgia defenders.
Right position. You were close
Knew Wyatt won’t last to the 40.
I Knew Tyler Linderbaum OC at 25 to the early 30ās.
Eh, they lost myles Jack and got Lloyd. Whatever. That exchange doesn’t overall fix a terrible, terrible team. Also Walker could easily be a bust.
Watch us take Willis or Corral in the 2nd
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R2 and R3 is going to be great
Well, maybe cross can add some muscle between now and next season in a pro program. That and work out his āwelcome to the prosā moments where he gets bullrushed into oblivion while we only have Lock at QB.
Look at the bright side… It would ensure a high draft choice next year…
Patriots on the clockā¦
There are going to be at least some fine players available to us in R2.
I am hoping for 2 of Chenal, Tindall, Lucas, Jurgens, Sam Williams, Mafe.
Add Jones, Walker III, Corral & Cine.
yes please for Walker
Slam dunk pick for green bay. That will be an elite defense next year.
I don’t see any options that I would want to trade UP for. Let the draft fall to you and look for good value. If they go full OL and select one of Lucas, Strange, Jurgens, Tom with the next two picks, and an edge rusher like Moye, Karlaftis, Williams, Clemons…. I would call that a success. Well done.
And there goes Strange. Good OL talent still left.
And Karlaftis….
Ooh, now Cole Strange off the board as well. Scramble for Jurgens?
Taking Cross was unexpected. But the whole draft has been unpredictable. If we come out with a Tackle + D Lineman + BPA then I think thatās a pretty good shot of a win.
Mafe to MIN at 32…?
Strange is a reach. But I like him. Classic pats pick. Reminds me of the Joe Thuney pick. A reach for a solid prospect who could have been picked later. But it should work out well for them.
Someone posted already, but here’s the link to the Cross feature on YouTube.
Mississippi Stateās Charles Cross reflects on his journey leading into the NFL Draft | NFL on FOX
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsMKlhalkQE
Bengals pick is in, so only one more chance for trading up.
Trade up for who, I don’t think it’s worth it at this point
I mean to avoid the mistake of trading up for a QB
Whew. Vikings pick is in. Bullet dodged for now.
That flew over my head, I do wonder who takes a shot at Willis though, unfortunately I could see Pete doing so if he lasts
Iād be super happy to take Hall (RB) with 40/41 if heās still there. Thoughts?
Wouldn’t hate it. Would rather see an edge and lb
Have a good feeling about RB Walker III. A real team carrier. Little smaller than the Seahawks tend to draft but not by much.
Agree. I’d prefer a center like Jurgens and the best defensive player available like Clemons, Mafe, Williams, Tindall, etc.
Lol
https://twitter.com/AndrewSiciliano/status/1519880248044580864
The candid honesty makes this even more hilarious š
Interesting that walterfootball gave the PATS his first MILLEN grade for Cole Strange:
“Our first Millen grade of the 2022 NFL Draft is by … the Patriots!? Wow! I don’t get this at all. Bill Belichick easily could’ve made this selection in the second round, or maybe even the third. I had Cole Strange 144th in my mock draft. I looked around to see if I was just way off, and Charlie Campbell had Strange 115th. Going off-side, Dane Brugler had Strange 93rd. Did Belichick think we were in the third round? I don’t understand this pick at all.”
Don’t agree with this one at all. Good pick by the PATS
Walt also gave the Cross pick an A-. Interesting how much grades differ between people.
No trade up for a QB so that’s a relief. Feel kind of bad for Malik though. Seems like a good kid, and the media hyped him up to be way higher than he was.
I think they will take Lewis Cine tomorrow.
Not so fast my friend……….
Lol well there he goes
Vikes just got a great player.
Kiper said he thought Cine was up there with Hamilton as a top safety. And in his opinion, Cine and Tindall were the most underrated players on the GA defense.
My 1st round in the draft didnāt go as planned. The guy picked went at 25. This is 1 pick I missed I still two days of more picks. Believe me if you get 3 players right then ya good.
Well what a great 1st round! A lot to take in.
Thanks for all of this Rob, as always greatly appreciated – and thanks to all those posting making it a good night in that respect also.
Can’t wait for tomorrow š
Another year, another wave of Ravens draft envy.
Glad I’m not the only one…
I mean I knew watching college games this year Georgia’s defense was insane, stacked and nasty. Then all the talk leading up to the draft so it really shouldn’t come as a surprise, but damn they dominated the first round! Five defensive players in the first round!
Take that Russell Wilson!
Glad I didn’t wake up to a LB or a S drafted by us at 9. I’m not very excited by Cross but also don’t really hate the pick. The upside is he’s very young and if we nailed it we can have him play 20 years for us. I don’t think it’s financially possible, but boy would it be great to have Duane Brown train with him for a while.
I still really hope that they can convince Brown to sign a 1 or 2 year contract. That would be perfect.
Overall I think round one was positive. Would have preferred johnson but clearly the league didnāt value him as a top ten or even top 20 pick so I canāt get too bent out of shape. Respect robs opinion tremendously so Iām wary about cross. But I hope Iām wrong. If heās even an average left tackle then I think thatās a good pick. Itās such an important position.
The most positive part is that we didnāt do anything stupid. Didnāt take penning at 9. Didnāt reach for a head scratcher like the smartest guys in the room. And most importantly didnāt force a pick at qb.
Stoked for round 2. Channing Tindall, Abraham Lucas, cam jurgens, Boye Mafe, Arnold Ebikete, Kenneth Walker, Breece hall, Nakobe Dean, Troy Anderson, Travis jones, Logan hall, perrion Winfrey. Two more cornerstone type players will be available
Totally with you on this one. If they spend the next two picks on the OL, that sends a strong message that they are building this team from the OL up, and I would be OK with that. If they spend the next two picks on the front seven defense, same reaction. Both sides of the line have been a problem for a long time. Russel was right to complain about that. If they fully dedicate this draft to one side of the ball of the other, it would be a clear message of building a team from the foundation upwards. I am OK with that. If they spread it out and go OL then DL, even better.
One of those picks needs to be a center though. That’s the position I am most worried about, more so than pass rush.
So who are your ideal picks at 40 and 41? I am hoping that the cross pick means they are less wedded to certain measurables and we get Mafe. Need a pass rusher and I think heās a stud. And personally I want the other one to be Kenneth walker. Lucas is tempting. Would love to have our bookend tackles. And I would love to finally solidify the center position with jurgens or a canāt miss LB like Tindall. But a Pete Carroll team needs a transcendent RB. A guy that can carry a team. Walker is that guy for me
Ideal picks for me are Jurgens and one of seven players who would fit on the front 7
Just ran a simulation on PFN and it had the Jets taking a second edge in Drake Jackson and the Stealers taking another QB in Sam Howell.
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So I scrapped that and ran it again.
Looking at Rob’s horizontal board the only player left with a first round grade is DT Travis Jones.
Players with grades 1-2 are EDGE Boye Mafe (please, please, please), David Ojabo (injury), Sam Williams (yes), Arnold Ebikete (meh), LINEBACKERS Channing Tindall (please, please, please), Leo Chenal (yes), Damone Clark (injury), CORNERBACK Andrew Booth, Kyler Gordon, WIDE RECEIVER Kevin Austin Jr. TACKLE Abraham Lucas, and CENTER Cameron Jurgens.
For me, I will shit myself if Boye Mafe is there at 40. Zach Tom is projected at center but has also played tackle, but I think we gotta get that last Georgia linebacker. Maybe we can pick up Tom later.
Seems as if the league was down on JJ.
Don’t know about Cross. I guess it’s time to dive into the tape.
Sad Kyler didn’t get drafted tonight but he’ll goo early day 2.
Lots to look forward to tomorrow.
You’re a fucking legend Rob. I was less engaged this year than in years past, but your passion for the draft and unrivaled skill in evaluating is always an absolute treat for me. That’s before I even mention that it’s almost 5 am in your neck of the woods. Thank you for everything you do to create this community. Go ‘Hawks!
Rob, how would you feel if the Seahawks picking Jurgens and Lucas at 40 and 41.
Sure why not
That is exactly what I thought you would say. “Establish an identity.”
After a day break in the draft, the team that has the first pick in the next round always has a little more leverage after all the teams get some sleep and reorganize their boards based on the trends.
Tampa has the first pick in round 2 which is worth something like 80 points more than our pick at 40. I would expect about a 20 point markup though. 80 points is about what the 107 pick (is it still held by the Texans?) is worth in the early 4th round.
So any team that wants to jump in front of us is probably going to have to package a late 2nd rounder with a late 3rd.
The Rams, the 49ers, and the Chiefs are poised to screw us here.
Excuse me, not the Rams, the Cardinals.
Rams have no #2 pick.
Anyone else here think that the Lions might try to find a way to get David Ajabo from Michigan WITH Aiden Hutchenson? Pick 14 in the 2nd round might be where they could do it.
I predicted that Jacksonville would take Travon Walker and Detroit would take Aiden Hutchenson for the simple fact that it would sell more tickets for franchises that have a problem doing that. The Lions could wait on Ajabo to get healthy with Huthenson.
They might even be able to trade down to get him.
At first I was really upset over the Cross pick, but eventually I made peace with it. Good tackles are really hard to find and taking a swing on Cross at #9 is understandable. I’m hoping they take a DE at #40 and trade back to about #50 and take a linebacker, then a center, CB, or RB in round 3.
Two picks are in, 40 and 41!