Russell Wilson over RGIII?

For some reason, Shaun King has Cleveland passing on the quarterbacks and Trent Richardson… to take Matt Kalil. Despite the fact they have Joe Thomas. Can right tackles throw the ball?


  1. CHawk Talker Eric

    I’m not one to disparage, but Shaun King is a fool. The object of this exercise was to redraft with the benefit of 20/20 hindsight. And yet King passes on RW not only for CLE but also for MIN! He can’t even get it right knowing how the picks will pan out. I hope for his sake that he doesn’t have any aspirations to work for an NFL FO.

  2. A. Simmons

    I hate that whole “I love Russell Wilson, but…” garbage. You can either play in this league or you can’t. All this talk about right situations and the like is like revisionist history: you don’t really know what would have happened, but your argument is more important than the facts of what did happen. I know 31 other teams that thought like Shaun King and will pay the price for it over the next decade or so. That’s fine with me. Taking Tannehill over Wilson is ridiculous.

    • SunPathPaul

      …and what is funny about that, is he kept saying Russell Wilson went to the ‘perfect place for him’…

      …well so did Tannehill! He has very FEW QB starts, period. Why he did as good as he did was because his offensive coordinator from college went with him to Miami!

      THAT is the ‘perfect situation’ for a talented, yet inexperienced QB going from college to the NFL!

      RW played at NC. He played well.
      RW played at Wisconsin, and killed it!!!

      WHEREVER HE WENT, he was going to MAKE it the best place for him…not like Tannehill at ALL!

      Argh…. Go Hawks!

  3. Nolan

    Honestly I think if your redoing the draft the quarterback go 123 and tannhill probably in top 10 still all four of this QB were good and luck Griffen and Wilson were very good

  4. MattyB

    This just shows that the media is not all that smart. Drafting a premier left tackle when you have on the best is Thomas is foolish with so many other needs. Drafting kueckly top 5 is dumb when you can find similar options later in the draft proven by wagner and david. Saying wilson is a perfect fit for seattle and not for anything other team is absurd when you have no idea. I realize this is all in fun but i got to say Shaun King’s opinion didn’t matter before and never will.

    • MattyB

      wow! should of proof read! Sorry!

  5. Christon

    Andrew Luck was (allegedly) the best QB prospect since John Elway and the Redskins had to give up three #1 picks and a #2 pick to get RGIII and they are talking about RW3 in the same class? I completely agree valuation – it’s just such a great value for a guy going #75 overall. I’m so happy that we finally found our franchise QB.

  6. Glor

    Personally, I don’t think Luck should still go #1. This whole notion that he “carried the team” last year is just ridiculous, the Colts were a good team before they purposefully tanked in 2011. I mean, lets see how the “terrible” Kansas City Chief do this year now that they have replaced Brady Quinn.

    If RG3 stayed healthy, then I think it would go RG3, Wilson, then Luck. However being as he didn’t stay healthy, I think you have to go Wilson, RG3, then Luck (just looking at QBR’s and PR) for all three guys. And to say that Wilson can and will only do well in Seattle’s system is asinine. Shawn King is a fool, and everyone sitting next to him looked at him with crazy eye’s when he made his “redraft”

    • SunPathPaul

      I have to say Glor, I ‘totally believe’ that the Colts tanked last year on purpose.

      That is why they made the playoffs. Not just because of Luck- although he is very good- but because they have a decent team all ready.

      Thus Luck “turning the team around SO much’, as they say in the media, is completely ridiculous!

      • Colin

        I tend to agree Paul. They weren’t THAT terrible, they just had horrific QB in 2011 to dismantle them.

        Indi had a fair amount of “luck” (pardon the pun) in having a MINUS 30 POINT DIFFERENTIAL and yet going 11-5. The odds of that happening are almost zero.

        They’ll come back to earth a little bit this year.

        • Michael

          I don’t think you can really say that they threw the season, then replaced the QB, and everything was right as rain… Don’t forget that they turned over nearly 2/3 of the rest of the roster too.

          • Michael

            Though I agree that they will come back to earth some this season.

          • Glor

            When they finally replaced painter, they started winning. I could hear Polian’s butt puckering those last couple games (they won 2 of their last 3 once Dan got into the system) and to that I say, purposeful tank.

            • Michael

              All I’m saying is that they replaced a heck of a lot more than the QB this season.

  7. bjammin

    From a very biased perspective, I’d rather draft Russell than anyone and wouldn’t trade him for anyone. Might not make sense to everyone, but he is a perfect fit for the Hawks and Carroll’s coaching style/philosophy and a great Yin to Marshawn’s Yang. His work ethic, experience, poise, arm, and athleticism mixed with him taking care of the football and I think he’ll only get better. I wouldn’t want any other qb in the league, all things considered.

    • williambryan

      Absolutely agree. Colts and Redskins fans should be happy with what they have and I’m happy that they’re happy i guess. But I wouldn’t trade RW for anything. I would be shocked if the team doesn’t appear in a few Super Bowls over the next 10 years, and The colts and skins will probably get a couple shots as well. Works out good for everybody. But I bet the Rams fans wish they had traded Bradford and taken RGIII themselves, no matter the cap consequences.

      • SunPathPaul

        RW is the one I want 4 sure.

        Good point about the Rams. They would have been much better off just getting a high pick in trade for Bradford, and then taking RG3. They would also have traded away Bradford’s contract which is huge.
        Yes they get all these 1st rounders, but Bradford to me seems flat. Good, but flat…

        Then we would have had a wicked interesting division with RG3 and RW playing twice a year…Throw in Kapernick, and we would have the youngest and most unique QB division in football…

        Glad they kept Bradford though. He isn’t nearly as dynamic as RG3…

        • Colin

          They wouldn’t have gotten a high pick for Bradford IMO simply based on his lack of impressive showings and that monster contract. Though they may end having to move on from him if he doesn’t pick it up a little bit.

  8. Belgaron

    The exact opposite of what Shaun King said is true. Wilson would have thrived for any team due to his work ethic, football IQ, and experience running several different offenses in college. RWIII and Kaepermik, on the other hand, benefited greatly from the special treatments they received from their respective teams in running simplified offenses.

    While the overall strength of Seattle’s team helped RW to progress, he still has a chance to outproduce RWIII and Luck over the course of his career in terms of awards, team success, and statistics.

  9. Ben

    All I have to say is that Shawn King is not the sharpest knife in the drawer. Russell Wilson is better than all of those QBs everywhere but in Indy, and even there he might have a bit of an edge on Luck. He would have had better seasons in Minnesota, having Percy Harvin and Adrian Peterson, wow, that’s better than Harvin and Lynch.

  10. Colin

    Not a fan of Florio or PFT but he’s absolutely correct saying Cleveland should’ve gone after RG3- collassal mistake.

    Yes Shaun King, you were a dumb QB when you played, and a dumb analyst. Some things don’t change.

  11. Michael (CLT)

    Stupid is so easy. I’ve been “that guy” so often. King means well. He is being authentic. He is just not using all his faculties. God bless him.

    • Michael

      Do you think he even knows that Joe Thomas exists?

  12. Michael

    Since all of this is taking place in fantasy land anyway, think about how crazy this would have been:

    Colts trade out of #1 spot for roughly the same haul that the Rams got for RG3. In the first they now have the #6 choice to use on Claiborne to solidify that awful secondary. They could double up at CB with their extra 2nd rounder by taking Janoris Jenkins, thus creating one of the best young corner tandems in the NFL. Then at the top of the 3rd round, instead of taking Dwayne Allen, they select Russell Wilson… Holy crap.

    Which would you rather have?

    Andrew Luck
    Dwayne Allen


    Russell Wilson
    Morris Claiborne
    Janoris Jenkins
    2013 1st rounder
    2014 1st rounder

    if only Jim Irsay could get that DeLorean up to 88 MPH…

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