Seahawks seven round mock draft

NC State’s Rob Crisp did an excellent job blocking Vic Beasley

The Seahawks are set to pick once in each round and according to OverTheCap.com they can expect four compensatory picks (one in the fourth round, two in the fifth round, one in the sixth round).

On top of this, I have the Seahawks trading out of the first round to acquire an extra fourth rounder. They subsequently use that pick to trade back into the third round.

Confused? You will be.

Free agency obviously plays a big part. I have the Seahawks signing one of Julius Thomas or Jordan Cameron plus an experienced defensive lineman at a modest price (either a one-year deal for a proven veteran or a prove-it style contract). That leaves the following key needs: Cornerback, Receiver, Guard.

I firmly believe Thomas will be a priority target to provide a much needed second level mismatch.

The Seahawks could cut some of their veteran players (eg Tony McDaniel) for extra cap relief. I’ve taken that into account too. I’m also using ESPN’s Scouts Inc to note where prospects are being projected in each round. I chose them because they’re one of the few outlets grading every prospect in the draft. They updated those grades this week.

Pick #31 — trade down
The Seahawks move back into the early second round
It’ll be harder this year without a Teddy Bridgewater sitting on the board, plus the value in rounds 2-4 is much greater than the late first. However, the 5th year contract option will remain attractive. Here are some recent examples of late first round trades:

— In 2014 Minnesota traded a fourth round pick to Seattle to move from #40 to #32 for Teddy Bridgewater
— In 2013 Minnesota traded third, fourth and seventh round picks to New England to move from #52 to #30 for Cordarelle Patterson
— In 2012 Tampa Bay traded into the 31st spot to take Doug Martin by swapping fourth round picks with Denver.
— In 2011 New Orleans traded a future first rounder and the #56 pick to New England to draft Mark Ingram at #29
— In 2010 Detroit swapped fourth rounders with Minnesota and gave away a 7th rounder to move from #34 to #30 for Jahvid Best
— In 2008 the Jets traded a fourth rounder to jump from #36 to #30 with Green Bay to select Dustin Keller

In the last seven drafts, only 2009’s edition hasn’t seen a trade involving the last four picks in the first round (#29-32). If you want to move out of the first, there’s usually a team willing to work out a deal. Here’s the interesting bit — 50% of the trades above involved moving up for a running back. Doug Martin, Mark Ingram and Jahvid Best aren’t exactly glowing references for a similar deal this year but it is a strong class of running backs.

What if Melvin Gordon or Todd Gurley are still on the board at #31? What if they’re both gone and the #3 running back is generating a lot of interest in the early second round? New Orleans pick twelfth in the second round and are likely to lose Mark Ingram in free agency. Would they be willing to move into the late first for the sake of a fourth rounder? What about San Diego (16th pick in round two) or Atlanta (10th pick in round two)? The Vikings have traded back into the first round in the last two drafts. Could they make it a hat-trick to replace Adrian Peterson?

In this projection the Seahawks do find a trade partner to move down 8-10 spots and acquire an extra fourth rounder (a similar deal to last year, where they moved down eight spots for a fourth).

Second round pick (having traded down from #31)
Marcus Peters (CB, Washington)
It’s hard to judge Peters’ stock. If we see a rush on cornerbacks in the first round he could be swallowed up. We might see two spells where the CB’s go — one each in the first two days of the draft. After that? Not much else. It’s a mediocre class overall. Peters lost some momentum with his combine performance (which wasn’t bad, but wasn’t as good as some of the other big names) but gained some momentum with a humble and honest press conference. He’s fronting up and taking responsibility for what happened at Washington. If he’s taking the same stance in team meetings it’ll ease some of the character concerns. But I suspect some GM’s/HC’s will remain wary of his ability to accept coaching and therefore he could be available in the first half of round two. Why does he fit for Seattle? His wingspan will make up for sub-32 inch arms (31.5 inches) but everything else about his game screams Seahawks. We previously mocked him at #31 for that reason. He plays with a swagger, he’s a press-man corner with a nose for the ball. He can start quickly. And the Seahawks have enough leaders in the secondary to feel confident he’ll know his place.

Second round pick (original selection, #63)
Henry Anderson (DT, Stanford)
Originally projected in the third or fourth round range, Anderson has real momentum after a superb Senior Bowl and a productive combine. He was pretty much unblockable in Mobile and really stood out in the drills. In Indianapolis he was one of the big winners — running a 5.03 with a 1.63 split and excelling in the three-cone and short shuttle. He’s long (6-6, 33.5 inch arms) and big (294lbs). He could be a cheaper alternative to Tony McDaniel, working the three-technique inside. One other thing working in his favor? He’s an excellent run defender. On tape he just doesn’t allow running backs any yards after contact. We know the Seahawks are willing to go a round early if necessary. Scouts Inc projects him at #83 overall, so he could be there in the late second. He probably won’t be there in the third.

Third round pick (SEA trades back into R3)
Tre McBride (WR, Williams & Mary)
I’m a big fan of McBride’s. He’s an alpha male on the field (an underrated aspect for a receiver) but appears mature and humble off it. He competes for the ball in the air with terrific technique and control. Has the short-area burst to win in zone but also enough size to deal with press. He has some kick-return ability and could have an immediate impact there. Excelled at the combine with a 4.41 at 6-0 and 210lbs. His 1.51 ten yard split is elite. Jumped a 38-inch vertical and a 10’2″ broad. He’s an explosive receiver who impressed against the big schools he faced. So will he last into the late third round? I don’t know. I could put him in round two I like him that much. But we also thought Martavis Bryant would go really early after his combine, likewise Donte Moncrief. They both lasted. And McBride is a small school prospect. The Seahawks might have to manipulate this one. This is the pick they acquired after moving down from #31. The Seahawks give up a sixth rounder (acquired in the Percy Harvin trade) to move from the early fourth round back into the third to make sure they get McBride. In the 2014 draft Jacksonville made a similar move to draft Brandon Linder.

Third round pick (original selection, #95)
Ty Sambrailo (G, Colorado State)
I’m not a fan of Sambrailo at tackle. He just doesn’t seem like a natural fit — his footwork is too busy, he doesn’t do a good enough job getting his hands on the edge rusher. When a D-end beats him off the snap he’s pretty much out of it, there’s no counter or recovery (something Jake Fisher is great at by the way). If you move him inside his lack of arm length (33 inches) is less of a problem, his active feet will be better working to the second level or pulling and he can play square without needing to kick-slide and position against the arc. It seems like an ideal fit. Will he last until the late third? Scouts Inc has him graded at #90 overall. I could actually see them drafting him in the late second because he’s that much of a fit. He has the mobility to work in the ZBS, he’s also a good size replacement for James Carpenter.

Fourth round pick (original selection)
Alex Carter (CB, Stanford)
He’s getting pumped up after a superb combine, but for me he’s a classic early day three cornerback. The tape is hit and miss. You watch one game and he’s tight in coverage, does a good job re-routing receivers and has the size to compete with physical wide outs. Yet he didn’t force turnovers at Stanford and had trouble playing the ball, his recovery speed is suspect and he’s more of a project in need technical refinement. Like Richard Sherman, he had trouble at times working against the double-move. He has the size (6-0, 196lbs) and length (32 1/8 inch arms) to live in Seattle’s secondary. He had an excellent 40 inch vertical at the combine. The tools are there. He just needs help. A team like Atlanta or Jacksonville might take him pretty early to try and mimic the Seahawks — but Dan Quinn and Gus Bradley are fully aware Seattle didn’t reach on guys like this. If he’s still there in the fourth he’d be a nice depth pick at corner. Scouts Inc has him as the #117 overall project — essentially the mid-to-late fourth round.

Fourth round pick (compensatory selection)
Darren Waller (WR, Georgia Tech)
He’s a Vincent Jackson clone when you look at his size, length, speed and hand size. Right across the board he’s almost identical to V-Jax. He’s one of two players who didn’t drop a single catchable pass in 2014. Not many 6-6, 238lbs receivers can run a 4.46, jump 37 inches vertically and manage a 10’5″ broad jump. He has a fantastic catching radius with 33 1/4 inch arms. He is a project though. He didn’t run many refined routes at Georgia Tech in the triple option — he was usually used as a decoy or deep route specialist. He’d find little holes in a defense cheating up against the run. He wasn’t asked to do a lot of conventional receiver work. He’s very polite and softly spoken — can he play with an edge? He needs time, but it took Vincent Jackson four years to have a major impact in the league. Waller might never live up to his physical numbers, but you bring him in and see if there’s something to work with and develop. If he works out, you’re getting the kind of big target Seattle has lacked in the Pete Carroll era. They’ve taken receivers in this range before trying to find the bigger guy. Scouts Inc has Waller at #192 — so this could be a ‘take him a round earlier’ type situation.

Fifth round pick (original selection)
Zach Hodges (DE, Harvard)
What a back story. He’s overcome so much to get not only to Harvard, but now the brink of the NFL. He lost his mother in high school, his father as a toddler and his grandfather (father figure) as a teenager. This is a guy you can root for — and therefore the type of guy Seattle loves to take a chance on. He was explosive at the level of college football he played at. He had a 1.61 ten yard split at the combine which is intriguing. He’s 250lbs and 6-2 1/2. He’s not the tallest but he’s long with incredible 34 1/4 inch arms. You know he’s going to give it his best shot. If he fails it won’t be for the lack of trying. He has a good spin move and he’s shown he can loop inside to attack the middle. He will need to improve his hand placement at the next level. There’s no real evidence he can translate speed-to-power well enough to have an immediate impact. The first year could be a tough one — but what do you expect from a late fifth rounder? He’s #179 on Scouts Inc’s list — so basically the kind of range Seattle picks in the fifth.

Fifth round pick (compensatory selection)
Kurtis Drummond (S, Michigan State)
He’s not the fastest (4.65) but he was the leader of the MSU secondary and is extremely mature and passionate about the game. He’s a field general. There’s nothing particularly flashy about his game but he’ll get out there and do a job. The Seahawks need reliable depth in the secondary and that’s what Drummond provides. He did manage a superb 39.5 inch vertical. He’s 6-0 and 208lbs. Just a really solid player within a bad group of safety’s. You don’t draft him expecting him to start for years but he does have range. Scouts Inc ranks him as a seventh rounder.

Fifth round pick (compensatory selection)
Laurence Gibson (T, Virginia Tech)
They’ve shown a tendency to take a punt on tall, long, athletic offensive linemen in this kind of range. Gibson only started one season for the Hokies with mixed results but look at the measurables — 6-6, 305lbs, 35 1/8 inch arms, 5.04 forty, 33.5 inch vertical, 9’5″ broad jump and a 4.56 short shuttle. He’s not Garrett Scott but that’s an impressive combine performance. Scott’s rare heart condition could put his career in jeopardy — it remains to be seen whether he’ll return. If you’re drafting Sambrailo to play guard, you need depth at tackle. Gibson would be a camp project to see if he can make it at the next level as a backup in the short term. He’s rated as an UDFA by Scouts Inc.

Sixth round pick (compensatory selection)
Rakeem Nunez-Roches (DT, Southern Miss)
RNR missed the entire 2013 season with a knee injury but bounced back in 2014 to lead Southern Miss in TFL’s (14). He found a way to impact games. He’s 6-2 and 307lbs with a shade under 33 inch arms. He ran a 5.02 and posted a nice 34 inch vertical. He could sneak into the later rounds as a priority UDFA. At the combine he moved well during drills. You bring him in as a project with a shot to work into the rotation — possibly as early as this year. He plays with an edge. Scouts Inc suggests he’ll go in the seventh round.

Seventh round pick (original selection)
Rob Crisp (T, NC State)
Injuries impacted his college career but he has a ton of potential. He’s long — 6-7, 301lbs and has 34.5 inch arms. He ran a 5.26 and posted a 32.5 inch vertical (same as T.J. Clemmings). Crisp’s short shuttle was in the top-eight for offensive linemen at the combine. Nobody handled Vic Beasley better than this guy in 2014. I’m fascinated by what he can achieve with pro-coaching and a clean bill of health. I wouldn’t even rule out a starting role one day. He’s graded as a priority UDFA.

Overall draft class

Marcus Peters (CB)
Ty Sambrailo (G)
Henry Anderson (DT)
Tre McBride (WR)
Alex Carter (CB)
Darren Waller (WR)
Zach Hodges (DE)
Kurtis Drummond (S)
Laurence Gibson (T)
Rakeem Nunez-Roches (DT)
Rob Crisp (T)

Some of the other players I considered

Steven Nelson (CB, Oregon State)
A really competitive cornerback who plays his ass off. Smaller and lacks length — would be a nickel corner in Seattle. He probably goes a bit too early for the Seahawks to consider (rounds 2-3).

Davis Tull (DE, Tenn-Chatt)
He’s going to convert to the SAM linebacker spot at the next level. Brilliant athlete and a ‘Mr. Football’ type. Again, probably goes a bit too early.

Terry Poole (T, San Diego State)
Ideal guard body and should convert inside. Really liked the way he moved at the combine. Could easily be an alternative to one of the OL prospects listed above.

Josh Shaw (S, USC)
More athletic than Drummond and might be more appealing for that reason. Off-field flags could push him into the UDFA range and perhaps he lands in Seattle as a free agent?

Nick Marshall (QB, Auburn)
If the Seahawks go corner early they might not take one in the round four range. If so, Nick Marshall is a late round option to convert from QB to CB.

Jake Fisher (T, Oregon)
The worst case scenario with Fisher is you end up with a Kyle Long-lite. He doesn’t play with Long’s intensity but he’s a similar athlete. He’s nearly identical to Joel Bitonio. If you stick at #31 he could be an option.

Cameron Erving (C/G, Florida State)
A player who can slot into any interior O-line position. Converted defensive line prospect (like J.R. Sweezy). Could be available after a trade back into round two. Bags of potential.

Nelson Agholor (WR, USC)
Seattle doesn’t care about size if you play with grit, safe hands and compete for the ball. If they bring in a top free agent TE they might go for another leaner wide out at #31 or in round two. Agholor is incredibly athletic, reliable and he’s a great kick returner.

Karlos Williams (RB, Florida State)
I watched two games on Monday and like this guy. 6-0 and 230lbs — decent vision and patience with 4.48 speed. Off-field red flags are a major turn-off. Could last into free agency as a consequence.

Damian Swann (CB, Georgia)
He’s such a playmaker and with the right coaching could be a fine cornerback. He doesn’t have the length to play outside for Seattle — but I’d love to see this coaching staff try to get the best out of this classic ball-hawk. Can he play nickel?

Final thoughts

I didn’t take a running back. If they extend Marshawn Lynch’s contract and keep Robert Turbin and Christine Michael it’s a bit of a redundant pick — even if it’s a class you’d like to dip into. I suspect they’ll add an athletic linebacker for depth either in the later rounds or UDFA — but it won’t be someone from the combine. They might look at return specialists — I haven’t really studied the options there. I’ve picked relatively familiar names or at least players we’ve spent time discussing. We all know the Seahawks will probably draft a couple of unknowns (eg Eric Pinkins, Jimmy Staten). I don’t see any reason to draft a quarterback to develop within this class.

191 Comments

  1. j

    How did Waller do in the agility/explosion aspects? 4.46 is good deep speed, but anecdotally I’ve heard that he lacks those traits.

    I think Peters is not going to happen. We have never drafted a CB with under 32 inch arms. We have never drafted a CB before the fourth round. We seem to believe in Tharold. I expect those trends to continue.

    Thoughts on Trenton Brown? 6’8, 355, 36 inch arms, 10 7/8 inch hands. Slimmed down from 380 for the combine. Had a decent workout for his size. Seems like he could be a hell of a guard, and that length is intriguing at tackle.

    • Rob Staton

      Wingspan is as important as arm length. However much they like Tharold Simon he’s had a lot of injuries. They will add another player at CB.

      Waller had a 1.58 ten yard split which is extremely explosive. I haven’t watched Trenton Brown, although looking at those numbers my first reaction would be it’s too much size.

      • j

        That is a nice ten yard split – moves Waller up for me.

        I’m sure they will add another player at CB, for depth and competition. Using the first pick, however, is where I disagree. For us to go that high at corner it would need to be a special player and I’m not sure that player is in this draft.

        Peters has a good wingspan. What he doesn’t have is 32 inch arms. What we have never done is – have a corner with sub 32 inch arms on our roster. (Besides the inaugural season).

        Either one isn’t a killer. If Peters had had a Patrick Peterson like combine, it might have been different. But I see a non-special athlete at corner, with sub 32 inch arms. That is a no for me.

        re: Brown, tested similar to Carpenter, and has similar height as Breno. I wouldn’t dismiss it out of hand

    • Ho Lee Chit

      Offensive guards in a ZBS have to be able to move. They pull and block at the second level a lot. Hence, they tend to be a little undersized for the position.

      • bobbyk

        But then you get a big fat slob like James Carpenter and everything gets confusing with what they want at left guard. He rarely decleats anyone and he’s slower than a turtle.

  2. bobbyk

    Definitely a fun read but free agency is going to tell us so much more. I watched some Jordan Cameron highlights last night and was definitely impressed. I didn’t realize how soft his hands were. I know he’s a bit of a step down from J. Thomas (at least that and the concussions will make him cheaper – plus, it’s not like JT has been an ironman), but I like the idea of a guy who seems to be a better teammate (Cameron over Thomas). Neither are great blockers, but you can tell that at least Cameron puts more into it.

    If we snag Waller in the 4th, I’ll be jacked. That’ll almost make the whole draft for me, even if we don’t see him much on the field until 2016. Essentially, in that scenario, we would have exactly traded Tate for Waller.

  3. Sam Jaffe

    What about the sixth round pick from the Jets for Percy Harvin?

    • Rob Staton

      As noted in the piece, it was used to trade back into round three to select Tre McBride.

      • Hard Cider

        Understand the argument that you made Rob for Turbin, Michaels and Lynch and staying ‘pat’ at Running Back. But if Todd Gurley is there at pick 31, I think that’s the only way the Hawks don’t trade out of the first round. Because Gurley wouldn’t play much in 2015, the extra 5th year you get on a first-round pick and the depth you highlighted at the RB position, make this an attractive fit. Lynch is not going to play forever and I’m not wowed by Turbo or CM.

        Otherwise, I can see them trading the first pick and I love the kid from W&M. Don’t see Peters from Washington being available except maybe at 1-31 and I don’t think he has first round value for the Seahawks. Trade the pick and build depth. Maybe grab an older free agent CB on the cheap.

        Good Stuff!!

    • David Ess

      i think thats in there. we traded a 6th rounder for burley right before the season started too

    • Ho Lee Chit

      My guess is the Jets renegotiate a lower cap number with Harvin and keep him For a two round upgrade of picks they get a guy they will not find in this draft. We then get a fourth for Harvin.

      • bobbyk

        I hope so, too. It’d be awesome to get that two round upgrade. You still have a somewhat realistic chance to get a solid contributor early in the fourth, whereas you’re more looking at guys you may develop and won’t play much their rookie years in the 6th. Here’s to hoping!

      • Rob Staton

        Getting a 4th for Harvin will be huge for Seattle.

  4. Steven

    I do love this draft. I’d go one step further… if Gurley is available when the Patriots pick, I’d trade my 1st next year and a 3rd or 4th this year. Patriots love to add picks and this is essentially using your 1st pick next year to get a stud RB who needs to red shirt or at least start slow.

  5. bobbyk

    I have read quite a few people who have said that they’d like us to go offense early and often, which I don’t necessarily disagree with. However, if people want impact for 2015 and this “window” we hear about so often, then they should be rooting for offensive free agent pick-ups (Cameron and perhaps an offensive lineman like Boling) and the drafting of early defensive players. On average, rookies make more of an impact earlier in their careers defense than do offensive players as so much more timing and things of that nature are needed on offense that takes more experience to get (although the rookie WRs of last year are throwing a monkey wrench into conventional thinking).

    I’m not advocating this in the least, but an Iupati would fit in so well with this team because he/Okung would provide a spot we could run Lynch into every time we need a short yardage conversion. Right now we simply don’t have an OL combo of two players who can be trusted to push forward for a yard or two when it’s needed. In fact, we suck at that so bad, we often times spead out and throw because we know our OL sucks so badly at manning (not Eli) up and winning a man-war for a yard. This is a bit demoralizing for me being a fan because football is a game about being tough and our OL is anything but strong when asking them to make a push to gain us a yard on 3rd and 1 with any consistency.

    I’ll be so happy when marshmallow Carpenter signs on the dotted line for someone else.

  6. David

    i am thinking i like these picks Rob.

    I like the peters pick. because before he was let go by the team he was considered a top-15 pick wasnt he? and maybe in some circles he still is.

    As i read more and more who you mocked us too i couldnt help but hope you’d have a big target coming our way. and you did! haha i liked the Waller pick and admit i havent heard much about McBride. but lets move waller to a different spot in the draft so we avoid the “4th round WR bust” label k? kidding of course.

    I was hoping we’d get some depth on both sides of the line and have to admit i am content with these selections.

    One thing id like to bring up though. IF we have to cut someone i’d prefer it be someone on Offense (i.e Zach Miller) if we are to sign a J. Thomas.

    I was also curious about that other big WR that people kind of talked about during the season. Blakenly or something like that from Duke. whatever happened to him?

    thanks Rob place looks clean. keep up the good work.

  7. Lenny James

    Rob,

    Pretty good mock. Love Peters in Rd2. Just curious, at what point are we going to address PR/KR. I felt we left waaay to many yards on the field . It would be nice if the offense didn’t have to start at the 19 yd line after ever kickoff and at the 25 after every punt.

    • Rob Staton

      Tre McBride returned kicks for William & Mary.

      • CHawk Talker Eric

        I reviewd the PR/KR stats of several WR prospects – Tyler Lockette, McBride, Dorsett and Agholor.

        McBride had the second best KR avg @23yds/return (Lockette was tops with 28.5yds per). He also had the 2nd most attemps @56.

        PR stats weren’t as good – 11yds/return avg (Lockette – 15.3yds per; Agholor – 14.6yds per). Unfortunately, he didn’t have any TDs.

        At any rate, he would be an upgrade on ST to anyone currently on roster.

      • OZ

        And did a good job!

      • OZ

        And did a good job. I like his size for a return man.

        • OZ

          McBride that is.

      • Bill Bobaggins

        I’d also add Ty Montgomery from Stanford to the KR/PR list. He’ll be there in the late rounds.

  8. Attyla the Hawk

    Pretty kick ass group.

    Couple picks I think may be overvalued:

    Henry Anderson. Seems like the last few years, we’ve overvalued the Trent Murphy/Brent Urban types. Mostly on the basis of length considerations. Seattle has passed on these kinds of guys before. Anderson has that kind of feel.

    Waller. I don’t see him as a 4th round reach here. If we are interested, I’d expect him no earlier than 5th round. The WR group is just so deep — he should be pushed way back. Seattle will pick a round early for the right guys. But with this class, even the 4th seems a real stretch.

    Probably need to reserve a couple picks for non combine invitees. Seems Seattle picks at least 2 guys who didn’t get invited.

    • Rob Staton

      Trent Murphy was the #47 pick last year. I was never a fan, but he went 20 spots higher than I’m projecting Anderson here. Urban I really liked — but clearly the injury issues were pretty serious.

      • Turp

        Worth mentioning that Waller in this mock would essentially be a 5th rounder anyway, since it’s 4th round comp pick.

        • peter

          In my eye the WR class is deep but in exceedingly short supply of a Waller. There are a few bigger WR’s that may go higher then him perhaps, Perriman/Coates/Strong/Parker and they are all pushing he limits as to what could be called a “bigger WR.” The real depth in this class to me is the 6′ slighter WR that you then decide is explosion more important then say steady production.

          I wouldn’t like it but I would not be terribly surprised to see Waller go to us in the 3rd round if the FO got an inkling that he would go in the early 4th. Pete Carrol has pushed it to the back burner for what ever reason but has always had an affinity for WR’s who can box out and high point. Before people bring up Matthews I would say “how about Matthews aannnddd Waller?”

          • Turp

            I could get behind Waller in the 3rd. Not just for the size/speed combo, but that catch rate…

        • goatweed

          Could we just call him a 5th round WR since we know the history of 4th round WR picks?

        • OZ

          They may have to take Waller at the end of the 3rd, or early forth.

  9. Matt

    This would be a major haul! There’s some slight differences I wouldn’t mind but would be extremely happy with what you’ve projected Rob.

    • Turp

      I agree, awesome mock Rob. I have no problems with going round 8 for a RB, and I love the holes this would fill at CB, WR, O-line, and Henry Anderson would be a fun dline pick.

  10. Dawgma

    Couple thoughts.

    First, I’m not buying Peters. Whatever else may be true, he basically got kicked off the team for refusing to take coaching. Now, that’s probably because the new regime was playing it softer, but still – the strength of the LoB as unit is taking the coaching input like a religion and spitting g out mechanically amazing products. It’s got to make th e nervous that he’s not the physical ideal AND he’s on the record basically telling his coaches to go pass up a rope when he doesn’t like what he hears.

    Also curious what you think about Conley out of Georgia. I expected him to be a combine warrior, but after looking into it he feels Seahawky. Explosive, did a good job of making the most of limited opportunities, very solid academics and apparently popular with teammates and fans for his work ethic and personality.

    • Rob Staton

      Conley is very raw and needs technical refinement. Struggled to run the correct routes at times, has an awkward catching position too. Makes life difficult for himself. But he also makes plays. I think he’ll be over drafted.

      As for Peters — in fairness he did have 31.5 inch arms. If his wingspan is as advertised he will match the physical ideal and the playing style.

  11. CharlieTheUnicorn

    1st
    Phillip Dorsett, WR, Miami
    Height: 5-10. Weight: 183. 40 Time: 4.33. Projected Round (2015) 1-2.

    2nd
    Jeremiah Poutasi, G, Utah
    Height: 6-6. Weight: 330. 40 Time: 5.32. Projected Round (2014): 2-3.

    3rd
    Byron Jones, S/CB, Connecticut (Combine Star)
    Height: 6-1. Weight: 199. Projected 40 Time: 4.55. Projected Round (2015): 3-4.

    4th (1)
    Nick Boyle, TE, Delaware (Stand out at All star Game)/ (+Combine) Note: Blocking TE.
    Height: 6-5. Weight: 273. 40 Time: 5.04. Projected Round (2015): 3-5.

    4th (2)
    Lynden Trail, 3-4OLB, Norfolk State (Character issues) (TE/DE)
    Height: 6-7. Weight: 269. 40 Time: 4.91. Projected Round (2015): 4-6.

    4th (3)
    David Cobb, RB, Minnesota
    Height: 5-11. Weight: 229. 40 Time: 4.81. Projected Round (2015): 5-7.

    5th (1)
    Ali Marpet, C/G, Hobart (Combine Standout)
    Height: 6’4″. Weight: 307. 40 Time: 4.98. Projected Round (2015): 3-5

    5th (2)
    Nick Marshall, QB/CB, Auburn
    Height: 6-1. Weight: 207. 40 Time: 4.54. Projected Round (2015) 4-7.

    6th
    Kasen Williams, WR, Washington
    Height: 6-2. Weight: 216. Projected 40 Time: 4.55. Projected Round (2014): 5-FA.

    7th (1)
    Josh Harvey-Clemons*, S, Louisville (Character issues)
    Height: 6-5. Weight: 212. Projected 40 Time: 4.65. Projected Round (2015): 5-7.

    7th (2)
    Brian Mihalik, DE/DT, Boston College
    Height: 6-9. Weight: 288. Projected 40 Time: 4.96. Projected Round (2015): 6-FA.

    • CharlieTheUnicorn

      Mock with the projected comp picks and pick(s) visa trade.

      • Greg haugsven

        Damn Charles, how long did it take you to type up that comment?…lol

        • CharlieTheUnicorn

          it doesn’t take long actually. you do some homework… checkout some guys before the last season is over. Then kick it into high gear around combine time. I write on another sportsblog, so it was handy.

          • Greg haugsven

            Did Cobb actually run that slow? I’ve seen some old ladies power walk faster than that.

          • rowdy

            You post on fieldgulls and spicked kool aid to right? I like the idea of williams but think he would be a udfa or 7th rounder at best. Where did you find trail and do you have any tape on him?

            • CharlieTheUnicorn

              Walterfootball had a write up about him early on in the draft process. I’ve not seen any tape on Trail, but I took a look at nfldraftscout and another site scouting site, which is escaping me at this time. The write ups looked good, but there were legit off the field issues, which would have to be fleshed out. If he was purely on-the-field, he would be a high 2nd rounder from what I have found. Value, 4th or 5th round would be outstanding for a pass rushing specialist type.
              I could see them making him a TE, he has excellent size… this was brought up in one scouting review.

              Cobb had a sort of poor 40 at the combine, but I’m sure he will be in the 4.6 range for the pro-day…. other than the 40, he was solid imo.

              • CharlieTheUnicorn

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iKq5cUdIro

                Lynden Trail video from 2013, posted in 2014

                • rowdy

                  Thanks man! That guy is a hitter, I would keep him at DE. I need to look up the off field problems because he looks like a man among boys.

    • Eric

      I was wondering if Kasen Williams might get a look as a FA. Seems like he could be a Kearse redux.

      • Bruce M.

        When healthy, Kasen is a beasting kind of receiver–far tougher to bring down than Kearse, high points the ball, ferocious competitor.

        • Curt

          Agree, I remember watching his early/healthy days and was excited for UW expecting growth. Instead a steady decline and wondering too if it’s not better to grab the UDFA that we would like with our last pick. He showed so much promise early on and like Kearse he could reach his potential with our coaching. JMO

        • OZ

          A doesn’t cradle catch as much.

      • CharlieTheUnicorn

        I originally thought that as well, but I think someone will take a swing in the 6th or 7th, why not Seattle.

        • Volume 12

          Pretty good Charlie. OL Jeremiah Poutasi and DL Brian Mihalik are 2 guys I’ve payed attention to over the course of the 2014 CFB season.

        • rowdy

          Sarks system ruined him it looks like. He started off great then injuries happened but I think his biggest problem was miles, that guy is a horrible qb. He should preform great at his pro day.

    • matt509

      I think Marpet and Jones go higher than that. Jones could be a first rounder, highly doubt he lasts to the 3rd. Marpet may not but I think he’s more of a 3rd round pick. I’m a huge fan of him.

      I like the Kasen Williams pick. It kinda reminds me of Jermaine Kearse. I completely forgot about him also. I really hope we pick him up.

  12. Ben

    I’d prefer this draft if we swapped Anderson for Jay Ajayi.

    • Ben

      Otherwise really nice, I like all of these players.

      (sorry this came in two parts, I pressed post too early)

  13. Greg haugsven

    Hopefully AJ will have interest in coming to Seattle, draft some receivers and let them develop. I’m torn on Cameron vs Thomas
    We know Thomas will cost a lot, but the value could be with Cameron. Maybe the Hawks want neither and they think Willson will take off in year three. Can’t wait for next Tuesday.

    • Ho Lee Chit

      Denver is clearing $4 million of cap from Peyton Mannings contract so they can keep Thomas.

      • Greg haugsven

        That could be good. Maybe Denver resigning Thomas can save us from making a mistake.

        • SunPathPaul

          I hope Julius isn’t what we go after. I would rather have Andre Johnson for 2 years! 2 SB wins!

      • Rob Staton

        I think that $4m saving is for elsewhere to be honest. All suggestions seem to be… bridges burned with JT.

  14. line_hawk

    Peters is a luxury at this point. As seen in super bowl, they can manage with simon if they have a decent pass rush. It’s only when Avril went out that the defense gave in. I am also conflicted on why they paid KJ 6m. He is good but thats a lot of dough for WLB. His specialty is guarding TE but he got repeatedly burnt by Gronk. It’s been proved time in and time out over multiple seasons that the Achilles hill of this defense is its pass rush. That’s what they need to invest in my opinion if they go defense.

    If they pick anywhere in the thirties/early forties, I would rather have a WR/RB if there is one they like on the board. This team is thin at CB, however it’s bare at the skill positions on offense. Even if they add JT in free agency (and that’s an if), there is are huge depth issues there.

    At this stage, CM can be considered a bust. Who has faith in turbin filling in if Lynch starts slowing down?

    Same with WR. There is no depth, infant the depth guys are playing no 1/2. They really miss Golden Tate. Argh!

    • bobbyk

      But they also had Maxwell, in addition to Simon, in the Super Bowl. Now it’s down to Sherm and the clown crew at CB and Simon seems to be the leading clown. That’s scary.

      I agree on the need for improved pass rush though. As we saw last year all too often, having Bennett and Avril wasn’t enough and the pass “rush” was nonexistent for too long of stretches at a time. They need a third pass rusher. If it’s a DE, then Bennett can rush more from the three. Ideally, we get a three and Bennett/Avril can come from the outside. Maybe that pass rusher will be Hill. However, Hill has been repeatedly injured his first two years. He was hurt two different times last year where he missed significant time (including the final time he went on IR). That’s not a good pattern, nor it is responsible to expect him to be the interior pass rushing force for 16 games next year that he was for the final month+ of this past season.

    • CharlieTheUnicorn

      Peters is going to go mid 1st round now. The class is too thin and there is not much on the FA market (yet)

    • Madmark

      They gave LJ Wright the money cause he can play all the LB positions but that is a problem he can only play one position at a time.

    • Rob Staton

      “As seen in super bowl, they can manage with simon…”

      That’s not how I saw it to be honest…

      • Drew

        In all fairness to Simon…during the season before he dislocated his shoulder he was playing well. After he dislocated his shoulder is whne he started getting torched. I still have high hopes for him, hoping he makes the jump in year 3 just like Max did.

        • peter

          Potatoe/pohtahtow.

          Honestly I think there could be cause for concern with Simon’s injuries plus there is a chance that not all who enter DB U graduate as it were to what we would like. That said he did have a shoulder injury, he’s not built for playing the quick slot guys nor is Sherman and the third year is a great time to really evaluate where he’s out. That said if he needs surgery let’s have the FO drive him down to Swedish hospital now as opposed to waiting for say june or what have you.

          My issue is with the Nickel Corner slot. Lane’s is going to have to start the year on PUP or IR designated to return watching Lane go down was devastating and they had so little faith/crappy foresight but whatever it was I’m not totally sure why Burley wasn’t dressed for the SB. Injury? He battled to be sure through out the year but I feel like there is a pretty good drop off between Lane and Burley. Maybe there is not but theyre still going to need a backup for that spot to start the season and maybe someone who can take it over completely.

          As for Peter’s I get the rational behind the pick. Need/value/etc. But Seattle has “needed,” a defensive backfield since the day Pete Carrol showed up and how did he solve that? Overlooked draft prospects, ex NFL burnouts, and a fourth rounder who never played.

          I get the need may be there but what makes losing Maxwell this time around so insistent that now is the time to break from tradition and take a CB in the first? The team unlike then would still be sporting Sherm and Kam to start the year, waiting on Earl, and if Simon was going to have trouble without the free safety support a guy like Peters or Collins even would still have trouble ramping up their game to the NFL level. Or the Seahawks do what they have done and look for Carter later, perhaps break tradition and go after Swann, or look to Rowe who could play outside or Nickel.

          I can’t believe I’m saying this but I would rather have Cameron Erving with that first pick, a super versatile olinemen and/or Devin Smith something dynamic in the WR corps then a CB. Peter’s looks good to me but not great and my perspective is a lot of CB’s in college get hyped because of splash plays but that doesn’t translate as well in the pros. He didn’t have impressive combine numbers in any one department and had stats that were in the ball park of guys the team has picked in way later rounds. I kow the combine isn’t everything but it is something. My body of research basically starts and stops with the LOB all but Earl overlooked undervalued DB’s and it’s the best secondary in the league.

          • Curt

            Peter: “I can’t believe I’m saying this but I would rather have Cameron Erving with that first pick, a super versatile O line and/or Devin Smith something dynamic in the WR corps then a CB. ”

            Totally agree Peter, like the mock as a whole but disappointed with our first selection taking a corner.

            Great job as usual Rob!

            • Curt

              Oh forgot to add…. I really think they NEED to protect Wilson better. He is our franchise and if he got injured I don’t see going very far. Tough kid BUT just like in the Super Bowl weird things can and do happen.
              Get him better protection (O line) and a couple more weapons so he doesn’t have to sit back there for 8 seconds.

              • Jake

                I agree with you Curt, Peters just doesn’t seem special and he comes with some baggage. If the baggage is ok, I’d rather roll the dice on DGB or Gurley’s knee. Personally, my two favorite linemen in this draft are Erving and Flowers. Erving could plug in at LG and be groomed to take over for Unger eventually. Flowers could plug in at LG and be tested out at LT to see if he could reasonably replace Okung eventually.

                • Drew

                  Honestly, after seeing DGBs measurables at the combine, I wouldn’t touch him before the 4th round. Much better options without the risk. He might have potential, but he’s not an explosive athlete, he’s just tall with some speed, short arms, small hands and doesn’t jump very high.

              • Volume 12

                What back-up QB could get a team to a SB? That’s why Seattle isn’t so dependent on the passing game, As for better protection so he wouldn’t have to sit back there for 8 seconds? That’s a damn impressive O-line in my book.

  15. Mark

    The day after I would be very happy with this draft. Rakeem is the only player you selected that is not on my watch list.

  16. Ben2

    It sounds like sacrilege but I feel we have to be more flexible with Sherm – I grt the idea of play like you practice but #1 cb $$ means you tail #1 WR

    • bobbyk

      Ultimately, I think Sherm would like it, too. Then he could get more passes thrown his way.

    • peter

      Why? Schematically that’s pretty foolish. Pete Carrol has created this ridiculously simple defense for all to copy and et almost no one can pull it off. Why would they change the scheme to dogmatically chase down the “number one” receiver when in not doing so they are the best defense in the league.

      • bobbyk

        Then why did the Hawks change in the Cowboys game when Sherman shadowed Dez all the time at the end? It seems foolish in some instances to have the crappy WR line up over Sherman and waste him on a guy they won’t want to throw to anyway.

        • Ben2

          Exactly. The offense can dictate the wr matchups to Their advantage….and if the quality of our #2 CB goes down with the loss of Maxi then being flexible with Sherm might be a way to ameliorate this loss

          • peter

            Well first and last this is the Scheme regardless of Sherman that Carrol has been working on for his whole life. With proven results wherever he ha worked it from the 49er’s to us.

            Why did the Sherman follow Dez in a close game where we had a chance to come back on as long as Dez and ROmo didn’t do any more damage? Really. I’m sure there have been plenty of times where Sherman runs down the “number one receiver,” in close games that I don’t notice because it is a scheme wrinkle. If what the two of you are saying and I’ve been basically waiting for teams to do this all the time….just trot out your number one receiver and trot them out against our number two and let Sherman shut down his half of the field while the other guy puts up like 3 TD’s on 12 catches for 140 yards.

            That doesn’t happen for two super easy reasons. Kam Chancellor and Earl Thomas. Offenses can’t dictate anything against Seattle currently because the defense dictates the game to them. If that weren’t the case how would they be the best defense in the league two years running?

            Also I’m always confused by the fascination of number one receivers and number one CB’s. It’s so subjective, some say it’s the most productive receiver on a team, some say it’s an unknown yet identifiable trait ala Marshall/Megatron/Bryant….what this wise ass says is he can’t remember the last time a team had a real deal game breaking Number ONE receiver who won a SB or in super recent years made any real noise in the playoffs. Not us, not when the ravens one, Denver had number one everything that pertains to catching a ball and got handled in the SB. The patriots had Moss and I’m sure won a ton of people a ton of office pools in fantasy football but oen the superbowl most recently with ex college qb’s and healthy every four games amendola. Hell even Green bay has great recievers and I’m positive they all think they are the jams but Aaron Rodgers is making those guys not the other way around.

            So if Sherman is going to cover the best receiver in the waning minutes of a game which is no different then switching personal from run to pass defense to blitz the whole defense should change all game and have Earl and Kam running around aimlessly trying to figure out who’s getting separation? I dont’ think so.

            • Volume 12

              Great post Peter. Your not a wise ass at all, because I’m of the same opinion.

              These ‘big,’ game breaking, number one receivers are like a sports car. They look nice and are super flashy, but they don’t get you anywhere in the long run.

              Also, leave Sherm on an island. If opposing QBs don’t want to throw to his side it just means they have to throw across their body and be extremely accurate. Pin-point, if you will.

        • Curt

          I think that was the exception to the rule Bobby. I think Sherm would be more than happy to shadow the #1 but I think the idea is to take away his side of the field and make the other team have 1/2 of the field to play with. Totally agree on more D line help even if it’s for attrition (injury) help only. The SB highlighted the worst possible scenario that could happen to us when Avril went out with the concussion.

          • Jake

            Sherm respected BB and Maxwell too much to switch sides. He has done it on occasion, but I think the idea is that him staying on the left allows the zones to cheat a little away from him and tighten on the more likely target. It actually helps more to put him on a weaker receiver because it forces the offense to go away and allows the other 10 defenders to play on a reduced field.

            • Drew

              Exactly. It forces the offense to play 10 on 10 on a condensed field.

  17. CC

    I like the way your mock looks – I think the break out of position seems like a good mix. I like Agholor, Poole and Erving a lot – and would be fine if somehow any of those guys are swapped out in your mock.

    I agree with you that if Peters falls, the Seahawks have to look at him – though I understand some of the concerns. Drafting a WR/KR/PR is a need and whether it is McBride or Agholor or Dorsett.

    G and T and building up some depth would be good too.

    Of course, if we sign Andre J, we may not draft 2 WRs – and I’m okay with too.

  18. Jon O

    Hey Rob, was wondering if you would be covering DT Ray Drew out of Georgia? Much like one of your favorites (Robert Crisp) he was a highly rated recruit who never fully reached his potential in college. Drew was recruited as a lanky edge rusher who put on weight but maintained his athleticism. He played DE in their 3-4 but would project inside as a 3-tech in the NFL. I was disappointed he wasn’t invited to the combine and am excited to see his pro day #’s. He should weigh in close to 300 lbs and crack a forty right around 5 flat if not slightly under.

    • Volume 12

      I’m a fan of Ray Drew myself Jon. Good eye,

    • Rob Staton

      I’ll take a look at him.

    • Von

      Jon

      I live in Atlanta and he was on the radio last week discussing his pro day. He said his weight is at 265 and he feels like an edge player. I’ve watched his whole career, and like you, think he would be a great Seahawk. Looking forward to his pro day.

  19. GeoffU

    Impossible to tell, but I can’t help wondering what players Schneider’s thinking he can’t leave the draft without.

  20. peter

    Excellent mock! I’m still a little hesitant on Peter’s but understand where the axis meets in regards to both Mawell being gone Lane out and Simon being a question mark for next season and beyond.

    Do you think Carter projects as a nickel? I feel like and this is just a hunch and nothing more that Nickel will be a huge priority for them next year.

    • Rob Staton

      I think he’s a bit stiff to play nickel. I’d look at the veteran options there if I wasn’t confident in getting a Steven Nelson in the draft.

    • OZ

      I like Craig Mager at nickle. 5’11″/4.4-40/38″vert./10’10″broad/4.07shuttle/6.08 3-cone/17bench. Played well in the east west shrine game.

      • OZ

        I also like Josh Shaw and Julian Wilson.

        • Volume 12

          Craig Mager is a nice option. A real sleeper. Oklahoma’s Julian Wilson IMO falls into the same boat as Alex Carter. Too stiff.

  21. Donald

    So many good prospects, but out of the 11 picks in the draft, how many have a relaistic chance of replacing someone from last years roster?

    How many rookies made the team last year, and how many were let go.?

    I understand aquiring many picks for depth and competition, but I would have fewer higher picks than many midround picks that probably won’t make the final roster.

    First, sign Julius Thomas, and you have your TE. Use Chris Matthews as the tall starting WR.

    I would like to see fewer and higher 2nd and 3rd and 4th rd picks. Perhaps trade down a little and still pick up a quality OL sarter, like Fisher or Erving to replace Carpenter.

    Then our own 2nd rd pick for WR like Agolor or Mcbride for speed and kick / punt returns.

    Trade up for an early 3rd for Henry Anderson DT.

    Use our 3rd plus other picks and move up and get Damian Swann CB or Steven Nelson CB or best CB available. They will backup the nickel starter Burley.

    These better players can actually play in the 1st year.

    • j

      Its missing the point. 11 picks helps with depth and competition. But that is incidental to the true value of having so many picks – the ability to take risks. We like to focus on what a player can do, rather than what he can’t. That doesn’t work unless you have 10+ picks. Because if you only have six-seven picks – you need to have a 100% success rate. You need every pick to be a contributing player. You can’t take a guy who has excellent speed but needs work on routes. Or who has great length but needs to up his technique.

      With eleven picks, you can afford to fail. And that failure is crucial to our philosophy. If you hit on every pick in the draft you are doing it wrong.

      • Donald

        Thanks J,

        I understand and agree partially with your point.

        I am thinking using your risks for late rounds, but focus on getting fewer guys that have higher quality talent. No need to sacrifice higher (more sure) picks for more later picks and hope one of them surprises us. That is too much of a gamble.

        On the other hand, I can’t argue with the track record, but these last couple of years have not been so lucky.

      • GeoffU

        This is a good way of looking at things. However, I disagree with your numbers. With 7 picks you’d be lucky if 1/4 of them contribute. The higher up you pick your odds typically increase, though I think it is marginal once you get out of the second round. 1-15 or 1-20 is probably where you find the most success (about 50%), the elite players. After that I believe it’s a curve that levels off to around 10% success in the 2nd or 3rd round, which is why I agree, more picks are important. Your odds increase of making a hit.

        Each draft much be taken on its own merit, of course, and if there is good value in rounds 3-4 this year (as Rob states below) then you want as many picks in that area as you can get.

    • Donald

      By the way, thanks Robb for all of your work on this, I always look forward to reading about your insights on the draft.

      I like your pick on Alex carter in the 4th, and he would be a great choice. I like Darren Waller in the 5th, but if they are as good as you say, I fear they will be long gone by then. This reminds me of last year when everyone was talking about picking james Jawaun OL from Tennessee in the second, but everyone liked him and he was taken #19 in the 1st. Cable said afterward he was going for an OL in the second but somebody reached and got him in the 1st.

      If they are considered “good” in the draft, they wont last long. You can’t count on any good players lasting past the 3rd rd.

      • Attyla the Hawk

        That’s not entirely true.

        James, by the combine was picking up steam. After pro days, he was pretty consistently mocked in the 25-45 range. I’ve alluded to it before, but there are always a handful of players slotted in that range that end up moving up at the expense of other 1st rounder that drop down.

        There was always the risk that James would go higher. Last year, we saw Pryor, James, Marcus Smith, Deone Bucannon, Bradley Roby go in the first. These were all late first to mid 2nd round projections. Seeing talents like Hageman, Tuitt, Kouandjio, Ealy, and Robinson drop.

        The reality is, there are always good players in the 3rd/4th rounds. That’s depth in the draft. Not everyone is in the market for a particular player’s talents. Needs play a part. Relative strength elsewhere does too. This year, OL depth is very deep. It’s also a position that has a 3 year run on really quality depth. Many teams have already recently loaded up on OL talent. The number of suitors for OL players at the top of the draft is lower today than the last two years.

        It’s a very good year to cull the 3rd through 6th rounds for OL talent. Plenty of year 2 starters should come from this group. If Seattle can get 2 prospects from this range — I’d expect at least one of them to be a starter worth considering a resign. Seattle can fill out our depth in year one with a couple picks here.

        Gibson is one of the mid round guys I have my eye on. I also like Mitch Morse a bit earlier. Later you have Gallik at OC, Jarvis Harrison at OG, BJ Finney and Donovan Smith in the late 3rd/mid 4th range. Poutasi/Corey Robinson in the 4th/5th.

        Lots of good players. And we should expect to see a player not even in the combine as a strong potential in the 6th/7th. Seattle likes to get non combine invitees. Garrett Scott was not an invitee. Seymour and Bowie were not in 2013. Sweezy was in 2012, but as a DT.

        When it comes to late round OL talent, we’ve beaten the pro day non invitee bush almost exclusively.

    • Rob Staton

      There’s a lot of value in rounds 3-4 this year.

  22. Justin

    I’d be very happy with this draft. The only two players I would be bummed to miss out on are Jake Fisher, Karlos Williams and Nelson Agholor. But I’m not sure who I would remove from your list to take one of those players. Very excited to see what McBride can do. Seems like a perfect fit for the Seahawks. Same with Hodges.

  23. Cysco

    I don’t enough about Tramon Williams to have an opinion on him potentially replacing Maxwell. Anyone else?

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/03/05/report-seahawks-expected-to-pursue-tramon-williams/

    • Rob Staton

      Experienced. Could be the kind of veteran stop gap we’ve talked about.

    • Ho Lee Chit

      Try this

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asF8rL7A4S8

    • Attyla the Hawk

      Awful choice.

      First, he’s already turned down a 2y/8m deal in GB. He’s looking for more. Assume a 5m/year deal.

      Second, he will offset a possible 3rd round comp pick in 2016 for losing Maxwell. If we’re talking about getting a veteran stop gap, then get one that won’t cost a draft choice.

      Tramon isn’t of sufficient quality to merit in essence trading a 3rd round pick for. Which is exactly what we would be doing if we sign him.

      If Schneider does this move, I’m going to be highly critical of it. From both a dollars and draft pick cost it’s just plain stupid. I’d rather we add 3m per year and make a run at resigning Maxwell to be honest at 8m/year which shouldn’t happen either. Get a cap casualty cut. Wait to see if Johnathan Joseph/Leon Hall get cut in Houston/Cincy.

      • Turp

        Good way of looking at it Attyla. The only counter I would make is that not signing Tramon for a comp pick we’d get in 2016 doesn’t help us in 2015.

        Also I think his price will go down as other CB hit the market. Tramon does not have age on his side.

        • Attyla the Hawk

          It’s worth considering, that if we do sign Tramon, it could indicate that Seattle isn’t interested in signing Carpenter. Allowing Tramon to cancel Carpenter’s potential comp selection. While still retaining a possible 3rd round comp for Maxwell.

          Seattle is a team that wants to have a lot of picks. And comp picks are part of the equation of other teams that cherish lots of picks. These teams generally jump all over cap casualty cuts because they don’t cost comp picks. Seattle’s roster is now mature with multiple defections per year kind of expected.

          There is the ‘help us now’ component. But there is no getting around the fact that these signings are at the cost of draft picks. Seattle, I would expect, is going to enjoy the bounty of picks they have in 2015 and it should be a component in our UFA strategy going forward.

  24. Volume 12

    Great mock Rob. Absolutely love Harvard DE-LEO Zach Hodges. As I said before, this guy has ‘Seahawk’ written all over him.

    Glad to see I’m not the only fan of Colorado St O-lineman Ty Sambrailo on here.

    Just nit-picking, I can see the enticement in DT Henry Anderson, but not personally a fan. I know you could care less. Also I do like S Kurtis Drummond, but I like Adrian Amos, and wonder if the Penn St pipeline will continue. He’s more versatile, and may have more upside?

    Still not convinced that Seattle will take a corner before the 4th round. If they do great and I hope it is CB Marcus Peters. He does seem like a natural fit.

    HB Karlos Williams is very interesting. Will certainly take another look at this guy. We know he’s a fantastic athlete. Josh Robinson is another back I could see them interested in. His back-story and personality are very ‘Seahawky.’

    Georgia Tech WR Darren Waller just seems so much like that athletic/upside type of receiver we see Seattle take in the mid rounds every year. Although I could see Waller going in the 3rd, just based on his ridiculous and unique size.

    • Rob Staton

      “I know you could care less”

      Every opinion valued man — thanks for sharing your thoughts.

      • Volume 12

        I just meant that I know one man’s opinion of say Henry Anderson isn’t going to change yours.

        Rob, IDK if I’ve ever told you this, but your site has become a personal addiction of mine, and like everyone else has said I value your opinion much more than the Todd McShay’s and Mel Kiper’s of the world. They don’t seem to factor in arm length/wingspan or fits in the locker room, the emphasis Seattle puts on if a prospect falls under our very own made up phrase, is he ‘Seahawky’ or not? Little things like that. You give people like me a place to share my thoughts, ideas, frustrations, ‘what ifs.’ So for that, I thank you my man.

        Hoping that you do another mock after FA has died down some and then another sometime in April when we’ll know what prospects Seattle has brought into the VMAC as the draft gets closer.

        • Rob Staton

          Thanks man. Really appreciate your dedication to the site in the comments section as a valued contributor.

          • Volume 12

            Your so welcome. And thank you,

    • OZ

      I like Amos a lot. I also think Waller will go in the 3rd.

      • Michael (CLT)

        I support this thought

  25. Volume 12

    Rob, what’s your opinion of Utah WR Dres Anderson? This guy was very exciting before the knee injury and kind of jumped out at me as a potential Seahawk earlier in the year. I know his hands are inconsistent, but he’s a gritty kid, a fantastic run blocker, and a deep threat.

    Peter, I know your the de-facto Utah fan. Please chime in as well my man. Do you know when his pro day is?

    • peter

      haha! Honestly I do not, you would think I would have that memorized in mind with all the Utah Love. Honestly I like Utah because I like underdogs. Next year if Maryland makes some noise prepare to see a lot of their prospects by me! (joke) but seriously I’ll check out when it is. liking underdogs is how I got into ECU’s Hardy btw.

    • peter

      March 26

      • Volume 12

        Thanks bro. What are your thought on WR Dres Anderson?

  26. manthony

    Nice mock Rob, you do an absolute amazing job for only ad have a wonderful site for being just one man. You consistantly provide better analysis then any of the ESPN beat writers.
    If our 3rd and 4th rounds shape up like that i will be absolutley ecstatic and think your on to something with Rob Crisp late as well, and he could be the Bowie/Bailey of this class.
    I really like the Anderson pick, I’ve seen that big mofo catch Mariota several times. Just read ver on Field Gulls, Danny Kelly reporting we have interest in Tramon Williams from GB and Cary Williams from Philly, i know he’s from USC, so bpth players have ties to the Seahawks and I think we’ll nab one of them if not both. With those type of reports coming out, I do not think we’re looking at a cb early.
    I’d hate to see it be used on any db early unless its the LSU kid, im not a fan of Peters so that news was a bit refreshing. I do hope we land some of these guys, i think this would be a far more competitve class then the one we brought in last year.
    Some of the mocks I’ve seen has your guy Eli Harold falling out of the first so maybe we nab him up.
    Obviously our free agency will dictate what we do in the draft and we coud start trying to figute out where our front office might looking at addressing through the draft.

    • Rob Staton

      Thanks man

    • Volume 12

      Which one is from USC?

      I really like CB Cary Williams as a potential ‘stop-gap,’ we’ve all been debating. He just seems like he’d seamlessly slide into the LOB. He’s kind of like a Brandon Browner type corner with Sherman esque size.

      • manthony

        I thought cary williams was, think i was think of cary harris though. Yeah i think cary williams would be a good fit, played in the same scheme in philly and plus, theres a good amount of eagles fans that are saying they would of rather kept him over maxwell.

  27. Steele1324

    Rob, great mock. I share your enthusiasm for many of the same guys, and would love it if the Hawks go in this direction.

    The headline today is their FA interest in Tramon Williams, and hosting Cary Williams. Does this change things in terms of Peters and Alex Carter? Looks like they don’t want a corner at the top after all.

    • Rob Staton

      If they go with a high profile veteran stop gap there’s every chance it changes things. Of course… it could be a decoy. But I think it would suggest they don’t expect to take a corner early.

  28. Jeff M.

    Going off the Scouts Inc ratings the way you do in this, I’d try to trade up a few picks in the 1st to grab Jalen Collins (they have him #28 overall, so it’d probably just take a 4th and change), otherwise get Eli Harold or Bud Dupree (#34, #38).

    At #63 they have Sammie Coates available (#67 overall) and I like his upside there but don’t think he falls that far. I’d hope for one of Fisher or Sambrailo here (both lower than this in Scouts Inc ranks), or Ali Marpet from Hobart. At #95 Mario Edwards Jr (their #96 overall), one of the aforementioned OGs, or either of your fourth-round picks (both of whom I like a lot and would feel fine reaching a round on).

    I won’t try to project specific guys beyond that point but spend the back half of the draft filling whatever holes remain and grabbing guys with some big upside–make sure to stock up on DL (both DT and pass rusher) as it looks to me like the unit with the most turnover in the coming years.

  29. matt509

    Surprised there has been little mention of Andre Johnson if he gets released. He’s supposedly upset because he’s been told he’ll get less playing time this season. I think he’s upset because it’s less playing time on a team that isn’t necessarily ready to contend yet. I’m sure he would be fine with the playing time in Seattle if it meant he had a chance at a ring.

    • CC

      If somehow AJ signs with Seattle, I would be ecstatic! A 1-2 year rental with a 3 year deal – with the guarantee up front would be a great move by Seattle! I also think our WR room could use some veteran guidance – AJ would provide that!

      • SunPathPaul

        You guys are right on! AJ would be the steal of FA! He would totally tilt that WR room w his veteran presence, and it would totally shift the defenses approach against us. The other WR’s would have to play lesser CB’s, and Lynch would have an easier box to run through.

        Plus Imagine Russell Wilson throwing to this HoF guy AJ!!! Dude…They would click well, and we would get more first downs and points per game. Winning!!! That’s what AJ deserves!! GET HIM! 2-3 years!

    • matt509

      A couple other options could be Dwayne Bowe and Brandon Marshall.

  30. Chris Calvert

    Rob, reports came out this morning from the Milwaukee Sentinel. Said we will be targeting Tramon Williams. Rejected a 2 year 8 million from the Packers and wants at least 5. Not sure how he compares to our other typical corners, I just know he’s solid in coverage. Your thought on Williams?

    • Rob Staton

      Solid veteran stopgap. Would take the pressure off needing to start a rookie in 2015. It’s just about how much you want to pay. $5m isn’t cheap but if he’s productive it’s value.

      • bobbyk

        I like the Williams idea.

        • Cysco

          not at 5+mil. That’s some serious cash.

  31. Trevor

    Great post Rob love the insight and thought into each pick. Until free agency is over it is almost impossible to know which way they will go with the first pick but if we go with a CB like Peters and Jones in the early 2nd I think it would be exciting to see our secondary in a years time after they had a chance to coach up an athletic talent like one of those guys. They have turned late rounders and UDFA like Browner, Maxwell and Sherm into stars. The thought of a true shut down corner opposite Sherm is very exciting.

    Bottom line is if we come out of the draft with Anderson, Mcbride, Hodges, Waller and Crisp I would be happy. I would switch up Poole and Sambrillo though but that is just nitpicking really.

    I really hope they get the other Georgia Tech Wideout who tore his ACL as an UDFA or even in the 7th. When I went back to watch the Waller tape he jumped off the screen as a beast with great hands and an awesome blocker. He could be a huge steal if the knee heals well.

    Keep up the great posts Rob I look forward to them everyday!

    • bobbyk

      I look forward everyday, too. Thanks so much.

    • CC

      I like Poole too – very athletic. McBride or Agholor as a WR/KR/PR – is a position of need. We got nothing out of that position this year

  32. Trevor

    One last thing when you watch Peters play he just seems like a Seahawk DB.

  33. HOUSE

    Rob,

    As always, very good write up. I like that you discuss possibilities and not CERTAINTIES you feel. I love the McBride and Sambrailo picks. I can see your point on Waller possibly never showing his size.

    I just saw this on pft. With a veteran CB signing (I still prefer Charles Tillman), do you think SEA will still take 2 CBs?
    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/03/05/reports-cary-williams-to-visit-seahawks/

    I know we have typically carried 6 CBs and currently we have Sherm, Simon, Burley, Lane (IR). I could see a vet signing and a draft pick. With Lane on the IR and more than likely riding the PUP list, I could see an additional guy being on the roster…

    • HOUSE

      I forgot to add Eric Pinkins to the list and I know DeShawn Shead plays more at the backup FS position

    • Rob Staton

      If we’re talking $5m for a season of Cary or Tramon Williams, I think we’re looking at one or the other rather than one. It would be a nice way to avoid starting a rookie, but I would expect one or two to be drafted as the future starter.

      • Turp

        Signing one of them wouldn’t change the need for drafting 2CB, right?

        • Attyla the Hawk

          No. But it affords flexibility if that 2nd CB is snatched up before we pick.

          And it gives the team the added ability to move down in the draft and not feel like they have to burn #31 at the position. If we are still wanting a CB, yet trade down and aren’t in a position to get a CB we like as a result — our situation isn’t dire at that point.

          Just adds options. Which the team can and has in the past used to add value elsewhere.

  34. bobbyk

    Cary Williams visiting the Hawks today. Looks like the FO plan is to definitely replace Maxwell as a starter in free agency with a cheaper option. Will be nice going into the draft not feeling like we’ve got to get a CB in the first few days and if they do it’ll be because one fell too far and was too good to pass on.

    • Rob Staton

      “Looks like the FO plan is to definitely replace Maxwell as a starter in free agency with a cheaper option.”

      Possibly, or it could be a classic decoy to get the corner they really like. Signing Matt Flynn pretty much helped set up the drafting of Russell Wilson.

      • manthony

        Russell exceded expectations. All the Matt Flynn signing did was ensure we werent going there in the first round, and thats how i interpret this move too. Adding a veteren to compete with maybe that stanford cb or another one that we might target in the 4th. It allows you to prioritize elsewhere first

  35. Ross

    Awesome, awesome stuff Rob. I’m really thankful for all the hard work you put in to your blog, this is hands down the best place for Seahawks analysis on the net.

    Love this mock. I’m a big fan of Marcus Peters and Tre McBride. I’m a big fan of sparky, competitive guys in general. Peters’ problems in Washington are obviously concerning but I’m impressed by how he’s handled it in the draft process so far. It’s revealed that he’s self conscious and mature enough to be accountable for his mistakes. McBride is great because I think he can do anything. Outside, inside, slot, wide, block, kick return, lead in the locker room. A more complete receiver than every prospect outside the big three, with underrated athleticism.

    Got a couple of questions. Zack Hodges. Great back story. Clearly athletic and has great measurables with those Russell Okung-like arms. I noticed NFL.com has none other than O’Brien Schofield as his NFL comparison. I assume OB will sign somewhere else, so is this the kind of production we can expect for Hodges?

    Also, Henry Anderson, he can stuff the run effectively which is what we want from a first down tackle, but how about his pass rush? I think Tony McDaniel, no offense to him, is the weak link among the starters on the defense. We could really use an upgrade to the pass rush at that position. Can Anderson offer that as well as great run defense and the cheaper price tag?

    • Rob Staton

      I think Anderson showed at the Senior Bowl he can be an effective pass rusher. Nobody could block him. He didn’t show that much at Stanford, but the potential is there. And at Stanford the scheme up front is very run-D orientated inside with the backers rushing. Thanks for the kind words man.

      • bobbyk

        Agreed on what I’ve now watched of him 100%.

  36. Ed

    I wouldn’t personally like the first 2 picks. Without knowing who is available, I realize you don’t fight the board. I would rather stick at 31 to get a Fisher/Erving/Flowers (unless we trade it away for someones 1st next year) and trade up in 2nd to get Agholor/Dorsett. Like McBride as our 3rd and Carter as our 4th.

    Williams (short term)/Paea (long term)/Sheard (long term)/Johnson (short term) would be a great FA and fill a lot of holes.

    • Drew

      At #31, the value isn’t there for someone to trade next years 1st rounder to us. Next year’s 1st is equal to this years 2nd.

  37. EranUngar

    Great work Rob, I’d be very happy with that class, especially the 3rd day crop.

    As for the day 1-2 picks, FA will have a major effect on those. The focus will be on DL, CB, WR/TE. After we know what we did in FA we’ll know what our top draft picks should be.

    I do love the idea of 4 day 2 picks. I think our 1st plus 5th should net us a 2nd and 3rd.

    I understand your reasoning regarding Peters but something about this pick does not feel right. It’s our top pick, we never went for a CB this high. Now we go for one that has some coaching issues and slightly shorter arms with our first pick? sounds a bit too much to me but what do i know.

  38. peter

    I’m super excited to see Crisp at the next level. Watching him play I can only assume its a combo if injuries and a mediocre team that keeps him down the draft boards.

  39. hawkfaninMT

    My mock is shaping up with Crisp and Poole both in there along with Nick Marshall somewhere. Something about him just makes me want him on the roster. Still on the fence with Eric Rowe, and Waller. Not sure why, but very skeptical of him.

    Lil Brandon marshall tidbit:
    http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/3653/brandon-marshall

    Could be had for a midround pick? At 7.5M per year over the next two seasons seems like a bargain, when considering Andre Johnson for 10M per year

    • CC

      I don’t mind Marshall, but I’d rather sign AJ if possible – he’s a good guy and teammate – and the bigger presence in the red zone.

      I just imagine the corner touch pass from Russell to AJ. I hope he wants to win a SB.

      • SunPathPaul

        AJ vs. Marshall isn’t close to me. I like Marshall, but his personality resembles the problems we had with Percy Harvin. AJ has ZERO of that crap. He would be perfect in Seattle for 2-3 years. RW would love this guy on and off the field. I also don’t think it’d take 10 py, more like 6-7 mill py… and Marshall’s contract is $7.25 million guaranteed just this year, 2015…

        Go for AJ!

      • John_s

        I think at this point in their careers, Marshall is the better Redzone threat.

        http://youtu.be/Zt3I3VF_lrg

        http://youtu.be/pIC2wF5Fj-A

        http://youtu.be/U1wfPSoYuWg

      • redzone086

        And has 1 redzone catch in the past 3 years. I like Marshall way more

        • redzone086

          AJ has 1 catch. Dang spell checker.

    • Volume 12

      Could it be the fact that Nick Marshall is a team first player, with length, grit, competitiveness, and almost identical measurable and combine numbers to Richard Sherman?

      I get he hasn’t played CB for awhile, but having 1 CB that sees the game through the eyes of a WR and another that see it through the eyes of a QB is highly appealing/exciting.

      IMO Nick Marshall could be one of the steals of the draft in a year or two’s time.

      • hawkfaninMT

        I see all of those things too… Although Rob and other analysts that are much smarter than I, do not for some reason. I agree, round 4 or later I will be happy as a clam

        • Volume 12

          Not true. Mel Kiper said he could see a team taking a chance on Marshall in round 3. Now that’s best case scenario.

          I agree with you and think that if Seattle does target Nick Marshall it will be rounds 4-6.

  40. CC

    Rob, looks like Dwayne Bowe might be cut too – any thoughts on him as a red zone type of threat? I know he had no TDs last year, but I wonder if that has more to do with the Chiefs offense and QB rather than Bowe himself. To me another option if AJ goes somewhere else.

    I just haven’t watched him enough lately to know if he still is a guy who can play.

    • Rob Staton

      Bowe is a spent force IMO. Wouldn’t be interested personally.

  41. Hawks420

    Rob, epic job this year, as always.
    This is bar none the only place I can go for reliable Seahawks “team building” information. Not to mention my only source of off season entertainment…

    I haven’t posted my little mock yet this year and Marcus Peters is my number one pick too, after trading back a few spots to grab him. I didn’t want to seem like a UW alumni and after not seeing eye to eye last year on ASJ I was a little reluctant to post. I think Marcus Peters could be one of the highest players on the Hawks big board this year, right in between Sherm and Simon/Lane. I’m pretty sure he could play exclusively outside or exclusively Nickelback or bouncing inside on three WR sets. Depending on what happens with Simon and Lane.

    Marshawn Lynch also has ties to Peters and has taken him under his wing. Maybe it would give Marshawn a little motivation to stick around for a couple more years.

    https://m.youtube.com/results?q=marcus%20peters%20vs%20marshawn&sm=12

    Plus he has one of my favorite highlight videos this year. Looks very “Seahawky” to me.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BTgADqqU0wY

    • Rob Staton

      Thanks man really appreciate the kind words.

  42. Cysco

    so reports out that the bears are looking to trade Brandon Marshall.

    So, question.

    Which would you prefer, Brandon Marshall or Julius Thomas? Marshall’s salary is in the 8mil range for the next three seasons I believe. This is probably the same ballpark that Thomas will get in free agency. So, who would you take?

    Me? I’d give Chicago the Harvin pick and Take Marshall.

    you?

    • bobbyk

      Depends if the Harvin pick is in the 4 or 6th round. Wilson needs a good/big target though.

    • Turp

      I’d rather have Thomas in WR rich/TE poor draft.

    • CHawk Talker Eric

      Marshall or Andre Johnson?

      • Cysco

        no question. Marshall.

    • lil'stink

      If I had to choose between Marshall and Thomas it’s no contest. I love the idea of Brandon Marshall but ultimately I’m not sure how great of an idea it is. His contract would make it tougher to sign other free agents, and this is a deep draft for WR’s. Granted, there aren’t many guys with Marshall’s size. I think you really have to question how much bang for your buck high priced pass catchers bring to this offense, seeing as how little we throw the ball.

      Given the $8 million+ per year that Thomas wants I really hope we don’t chase after him.

      • Cysco

        my hope would be you could get Marshall to rework his deal a bit and get him down to that 6-7mil a year range over the next three seasons. I actually think Marshall would do huge things for this offense. I don’t think it’s about volume, but more about creating opportunities and being a presence the defense has to account for.

  43. JaviOsullivan

    Rob, thanks for this post. Awesome post!!

    I would like to leave my seven round mock draft. I will use your same round picks and trades:

    – Second round pick (having traded down from #31)
    Preston Smith (DE, Mississippi State)

    – Second round pick (original selection, #63)
    Eric Rowe (CB, Utah)

    – Third round pick (SEA trades back into R3)
    Tre McBride (WR, Williams & Mary)

    – Third round pick (original selection, #95)
    Ali Marpet (G, Hobart)

    – Fourth round pick (original selection)
    Darren Waller (WR, Georgia Tech)

    – Fourth round pick (compensatory selection)
    Kurtis Drummond (S, Michigan State)

    – Fifth round pick (original selection)
    Edmond Robinson (OLB, Newberry)

    – Fifth round pick (compensatory selection)
    Laurence Gibson (T, Virginia Tech)

    – Fifth round pick (compensatory selection)
    Imoan Claiborne (CB, Northwestern State)

    – Sixth round pick (compensatory selection)
    Rakeem Nunez-Roches (DT, Southern Miss)

    – Seventh round pick (original selection)
    Terry Poole (T, San Diego State)

    • Rob Staton

      Thanks Javi and thanks for sharing your mock.

  44. smitty1547

    Is Peters saying all the right things because an agent has told him what to say, or does he believe in what hes saying, only he knows.
    I lived in Houston for years and although a die hard 12 i still follow the Texans as my second team, would love to have AJ in are meeting room tutoring the young guys we have and a couple new picks this year. I still have vivid painful memories or are leader taking a poop in the end zone after his one and only catch.
    Rob I have been a long time follower although I do not post much and let me tell you I click on your sight daily and read most of the comments I have long followed Peter King Monday morning QB and all I can say is its Thursday and I have no read it yet this week, will get to it in time but come here first.

    • Rob Staton

      Thanks smitty!

  45. Volume 12

    This is just me ‘spit-balling’ here, but if Seattle doesn’t target Julius Thomas or Jordan Cameron, or they price themselves out of Seahawks range, could Seattle target Minnesota TE Maxx Williams at the end of round 1 or early 2nd round? If the Jets do keep Percy Harvin, I don’t think they’ll trade back.

    There are reports/rumors that TE Maxx Williams has scared teams off with his ‘big’ or ‘cocky’ personality, but when has that ever turned Seattle off? If anything, I think his character and playing style is extremely ‘Seahawky.’

    I just think that at the end of round 1 Maxx Williams is the safest pass-catcher with the highest upside. And at only 20 years old, imagine what this kid could be in a couple years time with some work in the weight room? He’s the prototypical move TE that has become THE flavor in the NFL, and it is what Seattle is currently missing.

    Some question if he’s unique enough. IMO he is.

    I always come back to an old Basketball adage. ‘Skill or Will.’ Meaning you either have a unique skill-set/trait, or you will is unique. Character, motor, grit, leadership, personality, work ethic, preparation all fall into the ‘will’ category. And this is what makes Maxx unique.

    Right now until the Seahawks do make a big signing at the TE position, if they do, I’m mocking Minnesota TE Maxx Williams as Seattle’s current 1st overall selection.

    • Ho Lee Chit

      I think Maxx Williams feel off everyone’s wish list when he ran a 4.78 forty at the combine. Rather than the first round, he looks more like a second or third round guy because he lacks the speed to get away from any DB’s in the NFL. My preference now would be for the Seahawks to pick up Virgil Green from Denver. Green ran a 4.64 at the combine. If Denver keeps Thomas the probably have to let Green walk. Green has been primarily used as a blocking TE in Denver but is a very good pass catcher.

      • Volume 12

        I could care less if he ran a 4.78 at the combine, He plays much faster than that in pads. That’s what matters. He’ll get that 40 time down to 4.7 or 4.68 at his pro day.

        Look at WR Jaelen Strong. Had a great combine, but the tape doesn’t lie. He has 4.4. speed and can’t separate from PAC-12 CBs, how’s he going to get open against NFL corners?

        He doesn’t have to run away from DBs to be effective in the NFL. They have Luke Wilson for that. I don’t think Seattle places a ton of emphasis on speed at the TE position other than Luke. Zach Miller, Moeaki, Chase Dixon, Rashaun Allen, Cooper Helfet aren’t exactly ‘burners.’ Seems to me they like they old-school types. Luke Wilson was an outlier. They almost had to take him. It’s not often that 4.5 TEs come along and last until the mid rounds,

        You’d be basically getting a mid 1st round pick in Maxx Williams a year or two early since he’s a R-SO. If the TE class wasn’t so weak in this year’s draft, then I could definitely see him as a 2nd or 3rd rounder.

        • bobbyk

          I’m from Minnesota and from what I’ve seen of Maxx Williams (and heard from Gopher fan friends), I agree, he is absolutely so much faster/quicker than someone who runs a 4.7 40 yard dash. The news had a quick thing on his Pro Day recently and he looked so quick (for any receiver position) cutting in/out of his breaks. Granted, that was just my watching a quick part of the pro day, but you get the idea. I remember when hid Dad played for the Gophers and was a 1st round pick at Center. Maxx is most definitely going to fill out more if he’s anything like his Dad.

          Don’t sleep on Blake Bell though. He’s got some serious potential.

          Absolutely agree on the Jaelen Strong comment, too. He does not separate with consistency. He’d fit in with our WRs but I don’t want someone to fit in like that. I want a Devin Smith who will actually force DBs to respect our speed.

          • Volume 12

            I do like Blake Bell. WR Devin Smith is also growing on me more and more.

    • SunPathPaul

      You know Volume 12, I was kind of thinking similar here. If we do take Maxx, our TE group is set for years, Zach Miller probably moves on, we save that $, and he adds a solid catching body to our offense, not to mention he looks to be a good blocker. If we resign Moeaki, and we have Helfet, suddenly we have a dynamic and stable group for possibly years to come. If we don’t grab Maxx early, we might target Clive Walford in the late 2nd… He would do a similar thing…make that TE group solid and functional for years…Cheap too!

    • Rob Staton

      I really like Maxx Williams, but I’m not convinced he has the kind of special qualities Seattle looks for in the early rounds. He’s essentially a solid, safe pair of hands. I think if they’re ever going to draft a TE early it’ll be a true mismatch. I think he’ll be a solid player at the next level in the right offense, but I think it’s unlikely to be in Seattle. I really like him though.

  46. Volume 12

    Well, strike DL Darnell Dockett off our potential FA additions. Signed with SF for 2 years. Man, that D-line they have is old.

    Another guy I like is DT Kenrick Ellis, This guy is a monster! If they don’t sign DL Karl Klug who I absolutely love, hope they take a shot on Ellis.

    Whether we like it or not, or have any faith in him, this will be DT Jesse Williams last chance to show if he can stay healthy and contribute. Interested to see what a healthy Jimmy Staten can do as well. Great length.

  47. David M2

    There were some interesting numbers from Utah’s Pro Day:

    Participating in this year’s Pro Day event included defensive back La’Ron Bennett, punter Jaron Bentrude, wide receiver Ronald Butler, placekicker Nick Diaz, running back Joe Hill, defensive end B.J. Larsen, defensive back Rashard Stewart, safety Brian Suite, safety Frankie Sutera, offensive lineman Bill Vavau, linebacker Zach Vigil and offensive lineman Kevin Whimpey.

    Highlighting Thursday’s action was Hill who ran a 4.26 40-yard dash, while Suite clocked in a with a time of 4.45. Butler had a time of 4.50, Stewart ran a 4.59, Bentrude ran a 4.61, Sutera ran a 4.64, Vigil ran a 4.66 and Larsen clocked in with a time of 4.82.
    Suite had the best vertical jump during the day with a leap of 37.5”, while Bentrude jumped 36.5”. In the broad jump, Suite again had the best mark with a jump of 10’2”, while Hill recorded a jump of 9’8”.
    Whimpey recorded the top mark on the 225-pound bench press with 39 reps, while Vigil had 26 reps and Vavau finished with 25.

    Brian Suite looks interesting: Draft Scout Link

    Seems a bit light for a RB, but could Hill be a WR conversion project for a team?
    Joe Hill Draft Scout

  48. Madmark

    31 Todd Gurley RB
    63 Ali Marpet G
    96 Clive Walford TE
    127 Tre McBride WR
    comp Christian Covington DT
    159 Kurtis Drummond S
    comp Terry Poole LOT
    comp Damain Swain Slot CB
    165 Xavier Williams DT
    comp ?
    223?
    UDFA SaQuan Edwards CB
    Only had so my time for looking in the later rounds and what I got down is pretty much scraps from my notes. It may not be Seattle idea but I feel we need to get a TE in here to block and I have faith that Willson is that play making TE. The 2 you talk about don’t block and they surely wouldn’t catch 80 passes here. I do what we always do. Bring Henry Melton who will be healthy on a try it contract and see what a few other DL would take to come here. I straighten myself out on a Suh coming here and now I am on track and being fruggle about FA signings latter after the crazy signing have disappeared.

    • SunPathPaul

      That would be great!!! Just feel Walford and McBride probably both go a round earlier.

      • Volume 12

        Wasn’t SaQuan Edwards accused of rape and something else that was pretty horrible? I could be thinking of someone else.

        • Madmark

          there were no charges but he’s UDFA he can come in and go in the first day for all I care

    • Steele1324

      Good mock, Madmark. I’d be all for that happening.

      I am not confident that Willson is the playmaking TE. And they can do better than Melton, I think.

  49. Erik

    I am excited for FA more than anything. The Seahawks we do what we want draft strategy is awesome and I am sure on draft day as the picks go by I am going to be researching players I have never heard of before. If it isn’t broke don’t fix it.

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