Seattle’s likely draft targets: Nickel, DE, DT

Today the Seahawks signed Cassius Marsh (meaning I get the chance to mispronounce his first name again during podcasts) and Nate Orchard.

Seattle’s free agency period has been extremely focused. They’ve protected their comp picks and they were determined to try and keep the O-line together. When they lost J.R. Sweezy to Arizona — a deal that happened surprisingly quickly — they swiftly signed Mike Iupati. Apart from that, it’s been quiet. Modest moves, no big swings and additions — like Marsh and Orchard — who don’t impact their 2020 comp picks.

They have lost starters though. Justin Coleman is the most notable. Shamar Stephen is another along with Dion Jordan. While Jordan wasn’t exactly a force for the Seahawks last season, clearly they were hoping he could provide a dynamic book-end to Frank Clark.

They’re currently meeting with available free agents to see where they can find value and provide a hedge for the draft. Marsh and Orchard won’t necessarily replace any of their lost starters. They’re cheap and can provide competition in camp. They may well make other signings like this.

Ultimately though the moves they haven’t made are telling. No replacement at nickel. No defensive tackle or base-end additions. It means all three are likely draft priorities.

We’ll keep discussing the possibility of drafting other positions too. A quarterback early remains a wildcard because this Russell Wilson contract saga isn’t going anywhere — especially if/when an agreement isn’t reached by April 15th.

However, if they’re satisfied a positive conclusion will come with Wilson or the quarterbacks they like simply aren’t available — this looks like a plan. Prioritise replacing the players you lost at nickel, defensive tackle and defensive end. Increase the depth and competition at other positions (eg TE/WR) and plan ahead.

The nickel position

We talked about Byron Murphy earlier this week. He might be the best defensive back in the draft. He’s certainly the most naturally skilled defensive back. He’s a terrific fit for the nickel given his coverage ability, run defense, tackling, willingness to deliver a blow and short-area quickness. He’s gritty and has the competitive spirit the Seahawks will love.

However, they’ve consistently targeted players with traits with their first pick. That doesn’t mean a SPARQ monster. It simply means a player who either fits a prototype or preference — or has a particularly unique skillset. Malik McDowell had amazing length, power and a unique ability to win with speed and hand-use off the edge then kick inside to play nose tackle and anchor against two blocking linemen. Rashaad Penny had exceptional speed and quickness for his size and an ability to impact the game as a runner, receiver or returner. Germain Ifedi looked like the Hulk with longer arms. Paul Richardson has excellent suddenness and looked a lot like DeSean Jackson.

Nothing particularly stands out in terms of traits or uniqueness about Murphy. He just has a combination of skills — plus a heap of tenacity and skill — that makes him an excellent football player. Whether that translates to the next level remains to be seen. And that’s why traits matter. If you have physical limitations at the next level they will be exploited. If you have an elite athletic profile — good coaches will back themselves to make the talent translate.

I think Murphy will be just fine in the NFL. He’s a quality player. But it’s something to consider as we discuss what the Seahawks might do with their first pick.

It’s interesting that Tony Pauline linked the Seahawks to Juan Thornhill in his new podcast today. It’s already been revealed that he’ll be one of Seattle’s official-30 visits. Like Murphy, he projects to the nickel. Pauline connected the Seahawks to Thornhill as a cornerback (which I take to mean nickel). He was a playmaker last year with six interceptions and he has the outstanding athletic profile they go for. If it’s not Murphy, there’s every chance the Seahawks could target Thornhill to act as a big nickel and a Coleman replacement.

A lot of the big name safeties in college are playing nickel full time or mixing their snaps. It’s the way the game is going. The Seahawks used three-safety looks last season and Justin Coleman played over 60% of the snaps. Finding someone who can act as a corner/safety hybrid in that role seems to be something they’re considering having also met or visited with Darnell Savage and Chauncey Gardner-Johnson as well as Thornhill. Marvell Tell and Amani Hooker are possible options too.

This could all be a big smokescreen of course but Coleman is the one key starter they lost this off-season. Replacing him could be a bigger priority than we initially anticipated.

The defensive end position

Dion Jordan was playing anywhere between 275-285lbs for the Seahawks. It’s a shame he could never stay healthy. There were flashes of ability. Now they need to find a player of a similar size to fill that role.

This draft class is loaded with options in that regard. If they don’t take a nickel defender with their first pick — it could be a five-technique type to bookend Frank Clark.

We know TCU’s brilliant L.J. Collier had an official-30 visit scheduled. He’s 283lbs. His tape was exceptional and his Senior Bowl performance even better. He didn’t test particularly well at the combine in terms of agility (4.78 short shuttle) but he was highly explosive. He also has the drive and gritty backstory they like.

Collier has been a riser since the Senior Bowl and might go too early for them, especially if they prioritise replacing Justin Coleman with their first pick. The great thing about this draft class is the options keep on coming. There’s a reason why John Schneider called it the best D-line draft in his 27 years of scouting. They might use that to their advantage. If they can get a D-line starter in round three — that gives them the opportunity to go nickel with the first pick (or quarterback if they — ahem — need to).

In our combine preview we noted the Seahawks appear to key-in on the short shuttle with defensive linemen. Rasheem Green (4.39), Quinton Jefferson (4.37), Jordan Hill (4.51), Jaye Howard (4.47) and Malik McDowell (4.53) all tested superbly in the short shuttle.

The following players tested very well in the short shuttle and could provide some five-technique potential:

Anthony Nelson (271lbs) — 4.23
Rashan Gary (277lbs) — 4.29
Zach Allen (281lbs) — 4.36
Charles Omenihu (280lbs) — 4.36
Daniel Wise (281lbs) — 4.36
John Cominsky (286lbs) — 4.38
Keke Kingsley (288lbs) — 4.46
Dre’Mont Jones (281lbs) — 4.53

Rashan Gary will likely go in the top-10 but they should have an opportunity to consider the other names. And if they’re not completely tied to the short shuttle as a factor — Joe Jackson at Miami is another name to monitor.

Of course it’s just as possible Rasheem Green at 275lbs is being earmarked for this role. For that reason they might be willing to draft an EDGE instead — which seemingly is the role Cassius Marsh and Nate Orchard are coming in to compete for. Justin Hollins, Ben Banogu, Brian Burns (who I still think might last into round two despite his excellent combine and pro-day), Christian Miller and D’Andre Walker are some of the names they might consider if they do decide to roll with Green as a five-tech type and try to add some speed instead.

That said, Hollins’ tape leaves you wanting so much more. Banogu is more elite athlete than consistent football player at this point. Burns might be long gone. Miller and Walker have both suffered injuries recently that has impacted their ability to test.

The additions of Marsh and Orchard aren’t significant enough to eliminate a position group as a high-pick contender. Yet two similar signings perhaps indicate they are looking for a bigger DE to play across from Frank with a high-ish pick rather than going for the EDGE. And with Collier, Omenihu, Allen, Nelson, Keke and others — they should be able to find someone they like.

The defensive tackle position

Shamar Stephen could be replaced full-time by Poona Ford. Yet the Seahawks are light at defensive tackle and so far haven’t made any additions. It’s likely they’ll draft a defensive tackle — but at what point?

Recently we considered the prospect of UCF’s Tyrsten Hill being a target (possibly with their first pick). Arguably no player had a better drill workout at the combine than Hill. His movement, change of direction, power and work in space was incredibly impressive for a 308lbs defensive tackle. He tested as well as the top defensive tackles in the draft in terms of agility and explosive power.

If you want a top-20 physical profile without spending a top-20 pick — Hill is pretty much the guy to go for.

He won’t go as early as perhaps he should because some teams appear to have reservations about his final year at UCF. He was essentially benched by the new coaching staff as he didn’t see eye-to-eye with them. The best player on defense under Scott Frost — now Hill had been relegated to a rotational role.

It was possibly a bit petty by the coaches. UCF beat Memphis in their Championship game but only after getting into a major deficit with Hill watching from the sidelines. As soon as he was introduced he took over. The Knights won. Hill was the defensive MVP.

The Seahawks have never been put off a challenge and to be fair — Hill seems perfectly personable and intelligent in interviews. Sometimes a face doesn’t fit somewhere but it can excel in another destination. He doesn’t seem like a bad dude — reports say he’s quite opinionated. Seattle’s roster has always carried opinionated players. The fact is Hill is incredibly talented with massive potential and a good coaching staff will see an opportunity here to land a potential star. He’ll probably go in the top-60 if not much higher.

Aside from Hill (who could easily be the sixth defensive tackle off the board in a great class) — Jerry Tillery (who has his own character question marks) also has the traits they seem to like. There are some questions about his fit though — can he play defensive tackle full time? He didn’t rush the edge at Notre Dame and might be pigeon-holed into acting as a full-time 3-4 DE like another former Notre Dame lineman Stephon Tuitt. Dre’Mont Jones was a prolific pass rusher for Ohio State and an impact player. He might be more suited to the inside/out role than full time DT.

If Hill and the rest end up going too early for Seattle — or if they prioritise nickel and defensive end first — it won’t be an issue. This draft is deep at defensive tackle.

Armon Watts is an underrated impact-player with the power to anchor against the run but still offer some pass rush (with a great frame too). It’ll be interesting to see where Renell Wren lands. Tony Pauline noted earlier this week the Seahawks like Greg Gaines. Albert Huggins can play early downs against the run. Khalen Saunders is incredibly raw and needs to be spelled but he flashed on tape and at the Senior Bowl. Daniel Wise was a rocket at Kansas and could be a specialist interior rusher or inside/out type.

They might be willing to wait until round four for a defensive tackle. Even if they do — they should be able to find a good one in this draft.

Of course there are other positions they could target early. Receiver is a possibility. Mike Garofolo reported today that N’Keal Harry will make an official-30 visit to the Seahawks. Quarterback as we’ve discussed. Maybe even tight end. The need at receiver will become even greater if they lose Doug Baldwin. They might want to add a big target anyway.

Here’s the full list of reported official-30 visits so far:

Parris Campbell (WR, Ohio State)
L.J. Collier (DE, TCU)
Dre Greenlaw (LB, Arkansas)
Darnell Savage (S, Maryland)
Juan Thornhill (S, Virginia)
Darwin Thompson (RB, Utah State)
Rashan Gary (DE, Michigan)
Jace Sternberger (TE, Texas A&M)
Corrion Ballard (S, Utah)
Derrek Thomas (CB, Baylor)
N’Keal Harry (WR, Arizona State)

It was also reported that the Seahawks met with Chauncey Gardner-Johnson but it’s unclear if this was a VMAC visit.

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  1. Eli

    I like Kingsley Keke. Has really good length and tested reasonably well at the combine. His tape is pretty inconsistent but I guess he had a pretty good final season in college – watching some of his positive plays, you see he has the ability to be explosive and an anchor, really really good bend for an interior lineman, and he can hit you with a variety of pass rush moves. He also has experience in one- and two-gap schemes, and he apparently slimmed down his senior year to play more DE so he’s got experience across the whole d-line. He could be a sneaky Day 3 type to monitor.

    • TomLPDX

      I watch Keke all year and was never disappointed in what he was doing. Solid player.

      • Eli

        That’s nice to hear. Do you watch a lot of A&M games? I’m super interested in LB Otaro Alaka – he physically reminds me of KJ on film but I haven’t seen enough to have a firm opinion on him yet.

        • TomLPDX

          I did but I’m not a good talent evaluator. I’ll leave that to others to determine. Love KJ though and glad we have him for one more year!

    • Volume12

      I like Kingsley quite a bit. Especially late day 2-early day 3.

  2. Trevor

    Nice writeup Rob and I think first Hawks pick likely comes from a name in this article unless someone unexpected falls. If Burns is there I think he might be hard to pass up. If not Savage or Hill would be the two guys I like most early in the 2nd round.

  3. Denver Hawk

    Agree it’s very apparent where the position priorities are for this team today. That said, too many of our mocks and draft assumptions are built on trading back as they’ve almost always done. What if they can’t find a partner or get close to equal value in a trade-back? What if the heavens deliver Rashan Gary at 21? Can they live with 4 picks this year and scoop up FA’s for depth knowing they have 11 picks next year? I would like to see it this way:
    1. DE/DT
    3. Nickel
    4. DE/DT
    5. WR/TE
    Army of UDFAs

    • Rob Staton

      Unfortunately there’s very little chance, almost none I’d say, Rashan Gary gets out of the top-10.

      And they will find a trade down partner for sure. I think it’s the one thing we can be certain of.

    • Eli

      We’re in the perfect spot for a trade down in my opinion. It takes on Top-10 or Top-15 guy to fall a bit, and some team will have him as their BPA or must get guy – someone like Andre Dillard. In that scenario I think it would be more realistic to expect we move down into the 27 to 32 range and pick up another 3rd and maybe like a 6th or 7th. Then from there we still are in the 1st with the potential to trade down again if we want.

    • Denver Hawk

      My only contention is that I don’t think ‘just trading back’ is as easy as many here think it is. Last year, the war room was high-fiving and chest bumping after their trade back. This year, there is direct competition too. Baltimore sits at 22 and 85 for their first 2 picks. I’m sure they’re hoping for the same trade partners. Also, if we see that the talent from 20-80 is deep this year, doesn’t everyone else? It’s not a secret so wouldn’t the rest of the teams with average or above average front office attempt to trade back as well? If so, this lowers the value the Hawks can get trading back. I can just see teams taking advantage of this weak position and only offering lower trade value for 21.

      • Rob Staton

        If Seattle and Baltimore are hoping for the same trade partners…. why would you move up to #22 and not #21?

        The Seahawks are in a better position.

  4. Trevor

    Rob last year Coleman was great in coverage but was a terrible tackler and his run support was spotty at best. Do you think that could be why the Hawks are looking at Safeties to fill that big nickel spot to improve in that area? I know Savage in particular is a solid tackler and very willing in run support and Murphy is as well. How are CGJ and Thornhill in that regard?

  5. Sean Harker

    I have a feeling they are going to go WR/TE with their first pick. If they trade back to 27-35 they will have options- Irv Smith, Harry, Whiteside, Harmon, AJ Brown, Whiteside, Deebo all could be available in the 25-40 range.

    • Eli

      A.J. Brown is going to be awesome – Dane Brugler @ The Athletic threw out a Smith-Schuster comparison on him. While I don’t know if he has quite that high of a ceiling I think he is suffering a bit from the “only played in the slot” narrative – that’s more a consequence of the presence of the other 2 Ole Miss receivers and their lack of ability to play the slot. When DK went down and Brown spent more time on the outside he was just as fine as in the slot.

      • Sean Harker

        Yeah I’ve seen that comp a few time. Garafolo jsut tweeted that Harry is making a visit as well. I would really love to see them go WR with their first pick. Especially a big bodied one. JJAW would be a dream pick up.

      • Sea Mode

        He ran an unofficial 4.26 SS and 6.89 3C at his pro day. That’s pretty good for 226 lbs. 4.49 is great as well.

        I could see the Hawks being interested in a big slot WR.

        Deebo Samuel is more explosive, but also 12 lbs lighter. Otherwise, they are fairly similar by the numbers.

        I need to take a closer look at Brown.

        Daniel Jeremiah also called him wrote this about him last year:

        Biggest takeaway: When I go back and study the successful wide receivers at the NFL level, I’m always reminded of the most underrated quality they all have in common: toughness. That is the best aspect of Brown’s game. He plays physical from snap to whistle and isn’t afraid to work in the middle of the field. He can continue to learn and develop the craft of being a successful route runner and pass catcher, but you can’t coach toughness. He’s got it.

        He reminds me of: JuJu Smith-Schuster. They both have outstanding size, play strength and competitiveness. I think Brown might be a little faster, but neither player relies on raw explosion to win one-on-one battles. They use their strength and craftiness to create space, and once they get the ball in their hands, they refuse to be tackled.

      • DCD2

        Agree. AJ Brown looks like the best WR in this class to me. I asked Rob about him a few articles back and he thought he wasn’t a “Seahawks type” WR.

        I’m not sure what our FO thinks of him, but I’d be really excited if he was our first pick. If ADB can’t play our WR corps is probably the worst in the NFL.

        • Rob Staton

          Let’s roll back on ‘worst WR corps in the NFL’. Have a look at some of the other teams. Tyler Lockett is legit.

          Brown isn’t a Seahawks type. It’s not that I don’t like him as a player. I do. But they like suddenness and downfield playmaking ability. Brown, unquestionably, is very good at working openings in the shorter game. He’s not a burner, never will be.

          • Eli

            It’s just tough to say definitively – Ole Miss was so simple and unimaginative in their offense that its possible he just wasn’t given the chance to be that sort of weapon for them. Who knows. Narrative is hard to change once it has become ingrained.

            PFF just did a write-up on him:


            • Rob Staton

              I’m not basing my thoughts on his role in Ole Miss’ offense though. I’m basing it on where I saw him excel and where some of his limitations are.

          • DCD2

            Agree. AJ Brown looks like the best WR in this class to me. I asked Rob about him a few articles back and he thought he wasn’t a “Seahawks type” WR.

            I’m not sure what our FO thinks of him, but I’d be really excited if he was our first pick. If ADB can’t play our WR corps is probably the worst in the NFL.

            • DCD2

              Sorry, not sure what happened with that re-post.

              How about ONE OF the worst? Aside from Lockett who had insane YPC and TD/Rec, we have a pretty bare cupboard.

              Moore had 26 catches, Brown had 14… Darboh had 8 and was cut by us and NE during the season.

              48 catches total coming back. Saying our WR group is near the bottom of the league is hardly sacrilege.

  6. ZB

    I could be mistaken but the Seahawks don’t take corners early right?

    • Sean Harker

      No. Quill went rd 3 and that is the earliest pick they have used on a CB.

    • Rob Staton

      We’re talking about nickel hybrid’s here though — not outside corners.

      • cha

        I like Murphy a lot but is that good value for a slot corner in the late first/early second round?

        Akeem King played particularly well against KC/Kelse last year. Does his skill profile come near Coleman’s?

        • Rob Staton

          I don’t know whether it’s value or not but Murphy is a fantastic talent. Wouldn’t necessarily be the direction I would go, just want to discuss as many possibilities before April 25th.

          I’d say Coleman and Murphy are different. Coleman quicker but Murphy maybe more sudden, more physical and a better hitter/tackler.

          Multiple safety looks might be more important now the Patriots showed everyone how to slow down the Rams.

          • Sean Harker

            What % chacne would you give them to make a pick in rd 1? I say 5%…

            Specific players they would stick and pick if available Rob?

            • Rob Staton

              I could see them making a pick in the late first after trading down.

              I don’t think there’s anyone they’ll stick for.

  7. Sea Mode

    Great article! (anything to take our minds off of the RW saga at this point…)

    Don’t forget about Michael Dogbe from Temple if they miss out on Trysten Hill. (which I still can’t see them allowing, btw…) Or even if they don’t miss out on Hill, they could double up with Dogbe on Day 3. Interior pass rushers are hard to find.

    Wondering if they might be looking through all these safeties just to see who might still be there in R3 and if they like him. Still finding it hard to get on board with that as their first pick unless it’s a playmaker with outstanding traits.

    This year they are going to sink their teeth into the wealth of DL talent available. The strength of the draft matches what we need, and I wouldn’t be surprised to see 3 picks dedicated to DL. We do definitely have to take Rasheem Green into account though.

    Next draft is looking to be “the year of the WR” so far, so maybe we just grab a guy like Mecole Hardman or Scotty MIller ( on Day 3 this year and call it good until things play out with Doug Baldwin. Maybe we can get Rondale Moore if he comes out next year to replace ADB. Maybe Laviska Shenault lasts to late R1 with all the other WRs there will be at the top.

    QB is really the wildcard this year. Would hate for it to have to happen given we have so few picks and there will be good players available early. They could use some youth at Guard as well so that’s never off the table either.

    • Volume12

      I think everything McGary has been through and overcome is really appealing to them.

    • Eli

      Unfortunately Rondale Moore can’t declare until 2021 – pretty insane what he did as a freshman though. There is going to still be some insane talent though next year at receiver – CeeDee Lamb, Tee Higgins, the duo out of Michingan, Ty Jones, Tyler Vaughns, and on and on

  8. schuemansky

    Anybody had a look at most probably UDFA CB /KR Dante Redwood, Mercyhurst, 5’10”, 186 lbs, 4,44 40, 40′ VJ, 11’0′ BJ, 7,03 3.cone?
    Nice article on him on

    • Donald Redwood

      Dante Redwood, Mercyhurst U.
      Career Stats:
      Tackles solo 121 asst 50 Total 171
      Passes Def 46 (4th all time PSac)

      Int 6

      Sr. Kick Rtn: 16, 489Y, 1TD Avg 30.6

      Proday stats:
      BJ 11’1″
      Vert 40′
      40′ 4.44

  9. j

    What is the consensus on Byron Cowart? Former five star guy, tested well.

    • Eburgz

      I asked about him the other day and didn’t get a reply. Looks like a fit to me. He was punking guys at senior bowl practice.

  10. Michael In Reno

    Hey Rob, what do you think of the Nate Orchard signing and the bringing back of Cassius Marsh?

    • Rob Staton

      Competition. Not expecting loads from either player. Always like Marsh as a dude. Like his intensity. Orchard — enjoyed watching him in Hard Knocks.

      • AndrewP

        Could make cutting Mingo more palatable…

        With the Russ/Frank situations, every bit helps…

        • Rob Staton

          They’re not cutting Mingo. Aside from anything else he has special teams value. And they don’t need extra cap room in 2019 to extend any of their guys.

          • GerryG

            Agreed he gives them depth, st play, decent in space, there’s really no point in cutting him. They aren’t signing any pricey FAs, that was the one reason we speculated on cutting him and/or J Brown

  11. Sea Mode

    Good to see guys appreciate what we have in Seattle after bouncing around a bit.

    BTW, is Jermaine Kearse still around and available? Might be a nice stopgap if we want to wait until next year for a WR. Maybe they already have an agreement in place and are just waiting it out because of the comp picks? Or is his skill set too redundant to Jaron Brown’s?

  12. Edgar

    Rob, I really do love reading your work. All this draft discussion sometimes scrambles my brain. 32 teams in this league and they all are looking to improve their rosters. At times I forget while Seattle is trying to find their missing pieces……..every other team is getting better as well. With 4 picks to start with, I just don’t see how Seattle’s 2019 draft will be memorable.

  13. Sea Mode

    Mentioned by Sean above, but here’s this:

    Mike Garafolo

    Arizona State WR N’Keal Harry will make a pre-draft visit to the #Seahawks, source says. Seattle, which is waiting to see what Doug Baldwin decides on his future, picks 21st.

    3:20 PM – 4 Apr 2019

    Full tracker:

    • Volume12

      Personally pretty fired up about this one.

      • RWIII

        Volume12: Question: If you can get a first round pick for Frank Clark. Would you do it?

        • Volume12

          Tempting, but no.

    • CaptainJack

      Slow, shorter than advertised premadona. Hard pass.

      • Sea Mode

        Write or wrong, you really buchered that spelling… 😉

        • Ross


      • Look Who's Hawkin?

        Shorter than advertised? What does that even mean lol

  14. MattyIce425

    Hey Rob, what do you think the chances are of Seattle using either Tedric Thompson or Delano Hill as their big nickel? It seems like the team is high on both players, and it would be shame if whoever doesn’t start next to Bradley McDougald has to sit on the bench. I know Akeem King has also been suggested for that role too.

    Out of the 3 players mentioned, Delano Hill had the best combine numbers for agility and quickness, with a 4.27 short shuttle, and a 6.96 3-cone. Not quite Justin Coleman with his 3.98 short shuttle and 6.61 3-cone, but I’m not sure if few players can match those numbers.

    Thanks for the great draft analysis as always!

    • RWIII

      Matty: The Hawks need to add a defensive back in the draft. Whether it’s a corner, a slot, corner, big nickle or a safety. The Hawks need to add a defensive back.

    • Rob Staton

      Sure they could easily use Delano and Hill in that way. They did at times last season. But there are some excellent athletes in this class.

  15. charlietheunicorn

    Ben Banogu, DE/OLB, TCU

    He was on the weekday drivetime show on 710 ESPN. Danny/Dave/Moore ~ 1730 hours on 04/04.
    Let’s just say, if he doesn’t end up a Seahawk I would be surprised.
    He stated he has been told he will go between mid 2nd to mid 3rd round by multiple sources.

    He stated that JS joked with him about how he would take it getting burned covering TE or WRs….
    and he blew up the SPARQ meter (1.9z) for EDGE rushers. Very impressive athlete.

  16. Volume12

    Maybe it’s just the traditionalist in me, for sure me being petty, what is with the new unis? The Jets are garbage.

    Just keep it simple. Less is more often times.

    • CaptainJack

      They look like University of North Dakota now. Not in a good way.

      • Sea Mode

        They look like AAF to me.

        • LLLOGOSSS


    • Shadow

      The Saskatchewan Rough Riders called and want their jerseys back.

    • cha

      The number font is odd. The receiver #11 in the photos looks like “ll” which looks like the pause icon.

      Still not a bad a font as the Bucs “1980’s alarm clock” font.

    • Look Who's Hawkin?

      We. Are. Marshall. Or the Jets, can’t tell which.

  17. Volume12

    Huge fan of N’Keal Harry, but no matter where he ends up, after reading this he has a lifelong fan. Awesome stuff.

  18. Alex Higgins

    The Hawks have some pretty significant holes to fill:
    WR (Baldwin has to be replaced at some point)
    Is there any way to get more draft picks this year? Trade next year’s comp picks? I can’t think of anyone else they could parlay into draft picks. Justin Britt? (Replaced by Pocic). That seems risky on already injury-prone OL.
    Any other ideas?

    • CaptainJack

      Trade down into round 2

    • Rob Staton

      “Is there any way to get more draft picks this year?”

      Yes. Trade down.

      • Ashish

        1st trade with KC and one more trade into 2nd round will allow hawks to get more than 1 additional picks. I hope there are more players on board to have trade partners.
        I will not surprise hawks trading 5th rounder to get 6th and 7th rounders. So endless possibilities

    • Look Who's Hawkin?

      You can’t trade comp picks before they’ve been awarded. We project to get 4, but that doesn’t actually happen until after next season. And I DEFINITELY don’t want to see Pocic instead of Britt – I can’t imagine why anyone would. Pocic is fine as a versatile depth piece, but has shown he isn’t a starter. For the first season in some time, Seattle has built some continuity on the OL (4 out of 5 starters).

      All this to say, obviously Seattle would like to have more picks. The only way they are going to do that is by trading down. There isn’t anyone on their roster of value that they don’t want on the team next year.

  19. CaptainJack

    Both Cassius and Nate are likeable guys. Cassius is always fun to have on your team and Nate is a really good dude.

    As players neither are too thrilling. People on fieldgulls are saying marsh and orchard signings indicate we won’t draft edge… simply not true at all.

    • Aaron

      Yeah that’s definitely not true at all. We’ll draft a DE, maybe two. I expect them to use 2-3 picks on the pass rush and run defense.

  20. Coleslaw

    I’m digging both of the DE moves. Marsh has always done one thing well, provide speed off the edge. Having him and Martin as speedier guys will give us more flexibility in our blitzes. Have Marsh take the OT deep and have Martin stunting inside, that could cause problems for some OL. I think Marsh is a good bet to carve a role this year and actually like this signing a lot since we’re so thin at DE. We’re not as handcuffed to DE in the draft over DT now, it’s a hedge but a nice one which gives fills a necessary role if nothing else.

    Orchard was a stud in college, did ok in the pros, got hurt and hasn’t been the same. Maybe it was an injury that takes a year to heal? I dont think hes a lock to make the cut at all, but he could be a nice addition if he can get back to his old self. I think hes there to challenge guys like QJeff, Branden Jackson and Rasheem Green, with the upside of being a 5+ sack player potentially while on a cheap deal. Probably wont cost anything to cut him.

    • Look Who's Hawkin?

      Agree 100%. I think Marsh is really underrated. Obviously not a world beater, but a great rotational guy who can get after the passer. Don’t know much about Orchard except that he was a Rd2 pick. Sounds like a classic low risk, potential upside move by PC/JS, so I am all for it.

  21. Coleslaw

    I really hope we target DL and WR with our first 2 picks. The DL class is obviously worth tapping into but I really think this WR class is going to challenge the 2014 class that had Odell, Evans, Landry, Cooks, Adams, Robinson, Benjamin, Watkins and more. If we can get a Landry or Adams at 84 after grabbing a legit DL, we’ll be well set to grab a NCB, TE, DT, FB. We would only need 6 picks to get those positions.

    I think that we’re going to miss out on the top DL, and will have a chance to get one of the top WRs after trading down, so I actually think WR first might be more likely.

    Trade down to 29 with KC for 92 and 167.

    29. Parris Campbell WR
    84. Joe Jackson DE
    92. NCB
    124. Jace Sternberger TE
    159. Greg Gaines DT
    167. Alec Ingold FB

    I think we could actually have a chance at Campbell in this scenario. If the run on receivers starts at 21 and 22, then Houston, Philly and Indy dont take receivers and Oakland takes McLaurin with one of their picks, then we would be left with one of AJ Brown, Campbell or N’Keal Harry. That could be very appealing while adding a 3rd and a 5th to trade down into that spot.

    • Coleslaw

      Then theres Metcalf, Brown, and Samuel. We will likely have our choice of a few of these guys after we trade down

    • H

      I like this receiver class a lot, but it’s nowhere near 2014. Deebo would make me a very happy chappy on draft day though.

  22. millhouse-serbia

    I must say i disagree completely with this take that Seahawks are targeting nickel. They are looking for FS (and bonus is if that player can play nickel on high level).

    It is well known that Seahawks’s rookies doesn’t have big impact in first season (even if they are 1st or 2nd round picks) and that they have limited role for first 12 months.

    So it would be perfect if player who is projected as long term solution at FS, can get some on field experience in first season at position where mistakes are much less painful.

    I just don’t get why would team who doesn’t won’t to spend high pick (90th pick was the highest pick) on CB, would spent late 1st or 2nd round pick on nickel CB, position that is less valuable, less paid and is at maximu 70% of snaps on the field. Zero logic for me.

    How many nickel CB were selected in first two round in last 5 years? And now , team who doesn’t even want to spend high pick on CB will do that for nickel…no way…

    And about Pauline and Thornhill…I have listened it 3 times and I am 99% sure he ment CB and not nickel…Why?

    1. He said he play CB in his junior year…and he played outside CB not nickel…

    2. He said Juan is biggest riser among S because he can play CB…why would he separate only Thornhil if he ment slot CB (when almost everyone else can play slot and none can play outside)

    3. When he connected Thornhill with Seahawks as a CB, Tripodi said that he has short arms for Seahawks CB…and Pauline didn’t say anything against that …

    So whole dialog was about Thornhill as an outside corner, and I don’t see that it changes when ha said he think Seahawks will take him to play CB…They didn’t mention nickel or slot not even once…

    • Rob Staton

      They’re looking for a big nickel Millhouse. Pauline said he would play corner. He didn’t say outside corner. He never even touted that all — you’ve simply jumped to that conclusion.

      People have been connecting them to Byron Murphy. Nickel. Juan Thornhill — seen by many as an ideal big nickel. Chauncey Gardner-Johnson — played nickel.

      None of these players scream Seahawks free safety. They’re all better suited to big nickel.

      Doesn’t mean that is the direction they will go with their first pick but we’re just looking at the reasons why they’re showing interest in these guys.

      • millhouse-serbia

        Rob, you already know how much I respect your opinion. And maybe this is the first time I am completely oposite of your take.

        Just one more question…you agree that all those players are 2nd round guys. What is % of snaps that big nickel plays? Do ypu think they are ready to spent such high pick on that type of player?

        • Rob Staton

          Last year Justin Coleman played 68% of the snaps. In comparison, Frank Clark only played 73% of the snaps. And they just franchised him. Jarran Reed had 78% of the snaps. So the Seahawks are playing a lot more nickel in base and there’s no reason why that won’t increase in 2019. I think considering they also spent a first round pick on depth at running back a year ago — they’d quite probably be willing to spend a first round pick on a defensive starter.

          I’ll also say this. The Rams’ offense was just completely shut down in the Super Bowl with the Patriots playing multiple safeties and taking away the sweeps and misdirection. You’re not going to draft specifically to beat one team but having a larger number of hybrid defensive backs could be important to beat LA and a number of other teams going forward. That seems to be where the league is going.

          Again, I’m not saying this definitely happens with their first pick. Merely discussing why it might.

          • mishima

            I think it’s becoming a league-wide trend: more nickel / dime looks. Chargers against Ravens; Patriots against Rams.

            When needed, you have to have the speed, coverage, personnel. Can never have enough hybrid secondary / LBs.

            That said, NE will just come out with their base package and hammer you. More things change…

          • JohnH

            I agree, and not just because of the Rams. Shannahan does a lot of innovative multi-back sets, and with Kingsbury I think we can anticipate the Cardinals doing more wacky stuff out of the backfield. I think stocking up on hybrid DBs makes sense for the division as a whole, as well as the league.

      • millhouse-serbia

        And one more thing. I really don’t know anything about evaluating players. I read a lot from different internet analysts and make my conclusion. You are on the top of guys whose opinion I appreciate the most.

        And Matty Brown is another one especially for DB’s. And he has couple of great articles where he spoke about Adderley, Savage, CGJ, Thornhill etc…

        He said that Thornhill would be great fit for Seahawks FS.

  23. charlietheunicorn

    A Nickle could be more a Chancellor sized guy (or LB) and less a CB type.
    So they could draft a LB, with the intent of him being more a hybrid LB/Slot CB.
    I wouldn’t rule anyone out…… time to tinker with some new pieces and parts on the defense.

    About the only assured thing in this draft, is that Seattle won’t select a true CB early in the draft.

    • Rob Staton

      Big nickel isn’t Kam Chancellor though. Kam was a pure strong safety. A big nickel has to be a lot quicker.


        I’m curious as to how they cast their DB prospects; we have a pretty good idea of the profile for outside CB, and we can see a certain profile for who they’ve tried at nickel so far (Burley, Coleman, etc., smaller, agile, quick).

        What’s not as easy to see is how they evaluate their safeties — who is and who isn’t a safety? Who is a SS and who is a FS? Can they play “big nickel” in Pete’s scheme (to my knowledge, we’ve never employed one so far, though it was hinted at when they re-signed Browner and I believe they toyed with Pinkins there).

        McDougald has the ability to play both SS and FS, but in the past they’ve been fairly ambiguous about Thompson and Hill. Obviously, Hill seems more like a hard-hitting SS, and allegedly Thompson is more of a cover FS, but they’ve (perhaps mistakenly?) spoken about both in either role in the past.

        It was easy to tell with Chancellor and Thomas, because they were such dialectic extremes, but now with our safety corps and the prospect of adding another safety to possibly play NCB, I’m just very curious how they evaluate and project roles for these prospects.

        For instance, looking at the tape for guys like Savage, Thornhill, Gardner-Johnson, you’ve profiled them at big nickels and not necessarily as safeties. Is there a reason they *wouldn’t* profile to safety here? They are all instinctive, fly to the ball, and are physical tacklers, and in some respects they have really nice zone coverage ability. Some, like Tell, have good size as well. Yet we don’t see them as safeties.

        Is this simply a matter of need (we have an opening for a NCB)? That we truly are satisfied with the S position group as it stands currently? That NCB is now viewed as a more premium position than starting S? I understand teams are playing nickel almost 70% of the time, yet teams employ at least two safeties 100% of the time. In that respect I feel as if placing a better athlete/prospect on the field 30% less than another is counter-intuitive.

        I guess in the grand scheme, I’m wondering why a guy like Thornhill doesn’t project as a safety for us — or maybe he does in a hybrid role?

        • Rob Staton

          Tedric despite his lack of speed screamed FS. That’s why we wrote about him fairy consistently before that draft. He was a roaming space eater who took the ball away.

          With this group none play the same way. And in some circumstances they actually played full time or majority time nickel. Juan Thornhill does his best work based on what I’ve watched nearer the LOS. Not as a single high or Dee safety.

          They used Delano as a big nickel at times last season.

          • LLLOGOSSS

            Thanks for the reply

          • LLLOGOSSS

            Re: Thornhill specifically, his work nearer the LOS made me think SS. Maybe it’s a matter of conecptualizing something we haven’t really seen here, but when I think NCB I think coverage ability — and especially man-coverage ability, since from the slot a receiver has so many route options and often wins on their first release or cut at the second level. When I look at Thornhill I want him to be able to face the LOS and roar downhill, or drop back into zone on a deep backpedal. But again, it may be that the Seahawks are looking for something I have no reference for. We’ve talked a lot about the big nickel, but we’ve not seen it yet.

            • Rob Staton

              Again though — we did see it last year. They played Delano Hill a fair bit at big nickel. Delano played 44% of the defensive snaps last year and only started the last two regular season games.

              Coleman played 68% of the snaps. So Seattle went nickel in base practically all year and were very open to utilising a big nickel.

              • LLLOGOSSS

                Oh wow, I didn’t realize they were playing Delano that often there. It’s an interesting situation, since they like Thompson, Hill, and McDougald, they also like Wagner, Wright, and Kendricks (Plus Mingo still on the roster), and they seem to be interested in adding another safety hybrid/nickel player. All of these are basically competing for the snaps at one spot, will be interesting how it all shakes out.

                • LLLOGOSSS

                  I mean, Kendricks (and Mingo), one of Hill or Thompson, and whomever they draft as a S/NCB are all competing for the same snaps.

                  • Rob Staton



  24. Sea Mode

    Nagy with some ice water on the Nick Bosa top non-QB lock media narrative:

    • H

      When i clicked this I was expecting it to be about Q Williams being a better prospect, which i would agree with, was very surprised to higher Josh Allen and Sweat ranked higher…

      Bosa was dominating before his injury, have people forgotten?

      • Sea Mode

        He did clarify multiple times that Bosa is a very good player, he just likes the athletic upside of the other two a bit more at the pro level I guess.

        I just appreciate anyone who offers a different take than the draft media consensus, and doesn’t do it just to be a contrarian “hot take” for clickbait, but who has actually grinded (ground…?) the tape.

        Now after that and his ranking Haskins as QB4 yesterday, the Ohio St. fans are up in arms on Twitter calling him out for Michigan bias (even after he pointed out how much he has praised McLaurin). Whatever…

        • H

          Completely agree, I’ve loved Nagy’s perspective on the draft so far. It’s been fresh and insightful. And I completely agree with him when it comes to Haskins. I do think he may be underselling Bosa’s upside a tad though.

  25. Remington

    Rob, how similar is Jerry Tillery to Malik Mcdowell? He is a massive DT and JS has said in the past how hard it is to find guys like that. Plus he’s built somewhat similar to him. I don’t think the character questions are as big as it was with Malik. Many draft analysts say he is a freak athlete. Are they similar? His name isn’t mentioned much with draft media.

    • Rob Staton

      Tillery is not similar to McDowell at all really. McDowell was a unique player. He could play defensive end/EDGE and rush with great mobility and speed. His hand use was superb and he was a natural working the edge (he just needed to improve his repertoire). Yet at the same time McDowell spent a lot of time (too much time) playing nose tackle for Michigan State. He could anchor two blockers at 295lbs. He had the most violent one-armed bull-rush you’ll ever see. He could practically play any position on the D-line.

      Tillery has similar size and he’s a great athlete but is a lot more one-dimensional. He’s an interior guy. Not someone you send to rush the edge. I think he’ll fit best in a 3-4 at DE. I’m not sure you want him playing as a full time DT. Because while he’s very effective as a pass rusher I’m not sure about his ability to anchor and play a high percentage of early downs.

  26. millhouse-serbia

    Jim Nagy, in this video, said that while he was scouting for 2018 draft, he also learn a lot about this year class.

    And why is that interesting to me…few days ago I found his twit where he answered some guy who wrote about safeties…and that guy put Thornhill, CGJ, Rapp, Adderley, Tompson, Savage, Abram and Will Harris in group of 2nd round prospect and said after them is big cliff…

    And Nagy added Khari Willis into that group…it is interesting because he is on most sites 4-7 round prospect…and you know for who Nagy was working while got that impression on him…

    • Sea Mode

      Thanks for reminding me of this name. I was trying to remember it just yesterday.

      Like his game and leadership A LOT, but the testing numbers are just ok.

      5107, 213, 31, 74.375 wing, 9.5 hand, 4.52 40yd, 22 bench, 34.5 vert, 9.83 broad

      He’s great flying to the ball and tackling and has great ball skills as well, but he’s stiff in the hips and struggles in slot coverage. If anyone finds his SS and 3C numbers from pro day (I know he did them), let us know.

  27. McZ

    Time for another mock draft. Positions are based on rating, some market dynamics are included.

    First, picks, picks, picks…
    SEA trade #21 to KC for #29, #93, #167, #214 (Robs last scenario)
    SEA trade #29 to BUF for #40, # 112, #131 (Robs last scenario)
    SEA trade #112 to CIN for #145, #210, #213

    40 Rapp, Taylor S Washington
    The Seahawks take the best backfield general in the draft, adding lots of football IQ and some hard tackling.

    84 Grier, Will QB West Virginia
    Have been a great fan of Grier since he moved to WVU. The ultimate result type, talented AND hard working QB the Hawks need behind RW, if the shit hits the fan. If he walks in R1 or R2, they could take Oshane Ximines or Anthony Nelson. Trysten Hill IMO falls into this range, too, as well as some good WR-prospect.

    124 Saunders, Khalen DT Western Illinois
    Fantastic frame, agile, sometimes a little late to the party. Good developmental prospect at DT.

    131 Tavai, Jahlani LB Hawaii
    NFL frame gifted, agressive LB that feels like a good developmental depth pick behind KJ Wright.

    145 Haynes, Phil G Wake Forest
    One of the better run blockers in the draft, he is all about potential. Really solid frame, adds durability and high availability behind an injury plagued Fluker. Chips on his shoulders, knows his position very well.

    159 Nauta, Isaac TE Georgia
    Not exactly an Y-TE, because he wasn’t asked to do this du to his size. Well enough blocker, sure hands, quick response, maintains separation easily and is a flexible guy offering lots of scheme options.

    167 Miller, Jordan CB Washington
    Here it is, the Husky double-dip. Miller is an undersold commodity, a tall, little bit light, hard-playing press corner for outside work. Sometimes he mixes in a missed tackle, something the PC will correct in two drills.

    210 Snell, Benny RB Kentucky
    Former RB darling crashing down the big boards; grinder-style, patient, vision-driven complement to our smashmouth big guys.

    213 Hollins, Justin EDGE Oregon
    Has all the traits you want from a edge defender; is more of a steady learner than a breakout star. He is one of those guys breaking out in their third season, and you wonder how the crap that could happen.

    214 Zachaeus, Olamide WR Virginia
    What should I say… this is a late round pick, and we have to take chances. Once this guy manages to improve his catch mechanics, he is a clear and present danger WR. Plus, I would love a podcast where Rob needs to find out how to pronounce his name.

    • Tevor

      Some fresh names to checkout thanks!

  28. Georgia Hawk

    Anybody else read the article on BR about the Packers implosion?

    One thing really jumped out to me was some parallels between what happened there and what we see with RW regarding the Offense.

    *Disclaimer: I am NOT saying the Hawks are on the verge of a similar situation or anything close to it. Merely that there are some parallels to what ultimately took down GB.

    The cliff notes for the Packers was that McCarthy’s offense failed to adapt and grow with the league. They ran the same offense for so many years that opponents were calling out plays and routes before it happened. There was no misdirection, no motion, no new route combinations, etc. The Offense increasingly became a “Get Open” Offense that relied 100% on Rodgers doing something brilliant.

    Looking at the Hawks over the last few years and there are some striking similarities. Passing game is rather bland, relying on the brilliant throws of RW to really take off (that tear drop throw against KC!?!?!?!?), there is little variation in route combinations, misdirection, or motion, and teams can call the play before it happened (like THAT play). There are times that the offense devolves into Russ running around and playing the get open game (that play to ADB against AZ comes to mind). More often than not comes down to Russ being Superman. I think 2017 you could really see the similarities when there was no run game to support.

    Again, not saying the Hawks are destined for an implosion like that. As long as the running game is hopping the Hawks Offense should be fine. Hell, they were top 10 scoring offense last year. I just kept thinking as I was reading some of the comments from former players that you could easily substitute RW and the Hawks in there and not miss a beat.

    • Logan Lynch

      I read it and made a comment about it in the last piece, but didn’t get any takers on discussion so I’m glad you brought it up here.

      I see your argument, but I came away with a totally different viewpoint. Yes, you went over what went wrong with McCarthy, but another large part of the article was blasting Rodgers for essentially being an overly-sensitive and narcissistic diva. Which was kind of the rap on him floated around already, and he showed signs of that during his career with some sideline outbursts. Wilson is supremely confident in his abilities, but his personality and leadership seem much different than Rodgers.

      I would say that the pre 2018 Seahawks were much more similar to what was stated in the article, where Cable’s scheme was getting absolutely obliterated much of the time. The changes Solari and Schotty brought in (while not agreed upon by everybody) seemed to mitigate a lot of that.

      • Georgia Hawk

        Agreed. Saving grace for the Hawks is Wilson’s personality.Could you imagine if Wilson went rogue and audibled out of run plays?

        • Logan Lynch

          Or if he froze out his WR like Rodgers supposedly does? Wilson is probably the exact opposite of that. Kearse was a shining example. At least 2 of those INTs in the 2015 NFC Champ game were on Jermaine, but Russ kept feeding him and we all know how that turned out!

  29. calgaryhawk

    I don’t see anyone mentioning this so I think I will throw it out there for comments. As it stands now, the Seahawks will have extra picks next year thanks to how they have handled free agency. That’s not to say management won’t sign someone that will cancel one of the comp picks, but it doesn’t seem likely at this point. If the Seahawks see next years draft class as having overall depth equal or less than this years draft class, they could be looking to trade some of next years picks for picks this year. Often in these types of trades you trade back one round, ie. 2020 3rd rounder for a 2019 4th rounder.
    I must admit it bothers me to see mock drafts that have the Seahawks trading back two, three and more times just for extra picks this draft. Why not keep trading back until you have 15 or 20 or so 7th round picks! There’s a good reason, the better the potential of a prospect to make a team and upgrade a team, the earlier he is picked. I feel if the Seahawks get a chance to grab a player with their 1st round pick that they have rated much higher, they will. really, I can see where they do trade back, but not 2 or 3 times before picking.

    • Trevor

      I don’t think they will dip into next years comp picks to add picks this year. But I do agree with your sentiment about the Hawks missing out on better talent with the constant trade backs. In the past I have been very critical in fact.

      This year however there is such great depth in Rds #2 and #3 that I think the trade backs make sense. I think if they can turn thier 1st and 3rd round picks into 4 picks on Day #2 there is a chance they could add 4 players in Rds #2 and 3 that can come in to compete for starting time week #1.

      This is a rare year when there is quality talent from picks 20-80 so I think the Hawks will and should take advantage of that. Other years I agree if a legit 1st round talent is there when we are the board then they should make the pick.

    • Rob Staton

      1. I don’t expect the Seahawks to trade 2020 picks. They’ve had to deal with two very awkward drafts because they were, understandably, aggressive to try and win another Championship in 2017. Now that they finally are approaching a year where the opposite is the case, they’re going to hang onto those picks. Plus next years draft could be monumentally important for this team. Wilson, Wagner, Clark, Reed — all out of contract. Will Baldwin still be here? They might need a lot of those picks.

      2. I really hope people understand the reason why the Seahawks and other teams trade down. I’ve tried to explain and maybe I haven’t done a good enough job. Take this years draft for example. I have estimated there is about 10-15 legitimate first round graded prospects. Then there’s about 30-40 second round prospects. And about 30-40 third round prospects. As much as we as fans might think ‘there’s a big name player I know — why did they trade down and pass on him!’ — the reality is the Seahawks are looking at their board and seeing 10-15 players, maybe even more, with similar grades to the player you take at (for example) pick #21. So if you can move down, get a player of similar value (and maybe at a higher priority position of need) it just makes sense. This is a lot different than the scenario you present calgary which is trading down for the sake of it. There’s a rhyme and reason to all this. It’s not just about accumulating picks. But that is more important this year given the tiers in this 2019 class and the fact the Seahawks only own four picks.

      3. They haven’t really missed out on anyone significant. There’s a handful of guys you could make a case for — some of which I really, really rated pre-draft. TJ Watt, Isaiah Wynn, Leighton Vander Esch. Apart from that, you’re not talking about a ton of great players they overlooked. And as much as I liked Watt, Wynn and LVE — put either of those three on the roster and it’s a cool player you have but not a franchise changing impact.

      • GerryG

        Yeah they need picks badly, and JS spoke of how he is excited about how many they have next year.

        Earlier in this discussion Rob wrote how they could have some challenges moving back, at which I stated it wouldn’t surprise me at all for them to be aggressive with next years stock to acquire more this year.

        I’ve since changed my mind after hearing JS talk, and there was a really good article on FG recently outlining the teams and positions that could work well for Seattle to trade back with. There were numerous believable scenarios that can provide trading partners due to player/position availability.

  30. Sea Mode

    Madison Guernsey

    Former #IdahoState linebacker Joe Martin has a pre-draft workout/visit with the Seattle Seahawks on April 15.

    12:44 PM – 4 Apr 2019

    Is that our local day? He’s a 6’0″, 205 OLB…

    Joe Martin #25 Idaho State Career Highlights

    • Volume12

      That’s the local day.

      • Sea Mode

        Ok, cool. That’s what I imagined.

        NFL Draft Diamonds

        Idaho State LB Joe Martin Pro Day Numbers:

        Height 5’11 3/4
        Weight 217
        9.7 broad
        27 Bench

        8:08 PM – 27 Mar 2019

    • HawksBill

      Probably a priority UDFA. Undersized, but from the highlight film looks like he tackles low and doesn’t get carried for extra yards.

  31. schuemansky

    What about Kameron Kelly from the AAF?
    Rob mocked him in his last mock draft of the 2018 draft to the Seahawks in R5.
    Did he have a pre-draft visit with the Hawks?
    Did well in the AAF and had all the measurables last year.

  32. Volume12

    Where is Harry slow in this? He’s out running DBs the 2nd clip. That’s play speed. Notice the short area explosion.

    He works hard to get/fight over the top of DBs.

    If Seattle wants to throw more or expand the offense, they need size on the outside. The smaller receivers they have will get hurt if not.

    • Rob Staton

      The problem I have with Harry is not his ability to out-run people when the accelerator is revved. My concern is his ability to separate, be a downfield threat, run the chunk-play routes Seattle wants, win the contested catches.

      His best aspect, without doubt, is YAC. And it’s a big question mark about how that translates to the next level at his size.

      • Sea Mode

        Do you all like AJ Brown?

        • Rob Staton

          I like AJ Brown but I’m not convinced he’s a Seahawk

      • Volume12

        He was a downfield threat. Had 32 explosive plays.

        That huge, wide body is gonna be a problem at the next level in contested catch situations. Gonna have to share a safety to his side of the field leaving a lot of 1 on 1 opportunities for someone like Lockett if Seattle does end up drafting him.

        You can put him in the slot against smaller DB’s while he develops the rest of his game.

        He’s nowhere near maxed out and will continue to improve IMO. The little nuances in his game probably aren’t there because he chose football late in HS.

        • Volume12

          * shade a safety

        • Rob Staton

          How many of those explosive plays were downfield, how many were YAC?

          • Volume12

            IDK that would probably require a PFF account.

            Same thing with Parris Campbell. Didn’t see much in terms of downfield, chunk plays. Almost all manufactured. 800 of Campbell’s 1,000+ yards were YAC. Perhaps that’s what Seattle is targeting here?

            Those 2 are more similar than people realize I think.

            • Rob Staton

              I’m not sure about that man. I see very different players. Not in the sense that Campbell is miles better but different athletes, body types, catching styles, likely use at the next level. Campbell’s a bigger Percy. He ran a 4.31. Harry’s difficult to comp for. Not many guys his size are better at YAC than the usual stuff a big target excels at.

              • Rob Staton

                If they’re interested in Harry I think it’ll be his size, potential and character.

              • Kenny Sloth

                Allen Hurns comp?

          • Volume12

            That’s a category they were almost dead last in.

    • j

      It isn’t that he is slow. The flaw is he isn’t sudden. One gear only.

      • Volume12

        He’s 225 pounds. Guys that big and sudden go much earlier than he will for a reason.

  33. MaxC14

    I was curious to what people believe which players are strong enough or which positions are deep enough where a position isn’t needed early or at all in the draft. Such as do people believe that Rasheem Green can take a big enough step forward next year where DE isn’t as big a need in this year’s upcoming draft?

    • MJL

      we’re good at punter!!

    • Matt

      I definitely think Rasheem Green and Tre Flowers are primed to take the next step. Flowers really held up admirably last year. His ceiling is wholly dependent upon his ability to improve playing the football in the air. Regarding Green – I just think he has the right toolset and makeup to become a good DE. I don’t think he ever gets to be “great,” but I also think he has the potential to be good enough to be a reliable contributor/starter.

      The guys that I think need to be upgraded and I don’t expect a step forward are Shaquill Griffin and Tedric Thompson.

      David Moore is the real wild card. Had really high hopes and he showed flashes, but his disappearance later in the year was extremely concerning. The skill set is there…just needs consistency.

      While I despised the Penny pick, I think he ends up rushing for over 750 yards, even with Carson as the Primary ballcarrier.

    • AlaskaHawk

      Center, offensive tackle, defensive tackle, linebacker seems to be less of a concern now.

      Probably the only surprise there is defensive tackle. I don’t think they will draft high enough to get a game changing DT. So I think the draft chips will be spent elsewhere, and they will get a run stuffer late or in UDFA.

      I’m not sold on Lupati as a replacement for Sweezy. he is too injury prone to be considered a starter. Not sure why Sweezy left in such a hurry, I hope he gave the Seahawks a chance to match Arizona’s offer.

      • Eli

        I don’t know if you could consider him injury prone, its basically just the last two years he’s had problems and its not like they’re weird back injuries or arthritis or something degenerative that would make me worry going forward – triceps injury and MCL injury.

  34. Greg Haugsven

    I think I would be on the side that we wouldnt go after nickel early. They have been able to acquire guys like Coleman and Burley via trade, and also draft a guy like Thurmond later on. I think Kalan Reed has as good of a shot as anyone to win that starting nickel spot. He has all the short area quickness you need.

    • Rob Staton

      They might not draft a nickel first up but I’m convinced they’ll take one at some point. It just fits with this class. There’s a lot of options there. And you can get a very good player at that position.

      • JJ

        Also a draft pick would be cheaper over the next several years than bringing in someone.

  35. Austin

    Rob great stuff per usual. I have a gut feeling they go WR early and take advantage of the defensive depth later but my guess is right now they have a plan in place for all the positions listed early if it shakes out that way. I really think they need to add high end target to the receiver group for this next phase of RW’s career though. I could be a million miles off base.

  36. Matt

    Great write up Rob. You are churning out great content.

    Are there a couple players, regardless of position, that you prefer for the Hawks in this draft? Let’s disregard needs, etc…who are a few realistic options that you’d bang the table for that you think will turn out to be great players?

    Thanks for all the great work. It’s very appreciated.

    • Rob Staton

      Some of the players I’ve been banging the table for have ended up going way out of range (Kyler Murray, T.J. Hockenson, Terry McLaurin).

      I don’t want to tie myself to ‘these are my guys with their first pick’. Because I don’t see any benefit to that. I have about 50 ‘guys’ in this draft. But I think Dru Samia, Rodney Anderson if he can stay healthy, Cody Ford at guard, Trysten Hill, Daniel Wise, Emmanuel Hall and Armon Watts have a chance to play beyond their draft range — to name a handful. But I could give so many more.


        Has McLaurin drifted out of the mid-high 2nd already? Damn…

  37. Sea Mode



    RB Eddie Lacy worked out for Ravens today per source. He was out of football in 2018.

    9:47 AM – 5 Apr 2019

    • Volume12


      • Hawktalker#1

        Dunkin Donut promotional event?

    • charlietheunicorn

      I’m not going to knock the guy. He might of used the last year to get himself right. Perhaps he now relishes and appreciates the opportunity to play in the NFL more than he did in the past. When he is right, he is a force.

  38. Volume12

    McZ mentioned him in his mock draft up above, but it looks like Seattle is working out Hawaii LB Jahlani Tavai.

    • Volume12

      Wonder if they were at Keelan Doss’ pro day.

  39. Coleslaw

    I kinda like David Long for the NCB spot. I know he doesn’t have 32 inch arms but hes extremely agile, which might make up for the lack of length. He handled Deebo Samuel. 1 on 1.

  40. Nano

    I’d love Darwin Thompson. He’s Justin Forsett with sub-4.4 speed. He’s going to be a weapon for someone.

    • Eli


  41. George

    I feel like we had the same conversation with Isaiah Oliver last year. A lot of smoke, but we came back to earth with the Penny pick. Like Rob said, I think Murphy and Thornhill will be fine, but the Seahawks don’t want ‘fine’ early. We all know that. Pete is gonna take his DB later. These DE signings just smell like a trade back WR,DL,DB rounds 2-3. Rob has touched on literally everything (mad props), but my gut just screams Terry McLaurin early round 2, and DL and DB to follow. Just my two cents. Very appreciative of this site. It’s rare, detailed, and in all honesty we’re spoiled it’s free. Go Hawks.

    • Rob Staton

      I see the goal as this — talk in detail about the main possibilities and challenges early, then discuss things we haven’t previously considered. Then round it out.

  42. DCD2

    Armchair GM: Merely for fun (before anyone tells me that we won’t make our first pick at 63, or the trades won’t happen)

    Hawks trade 21, 124 to NE for 32, 73, 134 (848 value VS 853) – NE takes Hockenson as Gronk’s heir apparent
    Hawks trade 32, 134 to MIA for 48, 78, 233 (638 value VS 621) – MIA takes the last of the 5 year rookie contracts
    Hawks trade 48 to KC for 63, 92 (420 value VS 408) KC takes Paris Campbell as a Tyreek Hill hedge
    Hawks trade 84 to Rams for 94, 133, 251 (170 VS 164) Rams take Kaleb McGary as the T cliff approaches

    We now have: 63, 73, 78, 92, 94, 133, 159, 233, 251

    2:31- Tristan Hill DT – UCF
    3:9 – Will Grier – QB WVU
    3:14 – Jace Sternberger TE – TAMU
    3:28 – Miles Boykin WR – ND
    3: 30 – Amani Hooker S – Iowa
    4:31 – Ben Bonagu EDGE – TCU
    5:21 – Justin Hollins EDGE – UO
    7: 19 – Lukas Denis S – BC (4.09 SS)
    7:37 – Jazz Ferguson WR – NWSt
    UDFA – Blake Cashman LB – BC (4.12 SS:–minnesota-lb-blake-cashman)

    • DCD2

      Forgot Dru Samia. I’d take him over Hollins I suppose.

  43. Eburgz

    Now the DE market is set for Frank Clark. Y’all willing to spend 21 million a year on him?

    • SoCal12

      Honestly I’d give him the exact same offer as Lawrence’s. Not anything more though. Maybe different length or small details or whatever but 21 mil/yr is about right. Lawrence I feel like is a very fair analog and metric for Clark. I don’t think he’s worth more than him or less.

      • Greg Haugsven

        I dont know if John Schneider is going to want to spend $56 million a year on two guys. Frank Clark’s camp is licking there chops now. It may be a trade situation at that amount of money.

        • Elmer

          If I were the GM (they’re really lucky that I’m not) I would prioritize Clark, Reed, Wagner, and Wilson one through four in terms of importance to the success of the team.

          Age might be a factor in my ranking.

          I would get deals done with the first three guys. The longer you wait, the more you will probably have to pay. If there isn’t room to pay the fourth guy, so be it. I would get what I could in a trade and part ways.

  44. RWIII

    DC: Grier will not last until the 3rd round. Grier is one those guys whose stock is rising.

    BTW: New England has 12 picks in this draft. So there is a good chance they could move up.

    New Englands draft picks.
    First round: 32nd overall – original
    Second: 56th overall – via Chicago
    Second: 64th overall – original
    Third: 73rd overall – via Detroit
    Third: 97th overall – Solder compensatory
    Third: 101st overall – Butler compensatory
    Fourth: 134th overall – original
    Sixth: 205th overall – Amendola compensatory
    Seventh: 239th overall – via Philadelphia
    Seventh: 243rd overall – via Cleveland
    Seventh: 246th overall – original
    Seventh: 252nd overall – Fleming compensatory

    Bill Belichick has the fire power to move up. If he wants to target a player.

    • Jared Marshall

      Thanks for tagging Lawrence twice Cowboys…Thanks a lot.

    • Coleslaw

      Maybe if we trade with them we would get a few 7th rounders instead of a 5th.

      21 for 32, 73, 246 and 252 sounds pretty nice.

  45. Gohawks5151

    A little late to the party but I think if we can come away with CGJ at nickel and Hill at DT after a trade back we can call it a success. A tight end like Wesco (or Sample) and a receiver like Hardman in the mid rounds would be great. I can’t shake the feeling on CGJ. He can do everything and kind of reminds me of Honey Badger, who was one of the most Seahawky dudes never to play for Seattle. This current DB group lacks that playmaker Gene he has. It could be contagious if we snag him. He can slide to FS later when McDougald leaves too.

    • astro.domine

      Agreed on CGJ. We could use another baller on the back-end.
      I’d also posit Nasir Adderley for consideration. Have you watched him? Extremely instinctual and active.

      • Gohawks5151

        I’ve only taken a little look at Adderley. He looks real active. Good athlete. But I don’t know enough about his fit to the team. If he is just a pure FS and can’t hang in the nickel than they may pass.

  46. Pran

    Just draft those $20M+ positions with all the picks…damn boyz

  47. charlietheunicorn

    Ok, let’s say Seattle goes with a QB not named Grier…..

    Perhaps the guy who might fit would be Tyree Jackson out of Buffalo.
    His backstory is interesting. He also has drawn comparison to 1 former Seahawk (Yes that Dan McQuire) 1 current Seahawk…. Paxton Lynch.

    Before discounting Jackson due to his size (6’7″)….. he tested very athletic for a QB and has some small man (RW) to his game with “off football schedule” skills. He could be a target in the 4th or 5th round for Seattle.

  48. Jared Marshall

    Does anyone other than me think we’re missing a pretty big need that could be in play in the RT spot? There really hasn’t been much conversation about it, but the Seahawks do have a situation on their hands if they’re projecting more than a season out. In two months from I think today, they have to decide whether to pick up Ifedi’s 5th-year option. While we can’t pin down exactly how much that will end up being, or who will get a deal before the 2020 season, picking up that option will put Ifedi right around the second or third highest paid RT in football. He may not be awful, but his production hasn’t warranted that kind of pay; there aren’t any more snaps to be taken before the decision has to be made.

    As it stands, the 2019 tackle situation seems to be under control. The problem is you can’t say that for any subsequent years. You can pencil in Brown for the next couple years, but even he’s 33 right now. There isn’t much guaranteed money marrying him to us after this season either. Jones appears to have a pretty decent floor, and I don’t hate tbe idea of thinking of him as the heir apparent at LT (for this season anyway). The thing is, he seems like just a LT. Retaining Fant on a cheap deal was the right move, but he seems more like a swing tackle who also has a clear role that puts him on the field. Someone could easily offer him more than we will in a year too. And of course there’s Ifedi; I’m pretty sure his value to us is directly tied to being affordable. I see him a lot like Irvin — a former 1st-round pick of ours who started and held value, but isn’t worth picking up the option on, and will get more on the open market than we’ll be willing to offer.

    Part of the reason I’m bringing this up is it seems like an excellent draft for offensive tackles. There may not be those elite-tier prospects, but it feels like there are a lot of guys with starter floors. They may not be getting a ton of hype, but I have five going in the 1st round as it stands. There isn’t much sample size to go off here, but we may be seeing a pattern where the Seahawks fill the guard spots with cheap mauling veterans, and then invest capital in the tackle spots. We’ve seen how throwing rookies into the mix on the offensive line has worked out for the Seahawks in recent years; if we’re moving on from Ifedi, then bringing someone in to groom and compete this year would be the time to do it. Would it be such a shock if they grabbed one with their top pick after trading down? Maybe only because there hasn’t been any smoke to indicate it is likely.

    We’ve highlighted DE, DT, WR, and nickel/DB as needs. To me it seems like OT should be on that list as well. It seems like there are quite a few options we’ve looked at for the first four of those with the second pick if we opt for a different direction with our first. Can the same be said for OT? I haven’t looked at film for the third-tier tackles yet, so that’s hard for me to answer. That said, they’re hard to find. With our woes the last few seasons, and the well-documented decline in quality of incoming OTs into the NFL, counting on a mid-round pick this year, or a higher pick next year to be the starting RT seems dubious. Anyway, not trying to be a contrarian or anything here; it just seemed a conversation worth having. There’s rationale for drafting a tackle in the first two picks. If they do end up doing that, then they will have done a masterful job of obfuscating their intentions. It would be a good combination of talent timing, roster timing, and desire to never again suffer up front the way they did in the recent past.

    • Madmark

      There is only 4 position that I think we are alright at. QB, Punter, Kicker, and the LB corp. Ever other position needs help.

      • DCD2

        Yep, we aren’t really “set” anywhere. That being said, I doubt we’d spend one of our top picks on OL depth. Whoever we take early will need to be contributing early on, or at least in the plan to contribute.

        If we had 11 picks like next year, I think it’s more of an option. If we are talking about the most pressing needs getting addressed first, Tackle is about number 8 on the list and we only have 4 picks as of now.

    • Coleslaw

      This will be a crucial year for Ifedi. I think he can take a step forward this year. Last year I guess he did but I was really just encouraged to see him fix some of the issues that plagued him before. I’m learning towards thinking that he’s going to get another contract. He can definitely run block, we know thats coveted in Seattle.

      Other than that I really like what we have. LT is set with Brown and Jamarco Jones (I was really impressed with him last year). George Fant can play RT too, and could easily be their replacement for Ifedi while they add blocking TEs to fill the Fant role.

      OG starters are set, albeit possible injury risks. However, the depth is nice. Roos and Simmons are serviceable. Britt and Hunt are there, and Pocic can play any of the 3 interior spots.

      I’m not going to say we won’t pick OL, but I think it’s unlikely before day 3 if at all. We could take a guard early if we want to lock someone in for a few years, bbut I think it would be waste.

      • AlaskaHawk

        Whos playing right guard? And will they stay healthy for a season? Hopefully preseason will sort that out.

    • Rob Staton

      They might just re-sign Ifedi and/or Fant

  49. charlietheunicorn

    Now we have an idea of the market for Frank Clark….. 105M / 5 Years.
    Thanks Dallas Cowboys.

    • Sea Mode

      And that’s why I said many times that Frank would have no real interest in even sitting down to negotiate until Lawrence and/or Clowney got their deals done. There was a lot more pressure on the Cowboys than on the Seahawks being the second tag and given that Lawrence said he would hold out.

      Unfortunate for the Seahawks, but it was always going to happen that way.

      So now what?

      • Trevor

        Love Frank but not at $20 mil+ per year. There is no way I let him play out the year on the tag so if they can get a top 10-15 pick for him as reported I jump at that trade.

        Or bite the bullet and lock him up for the same type deal now. The price is not going down.

      • Rob Staton

        I’ll do a piece on this later but the ‘now what?’ is, sadly, Frank plays on the tag and then leaves next year.

        • Sea Mode

          Yup, I’m afraid so too.

          But they can’t say there is any way they didn’t see this coming. The CJ Mosley deal upping Wagner’s cost, ok, that came out of nowhere. But the rest has to be part of a master plan.

          That said, last time everybody panicked when they paid the LOB and Russ and thought there was no way they could pay Bobby as well, and they did it. They can keep the cap hits somewhat low on the first year of the deals, then next year we get Kam off the books and maybe Doug hangs them up too, and that’s an extra $25m in cap space right there to make it work. Add in a numerous rookie class on cheap deals, and we’re back to stars and scrubs that got us to two Super Bowls.

          My only other hope is that they sign Frank to 5yrs now same deal as Lawrence, and then the cap spikes so much with the new CBA/betting money that it looks downright cheap compared to what Miles Garrett and Joey Bosa are getting in 2 years’ time. (it will anyways…)

          All I know is: we are a much, much worse team without Frank Clark.

          • Volume12

            Cap goes up $10 mil and the league is bringing in gambling revenue too.

    • Sea Mode

      Wonder what the Cowboys are going to do at the end of this year when they have to pay Dak, Amari, and Zeke.

      BTW, holy cow, I was just looking at their top contracts and didn’t realize they had signed Tyron Smith to an 8-year deal. That’s pretty crazy; not sure why Smith would agree to that with the rising cap. It is front-loaded though, so after this year they will have him for around $13.5m/apy all the way through 2023. That number will look very good in just a year’s time, not even top 10 LT contract.

    • Aaron

      Welp…that’s over $20mil apy…yeah if Clark wants that then I’m out.

      • Sea Mode

        I mean, tbf, how is he not going to want that if that’s what Lawrence just got?

  50. Isaac

    I agree. I think 20 million for clark, 35-40 for Wilson, 15 million for Wagner, 15 million for Reed is to much to send on 4 guys. If we can get a top 15 pick for clark and possibly a third I’d take it. The Wagner deal will happen before this season. We need to start thinking about the long term. Our young core is only a couple of players. That needs to be addressed with more picks.

    • Sea Mode

      The only thing that consoles me slightly about this situation is that PC/JS have known it would be coming for a long time now and surely have a plan moving forward. Sure would be nice to have some idea what it is, though!

    • mishima

      I would take a 2 and 4 for Clark and/or Reed, this year.

      • Bigten

        Hard pass on a 2nd and fourth for Clark and reed. No thanks.

        • mishima

          Might have to settle for a pair of 3rd Round comp picks, then.

          • Bigten

            And at least another year with them. 2 3rds and having them for a little longer is better to me than a 2nd and fourth now without them. Not saying I wouldn’t trade them, just my opinion is not for that little amount.

            • mishima

              To be clear, that’s a 2 and 4 for each.

              Would love to have 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 4 in this draft.

    • John_s

      CJ Mosley is averaging $17 mil. BWagz will start there probably $18 mil/yr avg

  51. Sea Mode

    Albert Breer

    Detail on Cowboys DE DeMarcus Lawrence’s 5-year, $105 million deal …

    ’19: $25M to sign. $4.6M roster bonus (due 5/1). $1.5M base.
    ’20: $16.9M base (fully guar.)
    ’21: $17M base (injury guar.)*
    ’22: $19M base
    ’23: $21M base

    * ’21 base converts to full guarantee in March ’20.

    So Lawrence gets $48 million fully guaranteed. And $65 million is the practical guarantee, since the Cowboys would have to give him the $48 million for one year and cut him by next March to avoid paying that.

    7:17 AM – 6 Apr 2019

  52. millhouse-serbia

    So Daniel Jones is top 15 pick by Jim Nagy.

    • Volume12

      In what world?

    • Kenny Sloth

      Hopefully we see a 4 QB first frame.

  53. Volume12

    Time to get a deal done. Nothing will change his market. No need to do it in July of whatever.

    • DCD2

      I’m with you. I don’t think that’s a bad deal for a top DE in his prime, who has done everything that we’ve asked on and off the field.

      Why have the cap space if you won’t use it on a 24 year old player, who plays one of the most coveted positions in the NFL, and is a top 5 talent at it?

  54. millhouse-serbia

    “I’ll do a piece on this later but the ‘now what?’ is, sadly, Frank plays on the tag and then leaves next year.”

    This is the worst case scenario. I really hope they will not make the same mistake as with ET…

    What is the point in playing this year and then let him go for potential 3rd round pick?

    Basicaly this is:

    5% chances for SB champion + potential 3rd round pick vs 1st round pick.

    Give me 1st round pick all day every day.

    • Volume12

      The point is, they didn’t want to resign him and think he can be replaced. They got money for him and RW. Do they wanna do those deals is the question.

    • Rob Staton

      What if nobody is offering a R1?

      This is a fantastic D-line draft.

      A lot of teams might think drafting a rookie DL in this great class >>>>>> trading for Clark and paying him $20m a year

  55. Volume12

    Probably 6-7 draft picks this year, 10 or 11 next year, gotta figure they’ll bring in 20-25 UDFAs the next 2 years combined, there’s a Frank Clark sitting in there somewhere right?

    • Bigten

      I’m with you, Maybe a RW replacement is sitting in there too. As much as it Hurts to think about. (See what I did there? Haha)

  56. millhouse-serbia

    Ok, I completely understand if theybdont want to give him 20+ mil. But then trade him. Do not lose 1st round pick for basicaly nothing.

    • Trevor

      I agree unless you think the team is a legit SB contender why pay him $17 mil for one year and loose him for a 2021 comp pick. Sign or trade should be the only options.

    • Volume12

      They still could, but if Seattle thinks they’re contenders this year then you want Clark here.

      Is there a big difference between a 1st or 3rd via comp with Seattle’s track record/draft history?

      • GerryG

        A first rd pick this year, is worth waaaaaay more than an end of rd 3 pick in 2021 regardless of who the pick winds up being

        • Volume12

          Of course it is, but also not my point.

          Seattle drafts like an NBA team when it comes to their 1st overall selection. All potential or upside. In all likelihood the team wouldn’t reap the full rewards from that 1st rounder this year until 2021 anyways.

  57. millhouse-serbia

    This is.the answer on volume’s post.

  58. Trevor

    The Hawks know the market rate for the big 4

    Russ $35 mil APY
    Franks $20 mil APY
    Bobby 18 mil APY
    Reed 15 mil APY

    I think they have to just decide who they think is worth market rate and get the deals done. If they don’t want it play them the market rate then trade them for max value and move on. I don’t get why they to drag everything out like they did with Sherm and Earl to get basically nothing.

    I don’t care if they sign or trade them but just do one or the other.

    • Volume12

      They like gambling and taking risks *shrugs*

    • DCD2

      Do we think Bobby will cost that much? Is every team in the NFL obligated to overpay a position group once one franchise does it (ie Mosley)?

      Probably, but it seems like on odd dynamic.

  59. Sea Mode

    Jim Nagy

    Temple’s (via Presbyterian College) Rock Ya-Sin.

    🎙ROOT 🎙

    How early does he go?

    Jim Nagy

    Late 1st.

    8:25 PM – 5 Apr 2019

  60. Sea Mode

    I asked about the age factor a while ago, but didn’t get any reply. But here it is now:

    Jim Nagy

    It depends on the position IMO. Bigger concern for skill positions. For positions that typically have greater longevity like OL it’s not a big deal. You’ll still have them for two contracts if they are a good player.

    6:51 PM – 5 Apr 2019

  61. Volume12

    Almost half of Seattle’s roster is on rookie deals.

    J. Jones
    Griffin bro’s

    • Volume12

      Let’s say all but 1 draft pick make the roster this year and 2-3 UDFAs as well and that’s over half.

      • Trevor

        That is what they will need to have going forward if they want to sign Russ, Frank and Bobby.

  62. Trevor

    A surprisingly decent bleacher report on the Russel Wilson situation.

  63. DCD2

    Can they change Frank’s tag to the one that lets him negotiate with other teams and gives us two 1st’s if he signs?

    • Rob Staton

      Frank has always had that tag. He’s been able to talk to other teams for a number of weeks already.

      • DCD2

        Thanks Rob.. Though I imagine it’s highly unlikely that a team is going to part with two 1st rounders AND then need to sign him to a $21M contract.

        • Rob Staton

          If that was going to happen — it’d have been done by now.

  64. Kenny Sloth

    Parris Campbell with the VMAC visit

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