Senior Bowl game day LIVE thread

First quarter

The opening drive led to a touchdown for the South offense. The offensive line just flat out dominated — La’el Collins (LT, LSU), Arie Kouandjio (LG, Alabama) and Tre Jackson (RG, Florida State) just handled the North D-line, including Danny Shelton and Carl Davis. The South ran right up the middle with great success using Cameron Artis-Payne. Collins on a couple of occasions just man-handled the edge, with Kouandjio and Jackson pushing the pile up the middle. On one zone blocking look, Collins exploded into the second level after a good initial jolt at the LOS. Running back David Johnson ended the drive with a score. Shelton did well to move laterally to his left and had a chance to make the play but over-pursued the back and failed to get a finger on him. It was also an eventful start for Sammie Coates. A late throw in his direction almost led to a pick, he made a nice catch on an inside slant (ball thrown behind the receiver) and then he had a blatant OPI downfield, shoving the corner. It was probably a smart play — the DB was just about to make the pick.

The North responded with two big plays to set up a field goal. Ameer Abdullah (RB, Nebraska) showed a nice burst to get to the second level for a big gain. Charles Davis on the broadcast pointed out Abdullah had 24 fumbles in college — 17 lost. Delaware tight end Nick Boyle did a great Maxx Williams impression hurdling a defender for a first down reception. The drive stalled with Lorenzo Mauldin (DE, Louisville) dropping an easy interception of Bryce Petty. The field goal was good — 7-3.

Clive Walford (TE, Miami) had a mixed series to follow. He’s playing with a toe injury according to Mike Mayock. He made a big time catch for a first down over the middle — he knew he was going to get hit hard but completed the catch, secured the ball and fought for yardage. But on 3rd and 7 he dropped an easy catch to keep the driving going on a short route to the right side. He was open. On the punt Jamison Crowder (WR, Duke) fumbled a punt, recovered by Dezmin Lewis (WR, Central Arkansas). On review the play was called back on a dubious fair catch interference.

Kevin White (CB, TCU) is one of the better corners in this years class. With the North starting deep in their own territory, White read a slightly overthrown pass by Petty and made a smart pick. The refs called him down at the 40 — but should’ve allowed him to run it back for a touchdown considering we’re playing NFL rules (these are Big-10 refs).

Hau’Oli Kikaha (DE, Washington) just made back-to-back plays. First, he drove Ty Sambrailo (T, Colorado State) into the backfield to force quarterback Garrett Grayson out of the pocket (he ran out of bounds for a loss of two). On 3rd and 12 he burst round the edge to get into the backfield, forcing an inaccurate throw (incomplete). It’ll be tough to balance out his active hands, relentless motor and spirit compared to short arms and a lack of natural athleticism. The North take over with under two minutes left in the first quarter (still 7-3 to the South).

Owamagbe Odighizuwa (DE, UCLA) so far has struggled to get off blocks, driving the tackle backwards but failing to disengage. Markus Golden (DE, Missouri) is also struggling to make an impact rushing from the left end position.

At the end of each quarter they’re having a two-minute warning and a change of possession. It enables each quarterback to run a two-minute offense.

Nebraska’s Abdullah had a terrific first quarter. In the two-minute drill for the North he was finding space underneath and just sprinting for big yardage. He’s compact, physical and has speed to burn. Mayock keeps referencing the fumble problems — a genuine concern. The North miss a field goal to end the first quarter. Still 7-3.

Second quarter

Because the South received the ball to begin the game — despite ending the first quarter with a miss field goal, the North get the ball again to start the second quarter. Confused? You will be.

Delaware tight end Nick Boyle is blocking well to go with his earlier catch-and-hurdle. Another tight end — Notre Dame’s Ben Koyack — ran a nice route to the left side for a touchdown. The quarerback saw a mismatch with Lynden Trail and exploited it. 10-7 to the North.

Odighizuwa continues to have difficulty working the edge. I’d like to see him move inside for a series. Golden is showing a decent arc but the short arms are troublesome — he can’t use them to take advantage of initial leverage off the edge. He needs to be able to jolt the tackle and convert speed to power. He can’t and it means he’s getting run out of plays.

Blake Sims (QB, Alabama) gets a big cheer from the home crowd as he takes the field for the South. His first snap? A false start. His second leads to a nice route and catch by Tyler Lockett (WR, Kansas State) — who just looks really smooth out there.

La’el Collins is having a game — showing how to regain position when he’s in trouble and keep everything in front of him. Collins is back on the line with Kouandjio and Jackson and they continue to push people around. Danny Shelton can’t get a push against this O-line and already looks tired. He was just tossed to the ground. A busted play almost let in Henry Anderson (DE, Stanford) on the left edge. Sims avoids the pressure and gets a nice lead block by Collins for a decent gain on the ground. Nice reaction again from Collins.

Sims takes a shot downfield to Lockett, who beats USC’s Josh Shaw drawing a clear PI. It’s a 41-yard penalty. Lockett continues to look fluid with his routes — very sudden and crisp. Sims underthrew the pass badly. A good throw equals an easy touchdown. Shaw looked stiff.

The South had to settle for a field goal from close in after a Sims pass for Sammie Coates was reeled in but Coates only got one foot down. It was decent catching technique — Coates high points the ball above the defender. He just needs to learn that at the next level — it’s two feet or a knee. The field goal was missed, keeping it at 10-7 to the North.

Sean Mannion (QB, Oregon State) comes out chucking it downfield with no success. They go back to the run and Minnesota’s David Cobb breaks off a big first down run. On tape Cobb looks like a JAG part of the time and an effective cut-back runner the rest of the way. He lurches between distinctly average and pretty good. He’s having a nice game in Mobile.

T.J. Clemmings is starting at right tackle for the North, not the left. A solid review of his week at the Senior Bowl. Rather than confirm he has the tools to be a really effective left tackle — he looks resigned to being classified as a right side blocker for now. That has to impact his stock. Can he start as a rookie?

The North are forced to punt. Sammie Coates just had a potential downfield catch ripped away by Josh Shaw — a better play from the USC DB after the earlier big PI call.

Blake Sims is doing a great impression of Russell Wilson — scrambling around and trying to make plays. On this occasion he can’t and it leads to a quick three and out. Jamison Crowder — who was lucky not to give up a fumble on a punt return early — drops another punt but recovers and runs for a short gain. Kansas State’s Lockett — already impressing as a receiver — made the special teams tackle. He’s making a big impression today.

So is Nebraska’s Abdullah — who breaks off another big gain with a lovely jinking run to get us to the two minute warning.

Nick Boyle just made his first bad play of the day — dropping a superb throw by Mannion that should’ve been caught for a big gain. Excellent placement on the pass, right over the shoulder. Spilled. Mannion doesn’t hold a grudge and goes right back to Boyle on the next two snaps — one caught, one dropped. Boyle showing some inconsistency here.

Vince Mayle (WR, Washington State) shows strong hands to grab a key third down conversion on a short route to the right side. After another good run by Abdullah, Preston Smith (DE, Mississippi State) demolishes T.J. Clemmings to sack Mannion and force a fumble (recovered by the offense). Clemmings’ technique is all over the place — he’s too high, he’s not using his hands. It’s too easy for Smith who uses an inside move. Mannion also takes far too long to get the ball out. Mayock points out Clemmings’ lack of experience.

On third down with 13 seconds left in the half, Mannion takes a shot to the corner of the left end zone to Devin Smith. The ball is underthrown but Gunter the Miami corner doesn’t turn his head round. It’s PI and the ball’s at the one. A throw to Abdullah from Mannion is caught short of the line and with the North out of time outs, it’s half time and 10-7.

During the break, the NFL Network showed some ‘mic’d up’ footage. Gus Bradley is a fun guy. I think he took a shine to Sammie Coates who was also having fun out there. You can’t help but root for the Jags turning it around in 2015.

Third quarter

The South begin the second half with the ball. Tyler Lockett — perhaps the most impressive player so far — makes another eye-catching play. Quinted Rollins (CB, Miami, OH) should get an interception here, but he loses concentration and tips the ball kindly towards Lockett — who taps his toes to make a big first down. Ty Sambrailo is playing left tackle but screams guard. Danny Shelton looks gassed and makes way early for Carl Davis, who so far is penetrating into the backfield consistently. On tape he struggled to do this (Mayock makes this point on the broadcast) but he’s taken his game to another level in Mobile. The big question is — why wasn’t he doing this more often in college?

Nate Orchard missed a tackle to make a sack on what became a field goal drive for the South to tie it at 10-10. Orchard stayed home on a play action, read the play but failed to tackle the quarterback. UCF receiver Rannell Hall made an excellent downfield grab — leaping over a defender using body control and ball skills. Catch of the day so far.

Mayock reveals a list of potential first rounders playing at the Senior Bowl. Miami wide out Phillip Dorsett is listed. Interesting. We’ve not seen any Dorsett in this game so far.

The North take over and Gabe Wright (DT, Auburn) begins the drive with a fantastic play — knifing through the interior line and stuffing the running back for a loss.

The quarterbacks are having a really rough time of it today. A real lack of talent out there in this game. Markus Golden has his first play of note — jumping offside on first down.

Max Garcia (G, Florida) had a great week of practice and just had a tremendous block to spring a run for Cobb. On the next play Antwan Goodley (WR, Baylor) makes a nice grab on the sideline. He looks awkward but that’s his second good catch in the game.

Markus Golden is officially struggling. He just got easily blocked out of a play by Yale running back Tyler Varga. The North drive stalls but they kick a field goal to re-take the lead 13-10.

After a bit of research, it appears Phillip Dorsett isn’t playing today with a knee injury.

Devin Smith just hammered Rannell Hall on a kick return. Urban Meyer praised Smith’s gunning abilities and we saw it there. Excellent clean hit that had the Titans coaches on the sideline whooping and cheering. Hall recovered to make a really nice low sideline grab for a first down (Brian Bennett is now the quarterback). Mayock and Davis praise Hall for his week in practice — and we see a number of highlight reel grabs from the week. He’s worth another look after today.

Bennett just threw a terrible interception to Quandre Diggs (CB, Texas). It’s a nice play by Diggs, reading the QB’s eyes from the nickel spot. But it’s so basic from the quarterback — staring down the receiver all the way. David Cobb turns it into six points for the north, with Tyler Varga acting as a lead blocker on the play. It’s 20-10 to the North. Interestingly, T.J. Clemmings lined up at left tackle on that play.

The South take over again but Bennett throws another pick. Quinten Rollins, who muffed a pick earlier, makes a great play on the ball on a downfield shot. Fantastic play. Mayock raves about him afterwards. He’s 6-0 and 205lbs. Mayock: “He has the skills, if he runs fast enough, to be a very special corner.” He adds long speed is a concern, but if he’s in the 4.5 range he could go in the second round — otherwise a move to safety is imminent. He played point guard in Basketball before switching to football.

The end of the quarter beats the North team despite the pick. They’ll receive the ball to start the fourth after a kick-off.

Fourth quarter

Tony Lippett — who’s had a quiet game — tries a pass on a trick play. Over throw to Ty Montgomery, who’s also been anonymous. Varga, who looks like he could be a mobile pass-option full back if not a running back, makes a play underneath to get the North’s drive rolling. Clemmings continues to play left tackle. Bryce Petty is back in the game and finds Vince Mayle for another nice play for 27 yards. Mayle’s having a good game. Varga finishes the drive with an untouched scoring run. Jamil Douglas (G, Arizona State) and Clemmings with the key blocks. 27-10 to the North.

Garrett Grayson back in at quarterback for the South. He starts with a nice timing pass to Lockett who again, has probably been the most impressive player in this game. On the next catch Dezmin Lewis makes a nice catch and run in traffic. The broadcasting crew credit Mayle for the catch — even though he’s playing for the North team.

Oregon State corner Stephen Nelson is quietly having a nice game. He’s playing in the slot — 5-10 corner. Grayson goes for it on 4th and 6 and Lewis of Central Arkansas makes another fantastic catch to the near sideline. Gets up above Josh Shaw who is in a bad position. Lewis impressing here. Interesting prospect with size. The drive stalls after that and the South kick a field goal for 27-13.

Mayock briefly discusses Ty Sambrailo — a player Seattle has interest in according to Tony Pauline. Mayock says he needs to get stronger. Pauline also claims the Seahawks like San Diego State’s Terry Poole.

Sammie Coates is done for the night with a groin injury.

The North take over again with Sean Mannion back on the field. Markus Golden gets his first pressure of the night, but Mannion still makes a short completion to Justin Hardy. Golden then makes a TFL getting the running back down in the backfield. Still, not a night to remember for Golden, but he’s not alone. Very few defensive linemen have impressed in this game.

Mayock is signing the Yale fight song with two minutes to go, as Tyler Varga takes another carry. Off the back of the two minute warning, he scores another touchdown — so we get a second rendition. Charles Davis joins in. 34-13 North.

Blake Sims closed out the game and Dezmin Lewis made another low catch. He’s had a good day — nice size, body control and hands. Damarious Randall (CB, Arizona State) drops a pick that hits him right in the chest. What a miserable night for quarterbacks. The game ends 34-13 in favor of the North.

Closing thoughts

Even with the usual withdrawals, there’s at least four or five obvious first rounders at the Senior Bowl. Not this year. The game was a bit of a damp squib. It was poor. The running backs stood out thanks to some decent offensive line play — but it was mostly a disappointing night for the D-linemen.

I’m still struggling to grasp the media love affair with Danny Shelton. I get his qualities (fantastic strength at the point, lower body power) but Mike Mayock can’t mention Shelton’s name without stating “top ten pick”. He didn’t play that way today and tired quickly (as he did in practice). Carl Davis flashed a few times, but his tape is average compared to he way he competed in Mobile. How good is he, really?

Owamagbe Odighizuwa struggled to rush the edge and never had an opportunity inside. Hau’Oli Kikaha was quiet. Nate Orchard made a couple of plays in pursuit but didn’t stand out as an edge rusher. Markus Golden didn’t have an impact.

La’el Collins on the other hand was impressive at left tackle. It’s hard to imagine he’ll get out of the top-20, even if he has to move to guard. The most impressive player in the game outside of the running backs (Varga, Abdullah, Cobb, Johnson) was Kansas State receiver Tyler Lockett. He looked smooth, crisp and made several impressive grabs. Dezmin Lewis also had a decent performance. Quentin Rollins impressed at cornerback and will be one to watch at the combine. T.J. Clemmings has all the physical tools you look for, but he struggled with technique again here. He’s very raw. Is he too raw for the first round?

Ameer Abdullah was named game MVP.

141 Comments

  1. bigDhawk

    Nice. Was hoping we’d have one.

  2. Tim

    Excited to see what are most of the top prospects playing against each other. My focus will be on the WR and DE positions. Who are the most Seahawky playing in the game today?

    • Rob Staton

      I’m most interested to see Nate Orchard, OWAMAGBE ODIGHIZU, La’el Collins, Phil Dorsett, Devin Smith. Few others.

      • Volume 12

        I like WR Devin Smith, but he appears ‘heavy footed.’ When describing him this week NFL.com’s Daniel Jeremiah said ‘Just go deep. Go deep.’ Although, every draftee has his flaws. No such ting as the perfect prospect.

      • bigDhawk

        Orchard had a good pursuit tackle on the end-around to Lockette.

    • Mark

      I was hoping Lockett would be a mid-round steal to shore up the special teams next year. I don’t see him making it to the end of the thrid round now. I thought Varga had a good game, but would much rather see a healthy Coleman return.

  3. bigDhawk

    No thanks on Coates. He doesn’t look like he entirely wants to be here. South OL looking dominant with Collins, Williams, etc.

    • Volume 12

      Big, big fan of Oklahoma OL Daryl Williams. Needs to get his weight down about 8-10 pounds, but damn, that dude just has that ‘pissed off for greatness’ vibe about him that so many of our Hawks play with.

      • bigDhawk

        I like that entire OU OL, on paper at least.

  4. Volume 12

    I know this has nothing to do with today’s Senior Bowl, but I found it exciting. JS said that priority no. 1 this off-season is to re-sign CB Byron Maxwell. I know it’ll be hard to do, but JS said they want the first crack at him, and stating he’s a priority is starting off on the right foot at least. Wouldn’t surprise me at all if Maxi takes a discount to stay.

    • Tim

      Extend Max & Wagz and let the D dominate for the next half decade…

    • MJ

      I agree. And honestly, I think we have our formula. Lock up as many core defensive guys as possible and let them flourish for as long as possible. Spend a majority of our draft picks on offense. If you happen to land a real difference maker on Offense, then you adjust down the road when it comes to resign that guy. Otherwise, I think RW can flourish with a few #2 WRs, strong running game, and a reliable TE.

      • Tim

        Agreed MJ – essentially just posted the same below.

      • bigDhawk

        I’ll keep hammering this but Okung has never played consistently like the franchise LT he he is going to be paid as. I’d rather have inconsistency from a cheaper player like Bailey until we find a solution long term. If we have to choose between Okung and a player like Maxi or Wags, let Okung walk.

        • Rob Staton

          Cannot agree here big D. For me Okung is a good (not great) left tackle. But those guys are tough to find. I doubt it comes down to Wagner or Okung, I think you can keep both. And this team has shown a genuine ability to develop corners. I would urge caution on anyone wishing for life after Okung.

          • Coug1990

            I agree. When healthy, Okung is one of the best left tackles in the NFL. The problem is that he is seldom healthy. If there is a way to keep him, I think the Seahawks have to sign him again. I think a lot of people still somewhat compare Okung to Walter Jones. But, there is not any current lineman that is even close to him in the NFL today.

          • bigDhawk

            I guess my point is that, by your own admission, Okung is just a good LT, but he will be paid like a great LT. If paying him like a great, franchise LT costs us Maxwell, I’d rather move on from a merely good Okung. I agree franchise LTs are tough to find, and my contention is that, with Okung, we still have not found our franchise LT.

        • Adog

          Baily looked like a turnstile at rt last week. He had looked good at spot duty at left tackle, so last week was surprising.

    • Ho Lee Chit

      Taking a discount is what everyone said about Golden Tate. At the end of the day these guys have worked long and hard in the weight room to get where they are. Now they have a couple years to cash in and set themselves up for life. Taking a discount doesn’t fit with that career plan. I don’t know anyone that would offer a discount to stay with their current employer when much better money is available else where.

      • Volume 12

        Michael Bennett rings a bell.

        • Kory

          Avril took a team friendly deal. Zach Miller took a pay cut to stick around.

    • Rob Staton

      I think the quote was it’s a priority to talk to him — while admitting he’ll get a lot of interest in the open market. I hope he stays, but he’s probably going to be too costly for Seattle. He’ll get paid big time, probably by Jacksonville.

      • bigDhawk

        If Maxi walks we are going to take our lumps with Simon starting next year. I’m not sold he is ready to take the reigns opposite Sherm yet.

        • Volume 12

          He was playing well with Maxi in the slot before he dislocated his shoulder. With a full off-season as a starter, if he is, and with Sherm’s guidance and mentorship, I wonder if we may have the next Brandon Browner on our hands. Younger and more athletic though.

          • Coug1990

            I agree with you. He had played well before he dislocated his shoulder. Just look at the last game against GB, how many players were subpar before the end? Quite a few. Sometimes a bad game is just a bad game and not indicative of future performance.

        • Rob Staton

          I wouldn’t bet against them finding another guy. We discussed Damian Swann this week as an option. If they can find the best cornerback in the NFL in round five, Browner in the CFL and Maxwell in round six — I’d back them to find a replacement in an unorthodox fashion.

          • Volume 12

            Oh I didn’t mean they will be satisfied with just Sheri, Simon, Lane and Burley next year if it comes to that (more than likely).

            I agree and also think they take another CB. It’s the one position I think we can all guarantee they’ll address every year, regardless of who they have.

            • Volume 12

              Should say Sherm not *Sheri

      • CC

        Maxi is a good CB – but he still makes a lot of mistakes. He probably gets picked on more due to Sherm being on the other side, but any corner that is playing in that spot will be tested and will make those same mistakes. I like Maxi, but if he gets – likely – and takes big money elsewhere, I think Simon can get better and take his place. I have faith that Kris Richard can make every CB a good one. Heck, Burley came in and played okay with no training camp.

        • Volume 12

          Let’s just hop DB coach Kris Richard doesn’t join Dan Quinn as his defensive coordinator down in Atlanta.

          • Volume 12

            Oops! Never mind, looks like it will be former Tampa Bay Bucks HC Raheem Morris.

  5. bigDhawk

    Wow, Boyle goes MaxxMode with that hurdle there.

    • Volume 12

      Delaware TE Nick Boyle is very interesting, HOUSE has been pounding the table for him all week long.

  6. MJ

    Not just a reaction to his TD, but I’ve spent more time watching David Johnson, RB UNI. Wow…very, very intriguing guy.

    I don’t say “wow,” in the sense that he physically blows you away. But his pass catching ability in that big of a body is very, very intriguing. His burst is modest, but his long speed is quite good for a 230 lb guy. I’m not sure he is a feature back, but man, for a mid round RB, he could be really enticing for the Seahawks. I just think he looks like a guy who could be a 3rd Down Monster for a creative OC. Big/Fast enough to run for a 1st down, while being good enough to motion into the slot. Not sure there are many LBers who can line up with him.

    Rob – Any thoughts on David Johnson?

    • Volume 12

      Will he fit in a ZBS? From what I’ve seen, doesn’t move well laterally.

      • MJ

        I was thinking the same thing, until watching this drive. Really intriguing guy. Little more juice than I previously thought.

    • bigDhawk

      He’s having a good showing so far. Has a little LeVeon Bell to his game.

    • Rob Staton

      Seeing him for the first time today. Intrigued to see more after this.

      • peter

        His tape is a bit meh, mostly because n. Iowa plays Iowa in those ultra mismatched intra state games. Has really good production as far as total yards and frankly would have best been served by my opinion losing a mere five to ten pounds and being an extremely strong point of attack wr….i honestly think he has the best hands of any of the rbs in this draft.

  7. Volume 12

    Personally I’m really looking forward to Duke WR Jamison Crowder and Miami WR Phillip Dorsett as well. Both seem ‘Seahawky’ to me.

    • Hay stacker509

      Crowder isn’t going to win many fans with fumbling returns, no offense.

      • Volume 12

        Wasn’t it a fair catch interference?

        • Hay stacker509

          My local bar a bunch of us decided to go and watch it isn’t playing it and I just got an update saying he fumbled and Mayle recovered. You could very well be correct

        • Ho Lee Chit

          It was but it bounced off his pad up into the air. By rule, the returner gets to double catch and the defender was in his way. That isn’t going to work. The muff part was not impeded.

          • Matt

            Crowder muffed that one, which would’ve been a fumble if not for that obscure fair catch rule, and bobbled another punt. He established that he’s not a very reliable return man in this game. That’s about it. He does look fast though.

  8. Tim

    Except for a stud DE pass rusher is available, I’d like to see us target Offense early in the draft. WR, TE, and OL studs. Help Russ out with some more weapons and protection. All three areas could also use some depth. Based on the great depth of this draft in these areas I’m wondering if a trade back makes sense again?

    • MJ

      IF they could modestly trade back and somehow, land Maxx Williams and Philip Dorsett, I’d be all for it.

      Totally agree with you. Splurge in the draft on offense to help RW, unless a stud pass rusher somehow falls to us…entirely possible considering the depth of the draft. Would not shock me if one of Beasley or Harold slipped to us, simply because they are unique Pass Rushers who don’t fit a lot of teams, physically.

      • Volume 12

        Regarding Beasley. Where would he line up? Seems a little small to play with his hand in the dirt and we already have Bruce at the SAM position, but I would absolutely love Vic Beasley. He could be the ultimate chess piece for PC.

        • Rob Staton

          I’m starting to wonder if Beasley could develop into a Jamie Collins type player for a team.

          • MJ

            Agreed. I was thinking Bruce Irvin…interesting thought.

    • Volume 12

      If I was a gambler, which I’m absolutely not, I’d put all my chips on Seattle trading back again.

      This will be an offensive heavy draft for us this year. We’ll still take 3-4 prospects on the defensive side. But RW really needs a couple weapons and the OL need some depth. Of course this is all speculation on my part.

  9. Tim

    There are some interesting smaller receivers in this draft – Dorsett, Crowder, Lockett. I wouldn’t be shocked if the Hawks took one early instead of the big wideout. Add a burner that can also help contribute on ST and returns. Remember they took PRich last year and were also very interested in Brandin Cooks. Any others more this type that I’m missing?

    • Volume 12

      USC WR Nelson Agholor. Although he’s not in this game.

      I agree Tim, I too think Seattle will add the small, explosive, burner type at WR this year.

      I’ll keep pounding the table for Duke’s WR Jamison Crowder. Love this kid. His little brother has down syndrome, he plays gritty and with a chip on his shoulder, Duke’s HC David Cutcliffe always send good prospects to the NFL. I could really see WR Crowder and RW being close and forming a true connection.

      • Tim

        Devin Smith form OSU fits as well although he is pretty good sized. Crowder is starting to grow on me…where are they mocking him currently?

        • Volume 12

          He could land anywhere from rounds 2-4 currently.

    • Ho Lee Chit

      Ty Montgomery is a second round guy we may be interested in. He does it all and has the Stanford pedigree.

      I Crowder muffs another punt in the Senior Bowl his Seahawk prospects are over. ET got bounced from the PR duty after only two muffs. You have to have sure hands in the KR, PR role. Crowder and these other small WR’s are only going to make the Hawks if they can fill the returner duties better than Bryan Walter’s does.

      • MJ

        I absolutely love Ty Montgomery as an athlete, but he’s pretty brutal at WR. I wonder if Montgomery could ever become a RB/Return specialist? He is just not a very natural WR for a guy with a lot of experience.

        • Michael(CLT)

          Montgomery is undraftable for me. Struggles to separate, poor hands, and does not show a passion for the game. No thanks.

  10. bigDhawk

    QBing is deplorable in this game.

    • Tim

      Totally…

      • Tim

        Blake Sims has looked the best so far….maybe a late round target by the Hawks to be a down the road back-up to Russ?

      • bigDhawk

        LT Donovan Smith #76 from Penn State looks really solid. I do not want to pay Okung franchise LT money at the expense of letting a core defensive player walk so any chance to replace him I’m all for.

        • bigDhawk

          Woops, reply fail. Meant to be a new post.

        • Michael(CLT)

          Agree

    • Rob Staton

      Horrendous.

  11. Tim

    Really like David Cobb – nice feet and pretty nifty for a 230 lb’er.

    • bigDhawk

      He definitely shows an ability to read holes and cutbacks in a ZBS. He looks good.

      • Matt

        Cobb showed some good elusiveness out there. He looks like a solid mid round guy.

        Artis-Payne solidified his standing to me. I think he’s the 5th best back in the draft behind Gordon, Gurley, Coleman and Josh Robinson.

    • Michael(CLT)

      Agree. Great burst and vision.

  12. Volume 12

    A couple guys have really stood out for me.

    1. K-St WR Tyler Lockette- Was not a big fan of his coming into this week, but he’s firmly making me a believer and eating some crow. Your right Rob, he’s very smooth. Guess he learned a thing or two from his old man. Consider me in the camp of a few on this blog who really like Lockette.

    2. Hobart OL Ali Marpet- This dude is just nasty. Don’t know a whole lot about him, but he has some nice functional strength. Love the edge he playa with on the line. Could be a steal, and I’d expel t if Cable got his hands on him, he’d do wonders with this kid.

  13. Volume 12

    Rob, you bring up a very telling/interesting point that caught me eye here as well.

    Auburn WR Sammie Coates just seems to enjoy the game so much. Sounds familiar right? PC stated all the way back in his opening press conference when he was first hired, that he wanted guys who played the game the right way, and that was ‘guys who love it and look like their enjoying themselves or having fun out there.’ His size, freakish athleticism, potential, and his back-story are so damn appealing. His potential is sky high and he’s just such an easy guy to root for.

    • bigDhawk

      I get the exact opposite impression of Coates. He looks little whiny and pouty and doesn’t appear to play with a ferocious edge. He seems seems a bit of an entitled primadona if the play doesn’t go his way and I have not seen the extra competitive gear to beat his opponent if his primary gear is not enough.

      • Volume 12

        He’s raw no doubt about it, but he may have more potential than any prospect in this game.

    • Rob Staton

      He’s having a lot of fun out there. Would love to see him make a big play.

    • Michael(CLT)

      I would steer clear. He is not a well coordinated wideout.

  14. Tim

    Lockette has been impressive today – great bowl game as well. Worried that the measurables check out but he has great hands, good routes, and an excellent return man. I’d be happy bringing him into the mix.

    • Volume 12

      Regarding the measurable aspect. IMO you just have to live with the fact that 9x out of 10 these smaller WRs aren’t going to have huge hands, arm length, or a gigantic wing span. It’s kind of the nature of the beast, so to speak.

      The thing I like about these smaller wideouts is obviously the speed and explosiveness, but the smooth route running, the subtle little moves at the top of their stem and the chopping of the feet, their versatility, and maybe most important, most of them seem to have that chip on their shoulder and competitive fire you can’t teach due to being told their too small all the time,

      • Tim

        More concerned that he runs a 4.55 40 or worse at 5’9″ or less….he looks pretty fast on game tape but you never know.

        • Matt

          Lockett was easily the most polished WR in this game. His 40 time might not be great(I’m expecting sub 4.5), but this kid just gets open. I’ve been talking him up for awhile now, but he surprised even me with this fantastic performance! We didn’t get much of a chance to return kicks and punts, but rest assured he excels in this aspect of the game as well. Throwing in his gunner skills makes Lockett even more valuable to a team. The announcers talked about versatility and being able to help on multiple units being a premium these days. Lockett can help on 3 of the 4 special teams units. He really improved his stock today. I’m thinking round 2-3 right now 1 month before the combine.

  15. Volume 12

    Regarding WR Phillip Dorsett. I’m crossing my fingers for this kid, that he didn’t tweak his MCL that has gave him some problems in the past.

    • Rob Staton

      Fingers crossed.

      • Volume 12

        Disappointing game in general. I will say this though, IMO the majority of the scouting was done before today during the week of practice and one-on-one’s.

        • Rob Staton

          Absolutely.

        • Michael(CLT)

          I found the game highly entertaining. Interesting perspective.

  16. Tim

    Great ST hit by Devin Smith…Urban said he was a ST demon and a great gunner. Adds to his value especially to us. I’d like to see him involved in the returns this game. Intriguing.

  17. Dan

    Very impressed by Donovan Smith at LT. Rarely even gave up a pressure. Owa, who I’m a fan of too, couldn’t do anything against him. Will he be there at the end of Rd2?

    • Volume 12

      There was a ton of buzz on Penn St OL Donovan Smith earlier in the year. If he tests well at the combine I think he goes anywhere from a mid first to early 2nd. Rob gave us some insider info from Tony Pauline, check out OL Terry Poole. He’s very exciting and seems to have the character or big personality that Seattle likes. I don’t know that Donovan Smith does.

      • Dan

        I missed the buzz on Smith. Thought he played great today against some quality competition. I need to look in on Poole. Haven’t seen him play.

    • bigDhawk

      Completely agree on Smith. He looked tremendous in pass blocking at least. If we can trade back into the early/mid second round and get him he would be a steal.

  18. Volume 12

    A couple thoughts here:

    1. UCF WR Rannell Hall is damn intriguing. May be another WR to add to my ‘favorite’s’ list. Plays with swag and is described by a few different websites as ‘gritty.’ Hmm? Some say he isn’t a fantastic athlete, but anyone who’s a former track and field star is an athlete or highly athletic in my book. Really starting to like this kid. Has a great physique as well. Kind of looks ‘Seahawky.’

    2. Speaking of looking ‘Seahawky.’ Has anyone see any photos or footage of San Diego St aka Whale’s Vagina St (LOL, a joke for movie buffs) OL Terry Poole? Holy shit, I don’t know if I’ve ever seen any O-lineman with a lower half like his. The description. ‘tree trunks’ wouldn’t do him justice. He’s a former JUCO guy and seems to similar to OL James Carpenter. May have to dig into him Rob, at first glance he seems really exciting. Thanks for the inside info on him by the way.

    3. Colorado St OL Ty Sambrailo. He seems pretty underwhelming to my eye, but he is an incredible athlete (former ski champion?), moves pretty well, but I suspect Tom Cable likes the nastiness and edge this guy plays with. OL Terry Poole seems like the better fit of what little I know of him.

    And Central Arkansas WR Dezmin Lewis is interesting as well. Good build, length, and a natural hands catcher.

    • Volume 12

      Seems so similar to Carpenter not *to similar. Damn this auto-correct!

    • Dan

      Agree on Sambrailo. Haven’t been impressed any of the times I’ve watched him. Probably just not strong enough yet, but gets knocked off balance too much.

      Time for me to watch some Terry Poole. Sounds intriguing.

      • Volume 12

        Yeah, he’s definitely intriguing, He’s also a former basketball player and was a RT and LT for the Aztecs. What an athlete!

        • peter

          Poole I’m intrigued by but sambrailo is a JAG….just my opinion but he could a lot of run in the press at these practices. Frankly part of me is curious as to what could be gained by picking sambeailo in the currently projected second round….does Britt take baileys spot? Do we east a pick for rt competition after a year of Britt? Poole as a guard to replace carp…okay…but is the line really improved in this fashion?

          • Volume 12

            OL Terry Poole could also back up OL Justin Britt at RT as well. Seems like Seattle may be looking to replace what they thought they had in OL Michael Bowie.

    • bigDhawk

      Hall definitely acquitted himself today. I’ll be interested to see his measurables at the comibne. After watching his video against NC Poole reminds me a little of my man-crush from the 2014 draft, Billy Turner. Like Turner he has good punch and a nasty streak, but plays a bit upright.

      • Matt

        Lewis made 2 catches that made him look like a future Seahawk. The first one Rob described Lewis high pointed the ball over a 6’1/2″ CB Josh Shaw. Best catch of the day! The next play I forget who was QB, but the QB scrambled to his right to avoid the rush. Lewis ran back to the QB tiptoeing the sideline getting himself open. Made a nice hands catch with both feet in bounds. These are the types of plays that we ask our WR’s to make and Lewis can make them. Another WR to keep an eye on when the combine comes around.

      • Volume 12

        That’s actually a really good comp there bigD. Now that you say it, OL Poole does have a little Billy Turner and look to his game doesn’t he?

    • David M2

      Gentlemen Agree to Disagree

      • Volume 12

        So far David, your the only one who got my inside joke. Thanks buddy.

        • David M2

          No problem,

          If they all click on the link I provided above (that last post is a link), they will understand and maybe feel like they’re in a glass case of emotion…

  19. peter

    Gentle men my bad on the auto correct.. I meant to say he was getting a lot of run in the press this week and none very good…and its not “east a pick,” but “waste a pick.”

  20. HOUSE

    My prediction for our 1st rd pick…

    DL: With the injury to Mebane, Hill stepped up and played valuable time that showed us exactly what he was drafted to do. When Hill went down, T. McDaniel & K. Williams both have had to play some productive minutes McDaniels has one more season on his contract and Williams could retire. J. Williams, someone I was hoping would have a big year ended up on the IR (back to back seasons). I don’t see too many FA DTs that we could go after.

    I’m not a huge fan of Shelton and know he wouldn’t be available for SEA @ 31/32. I know we talked about Grady Jarrett and I think Jordan Hill already fills that role. Carl Davis impressed me. He has the size of McDaniels/Williams 6’5″/320lbs and is disruptive.I think with talks of him possibly becoming a 1st rd pick, He might be available to us.

    I’ll write about some different positions of need, but right now it’ll just come out as excessive rambling…

    • Kory

      I think PCJS look to get established vet DT’s on smaller contracts. With our rotation, I don’t think we’re looking to invest in a 3 down DT. I think they rely more on rotation and wouldn’t invest in a DT that early.

      Unless a stud DT or DE comes our way, I can’t see anything other than offense.

      • Volume 12

        They’ll definitely take 1-2 D-lineman in this draft, but as for going offense the whole time, I’d say no way. With PC as our head coach and maybe not needs on the defensive side of the ball, but more upgrades, he’ll pull the trigger on at least a couple prospects.

      • Matt

        Davis impressed all week. He can collapse the pocket and shows surprising burst off the line, especially at his size 6’4.5″ 321lbs 34.5″ arms. Who knows what going to happen with the both Williams’ and MeBane. With Mcdaniel only having 1 year left on his contract I’m not ruling out taking a DT with our first pick. Davis would be a great fit for our defense!

    • Rob Staton

      Always appreciate excessive rambling House!

      Personally, I think they’ll continue to look at the middle rounds or second wave FA’s for D-line help. The defense has been able to thrive using that approach to this date. And we should see Mebane and Hill return, plus Cassius Marsh.

      • Volume 12

        I’m with you Rob, in regards to the D-line. The only DT as of now that I’d pull the trigger on early would be Oklahoma’s Jordan Phillips or Clemson’s Grady Jarrett. There’s some good mid to late round/depth guys in this class.

        As for the DE-LEO position, unless an incredible prospect is sitting there, I think Seattle will take a high upside and high potential speed rusher in the 3rd or the 4th at the latest.

        • Rob Staton

          I think any prospective LEO has to have a great 10-yard split, length, production, grit. There are guys who tick some of the boxes, I’m just not sure there are guys who tick all of them. And will it be a priority to add another edge rusher in R1 for rotational purposes? Can they find that guy in the middle rounds? Those are the kind of questions I’d be asking.

    • Ho Lee Chit

      I like Carl Davis. He would be a good fit for our team. We probably need to use our first round pick to get him. We have a good group on the D Line if they are healthy. IMO, the return or retirement of Kevin Williams and health of Jesse Williams will dictate what they do there. If KW re-signs for another year we could go DT later in the draft. It is our oldest position group and needs some youth.

  21. Michael(CLT)

    Carl Davis, Nate Orchard will be in play for Seattle.

    • Rob Staton

      I like Orchard but have major reservations he’s going to go as early as people are thinking. He needs to show he has that great burst with a good ten yard split to have a chance to be the next Marcus Smith.

  22. Michael(CLT)

    The disdain for Shelton is surprising on this board.

    • Rob Staton

      Just calling it how I see it. It’s not ‘disdain’, just a different take. If he’s Haloti Ngata at the next level I’ll be the first to admit I’m wrong. I don’t think he will be. He has a lot of positives. But I’m pumping the brakes on all this sure fire top-10 talk.

      • Michael (CLT)

        Understood. Thanks for the clarification.

    • CC

      I like Shelton, I’m just not sure he is fit for Seattle. And likely after this week he’ll be long gone by the last of the first round.

    • CHawk Talker Eric

      Maybe you have homer glasses on.

      He’s nowhere near NFL playing shape, is visibly knackered after a few downs, and his best production came against vastly inferior teams.

    • CHawk Talker Eric

      That might come across too harsh. Shelton is a decent prospect, but not in R1.

      I have a similar opinion of Leonard Williams, although not to the same degree. Williams is a R1 prospect, but I can’t see him as the top 5 pick he’s expected to be. I just don’t see the value. He doesn’t have the conditioning problems that Shelton does, but like Shelton, his best production comes against inferior teams and he “disappears” for stretches of plays, even entire games.

      A R1 pick, especially a high R1 pick, can’t be as “on-off” as either of these DL prospects.

      • Michael (CLT)

        Appreciate the clarification. Big men who have great feet, hands, effort, and love for the game are rare.

  23. Michael(CLT)

    Golden was a non-factor all game. Havenstein destroyed him routinely.

    • Rob Staton

      He had a quiet game. He did win some battles against T.J. Clemmings.

      • Volume 12

        Wisconsin OL Rob Havenstein is very intriguing as a mid round pick. He’d give us some depth behind RT Britt and possibly RG Sweezy too. Really like this big guy. He does need to distribute some of his weight more evenly throughout his body.

  24. DC

    It’s not that they wouldn’t invest a high draft pick in a “3 down” DT. Those players are hard to come by. Rumor last year was that they were eyeballing Dominique Easley until the Pats took him. The rotation is(was) in part because they do not have that 3 down guy. Doubt they would hesitate to pull the trigger if the right guy was there.

    • peter

      Agreed the rotation fills a need and helps everyone out on the line but a 3 down player would be hard to pass on.

  25. New Guy

    Hey Rob –

    What’s the etymology of the term, ‘damp squib’? Haven’t seen that one before.

    .

    • Rob Staton

      It basically means it was underwhelming or disappointing.

    • Phil

      I’ve never heard the term before either, but I think it’s great. A “squib”, I believe, is like a “cap” in an explosive device. So, if you have a “damp squib”, you are more likely to get a “fizzle” instead of a “bang”. So, it’s a good metaphor for how some expected “explosive” players turned out to be “duds”. I’m no Webster, but it sounds reasonable to me …..

  26. peter

    Rob, just watched the Grady Jarrett tape vs. Ohio, have to say I’m intrigued. In the toughest of terms in about a,quarter and a half it goes : He’s unblocked knifing into the backfield, he’s blocked one on one and he’d causing tons of problems, they double and triple team him, and after a short while its just more efficient to run wide outside realizing they can’t stop him. Perhaps after some point Ohio solves him but after 5 or so outside runs in a row I stopped watching. I take it as a compliment to the player when teams take them out of the game.

    Its how I feel about Carl Davis …his tape isn’t bad but its not amazing though nearly every snap he is holding a gap while being doubled. I wouldn’t be bummed with a player like that for Seattle to go with Mebane, hill, etc. That allowed an edge or inside edge like Bennett or marsh to break free even more often.

    • Rob Staton

      Thanks for your thoughts on those two guys Peter. Appreciate it.

  27. Volume 12

    Iowa DT Carl Davis was named ‘practice player of the week,’ and did play well today, his tape is pretty underwhelming, but what scares me a little about him is reportedly he bombed his interviews big time this week with scouts. Don’t know why.

    • Rob Staton

      Any links to any news reporting discussing those interviews?

      • peter

        I caught the same statement at Walter football I believe and again that site is good for ludicrous amounts of info, players, etc. But with things like the Davis interviews they never source, link, or further clarify. It sometimes makes me wonder how much is conjecture over there and though I believe those two guys over there are connected with some level of information you never really can tell.

        That said a near camp body until this week in Davis can’t afford to have any missteps from now until the draft. I think he was one of those players as they say ” who made himself the most money,” this last week.

  28. Volume 12

    Hey guys, here’s a really good feature on UCF WR Rendell ‘Speedy’ Hall. Seems like he’d fit right in. Big Personality, teammates mention how he plays with a chip on his shoulder. It’s a pretty good view for those that are interested.

    http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=videos+of+ucf+wr+rannell+hall+on+youtube&qs=n&form=QBVR&pq=videos+of+ucf+wr+rannell+hall+on+youtube&sc=0-6&sp=-1&sk=#view=detail&mid=042894C8A160660C09C5042894C8A160660C09C5

    • OZ

      Really like Hall a lot. Very Seahawky.

      • Volume 12

        Your right Oz. I’m still kind of digging into WR prospects for Seattle, and after Yesterday’s game and watching some film on WR Hall, he may be the most ‘Seahawky’ of all the WR prospects so far. I’d love this kid as a 3rd round pick, but if he has a great combine like I think he will, he may end up a round 2 type of guy.

  29. JaviOsullivan

    I have wait to watch the combine but…

    Every day I like more Orchard in the first round. And I would like Justin Hardy in the 3rd.

    In the 5rd and 6rd would be interesting choose a big WR (Dezmin Lewis, Darren Waller) or TE (Jean Sifrin).

    • Volume 12

      Isn’t UMASS TE Jean Sifrin like 27 years old? I’m all for taking guys who are 23 or 24, but at 27 he better be able to produce or contribute right off the bat.

      • JaviOsullivan

        Yes, but 4 years with rookie contract is cheap… and the guy is very seahawky.

  30. Hay stacker509

    Rob, what’s your thoughts on the ex qb nick Marshall switching to cb? It’s tough but he does have good football iq so he should be able to pick up what the qb is going to do or how he throws to the wr Marshall is supposed to cover. Do you think he’s a decent 4-5 rd cb project? Also what’s everyone’s thoughts on Oregon st cb Steven Nelson, how does he matchup for earl Thomas’ backup?

    • Volume 12

      I actually like Oregon St CB Steven Nelson as a nickel back. He’s extremely aggressive, plays with a ton if confidence, he’s interesting that’s for sure.

    • Rob Staton

      I thought Marshall struggled a bit in the game yesterday at corner. Which isn’t a big surprise, he’s re-adjusting to the position. He’s going to be an UDFA who might get a shot in a camp to show he can develop into a corner. Steven Nelson had a good performance I thought. He could be one to watch when they almost inevitably have to replace Jeron Johnson.

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