The 2019 draft class doesn’t look great

We’re well into the college season now so what can we say about the prospective 2019 draft class?

Not a lot, unfortunately.

It’s clear where the strength is — defensive front seven. That’s not such a bad thing for the Seahawks. It’s likely to be their focus in round one.

Apart from that? Here’s the early outlook:

— It’s very possible there won’t be a quarterback worth drafting in round one, let alone in the top-10.

— The top offensive lineman, Wisconsin’s David Edwards, is a right tackle. There isn’t a top-tier left tackle prospect destined for the top-10 and the depth is mediocre.

— LSU cornerback Greedy Williams could go early and Washington’s Byron Murphy looks the part. Neither player is a sure-fire top-10 prospect though. They might go early by default.

— The skill positions look particularly weak in terms of the first round. There’s no Saquon Barkley or Leonard Fournette destined for the top-five and there’s no receiver worthy of a high grade either.

There will be good players available. Nick Bosa and Clelin Ferrell are high picks in any draft. It’s not often you have such a wealth of talent on the defensive line and the depth is terrific. LSU’s Devin White is a fantastic inside linebacker prospect and Christian Wilkins is going to go very early as a highly athletic, ideal interior defender. Everyone knows about Ed Oliver, Brian Burns and Jachai Polite by now. Zach Allen, Raekwon Davis, Dexter Lawrence, Rashan Gary and Derrick Brown could all find a home in the top-15. Georgia’s D’Andre Walker is underrated and Kentucky’s Josh Allen is having a big season.

But here’s the issue. Without a cluster of options at different ‘premium’ positions, teams at the top are going to struggle to find value. A team in desperate need of a franchise quarterback likely won’t find a solution early in this draft. If you want a blind-side protecter at left tackle, good luck. If you want a dynamic corner or a #1 receiver — where are the options?

So we’ll likely see a number of defensive linemen and linebackers touted for the first round.

When the national focus turns towards the draft in January, I suspect we’ll hear a lot about this being a bad draft. Usually a good class includes at least a few QB’s, some skill position players and at least one good left tackle. The cupboard is bare.

It’s not a good year to pick in the top-10 either. The value at #5-10 might be similar to the value in the teens or 20’s.

And for anyone questioning Nick Bosa’s decision to sit the rest of the season out after surgery. Let’s be right here. There’s practically nobody competing to be the #1 pick right now. The only thing stopping him is another injury or another surgery. Question his decision if you want but realise the stakes. He’s virtually a lock to be the top choice in 2019.

Here’s a (very early) possible top-15:

1 New York Giants — Nick Bosa (DE, Ohio State)
2 San Francisco — Clelin Ferrell (DE, Clemson)
3 Oakland — Ed Oliver (DT, Houston)
4 Buffalo — Christian Wilkins (DT, Clemson)
5 Arizona — Devin White (LB, LSU)
6 Cleveland — Brian Burns (DE, Florida State)
7 Indianapolis — Raekwon Davis (DT, Alabama)
8 New York Jets — David Edwards (T, Wisconsin)
9 Jacksonville — Jachai Polite (DE, Florida)
10 Denver — Greedy Williams (CB, LSU)
11 Tennessee — Zach Allen (DE, Boston College)
12 Oakland — Rashan Gary (DE, Michigan)
13 Detroit — Derrick Brown (DT, Auburn)
14 Tampa Bay — D’Andre Walker (LB, Georgia)
15 Atlanta — Dexter Lawrence (DT, Clemson)

You might argue it’s unrealistic to see a top-15 so dominated by the defensive front seven. What’s the alternative though? Is a team going to make Missouri’s Drew Lock a top-10 quarterback? Is Ole Miss’ Greg Little really a left tackle or does he have to kick inside?

The Seahawks currently only have four picks in the 2019 draft. They’re unlikely to get much, if anything, in terms of comp picks. They don’t really have the trade options to generate more picks in the off-season.

It might not be the worst draft to have minimal stock. It’s just not particularly exciting. We’ll see if the combine throws up some intriguing athletes with upside. We’ll see if the Senior Bowl can shine a light on some under the radar prospects.

Increasingly it appears the Seahawks (and their estimated $60m in cap space for 2019) are best served re-signing their cluster of free agents. Frank Clark, D.J. Fluker, J.R. Sweezy, Justin Coleman and K.J. Wright (and/or Mychal Kendricks). They’re unlikely to have the spending power to be major players in free agency. They should have enough to make a few choice additions — similar to what we witnessed in 2018.

And then you make the most of your minimal draft stock with the priority likely to be another pass rusher, interior of EDGE.

It probably won’t be an exciting off-season. It doesn’t necessarily need to be. It seems like a lot of the hard work was done this year in changing the culture and reclaiming Seattle’s identity. They’re on the right track.

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  1. bigten

    Good write up Rob. Good to know this draft is a weak one. Do you think that being in the 20s, like i think we will be, is a good spot for someone to want to move up and take a QB? say the giants, maybe? Or do you think the 20s has any real value in the form of multiple picks we could trade for?
    Also, what do you think about 2020 draft? Could we potentially trade a pick for a future higher round pick?

    • Rob Staton

      It’s possible someone could move up for a QB but it’s just a question of who? I’m struggling to think of anyone worthy. Drew Lock? Can’t see Herbert or Montez declaring.

      The Seahawks are always willing to move around and trade so we’ll see.

      • cha

        Lack of QB talent is a frequent topic of discussion when projecting draft boards and the market is so hungry for capable QBs that ones end up getting pushed up the board. I could see that happening again this year.

        Not that I’m complaining. Another advantage of having your franchise QB locked in is it pushes more ‘actual’ first round talent down to you while other teams are scrambling for QB options.

      • Icb12

        The QB at Duke Daniel Jones might be the best most pro ready QB in college right now.

        But I think he might return to school.

      • FresnoHawk

        QB’s will be sprinkled throughout the draft just not in the first round, I like QB’s in this draft.

      • McZ

        Incredibly, both Herbert and Montez have the same weakness. They rarely, if ever, throw to second reads. Montez could be have the better arguments here, because he has really not that broad a target set besides Shenault.

        I think, Will Grier currently gets a lot of thumping from the so-called experts. And the arguments are actually the same that dropped Russell Wilson to R3. Maybe the Chargers will bite in R1…

  2. Zxvo3

    This is the perfect draft for us to not have a lot of draft capital. Honestly our top needs are just EDGE, DT, and maybe some depth in LB. I feel like the RB, WR, OL positions are set for next year (assuming we extend Sweezy & Fluker). T2 & BMac have been playing well and the corners are set for the future (assuming we extend Coleman). We could need some depth at TE but honestly imo the TE position is not a focal point in our offense especially with Fant there 😂.

    • Attyla the Hawk

      LB will likely be sorted before the draft.

      Kendricks may or may not be available. Mingo is playing his way to a new deal. Griffin is still developing. I’m sure they’d like to add a LB. But no need to force a pick if it’s not there.

      Not having a 2nd round selection — I expect that the direction we go overall in the draft is going to be dictated to us by what’s left on the vine. Seattle has repeatedly double dipped in deep talent pools in their drafts. That was when we had 8-9 picks on hand. Will they deviate from that? Hard to say.

  3. Georgia Hawk

    I think as long as they stick to a plan like they did this past draft, they will be fine. Where they always seem to get in trouble is when they go for a splashy trade, or get cute in the draft. Form a plan for the off season and stick to it. The holes aren’t as glaring now as they were 8 months ago, play the strengths and make small improvements.

    Assuming they re-sign a few current starters:
    Starting DL competition, quality LBs that can play solid backup roles, depth in the secondary, and depth on the Oline with an eye towards starting in the next couple years are where I personally see the priorities right now.

  4. Naks8

    Grooming another pass rusher is a solid option. You resign the new core, and continue to develop green and martin. The guy you draft becomes the next frank Clark who contributes situationally but you have enough depth to rotate people and keep them fresh. That would be an exciting defensive front

    • Rob Staton

      Yeah I think the key is to add a player who can provide a few extra sacks/pressures in 2019 with the plan to develop them into a more permanent fixture down the line. Could be an EDGE or a DT.

      • GerryG

        ^^one of those guys is already on the roster with that plan in mind (R Green) so add another with Martin developing and hopefully pass rush can get above average.

      • Naks8

        Seems like this has been the plan the last 4 years with early picks (Clark-reed-McDowell-green). But of course McDowell messed up the flow. Somewhere in rounds 1-3 they will grab an impact s lineman

  5. Dec

    Hi Rob, love the blog and this is my first question.
    There has been a lot mentioned about the Seahawks past drafts and if they are ‘good’ or not. The article yesterday compared the drafts with each other but I would be interested to know what constitutes a good draft or merely even what is the league-wide (realistic) expected outcome for a draft?

    If a team has all its native picks (7), what would the Seahwaks or any team for that matter constitute as successful. We can’t expect all picks to be fruitful so would something like 2 key starters, 2 rotational players and maybe a decent development player would be the average outcome for a draft, after players have completed their rookie contracts?

    • Rob Staton

      The consensus seems to be if you can get three significant contributors from a draft you could refer to it as a good class. It’s difficult though. Take the 2015 draft for example. They grabbed Frank Clark and Tyler Lockett with their first two picks but got very little else. Is it a bad draft? Absolutely not. You got two really good starters. One had his contract extended, the other will get a new deal or the tag. To me that’s a good draft regardless of the fact nobody else from the class really contributed.

      If you want to break it down you hope for a couple of starters or potential starters and at least one other contributor.

      • FresnoHawk

        Nobody wants bad drafts but it happens to everyone winning teams like SeaHawks & NE see it coming a mile away.

  6. millhouse-serbia

    I think that 1st round choice will depends a lot of Rasheem developing.

    • Rob Staton

      Maybe. But they’re unlikely to find much out in the next few weeks. Whether he begins to have an impact or not, they really need another front seven type.

      • millhouse-serbia

        Yes, i absolutely think that they will go front 7 with 1st round pick. Question is DE or 3tech. And i wanted to say that if Green somehow menage to show that he can be starter for next couple of years,then they will go 3tech.

      • AndrewP

        Practice counts in this regard as well

  7. cha

    Where do you see Trey Adams going?

    It seems obvious his injuries would knock him out of the first round, but if he’s proved healthy in the offseason and if the cupboard is so bare of LT prospects, I’m wondering if he would sneak into the late first round with a team that wants the 5th year option and has an aging LT and wants someone to groom.

    I know it’s a crapshoot but Billy Price went #21 last year after injuring himself at the combine. I know it’s not exactly apples to apples but there is precedent for a guy with injury questions to not drop so terribly much.

    • Rob Staton

      It’s too early to say with Adams. If he comes back this season and finishes strongly that helps. But if he even declares the medical checks at the combine will determine everything.

      • Ukhawk

        I think he stays in school

  8. C-Dog

    Fantastic perspective, Rob!

    If this team keeps rolling along like it has, I could not agree more about holding onto their own. It kinda fits that old Green Bay model that JS has been groomed under.

    IMO, keeping Clark is as close to a must as it can possibly get, and I’m feeling that Fluker and Sweezy are pretty much right there with him in terms of maintaining the newly inspired offensive identity.

    In terms of front seven, I’m not sure I have a preference to the position, just a feeling that they should go for the guy ready to make the most impact with upside, regardless.

    Still excited to see what Rasheem Green offers after an off-season in their strength program. Still believe there is a ton of upside to uncork there. I also think it’s too soon to give up on Nazair Jones even though he might be a bit in the dog house, or just lost in the depth right now.

    Haven’t done one of these goofy things in a while. So, here we go. Assuming that they bring back Fluker, and Sweez, I can see them go in on an all defense draft this Spring.

    20: R1P20

    Pete Carroll and Ken Norton get a versatile front seven edge defender that fits their 4-3 with 3-4 personnel defense. The former WR to LB convert can fill the SAM/LEO role similarly held by Bruce Irvin. Jim Nagy notes that Allen has shown the ability to rush from both sides, and is playing the run well enough stacking up tight ends and tackles.

    83: R3P19

    Seattle might hold onto Wright or Kendricks, but Carroll seems to like those Jim Harbaugh players, and having a guy who can play fast and be the future at WILL and also backup Bobby is probably pretty solid value here.

    122: R4P20

    Seattle uses the depth of the Dliners to find some valuable 3 tech depth here. Jared Reed feels like the fixture to build around. Poona feels like a guy that they are high on. They can easily bring back Shamar, and Naz might click in year three a bit like Reed did. I’m honestly not too concerned about DT and how Seattle operates here.

    160: R5P20

    Carroll finds another college corner who fits the cover three that they like to run.

    • Zxvo3

      Absolutely love this mock draft. Instead of Devin Bush I like TJ Edwards out of Wisconsin but I’ve never really watched Devin Bush

      • Doug

        Bush is the best defender at Michigan (more important to the D than Gary). The guy is a beast–fast, good tackler, and a leader on the D. Very Seahawk-y.

        • Zxvo3

          Sounds like a good player, I will have to watch more of him

  9. Matt

    Considering the dearth of draft picks this year and the potential to sign some free agents – how would you feel about Seattle trading their 1st for a few midround picks and a future 1st rounder?

    I know you need 2 to tango, but teams panic and do weird things. It’d be nice to head into the 2020 draft with a full arsenal of picks, an extra first rounder…and have the ability to trade up higher into R1 to address DE or LT, knowing Duane Brown isn’t getting any younger.

    Again…I know we need a dance partner, but the idea in general; how would that sit with you?

    • Rob Staton

      It’s a difficult one to answer. I’m not totally against the idea but it’s too early to say whether it’d be a good or bad move this year.

      • Matt

        Oh totally. Impossible to guess at this point.

        Another question; assuming we can’t trade back – what position (not player) would you most likely target? And let’s just assume there are no players/talents that really stick out. It’s just a matter of what position are you comfortable “reaching on?” Let’s say early 20s in Round 1.

        For me…I think I’d have to stick with the front 7. DE, DT, or LB. Probably take a shot on a guy at one of those positions who has a unique skill/talent. And just take the risk. I’d also maybe throw in FS as an outside shot.

        Your thoughts?

        • Rob Staton

          Front seven all the way.

    • McZ

      R1P20 could translate into Winovitch, Polite, maybe even Zach Allen, if dynamics work in our favor. If one of the top DE is available, I see us bite. If there are two, we could trade back a few spots. I get the feeling, Winovitch will last until late R1, but not later than the Pats. So, maybe a trade back to 26-28 becomes possible.

      Could also be, they are set upon a guy like Zuniga. Then, they could even trade back to mid-R2.

      The rest, if no trade is made…

      R3 Denzel Mims, WR, Baylor (unbelievable catch radius, few non athletic issues, great technique)
      R4 Lucas Niang, OT, TCU (has a few very correctable errors, and flies under the radar)
      R5 Cole Tracy, K, LSU (heckuva kicker, best in class)

      • Rob Staton

        I think it remains to be seen on Winovich. Great attitude, effort and personality. But he’s a technique man. He’s extremely well coached and he’s clearly worked at his craft. But is that going to be enough at the next level? Very debatable. The combine is huge for Winovich.

        • McZ

          I share your concerns, but the same is true for a lot of guys on that DE list. Even both of the Allens as they play are hard to imagine against decent NFL OTs.

          I think, the Seahawks could realize, that they have no chance to get to the real Top 5 (Boss, Burns, Ferrell, Polite, maybe Sweat, maybe Gary), and – instead of overpaying on a guy being marginally better – settle for a R2-3 guy like Zuniga.

          The real scary thing is the 49ers being on the trail to pick Nick Bosa.

          • Kemoarps

            Yes, that’s my biggest fear around this draft as well… With both SF and AZ looking to be picking at the top of a D-line dominant draft…

  10. UKAlex6674

    Given the fact some top 15 teams will over reach for positional players they feel they need, good chance some of that D line and LB will fall into the bottom half of the draft. Maybe top of second? Good chance we trade down in the first pick up additional pick or picks, maybe trade out and move up to top of second.

  11. Gohawks5151

    If Christian Ponder and Jake Locker can go in the top 15, then so can Drew Locke and Justin Herbert! Never give up on the dream. It only takes one team to think they will be great!

    • Rob Staton

      I don’t think Herbert will declare.

      Lock could go in the top-15, true. But it’s also worth noting the buzz around Locker was huge for a year or two before he even turned pro and Ponder was very productive and well touted.

      • Mac

        Herbert, Montez will stay and enter the draft next year with Tua Tagovailoa. I’m a bit higher on Montez than either of the others, especially at making pro throws. This draft class of qbs is kind of a crapshoot.
        Dwayne Haskins, Kyler Murray, Drew Lock all guys that should be in rounds 2-5.

        • Rob Staton

          I like Montez a lot.

          • Adog

            What about the guy from WSU with the stash? He can whip the ball around…sort of a Goff esque spread qb… maybe a top 10 in 2020?

            • NickLOB

              Minshew is a grad transfer this year

            • mac

              He’s a grad transfer. He has been receiving some hype lately, scouts reportedly are giving him a second to third round grade. He has some good attributes and is a decent athlete.

            • mishima

              I’m an hour from Boulder and might have to go to Colorado v. WSU.

  12. JimQ

    On my “early watch list” is a junior CB that has great stats so far this season & also looks to have the size, length & speed to be of interest to the Seahawks. likely a mid-round pick IF he declares for the draft this year. IMO – Hall has the size, length and skillset the Seahawks like in a DB.

    –CB-Bryce Hall (Junior), Virginia, 6-1/200 (Sticky cover guy, long, strong, smart and fast)
    2018: 8-games, 2-INT, 38-tkls, 2.5-TFL, 1.0-Sack, 16-PBU**, 1-FF, (** = Tied for #1 in NCAA)
    See also:

    Other players of interest on my “early watch list” in no particular order:

    –OLB-Chase Hansen, Utah, 6-021/230, 4.67/40, (an undersized LB but a potential mid-round pick?)
    2018: 8-games: 68-tkls, 44-solo, 2-INT (1 for TD), 14.0-TFL, 4-sacks, 3-PBU, 1-QBH

    –CB-Derrick Baity Jr. Kentucky, 6-021/188. 4.52/40. (Long & a possible Sherman like clone?)
    2018: 8-games: 23-tkls, 1-INT, 1.0-TFL, 6-PBU, 1-FF

    –WR-Preston Williams (Junior), Colorado St 6-4/210, ??/40 (good production, maybe he comes out?)
    2018: 8-games, 61/825/13.52-YPC, 8-TD’s 7.6 receptions/game, 103.1-yds/game

    –RB-Darrell Henderson (Junior), Memphis (not sure if he’ll declare but #’s are VERY impressive)
    (8-games: 114/1148/10.07-YPC, 13-TD;s, 12/211/2-TD-rec.

    –OLB-Joe Dineen, Jr., Kansas, 6-2/235, ???/40 (a potential mid to later round pick?)
    2018: 8-games: 96-tkls, 67-solo, 1-INT, 7.0-TFL, 2-sacks, 1-PBU, 3-QBH

    –DE-Nate Harvey, East Carolina 6-002/225, (Undersized effort guy, may be overlooked, position=?)
    2018: 7-games: 42-tkls, 17.5-TFL, 7.5-Sacks, 2-QBH, 1-FF (death-backer? hybrid safety? speed=?)

    • Sea Mode

      Thanks for the list. Will take a look. I’m a bit behind myself so this is helpful.

  13. Van Gogh

    N’Keal Harry would look great in a Seahawks uniform next year ……

    • Rob Staton

      I’ll pass on Harry. Just not sold on him.

      • Matt

        Weirdly enough – he actually reminds me of Jaelen Strong, out of ASU, who everyone loved and ultimately did nothing. Harry is a superior physical talent, but agreed…I just have a weird lack of faith in his ability, especially as a R1 WR.

        • Rob Staton

          That’s exactly how I feel. Strong was extremely well hyped. But he never had ‘it’.

          • drewdawg11

            What is “it” that Harry lacks? He’s constantly doubled, has a terribly inconsistent QB, and every team keys on him, yet they still manage to get the ball into his hands and all he does is make plays. Physical, athletic, good hands. Refinement is always needed with young receivers, but he’s twice the player strong ever dreamed about becoming. It’s not even close.

            • Rob Staton

              To me he looks limited in his ability to separate either immediately on his breaks or creating space with long speed or suddenness. Clearly there are times where he’s made spectacular plays in the open field and that’s great but arguably less likely at the next level (how many amazing YAC runs do you see in the NFL?). I fear at the next level he’ll be easy to cover and will need to win a lot of contested catches (and there’s some inconsistency in the way he attacks the ball).

              He’s not a bad player by any stretch but there are things the legit R1 receivers do that I just don’t see in Harry.

      • SoCal12

        Any round you would take him on? I’m not sold on Harry as an early round prospect either. Dude has like no twitch or separation speed. But if he falls to like the fourth or fifth, I’m okay with picking him up as like a big body red zone target.

        • Rob Staton

          Mid rounds IMO

        • McZ

          Take a look at Denzel Mims, Baylor. Not as hyped (at least until Combine), but more sophisticated in almost any aspect bar pure speed,

  14. FresnoHawk

    We need DL and we lose Coleman no reason we can’t find a slot in this draft.

    • Dale Roberts

      Why would we lose Coleman?

      • BobbyK

        Same reason they lost Golden Tate, Byron Maxwell, Russell Okung, Malcolm Smith, etc.

        • GerryG

          Coleman has been great, but getting a little tired of his tackling issues

      • FresnoHawk

        6 3 CB Fresno State Junior Mike Bell he can play the slot and in the box if he declares this year but Seahawks tend to draft Seniors.

  15. JD

    Hey Rob,

    Thanks for all that you do and as always appreciate the great content. I have a gut feeling this year that JS won’t trade out of the first round and will stand pat and select at our native pick and will indeed go defensive front 7.

    Who is the one player you have a gut feeling about that the hawks will select if they don’t trade out of the first round?

    • Rob Staton

      It’s hard to pick one because there’s so much to be determined in terms of testing. It’ll likely be someone with a great 10-yard split and length or highly explosive qualities.

  16. Gohawks5151

    David Edwards is good but you got to think Jonah Williams goes early and probably is the first tackle taken if he comes out. Good power in run game, solid in the pass game. Solid feet and plays left tackle unlike Edwards. I feel like he goes in the Jake Matthews range, possibly a little later. Keep an eye on that Wisconsin line though. Wow. Edwards may be the worst of the bunch when it is all said and done.

    • Rob Staton

      I don’t think Jonah Williams is a first round pick.

  17. FresnoHawk

    Winston Dimel FB UTEP should be our target he could be a HOF at FB some say. So far with Lockett (special teams returner) and Dickson (punter) were %100 in Carroll era.

  18. Josh

    I think it will be an interesting draft for sure. Most of the teams on your list all need offensive help. Offensive players like qb’s and olinemen are always overdrafted. The Seahawks have a top 5 defense. Maybe an early pick for the defense doesn’t make the most sense? I say keep feeding the trenches. Offensive linemen and defensive linemen to stock the shelves. It seems to take a couple seasons for even highly heralded offensive linemen to blossom in the pro’s.

    • Rob Staton

      I think they should still be looking for relative impact with their first pick. Drafting someone to replace an offensive lineman 2-3 years down the line, especially when (as noted in the article) it’s a very weak draft for the OL doesn’t make much sense IMO.

      D-line all the way as far as I’m concerned. Not even any doubt.

      • Nick

        Remember your DL conviction when it comes to the draft, Rob! Don’t let Tony Pauline’s leads override your gut 😉

  19. astraeus

    My Round 1 DL (top to bottom):

    Nick Bosa, Ed Oliver, Quinnen Williams, Jeffrey Simmons, Clelin Ferrell, Rashan Gary, Brian Burns, Jachai Polite, Raekwon Davis, Dre’Mont Jones, Josh Allen, Zach Allen, Jerry Tillery, Montez Sweat

    Lot’s of good options.

    • Rob Staton

      Quinnen Williams — good player but not quite as good as I think some have determined. Not yet anyway. Don’t expect him to declare.

      Jeffrey Simmons — gets mocked a lot in R1. I’d love to know who these projectors think is going to take him in R1. The guy was filmed beating the crap out of a defenceless woman as she lay on the ground being attacked by someone else.

      Montez Sweat — just not feeling it.

      • Dave

        Quinnen Williams has been killing LSU all game. Definitely someone to keep an eye on

        • Rob Staton

          Definitely. Just published a new piece on him check it out.

  20. AndrewP

    Rob- have you watched any film on Andrew Dillard, LT for Washington State? I’m not an expert on line play, but, the WSU QB has had little to worry about from the blindside the last 2rys+, and he rarely gets flagged for holding/false start (knock on wood). I know the Air Raid style scares some NFL teams, so I’d love your input.

    • Rob Staton

      I haven’t seen him unfortunately

      • AndrewP

        It’s actually ANDRE Dillard. Apologies.

        I’ve seen him in the second round of some mocks… With the position being at such a premium, it just takes one team believing he can play the position to go in RD1 (most likely in a trade-up type scenario).

        Anyway, he’s in (other’s) highlight videos available on YouTube, so, watch if/when you have a free moment.

  21. Misfit74

    I guess you prefer Jonah Williams at Guard?

    I think this class is especially deep and talented at WR and TE. I imagine some upper tier talents emerge as the draft process unfolds and underclassmen declare. After DL, those are going to be good value picks. Harmon, Edwards, Johnson, Brown, Harry at WR. Fant and many others at TE – of course I hope for a full recovery by Dissly.

    Quinnen Williams is another DT that looks good.

    At this point I’d be stunned if Seattle didn’t draft an EDGE or DT round 1 of they stay there.

    • Rob Staton

      I think Williams will move inside at the next level. Not sure where all the high R1 talk is coming from with him.

      I don’t see a deep TE and WR class at all to be honest.

  22. Chancellor Hawk

    Two significant positions of need for this upcoming offseason that I do not feel are being talked about enough are fullback and kicker. Both positions present an opportunity to inject talent and youth to the roster.

    Has anyone done any scouting on these two positions?

    • Rob Staton

      There aren’t many FB’s to actually scout.

      Ideally they find a long term solution at kicker but again, it’s a tough position to judge in college. My preference would be to find a veteran with some production that still intends to play for a few years. Robbie Gould is a FA at the end of the year.

      • Greg Haugsven

        Dan Bailey as well.

  23. John_s

    I will take Oshane Ximines over a lot of the DE’s being talked about in the first round.

    • D-OZ

      I like Ferguson also. His Jr. tape was like night and day over his Soph. year. I like the kid from Wyoming too, they actually have two D-Line prospect’s.

  24. Aaron

    Looks like this offseason is set up *almost* perfectly for what PCJS like to do…

    – Resign their own
    – Value picks in FA over big time spending
    – Draft instead of FA to fill need (younger and cheaper)

    I say *almost* because I’m sure JS would love more picks, but I don’t see a scenario where he adds much more than 2. If they’re a playoff team they’ll be picking in the 20s so I could see a trade out of round 1 to net a couple later picks, that’s about it. It’s cliché, but we might be only a draft away from being a legit SB contender. As it stands now we’re a playoff contender should we come out of November above .500. Big game this Sunday against arguably the #3 team in the AFC behind the Chiefs and Pats.

    • BobbyK

      They took the Rams down to the wire and have beaten everyone else up for over a month. They are a legit Super Bowl contender.

  25. Phil

    Hi Rob – my wife and I have moved back “home” to the Seattle area and I haven’t been reading the blog as consistently as in the past. So, I’m wondering if you have seen any WSU tape and, more specifically, any tape of Gardner Minshew? I’ve watched 2 of his games and he’s the best QB I’ve seen this year. What impresses me the most is his accuracy on crossing routes, where he always seems to throw the ball so his receivers don’t have to break stride to make the catch. In the Patriots’ dink and dunk offense, he’d fit in perfectly. He also seems to go through his progressions really well, and he is really poised and patient in the pocket.

    We are looking forward to Sunday’s game. We will be back in Section 335, just a couple of rows from where we sat for many years….

    • Rob Staton

      That’s great Phil, enjoy the game and being back in Seattle!

      I haven’t had access to any WSU games unfortunately. That might change now they’re #8. I’m keen to look at Minshew.

    • j

      He is a slightly bigger Baker Mayfield. Watch their tapes back to back and you’ll see it.

  26. Overtime

    The Seahawks at top 5 in total defense. No. 4 in pass defense and No. 17 in rushing defense. That isn’t bad. I think they one thing they are missing on the D is a stud run stuffer that will take the double teams off of Jarran Reed. That said, I would like to see them target Greg Gaines. He gets doubled all day long and still finds his way to the QB. They could probably get him in the 2nd or 3rd round.

    I see them trading out of the 1st round. They need some WR’s are there are going to be some good ones. Brandon Marshall is gone. Brown is too expensive. Hakeem Butler would be my pick. I also like the idea of selecting a LT that can be developed to replace Brown in a couple years.

    • Coleslaw

      I also think it’s highly likely they trade all the way out of round 1 if they really want DL. Why take a guy at 15-20 when you can get someone just as good at 32-45, while adding up to 3 or 4 picks. We could end up drafting 3 DL before the end of the 3rd round or early into the 4th.
      Only issue is who to trade with and why would they want to? Maybe as Rob said in the piece, there will be a few position groups that get ignored early, but later into the 1sr teams might want to move up to get the top guy at the position

    • UKAlex6674

      We have Jamarco Jones and George Fant for that.

    • McZ

      Too bad we passed on Da’shawn Hand… I liked him a lot, and still do.
      Btw, 2020 will be hell of a WR draft.

  27. Dale Roberts

    The 2020 draft already looks promising for QBs with Herbert, Tagovailoa, Haskins, Montez, Fromm, Eason, Stidham, Patterson, Grier, and Bryant all arriving in 2020. Will the Hawks look to tap that draft for a future QB? How does the rest of the draft look? With so many good available QBs the rest of the draft should be rich in possibilities. Will this be a good draft to target for increasing draft stock?

    • Volume12

      Stidham? Why because he’s big? You seem that man deal with pressure? Montez? Don’t see a toolsy guy. Fromm’s velocity is terrible. Patterson ain’t it chief.

      I’ll agree on the rest. Tu’a’s the man. Easton is already way underrated. Haskins should stay. He’s got a chance to develop into a good one. Herbert I still think will stay due to his brother coming on board. Grier I like but not as a face of the franchise type if that makes sense.

  28. drewdawg11

    Rob, N’Keal Harry, (WR ASU), is a definite first round pick. I would love to get him, but it’s unlikely that we will have a shot at him.

    • Rob Staton

      I disagree on Harry. Not a R1 for me

    • Mac

      I would rather wait a year and try to get Laviska Shenault jr, dude is a baller.

  29. Brian

    Rob – Where do you see Taylor Rapp fitting in the draft? I’m a husky homer but he just seems special. Always in the middle of plays and Coach Pete says he’s the smartest player he’s coached which says a lot given recent pedigree of husky defensive backfield. Is he not fast enough to play elite at the next level?

    • drewdawg11

      Rapp is another guy I love for Seattle as well. He’s going to be a versatile safety who can play anywhere on the field. Adept at blitzing and a really sure tackler.

    • Rob Staton

      I think he’s a top-50 type with the ability to really rise depending on how he tests

  30. Pickering

    If it’s widely recognized this class is limited, that probably means free agents should be able to cash in.

    • Tecmo Bowl

      This is an interesting point Pickering. Feels like we saw that happen last year at WR. Watkins and ARob, among others, got huge deals with a thin WR draft class.

      Conversely with the draft class shaping up to be deep on front 4 players, could suppress the FA DL market a bit.

  31. mac

    One player that is mystifying to me is Gardner Minshew. In a weak class and with recent scout reports giving him a second to third round grade. He is polarizing to me because I am a coug fan. I see some solid strengths in his athleticism, solid build, placement and accuracy. I do however see some weaknesses, tending to throw the ball a bit too high to RBs (however that was a problem in the first two games and has appeared to be corrected), before he transferred he didn’t exactly pile up the stats.

    I have absolutely no idea where to place him!

    • AlaskaHawk

      I had mentioned in another post that I think in a normal year he would be 6 round to UDFA. But with the lack of decent QBs he could rise to third round. My prediction is playing out already!

      Here’s the thing – he is good enough to be a backup in the NFL – and perhaps a starter. He has a good arm and most likely will lead Washington State to the PAC championship for the first time in (how many years?)

      HIs cons, only 6-2 and plays in the PAC. How good is he? I suspect there are other QBs who are as good or better, but they won’t be ready for the draft. So out of a weak field, he looks decent. Having said that = I would take any QB from Alabama, Clemson, Georgia, Oklahoma, or Texas over him. Just because their program and schedule is tougher.

      • j

        Watch his game tape, then watch Baker Mayfield’s game tape right after. Very similar.

        As far as schedule goes, think the PAC 12 is underrated.

      • Mac

        I don’t disagree, a lot of comparisons have been made to Mayfield. I could see a team taking him in the 3rd round to backup their starter and possibly give a high end insurance.

    • C-Dog

      I came into the season high on Herbert, got turned onto Steven Montez by Rob, but, just MHO, I think Minshew doing the best quarterbacking in the PAC 12. I am not a Cougars fan, but he’s making me root for the team.

      Just looks like a natural rhythm passer. There will be knocks about him coming out of the air raid, not being the biggest guy at the position, one year wonder, etc. but in a weak QB draft, if I am looking for potential starter on a team with a lot of needs, I might look to grab pass rush round one and target this guy afterwards.

  32. Jake

    Has anyone on the blog watched any film on Noah Fant the TE from Iowa? He seems crazy fast for that size almost looks like a big version of Travis Kelce. Great hands and routes. Not sure how good of a blocker he is because I only watched a short highlight video of him. Him and a hopefully healthy dissly would give us a great TE room.

    • Volume12

      Yup. 42″ vert at his size is insane.

    • FresnoHawk

      I was high on him before the season but so far this season I’m not sold.

  33. Largent80

    I guess since we currently only have 4 picks that this is a good year to have that problem.

  34. Pepper

    Idk Rob. It baffles me that so many thought josh Allen was a top 15 pick last year.. great size and athlete but absolutely nothing under the hood. Scouts/managers drooled over his measurables and thought they could fix all his other short falls. Foolish for sure. I imagine some will come to the podium with that irrational thinking again this year.

    • Tecmo Bowl

      That kind of thing happens all the time, at every position. Our defense has a couple good examples in Dion Jordan and Mingo. Neither had the production of a top 10 pick, but have the measurables for days. Teams reach for elite athletes at premium positions. That will not change. Whatever anyone thinks of Josh Allen he has elite arm strength, has plus athleticism, ‘ideal’ size, who seems to care about the game(unlike a Jamarcus Russell). I absolutely agree Allen was over drafted btw.

      I hope it works in Seattle’s favor this year, and teams reach for QB, WR, LT, CB-effectively pushing quality DL down to us.

      • Volume12

        Of.course teams will. This is a draft we’re talking about. NFL will always value traits above everything else like you said.

      • Pepper

        i agree and it may work out for Allen. Goff looked awful his first year (though I’m still not 100% sold on him yet). My point being exactly what you said. Hopefully (and they most certainly will) there will be some GMs who reach or make bad calls on talent. Resulting in some of these tantalizing d line prospects to fall in our range.

    • Rob Staton

      Maybe so but it’s also worth noting how perfect Allen was physically. He ticked every single box. There isn’t anyone like that in this class.

    • Volume12

      hE biG

    • FresnoHawk

      It gets windy in Buffalo, top 15 for a future QB star seems like a bargain to me.

    • John_s

      Well this vid of his game against the supposed best defense in the league, the Vikings is example 1A why teams were high on him.

      • Pepper

        I don’t deny it, the kid flashes when he can put all the pieces together. I just don’t see him becoming consistent ever. He had problems with accuracy throughout college and never really improved.. you want to see a resume of clear progression each season. He needs to improve quickly before either his confidence is complete shot or he runs out of opportunities. And he’s started his career already behind the developmental curve. Just my opinion though, would prefer he becomes great.

        • John_s

          His college numbers are very similar to Drew Bledsoe. Drew was had 5 years in the NFL of over 60% completion, but had a darn good career.

          Josh has all the tools to be a great QB. It’s up to him to improve but also up to Buffalo to surround him with weapons to help him.

  35. Sea Mode

    Wow, you can totally see what a passionate dude Fluker is and how that rubs off on his teammates. It looks like he is legit holding back tears at the end when PC offers the game ball up for Paul Allen.

    Seahawks All Access – Week 8 at Lions

    • BobbyK

      Fluker is a Pro Bowl guard this year. I don’t think it’s any coincidence the run game was terrible the first two weeks he missed. And I think that’s the reason they threw more those first two games, too. He’s in the running for Seahawks MVP consideration, imo. Sure, they’d be screwed if they lost Wilson – but if you’re reading this – you know what I mean.

    • Matt

      DJ Fluker is what is best/pure in pro sports. He has overcome a ton of adversity. He’s a really positive spirit. He truly doesn’t seem to take advantage of anything. Not to get all soft on this blog, but he just comes across as a “grateful person.” Grateful people seem to have the best perspective, even if they are millionaire football players.

  36. Volume12

    Imagine ever using PFF. They rally just gave their defensive player of the year week award to a dude who got shredded all game long. Gave up 8 catches for 114 yds and 2 TDs.

    • Sea Mode

      I use the free stuff to check out names I might not otherwise find, but paying for it…

      • Volume12

        Oh there’s definitely an appeal to it and it has some advantages, but the whole ‘grades’ thing is just…They lose me with that every time.

    • McZ

      Occasional lapses aside, I think they are doing a good job, in general. Their PFFELO is a bit weird, but what stats system is not!?Their mid-season all-rookie team is spot on.

      • Volume12

        Don’t they have WR DJ Moore ranked as their highest rookie WR? Over Calvin Ridley? I like Moore a lot, he was my favorite WR coming out last year, and is playing well, but do they take things like manufactured touches into consideration? It wouldn’t appear so.

        • McZ

          Persistence is a huge part of their system. And Ridley had two games, where he was effectually void. He also played less effective secondaries.

          I think, Moore and Ridley is close, but I can see where they come from. I think, Moore also had a larger impact on his franchise.

          In the end it’s stats, nothing to get a heated debate over.

    • Dylanlep

      Sorry Vol, I think he was actually named NFC Defensive Player of the Week by the NFL and it was PFF pointing out how absurd that was because he had given up 8 catches on 9 attempts. Not that PFF was themselves naming him their defensive player of the week.

      • Volume12

        lol u don’t got to be sorry my man. Thanks for the clarification.

        Still not a huge fan of PFF though.

  37. Volume12

    This CBS mock is vomit inducing. They once had Mason Rudolph going #1 overall so not sure why I’m surprised. Do they watch the product?

    – Kelvin Harmon at #2 overall?
    – Josh Allen in the top 5?
    -Deionte Thompson to Cleveland? They got 2 good safeties!
    – JJ Arcega-Whiteside in the top 10?
    – QB Ryan Finley in the 1st?

    I do like BC’s Chris Lindstrom and W. Virginia’s Yodney Cajuste in there though.

    • Gohawks5151

      We already have a TE named Fant. Thanks.

    • Tecmo Bowl

      They had Duke QB Jones at #2 a week or 2 ago. CBS mock drafts are a joke. Not convinced they watch either.

      • Rob Staton

        The CBS mocks are horrendous. This time last year they had Chukwuma Okorafor as the #1 overall pick and pedalled a Saquon Barkley going in the late first schtick for the whole season. Just contrarian BS.

  38. Sea Mode

    I think SDB is gonna nail the late round CB pick again this year. Just sayin’. 😉

  39. Trevor

    I loved this past draft for PC / JS considering how little draft capital they had. I even liked the Penney pick and think he will end up being a stud. The play of Carson and Davis makes him a little redundant but given the disaster that was the Hawks run game last year could they really take a chance on Carson staying healthy etc.

    If Dissly can come back healthy he looks like a stud and Dickson, Flowers have the potential to be great. Add in Griffin, Green etc. and it was the best draft in years.

    All that being said with playing the Chargers I was thinking can you imagine if Derwin James falls one more pick. The Hawks get their stud Safety. Then trade Earl for a 2nd and use that pick on an RB likely. Add him to this secondary with Pete’s coaching and you would have the best young secondary in the league. Would have avoided the Earl drama as well.

    It is amazing what a difference one spot in the draft order can make.

    I really liked Tedric coming out of Colorado and think he has played well so far. He seems like a really smart player who can read the play pre-snap . I really hope he can develop into a ball Hawk as that is the one thing this secondary lacks right now. Both young CB (Flowers and Griffin) have been amazing given their youth but neither seems like a ball Hawk in the Sherm / Maxi mould.

    If we go DL with pick #1 as expected in this years draft what is the 2nd biggest need? Perhaps TE if Dissly’s return is uncertain or some depth at CB?

    • cha

      They might be able to go BPA if they get someone they really like with their first pick.

      But for filling roster holes I’d prioritize them.

      1-I wouldn’t be opposed to them doubling up on DL with their next pick too. They might not be able to afford a big ticket FA DL after resigning Clark. Maybe a mid-level option. But pass rushing isn’t going out of style anytime soon, and so a combo platter of EDGE and an interior DL rusher at first 2 picks would be great. Enable the Hawks to mix & match their rotation and let the rookies impact like Bruce Irvin did his first year – 20% of the snaps = 8 sacks. Shamar Stephen & Q-Jeff are FAs next year, and who knows what is going on with Naz. PC said Sunday they benched him because he didn’t fit what they were trying to do in their game plan. Hmmm…

      2-Maybe a dynamic LB if there is one for WILL if KJ leaves. But I’d like to see what Shaquem can do on defense before the year is over. Only 3 snaps in the Oakland game on D since the Denver game.

      3-Another mauler of a guard to groom behind Fluker & Sweezy would be good.

      4-Break everyone’s brain and go RB. McKissic & Davis are FA’s so they may or may not be on the team next year, who knows about Prosise, and Carson will still need injury protection.

    • Rob Staton

      They wouldn’t have drafted Derwin James


        Because the Hawks don’t draft DB’s early unless they’re future HoFers?

    • Volume12

      If that can’t or don’t retain Coleman I think so. Could be a TE, maybe they double dip back to back on the D-line. W/o looking, I’m like 90% positive that Seattle has always drafted a certain position at least twice every year under PC/JS.

      I actually think CB is the 2nd strongest position this year behind the D-line.

    • Volume12

      Keep an eye on Temple’s Rock Ya-Sin (6’2, 190 lbs.). Fantastic. Incredible backstory, wears one of the famed Temple single digit jerseys, has gone 588 snaps w/o a missed tackle. He’s gritty as hell.

      • Trevor

        He definitely has a Seahawk look to him for sure. Definitely a guy to keep on the radar!

    • Tecmo Bowl

      “I really liked Tedric coming out of Colorado and think he has played well so far. He seems like a really smart player who can read the play pre-snap . I really hope he can develop into a ball Hawk as that is the one thing this secondary lacks right now.” Trevor

      100%. The last 3 games coincide with T2’s first 3 starts- 19 tackles 2 PD 1 INT 1 FF. Vs Detroit he missed 1 easy pick and was in position for another on a tipped ball in the end zone. There will be an occasional lapse in coverage and missed tackle, that’s expected in growing pains. Feeling confident that once the game slows down a bit for T2 the TO’s will come.

  40. TJ

    Rob, any thoughts on Boise State’s QB Brett Rypien? He has a good arm and is putting up good numbers this season

    • Rob Staton

      I’ve not had access to Boise State unfortunately.

    • FresnoHawk

      Big game coming up with Fresno State lets see how he does against a real Defense including one the best secondaries in college football. QB Marcus Mcmaryion Fresno State might be the sleeper your looking for. Fresno State WR Keshawn Johnson is breaking records at Fresno State.

  41. DC

    Re-looking at the roster after 7 games with an eye toward our own 2019 FA’s it seems like…
    These guys WILL be Seahawks in 2019;
    UFA Frank Clark. Boy gonna get PAID. The franchise tag will likely be $18.5M-ish if it is needed.
    UFA D.J. Fluker. He is the definition of a ‘core’ player. A contract with heavy ties to per game bonuses?
    RFA George Fant. He’s restricted & part of the re-formed identity. A 2nd round tender?
    ERFA David Moore. Duh!

    Depending on price & health the Hawks would love to keep K.J., Sweezy, Coleman & Davis around.

    • Elmer

      Agree, this appears to be a good year to concentrate on re-signing our own FA’s.

      Is Mingo going to be a FA after this year? He seems like one to consider retaining, and I wonder about Kendricks as well depending on his legal status with the insider trading.

      • GerryG

        Mingo signed a two year deal

  42. charlietheunicorn

    What are the blogs opinion of Houstons QB D’Eriq King?

    I was just reading an article about him and I’m seeing many of the same knocks on him as RW coming out of college? I guess the only knock I could see would be level of competition, but the kid produces…. 28 TD / 5 INT right now and around a 64% completion clip…

    There is a bit of chatter he might declare this year, but I’m finding this a bit hard to believe. I don’t think he would be above a late 3rd rounder…. but with a weak QB class…. maybe he would rise.

  43. charlietheunicorn

    While we are at it, a RB has come to my attention who seems like he might be a fit with Seattle…

    Benny Snell Jr., RB University of Kentucky. Very productive and near ideal size for what Seattle likes… 5’11 and 223 lbs.

    • Rob Staton

      I think Snell will go in the top-50

  44. AlaskaHawk

    I watched the Raiders vs 49ers game last night. 49ers trying out there second backup QB Nick Mullen and he looked pretty good. He went 12 for 17 with 167 yards and 2 touchdowns the first half. I’m left wondering whether he is a hidden gem that will give them hope for the rest of the season, or whether the Raiders are really that bad.

    Anyway, I’ve gone from thinking the two games against the 49ers are easy wins, to thinking they could be difficult but winnable. I think they are for real. The 49ers defense played well, shutting down Raiders, and the Mullen performed well enough to earn a new contract last night. So it should be an interesting matchup.

    • Rob Staton

      I think it’s hard to judge. The Raiders are a disaster. A shambles.

  45. DC

    Will the Huskies wake up this week and right the ship vs The Tree? I hope so. There’s still an outside chance of winning the Pac-12. Let’s at least take it all the way to Pullman.

  46. Mark Souza

    Wow, Ed Oliver going #3? Glad someone else is going to make that mistake. He has bust written all over him. He certainly, physique-wise, looks the part. But playing in the American conference, playing against that level of competition, he should be a man playing among boys. But he’s not. He sort of disappears. He is on pace to have fewer sacks in his career than Reggie White had in his senior season, and Reggie was playing SEC competition week in and week out.

    To me, Oliver is a third or fourth rounder drafted to play in a DL rotation – a serviceable space eater. I would expect a 1st rounder to be an All Pro candidate in a couple years. If Oliver isn’t jumping off the stat sheet now, he’s going to totally disappear when the level of competition jumps 5-fold from the American conference to the NFL.

    Pretty sure he’ll blow the combine away. But those numbers aren’t tackles and sacks. If I was going to put the “Looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane” label on anyone in this draft, it would be him. Am I the only one who feels this way.

    • H

      Is Reggie White really a fair standard for any player?

      Khalil Mack played for for Buffalo, so playing in the Group of 5 and being an elite prospect aren’t mutually exclusive.

      Oliver is an unbelievable athlete, who finds ways to make an impact despite opposing teams building their whole gameplan around him everyweek.

      • Tecmo Bowl

        Reggie White is the best DL I’ve ever seen. If Reggie is the bar you will always fall short.

    • Rob Staton

      He doesn’t look like Tarzan and play like Jane at all.

      I’ve consistently voiced reservations about Oliver and regulars will be well aware of my concerns.

      But his issue is not looking good and playing weak. It’s simply this. He’s undersized and therefore doesn’t have a natural next level position. He isn’t a DE but he’s 275lbs. I’d be very wary playing him as an every down DT at that size.

      But you can’t accuse him of playing like Jane when he’s among the national leaders for TFL’s and plays his ass off every week.

      • charlietheunicorn

        Do you think he will be a situational pass rusher type? Not great value at #3 (for example) but could still be highly productive in the right scheme fit…. like a DE in a 3-4. Something keeps whispering to me Raiders about this guy…….

        • Rob Staton

          His size would suggest situational rusher teams have to work out his fit.

          If he’s 290lbs at the combine that would allay some fears but he’s currently about 275.

      • H

        He is undersized for a DT, but it’s also true that his best attribute for Houston is his run defence so Im not sure he can’t be an every down player.

        I like him as a one gapping terror, probably best suited as a 3-4 DE (basically what Donald is doing for LAR this year).

        • Rob Staton

          I don’t really agree that his best attribute is run defense — after all, he’s not controlling the LOS and occupying two blocks, managing his gaps with discipline. He’s a head-down shoot through the gap, quickness type. And things are so spread out in college. Yes there’s a bit more of that in the NFL these days but a truly great run defender plants the anchor and is just immovable, has that ability to disengage without losing gap discipline, can keep a blocker off his frame, stay clean and read the gap while controlling two gaps. None of that is Ed Oliver. You couldn’t watch him and say — his run defense translates. His quickness and ability to shoot gaps does — but you put a 275lbs on the field every down and he’s going to give up some plays.

          • H

            Very fair points

    • Elmer

      Don’t know about the Tarzan part, but in general it’s true that some prospects are better at producing Combine results than they are at playing football.

      • Rob Staton

        That’s not what Ed Oliver is though.

        Ed Oliver can play. He has been extremely productive this season and is among the league leaders for TFL’s. He plays his ass off every week. He’s not just an athlete who will test well. He has tape and production in college to match.

        The problem is all about his fit at the next level. Too small to play as an every down DT currently, not long enough to play DE. Not even sure about his fit at the five tech. It’s a dilemma teams need to work out.

        • Hawk Eye

          how does he compare to Solomon Thomas?
          he does not seem like a top 3 pick for SF the last 2 years, but he seemed to be a freak athlete and productive in college

          • Rob Staton

            Thomas could play end. Had the frame for it.

    • Volume12

      Traits over stats. Always. One reason why I was such a big fan for example of Danielle Hunter at LSU.

  47. Shibu

    Watching Schotty’s press conference, I’m not sure if I’m just imagining this but he really looks like he’s having a fun time right now. It’s cool to watch because it just seems like this squad is having a lot of fun without seeming cocky. I like that they’re giving more responsibility to Russell, the man just knows how to make plays.

  48. Gerry Griesel

    30 mph wind gusts and rain in the forecast for Sunday. Running doesn’t matter though;)

  49. Coleslaw

    I know it makes a lot of sense to just re-sign all our guys, but one guy I would just love to get is Landon Collins. Him and BMac would be interchangeable at FS and SS, allowing us to get real creative. Safety market is trash so he might be cheap enough to pull the trigger, he is a bonafide baller and could complete the future LOB with Griffin, BMac, Collins, Coleman, and Flowers. That would be a young, cheap secondary locked up for years. You could keep that unit together long term.

    • Rob Staton

      I’m wary of Collins. Will be expensive and his play has regressed after a good start.

      • Hawk Eye

        Collins is now more Name than Game.
        Have to stick with the plan and avoid big name and expensive FA’s, unless they are a terror on the pass rush. But those guys do not come up very often.

    • cha

      I heard Collins was on the trading block and there were no takers. They traded Snacks for a 5th rounder so I can’t imagine their asking price was all that high.

    • Aaron

      Tedric Thompson getting no love from nobody, well at least most everybody. PFF likes him…

      • Volume12

        Tedric’s played well. Would like to see him not get caught flat-rooted as much but that’ll come with more reps.

        Honestly though? The secondary has always been all PC. No one has mastered except for maybe Monte Kiffin the pattern matching concept like he has.

  50. Sea Mode

    Interesting listen with DJ Fluker on Driving with Gee. I’ll link straight to the part where he is asked to describe each of his fellow linemen, then is asked about Ifedi in particular. Pretty neat and what a difference he has made.

    Driving with Gee – DJ Fluker Heads to Halloween with the Hawks

    • Rob Staton

      Great piece

    • DC

      Thanks for that! Fluke is a godsend for this team. Having a good OL now is like taking your first drink of water after crossing the Sahara. It’s been a while. Check out the size of those MITTS!!!

    • charlietheunicorn


      There were a fair share of comments with…..


  51. Volume12

    Iowa St WR Hakeem Butler is dominating week in and week out at this point. His combine will be interesting. Just a monster. Looking like a 1st rounder.

    Randy Moss was my favorite WR prospect of all time so I get fired up when I see dudes like him and N’Keal Harry just ‘Mossing’ defenders all the time.

  52. Volume12

    Auburn’s Derrick Brown gets a lot of love and rightfully so although he’s a bit of an upside pick, but why is no one talking about his teammate Nick Coe (6’5, 280 lbs.)? Is it due to him being a R-SO?

    He’s dominated in 3 games of I’ve seen of Auburn. Probably one of the most under the radar prospect’s right now.

    • Rob Staton

      Coe played well today but Brown was sensational.

  53. cha

    Raiders just cut Bruce Irvin loose. Glad he’s free of that team.

    • Volume12

      Only 9 more years of Jon Gruden.

    • Elmer

      I wonder how a Raiders vs Bills game would turn out Gruden is putting pressure on himself to succeed with the draft choices he is stockpiling. I won’t say it, but some would call it tanking.

      Also wonder if the Hawks will have any interest in acquiring a 31 year old Bruce Irvin.

      • GhostChair

        I really hope so. I’ve always been a fan of Irvin, and I think he’d be a great teammate to have around. On a side note, I had a terrible nightmare that we traded Bobby Wagner for a first round pick and I wanted to cry.

  54. Volume12

    Can we replace Joe Buck or Al Michaels with Gus Johnson?

    This W.Virginia/Texas game is bonkers!

    • Rob Staton

      I can’t stand Gus Johnson personally. Way over the top. Just sounds ridiculous to me.

      And I absolutely think Buck and Michaels are at the very top of the broadcasting game. Never understood the hate they get. For me Johnson shouting and screaming is about as enjoyable as my one-year-old waking up screaming at 4am.

      • Volume12

        lol. I can see how he’d be a turn off for people. Kinda like with Mauro Ranallo in WWE with me. Can’t stand the guy and his incessant yelling and pop culture references. Takes me outta the match/angle.

        Buck just sounds like a radio guy calling baseball which is fine. Perfect for that game. Him and Michaels aren’t bad by no means, but boring. At least IMO.

        • Rob Staton

          For me they’re the best in the business. I’ve tried to learn from them for my own commentating career. They’re absolute masters IMO.

    • Kenny Sloth

      Is Will Grier an NFL QB? I’ve seen him hit the deep out with velocity and he definitely has a better arm than Herbert.

      Herbert throws more ducks than are on his team

      • Volumes12

        I think so. That throw he made at the end of the game was the best one I’ve seen all season from anyone.

        • Kenny Sloth

          Oh god. Drifting right unbalanced platform threw a moonbeam to the very very back of the endzone from 30+

          Then a timing route slant perfectly placed in the body of his slanting receiver for the 2pts and the win.

          75 yard game winning crunch time drive. That’s NFL stuff

      • FresnoHawk

        Arm strength we will find out at the combine. He’s definitely an NFL QB how good not sure yet. I think there will be a few QB surprises at the combine. Herbert & Lock throw bombs short and I don’t know why.

        • Kenny Sloth

          Well Lock can actually press the deep ball

  55. AlaskaHawk

    Note to Pete Carroll: Just pick someone from Alabama. That is a crazy good football team. Ruggs is making some terrific catches including a one hander. Harris running hard. Good blocking. Great defense. I think they could beat some pro teams.

    • Volume12

      The quality of defensive play for both teams is staggering to watch.

      ‘Bama LB Mack Wilson shoots gaps like no other LB in the country.

    • Volumes12

      This ‘Bama team is USC of the mid aughts/2000’s. Best HC, best collection of talent, confident alpha males, shouldn’t lose a single game ever. They’re boat racing an LSU squad that dominated an excellent Georgia team.

      There’s no competition.

      • cha

        LSU had -3 yards rushing through 3 quarters. Ended with 12 yards rushing.

    • Alaskahawk

      Alabama defense held LSU to 12 yards running the ball. What a great defensive effort.

  56. Volume12

    A’Shawn Robinson or Carl Winslow from ‘Family Matters?’ You be the judge.

  57. Kenny Sloth

    Who on the seahawks is a pro bowler this year?

    Russ, Tyler, Bobby, Dickson, Fluker, maybe Brown Britt or Ifedi, Maybe McDougald or Shaquill

    • Aaron

      Offense: Wilson, Brown, Britt, and Lockett
      Defense: Clark and Wagner
      Special Teams: Dickson

      • Kenny Sloth

        Fluker easily in over Britt for me, if I had to choose.

        • H

          DJ Fluker isnt just probowl, he’s all pro. Who else has pancaked Suh and Snacks?

    • charlietheunicorn

      McDougald should get some love, but not likely to hear his name as a pro bowler.

  58. DC

    Huskies held on in a must win game. Hopefully the return of some wounded folks will aid their final stretch run. Bye week should help.

  59. charlietheunicorn

    Bruce Irvin DE – Unemployed

    Bringing him back would make way too much sense. Need some pass rush help… and he has played in and with this defense for a majority of his career. I wouldn’t waiver claim pick him up, but after that… definitely have to kick the tires.

  60. Volume12

    God that Wazzu/Cal game was…awesome! A Mike Leach team scoring only 19 and still getting the W?Miami/Duke played in a goddamn monsoon, W.Virginia/Texas was a shootout in the 1st half then all FGs early 2nd half, all hell broke loose after that. ‘Bama pistol whipped LSU.

    What a day of CFB! They needed this weekend.

    ‘Bama’s Isaiah Buggs might be the guy this year for the Seahawks. Let’s see how how he tests and he doesn’t look long, but man if his measurable check out? He’s seems to be the kind of chip on shoulder, too 50 pick they’d target.

    • Rob Staton

      Buggs is really good but not sure about Seattle being a fit. They haven’t drafted many players like him. Short and squatty with short arms playing the edge but might need to kick inside. I think they’ll continue to look for long, lean EDGE rushers or prototypes inside.

  61. Ground_Hawk

    The Chargers OL is going to a test for Seattle’s DL. LAC’s OL has allowed fewer than 10 sacks this year. If the Seahawks manage 2 or more sacks that could be considered a victory, for the trenches.

    • Rob Staton

      A lot of that is down to Rivers.

      The key today IMO is to limit the damage. Hold them to field goals. Make explosive plays on offense.

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