Two-round NFL mock draft: 2nd December

Notes at the bottom…

1. Browns — Mitch Trubisky (QB, North Carolina)
2. 49ers — Myles Garrett (EDGE, Texas A&M)
3. Jaguars — Leonard Fournette (RB, LSU)
4. Bears — Jonathan Allen (DE, Alabama)
5. Jets — Jabrill Peppers (S, Michigan)
6. Bengals — Reuben Foster (LB, Alabama)
7. Titans (via Rams) — Tim Williams (EDGE, Alabama)
8. Panthers — Jamal Adams (S, LSU)
9. Cardinals — Takkarist McKinley (EDGE, UCLA)
10. Colts — Dalvin Cook (RB, Florida State)
11. Packers — Marlon Humphrey (CB, Alabama)
12. Saints — Gareon Conley (CB, Ohio State)
13. Browns (via Eagles) — Malik Hooker (S, Ohio State)
14. Chargers — Justin Evans (S, Texas A&M)
15. Titans — Tre’Davious White (CB, LSU)
16. Bills — O.J. Howard (TE, Alabama)
17. Eagles (via Vikings) — Mike Williams (WR, Clemson)
18. Buccaneers — Obi Melifonwu (S, Connecticut)
19. Steelers — Deshaun Watson (QB, Clemson)
20. Broncos — Jarrad Davis (LB, Florida)
21. Texans — Charles Harris (EDGE, Missouri)
22. Ravens — John Ross (WR, Washington)
23. Washington — Christian McCaffrey (RB, Stanford)
24. Dolphins — Quincy Wilson (CB, Florida)
25. Lions — Derek Barnett (DE, Tennessee)
26. Falcons — Demarcus Walker (DE, Florida State)
27. Giants — Sidney Jones (CB, Washington)
28. Chiefs — Cam Sutton (CB, Tennessee)
29. Seahawks — Garett Bolles (T, Utah)
30. Patriots — Marshon Lattimore (CB, Ohio State)
31. Raiders — Derrick Nnadi (DT, Florida State)
32. Cowboys — Solomon Thomas (DE, Stanford)

33. Browns — Ryan Anderson (LB, Alabama)
34. 49ers — Zach Cunningham (LB, Vanderbilt)
35. Bears — Jalen Tabor (CB, Florida)
36. Jaguars — Budda Baker (S, Washington)
37. Jets — Taco Charlton (EDGE, Michigan)
38. Bengals — Caleb Brantley (DT, Florida)
39. Panthers — Malik McDowell (DE, Michigan State)
40. Rams — Marcus Maye (S, Florida)
41. Cardinals — Cordrea Tankersley (CB, Clemson)
42. Packers — Alex Anzalone (LB, Florida)
43. Saints — Dalvin Tomlinson (DT, Alabama)
44. Eagles — Adoree’ Jackson (CB, USC)
45. Chargers — Cam Robinson (T, Alabama)
46. Colts — Carl Lawson (EDGE, Auburn)
47. Browns (via Titans) — Dan Feeney (G, Indiana)
48. Bills — Desmond King (CB, Iowa)
49. Vikings — Ryan Ramczyk (T, Wisconsin)
50. Buccaneers — Jake Butt (TE, Michigan)
51. Steelers — Evan Engram (TE, Ole Miss)
52. Broncos — D’onta Foreman (RB, Texas)
53. Texans — Patrick Mahomes (QB, Texas Tech)
54. Ravens — Bucky Hodges (TE, Virginia Tech)
55. Washington — Vita Vea (DT, Washington)
56. Dolphins — Dorian Johnson (G, Pittsburgh)
57. Lions — Kevin King (CB, Washington)
58. Falcons — Chris Wormley (DT, Michigan)
59. Giants — Dion Dawkins (T, Temple)
60. Chiefs — JuJu Smith-Schuster (WR, USC)
61. Seahawks — Haason Reddick (LB, Temple)
62. Patriots — Josey Jewell (LB, Iowa)
63. Raiders — Corey Davis (WR, Western Michigan)
64. Cowboys — Lowell Lotulelei (DT, Utah)

Players considered in the first two rounds for the Seahawks this week:

Garett Bolles (T, Utah)
Derrick Nnadi (DT, Florida State)
D’onta Foreman (RB, Texas)
Chris Wormley (DT, Michigan)
Any of Washington’s three defensive tackles if they declare (Vea, Gaines, Qualls)
Dalvin Tomlinson (DT, Alabama)
Any interior pass rusher/disruptor or inside/out DL

Possible mid round targets:

Adam Bisnowaty (T, Pittsburgh)
Elijah Hood (RB, North Carolina)
Shalom Luani (S, Washington State)
Jehu Chesson (WR, Michigan)
Dante Pettis (WR, Washington)

— Mitch Trubisky isn’t the best player in the draft but he’s probably the best quarterback. The Cleveland Browns fudged the Carson Wentz situation and can’t afford to be caught short again. Rather than take any risks in this mock they get their quarterback and move on.

— The Steelers taking a quarterback in round one? The often-injured Ben Roethlisberger turns 35 in March. Pittsburgh needs to start planning for life after Ben.

After yesterday’s needs-piece I wanted to give the Seahawks an O-liner and an impact defensive lineman. Unfortunately the board didn’t fall that way. Bolles instantly helps the running game and Reddick provides the defense with another gritty, athletic playmaker. Reddick leads the country in TFL’s plus he looks and sounds like a Seahawks defender.

— If Bolles wasn’t the pick in round one I would’ve gone with Derrick Nnadi.

— I’ll probably do an article on D’Onta Foreman soon. I spend more time deliberating on Foreman than any other player at the moment. I’m concerned he was only a two-star recruit but that’s not always an indicator of anything (Russell Wilson was a two-star prospect according to Rivals). His upright running style is a little concerning (will he get levelled?). Yet his breakaway speed, lateral agility and balance is interesting for his size. I like his personality and it probably fits Seattle. I suspect they could use a bell-cow. There aren’t a plethora of options for the Seahawks if they feel that adding a running back is the key to improving the run game. Bring on the combine.


  1. Volume12

    To be fair though, at 240 lbs his running style is going to be a bit upright.

    Robert Turbin was also a 2 star recruit.

    I just keep going back to PC mentioning his ideal size at RB. ‘So Rawls is your ideal back?’

    PC: Well no. If he was 6’2, 240 and still had the mentality of Rawls.

    Wouldn’t shock me one bit to see them pull the trigger on RB Joe Mixon either.

    • Kenny Sloth

      I tend to think that comment had more to do with Leonard Fournette.

      Surprising that his ideal is quite a bit taller than their tendency which seems to be more around 5’11.

      Perhaps those shorter backs have more dog in em because they feel they have something to prove.

      I’m 5’6, but I got a chip on my shoulder, stand about 7 foot.

      • Nathan

        I don’t think it’s got anything to do with being short giving you angry attitude.

        It’s to do with body position.

        Tacklers hated frank gore in his prime, because they couldn’t get under him and force him back, he’d get low in contact and get that extra yard.

        • Kenny Sloth

          Isn’t he like, renowned for being pissed off for greatness?

          • Nathan

            One can exist without the other, just as both can exist in the same person without being in any way linked.

            Why aren’t short basketballers really good in that case?

    • DavidM2

      Hawks were just scouting a Mixon game again. Was thinking the same thing when I read that.

    • Rob Staton

      I’m not sold on Mixon in Seattle personally. Not at the moment.

      My question on Foreman would be — does he really have the mentality of Rawls? All I kept thinking about when PC said that was he’s fantasising about Fournette (who does have that mentality).

    • Nate

      Pete mentioned larteral quickness and agility when talking about heght. As in he would love to have a 6-2 player with the cutting ability of Rawls for their zbs but obviously thats hard to find.

    • rowdy

      I was banging the drum for david johnson in the draft and a number of people knocked him for an upright running style. Watching him play didn’t concern me about his style.

      • HawkFan907

        I don’t see a problem with an upright running style as long as they have explosion in their lower body. If they show the ability to break tackles and show well in the broad and vertical at the combine I say go for it. LeVeon Bell, Johnson, and you can say even AP run upright, and they all have roughly the same build. It is the mentality they run with that is more important.

        • Seahawcrates

          Eric Dickerson had an upright style and turned out to be pretty decent. Tall too.

    • Ishmael

      Why? There’s nothing in Mixon’s athletic profile that suggests they’ll look at him, plus the very, very, ugly off-field stuff. What am I missing?

  2. Volume12

    While I know WR isn’t a huge need, this James Washington, WR, OK St. is very intriguing. He’s got a unique build. Some after the catch similarities to Golden Tate.

    Former track star, standout basketball player, former baseball player, played tennis and golf, and is a black belt in tae kwon doe. Was also on the student council. He’s an avid hunter too. Ran a 10.81 in the 100 meter dash and triple jumped 46.5′. That says to me, he’s a guy that lives for competition.

    He’s a good, not great route runner, but this guy doesn’t have to be open. He’s one of the best jump ball specialists I’ve seen in a few years. Also love the fact he dominates the red line.

    • Kenny Sloth


      That’s quite a profile,

      Just watched him against Central Michigan. He’s not great off the line, but his competitiveness is on full display. He’s also got some issues with hand fighting and attacking the ball.
      He’s a very fluid athlete.

      That CMU CB #7 Amari Coleman is also from Flint and he had some good coverage on both Westbrook and Washington.

      Mason Rudolph is Captain Overthrow, ain’t he?

      • Volume12

        Yeah he is. Has a tendency to throw high.

        Watch the Pitt game. His adjustments to the ball in the air is incredible.

  3. Nathan

    Any thoughts on Williams as a potential FA pick up?

    How does 5 mil compare to the draft capital on a high pick?

    • Volume12

      IDK if they picked up his 5th year option, they’d be stupid not too, but Minnesota DT Sharrif Floyd is a guy I’d love to see Seattle bring aboard.

      I think its only $1 mil more than a 1st round pick, but I’m not 100% sure about that. Sly Williams looked really good his 1st couple years, but this year he’s strugglex. 2 reasons for that IMO.

      1. He’s playing too many snaps. Probably way more than 60% or so.
      2. He’s probably more suited for a 4-3 defense.

      He’d be a nice pickup.

    • Rob Staton

      Sly Williams — only one sack and three TFL’s this year.

      Would’ve hoped for more. Liked him at UNC but he’s older, was about 25 coming into the league.

  4. DavidM2


    Saw this interesting piece on Foreman today.

    • Volume12

      That’s an interesting article. Had no idea Wazzu was interested in him. Or that Mack Brown recruited him.

      I like the fact he plays with that chip on his shoulder.

    • C-Dog

      Very interesting piece. Shows a lot about his determination and grit.

  5. Nathan

    No Demarcus walker in first 2 rounds?

    • Rob Staton

      Editing error.

      • Volume12

        I thought that same thing. Was like, ‘wow. Rob must have soured on him bit time.’ ?

  6. Kenny Sloth

    Ok I was way off last night re; Dalvin Cook. I just went back to his tape and he plays above his weight and has phone booth agility. Easily the second best back in the class.

    Foreman on the other hand plays like a ballerina and I seriously doubt his measurements are accurate.

    • Rob Staton

      Foreman doesn’t look 250lbs to me. Maybe not even 240lbs.

      • Kenny Sloth

        He looks 220. He gets brought down by arm tackles a lot.

    • Volume12

      Cook is incredible. Personally he’s my favorite back in this class.

      Yeah, I think Foreman is more 5’11-6’0 and 235-240 or so.

      • Kenny Sloth

        He really is incredible.

        This plate of crow is delicious!! Foot in my mouth for dessert.

      • Trevore

        He is mine to Vol. a true 3 down back who is said to have a great attitude and be a great leader as well. He has been really durable as well. Reminds me a lot of Jamal Charles. I have really liked him from his freshman year when I thought he was the key to that stacked FSU team.

        If Fournettes ankle scares anyone he could easily be the first RB of the board and a top 15 pick as Rob has mocked.

  7. Kenny Sloth

    Hey, Rob, Vol, I’ve mentioned him before, but Noel Thomas Jr of UConn is a helluva playmaker and plays way above his weight

    • Kenny Sloth

      I’m also starting to like the 25 year old Andreas Knappe a lot more.

    • Kenny Sloth

      JALEN ROBINETTE WR of Air Force looks like a rich man’s Jermaine Kearse

      Check him out!!!

      • The Hawk is Howling

        A Rich Man’s? Hopefully not a P-Rich’s man’s. Just jesting, never heard that one before Ken Dawg you’re a clever boy! Have fun at your party you soon to be again college kid!

        Go Hawks

        • The Hawk is Howling

          Actually I apologise. You’re not Ken Dawg for you are Ken Duck.

          Go Kenny at his Partying!

          Also HAWKS!

          • Kenny Sloth

            Hahaha love ya, Howl!

          • Kenny Sloth

            When I met Rob in Seattle he asked me if I had a favorite college team and I misspoke and told him Oregon Dorks which is actually appropriate this year

  8. C-Dog

    Love the picks of Bolles and Reddick, and the mid round targets of Hood, Chesson, and Bisnotway.

    If the draft were to happen this way, they’d be interesting DT still out there R3, as well; Jaleel Johnson, Carlos Watkins, Jarron Jones, Charles Walker, Elijah Quals, Ryan Glasgow to name a few.

  9. Volume12

    I think this bedlam game (Oklahoma vs OK St) tommorow morning, is a pretty cool game that Seattle is scouting. Looks to be a game for the offensive skill players.

    RBs Samaje Perine & Joe Mixon, WR Dede Westbrook

    WR James Washington, TE Blake Jarwin, DT Vincent Taylor

    • C-Dog

      Volume, re James Washington as a Golden Tate comp, do you see Seattle looking a mor physicality at the WR position? Perhaps RW needing a WR who can fight for contested balls?

      If you didn’t catch it this week, Hugh Millen epically blasted PRich for not even attempting to fight for that ball on the first INT last Sunday, basically saying that if you have a frame like that, you better learn how to fight and scratch in this league or you will find yourself out of it on a hurry. Of course, Golden was terrific at this.

      • The Hawk is Howling

        If only we would have kept Tate instead of Harvin! He would be huge for us right now.

        No Go Hawks on that one.

      • Volume12

        Ouch! I did not catch that.

        Its a good question. Really good question actually. One reason I like Washington is because he’s a deep threat and a go up and get it type of guy.

        Yes, they could use more size and physicality there. I’m not sure if Washington is that type though. But, his athletic profile, production, and skill set fascinates me.

        I do think that Kearse is gone after next year. But, I can’t see them adding a receiver before the 3rd at the earliest.

        However, we know how much they love the sudden, speedy, dynamic receivers that can be ‘under-sized.’

        So, while I do think they need an upgrade for that X WR, my gut tells me not to overlook the types they always seem to hit on.

        • C-Dog

          How are you liking Chesson? Didn’t have a great statistical year, but Rob loves his skill set. I keep seeing him projected 3rd – 4th round range.

          Separate thought; Lavon Coleman is very Seahawky

          • Volume12

            Kind of meh on him. I loved him coming into the year, but something happened to him. Injury? I’m not sure what it is. I worry about his ability to separate and get disrupted in his routes.

            He does look like a great athlete and he’s dealt with adversity to say the least.

            Not my favorite, but I don’t dislike him and could see why Seattle would like him.

    • The Hawk is Howling

      Looks like a great game to watch V12 since you have been enthusiastic about alot of those players. I know Joe Mixon has really messed up but I am not one to judge him yet. His actions are very questionable though he is only still a kid in my Eye’s.

      Go Hawks!

      • Volume12

        Yeah, it should be a really fun game. Big time rivalry too.

        Mixon has that size, lateral quickness, agility, and athleticism that PC was describing. IDK that they draft him, but it wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest.

        And I like Perine too. Might not be the ‘sexiest’ prospect, but damn does he have this pissed off, grown man style to his game. He’d be great value in the 3rd round.

    • matt

      Somehow made it through the regular season without watching OK St. Remember Washington flashing last year. That’s an impressive athletic history he has!

    • Trevor

      I agree Vol I think any of those guys on Oklahoma could be in play for Hawks in Rd #2-3. I have to check out Washington sounds like an interesting guy.

      If Mixon checks out off the field then he could be a steal and you have to think the Hawks would love Westbrooks dynamic playmaking.

  10. CharlieTheUnicorn

    We, as a group, keep getting caught up on specific players.
    But what player (or position) would have the greatest impact from day one on the Seahawks team?

    When I look at position groups that could have the greatest impact RB+OL would be obvious choices. You could conceivably find a starter from any draft pick position in each of these position groups. This seems too simple to me, too straight forward.

    One position group we have not really hit on much, but I could see some serious (1-3rd round pick) draft capital invested in would be TE. This position could kill a few birds with one stone. 1. You can get effective blocking out of the position, improving the rush attack and pass protection, 2. you could also get improved performance out of your #2 TE in the passing game and 3. You would also be able to hopefully have a fully healthy and younger TE stable to play for the next 3-4 years. Graham, draft pick and Vennett would be a pretty good combo. I’m bringing this up, since I have some serious doubts Seattle will retain Willson. Is TE the most pressing need or biggest bang for the buck for a top 3 round pick, I’m not sure…. but I think it should continue to be discussed as a “need” pick when we look at a 2-3 year personnel window for Seattle.

    • The Hawk is Howling

      I hear what you mean Charlie about Tight end. Nick Vannett is supposedly the best Tight End blocker in last year’s! draft and will hopefully come along. I too think Luke double L might get a higher contact offer then Schneider is willing to give and depart. Engram then would be quit enticing to fill Willson’s role, though I don’t know. For me the most important player’s to draft would be OffensiveTackle, Running Back, linebacker to fill Bruce Irvin’s role and another Defense Tackle.

      One thing I think about is every year how many players are going to make this team through the draft and free agency? We have the best core of true elite players in the NFL it feels to me. So while that lasts how much can you truly upgrade and pay the players while remaining under the cap. Basically I’m thinking only a handful of players will change from this season to next. So who is worth the change in a roster spot?

      JS knows, PC knows, and so does Mr. Staton I believe.

      Go Hawks!

      • Volume12

        I could see them grabbing a TE from this class.

        • Kenny Sloth

          This would be the class to do it.

          Sprinkle and Hodges stand out as classic Y’s

          • Volume12

            I think Hodges is more of a big WR. Although it depends on what team takes him.

            I’m a big fan of Jeremy Sprinkle. I see a little Martellus Bennett in his game. He’s got great size, offers plenty in the passing game and in the run game as a blocker, red zone threat with his size, scouts said they love being around him.

            And this cat from Miami? David Njoku is gonna tear the roof off the combine.

            • red

              Sprinkle working out of the backfield as kind of a h back in 2015 tape was cool to see. I would also be interested sprinkles messurables that catch radius gonna be large.

        • D-OZ

          So could I…

      • matt

        This TE class is loaded! Howard, Butt, Sprinkle, Engram, Hikutini, Leggett, Everett all look like day 2 picks.

        They might push the WR’s down a bit.

  11. The Hawk is Howling

    Watched some Elijah Hood for the first time. I like his determination and effort saw him run backwards while keeping his feet going like Beast-Mode did. I’m personally on the Foreman, Coleman train because I think a bigger bruiser back is what we need to wear down the opposing defense.

    Hood to me just seems to small for that role but I have the fraction of College player knowledge that most of you have. I don’t study tape, I watch the Seahawks and Huskies almost exclusively. For that I feel bad for I love this blog and everyone who participates and feel like I have very little to offer besides my enthusiasm.

    Anyway if we do draft Elijah Hood and ge kicks Arse we should definitely name the opposite side of “Hawks Nest” “The Hood” Then are Boys could take em to da Hood!

    Go Hawks and Go Dawgs!

    It’s going to be a fun game to watch Washington against Colorado in the first two state’s to legalise “Weed Bowl” !

    Just like the Hawks verses the Broncos

    I hope everyone has fun with the Weed Bowl.

    Y’all know what I’m sayin? (Kenny Sloth)

    Go Hawks again!

    • Kenny Sloth

      Hahaha I’m not gonna watch it!

      There’s a fat college party tonight.

      Speaking of I was fired this week and it encouraged me to go back to school and I’m just waiting on my financial aid!

      • The Hawk is Howling

        Best wishes to you Kenny Sloth, go get it!

  12. Derron James

    Lavon Coleman is looking nice. He hits the holes hard and plows through defenses as shown so far… What do you guys think?

    • Volume12

      He’s very Seahawky. Maybe Seattle grabs a RB in the first 3 rounds, and then take another one late on day 3 to compete with Collins.

    • KD

      Even though that INT was overturned, what a play by Buddah Baker.

    • The Hawk is Howling

      Well I personally adore Coleman and Pettis and so wish them to be Hawks on Sundays. But what do I know?

      Go Seahawkies!

  13. Volume12

    Colorado’s Jimmie Gilbert is this years Obum Gwachum huh?

  14. Derron James

    Rob, what do you think of Budda baker?

    • The Hawk is Howling

      Rob likes Budda alot he watched the game against Arizona state and loved his closing speed and tackling. I believe he reminded Rob of an Earl esc type safety.

      Go Team yay!

    • Rob Staton

      Like him. Really impressed when I watched him live. Range, hits hard, good blitzer.

      • Tim

        Rob, what’s your take on Xavier Woods? Especially as an alternative to Budda Baker if someone else takes him.

  15. Nathan W.

    The future looks awesome for UW with Taylor Rapp and DJ Beavers on defense. Love Lavon Coleman, he runs with the kind of ferocity that I love.

    • KD

      Agreed on Coleman. I don’t pay attention to these smaller, fast RBs anymore. i really love backs that can power it up the middle. I don’t necessarily think Coleman fits that description as an NFL player, but as a college RB, i love Coleman.

      • Nathan W.

        I think that’s fair. I think I have seen him power it up more this year than ever before, though. Think it’s a recent attitude change.

  16. KD

    The best comparison to John Ross that i can see is Tavon Austin. Very similar players IMO. Hopefully a team other than the Rams or Browns can make use of his talents.

    • C-Dog

      I like Rob’s comp to Brandon Cooks, myself.

  17. Nathan W.

    For COLO I love Thompson and Awuzie.

    • Ukhawk

      Awuzie Was on an island a lot vs Ross. V v impressive.

      • matt

        Thompson and Awuzie are nice prospects. Witherspoon is a prototypical Hawks CB. Jones and King too.

  18. Volume12

    I hope DT Vita Vea declares. Good lord! What a unique player. A playmaker while he also eats up space. He’s covering punts 40 yds down field. Explosive, agile, always hustling and just a massive human being with raw athleticism.

    If Seattle were to go DT in round 1 want this guy (if he comes out). He just impresses me every time I watch him. Put him on a defense with elite edge rushers like Seattle and he’d be unstoppable.

    His ceiling could be Dontari Poe or Haloti Ngata like.

    • Volume12

      I saw a tweet from Bruce Feldman that said when using NextGen stats they had Vea at 19 MPH! Think about that. Most RBs and WRs are right around 21 MPH.

      • The Hawk is Howling

        Damn that’s fast! I’ll take two please!


        I forgot? Sonics maybe?

        No it’s that other team!

        • Kenny Sloth

          GO SOUNDERS

          • The Hawk is Howling

            Oh yeah Go Sounders! Too bad Montreal didn’t win having a packed C-link for the championship would have been so awesome!

    • C-Dog

      I’d flip out of Vea got drafted by Seattle. Not sure if he declares though, unless he goes ape #$% in the CFB playoffs and he practically has to.

      • DC

        He solves the run defense issue and supplies the interior rush all rolled into one ginormous human. I wonder if he would have a similar rise up the draft board like Danny Shelton or Poe had.

        • Volume12

          Yeah he might not declare, but we just saw Miami TE David Njoku do so and hes a R-SO as well.

          Its certainly possible he could rise well out of Seattle’s reach into the top 15-20.

          • matt

            Selfishly hope only 1 of Vea, Qualls and Gaines declare for the draft.

            • C-Dog

              I think Qualls probably stands the greatest chance because he’s a junior, followed by Vea because of his physical freak stature. If I were Gaines, I’d stay in with a chance to solidify myself as a potential first rounder and also chase a title again next year.

    • DC

      You’re right V12. He’s the complete package at DT.

      I only hope he declares if he becomes a Seahawk! He’s got “3 down” skills.

    • Rob Staton

      Really good player, that Washington D-line is loaded.

      • Trevor

        That Washington D is crazy talented. Too bad the Azeem Victor got hurt because I really liked him a lot. Not sure if the offense can move the ball against that Alabama D but the defense will compete that is for sure.

      • Smitty1547

        Selfish as I am, I hope they all stay

        • Volume12

          ‘Bama will eat Udub alive. It won’t even be close.

          • DC

            Imho there’s no need for a playoff this year. I would be happy for the Huskies to go to the Rose Bowl.

            • Volume12

              How come you say that?

              I want Clemson to lose tonight. That way we get the #3 seed and will end up facing Ohio St which is a much better matchup.

              My question is this. USC or Colorado to represent the PAC 12 in the Rose Bowl?

              • DC

                I want Clemson to lose too for the same reason. I don’t want to play against Alabama’s Defence. They are borderline illegal.

                As much as I traditionally despise USC they did beat both UW and CU head to head so I give them the nod for the Rose Bowl.

                • Volume12

                  Got cha.

                  ‘I don’t want to play against Alabama’s Defence. They are borderline illegal.’ I like that. ?

                  The other reason for me is Udub and ‘Bama are my 2 favorite CFB teams.

                  • DC

                    How bout we crown Alabama now and take the next 4 teams into the playoff for second place?

                    So glad that UW got Chris Peterson. It’s been a looooong wait for a great coach.

              • Trevor

                I think it should be USC they have been on fire since the change at QB

  19. Kelly Smith

    I saw a lot about Golden Tate. He has had not been spectacular in Detroit. If he could be had for a 3rd/4th rounder do you make the trade?

    • Sea Mode

      I have considered this before. Just my opinion, but:
      1. I think Detroit is in no hurry to get rid of him given they are entirely dependent on the passing game on offense.
      2. I’m not sure that bridges weren’t burned between him and Seattle (Wilson in particular).
      3. His contract has a $8.3m hit in 2017 and $9.3m in 2018. I think Seattle has other priorities for that kind of money.

      Add in on top of that one of JS precious draft picks, and I just don’t see it. But hey, you never know! Maybe that’s why I don’t work for the Seahawks!

    • C-Dog

      I’d take him back, so long as he stays away from Ciara. 😉

      Sorry, couldn’t help it.

  20. C-Dog

    Simulated Mock beyond Rob’s two rounds. The current theme seems to be running the ball and stopping the run.

    27: R1P27

    59: R2P27

    91: R3P27

    135: R4P32

    206: R6P27

    214: R6P35

    227: R7P9

    245: R7P27

    I love the idea of Seattle taking Garett Bolles R1, they’ve been scouting Utah hard, he has to be on their radar. We’d probably be pretty lucky to get him there.

    IMO, I think we might be pretty lucky to also get Reddick R2, an opportunity to get a freak athlete as rush LB again. I’ve been tweaking a bit all season about how our defense is susceptible to outside runs. In previous years, it’s been hard to go lateral on this defense with Wags, KJ and Bruce on the field. Just too much power, speed, and athleticism. Teams almost had to attack inside. Now, they attacking outside more, with more effect. PC’s 4-3 under requires the Leo and SAM to be interchangeable, which is was they wanted to give Marsh an opportunity to convert, like they converted Irving there? How come Marsh hasn’t yet grasped it when Bruce did? I think perhaps Bruce had some safety in his background, and Marsh was at one time a 300 Lb DT in college. Reddick reportedly has 4.47 speed. Wow. FYI, he started out as a cornerback at Temple, moved to LB, and ended up at DE. Hmm.. pretty interesting stuff.

    Hood fits the mold at RB in the SPARQ, and for reasons obvious, makes a lot of sense R3.

    Ryan Glasgow has impressed me all season long watching Michigan. PFF, for what PF is worth, loves the guy. He’s always seemed pretty steady at the 1 tech on that Wolverine line, and I think has kind of always shown sneaky good athleticism. Watching a lot of Michigan games, drooling over Taco Charlton, and at time Wormley, and even Hurd, I’ve kind of wonder if Glasgow isn’t the guy that makes a lot of that go up front. I’m going to be interested in what he does at the combine. I think he might be more athletic than given credit for. If Seattle goes Bolles over Nnadi, Glasgow could be a good option down the road. I think he could do a little pass rush, as well.

    Tony Pauline recently wrote about him and seems dig him, too, listing him as one of his risers:

    “Ryan Glasgow/DT/Michigan: It was a game for the ages as OSU pulled out a controversial victory in double OT. And while there were plenty of risers on the Michigan side I was most impressed with Glasgow. He posted 2 tackles but also recorded 1.5 tackles for loss and came up with a big sack. What stood out was not recorded on the stat sheet; the way Glasgow attracted the attention of multiple Buckeye blockers on the inside, holding the point and occupying the gaps as well as making plays during important moments of the game. Last year Glasgow’s brother made a mad dash up draft boards during Shrine week and the Senior Bowl but Ryan already has a head start.”

    I like Seattle going OL again, adding another guard to the competition. I really, REALLY like Seattle drafting Freddie Stevenson as an athletic FB to bring back some play making to the position a la Spencer Ware, for the love of God.

    WR feels like a slowly going need. To this point, P Rich feels like a bust, and Kearse needs to get his mojo back. Hugh Millen absolutely blasted P Rich for not making any attempt to fight for the ball the amounted to the first INT against the bucks, basically saying, in epic fashion, if you have that frame and you want to play in this league, you have to learn to play with toughness or you will play your way out of it in a hurry. P Rich is injured for the Panthers game, it will be interesting to see if they get McEvoy involved, and if shows some things, it will be interesting to see if he stays involved more here on out, and even if we see them call up Kasen Williams. They dumped C Mike in a hurry, when it was clear Prosise had promise and Rawls was getting back, I wouldn’t put it past them to dump P Rich as well if one of those guys shows something. That said, I like Seattle to draft a more physical WR this year, whether it’s Chesson, Kupp or whomever.

    I also think they draft a corner, or a safety.

    A couple O liners, another bigger athletic RB, a legit SAM, and a steady DT will go a long way to running the ball and stopping the run.

    Great Husky game. Lavon Coleman is very Seahawky.

    • Daniel

      What do you mean by 4-3 under and why does it require an interchangeble leo sam

      • C-Dog

        Pete Carroll’s 4-3 under front is almost a hybrid of a standard 4-3 and a 3-4 defense. As he likes to call it, it’s a 4-3 defense with 3-4 principles or personnel. The Leo end is almost like a linebacker. The SAM linebacker is almost like an end. The stronside end (5 tech) is almost like another defensive tackle. It works with a nose tackle and an under tackle (3 Technique). The Leo is like the rush backer, the SAM plays on the line of scrimmage, contains against the run, and can work the tight ends, can sometimes rush. The WILL linebacker plays behind the line of scrimmage and reads and reacts almost like another inside backer. The alignment says 4-3 but the look of the personnel suggests 3-4.

        Typically, the nose, 5 tech and SAM do a lot of the dirty work while the others make plays. I think that why Carroll has wanted special players there, like Mebane, Bennett, and Irving. Gives them a clear advantage.

        • C-Dog

          Also, I think Carroll likes LEO and SAM to be interchangeable because he likes versatility. In fact, I think he craves versatility. He likes his 5 Tech to be able to play 3 Tech. He likes DTs that can play both nose and 3 tech, but I think with nose,\ he prefers someone who plays the way Mebane did, with a low powerful base and the athleticism to be active. At USC he had Mike Patterson, here he has also had Mebane, I think they may have drafted Jordan Hill to provide some of that.

          • daniel

            Thanks so much for such a thorough explanation.

  21. ROBERt Las vegas

    Thanks Rob I really like your draft but I have a quick question for I remember when the Viking traded for Sam Bradford they gave up their number one pick but I remember Rick Spielman saying he had enough ammunition to trade back in the first round if they desired and sure enough I look it up and they do have Miami third and fourth round picks.I guess what I am asking you is if Minnesota offers a two and three or two and a four sorry I don’t have a chart is this draft deep enough or good enough to trade back.I realize this is way early for such talk but I was just wondering

    • Rob Staton

      Sure, it’s certainly deep enough to move back.

    • DC

      Not too long ago I remember New England trading their 1st for a 2, 3 & 4. It might have been with the Vikings who seem to be a team that Seattle trades with fairly regularly. A draft this deep and being thinner on picks than we are used to, a deal like that would be intriguing.

  22. Donald

    You have WR Corey Davis going late in the second round. I just watched his highlights and his game against Buffalo (2016), and a story about his hard background growing up, and I would like the Hawks to draft him. I know WR is not necessarily a need, but he would add a lot of toughness, size (6′-3), and speed (4.4/ 40) for the WR position. His speed, size and muscular build reminds me of Dez Bryant. What do you think, would he be a good fit? They could use a physical WR, it seems Richardson is pretty fragile and injury prone, and Tyler Lockett is a thin WR also.

    • Trevor

      I am a huge Corey Davis fan as well. He is one of my favourite players in the draft and just seems like a Seahawks type player.

      I just don’t see WR as a Rd #1 need. If a guys like Bolles is there I think he is almost a must pick to fix the OL and run game going forward.

      • Donald

        I was thing OL in 1st RD, Corey Davis in 2nd RD. We have fast but small WR, with Kerse the biggest WR. It would be good to get a big and fast WR. Line up 6’3 Davis along with Jimmy Graham and Luke Willson and get a mismatch somewhere.

        • JimQ

          IF, Davis falls anywhere near the Seahawks 2-nd round pick, he MUST be a serious consideration.

          WR-Corey Davis, W. Michigan, 6-26/213 – a very consistent/improving WR with + production.
          Has a go up and get it skill set with excellent YAC, Was the focus of his teams offense & opposing defenders and is indeed a TD making playmaker with obvious consistency and steadily improving performance, a red zone TD force that the Seahawks need very much, Bye Bye Kearse. Yes, he might be considered a luxury pick, but damn as a 2-nd round pick he would be a huge STEAL………
          2013- 67-receptions for 941-yds, 14.04-ypc, 6-TD’s
          2014- 78-receptions for 1408-yds, 18.05-ypc, 15-TD’s
          2015- 90-receptions for 1436-yds, 15.95-ypc, 12-TD’s
          2016- 91-receptions for 1427-yds, 15.68-ypc, 18-TD’s (18 TDs rank s #1 for FBS receivers in 2016)

          Career: 326 receptions for 5212-yds, 15.98-ypc & **** 51 TD’s****
          FBS’ all-time leader in career receiving yards with 5,213 and counting. Near top in FBS career TD receptions too. 2016 Mid American conference offensive player of the year.

          I’m not sure exactly who Davis comps to, but my first thought is maybe a possible Dez Bryant, at least in potential upside with good coaching. His combine will be very interesting.

    • matt

      I’m fully on board with Corey Davis. Really like his RAC ability-fights for extra yardage with a pretty vicious stiff arm. Shows some electricity with the ball in his hands.
      The combine will be big and would like to see him in the Senior Bowl. Would be surprised if Davis measures out to 6’3″, but there’s nothing wrong with 6’1″ 210.

  23. Sea Mode

    I dug a lot deeper, and found some stuff I think you all should see. Just some ideas to maybe put into perspective the drop off in our run defense statistics.

    I’m not against an early DL selection at all (penetrating/collapsing on the interior would be huge for us), but just raising the question whether the fact that our drop in rush defense statistics is not so much due to the defense slacking as to other factors.

    0. The Drop
    Yes, our average rush yds allowed is up 20 yds from the past two seasons (81.5 to 100.2), as Rob pointed out the other day. But if you look at the split this season, it is totally out of proportion:
    First 5 games: 74.6 rush yds average (even lower than the past two years)
    Next 6 games: 125.5 rush yds average

    50 rush yards more per game!? What happened? What could possibly cause such a drop off? So the real dropoff is not between this season and last season (Mebane), but the first 5 games and the last 6 games of this season.

    1. Michael Bennett
    The best defensive player in the NFL (referencing Brady quote here), the one who makes the most splash plays for us in the opponent’s backfield, diagnoses plays, blows up runs and adds TFL, and also good at setting the edge, has been out for half of our games this year. Guess what game he got hurt in… game 5.

    Yes, he makes that much of a difference. He will get an extension and deservedly so. But as big as it is, his absense is actually the smallest factor, in my opinion. (We should be able to judge this somewhat having him back this week). I hope you will agree once you see the following.

    2. Time of Possession
    The offense has left the defense on the field for so long that it is skewing our defensive stats vs. rush a bit and therefore perhaps our perspective on how big of a need it really is.

    2014 reg: 27:59 OPP, 32:22 SEA
    2015 reg: 28:50 OPP, 32:14 SEA
    2016 1-5: 27:42 OPP, 32:17 SEA
    …… 6-11: 36:11 OPP, 26:18 SEA

    Almost 10 minutes longer per game on the field for the Seattle defense! (even discounting the Cardinals OT game as an anomaly, it is still 34:09) The average drive time is around 02:45. That’s about three more drives per game for the opponent. It’s no wonder we are giving up 50 more rush yards per game. What is amazing is that we are somehow still the #1 scoring defense…

    Source for TOP in individual games. PFR Box Scores
    Source for TOP season averages: Team Stats
    Source for average drive time (average estimated by me): PFR Team Stats

    3. Early Lead
    Also, getting out to a substantial (let’s say two-score) early lead generally forces the opponent to run the ball less as they try to catch up. We did this in 3 of our first 5 games this season (SF, NYJ, ATL) and then just one of our last 6 (NO).

    Source: GameCenter- Play by Play

    So, I would say the lack of rushing attack and sustained scoring drives in general is hurting the rush defense more than the rush defense itself slacking. (once again, that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t upgrade it if possible, but maybe it is not as high priority as we might think)

    • Dylanlep

      Great post. Further to that point, i think they are still top 5 in rush def dvoa so while the absolute yardage is up, they have still been pretty solid against the run overall.

    • C-Dog

      Nice work, Sea Mode.

    • The Hawk is Howling

      Yeah, nice write up C-dog! You made some great points about the run defense. I agree that hopefully Bennett being out is the main reason our defense is given up more rushing yards and of course time of possession is an excellent point ad well.

      Go Hawks

      • The Hawk is Howling

        Oh shoot I meant Sea Mode. Good post M8!

    • Rik

      That time-of-possession data is really interesting, particularly the disparity between early season and later season games. To me, that points to a problem with game planning. Why can’t we design an offense that relies on quick passes (slants, screens, etc.) to extend drives when the run isn’t working? We did it last year, and New England (whom I despise) seems to do it every year.

      Good work pointing out very interesting trends.

    • matt

      Stellar post Sea Mode! It’ll be interesting to see how close the first 5 games and last 5 games compare defensively. These games will basically show just how valuable Bennett is to this historically elite defense. He’s going to be due a massive raise, and likely worth every penny of $16m per year-on paper at least.

  24. D-OZ

    Big shout-out for the Husky Trenches!!! Both sides of the ball…

    • AlaskaHawk

      Huskies had an awesome running game with Gaskin and Coleman having 100 yard games. I am very impressed with Coleman, he is a 220 pound running back and he blocks well. I think he had 5.7 yards per carry last night, about the same as Gaskin. He is a senior and would probably go in the 6-7 round to UDFA since he is their second running back.

      Jake Browning has seemed a bit off on his passing since the USC game. Tends to throw high when he is off. Last night was typical of this in the first half with lots of errant throws. He did a lot better in the second half, just seems to skinny and inaccurate to make it in the pros. Enjoy him in college!

      Ross didn’t get many chances at the ball. I thought he looked slow in the first half, and he dropped a wide open touchdown pass to the sideline. So maybe has some mental lapses. In the second half he had some highlight reel stuff, including a high one handed grab. I think he is one of those guys that takes a little time to build up to top speed, not necessarily quick in shaking a defensive back. Whoever Colorado had guarding him in the first half did a great job of contesting the passes.

      Taylor Rapp had a great game as a defensive back with two interceptions on two throws in a row. I think I heard he was Freshmen Defensive back of Pack 12? He has some good hands and a nose for the ball. Looking forward to more good things from him.

      Vita Vea is a 332 pound Junior. I agree with earlier comments that it would be great if he moved up to the pros this draft. Considering the wealth of defensive players in the first round, it is possible that he makes it to Seahawks spot in the first or even falls into the second like Reed did last year.

      Overall the U of W has a very young team with most of the star players returning next year. I look forward to seeing great things from them. Their kryptonite will be teams with larger offensive and defensive lines. USC was able to wear them down and were constantly harassing Browning. They will have to play a really good game to stop Alabama, I see them as 15 point underdogs.

      • DC

        Technicalities but Lavon Coleman is a Junior and Vita Vea is a redshirt Sophomore.

        • Volume12

          Isn’t Coleman a R-JR?

          • DC

            Coleman is a pure JR from what I see.

            • FKA_Mousecop

              He came in the last Sark class, 2013 he’s a r. Jr.

              • DC

                I stand corrected.

  25. nichansen01

    Lots of talk about Vea Gaines and Qualls, but any Husky O-liners who seem like pro prospects? Trey Adams, sophomore, could be one to monitor next year?

    • Volume12

      Yeah. Next years O-line class is loaded if the juniors come out and Trey Adams is one of the guys.

      Maybe Eldrenkamp as an UDFA this year?

      • The Hawk is Howling

        Trey Adams was first team Pac12 as a sophomore. He’s from Wenatchee my home town as I’ve stated before. Would Love to have him as a Hawk if the need is still there! He’s definitely one to follow.



        • FKA_Mousecop

          McGary will get drafted because of his measurables alone I think. Hasn’t given up a sack all season, although he struggles a bit more in the run game.

  26. DC

    Something I meant to mention to Rob after his Husky Stadium vs Seahawk fan intensity experience. Seattle is kind of a delayed reaction town. The Dawgs have been down for so long that the fan base has been hibernating and is probably in the stretching and yawning phase of waking up. If they keep up this level of play it will get crazy in Husky Stadium a year or two down the road. It was nuts when I went there and I remember opposing teams naming it as one of the most difficult places to play. Hopefully it returns to that level of rancor.

    How do the American Football crowds compare to the European Football crowds? I know it can get nuts on your side of the pond.

  27. Volume12

    IDK about anyone else, but I am not ready for my Saturdays to not be dominated by CFB.

    Bummed out that this is the final weekend of CFB. ?

  28. red

    Anybody know anything about safety from OSU sterns knocked out Westbrook and eating up the run game against Oklahoma physical free safety

    • Volume12

      I was just gonna say something about him. Ha!

      He’s the team leader, rumored to be a great athlete, form tackler, always makes big plays. Organizes a bible study that encourages people from all walks of life to get together and share their stories. Seems like a high character kid.

  29. Volume12

    RB Samaje Perine is putting on a show. 106 yds in the 3rd quarter alone.

    He looks really good with the cutbacks between the tackles in the B and C gaps. He’s got underrated lateral agility.

    • Kenny Sloth

      I really like Perine, but he gets nicked up soo much

      • Volume12

        Why do people say that? When have injuries scared Seattle away?

        He’s missed 3 games in 3 years. Last year he played through a hurt ankle and it never really recovered. He just left the game right now after taking a brutal shot to the head.

        That’s the risk with these physical backs. They’re gonna get banged up.

        And the BIG 12 might be known for bad defenses and high flying offenses, but this game is incredibly physical.

    • Trevor

      He does look quicker today. Perhaps he is finally 100%

      • Ishmael

        None of these boys are ever going to be 100%, pro sport is just too damaging.

        He looked good though, he’s tough. If we’re chasing a guy who can make the best of incompetent line play, we could do a lot worse.

    • C-Dog

      I’ve been liking what I’m seeing a lot.

      • Volume12

        Anytime a RB rushes for 230 yds in front of Seattle scouts, you know they’re sitting up in their seats getting excited.

        Classy play to end the game from him too.

        • The Hawk is Howling

          What did Perine do that was classy Vol? I just watched some highlights of him on YouTube, I see what you guys like about him. He seems very tough and determined with great balance not the fastest in my Eye’s. I want the Hawks to get Foreman and Coleman that would kick arse!

          Go Hawks

          • Volume12

            Nope. He’s not a speedster, but he’s got enough burst when he gets to the 2nd level.

            They were up 38-20 with right around a 1:00 left at the 15 yd line or so, Perine busts one up the middle and was gonna score another TD, but instead of that he kneeled the ball at the 1 yd line.

            • The Hawk is Howling

              Oh wow that’s really cool of him showing respect to Oklahoma State like that. I love Perine now even more, thanks Vol!

              Go Hawks

        • Ishmael

          I’ve always found that sort of thing funny about American sports. Crazy celebrations for routine plays, but then running up the score is this hugeeee no-no.

          • The Hawk is Howling

            There’s a big difference between getting excited and being arrogant to the opposing team Ishmael. I know you Australian’s are way more Manly with yer Rugby then us Damn Yankees, JK. Alot of people in America are religious, mostly Christian ( I myself sm secular) !after all and being humble and fair are some of their values. I can respect that, and I think it’s good sportsmanship and for the competitive spirit.

            Go Hawks

            • Ishmael

              Oh it’s not a manliness thing. I just find it funny how that stuff turns out differently in different countries is all. Celebrate in a big way here and you’re likely to start a fight, but then you’re expected to run up the score – shows ruthlessness, desire, a foot-on-the-throat kind of mentality.

        • C-Dog

          Yeah, gotta start thinking of him as a potential pick more now.

          • The Hawk is Howling

            Yeah C-Dog now that I know about Perine’s character I’m really digging this Cat/Back. Good people matter more then anything to me! That and Puppies and Kittens??

            Go Puppy’s

            Go Kitten’s

            Go HAWKS!

  30. Volume12

    Oklahoma SAM LB Ogbonnia Okoronkwo is highly underrated. An athletic disruptor.

    Hes gonna be one of those guys when he comes out that’ll probably be taken on late day 3 and out perform the majority of guys taken before him.

    • Ground_Hawk

      Vol, or other SDB contributors, what do you think of BC’s Harold Landry? I just watched some of his 2015 tape against FSU, and he was regularly causing disruption behind the LOS. This year his production is tremendous, and I’ve seen him projected to go in the 2-3 range. He has a similar looking frame as Okoronkwo, and as Bruce Irvin, so I’m interested to see their combine performances if they both decide to declare.

      • Volume12

        I really like him. If he stays and continues to develop, he could be a top 15 pick next year.

        A little raw in terms of technique, but he’s got burst, length, can bend the edge and turn the corner, and appears to be highly athletic. Plus the production you mention to match his traits.

        He looks like one of the better potential LEO prospects.

    • CharlieTheUnicorn

      This is a guy I could see Seattle taking a swing on in the draft.

    • matt

      Okoronkwo pops off the screen. Real flashy, great length and frame, high motor. Replaced Striker and makes similar plays, but has the size-6’2″ 240-Striker lacks. OO should stay for his senior season, it could really boost his stock.

      • Volume12

        Your probably right in terms of him staying for next year.

        But, he’s got 4-3 SAM written all over him.

  31. The Hawk is Howling

    Here’s the highlights from Oklahoma- Oklahoma state. That cut back by Joe Mixon at the end of his run was awesome. Being able to cut back like that at full speed is very impressive! Wish they showed the kneel by Perine though, I’ll be looking for that.

    Go Hawks

    • The Hawk is Howling

      That long TD by Mixon remided me of Beast Quake 1 with that cut back move. Man I hope his evaluation goes well though it is quite concerning with his horrible temperament issues.

  32. The Hawk is Howling

    Okay found a video of Perine taking a knee.

    • C-Dog

      Love the vocal reaction on that.

      • The Hawk is Howling

        I know right C-dog, dude was like ” What the F..k? Without the F..k. Great run indeed.

        • The Hawk is Howling

          Okay got mixed up for a second. When I said great run indeed, I was talking about that Mixon TD. What Perine did shows a ton of character and respect for Ok. St. I really dig what he did.

          • Volume12

            He also doesn’t like the spotlight, attention, not fond of the media, and hates talking about himself.

            I noticed during the celebration after the game, Perine was nowhere near any of it.

            • The Hawk is Howling

              Now I really, really Love Perine Vol!

              Go Hawks!

              • The Hawk is Howling

                Such an unselfish character is sign of someone you puts othere before himself. Being apart of the Seahawks Brethren is crucial to this attitude. How much more “Seahawky” can one get?

                I’m down for Perine and Coleman as well. Think we’ll add at least two more Running Backs to the competition.

                Go Hawks

                • Volume12

                  He’s got a Marshawn Lynch like….how would I put this?

                  Kind of let me show up, do my thing, I’ll talk when I have to, stay to myself type of aspect going for him. IDK maybe that’s just me, but I see parallels in their public persona’s.

                  • C-Dog

                    I was thinking the same thing.

  33. CharlieTheUnicorn

    Vita Vea, DT, Washington (vs. Colorado, Friday, 9 p.m.)
    Stats: 1 QB hurry.
    Reuter’s analysis: The redshirt sophomore is part of a strong defensive tackle group for the Huskies. Greg Gaines and Elijah Qualls are gaining notice around the nation, but Vea has the best skill set of the trio. Early against Colorado in the Pac-12 Championship Game, his quickness and strength inside were clear. In a goal-line situation, he split a double-team quickly and forced the carry to head outside, where his teammates were waiting for him. Vea also hustles 15-20 yards downfield consistently, and lines up as a five-technique because he can hold the edge. He plays with great natural bend with a 6-5, 332-pound frame, allowing him to keep his head up off the snap and play with leverage against double teams. He even leaped over a fallen linemen near the line, showing impressive agility for his size. Vea plays on the punt-coverage team, and runs a full 40 yards downfield. Though he didn’t rack up tackles during his night, the young man certainly intrigued scouts with his ability. ~

    This is exactly what Seattle needs.

    • DC

      And it’s exactly why he will most likely fire up draft boards into the top 25 and out of reach. Bummer…

  34. Trevor

    That backfield for Oklahoma (Mixon and Perinne) Is as good as most NFL teams have. They put on a show today against an admittedly over matched defense. I prefer Mixon if the off field checks out but if Perinne an stay healthy he is certainly a load.

    • Volume12

      Mixon is definetly the more talented runner.

      Perine is gonna be drafted after a handful of flashier backs, show up on Sundays, outwork the guys taken in front ot him, and punish NFL defenses.

      • Volume12

        Not saying he’ll outwork them all, but the guys taken in his range that go before him is what I shoulda said.

        • DC

          Any ball security issues with either one?

          • Volume12

            Nope. Perine had 2 fumbles today, the first 2 of the season for him. 37 carriers, odds are your gonna put the rock on the ground.

    • matt

      “That backfield for Oklahoma (Mixon and Perinne) Is as good as most NFL teams have.”

      Absolutely. Think they’re better than some. Which combo would you rather have; Rawls/Prosise or Perine/Mixon?
      I’m leaning to the latter.

  35. Derron James

    I really like Samaje Perine he could be the guy to plow through defenses, and could be the guy who could get the crucial yards that we need…

  36. James

    Rob, I invite you to go back and look at Cam Robinson’s play over the past month. He has had one brilliant game after another, against elite competition. He is the leader of that OL which has played dominant, utterly brutal football. Look at those back-to-back 98 and 91 yard Alabama TD drives late 3d and early 4th qtrs against Florida. Cam was perfect on both those drives, and I know that Nick Saban thinks highly of his on-field leadership in addition to his overwhelming physical skills. As a Seahawks fan, I want an OL that plays brutal football, not this girlie football that has infested the college game.

    • Rob Staton

      I’ve also read Robinson described as a nightmare character-wise. With respect to Saban, he’s not going to do anything to upset any of his players.

      I’ll also challenge that he’s playing with overwhelming physical skills. He doesn’t always play to the whistle in the way you see Bolles or the Washington O-line do. ‘Brutal’ is the way I’d describe some of his technique. There are positives too — but I don’t see a player I’m going to bang the table for. And his character flags bother me too.

  37. Sea Mode

    In other NFC West news today, Rams sign Mr. 7-9 to a two-year extension. Wow. Just wow.

    • Ground_Hawk

      It’s gotta be the moustache!

    • KD

      And Les Snead too which genuinely surprised me since he is objectively one of the worst GMs in the NFL.

      • Volume12

        That’s great news.

        Another 7-9 season and more mediocrity.

        • Volume12

          Looks like Arizona might have a new coach next off-season according to Jason LaConfora.

          Chip Kelly will be back with SF according to Jay Glazer.

          And not pertaining to the NFCW, Tom Coughlin back to Jacksonville?

          • DC

            Wonder who Oregon will end up hiring. Hopefully their deal with the devil to become a national football power has collapsed in on itself and that reign is over.

            • Rob Staton

              Not impressed with the names linked to Oregon so far.

    • matt

      Hahaha why would any organization reward mediocrity at best? Fisher tried to challenge, but was unable to find his red flag, and had to ‘verbally’ challenge the play. Yeah he looks prepared.

  38. Volume12

    Udub in the playoffs!

    And USC vs Penn St in the Rose bowl.

    • matt

      Hell yeah! Bring on Bama! Has anyone heard an update on Victor or Mathis?

      Dawgs didn’t make it to the Rose Bowl, but still a pretty big game! Mathis would be about 7 weeks removed from surgery. Victor 6 weeks removed. If they could get close to 100% it would be great infusion of talent, especially rushing the passer.

      • Volume12

        I don’t think either will be back at the moment.

        Petersen said today that Mathis won’t make it back for the bowl game and Victor is a ‘long shot.’

  39. Volume12

    Rob, would you trade a 1st for former VMAC visitor WR Brandin Cooks?

    • Rob Staton

      I would not.

      • Volume12

        Was curious because it was reported today, I’m sure ya saw it, that there will be ‘expected’ trade talks centered around him this off-season. Personally, I don’t know why NO would trade him.

  40. Derron James

    Is Mike Morgan playin tonight???

    • Volume12


  41. nichansen01

    Huskies can beat Alabama if Joe Mathis comes back and Browning returns to form over the weeks off.

    • dylanlep

      Mathis won’t be back unfortunately. Too bad, because w Mathis and Victor, I think that def is elite.

  42. Trevor

    Loved Noah Spence after the Senior Bowl and he is proving to be a steal for the Bucs in Rd #2.

  43. Derron James

    Why didn’t Newton start? Whatever! IT WORKED FOR US GO HAWKS!

    • Derron James

      Oh he was benched for discipline…

  44. nichansen01

    Panthers are just a shell of their former selves… Kinda sad really

  45. The Hawk is Howling

    Thomas Rawls with a cut, skip, and a jump for a touchdown, Looking good!


  46. rowdy

    Locket is moving better then he had all season

  47. Vista

    And Fant is down now.

  48. rowdy

    Well we can’t go a game without 2 or 3 wtf coaching moments

  49. rowdy

    LT is a problem right now

  50. rowdy

    What was wilson seeing on that pass?

    • Derron James

      Bad read, never saw him coming

  51. Vista

    Jesus, now Thomas is down

  52. rowdy

    Looks like a stinger hopefully

    • The Hawk is Howling

      What is a stinger Rowdy? I saw the trainer hitting the bottom of Earl’s heel. Does anybody have an idea what that could mean? Flipping scary!

      • rowdy

        Basically a Charlie horse

  53. Derron James

    We really need to grab a safety sometime in the draft so he can help out with injuries

  54. Vista

    Thomas is being carted away

    • Vista

      So apparently Thomas is in the Xray room and he couldn’t put any weight on his leg.

      • rowdy

        Where you get this info?

  55. Vista

    We are seeing something we haven’t seen in some time. An effective running game.

  56. The Hawk is Howling

    Rawls making me feel a lil better after Thomas’s injury.

    Go Hawks

  57. JT

    Fingers crossed Earl. I know it’s a long shot, but it’s possible it was just a really bad charley horse. Kam smoked him right on the thigh.

  58. JT

    Such a weird game so far. Anyone else notice the lack of pressure our DL is getting on Cam?

    • rowdy

      I’m seeing it

  59. rowdy

    A vennett sighting

  60. Derron James

    Rawls on concussion protocol.

  61. rowdy

    Just seen a pic of et shine bending in a very bad way

  62. Derron James

    Yoooooo! Earl Thomas is contemplating retirement… Bleacher report commented and said! I hope I’m dreaming or else we will have to draft someone in the top rounds.

    • rowdy


    • KD

      Earl tweeted it. *worried.jpg*

  63. nichansen01

    Earl Thomas contemplating retirement on Twitter…

    • Trevor

      That is a player devastated by news of a season ending injury. I would not base anything on that comment til he has time to process what has happened. He is a really emotional guy and a fracture or break is not a career ending type injury.

      • The Hawk is Howling

        That’s what I’m thinking Trevor. Let’s stay positive!

  64. nichansen01

    Safety should now be a major draft consideration… Maybe Baker in the first?

    • Derron James

      Im looking at Obi Melifonwu, Budda Baker, and possibly trading up for someone

    • Trevor

      Lets not overreact.

      • Volume12

        He broke a bone in his leg.

        Melifonwu ain’t a FS.

        • Kenny Sloth

          Budda Baker is. Who else?

          • C-Dog

            I think Budda can play FS.

  65. nichansen01

    Rawls has amazing game then gets a concussion? Thomas almost makes an unbelievable pick them gets injured and considers retirement? Nightmare game despite the score.

    • Trevor

      Agree that really sucks on both counts.

  66. CHawk Talker Eric

    There were a few blown plays on both sides of the ball. But I see a lot to like. Rawls runs like he’s pissed for greatness (light to him as he goes through the Protocol). Wilson’s moves. His arm. Britt says last week really was about him being out. Fant holds the edge against Johsnosn and Ealy. Wait, what? Amazing. Sowell? Unbelievable. I understand Kuechly isn’t in and that does factor. But everyone else is, and more than a few are big names on any roster.

    Don’t want to get too excited at halftime, but I’m rather looking forward to this week’s Instant Reaction.

    • rowdy

      Other then injuries only thing we could complain about is redzone offense

      • Volume12

        Why don’t we complain about evertything? Wouldn’t be a Seahawk game w/o nitpicking something.

        • rowdy

          Not really nitpicking, we’re playing a complete game.

          • Volume12

            I know. I tend to generalize w/o saying so.

            Nothing at you.

  67. C-Dog

    Earl Thomas has a broken leg, just tweeted out considering retirement and has no regrets.

    Let the Buddha Baker R1 talk begin. Go Hawks.

    • Volume12

      Budda would be so dope. He can play nickel too.

      I wonder if they’d like that Justin Evans from Texas A&M. He’s similar to ET coming out in that they’re both so aggressive, they can over-pursue.

      • rowdy

        Way to early but Eric berry is free agent. He’ll cost to much I believe though

        • Derron James

          What about Marcus Williams???

          • Volume12

            Yeah. He’s a complete, total FS

      • C-Dog

        He could be a target for sure. I’m going to be a homer and say give me Buddha.

  68. Volume12

    Rawls back in there. Nice.

  69. Vista

    Cracked Tibia is the injury

    • Vista

      But Rawls is back

    • rowdy

      Fieldgulls posted a pic of his shine folding. I knew it then. Horrible!

      • Vista

        I saw that too. Its something you never want to see

  70. Volume12

    ET will be back. He’s too competitive. He’ll miss his boys after a week or two off.

    Personally? He’s never been hurt before and I don’t think he knows how to deal with it. He’s frustrated.

    • Derron James

      With that said I would still like Budda baker because he could still make a huge contribution playing some nickel and making rotations around the secondary… Do you think he could play some deathbacker?

      • Volume12

        I would love Budda.

        Might be best to grab a safety in the mid rounds and develop him.

        Nah. I think he’s more of a Honey Badger type of defender.

    • CHawk Talker Eric

      His season just ended early. That’s all. It’s common to recover fully from that kind of break. Tough luck his shin running into Kam’s knee.

      Some big time cracks in this game. That was a monster hit Kam put on Ginn after the INT that was negated by Morgan’s PI call. IIRC Terrell took a whack towards the end of the first half that looked mean.

      • Volume12

        I think it was a crack and not a break. Correct?

        • CHawk Talker Eric

          Correct. But it requires surgery and will end his season. i was just being colloquial.

          • Volume12

            Oh no. I know that. I was just looking for some clarification. I know his season is over.

            • CHawk Talker Eric

              Meanwhile Chancellor looks like the Superman on this field.

              • Volume12

                Yes he does. He’s having a monster year too

                • CHawk Talker Eric

                  Is there another S who could intimidate Newton into pitching on an option, defend Benjamin 30+ yards downfield, and punish someone as bad as he did to Ginn?

                  • Volume12

                    Not in this era. Maybe Brian Dawkins a few years back?

  71. Volume12

    If ET doesn’t go down, would Carolina even have 7 points right now?

    Beastmode in the house!

  72. Volume12

    Did Collinsworth just say PC told him he’d take a BBall player from the playgrounds in New York City if he was competitive enough? Why do I beleive that?

  73. Kenny Sloth

    Red zone offense is weak. Trade Jimmy Graham.

    Jk he looks like a shop-in for comeback player of the year.

    • Kenny Sloth


      • Volume12

        Him or RB DeMarco Murray

        Tennessee is tied for 1st in the division.

  74. AlaskaHawk

    Nice to see Rawls back in form tonight. He is a tough guy!
    Also nice to see Wilson back to full mobility, really hard to defend when they are both on Trevor game along with Baldwin and Graham.

  75. STTBM

    Nice to see Marshawn at the game. But Earl Thomas fracturing his shin…I have no words. Worse by far than NE losing Gronk, this could derail those season.

    Just grief stricken right now. It’s as if my dog died…

    Nice to see a run game, Lockett back to form, and Kearse making plays with the regulars (Graham/Baldwin), and Farmer, Pope and McEvoy contributed.

    But all I can think about is how devastated Earl must be…

  76. STTBM

    Bennett looked tentative and Avril disappeared, but Clark was a Beast!

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