3000 NFL mock draft: Episode #8

October 19th, 2015 | Written by Rob Staton

This week we’re joined by Danny Kelly to pick through the Seahawks 2-4 start. We also discuss the dramatic end to the Michigan/Michigan State game, Paxton Lynch’s statement win against Ole Miss and the continued rise of Auburn’s Shon Coleman.

131 Responses to “3000 NFL mock draft: Episode #8”

  1. Colin says:

    When Lynch doesn’t get a carry in the final 9:33 of the game, how can you still deflect criticism of Darrell Bevell? Isn’t it time to research whether his offense is getting figured out?

    • Volume12 says:

      Lynch is still banged up. It also says to me that Rawls is a nice change of pace guy, but not the kind that’s going to handle 22-27 carries if need be.

    • Rob Staton says:

      That’s two possessions right? Nobody’s ‘deflecting criticism’. It’s a case of balancing the debate and not claiming a scapegoat. Carolina defended the inside run superbly all day. Running up the gut on those last two drives probably has the same end product as the Wilson sack for a short loss.

      • CharlietheUnicorn says:

        I agree. Seattle had limited success in the run game inside. A few nice runs did get called back via hold. I also agree, Lynch was not 100%, so no need to risk him more. Why they didn’t use Rawls a bit more was disconcerting. I thought he brought a nice spark to the team with his few times on the field…. this might be a criticism of the game plan or calls.

        In the end, they had the lead with the clock winding down….. the offense did what it needed to do, almost every week… the D needs to figure it out soon.

  2. Volume12 says:

    Rob, these questions are more generic than anything.

    Who on this Miami Hurricane team do you think they could be looking at?

    Have you watched ND St OT Joe Haeg, and if so, thoughts? Seems kind of Ty Sambrailo’ish.’

    • Volume12 says:

      Oh, one other one. With the big 3 in free agency next year, Bruce, Sweez, and Okung, you think we sign just one or 2 outta 3?

      I have many more (endless) questions for ya pertaining to the draft, but I’ll save some and pick and choose my spots.

    • Rob Staton says:

      I haven’t watched Haeg unfortunately.

  3. CHawk Talker Eric says:

    Since there aren’t any answers to the questions we’re all asking…

    I just have some observations:

    1. Aside from Avril, only one Seahawks defender is playing like he’s in a contract year – Bruce Irvin. And he’s the only key Seahawks defender who’s actually in a contract year.

    2. Watching SNF last night, I saw commercials featuring 3 different Seahawks – Wilson, Lynch and Sherman. I could be mistaken, but I don’t think there’s another NFL team with 3 or more players featured in NATIONAL ad campaigns. Look who’s become the establishment.

    3. Comparing SEA’s defensive coaching staff from 2014 to 2015, there are 3 coaches who are new to SEA and the NFL (as coaches) – Micheal Barrow (LB coach), Lofa Tatupu (Assistant LB coach) and Chris Cash (Assistant Secondary/CB coach). Additionally, Andre Curtis (Assistant Secondary/S coach) is new to SEA, if not the NFL.

    4. SEA has not replaced Kris Richard as Secondary coach. Repeat, SEA doesn’t have a Secondary coach. Instead, they’re relying on 2 assistant secondary coaches, one of whom has never coached at this level before.

    I’m sure I can come up with more.

    • Volume12 says:

      2. Is there any team in the league with as many bona fide stars or guys that are controversial/love the spotlight characters?

      • CHawk Talker Eric says:

        NEP – Brady, Gronk and Edelman (actually I’ve seen all 3 in national ads so the Pats are another one)
        DEN – Manning, Miller and Thomas (or Talib)
        CIN – Dalton, Green and Atkins
        CAR – Cam, Kuechly and Olsen
        DAL – Romo, Dez and Witten
        PIT – Ben, Brown and Bell
        NYJ – Revis, Wilkerson, Marshall

        We can quibble about whether some of these are bona fide stars/controversial. But fans of those teams wouldn’t think so.

        • Volume12 says:

          True. I think Jimmy has a commersh too. You could throw in Bennett, BWagz, Bam Bam, and ET too. And Cliff has a local one here in the PNW.

        • CharlietheUnicorn says:

          GB might have three…. Mathews and Rodgers… I thought Shields was in something, but I could be mistaken.

          • CHawk Talker Eric says:

            Could be.

            But that would make 2 teams – NEP and GBP – with some big ego players that still have fire in their bellies and are undefeated.

    • JeffC says:

      Outstanding points.

    • Steele says:

      Excellent points, Chawk. There was a lot of coaching change this offseason that has not gotten enough attention. Expected a seamless transition, but it hasn’t been. If Richard is doing double duty as the DC as well as supervising the assistants on the secondary, he is overstretched.

      I also find the national spotlight on the Hawks to be a mixed thing. Sure they are stars, but it is better to be the unnoticed hungry underdog than the establishment.

  4. Winston says:

    Rob,

    What are your thoughts on Derrick Henry? Is he truly the #2 RB in the class behind Elliot like everyone is projecting, or is he only hyped up because he plays for Alabama? Also, doesn’t Devontae Booker seem more Seahawky than Elliot and Alex Collins?

  5. Volume12 says:

    While TCU WR Josh Doctson and Baylor WR Corey Coleman are on a tear, there’s a guy up here in the PNW putting up some similar numbers.

    E. Washington WR Cooper Kupp-6’1, 200 lbs. 64 rec, 941 yds., 12 TDs.

    • Rik says:

      Kupp’s been great for multiple years. Only question I have is does he have the athletic potential of the big-school receivers? He’d be a great UDFA pickup.

      • Volume12 says:

        If he runs in the 4.4 range, he’ll go on day three. Yeah he’s been killing it for a few years, but is only now draft eligible.

  6. Nathan says:

    Is it time to re-think our strategy of wainting for the 4th round to pick O linemen and interior D lineman?

    Has our game plan been ‘figured out?’

    Do we need a big force in the middle to collapse the pocket?

  7. Donovan says:

    I’d be interested in hearing your thoughts about why the D seems to struggle when other teams are in “pass only” mode. Ala 4th qtr.

  8. Trevor says:

    I hope we go OT, DT,OG,SS,CB with our 1st 5 picks this year then in 2017 focus on a RB and Edge rusher.

    I think Pete needs to reinstall the always compete mantra with this team. Seems like complacency has set in and I never thought I would see that with a Pete Carrol team. Last year the Harvin trade woke the team up. Maybe this year sitting some vet guys who are not performing might have the same effect.

    • nichansen01 says:

      I think we can get by with Rawls as our lead back, there are more pressing holes and a much more talented group of running backs next year. I think all four of our first four picks should be linemen, a guard, a tackle and possibly another tackle on offense and a tackle of defense. It would be really great if we could resign all three of Irvin, Sweezy and Rubin. Clark and Marsh should feature more prominently next year, if we draft a guy like Adolphus Washington who can play both tackle and end, Hill and Rubin can man the interior with Irvin, Avril, Bennet, Marsh, Clark, Washington, and Morgan rotating on the edge and King, Dobbs, Washington, Bennet and Clake Rotating in on the interior. If Irvin is gone, several people on the roster already replace his role, I could see Cassius Marsh, Kevin Pierre Louis and Eric Pinkins all filling in his role.

      Then on offense our o-line can look something like this: Rookie Tackle, Mark Glowinski, Drew Nowak,

      • nichansen01 says:

        Rookie Tackle, Mark Glowinski, Drew Nowak, Rookie Guard, Rookie Tackle. Backing them up/ competing can be Alvin Bailey, Gary Gilliam, Justin Britt, Kristjan Sokoli and Patrick Lewis. This group of ten would be tremendous competition in training camp. The other starter on the line now who really deserves to start next year is Nowak, as a developmental athleticism project he has improved ever game and should be superior to Lewis at the end of the season. It’s a DRASTIC redesign but a necessary one.
        So in my opinion our draft (if we do end up bombing the season) should look like:
        1. Offensive Tackle- Replace Okung
        2. Defensive Tackle- One who provides a strong push up the middle and can rotate on the exterior.
        3. Offensive Guard – Replace Sweezy
        3c. Offensive Tackle- To compete with Gilliam in camp and possibly win the job.
        4. Corner Back- We need a starter opposite Sherman who can stay healthy when Simon is out.

        We have to be successful in the later rounds this year
        5c. Safety – Drafting two defensive backs isn’t a bad idea this year due to secondary injuries and inconsistency we are experiencing this year.
        6c. Linebacker – Another guy to compete for Irvin’s spot if he departs

        Dallas 7th.- A blocking tight end wouldn’t be a bad idea late.
        7c- A decent pass locking halfback wouldn’t be a bad idea either.

        • Volume12 says:

          Nowak didn’t even start on Sunday. IDK if he was hurt, but dude is not an NFL starter.

          Adding 3 rookies isn’t a great recipe for sucess. 2 and a FA yeah. We got Sweezy’s replacement in either Glowinski or Sokoli if they don’t re-sign him.

          • CHawk Talker Eric says:

            And today SEA resigned LJP to replace an injured Patrick Lewis – who got knocked on his ass a couple of times vs CAR.

            • Volume12 says:

              LOL. How isn’t C a glaring need? It’s so damn obvious. It’s also no coincidence when you look at all the games Seahawk scouts have attended this year, almost every top ranked C has been on some of those teams.

              • nichansen01 says:

                The simple truth is that center is a less important position than tackle or guard. You can have a bad center and still have good run blocking / pass protection.

                • Volume12 says:

                  I don’t think it’s as simple as that. A good C is much more important than a guard, but that’s just my line of thinking.

                  Showing interest in Sambrailo and Morse, trying to sign Wisnewski and Mathis, scouting all these C’s, not settling on one during the season, the writing is one the wall. They’ll upgrade that spot.

  9. Rob Staton says:

    Apologies we got through so many topics we never had a chance to answer the questions. I will do a ‘mail bag’ style post this week to run through them, along with an updated big board.

  10. Josh says:

    Can you post your podcast to stickers? Not a fan of the Apple podcast app. Love the show however.

  11. nichansen01 says:

    ” Its raining now, but the sun will shine again.” – Kevin Pierre-Louis

  12. nichansen01 says:

    Is this possible: (how blandly do we have to do to get:)
    1. Shon Coleman
    2. Adolphus Washington
    3. Joe Dahl
    3c. Joe Haeg
    4. CB
    5c. Safety
    6c. LB
    7. TE
    7c. HB

  13. Ed says:

    Rob, assuming the Hawks pick between 20-32 (I know big gap, but I’m not giving up hope yet), where do you see the better value for the 2 positions of need (OT and DT).

    1st OT
    2nd DT

    or

    1st DT
    2nd OT

    They Hawks need a better LT (lineman all around actually) and a real pocket pusher.

    • Rob Staton says:

      With Harold Brantley out for the year I don’t see a top-tier pocket pusher. OT early if it’s between the two. I like the look of the cornerbacks and WR’s in this class too.

  14. CHawk Talker Eric says:

    Was there something wrong with my post about Paul Perkins and Cj Prosise?

    • Volume12 says:

      Didn’t see it. Again man, me and you thinking alike. As much as I like Devontae Booker, I think Seattle will go RB in the 3rd. And Perkins and Prosise are the 2 guys I’m looking at.

      Watch an interview of Perk. He’s engaging, articulate, cracks jokes, just seems like a solid character and a great gu to have inthe locker room. And he runs hard. His leg drive is one of the more impressive aspects to his game.

    • CHawk Talker Eric says:

      Posted it last night – a copy of a tweet about Perkins that had a url in it, and a link to a PFF article about Prosise. 2 or more urls in a comment require moderator approval.

      Today it’s gone entirely.

      • Volume12 says:

        Hmm. Maybe Rob hasn’t been online to approve it. Ya know what I mean?

        • CHawk Talker Eric says:

          Maybe. Anyway, it was a Stanger (?) tweet that said Perkins 5’11” 210# reminiscent of Jamaal Charles.

          And the pff article about Prosise said:

          “Prosise…had a fantastic game (earning a +4.7 grade that’s tough to achieve for a running back). Prosise forced nine missed tackles on his 19 carries and gained 66 yards after contact. On nine carries right up the gut (either side of center), Prosise gained 85 yards, forcing three of his nine missed tackles.”

          • CHawk Talker Eric says:

            Prosise vs USC.

            Also Stanger called Perkins a RB right in SEA’s wheelhouse.

          • CHawk Talker Eric says:

            Prosise is running behind a much better OL than Perkins, but he has really impressed this year – what was supposed to be a redshirt year – after Tarean Folton got injured.

            I think his ceiling is higher than Perkins.

            • Volume12 says:

              I’m sure you know this, but I believe he’s referring to him being in Seattle’s wheelhouse in terms of his size.

              He does have some Jamaal Charles to his game, but also has a much lower center of gravity. He runs so low to the ground and some of his cuts are ones that veteran backs in the NFL can’t make. Also has some Devonta Freeman to his game.

              Prosise absolutely has more potential. Just a hunch, but I believe CJ will be a SPARQ demon. He’s got DeMarco Murray size and Reggie Bush type athleticism. He’s pretty unique IMO. And his ability to break tackles/get yards after contact is highly underrated.

              • CHawk Talker Eric says:

                Yes I forgot to include Stanger said it was in terms of size, not style.

                Sounds like we agree that RB with be a Day 2 pick, and of those likely to be available then, I prefer Prosise, but that can change.

                And C seems to be a focus position for the scouts. BTW I tried to find out about Nick Richter but there’s not a lot of info.

                Aside from Shon Coleman, I still like Jason Spriggs and Kyle Murphy.

                • Volume12 says:

                  We are in agreement about the RB position. Your right, it can always change in terms of our favorites or who we’d prefer, but Prosise and Perk are like 1A and 1B for me right now. I do think Perkins has a style that would fit. He never takes a play off and is just as good in the 2nd half as he is in the 1st.

                  There’s not much out there about Richter. I just remember seeing someone tweeting Davis Hsu saying how athletic he is. Maybe it was Hsu himself.

                  Spriggs and Murphy are nice. Joe Haeg is also starting to grow on me. Reminds me of Ty Sambrailo and David Bahktiari.

                  Still going to take a look at S. Carolina’s OT Brandon Shell. He’s a former BBall player and also rumored to be athletic with a nasty streak.

                • Rob Staton says:

                  Not sure what happened to the other comment — apologies. Although I wouldn’t recommend Stanger as a voice of reason. A very, very strange individual.

                  • CHawk Talker Eric says:

                    No worries. St(r)anger produces a nugget every now and then

                    But I take your point. I’m just trying to occupy myself until Thursday night, when I hope we can all get a little redemption.

                    What about either of Perkins or Prosise? Anyone else in the R3 range you like for RB?

                  • Volume12 says:

                    Are you asking me or Rob?

                  • Volume12 says:

                    LOL. The name fits.

                    Don’t know if you watched tonight’s game, but UL-Lafyette HB Elijah McGuire is exciting. Don’t know if he’s a 3rd rounder per se, but man he’s another back that would fill that role. Great receiver.

  15. red says:

    So I am looking at over the cap website if cap is going to be 150 that puts us about 24mil under. I think first thing we need to do is fix the interior oline we need to move the chains in the 4th more. I think we start out by budgeting 7 or 8mil to the Oline resign Sweazy for 4mil first year cap hit and Boone or maybe Mathis for 3-4mil first year cap hit. I let Okung walk and pick up a 3rd or 4TH comp. Then I budget 6-7 mil for DL we can get some good value here Mebane Rubin Fairly Guidon Knighton Ngata I think we can get two good starting DL types for 6-7mil. That puts us about 14mil starting out. If Lane comes back healthy i would shoot him a mil that would take us to 15mil. At this point we have decisions to make do we second round tender Shead? Do we break the bank for Irvin can we even afford him? Do we bring back Kearse for around 3 mil? Do we invest in a center?

    I Like this scenario Draft
    1.OT Conklin Michigan State
    2.DL Jones Mississippi State
    3.FS Bush Miami
    3. RB Dixon L Tech
    4. QB Adams Oregon
    5. CB
    7. WR
    7.LB

    • Ed says:

      Out:

      Okung/Sweezy/Mebane/Kearse/Rubin/Lynch

      In:

      Irvin/Shead

      Trade:

      Chancellor. Maybe Bennett. They both seem to have that Harvin selfishness about them (Kam held out), Bennett won’t stop committing stupid penalties.

      Drastic, I know, but it helped to get the team back on track last year, time for another shakeup PC

      • red says:

        If you trade Bennett you eat his dead money of 4 mil next year and only free up 3 mil if you were going to trade him it makes more sense to after next season i might actaully look to re due his deal and extend him making his cap hit in 2016 something like 4 or 5 mil instead of seven and back load the cap hit 2 or 3 years out. Pro Bowl type DE are not easy to find plus he is underpaid. As for Kam he has 2 years left with team friendly deal could do extension, play out or trade after 2016. If Irvin is like a 7mil a year guy sure resign him but I think his market is going to be 8-9 mil a year we might get a 4th comp for that. As for Shead I would draft a FS in third RD thus saving us 2 mil against the 2RD tender plus having player control for 4 years instead of 1.

        24 mil as of now

        extend Bennett lower his first year cap to 5 mil. This adds 2 mil

        26 mil.

        oline

        resign Sweazy add FA Boone add C Wisniewski 12 mill invest

        14mil

        two DL 7 mil

        7mil

        resign lane for a 1 mil

        6mil

        add depth at LB 2 mil

        4mil

        add blocking vertern TE 1mil

        3mil

        p squad and IR

  16. Volume12 says:

    Seahawks scouting the Richmond vs Elon game back on Oct. 10th.

    Richmond OL Nick Richter is rumored to be one of the most athletic offensive line prospects in the draft, and his daddy played on the OL for the Buffalo Bills from 1980-1993. PC was defensive coordinator of Buffalo in 1984. FWIW, I found this to be interesting.

    • CharlietheUnicorn says:

      Very interesting. I like your thinking if this is true… about Seattle being at the game.

      • Volume12 says:

        I don’t consider Davis Hsu a source of faulty information. He’s a highly intelligent, well informed dude. Really like him.

  17. Volume12 says:

    Did Brock Coyle get the ‘IR-designated’ to return?

    Also saw on ‘Ninja turtle’s’ tweet that he’ll be playing on Thursday night. Hopefully Richard starts using his depth a little more. Bringing in KPL as a spark plug or 6th man kind of guy.

    • CHawk Talker Eric says:

      Yes, to make room for Coleman.

      • Volume12 says:

        Nice. Glad to see they didn’t give up on him. That’s what I love about PC and this FO. Coming from a guy that’s made some awful choices in life and f*cked uo numerous times, I got 2nd and 3rd chances. It’s inspiring to see them take chances on troubled young men, unique peronalities, people with so called ‘deficiencies or faults’ it’s refreshing to see.

  18. KD says:

    Maybe I’m just looking for a silver lining to this season, but the Seahawks recent struggles is something that they have never experienced to this degree. Over the past few seasons, they have struggled in some games but ended up with 11, 13, and 12 wins by the end of it all. These kinds of troubles are something that this current teams has really not had to deal with much, so they need to look at themselves and find a way to overcome this new hardship. If they can, they will end up all the stronger for it.

  19. CHawk Talker Eric says:

    SEA shopping LBs now that Coyle is on IR.

    Among them UTEP LB Horace Miller 6’0″ 235#. SPARQ’ed up athlete.

    • CharlietheUnicorn says:

      I think Seattle was in the market for 1-2 LBs already in the draft.
      1) Potentially losing Irvin and 2) finding a solid back-up or upgrade depth behind Wagner at MLB.
      Maybe a guy like Jordan Jenkins, OLB, Georgia or they might be in the market for a guy in between a LB and DE, the classic tweener such as Dadi Nicolas, OLB/DE, Virginia Tech.

      • CharlietheUnicorn says:

        I forgot to mention, Reggie Ragland, ILB, Alabama as a possible guy to keep an eye on… he has some pass rush and coverage skills.

      • Wall UP says:

        Daeshon Hall DE/OLB from Texas A&M @ RD 4. He can rush the QB & drop in coverage. He’s also homegrown, eager to play in front of family and friends.

        • CHawk Talker Eric says:

          Myles Garrett gets all the attention but Hall has flashed at times this year. Did he declare?

          A&M is one of the more frustrating programs. The individual parts are greater than the sum. Nothing against ‘Bama but with a roster like the Aggies have, I though they should’ve taken ‘Bama at home.

          • Wall UP says:

            Not yet. He’s a rJR. Has 4yrs in and he started out with a bang with 4 sacks. I’m sure he wants to cash in now since Garrett is going next year.

            • Volume12 says:

              I’d still take Eric Striker over almost any other edge rusher in this class. It’s not a good draft for LEOs at first blush, but some very fascinating O’brien Schofield types or undersized, athletic speed freaks like a Horace Miller that CHAWK mentioned.

              • Volume12 says:

                Wisconsin OLB Joe Schobert, firmly on my radar. Seattle was at Wisconsin’s training camp this summer.

                Florida edge rusher Bryan Cox, jr. is an interesting guy.

                E. Carolina’s OLB Montese Overton, and Udub’s Travis Feeney is someone we should monitor IMO.

              • Wall UP says:

                6-0 223lbs is a bit undersized for DE/ OLB at the pro level. I see Eric @ WILL as occasional blitzing LB. He’ll be long gone at the slot Hall goes at. They have already invested @ WILL with KPL. 6-6 265lbs can set the edge. The added reach can add an element that can blk passing lanes

                • Volume12 says:

                  Bruce is more of an OTTO than he is a true SAM. Of course length helps, but speed, athleticism, and playmaking ability are just as important. Mike Morgan is a 6’3, 230 lb. SAM LB. We can’t pigeon-hole a guy.

                  My point is, if OLB Daeshon Hall runs a 4.8 40 Seattle won’t even bother let alone many other teams. That’s an awful speed for a position that requires it.

                  • Volume12 says:

                    Horace Miller, Matt Wells, Dontay Moch are all undersized, but ya know what they have in common? Speed, athleticism, and all SPARQ freaks.

                    Don’t be surprised if KPL ends up replacing Bruce in the starting lineup next year.

                  • Wall UP says:

                    Check out Garrett’s 40 time. He’s considered the best DE prospect today. This type of DE is unique. It’s a combination of length strength and speed. And the emphasis is length in both Garrett and Hall.

                  • Wall UP says:

                    I would replace Morgan’s role with Hall in a minute. Same speed. Bruce’s arm length prevents him from fighting off OTs at times. It would be great to keep him but they can’t. He’ll get too much in the open market. The Comp pick would be nice too.

                    Eric wouldn’t last at the edge against the bigger OTs in the Pros. Looks like they used him off the line as a Blitzer.

                    You’re right in not to pigeon-hole players. It’s good to look for uniqueness and how it can be an asset to the team and not a weak link.

                  • Volume12 says:

                    Dude I never once mentioned Myles Garrett. I think Garrett is the best player in CFB behind Leonard Fournette.

                    You said Hall ran a 4.8 40. that’s an awful 40 time.

                    We all know Seattle wants guys that are SPARQ’D up and unique. KPL can’t play with his hand in the dirt, but can do everythinng else Bruce does.

                    All the guys Seattle tried out today are unique athletes that can play in space, blitz, be moved around the defense. They don’t have to be built like Bruce Irviin. Guys that are 6’2, 235-240 work too. And if their smaller than that, but can still be an effective speed rusher, makes them all the more unqiue.

                  • Wall UP says:

                    There are unique qualities in a 6-6, 6-5 and OLB/DE in Hall, Garrett and Aldon Smith. There arm length keep OTs from latching on to them when they’re in motion.

                  • Volume12 says:

                    Not sure Bruce is kept either. Let KPL do what he does at SAM. Draft that rookie hybrid DE/OLB in the 4th round range and bring him in when an extra pass-rusher is needed.

                  • Volume12 says:

                    Now your putting words in my mouth. Again, when did I say guys built like that aren’t unique?

                    The poit of CHAWK’s post on this topic was the fact that Seattle tried out Horace Miller and others built like him. Not one guy is built like them.

                    Every edge rusher Seattle has or will target has to have the arm length your talking about. But an edge rusher that runs a 4.8 probablty isn’t even draftable, and surely isn’t unique.

  20. JeffC says:

    Fred Jackson drag racing at the Vmac and crashes his car. Injuries undisclosed.

    Pete, get control of your team.

  21. Wall UP says:

    D. Hall is 6-6 260 with long arms, 4.8 / 40. Presents unique skills for the LB group with added length. Could help with the weak spot over the LBs in the zone.

    • Volume12 says:

      I’m hoping he runs faster than a 4.8, because if not Seattle won’t even sniff him. All their LBs are sub 4.65 guys. Coyle ran that in the cold with 30 degree winds, which makes me think he’s even faster than that. And their edge rushers better have a sub 1.70 10 yard splt as well.

      • Wall UP says:

        DE 20 splits are more crucial. Look at film speed. Just as Garrett sacks the QB Hall is right there. Game speed is more crucial. One knock on Kam was his speed. Sherm is not the fastest CB either.

        • Volume12 says:

          For a DE a 10 yard split is. That’s the distance between an OT’s outside shoulder and the QB.

          Look at every LB on their roster. Ther all under 4.65 40s, their DEs/edge rushers all have 32′ inch arms and under 1.70 if not less 10 yard spits.

    • John_s says:

      I think Daeshon’s body type is a lot like Obum Gwachum. Long, lean. Obum runs 4.72 and I think Daeshon runs in that range as well.

      The upside of Daeshon is that he’s been a DE all of his life whereas Obum was a DE for a year so you’re not wasting 2-3 years teaching Hall pass rush moves like you would have to with Obum.

      • Wall UP says:

        That’s a good example of the uniqueness they’re seeking to enhance their D. They had David Irving in @ pre-draft look that I thought they were targeting. I guess Clark & Irving DV together was too much pub to deal with. There scheme is based speed, but also length. KJ and Wags. Length on the edge fits their style they’ve already developed.

        • Wall UP says:

          If Dallas does release him I hope JS picks him up on the 40 MR. 6-7 273 DE/DT with a fast get off would be great right now.

          • Wall UP says:

            I thought the Hawks were thin @ DT until I looked @ Dallas. They’re using (2) DEs (Crawford 285 and Irving ) @ DT, along with Hayden 303 as their only DTs on the roster. Running teams will pound the middle all day long. I’m sure they will need more help @ DT soon if they’re running a 4-3.

            • Volume12 says:

              Crawford is one of the best/young up and coming 3-techs in the league. Dallas is a team that doesn’t seem to favor using big, immobile, 2 down DTs.

              • Wall UP says:

                That’s why their LB are so banged up or concussed. Wag loves that protection up front. Crawford originally came out as a DE out of Boise St. Put on some weight since then. I know the direction the beast is headed. DOWN HILL!

                Look for the Eagles to do the same.

  22. red says:

    Seahawks tried out couple of TE today Nick Kasa Colorado 6th RD pick of Raiders 2014 history of knee problems. Reading his draft profile on NFL.com regarded as great blocking TE ran a 4.71 at 6’6 270 only played 13 games at TE in NCAA was recruited as DE. If his Knee checks out we should stash this guy on the P squad.

    • Wall UP says:

      Convert Bronson Kaufusi 6-7 265lbs to TE if he’s still there at the 6th Rd. Need a good blkg TE.

      • Wall UP says:

        He’s athletic, good hands. I don’t see him making an interior lineman. Not a fit for 4-3 DE. He’ll be a better pro on O as a TE.

        • Wall UP says:

          Check out his interception in the rain. He snagged it out of the air at close range. Great reflexes and anticipation.

        • red says:

          Lyden Trail 2.0 There is not a lot of bigger TE in the draft the year maybe 3 draftable TE over 250lbs. Not sure if should use draft capital for 3rd or 4th TE this year. Michael Hoomanawanui at 2-2.5 mil a year could be interesting.

          • Wall UP says:

            6th Rd pick for Kaufusi as a TE would be money in the bank. I would take that as an improvement to the TE group. It wouldn’t hurt having 2 6-7 TEs, one blkg and the other catching. He would love to hit someone.

            • Wall UP says:

              Helfet is a FA next year isn’t he? Why spend more on the cap for someone outside. This would be a cost saving investment, as well talent achievement to enhance the group. A (3) TE set of Willson, Graham and Kuafusi. I like that!

              • Wall UP says:

                Kaufusi’s frame can also put another 10-20lbs. Trail was too frail to mix it up inside. Kaufusi enjoys it. If it were presented to him he may take the opportunity to switch and play for a championship. If Cable gets a hold of him he may try to convert him to OT.

                • Volume12 says:

                  Kaufusi as a TE convert is interesting. I do think Seattle needs a blocking TE, H-back, or something too.

                  • Wall UP says:

                    They have used Willson in the backfill on wheel routes to use his speed. That’s an option with the (3) TE sets.

                    To have a change of pace from types of backs they’re using it would be good to look at Josh Ferguson RB 5-10 200 4.4 40yd. Catches well out of the backfield.

              • red says:

                I think we can explore outside TE help Willson FA after 2016 and Graham 2017 if it was a deep draft for TE maybe we take someone in the 3rd or 4th but no need to overdraft we have 24mil in cap space. Also would not mind keeping 4TE and 5WR since Graham can be moved around. I think Helfet is RFA next year but was not drafted so I think is in the same boat ricardo Lockette is this year if we keep him I think his tender is like 700k.

                • Volume12 says:

                  Agreed. If we’re looking at TEs soley for blocking, no need to spend anything other than a 7th on them, if not making one a priority UDFA.

                  And like ya said, that role should be able to be filled in FA if they so choose.

                • Wall UP says:

                  They need a blkg TE that will go in space and blk a LB. Kaufusi will do that. He has the agility and length to do so. This will help the run game. He can also catch the rock.

  23. CharlietheUnicorn says:

    I keep seeing a theme within this thread. People are pointing at certain positions that need to be strengthened or upgraded. To my eye, Seattle needs to look in the draft for a #3 TE with upside (all around type), a FB that can knock the pants off defenders and a developmental C/G or OT that is more physically gifted than some of their picks in the past (and use higher draft capitol on the investment).

    TE I love Jake Butt, TE, Michigan (Butt gets the nod, due to being in a pro style offense now)
    FBs I love both mid to late rounders Devon Johnson, FB/RB, Marshall or Quayvon Hicks, FB, Georgia
    OL……. just get me someone that can play with a mean streak and get dirty in the trenches.

  24. Thy Hawk which is most Screeching says:

    So this song is a video from one of my favorite artists ever! I would Marry her, for She is so Lovely. American Football is involved and it is quite trippy. Anyway I Love you all my Seahawks Crew Brother’s !
    Cheers as always Rob Staton!

    https://youtu.be/JtH68PJIQLE

  25. nichansen01 says:

    Anyone know anything about Florida Defemsive end/tackle Jonathon Bullard (6-3 277 lbs). According to off he’s got the best ‘run stop rate’ in college football.

    • nichansen01 says:

      Projected as a top 50 pick, could be our DT in the second round. I don’t know how good of a pass rusher he is though.

      • Volume12 says:

        He’s a good pass rusher. His get-off and bull rush are next level stuff. You could move this guy all around your line. He’s a fantastic prospect. One of the better D-lineman in the country.

  26. nichansen01 says:

    What do you guys think about Jesse Williams? Will he forever be a fringe NFL player whose career was derailed by injury and disease, or can he contribute and crack the 53 next year? And what about David King? What does the front office see in him?

  27. nichansen01 says:

    Anyone know anything about Austin Blythe, Iowa Center? He’s the best run blocking center according to PFF in college football.

    • CHawk Talker Eric says:

      From PFF:
      Austin Blythe (C, Iowa) paved the way for back-to-back 200-yard rushing performances by two different running backs.

      Per the University of Iowa Athletic Department, it is the first time since 1996 that an FBS team had two different running backs rush for 200 yards in a game. Akrum Wadley (+1.7) had 204 yards against Northwestern and Jordan Canzeri (-1.8) had 258 against Illinois. While these two backs get the headlines, the real credit should go to the big man in the middle, center Austin Blythe. Blythe is the top graded offensive lineman in the country for running blocking at +21.3. Of the 462 yards between the two running backs the last two weeks, only 171 of them came after contact. That means that 63 percent of the rushing yards were gained before a defender even laid a hand on the runner. The hometown senior is leading a surprising Iowa team (7-0) that has become the favorite to represent the West Division in the Big Ten championship game.

      • Wall UP says:

        What about PPro? They need a balance of both. What about Jack Allen’s ratings? They both have the same measurables, 6-2 300lbs.

        He even started at LT for injured Conklin against Rutgers before he got rolled up on with a high ankle sprang the week before the UM game. It would be a good investment of 179th 5th Rd Comp pick, if he’s there, rather than trying to develop PPro techniques in a OC/FA. (ie, Nowak)

        That’s quite a feat to hold your own against longer, quicker DEs coming at you.

        Hawks have a good ZBlkg scheme that is successful. They need the ones to do both well enough to give Russell time. Then they’ll be unstoppable.

    • Volume12 says:

      Tony Pauline is pretty high on Austin Blythe. Says he’s one of the best ZB C’s in this entire class.

  28. CHawk Talker Eric says:

    PP_Rich_Hill: Per @PFF Dominique Easley leads NFL defensive tackles in pass rush productivity (25%+ of snaps played). That’s a really good sign.

    No surprise to us.

    • nichansen01 says:

      I swear this blog community could form a round table and draft better than the front office.

      • Ehurd1021 says:

        Seahawks were going to draft him… Pats moved up and took him.

      • Ehurd1021 says:

        Seahawks were going to draft him… Pats moved up and took him.

        • Volume12 says:

          Was dissappointed when he went right in front of our face. He’s so disruptive and just had this funky personality/character that screamed ‘Seahawks.’

          Glad to see he’s battled back from his ACL injuries and is having success, but damn, dude would’ve been unreal ballin’ out with our boys.

  29. Volume12 says:

    Are we going to get our 1st look at CB Tye Smith tommorow night? PC said he’s going to play. Glad Frank Clark’s injury ain’t too serious. While he isn’t lighting it up, every game he’s played in, he’s had 1-2 impact plays.