16 freaky athletes to monitor for the Seahawks in 2021

December 4th, 2020 | Written by Rob Staton

Ohio State’s Baron Browing is a fantastic athlete

Traits aren’t everything but they do matter.

The concept of ‘just picking good players’ is a rhetoric that doesn’t befit a sport that emphasises physicality and speed perhaps more than any other.

Furthermore, the techniques and nuances for college football are far away from what you can expect at the next level. A ‘good’ player in college doesn’t necessarily translate to a ‘good’ player in the NFL. Even if they can be coached and developed, limitations will nearly always be exposed.

With limited draft stock in 2021 and no pick until the late second round (as things stand) the Seahawks will need to be on the ball to deliver impact from this class.

I’ve mentioned this before but I think the objective has to be to shoot for high upside in order to acquire someone with the potential to be great.

Any player available in the late second round with an amazing physical profile is going to have some question marks. Yet there’s an opportunity within that range to make a half-court shot.

D.K. Metcalf is the prime example. He fell not so much for the well-publicised three-cone time but probably more for the fact he nearly had to retire during the 2018 season due to a serious neck injury. Either way he was there and in a re-draft, he’s probably the third overall pick not the #64 pick.

The Seahawks equally had great success drafting Frank Clark in the late second round. He fell for very different reasons but had a top-10 physical profile and played to that level once he developed into a starter.

There have been misses too and that’s simply part of the draft. Christine Michael is the most explosive and agile running back to enter the NFL in a generation. He had star traits but couldn’t ever put it together.

Here’s the thing though — you can live with occasional Christine Michael if the upside is you end up with players such as Metcalf and Clark.

Seeking players with outstanding physical traits has worked well for the Seahawks in the second and third round. Bobby Wagner, Golden Tate, Russell Wilson, Tyler Lockett, Justin Britt and Damien Lewis are other examples. All tested very well.

The Kansas City Chiefs built their Super Bowl roster off the back of amazing upside. Not every pick, signing or trade has worked for them — but look at their recent early round draft picks. Clyde Edwards-Helaire, Willie Gay Jr, Mecole Hardman, Juan Thornhill, Breeland Speaks, Patrick Mahomes, Tanoh Kpassagnon, Chris Jones. It’s a who’s who of every star tester, high-upside talent or five-star recruit.

They traded for Frank Clark, another incredible athlete, signed Sammy Watkins (at great expense) and signed big new deals for Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelce.

They are basically the fastest, most explosive team in the league. Yes — they reached the pinnacle because of Mahomes. He too was loaded with traits and he’s surrounded by athletic stars.

With that in mind I wanted to note down some possible targets for the 2021 draft who possess high-upside and major physical potential.

The combine will reveal a lot of information, as always. For now we have to work with what little info is available. I’ve not included obvious first round picks. These are players being projected in a region where they might be available to the Seahawks (although it’s still early days) either in round two or perhaps even later.

Haskell Garrett (DT, Ohio State)
I only watched Garrett this week but was incredibly impressed with his quickness, hand-use and power. It was even more impressive given he was shot in the face a few weeks ago and made a miraculous return to the football field. He ran a 4.41 short shuttle at SPARQ at 298lbs which is an outstanding time and he added a 5.13 forty. His stock is difficult to project, especially after the shooting, but he’s highly talented and definitely a player to monitor.

Ambry Thomas (CB, Michigan)
Thomas opted out of the 2020 college season and Michican are missing him badly. He has reasonable size (6-0, 185lbs) but his athletic profile is sensational. He ran a 4.43 at SPARQ, a 3.90 short shuttle and jumped a 36 inch vertical. He had three interceptions last season and plays with great instinct and toughness. Thomas is immensely talented and with a strong combine, could vault up many boards.

Tutu Atwell (WR, Louisville)
Atwell is tiny (listed at just 5-9, 165lbs) and that is a concern. So too will be his limited catching radius. However, he has tremendous production (21 career TD’s) and his physical profile is incredible. He’s reportedly achieved a 4.26 forty, a 3.90 short shuttle and he can squat around 600lbs. Paul Richardson was only 175lbs at the combine in 2014 and the Seahawks took him in round two. Atwell could be the kind of dynamic speedster this offense craves.

Baron Browning (LB, Ohio State)
It will be stunning if the Seahawks spend another high pick on a linebacker but I had to include Browning on this list. At SPARQ he ran a fantastic 4.18 short shuttle. The Seahawks historically put a high value on that drill for the linebacker position. He also jumped a 37.5 inch vertical, ran a 4.56 forty and managed a total score of 131.91 — the most by any player at his position in 2017. He’s a freakish athlete with the tape to match. Don’t be shocked if he works into the first round.

Andre Cisco (S, Syracuse)
Unless the Seahawks make a big move (such as trading Jamal Adams) they’re unlikely to be in the market for a safety either. However, Cisco is a fantastic playmaker with a terrific physical profile. He has nine interceptions at Syracuse. He’s been timed in the 4.3 range for the forty, the 4.1 range in the short shuttle and he jumped a 36 inch vertical at SPARQ. He suffered a lower leg injury this season which could impact his stock.

Alim McNeil (DT, NC State)
When it comes to freskish physical profiles, McNeil has to be near the top of the list. At SPARQ he ran a 4.27 short shuttle — a time most defensive backs would be satisfied with — at over 270lbs. He’s since grown to 320lbs and yet he’s carrying minimal bad weight. He also ran a 4.94 forty and jumped a 34 inch vertical. Explosive, quick and agile — McNeil can also control blocks as a nose tackle and made headlines for a remarkable ‘big man’ pick-six earlier this season.

Jaelen Phillips (DE, Miami)
Phillips was once a storied recruit chased by every big team in college football. He opted to stay in California and picked UCLA. His time with the Bruins was dogged by concussion issues and at one point retirement seemed possible. However, instead he transferred to Miami and he’s having an outstanding season with five sacks in eight games and 10.5 TFL’s. He recorded an 111.18 score via SPARQ and has flashed five-star recruiting talent for Miami this year.

Xavier Thomas (DE, Clemson)
It’s been a bit of an underwhelming season for Thomas so far with only three sacks. Tipped by many to be the next big-name Clemson D-line prospect, he hasn’t really elevated his name into one of the stars of college football. Even so, his physical talent is undeniable. He ran a 4.30 short shuttle at 270lbs at SPARQ and added a 4.58 forty and a 33 inch vertical. He was the top defensive lineman who tested. There’s a lot of untapped potential here although I wonder about his length and ability to stay clean when taking on blocks.

Walker Little (T, Stanford)
It’s hard to gauge Little’s stock. A knee injury ended his 2019 season prematurely. He opted not to declare for the 2020 draft but then did opt out of the 2020 college football season. Where is he at physically? He has amazing size (6-7, +300lbs) and he was the top SPARQ tester on the O-line in 2017 with a remarkable short shuttle of 4.40. The injury and absence could force him down boards (although teams are always willing to take a chance on a good left tackle).

Tyson Campbell (CB, Georgia)
He’s tall (6-3), long and has the frame of a Seahawks cornerback. He also ran a 4.47 at SPARQ and jumped a 33-inch vertical. His short shuttle of 4.51, however, is very disappointing and he’d need to test better in that drill. Campbell doesn’t play aggressively enough in coverage and he gives up too many easy passes. Yet the physical potential and upside is there — especially if he improves in the agility testing.

Marvin Wilson (DT, Florida State)
Another former five-star recruit who had an amazing SPARQ session. At 6-4 and 330lbs he ran a 5.17 forty and a 4.56 short shuttle. That is frankly unbelievable agility for a man of that size. At Florida State he’s flashed talent, an ability to play inside and at the five technique and he was in better shape this year before an injury ended his season. However, conditioning will be a concern for teams.

Jake Ferguson (TE, Wisconsin)
Ferguson has always been a good blocker and a typical Wisconsin tight end. However — this season he’s also become their top target in the passing game, with 181 receiving yards and four touchdowns in three games. A former four-star recruit, Ferguson ran a blistering 4.15 short shuttle and jumped a 34.5 inch vertical at SPARQ. Virtually all of the top TE’s in the league did well in the agility testing.

Javian Hawkins (RB, Louisville)
I don’t think he runs in a ‘Seahawks style’. He’s not a tone-setter who gets the hard yards. He’s also out of their size bracket at 5-9 and 200lbs. However, I wanted to include him here due to his testing and production. He has 822 rushing yards and eight total touchdowns in eight games this season with a 6.2 YPC average. He ran a 4.36 forty at SPARQ, a 3.95 short shuttle and jumped a 41 inch vertical. He is extremely fast, explosive and talented. He’s just undersized.

Aaron Banks (G, Notre Dame)
This one is more about what I’ve seen on tape. He’s 6-6 and 330lbs and he absolutely dominates at the LOS. Power, strength and control. Based on his SPARQ testing I wouldn’t expect an amazing combine performance. However, to me he looks like the ideal candidate to play left guard for Seattle. Since Mike Solari came in they’ve preferred hulking monsters to play on the left side. Banks fits the bill perfectly.

Aidan Hutchinson (DE, Michigan)
He’s just suffered a fractured leg that could keep him out of action until April. He might be able to fit in a pre-draft workout if he opts to declare. He could also return to Michigan. However, there’s enough on tape already to think Hutchinson could be a star with the right kind of support. He’s brilliantly put together and can play inside/out with ease. He wins with quickness and power. He’s around 6-6 tall with great length and he ran a 4.47 short shuttle at SPARQ. If he goes pro and the injury limits his stock, he could be a steal for someone.

Kyler Gordon (CB, Washington)
I watched Gordon earlier this week and I think if he stays at Washington for next year, he could be a first round lock in 2022. He is incredible. However, who knows how players will feel about turning pro after this unpredictable year? He’s capable of a 42.5 inch vertical and a 6.52 three cone. Gordon, as with Elijah Molden, has unbelievable potential but he’s young and needs time to develop. They could both be NFL stars and possess the perfect blend of talent, instinct and physical upside.

I would’ve loved to have included Penn State running back Journey Brown on this list. He’s incredibly talented, capable of running in the 4.3’s, he’s explosive and he finishes runs. Unfortunately he recently had to retire from football due to a heart condition.

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664 Responses to “16 freaky athletes to monitor for the Seahawks in 2021”

  1. Big Mike says:

    Why would Alim McNeil be unlikely to be a 1st rounder Rob? You made no mention of that. Is it a case of if he tests really well with the additional weight he’ll move into the first?

    • Rob Staton says:

      I didn’t say he’s unlikely to be a first rounder.

      I said these are players being projected in a region where they might be available to the Seahawks.

      • Big Mike says:

        OK let me rephrase the question: what reason(s) are in play that would have him available to the Seahawks later in round 2?

        • Rob Staton says:

          Lots of things. He’s not a sure fire first rounder by any stretch. There’s only ever a handful of those. As much as I like him it’s hardly going to be a shock if he lasts into the second or third. I really liked Damien Lewis last year, thought he was a top-50 talent. He was there in R3.

          • Big Mike says:

            Thanks. I have this fantasy of Seattle having their own Aaron Donald, or really I should say Aaron Donald Lite cuz he’s generational. But a hugely disruptive DT is a wonderful thing, pressure up the middle in the QB’s face and all that.
            Good point about Lewis. Your assessment of him as top 50 has played out based on eye test and PFF grades.

            • BobbyK says:

              We did have Tez. He is/was better than Donald in terms of an overall game (not rushing the passer).

              re: Rob… Lewis… super cool he actually interviewed him HERE!

              • charlietheunicorn says:

                Tez also didn’t have the supporting cast around him…. such as the 2013 Seahawks had on the DL/front 7. Tez was truly great on a truly awful run of teams. I could have sworn he would got occasionally triple teamed… and still made plays.

          • BruceN says:

            Your interview with Damien was priceless.

  2. uptop says:

    Any thoughts on the Utah TE Brant Kuithe, Rob? Against UW last week he was fantastic in the first half, very athletic and they even did a TE end around with him. I have no idea about his draft status but he is a Junior. He do have lots of TEs but his athletic profile is really intriguing.

  3. cha says:


    DJ Reed probably lining up opposite Griffin Sunday

    <blockquote<“Tre’s got a hamstring that’s bothering him. It’s gonna be a challenge for him to make it back,” Carroll told Dave Wyman. “Playing those sprinter positions you need it all, so that’s (going to go) all the way to game time before we can get an update, see if he has a chance.”

    Dunlap a game time decision. Sounds like he should be rested this week.

    “Carlos has a sore foot that he may be able to play with. We’ll have to see,” Carroll said. “He’s determined to play and all that. We’ll find out as we get to game time, really.”

    The piece doesn’t mention Brandon Shell’s ankle but he hasn’t practiced yet, so probably best to count on Ogbuehi.

  4. Chris Wood says:

    I know you don’t think a linebacker is a “need” for the Seahawks, but is it a stretch to think they may look for a SAM with a similar profile as Irvin? Irvin is coming off of a ACL injury at the age of 33 and we all know how much you loved the cost for him.

    KJ’s done a great job as a SAM but his quickness is still a downside for him at certain aspects to his game and I don’t know what he may ask for a new contract. I wouldn’t be to peeved if they were able to grab someone like Irvine, a player who can cover or rush depending on the personnel and the number of downs. I feel like more speed on the edge is never a bad thing when we play the 9’ers and Rams 2x a year.

    Great write up regardless, love the content!

    • uptop says:

      It would be great to have two young players at our LBs, Brooks at WILL and an athlete at SAM defending those niners and rams outside and stretch runs. Hopefully we can find an athlete later down in the draft for that reason, there are greater needs and some draft strengths that should be addressed in earlier rounds.

      • Chris Wood says:

        I feel if they have an opportunity to save money by letting KJ and Irvin sail off into the sunset they may look at that option, especially with the incoming Adams payday.
        I agree that there may be greater needs but killing two birds with one stone ain’t nothing to sneeze at.

    • Rob Staton says:

      Maybe but you can’t keep pouring resource into the LB position

      • Hoggs41 says:

        I hope they keep KJ as well but reduce his role to the SAM that comes off the field when in nickel. Let Brooks take over for full time at WILL. You would slso have some insurance if Brooks or Wagner went down. You may have to have a tough conversation with him though to let him know your plans in case he wanted to be a full time starter for another team. I wonder if you could get him for $4m if that indeed happened.

  5. cha says:

    Ian Rapoport
    The #Giants declare QB Daniel Jones (hamstring) to be doubtful for the game vs. the #Seahawks
    10:46 AM · Dec 4, 2020

  6. hawkfanforetenity says:

    Thanks for another fantastic write up Rob! There seem to be so few places where intelligent discussion happens online. This place, and the community is a treasure. I think there’s an under-rated group of people in the world who crave intelligent debate, but they fly under the radar due to the noise created by those unable, or unwilling to participate in such dialogue.

  7. DC says:

    Hitting the Sim early this year…

    R3 76. Alim McNeill, DT North Carolina State

    R4 121. Kyler Gordon, CB Washington

    R5 137. Tutu Atwell, WR Louisville

    R5 155. Jake Ferguson, TE Wisconsin

    • dcd2 says:

      Ferguson is really good. I’ll be surprised if he’s there in the 5th. We’re probably down to Dissley and Parkinson after this year, so TE could be a target.

      • Rob Staton says:

        Ferguson will go earlier than that. I think R2.

        • dcd2 says:

          I think that’s more like it. I like him more than Kmet and he went 2nd this year. The Penn St TE also looks really good.

          • Chris Wood says:

            For how little we use our TE’s I don’t wont the Seahawks to draft one sooner than the 5th round. I’d hate to use a high round draft pick on a decent tight end only for him to catch the ball once a game.

            • dcd2 says:

              Dissley played 72% of snaps, Hollister 55%, Parkinson 16% VS Philly. When a starting tackle goes down, having a good blocking TE (even if it’s just to chip) can help a guy like Cedric not get beat on every play.

              I’m not arguing for taking a TE with our first pick necessarily. If we took one of those guys, I wouldn’t be upset though. They are both really good blockers and receiving threats that will get drafted early.

              Existing talent can dictate ‘how often we use our TE’ too. KC and SF didn’t use the TE like they do now until Kelce and Kittle came to town.

              • Chris Wood says:

                I guess when I said “use” I should’ve elaborated on that. Yes I agree our tightends are important in our blocking duties but to me they are criminally under-utilized during our pass plays. The only time I see our tightends running a route is during play-action it seems. (I am a average fan , I don’t watch a lot of tape so I could be mistaken.)

                And while I agree that talent does dictate usage of a position, I also look at our history usage of that position too. The only tightend to receive a look from Wilson to me was Zack Martin. Graham was never thrown to until his last year of his contract in Seattle. And we’ve had a revolving door at that position since.

                I just feel like our tightends tend to play one dimensional so I’d hate for the Seahawks to spend a high draft pick on someone who only ends up playing a one dimensional role so to speak.

                • dcd2 says:

                  All good. At this stage, it’s just about finding guys you like (for those of us who are draft junkies). I think Ferguson looks like a really good TE. That was my main point.

                  Once we get through FA, we’ll have a better idea of what positions they might target. For now, it’s more of a carpet-bomb approach in finding guys you really like… at least for me.

                  Which, of course, makes our lack of picks so disheartening. Patrick Johnson (PITT) has been my (BobbyK/TJ Watt level) draft crush for two years, and we have no shot at him.

    • Qoolio says:

      I’ve been hitting the simulator early too. With it being a bit early for names, I wanted to see what return I might be able to get through the new pick trader.

      I went with the idea that we flipped Jamal Adams to Miami for #22. Since I feel Seattle will want to recover picks, I traded back and end up with:

      R2- #58, #60, #63
      R3- #83, #90
      R4- #121
      R5- #153, #155

      I like the quantity, but I also felt back about losing a chance to draft a potential difference maker in the first round.

  8. DAWGfan says:

    What are your thoughts on Cade Otton TE from UW? I was listening to Cam Cleeland(Former UW TE) and he thinks he may be the best TE at UW since Mark Bruener, but with better speed and agility. Also ZTF, he could go pro this year and has been unstoppable, I am a huge DAWG fan and he has been a revelation. No one expected him to kill it like he has this year.

    • DAWGfan says:

      Forgot to comment regarding Gordon. Love his potential, kid needs to stay at least another year to prove he is more than just an athlete. But if he does, sky is the limit and a potential top 10 pick. Really no program develops DB’s as well as UW right now and he just needs a little extra time to gain that experience.

    • DC says:

      I hope everyone who can stay, stays. Would be nice to have a head of steam going into the (full?) 2021 season and launch the Lake era properly. That man has created a DB to NFL factory.

    • Rob Staton says:

      I saw Otten last week but haven’t studied him enough to offer a worthwhile review

      • DAWGfan says:

        This week vs Stanford would be worthwhile. They like to play smashmouth and it will be great measuring stick for both Otton and ZTF.

        • Paul Cook says:

          My guess is that Kyler Gordon returns for his redshirt junior year. He really doesn’t have a lot of run yet, as he’s not even a starting CB, more like a 4th starter sitting on the top of the 2nd rung behind Elijah Molden, Keith Taylor, and Trent McDuffie. Also a pretty incredible ST’s player. This guy can jump, sprint, and move quick in tight spaces like nobody’s business.

          I think he needs to develop his body a little more, and just become a better all-round DB with time and experience. This guy could easily run up the draft board next year with a strong performance.

    • TheOtherJordan says:

      He is the best TE UW has had since Mark Bruener.

  9. Happy Hawk says:

    Thanks Rob great article and content. I have been looking at Walker Little as a potential replacement at Left Tackle. Heard he had one of the best Sparq testing ever for his position. Is that true? Where can you access these test scores for college players? Is this testing done only when players are in high school? Some other players I am interested in your opinion on for possible edge rushers in our draft range: Basham (Wake) Rumph (Duke) and Hamilcar Reshed Jr at (OSU). Could Trey Sermon 6ft 221 RB (Ohio St) be a late round option at RB should the Hawks let Carson test FA?

    • Rob Staton says:

      I’m not crazy about Basham. Rumph will be day three as will Reshed Jr.

      Little’s SPARQ score was good mostly because of the 4.40 short shuttle listed. The other testing wasn’t amazing.

  10. Lewis says:

    Anybody know how rookie contracts will be affected by the cap next year if it decreases? If rookie salaries will do with the cap, it could keep some early round guys from declaring.

  11. Magmatizer says:

    Elijah Molden has accepted his Senior Bowl invite. Should be a nice opportunity to showcase his skills.

  12. cha says:

    Friday Press Conf w PC

    [brady] Carlos Hyde??? “Took care of both, be ready to play.”
    [brady] Gordon return? “Really happy for him. Worked hard, played well, a lot of nice stuff. Thrilled for opp.”

    [Curtis] Shell back? “Shell really starting to move, it would be a surprise if he could play this weekend. Cedric calf bothering him resting today, just showed up today.”

    [john boyle] Called yourself out from bad first Q Philly game? “Teachable moment. That’s a message we send to players. Always use examples. Hoping team continues to be willing to hold themselves accountable. Willing to say ‘I did this’, ‘I did that’, how can I expect players if the coach isn’t. Uncommon, you don’t hear people do it often.”
    [john] Which Carlos? “Hyde. Find out about Dunlap at end of week. Pretty bright eyed about it, so we’ll see.”

    [Michael Shawn] RW combine interview like? [cha ed-oh brother] “Somebody said RW will come on strong. Believe what he says though. Always remember that. Mtg w RW and JS, guys. Very confident, clear, really level headed. Feel on the ground. Wasn’t intimidated. Really impressive.”
    [Michael shawn] What guys warned you about? “All kinds of stuff. Confident, sure of himself, he’ll make claims, might want to take seriously.”

    [joe fann] Ogbuehi at RT? “If he’s ready to go, yeah. First game, played better as game went on. Better 2nd game.”

    [corbin] Giving players 2nd and 3rd chances, important? Example that showed you benefit? “Yeah, felt that for a long time. Dad taught me that long ago. Liquor salesman in SF, guys come and go on his force. Give guys a 2nd chance. Guys have worked hard and have the resolve, makes you believe give their best shot, more than happy to give them another chance.”

    [art thiel] DL rotation worked? More Snacks? “Figure out as we go. Clint gauges during game, does a nice job. How guys perform. Like I now, no reason to change. Poona last 3 weeks more 3T and effective, played a lot of NT in past. Growing as a D every week. Important to gauge as we get close to end of season. Main thing not to wear guys out. Clint does a good job.”

    [bob condotta] Tre Flowers injury? “Came out of game hamstring tight, MRI, something to deal with. Not serious, enough to bother him this week. Take him all the way up to game time.”
    [bob] Reed I think ??? “Played there last time and did a nice job.”

    [maz veta] Home record well, why? Energy? “Played well, more emphasis that we have to provide energy. Bring it from start to finish. Staff and players, guys on sideline. Work hard at making sure we support one another. Connect and feed off each other.”

    [Gregg bell] Gordon in your program better than others? “How to make best can be. Josh has unique circumstances things he’s been through. Be an extraordinary support system. Competitively, I love this opp. Help him out. Give him backing, toughness he needs. Find a way to function smoothly. Find the best he has to offer. Unique challenge. Be there for him.”

    [joe fann] Carson 10 touches last week, keep or more work? “More’s good. Love seeing Chris play, couple catches too. Likely he gets it more. 30x run last week, RW had a few. Good number to shoot for. Like to see Chris get the ball more.”

    [Curtis] Penny & Taylor? “Penny practicing next week. Not heard back on Taylor, left town to see docs. Find out when we do.”

    [brady] Gordon support plan different than last year? “Know Josh better now, good level of trust. Really good system in all ways. He brings complex support group with him. Allow for that and add to it.”

    • Rob Staton says:

      I’m not sure we’ll ever see Darrell Taylor.

      • TomLPDX says:

        I hope that’s not the case. I’m going to remain optimistic, at least for now.

        • Rob Staton says:

          What cause is there for optimism though?

          Two weeks ago he was all set to return to practise.

          It never happened, Carroll’s tone has increasingly become negative and now he’s going for a second opinion from other doctors. But a second opinion on what exactly??? You don’t go for a second opinion to see whether you can start practising.

          As I’ve said a few times, established reporters pre-draft wondered whether Taylor would go undrafted due to the seriousness of this injury. It’s incredible the Seahawks traded up for him and are now in this situation.

          • TomLPDX says:

            There is too much we don’t know. Why isn’t it healing? Is there something else that can be done to help in that regard? Etc. I just hope he can get healthy for next year but like I said, we don’t know what is going on other than Pete speak (which tells us next to nothing).

            • Rob Staton says:

              You said you were remaining optimistic though. Surely you admit there’s nothing to be ‘optimistic’ about?

              • TomLPDX says:

                I’m definitely not optimistic about him playing this year and actually don’t expect him to. I’m at the point where I hope (hence the optimism) he will be ok for the long term and can play in the future. I’m not a Doc and the info we get from Pete is useless and we just don’t know what is actually happening to him.

                • Rob Staton says:

                  Well you’ve said we don’t know what is actually happening twice.

                  I know he’s been out for a year with a serious leg fracture and he’s now getting a second opinion out of town, despite hope from the team he might practise last week.

                  So that’s something to be pessimistic about. I can’t see any cause for optimism.

          • Malc from PO says:

            The team may also be guilty of thinking they could have lightning strike twice. They got Metcalf by trading up to take a player who had fallen because he teams were shy of a potentially career ending injury. Once bitten, twice shy but in this case maybe once lucky, twice reckless.

            • Rob Staton says:

              Perhaps. But the difference is Metcalf showed up at the combine and tested through the roof. He then went through all the vigorous medical checks you have at the combine and teams could request all of the details, information or re-testing they required during the process. So you were making an educated decision, even if many teams opted to avoid DK.

              With Taylor — the medical teams stopped him practising at the Senior Bowl. Then they stopped him doing drills at the combine. You couldn’t do any vigorous medical checks due to Covid shutting the country down. Taylor had a visit to Seattle but clearly they didn’t get the information they needed because Carroll has since admitted they made an error in judging his injury. This was the opposite of an educated decision. It was a shot in the dark because they were absolutely desperate for a pass rusher, after flunking free agency.

      • James Cr. says:

        Agreed – I have resigned myself to expecting him to never play. The way Pete is so vague is a telling sign IMO.

      • cha says:

        It’s ominous.

        He said last Friday that Taylor would meet with the doctors ‘Monday or Tuesday for the final time.’ Assuming that actually happened, it appears those docs didn’t or wouldn’t sign off on activating Taylor and/or found something they wanted an outside source to verify.

        • Rob Staton says:

          Desperation inspires bad decisions.

          Trading up for Taylor because they failed to properly address the pass rush in FA, trading as much as they did for Jamal Adams.

          All of this was because they didn’t sort out their priorities in March.

          They can’t put themselves in that position ever again. They’ve got to start setting up the draft to allow it to come to them.

          The mismanagement of the resources this year was astonishing.

          I still can’t believe Carroll said a few weeks ago that they basically ‘made a mistake’ on Taylor’s injury.

        • BobbyK says:

          Everyone who is a semi-regular here knows that I loved TJ Watt and hated Malik McDowell. That being said, they traded down a couple times and ACQUIRED extra picks to pass on Watt and draft McFailure. One of those acquired picks turned into Chris Carson in the 7th round. I can live with that to a certain degree. The draft is a crapshoot.

          However, they TRADED UP for Taylor. Not only did they forfeit an opportunity to draft a Jeremy Chinn, DaVon Hamilton, etc. with their 2nd round pick but they also threw away the 3rd round Earl Thomas comp pick to go get Taylor. That is even more unacceptable than the Malik McDowell disaster. Add to the disaster is the fact that the Steelers took a young superstar in the making, Chase Claypool with the pick after Taylor.

        • Big Mike says:

          Sad situation, for the team and the kid.

      • Elmer says:

        Another McDowell but for a different reason?

        • Rob Staton says:

          It’s trending that way it seems.

          Except I get the McDowell pick. They had a loaded roster, he was a top-10 talent who fell and it was worth taking a chance on him. His recklessness on a quad bike ruined his chances of a career. I wish they’d taken TJ Watt instead but I don’t blame the Seahawks for taking a shot on McDowell.

          On Taylor — it was a pure desperation move. And he was already injured. They took him anyway, traded up for him too, through desperation over the pass rush.

          • AlaskaHawk says:

            I think the McDowell pick was a failure of mentoring/training and contract terms. He needed someone to monitor his activities over the summer. Someone needed to emphasize no motorcycles or ATV’s. I say this because I have lost at least 6 young people I know to those activities. And after my friend’s pregnant wife hit a bump at medium speed, fell off her ATV and broke her arm. Fortunately the baby was unharmed.

            • Rob Staton says:

              It’s hard to stipulate something as specific as ATV’s though. What if it was the first time he’d ever been on one?

              • AlaskaHawk says:

                That’s a good reason for not being on it. People just don’t realize the danger, and people that age think they are immune.

                I don’t see why it is hard to put something specific in a contract. How about no drugs, no murder, no smacking women, no atv’s, and no motorcycles.

      • Shawn says:

        What about in 2021?

        Considering how few picks we have next year, getting Taylor healthy and he could be a defacto 2021 pick for us.

        • Rob Staton says:

          He had a serious leg fracture and a year later, it hasn’t healed.

          They were hoping to get him on the practise field at the start of last week. Now he’s going for a second opinion out of town.

          I think we need to see him on a football field before we can have any hopes for him playing for the Seahawks.

      • CaptainJack says:

        Looks even worse on the team than McDowell.

        McDowell’s injury happened after we drafted him. Taylor’s injury happened before and we just didn’t do enough to look into it.

      • BruceN says:

        You mean not this year, right?

  13. charlietheunicorn says:

    Alim McNeil (DT, NC State)
    I would not be adverse to lining him up next to Reed and in a rotation with Harrison and Ford. You would have a very dynamic DL in the interior….. making Dunlap one of your DEs and leaving only 1 other DE and / or LEO type (Irvin/Mayowa?) to start opposite side. Not a bad looking collection of names who have contributed in the NFL, mixed with a few young pups.

    Tutu Atwell (WR, Louisville)
    Strong argument for Seahawks taking a swing on him. Feels like he is a luxury pick, but Richardson was not the “traditional” WR Seattle craved and they still took him. They now have their big guys now (Gordon?/Metcalf), so they need shifty/fast WRs the make the offense even more explosive.

    Aaron Banks (G, Notre Dame)
    I’m tracking you here. I think LG is a priority position to get sorted out in 2021. They brought Lewis in and he contributed from day #1. If you can find another guy along the OL who can contribute day #1 then you have to do it. I love the idea of a fortified LG/C/RG combo that can grow together for 2-3 years.

    Journey Brown (RB, Penn State)
    Selfishly, I wonder how he would have translated to the NFL….. but the heart condition was caught and he will not be able to realize that dream.

    Were their any other RBs that screamed Seahawks? They have such a set profile, I can’t see them taking any one who doesn;t match it… SPARQ, Production, Grit wise…. in a 5’10” 220 package.

    • Rob Staton says:

      I haven’t seen any RB’s who scream Seahawks so far.

      I don’t think LG is a priority position. If Haynes or Simmons have to take that job, or if they retain Iupati, it won’t be the end of the world. I like Banks a lot though — hopefully they can address their other needs and set themselves up to go BPA.

      However, there are major question marks on the DL and at corner.

    • uptop says:

      I would love a speedy/shifty receiver, we need someone to run sweeps and stretch the field horizontally and vertically. Hopefully we can find someone in the latter parts of the draft

      • dcd2 says:

        It’s funny that they’re trying to use Moore in that role. Swain seems like he’s be better suited. Moore looks like he’s running in sand.

        • uptop says:

          To be fair Moore looked serviceable in that position earlier in the season, he’s clearly banged up. Other than Dorsett they don’t have the players personnel-wise to run that effectively, Im not sure if swain is the answer either. It’s weird because Swain’s measurables are nearly identical as Robert Woods, but he isn’t there yet.

          • Gohawks5151 says:

            I could have sworn they would have used Swain on returns. He was good at that while at Florida. Moore kind of has a pattern of fading as the season goes along. I do like him and hope I’m wrong.

            • uptop says:

              Hopefully we can see more of him then, it feels like he’s either raw or underutilized. Maybe Skybox Schotty can cook up something for Swain. He has the measurables and college tape that makes me think he can do a lot more. With Moore banged up maybe we’ll see more.

    • Sea Mode says:

      Somehow this just dawned on me… 🤯

      Can someone please get a pic from behind of “Harrison” “Ford” lined up next to each other!

  14. HawkFan907 says:


    Have you had a chance to watch BYU LT Brady Christensen while watching some Zach Wilson tape? He is PFFs top rated OT this year, and was ranked 14th last year while playing a much tougher schedule. He looks like a great technician and plays we great strength. Downsides are his age, and his weight, but it looks like he can easily add on 15 pounds.

    Could be a mid round option to eventually supplant Brown on the left side.

  15. Gohawks5151 says:


    You consider Kwitty Paye freaky? Sometimes I think Carlos Basham is too. What range does Gordon go if he does come out? Have you had the chance to go watch Jermar Jefferson from Oregon St yet?

    • dcd2 says:

      Jefferson (OSU) looks good as a later pick if he declares. He’s probably the best RB in the PAC in my eyes. Very under the radar at this point.

      • Gohawks5151 says:

        Such a wild card if any of these Pac 12 guys come back besides the ones that opted out to start. Jermar is one of the rare ones that is showing out in this short season.

  16. GhostGH says:

    Anyone have a good feel for the OT class next year? Outside of Sewell the top end seems shallow

    • BobbyK says:

      I have never believed in a “good draft class” at a certain position.

      For example, what about ’19 and it supposedly being a good DL draft class. Who cares if all the pass rushers you want are gone by the time you pick? It does not matter.

      I loved the ’19 WR class. I especially loved the Ohio State WRs. But what if you only drafted 1 WR and it was Paris Campell? I loved that guy, but he sucks through 2 years in comparison to his OSU teammate or anyone from Ole Miss. If you “tapped into” that receiver class… it doesn’t matter! No?

      • charlietheunicorn says:

        The 2019 draft class has had multiple stand-outs. For example, Paris hasn’t lived up to the hype per sai, but he has only been in the league 2 seasons… and could still improve. He had dog doo doo throwing him the ball and battled some injuries in year 1.. sadly, year 2 had different and more consequential injuries pop up.

        Remarkable that both of the top end Miss St WRs have shown up big in the NFL…. There were at least 4-5 legit WR taken in the 1st 3 rounds….

        • McZ says:

          I take lots of pride in wanting Olamide Zachaeus as UDFA in 2018. He had something special, and now he is Atlantas WR#3.

          This years equivalent is TJ Vasher. There is a highlight video on YT, he is 6’6 and has insane arms. Lots of potential, low floor, low risk.

    • AlaskaHawk says:

      My recollection is that first rounders are about 60% successful (based on getting a second contract) and the odds just go down from there. So even if you do pick a first rounder 4 out of 10 won’t be successful. By the time your are picking in the 5th round, it is more like 1 out of 5 players will be successful).

    • Volume12 says:

      Looks like a good class to me.

      Penei Sewell, Oregon
      Dillon Radunz, ND St.
      Liam Eichenberg, ND
      Rashawn Slater, N’western
      Christian Darrisaw, VA-Tech
      Alijah Vera-Tucker, USC
      Spencer Brown, N. Iowa
      Rasheed Walker, Penn St.
      Sam Cosmi, Texas
      Jalen Mayfield, Michigan
      Walker Little, Stanford
      Teven Jenkins. OK St.
      Alex Leatherwood, ‘Bama (probably a G next level)
      Jackson Carman, Clemson (ditto)

  17. charlietheunicorn says:

    ZION TUPUOLA-FETUI / DE/OLB UW (red-shirt sophomore)

    I didn’t realize he was listed at 6’3″ 280. I had thought he was in the 260 lb range.
    He is larger than I was expecting, could play DE in the NFL (???)

  18. Dave says:

    I’m sorry – Alim McNeil has put on 50lbs?? Holy moly that’s insane!

    • McZ says:

      A really comprehensive list. I watched ND vs NC, and Banks was the prototype LG. He is as plug’n play like Lewis.

      Those ND TEs are all worth a look, especially Tremble.

      I think, with our picks, we could also tap into the excellent unloading Boston College OL.

      Dyami Brown and Dazz Newsome seem to be good mid round options in a n otherwise meh WR draft. RB also doesn’t look good.

    • Rob Staton says:

      It’s not bad weight either.

      The NC State training staff are insane. They’ve transformed several players over the last few years.

  19. Sea Mode says:


    Mike Garafolo

    From @gmfb Weekend: #Eagles assistant Press Taylor called offensive plays for the the entire second half against the #Seahawks, though Doug Pederson doesn’t think it’s that big of a deal.

  20. Sea Mode says:

    He was $ for a while. Thanks for the memories.


  21. Sea Mode says:

    Wow, Tony. 😲

    Personally, I love Fields’ next-level potential and feel he would be the odds-on No. 1 pick in any draft that didn’t include Lawrence. Fields will be rated higher than Joe Burrow, Tua Tagovailoa, Sam Darnold, and so on. In my opinion, Fields is a potentially better version of Russell Wilson.


    • Big Mike says:

      Fields is very good but a couple of those picks he threw last week against Indiana are red flags to me. Russ threw 3 his entire Sr. season iirc.

    • BobbyK says:

      That’s pretty high praise (saying he could be a better version of someone who will be in HOF one day).

      • Volume12 says:

        I’m all for some hyperbole, but that’s a bit rich.

      • charlietheunicorn says:

        Someone has to get the pre draft hype train going for various guys. Might as well get Fields onboard early. Seriously doubt he would go #1 “most years”….. top 10 is more realistic.

  22. Volume12 says:

    Texas RB Bijon Robinson is gonna be a star

  23. Rushless pass says:

    Rob, have you watched much tape to n Zaven Collins, the edge from Tulsa?

  24. cha says:

    Seahawks PR
    injury report update: T Cedric Ogbuehi is Questionable (calf) for tomorrow’s game.
    11:24 AM · Dec 5, 2020

    • Rushless pass says:

      Blessing in disguise?

    • Sea Mode says:

      We should just rest anyone who’s not 100%. Cedric, Dunlap, anyone. Personally, I’m almost inclined to keep Carson in bubble wrap. Sure, he’s nice to have now. But we NEED him in the playoffs. If we’re up big and PC is still sending him out there to close out the game, I’m gonna be upset.

    • Big Mike says:

      Who plays RT if he and Shell are both out?

    • cha says:

      I’d imagine Chad Wheeler or Tommy Champion would be one of the PS activations for tomorrow.

  25. AlaskaHawk says:

    Best college games today?? I just tuned into West Virginia vs Iowa State.

  26. Paul Cook says:

    Something new for the Huskies today. Kyler Gordon starting at safety. That’s different. Don’t know if it’s the result of injury or Covid or not.

  27. charlietheunicorn says:

    Ok, now I know something is wrong with officiating and the OL.

    Chicago OG Ifedi has a grand total of 2 penalties this season.
    For reference, he had (at OT) 18 or so in 2019 for the Seahawks.

    • DougK says:

      Holding penalties are down across the league this year, they are letting them play more it seems. There have been a few articles about it on other sites especially earlier this season. Though recently (last 3-4 weeks), it feels like they are starting to call more of them (I don’t have any numbers to back that up but that’s the feeling I get).

  28. Big Mike says:

    I think Rob cursed Elijah Moulden. He’s missed 2 tackles already and was late filling a hole and it’s still the first quarter.
    Entire Huskies D looks like puke so far.

    • Paul Cook says:

      Second game in a row they’ve started mentally and physically clunky. Getting gaps against them blown wide open on the line, and already making 3 or 4 bad mental mistakes. I can’t figure out why they came out so flat again at the start. You’d think they would have come out with some real edge after last week.

  29. Big Mike says:

    Now Moulden out hurt.
    I was only kidding Rob!

    Very flat man. Just a really sad showing so far.

  30. Sea Mode says:

    In for tryouts today:

    QB J.T. Barrett
    QB Alex McGough
    TE Tyree Jackson

    (Remember Tyree Jackson was also drafted as a QB and was most recently Cardale Jones’ backup at QB for the XFL’s DC Defenders.)

  31. Sea Mode says:


    Tom Pelissero

    #Eagles CB Darius Slay was fined $10,500 for unnecessary roughness in his tussle with #Seahawks WR D.K. Metcalf last week.

    Metcalf had 10 catches for 177 yards. Slay ended up with a penalty and now a fine on top of it.

    • AlaskaHawk says:

      It couldn’t have happened to a nicer guy. the Eagles are “going to need a bigger cornerback”. Cue ominous shark music.

  32. Paul Cook says:

    There’s no need for any deep analysis about that first half of the Husky game. Stanford’s OL beat the living crap out of our defensive front. It was an embarrassing display of football manhood.

  33. Blitzy the Clown says:

    OMG what a catch by Ty Jones!

  34. uptop says:

    Ty Jones would be an intriguing option if he comes out, huge athletic potential but not super consistent, I’d rather take a shifty fly sweep guy though.

    • CaptainJack says:

      No thank you. That dude makes 1 or 2 amazing catches a season and for the rest of the year drops the easy stuff and makes low effort after low effort play.

  35. Ukhawk says:

    Such a cool article.

  36. vbullen65 says:

    Hey Rob, 710 ESPN is reading and stealing your stuff..You put out a great article on the thought of Richard Sherman and the Seahawks reuniting and now ESPN does the same thing…

    • Rob Staton says:

      Well I don’t own the rights to discuss the topic 😂 😉

      The 710 ESPN article was a summary of Bob & Dave discussing a Sherman return. Bob mentioned he’d seen something on twitter suggesting Sherman should/could come back. He couldn’t remember the source of the tweet but said he thought it came from Tom Pelissero or Ian Rapoport. I suspect, given Bob follows me on twitter, he’s probably referring to the article I put out a few days ago. I haven’t seen TP or IR talking about Sherman going back to Seattle and I haven’t seen anything similar to my tweets/piece this week. So it probably was the tweet I put out linking to the article.

      Nevertheless, I can’t be sure about that and even if it was my tweet he saw, it doesn’t really matter. It doesn’t bother me. I think it’s a good topic to discuss. And while I’d always love a plug to SDB, I’m not precious about it. This is just an independent blog written by a bloke from England.

      More importantly I’d like to see Sherm back. And I’d like to see him come back and finish his career the right way with the right team. Plus it would piss off the Niners, which is a bonus.

  37. AlaskaHawk says:

    Washington making a come back against Stanford. At least the game is interesting.

    • Big Mike says:

      Over now.
      Husky defensive line was an embarrassment today.

      • Paul Cook says:

        Unbelievable that they had three chances on 3rd and long to get Stanford off the field and inexplicably give themselves a chance to win the game. Yet they couldn’t. Very much like the Hawks D most of the season. Frustrating as hell.

  38. Paul Cook says:

    I think Stanford has converted all but two 3rd down situations. It’s like the Hawks D most of the season.

    • CaptainJack says:

      Husky pass rush took the game off. Felt like the seahawks against the Bills combined with the Vikings.

  39. CaptainJack says:

    UW pups should be outright embarrassed after that ass whoopin. In college football if you win the line of scrimmage, you win the game.

    • Paul Cook says:

      I would characterize the Huskies defensive front’s performance today as a token gesture. I might have to reevaluate some of the personnel up front. I know they’re missing a guy like Latu, but most of the rest came in as pretty high 4 star recruits. ZTF was actually a quiet 3 star recruit. Some of these guys got to start putting their man pants on now.

  40. Hoggs41 says:

    If we did end up just having three draft picks which three positions would people most want them to target?

    • AlaskaHawk says:

      I think the usual defensive end pick is a lost cause. I would go for a receiver, a center/guard, and a cornerback. In any order.

      • Paul Cook says:

        My order would be…

        1) Any DT or DE with upside potential
        2) Best CB or OT you can find
        3) Best CB or OT you can find

        I’m a little surprised that people have been focusing on OG rather than OT of late. We will need a replacement for Brown and possibly Shell soon enough, and we seem to have a little more depth in the interior line than the exterior, though such a thing could surely be characterized as precarious.

        But I’ll take just about any potential upside talent at OL, DL, CB, or even RB.

        FAcy is going to dictate a lot this year, though. Crazy year.

        • AlaskaHawk says:

          I agree with you that offensive tackles are harder to find and more valuable then interior linemen. But lately the Seahawks have been happy to pay veterans. Also we are talking about picks starting at the bottom of the second round, after the tackles have been picked thru. I see a guard as a lot safer pick, like Lewis was.

          • Paul Cook says:

            Basically anybody who pans out and performs as a true starter would be fine by me. So there’s that. 🙂

    • BobbyK says:

      Free agency will change things, but as of today I’d like:

      1. DT
      2. DE
      3. CB

      I like our starting DTs but the depth is horrible. The starters are playing too many snaps and if there was an injury – they’re screwed.

      I’d feel differently if Malik Taylor would see the field this year. But with Darrell McDowell looking like a bust, they can’t ignore another legit rusher because as of now Dunlap is the only one and age isn’t on his side and you can’t depend on Robinson developing to be that compliment to Dunlap.

      CB concern could/would be my top concern most years, that just shows how bad the state of the DL still is.

    • Paul Cook says:

      Sherm’s a smart guy. He’s probably looked at the team’s aggregate numbers closely enough to know that as a 32 year old he can’t expect them to pony up for his services again.

      Yeah…he’d be a nice stopgap for us talent-wise and leadership-wise. I think he still has a home here.

      We’ll see.

    • CaptainJack says:

      Not thrilled with that idea in general. He’s still a bit of a head ache inducing player.

      • Rob Staton says:

        Is he? We’ve heard very little from him over the last three years. He’s been a model of professionalism and leadership in San Fran.

        I think Sherm and the Seahawks were right to part after 2017. It was best for both parties. But a reunion in 2021 makes a lot of sense. Seattle has a massive issue at corner and needs a proven, legit, scheme expert who can still play at a high level.

        • CaptainJack says:

          Injuries marred his season this year, likely to be an issue next year as well. Got burned badly in the Super Bowl. I think the better solution is a younger player, either a later round draft pick or an under the radar free agent pick up.

          • Rob Staton says:

            They haven’t drafted a late round corner who’s worked out in years.

            All of their outside the scheme additions seem to flop.

            Sherman is proven in the scheme and while he’s had injuries, so has half of Seattle’s team. I’d rather take my chances on Sherm than rely on a R5 rookie.

    • BobbyK says:

      Would love to have him back!

    • BruceN says:

      Just the other day I heard Lynch saying he wants Sherm to stay a 49er. We’ll see. I wouldn’t mind a reunion if he brings the same attitude as Marshawn. He’s been a good leader and a teammate for the Niners. Much more quiet than his time in Seattle.

  41. Denver Hawker says:

    Isaiah Wilson suspended for violating team rules. Rough first year for that kid.

    • CaptainJack says:

      All the reports on Jordyn Brooks predraft seemed to mention his maturity level.
      May be a good thing to continue to screen for, because even if he hasn’t been amazing, he’s been level headed, on the field, and contributes when he can.

      • Darnell says:

        Yep, this offseason/season, perhaps more so than others, there was significant value in bringing mature “grown men” into the program. And you see that with Lewis and Brooks being ready to play on an 8-3 team without much offseason programming. To a lesser extent, Deejay and Freddie being trusted to play speaks well of them too.

  42. BoiseSeahawk says:

    Quick mock on Draft Network:

    58. Marvin Wilson, DT Florida State
    127. Malcolm Koonce, EDGE Buffalo
    166. Ambry Thomas, CB Michigan
    230. Aaron Banks, OL Notre Dame

  43. JD says:

    Rob and others,

    What do you make of the timing of the Sherman not likely to re-sign news? Seems odd in the middle of the season when they are still in the playoff hunt.

    Props to Rob for bringing this up as a possibility with a very detailed article.

    • charlietheunicorn says:

      My read is he is trying to keep his profile high, so when Saleh goes to Detriot… he gets 1 more fat deal.

    • Rob Staton says:

      I think he was just asked a question about it and he answered honestly.

      However, I think a reunion is in the offing. It makes sense for both parties.

    • BruceN says:

      The Niners have communicated they want him back and are looking into extending him. It’ll be interesting to see where he ends up.

  44. charlietheunicorn says:

    Rob, did you have any thoughts you wanted to share about Diego Armando Maradona passing away recently. He certainly changed the world in 1986 WC.

    • Rob Staton says:

      My dad once stayed in a hotel in Argentina. He heard a load of noise in the next room. Shouting and arguing. He stuck his head out of the door to see what was going on. Maradona was stood there in the corridor, stark bollock naked.

  45. cha says:

    Adam Schefter
    Giants’ QB Colt McCoy is expected to start Sunday against the Seahawks in place of the injured Daniel Jones, per source. Jones still is recovering from a hamstring injury, and the Giants also promoted practice-squad QB Clayton Thorson to the active roster for Sunday’s game.
    8:48 PM · Dec 5, 2020

    Adam Schefter
    Seahawks’ RB Carlos Hyde, who is listed as questionable for Sunday’s game due to a lingering case of turf toe, will play vs. the Giants, per source.
    8:46 PM · Dec 5, 2020·

    • Lewis says:

      Turf toe sounds innocuous, but it isn’t. They should rest him. Let Dallas get a few more plays. Though I guess they expect Penny back soon, but they could have put Hyde on IR now to get him back that much faster.

  46. Denver Hawker says:

    DeVonta Smith is a top 5 talent.

  47. David K says:

    Kyler Gordon is a true sophomore and is not eligible for the 2021 draft.

  48. Sea Mode says:

    So, what you guys feeling for the game today? We gonna make it a struggle or just put Clipboard Jesus away early…?

    • Sea Mode says:

      *Not the real clipboard Jesus, of course, I mean just a career backup, which it seems we somehow always find a way to struggle against…

    • Rob Staton says:

      Probably will be unnecessarily messy and close but I’m anticipating the most straight forward win of the season so far with no need for any fourth quarter headaches.

    • TomLPDX says:

      Just for once, I’d like to see 35-6 win where we just score quickly and cruise to a victory. A guy can dream! Probably be more like what Rob described though. I just hope nobody gets hurt.

      • Sea Mode says:

        Exactly. I think we’re long overdue for a blowout win, but we all know PC loves those 4th-quarter nail-biters so he can give his speech afterwards in the locker room… 😜

      • Mick says:

        Best thing to happen today is that everyone walks off healthy. Not worried about the outcome, we could even rest Dunlap and Carson if need be. I’d also consider giving Geno Smith a couple snaps in the last quarter just to be on the safe side corona-wise.

        • Gary says:

          Just once in my lifetime: A clean game, no penalties, no injuries, no wasted timeouts, dominate time of possession, long sustained drives, 75-80% third down conversion rate, offence rediscovers Tyler Lockett and TEs, good balance of run and pass, no fourth quarter drama, and cruise to a 30-point victory. Dare to dream!

  49. Sea Mode says:

    Per Rapoport:

    This past Wednesday, Clowney quietly underwent surgery to repair his left meniscus, a procedure that requires months of rehab and knocks him out for the remainder of the season, sources say.


    This surgery was done on Clowney’s left knee, while previously he underwent successful microfracture surgery on his right knee. This one is also said to be straight-forward with no additional issues.

    For the Titans, it closes the book on a 2020 signing that didn’t work out as all parties had hoped. Clowney was paid $13 million for eight games and no sacks, though he was disruptive when he was on the field.


  50. swedenhawk says:

    Was looking through the SDB archives a bit today Rob. Have you written up FSU’s Josh Kaindoh? I haven’t really been following him. But as a former 5-star recruit, he seems like he has the length, athleticism, and upside the Seahawks would be looking for, but in the middle/late rounds.

  51. John_s says:

    Javonte Williams is a RB I really like. Ridiculous balance, low center of gravity, continually breaks tackles. Excellent vision.

  52. Big Mike says:

    I’ve been meaning to drop a comment about the end of your Seahawks versus Giants preview Podcast Rob. Your insistence that we must beat the Rams is absolutely spot on. I am sick to death of losing to them and looking badly in the process. If this team really wants to compete for a Super Bowl they are going to have to beat the Rams in the regular season and quite possibly again in the playoffs. Also, very little chance for the 1 seed with another loss imo.

  53. Happy Hawk says:

    Clowney out for the year with a season ending injury. Also Richard Sherman on record as saying he is a FA in March probably won’t return to SF next year. Penny coming back next week and Taylor most likely out until next year.

    • Big Mike says:

      Who’s this Taylor you speak of?
      Oh, you mean Malik Taylor……….or is it Darrell McDowell?
      (posted with full credit to BobbyK for initially coming up with this…I just loved it so much I’m trying to keep it going)

  54. Volume12 says:

    Brownies are giving it to the Titans.

  55. Scot04 says:

    Rob, I know we don’t have the draft capital; but have you had the chance to watch Malik Willis of Liberty. I would love to have someone to learn behind Wilson. Phenomenal athlete with a great arm.

    Also while I think Kylin Hill is a fit, what about Elijah Dotson similar player just a smaller package; seams to be a guy who can do it all. He really seems to like contact.

    A corner I’ve been watching is Allie Green, and
    Green showed well vrs Oklahoma State. Not 4.4 speed but seems to cover well in press and zone.
    Robert Rochell also seems like he might fit and he is fast.

    Any thoughts

  56. Big Mike says:

    Jets leading the Raiders. Would love to see them win so they could relax and not worry about going 0-16 and then not care so much next week.

  57. Volume12 says:

    Is Dunbar back?

  58. charlietheunicorn says:

    Falcons giving a good fight to the Saints
    Jaguars are holding the Vikings down currently
    Tians laying an egg, but showing some life against the Browns

  59. charlietheunicorn says:

    The Seahawks’ inactives vs. the Giants:
    RT Brandon Shell, RT Cedric Ogbuehi, G Phil Haynes, DE Jonathan Bullard and RB Travis Homer.

    Put Dunlap and Hyde on pitch counts.. call it a day. Getting out of the game healthy is the most important thing right now. Get offense on track/balanced attack and maintain defensive improvements also are secondary objectives.

    • cha says:

      Jamarco Jones, time to shine.

      • Big Mike says:

        Not exactly going out on a limb here but expect Jemarco will be better than Cedric was last week.

    • AlaskaHawk says:

      Every year it’s a new offensive line. Two new players out of five, and a center that never started for more than a couple games. Now that the two right tackles have gotten injured, there will be more new players on the line. Just for once – I would like to see the offense line be put together with some solid players and continuity from year to year. Russell deserves better, and so do the running backs. End of rant!

      • DC says:

        To my eye test, the OL has been serviceable. Not near the liability that they’ve been over the last 4-5 years. Maybe the NFL recognized the league wide OL horror show & decided to ‘de-criminalize’ offensive holding.

        • charlietheunicorn says:

          Ifedi with his 18 penalties leaving the team and Lewis being added at RG with minimal errors and working with Shell as a good 2 man right side (RG/RT) are the difference. Perhaps all the false start penalties….. or lack of them, is the real story.

          • AlaskaHawk says:

            The story is whether Shell can come back, how long Lupati will stay in, and whether the rest of the line will stay healthy. Even if you think this line is serviceable, I bet they change/lose two more starters over the off season.

  60. charlietheunicorn says:

    Titans…… getting back into their game against the Brownies

  61. charlietheunicorn says:

    -10.5 SEA / NYG

    Humm…… something fishy here.

  62. Kenny Sloth says:


  63. charlietheunicorn says:

    How the hell are the Jets even in the Raiders game…… with a chance to win…..

  64. Paul Cook says:

    Okay. Is everybody ready for the Hawks to play down to their competition and make a game of it today?

  65. AlaskaHawk says:

    Game ON!

  66. Big Mike says:

    Falcons got to the saints 13 yd line 2nd and 2 and could not convert the 1st down or score the touchdown and will lose. 🙁

  67. Sea Mode says:

    Nice. Carson dishing it right back to Peppers!

  68. Sea Mode says:

    Running game looks promising.

  69. cha says:

    1st and 10 from the Giants’ 13 and they don’t hand the ball to Carson even once.

  70. TomLPDX says:

    3 points…I’ll take it to start, no stupid 4th and whatever and fail on execution…60 minutes Pete!

  71. charlietheunicorn says:

    The BROWNS!


  72. James Kupihea says:

    Interesting to see this NY dumpster fire up close. I wonder just how good we can make them look before we eventually pull away.

  73. cha says:


    Would be nice if the Rams could gift wrap a TD to the Seahawks like this.

  74. Volume12 says:

    Oh no 🙏

  75. Tony says:

    Losing lockett is a huge deal. Hoping we dont suffer crazy injuries. Hope its just a small tweek.

  76. charlietheunicorn says:

    Iupati wiffed on that blitz pick-up

  77. Robbie says:

    Man Hyde was wide open

  78. Tony says:

    Lets feed to carson today. Dont go pass happy.

  79. Matt says:

    So I guess we are looking at another ugly game where we eek out a win versus a bad team. I’m just…not hopeful for the playoffs, at all.

  80. Pran says:

    They have no plans o fix offense..is it. If u can’t score against shitty nfc east you have no business in play offs.

    You paid kings ransom for a safety…and commentators treat him like a backup w.r.t coverage …trade is a disaster. You would expect a Mack, Ramsey performance for that much dough

  81. Kenny Sloth says:

    Here we go making bum QBs look like studs again

  82. cha says:

    Seahawks announce Lockett being evaluated for concussion. Questionable to return.

    • Kenny Sloth says:

      Yeah everybody talking about his knee or ankle I was more concerned with the knee he took to the crown of the helmet.

  83. Matt says:

    What’s our record with a league average schedule? 6-5 at best?

  84. James Kupihea says:

    Needed that

  85. charlietheunicorn says:

    Neal….a strong play on the TE to make a tough throw….

  86. RIP Sonics says:

    Made me go back and check when I saw Phillips is #15 on Miami this year because #15 on Miami last year was an absolute stud. I think he opted out due to COVID 19 concerns but I wonder if he will declare as a Rs. So this year or if he can without playing this year. DE Gregory Rousseau (6-7/265/R. So.) – 15.5 sacks last year as a freshman. Jumps off the screen when you watched Miami last year.
    The other dude I really like in the ACC is #11 on Virginia. Charles Snowden (6-7/240/Sr) – He shows up every where on the field. Long and rangy, long arms, great sifting through traffic, elite acceleration, potential as coverage LB, elite college pass rusher. He just looks like a Seahawk. Could line up as LEO or SAM. Seems to have some limitation in the run game which would be a concern drafting him.
    The TE on Virginia is also a stud. #87 TE Tony Poljan (6-7/265/Sr. 2021). This dude makes plays in every game. Former basketball player and quarterback in high school. Great body control and physical blocker. Lines up at FB at times lifting DE and LB in the run game then makes a catch down field in double coverage. Made a play against miami that was crazy getting his foot in bounds in the back of the end zone. Then against North Carolina he held on to a ball over the middle through two big shots from Safety and Corner and twisted to get in the end zone looking unaffected. I would love to see him in our offense.
    Another Miami guy that jumps out who I am curious about is the Safety #5 Amari Carter. The dude just looks like Kam out there at times but other games he is invisible. Such is the position of Safety I suppose but wonder if you have any thoughts on him watching Miami Rob. Thanks for this blog!
    Happy Holidays!

  87. Volume12 says:

    Hell yeah!

  88. charlietheunicorn says:

    Run the ball, play action pass time.

  89. AlaskaHawk says:

    Diggs, Neal and Reed are playing well. Is this the feel of a decent secondary ??? Where is Adams, has he been playing?

  90. Tony says:

    Not sure why some of yall are so negative so early. I havent seen anything freaking me out yet. After 4 total drives, its to early to be nervous.

    • Troy says:

      Need Diggs to play well for this defense to be at least average, very encouraging

    • Volume12 says:


      • Mark Musiitwa says:

        I just won’t understand why seahawks fans don’t like Diggs. One of the best safeties. How much seams or post as he allowed? Imagine how bad this defense would be without him before you start criticizing him.

        • Matthew says:

          Yes totally agree. I think people criticize him like he is a bad safety. I just don’t understand. Jamal Adams’ blitzing lets down his grade on PFF. We would be giving up so much deep plays without him. Just look how exposed we were against New England and in 2019 without him

          • Rob Staton says:

            They didn’t seem to be giving up huge deep plays in 2018 when he wasn’t here and they had a good pass rusher.

            Here’s the discussion on Adams. It’s purely this. Adams is a fantastic blitzer. That is an asset, without question. However, the need to have him constantly in attack mode often leaves issues at the second and third level. The Carroll system isn’t used to having a player play this way. You have to have him blitzing though because if he doesn’t, that’s akin to asking Russell Wilson not to scramble.

            There’s a give and take with Adams that simply exists. And the question for the end of the season is whether or not that give and take is worth about $18m a year.

    • Matt says:

      Giants are atrocious with a backup QB and we are *allegedly* a Super Bowl contender. Not freaking out, but we look like a big pile of meh, yet again.

      • Tony says:

        We are moving ball decently. Defense hasnt been attrocious. Its the nfl, jets almost beat raiders.

        • Matt says:

          Honest question, do you expect this team to do anything in the playoffs? Because the team we are seeing right now is going to have an early vacation.

  91. Volume12 says:

    That’s awesome to hear what DK did. That’s his buddy man

  92. charlietheunicorn says:

    Passing the ball more than I thought they would….. need balance in the force

  93. James Kupihea says:

    Wait, isn’t Elijah Penny, Rashad’s bro? No mention of that earlier.

  94. cha says:

    Passing on a 54-55 yard FG try? I don’t know.

  95. Matt says:

    I’m sorry…I just can’t handle Pete anymore. 4th on the 37 and we opt to punt? Jesus…hope you guys are ready for 1 and done in the playoffs.

  96. Big Mike says:

    3 total rushing attempts so far. I don’t like this game plan

  97. charlietheunicorn says:

    The DBs (SEA) are playing much farther off the WRs (NYG) than I thought they were going to….. a ton of green grass to work with…

  98. cha says:

    Bobby get your hands up

  99. Kenny Sloth says:

    Seahawks twitter melting down bc of that punt from the 37 😅

    Somebody just called Pete Carroll Jason Garrett with Russell Wilson and I-

    • Volume12 says:

      lol good lord man

    • Tony says:

      Twitter in general is the biggest problem with the world today. I dont need every random persons instant thought or opinion. 99% is uninformed biased bs with little to no knowledge of any issue.

    • Big Mike says:

      Thing is, it would have worked out really well because we would have had good field position but we had to hold on the punt return and there goes the field position

  100. Rob Staton says:

    The Seahawks are abysmal on third downs on offense.

  101. Kenny Sloth says:


  102. AlaskaHawk says:

    I”m seeing quicker tackling in the secondary. Next step is teaching them to punch the ball out.

  103. Lewis says:

    Thank goodness the defense showed up. Hopefully the O mashed their way to the stadium at some point.

  104. Volume12 says:


  105. Rik says:

    This whole offensive game plan has been awful. Russ looks slow and confused back there.

  106. charlietheunicorn says:

    I still find it hard to believe, no secondary player (SS/FS of CB) has ever had more than 8 sacks in a season…..

  107. Robbie says:

    I’m pretty tired of David Moore as the punt returner

    • Tony says:

      Atleast hes sure handed.

    • Kenny Sloth says:

      Why! He’s dope. He gets upfield, is really shifty, doesnt put the ball on the ground. I imagine we were expecting to use (God I cant remember the name of that 4.3 runner we picked up at WR) back there.

      • Kenny Sloth says:


      • Hawkdawg says:

        The trouble is that he does NOT get upfield. Way too much hesitation. Once on the move, he is good and shifty. But he takes too long to get going. Especially on kick-off returns, which is why they pulled him last week and put in Reed.

    • cha says:

      Agree. The tentativeness is frustrating. One cut and go David!

      I think he’s only doing it today because Reed is starting at CB.

  108. cha says:

    Lockett in the game. Whew

    Also looks like Dunlap is on a pitch count. Not playing every down.

  109. Rik says:

    Wilson is playing some hot garbage today.

  110. Gary says:

    Fall on the ball Russ!

  111. Rob Staton says:

    I know we’re crap on third down but we don’t need to start fumbling or botching snaps.

  112. Rowdy says:

    Remember mvp russ? He’s been d jones ever sense

  113. Matt says:

    Russell is broken. Man…he’s been a legitimately meh QB since week 7. This is not good.

  114. Big Mike says:

    Once again the seahawks play down to the level of their competition. Just got a text from my wife who is not here at home and it syud ugly. She knows nothing about football and even she conceived this is ugly. I am so tired of this team never playing good football when the opportunity presents itself

  115. James Cr. says:

    Our offense looks like crap. Do we not have any ideas?

  116. AlaskaHawk says:

    Is it too early to say the defense is playing better than the offense today? Glad Seahawks dodged the injury bullet with Lockett, that would have sucked.

    I thought they used Reed last week for returns? I like him better than Moore.

  117. Tony says:

    Freebie for giants. Nice.

  118. Volume12 says:

    No catch. Good challenge

  119. Big Mike says:

    Russell Wilson is shell shocked

  120. Tony says:

    Well thats an easy challenge. Shame we gotta waste one there.

  121. Sea Mode says:

    Ok, we’re gonna win that challenge, but really worth it for a 6 yd gain on 1st down…?

  122. pdway says:

    what is going on w russell?

  123. cha says:

    Carson 6 carries for 42 yards for a 7.0 /carry against the #5 ranked rushing D.

    Nice to have him back.

  124. charlietheunicorn says:

    Good thing the Giants offensive play calling has been kind of garbage in this second quarter

  125. charlietheunicorn says:


  126. Gary says:

    This is where real teams close out the half with an actual drive.

  127. Kenny Sloth says:

    C’mon now Seahawks get me lit daddy Metcalf

  128. charlietheunicorn says:

    6 man box, not rushing….. : /

  129. Big Mike says:

    Mike Iupati having a shit day

  130. Rob Staton says:

    This offense. My word.

    No imagination. No tempo. Very little execution. Quarterback completely off his game.

  131. pdway says:

    cant remember russell looking this bad.

    indecisive. inaccurate. dont know what to say really.

  132. Kenny Sloth says:

    Wilson looks…. Not Good.

  133. Leonardo says:

    Maybe he’s shell-shocked from all those picks but it’s like Russ doesn’t trust his eyes anymore, really anxiety-inducing to watch

  134. Sea Mode says:

    Throw the ball, Russ.

  135. charlietheunicorn says:

    Giants need to go hard play action on second down

  136. KennyBadger says:

    Rattled Russ. Commit to Carson in the second half.

  137. James Cr. says:

    I would go hurry up 2nd half.

  138. Big Mike says:

    This team has no shot at a Super Bowl none zero zilch zip nada

  139. Matt says:

    Probably gonna end up 9-3 after today and just feel like the season is already over. Just a weird year. Russell having a miserable season after an incredible 4-5 week run. Amazing how far he has fallen.

  140. gary says:

    Imagine if you’d paid $300 bucks for a ticket to watch this garbage.

  141. Volume12 says:

    That is some kind of play from Prez

  142. Volume12 says:


  143. charlietheunicorn says:

    Holy F***

  144. BobbyK says:

    Russ isn’t cooking anything anymore.

  145. Rob Staton says:

    How did Deejay Dallas not score there???

  146. Rokas says:

    DJ Dallas. Geez.

  147. charlietheunicorn says:

    DJ Reed 😀

  148. Sea Mode says:

    How did DJ Dallas let that squirt away. It was right in the bread basket!

  149. Big Mike says:

    Is that DJ Dallas that cost us 5 points by not being able to just fall on the football?

  150. Bmseattle says:

    Gift wrapped for him.

  151. KennyBadger says:

    Nyan Real.

  152. Kenny Sloth says:

    Rookie stuff from Dallas and Hart. You expect it

  153. Dand393 says:

    How do you make such a mess out of a good play

  154. pdway says:

    Reed gonna break one eventually. he motors.

  155. Gary says:

    Geno Smith anyone?

  156. Matt says:

    Russell is broken. Seriously…there has to be something wrong with him.

  157. Leonardo says:

    That was the first half of football in Russell Wilson’s career.

  158. Sea Mode says:

    What a waste…

  159. Henry Taylor says:

    5-0 at halftime, who had that?

  160. Leonardo says:

    *Worst not first haha, damn autocorrect

  161. KennyBadger says:

    So Russ needs to be more accurate on his throwaways.

  162. CaptainJack says:

    The defense and offense have completely switched roles. Jamal Adams and Jordyn Brooks both look fantastic. Russ looks concussed at best.

  163. Big Mike says:

    This team’s offense is completely broken

  164. Rik says:

    Man, talk about ending the half with a thud.

  165. TheOtherJordan says:

    Easiest TD you’ll ever score in the League and he drops it.

  166. Pran says:

    Shout out to Bevell for 1st win as a HC. Hope he learned some from Pete.

  167. charlietheunicorn says:

    Game has felt like watching a controlled crash

  168. Mick says:

    God, how do we break Ramsey and Donald, Sherman and Bosa, Packers and Chiefs, if we can’t score a td in two quarters with Giants? At least the D holds.

  169. Kenny Sloth says:

    Russ 12/20 ~100 yards 5ypa and a fumble

    Not the worst but we’ve seen what he can do. What a disappointment

  170. Big Mike says:

    It must be the rain that’s causing the problems for Wilson
    Oh wait 🙁

  171. Tony says:

    Im really surprised so many arent used to these games. The hawks/rw do this 4 or 5 times a year. The offense takes 2-3 qtrs to show up. Then turn it on late. Is it annoying? Yes. By were up 5-0 at half time. Not down 17-3, this isnt a precursor to anything in playoffs or what this team will look like in a month. Just get wins. Get division and high seed. Rw is still great, he just goes thru these funks every year. Lets not read into every play and try to predict future outcomes.

    Playoffs are about hot teams. Just be set up by then.

    • Kenny Sloth says:

      I just be hoping for magic every time this team takes the field because we’ve seen what theyre capable of.

      • Tony says:

        Me too. But this is the same thing we see every year. We win ugly a ton. But hardly ever collapse and go belly up.

        Get to the dance. Hope the magic shows there. For god sakes, crippled manning won a sb, flacco won a sb. Crazy stuff happens there

        • Rob Staton says:

          Get to the dance. Hope the magic shows there. For god sakes, crippled manning won a sb, flacco won a sb. Crazy stuff happens there

          How many years do we have to say this though?

          And how many times over the last few years has the ‘crazy stuff’ been a massive half-time deficit and a failed attempt at a second half comeback.

          I want to see clean football for once against weaker opponents and comfortable wins.

          • TomLPDX says:

            Not tonight unfortunately. All I wanted was an easy win…never happens with the Hawks…

          • Tony says:

            I can only watch the games. I have no control over the handlings. I would love to have a dominant team or a clean on all 3 phases team. But in reality getting to the dance and winning there is always the plan.

            The fact we are, whether its easy or not, a perenial playoff team. That is something. Do i want more? Hell yeah. But in reality this is who we are. I just refuse to throw in the towel and say its over and we dont have a chance.

    • AlaskaHawk says:

      The Seahawks need to fall behind so they can have another 4th quarter come from behind win. It’s so much more exciting then. I mean they are trying to keep the score close.

    • Big Mike says:

      Of course hope you are right but I don’t see it.

      • Tony says:

        I take complete 1st half with blah feelings. Cause ive seen rw do impossible things. Its much better staying calm, until the 4th. And id be freaking if we were 6-5 vs 8-3. But i hope we win these few games vs bottom teams.

    • Matt says:

      Appreciate the optimism but this team has been underwhelming all year and is fueled exclusively by a terrible schedule and some lucky wins. I have no idea what you’ve seen this year that leads you to believe this team has any shot in the playoffs. RW has been average to bad since the Bye. The Defense has looked good twice – against the 2 worst offenses in the league. When we play good teams, we have looked clearly inferior (Rams, Bills).

      I don’t know…I have no hope, but I do hope I’m wrong. I’ve yet to watch a single game this year and think, “this team has a chance to win it all.”

      • Tony says:

        Ive yet to see a full team win. When all 3 phases show up. Thats it really. I see flashes every game all around. But thats the key, we are 8-3 and havent played great football all around.

        I wouldnt say this team should be in SB contender talk. But all that noise is just talk. Wake me for playoffs. And hopefully we show up better there. Thats all that matters.

  172. cha says:

    Defense pitching a shutout. Really only the one good drive that ended with an INT.

    Special teams is special.

    Offense not even batting their weight.

    • Tony says:

      Championship teams pick each other up when one unit is struggling.

      Im going full silver lining today lol.

  173. James P Kupihea says:

    How do you miss three face masks (AT THE POINT OF ACTION)

  174. Big Mike says:

    Remember when this offense was dropping well over 30 on a Bill Bellachick defense? That seems so long ago…

  175. cha says:

    Great run for Carson and you see him protect the ball as he enters traffic.

  176. Rokas says:

    Looks like Lockett cheated on that concussion check

  177. Big Mike says:

    Utterly and completely broken

  178. Rob Staton says:

    This offense is completely broken.

    • Trevor says:

      The Cards showed how to beat Russ in game #1 in the second half and now all teams are doing it and the Hawks can’t figure it out.

  179. pdway says:

    not only does russell look bad, the whole offensive scheme looks stale.

  180. Mick says:

    This one’s on Schotty…

  181. Big Mike says:

    Very possible this team loses its last 3 games of the regular season

  182. Trevor says:

    My biggest concern heading down the stretch is Russ not the Defense, I would never have dreamed that was possible, he has been brutal for a month and half now,

  183. Rob Staton says:

    Meanwhile the Rams are spanking the Cardinals with a heady mix of physical, productive running and complementary passing.

  184. John says:

    Is it a coincidence that the offense sucks playing against a good defense and the Defense is playing great against a bad offense.

  185. Big Mike says:

    Seattle is in extreme danger of losing this football game

  186. KennyBadger says:

    Stink comes by it honestly.

  187. Rob Staton says:

    Defense still pants

  188. Big Mike says:


  189. Hawkdawg says:

    Embarrassing defense. The bed-sh*tting has now spread to the D.

  190. Rob Staton says:

    The defense is playing Colt McCoy.

    The Giants are going to try and run.

    It took three plays to score on an 80-yard drive.

  191. Tony says:

    Mid 3rd qtr, down 3.

    Those crying its over, maybe we try playing another 20mins. See what happens.

    • Big Mike says:

      How about we come out and put away an inferior team from the beginning? How about were playing a team with Colt mccoy at quarterback?

  192. Henry Taylor says:

    Ok time to show up offense, I’m starting to get concerned.

  193. Pran says:

    Giants are now challenging Hawks to score 3 points.. times have changed.

  194. John says:

    Why does Tyler Lockett always look some clumsy when changing direction? Seattle needs a receiver that can make plays after the catch.

  195. James Cr. says:

    Can anyone explain to me why we aren’t going hurry up an offense?

  196. Big Mike says:

    Completely and utterly broken

  197. icb12 says:

    Wtf is that 4th down call?

    Good grief. It’s 6 “!!!!!

  198. Rob Staton says:

    Seahawks getting thoroughly out-coached yet again.

  199. KennyBadger says:

    Job posting:

    Critical Down Play Consultant.
    Seattle, WA.

  200. WallaSean says:

    Why do we not want to run the damn ball, way too cute with the playcalling on O today. Complete waste of a fine effort on D. The offense is wearing OUR defense down. WTF

  201. Rob Staton says:

    Now they’re getting out-coached and having their arses kicked.

  202. Big Mike says:

    Defence now falling apart as well.
    Hey guys they have Colt mccoy quarterback there going to run the football your getting beat by a team that you know what is coming

  203. Sea Mode says:

    This is sad.

  204. Mick says:

    I don’t blame the D at all for starting to crash, they held their ground and gave Wilson enough chances, now of course confidence is long gone.

  205. Bmseattle says:

    I’m waiting until Tony tells us when we can start worrying.

  206. Rob Staton says:

    This is pathetic

  207. James Cr. says:

    Losing at home to Colt McCoy? Season over.

  208. Rob Staton says:

    I cannot believe how much shit I get for critiquing this team

  209. Sea Mode says:

    Well, there’s a little break, at least…

    Let’s get out there with some urgency. I’m so tired of Russ snapping the ball with 00 on the play clock every single time.

  210. Bmseattle says:

    I’d just start assuming they are being ironic.

  211. Mick says:

    Reality check time, too much talking about MVP and Super Bowl without enough to back it up.

  212. Gary says:

    It’s 4th down and 1 on a game-changing possession where you need to possess the ball and move the chains and answer their score, you profess to want a tough, smash-mouth identity, you have a healthy Chris Carson in your backfield, and you run a chickenshit finesse play to give the ball back to the Giants. Then they proceed to do to you exactly what you were too scared to do when you refused to run between the tackles. They deserved that result.

  213. Dinosaw says:

    The New York Giants….
    Colt mMcCoy,….
    At home…..

  214. Rowdy says:

    Wilson needs to be benched

  215. Trevor says:

    That sack is 100% on Russ.

  216. Bmseattle says:

    “Look at the coverage!”…
    As Lockett is wide open downfield.

  217. Pran says:

    I just can’t believe this from coaches.

    You had the chance to run in 1st half, score points and control game… no..we pass fail.
    Now fall behind and have to score in a hurry..no run fail.

  218. 12th chuck says:

    losing all aspects, and outcoached. this is the time of the year when your supposed to be playing your best

  219. David Ashton says:

    Cant believe what Im watching. Looks like a pub team

  220. Leonardo says:

    All the progress that Russ made in the last few years with Schotty has regressed, he’s back to peeling out of the back of the pocket, throwing off his back foot, hesitating. Maybe we need Schotty back on the sideline, not like he’s getting much insight from the booth anymore.

  221. Ian says:

    Fire Pete. This is unacceptable

  222. Dm594 says:

    Trade Russ plus 1 or 2 firsts to the first team overall and draft Lawrence. Wilson doesn’t have it anymore. It’s not in his heart. His family is first. Football is last on his list of priorities. Dudes washed up big time.

  223. Tony says:

    Times ticking hawks. Better do something quick.

  224. Bmseattle says:

    Jets would never, ever make that trade.

  225. CaptainJack says:

    Wow, after the beginning of this season, when the games were frustrating but thrilling, the games are now extraordinarily uninspiring and honestly boring.

    • CaptainJack says:

      Russ is making the wide receiver who the broncos had to trot out against the saints at QB look like a mix of Joe Montana and Dan Marino.

  226. Henry Taylor says:

    Yep, this ain’t our day.

  227. Tony says:

    Upset sunday hit us.

  228. TomLPDX says:

    I can’t watch this anymore…

  229. Sea Mode says:


  230. Rokas says:

    This is already sardonic. Not even mad.

  231. Tony says:

    We were due for it tho.

  232. Scot04 says:

    Seahawks offense definitely forgot to show up today

  233. Rowdy says:

    Big balls Pete should prove it by sending Wilson to the locker room

  234. Gary says:

    Good waste of a timeout. PLEASE FIRE PETE.

  235. Pran says:

    Coaches and Russ has no clue……

  236. Tony says:

    Man i hope we show up here on out and the offense comes back. Schotty and RW need to fix this. Washington pass rush is going to be a fun day.

  237. Sea Mode says:

    A timeout on a FG attempt???

  238. Gary says:

    Jets would be laughing all the way to the draft if we lose out.

  239. Matt says:

    Dream attic changes need to be made.

  240. TomLPDX says:

    Normally, 2 touchdowns down, 10 minutes to play…no problem, right. I’ll be surprised if they gain 10 yards total in the next 10 minutes

  241. Bmseattle says:

    We probably had 12 men on the field.

  242. Sea Mode says:

    Can we pls throw to DK?!

  243. Tony says:

    Rw is afraid to throw. So hesitant. Hes confused or thinking too much.

  244. charlietheunicorn says:

    Running out of RTs : /

  245. Big Mike says:

    Never thought I would say these words
    God we miss Brandon Shell

  246. Sea Mode says:

    Don’t give me hope…

  247. charlietheunicorn says:

    Someone earlier said 4th quarter 1 score game….. here you go

  248. Tony says:

    Need to play perfect here on out. Slim margin for error.

  249. cha says:

    Jamarco Jones groin injury – out for the game.

  250. Robbie says:

    About damn time!

  251. Rokas says:

    Wheeler looks like an out of shape Tight end.

  252. Kenny Sloth says:

    Yeah Diggsy!!!

  253. Tony says:

    Brooks been solid today. I definitely see the potential. Hope he grows to a great player.

  254. Rob Staton says:

    Jamal Adams beat in coverage on third down.

  255. Big Mike says:

    Can’t afford to fail on too many more 3rd and longs

  256. Tony says:

    Oh man. D has to make a stop soon.

  257. Big Mike says:

    Must get a stop here in order to win the game

  258. Bmseattle says:

    Colt Mccoy…the ultimate test

  259. Pran says:

    Worst 3rd down offense and defense.. how do you expect to win ?

  260. Tony says:

    This is game here. Unless you like potential hail mary prayers.

  261. charlietheunicorn says:

    Time to win the game.

  262. Mick says:

    If they win this, it’s just crazy.

  263. Big Mike says:

    PLEASE give Chad Wheeler help

  264. AlaskaHawk says:

    Time for Russell Wilson’s specialty – the 4th quarter comeback.

  265. Sea Mode says:

    Step it up, Russ.

  266. Bmseattle says:

    Timeout there?

  267. Rowdy says:

    Best pass russ threw all game

  268. Big Mike says:

    Staring down his receiver and a terrible choice very lucky

  269. Sea Mode says:


  270. Rowdy says:

    Russ can’t blame anyone but himself, he’s had plenty of time all game

    • Rokas says:

      Not sure if we can make that judgement without watching all 22. Did not seem that WRs were open all day.
      But his inability to get rid of the ball is pathologic.

    • Sea Mode says:

      Defense stepped up except for a couple brain farts in run defense. Offense was lethargic. Abandoned the run (which was working on the perimeter) and they teed off their pass rush against our 4th-string RT.

  271. Big Mike says:

    Did not deserve to win this football game anyway. And absolutely miserable performance

  272. charlietheunicorn says:

    Back up (RT) and Back up LG in game at the end….. yikes

  273. Mick says:

    It would have been unfair to hide this awful game under a lucky win again. We’ve been winning a lot of lucky games and the huge problems that we have don’t get properly exposed. Not that anyone in the coaching staff is doing anything about them.

  274. Jordan E says:

    Russ is like overrated now. Wow. Loss to NYG team without Daniel Jones

  275. Big Mike says:

    Make sure you write only positive things this week Rob. We wouldn’t want to upset anybody by saying the team played poorly. Maybe you talk about Pete’s shoes.

  276. Matt says:

    This team will lose 3 of the next 4. What a horrifically awful showing. This thing is about to go off the rails.

  277. Tony says:

    Own it russ and schotty. This is on you and the offense. 8-4 now. Gotta win out for division.

    • Matt says:

      The whole team was bad. Defense shouldn’t get any props in this one.

      • Tony says:

        Defense allowed 2 bad drives. Held during the puntfest the offense put forth.

      • pdway says:

        D was fine. Allowed one drive all day, and that basically all on one long run.

        The other TD was after we f’d up the 4th down play, an the FG was when they held the Giants to a 3 and out after the INT.

        It’s not the world’s biggest accomplishmnet, the Giants ain’t the Chiefs – but this loss is fully on the offense not being good enough.

        • Matt says:

          Didn’t say the defense lost the game. Offense clearly did. Commenting that the defense wasn’t that good.

  278. Pran says:

    I hate Pete’s strategy to the core.. it worked when you had legendary defense to keep offense in game. You have worst defense in entire league and steadily regressing offense..this is the ultra conservative shitty game you call. Suck it up and quit.

    Flush the game and season down the toilet and plan for next season with everyone fired.

  279. Rokas says:

    It’s on DJ Dallas, he corrals the ball, and it’s overtime!:))

  280. pdway says:

    defense did enough today. russell played like a bottom half of the league QB today – there’s no other way to say it. indecisive all day. not as good w his feet as we’re used to.

    today was the day my expectations for this team finally crashed. still thought we had a hope of coming out of the NFC.

    a really poor performance by the offense and our QB, and if those two things aren’t there – we’re just an average team.

  281. Tony says:

    Backup qbs own pete. Lol. Its the mullens, the mccoys, the mannions that always upset us.

  282. Leonardo says:

    Compare that final drive to our drive against Minnesota a few months ago, Russ has just completely lost the plot. On those last two plays he left Lockett out to dry in double coverage while Swain and Dissly were running free. Then he fled a clean pocket, ran 15 yards back, and chucked a moon ball. The scary thing is his second half decline is becoming a trend now, we saw it last year too.

    • 12th chuck says:

      I seen that as well. Doug Baldwin left because in part for same reasons .leaving guys wide open alot.