CFB week 14: Rivalry weekend provides entertainment

This was a bad look for Xavier McKinney

If you missed yesterday’s piece on Hunter Bryant check it out here.

The Iron Bowl is rarely dull and Alabama and Auburn played out a 48-45 classic today. It’s unfortunate the end came down to a missed kick and an illegal substitution to decide it. The game, which swung back and forth throughout, deserved a better finish. It’s strange that Alabama won’t be in the playoffs too. This feels like a three-horse race. LSU, Ohio State and Clemson are the challengers. One other team will be in the playoffs simply to make up the numbers.

Auburn did very little on defense. They struggled to contain Alabama’s talented receivers and Najee Harris had one of his best games. Yet Derrick Brown still looked like the best defender on the field. He consistently created pressure, provided none-stop effort to chase down ball carriers and looked like a clear top-10 talent.

His physicality is incredible. Very few defensive tackles are capable of dominating the POA and providing stoutness and toughness while also being that quick athlete able to penetrate and create pressure. Brown was a highly-touted recruit, he’s deadly serious and all-football. He could’ve declared a year ago and been a high pick. He returned this year, won the Iron Bowl and was the defensive player of the game.

Aside from him most of the other draft highlights came from Alabama’s offense.

Jaylen Waddle would’ve been the MVP had Alabama won through. He had four total touchdowns including a brilliant 98 yard kick return and a wonderfully high-pointed reception in the end zone. Waddle will almost certainly be a high pick in 2021 with his range, speed and ability to make plays in a variety of ways.

Henry Ruggs was healthy again and it showed with six catches for 99 yards and a touchdown. His speed and dynamism are clear. His ability to provide a deep threat opened up multiple back-shoulder opportunities for backup QB Mac Jones. He reportedly runs in the 4.2’s. With his catching technique, electric speed and production — it’s impossible to imagine him not being a high pick.

DeVonta Smith had another big game with five catches for 80 yards. He remains incredibly underrated. He had a big reception on a key third down in the third quarter — running a great crossing route to create easy separation.

Jerry Jeudy had another quiet game with five catches for 26 yards. Sometimes there’s just too many mouths to feed in this offense. Jeudy is very talented. Yet he’s had some rough games in 2019. In this one he had a bad drop in the third quarter. He’s had too many concentration drops this season and it’s something to consider.

Najee Harris was his usual hurdling self with 146 yards on 27 carries and a touchdown. He also had 26 yards on four catches. Harris is extremely talented. He has everything. You just want to see some consistency in terms of the physicality. Today was his best effort. He was smashing into defenders, stiff-arming one literally out of the game with a devastating forearm blow. When he plays like this he looks like a guy you can build around. There’s just something that gives you pause for thought with Harris. He’ll go relatively early in the draft (first three rounds) and he can be a lead-back. If he can find a level of consistency he could be really good. There are very few limitations.

I’m struggling to buy into the early round talk for Alabama’s Xavier McKinney. He got absolutely battered trying to defend a fourth quarter TD (see the image at the top of the piece). He struggles to contain against the run and he’s at his best simply blitzing into the backfield. He was fortunate to be credited with a forced fumble today on what was essentially a lucky play on a whiffed tackle.

— Not a lot went right for Michigan in another chastening defeat to rival Ohio State (56-27) yet Cesar Ruiz was a highlight. The more I’ve watched of him, the better he looks. He was controlling blocks all afternoon, showed great feet to pull to the right to help out against Chase Young and absolutely looks the part of a top pro-center. He opened up a huge lane for Hassan Haskins on a 33 yard run. I paired him with the Seahawks in my updated mock this week but I’m starting to wonder if they’d be lucky to have a shot at Ruiz. He’s the best center in this draft and looks like a first round talent. He did have one wayward snap which led to a fumble by the QB — but really Shea Patterson should’ve still handled it.

J.K. Dobbins had a huge day for Ohio State and equally deserves a lot more early-round talk than he’s getting. He’s highly explosive, fast, patient to allow runs to develop and he’s the type of runner the league favours these days.

His second touchdown was a great example of his athleticism and patience. He took the hand-off in the gun and assessed the blocking. No gaps were created up the middle so he bounced the play outside with fluidity and no wasted motion. As soon as the cut-back lane opened up he stuck his foot in the ground and exploded into the end zone.

On the first play of the third quarter he found the edge and sprinted away from numerous defenders for a huge gain. His fourth touchdown was very similar. If he gets to the edge in space he’s incredibly difficult to stop. On one huge play he was a little bit fortunate to fumble the ball, have it bounce right back into his hands and basically allow him to continue running in stride.

He finished with 211 yards on 31 carries and four touchdowns, plus 49 receiving yards on two catches. He’s not a physical, pounding runner who will get the tough yards and grind down an opponent. For a creative offense willing to scheme plays to put him in a position to get the ball in space — he can be a massive weapon as a receiver and runner.

Chase Young was kept relatively quiet with no sacks and only two QB hurries. I want to refer back to my post last week. Destroying Will Fries at Penn State is fair enough. He’s not going to be facing many players like Will Fries in the NFL though.

— D’Andre Swift was injured in a 52-7 win against Georgia Tech. He seemed concerned and emotional on the sideline, with team mates saying prayers with him. Yet after the game Kirby Smart said it was a mere shoulder contusion and that he should be fine. Hopefully that is the case. Swift had 73 yards on 10 carries in the game. He also fumbled twice. Georgia’s two book-end tackles are just incredible. Everyone talks up Andrew Thomas and rightly so. It’s time more people talked up Isaiah Wilson. For me he’s a top-15 talent. He does everything well and was terrific again in this game as both a pass and run blocker.

— Penn State are nowhere near TCU’s level when it comes to a bad passing game. Jalen Reagor has been dealing with a horrendous QB situation for weeks — hammering his potential to put up big yardage and really bolster his draft stock. K.J. Hamler still doesn’t get much help from Penn State. He was under-thrown on a potential big play in a mediocre 27-6 win over Rutgers. The other receivers on the team struggle to make plays. Hamler finished with only five catches for 22 yards and one run on an end-around for six yards today. He did have a 34 yard kick return and a 24 yard punt return. Yetur Gross-Matos didn’t play in the game and was stood on the sidelines with his arm in a sling.

— Wisconsin hammered Minnesota 38-17 to earn the opportunity to lose to Ohio State in the BIG-10 title game next week. Jonathan Taylor had 76 yards on 18 carries and two rushing touchdowns. Jake Ferguson had yet another quiet game with only one catch for 20 yards. For Minnesota, Reshad Bateman was again excellent with 147 receiving yards on six catches and a touchdown. He looks the part of a high pick in 2021. Tyler Johnson had eight catches for 89 yards and a score.

— It’s going to be really hard to project Justin Herbert to the next level. The Oregon offense doesn’t do him any favours. He’s a big-armed, improvising force who can make improbable throws and the modern NFL will love that. Yet Oregon plays everything so conservatively. The offense doesn’t suit him and isn’t allowing him to flourish. At the same time — an ultra-conservative offense should enable a QB to master things fairly comfortably. Has he ever reached a high level? Or at least the level you’d expect from a top-10 pick? Oregon were largely unimpressive in a 24-10 win against Oregon State that was close until the end. Herbert finished 18/30 for 174 yards and a touchdown. It’ll only take one team to buy into the size, arm and playmaking for him to go early. Yet his stock-range is really difficult to gauge.

— Clemson’s Isaiah Simmons had 10 tackles, a sack and two TFL’s in a 38-3 win against South Carolina. Tee Higgins had two touchdowns to go with three catches for 101 yards. Travis Etienne also had two touchdowns, 51 rushing yards on 15 carries and 37 yards on three receptions. He also had 50 yards on two kick returns.

— Another quarterback who will be difficult to project is Jordan Love. He similarly has the arm, the improv skills and the size. Going into today’s game against Nevada he’d thrown more picks than touchdowns though (14/15). In a 38-25 win he threw three touchdowns and one pick to get back into the black (172 passing yards). The best thing for his stock might be to grad-transfer to a team like Oklahoma. If that’s not an option and he turns pro, it’ll be interesting to see if teams buy into the upside after a poor final year in college (just as Buffalo and others did with Josh Allen at Wyoming).

— Joe Burrow continued his march to the Heisman and the #1 pick in the draft in a 50-7 win against Texas A&M. He finished 23/32 passing for 352 yards and three touchdowns. Burrow has been the real deal this season and kudos to him for taking a big step forward and elevating LSU. Clyde Edwards-Helaire had 87 yards on 18 carries and a touchdown while adding 49 receiving yards on four catches. Grant Delpit had a straight forward interception in the game.

— Utah clobbered Colorado 45-15 to stay in playoff contention. Laviska Shenault had 43 receiving yards on four catches plus an extra 25 yards as a runner. Keep an eye on Nate Landman the linebacker who had 10 tackles and a TFL in the game. He’s extremely talented and flying under the radar.

— Ceedee Lamb mysteriously took himself out of the Baylor game recently and it seems to have impacted his season. Against Oklahoma State he had only four catches for 36 yards and a further eight yards on two runs. He’s lost some momentum. Oklahoma won 34-16 and will meet Baylor again in the Big-12 Championship game.

— There are serious questions about the athletic potential of Jon Greenard at Florida and that will significantly impact his stock. He has produced at a high level this season though. Against Florida State he had three sacks in a 40-17 win.

— Arizona State has two very intriguing skill players. In a 24-14 win against Arizona, Eno Benjamin ran for 168 yards on 34 carries and scored twice. He also had three catches for 14 yards. Brandon Aiyuk had five receptions for 67 yards and ran once for eight yards. Both players are worth monitoring during the draft season.

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412 Comments

  1. Paul Cook

    Nice write up for this exciting weekend to end college football’s regular season. With one caveat…

    “It’s unfortunate the end came down to a missed kick and an illegal substitution to decide it.”

    Maybe for you, but not for me. LOL Just to see the look on Nick Saban’s face when those two things happened made my Thanksgiving weekend. There is a God.

  2. 12thMan4Life

    What do you think of LSU LG Adrian Magee? He’s been dominating tonight’s game vs. Texas A&M. He’s a senior this year and his physical profile seems to fit Solari’s powerful guard mold – 6’3” 340lbs. Have you done any scouting of him in the LSU games you’ve watched?

    • Rob Staton

      I haven’t — but I’ll check him out prior to the Senior Bowl if he’s invited.

  3. Kingdome1976

    I actually think Tyler Johnson is a bit overrated in terms of being a huge factor at the next level. Also I think Najee Harris ever since I’ve been watching him will be one of the steals of the draft if he goes later than the mid-second round.

  4. Paul Cook

    If Tua had played that game, Alabama would have won in all probability. As Rob has oftentimes mentioned, they had an embarrassment of riches in targets to throw to.

  5. Paul Cook

    Hey Rob, are Chase Young and Derrick Brown the only sure fire elite DL prospects in the 2020 draft now? If not, who are the others? I know you may have answered this before, but asking again.

    • Rob Staton

      Yes those two plus Javon Kinlaw and Raekwon Davis.

      • Paul Cook

        Thanks.

  6. charlietheunicorn

    If Ruiz is indeed the best interior OL prospect or at least top C prospect, he should go top 25 picks. He has many traits that the NFL would love to have as a foundation piece on the OL. I’m not sure he will make it past pick #32… and with several teams with multiple picks in the first round, he might get snapped up before Seattle can even make a selection.

    It would be a very “unsexy” pick, but would probably be one of the better 1st round picks they have had in a very long time. Plenty of upside and shoring up the interior of the OL long-term.

    I could easily see an OL of Haynes, Jones and Ruiz being a strength for Seattle in the next 3 years. Brown and a resigned Ifedi anchoring the LT/RT could lead to really great things. Somehow hold onto Pocic and Fant…. now you have nice depth and experience throughout the OL group.

  7. CaptainJack

    Looks like SEC title is LSU vs Georgia, Pac is Utah vs Oregon. If LSU beats Georgia handing them their second loss, and Utah beats oregon and only has one loss (to 8-4 USC), do you think Utah could sneak into the playoff? Or would a one less Oklahoma team get in instead?

  8. Paul Cook

    No doubt, LSU, Ohio State, and Clemson tower over everybody else. Alabama is perhaps right with them talent wise, but (boo-hoo) they came up short. It’s all about the 4th spot now.

    • cha

      What an embarrassment of riches they have at WR.

      • Paul Cook

        It’s really amazing. I’m trying to come up with an equivalent. Haven’t yet.

  9. Paul Cook

    An 8 team playoff can’t come soon enough. College football is the only sport where if you win your conference you’re not automatically in the playoff. That’s effing ridiculous. The idea that men sitting in a room decide if you’re in the CFP playoff when you’ve won a power 5 conference? Insane. Totally insane.

    • Aaron

      I totally agree with an 8 team playoff. Have the winner of each of the power five conferences then the next best three from the power five or the rare instance that a non power five is so good. Simple as that. In the NFL if you win your division you’re in, why not the same in CFB?

      • Volume12

        Because the talent gap in the NFL is razor thin. Not so in CFB.

        As fun as it would be to see a UCF in the CFB playoff, those 7 and 8 seeds aren’t gonna beat an ’08 USC team for example.

        • icb12

          Why not?

          I mean, hell. The 08 Trojans lost to the beavers in Corvallis.

    • Awsi Dooger

      8 teams would be asinine in college football. How are you going to leave Alabama out? Is anyone seriously going to argue that Alabama isn’t one of the 8 best teams? Check any set of power ratings and see where they stand, even after the loss to Auburn.

      But they don’t deserve to be in, after losing their two showdown games. And there have been numerous other examples. Michigan would have been within 8 teams last season despite likewise failing in the meaningful contests.

      8 would not allow deserved teams in. It would create an unnecessary larger window that trivialized the regular season and provided mulligans to certain teams while setting up blowouts in other games. As Rob mentioned, minus Alabama the difficulty is identifying the fourth team. Anyone who has ever studied the power ratings in college football knows how unbalanced it gets after a handful of teams, completely unlike the bunched NFL.

      • Paul Cook

        You’re not paying attention. Alabama would still have a chance to make the playoff, as would any runner-up from a power 5 conference if they were selected by the committee as one of the 2-3 wild card teams. If any runner-up team doesn’t make it in, is not selected by the committee, well the boo-hoo. If they wanted to be assured of getting in, they had a chance to by winning their conference.

  10. Volume12

    Lol. The 2021 TE class is gonna be such a loaded position group.

    Penn St TE Pat Frieirmuth and ND TE Cole Kmet returning to school.

  11. Volume12

    Outside of the 1st two rounds, an UDFA and probably a random day 3 pick, Seattle’s draft class is gonna be primarily made up of ST’ers. Or their rookies should be filling/helping out that unit. That’s good coaching and development.

    So, who are some CFB prospects that can be slotted in on teams or who are some standout teams guys?

    • Eli

      Louisiana Tech CB Amik Robertson. Biggest playmaker in CFB that no one talks about. Think he’ll be a stud special teamer and nickel back at the next level.

      • Volume12

        Jeezuz. 21 passes defended (16 PBU & 5 INTs)?!?

        • charlietheunicorn

          Did you see he has had 5, 4, 5 INTS in 3 years??
          He is 5’9″ 185 pounds, so he is pretty small. What kind of speed does he have? He should be a burner (and have nice agility) being that light!

          • Eli

            Not sure on his speed, but I expect his agility and vertical will test well. Dude also hits like a sledge hammer:

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ty9LEUx1BJ8

            • JimQ

              Currently, after 12 games; Both of these players are under the radar and their stats aren’t yet being acknowledged or recognized.

              Luqman Barcoo from SDSU is #1 in passes defended with 24-total PD’s, including 8-INT
              CB-Amik Roberson from La Tech is #2 in passes defended with 21, including 5-INT.

              CB(slot)-Amik Robertson, La. Tech(FCS), 5-9/183, projected 4.47/40, #2 in FCS passes defended. 2019: 12-games, 54-tkls, 38-solo, 7.0-TFL, 1.0-sack, 16-PBU, 5-INT, 1-QBH, 1-FF. Currently unranked @ drafttech.com

              CB-Luqman Barcoo, SDSU, 6-1/175, projected 4.51/40, #1 in FBS in passes defended.
              2019: 12-games, 8-INT, 16-PBU, 5-TFL, .5-sacks, Currently #202-overall @ draftteck.com

              Either CB could be a potential Seahawk target in the later rounds/UDFA area with Robertson limited to the slot & Barcoo needing to fill out his frame and adding muscle, so both would likely be developmental players for the future. Both would seem to have great ball skills.

    • charlietheunicorn

      OL (OG) could be a surprise that sticks in later rounds.
      They also like their developmental CBs, so maybe one gem slips into their hands as well.
      RB (or FB) could be a major contributor, no matter what round as well.

      But you are correct sir, the majority will be bottom of the roster guys or ST only players year #1.

    • DC

      Colorado LBs Davion Taylor (LB/S hybrid) & Nate Landman (jr) could garner some interest from the Hawks as teamers.
      Did Seattle attend any Buffs games this year?

      • Volume12

        Not sure on a game. They did have a couple scouts attend one of their practices though.

    • Sea Mode

      I actually added a tab to my scouting notes database this year: “ST studs”. Always compete here on SDB as well!

      So here are a couple names for ya:

      Florida WR Tyrie Cleveland

      Michigan LB Jordan Glasgow

  12. Awsi Dooger

    I posted last week on a Dolphins site that Justin Herbert would be better served in a specialty league that doesn’t allow passes behind the line of scrimmage, kind of like that basketball league that didn’t allow anyone taller than 6-4.

    Otherwise I have no idea what you do with him. There are so many Oregon play designs that don’t translate 1% to the NFL, and Herbert defaults to those plays in key situations.

  13. DC

    LOB Bowl today.

    Pretty cool to see Sherman and Thomas contributing on the 2 hottest teams in the league. I’m happy for them.

  14. Paul Cook

    Very interested in this Ravens/49ers game. It’s looking like Lamar Jackson is going to be the MVP if the Ravens keep winning. As Rob mentioned before, once the narrative momentum starts gaining steam and traction in matters like this, it starts taking on an aura of inevitability.

    I’m a Ravens and Lamar Jackson fan today.

  15. Kenny Sloth

    Balty v Santa Clara and Pitt v Cleveland some decent morning games 👌

  16. Volume12

    Cancel the game. Too much rain. Gotta think about the player safety (even though the player themselves don’t). If they won’t eho else will ya know?

    Stay woke.

  17. Volume12

    DEEBO!

    Love the aggressive call

  18. Volume12

    Think Indy needs some help at WR? Their 4 wideouts today wouldn’t even get a snap for ‘Bama.

    Zach Pascal
    Chester Rogers
    Marcus Johnson
    Ashton Dulin

    • Trevor

      That group of 4 Bama receivers is as good as a unit as most NFL foursomes.

  19. WALL UP

    Niners don’t have chance in stopping them.

    • DC

      Hopefully Lake finds himself an innovative OC to pair up with.

  20. cha

    Good grief, Earl. Nice “attempt” at a tackle.

  21. Paul Cook

    With it looking like the Dallas Cowboy and USC head coaching jobs opening up, the Urban Meyer rumor mill is going to be going crazy now.

    • Aaron

      Urban Meyer in the Pac-12 would be a huge boost for the conference. When USC and Oregon are elite, the conference is seen in a much better light nationally then when a UW or Utah are elite. It’s unfortunate that it’s that way, but it’s that way.

      • Paul Cook

        As a Husky fan, I don’t give a crap about USC or Oregon and how we’re better perceived nationally as a conference when they’re seen to be elite. What matters to me as a Husky fan is that…

        1) The PAC 12 champion gets an automatic berth in the CFP (coming eventually, hopefully soon)
        2) Our commissioner quits letting our games get scheduled in horrible time slots
        3) That we improve our officiating
        4) That we drive harder bargains with the networks and the NCAA
        5) A few other things

        Thank heaven that our commissioner at least ended our conference championship being played in Santa Clara. What a bust of an idea that was. It will now be played in the new stadium in Las Vegas and draw many more fans and interest.

        • charlietheunicorn

          They should only play 8 conference games, then schedule another cupcake, like “certain other power 5 conferences”. I didn’t even know about this until a few years back and it is complete garbage that schools are not even close to playing on the same schedule playing field.

        • Matt

          My rebuttal:

          1) You are only going to get that if USC is a contender. Otherwise the Pac 12 is on the outside looking in. I get the appeal of an 8 team playoff but it will be an absolute mess. 4 has it’s downfalls but it’s better than a watered down 8.
          2) Again, a better USC gets prime time games nationally. They will make the competitor in the North look that much better on paper, which helps tv.
          3) Officiating is a problem across the board. Doesn’t matter the conference. Heck, the NFL is atrocious too.
          4) You can only drive harder bargains when you have leverage. USC is a big leverage chip to have when they are doing well.

          Unfortunately, USC, at the moment, is the only Pac 12 program that can drive changes with their success. Every other program is regional, even UW and Oregon.

          • Paul Cook

            My rebuttal…

            1) Going to an 8 team playoff with all power 5 conference winners going to the CFP is already baked into the cake. It’s just how fast it’s going to happen. It’s been trending in that direction since the BCS. It’s not going to stop. Outside of the fact that it makes perfect sense, there’s just too much money to be made.

            2) Our commissioner just completely effed up all our deals with the networks and the NCAA. This is pretty common knowledge in hindsight. Case in point: UW game not being shown when it started because of a contract commitment with a network to get to the end of a truck racing event. LOL

            3) No, the PAC 12 is NOTORIOUS for poor officiating. Our standards are below other conferences. Why even last year we had the league guy butt in and overturn a replay call during a game. Ridiculous.

            4) The commissioner represents the whole PAC 12, not just USC. I will openly acknowledge USC’s more national legacy appeal, but the conference will do well when the whole conference is doing better.

      • John_s

        Correction it’s when USC is elite. No one gives two sh*ts nationally about Oregon being good

        • Matt

          Totally agree. You need USC to be elite/great. Oregon…they have some flash for 18 year old recruits but nationally speaking it’s just another Pac 12 Program.

          Everybody in the Pac 12 should want USC to be great. The conference is slowly sliding into oblivion and needs a national jolt. USC is the only school that has that power.

          **Yes, fellow UW fans – I love the Huskies but they will never have that type of pull unless they pull a Clemson and routinely make the Playoffs.

  22. WALL UP

    Ravens can’t stop the Niners either.

  23. Paul Cook

    Come on Ravens. Do the 12’s a solid today.

  24. Aaron

    THANK YOU RAVENS!!!

  25. SoCal12

    Thank you Llama man. This makes Monday a very interesting game.

  26. New Guy

    Totally looked like a typical Seahawks game….

    .

  27. Brazilian Hawk

    Big game tomorrow.

  28. Paul Cook

    Playing for the division lead and the #2 seed tomorrow night on MNF. Don’t think the players don;t know this. We just got some major hype for this game. It’s going to be fun, and the Clink will be rocking. What a year this is turning out to be.

  29. McZ

    Gardner’s back!

  30. taxspecialist

    Running through the playoff calculator if our only loss the rest of the way was to san fran in the final game of the year and if san fran lost to new orleans next week then Hawks win the division. So many playoff scenerio’s right now. Hope we just win out… will be at the game on Monday night.

  31. Sea Mode

    Not really a surprise, but I’ll take it.

    Tom Pelissero
    @TomPelissero
    2h

    A surprise: The #Vikings have ruled Adam Thielen (hamstring) OUT for Monday night at Seattle.

  32. vbullen65

    Hi Rob- I’m a big fan of the blog. A quick question, how many spots do you think the Seahawks could move up in the 1st round if they traded one of their 2nd round picks?

    • Rob Staton

      Maybe ten or so.

      • Matt

        This is actually the one year I don’t want to see them trade up at all. I don’t see anybody that really warrants that type of potential move.

        In fact, I’m actually ok with a slide trade back (for once) and go hard at R2 and R3.

  33. CHawk Talker Eric

    No idea if he’ll declare this year, but UCLA TE Devin Asiasi (rJR) is one to watch. Bigger than most TEs at 6’5″ 280lbs he moves well and has decent hands. He was one of the bright spots for UCLA at the Rose Bowl vs Cal last night (8 recs for 99 yards).

  34. Hawks4life

    Tom Brady is old and shows, it’s going to be interesting to see what happens after the seasons over

    • Paul Cook

      Yeah, he’s older and slower, no doubt. But the real problem is that their receivers are not getting separation, not getting open. He simply doesn’t have targets to throw to. He can still do that.

      • mishima

        Do what? Looks to me like Brady can’t make the throws he used to and is now blaming his receivers. Not a good look on the sidelines.

        • Kenny Sloth

          +1 look at the way he has to step into simple sideline throws.

          He looks as agile as he’s ever been, but that arm might be toast.

  35. charlietheunicorn

    Hum, Patriots looking bad.

    Excellent.

    • DC

      Bad? Nah. Beatable? Yes

      The AFC finally has a host of young QBs to challenge Brady for the right to represent. Jackson, Mahomes & Watson make an exciting trio. Sooner or later the guard is going to change.

  36. WALL UP

    I guess it’s not how you start but how you finish. Now, it’s finish time.

  37. RWIII

    Hey guys. Did yoy notice that Jacob Martin had a nice game against the Patriots. Martin had 1.5 sacks. Three tackles.

    • CHawk Talker Eric

      Yes I noticed. I’m thrilled we got Clowney but I wish they hadn’t traded Martin. He was one of the more promising situational players on the roster.

      • Sea Mode

        Much better fit for 3-4 though.

        • charlietheunicorn

          I’m glad he is getting a chance to shine. He is playing almost full time it looks like, unlike in Seattle where he was getting limited snaps. Ironically, it looks like they are trying to play Griffin in his old spot as a pass rusher. I would keep tabs on a guy of similar size and speed in the upcoming draft, because they love that explosive speed and ability to close of the QB… even if the guy is “tiny”.

  38. UkAlex6674

    Just for the record, I have a feeling that we will win tonight, and it don’t think it will even be close. GO HAWKS!

  39. Kenny Sloth

    Let’s f’ing go!!!!!

    23-17 Hawks

    • mishima

      34-17

      Defense keeps rolling with pressure and turnovers, 4 sacks + 3 interceptions.

      *gulp*

    • Coleslaw

      I think I’m going with 27-24 Seattle

      • Logan Lynch

        I’m conflicted. My gut is saying it will be the usual excruciating game, decided in the 4th quarter. My optimistic side is saying maybe this is the game where all 3 phases click at once…in that case, look out.

        • Coleslaw

          Very well could be. We wont be “playing down” to the vikings surely, if we can stop the run and force TOs it might be a blow out or another Philly game.

  40. Adog

    Meyers misses a Pat and a 51 yard field full. A improbable hawk loss looks imminent…until Quinton Patterson strips the ball away from cook. Meyers kicks the game winner. Hawks 20-vikes 17

    • Volume12

      Patterson?

      • Adog

        Jefferson

  41. Paul Cook

    Edge Seahawks tonight. I do think, however, that our passing game is going to have to get back on track tonight for us to win. If there’s been a weakness to the Vikings on offense and defense it’s been their secondary. I think we’re going to need a strong performance by RW to win it, and that means decent pass protection, holding onto passes, Tyler Lockett reemerging, and possibly some more Josh Gordon.

    Anything can happen. I do like our chances at home tonight on national TV, though.

    • Coleslaw

      2 words.

      Russell Wilson. December.

      • CHawk Talker Eric

        One more word:

        Primetime

        • Sea Mode

          Action green

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    Chris Petersen announced Monday that he will step down from his position as University of Washington head football coach following the Huskies’ bowl game.

    10:52 AM – 2 Dec 2019 from

    Peterson moving into an “athletics advisory role” with Huskies. Jimmy Lake will be named HC.

    WOW

    • Volume12

      Whoa.

      Lake is an excellent recruiter.

      • Volume12

        Sounds like he’s spent.

    • mishima

      Not surprised. Coached like he was in pain.

    • Aaron

      I had a feeling that he’d step down soon. He looked really tired this season. The only way Jimmy Lake was going to stay here was as the coach. His time as a coordinator was only going to last so long. Now get Meyer at USC and the Pac-12 might be relevant again nationally.

      • Paul Cook

        All coaches eventually resign, move on, get fired, or die. But this still STUNNED me as a Husky fan when I heard the news. Yeah, this was a disappointing year, but UW is not like Alabama or OSU or Clemson now who merely reload every year. We still have off years/gap years where the talent has to catch up to expectations/hopes for success. In other words, we’re like most good programs below the elite.

        But Coach Pete did look especially tired, frustrated, and annoyed this year. There was this quote by Fox analyst, former Husky QB, and forever Dawg Brock Huard that seemed fitting…

        “Doing this job that I do and getting to see the shortcuts others take
        and the amount of rampant cheating in college football…to have a guy
        that I full confidence that doesn’t play in that gray area and really
        is willing to live in the black and white, even if it’s costly to some
        of the recruiting battles, it’s very, very commendable and something
        worthy to be very, very proud of,” said FOX analyst and former UW
        quarterback Brock Huard.  “But I do think that eventually–and I don’t
        mind this being on the record–that takes a toll.  If that’s the
        direction (college football) is going over the long term, I just don’t
        think he was willing and wanting to play the game.”

        Anyway…

  43. Sea Mode

    My guy! Turns out I’ve got an eye for talent after all… 😉

    Reese’s Senior Bowl
    @seniorbowl
    1h

    The @Reeses #SeniorBowl would like to welcome DB Dane Jackson (@Djack11_) to the 2020 Senior Bowl! @Pitt_FB

    • mishima

      Sheeeit (in best Clay Davis voice).

    • Sea Mode

      ICYMI: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HWsa3HdNnM

    • Volume12

      Nice.

      Mizzou DT Jordan Elliott (6’4, 315 lbs.) also decalred for the draft.

      He’s a dude. Can flat out play. Long DT, high effort, nice combo of power/quickness. Think he’s a top 100 type.

      Jordan Elliott vs S. Carolina (2019):
      https://youtu.be/23gLDMcwZrA

      • Sea Mode

        Will definitely give him a look.

        Also, don’t miss out on the two ST gems I gave you up above in answer to your question! Other than those two, maybe Ashtyn Davis? I have a feeling he might get over-drafted though.

        But do the Hawks really draft guys JUST for ST, or do they draft good ST players that they believe can develop at other positions?

        • Volume12

          Will for sure give them a look.

          I would say the latter.

      • charlietheunicorn

        Ohhhhh. Right in the Seahawks wheelhouse for grabbing players in the 3rd/4th round. Definitely worth keeping tabs on him… leading up to the draft. 😀

  44. Sea Mode

    Reagor declares. His dad won a SB with the Colts? Cool.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/TheJalenReagor/status/1201576816718299137

    • Trevor

      Back to back 1st round picks from TCU? I certainly would not mind seeing him in a Hawks uni.

  45. Sea Mode

    Hate to do it, but I can’t pull this one tonight; gotta work tomorrow. But I’ll catch the replay as soon as I get home, no spoilers.

    Sending all good vibes Jason Myers’ way like the past two weeks before I sign off.

    Oh, and final score: Seahawks 27, Vikings 20.

    • Kenny Sloth

      I gotta work at 4 am. Ima try to tough it out haha

  46. Trevor

    Anyone had a chance to take a detailed look at Trey Smith (Vols) as Guard prospect. He has had serious medical issues with blood clots but when he has lined up as a Guard in the SEC he has dominated. Definitely a Guard not a Tackle but depending on his medicals he is a guy I would like the Hawks to take a close look at.

    • Rob Staton

      I think he’s overrated due to the recruiting hype. It also bothers me that he looks for his name on Twitter and seems to focus on criticism. I suspect he will last into the draft and maybe based on the upside he could be developed. But I’m not going to hope the Seahawks are the ones taking that chance.

      • Trevor

        Thanks for the feedback. I was curious because what I have seen of him looked dominant. Didn’t know about the social media stuff.

      • Coleslaw

        Just curious, why does that bother you?

        Idk anything more about it than what you said, but maybe hes using it as a chip on his shoulder?

        It does make him seem a little selfish, though. (Selfish isnt the right word). Kinda makes me think he might be one of the guys who changes a lot after he gets paid.

  47. Trevor

    As things stand now I would love to see the Hawks focus on DL in free agency and offense early in the draft.

    -Resign Clowney
    -Option #1 Free Agent Chris Jones / Option #2 Dante Fowler.
    -Let Reed and Ifedi test the market and only extend on team friendly deals
    -Cut Britt or restructure

    Draft
    RD #1 WR (Smith or Raegor)
    Rd #2 Traded to TB for OJ Howard
    Rd #2 Neville Gilmore (DT / Oklahoma)
    Rd #3 Nick Harris (Center / Washington) may have to take Harris in Rd #2 but I hope he slides a little because he is undersized.

    • Greg Haugsven

      -Resigning Clowney is good

      -Just not sure on Jones as I see Reed as the same guy and would rather keep my own player. Fowler could be a good option but I still believe that Greene will be a big part next year. Personally I would rather draft an edge guy who can get mixed in.

      -I am also for letting these guys test Free Agency. I think I would rather let Ifedi go (if he gets huge dollars) and sign Fant and let him and Jones battle it out for RT

      -Britt is a tricky one as you dont want a bunch of turnover there. If we lose Lupati, Ifedi, and Britt thats 60% and there goes your continuity so I would like to keep Britt some way.

      Draft
      I like your draft picks maybe RD2 some kind of speed edge rusher.

      I could talk about this stuff all day long.

  48. charlietheunicorn

    A couple of hours until sexy time

    The weather will be brisk/cold, but no wind or rain predicted.

    Should be a good game, similar to the 49er/Ravens game this last weekend.
    Some smash mouth /hard hitting football between two very good teams.

  49. Coleslaw

    Thank God for the Seahawks after a bad day at work. Time to kick some arse!!!

    I’m expecting to give up some chunk plays in the passing game, at the price of slowing Dalvin Cook down.

    This should come down to offense. Who can slow down the other offense more?

    Seattle is a better O, even before Thielen was out. They might be able to stay more balanced but after halftime, I’m confident that we can outscore them plentifully.

  50. Paul Cook

    It’s almost party time. Hopefully next time I check into this site it’s in Rob’s “instant reaction” thread after a Seahawk victory to take first place.

    Go Hawks!

  51. TomLPDX

    Go Hawks!

  52. CHawk Talker Eric

    Y’all ready for some football?!?

    Go Hawks!

  53. CHawk Talker Eric

    Tonight is, well, the rest of the season. Win and take the top spot in the NFCw and 2nd seed in the NFC. Lose and drop behind MIN for the 2nd WC spot.

    Here’s to the Seahawks playing to their potential.

  54. Kenny Sloth

    Go Hawks

    (Baby Yoda Russ is killing me rn)

  55. CHawk Talker Eric

    Still want to trade Penny?

  56. Rob Staton

    Looks like it might be Penny’s time…

  57. CHawk Talker Eric

    Totally blown tackle by KJ

  58. Hawks4life

    KJ you need to wrap up!!!!

  59. CHawk Talker Eric

    Where’s the tackling tonight?

  60. Rob Staton

    Awful start.

  61. Rob Staton

    That was the ‘hot knife through butter’ defense we saw in the first nine games.

    • Coleslaw

      2nd half adjustments will be crucial.

      • Rob Staton

        Going to need some first half adjustments based on that first defensive effort.

        • Coleslaw

          We did everything right on that play but secure the tackle on Ham.

          Flukey in my opinion. I still think we can force them to punt in this game.

          • Rob Staton

            Well, doing everything except tackle the ball carrier allowing a massive run after the catch isn’t insignificant 🙂

    • CHawk Talker Eric

      Looked like it was going to go the other way when Clowney shot the gap and had Cook deep in the backfield — except it wasn’t a handoff to Cook.

    • Pran

      Shoddy tackling…

    • Kenny Sloth

      So you’re saying it might have been too soon to get excited about this defense and that we’d had two ok performances in three weeks and a playoff caliber opponent might be able to exploit our inconsistency.

      • Rob Staton

        Yeah pretty much 🙂

        • Kenny Sloth

          Now where have I heard that before 😂

  62. Coleslaw

    Its all good. A lot of time left.

  63. Kenny Sloth

    Start & Win a Super Bowl against Tom Brady
    Pass for 7 TDs in a game
    Benched for Gardner Minshew

    Which of these things would you have thought most likely to occur in Nick Foles’ career?

  64. CHawk Talker Eric

    That sack was all on Wilson

  65. CHawk Talker Eric

    Hello Flash!

  66. Kenny Sloth

    Penny is so unconvincing lowering the shoulder.

    Backs getting hit not hitting the D this far

  67. CHawk Talker Eric

    Nice catch by DK!

  68. Rob Staton

    Lovely design on that TD run for Carson.

    • CHawk Talker Eric

      Great block by Fant to seal the defender outside at the LOS and give Carson the crease off Brown’s shoulder

  69. Volume12

    14 play, 8 minute drive is impressive.

  70. CHawk Talker Eric

    We got ourselves a ball game

    Hey where are my dogs at?

    • Kenny Sloth

      Let’s GOOOOOOO

      RUN THAT ROCK YOOOO

      • CHawk Talker Eric

        Yes! Kenny my man! That’s what I’m talkin’ bout!

  71. Henry Taylor

    Wilson called his shot, great answer.

  72. mishima

    Looks like Metcalf’s been working the JUGS Machine with Volume12.

    • Volume12

      It works.

      A couple more catches like that from him and he’ll have his confidence back.

      • mishima

        Truth. Sounds like he’s been putting in the work.

  73. Hawks4life

    Teams have got to start planning for this 2 header monster we have at RB. Keep them fresh for the playoffs Pete!

  74. Trevor

    Dalvin Cook is really good.

    • mishima

      Loved him coming out and bummed when he got hurt. Happy for him.

  75. CHawk Talker Eric

    Nice play by Rasheem Green

  76. Rob Staton

    Do not like how they motioned Stefon Diggs so easily to get a matchup vs KJ there.

  77. Kenny Sloth

    Love when our LBs are covering their #1 WR.

    Recipe for success

  78. CHawk Talker Eric

    McDougald is off to a great start tonight. Couple of near sacks and now this stop on 3rd down

  79. Rob Staton

    Credit to Minnesota… they’re covering extremely well here. Passing game a chore so far, every completion earned.

  80. Kenny Sloth

    Very good football from both squads and staffs thus far, very pleasing on the eye. My kind of ball

    • Volume12

      Agreed. Smashmouth.

      2 excellent coaches who’ve forgotten more about this game than most can ever learn.

  81. CHawk Talker Eric

    Seems like Umadi is always downfield on punt coverage in the returner’s face. Nice punt by Dickson. Wish they could’ve moved the ball a little more to flip the field but that punt kinda makes up for not.

  82. Rob Staton

    This MNF crew talks waaaaaaay too much.

    • CHawk Talker Eric

      NOT a fan of Booger McFarland

      • Hawks4life

        Booger and Charles Davis from last night both talk way to much

      • Rob Staton

        Joe Tessitore is as much a problem for me. Shouts constantly, even when he’s talking about the NFC West standings between plays. The broadcast never breathes with these two.

  83. CHawk Talker Eric

    Good challenge

    • Hawks4life

      I’m sure we win it but with the way they can run is it worth it this early?

    • mishima

      LOL. Some performance anxiety on that challenge, Pete?

  84. Volume12

    Oh no. A PC challenge. Should be interesting.

  85. Volume12

    Diggs!

    Delecious

  86. CHawk Talker Eric

    Diggs laying the wood!

    • Rob Staton

      BAMF

  87. CHawk Talker Eric

    Fantastic stop on 3rd down!

  88. mishima

    D A M N.

  89. mishima

    I’d like to see them take a deep shot, here, on 1st. Suspect Schotty is setting them up.

    • mishima

      Or that.

  90. Volume12

    Carson is holding the ball differently on some runs. Sounds cliche, but high & tight

  91. Volume12

    Why did Russ do that?!?

  92. Rob Staton

    What is Russell doing there???

    • Hawks4life

      I have no idea, that was a terrible decision

  93. Rob Staton

    That’s exactly the type of bonehead nonsense that happened in the Saints & Ravens games. Cheap points conceded yet again in a big home game.

    • Henry Taylor

      That was so unlucky tbf, if only he was a prototype 6’4 he could have got over that ball…

    • Pran

      Brain fart..you bat down like pulling it down ..

  94. CHawk Talker Eric

    Bollocks

  95. Kenny Sloth

    Lamar Jackson: Is this your MVP?

  96. Volume12

    Great play call on 3rd & short.

  97. Kenny Sloth

    Nice play by Penny, but he is not the guy to run through a mf

    • Volume12

      Not a finisher, but they got a hammer in Carson.

      • Kenny Sloth

        Thunder + Lightning is overrated

        I’ll double down on thunder all day. Scat backs are a package thing unless it’s a legit franchise back talent.

        Our backfield is Confusing af

  98. CHawk Talker Eric

    Hollister continues to step up

    • Volume12

      He’s been tremendous.

      Hope they keep him. Has become a security blanket for Russ.

  99. Pran

    That’s the kind of pick 6 Hawks needed to make Cousins panic. Such a bad break and free points for Vikes.

  100. CHawk Talker Eric

    OL is having a nice game

    • Kenny Sloth

      Good shout. Was thinking that in the first

    • mishima

      Both offensive lines are controlling LOS.

  101. Rob Staton

    Well, tonight could be the end of the Wilson MVP campaign.

    • Matt

      At this rate, he won’t even get a vote. He is very much off.

  102. Volume12

    Not a fan of throwing it 3 in a row from the 11 or 12.

  103. Pran

    Hope Meyer drills it through middle.. he is giving heartache in a close game

  104. Matt

    Why are we not good at home? Might be a blessing to lose and have to go on the road.

    • Matt

      What an uninspiring effort. Team looks like a 1 and done in the playoffs…again

  105. Rob Staton

    That pick six is an absolute back breaker in a game like this. They’re going to spend the second half chasing those seven points now — just like they had to do with the turnovers vs New Orleans & Baltimore.

    This is a really weird season. So many turnovers and terrible at home yet somehow 9 wins so far and unbeaten on the road.

    • Matt

      Feels like reality is finally catching up to the Hawks. Maybe we really are a 9 win team that simply got lucky. Don’t know, but this is just ugly. RW looks just average going on almost a month now.

  106. CHawk Talker Eric

    Kirk Cousins is a much improved QB

    • Rob Staton

      Everything is so managed tonight though and our defense just can’t do anything. It’s screens, runs, easy throws, so conservative. And it’s methodically working because on the other side they’re making us earn every yard and they have the ridiculous pick six.

      • CHawk Talker Eric

        I was more thinking about the Kirk Cousins of seasons past. This one is better than before. They may be managing him a lot, but he’s doing well in it.

    • Pran

      Ultra conservative..

  107. Coleslaw

    We’re a 2nd half team. We will outscore them 17-7 in the 2nd half

    27-24 Seattle

  108. Volume12

    And that was why they shouldn’t have abandoned the run. Especially from the 10 f***n’ 10 yard line.

  109. Pran

    That fumble was ours… Refs were kind to review and rule everything in Vikes favor

  110. Volume12

    On a side note.

    Really happy to see Derrius Guice finally starting to get healthy. 10 carries, and 113 yds after contact yesterday.

  111. DC

    It’d be nice to see a pass rush in the 2nd half

  112. Kelly

    Still not sold on this defense. I just don’t see much physicality besides Diggs.

    • mishima

      Wagz is MIA.

  113. Pran

    We need to sack Cousins if we need picks and fumbles. pressure wasn’t good enough to force bad Kirk show up

  114. Tony

    Yall act like this isnt our M.O. We always do this exact game nearly every week. Give free points dropped opportunities. Blame coaching, lack of concentration or just flukiness. This will end in a 1 score game. It is the Pete Carroll way.

    • Hawks4life

      Classic Pete Carroll football

      • Tony

        Like rob said.

        Enjoy the ride.

  115. WALL UP

    You can never have enough PRs, Shaq, Clowney & Ansah together again.

  116. Rob Staton

    Vikings secondary playing brilliantly tonight.

  117. Volume12

    No false start? Alrighty.

    • mishima

      Have seen it a number of times tonight. Thought I was seeing things.

  118. CHawk Talker Eric

    Definitely not one of Russ’s better games.

  119. Rob Staton

    I hate those out of bounds flags.

    So cheap, even when they benefit us.

    • Coleslaw

      I think it’s a good thing to penalize.

      • Rob Staton

        It is when it favours us. But when a player initiates contact in bounds and then completes the process out of bounds and gets flagged — it’s so undeserved. For any team. And it’s asking the players in the most physical game in the world to consider where they are when ‘finishing’ tackles to avoid flags, which is unrealistic.

        • Pran

          That’s a well deserved flag. He can seriously hurt Carson on the sideline if he is thrown like that in to equipment / folks.

  120. Rob Staton

    Carson big run… checks out of the game on 1st and goal. Come on man.

    • Rob Staton

      Absolutely love our red zone run-designs so far though.

      • CHawk Talker Eric

        Nice block by DK

    • Coleslaw

      Penny is hot and they want to show/see what he can do. Decision to make on Carson soon.

      • Pran

        They won’t let Carson leave unless his other problems continue.

  121. Volume12

    This 1-2 punch at RB is heating up.

  122. CHawk Talker Eric

    Great series for the running game. Penny is really stepping up

  123. Pran

    Looks like Penny turned corner. He is confident, strong and decisive.

  124. Rob Staton

    MNF stop bloody jinxing us with all these ‘Wilson unbeaten vs the Vikings’ and ‘Cousins has never won on MNF’ graphics.

    • Pran

      They are hoping Cousins gets the message and caves in.

  125. CHawk Talker Eric

    YES! McDougald with the fumble recovery!

    • CHawk Talker Eric

      Great play by Green to punch it loose

    • Hawks4life

      What a great effort by both Green and McDougal! We needed that momentum!

  126. Volume12

    We’re cooking now!

    Rasheem the puppy is becoming a big dawg!

  127. Henry Taylor

    Huuuuuge!

  128. Rob Staton

    There’s our guy — McDougald. Yes we’re taking ownership of him now after weeks of highlighting how AWESOME he’s playing.

    Rasheem Green turning into ‘big play Rasheem’ too.

    • Pran

      Finally.. get those 7 and be ahead.

  129. Hawks4life

    David Moore has to make that catch IMO

    • Rob Staton

      Trying to work out what the plan was there. Lot’s of motion for not an obvious plan.

    • Pran

      Ridiculous.. went to 3 pass plays yet again and failed yet again. Rushing is working just great.

  130. Rob Staton

    Bloody hell this is becoming a war of attrition.

    • Rob Staton

      Feels like the next team to make a big defensive play will win.

  131. Kenny Sloth

    Any penalties for Seattle yet? Dont think so

  132. DC

    Where’s our QB?

    • Rob Staton

      Minnesota’s defense covering superbly.

      But, given his MVP credentials so far this year, they need him to provide some magic for sure.

    • Pran

      Russ is not fully settled for some reason. Rushing throws at times.

  133. CHawk Talker Eric

    Booger McFarland says Wilson was just a little bit off on that throw to Moore. Not even close. Wilson put that pass right where it should be. It was Moore who blew the reception. I don’t enjoy listening to Booger

    • Rob Staton

      Looked like Moore took his eye off it or lost the ball somehow. Was a perfect throw.

    • Volume12

      This passing game misses Lockett badly.

  134. Matt

    WR is a major need. Moore can’t play. Lockett is clearly hurt…nearly non-existent. Critical need.

    • Rob Staton

      Lockett is the most alarming short-term. Without him at 100% the offense is severely weakened.

      • Matt

        Just shows how fragile the unit is. 1 player away from dysfunction. Locketts leg really worries me long term.

        • Rob Staton

          You’re absolutely right they need an insurance policy and this is the draft to do it. So much speed & talent at receiver.

          • Matt

            Consider me WR in R1, all the way. They need a guy that can contribute right now. Maybe Nick Harris in R2?

            • Rob Staton

              The only problem could be the top WR’s fly off the board. If they run as well as expected at the combine, it’s extremely likely they will all rise.

              • Matt

                If that’s the case, they need to be aggressive to get a guy

                • Rob Staton

                  I don’t agree there. If it’s a few spots, maybe. But I suspect Reagor, Ruggs and Hamler are going to go a lot earlier than people realise.

                  • CHawk Talker Eric

                    What about Smith? He’s about even with Reagor in terms of desirability for me.

  135. Rob Staton

    Screens… 😐

  136. Kenny Sloth

    Why cant we do an all black uniform w green trim or something. Can’t get over these duds

    • Volume12

      Not feeling ’em either my man. 🤮

    • Coleslaw

      They fit the decade. I’m also hoping for change, hopefully the 2020s will bring the 80s unis back

    • CHawk Talker Eric

      Like Oregon

      • Kenny Sloth

        Fre$h 🤑

  137. Coleslaw

    This is a WAY tougher team than we gave them credit for the first month+ of the season.

  138. mishima

    Another Wilson stat: 8 straight years trying to be cool. Ain’t happening.

    😉

    • Volume12

      Had to marry Future’s girl

    • Kenny Sloth

      Lamar Jackson, however is very undeniably cool imo

      • mishima

        Coolest mofo in the NFL. His own man.

    • Kenny Sloth

      Heard us talking shit

      • mishima

        LOL. Will take a cut.

  139. CHawk Talker Eric

    Carson’s so hot he’s getting Gatorade down his back

  140. Coleslaw

    Honestly seems like Penny is the better bet to get yards in some situations.

  141. Coleslaw

    PLAYMAKER

  142. Hawks4life

    I’ll forgive more for that drop!

  143. Rob Staton

    WTF happened to Xavier Rhodes this year?

    • Volume12

      Yeah, that stat line ain’t pretty.

    • CHawk Talker Eric

      Whatever it is, it’s in his head. You can just see his lack of confidence on the sideline

      • Rob Staton

        Without a doubt. His body language and facial expressions suggest a player who has absolutely lost every ounce of confidence. He’s grasping to find out what’s going on himself.

  144. Volume12

    Now that was cool.

    • Volume12

      Has no rhythm. Like, zero.

      • Volume12

        Lookin’ like Eileen from ‘Seinfeld.’

        Someone left his a** outta dance rehearsal this week

    • mishima

      The coolest.

  145. CHawk Talker Eric

    Wow Moore was all alone. Just blew past his defender. Great pass by Wilson.

    That TD celebration took some choreography. I wonder when they get together to practice 😂

  146. Henry Taylor

    Now that’s a third quarter! 17-0

    • CHawk Talker Eric

      Fantastic

  147. Rob Staton

    Come on D… hold tight fella’s. No big plays. No soft coverage to concede easy yards either if possible please.

    • CHawk Talker Eric

      Being down by 10 helps the D. Should allow our pass rushers to really pin their ears and go for it without worrying too much about defending the run.

      • mishima

        Cousins is going to press, commit 2 turnovers.

        • CHawk Talker Eric

          Welp half way there mishima

  148. WALL UP

    Looks like they took Rhodes helmet from him. No more Rhodes?

  149. Rob Staton

    WHAT A PLAY BY TRE!!!!!

    • Rob Staton

      BEAST

  150. CHawk Talker Eric

    OMG Flowers with the circus INT!

    • Volume12

      Game!

  151. Kenny Sloth

    Beautifully blocked

  152. Rob Staton

    THIS IS LOVELY

  153. Hawks4life

    I thought Penny was a bust?

  154. CHawk Talker Eric

    Fans who stress that Duane Brown is getting too old should watch replays of that last play where he gets outside and downfield to block for Penny. Dude’s moving well for an old guy 😉

  155. Volume12

    Penny & Carson show!

  156. CHawk Talker Eric

    SO happy they’re feeding Penny (and happy he’s eating it up). There was talk of trading him a couple of weeks ago?

  157. mishima

    The evolution of the secondary has been so fun to watch. Tre + Shaq coming into their own, McDougald’s all-around game, the addition of Diggs’ thump, Blair and Amadi as depth. Great story and testament to Pete’s genius with DBs.

    • mishima

      (OK, not that.)

  158. Kenny Sloth

    Penalty against the Seahawks, yet?

  159. Rob Staton

    What was that???

  160. Rob Staton

    That’s so cheap and sloppy and typical really. Why can’t anything ever be easy?

    • CHawk Talker Eric

      Blown assignment somewhere between Griffin and McD. Really ugly. Also the MIN RB screen is just gashing us. They’ve managed a few key 3rd down conversions on that screen.

    • Pran

      Fans can’t have enough heartaches.. defense took it easy…that’s gonna haunt McD and Griffin

    • Kenny Sloth

      Can’t win the game in the third quarter.

      Such a clean game by both teams outside of a few freak plays and blown assignments. Every one has been game changing

  161. Volume12

    McDougald gets caught cheating.

  162. Trevor

    flowers and Griffin are developing into one of the best young pair of CB in the league. If
    Amadi can step up at the Nickel spot next year or they add someone this secondary is going to be really solid.

  163. WALL UP

    It’s hard to communicate with the noise level so high. BMac missed that with Shaq.

  164. Tony

    Great lesson about not doing your job. That’ll be highlighted tomorrow in review.

  165. Pran

    There is so much time left .. gawd. Last thing we wanted is giving up clock saving easy points

  166. Rob Staton

    BIG BALLS PETE

    • Rob Staton

      Homer: ‘I aint going out of bounds’

  167. Hawks4life

    Travis Homer sighting!!!

  168. Henry Taylor

    What a ballsy call! I love it.

  169. CHawk Talker Eric

    LOVE this call!

  170. Volume12

    Inject that directly into my veins!

    Big balls Pete!

    • Pran

      Keep pounding the life out of the Vikes defense and Zimmer.. luv it

  171. Kenny Sloth

    Fire Brian Schneider

    So I can marry him

  172. Rob Staton

    No idea why we’re taking deep shots having run all day and needing to kill time.

    • Volume12

      Me either.

    • Pran

      Keep defense honest. If they rush 3 times and fail we gonna call it taking foot of gas.

      • Rob Staton

        We’ve been running all day for 180 yards.

  173. CHawk Talker Eric

    Was gonna say before that fake punt, and I mean no disrespect to Russ, but an MVP makes that pass to Carson, even on the run with a defender in his face. We’ve seen him make plays like that so it’s not a criticism of his ability but rather his consistency. Gotta convert those plays, especially when you have the physical tools to do it.

  174. Hawks4life

    WTF is with Metcalf in clutch situations….

  175. Rob Staton

    For crying out loud how many fumbles!?!?!

  176. CHawk Talker Eric

    Oh DK cmon man

    Wow an incomplete pass that’s a huge call

    • Volume12

      Yeah that might b tough to overturn.

  177. Rob Staton

    How the hell have they not called that a fumble. Clear fumble. They will win this challenge.

    • Kenny Sloth

      Turn upfield a football move?

      No time to tuck ball

      • Rob Staton

        If they don’t overturn this the game’s gone.

        • Kenny Sloth

          On replay clear clear fumble

  178. Kenny Sloth

    @ rookie wr touches

    • Pran

      DK and Carson need to challenge each other… DK hardly gets 4 or 5 touches a game and he is
      Making a mess consistently.

  179. Rob Staton

    D.K. is a fun, exciting player.

    But my word there are SO many issues to work on. Ball security, high-pointing, box-out. These are not minor issues.

    • Kenny Sloth

      Rob we knew this. His highs translate so much better than I expected and his mentality is maybe his best trait or amazing PR job to color him as the 2nd hardest working guy in the locker room. Maybe a bit of both

  180. Tony

    When can I worry about DK ability to drop everything. For a beast of a player, he has really soft grips.

  181. Volume12

    Trying to do too much. Just take the yards.

    No one cares about fighting for needlessly extra yards up 10.

    • Volume12

      And why is Lockett out there anyways? He ain’t 100%

    • Coleslaw

      My friends laughed at me for saying that lol

      • Volume12

        He had the 1st. Why try to prove anything?

  182. Rob Staton

    Busted coverage and a fumble turnover.

    This is why we can’t have nice easy finishes.

  183. Rob Staton

    HOW was that completed???

  184. CHawk Talker Eric

    Pass rush needs to get to Cousins on this play

  185. Rob Staton

    Now a huge PI.

    Good grief what’s going on???

    Why are we throwing this away?

  186. CHawk Talker Eric

    Diggs totally created that PI

  187. CHawk Talker Eric

    Refs blew the whistle too early again

  188. Kenny Sloth

    Vintage Clowney

  189. Rob Staton

    Oh come on lads.

    This is unbelievable.

  190. Hawks4life

    It’s not over till its over…. we know that all to well as Seahawks fans. Let’s hope that Russell has one last drive for the night

    • Hawks4life

      Well a FG will be huge for us now thanks to that shank

  191. CHawk Talker Eric

    Big missed PAT

  192. Volume12

    Lol.

    • Kenny Sloth

      Lmao.

  193. Kenny Sloth

    Big boy football now

    • Volume12

      Shoulda been that on the last drive

  194. Pran

    Unbelievable shit

    • Volume12

      Seahawk s**t

      They capture lightning in a bottle and somehow let it out.

  195. Kelly Orr

    K.J. looks uncoordinated and like a drowning kid in a swimming pool when he’s in coverage.

  196. CHawk Talker Eric

    A clock eating drive to end the game is what we need. This offense has done a couple in this game already so they can do it

  197. Pran

    3 big mistakes and game is on line

    • Pran

      Russ .. hate it man.

  198. Hawks4life

    With Lockett being hurt, DKs issues, Moore and his constant drops and Jaron “the ghost” Brown I wonder what’s keeping them from feeding Gordon. I imagine it’s the chemistry and lack of knowing the plays, but I’d like him to get some opportunities along with Turner.

    • Hawks4life

      Then Wilson does that. Drive over

  199. Rob Staton

    Oh come on Russell. WHAT ARE THEY DOING????

  200. Kenny Sloth

    OL massive tonight regardless of outcome.

  201. CHawk Talker Eric

    JFC Wilson that’s just inexcusable

    Definitely not MVP play

    • Kelly

      Pathetically inexcusable decision there. Just get rid of it.

  202. mishima

    Typically too cute.

  203. WALL UP

    This day the MVP is lost by Wilson.

  204. CHawk Talker Eric

    Quite remarkable and discouraging to watch Seattle trying to piss this win away. Poor execution, poor concentration, poor clock management.

  205. Trevor

    Russ can’t take a sack like that in that spot.

    • Pran

      Russ must have taken a big hit in 49ers game or the one before.

  206. Tony

    What a massive letdown to a game we had won.

  207. Pran

    I hate the passing game.. wasting so much clock looking for those big plays yet again and a fumble to boot.

  208. CHawk Talker Eric

    This is almost too painful to watch

    • Pran

      4 down territory here.. is defense going to hold up

    • Volume12

      Don’t get me wrong it drains me, but I love this stuff.

  209. WALL UP

    IR for Ansah.

  210. CHawk Talker Eric

    Huge stand!

  211. Hawks4life

    Hold the celebration they still have 3 TO

  212. CHawk Talker Eric

    A couple of first downs wins the game

  213. Volume12

    Shoulda been feeding Carson 7 minutes ago. IMO anyways

    • Volume12

      9 away from another 1,000 yd season.

    • Pran

      Yeah..

      Simmer must be feeling it.. rush down the throat the way he wants to do.

  214. CHawk Talker Eric

    YES!

  215. WALL UP

    Maybe they play a complete game on Sunday.

  216. mishima

    Love Iupati’s example and leadership. Great addition to the OL.

  217. Pran

    20secs

  218. CHawk Talker Eric

    Unreal

  219. Volume12

    Yes sir!

    • Pran

      Cousins likes it (inside)… he is not the one to lose this one.

  220. Volume12

    Better be able to play STs as a position playet if you want to stick on Seattle’s 53. Why I suspect Jennings didn’t.

    Homer was huge tonight

  221. Kelly

    Played like smashed dog shit but a Win is Win.

    • Kelly

      Win is a Win*

  222. Tony

    This years team baffles me

    It is the most clutch, big play team while simultaneously being the most frustrating careless team. It just baffles me how the tide changes so abruptly each game. Like a boxer who just throws wild haymakers while leaving himself open for shots all game.

  223. Kenny Sloth

    Only penalty was the savvy play to get PI by Diggs

    • Volume12

      That was super clever.

  224. Kenny Sloth

    Tyler Lockett silenced

    • Coleslaw

      Yet put up 37 with mostly rushing on a top 10 rushing D.

      This team deserves more credit. They’re ballers and gritty.

      • Coleslaw

        I love the mix of grit, savvy and playmaking we have. Perfect mix.

    • Shane

      He reportedly had the flu, so I don’t think we should be too worried

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