College football draft notes 16/10

Just a few notes today as today I’ve been to London for the third time this week and time has been really short.

Georgia defensive tackles are legit

You do read some rubbish if you follow draft Twitter or some of the bigger name pundits and writers.

While various players get vaulted way beyond their talent level, others get dismissed for no plausible reason.

Georgia defensive tackle Jordan Davis was an afterthought for most. Others had him graded in the middle rounds.


I thought he warranted a high grade a year ago and was surprised he didn’t declare for the 2021 draft. That decision has so far been validated because if anything, he’s promoted his stock even further this year with consistent domination for the Bulldogs.

He absorbs double teams and in some cases, ploughs through them to create pressure. He handles the interior with his great size and underrated athleticism. Yet he also shows off the quickness to create the occasional pressure and disrupt the quarterback.

This is not a good looking draft class for 2022. Currently, I’ve only identified eight players I’d be willing to put even a reasonably high grade on. There are a lot of unknowns and players who are either inconsistent or underperforming.

Davis is going to be one of the best players available. He’s someone who can anchor your D-line, provide stoutness and set the tone. He’s not going to be a sack artist or a splash player every week. Yet he’s going to shock people at the combine and whoever gets him — it’ll likely be a bargain.

His teammate is also worth a mention. Devonte Wyatt is more of a three-technique but he also delivers a level of physicality. He’s quick, shoots gaps but he can play early downs too.

Both had a big impact against Kentucky today — sharing a blocked field goal by destroying the interior protection and otherwise creating chaos up front.

If you like watching the trenches — Georgia are a dream. A big, hulking, tone-setting O-line and impact players on the D-line. Massive, tough, athletic. There’s a reason why they’re undefeated despite fielding two unspectacular quarterbacks this season.

Speaking of quarterbacks, Kentucky’s Penn State transfer Will Levis showed off some talent in this game. A good, quick release. Generally accurate. A solid throwing base. He’s athletic and well sized. Levis is a junior and will likely stay in school for next year but he has a bright future if he continues to develop.

Another tight end to add to the list

As mentioned, it’s looking like a flat 2022 draft with very little in the way of clear top-20 talent. However, unusually, it’s a strong tight end class.

San Jose State’s Derrick Deese Jr might lack great athletic qualities but he just catches everything. He’ll go up and high-point the football. He boxes out defenders. He’s very difficult to cover.

Deese Jr also has the size to develop his blocking.

Against San Diego State the ball was like a magnet to him. His team almost pulled off an upset and it was mainly due to his performance.

It won’t be a surprise, with his NFL bloodlines, if he enters the league and finds a way to have an impact. This is a name to monitor.

I’m going to write up a review of the draft class later this week, in part to take our minds off what I suspect will be a chastening evening in Pittsburgh tomorrow.

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  1. Paul Cook

    Yeah, I watched those Georgia tackles. Looked pretty darn solid to me. Man they have a great defense stat-wise and other-wise. A bit of a rare phenomenon these days.

    Iowa loses and will drop today. I had a soft spot for them, but their offense really got exposed today. Couldn’t do much of anything. Oklahoma should move up to #3 in the polls after this weekend with a win today.

  2. DriveByPoster

    Glad you mentioned Levis, Rob. As well as arm talent, I thought he made good decisions on the field. When to throw the ball away & when to just eat it & take the sack.

    • BobbyK

      First I had watched of him. Going against a D like that – I was impressed with what I saw. Wouldn’t be easy for anyone to face a college D like that. The hand/arm/wrist/whatever strength he demonstrated on that should have been strip sack that was ruled incomplete was insane. Almost every other QB on earth would have fumbled that before any of their arm could move forward.

  3. Paul Cook

    Rattler benched for Williams today for Oklahoma vs TCU. I’m trying to think of the last time a Heisman Trophy candidate QB got benched for a back up? It’s not really surprising with how Williams performed last game in place of Rattler, but still a big deal.

  4. GoHawks5151

    I’ve seen DE George Karlaftis of Purdue a few times and have come away impressed every time. 1 sack, 1 TFL, and 3 hurries in the upset of Iowa today. I’m not sure if he is enough of an athlete for the next level or at least Seattle.

    • Rob Staton

      He has a burst. There’s definitely something there. I just wonder if he can speed/power and drive, be able to disengage if the initial get-off doesn’t work and whether he’s a good enough athlete to really, truly test pro-tackles. Combine will be interesting for him.

  5. Paul Cook

    Caleb Williams might already be the best college QB in the country. He can make most every throw, he’s big and strong and great athlete, and he’s already, as a true freshman, a great leader. If it was allowable, this guy could turn pro after this year and possibly be the #1 pick in the draft. The only thing I haven’t seen the guy do in two games is throw early enough before receivers look for the ball. But that’s a pure experience thing, which he will get.

    Caleb Williams the next great QB.

  6. Bankhawk

    That Georgia team is indeed looking like a good place to shop for a restock for the trenches-on both sides of the line they have been beasting people.
    With Carson’s durability further called into question, and Penny not looking like an answer, LSU RB Ty Davis- Price, and Cin. Bearcats RB, Jerome Ford were both appealing watches this weekend.
    Some of what I’m seeing out there actually gets me hyped for a big roster churn.

  7. KD

    So who is the Heisman frontrunner? I don’t see any player who is dominating CFB so far. At this point Bryce Young maybe just because best stats? Feels like the Heisman will just be the best stats award.

    • CHaquesFan

      I was thinking Matt Corral is up there too?

      • Pugs1

        Corral has a chance. I’d throw in a couple of RB Walker & Robinson along with Young for the Heisman.
        I think Corral will be the first QB to hear his name called in April.

        • Rob Staton

          I think Corral will be the first QB to hear his name called in April.

          Meh. Not sure about that.

          • Pugs1

            I’ll say this, if Baker Mayfield can go #1 IMO Corral can go extremely high. Not trying to convince you but Corral is tough as nails with a very good arm. I’m sold on his intangibles also.

            • Rob Staton

              Yeah but Baker in fairness had Oklahoma pushing for the National Championship.

              Corral is not a bad player by any stretch. He’s a very accomplished college QB. But a potential franchise NFL QB???

    • Palatypus

      If you are looking for a dark horse, how about Sean Tucker out of Syracuse? He is currently leading the NCAA in rushing with 948 yards on 155 carries for a 6.1 yard average. His 9 touchdowns tie him for 4th in the nation with 9 players.

      No running back from Syracuse has ever led the nation in rushing. Not Jim Nance, not Joe Morris, not Larry Csonka, not Floyd Little, not Ernie Davis, not Jim Brown.

  8. Big Mike

    Kevin Harlan calling the Jags v. Phins game from London this morning. What a treat.

    • Big Mike

      Another announcing bonus today, the single FOX game is Browns v. Cards and it’s not the Aikman game.

      • TomLPDX

        Not expecting the Cards to win that since some of the coaching staff is on the covid list. Should be interesting to see how they do.

    • bmseattle

      Man, as a closet Dolphins fan, it’s difficult to watch what’s happening to that team.
      How did they mess up this latest rebuild? Is it as simple as drafting the wrong QB?
      It just shows, that having a million 1st round picks isn’t enough… you have to have the right people making those picks, and then coaching them.

      • Rob Staton

        Wasted their picks

  9. Rik

    Eastern Washington University (ranked 2nd in FCS) QB Eric Barriere threw for 600 yards and 7 touchdowns against the University of Idaho yesterday.

    Same school that produced Cooper Kupp, Kendrick Bourne, and a number of other active NFL starters. Mid-round pick to groom for the future?

    • Big Mike

      I watched a good portion of that game yesterday (my nieces graduated from EWU and it’s near where I grew up in Spokane so I’m always interested). His accuracy looks good and arm strength seemed good as well. Not all the throws were to wide open guys either. Had good legs too. He’s listed at 6’1″ so likely closer to 6′. My very untrained eye says he’s got a chance to be drafted.

  10. Rob Staton

    Davis Mills looking good.

    Would be more excited to see him or Kellen Mond tonight than Geno…

  11. Mick

    Boy the Ravens are scary strong this year.

    • AlaskaHawk

      Against the Chargers, that’s pretty good.

      I have yet to see the Cardinals in action, I feel like I’m missing out on scouting the competition.

      Seahawks on monday night football. Wow! Probably an evenly matched contest.

  12. Big Mike

    Trevor Lawrence looked like a rookie QB who is starting to make some definite progress today vs. Miami. Pretty good decision making and of course the arm is excellent. He played well against a Miami D which isn’t what it was last year but I’m guessing is still better than Seattle’s. That game could easily be a loss for the Hawks imo.

    • Rob Staton

      Lawrence has played well for a while.

      I’ve been stunned how many Seahawks fans/media have been calling that game a win.

      We shouldn’t assume the Seahawks minus Wilson will win ANY game.

    • cha

      That 54 yard FG the kicker curved just into the corner was a beauty. Like a draw put on a long drive down the fairway.

    • Mick

      The D of the Jaguars looked pretty weak though. And Miami had several opportunities that they didn’t use. This is why I think we have a shot against the Jags.

  13. Rob Staton

    Jonathan Taylor pre-draft: “Please draft me Seahawks, please”

    Seahawks: “Get another linebacker”

    • Mick

      We have Carson and Penny, why get a healthy RB…

      • Rob Staton

        I bet anything this neck injury is tied to the nonsense workouts Carson was doing during the off-season

        • Elmer

          With our RB health problems, have you seen any RB draft prospects that look promising? Not like Dallas and Homer, I mean Really promising and who could be available in round 2.

          • Rob Staton


            Big draft article coming this week will have the details

            • Elmer

              Great! Thank you.

        • Peter Jakubisin

          Rob if you always stay ready you don’t have to get ready….ergo if you train like you’re trying to put yourself on IR you’re ready for when it eventually happens

        • Palatypus

          “I bet anything this neck injury is tied to the nonsense workouts Carson was doing during the off-season.”

          Very likely. Two books that I have used a lot when training are 1)Conditioning for Football The Syracuse Way by Mike Woicik and 2)Applied Anatomy of Aerial Arts by Emily Sherb, DPT. They are consistent when discussing injury prevention.

          I have also taken my Mom to the Andrews Institute here in Pensacola for Physical Therapy. It was weird having so many pro athletes around me in the same training room with a 70-year-old woman, many of them NFL players.

    • Big Mike

      Russell Wilson: “please draft Taylor “.
      Can’t have too many below average LBs you know.

    • BobbyK

      Why draft a durable game breaking RB when you can have both Carson and Penny? They’re ironmen, especially Carson. NEVER misses any games. He’s so durable, they signed him to an extension. That’s durability!

  14. swedenhawk

    Who does Ed Orgeron take over for next season, Pete or Ken Norton Jr.?

    • Palatypus

      Jimmy Lake.

    • Rob Staton

      Neither. He’s on Pete’s USC staff.

      • Palatypus

        Or head coach at USC and he takes all his recruits with him to cash in big on NIL in the biggest T.V. market in the world.

  15. JimQ

    Don’t know if he will be declaring for the draft but this kid has some pretty darn good stats, however, I really haven’t watched any tape yet. Heaven knows, getting a few decent DB’s added by any means is imperative.

    CB/DB: Ja’Quan McMillian, East Carolina, 5-10/183-lb. — has some pretty good stats & should warrant some further study even if he’s a smaller DB that isn’t in the “normal” mold, perhaps, IF he has good combine testing numbers he could potentially be an asset as a nickel/dime back or a safety?, Ball hawk?
    2021: 6-games so far, 4-INT (1 for TD), 37-tkls, 25-solo, 4-TFL, and 12-PBU’s. (currently #1 in PD’s in FBS.)
    In his 27 game, 3-yr. history, he has a total of 11-INT, 24-PBU’s.

  16. David

    Just random thoughts running through my brain as I’m sitting on the couch watching the early games.

    Russell Wilson for the past ten years has been spectacular at 3 things.
    1) deep ball
    2) play action deep ball
    3) scramble/run in circles/stolen play deep ball

    Other than that, IMO he’s league average (if not more on the bottom half of every other type of pass attempt that other starting/top tier QBs make).

    Are my eyes out of wack?

    Just some food for though as we go into our a span of games without him playing for the 1st time in 10 years

    • Peter

      You know wilson was the 8th ranked short pass, 1st ranked medium pass, and a mere 11th ranked deep passer in 2020? In terms of accuracy….where people come up withthis “all he throws are bombs,” stuff is beyond me.

      • Big Mike

        Oh seriously Peter. Why let facts get in the way?

        • Peter Jakubisin

          Stats don’t lie….best dressed safety in the game

  17. JimQ

    Current stats for Jamal Adams so far this season!!!!!!!!!!!! – This is what we get for a million bucks a game?
    Absolutely NOT enough. If I were a season ticket holder, I’d be howling for accountability on how the front office spends my $’s invested as a supportive fan. See:

  18. Big Mike

    Rams lighting the Giants up. Must be cuz Colt McCoy isn’t at QB for NY.

  19. cha

    More grist for the mill.

    The Seahawks game against Arizona in Week 11 is the first real opportunity for Wilson to get back on the field, sources said, though the future Hall of Fame quarterback, who never missed a snap prior to this injury, is pushing as hard as possible to play as quickly as possible.

    The injury has further called Wilson’s future with the team into question after a tumultuous offseason in which he was open to a trade and opportunities elsewhere.

    Wilson made it clear this winter he is seeking a more balanced and diverse offense and better pass protection, and his relationship with the organization has certainly grown more complicated over the years. It’s hard to imagine contract extension talks gaining much steam, and Seattle’s viability as a contender in the short-term, with a uber-competitive QB now approaching his mid-30s, is certainly up for debate, even with Wilson under center.

    There is no concern at this point that he has played his last game for the Seahawks, but that question could come to dominate their offseason discussion in 2022, as it did in 2021.

    • Big Mike

      But didn’t I hear here that he’s shutting it down for the rest of the season cuz he’s so unhappy? Well regardless, Geno gonna outplay him and relegate RW to 2nd string anyway.

      It’s not complicated, either Pete leaves or Russ leaves. It’ll be one or the other. The good news is they’ll sell clicks writing about it for the next several months.

      • Paul Cook

        It could be PC leaves and RW leaves as well. IMO Paul Allen was one of the central tethers binding RW to the franchise and the city, and his death probably made RW’s leaving the franchise a real possibility.

        Beyond seeing himself as one of the great QB’s of his generation, RW also envisions himself as a corporate entity/brand, aspires to become a business mogul/enterprise along the likes of certain other great black athletes and entertainers of his time, like Magic Johnson, LeBron James, Michael Jordan, Jay Z, Dr Dre, and the like. RW’s ambitions go far beyond football.

        I think in Paul Allen he found a future mentor in this way concerning such ambitions. He already bought into Paul Allen’s Seattle Sounders as a part owner. He talked about owning an NFL franchise some day. He thought about and became partially involved in bringing the Sonics back to Seattle as part of a group. He thought about bringing another professional sports team to Portland, the city where Paul Allen’s Blazers reside.

        Now with PC/JS’s poor personnel/team building moves of late, PC’s meddling and stubbornness when it comes to how he wants his team to play, and Paul Allen’s death which not only left PC in charge, but also ended his personal and business relationships with a man he immensely respected…I don’t believe that RW is tethered much at all to this franchise, city, and region as he once quite clearly was.

        It’s just not working out for him any longer, and he can hear the clock ticking on the career ambitions he still has for himself in the sport, and the springboard this will provide for his future ambitions beyond football.

        • Big Mike

          Would not be surprised one bit if you ended up being correct.

  20. Dave m

    Malik McDowell sighting lmao

  21. Sea Mode

    LOL, Tyreek glancing back at the end:

  22. Sea Mode


    • Rob Staton

      In reality, what was happening is someone was trying to build a ‘beer snake’. In England, at sporting events where drinking is allowed in your seat (eg cricket) — people generally get bored and a bit drunk and start stacking plastic cups to create a ‘snake’. Then you collect others and chant ‘feed the snake’ to encourage others to drink up and pass on your cup.

      Unfortunately, the idiots in London today started launching their cups at a guy building a snake near the front row. Apparently some people got hurt. This is not how it’s supposed to be.

      Usually it’s quite fun. I remember helping build a massive beer snake at a cricket match in Leeds. It was a great distraction from the bloody awful cricket England were playing. And we all sang, ‘we love you snakey, we do’.

  23. Sea Mode

    Woof… Jones absolutely drilled. By the look on his face jogging off, he’ll be feeling that one in the morning.

  24. Zane

    I just realized that today we’ll witness Sydney Jones trying to cover Chase Claypool… yikes

    • Hawks4life

      Imagine Flowers

  25. Rob Staton

    JJ Watt out there blowing up plays on his own, forcing turnovers, dominating.

    Cap hit this year — $4.9m

    Cap hit in 2022 — £15.9m

    Draft picks wasted — zero

    • Big Mike

      Didn’t Watt state that one of the biggest reasons he went to AZ was “the culture”?

      • BobbyK

        Most free agents lie about that stuff. They generally go to who pays them the most.

        Seahawks would rather waste draft picks and pay those bums the big bucks. Couldn’t just sign a good FA OL. Had to dump a 5th rounder to get the mighty Gabe Jackson. We all know about Jamal. So painful how they “build” this thing many times.

  26. Palatypus

    I don’t know why all the pundits are so surprised at how good the Cardinals are. All they did the last four years was the exact opposite of what the Seahawks did.

  27. Matt

    Watching the Cardinals continue to run their offense into the 4th quarter is such a breath of fresh air. “Ball control” and “bleeding the clock” are the dumbest things that PC likes to do.

    • Peter

      Rob mase mention of this many moons back but I too have grown weary of not just continuing to press. I don’t get this idea of pride in winning a close game on tge occasions the hawks have been winning. Just close the game out and maje the other yeam reelon their back foot.

    • AlaskaHawk

      The Seahawks have rarely displayed a killer instinct in closing games out.

    • IHeartTacoma

      It is the Card’s year. Man, I like DeAndre Hopkins.

  28. Ashish

    L J collier is not able to make it on active list. So much about 1st round draft picks

  29. Rob Staton

    Some Seahawks fans are open to trading Russell Wilson, despite probably watching this god awful Broncos team which has plenty of good pieces but is desperate for a QB

    • Big Mike

      You can even say that about Cleveland to a point. Baker is better than Teddy but he’s still turning it over way too often.

      • Rob Staton

        Can say it about more than half the league

        And people want to join that list

  30. cha

    Kicker warmups

    Meyers perfect up to 55 yards, both ends.

    Tried a 60 yarder to the south end, and it bounced off the crossbar just short.

    Boswell hitting from 53 both ends hasn’t tried any longer.

    Wind is calm at the moment.

    • Rob Staton

      You at the game?

      • cha


        • Rob Staton


          (if you can)

  31. Gaux Hawks

    Phil Haynes on the practice squad (he’s not listed on their website)?

  32. AlaskaHawk

    The Dallas/ New England game has been weird and wild. Dallas just pulled ahead with an interception run back into the end zone.

    • AlaskaHawk

      One play later and New England throws a 75 yard pass for touchdown.

  33. Paul Cook

    I love CeeDee Lamb. I wanted the Hawks to trade up and get him a few years ago. I saw him play at Oklahoma and he was such a gamer and playmaker.

  34. BobbyK

    How bad is tonight going to be?

    • Rob Staton

      Pretty bad

    • Big Mike

      I got it stealers 27, Hawks 13

    • Zane

      I suspect we win this one

  35. Big Mike

    No AL Michaels?

    • Rob Staton

      He took the week off

      Can’t blame him

  36. Rob Staton

    Russ, just go and sit the F down

    • Bmseattle

      Lol…he’s going to be annoying during this stretch, isnt he?

      • Rob Staton


    • Hawks4life

      With all due respect who cares what he’s doing, but I do know we’re not going to win with Gerald Everett running the ball lol

  37. Paul Cook

    We need some sackage on Big Ben tonight.

    • Bmseattle

      Easy now…this is a family friendly website.

  38. Zane

    It’s all going to come down to neutralizing their pass rush

  39. Rob Staton

    The whole double punt thing…

    A player kicked a football twice. On one play.

    I feel like the media has gone a little OT on this

    • Leo

      They need something to fill the time Rob, have to scrap the bottom of the barrel to make tonight seem exciting.

  40. Tony

    I think we pull this out today. But part of me wants to watch the world burn.

  41. Paul Cook

    JA doesn’t disappoint on the TV player introductions of the Hawks D.

  42. Tony

    Jamal seems happy atleast. I guess knowing your retirement is set would.make me happy too.

  43. Big Mike

    “I’m the best in the nation”.
    Bwa ha ha ha

    • Hawks4life

      My entire household is laughing about that one lmfao

    • Victor

      It’s a Trabis Ward reference. A former college RB player that was shot in 2020. His video went viral saying that quote.

  44. Troy

    Lol Jamal just doing peacock things, gotta hate it

    • Rob Staton

      It’s so him.

      • pdway

        i’m telling you – – you act like a star enough, and some will believe you are one…

    • Olyhawksfan

      So gross. I think he’s referring to LSU? Even if…just say LSU like a normal person. I really do not like this guy.

  45. Leo

    Thank god Taylor isn’t a bust at least, need something to look forward to this season

  46. Troy

    Taylor looking like he might be our best Dline draft pick since Frank Clark. LOVE HIS PRESSURE!

  47. Tony

    Taylor going off is my silver lining this year. I hope Alton, green, and some other young guys take that next step. But taylor looks like a future cornerstone.

  48. pdway

    pretty good open field tackle there by Minkah Fitzpatrick, your 84th ranked out of 85, safety this year.

    PFF has some flaws…

    • Rob Staton

      Maybe Minkah’s having a shit year too?

      • Tony

        Let’s trade jamal.for him then.

      • pdway

        maybe…but is he really the 2nd worst in the entire league?

        • Rob Staton

          Maybe he’s played that way, yes.

  49. AlaskaHawk

    I can’t believe they are putting Geno out there in an empty backfield. This is madness.

    OH yes, I take back everything I ever said bad about HOmer with his 27 yard reception and run.

  50. Rob Staton

    I interviewed Geno Smith once.

    I just remembered that

    • Shane

      Was it a good interview? Worth posting?

      • Rob Staton

        I remember him being very personable and friendly. Not sure I still have it saved anywhere. It was after one of the London games

  51. Paul Cook

    The announcers just said the Seahawks are playing tonight without their top two RB’s, and I’m thinking “top two…two?…what are they talking about…oh…yeah…Penny…I forgot”

  52. AlaskaHawk

    The three stooges strikes again. LOL

    • Rob Staton

      Just incredible

  53. OP_Chillin

    That just looked comically bad. Costing us 18 yards with that nonsense.

  54. Tony

    Our season in a nutshell.

  55. pdway

    wish we were the type of team to go for it on 4th and 5 from the 38….

    yes, even w Geno.

  56. OP_Chillin

    Rush 2, Drop 9, give up 8 yards.

    • Rob Staton

      The Seahawks way

    • Bmseattle

      An example of Norton’s “creativity “?

  57. Leo

    Has rushing 2 guys ever worked in the history of football?

    • Tony

      It works great for prevent defense and hail mary’s

    • Big Mike

      Has 3?

  58. pdway

    how does rushing 3 + jamal make any sense? It puts him against a legit NFL LT…he’s not beating that guy any day.

    • OP_Chillin

      I’ve seen him do it a few times. Notably against BUF he beat a pretty good LT straight up for a sack, which was pretty impressive.

  59. Rob Staton

    Big Ben is sooooooooooo bad

    • Tony

      Geno looks worlds better than him right now.

      • Rob Staton

        They both look like they should be sat on the sofa next to me

  60. OP_Chillin

    At least the game is going by quickly

    • Rob Staton

      Let’s play two quarters and call it a day

      • pdway

        it’s not exactly Browns/Chargers so far…

      • Bmseattle

        I’m not sure what the over/under was on this game…but I should have bet the under.

  61. James Kupihea

    Can we just Bench Adams for Neal please? I’d like to see a SS on the field once this game.

    • Hawks4life

      Hes the best in the nation haven’t you heard

    • Big Mike

      Hey now, he made a tackle on a RB (one tackle). Of course he wasn’t blocked but hey it’s a stat.

      • Rob Staton

        And Seattle lined up to all-out stop the run and he just chased the RB, who was running into a brick wall…

  62. Rob Staton

    At least we can put to bed the idea that it’s Wilson preventing the Seahawks from running a productive screen pass

    • OP_Chillin

      Geno’s at 50%. I don’t have the numbers, but something tells Russ’ success rate is… less than that.

    • pdway

      that was UGLY….

    • Bmseattle

      It seems like the pass rush didnt allow for good timing on that one.

  63. Gary

    What we are watching is the talent deficit that comes from 5+ years of horrible drafting, player acquisition, and roster construction finally catching up with them, and not having our MVP-calibre QB to cover it up. We are paying the piper now, eventually the bill always comes due. It’s not complicated, we just don’t have as many good players as other teams.

  64. Matt

    Seattle Sports Media: “where has this great defense been?”

    Uh…like last season, this defense performs better against inept Offenses. Are they really this confused?

  65. Rob Staton

    This is a terrible game of football

    • OP_Chillin

      Facts man. Offense showing consistency in their ability to do next to nothing for long stretches at a time.

    • Bmseattle


  66. Rob Staton

    What the hell was that clip of Wilson pretending to play

    My word

    • Gary

      “The separations in the preparation.”

      • Rob Staton

        The weirdness is in the weirdness

    • Bmseattle

      It’s like Ichiro showing up to the ballpark in uniform, after he retired.

    • Matthew

      Felt like I walked in on something private.

      • Rob Staton

        You’d be cringing less if it were your parents, Matthew

    • Olyhawksfan

      Can’t he do that behind closed doors? Soooooooo weird.

  67. Big Mike

    Norton calling the D for the stealers? I ask because they had a LB covering DK.

    • OP_Chillin

      It’s zone coverage man. LBs covering shallow zones will be the nearest guy to a WR very often in that scheme.

  68. Tony

    Getting beat by an 80yr old Roethlisberger is super depressing.

  69. Rob Staton

    Best in the nation there, blocked by a rookie TE in space

    • Rob Staton

      Then fluffs an interception

      • Matt

        Jamal couldn’t catch herpes at a brothel.

  70. Big Mike

    The peacock just got blocked into the 2nd row

    • James Kupihea

      the ball-hawking skills to boot LMFAO

  71. Leo

    Remember that awesome 2015 game in Seattle between these two sides? How far the mighty have fallen…

  72. OP_Chillin

    Jamal Adams not intercepting that pass was actually an ELITE play. Read on to find out why!

  73. Big Mike

    We see why Darrell Taylor doesn’t play WR, which is fine.

  74. OP_Chillin

    Now, Mayowa in MAN coverage against Harris is a mismatch.

    • Tony

      Brilliant call!

    • Big Mike


    • pdway

      I mean….wtf are they doing?

      that’s a ridiculous scheme to be running anywhere, let alone on the 5 yd line. What did we think was going to happen? Benson Mayowa was going to stay locked on coverage w a running back?

      no excuse man…

  75. Paul Cook

    Love that INT….Oooppss…by Adams…

  76. AlaskaHawk

    Looks like Pittsburg has found their offense. This could be a long day.

  77. Peter

    Guesses on adams accesory for the post game presser.

    Best guess gets to smack their head against their nearest wall.

    I’m hoping for a scepter and a king’s robe

    • Rob Staton

      He’ll probably choose not to speak to the media again

      What a leader

      • Peter

        Should just start his coffee mug

    • Big Mike

      A shirt with a map of the USA on it and the word “BEST” superimposed over it?

      • Peter

        I can painfully see it

  78. James Kupihea

    Hey Norton…the ball is probably going to Har…nvm send Jamal again.

  79. Robbie

    This defense is an absolute joke. How do you have Mayowa playing 1v1 on the RB.

    • pdway

      it’s crazy, and stupid, and so easily exploitable.

      KNJ does not deserve to have a job. All those Raiders fans were dead right about what they said when we brought him in.

    • Bmseattle

      You keep doing that…and it keeps not working.

  80. Thomas Wells

    I don’t know if any one play could better encapsulate what’s wrong with this franchise. Blitz the $70 million safety off the edge and put the journey man defensive end in coverage. Just fucking brilliant

  81. Matt

    Matty Brown midnight thread:

    “Actually Jamal getting washed out by that TE was assignment sound.”

    “Actually Jamal not catching that INT tip…”

    • Rob Staton


    • Bmseattle

      It’s going to be fun listening to Pete making excuse after excuse for him all season.

    • Big Mike

      Why can’t people just admit they’re wrong? We’re all wrong plenty. It doesn’t make you less of a man.

      • Bmseattle

        The more people invest in their original position, the less likely they will admit they were wrong.
        That’s we we see so much doubling and tripling down.
        Domt have to look far to see it, unfortunately.

      • pdway

        I for sure dragged my feet on the Jamal verdict…gave him lots of outs for last year….b/c I thought it was legit, and thought I saw flashes. This year….has been a f-ing disaster.

        • Rob Staton

          He certainly flashed last year, when they set the table for his 8-10 blitzes a game

  82. Nicholas M

    Benson Mayowa is the the furthest thing from a standup linebacker I’ve ever seen… yet he’s been out there doing it all game… I really don’t understand the Seattle defensive theory at all any more.

    • OP_Chillin

      He’s their starting SAM LB apparently.

  83. OP_Chillin

    Terrible blocking. Lewis should’ve cheated outside so Fuller could help if Hayward went inside.

  84. Rob Staton

    Another fantastic drive.

    We definitely don’t need Wilson any more.

    • Tony

      It’s not really on geno either. He’s been solid. But he’s not elite qb to hide all our other issues.

      • Rob Staton

        Absolutely. Geno Smith being totally out of his depth isn’t his fault. Not sure he’d be in the league if it wasn’t for us giving him a job.

    • Canadian Hawk

      Think the whole “Do they keep Pete or keep Russell” question has officially been put to bed.

  85. Bmseattle

    We absolutely cannot pass block in passing situations

    • pdway

      100%…been a weakness for years now.

    • Rob Staton

      Let’s add that to the list of things we can’t do

      (Orders more paper for the list)

    • Shane

      I have the solution. Resign Brown and sign some someone this offseason like Riley Reiff or Cam Robinson and move them to Center. Problem solved.

  86. Hawks4life

    What a brilliant play call on that 3rd down

  87. OP_Chillin

    The line is outmatched against a superior pass rush, but what is Shane Waldron bringing to this offense? It wouldn’t shock me if we had the same result so far WITH Russ, it would just look slightly different.

    • Bmseattle

      I think we’ve seen enough this year to conclude he isnt going to magically change our offense.
      Whether that’s because of his deficiencies or Pete’s…it doesn’t really matter.

    • Tony

      I’m not sure Waldron us allowed to do too much. This offense added a little presnap motion but it’s basically schottenheimers offense.

  88. Nick M


    • Nick M

      (It hurts that it’s true in all honesty)

    • Tony

      Could’ve gone Legion of Poo

  89. Paul Cook

    Honestly, and I really, sincerely mean this, 90% of the time I don’t know or understand what the hell we are doing on defense.

    • STTBM

      About 90% of the time, neither do the Seahawks…

  90. Matt

    I figured out Jamal’s “best in the nation” bit…

    (Small print) “at aggressive hand clapping.”

    • downtownjewelrybryan

      …at being overrated

      • pdway

        at self-promotion

  91. Bmseattle

    Meanwhile, we haven’t sacked the most immobile QB in the league.

  92. Leo

    We’re going to lose to the Jags, aren’t we…

    • Big Mike

      Pretty good chance

    • Tony

      Oh my God. That is the floor.

  93. KennyBadger

    Welcome to the blog Chris collinsworth.

  94. pdway

    feels like we are going to lose to this slightly-less-shitty than we are team….

  95. Ashish

    Defense started going down hill

  96. Troy

    No joy watching this team, not sure why I keep doing it…

  97. Kyle R

    This is just the lastest example of how this team needs to build in the trenches on both sides and needs new coaching and talent evaluation.

    • Big Mike


      • Kyle R

        I want to be the bully again. Pete and John clearly don’t know how to do that. They only built fake mouthy tough with this team. They are a mouthy boxer with a glass chin.

  98. Tony

    We could legit not pay anyone on defense and get a similar result. And invest it all in OL, and it’d help the nobody’s on defense.

  99. Brik

    Jamal actually hammers Najee. Hope it’s a turning point

    • James Kupihea

      He’s 100% lucky he wasn’t called for the helmet to helmet. He lead with the top of his %#$*( head, and is playing like an idiot.

      • downtownjewelrybryan

        best in the nation at leading with his head

        • Tony

          🤣🤣🤣🤣I’m dying on this.

    • Troy

      Should have been a penalty for helmet to helmet contact.

    • Shane

      and it was such a big hit that Najee barely felt it.

    • Big Mike

      Best play he’s made all season

    • STTBM

      I just want to get through this season with no major injuries, so Carrol can resign or “resign”, and maybe there will be a single day of hope again…

  100. OP_Chillin

    A barren wasteland of football so far. Personally, there’s not much reason to watch this team without Russ playing. Not even a chance of excitement.

  101. Troy

    I have no emotion watching this team play. Poor tackling, dumb penalties, no creativity, no toughness.

    • Big Mike

      I quit caring before the last game

    • Tony

      Obliterate them, scorched earth style. Only way pete will leave. Knowing it’s 100% him.

  102. Palatypus

    This touchdown has been brought to you by Woodinville Whiskey. Woodinville Whiskey. Whether it’s straight, bourbon or rye you’ll feel like you’re about to die.
    Find it at a liquor store near you.

    • pdway

      got that right.

      Let’s play a game where we drink every time they cut away to Russell on the sideline….

      • Paul Cook


  103. downtownjewelrybryan

    last time we got whooped by pittsburgh, JS said that wasn’t gonna happen again

  104. SeaTown

    I’ve been a fan since 1977. I’ve seen it all. This football is, by far, worse than anything in the 1990s, which is generally referred to as the lost decade. It’s time for PC/JS to move on. It’s over.

    • Tony

      Put RW on those 90s teams and I bet they are playoff possible.

    • Palatypus

      Geno Smith is way better than Rick Mirrer.

  105. Leo

    Can some reporter do their job and actually try to figure what our ownership situation is? Is there someone at the wheel? Are we even looking? We deserve to know. We’re a ship lost at sea without a captain right now.

    • downtownjewelrybryan

      i got $10 on a gofundme to send rob to do an investigation

  106. STTBM

    Seattle’s entire coaching staff has no clue….

    But we didn’t need to replace Norton with Bradley or Quinn….

    And such a great move firing Kris Richard. What an upgrade Norton is….

    Good move letting Robert Daley go…we don’t need him, we’ve got Ken Norton and his “creativity”…

  107. 12th chuck

    lack of offense again. no surprise there, don’t need Wilson, not sure he would’ve made a difference. Why doesn’t Pete get it? 3rd and 8+, throw the ball behind the line of scrimmage. I will chalk this as a wasted year of Lockette, DK and Wilson. what a shame

  108. STTBM

    Saleh not Daley…..sigh…

  109. Vanhawksfan

    I wish that Jamal Adams made the plays on the field that he acts like he made on the sidelines

  110. OP_Chillin

    Who is Duane Brown mad at? You got beat dude. Unless Collins was supposed to block that LB?

  111. Bmseattle

    Geno has had more passes knocked down this game than Russ has all season.

  112. Palatypus

    This sack has been brought to you by Rolling Rock Pale Ale.
    Giving Yinzers bedspins since 1939.
    So when the Steelers get a sack, knock a schooner back!
    Latrobe Brewing Company, Latrobe Pennsylvania.

  113. OP_Chillin

    Dickson’s punting has been awful so far this game

  114. Paul Cook

    You know we’re in trouble when our punter is not even having a good game.

  115. Leo

    Rob and Robbie should just do their livestream during the 2nd half so that Rob can get some sleep and we’ll have something worth watching

    • Hawk Finn


    • Shane

      I would prefer to listen to that then Collinsworth

  116. Matthew

    This is the kind of clarity needed, and why Wilson’s injury can be a positive. Hopefully it’s informing the right people, whoever that may be.

  117. Gary

    Does Jets’ management watch Seahawks games?

    • Big Mike

      You know they’re laughing at Pete John about now

      • Big Mike

        And you know plenty of other executives around the league are as well

  118. SeaTown

    I hope the “we don’t need Russell Wilson” clowns are taking a good hard look at what the post Wilson team will look like.

    • Hawks4life

      Agreed. We absolutely need Wilson with a team like this. I’ll be shocked if we get 3 points tonight

    • Big Mike

      Don’t hold your breath ST

    • 12th chuck

      I am not trade russ, but I don’t think he would’ve made a difference to be honest

      • Big Mike

        He wouldn’t have been able to generate more than 65 yd of offense? Whatever

        • 12th chuck

          not much difference to be honest. It isn’t a shot at Russ, but at everything else. How many years do we as fans have to watch a lack of pass rush, lack of offense execution, and paly calling etc.

    • Palatypus

      Woodrow Wilson = “He kept us out of war.”
      Russell Wilson = “He kept us in the playoffs.”

  119. 12th chuck

    this is embarrassing. fire Pete now

  120. Tony

    Well I wanted to see geno to see actual proof it’s not on RW. And I got my answer. Sweet.

  121. Brik

    Stealers are a notoriously good defense. Not sure why Geno isn’t letting it rip like last game. He actually looks scared to be himself right now. PC must be stopping him from letting it fly

    • Big Mike

      stealers #12 defense coming in

    • Big Mike

      But yeah, it’s Pete. You couldn’t be wrong.

      • Brik

        Glad you’re never a sarcastic person Big Mike, it shows how intelligent you are

    • Peter

      With respect letting it rip is a short third round qb destroying kc in a preseason game erases matt flynn’s prospects of ever playing for seattle.

      10/17 122 yds and a 1td/1int is not that

      • Brik

        I’m honestly not understanding what you’re saying. Geno is 6’3″

        • Peter

          I’m saying geno didn’t let it rip. He just played okay for a half. Whereas wilson has actually taken teams apart by himself

  122. Peter

    On the note of the “team russ vs. Team geno,” nonsense….i for one have no desire to see geno fail.

    If i’ve been cynical it’s the team. It has nothing for me to do with who is the QB. I’ve just tjought for some years now that Russel has been carrying this team.

    Side note. If seattle loses to JAX…..does pc head on down to USC?

  123. TJ

    From legion of boom to legion of gloom, what the hell has happened to our team?

  124. Aaron

    Current Seahawks with Russ: A bottom third team
    Current Seahawks without Russ: A bottom five team

    Bottom tier is bottom tier. The longer this drags out the more tarnished Pete’s time here will be. Stop competing to stay out there Pete. It’s time to hang it up. Thank you for Super Bowl 48.

    • Big Mike

      I agree with us. We’re merely bad with Wilson we’re horrific without him

  125. King Felix

    I’m so ready for a fresh start at coaching. I’ll always love Pete for what he did for this franchise, but a change is overdue at this point.

    I’m undecided on keeping Schneider, it really depends on how much Pete has influenced some of the more head scratching moves(Adams trade).

    There’s zero chance I trade Russ with what the upcoming QB draft looks. Give him a chance of totally running the show with an offensive minded head coach and a good pass blocking line and see what happens. If it fails, it fails. But I like those chances better than trying to find a new franchise QB.

  126. OP_Chillin

    Joe Fann just made the point that trading Russ (hypothetical) would be to recoup the losses from the Jamal Adams trade. Framing it that way just makes it seem so much worse.

    • Peter

      Lets just get a 2nd rounder eat cap and never speak of adams again….

      The other framing is gross. But accurate

    • Big Mike

      I’m crying now.

  127. BobbyK

    For the younger generation of Seahawks fans who can’t remember the 1990s…

    This first half was it. That’s your 1990s Seahawks. It was a bad decade. Lots of bums at QB and a bad overall team around them minus a few stars here and there.

    We’ve seen Damien Lewis get worse this year because of coaching decisions. How does a RG in college and RG as a rookie get moved to LG? Seriously? He looked so much better this year and now he’s not good at all. Players are supposed to get better in year two. It’s natural. Except Pete moves him to where he’s never really played. Great job, Pete.

    Anyone else think these coaching geniuses are going to run Mayowa out at CB to start the half? I wouldn’t put it past them. Tre Brown makes a few nice plays but they get him out of there. Gotta love the coaching that doesn’t seem to play the best players.

    This is about as ugly as I feared it would be and there’s a half to go. Back to the Future of watching my 1990s Seahawks again. But instead of Tez to at least put up some fight on the LOS, we get a Peacock who makes a good hit and celebrates like it’s his team winning big.

    At least we can look forward to our top 10 draft pick. Or something.

    • Peter

      Mark glowinski would like to know the answer to you’re first question

  128. Palatypus

    If they win this game it will be the greatest comeback since the Jaguars beat the Dolphins in London this morning.

    BTW Rob, how’s the smell?

  129. Paul Cook

    The Alex Collins drive…

  130. Leo

    Chris Carson would have broke down by now if they gave him this many carries in a drive.

  131. OP_Chillin

    Cool the offense works if we can legitimately run it damn near every play

  132. Tony

    Rob, atleast you can fire out that game review early. I’m sure there’s no amazing comeback ensuing. Despite these runs by collins.

    • Rob Staton

      It’s written

      That was a productive half-time

      • Tony

        There are positives to a bad team!

  133. Tony

    Collins putting carsons carries in jeopardy if he comes back.

  134. BobbyK

    Where did that (impressive) drive come from? That’s some power running that would be fun to watch consistently. Shocked the crap out of me. Can they keep it up? PLEASE?!?!

    • Paul Cook

      I had a brief Marshawn Lynch flashback.

    • OP_Chillin

      Unfortunately Bobby, the Defense has to take the field now.

  135. uptop

    What we’ve needed for years in the running game:


  136. AlaskaHawk

    If Geno Smith makes this team develop a running game – it was worth it!

  137. Big Mike

    One of the few bright spots of this season is most definitely Alex Collins. Hopefully a new regime can draft a guy like Jonathon Taylor to pair him with next year.

    • Tony

      Or chubb!

  138. Tony

    Sydney Jones ability to be always injured is a shame. I hope he can find a way to stay on field.

  139. OP_Chillin

    Why is Jamal Adams wrecking our own damn players?!?

  140. Paul Cook

    It’s such a drag when you don’t have playmakers on defense. Darrell Taylor is the closest thing we have to one now.

    • Big Mike

      Best in the nation “almost” got a sack on their QB.

      • Troy

        Can’t forget his almost INT as well! Dude is elite at almost plays!!!

        • Big Mike


  141. Troy

    Adams…late on the blitz. Adams, blowing up his own team mate (again). Fuck me I’ve never disliked a seahawk player more

    • SeaTown

      Exactly. I can’t stand the peacock.

  142. OP_Chillin

    Bloody hell do we have DEs dropping into coverage on half the damn snaps?

  143. Leo

    I’ve never seen someone smash his own teammates more than Jamal Adams has in six games. It’s incredibly poignant, hurting his own team with pointless flashy plays.

  144. KennyBadger

    Ryan Neal > Puke Adams

    • Big Mike

      Within the Seattle system, yes he is.

  145. Rob Staton


    Why do they insist on using sky cam for returns?

    You never know how good a return is, or where the player is

    • OP_Chillin

      It annoys me as well!

  146. OP_Chillin

    Lockett is wide open on these sweeps.

    • Big Mike

      There ya go

    • Troy

      Time for the defense to do its thing and let Pittsburgh march right down the field for a TD. Book it!!

  147. Rob Staton

    It’s an offensive explosion

    • Palatypus

      Well, it’s offensive.

    • OP_Chillin

      Defense needs to step the eff up and get a turnover or force a quick punt

    • STTBM

      Lol! Sadly,it is for us this year…

  148. Paul Cook

    Play action actually works when the other team has to respect your running game.

  149. Bmseattle

    Where was DK that drive.
    Is he hurt?😬

  150. Matt

    And we get the Hawkblogger routine going now…”I’m not a Russ hater…”

  151. Troy

    Is there a more bi polar offense in the NFL? I don’t understand this team at all…

  152. Paul Cook

    Can the D actually get inspired and get to it now?

  153. 12th chuck

    alex collins has better vision that carson

    • Big Mike

      Definitely quicker feet and quicker to the hole

  154. Tony

    Power runs and PlayStation with TEs, man I wish our starting qb had this type of offense!

    • Tony

      Play action***

  155. OP_Chillin

    Heck yeah! Taylor with an excellent rush.

    • Bmseattle

      Soooooo good

    • Big Mike

      So happy to have been wrong about him

  156. Rob Staton

    Well now

  157. Hawks4life

    DJ Reed is playing well tonight gotta love that

    • 12th chuck

      its nice to see the corners getting some p.b.u.

      • Bmseattle

        Both Reed and Brown can actually cover

  158. OP_Chillin

    Now hit them with a GOOD screen play 🙂

  159. STTBM

    Darrell Taylor! Been looking for him since Clemons left….Clark was it for two years, then nothing till now…

  160. Bmseattle

    Can Geno avoid the untimely turnover?

  161. Palatypus

    “Look out! Seattle Seahawks with a chance!” – Chris Collinsworth.

    “So, you’re saying….there is a chance!” – Lloyd Christmas.

    • 12th chuck

      i thought that was Pete during a press conference lol

  162. pdway

    how many players down on the hawks do you go before you say i wouldn’t trade that guy’s future career, before you get to Taylor?

    Is it Russell, DK….and maybe that’s it?

  163. Paul Cook

    I noticed this very early this season, but Darrell Taylor has LEGITIMATE defensive end rush moves which make him formidable. Use him that way. Almost always.

  164. Matt

    Glad we bring back all the presnap motion when RW is hurt…so GD annoying.

  165. OP_Chillin

    Geno, come on man you gotta hit that was an easy throw.

    • Big Mike

      Poor throw.

  166. Bmseattle

    Collins seems quicker, but less powerful.
    Not really a tackle breaker.

  167. OP_Chillin


    • Big Mike

      Well, when your o-line is owning theirs d-line, why not? Those are big holes being opened up.

      • OP_Chillin

        I’m just shocked that they ran on 3rd and 7 and that it worked so well. :O

      • James Kupihea

        All this on the 3rd and 4th RB…

        • Big Mike

          AC is “3rd RB” in name only. 1B in my eyes.

          • James Kupihea

            Point being, we were calling for Collins to at least be the #2 since the off-season.

      • Bmseattle

        …and when they are selling out to rush the passer.

    • Tony

      Steelers see homer in, immediately think pass. Pete had 3 yrs of planning into that one.

  168. STTBM

    Both teams defenses duking it out for Worst in the League.

  169. Troy

    We just converted a 3rd and 7 by running the ball…what fucking universe is this

  170. Palatypus

    You know, bringing out Bill Cowher’s HOF bust and giving him the ring just might have cursed Pittsburgh in front of the Football Gods tonight.

    They should give that ring to Mike Holmgren so he knows how it feels.

    • Big Mike


  171. Paul Cook

    You gotta admit, this is a where-in-the-eff-has-that-been half running the ball.

  172. SeaTown

    As a fan of the team, you love what you saw in the 3rd Q. Sadly though this success will only embolden PC to stick with his 1970s offense. We are wining the battle but losing the war.

  173. OP_Chillin

    Run it and go for it on fourth down you cowards god dammit

    • AlaskaHawk

      Safer to rely on the running game rather than Geno Smith completing a pass.

  174. Big Mike

    Gotta give rdit to their D on that. Owned that play everywhere

    • OP_Chillin

      Everett was open but idk if I trust Geno to make that throw. Probably a good decision to eat the sack

      • Big Mike

        Not sure he had tie for a 2nd read tho. Dissly was #1 and covered and then he was swarmed,

        • Big Mike


      • Paul Cook

        Agree. Pitt had that play well covered and accounted for.

      • Bmseattle

        Weird to say, but yeah…the 14 yard sack was the smart play.

  175. STTBM

    Bad play call, Geno should have audible out of a slow developing play when it became obvious Pitt was blitzing. Wilson scores a TD there….

    • Big Mike

      I’d like to think you’re correct

      • STTBM

        You HAVE to audible out of that play to a quick-hitting run or pass. Anything but let a slow-play go forward when you sense blitz. At worst its an incomplete with Wilson…with a chance on going for it on fourth down…a big mistake by Geno…

  176. Palatypus

    NBC blacked out here in Florida on COX Cable for about five minutes. Next thing I know we are in the red zone.

    • Big Mike

      Trying desperately not to make Florida joke……………

      • Bmseattle

        And yet…you did!😏

        • Big Mike

          Oh………so I did. 😅

  177. Blitzy the Clown

    Jamarco Jones is having a nice game at LG. He’s a big part of Collins’ monster 3rd qtr.

    And DJ Reed. Solid game tonight.

  178. Big Mike

    Peacock owned

  179. Paul Cook

    Even when JA makes a hard
    tackle, he tackles the runner forward. LOL

  180. Rob Staton

    Big Ben LOL

  181. Hawks4life

    That’s a fumble

  182. Palatypus

    Watching Jamal Adams try to tackle Najee Harris is like watching Tyrion Lannister try to tackle The Mountain.

  183. Seahawkwalt

    Fumble babyy….

  184. OP_Chillin

    That HAS to be a fumble!!

    • Rob Staton

      If it’s not a fumble this is a really stupid game

      He literally goes to control it with his other hand (to reset) and drops it

      • Bmseattle


  185. Big Mike

    Me thinks we gonna get screwed here.

    • Palatypus

      There are a million ways for the zebras to point shave.

    • Bmseattle

      I’ve got that feeling as well. Our history with the refs and Pittsburgh isnt good.

  186. downtownjewelrybryan

    will we get screwed against the rothlisberger again?

    • Palatypus

      Two words: Rooney Mara.

  187. Big Mike

    They are iterally desperately trying to figure out how to explain away them keeping the ball right now

    • Big Mike

      VERY happy to be wrong

  188. Palatypus

    Roethlisberger thought bubble: “Wait, I’m supposed to get that call.”

  189. OP_Chillin

    Uhh if they punt this back and PIT drives for a score with no time left :/

  190. Seahawkwalt

    Here come the flags….

    • Bmseattle

      Refs are pissed at pete for showing them up

      • STTBM

        Its their own fault. Love how they said “after further review, the call on the field is a fumble”…. Whaaa? That’s “call on the field of an incomplete pass is reversed” , morons!

  191. Rob Staton

    I can’t remember the last time Seattle ran the ball this well or this easily

    • Rob Staton

      So of course… two passes, a loss of yards, out of FG range

      • Rob Staton

        And another poor punt from Dickson

  192. Big Mike

    OK, the refs will fix this for the stealers

  193. OP_Chillin

    How many balls is Geno going to get batted tonight? This is ridiculous

    • 12th chuck

      you would think after the 3rd one, they would roll him out of the pocket

  194. OP_Chillin

    TERRIBLE. Absolutely fking terrible

  195. Hawks4life

    Why do we continue to call those plays on 3rd and long

  196. STTBM

    Defeat from the jaws of victory…WTF offense was that?!

    • Big Mike

      NFL referees drive

  197. Palatypus

    Chris Collinsworth just told us to do an illegal chop block on T.J. Watt.

    • OP_Chillin

      Cut block, not chop block

      • Palatypus

        Not the way I heard it.

  198. Blitzy the Clown

    Where’s the holding? Terrible phantom call and changed the drive.

    Even so, Jamarco Jones is having himself a night.

  199. Big Mike

    The end of that drive is TOTALLY a product of a bad holding call made to help the stealers. FUCK YOU NFL!!!!

  200. Tony

    Critical play needed. Let’s go to our bread and butter screen play!

  201. DC

    Why aren’t we throwing to DK instead? Baffling

    • OP_Chillin

      Instead they’re throwing garbage screens. A six yard slant would’ve given us a shot at a FG. Not that I trust Myers much tbh.

    • Rob Staton

      On a slant

  202. Bmseattle

    Meanwhile, the Steelers *never* hold

  203. pdway

    bad time for Dickson to have the worst game of his career

  204. Paul Cook

    If we lose this game after this running performance in the second half, it will be terribly disheartening.

  205. Mick

    OK I expected worse, hopefully they don’t blow it now…

  206. OP_Chillin

    Gosh we are lucky the Steelers O is bad. Rushed 3 there and zero pressure when they just put in a backup LT.

  207. Palatypus

    They should just put Big Ben out there in a wheelchair so that they always get the “defenseless player” call.

    • Rob Staton

      He looks like he’d rather be sat in a chair right now

  208. Tony

    Man I really hope we throw a screen here. They’ll never expect it!

    • Big Mike

      there it is

      • Tony

        Someone’s pressing the ask madden button on offense

  209. Mick

    Who had the bright idea of having Tyler return punts?

    • Rob Staton

      Probably want to get the ball in his hands — because Geno is starting to look like a dear in headlights

  210. Rob Staton

    Well, that was all too predictable

  211. STTBM

    To the well a few too many times…same old Pete Carrol Offense…

    • 12th chuck

      too many throws behind the line of scrimmage

  212. Palatypus

    Was that Colby Parkinson in there split wide?

  213. Mick

    Bad thing about Russ not playing is that he’s able to observe with a clear head how bad our decision-making is.

  214. Tony

    Yes! More screens! We need to force that shit till it works!

    • Rob Staton

      To me it’s indicative of how little trust they have in the QB.

      Playing not to lose

      • Tony

        You would think this mentality is the mentality of losers.

        • Troy

          Pete Carroll ball. He trusts his defense. We all know how this is going to end..

  215. OP_Chillin

    Uhh. Is this the most screens we’ve thrown in a game?

  216. STTBM

    Why no quick hit passes past the line of scrimmage for Geno? Even TJack had a longer rope than Seattle giving Geno…

  217. Big Mike

    The NFL doesn’t even try to hide their favoritism and cheating for the stealers do they?
    (yes, I’m still livid)

  218. Mick

    If Pittsburgh puts 3 points on the board, we’ll have a hard time scoring.

  219. Bmseattle

    Can we try a deep shot at least once tonigh?

    • OP_Chillin

      Might not get the ball back.

    • Leo

      Do you trust Geno to stand and deliver? He’s playing scared right now

      • Bmseattle

        Well, I dont really trust him to do much. I just want to give our best players a chance to make a play. DK and Lockett havent been used enough tonight.

  220. Big Mike

    No, not Taylor please

    • James Kupihea

      His season should immediately end. #2021 Season 🙁 Hope he’s okay otherwise.

  221. Tony

    lovers. Taylor down. I hate you 2021 season.

    • BobbyK

      No doubt. This sucks. For him. For the team. This just sucks – one of our only decent young, talented cost effective players. But most importantly, for him and his life.

  222. STTBM

    Taylor hurt….no no no no!

  223. Kyle R

    This is the year where the 49ers had everyone hurt and out for long lengths of time and they had a terrible record. At least they got Bosa out of it so we can look forward to something like that……oh wait…

  224. Bmseattle

    This is awful.
    I really hope he’s ok

    • Mick

      I don’t care about this game anymore, I hope they’re just being cautious and he’ll be fine.

    • Bmseattle

      I thought he was moving his legs.
      Hopefully this is just precautionary.

      • Tony

        Avril walked off field.

  225. Palatypus

    He was moving his legs. Good sign.

    That doesn’t mean he will play football again – Cliff Avril, Kam Chancellor…

    • Bmseattle


  226. Tony

    So those looks on field have a career ending feel. Just awful. Hawks are cursed with career ending neck injuries to great players. Taylor has that look of being great.

    • Big Mike


  227. 12th chuck


  228. Tony

    Please don’t end his career. I’m sick watching this.

  229. uptop

    The big bright spot of the season. Absolutely brutal. I don’t think this is a career ender, he was moving arms and legs but this can really hurt his psyche.

    • Tony

      Both teams on field and like a 10 min delay. Scares the shit out of me.

    • Big Mike

      “The big bright spot of the season”
      Agree. Very deflating

  230. Big Mike

    Pete and his clock mgmt. Why would you not use a time out before the 2:00?

    • Bmseattle

      He still doesnt understand you have to use your timeouts on defense.
      And calling it before tje 2 minute warning is just coaching 101.

      • Paul Cook

        Don’t get me started on PC clock management.

  231. Troy

    Game over. Running it down our throats…

  232. Hawk Finn

    Al Woods wagging his finger…after giving up 5 yards

  233. STTBM

    I’ve seen most of the NFL worst injuries since I saw Theisman….live. I have horrible luck in that regard. I’m praying its just precautionary and Taylor is ok…

  234. OP_Chillin


    • Hawks4life

      Hes clueless out there lmfao

  235. Big Mike


  236. Kyle R

    Fucking Adams you piece of shit!

  237. Bmseattle

    Is it possible to be laughing and pissed at the same time?

  238. SeaTown

    I have no words. WTF PEACOCK?

  239. Troy

    Jamal Adams. Game Changer

    • Mac

      The ball was the game changer…. Adams is not.

  240. Leo

    It hit you in the fucking face Jamal, useless lump

  241. James Kupihea

    33 Showing elite ball skills yet again…

  242. Mick

    I bet Adam Gase is rolling on the floor laughing right now

    • Big Mike

      You know the Jets’ GM is.

  243. Big Mike

    “Best in the nation”
    What an absolute freaking joke of a player

  244. DC

    Some one please tell me what just happened, only getting play updates from ESPN.

    • Big Mike

      Peacock had a sure interception doink off his hands and face

  245. KennyBadger

    Nice catch puke.

  246. Tony

    When we lose, I hope he gets crucified at the podium about his shit ability to catch a ball.

    • Leo

      Remember last year when everyone said he couldn’t catch because of his finger injury?

      • Tony

        Yes. And it better come up in full force.

  247. SeaTown

    Multiple first rounders. 17 million per. Bought that.

    • Big Mike

      You left out the 3rd rounder

      • Bmseattle

        You left out McDougal

        • Big Mike


  248. Bmseattle

    Adams could have won us the game there.
    Just terrible.

  249. DC

    How bad does Peacock have to play to get benched for Neal, for Pete to send him a message? Literally asking. I doubt Pete would ever bench him.

  250. OP_Chillin

    Geno!? 3 yard gains in the middle of the field

  251. Tony

    Pete clock management vs adams ball skills

    Who wins that deathmatch.

  252. OP_Chillin

    I have ZERO faith in Myers here

  253. OP_Chillin

    What the hell?!?! DK why did you not just go the out of bounds?!?

    • Bmseattle

      Total bonehead play by him

    • Seahawkwalt


  254. Big Mike

    we fucking BETTER have 1 second refs

  255. Troy

    What the fuck is DK Metcalf doing? STUPID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  256. James Kupihea

    Dumbass DK….

  257. Pran

    What a dumb play by DK

  258. Mick

    Are you kidding me?

  259. Denver Hawker

    Is it just me or do the Seahawks have an abundance of weird plays, big mental gaffs, or obscure rule issues?

    • DC

      All those come down to poor coaching

  260. Big Mike

    terrible awareness by Metcalf. Horrible

  261. Palatypus

    Does anyone need some whiskey?

    • Big Mike


      • Palatypus

        Not here in Florida.

      • Paul Cook

        LOL Just poured an Absolut on the rocks.

  262. Mick

    Yey Myers. But I don’t trust our team to get anything from this.

    • James Kupihea

      You’ve got nothing else to trust right now lol. Lets go #2021 Shithawks.

  263. Leo

    Fumbled twice on that drive and somehow still alive, classic Hawks

  264. Pran

    Let me just day this..
    Even as so so is Geno is, offense played better 2nd half than with Russ all season.
    At the same time, Russ will make a great OC.

    • Mick

      Can’t help wonder how it would have been with Russ on the pitch against a weak Steelers D. Can’t compare, and Geno played at most average.

      • 12th chuck

        don’t think much would’ve changed from the first half, but he would’ve went deep after running so well in the 2nd

    • OP_Chillin

      Nooo we’ve definitely had halves where the offense was better. Also note we were running the ball more successfully this game than we have any game since the Colts game. That first TD drive Geno only threw a single WR screen pass and the rest were runs.

    • Big Mike

      They played better cuz the offensive line played better. Best run blocking of the season.

    • Matt

      Crazy what happens when they get more presnap motion and creative in the run game.

  265. Bmseattle

    Is taking the ball the smart move there?

    • OP_Chillin

      In OT I think it’s always the right move.

    • Palatypus

      “We want the ball and we’re going to score!”

      • Big Mike

        another one that still hurts, nt badly but a little bit anyway

  266. MattG

    Classy of Russ to be out there coaching Luton on the finer points of calling the coin toss.

    • Palatypus

      I think he is the captain. Otherwise, he cannot.

  267. Tony

    Only the hawks can win a game and have me feeling like we got blown out. This team lives to destroy its fanbase. They refuse to do anything easy.

  268. Big Mike

    Collins out?

    • Tony

      Run game left with him

      • Big Mike

        and Damien Lewis

  269. OP_Chillin

    Steelers getting better against the run

  270. Tony

    This game deserves a tie. I hate this game.

  271. Seahawkwalt

    Where’s Collins?

    • Big Mike

      Gotta be dinged……….right?

  272. Mick

    At least everyone who got excited about Geno and said he’s better than Russ will have a reason to shut up.

    • Big Mike

      you really think they will?

      • Big Mike

        see below this post

    • OP_Chillin

      I doubt Russ would have attempted that throw over the middle to Lockett. Also may have gotten sacked the same as Geno there

    • Tony

      Wait, people think he’s better than russ?!

      • Matt

        A lot of fans actually think this. Today was about as well as Geno can play and everyone would have roasted RW for the performance.

    • AlaskaHawk

      All Geno proves is that any half way decent quarterback can work this offense.

      • OP_Chillin

        BTW geno has not been good today. Barely serviceable imo

      • Matt

        They scored 20 points…against a bad team.

        Quite the take away.

  273. AlaskaHawk

    Hmm that last play with Geno getting tackled on the drop looked just like a Wilson play.

    • Bmseattle

      Shell vs watt one on one?

  274. Seahawkwalt

    Yes!! Great tackler Brown!!!

    • OP_Chillin

      Awesome play!

  275. Big Mike

    Hey Jamal, THAT’S a tackle!

  276. Blitzy the Clown

    Tre Brown!

  277. Paul Cook

    JA and Tre Brown with two great tackles.

  278. OP_Chillin

    Geno with a garbage play to lose the game.

    • Bmseattle

      Hes just gonna turn it over at some point.
      He always has.

  279. Paul Cook

    Lose this effing game on a dumb fumble play.

  280. AlaskaHawk

    OOPSEY, well that didn’t end well. Who could have guessed that ending? Other than everybody?

  281. Mick

    If I’m Pittsburgh I kick it straight away.

  282. Big Mike


  283. Tony

    Geno. The anti russ. Clutch with the loss.

    • OP_Chillin

      Two games in a row losing it on a turnover. This one was 100% on him.

  284. Leo

    TJ Watt won that game by himself in overtime while Jamal dropped the interception. That was really the difference, both QBs were trash as expected, but their blue-chipper actually earned his salary.

    • 12th chuck

      adams needs to take tackling lessons from the rookie smh

  285. Tony

    How come our highest paid defensive player doesn’t make those game winning plays. We need to draft that tj watt guy. And not trade for that Jamal adams guy. Someone should tell the seahawks that.

  286. dan

    Seahawks just dont know how to properly use Jamal.

    Did you see his hyper celebration with Brown after the tackle?

    He’s the super elite cheerleader: PC needs to put him on the sidelong and give him some pompoms.

    • Big Mike

      post of the day

  287. BobbyK

    TJ Watt = Winner

    Jamal Adams = Loser

    Both had chances to do what they’re paid handsomely to do and only one was man enough to get it done.

    Overshadowed by TJ Watt was the unbelievable performance by Tre Brown on that 3rd down play to give Geno a chance (to lose). That was a man’s man play (like Watt continually did late).

    I’m going to go ride my ATV now…

    • 12th chuck

      agree 100%

  288. Olyhawksfan

    I cannot get over that missed interception by Adams. If he didn’t have a helmet on it would have broken his nose. Best in the nation?! CATCH THE F’ING FOOTBALL!!!

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