Curtis Allen’s week four watch notes (vs Giants)

October 2nd, 2023 | Written by Rob Staton

This is a guest article by Curtis Allen…

Here comes a very interesting matchup for the Seahawks — and on Monday Night Football no less.

The Giants in many ways have been similar to the Seahawks in recent seasons. Both have been on a mission to rebuild their lines in the trenches, they have both had a challenge properly utilizing the talent they have with their scheme and both reside in that good-but-not-great tier of the NFC. They finished with nearly identical records and claimed a Wild Card spot last year.

It is no wonder that when they play, it is a hard-fought but ultimately frustrating experience for both sides. The Seahawks won last year on the strength of a reborn pass rush, containing Saquon Barkley and making less mistakes than the Giants did. The Giants won in 2021 by riding a tough defense, some explosive plays in the running game and the Seahawks took their turn making mistakes with some questionable play calls.

The similarities continue this year. Both teams are struggling with their young offensive tackles. Injuries have forced backups onto the field for both more than they’d like. Defense has been a real challenge so far for both (Seahawks are 29th in scoring defense and the Giants are a surprising 30th). Both have recorded wins this year by the skin of their teeth against poor teams playing better than they should be allowed to.

The biggest difference? Offense. Seattle has had their struggles in the run game and fully integrating new additions Jaxon Smith-Njigba and Jake Bobo — but they are still scoring at a very healthy pace and currently sit at fourth in the NFL in scoring offense. The Giants? They are 31st. A combination of injuries, poor offensive line play and an uncharacteristic bout of mistakes (penalties and turnovers) have them stuck in the mud.

30th on defense. 31st on offense. Banged up and there is a good chance their two best offensive players (All-Pro Left Tackle Andrew Thomas has been ruled out and Saquon Barkley is currently doubtful and a game-time decision) will not factor much in this game.

Just like last week, this is a trap game masquerading as an easy win for the Seahawks.

What can they do to go into their bye week with a win and some real momentum?

Own the Line of Scrimmage on Both Sides

I know how that sounds. The Seahawks have had struggles in the trenches for years and still have yet to fully overcome them and the Giants as an organization have always counted on that as a strength of their team. Yet there is a real opportunity here to control this game by winning where it really counts.

On defense, this Seahawks line is trending slightly upwards after their best performance of the year to date last week against Carolina. Before we get too excited about that, let’s temper things just a little bit.

They generated zero sacks and only three pressures Week One against the Rams. In Week Two, they improved with two sacks and ten pressures.

Last week, three sacks and another ten pressures. However, those numbers were generated in fifty-eight pass attempts by Andy Dalton and the Panthers — behind one of the worst offensive lines in the NFL.

Three sacks and 10 pressures only meant a 16% pressure rate on Andy Dalton. While Jarran Reed deserves every bit of credit for having a fantastically gritty game, the stats the pass rush unit as a group produced were at best ‘as expected’ when you consider the volume and quality of opportunities they were given. They cannot be satisfied. More is required. Much more.

Thankfully, this week they play what may be the real Worst Offensive Line in the NFL, particularly with Thomas out. Have a look at how the Giants’ projected starters are rated by PFF in pass protection so far this season:

Those numbers are subterranean. Evan Neal is a particular disappointment. PFF graded him a 28 in pass-blocking last year and so far this year he is not much better.

If there were ever a game where the Seahawks should be able to flex their muscle and put pressure on the quarterback without resorting to blitzes, stunts and other tricks, this would be it. Three sacks and ten pressures are a minimum expectation for this game. Particularly when you consider that Barkley either will not play, or will be hampered by injury.

Now on offense, this one might be even better news for the Seahawks.

What has traditionally been a stout Giants defensive line group has been absolutely dreadful this season. They have plenty of talent on the line but the results so far are disturbingly bad.

They have two sacks so far in three games. Two. Chicago was the only NFL team going into week four that is worse, with one.

What about pressure?

This one might be even more shocking. They are only generating 16.7% pressure after three games, good for 29th in the NFL. They were sixth overall last year in generating pressure.

What is worse? They are blitzing on a crazy 53% of snaps and still getting almost nothing. The drop in effectiveness is simply stunning.

Kayvon Thibodeaux has been particularly poor so far, with only a sack and two pressures in three games — good for a putrid 36.6 PFF grade.

It is no wonder their defense is so bad this year.

Yet they do have something to hang their hat on, like rushing defense, right? Nope. They are 28th in the NFL in rush defense, conceding an average of 138 rushing yards per game through three so far.

The run charts are fascinating. There is no pattern, no specific weak spot to attack. In Week One, Tony Pollard attacked the middle and the right side of the defense. Week Two saw James Connor with some stops behind the line in the middle but several explosives running around the edges. Last week, Christian McCaffrey had his way running up the gut and to the left side.

Oddly enough, PFF loves the performance of Leonard Williams (82.1) and Dexter Lawrence (91.0) in 2023, giving them near Franchise Player grades. How can they be performing so well on such a poor defense?

One of the keys is they simply have not generated any turnovers, which is obviously big. The more the defense is on the field, the bigger the chance for yards and points are.

Two other factors work heavily in the Seahawks’ favor and are most likely linked: The Giants are one of the worst tackling teams in the NFL at this point and their blitzes are getting burnt like toast. How badly? Seven different opposing offensive players have logged an explosive play against the Giants in each week so far this year. When you blitz, the players in the backfield need to cover their men and be sure tacklers.

Neither of those things have happened yet.

Giants Defensive Coordinator Wink Martindale held an ‘I’m OK, You’re OK’ press conference on the state of the defense this week and addressed a public challenge to the press (but really, his defense) in that he instructed them to chart all defensive tackles and see how many they miss.

Martindale characteristically said he saw no problems with his defenders’ effort against the Niners last week. Yet watching the game, you could see several times where George Kittle, Christian McCaffrey, Elijah Mitchell and Deebo Samuel played with a fire in their belly that was not there on the defensive side.

Players like Kenneth Walker, Zach Charbonnet and D.K. Metcalf need a similar fire to keep the problems for the Giants going.

But it starts up front. This might be an ideal game for a run-heavy approach. Get the Running Backs at least 30 carries, if not 40. Get them to the second level and let them break tackles. Let big bodies like Damien Lewis and Anthony Bradford lean on this defense and control the game.

Winning another game without their starting tackles – while maintaining good offensive play – will be a good day’s work for this coaching staff.

Related to this, another area the Seahawks need to win on both sides of the ball…

Win the Tight End Matchups

Another similarity with these two teams: They both employ high-quality tight ends and both defenses struggle to keep their opponent’s tight ends in check.

The Giants, needing another weapon for Daniel Jones, went out and traded for Darren Waller and his record-setting contract this offseason. With all due respect to Tyler Higbee, Sam LaPorta and Hayden Hurst, the Seahawks have yet to face a tight end of Waller’s caliber this year. His reach, size and route-running capability is a matchup nightmare.

The Seahawks have real difficulty defending tight ends. They are conceding a league-worst 14 yards per reception to tight ends. The league average is nine yards per catch.

You are well within your rights to argue that this is a very small sample size of only three games and you’d be correct. However, you should know that the Seahawks were also the worst team in the NFL in this category last year, conceding – you guessed it – a league-high 14 yards per reception to tight ends. It is an ongoing problem.

They need to find a way to either a) defend Waller (and to a lesser extend the underrated Daniel Bellinger) or b) pass rush Daniel Jones so effectively that he cannot target Waller.

It would not be a surprise to see the Seahawks employ someone like Devin Bush to cover Waller. He may not be ideal but he is far more capable than Jordyn Brooks and Bobby Wagner in pass coverage.

On the other side, the Seahawks have wisely employed all three of their tight ends with different responsibilities at different times this year. While they each have their strengths, they have worked toward becoming more complete players and that gives the Seahawks all kinds of options. This is particularly important because both Will Dissly and Noah Fant appeared on the injury report this week and are officially listed as questionable to play.

Colby Parkinson has been slowly developing into a player the Seahawks can employ in many different scenarios, not just in the passing game. He has made nice progress as a blocker in the run game and last week had some great ones.

Watch him line up next to the right tackle and just move Brian Burns completely out of the way on the goal line on Ken Walker’s touchdown run:

They will need that kind of tough blocking in the run game if they want to assert their will on the Giants defense. With their tackles still out — and the Giants feasting on the blitz as much as they do — a blocking tight end is worth his weight in gold for this matchup.

How can they help this team in the passing game? We have long pointed to the correlation between defenses that blitz the most and defenses that are poor in defending tight ends.

The Giants fit the bill there. They are currently 28th in the NFL in yards per catch conceded to tight ends and 31st in passing yards conceded.

Teams are paper-cutting the Giant defense to death with throws to tight ends. They’re the perfect ‘get out of jail free card’ when a team blitzes as much as the Giants do. They can chip and release, or just read the blitz and switch to a hot route for their quarterback to dump the ball off to and get some yards after the catch.

The Seahawks will want to use them liberally on Monday to both counteract the blitz and attack this defense with shots.

Some Misc Notes

— Geno Smith’s processing and decision-making will need to be sharper this week than it was last week. Granted, he got dialed in after halftime but during the first half, when the Seahawks were settling for field goals and the game was less comfortable than it should have been, Geno was hesitant at times and wasted time in the pocket before making questionable throws. The Giants blitz packages will not allow for that. He has to come out of the tunnel ready to play. If that means a series or two that is run-heavy and features some short, deliberate passes to get in rhythm, so be it.

— Daniel Jones is on pace to match his rushing numbers from last year. With his shaky offensive line, it makes sense that he will be as mobile as he always is and with Barkley limited or out, maybe more. It might make sense to once again assign a player to spy on him. Just sit tight after the snap for half a beat, see where the holes are developing and then pursue Jones. Jordyn Brooks, Devin Bush, and Jamal Adams would be interesting candidates for the job.

— One thing I noticed in watching Giants highlights for the last three games, Jones is drawing unnecessary roughness penalties at the end of his runs at a pretty impressive rate. It feels like one of those ‘but the quarterback is no longer a quarterback once he leaves the pocket!’ rules that refs agree to in principle but are happy to throw the flag on the second tackler coming to help his teammate. The Seahawks need to be aware of this.

— The secondary enters an interesting condition Monday. Jamal Adams is back, Witherspoon and Woolen are on the field together again, Tre Brown and Artie Burns will not play and Coby Bryant is listed as questionable. This sounds problematic, figuring out how all these players will work together and get snaps. Particularly with the nickel spot a question mark, as well as implementing what plans the team has for Adams. At this stage of the season, I personally am at ‘it could not be worse than what they’re thrown out so far’ so I am open to new ideas, even unconventional ones. For instance, how about a package with Quandre Diggs at nickel – returning to his roots – with Julian Love patrolling deep and Jerrick Reed getting some time at safety? If the backfield does not improve – and quickly – I think all options should be on the table.

— Speaking of Adams, it is perfectly acceptable to marvel at the hard work, determination and pain it took to get back on the field this year and hope he has a fantastic impact this season. It is also perfectly acceptable to hold your breath every time he launches himself into a tackle.

531 Responses to “Curtis Allen’s week four watch notes (vs Giants)”

  1. cha says:

    *cough* Week 4 *cough*

  2. Peter says:

    Great stuff as always.

    Seahawks + Pete prime time record vs. Giants ( not good )….

    I think fairly convincing win today. Talking heads can be excited about a top five offense come the quarter mark on the season. I actually expect the defense to look sharp tonight. Primarily because the Giants are fairly toothless right now.

    Fairly necessary win tonight for Seattle before the bye. Get the almost gimme win against the Giants before heading into the deep woods of their schedule moving forward.

    Re: the secondary. I keep hearing about this is “arguably,” the best secondary room in the league. Here’s an argument, it is not. With Woolen, Witherspoon, Adams, Diggs, and Love…let’s see it. I’m talking a sub 200 yards in the air, one lonely passing td.

    • Brodie says:

      I noticed at the bottom of the redzone ticker yesterday:

      Seahawks are 5-0 at MetLife stadium

      Daniel Jones is 0-6 on MNF

      *knocks on wood

      • Peter says:

        I’m more comfortable with this game than against the red rifle rides again.

        * please don’t let this be famous last words*

  3. Peter says:

    I know JSN is not a bust. Still firmly putting this on coaches. Especially when I see the guy who turned us down for homecoming being nearly perfect on his short and intermediate throws yesterday.

    But….if his injury is effecting him why is he playing? And if it’s not why are we passing to him effectively at the line of scrimmage when that’s not his game? He’s not an elite athlete and he’s billed as a devastating technician.

    I really don’t want to question at the end of the year if spending pick #20 on a guy we can’t utilize was the move.

    • Mick says:

      First of all thank you cha.

      My opinion on JSN in particular and on the O in general is that we should employ more surprise element. Put him at WR1 and place DK as a slot receiver. Throw in the 4th WR and no TE (if your Oliners can handle their own without help from an extra blocker), or whatever other weird combination. It’s your job as an OC to mess things up.

    • MaxInVan says:

      I mentioned this in another thread but given the use of TEs in the offense both from a production and a protection stand point, I feel like we will have to wait till the tackle positions are sorted until we see JSN break out

      • Peter says:

        Possibly but I’m not totally buying that. It doesn’t explain why JSN and say Addison have near the same targets per game but JSN has massively lower depth of target numbers and as a corollary has very uninspiring yards per catch numbers.

        14 targets: 57 yards. It’s about four yards per target. He’s not going to turn know the jets and become Deebo.

        • MaxInVan says:

          It actually makes complete sense. Different scheme’s, different personnel. He is providing more of an underneath target atm. It makes sense though, we have DK and Tyler who excel in the medium to deep passing game. Not many plays we run or concepts that we use currently are going to utilize all receivers running deep patters given the OL health.

          • Peter says:

            Wait. So we’re talking around in circles now. We have a top 20 pick who excels at the short/ intermediate game and can catch in traffic as per his billing, but our concepts don’t include that….which then asks ( prematurely,) why the pick?

            4 yards a target. That’s not really an effective concept unless the player is a plus level YAC machine who can turn on the jets.

            If he’s going to be a six yard a catch player then he doesn’t divert, distract, or decoy for Metcalf and Lockett. A team with their brain turned on will say “obviously they are going deep and one of our ends or lb’s can just meet him near the LOS.” Or you plan on feeding him double to attempts to make him productive.

        • J says:

          If he’s in it usually means no TE, and with the current OL if there is no TE Geno has to get the ball out ASAP.

          What it boils down to is we aren’t using him deep . . . because Geno can’t let deep plays develop absent TE help.

    • pdway says:

      A different take – – why do we care? As noted we’re 4th in scoring offense, and the past two weeks, the offense has looked like one of the better units in the NFC. If JSN is great, things will come, but it doesn’t totally surprise me that w so many weapons on offense, he’s not the first choice. And really, the last thing I want is to force targets to anyone, that always works out poorly for us.

      And, to be clear, not a dig at all on JSN, I still have high hopes for him – but I’m just not sure this needs to be a storyline, unless and until the offense stops producing.

      • UkAlex6674 says:

        Exactly this. Let the big dogs eat and get the targets as long as they are producing.

        • Rob Staton says:

          They spent a top-20 pick on JSN

          It’s not as simple as ‘well if the others are getting targets’

          • Peter says:

            I hope this clears up what I am talking about. Because I am 100% talking about scheme and not JSN:

            Rookie stats.

            DK metcalf: 100 targets/58 catches. 900 yards

            Lockett: 69 targets/ 51 catches. 664 yards

            JSN: ( on pace stats) 79 targets/ 51 catches. 321 yards.

            So he’s still completely in the ball park of where a rookie could and should be at per usage. It’s how they are using him that’s the problem.

      • Peter says:

        Sure top scoring offense. As long as Jason Myers goes 5 for 5 and has a great day at the office.

        Against Detroit I’d totally agree with you. Against the rams I’d disagree. Against Carolina I’d call it a push. Fifteen points from your kicker and 22 from everyone else is a good day. Not a great day.

        Hey it probably doesn’t matter.

        Like I’ve always maintained I don’t think this is on JSN.

        • Peter says:

          My post as well is not really about JSN. It’s about if we can’t utilize him for whatever reason, I hope by the end of the year I won’t wonder if there was another player that would have made more sense.

          • J says:

            You can’t really use any skill player without a decent OL.

            Maybe there was a defender we could take, but you can’t really fault the team for not planning its future assuming both OT would miss time.

    • GoHawksDani says:

      I don’t think JSN is for this year. I think he might be 1, safety net if DK/Lockett gets hurt 2, someone they’ll coach up and use more when Lockett is no longer with the team (in like 2 years or so).
      It’s a luxury BPA pick, but sometimes BPA will be that. If some WRs will be out he can become a primary target, but with Lockett, DK, multiple TE sets, K9 running and catching, Charbonnet also he’s like 4th/5th in the “playcall depth chart”. I think they give him targets to get him accustomed to the NFL. Why short targets? Because you can’t send 3 WRs deep with this OL and if he’s not that fast or quick he won’t beat CBs easily without NFL level technique

  4. Big Mike says:

    Thanks much cha. As always, an excellent breakdown. I look for Adams to be trying to do way too much and running himself out of plays, arriving late to tackles, etc. In other words, the same performance we saw from him season before last. You’re 100% correct tho in that he deserves major props for the effort he put into rehabbing.
    A reminder, Seattle has the all-time highest winning percentage on MNF at .700. Here’s hoping that increases after tonight.

  5. Blitzy the Clown says:

    Oddly enough, PFF loves the performance of Leonard Williams (82.1) and Dexter Lawrence (91.0) in 2023, giving them near Franchise Player grades. How can they be performing so well on such a poor defense?

    I ask myself the same thing about Bobby Wagner every week

  6. ShowMeYourHawk says:

    I suppose we may need to dust off Kyu Blu Kelly for backup reps at some point? Eager to see what he can do in limited snaps.

    Also, Seahawks PR is REALLY leaning into Jamal’s return in their advertising of this prime time game. I certainly hope he can make a nice contribution but it seems a bit overzealous to give him the “returning All-Pro” treatment.

    • Big Mike says:

      All-pro how many years ago WITH THE JETS?!

      • Peter says:

        Very ‘seahawky’ to claim all-pro status for a players tenure elsewhere.

        Under rated coverage skills, question mark.

        Looking forward to the runway fashion shots this afternoon.

      • pdway says:

        Our safety play has been so spotty this year – that even w how out I was on Jamal before he got hurt = i’m actually sort of looking forward to seeing him out there, and seeing what can happen….

        • Peter says:

          I kind of think he’s going to have a good game. Can’t question his want to with this recovery. Prime time game. Could be good.

          Prepared for some hesitation because full practice and year off of taking hits are different things.

  7. Peter says:


    Thanks for bringing up s2 from last draft in the previous thread.

    Looks like that test is going to ride the Purdy coat tails as long as possible. Since Stroud is playing pretty well ( total dummy dummerton obviously….) and Bryce Young is out there 4d chess-ing his reads.

  8. Blitzy the Clown says:

    Teams are paper-cutting the Giant defense to death with throws to tight ends. They’re the perfect ‘get out of jail free card’ when a team blitzes as much as the Giants do. They can chip and release, or just read the blitz and switch to a hot route for their quarterback to dump the ball off to and get some yards after the catch…

    …Geno Smith’s processing and decision-making will need to be sharper this week than it was last week…Geno was hesitant at times and wasted time in the pocket before making questionable throws.

    I think this could be a key factor. Notwithstanding your valid observation of Geno’s hesitancy during the 1st half last week, his use of the TEs in this manner overall has been very good this year. He has for the most part excelled in situations with rushers closing on him to find the outlet (often the TE).

    Having said that, I feel like we’re gonna see heavy doses of Walker and Charbonnet to set up the play action Geno worked very well in the 2nd half vs the Panthers.

  9. Henry Taylor says:

    Interesting to see how JMS, one of the most coveted players by Seahawks fans (including myself) last draft, has struggled so badly. Big win for picking the best player available mentality.

    • cha says:

      I’d say it’s hard to judge after 3 games with such an awful cast surrounding him. I just point it out because this is something the Seahawks can and should take advantage of for this specific game.

      And Olu Olu has only played 6 snaps in the NFL so far so the jury’s still out. Way out.

  10. Palatypus says:

    The theme for today’s game is the “five-finger discount.” You can’t see it at this angle, but that is a Top Gun hat.

  11. cha says:

    WR Cody Thompson and CB Lance Boykin are PS callups for tonight.

    • Blitzy the Clown says:

      Good thing we stashed Jason Peters a couple weeks ago

      • ShowMeYourHawk says:

        Meh. Everyone else is free to nab him for their roster. No one has. If Stone and Jake had looked worse, Peters would probably get bumped to the 53. Peters stuck on the PS is a good sign, in my mind.

      • cha says:

        If he is truly mentoring Stone, Curhan and the backups and providing results, he’s worth every penny.

    • ShowMeYourHawk says:

      I swear, if Thompson gets more targets than Jaxon…..

  12. Sea Mode says:

    Albert Breer

    There are two winless teams left, and the Bears hold the first-round picks of both those teams.

  13. Rob Staton says:

    FYI I’ll be on VSiN Primetime at 4pm PT previewing the Seahawks/Giants game

  14. Charlie TheUnicorn2187 says:

    My 2 cents or 2 pence on tonight’s game.

    Defense) The Seahawks secondary will get tested early and often. Need more pressure out of the front line in this one. Play some 3 safety and 4 safety looks to try to match up with Giants TEs.

    Offense) Keep feeding the TEs and keep running the 3 TE sets. Pass or rush out of them has been very effective so far in the young season. Fant and Parkinson have stepped up and need to be rewarded.

    I’m a bit concerned now that the Giants are home dogs by almost 3 points. Go Hawks!

  15. Blitzy the Clown says:

    I’m ready for some freakin football already

    • Palatypus says:

      I am making chicken wings with Laxmi Tandoori paste and just a drop of Dave’s Insanity Sauce Jalokia Ghost Pepper Private Reserve.

  16. cha says:

    Saquon Barkley ruled out tonight.

  17. Rob Staton says:

    Two draft prospects I have been watching pre-MNF have me excited

    Notes coming this week

  18. Donovan says:

    Prediction: Woolen & Witherspoon show out tonight, and give reason for optimism on D

  19. Peter says:

    Let’s do this thing!!

  20. Big Mike says:

    Adams with the whiff

    Better there

  21. Rob Staton says:

    You’ve got to be kidding me

  22. ShowMeYourHawk says:

    Holy shit. It begins…..

  23. Kyle R says:

    Who had Adams down for 8 plays or so

  24. BrandoK says:

    Really hurt again

  25. Tatupu51 says:

    No way

  26. Peter says:

    Good grief

  27. ShowMeYourHawk says:

    Something, something, Tarzan, Jane….

  28. SeaTown says:

    Didn’t even last a quarter. SMFH

  29. Robert says:

    That was fast. Am I surprised? No.

  30. cha says:

    Well that was worth guaranteeing $8.44million more for.

  31. BrandoK says:

    This Defense still can’t get consistent pressure alot of time in the pocket for the QB to work with.

  32. SeaTown says:

    Just. Retire.

  33. Kyle R says:

    Nice run stuff by the defense on 4th there.

  34. TomLPDX says:

    Screw Jamal. Get off our team loser.

  35. Hawkster says:

    It was pretty bad form for a tackle (kinda a Seahawks thing broadly speaking) but leading eyes closed head down is Russian Roulette.

  36. Big Mike says:

    He may come back after the bye week but who knows how long he’ll last the next time. Unlikely it’ll be very long

  37. VanHawk says:

    great tackle by adams!!!!!


    knee off helmet, better then ball off helmet?

    Out for the season!

  38. HOUSE says:

    For clarity’s sake… We’re currently paying Jamal Adams $9M per tackle. 🤦‍♂️ With that head smack, I’m not getting concussed.

  39. Romeo A57 says:

    Great 4th down stop! I hope Adams is ok, and I also hope he doesn’t play again tonight.

  40. Blitzy the Clown says:

    That’s a touchdown

  41. BrandoK says:

    WTF was that

  42. Peter says:


  43. ShowMeYourHawk says:

    TD? Okay, this game is already heading towards legendary status…

  44. Peter says:


  45. Rob Staton says:

    It’s 1:30am

    I can’t be dealing with these dumb moments from the refs

    Get on with it!

  46. SeaTown says:

    Honestly, JA is a defensive liability. Probably helps the D that he is out.

  47. TomLPDX says:

    Butt down

  48. Kyle R says:

    JSN with a catch for no gain….drink

  49. Big Mike says:

    3 and out
    Not good

  50. BrandoK says:

    Oline looks terrible

  51. Scot04 says:

    So tired of passes to Jaxon at the line of scrimmage

    • BrandoK says:

      and behind the line of scrimmage nothing down or middle of field

      • Peter says:

        This is what I’m talking about. It’s not him. That pass has not worked in forever with Seattle. Its the holmgren run on 3rd and long. Pointless.

  52. icb12 says:

    Wtf are we doing? Ugh
    I’m gonna go split firewood instead.

  53. Palatypus says:

    The Lubbock crime syndicate is in fine form tonight.

  54. Hawkster says:

    The year of the punt muff followed by trying to reach between the legs to pick it up

    Fall on it.

    Head up when you tackle. Fall on the football with a punt muff. Chip the rusher, dont juke him.

  55. Pack of K9s says:

    Adams was looking good until that knee to the head. He still brought the QB down though and looked like he was giving high effort. There’s disliking a trade/being frustrated, then there’s being ridiculous and to be critical of Adams after 10 plays and a knee to the head is silly unless he is giving up huge plays. I’m not saying other criticisms haven’t been fair, all in all he has been a wildly disappointing player. But of course i want him to succeed im a hawks fan, and he looked good

  56. Big Mike says:

    Best in the nation

    *at getting paid to not play

  57. Blitzy the Clown says:

    No spy for Jones? Really?

  58. Hawkster says:

    Wagz is so hard to watch.

  59. BrandoK says:

    This defense is elite

  60. Tatupu51 says:

    Team looks awful. This is going to be painful.

  61. James says:

    54 out there doing pirouettes..

  62. bmseattle says:

    So far it looks like the Giants “want it more than us”.

  63. Tatupu51 says:


  64. HOUSE says:

    Yup. Unless he retires and he’s got millions of reasons not too.

  65. cha says:

    Seattle Seahawks

    Jamal Adams will not return to the game.

    • ShowMeYourHawk says:

      Cha, it ain’t gonna happen but is there a monetary benefit if Adams were to call it quits mid-season?

      • cha says:

        His salary comes off the books.

        But that’s a million and change since the Seahawks converted it to bonus 3 weeks ago.

        So it’s not much.

  66. Tatupu51 says:

    .@Seahawks injury update: S Jamal Adams will not return to the game.

    — Seahawks PR (@seahawksPR) October 3, 2023

  67. Peter says:

    Witherspoon though…

  68. Blitzy the Clown says:

    Fantastic fake to K9 by Geno on that play action to Fant

  69. Tatupu51 says:

    I feel for Adams. Dude was an awful trade, but he seems to care and cannot catch a break.

  70. BrandoK says:

    Another injury to the oline thats great

  71. nfendall says:

    We like to criticize players for lack of effort but I’d say Adams plays with too much effort to the point of recklessness that plays a big part in him bring injured so much.

  72. James says:

    There goes Haynes again. Why is he even out there. Rest him more…

  73. Hawks4life says:

    Walkers speed is next level

  74. SeaTown says:

    This game is a freakin cluster. My god.

  75. Kyle R says:

    The Refs are taking “you can call holding on every play” a little too literally

  76. Tatupu51 says:

    This game is not going to be worth losing sleep because of it, right? I guess I’ll play a little bit of Baldur’s Gate and go to bed.

  77. SeaTown says:

    Just punt.

  78. Big Mike says:

    Horrid football

  79. Trevor says:

    Hawks look completely out of sync on offense. Ugly so far.

  80. HOUSE says:

    Fragile Phil… I’m wondering if Bradford holds down the starting gig after the Bye Week

  81. BrandoK says:

    The amount of flags in this games and its still the 1st quarter

  82. Blitzy the Clown says:

    Effen DK man. He just can’t help himself

  83. Hawks4life says:

    Metcalf has to be one of lowest IQ’d players in the league

  84. SeaTown says:

    Unfreakin real

  85. Hawks4life says:

    What a surprise JSN catching the ball at the LOS

  86. Kyle R says:

    Hey a one yard gain for JSN

  87. BrandoK says:

    Can they only throw to JSN at the line of scrimmage

  88. Peter says:

    It’s gonna be Tuesday afternoon for Rob when this game ends

  89. Rob Staton says:

    Pardon my french.

    But this is shit.

  90. BrandoK says:

    WTF is this game

  91. Denver Hawker says:

    Is it just me, or does PC look like shit? Usually pretty spry on the sideline, but saw a camera shot dude looked like he just flew a red eye back from burning man

  92. SeaTown says:

    Worst Quarter of football I’ve seen since yesterday.

  93. Tatupu51 says:

    Best play of the game so far, this punt

  94. ShowMeYourHawk says:

    I was watching ManningCast, what the hell happened on the DK reception that caused 4th down?

  95. geoff u says:

    So when’s scrimmage over so the game can start?

  96. Hawkster says:

    20th overall. Maybe he runs down the field and you throw him the ball. The whole WR-foward pass-American football thing.

  97. Pran says:

    Usual shit..

    Continue to kill Njigba. DK is such a waste for #1 receiver.
    Refs are killing the game with flag fest. This helps NYG stay in game

  98. Kyle R says:

    The 4th and one stop and that punt are the only two good plays the Seahawks have all game so far

  99. Palatypus says:

    Just a reminder, the referee and the replay official both went to Lubbock Christian University.

  100. Freehawk63 says:

    Would somebody please tell the Seahawk’s coaching staff that JSN is not a jitterbug! Please?

  101. MaxInVan says:

    Officiating like that is what kills football. Who wants to watch ticky tac calls the entire game

  102. ShowMeYourHawk says:

    SOME LIFE! Any flags on the field??????

  103. Tatupu51 says:

    hahahaha this game is hilarious

  104. BrandoK says:

    what is this game its so confusing

  105. Romeo A57 says:

    Mario! with the huge play

  106. James says:

    Bellevue High School plays better than this.

  107. Big Mike says:

    Good job by Joe buck and Troy not identifying who stripped Jones

  108. Palatypus says:

    I think the Jolokia peppers and this margarita are making me hallucinate.

  109. Dominic says:

    Mario Edwards Jr. far exceeding expectations, Nwosu kind of in the other direction. But, finally a damn turnover for this defense!

    Ugly game though man.

  110. Romeo A57 says:

    Mario Edward’s with the Sack and forced fumble

  111. bmseattle says:

    Our big free agent, Mario Edwards, paying dividends!

  112. AlaskaHawk says:

    Wow, pretty sucky quarter for both teams up until that last minute when then Seahawks came alive.
    Go Hawks!

  113. Rob Staton says:

    Imagine paying Daniel Jones whatever the Giants are paying him

  114. Scot04 says:

    He’s definitely outperformed expectations so far this year, & we need him to continue.

  115. Trevor says:

    Mario Edwards has been a really nice surprise so far this season.

  116. James says:

    Manningcast technology is out of this world lol

  117. ShowMeYourHawk says:

    I hope Dre’Mont Jones is taking notes, presuming he’s awake.

  118. Big Mike says:

    Was Reed limping off?

  119. Tatupu51 says:


  120. BrandoK says:

    Wow Jones made a play

  121. Tatupu51 says:

    This Giants team is HORRIBLE! Wasn’t Daboll a good coach?

  122. Kyle R says:

    If the ball is snapped this there is about an 80-90% chance a flag is going to be thrown that play.

  123. Peter says:

    A lead is a lead and we take the wins where we can but man Seattle looks like a team that’s gonna have a rough time against teams that aren’t incompetent.

  124. Tatupu51 says:

    If refs call holding every play, might as well have ties like in soccer and declare this game 0-0.

  125. ShowMeYourHawk says:

    Geno getting tackled OOB is the one play NO flag is called?

  126. Tatupu51 says:


    And now Geno’s is hurt…

  127. BrandoK says:

    Is walker hurt havent seen him alot

  128. Tatupu51 says:

    Ooof, bad ankle roll. Might be knee.

  129. BrandoK says:

    Geno hurt?

  130. HOUSE says:

    Whoa… I was about to say DREW LOCK time

  131. Hawkster says:

    Hes stiff he should not be on the field

  132. Space Chief says:

    Does JSN have some disease that prohibits him from catching passes past the line of scrimmage?

  133. ShowMeYourHawk says:

    If Geno is going to do THAT, let Lock have the rest of the half.

  134. Kyle R says:

    Hey that would have been another behind line of scrimmage pass to JSN

  135. nfendall says:

    Another LOS pass attempt to JSN.

  136. BrandoK says:

    Geno can’t even move shouldnt be playing

  137. HOUSE says:

    Where was JSN going to go with that damn ball anyways???

  138. Mr drucker in hooterville says:

    JSN really not trusted to run routes?

  139. BrandoK says:

    Drew Lock Time

  140. Tatupu51 says:

    Shut Geno down for the game, we might even win with Drew Lock.

  141. Dominic says:

    Has any team ever been this bad at screen passes.

  142. 12th chuck says:

    keep trying to force the ball to jsn hasnt worked yet this season

  143. Mick says:

    On the other side, what a display of Dickson’s skills. Punter for MVP?

  144. Big Mike says:

    League office called and said pick the flag up
    Sure seems slanted toward the giants

  145. BrandoK says:

    Both guards injured

  146. Kyle R says:

    Hey down both guards again….what the hell?

  147. bmseattle says:


  148. Peter says:

    Not the cart for lewis

  149. BrandoK says:

    Wow Bobby is slow

  150. AlaskaHawk says:

    Witherspoon has been playing hard this game!

  151. Mr drucker in hooterville says:

    Thats a hit

  152. Big Mike says:

    97 yd drive incoming

  153. Trevor says:

    Wow does Witherspoon ever pop guys.

  154. ShowMeYourHawk says:


  155. Space Chief says:

    Spoon came to play

  156. Big Mike says:

    Incredible read incredible close incredible tackle

  157. Tatupu51 says:

    Witherspoon is going to be a star.

  158. BrandoK says:

    LBs can not cover at all

  159. BrandoK says:

    Witherspoon brings the boom hes a sure tackler

  160. Trevor says:

    Witherspoon is going to be a flat out stud. People have been whining about not getting Jalen Carter but this kid plays every snap and is a real tone setter.

  161. Peter says:

    Pro witherspoon

    Con extending adams for infinity

  162. Palatypus says:

    The difference between Devon Witherspoon and Jalen Carter is that if I caught Spoon in bed with “Flo” from Progressive and the Limu Emu, I would know he was shooting a commercial.

  163. ShowMeYourHawk says:

    Imagine if we had even three other guys that brought it like Spoon does on this defense. Love Woolen but we need loud, proud and mean….. and not porcelain.

  164. AlaskaHawk says:

    I’m beginning to think we need three more players like Witherspoon! Hard hitting is what Seahawks need.

  165. BrandoK says:

    If Geno can’t move or is injured just play Drew Lock

  166. ShowMeYourHawk says:


  167. BrandoK says:

    YESSS Drew time lets see what hes got

  168. Space Chief says:

    Wait who is this guy that isn’t behind the line of scrimmage?

  169. HOUSE says:

    Witherspoon reminds me of “Bullet” Bob Sanders. Decisive in his movements and just has a knack for making plays. Pure energy guy that brings others up around him.

    On a side note, is it me or does Bobby Wagner just look SLOW???

    • bmseattle says:

      the scary thing about that comp is that Sanders hit too big for his frame.
      Hopefully Whitherspoon has a longer, healthier career than Sanders.

    • nfendall says:

      Whenever Wagner has to do something in the open field it is painful to watch.

  170. BrandoK says:

    New Center?

    • dominic says:

      Olu in at center, Brown moved to left guard when DLew went down. This is the second string OL.

      • BrandoK says:


        • SEAhemoth82 says:

          The Seahawks should make this Offensive Line shuffle permanent. Olu played center in college, at an elite level. Brown has been great, but he was a good guard when he played in Detroit. Bradford is physical and nasty, not to mention he looks good technically.

          They should let this group play out. I am so sick of the Seahawks playing rookies, or players “out of position”, and this goes back to Tom Cable. I feel like it is a waste of talent and progression, especially at the next level.

  171. Rob Staton says:

    That ‘could’ be a bad injury for Geno

    I’ve had a few serious ankle injuries in my life. One while playing soccer, I sprained my ankle and actually drove home after the game (in pain, but OK to drive). About five mins after I got home, wow. I couldn’t walk. Was on crutches by the next day. Took a year to properly heal.

    Obviously I was a 21-year-old non-pro without medical help and trainers but having broken my ankle twice and sprained the other ankle — the break was 100x better.

    • Palatypus says:

      Strangely good news for Riley Leonard.

    • Pack of K9s says:

      Ankles are like shoulders, they are weird when you hurt them and take forever to heal while also being really easy to injure again

    • bmseattle says:

      i agree…this could be bad.
      And on such a stupid play. He should never have caught that ball…or ran with it.
      then he gets his out of bounds…

  172. HOUSE says:

    Trial by fire time. Olu Olu is snapping to Lock. Evan Brown is at LG for Lewis

  173. Romeo A57 says:

    I hope Geno can come back. I have no confidence in Lock.

  174. ShowMeYourHawk says:

    Geno is desperate to get back on the field. If Lock can do what he does, Geno’s gone next season.

  175. Big Mike says:

    Yes, htey had to move Brown from center to guard after Lewis got carted off

  176. BrandoK says:

    I like how fast Drew is getting the ball out of his hand not holding it for too long good start

  177. AlaskaHawk says:

    How many of thought the offensive line looked good at the beginning of the season? Who’s left of the original group?

  178. Hawkster says:

    Hmm. A palpable lack of Lock-jsn chemistry.

  179. Tatupu51 says:


  180. Hawkster says:

    Charbonnet Bradford Olu for a yard

  181. BrandoK says:

    Good run by Fant

  182. cha says:

    Giants Defensive Coordinator Wink Martindale held an ‘I’m OK, You’re OK’ press conference on the state of the defense this week and addressed a public challenge to the press (but really, his defense) in that he instructed them to chart all defensive tackles and see how many they miss.

    Martindale characteristically said he saw no problems with his defenders’ effort against the Niners last week.

    How many was that, Wink?

  183. BrandoK says:

    Does seattle have a 3rd string QB on the roster?

  184. Mick says:

    Design a play for Fant, he deserves this TD.

  185. BrandoK says:

    More flags what a surprise

  186. HOUSE says:

    With NOT one starting OL in their native spot, Drew Lock looked decent there. I think he probably needs to settle a little bit more before he forces to roll out and that may just be nerves, maybe even play design

  187. pdway says:

    i don’t hate this game….it’s sloppy…but it’s kind of a rock fight and feels weirdly compelling….a little bit of a toughness check. tons of backups too. we’re clearly better – i want to see us roll through this.

  188. Big Mike says:

    Now no cheapies defense
    We get the ball to start the second half

  189. nfendall says:

    If I had to guess, the emergency ‘QB’ would be Deejay Dallas.

  190. 12th chuck says:

    I dont recall the last time a worse officiated game was, this is b.s.

  191. Palatypus says:

    I warned you yesterday about this crew.

  192. Hawks4life says:

    WTF are we doing?

  193. pdway says:

    let’s just win this weird game w out anyone else getting hurt… and get to the bye.

  194. Palatypus says:

    It’s official, concussion.

    Jamal Adams thinks he’s Batman.

    • Romeo A57 says:

      Probably thinks he is George Clooney compared to the much better actors who played Batman.

      • Big Mike says:

        Absolutely bored to tears with Jamal Adams and all the crap that surrounds him. It’s obvious he’ll never be what Carroll has always wanted him to be.

  195. Romeo A57 says:

    What an ugly injury and penalty filled Poopfest. Glad with the double digit lead. The Giants looked like a tire fire in the first half

    I am under no illusion that Seattle is a good team, but will enjoy a victory, if they hold on.

  196. 12th chuck says:

    seahawks are SLOPPY. I hope they have some halftime adjustments, so they don’t get their asses handed to them in typical fashion.

    • Palatypus says:

      Bad officiating crews contribute to sloppy football AND INJURIES.

      • 12th chuck says:

        I’m still in disbelief that wasn’t a penalty against DJ on the punt, right in front of the ref no less.

  197. Palatypus says:

    Lubbock Christian University has a few bets on this game.

  198. says:

    Lots of penalties, injuries including to our Pro Bowl starting QB, and a lack of meaningful run game and despite it all Seattle is heading into the break with 14-3 lead on the road in prime time. Not every game is a Picasso. But good teams win games like these

  199. TomLPDX says:

    Are we playing the Giants or the refs?

  200. Palatypus says:

    Rob asked us to excuse his French earlier when he said this game is shit. So here is a quick guide.



    Nom de Dieu

  201. BrandoK says:

    Is Geno really going to play like why

  202. ShowMeYourHawk says:

    If I’m Pete, I don’t think twice about pulling Geno if he’s struggling.

  203. BrandoK says:

    There goes throwing to JSN down the field

  204. BrandoK says:

    Geno gets in and we have more flags

  205. Big Mike says:

    These officials are doing everything in their power to keep us from taking control of this game

  206. BrandoK says:

    WTF Geno taunting really

  207. AlaskaHawk says:

    Good throw and catch. Nothing spurs healing like being afraid you will be replaced. Go Geno !

    So two of our recent draft our playing on the offensive line now! wow.

  208. ShowMeYourHawk says:

    Walker’s running through a cloak room. Beautiful.

  209. BrandoK says:

    Love this 1 2 punch with K9 and Zach

  210. HOUSE says:

    Walker and Charbonnet are KILLERS!!!

  211. TomLPDX says:

    JSN TD coming up

  212. ShowMeYourHawk says:

    K9’s inability to plunge ahead is the only thing about his game that drives me crazy.

  213. Big Mike says:

    Good throw by Geno and it’s a first down of course the refs would have not picked up the flag and we’d had to kick the field goal anyway

  214. BrandoK says:

    I want to see more of Drew Lock his throws have a zip to them

  215. Scot04 says:

    Don’t know why you don’t run right on 4th down there. Running right was looking pretty dominant on that drive.

  216. Trevor says:

    Was really hoping we would get to see Drew Lock play the 2nd half.

  217. Palatypus says:

    Three missed tackles on that sack.

  218. Romeo A57 says:

    Loved to see the defense dominant that drive. Not giving Jones a chance to do anything.

  219. Palatypus says:

    And then Boye Mafe whiffing on the next one.

  220. ShowMeYourHawk says:

    It’s time. Crush their spirits and run up the score. They’ve got nothing.

  221. BrandoK says:

    Is this Dline good or is the giants Oline just that terrible?

  222. Trevor says:

    There is a flag on every snap it is embarrassing. The NFL needs to do something about the officiating because it is almost unwatchable.

  223. Mick says:

    Glad to see Bobby getting a sack.

  224. AlaskaHawk says:

    We are getting great field position.

    It’s hard to get worried about the Giants, but I still got my fingers crossed the Seahawks keep the pressure on them.

  225. nfendall says:

    This has to be the least impressive 6 sacks in less than 3 quarters of football.

  226. Kyle R says:

    It is unwatchable. If this wasn’t the Seahawks playing I couldn’t watch this Ref fest.

  227. Hawks4life says:

    Geno can’t move, why is he playing

    • AlaskaHawk says:

      I’m surprised they didn’t call intentional grounding on his last pass into the dirt.

  228. BrandoK says:

    Geno looks terrible

  229. Dustin says:

    Cut Myers already

  230. ShowMeYourHawk says:

    Six points left on the field. Just can’t run up a score, even against a team with no heart.

  231. BrandoK says:

    Myers is terrible

  232. Kyle R says:

    Exactly with the offensive line the way it is being mobile is more important this game so that means Lock gives us the best chance.

  233. Big Mike says:

    Waste of excellent field position and now leaving them hanging around

  234. Troy says:

    Typically Seahawk football. Let an inferior opponent hang around .

  235. AlaskaHawk says:

    I wonder how many different penalties the Seahawks will get today?

  236. Mick says:

    Is that a penalty every second play?

  237. Troy says:

    How is that not a hold on Cameron Yohng?

  238. HOUSE says:

    Cam Young is BIG and strong

  239. AlaskaHawk says:

    FErc me, am I actually concerned about the Giants??? They are moving the ball.

  240. nfendall says:

    Taylor is oblivious when not rushing the passer.

  241. Palatypus says:

    Big penalty coming up!

  242. BrandoK says:

    Is Geno gonna be playing the rest of the game I would rather see Lock out there

  243. says:

    Shane Waldron has been absolutely terrible today with his play calling. He is the reason why this game is close. No feel for the game in this second half at all. Terrible

  244. ShowMeYourHawk says:

    Dear lord, Mafe is slow in pursuit.

  245. SEAhemoth82 says:

    Daniel Barkley.

  246. James says:

    Just.. walking the ball past the defense.

  247. BrandoK says:

    This defense gonna let the QB run all over them

  248. ShowMeYourHawk says:

    Guys….. I think I’m in love.


  249. GoHawks5151 says:


  250. dand393 says:

    Carter Who, what a stud

  251. BrandoK says:


  252. Romeo A57 says:

    Spoon, with the Dagger!

  253. Palatypus says:


    BOOM !!!

  254. Mick says:

    That’s our rook.
    Carter who?

  255. AlaskaHawk says:

    Wow, Witherspoon the Legend begins.

  256. Big Mike says:

    There’s gotta be a penalty flag right?

  257. BrandoK says:

    Witherspoon is that guy

  258. HOUSE says:


  259. James says:

    The Rookie does it all today.

  260. Big Mike says:

    There’s your NFC defensive player of the week

  261. SEAhemoth82 says:

    All World Witherspoon. What a game for this young Man!

  262. pdway says:

    BOW DOWN TO WITHERSPOON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  263. Space Chief says:

    Not a good night for the Jalen Carter truthers

  264. Blitzy the Clown says:

    bUt THeY sHoULdA dRaFtED jAleN cArRTeR

    I hope that ghost is dead

  265. James Cr. says:

    Daniel Jones – thank you sir!

  266. Dominic says:

    Spoon is easily defensive player of the week

  267. Troy says:

    Nice to see our #5 draft pick paying off

  268. PDWAY says:

    man, are these two young CB’s gonna lead the way for this team?

    suddenly, our dead energy defense is showing a ton of spirit!

  269. Blitzy the Clown says:

    Plus Riq also had a near INT

    Our DBs are so bright, I gotta wear shades. Especially the creeper kind like Palatypus

  270. Kyle R says:

    They really have been picking on Witherspoon and he is making them find out hahahaha!

  271. Mick says:

    That’s a way to rest Geno too, let them get to our red zone then score an int TD so they start back from square one.

  272. BrandoK says:

    Witherspoon plays better as the nickel

  273. Gaux Hawks says:

    Witherspoon, 6
    Carter, 0

  274. mantis says:

    Spoon puts the knife in!!!!!

  275. pdway says:

    started in the 2nd half last week…this D is starting to show some grit and spirit – — it’s fun to watch

  276. Blitzy the Clown says:

    Otoh, Darrell Taylor is pretty awful

  277. bmseattle says:

    ah…the inevitable Reed injury at last.

  278. Kyle R says:

    Shit Reed is down!!

    • Big Mike says:

      Cam Young every down the rest of the way?

    • Trevor says:

      The only good drive the Hawks had this game was the one Lock played. Really wish we could have gotten to see him play the 2nd half. Really think he has more upside than Geno if this team wants to go to the next level.

  279. Kyle R says:

    That or any other big body they can muster

  280. Hawkster says:

    Yea, im thinking they extend Taylor 3 yr 45m.

  281. BrandoK says:

    people are going to overreact to Seattle’s dine but we gotta admit this Giants Oline its garbage

  282. Romeo A57 says:

    I am starting to feel bad for Daniel Jones. He is taking a beating.

    Never mind, I hope the Seahawks get 8 more sacks.

  283. ShowMeYourHawk says:

    Only drawback is if this D starts feeling itself and walk into Cinci with an inflated sense of self.

    • says:

      False sense of self? Or confidence? When you play with confidence you do everything a little bit quicker

      • ShowMeYourHawk says:

        Confidence by beating a good team is great. Waxing a Junior Varsity OL for 8 sacks isn’t going to happen again this season.

  284. Troy says:

    I think we won the LOS battle

  285. Palatypus says:

    Daniel Jones has been sacked 8 times and taken a peacock helmet to the knee.

    I was at Jim Kelly’s last game when the Seahawks abused him with 7 sacks, but he left with an injury.

    I’m impressed.

  286. Palatypus says:

    Two tight ends in the backfield.

  287. BrandoK says:

    Offense look better with Lock out there

  288. Big Mike says:

    Do not like the approach on that offensive series
    How about running the football a little

    • icb12 says:

      Took the words right off my keyboard.

    • MaxInVan says:

      I’ve been bitching about it all 2nd half. It’s so frustrating. The Seahawks defense is bailing out a dismal play calling day from Waldron

  289. BrandoK says:

    I don’t see why Geno is still out there

  290. Mick says:

    Yeah give them the ball again, way funnier.

  291. Palatypus says:

    Michael Dickson deserves a running play today.

  292. Troy says:

    Offense has been bad tonight. Thankfully, the defense came to play.

  293. Romeo A57 says:

    Seahawks Offense has done absolutely nothing in the second half which has to be concerning even with this large lead.

    One short TD drive by Geno, and one TD Drive by Lock is not a very good showing.

  294. Mick says:

    And another sack

  295. BrandoK says:

    Another one

  296. Space Chief says:

    Wait Diggs did something I can Diggs?

  297. Big Mike says:

    Can we please run the football

  298. ShowMeYourHawk says:

    Can we petition the league to play the Giants every year?

  299. BrandoK says:

    Hall with the QB pressure

  300. James says:

    Diggs answers that long standing question of whether or not he’s playing with prosthetic hands.

  301. SEAhemoth82 says:

    Dabol is in absolute disgust with Daniel Jones. That’s quite the Head Coach-QB dynamic.

    • bmseattle says:

      yeah…pretty classless how obvious he’s being.

      • Troy says:

        Daboll is being a clown. Bad look for him…

      • SEAhemoth82 says:

        I agree and it’s been uncomfortable watch. However, in Dabol’s defense, on a couple occasions when cameras were showing their exchanges on the sideline, it seemed that Jones was confused on the play calls, or called the wrong plays. If I was Dabol, I would be pissed too.

  302. Mick says:

    The win is in the bag, why not play Drew Lock now?

  303. BrandoK says:

    Geno can not sense pressure

  304. Denver Hawker says:

    Sounds silly to say, but don’t feel right calling this a win- more like Giants lost.

    I’ll still take a W of course and wins are wins and all, but offense was not good enough to win against most of this league tonight.

  305. Palatypus says:

    This is the most excruciating 21-point lead ever.

  306. Jon W. says:

    Curhan was abused on that sack.

  307. ShowMeYourHawk says:

    11 sacks? Oh, my.

  308. Big Mike says:

    Why is Dallas not playing running back?