This is a guest article by Curtis Allen. After the game today tune into the instant reaction live stream which will be available on here and on our YouTube channel
The Seahawks come out of one of the latest bye weeks in the Pete Carroll era refreshed and mostly healthy, a half a game out of the division lead and with five of their final seven games at home. They are set up with the playoffs in sight about as well as a team can be. Can they start a run that elevates this unexpected season from being a mere feel-good story to a playoff team? We are about to find out.
Pete Carroll has a 7-5 record in the Seahawk era in games following a bye week. They will need a ‘taking care of business’ win against the Raiders, who are having an unexpected season of their own – just in the other direction.
On offense, they are adjusting to new coach Josh McDaniels’ offense but they have been absolutely hammered by injuries.
Top targets Darren Waller and Hunter Renfrow are on Injured Reserve. That is about 120-130 yards per game in the trainer’s room right there and Foster Moreau and Mack Hollis have not been able to fill those gaps adequately. Yet both Waller and Renfrow were more than pure numbers. They were players that pushed the offense forward down the field. First downs and explosive plays in the clutch were their calling card. It is no wonder they are having trouble this year.
On defense, it has been a disaster. Their pass rush other than Maxx Crosby has been awful. They are dead last in the NFL in sacks and bottom-ten in the other quarterback-effect stats (hurries, pressures and pressure %) despite blitzing a healthy 29% of the time. As a result, they are giving up a net of seven yards gained per pass attempt.
Their run defense is not much better. They have conceded 100 yards rushing in every loss this year except one – Week One against the Chargers, where the offense turned the ball over three times.
At 3-7, their playoff hopes are all but dashed at this point. There are eleven teams ahead of them in the AFC playoff seeding. They are not mathematically eliminated yet but it would take something historic to get them into the playoffs.
You know the drill. Playing a team in that shape in Week Twelve with very little on the line can be either a cakewalk or stepping into a big bear trap.
I prefer a cakewalk.
The Raiders have some top talent the Seahawks will have to contend with but precious little depth.
How do they minimize those key players and take advantage of a depleted roster?
Control the Game
This has been a regular issue I have been pounding the table on this season. So much good can be accomplished by establishing your tempo by running the ball, throwing for some quick strikes and building a lead. This is especially important in this game. Like I mentioned above, the Raiders are on the ropes. A quick start could lead to a relatively low-stress second half for the Seahawks.
The numbers statistically also support that strategy.
The Raiders are one of the worst first-quarter offenses (3.3 points per game) and the Seahawks are one of the best (6.4 ppg).
That number for Seattle is a bit misleading though. They scored 17 in the first quarter of the Chargers game and cruised to a victory in Week Seven. But in the next three games, they failed to score any points in the first quarter twice and only got a field goal in the other game.
They need to get back to coming out of the gate quickly. Pete Carroll and Shane Waldron seemed to play the first quarter against the Bucs in Munich very conservatively, seemingly sizing them up and adjusting to the field conditions. It cost them as their late comeback fell short.
Every Raiders statistic says that coming out and aggressively mixing the run and pass game is an effective strategy. Derek Carr’s numbers in clutch time so far this year have been absolutely horrible:
-He is throwing only a 59.78% completion rate on third downs
-His second-half completion percentage is 54.86% (down from 70% and 66% the last two years)
-That includes a putrid 50.89% in the fourth quarter
This despite Carr having the most time in the pocket (2.6 seconds) and low sack numbers (20) and pressure percentages (20.3%).
Turning up the heat and not letting the Raiders comfortably set up their offensive playbook is very important.
Why? Overall poor numbers matter little when you are tied in the fourth quarter or overtime and Carr has an absolute beast to throw to…
Keep Davante Adams from Wrecking the Game
With their other receivers badly banged up, Carr has looked for Adams a lot lately and their relationship on the field is really starting to bear fruit.
Adams is one of the NFL’s best wide receivers and lately he has been showing it. In his last three games he has averaged 9.5 catches for 136 yards and 1.5 touchdowns. Two of those games he was matched up with excellent corners Patrick Surtain and Stephen Gilmore at times.
He is a real weapon and the huge investment the Raiders made to acquire and extend him is really paying off. I feel forced to use the dreaded cliché ‘you can’t stop him, you can only hope to contain him.’
There are ways to limiting his effectiveness that have nothing to do with how you defend him.
First off, as I mentioned, a quick start is necessary. Why?
Adams has brought his savvy and game intelligence with him to Las Vegas. He is so good at selling routes that he can build a route tree to set defenders up for later in the game.
He did that on the overtime game-winner on Surtain. He had run the route to continue to the left side of the field two or three times earlier in the game and in overtime Surtain bit, thinking he had Adams bracketed with the safety. Adams broke the other way and left everyone in the dust:
What an absolutely nasty route by Davante Adams on that walk-off touchdown. Completely lost Patrick Surtain with that move.pic.twitter.com/ouXd7hTyFD
— WG (@NvictusManeo) November 21, 2022
He was able to make the play at a clutch time because he had opportunity earlier in the game to set up the move. Those opportunities come when the Raiders have the ball and have the time to run those plays and get Adams into the flow of the game and into defenders’ heads.
Just like when he was in Green Bay working with Rodgers, the Raiders spend the early part of the game with short passes, effectively establishing a pattern and feeling the defense out for these strikes later in the game.
What makes it so effective is the team as able to move the offense forward while establishing these setups. Adams has the short-area quickness and strong hands to take those 5–8-yard routes and turn them into first downs. He then has the speed and read-and-react ability to take advantage later in the game to catch defenders predicting where he will go and incorrectly jumping the route.
If the Seahawks can score on offense (and eating up some clock time while doing it would be a real added bonus) they can put pressure on the Raider offense and disrupt some of this route-building activity. It hinders an extremely effective schematic weapon and levels the playing field a little.
The other thing that can help the Seahawks is playing the percentages. In the last three games, Carr has targeted Adams 44 times. Josh Jacobs and Hollis have about 15-16 targets each in that span. Everyone else is in single digits.
Jacobs is coming out of the backfield. The point being, when Carr wants to throw downfield, he is looking for Adams.
Double cover him. Bracket him. Drop a linebacker or the strong safety and disrupt his crossing routes.
Adams deserves all the attention he will get from the defense. Nobody should line up for a play and not know where #17 is. This is where the defensive coaching staff may have to bend their principles a little. Having say Quandre Diggs covering a specific area where a less-effective wide receiver is running may be the schematically smart play but there may be times it would be wise to trust your corners to cover them one on one and have everyone else focus on Adams.
The only other Raider the Seahawks need to worry about may not even play on Sunday…
Keep Josh Jacobs in Check
At the moment, Jacobs is listed as questionable to play because of a hamstring injury.
If he is unable to go, it would be quite the opportunity for the Seahawks to capitalize and make the Raiders one-dimensional.
Jacobs IS the Raiders’ rushing attack this year. He has 930 yards rushing. Who is their next best rusher? Derek Carr with 67 yards rushing. Nobody else on their roster has as many as ten rushing attempts.
If he plays and is able to give it a full effort, the Seahawks will have a real challenge in keeping him in check. He is a treat to watch – when you are not defending him.
He is far and away the NFL’s king in yards after contact at 2.9 per carry (Chubb is second at 2.7). He may be the best runner of the football in traffic today. Jacobs is able to get skinny and slippery to take advantage of the smallest holes, push through arm tackles and keep plowing forward. Every time you think he is contained, whoops there he goes for four yards.
He has sixteen broken tackles, good for fifth in the NFL.
Tampa Bay showed some runs and looks that the Seahawks did not game plan for and when they needed to stop their run game, they could not. I think it is fair to say that the Raiders were watching.
If you want to keep control of this game and not allow Davante Adams into the end zone waving goodbye to the Seahawks fans at Lumen on Sunday, getting Jacobs to the ground as quickly as possible is mission critical.
Everyone Must Keep Maxx Crosby from Disrupting the Offense
Crosby is the lone shining star on a pretty rotten Raider defense. He has a sparkling 89.9 PFF rating and it is not hard to see why on the field.
Against the Raiders last week, he had: six tackles, four pressures, two sacks, three QB hits, a forced fumble and blocked a field goal try. Unreal. Davante Adams rightly got a lot of attention for a great game against Denver but I would contend Crosby’s day was better. He was a one-man wrecking crew against that sputtering Bronco offense.
He primarily lines up over the Right Tackle. Games like this are why we all celebrated when Abe Lucas slid to them in the third round of the draft this year. Lucas will have his work cut out for him.
Watch Crosby employ his signature spin move and do it so quickly the right guard cannot pick him up. He splits the two easily and takes Russell Wilson down:
Maxx Crosby with the cold 🥶 spin move to get his 2nd sack. Chop, spin, hook. Broncos go empty on 3rd down, the C works to his left to double Tillery but that leaves the RT 1-on-1.#RaiderNation pic.twitter.com/7PeQSDCuuu
— Ryan Holmes (@Rholm22) November 22, 2022
Deadly. That spin move has twisted several tackles right into the ground.
It is not all on Lucas to keep him in check. Watch his second sack. Jayon Brown comes in to pick the right tackle and for some reason Melvin Gordon thinks a 300-lb right tackle needs help with a 227-lb linebacker and leaves a huge hole for Crosby to whiz right by him and take Wilson down again.
Maxx Crosby picks up a sack, assist should go to Brown + Tillery. Protection has RB responsible for LB if he comes, slide protection left. Tillery works across face of C drawing attention of RG, Crosby swoops around after LB picks the RT to take down Wilson.#RaiderNation pic.twitter.com/D7tP2CRKKe
— Ryan Holmes (@Rholm22) November 22, 2022
I am not saying this is why Gordon was later cut — but yikes.
This is similar to what I said about Adams. Right now, there is one player that can really hurt you and disrupt the game. If everyone is aware of it, you have a chance to keep his speed and power in check.
Lucas will take the point in the one on one.
The running backs will need to help when they are charged with pass protection.
Geno Smith will want to get the ball out quickly and have his head-timer functioning properly. He has delivered great numbers this year while being blitzed 32.9% of the time. The Seahawks need that kind of performance against a desperate team who may throw the kitchen sink at him. And when they do not, Crosby can win in base defense. Smith will need to be up to the task.
If they can keep these principles in mind, they can move the football as they like. The game will come swimmingly to them. If they cannot — and Crosby turns in another performance like he did last week — we will all be left to question how one of the NFL’s worst defenses was able to keep a team with all of the Seahawks’ offensive firepower down.
Pretty intrigued by this game.
Heading into the stretch to see if Seattle can put it all together at the same time and punch their ticket to the dance or is it going to be about half the games this season where one side works while the other doesn’t.
For Waldron rightful praise this year I need to see if some dimension is stuck, faster processing to another form of attack.
Regardless of who is running the rock are teams going to look at the bucs game and just try to run right at the defense?
A game removed from a barely win against the equally cruddy broncos does Carr’s “clear eyes, full hearts,” histrionics matter? Or are the raiders who I thought they were at the beginning of the season? A team with a journeymen level qb who just hasn’t played anywhere else coupled with one of the worst headcoaches in the game?
Is Lucas even playing today?
Crosby v. Curhan does not inspire confidence.
I’m wondering the same thing. Hope he is well enough to play.
Throw in a TE or Homer there and we’ll do OK with Curhan too.
Never in my life have I ever rooted for Carolina! Today is the day 🙂 Can you imagine if they beat the Broncos today!
Hope that Panthers D-line are revved up
They are starting Sam Darnold at QB today. I hope that he succeeds. Go Panthers!
I just can’t have much confidence in Darnold. However the spread is only 1 point.so it is expected to be a competitive game.
Go Panthers!
It’s all in front of you Seahawks………….5 of the last 7 at home and 4 against poorer teams (Raiders, Rams X2 and Panthers). It begins today. Get it done.
This is a huge game
After the bye, coming off a loss, a winnable game
Need to get the job done today
Not just get it done.
I don’t need a 2012 style hammering. But show me something Seattle…after the bye I want to see a solid in control game against a miserable opponent where the outcome isn’t in doubt.
I’ll enjoy a win but not really interested in “any given sunday,” narratives. The raiders this year are crap.
The Panthers are so bad
I think Mayfield possibly gives them a better chance to win too
It’s difficult to imagine the Panthers being able to score much, if at all, against the Denver defense.
Wondering if that was a “strategic” move by the FO in Carolina… seems like a good time for an experiment at QB (playing against your draft competition).
I take that back!
MVP!
Late first quarter,Denver trailing 7-0. Broncos have 8 yards of total offense, including 3 passing yards by RW. Darnold with 1 TD pass.
Thanks for your write ups this week Curtis. Very good.
Come on Panthers !
Thanks for all the great reads this week cha!
Belichick would scheme the heck out of a game like this against the Raiders. Three clear guys to shut down and you break the team.
A little off topic but Penix has another year of eligibility and he’s only 22.
I hope he stays at UW. And I hope DeBoer gives him the room to develop.
Oh and Carolina just scored the first points of the game 7-0 over Denver
Go Panthers!
Broncos stink so far. How long can this coach last?
Go Bears
So if Seattle, Carolina and Chicago win, we would then own the #3 overall pick? Do i have that right?
The Panthers are going to blow this aren’t they
They are trying! Stupid muffed punt.
I mean you would think with 20 yards they will score but no. This keeps our hope up.
They didn’t even let Russ try to throw….says A LOT!
Seriously 3rd and 1 and 5 yard throw for a touch down. They ran 3 times for 1st Goal.
Thanks cha I hope that even if Lucas plays (and especially if he doesn’t) they cover the RT with a TE to keep Crosby from wrecking drives
This Denver Carolina game is a clown car show
User name checks out
Orange hair, red noses, big floppy feet.
My goodness Russ is so bad it is embarrassing. Almost feel bad for him. Wonder if the Broncos will be forced to sit him and perhaps start fresh next year. He just looks lost with zero confidence.
Maybe.
Probably have to suck it up and get a new coach. Not blaming Hackett but an axe will probably fall.
Not sure sitting him will do much.
He’s certainly not raising anyone up. But that whole offense is a tire fire.
3 points in one half against Carolina, this is really awful from the Broncos.
All these good games in the early slot and all I get is Bucs/Browns…geez. I won’t even bother watching it.
I think “letting Russ cook” has turned into “Russ IS cooked.
I have a Raider Nation coworker at the game today. He flew in early and is flying out late.
I want him to show up speechless and surly tomorrow morning.
I will break my fast on his misery.
And a fine repast it shall be
This is the way
Lucas is active
Inactives
Penny Hart
Tony Jones Jr
Jake Curhan
Artie Burns
Teez Tabor
Myles Adams
Probably Stone Forsythe at RT.
I mean, if Lucas can’t make it all game.
Seems like they’d have Curhan active if there was any doubt about Lucas
Isn’t Stone the backup tackle and Curhan the backup guard?
Curhan is listed as #2 RT on the team’s depth chart
Agree
Houston seems to have a lock on the first pick. Losing by 30 at the half in the NFL is well past embarrassing. That is full blown tank mode.
It oooks like the Denver d has just quit trying, I don’t think they win another one this year
Loving the jam roly poly into the end zone. Truly the finest td i ever did see
In the meanwhile Denver has decided to switch to Pete-ball, as this worked best for Wilson.
Cmon Carolina, lets not mess this up.
https://twitter.com/betonline_ag/status/1594485055803359233?t=-BmqWfd1-BOgI5lOk8C6Jg&s=19
Carson Wentz has more passing TDs than RW this year. Wentz hasn’t taken a snap in 6 weeks
https://twitter.com/RaidersBeat/status/1596011197895413760
Poor Russ, he deserves better…but karma is a bitch!
Denver is so bad. They might give us the #2 pick at this rate, forget the #3.
I wish, but with as bad as the Bears and Texans are playing, it is probably too much to ask for.
Russ has a history of injuries effecting his accuracy and play performance. I am wondering if his earlier injuries aren’t still affecting him, both physically and mentally. He also has a history of playing through injuries and not saying anything. If it is a bum shoulder, then he will continued to be impacted the rest of the year rather than just being out of sync with him receivers and eventually working through it.
I do like Russ and I feel sorry for him, but I want him to continue to struggle this year to help our draft spots. He can return to form next year….
I feel Russ is selfish putting team in bad spot by playing injured.
Broncos are imploding all over. Hard to watch.
Easy to watch as a Seahawks fan
Even though the Seahawks are now going to be picking at least #4 overall after today, the situation doesn’t really change. Unless they get above Chicago and Vegas, they likely won’t get to the top two defensive players.
If we get at #4 any of Carter, Anderson, Levis and Richardson, I’m happy with the pick.
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Wow – it’s like a dream come true!
So what I hear you saying is that a Seahawks loss today wouldn’t completely be a loss. More like a kind of loss.
Wow
https://twitter.com/NFLonFOX/status/1596966641761660928
Nothing there Rob?
NM it’s there now
Meh. Some jobber level nt on a crap team is upset.
Russ sucks. They have a crap offense. And the defense is giving up wide open shots to adams and then sweet single arm tackles to Roly poly darnold.
They are going to fire the coaching staff but not sure how Russ wins that locker room back at this point.
Fire team 3. To start
I can’t see Denver winning another game. Internal blow up incoming I think.
DIGGS! What a catch!
Start quick? Check.
Yess, this is what we need, great way to get going.
Double check
TD Walker 😀
Burger King is proving my hypothesis that if you sing the same word over and over again it will piss off a lot of people
Shut up
Shut up
Shut up
Shut up
I don’t give a f*ck about it
I don’t want your stupid ear worm
Ruining my day
Russ don’t look right to me. I think the beatings he’s taken over the years have caught up to him.
Go Walker! What a chad!
What a great start on both offense and defense. Now don’t let up – show us some killer instinct.
Did I just see Cody Barton run through a hole and tackle the ball carrier?
Glory in the heights above.
Terrible tackle effo4t by Brooks, there
And the Jags take the lead!
Backup QB? That makes me nervous.
Diggs taketh away…and now giveth back.
😞
Any kind of pressure there on that play does not turn out the way it did
Any NFL quarterback with that kind of time is going to burn you
Defense back to its ways… hot knife through butter.
Terrible series
Browns win in final minute of OT!
I so want a center that doesnt get pushed backward every play
Me too, badly.
None the less, a Dissley drop meant end of the drive.
What happened to the offensive line giving some pass protection? Krikey! They were coming in from multiple directions.
Diggs woke up and decided to play football today
Diggs ending every Raiders drive one way or another.
A play by Barton again
Barton seems to be playing better football recently. True, there was nowhere to go but up, but he just isn’t as lost out there.
Come on get a TD not a silly FG.
Jags potentially winning is good for draft position
FG from 67 short, Jags win.
Jags win!
That was a great ending. Good for Trevor!
Bunch of 3-7 teams win to close out their games and NOT the Broncos!!
Geno was absolutely terrible on that drive
Geno competing with Carr at the same time DK with two worst possible attempts on the last two throws.
Shit decision Geno
Hey I’m as happy as anyone that Diggs showed up today. But let’s not pretend for one second this changes anything about his place on the team past the end of the season
Poor pass choice by Geno
IS there a chance that Diggs has been playing injured and he is improving now?
Diggs has benefited from good D by Barton and a poorly thrown ball by Carr. I’ll give him credit for catching the INTs and being in the right place at the right time, though.
The proper call is to reverse the on field call.
That’s not a catch
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Man I hope Geno does not revert back to Geno of years past
I don’t think the Raiders maintained control of the football. But, they need to draw up another play. There is no margin of error when your on the back line.
Also I don’t think it’s that bad a pass, neither one was catchable by the defense unless they were even better at high pointing than DK Metcalf.
That was obviously never coming off pre-snap. Safety was over there, just take the check down.
Yey Poona. D doesn’t look that bad today.
Hey Geno, quit trying to force the ball to DK.
Love the way Poona Ford is playing. Feed the Big Dog!
Also like the way Geno Smith is using tight ends. Disley may end up with most yardage today.
Carr just hasn’t looked as good since he quit wearing eyeliner.
LOL
Beautiful toss to DK
Ditto
On 3rd down too. Big play
The first one was on 3rd obviously
DK is damn near as big as Fant
An awkward feeling in an awkward season where I’ve been able to simultaneously root for my team to win and still hope to get a higher draft pick…not today
https://www.tankathon.com/nfl
Lockett fell aftermakimg the catch..again.
It is a smart business decision. Get the first down and save your head from getting knocked off. Wide Receivers are people too 🙂
Looked like a bang-bang play to me. What’s your point?
That it’s somewhat comical how consistently Lockett falls down immediately after catching the ball…even when noone is near to him.
Geno looking pretty good this drive
Hopefully someone had a word. We don’t need to force anything today. Not this early, with this score anyway.
How crap are the Chargers???
Wonder if Payton ends up there
He could do wonders with Herbert IMO
Somebody needs to. The guy is too talented.
Good call.
Coaching Herbert is probably pretty appealing to him
I’d definitely want that job if I were him.
Damn D, stop giving them yards
Our defense badly needs an X-factor D-lineman
They need a linebacker who can cover and tackle as well. A leader who can get everyone organized and on the same page would not hurt either.
What a busted coverage joke. No one saw the TE leaking? Horrible defensive stand.
This defense has a crap play like that for a TD wayyyyy too often
They score so easily and we get field goals where we should be getting more points. Not looking great.
That’s the big issue. Unless we get a turnover — we’re not laying a finger on them
We are getting out played. We have not made them punt yet. 2 turnovers and we’re gonna be behind by a point
Someone, anyone, on the edge needs to get consistent pressure.
Enough already!
Stop playing footsies with the gd Raiders!
Not exactly sure why they decided to announce it during a game, but Seahawks throwbacks are confirmed for 2023.
Looks like they’re telling us it’ll be the blue jersey/grey pants combo with silver helmets.
https://youtu.be/Ephq8JzijoY
We are in for a long game. Offense is not capitalizing on opportunities and defense is just bad when Carr does not force throws.
If we blow such a fantastic chance at the playoffs it will be because of this defense
Trick play – fool me once! The question is – how many more times can they run that play before the Seahawks defend it?
I want to win this game… but there is some silver lining if LV gets another W.
The one silver lining to getting beat by a crap team.
I said early on that the Seahawks need to show some killer instinct. It ain’t there yet.
What a shit show.
WTF is that?
Seahawks need to regain their composure
they need to win
This has been a very up and down game.
Garbage. This defense is full of leftover mashed potatoes and suck.
Nice tackling
Wow, really disappointed in locket on that one
Yeah he seemed to just give up. I get that he’s small but good Lord
I can’t believe he just stopped his route
Apparantly he also makes business decisions before he catches the ball, as well
reversion to the mean?
Looking that way
I’m probably gonna post this more than once this afternoon
Might help soothe some of the discomfort
https://seahawksdraftblog.com/curtis-allens-week-twelve-watchpoints-vs-raiders#comment-654673
Not sure what to say. But if they don’t win this game it is going to break the Seahawks spirit.
It would be a very bad loss. This team is 3-7, THREE AND SEVEN! They’ve got one win vs someone not named Broncos
Seahawks need to win the LOS battles … they can still grind out a hard fought game… gotta keep running the ball
Guess Hawks is out of luck, two bad games in a row. Back to drawing board.
The majority of this upcoming draft needs to be on defense front 7 and safety.
* Logs on to Tankathon to see what is needed to get two top-10 picks *
…not as angry about Saints and Falcons games…
Lol what does it say it will take? Haha
I’m really curious to see how Geno finishes this season. Seems like his interception luck could be running out.
My big fear is that he ends the year “playing decent,” in which case I think it muddies the waters for the off-season. We shall see.
Thank God Denver is imploding.
Could’ve had three picks so far… worrying
Great timing with our comments, lol.
He’s played well but also has had incredible luck on the INT front.
We really need impact dline and a good 3rd w.r
what a shame
So, is the defense the one in the middle of the season or the one from the first few games and the last two? Kinda feels like we are coming back down to reality.
My unpopular opinion is that this game is more indicative of what the Seahawks team is supposed to be. The 6 wins clouded that this is a rebuild.
Defense can’t rush the QB and is weak at stopping the run
QB making poor decisions and trying to force the ball into spots
Offensive Line not opening running lanes
The QB that still ain’t writing back
There you go. Get Walker the ball in space and let him do his thing
If the Seahawks end up with the third pick and get to (have to) choose between Jalen Carter, Will Levis and Richardson I think my head might explode. If Rob is right all three will not be there making this much easier.
I guess the way Geno is playing today you might want to go quarterback. The last two games are too small of a sample size, but they will know by the end of the year. Lets go Geno!
In the spirit of Joe Theismann, maybe Will Levis should get an endorsement ccontract with Levi Strauss and change the pronunciation to match the brand in plural!
That’s better
I see we’re watching the BIG-12 again this week
😂
All he does is…
Where’s V12?
And that drive is how geno gets paid
We shall see…my concern with Geno is that despite having played very well; he could easily be sitting at 12+ INTs this year. He’s really had crazy luck on that front – and no, I’m not saying he hasn’t played well.
The analogy I have for him is the power hitter who strikes out 150 times but has a season where they hit .300. I just have trouble betting on him repeating that.
It’s such an interesting situation – unprecedented.
Subtly great route
Yes, I don’t mind if Lockett avoids contact. He’s the size of a smerf, just catch the ball and score touchdowns dude.
Could we maybe play some defense now?
They’re playing decoy with Davante Adams. 2 catches for only 17.
Dayam. Diggs came to play today
What is a pass rush?
Refs are really hands off this game
Jalen Carter runs down Carr there
Just sayin
who would you rather have
QB Levis or Richardson or Welcome Back Jalen Carter
The QB
Not sure which. Depends on what you do with Geno.
Seattle’s offense is pretty structured and well rostered at this point. Levis is mature enough to step into that scheme in his rookie season. If Geno moves on, Levis makes the most sense,
Anderson needs a red shirt year. I would not recommend he start for any team. So if Geno is viable in Seattle for the next season or two, then Anderson becomes hard to pass up.
10 yd cushion on 3rd & 2
secondary sure has regressed the last couple games
Woolen is the only guy im excited about going forward
I wish they would play Bryant at corner instead of nickel so we knew how good he could be
I was hoping Brown would improve the right side, but haven’t seen him yet
On most plays Carr throws the ball when he sees what he wants, not because of anything resembling pressure. Seems DBs need to play more off if they expect to be covering for the better part of a commercial break.
Don’t celebrate yet defense they’re gonna go for it
Woolen cant contain there.
Not good
Irvin and Barton blown off the edge.
My kingdom for a QB pressure.
What is this QB pressure you speak of?
Woolen couldn’t contain, not that it’s all on him
All we need is there is for one guy to beat a block but it didn’t happen
It’s hard to coach around a bad dline
*An awful D-line
On this evidence
Well said
A better than average QB and a balanced but average offense is showing deficiencies in less than average Hawk defense.
A better than average QB and a balanced but average offense is showing deficiencies in a less than average Hawk defense.
It feels like Carr can jog around the field for full 60 min with that defense not laying a finger.
the seahawks first and foremost, better get a pass rush this offseason. pathetic
They’ve been trying to do that since 2019
“trying”
It’s the curse of the Frank Clark, it is!
*signs the evil eye*
D has really regressed these last couple games. Raiders able to do whatever they want when Carr isn’t throwing picks. Let’s see if the defensive coaches have the wherewithal to make halftime adjustments. He’s way too comfortable back there.
Part of the 2023 draft strategy. 49ers look like a buzz saw, so playing for a WC berth. With they may well afford an L vs LV to get them to 4 wins thinning the crowd around DEN at 3 a bit.
I feel the percentage the Broncos hire a new OC that’s an old Seahawks OC to run their offense next year keeps climbing. Bevelle/Wilson reunion in Denver.
Would Wilson allow that? Doubtful
You say that like he’ll have a day after this season. They’ll do whatever they want.
I feel like i’m in the middle of a joke that starts with Carr saying “Hold my beer and watch this!”
YAC for Lockett!!
For the most part, Lucas holding up well vs Crosby
strong drive O. they’re holding up their end of things.
Great drive!
Inject that into my veins!
K9 barking!
If they gave assists in football, Abe would get one for that play.
lol wow go hawks!
I see you Big Abe!!!!!
Now can we PLEASE play some damned defense??!!
…*sigh*
Isnt it officially not allowed that your offensive linemen can push your RB for 6 yards into tje endzone?
I mean…they always allow a bit of tjat, but that seemed…excessive.
The rule has been made clear. You can’t pull, but you can push as much as you want.
Wlaker needs some help. Anyone know what happened to Alex Collins?
I’ll take credit for that … I put K9 jersey on at halftime
One sack
No hurries
In 22 dropbacks
The only thing that has stopped the Raiders from having six touchdowns already is the clock and 2 bad passes by Carr
Diggs closes his eyes and whiffs
Quandre? What was that?
Shit is what it was
No way we are a playoff team with this defense
We are so finesse on defense.
We need in influx of toughness
Nice tackle Q. Nice tackle Barton.
this dee reminds me of the first few games of the season where Seahawks cant stop the run
I really wouldn’t mind if they drafted two defensive ends, two linebackers and two safeties. Plus another big nose tackle. This defense needs help.
We only get to the playoffs by outscoring teams. This D has regressed right back to early season form
It might take 2 drafts to fix this defense
No it just needs help on the DL. Give it a beast inside and someone who can wreak havoc outside we’re in business. Obviously there are people other needs but dl help makes this an above average D.
so frustrating….
Caught a break when the Raiders decided not to go for it on 4th and 1 there, I would have gone for that 10 out of 10 times the way this game is going right now.
Where is the playmaking from Nwosu or Neal, or anyone? Zero push from the D-line. Brooks the only player who seems to even be able to make a tackle.
They’re 3-7. Why not go for it especially considering we can’t stop a nose bleed.
If Rob was able to ask Pete a question after this game.
“What can you tell us about the defensive execution after the Radiers game?”
Pete ” I am in favor of it.”
This next drive is critical. The offense needs to give the defense a little time to regroup.
But shit man, they had halftime and our first drive to regroup. I don’t think it’ll make a difference but of course would love to be wrong.
And right on cue, they 3 and out.
What were the two high schools in that clip? I saw O’dea but not the other one
Eastside Catholic
Lake Stevens vs Graham-Kapowsin
Thanks Curtis
This is trending poorly
Well…that was an inspiring “drive”.
Run, run, pass, 4th down. Nice playcalls, Waldron….
dont worry guys, the halftime adjustments for the d will kick in any minute…. just wait…. on the next drive maybe…its coming…
What an uninspiring set of plays to go three and out
They can’t throw to Metcalf behind the line because they are keying off Metcalf. Likewise in the end zone.
That was ultra conservative. Looked like 1st half vrs Tampa
A total give up call there
That play Perryman made on the 2nd down Walker run, where he shot a gap and tackled him in the backfield. We get none of that from our LB’s. Brooks is a solid player, but he’s not an in the backfield playmaker.
No, but he’s excellent at hanging on to the RB and getting the tackle 5 yards downfield.
They could probably pull a drunk 260 liber outta the stands and he would play as good as some of our dline
It’s not just the line, they need help at all positions except cornerback.
Now would be a good time to force a 3 and out since they’re backed way up. A turnover would be even better. I’m not filled with confidence for either occurrence.
Perhaps Diggs can pick off another one, between missed tackles?
Wow…that was easy
Way to telegraph the blitz
This defense is embarrassing
You’ve had two weeks!
When was the last time Carr was hit?
Hell, when was the last time they truly pressured him on one drive?
I can’t remember the last time a Seahawks pass rusher won off the edge. Hasn’t happened today or in Germany
Jacobs is already over 100 and I’m expecting he’ll break off a 40 yarder soon.
It took a miscue from the raiders to get off the field
Lucky stop but we’ll take it
Why isn’t LV just running the ball. Seattle can’t stop it.
That’s what I was wondering. Their backup RB was ripping us too. McDaniels overthinking.
Is Raiders forcing Hawks to not play 3 safety look. Barton is a liability among D full of liabilities
Gift from their TE. Total gift.
At least alter the geometry of a pocket?
barely worth mentioning among this terrible defensive performance – but wtf happened to promising pass rusher Darrell Taylor? I mean, just absolutely invisible now.
Pretty much all year.
Guessing he is not a scheme fit if there is one anyways..
So many years of poor drafting choices and expensive free agents, or is it the coaching? Followed by one year of good drafting.
Which will we get next year? On the surface it seems like it would be hard to screw up.
Decent first down play
Nice. Short, tight routes to put LV on their heels, then bomb one.
And stop running it up the middle, for Christ sakes.
How about a play action delayed screen up the middle to Walker?
We need an explosive play for a big team uplift to start the 4th.
Geno had Parkinson wide open another 15 yds downfield from DK on that first down play. Too much focus on DK imo.
I thought it looked like he had deeper routes developing.
I wonder why he didnt take it?
i’m ok w all the short throws to DK – he’s a battering ram, feels like our version of a big RB in a way
When was the last time we even attempted a go route to DK?
I mean, 40+ yards?
Is it that easy to juat erase that aspect of our offense?
Geno can’t throw a deep ball, we need a QB who can use DK the way he should be used. Sign me up for Levis or Richardson
I’m calling baloney on that one. Geno has all the throws.
Geno’s arm not the problem
I agree…Geno has the arm to throw it deep.
We’ve just been running short routes to DK…which is fine, except the threat of him going deep should still be a part of the offense
I guess you missed the dime to Lockett for a TD.
Obviously Geno can throw the ball down field but I’d bet no team is worried all to much about being beat that way by him. I would love to have some supreme arm talent at the QB position
STOP RUNNING UP THE MIDDLE.
let Geno cook!
Blythe 😬
Huge liability
Goodwin always seems to show up in the 4th and make a tough catch for 20
Are we telegraphing our run plays?
Or is our run blocking just crap?
Honest question: when was the last time you saw the Hawks get a good push up the middle?
The defenders have heat to be pushed back a single yard.
No Ken, you can’t do that in the NFL
Nice blocking
Wow that was a nice throw on the move by Geno
Excellent touch
Outstanding off script play
I don’t care what the scheme says. We need some more blu chippers on the interior line to really truly be the bullies again in the run game.
And the shitshow re-emerges.
man, terrible timing for that to happen. crap
JFC I can’t…
Unfuckingreal
I said earlier, this game has been all the way amazing or terrible
Qb or DL first pick? My brain hurts.
THERE’S Geno reverting to Autumn Pumpkin status.
What the f@ck!
Not sure Walker knew the play
OH for F sakes…..just hand it off Geno. Trying to pull it back to run
Too many avoidable Geno turnovers or near turnovers
That’s a communication gap. Walker was not expecting to keep the ball.
Our defense is bad ,but it’s real bad on sudden changes
welcome to Pete ball, last 30 seconds decides the game
Boy could we use a D stop now.
Don’t hold your breath
The way LV has been running the ball, they could bleed 9 minutes off the clock and get a TD to pretty much ice it.
Walker got some things to work on. He passes up 3-4 yard gains for big plays to often. You can see Homer stick up in there and get what’s there. Hunting big plays instead of letting them come to him
the comparative position of first contact in the running game is atrocious
100%
5 yards downfield from the LOS and the player making first contact is an interior DL.
Where are the LBs and safeties?
Can we not have a former Ram on the broadcast please?
Nothing like letting a 2nd and 10 become a 3 and 1
man, if the roles were reversed and the Hawks called a pitch play like that on 4th and inches w the way they’ve been running it up the gut all day….I’d be typing in ALL CAPS
Cody!
Stupid play call and huge stop D!!!
Good god what is LV doing?
That’s a gimme sneak, or use Jacobs, the guy who has been walking his way to first downs.
Huge stop!
B b b Barton?
Barton!!!
Great stop. Horrible call by the Raiders
Should’ve sneaked Carr it up the gut
McDaniels got too cute. Big stop!
Can’t believe he didn’t call QB sneak with all the calls for Brady over the years
What an horrible play call. We’ll take it
Good stop! Now do something with it!
This, this and yes, THIS!!
That play call is a fireable offense.
I literally cannot understand that.
Hmm seems like some issues on both sides of the line.
But thank you for the defensive stop.
Please go back to quick routes. The Oline is not holding up for long routes at this point.
This is like a Kingdome game with Kreig and Co.
Cody Barton quietly having a very good game. Hope he gets his flowers from fans
Okay time to take over! Go Seahawks!
So is Walker sitting cuz he screwed up?
Guess not
Here’s the power of having a true 3rd WR.
Man this Raiders run d is all over us
What a play call that was!!!
That’s a play Eskridge doesn’t make
let’s gooooooo!
Tell me they aren’t re-signing Homer next year?
The guy just produces.
OMG HOmer for the touchdown! Yee hAW They have had a lot of success with that roll out and pass on the right side.
Fantastic playcall Shane!
Homer reminds me of the little guy that is an over achiever. Some how he gets it done.
Yes! Homer won’t be denied!
real nice play call there by Waldron too
that was a smart play
That playcall…my God.
This is why I’m almost leaning on if Geno wants $30M; I might just go after Brissett. Waldron has been masterful with this stuff.
Come on, Homer! Come on, Homer! Pretend this is baseball and hit us a homer!
And guys, rhyming “homer” with “homer”…*chef’s kiss*
That was a huge drive and score for us
OK, officially sick of Archuleta now…..
Geno deserves a contract with the hawks
come on, one more pick Carr…..
Dear god what an effig catch!
Man you are way ahead of me 🙁
So Jackson is now reverting to Trey Flowers 15 yard cushopion.
And tackling like crap
Barton is not an effective blitzer
This defense man
Suggestion borne from frustration. Why not drop all eleven and try to confuse Carr? That might be more effective.
If they win this challenge…just, wow!
That’s a fumble
Whatever
That’s a fumble! We will get screwed though
in early season form
Wow……
That was clearly a fumble
More shit NFL officiating
100% agreed
i mean, forward progress stopped w the way he’s been finishing runs today? Give me a break….
They blew the whistle too soon so had to cover their asses by calling that.
Seahawks got robbed of a fumble
SCREW YOU Staratore!!
This has been a very entertaining game. In no way perfect, but in no way boring.
Not one second.
but STRESSFUL…..
Those calls always seem to go against us
Bad day in general. We got gifted a first down on that 3rd down pass. Never ceases to amaze me how bad officiating can be.
OK, Geno.
You wanna be The Man? You want a big contract?
Win it with this drive.
💯
That TD is on SHIT officiating
Aaaarrrrrgggghhhhhh!!!!!!!!!
putting it all on our offense’s back. been that way the whole game today.
Time for Geno to show us what he’s made of!
“Without any pressure on the quarterback, that is not a good coverage to play.”
The story of this game, Adam.
Diggs needs to take that money belt off.
Pete has a boner right now
We’re going to OT against the damn Raiders, aren’t we?
C’mon Goodwin don’t be giving me cardiac iddues
🥴
Oh look a chance for another referee screwing
We will get screwed again
Yep
solid blitz beat
“DJ Metcalf” piss of Steratore. You’re a joke
he had his hands under that
and made more maddening w us not getting any frame-by-frame review on that fumble.
The announcers have gotten the call from New York so they can tell us why we’re going to get screwed
Great, Seattle has them on their heels and the refs take 10 minutes to cool them down.
What a joke.
Take tour tomw refs…gotta get this play right!🙄
They are trying hard to overturn this
Go fuck yourselves NFL
Why not just call it “forward progress,” asshats? Seemed pretty okay with not reviewing the Jacobs fumble.
Exactly
This is a flipping catch why is this taking so dang long
They screwed us
twice now
Ok now I’m for real pissed!
Lucas just shit the bed.
the bobble as he rolls over is gonna kills this one.
Once they showed that angle – game over on that play. It was the right call, especially considering he was rolling OOB.
Oh,Lucas…😔
Crosby was nice and rested after that lengthy review, i guess
Crosby >> Lucas
Plenty of time for the raiders
Are we in the Super Bowl against the Steelers? First the bullshit fumble non call and then this stupid catch bullshit!
Just another example of New York/the NFL steering results
Did the refs denied the Hawks DL to rush the passer? Or the OL to runblock? Or K9 to hit the holes quick? Or Geno to play well in H1?
This should’ve been a 24-14 game. Hawks sh.t the bed again and the refs have very little to do with it
i can’t believe they ran out the clock there…..
OK, I guess
LV can just rush the Hawks to death in OT, so the Hawks better win the toss.
Well, shit…
OT at home
Pete’s favorite scenario
Hmm well this is deflating. Seahawks need to find some more energy!
seahawks don’t deserve to win
Not ideal
I said before the game I hope they cover the RT with a TE in obvious passing situations to help out. There’s not really a RT who can handle Crosby 1v1 for an entire game.
Wish they had done that
If we lose it’s on the NFL and it’s officials.
Draft priority: QB, DT, DT, DT, LB.
+ C, OG, RB, DE
I’ve no confidence in the D’s ability to stop a slow death match up the field. An errant pass for an INT is our best bet.
Even when we play decent run defense, they get 5 yards
This would be a fine time for a Woolen pick6
Runner’s met at the LOS but the play goes for 5 yards.
This is no way to play defense
OK 3rd and a stop…………must be time for a defensive holding penalty
All damn day to throw
Taylor is crap.
NO PASS RUSH!!
I’m bout to lose something over here
Rushing 4 does not work, 3rd and 5 send another guy. UGH
Yeah but they send Barton which is worthless
He’s useless in coverage as well
Excellent play! Shelby Harris comes through
Crap, Neal looks injured bad.
Really hurting on the ground.
Damn it.
Josh Jones next man up and he ain’t Neal. Would be a bad loss for an already poor defense.
JL Skinner please
Great, our 2nd best defender is down
Uh oh. Neal down. If he’s out for a while, the middle of the field is even more of a freeway.
Shelby got away with a hands to the face there, but I’ll take it!
And the law of averages brings Carlson back down to Earth!
OH JINXED HIM LOL
Missed!
Weird shit happens in this stadium
Now take advantage Hawks!
Whoo Hoo, lucked out on the field goal fail. And getting great field position.
run blocking is depressing
So, run it up the gut, huh?
Jesus.
McDaniels shouldn’t have a job at yet this. Some of the most appalling decisions and ply calls I’ve seen.
Can we get a 5 minute review on that please
We can’t move people on the line
Lucas just getting owned by Crosby.
jesus, Crosby absolutely destroying us
Lucas getting owned
Lucas ain’t it today, kids.
i would have thought hard about going for it on that 4th and 5
Absolutely!
That’s right, don’t learn anything.
Keep daring Crosby to beat your rookie RT
WTH
Just refuse to help Lucas, i guess.
Abe has had a very bad day unfortunately
Yeah, pretty bad.
Hahahahaha, what a way to lose…just unreal how badly this defense played.
Hey if we hold to a tie, that still puts Denver’s pick ahead of LV, right?
I’m so tired of midfield punts. Punt Carroll strikes again.
We didn’t lose because the refs we lost because our defense is garbage
That was embarrassing,
The worst possible way to lose
LMFAO
What a joke!
On a bright note, this team that wouldn’t stand a chance in the playoffs just moved up the draft board with a loss and LV win.
Seahawks of old. They sucked today
OL shitting the bed to go with D
what a punch to the gut
sadly the Seahawks shot themselves in the foot
The 4th Quarter and OT of this game are showing the offensive weaknesses of this team. We rail on about the defense being bad but don’t forget about the IOL needs an upgrade.
Bye bye NFC West. Maybe Hurtt should gear up next week and sit his fat ass in the lane. Can’t be a worse option than whatever the current plan is.
This loss is courtesy of the National Football League
Fuck you NFL
Ya 5 minutes to overturn that catch? What the hell was that?
Wtf man…
Goodbye playoffs
I hate to say this but I feel like the Seahawks deserve it for the way the defense played. Yes a few good plays, but not enough to make up for being unable to rush the quarterback and Jacobs getting over 200 yards rushing. It just sucks.
Finishing the Game in style
No stoutness inside on both sides of the LOS
That’s what lost us this game
Defense first pick I’m guessing.
Second week in a row that the Dline has been handled
Hope the Donkeys give us a top 5 pick to get us a pass rusher
And get us a center/DL and another bruiser RB
We’ve known linebacker is a weakness on this team for a while. Gotta fix this run D. I’m not sure what can be done mid-season though.
Omg, what an idiotic decision not to help Lucas…that could work for a screen maybe but nothing else.
And punting on 4&5 with like 4,5min left is like rolling on their back and giving up. The way the LV rungame went and their OL blocked, best case scenario there is to finish with a tie with time running out.
That run at the end is the sum of this whole game. “Cherry on top” that Neal might be injured bad who was one of the better D# players out there.
I don’t see a division winner here for sure. And I also can’t see a playoff contender. And really hard to see even a Wild Card team. So I hope they’ll lose as much as they can alongside with the Broncos and we might have a #3-4-5 and #13-15 pick. Get Carter/Anderson and Kancey/Smith and get this defense to a better shape
We really need to focus on the trenches in the draft and off season if we want to be the bullies again and dictate terms in the game.
They had multiple opportunities to close the game and failed. Offense has not score in the last 2min of a game all season which tells all about Shane, Geno and Offense.