Early 2021 draft watch-list & mock draft competition results

Florida’s Kyle Pitts is an exciting prospect for 2021

Firstly — here’s a new podcast from Brandan and I discussing Seattle’s draft class, the day three picks in particular and what happens next…

Early 2021 watch-list

The early outlook for next year shows some star, big-name talent destined to go early and once again it could be a good class at receiver. The big difference in 2021? It appears to be significantly better at tight end, with a handful of potential top-40 picks.

If you want some homework for the next few weeks, check out these players…

Trevor Lawrence (QB, Clemson)
Lawrence will be the #1 overall pick in 2021. He’s highly accurate, athletic, perfectly sized and a born winner. He can do it all.

Penei Sewell (T, Oregon)
There’s a fairly good chance Sewell will be the #2 overall pick, unless another QB needy team lands in this spot. He’s a prototype left tackle with great size.

Micah Parsons (LB, Penn State)
A former five-star recruit, Parsons is capable of being a top-five pick at linebacker. He’s fast, physical and explosive and one of college football’s best players.

Ja’Marr Chase (WR, LSU)
He exploded onto the scene in 2019 and was virtually unstoppable at times. He can run a 4.09 short shuttle and he’s highly explosive. The only question is his deep speed and whether he’ll be as dominant without Joe Burrow.

Rondale Moore (WR, Purdue)
Speed, speed, speed. He’s already run a 4.33 at SPARQ but he also managed a 43 (!!!) inch vertical. A fantastic athlete like this will always go early.

Shaun Wade (CB, Ohio State)
I think he would’ve been a high pick this year. He’s a five-star talent who is water-tight in coverage but with the recovery speed and fight to be a top cornerback.

Dylan Moses (LB, Alabama)
Had he not suffered an ACL tear before the season started, Moses could’ve entered the draft this year and been a top-15 pick. He’s a 132.48 SPARQ talent.

Travis Etienne (RB, Clemson)
It was a major shock when he opted not to declare for the draft this year. He ran a 4.43 at SPARQ and jumped a 37 inch vertical. He will be a high draft pick.

Kyle Pitts (TE, Florida)
He’s a tight end but he plays like he could be a #1 target. He destroys teams on in-cutting routes. His catching radius is superb. He was already running a 4.70 at 6-6, 240lbs in High School and it won’t be a surprise if he gets that down to the 4.5’s.

DeVonta Smith (WR, Alabama)
He had a coming out party in 2019 and was, at times, arguably Alabama’s top receiving threat. He’s extremely quick, sure-handed and he kills teams on slants.

Jaylen Waddle (WR, Alabama)
He’s quick and explosive (37 inch vertical) and is rapidly developing into a big time playmaker in the SEC.

Reshod Bateman (WR, Minnesota)
He was incredible in 2019. He caught everything. He took over games and dominated — making improbable grabs, scoring touchdowns and looking every bit a quality pro prospect.

Kwity Paye (EDGE, Michigan)
He’s explosive and active off the edge with excellent bend-and-straighten and the ability to threaten with speed or power.

Najee Harris (RB, Alabama)
Another player who stunned everyone when he chose not to declare this year. He has fantastic size, explosive power and he can be a threat as a runner or receiver.

Justin Fields (QB, Ohio State)
He’s good but not as good as the media say. He plays in an offense that churns out mass production at quarterback every season. He needs to take another step forward in 2021 but he’ll miss J.K. Dobbins.

Liam Eichenberg (T, Notre Dame)
Good kick-slide and gets into position very quickly when defending the edge. He has ideal tackle size at 6-6 and 305lbs and has a chance to develop into a first rounder.

Pat Freiermuth (TE, Penn State)
His body control running routes is superb. He can contort and twist to make difficult catches. It would be nice to see him play in-line a bit more for the sake of a complete assessment but he’s a dynamic, natural receiving tight end with huge potential.

Gregory Rousseau (DE, Miami)
He looks like a long, lean EDGE but he does his best work with the bull rush and moving inside. If he can develop a speed rush too — he could be a high pick. He needs to threaten the edge more often.

Marvin Wilson (DT, Florida State)
A former #4 overall recruit who incredibly ran a 4.56 short shuttle at 332lbs at SPARQ. He has the athletic potential to be a very high draft pick.

Walker Little (T, Stanford)
He’s 6-8 and has fantastic size. He was the top SPARQ scorer in his class at offensive tackle (107.25). He needs to bounce back from an injury plagued 2019.

Jake Ferguson (TE, Wisconsin)
A former four star recruit, Ferguson ran a 4.15 short shuttle at SPARQ and added a 35 inch vertical. He’s a traditional blocker who needs to become a regular feature in the passing game.

Nate Landman (LB, Colorado)
Full blooded, all-action linebacker who jumped a 37 inch vertical at SPARQ. He’s been nicknamed ‘the hammer’ by teammates. Landman has 260 tackles in the last two seasons and hasn’t missed a single game. He’s the heart and soul leader on Colorado’s defense.

Jamie Newman (QB, Georgia)
He’s transferred from Wake Forest where his deep-ball throwing was exceptional. His placement, velocity and accuracy downfield is impressive. He has a chance to make a name for himself at Georgia.

Brevin Jordan (TE, Miami)
The #20 overall recruit in 2018 — Jordan ran a 4.21 short shuttle at 250lbs at SPARQ. That kind of short area quickness and change of direction will put him on the NFL map. He’s a unit who gets around the field and is tough to bring down.

Carlos Basham Jr (DE, Wake Forest)
He’s a bit of a clean up artist but you see flashes of real quickness and power. If you give him a route to the QB he can explode, eat up ground quickly and finish.

Seth Williams (WR, Auburn)
He’s so smooth as a route runner and glides into position. He tracks the ball well, makes difficult catches and he looks like a 4.4 runner with good size.

Tylan Wallace (WR, Oklahoma State)
His stock will depend on his recovery from injury and his testing. He doesn’t look like anything more than a 4.5 runner but he has incredible body control, no wasted movement and he has a natural ability to track the football.

Damonte Coxie (WR, Memphis)
He’s tall and lean with long arms — creating a big catching radius. He runs the red line well and he’s an accomplished pass catcher. His stock will depend on his ability to run well and prove to teams he can create easy separation at the next level.

Brock Purdy (QB, Iowa State)
He’s creative, mobile, can throw from difficult angles and off his back-foot with velocity, he can deliver a touch pass or drive the ball downfield. He’s one to watch.

Mock draft competition results

Another big thanks to community member David for setting this up. He sent me this note to reveal the results…

Thanks everyone for participating and for a great and very needed draft season! The last 3 days & nights bore witness to both emotional highs & some entertaining lows. Once the dust settled and the BAC levels lowered, the SDB community once again finds itself united in support our bless-ed Hawks. Now the results are in. Out of 160-ish entries, (I counted on my fingers so if you think you got jobbed let me know) these are the number of times each of the Seahawks’ draft picks were chosen by a member.

Jordyn Brooks @ 1.27 — 0
Darrell Taylor @ 2.48 — 28
Damien Lewis @ 3.69 — 14
Colby Parkinson @ 4.133 — 0
DeeJay Dallas @ 4.144 — 0
Alton Robinson @ 5.148 — 8
Freddie Swain @ 6.214 — 1
Stephen Sullivan @ 7.251 — 2

There was a 3 way tie at the top.

TDD correctly guessed Darrell Taylor & Damien Lewis.
Greg Haugsven got Darrell Taylor & Alton Robinson.
NickATL got Damien Lewis & Alton Robinson.

We had to go to the 1st tie breaker. Who got their players in the correct round? Drum roll please………………

Ladies and gentlemen… Put your hands together for SDB’s inaugural Mock Draft Champion…

NickATL!!!! who correctly guessed both Lewis in the 3rd and Robinson in the 5th. Congratulations!!!

Rounding out the bottom of the pack was none other than our very own Kenny Sloth… A Ducks fan of all things (-1).
Thanks again y’all and hopefully we get to enjoy a 2020 NFL season followed by a 2021 NFL Draft.

Peace out!

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  1. Conner Jackson

    Thanks, Rob. A couple of other Big XII names to consider:

    Creed Humphrey-C-Oklahoma
    Adrian Ealy-OT-Oklahoma
    Ronnie Perkins-DE-Oklahoma
    Chuba Hubbard-RB-OK St
    Sam Cosmi-OT-Texas
    Joseph Ossai-EDGE-Texas
    Caden Sterns-S-Texas
    Darius Stills-DT-WV
    Charlie Kolar-TE-Iowa St
    Pooka Williams-RB-Kansas

    By the way, PFN has dropped a 2021 mock draft simulator for those who got hooked in the lead-up to the draft. Still early, but useful to identify potential targets and overall positional strength and weaknesses.

  2. John_s

    Alton Robinson compares favorably to Everson Griffen in regards to measurables.

    Both 6’3” AR 264 lbs 32 3/8 arm length EG 277 lbs 32 5/8 arm length
    AR 4.69 40 4.32 20 yd 25 reps 35.5 vert
    EG 4.65 40 (improved to 4.60 at pro day) 4.36 20 yd 33 reps 34 vert

  3. Kenny Sloth

    Oh- f*** off puttin me on blast like that 😂😂😂

    Its crazy I felt more prepared than ever, but this draft thing is a fickle mistress

    • Kenny Sloth

      Fair play to you DC and thanks for putting that together.! I had a lot of fun with it

      • DC

        Haha! All in good fun from a purple blood.
        The draft is a mysterious girl for sure. Lots of good evidence mixed in to an actively shifting maze of choices.

        • Kenny Sloth

          Waste of my time confirmed 😁

          • Producehawk

            Man I thought I got last! Darn

            • Sea Mode

              Always compete!

            • Kenny Sloth

              Wooden Spoon for the Ducks

  4. Volume12

    ND’s Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah. 80 tackles, 13 TFL, 5.5 sacks, 4 PBU, 2 FF. He’s impossible to take your eyes off of when watching that defense.

    • Volume12

      Also surprised to not see some of the corners here.

      S. Carolina’s Israel Mukuamu
      VA- Tech’s Caleb Farley
      ‘Bama’s Patrick Surtain, jr.

  5. Dave O.

    Obviously way too early to speculate about needs but I’m guessing OT will be a priority with Brown getting up there in age. At CB Griffin and Dunbar will be FAs, Bradley McDougald will be a FA so we have to hope that Blair takes a big step forward. We desperately need our young players to step up. If this years draft class doesn’t pan out we are in serious trouble for the future

  6. Steve Nelsen

    That was a fun contest. Thank you! I hope it becomes a tradition.

    Out of curiosity, who were the most common picks. Nobody on the premier Seattle draft site correctly guessed the first pick. There might be something to learn from the data on who we did guess.

    • DC

      That’s a bridge too far for me. This dead tech clown was scoring the mocks with a pen & paper!

  7. Volume12

    Am I the only one who think Seattle’s best UDFA pickup was QB Anthony Gordon?

    • Steve Nelsen

      I think that was a great pickup.

      It is particularly hard to evaluate UDFAs this year. But, he was clearly very productive. We will know more about his pro projection later in the fall. I’m expect that they sign a vet backup and Gordon fights for a spot on the PS.

    • Tecmo Bowl

      You’re not alone. Really surprised Gordon went undrafted, especially after Minshew’s success in Jax.

    • J

      I think it was a great addition and we may be able to flip him for a second in a couple years.

      I think he is better than any vet FA out there if you don’t count Cam or Teddy, who we won’t be signing.

    • Troy D

      Something feels right about Avery. I base it off nothing except the desire that I want him to be a 330 lbs. wrecking ball.

  8. Volume12

    All we can do is speculate, but who did the Colts jump in front of Seattle for? Was it Patmon?

    • Rob Staton

      Maybe. I think they just liked the idea of getting three guys left on their board.

      Chris Ballard has his own bar in his house. He’s the type of guy that screen shots the TV because he has three picks in a row, frames it, and puts it behind the bar.

      • Volume12

        *spits out his coffee* 😂😂

      • Ben Ft. Worth

        🤣 Hahaha!

      • STTBM

        Hahaha! Dang, that is funny!

  9. Paul Cook

    It’s tank for Sewell next year.

    • drewdawg11

      Sewell is a freak of a big athlete. He’s one duck I’d trade up for. You just can’t teach that size and agility.

      • Paul Cook

        Unless you’ve got a trained eye, or are really looking in that direction, it’s rare that an OLman jumps out at you over a period of time and sequences. This is one of those guys.

        • Greg Haugsven

          I still like Trey Smith, T from Tennessee. Not sure if he was on the list?

          • Rob Staton

            He’s not on the list. He’s wildly overrated due to the recruiting hype.

            And he looks for his own name on twitter and seeks out criticism. Which is an alarm bell. Justin Britt used to do that. No coincidence he improved when he deleted twitter. Players who don’t have twitter (eg Clyde Edwards-Helaire) get marked up for me.

            • Greg Haugsven

              Fair enough, he was just a name I remembered way back that decided to stay in school.

  10. drewdawg11

    I definitely can’t see this team not putting a lot of focus on tackle next draft. They are averse you paying free agents large dollars, so they have to draft and develop one. They had a golden opportunity to do so but they had other plans. They can’t count on any young player on the roster for such an important position. I’m genuinely pleased with the overall haul from this weekend. There are players who can help this team now and in the near future. If Robinson has the senior year he had as a junior, he wouldn’t have been available to us on day three. They need to unlock his potential. Knowing that Taylor played all season with a stress fracture made his season more impressive. For anyone who hasn’t seen Deejay Dallas play, he’s a low-key awesome pick in the 4th. I spent way too much time watching UF games because of Zuniga and Crew. That that Miami vs UF game was a battle and Dallas had some big plays. He’s a tough, tough runner and if he gets a crease, he’s going to gash you. Sad that we didn’t get a corner project like Vildor, but you can’t get everything. Now, let’s freaking sign Clowney!!!

    • Volume12

      The play he makes against Florida out of the Wildcat is sit up out of your seat impressive.

    • Volume12

      I could see them grabbing Duane Brown’s replacement next year. It’s a good class. Or should be rather.

      IMO? CB will be their big focus next year, possibly RB, and OT

      • DC

        I’m getting right back on the Kylin Hill train! 🚂 choo-CHOOOOO

  11. Steve Nelsen

    I heard a couple interesting comments after the draft that I will be tracking.

    Jim Nagy mentioned that he thinks it will be particularly harder to find/evaluate small-school football prospects next year. He used Kyle Duggar as an example. He said it was a Seattle scout who called him up after personally measuring and timing him that led to Duggar getting an invite. Kudos to that scout.

    Pete Carroll was asked about the nickel CB spot since they didn’t draft anyone. Is it Ugo’s job to lose like he said at the Combine? “We have some ideas about how to create some competition at that spot. I don’t want to reveal that right now and tip our hand. You’ll have to wait and see.”

    Also, enjoyed hearing that Coach Orgeron spoke highly of Stephen Sullivan and Pete literally told him at the Combine, “We are going to come and get you.”

    • GoHawksDani

      What ideas? Turning Blair into nCB? Or another trade? Or what could it be?

      • Ben Ft. Worth

        Do Safeties typically transition well into nickel back’s?

        • CojackTX

          I would imagine he is thinking about kicking Shaq or Dunbar inside to the nickle and bringing Flowers in, or maybe putting Diggs there and bringing on Blair. Or maybe not using a nickle at all given their scheme last year and the addition of Brooks. I say the last part slightly tongue-in-cheek.

      • dcd2

        I would think that means a roster move (trade/FA). If it was an in-house solution, no need to worry about tipping their hand.

        • Greg Haugsven

          They have had some success doing the end of camp trade for a nickel corner thing before. (Burley/Coleman)

      • cha

        Probably lining up Diggs as NCB to get Blair on the field in certain packages.

  12. Eburgz

    Is Thibodeaux from Oregon going to be eligible? I have a feeling we’re going to be talking about pass rushers a lot… again.

    • Rob Staton

      No not until the following year.

  13. Ben Ft. Worth

    The next superstar at LSU. He’s not going to declare next year, but boy can he sling it. Somebody buy this boy a haircut. Here’s what little tape I could find.


  14. OregonHawk

    Rob, Thank you, Like everyone else I was blown away by your content this year.. You truly love our ‘Hawks .. Follower since Curry selection or so,,, seldom poster – Gregg

    Will you be evaluating our UDFA signings?

    • Rob Staton

      Thanks Gregg.

      I don’t tend to get too invested in the UDFA’s until they genuinely have a shot of sticking. Otherwise it’s just wasted time. I know it’s different this year because there’s no rookie camp but still — I will hold off for now.

  15. James Z

    It looks like another good group of pass catchers (TE’s & WR’s). I hope the SH’s get their nickel back sorted this year. No more base sets on passing downs, please! SF will be stronger. LA should at least hold it’s own. And the Cards will be much improved. Should be an interesting ride for the SH’s. Just think, the 6 games with the NFC West will be ‘barnburners’ at best and strongly competitive at least.

  16. TomLPDX

    Here is a bold prediction for next year’s draft:

    Mike Mayock will trade up to #1 to get Trevor Lawrence! Remember you heard it here first! 🙂

  17. TomLPDX

    Rob and crew, what is your opinion of Anthony Gordon? I didn’t watch any WSU games last season so have no idea about this guy as a QB. His numbers sure look good but is he a legit backup for Russ who will make the team or just another camp arm?

    • Rob Staton

      Looked good at the Senior Bowl and combine.

    • J

      He was my QB5 right after Love.

      Report here.


      Another report here.

      Arm Accuracy – He’s got some terrific flashes on deeper routes and when he’s in rhythm within the pocket. Lapses are more a byproduct of broken down throwing platform. He’s got arm to throw from varied slots and release points and throw accurately and with needed touch. 

      Decision Making – Makes some pretty ambitious decisions, especially when boxed into the pocket. Needs to be willing to either throw ball away or take sacks to protect ball security and not play “hero” ball. Like his manipulation on half field reads vs. deep safeties and finding holes vs Cover 2 shell. 

      Progressions – Will get too keyed into his initial read and guide defenders in coverage to the throw. Processing speed isn’t where you’d like it to be and reluctance to work quickly through full reads results in some late throws to check downs or to the mesh in Air Raid system. 

      Anticipation – Some of his spot throws are just tremendous. Shows great placement on vertical bucket throws but also into honey hole and versus squatters in zone coverage. Will throw receivers away from leveraged defenders to lead away from potential contested targets. 

      Poise – Got some gunslinger in him! He’s pretty fearless under pressure other than wanting to avoid taking sacks. He’ll go off script and get creative getting the ball out but he’s willing to stand in versus pressure if he feels he’s got a potential throw uncovering. 

      Arm Strength – Ball doesn’t explode off his hand and if he tries to throw across his body the ball will die on him, but he’s got enough juice to get ball home off his back foot when needed and generates PLENTY of zip for tight window throws in the red zone or when he’s driving home the ball. 

      Pocket Awareness – Peripheral vision is strong and senses flashing defenders uncovering off the edge. Willing to climb in the pocket and has shown a willingness to keep eyes downfield. Will slide laterally to buy himself extra time before flushing and rolling away from pressure. 

      Mechanics – He’s admittedly all over the map but he’s a really natural thrower, love how he adjusts his release to cater to touch, velocity or having to throw around defenders and slot ball through creases at the LOS. Pretty quick release to snap the ball out when deciding to throw. 

      Footwork – Feet get happy when he’s forced to stand in and doesn’t feel like he’s got a reliable escape route. He’ll snap release too often and can definitely find some more zip by more consistently driving into throws. Flat footed within a clean pocket, eager to stand tall and survey. 

      Mobility – Has just enough to make you miss in one on one scenarios and long strides can open up when he’s flushed out underneath to pick up some notable yardage. Will need to see how he retains fluid running skills when he adds some needed weight to his frame. 

      Best Trait – Arm Talent

      Worst Trait – Progressions

      Best Film – Houston (2019)

      Worst Film – Washington (2019)

      Red Flags – None

      Player Summary – Anthony Gordon is an exciting developmental prospect with plenty of tools at his disposal. A one year starter, Gordon needs patience and development to master timing concepts, layered reads and consistency in his work within the pocket — yet he illustrates strong arm strength, one of the more live arms in the class and a natural sense for working (and thriving) off script. He’s the preferred Early Day 3 developmental QB of the 2020 NFL Draft class

      • TomLPDX

        Wow J, that was an amazing breakdown. I will now think about a QB in the pocket surveying the field and unable to find a target as a meerkat! They all do it. The visual was just perfect! Sounds like the fundamentals are there and just need some seriously good coaching. Thanks for sharing your post above and the link to your google doc.

        • J

          Not mine someone elses.

          • Pugs1

            What’s the complaint? One year starter? So was Minchew. He Threw 16 picks? he chucked it 689 times. I’m good with 15 to 16 bad throws out of 700. Air Raid offense? Nobody is asking him to start he’s got time to learn. and Minchew got drafted. Gordon lacks a Cannon? Iv’e seen guys with worse arms get drafted. IMO his arm is way better than Fromm’s Plus he does have a quick release and a lot of touch. I think he makes the squad!

  18. Ben Ft. Worth

    I’d like to hear you’re take on CB Chris Miller out of Baylor. I hear he’s fast and likes to hit hard, but I have no idea if he’ll stick.

  19. Ben Ft. Worth

    Excuse me, Safety. Not CB.

    • Pugs1

      I’m not a expert on Baylor football but I got the impression he plays faster than he timed(looks like it on the highlights he also likes to hit) he ran a 4.66 @ the combine but DJ said he gained 10 pounds from the PA all star game to the combine weigh in. So it could have impacted his time.

      Miller also had a tough time catching the football during the combine drills. I think he’s got a chance to compete @ nickel CB and ST. I wouldn’t be shocked to see him at least make the PS.

  20. Ralphy

    Amazing job this year Rob. You would be shocked at the amount of times many of us check this site throughout the day to see if a new article is up. Thank you for helping get us through this time.

    I’m curious how you feel about Chuba Hubbard out of Ok State?

    • Rob Staton

      He runs through space very well. If he has a crease he can accelerate through the hole and it’s a touchdown. He’ll sprint away from players with ease. He glides. But at the next level he’s not going to be able to basically run straight through a hole like he does in the Big 12 and sprint for 60 yards. He’s going to have to get the tough yards, he’s going to have to create more. So while he’s a fun player and an electric playmaker in space — I’m not sure how well he’s going to translate in terms of being any more like a Phillip Lindsay compliment.

  21. Ben

    https://twitter.com/robstaton/status/12 … 4290281478

    Here’s some one on one drills of Damien Lewis. Not sure how many of you have seen this footage. I’m pumped!

    • Cheese22

      Most of the critics said he was not a good pass blocker but that video says differently. That was very impressive.

  22. Ben Ft. Worth

    Nvm lol. Just noticed that clip was from you. I just saw that for the 1st time. I’m excited!!

    • Rob Staton

      Here’s the link if anyone wants it: https://twitter.com/robstaton/status/1254496644290281478

      • TomLPDX

        Wow, that dude is a ROCK! Could you imagine having him and Duane in his prime on the left side! Wow!

      • TomLPDX

        Sorry for the double reply…This is the guy I am most excited about this year. I think he is a long-term Seahawk and will just be a bedrock player for us for years to come.

        • Cheese22

          I’m a big fan of Chris Haynes so I’m pretty pumped about our guard situation with those two.

          • STTBM

            You mean Phil?!

            • Cheese22

              Yeah…Chris was a Blazer reporter. I’m getting old.

              • Pugs1

                Saw the Seahawks cut DJ Fluker. I know it’s cap related but it also lets me know they have a lot of confidence in Lewis. BTW classy exit by Fluker. Wish him nothing but the best!

  23. Rashi

    Hey Rob,

    I was wondering if you could point me to the website that has the Sparq results. I would love to go through it myself. Great job this year!

    • Rob Staton

      Sorry man, it’s not one site I’m afraid.

    • Sea Mode

      Most here based on an attempt to reverse-engineer the Nike SPARQ formula. So nothing official, but he’s within a pretty dang close margin of error. This is only for current and past draft classes.


      If you want the official ones coming out of high school, you can look at the football recruiting player profiles on ESPN.com. Usually a google search for “player name sparq” yields that as the top result. But as Rob said, you won’t find them all on there.

  24. Gohawks5151

    Gregory Rousseau is my guy. Mentioned him a little in the past. Didn’t know he was eligible. I’m not sure if he comes out. I look at him and I see Javon Kearse. He need a little more play strength. Needs to be better using his speed as you mentioned too. But the kid has everything you want.

    Mondale is another guy I love. Kid is a freak. Tough and chippy too. Sewell is a monster. Pretty good crop at the top next year

    • Rob Staton

      Rousseau needs to learn how to rush the edge properly. If he does that he can go early.

  25. Nathan W.

    Joe Tryon is primed to explode this year for UW

    • CaptainJack

      Super curious to see if he can put it together this year. Coming off an 8 sack season, 6 of those coming in the last five games. Can he carry it over? He also has to improve his run defense or his stock will be limited. I also want to see if Levi Onwuzurike can take a step.

  26. Silly Billy

    HAMILCAR RASHED JR – Oregon State
    Recent OSU grad here so take my “homer” opinion with a grain of salt.

    ESPN lists him as an LB, but more often than not was in a 3-pt stance ready to rush the passer… had 14 sacks last year, similar measurable to Bruce Irvin. Very “leo” like.
    assuming he has a senior year like last year.. defiantly see him as a late first early second.

    • Gohawks5151

      My brotha! Go Beavs! I’m really interested to see how he tests relative to what Seattle looks for. I think he is in the ballpark. He is a weird one to watch sometimes. It doesn’t seem like he is moving all that fast but he’s always in the backfield. 20+TFLs. Heavy hands.

    • Kenny Sloth

      Beavs can go eat wood

    • CaptainJack

      Definitely one to watch. Oregon State… I want to see them finally make noise with Jonathan Smith in the PAC. Washington could be down. WSU is transitioning to a new coach. Oregon will have a new qb. Make some noise BEAVS

  27. Tecmo Bowl

    Watched some tape on Deejay Dallas, and it’s no surprise that TE Brevon Jordan is on your list. Jordan really stood out!

  28. Greg Haugsven

    Congrats ATL Nick on winning. Probably none of us deserve to win but I guess someone has to.

  29. Greg Haugsven

    Tony Pauline has a 2021 two round mock up already. He also has the simulator going with us picking at 24. He has us picking:

    Marvin Wilson DT

    Cole Van Lanen OT

    • Rob Staton

      It’s not Tony’s mock.

  30. Eburgz

    Hey Rob. Do you have any interest in doing some long form video film session of the new Seahawks draftees? Similar to what Voch Lombardi does.

    Or… to the community. Who has the best breakdowns of our new players?

    • Rob Staton

      Not really. It’s not my thing.

  31. Zxvo3

    The player I’m watching from now is Chris Olave from Ohio State. Gets separation. Plays special teams like McLaurin from a year ago.

    • Sea Mode


      Saw this from PFF while looking at other players and put him on my 2021 watch list right away. We know how much the Seahawks like WRs that get separation:


      Sophomore receiver Olave had a breakout year in 2019, separating better than anyone with his speed and route running. Over 57% of his targets thrown 10-plus yards beyond the line of scrimmage had two or more steps of separation, which both led the country and was 23 percentage points above the average. He used his strength when going up against single coverage this past season, leading to one of the 10 highest grades on such plays. Moore might be the best wide receiver in the Big Ten, but Olave isn’t too far behind.

      • Zxvo3

        Yup. I feel like since they didn’t take a receiver early this year, they may have some targets for next year.

  32. Kenny Sloth

    Better hope Stanford has another bad year so the Washington schools do can do something ✌

    • CaptainJack

      Washington may have another down year, we have no good quarterbacks and our new offensive coordinator is a complete nobody

      • Troy D.

        I think the offense will be so-so but I think the defense improves a lot. A lot of young guys took their licks last year but are talented. The key for UW is QB. Can someone be decent next year cause there is an intriguing group young receivers. May take a few games to get the offense going.

        • Big Mike

          No Spring practice and possibly limited fall camp is really going to hurt teams without a returning QB.

  33. Sea Mode

    NGL, I’m exhausted and nowhere near ready to start looking into guys for 2021. But I’ll give you some of the names I’ve collected for anyone that wants to (besides the ones you’ve listed, which are great. You know I especially like Tylan Wallace):

    DE Quincy Roche, Temple
    TE Charlie Kolar, Iowa St.
    WR Reggie Roberson, SMU
    LB Nick Bolton, Missouri
    DE Jayson Oweh, Penn St.

  34. Sea Mode


    NFL Memes

    Jameis Winston is going to fit in well in New Orleans. He’s already had five years experience throwing to Saints players.

    • TomLPDX

      HaHaHa! Love it!

  35. Sea Mode

    One of the only things I really missed seeing from normal draft format. Hopefully more of these videos trickle out:


  36. CaptainJack

    If you want to see a bit of Colby:





  37. CaptainJack

    I might be crazy but I thought Bill was going to sign jameis and turn him into a superstar. But New Orleans is cool for him also because who knows how long brees will play. Could be succeed him there? I think so.

    • CaptainJack

      I also think it would be fun if the pats signed cam newton

      • BobbyK

        But then they might end up in the Super Bowl again. That’s kind of sickening. Patriots vs. Bucs Super Bowl? Weird.

        • CaptainJack

          Sickening? Yes, but it would also be kind of epic. Brady vs Bill. The nfl might even do everything in their power to make it happen.

  38. Sea Mode

    Beast Mode


    • BobbyK

      Funny! Thanks for sharing.

  39. Bayahawk

    DJ Fluker was just released.

    • Bayahawk

      Looks like about $500k in dead money and $3.687 million in cap savings.

      • BobbyK

        Probably Haynes and Lewis at guard next year? No way Iupati will be healthy for very long. Very young pair, but vets surround them.

        • Bayahawk

          1 OL down. 435 to go!

        • Henry Taylor

          There’s also Finney, who will be in the mix for guard if Britt is kept.

        • Bayahawk

          I imagine we’ll end up with Brown – Haynes – Finney – Lewis – Shell. Backups Pocic, Jones, Ogbuehi, Simmons and maybe Roos if he can be C #3.

          • STTBM

            I think Warmack makes the team. Lots of bodies to choose from…

  40. cha

    DJ Fluker TheWarrior
    Dear 12s,

    I was released by the Seahawks today. Couple of things: I am not upset, or hurt. This is a business and one that I’ve been in for a while. I want to thank John and Pete for their very thoughtful calls.

    Stay safe, be kind and I love y’all.

    Thank you, Seattle.

    • CaptainJack

      Classy response. But I am not sad to see him go, and everyone saw this coming once we drafted Damien. Great person, but not a great player.

      Damien Lewis is locked in to start at right guard. Pete will tell him there will be a competition but that’s BS honestly. I was watching a ton of tape on him the past few days and Rob is right, top 50 player. He almost never gets overpowered. And I think this clears enough space to pick up another vet defensive lineman.

      • Rob Staton

        Fluker struggled a lot in 2019.

        And I thought all the workout tweets were him seeing the writing on the wall and trying to impress the Seahawks to keep him around.

    • Henry Taylor

      Classy guy, great personality, was a fine contributor to this team. Will be remembered fondly.

    • TomLPDX

      No! Let the man compete! I loved DJ!…bummed…

      • CaptainJack

        Damien Lewis was going to beat him out anyways. And this frees up cap space to sign another dline.

        • TomLPDX

          I know, but let me be sentimental for at least a minute, ok! I love DJ but KNOW that Lewis is our long-term RG…but still, I love all my Seahawk dudes, and DJ was awesome while he was here (even when he wasn’t)

          • CaptainJack

            We just saved 3 million though

            • TomLPDX

              Which we would have saved in a few months time anyway. I’m cool, NFL is totally a biz and I’ve known that for a long, long time.. But I still want to respond with a “Damn it, Jim, I’m a doctor (which I’m not), not a 49er fan!” 🙂 Peace bro!

      • Hawktalker#1

        I have similar feelings, but understand this is a business and was part of a plan.

    • Big Mike

      Thanks DJ. Good to see Pete and John take this step now so he can sign elsewhere if there any takers. Class move.

    • Brett

      I’ll always remember DJ for his total pancake of Suh in 2018. Grown man strength right there.

      Starts at 2:28.


  41. Coleslaw

    My least favorite picks were definitely the TEs but I get it, high upside touchdown makes for Russ. 2 shots at adding real value and quite possibly, wins.

    Russ is the engine of this team, if one of these guys can give him a big target for 5-8 TDs, that is huge for this team. Just gotta see if he clicks with them, and they’re his type. Graham got 10 TDs for us. Everyone wants to say Graham is washed up now, but hes the same as he was when he scored those 10 TDs. That gives me hope that 1 of these guys can turn into real threats.

    • CaptainJack

      Colby Parkinson was my favorite of all our picks.

      • Coleslaw

        Sell me, Cap!

        • Troy D

          Huge catch radius, great hands. Not really asked to do the blocking side in the scheme so Im hoping that doesnt mean he cant do it, its just something he was not coached on. Cause if he can develop anything as a blocker, well there is a player there. Before last season there was plenty of talk as a nd round pick and even some in the late 1st round. Im very bullish on his long term prospects.

          Also with Russ, extending plays…it will give him more time to find soft spots.

          • Pugs1

            Let’s imagine Parkinson @ 6’7″ 252lbs @ 33.5″ arms on one side and Sullivan @ 6’5″ 248lbs @ 35+” arms
            on the other. Who’s defending that in the redzone?

            • Kenny Sloth

              ONLY US

  42. CaptainJack

    DeeJay Dallas is really good in pass protection, something Travis Homer isn’t built to do. Perfect third down back for us.

    • BobbyK

      He’s so rare. A good RB in pass protection who was actually a former WR (and QB). They should be able to have some fun with him on 3rd downs in a variety of ways.

  43. Coleslaw

    Dangit man. I love Fluker/Lewis types and I was looking forward to that depth.

    Fingers crossed we sign Clowney of Griffen. I cant see Clowney signing before this Covid stuff ends, so maybe its Griffen.

  44. Bigten

    It hasn’t been said enough, Rob you are something special. Very excited for the season, and for the coming draft season.

    Side note, does the release of DJ lead to signing Griffen or Clowney?? Otherwise, why now?

    • John_s

      This might sound backwards, but it’s to do right by him.

      Releasing Fluke now allows him to latch on with another team before any type of camp starts

    • Rob Staton

      I think they just knew this was going to happen and wanted to give the Fluker the best chance to catch on somewhere else.

      • Bigten

        Reports are that Britt may be next. I get that thought, just seems odd timing. Unless they were really worried about missing out on Lewis or another guard.

        • Rob Staton

          The timing makes perfect sense really.

          Now is fair to the players having wanted to get through the draft first, seeing what they were able to acquire and what they need to do now.

          My guess is this will free up the room to sign one more DE, a running back, a DT and maybe a nickel.

  45. Greg Haugsven

    Looks like Britt might be right behind him

  46. STTBM

    Dang, I liked Fluker and felt he earned his money. He did miss games every year, and his play had seemed in decline last year, but I think they’ll miss him.I’d rather have kept him than the sad-sack Iupati.

    Hopefully Lewis is up for the task, and doesn’t get hurt.

  47. charlietheunicorn

    “Rounding out the bottom of the pack was none other than our very own Kenny Sloth… A Ducks fan of all things (-1).”

    So could we say he was slow at identifying prospects the Seahawks would take?

    I’ll let myself out, thanks. 🙂

  48. charlietheunicorn

    You can’t take anything away from Fluker….

    any man who would get into a minicooper… at his size… has to be respected.

  49. Rob Staton

    I find the Fluker and Britt news encouraging.

    Clearing that much cap space right after the draft would indicate they’re getting on with things now.

    They know full well they need a resolution to the Clowney stalemate.

    Plus they need a DT and a veteran RB. Preferably a nickel too — but they’ve always gone cheap there.

    • Greg Haugsven

      You think they would carry 5 RB’s and a FB?

      • Rob Staton

        It’s April. They’re not ‘carrying’ anyone by signing someone in April. It’s a ninety man roster.

    • TomLPDX

      Rob, I asked this in a previous thread, how long do you think it reasonable for Griffen to wait for an offer from the Seahawks?

    • Aaron

      Seems like Lewis has a good shot to be our RG1 in 2020 or maybe Warmack becuase Solari likes vets. I’m happy they’re doing something. If Britt is released then Finney for sure should be the starter with maybe Pocic as backup. Joey Hunt did his best but he’s limited.

      • Rob Staton

        I think they love Joey Hunt.

        And while he has some ugly moments — people tend to focus on those bad plays and not the many more where he generally gets the job done.

        • TomLPDX

          Thanks for validating me on this one, Rob! 🙂 I think Joey is a good backup center. He held his own last year, injury and all…

        • SoCal12

          Hunt is actually pretty solid. I’m curious though if you would start Finney or Hunt if the choice were up to you.

    • cha

      Well this is the decisive action we’ve waited for all offseason.

      This feels more like the Seahawks FO we’re used to.

    • pdway

      agree w that. proactive moves – doing it this quickly sends a clear signal that we are clearing cap space w a purpose.

  50. charlietheunicorn


    Each day of the 2020 NFL draft set records, the league said. An average audience of more than 15.6 million viewers watched Round 1 on Thursday, up 37% over 2019. More than 8.2 million watched Rounds 2 and 3 on Friday, up 40% over 2019, and Saturday’s coverage of Rounds 4-7 averaged more than 4.2 million viewers, up 32% over 2019. ~ ESPN

    • Hawktalker#1

      Covid viewers didn’t have much else to do and it WAS sports related to fill that void.

  51. KennyBadger

    Here we go…

    JC and EG

    Yee ha

    • Rob Staton

      Probably one of them. Not two.

      • STTBM

        Sadly, I think you’re right Rob. I also think Seattle will refuse to pay Clowney enough, for whatever reason, and will end up signing Griffen. I like Griffen, but I think they will overpay him. Clowney is far more versatile, and younger.

        • Rob Staton

          I think they’ve been banking on Clowney for weeks. If Clowney signs for Tennessee once the comp pick date passes, I would agree with you. But until Clowney moves on, he’ll be their primary target.

          Failing to re-sign him would have to be considered a massive failure on the FO’s behalf.

          • STTBM

            I agree. Hes a must sign for them.

          • Hojo

            I don’t think you can make that statement in isolation.

            If he’s not willing to accept a deal at their established value, then the FO is doing their job by letting him go. There are more spots in the team that need attention (DT, Nickel CB, RB, OT).

            I also think fans value Clowney more than NFL FO and analysts. I can’t remember the names, but a couple of your recent interviews with NFL analysts weren’t very complementary of Clowney.

            I’d rather they sign Griffen and fill a couple of other spots with the remaining $.

            • Rob Staton

              Then sign Griffen.

              The fact they haven’t and are waiting for JC tells you all you need to know.

              • Hojo

                Not necessarily. They may have been waiting for this week to sign anyone with the hope that Clowney would sign with them or elsewhere. I imagine a lot of deals around the league are agreed to in principle, but waiting for this week to become official based on the comp pick rules.

  52. Bayahawk

    $12.2 million in cap space cleared.

    One more veteran RB to hit FA is Samaje Perine. Released by WASH today. I wonder if there’d be any interest there. I assume we’re looking at Carson, Homer, Dallas + 1. Penny likely to the injured list to start the season.

    DTs out there aren’t in their prime but Marcell Dareus and Snacks Harrison available along with Mebane.

    DE – time to come home, Clowney.

    • Rob Staton

      I think it’ll be Crowell at RB.

      • Bayahawk

        Makes sense. Interest earlier in FA and would be a good place to add some value to his name when he needs to find a new contract next year.

      • CaptainJack

        Please no on Crowell

        • Rob Staton

          He’d be a cheap depth fill. Which is all you can expect unless they trade pick(s) for Fournette (unlikely IMO).

          • CaptainJack

            What’s wrong with rolling with who they have? Plus checking out some UDFAs.

            • Rob Staton


              • Kenny Sloth

                Two hurt power backs and some day three roster fodder no thanks

                • Hawktalker#1

                  If we pinch pennies at RB we will pay the price.

  53. HOUSE

    As previously discussed, it looks like Justin Britt is the next cut coming.

  54. NickATL

    Bwhahaha. I can’t believe I won. How random! Really it is just stealing random players from Rob’s excellent horizontal board. I meant to have Darryl Taylor on there and brain farted.

    Great work Rob. Truly top notch. I would have no idea who to look out for without this site. Your ability to identify talent and seahawk needs are remarkable. Now lets get Clowney and cap this off-season!

    • Rob Staton

      Thanks Nick! And congratulations.

    • Kenny Sloth

      Congrats NickATL, that crown is mine next year tho 👑 😂😂

      • Hawktalker#1

        Maybe you should set your sights a little lower and shoot for just getting one pick right? LOL

  55. CaptainJack

    Britt was a class act.
    Fluker also a great genuine guy

    Sad to see them go… but we signed Finney and drafted Lewis for a reason

    Time to bring in Griffen

    • Hawktalker#1

      Don’t jump the gun so fast and point right to Griffin. There is still time.

  56. CaptainJack

    Ok I’m getting a weird feeling that

    1. They feel set at edge rusher with Taylor Green Collier Robinson Mayowa Irvin and Jackson
    2. The want another dynamic interior rusher, and missed reeds production SORELY
    3. They’re clearing room and signed finney and drafted lewis to be able to make that move
    4. KC is really tight against the cap

    5… Chris Jones trade incoming?

    • Hawktalker#1

      Take a shower. That wierd feeling will probably go away . . . 😉

  57. Rob Staton

    Here’s a thought…

    Wonder if Tennessee has an offer on the table for Clowney which he could/would sign after the comp deadline passes tomorrow.

    And the Seahawks are going to try to match it.

    Thus… the activity we’re seeing now.

    We’ll see.

    • CaptainJack

      In the post draft presser PCJS basically said while they’re still looking around at the dline they feel good about the edge rushers they have and really want reed to return to his 2018 form.

      JS also pretty much said they had to move on from clowney.

      This to me… all points to a move for a pass rushing defensive tackle. Chris Jones?

      • Rob Staton

        That’s not the way that press conference went at all.

        I’m stunned people have fallen for this. Please play me at poker, all of you.

        ‘We just had to move on… we couldn’t wait any longer to sign, errr…. Benson Mayowa. So we have to move on. But you know, we love Clowney and he loved it here and we love his agent and we never rule anything out and if it makes sense we’ll rush straight over to the VMAC now print a contract off and have him signed for four years.’

        Come on people.

        • CaptainJack


          You’re right that Chris Jones is really a pipe dream.

          However, I disagree with you that the big investment is 100 percent going to be a pure edge guy. They don’t want to have a log jam at DE combined with a lack of anything at tackle. They have Reed and that’s it. Poona is not an nfl starter I’m sorry. He’s a worse nfl player than benson Mayowa is.

          • Coleslaw

            Poona is bad? Tell that to every OL who has to block him. Nothing but raving reviews from his opponents on how tough it is to block him.

            • CaptainJack

              I’m sure his teammates are going to tell him he sucks publicly to humiliate him. Come on man

              • Coleslaw

                It wasnt his teammate.

              • Kenny Sloth

                Yeah Poona’s been nice. Looks just like he did in college. Does he have limitations? Sure, who doesn’t. He’s probably at his best as part of a rotation, but that doesnt mean he cant be a starter or doesnt have valuable qualities. You’d love to upgrade both DT spots in a perfect world, but sometimes it’s too idealistic with fans

                • Scot04

                  I couldn’t believe Poona went undrafted. Was excited when we got him. I think he still has upside in his game. I think he’ll develop into much more than just a run stuffer. I think his interior pressure is only going to continue to improve.

          • Rob Staton

            I’ve never said anything other than they will sign a DT.

            But look at their history at the position. Al Woods, Shemar Stephen, Tony McDaniel etc.

            They’ll sign another player like that, not trade away multiple future picks and pay Chris Jones $23m a year.

            • CaptainJack

              They also drafted McDowell early and traded for Sheldon Richardson

              • STTBM

                Seattle doesnt value DTs like the league does. They only paid Reed because he is special and a leader, a core guy. If they intend to sign/trade for a stud DT, it would be someone to replace Bennets role. Id be shocked if they traded and paid real money to a regular DT. McDowell was not a full time DT, hes not a Chris Jones comp. Just my two cents…

                • STTBM

                  …and they refused to pay Richardson even at 8 million for one year, and they had another chance to get him back the next year on a oneyear deal, but he went elsewhere. They werent willing to pay even mid rate pay for the position.

                  • Cameron

                    To be fair, Richardson was not what they hoped for within the scheme, and certainly was not a leader in the locker room.

              • Rob Staton

                So you think that the two worst FO decisions in the PCJS era are the things to focus on here… not the countless other times they’ve added a cheap veteran?

                Come on.

          • Cameron

            Wildly inaccurate on Poona. Has been nothing but consistent as a starting level run stuffer with upside.

            • Scot04

              Totally agree

        • Coleslaw

          We should have a video chat game of poker before corona ends!

        • Hawktalker#1

          Funniest post I’ve read in a while. Well done. Errr . . . Lololol

    • Volume12

      That makes sense.

    • STTBM

      I hope youre right Rob!

  58. Bayahawk

    I’m ready to be laughed out of the room but I’d prefer a trade for Chris Jones. Pair him up with Reed, bring a ton of interior pressure and feed the quarterback to the young, hungry pups on the outside.

    • Coleslaw

      If we also added one more speedy vet DE, absolutely. But idk if we have a proven LEO outside Irvin.

      Jones would be killer though no matter what

    • Rob Staton

      Nobody will laugh you out of the room for wanting Chris Jones.

      But there’s zero chance of it happening.

      • Bayahawk

        I can dream though!

        Joking aside, I’d avoid any kind of trade that included 2021’s 1st or 2nd round pick. If Russell has any time missed for injury, Seattle would be giving up a top 5 draft pick.

        • Kenny Sloth


  59. NickATL

    Just watched this tape: https://youtu.be/NBykSvGojR0

    Lewis is spectacular. Most interior runs are behind Lewis including the goal line. The best part was how he anchored vs the pass. Burrows had a few of space to step up into the whole game. It looked like Alabama D-line gave up rushing against him in the second half. Truly dominant and what you want to see against top talent.

    I can see why the cut Fluker. 3 million for Clowney and Lewis would win the job anyway.

    • CaptainJack

      I wasn’t thrilled when we picked up but each time I watch tape on him I come away liking him more and more.

  60. Robert Las Vegas

    Rob i have been looking at the roster and the DT position. Looks like it currently could use more bodies able bodies John usually finds these guys. Al Woods type of guys. Band aids. None drafted we could use more talented it that position wouldn’t you agree

    • Rob Staton

      Yes — they will definitely sign a veteran DT.

      • Lewis

        Christian Covington (Dallas) seem like a possibility?

        Age 26
        6’3 300

        At pro day (6’2 289)
        33.25 arms
        4.9 40yd
        30.5 vertical
        9’ 3” broad
        4.43 short shuttle
        7.43 3-cone
        24 reps

        • Rob Staton


      • Hojo

        I predict Mebane at DT. I also don’t think it’s a coincidence that they’re bringing back past Hawks. In a shirt off-season, it will be a long easier for these guys to plug into a familiar system.

        • Hojo

          Short off season. Lot easier.

          Is it possible to edit a post?

  61. Volume12

    One of these teams are releasing a DT. Kinda think Seattle’s freeing up $ for that and 1 of Clowney or Griffen.

    • CaptainJack

      Don’t the ravens have a logjam? They just drafted Madubuike, and signed Campbell. How about a trade for Brandon Williams?

      • Rob Staton

        No chance.

        Again — look at what they’ve done at DT.

        It’ll be a free agent who is relatively cheap on a one-year deal.

        • CaptainJack

          What do you mean look at what “they’ve done”

          Ravens or Seahawks?

          Because if you mean Seahawks we’ve done nothing this offseason so far, but in the past drafted reed and McDowell, and then traded for Sheldon Richardson when McDowell went down

          • Rob Staton


            And I’ll say it again. You’re touting two worst decisions this front office have made. Not the many, many, many other times they’ve done what I’ve suggested.

        • Aaron

          Everyone on Seahawks Twitter wants Chris Jones but forget we just resigned Reed to be that type of DT (i.e. Run stuffing DT with pass rush ability). I agree Rob that JS and PC are gonna bring in a vet on a one year deal. They excel at bringing in those types of DTs.

          • Rob Staton

            And they’re not trading a 2021 R1 plus more to give Chris Jones $23m.

            If Jones was coming in, it would’ve been done by now for #27.

            • STTBM


              • CaptainJack

                It doesn’t have to be Jones though. I just think they’re gearing up to make a move for someone, it could even be a cut player

                • STTBM

                  As Rob said, they are bound to sign another DT or two. You think its going to be a trade and/or a big money DT? Im not sure I do, but I guess its possible, if unlikely in my eyes.

                  • CaptainJack

                    I personally think they want to add someone who’s a notch above the annual bargain bin addition but who knows

                  • Rob Staton

                    It’ll be one of the free agents at an affordable price.

    • Volume12

      If it is Clowney? That unit becomes incrediy impressive and diverse.

      • CaptainJack

        And incredibly unbalanced

        • Volume12

          How so?

          • Greg Haugsven

            He probably means a bunch of DE’s and no DT’s.

            • CaptainJack

              Yeah exactly. We don’t have a single person on the roster I’d like to see lined up next to reed on first downs. I’m not a big Poona guy

              • Volume12

                Relax. One is coming. Wouldn’t be surprised to see Seattle add more than 1 or 2 defenders. Pete ain’t gonna have a repeat of ’19.

                • Volume12

                  The draft was a domino effect and we saw that today.

                  • Rob Staton

                    They certainly aren’t carrying $23m cap space into next season.

  62. Greg Haugsven

    The Seahawks should have about $18m in cap space now after you add the rookies, Irvin, Willson, Lupati and remove Fluker and Britt.

    • KyleB

      What do you have Irvin at? I have him at 3.0 but think he may be closer to 3.25.

  63. Troy D

    How difficult does the 2021 draft become to evaluate if the college football season is cancelled or pushed off until Spring? Ive seen atleast one (I believe he referenced another), school President that has said that he sees the season being pushed later, maybe into the Spring or not played at all.

    Also with the talk of NFL games being played behind closed doors (I would consider this likely based off everything we know today and what is expected for the fall)….how much do you think that changes things from a defensive perspective (lack of crowd noise at home, etc)? Just some random queries for our gurus here.

    • SoCal12

      There’s a soccer club in Germany that’s printing out cardboard cutouts of paying fans to place around the stadium for their indoor games. Would like to see that for a closed door NFL season and like piped in crowd noises.

      • Kenny Sloth

        Closed door soccer is haunting (and somehow so much worse)

    • Lewis

      Getting pushed into the spring would create plenty of issues, though I suppose they could always move the draft later

    • Rob Staton

      I think there will be CFB it’s just a case of when and whether fans attend

      • Kenny Sloth

        What do you think about players being required to be tested before they’re allowed to retake the pitch?

        I see lots of implications to both courses and it’s been hard for me to develop a nuanced and balanced take. What’s yours if you have any/no coi

        • Rob Staton

          Eventually we have to return to normal and manage the situation. We can’t just sit indoors for 12 months. A gradual release of lockdown rules is required. They may come back again if there’s a sudden spike of cases — but by September I would imagine things will have to start turning back to normal gradually.

  64. Catharsis50

    Do the Hawks need to wait until tomorrow to sign whoever it if they plan on signing, or should we expect to see something tonight?

    • Rob Staton

      Seahawks don’t have to wait because they’re not getting any comp picks anyway.

  65. Rob Staton

    All the guessing on here, twitter and elsewhere about what they’re going to do, with all these weird and wonderful trade proposals.

    All they’re going to do is sign a cheapish DT, a DE and maybe a cheap RB.

    The main bulk of the cash will go to Clowney or Griffen.

    • SoCal12

      Which DT do you think we’re looking at? Looking at who’s available Snacks, Mebane, Christian Covington, Xavier Williams, and Mike Daniels are the best ones left. Maybe Marcell Dareus but it depends how much he’s expecting.

      • Rob Staton

        Possibly one of them

    • Steve Nelsen

      Seattle had Clowney as priority 1 from the start of FA and PCJS said just yesterday that they were still talking. They, especially Clowney, just need to get some clarity on what his market is. I think his agent had him believing in 5years/$100 million and that takes a while to move on from.

      Everson Griffen is the only relatively pricey FA guy that makes sense.

      I think it is possible that the Ngakoue situation eventually turns into another 3rd round trade, 1-year deal like Clowney but it feels too soon for that even after the meltdown before the draft. Jax has to know his value has tanked and they drafted a replacement and an angry owner can do something unpredictable.

    • Kenny Sloth

      Do you think Fournette is in play?

      • Rob Staton


  66. STTBM

    Russ tweeted a really nice goodbye to Britt. Hope he does one for Fluke too…Britt never lived up to his contract, but he is a good, solid C. Sorry to see him go, but someone will pay him more than we would. Hope he does well, just not vs Seattle!

    • Pickering

      Maybe he’s still pissed at Fluke for playing Ciara in the bedtime scene. 🙂

      • John_s

        Russ called Fluke and talked to him

      • CaptainJack

        Seattle… we’ve got a deal

        • Ben Ft. Worth

          “Go Hawks!”

  67. STTBM


  68. Troy D

    Are we expecting a TE to be cut or maybe 2? Just wondering if that is something that will come later or what (if it happens).

    • SoCal12

      I feel like that’s something they’re going to let camp competition decide. No one really feels like a lock except for Olsen kinda and Dissly but he may start on the injured list. If they did I’d say Willson and Hollister are the most on the bubble right now.

      • HOUSE

        I agree SoCal. I’m sure there will be competition through camp and Dissly’s health will determine depth.

        In my opinion, SEA will carry 4: Olsen, Dissly, Parkinson and ?
        With the drafting of Sullivan, I think he can even be viewed as a WR.

        I think that Willson and Hollister are definitely on notice. Hollister is getting $3.25M and Willson is slated to be around $1M. I think that Parkinson replaces Hollister’s role as the move TE and easy chip yards, as well as being a RZ threat.

        • Ashish

          I think both will not make to 53. Both new TE are receiver not blocking type. Hollister might be traded later.

  69. CaptainJack

    Some fan threw out the possibility of a trade for another (higher profile) defensive back, possibly a string safety, and then moving Diggs to nickel back. Thoughts?

    • STTBM

      My two cents: Seattle is set at safety. Dunbar is too good to come off the field, but they may try him outside in base, in slot with Flowers outside in nickel. The only concern is injuries: if Diggs or McD miss time, are Blair and Lano Hill ready? Can Blair play SS or is he only a FS?

      • Matt

        If you can get Jamal Adams…you make that happen.

        • Rob Staton

          They’re not trading for Jamal Adams.

    • SoCal12

      Nickle is really the only iffy spot, but I can’t really see a bug profile trade for that. At most a classic Schneider fifth rounder for a castoffs kinda thing. We’re pretty set at the other DB spots.

    • Rob Staton

      They have a gaping hole on the DL.

      They are not trading for a high profile DB.

      • Ben Ft. Worth

        We have a history of trading that 5th or 6th rd pick for a Justin Coleman or whomever during training camp. I’d expect us to do the same thing during that time of year, if we are indeed looking to acquire that type of player.

  70. Matt

    Let’s dream big…Jamal Adams…and Clowney

  71. Hojo

    I think Logan Ryan is a wildcard too. He’s still available right?

    • HOUSE

      He is a FA. I wonder if he could be looked at playing NB. The only thing there is you’ve got Dunbar & Flowers fighting for #2. Do you bring in another guy to fight for the 3rd spot?

      I am an outside the box thinker and I was thinking about Flowers and the possibility of him moving back to S. I was wondering if we’d see a CB or S drafted. I know the trade for Dunbar was kind of like drafting a CB in the 5th.

      • Hojo

        I agree, it’s unlikely they spend big on a nickel CB in FA. It is a position of need though, which is why I mentioned it as a wildcard option.

        • Dutchenstein

          After listening to Pete’s presser yesterday it really sounded like they were going to make a move at nb. So that made me wonder about Ryan. I would think he would be too expensive, but maybe at this point it won’t be too bad.
          Maybe sign him and Griffen with the money we freed up. Would probably leave a little money for a DT. If not we could release/trade Hollister.

          • Hojo

            I think Hollister and Wilson are both at risk of being released at TE. Olsen, Dissly and Parkinson are locks and the Hawks seem to be looking for another cheap option as the 4th TE.

            That would be awesome if they found a way to add Griffen and Ryan. My money is on Mebane as the cheap vet DT they sign. Bring Back the Belly Roll!

  72. Coleslaw

    I have a feeling we’re gonna resign Britt

    • Kenny Sloth

      He loves snapping the ball to Russ and if anyone else had cut someone with Britt’s profile we’d be at least sniffing around em

      • Coleslaw

        Yup, I dont buy the idea that a single ACL tear to a player who’s been as durable as Britt would make them not want him.

        His market will not be high with the lack of medical evaluations. It makes a ton of sense. Didnt they release him without a passed physical? Did they do that so that nobody would touch him?

        • Kenny Sloth

          Whoa I have no idea about that

    • Steve Nelsen

      It makes sense. A guy familiar with our system has added value this year. He is well thought of. Let him test the market and bring him back if he wants to come back at market rate.

    • Greg Haugsven

      Possibly but they could have also just asked him to take a pay cut.

    • Hojo

      I’m all for that if the price is right.

      Would that create an open competition between Britt and Finney at C? Adding Britt back to the mix in place of Hunt seems to benefit the Hawks in a couple of ways since Britt and Finney can both back up the G spot as well if needed.

      • hawkdawg

        Britt’s Instagram farewell seemed pretty final to me….

  73. Donovan

    Cap Gurus,

    With Fluker and Britt cut, how much cap space do they have left after signing draft class? Put another way, any chance of Clowney & Griffin being signed?

    • CaptainJack

      I’m not a cap guru but I saw 18 million floating around

    • Steve Nelsen

      They have enough to sign Clowney for 2 years/$32 million which is the current “guesstimate” of his short-term contract market.

      Signing Griffen and Clowney would require them to restructure Russell’s contract to convert some 2020 salary to bonus. Seattle really disfavors doing that though so I don’t expect it. I think EG is more likely Plan B if Clowney falls through.

      • Hojo

        The numbers don’t make sense to sign both Clowney and Griffen.

        In 2019, the final 53 included 9 OL and 9 DL. My understanding is that this year we’re up to 55, so let’s assume 1 more on each line max.

        1. Reed
        2. Irvin
        3. Taylor
        4. Mayowa
        5. Poona
        6. Collier
        7. Green
        8. Vet DT
        9. Vet DE
        10. Robinson / Jackson / Mone / Naz Jones / Christmas / Spend on another position

        I can’t see them cutting any of 1-7 or going into the season without adding a vet DT and vet DE. I guess it’s possible they move on from the group at #10 or count Irvin as an OLB, but it seems unlikely they add 2 more DE.

        The picture seems more clear on the OL now too:

        2. Lupati
        3. Finney
        4. Lewis
        5. Shell
        6. Haynes
        7. Ogbuehi
        8. Jamarco Jones
        9. Hunt / Pocic
        10. Warmack / Simmons / Roos / Wheeler / Fuller / Pocic / Hunt / Use on another position

        1-9 seem fairly safe which leaves a battle for the #10 spot from whoever has shown the most promise.

        Do you guys see anything I missed or adjustments that you’d make?

        • Greg Haugsven

          Looks about right for both lines

          • Greg Haugsven

            Here is about what the cap looks like.

            Current about $12.1
            Just added $12.1 by releasing Britt and Fluker ($24.2)
            Add in two guys top 52 at $750k each ($22.7)
            Net cap space for rookies is about $2.2 ($20.5)
            We still have to enter Willson, Lupati and Irvins vap hits that we dont know yet which should be about net of $2.5 ($18)

            That should give us roughly around $18m

            • Greg Haugsven

              So Willson signed an MSB contract which means he will only take up a out $137k of cap space. Looks like Lupati’s is a one year $2.5m deal which will eat up an extra mill so we should have around $17m in space.

        • James

          I believe the roster extends to 55 this season, and the game day roster from 46 to 48, with one of the two extra players being an OL. So, we can expect the Seahawks to carry 10 or even 11 on their 55 man roster this year.

        • Spencer

          Iupati, with an I instead of an L.

  74. Kenny Sloth

    OL has been OVERHAULED they must feel really strongly about a lot of their signings.

    No excuses for this FO.

    Rob, do you think either HC or GM could EVER be on the hotseat? Like would a losing record even put them in danger?

    It feels like there is very little pressure on this franchise to get over the hump.

    • charlietheunicorn

      Not Rob, but essentially, no. You do not have sustained success in an NFL franchise and then give the GM/HC the boot. PC and JS will work with the Seahawks for as long as they want…. But, I can’t see PC coaching much past 3-4 more years. IF he gets to the SB and wins, he may very well retire then.

      • Robert

        A late response, but worth noting that the most successful franchise in my lifetime of watching the NFL (1970’s on) is most likely Pittsburgh – and they’ve never fired a head coach in that time.

    • Rob Staton

      Nope. They are here as long as they want to be.

  75. RWIII

    L.S.U. was loaded. The Tigers had 14 players drafted. It should be no surprise that they beat Alabama/Clemson. Go 15-0 and win the National Championship.

    • Producehawk

      Plus Moss really should have been drafted

  76. RWIII

    Tomorrow will be an interesting day. We will if a team like Tennessee has a deal in place for Clowney. Seattle did clear 12mil in cap space so maybe John Schneider has something up his sleeve. Expecting the worst but hoping for the best.

  77. charlietheunicorn


    The Eagles GM just admitted they tried to get too cute with the QB draft in 2012 and missed out on a target at QB… and that is why they took Jalen Hurts in the second round. Yes, they are talking about RW and that they should have taken him 1 round pervious to round 3 in 2012.

    • Coleslaw

      I love Hurts and Pederson together. If Hurts turns into something Wentz would fetch a pretty penny.

      • CaptainJack

        There is a certain internet-famous eagles fan I got genuinely worried for after they selected Hurts…

        • Coleslaw

          Lmao he was trippin!

          • Greg Haugsven

            I cant think of a QB that has played for Philly that has failed. Seems like every QB they touch works out.

    • Rob Staton

      Eagles fans should be excited about that pick, not annoyed.

      Wentz is not reliable. There’s a weird dynamic in that locker room. And Hurts is not only talented — he’s a fantastic leader.

      Now they have a chance to let this play out for a year and for all the pissing and moaning about a R2 pick… they can get that back and more if they decide to move Wentz.

  78. CaptainJack


    Watch 72, Brandon Shell

    • Justin Mullikin

      Thank you for the clip. I am actually pretty excited about our O-line. With the recent cuts the free agency moves now make a lot of sense. Sign Bell Release Britt (save cap space) Draft Lewis, Release Fluker (save cap space).

    • Hawktalker#1

      Works for me

  79. CaptainJack


    Watch 63, Right Tackle Chad Wheeler

  80. EranUngar

    They stated clearly that the plan for the OL will be based on “continuity”.

    They sure have a strange way to implement that noble principle.

  81. CaptainJack


    Pretty cool article about Benson Mayowa. We make fun of him here a bit because he’s not Clowney or Griffen, but he could help us a lot. Has the second fastest pass-rush get off in the league behind Brian Burns. Had 7 sacks last year as a rotational guy in Oakland. He says he feels like he hasn’t even had his best season yet. You’d have a hard time convincing me he doesn’t deserve a roster spot here this season. Hidden gem.



    • Steve Nelsen

      Seattle signed Mayowa as a LEO project because he had a great get-off. He has gotten stronger and learned from some pro coaching and he already knows our system which is important this offseason. He is a great fit for a LEO rotation. With our draft, a rookie/Mayowa rotation is a big upgrade at that spot from last year.

    • HOUSE

      He’s also a former Seahawk that got cut, played elsewhere and returned. As long as he’s not as much as a headache as the last one and is productive, I’m good with it.

  82. Forrest

    Here’s a prediction. Seahawks sign Darqueze Dennard tomorrow.

    • Rob Staton

      They’ve never paid out for the nickel position before, so I think it’s unlikely.

      A free agent DT plus Clowney or Griffen is likely it — and a veteran RB.

  83. Coach

    Time to get aggressive! I’m rooting for these 3 signings to take us to the next level! (can we afford these three?!)

    DT Covington 1 year 3 million
    DE Clowney 3 years 48 million
    RB Fournette 1 year 4.5 million (2021 5th round pick)

    Let me know if you think there are better options at each position! It sounds like we’re ready to make moves now, so I’m looking forward to who this board thinks would be great fits!

    Go Hawks!!

  84. millhouse-serbia

    I was the first one who spoke about potential trade for Chris Jones (two months ago). But I don’t see it now, because if KC wanted to trade him they would add DT in this draft class.

    But I know a team that have two great players at position and just spent 2nd round pick on same position. Jets at safety.

    And I completely agree with @hawkblogger who thinks that what Pete said on last presser about nickel position, is that seahawks will play much more defense with 3 safety.

    • Rob Staton

      They are not trading for Jamal Adams.

      They’ve created the room to sign a veteran DT, Clowney or Griffen and maybe a RB and/or nickel.

  85. Mark

    Here is a thought, with the CFB season seriously in doubt. How would this impact next years draft? With less time for player development and scouting. It might be worth it to trade for a proven nfl player with next years draft capital? Do you base your draft evaluation on 2019 film? Assuming the hawks pick at the end of the first round again. It might not be a bad idea to explore a trade for Chris Jones.

    • Rob Staton

      A trade for Chris Jones is not happening.

      They’ve created this cap room not to spend $23m a year on one player. They’ve created this cap room to sign Clowney or Griffen and a free agent DT.

  86. Spencer

    With the releases of Fluker and Britt, the off-season plan starts to slowly make a little sense.

    Lets all cross our fingers that Clowney is brought back, and all of the sudden the team looks pretty strong almost everywhere with a good mixture of veterans and youth at every position (despite uncertainty on the OL).

    A cheap DT is almost a certainty as always, they’ve gotten great production out of short-term and cheap prove-it contracts like Clinton McDonald, Al Ford, Kevin Williams. There are some intriguing options on the market. Turn the stones over on Snacks and Marcell Dareus first, as they had down years but were productive as recently as the year prior. Mike Daniels isn’t what he once was, but is still pretty productive. Corey Liuget or Brandon Mebane are also guys who could function as rotational DTs.

    As far as Nickel CB goes, Pete and John mentioned that they have some plans there. McDougald has shown the ability to be a big nickel before and I’d love to see him reprise that role. When we go to our Nickel formation, McDougald could take over the slot and that would allow a clear path for more playing time for Blair. He needs to get a bigger chunk of reps to become the player we hope for. Amadi can also play a majority of the snaps against teams with speedy / shiftier slot WRs.

    • Spencer

      The biggest unknown for me is what they plan to do at DE if Clowney is brought back. That would put us at 3 Leos (Irvin, Green, Taylor) and 5 5Ts (Clowney, Mayowa, Robinson, Collier, Jackson) that would be difficult to cut. Jackson would almost certainly be gone, but is it likely that they carry 7 DEs on the roster?

      Many of the flexibility to play inside so its possible they carry 3 DTs (or 4 maximum). Also, with Irvins flexibility to play LB, one of Griffin, Barton or BBK become redundant. I think that Griffin’s likely gone.

      • mishima

        Correct if wrong:

        LEO: Mayowa, Taylor, Robinson, and Griffen (FA)

        5 Tech: Green, Collier, Clowney (FA)

        IMO, Irvin is more a SAM, now, and Griffin is ST/WILL/LEO (in desperate times)

  87. Ulsterman

    I think I read somewhere they see Irvin going back to his old role of lb and specialist rusher.
    I could see the nickel being TJ Carrie, who they met with a few weeks back and the rb being Crowell.

  88. Ulsterman

    scratch that carrie signed with collts

  89. millhouse-serbia

    After cutting Britt and DJ, adding Iupati, Brooks and Taylor (all other picks have cap hit around 750k) we are at around 19mil SC. My guess is Irvin cap hit is around 4mil so our SC with him is around 16mil (for functional, true cap space we need to subtrack 3-4 mil more for PS and IR but that’s only before league start).

    So if league would start tomorrow we would have around 12-13mil for new signings. But we could spent tomorrow all 16 mil, just we would need to create that additional 3-4 mil before September.

  90. millhouse-serbia

    Matty Brown on Brooks coverage:

    The guy has slot corner footwork in coverage. Yet people are saying he is bad at coverage because Texas Tech almost exclusively used him as a spy in 2019. lmao this business is stupid.

    If Jordyn Brooks had run the 3-cone and short shuttle, he’d have been taken before Seattle’s first round pick. That’s the take.

    • Rob Staton

      I do not agree with Matty

      • Henry Taylor

        Have you had the time to dig into his tape yet?

        • Rob Staton

          Yes. I’ve written an article. Will be published later today.

          • Henry Taylor

            Cool looking forward to it, I’ve come around on the pick a bit myself. But I still don’t understand why they wouldn’t prefer Willie Gay (or a different position).

            • Rob Staton

              I have a theory on why in the article.

    • GoHawksDani

      I don’t like FG…but Matty is a good tape evaluator

      • Robert

        Matty’s not at FG anymore. But Sam Gold is doing some with there this summer, and he had exactly the same take.

  91. millhouse-serbia

    Rob,no need to repeat myself how much I respect you and your opinion about draft and seahawks…

    And when I don’t agree with you, it doesn’t mean I think you are wrong and I am right because it are only opinion on something that is not factual…we can only guess what they will do, we cant be sure…and I agree that potential trades for Chris Jones and jamal Adams are something that probably wont happen but we are here to talk and debate about different possibilites…

    And when its about signing Griffen and Clowney…

    for example two guys on seahawks twitter I appreciate the most are @hawkblogger and @CHawk_Talk (Chriss Cluff)…those are two extremely educated and smart persons who follow and write about seahawks for years (decades)…and Chriss also said , after Pete last presser, that he wouldn’t be surprise at all if they don’t sign any new DE(Griffen , Clowney), because to him it sounded like Pete loves rookies and is suttisfied with new addition…

    Again, I am not saying that the ones who think they will sign them(it looks like its majority) are right or wrong, just that opinions are divided…

    • Rob Staton

      There is 0% chance of a Chris Jones or Jamal Adams trade.

      It’s a waste of everyone’s time. I shouldn’t have to waste mine explaining why.

      And I shouldn’t have to keep explaining Carroll’s comments either.

      I want to play you all at poker. For big money. Because I’ll be able to afford a world cruise based on the way you are all taking Carroll’s words on face value.

      No, they are NOT satisfied with Mayowa, Irvin, Green and Collier.

      Come on.

      It’s obvious what is going to happen. They are going to try and sign a defensive tackle and one of Clowney or Griffen.

      • hawkdawg

        Rob, you spent a lot of bandwidth before this draft insisting that the Hawks were screwing up by not signing Clowney, and in that process repeatedly pointing to Carroll’s post-season insistence that doing so was a high priority. I of course agree that improving the pass rush by signing Clowney would be great and that the Hawks wanted to do so, but I sure didn’t put stock in Carroll’s words alone, at all.

        This is the same guy who said at the same post-season conferences that he would really like to keep the OL together!! It is painfully clear now that he had no intention whatsoever to do so. Pete says what he says for reasons. And he is clearly quite willing to say things he knows are not true. That’s fine with me, actually, if he gets the right results.

        • Rob Staton

          You’re spending a lot of ‘bandwith’ reading into things too much.

          Carroll has consistently been very open and honest during interviews. He doesn’t lie. When he said he wanted continuity on the O-line, I suspect at the time he probably did. Everyone does. It’s hardly a massive statement. Consistency is crucial. That they’ve made some new additions instead is no review on what he says in press conferences.

          But to use that and try and suggest this tells us anything about his position on Clowney is just so manufactured. They’ve been waiting since day one of free agency to get Clowney. If they didn’t want him they would’ve signed someone else by now. He is clearly the priority they said he was right from the beginning.

          And he might sign this week. Or he might sign somewhere else.

          But they wanted him. They just want him at their price.

    • Ulsterman

      I was actually more hopeful for Clowney after watching the press conference and specifically Pete’s comments. He said something like “he knows he’s had success here and he’s been happy here”, definitely sounded to me that he’s still a real possibility.

    • Ghost Mutt

      I’m getting to that point too.

      If Clowney or Griffen were a LEO it’d still make sense to bring them in, but with Mayowa, Greene, and Collier all playing 5T, they may feel they’ve invested enough resources in that spot and it’s time to make do. It’s clear they think more of of the Mayowa / Irvin signings than the fans do.

      I’d still prefer we bring one of them in though – PC called out that Greene and Collier will both be in the running for 3T on passing downs, so they’d get snaps there.

      • Rob Staton

        They’ve already stated Mayowa is a LEO. He is NOT a five technique.

        Collier and Green have to prove they deserve to be in the NFL.

        Come on guys.

  92. clbradley17

    WAY off topic – the latest Bar Rescue, which aired Sun. night, is called “Beast Rescue” with Marshawn Lynch. The episode info says “In Oakland, NFL legend Marshawn Lynch calls for help to get his family in line at his bar, Rob Ben’s.” The first few seconds show Marshawn pouring himself a drink by himself alone in the bar after hours while a director or someone in the background is saying “Marshawn, can we get an interview? Marshawn?” Then Marshawn walks over and sits down at the bar alone with a shot of whiskey or bourbon, looks to the camera and says “You’ll be able to edit this shit, right?”

  93. millhouse-serbia

    I have just checked Titans compensatory picks for 2021…they are set to gain one 3rd round comp pick for Jack Conklin, so it does have sense for them to wait today 4pm et to sign someone…

    • Rob Staton

      Yep. It’s entirely possible the Seahawks are preparing to ‘match’ any offer Tennessee has made and try to get Clowney, finally.

      And if they fail, it’ll probably be Everson Griffen.

  94. Brian Sanders

    C- according PFF. Now I firmly believe PC and JM did something right when we get graded poorly.

    • Sebastian

      If we would have picked Queen and Weaver we would propably got an A-
      Don’t think they would have been better fits. Time will tell…

      • Rob Staton

        PFF’s way of doing things is… strange.

        For example. They have their own ‘grades’. And then they stick to them religiously. Case in point. Their mock drafts are always all over the place and unrealistic. They don’t project, they simply apply ‘their’ grades to what they think teams ‘should’ do. That’s not a mock. It’s telling everyone you know best.

        And it continues into their post-draft analysis. They did a podcast yesterday where they criticised Miami for taking Austin Jackson at #18 instead of Josh Jones. This is all because ‘they’ graded Jones very highly. Yet the NFL determined Jones was only a third round prospect. They think the Dolphins should’ve ignored whatever intel the league had on Jones to take him two full rounds earlier than he went. Rather than question what they got wrong or why Jones fell, they just assume they knew best and now they’re going to criticise Miami for not doing what they think is best.

        IMO that undermines the work they do. They should be willing to self-scout a bit. Or understand that their grades are not sacrilege.

        Jordan Elliott was the other one. You’d think he was a sure-fire first rounder based on their analysis. I watched the tape and saw very little to get excited about. He goes late R3.

        • millhouse-serbia

          Completely agree. And not just them. There are lot of analysts who for example graded some player as 1st rounder, he goes at late 3rd and they praise team who took him. Yep guys , but that team also missed on him in first and second round, and there is a reason for it. Or you missed and graded him to high, or he has some problems you don’t know, or you know better than all 32 nfl teams.

  95. Trevor

    Rob simply incredible draft season for you and the Blog this year. If you were being graded it would be an A+++ and top 3 pick for sure. You have taken the quality and quantity of your content to a whole other level. This blog has literally become my one stop for all things Seahawks.

    Thanks for all you do and congrats on the mock draft result 28 correct is incredible and a testament to your overall draft analysis not just for the Hawks.

    This blog, your content and mediation, the other posters and this years draft have been a bright ray of sunshine for all us Hawks and draft fans during this difficult time for everyone. Whenever you feel frustrated or a little down I hope you always know just how much you are truly appreciated by your entire community here on the blog.

    • Rob Staton

      Trevor, thank you so much for those words. It’s greatly appreciated. Thank you as well for being an important part of the community.

      • clbradley17

        +12 with Trevor. You just keep raising the bar. This draft year it seems you’ve done more and expanded all that you do, longer and more detailed articles almost every day, and the interviews have been outstanding. Not sure how you get any sleep, with adding in the multiple podcasts with Brandon/others and your own on YouTube. Thanks for a great draft season, and hopefully the Seahawks will give us all more to be excited about soon with signings of either Clowney, Griffen or Harrison, or even better – at least 2 of them.

  96. Trevor

    The cutting of Britt and Fluker made a ton of sense given the other needs they have and moves they have made. I think They are set at Guard going forward with Haynes and Lewis. Two enormous and explosive athletes who seem ideal for Solari’s scheme.

    I would be shocked if the Hawks do not sign a vet DT and either Clowney or Griffen in the next 2-3 days. If they can make if work for Clowney I think KJ and Hollister could also be cap casualties. I think they also need to find a veteran slot option. JS needs to finds Coleman 2.0

    This Weeks Hawks Plan IMO

    -Sign Clowney or Griffen
    -Sign Vet DT (run stuffer)
    -Sign Veteran Slot CB for depth, competition
    -Sign veteran RB with special teams value

    If they could make these three moves then the rest of the draft / off season makes more sense.

    • Rob Staton

      The only thing I disagree with is KJ Wright.

      He’s not going anywhere.

      They needed to cut him weeks ago to max out the value and they didn’t. If they were cutting him now they would’ve done it yesterday with Britt and Fluker. They talked so positively about Wright in their press conference after day one.

      He is on this roster in 2020 as a cast-iron lock.

      The moves yesterday created the room they needed to get stuff done. If others leave now it’ll be Brandon Jackson types.

      • Trevor

        I agree about KJ. The only reason I mentioned him was if they need to find a way to fit Clowney in cap wise. But they can likely make that work with Hollister and some of the other RFA etc.

      • Sea Mode

        Should they try to re-structure KJ or just eat the cap hit this year and be done with it?

        • Rob4q

          For KJ, it probably will only happen if that money is needed…if it’s not, they roll with it this season and he’s off the books after that.

          As far as Hollister, PC had some really interesting things to say about him during one of the pressers. Mainly that they loved how he competed and showed up last year and that he offers a different skill set than the other TE’s in the room. Said there are some unique things they can do with Hollister and are “fired up” to see it happen this year. I don’t think he’s going anywhere either. Now Willson on the other hand I think is gone…

          • Von

            He needs to take Bellores FB spot.

    • GoHawksDani

      I agree and like this plan.
      Would like a DT with passrush upside, but I doubt they’ll go that way
      I hope they add a good vet nCB. Massive need. I’ll need a ton of alcohol if they’ll running 3LB base D again

  97. Sea Mode

    Haha, yep. Literally me the past two days:


  98. Imani

    Remaining Free Agents I think Seattle should consider


    Devante Freeman
    Isaiah Crowell


    Taylor Gabriel
    Paul Richardson


    Jordan Reed


    Jason Peters
    Corty Glenn


    Jadeveon Clowney
    Everson Griffin
    Damon “Snacks” Harrison
    Mike Daniels
    Marcell Dareus
    Cameron Wake
    Markus Golden


    Logan Tyan
    Darqeuz Dennard
    Tramon Williams


    Eric Reid
    Tony Jefferson
    Morgan Burnett

    • Trevor

      I did my own list with a Veteran + Younger or Reclamation project for postions that don’t seem set.


      Carlos Hyde (vet min)
      Isaiah Crowell (kick returner)


      Josh Gordon (Pot is legal now making Gordon an option)
      Paul Richardson (ideal 4th WR on a cheap deal)

      Position is set


      Corty Glenn (vet min OT to come in and compete for backup swing tackle)


      Jadeveon Clowney (should still be option #1)
      Everson Griffin (option #2)
      Vinny Curry (option #3)


      Mike Daniels (great vet option if health checks out)
      Christian Covington (athletic run stuffer who is still young)


      Veron Hargreaves (reclamation project as a slot CB)
      Darqeuz Dennard

      • Coleslaw

        Hyde is still available? He’d be a fantastic addition and a nice compliment to Carson.

      • Rob Staton

        Hargreaves signed back with Houston

  99. Sea Mode

    Jim Nagy

    Best Day 3 Picks – NFC WEST
    #Seahawks: Syracuse DE Alton Robinson 5th Rd. It’s hard to find pass rush help this late in draft and Robinson could be a factor on sub-downs as a rookie. One of most underrated edge players in draft. Plays bigger and longer than he measured. Had Day 2 grade on him last summer.

  100. Sea Mode

    Hmmm. So, apparently, the Bucs had been looking to trade up all the way since pick 7 for Wirfs. They knew about Staley’s probable retirement and feared SF was gonna take him, so they called and ended up giving up their R4 to move up a spot.

    SF’s luck to get extra picks while still getting the guy they would have taken anyways amazes me…

    9:36. “I don’t think we can mess around here,” Licht says, as San Francisco (13) goes on the clock. But why? Why not just sit at 14 and pick the last tackle of the great prospects, Tristan Wirfs of Iowa? Licht had some intel that Niners starting left tackle Joe Staley was going to retire. So the free world was certain this next pick for the Niners was a great wide receiver or Javon Kinlaw, the defensive tackle who could replace the traded DeForest Buckner. Licht said: “Call A.P.” John Spytek, the personnel director, had been talking with San Francisco VP of player personnel Adam Peters during the week. Licht wanted this deal, and he wanted it now. “The Staley stuff scared me,” Licht said later. “The Niners could definitely be a tackle team.”

    9:37. The GM side of Licht’s brain didn’t want to move up one spot and surrender a good pick (fourth round, 117 overall), while getting a seven in return. He know it might take that, but he wasn’t ready to make the offer yet. “A six,” he tells Spytek. “Start with that.” Spytek calls Peters.

    9:39. Spytek calls Peters again. Is on hold with him. “They’re thinking,” Spytek tells the group.

    9:40. Still on hold.

    9:41. R-r-r-r-ringggggg! Licht’s phone. He answers it, annoyed. “Nothanksnothanks,” he says quickly and hangs up. Trade offer he had no interest in. All that matters now is the Niners. Spytek has made the final offer: San Francisco trades a one and a seven (13 and 245) to Tampa Bay for a one and a four (14, 117).

    9:42. Waiting.

    9:43. Niners say yes, Spytek reports. “Do it,” Licht says. Licht looks at the clock. Just 1:31 remains in the Niners drafting period. Now Greenberg calls NFL trademeister Ken Fiore to report the deal; a Niners counterpart does the same to another member of Fiore’s team.

    9:44. “We good?” Licht says to the Cisco group. Yes, he’s told; trade accepted. Mike Biehl fills in the card for the league office, notifying them of the pick. Licht looks at the clock . . . 45 seconds left in the period. Plenty of time!

    9:45. Licht dials Tristan Wirfs, in Mount Vernon, Iowa, to tell him (not in so many words) that he’d better get ready to block for Tom Brady. “Tristan!” he says. “Jason Licht with the Bucs. We just moved up to San Francisco’s pick here. We’re gonna take you . . . Okay? . . . Yeah . . . Coach is gonna call you. FIRED UP!”


  101. Coleslaw

    Ourlads has updated their take on the depth chart to include rookies. Not the cuts yet though.


  102. Coleslaw

    If the plan is for Mayowa to play LEO, that leaves us with only Green, Collier and Branden Jackson as 5Ts. Need the Clown

    • Logan Lynch

      And if they sign Clowney, they could always release Jackson later and save some cap.

    • Sea Mode

      From the call itself: https://twitter.com/Seahawks/status/1253849641684066305

    • Steve Nelsen

      I love stuff like this Sea Mode. Thank you for sharing. You are one of the good ones on this site.

      • clbradley17

        Great find Sea Mode! DK Metcalf’s call was awesome last year.

  103. Logan Lynch

    I agree that there will be additions on the DL. Others, including myself, said this after the draft was done. Sign a vet DE (Clowney or Griffen) and a vet DT. Maybe a vet RB. Using more S as a nickel? We’ve said that before too. That’s how you get Blair, McDougald, and Diggs all on the field at the same time.

    Remember when Pete used to play young players and they would get better as the season went along? Remember when Pete preached competition and had guys fight for their spots? Here we go. A little more strategically this time though.

    • Coleslaw

      I don’t see them adding a NCB. We have options there. Amadi of course, the safeties you mentioned, one of Flowers/Dunbar, and they brought up Linden Stephens as a guy they like there. I mean they spent most of last year with Jamar Taylor lol

      • Logan Lynch

        Agreed. I’m sure some UDFA will be tried there too. Pete talked about playing Kendricks at nickel last year. It makes sense to me to split the difference and try a S there. Bigger than a CB, but smaller than Kendricks. Possibly a bit slower than a CB, but faster than Kendricks. HIts better than a CB, covers better than Kendricks (we hope). Seems like something worth trying at least.

        • Coleslaw

          For sure, I want BMac to play there but we need Blair to step up and get on the field first. Take a page out of Philly’s book

  104. pdway

    Wonder if part of the Clowney holdup is length of contract (and w that – amount of guaranteed money). the money being thrown around as the yearly number doesn’t seem out of bounds at all – but could be the Hawks want him on a 3-yr (or even 2-yr) deal, which would make some sense given the injury issues – and he wants 5 years, or something along those lines.

    • Steve Nelsen

      I also think contract length has been a part of the issue. Initial reports (no doubt from Clowney’s agent) was 5yrs/$200-220 Million. Seattle doesn’t do 5 year extensions. When he moved to a “short-term deal, he wanted 1-year but that meant Seattle would have to eat the whole cap hit immediately which wasn’t going to happen without cutting some guys.

  105. Bigten

    Loving the look ahead to the 2021 draft. And is it just me, or does it seem like another great WR draft class? Can see another 10 very good WR about to be available.

    Also, after watching the Chris Miller highlights, how was he not drafted? Are there red flags or just something i missing on the highlights (granted i know they are highlights and not every play)? Because he looked fast and instinctive and hit hard.

  106. Matt

    After listening to more interviews and just generally doing more research/reading – while I don’t necessarily agree with all the picks; I am actually inclined to think that PC/JS did in fact go BPA.

    What really sold me was the “we were thinking of taking Darrell in R1…” What does that tell you? It tells me that despite the massive hole at pass rush – they picked what they perceived as the superior player. Great part, is they still go their guy at pass rush.

    I think the most promising picks are Damien Lewis and Colby Parkinson – the “need” was far less and both guys were picked with some really, really great talent left on the board. Lewis in particular, I think, 100% spurred the DJ Fluker release. And I’m very much inclined to agree with Rob – I think Lewis was absolutely a top 50 talent – and realistically, you could make the argument that he was even more highly rated if not for his position having lesser value in the eyes of the NFL.

    All in all – I’m cautiously optimistic, but I at least wanted to acknowledge that I do think PC/JS truly did a BPA draft. We shall see how it plays out.

    • Steve Nelsen

      Nice post 👍

    • Sea Mode

      When asked which player they were most surprised to see still available to them, PC said Darrell Taylor, JS butted in and said Damien Lewis.

    • dcd2

      Well said, Matt. I like the way you’re looking at it. I was really bummed about those picks, because I was more focused on the ‘need’ aspect. I thought we passed on a lot of good guys to take Lewis and Parkinson, but you’re right: that’s exactly the point. They must really love those guys in order to pass up on so much other talent, that would have fit better needs.

      I’m coming around on this group.

  107. HOUSE

    Interesting to see Sullivan listed as “Our newest WR”…


    • Matt

      I think he and Parkinson are really just “big weapons.”

      Neither guy contributes anything to the blocking game – I think Parkinson can be developed to be adequate (maybe) but I think ultimately both of these guys are going to be given a chance to dominate 3rd down and the red zone. The nice thing is they are big enough to at least disrupt in the run blocking game. They can potentially make that 3rd and 4-5 much more interesting.

      • Derek

        I didn’t think much of Parkinson’s blocking ability but the tape against Northwestern (below), he surprised me with his willingness to block.


        He isn’t blowing anyone up but he does take on DEs, line up next to the takle periodically, and make key blocks on several plays. He was also creatively used as a lead blocker on WR screens when lined out wide, too.

        Look for blocks at:


        Again, he ran routes more often than blocking and he’s not a polished blocker at this point but with some coaching and a little weight added on, could be very productive in that area.

  108. WALL UP

    HB/FB? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=svsQQCZ7iIE

    • Derek

      Hmm.. I do like his physicality in the blocking game.

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