A quick note to the community
Usually at this time of year I finish off a few articles and take a break. I’ve decided not to do that this year. At least not yet. Instead I’ve decided to get right into watching and discussing 2021 prospects.
I’m doing this for two reasons.
Firstly, I thought it was telling that Seattle targeted two players who were highly rated 12 months ago but then had circumstances impact their stock. Darrell Taylor and Colby Parkinson were both said to be potential first round picks last summer. Their stock never really took off. But it goes to show — players who identify as potential first rounders can have an impacted final season but retain a high overall grade. For that reason, I want to get an angle on this class now, not just in the fall.
Secondly, I’ve been energised by how people have responded to the blog during this lockdown. People have said it has been a positive distraction and a place where we can talk about something a bit less serious and fun. If we can keep that going for a bit longer, then I’m going to go for it. I’ll keep putting material out — perhaps not every day, but most days — while ever people continue to visit, contribute and discuss in the comments section. If it flattens out and people move on — that’s fine. I’ll take a break. As long as you want this place though, I’m going to keep writing.
Initial thoughts on Jordyn Brooks
I’ve now had an opportunity to watch Brooks. Everything you’ve read or heard over the last few days is relatively accurate.
For example — the concerns about his ability in coverage. It’s understandable why you can single that out as a problem and you can also understand why John Schneider disagrees. The likes of Patrick Queen, Willie Gay and Logan Wilson were adept at dropping and settling in coverage. They’re agile and capable of sinking into a low base and covering ground quickly. That’s not Brooks’ game. So if you’re turning on the tape and trying to make an apples for apples comparison with Queen, Gay and Wilson (as I imagine most analysts will) — then you can easily make the case for saying he’s inferior in coverage to those three.
I don’t think he’s bad in coverage rather it’s just not the strong point in his game. He can move and that shouldn’t be a surprise given his 4.53 speed. My suspicion is if he’d run a short shuttle and three cone it’d be nearer to K.J. Wright’s 4.46 and 7.26 than Cody Barton’s 4.03 and 6.90. They are different players, with different roles.
Brooks is a thumper with speed. He flies to the ball carrier — whether that’s on a designed blitz or if he’s in read/react. It was satisfying to see him attack the perimeter the way he does. He does a good job sifting through the traffic to find a lane to the ball carrier. His acceleration flashes time and time again. When he makes a decision to pursue, he goes through the gears quickly and he’s a violent, jarring hitter.
Texas Tech had him read the quarterback a lot and attack the LOS.
Remember this tweet by Brian Baldinger?
.@Seahawks @Bwagz is the one MLB I would study nonstop if I was a young linebacker and wanted to play at a pro bowl level. Speed is great, but diagnosing the play first; and then trusting your speed and angles is better. #BaldysBreakdowns pic.twitter.com/tDqspQM1gk
— Brian Baldinger (@BaldyNFL) May 20, 2019
“Speed is great, but diagnosing the play first; and then trusting your speed and angles is better.”
That’s a good way to sum up how Brooks was used in college. He was seemingly given the trust and the freedom to be patient — to assess what was happening and then use his speed to make a play. And he was good at it. It’s why he ended up with 20 TFL’s. Considering the Big-12 is full of spread out offenses he was quite adept in using the space to his advantage. He can sift through the bodies and if anything was bounced outside — there’s a reasonable chance he could chase them down. Even in the Big-12 it’s not easy to give yourself the time to assess what’s going on and still have the athleticism to make a play. Split seconds are huge in college, not just the NFL. Brooks has the necessary physical profile to play intelligent, fast, patient football.
That matters a lot more than you realise. How many linebackers do you see run head-first into trouble, lose contain or get themselves into bother? Even Devin Bush the #10 overall pick last year was too aggressive at Michigan and regularly gave up long gains in the running game due to a lack of patience. There’s no such issue here — and that’s a big deal for a young linebacker who wants to get involved and wants to be a big part of the defense. You can trust him to have a look and react. Then, he attacks.
Brooks is somewhere between Wagner and K.J. Wright. He has the quickness to exploit opportunities off the read/react like Wagner and certainly shares Wright’s toughness and length — but he also has some of the stiffness. That sounds unflattering and critical of Wright but that’s not my intention. He has plenty of other strengths — you just don’t want him isolated in an unfavourable coverage matchup. You want him up at the LOS, reading and attacking. It’s the same for Brooks.
He’s not Telvin Smith or Lavonte David. He’s not Leighton Vader Esch. He’s a lot closer to Ray Lewis in terms of style of play (I’m not saying he’ll be Lewis — simply that he’s that type of linebacker). He’s an inside guy. He needs to play the MIKE or WILL for Seattle. His combination of speed, toughness and power will give him a good opportunity to be very effective in Seattle’s traditional scheme in either role.
I came away believing that this pick is not a replacement for Mychal Kendricks or any steer towards them continuing to play a lot of base defense. Brooks is more than likely a long-term replacement for Wright — with the versatility to play MIKE if needed. He can feature at SAM in certain scenarios if they want three linebackers on the field. That position, to me, didn’t really feel like a fit. He’s much more suited to playing inside and getting his hands dirty — attacking the LOS and flying to the ball.
It doesn’t make any sense for Wright to play 90% of the snaps any more. He played 93% in 2019 and Wagner 98.32%. Brooks can take some of that workload and fit into three-linebacker formations too. A more significant role will have to wait for now — unless, of course, he earns a full-time gig and takes significant playing time away from Wright as a rookie.
I don’t think they set out to add a linebacker in this draft either. I think a focal point of this reset has to been to try and re-establish a culture and physical presence. In 2018 they set out to repair the running game. A year ago their first two picks were a heavy-handed D-liner and a hammer at safety. Now they’ve used a high pick on Brooks.
Listening to the press conference after day one it’s clear they fell in love with the way he presented himself. They clearly liked what they saw on the field and when he blew them away during the combine interview — that stuck with them. I think this pick was as much to do with his attitude, intensity and grit as it was to do with position.
They’re desperately trying to become the bully again. They need some BAMF’s in that locker room — not just in terms of being able to hit as is the case with Marquise Blair. They need guys who are going to come in and take strong leadership roles and lay the foundations. In 2013 they had about eight different defenders who could viably make up a leadership core. At the moment they’ve got about five — Wagner, Wright, Jarran Reed, Bradley McDougald and Quandre Diggs. It’s not enough — and Wright is coming towards the end of a storied career and how much longer is McDougald going to be with the team? Brooks represents the kind of character and personality they want and need to become an important voice in the locker room.
This wasn’t a draft class loaded with personalities like this. Someone asked last week — who are the tough guys? Who are the really physically intense individuals? There weren’t many obvious ones. Brooks, having watched his play and several of his interviews, might be #1 in this class in that regard.
It certainly helps that he was listed by PFF as the drafts best run defender and tackler at linebacker. They missed too many tackles in 2019 and their perimeter run defense was appalling. He will help in that regard.
More than anything though I think Pete Carroll sat back in his chair after that combine meeting and believed he’d found a personality fit. Somebody who embodied his vision for this team.
“He’s just got that grit that we always talk about and that edge, that chip on his shoulder.”
— John Schneider
“We just found a guy that could check all of the boxes… We love his attitude, like John said, it’s just his mentality.”
— Pete Carroll
Another phone call that’s as good as it gets.@coachp_TTU 📞 @JordynBrooks_
🔴#WreckEm⚫️ pic.twitter.com/hkXRpYevkO
— Texas Tech Football (@TexasTechFB) April 24, 2020
You might argue it’s a bit rich to take a player in round one for that purpose. I would disagree. Culture is just as important as talent. You need both. You really need both. Speak to successful people in sports and they’ll tell you that. Team building isn’t a game. It’s not just about fitting names onto a sheet. It’s about the personalities, the mental make-up. There are so many moments during a season that fans never see. The situations where a team remains energised and motivated during difficult physical and mental challenges.
It’s easy to write off when you don’t get it. But it’s vital. And based on what Carroll said and listening to the coaches at Texas Tech and to Brooks himself — I’m convinced this pick is a culture + talent pick, rather than a need. Had someone taken him off the board, I don’t think they’d have circled back and drafted one of these other linebackers. I believe they see him as a foundational piece who can help regain their defensive identity.
To them — that was worth a first round pick. And the fact they were able to move up and get the guy they would’ve otherwise taken (Darrell Taylor) suggests a well executed overall strategy for the 2020 draft. The key for Brooks is going to be delivering on their plan for him. He needs to perform to the level of Wagner and Wright while also providing the toughness and consistency they have delivered for a decade. If he does that — and helps them re-establish their defensive culture in the process — it will be a successful pick.
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First time poster. This site has been such a blessing for Hawks fans during these tough days. Please know that your fantastic work is appreciated, Rob.
Thank you! 👍🏻
Thanks Rob. that’s comforting to read.
Fans will have to be patient enough to give a season for the rookies especially with a shortened off season. i am not just sure how many would see the field. This upcoming season is going to be all about how the last draft class performs.
Thanks, Rob!
I feel like Brooks has the same coverage ability that Bruce Irvin had early in his career.
Sam Gold did a video where he pointed out what type of coverages Brooks seems to be bad at, specifically zone coverages. It looks like if he is used for TE/seam coverages, he’s actually pretty good.
Dregur: I hope your are right.
Thanks very much Rob. If you want to keep writing I’ll be here reading and commenting. I think this lockdown has shed some light on many different avenues of life as far as processes and routines go. The draft was a big success that way (aside from the country song while the Seahawks picked….).
I do agree about the attitude and creating the culture. And I have no issue about using high picks on players that have talent but get bumped up the board because of their personality and demeanor. The Seahawks SB teams, a good chunk of them were slighted by draft position or getting cut or traded from their teams, but there were also ones who drafted high that contributed to the locker room just as much (ET, Tate, Wagner).
Thanks cha 👍🏻
Long time reader here. This is the best blog for football period. Thank you so much for all of the writing you have done for us. We are truly blessed to have you! I’m happy the Hawks went with a hard nosed tackling machine. It was definitely missing last year. Hopefully we get some training camp in July.
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Rob, we certainly appreciate your willingness to keep writing. August always feels too long to be without you and your insights. Cheers!
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Thanks Rob. I think you are dead on with that analysis. I know some will call this pick into question if he doesn’t start, but having him come in and spell Wagner and Wright to keep them fresh, while adjusting to the NFL game will pay dividends at the end of the year. I hope he is a willing student and picks up all of the intricacies of both the Will and Mike and can lead that position group when KJ and Bwagz are gone. Thanks to all who do film analysis on this blog. Thanks to Rob and you I’m jacked about this classes potential, now the players have to do their part!
Thank you!
Thanks Rob, glad to have the blog continuing! I’ve said it before, but it’s the only one I follow now. Great content, great community, great discussion.
I’m all for SEA trying to be the bully again. Honestly, they drafted a few guys that seem to have not. Taylor, Lewis, and Robinson to an extent. Not all of them need to have it…it takes all kinds to make a team, but it’s nice to see a few potential alphas again.
Side note, but man am I rooting for Sullivan. Not only does he have an intriguing skill set, his backstory is intense. I can see why Pete fell in love with him. He was my favorite rookie interview.
Yep, Sullivan has a great personality.
Seem to have “it”. Typo.
I dont know how to describe this in words but let try…yesterday i said when draft ends i feel like somebody took some part of my body…well you just put huge part of that missing part back in the place.
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Fair comment. I would say Dr Draft is a fair title for Rob. Not surprising he has some healing abilities.
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Yes, Rob is the disinfectant treatment for my football soul 😉 lol
I understand the feeling, as soon as it ends there is that sad feeling of it being over, almost like when you finished watching The Lord of The Rings Trilogy. But it’s nice to keep the conversation flowing. For that I am very appreciative to Rob & fellow commentors.
Beautiful piece. I loved it.
Thank you 👍🏻
If you have the time/energy to keep up posting, I know we all will keep reading and commenting. The break every year was always annoying and a clear sign of the boring summer stretch of no football.
Brooks is interesting. I wonder how the spread offenses and general lack of defense in the Big 12 affects the grading of the player. He is clearly not a coverage linebacker and that is ok. Every team needs tackling, edge-setting, and leadership. I just hope he sees the field consistantly so he is ready to take over for KJ in 2021.
Correct me if im wrong, but we have one of the best coaches in the NFL to teach coverage to DBs. 😉 Doesn’t seem like a stretch to think they can teach a fast LB to improve in that regard. With all the talk of Isaiah Simmons being a defensive weapon, i feel like Jordyn has the potential to be the same, but drafted way later.
Time will tell, but im feeling better about the pick every day.
really appreciate this take, truly a breath of fresh air – thank you rob!
Thank you 👍🏻
Rob, for weeks this has been the first site I open in the morning and the last one I check at night. I know you must be exhausted, but this has been such an important lifeline for so many of us. It’s more than a distraction–it’s a reminder that sports, and fun, and frivolous enjoyment are not things of the past. The service you provide is hope.
As long as you have the energy to keep posting, we’ll be right here with you.
Thank you!!!
Thanks Doc!
Same here I don’t comment much just like to read opinions and get insight. This blog has been an amazing outlet during this time. For me it is the best website for seahawks related content. You keep writing, writing I keep reading maybe I will attempt to chime in with more comments.
Thank you!
Agreed, on first one open and last one checked. Last 5 weeks cooped up at home and your site has some how made it worth it.I have never posted before but just want to say thank you
Cheers Blake
1st time poster, long time reader. Thank you so much for this blog Rob. It is my favourite place for Seahawks content as I really appreciate your measured takes. Very rare these days. Please keep doing what you are doing if you have the time. All the best to you and your family, James.
Thanks James
Rob, I wish you could have seen the smile on my face when I read you will be continuing the blog. It has been a blessing. Thank you!
And on a professional note, I hope you see the incredible positive momentum you have created. Keeping the site active will hopefully allow you to build on that.
Thanks Steve. I’m going to keep it going as long as people want it. If people stay in the comments, stay communicating, stay enjoying — I will continue with articles, videos and podcasts.
Rob on that note, if you can get some of the Hawks picks and/or UDFA’s for interviews, my interest (which was already pretty high) would go through the roof!
That would be great! A follow up interview with Damien Lewis!
Unfortunately I think the teams manage their media availability now. So I’d have to go through the Seahawks. And I don’t have a contact for that (plus I’m not sure they’d be willing to cooperate with an independent blog).
Obi, come home… 😜
General Melifonwu, years ago you were a SDB blog favorite.
Now we beg you to help us in the struggle against the Empire.
This is our most desperate hour.
He us Obi Melifonwu, you’re our only hope.
Lol. My brother R2 and I concur. Beep-bee-bee-boop-bee-doo-weep
Lol, very droll👍🏼
If only to hear Clayton mispronounce your name.
“Patriots released Kobe Onwonahu…”
Is it too soon to say “he crashed his X-wing”?
Hello there…
The rumor was he didn’t love the game when he was released by the Raiders. For all his natural ability, that won’t cut it here.
Thanks Rob, that was a great piece and appreciate the refreshing take on the Brooks pick. I will for sure be one that keeps reading as long as you keep writing! Very much enjoy the content here on SDB! Really looking forward to seeing what you have in store for us as the Seahawks off season continues!
I also am hopeful that some of Brooks “grit” rubs off on Barton because he has the tools to be a great LB.
Cheers Rob!
THIS is why I love this blog. Your willingness to go further. When the GB trade back fell through they found themselves having to make a pick, rather than take the guy at the position they needed (Taylor), they trusted their board and took the highest rated player regardless of position. He’s not just a culture fit, he’s a culture driver. This is the type of guy that will make players around him play harder and be better. The fact that we still got Taylor is just doubly awesome.
I like that… “He’s not just a culture fit, he’s a culture driver.”
Nice way of putting it.
+1 well said
Agreed 100%
“This is the way!”
Rob thank you for everything your interviews were tremendous your insight was spot on.i just wanted to say to you thank you
Thanks Robert
Extremely well written, Rob. This is actually one of my favorites in a long time.
If you want, maybe you could embed the video of that pre-game speech we were looking at the other day. Would fit well with this article.
Also, there’s a Baldy’s Breakdown of Brooks as well. And check out his coach’s comment on it:
https://twitter.com/TTUCoachWells/status/1248440219868770305
Thanks for the link Sea Mode. I liked watching Baldwins breakdown and seeing Brooks diagnose and fly to the play. I love how Baldy calls out the similarities to Wagners’ game in the breakdown.
Fantastic clip. Thanks a ton for posting it. That man got some skills. LOL
Yes, thanks for posting!
Does anyone know how you can get college all22?
Instead of the dreaded ‘shut off’ notice, Seahawks fans get a ‘continuation of service.’
#hero
Thank you!
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Hi Rob,
Thanks for providing this blog. I read the articles and comments multiple times a day. I want to share one of the aspects of your writing I find so appealing. While we “know” the primary off season priority should be the pass rush (#31 in sacks ’19), you were able to take a step back after the draft, and better understand how JS/PC could choose a LB versus drafting a DE with 1st selection or even trading up for a slightly higher rated DE.
In conclusion, I’m still anxiously waiting for an established pass rusher to be signed, thanks for your perspective on draft selections.
Thank you Jeffrey 👍🏻
Great article. I’m getting more excited about Brooks by the day.
I share your enthusiasm that the Hawks worked to trade up to get their guy (Taylor) on day 2. To your previous posts, it seems to work out well for them when they move up with conviction to get a guy.
Thank you for keeping the site active post draft. It’s obvious that you put a lot of time and energy into SDB leading up to the draft. With 3 long days and odd hours during the draft, we can appreciate that you’re likely quite exhausted when the draft is over. Tip of the cap to your wife for putting up with it.
The post draft analysis of the players we select is even more interesting to me as I’m not someone who has the skill to evaluate tape of players (or time to do so).
The new CBA rules have moved the comp pick deadline up to the Monday after the draft (I think it’s officially 1pm this afternoon pacific time) has made the week after the draft more interesting as well.
All the more reason to keep the party going.
First part of this article was fantastic to hear, if you keep writing I’ll keep reading.
This is a really interesting and refreshing take on the pick, a lot of draft analysts really dont put enough into culture (which is harder to do as an outsider so I sort of understand) but it’s a big deal. It’s why I think the Raiders last couple drafts have been really good, they had an identity to build and have been doing it.
It would be a little disappointing for a 1st round pick to be purely a back up, so hopefully he is able to get significant snaps in rotation, and I have been clamouring for the Seahawks to not always reach for need with their first pick (even if Brooks wasnt my personal bpa). We would absolutely need some corner competition if they arent sticking with 3 LBs (arrg why didnt they draft Amik!?) but hopefully Ugo can win the job anyway.
What do you make of his coverage ability in 2018? It sounds like he was used more in coverage that year and then was moved to more of a spy/run stopper in 2019 and seemed pretty adept at it.
To piggyback on John’s question, Samuel Gold had an article on Field Gulls that said he switched positions last year, so how much do you think that affected his coverage abilities. I did look up some of his stats and in previous years he did have a couple interceptions and more pass break ups. I would think that with his athleticism, he could pick up pass coverage pretty well.
Yeah i agree with you Rob that Brooks is the replacement for Wright. I think initially that spot was for Barton, but on the day 1 post draft interview, JS/PC talked about how Wright was flexible outside/inside and they saw Wagner only as an MIKE. I think they changed their view and now see Barton as only a MIKE and have Brooks being the flexible guy. Hopefully they find that starting nickel before the season, because they can’t go back to the base defense for all three downs.
Also, thanks to Spotrac, they are predicting the total cap hit of the draft picks to be roughly 8 mil and so with that and Bruce Irvin contract’s ( im going what his cap hit last year was which is 4 mil), we got about 10 mil to spend. That should be enough for Everson Griffin. If they still want Clowney, then Russ might need to sacrifice some $$$ to have him come back or try to sign him at 2 yr 27 mil and have the yr 1 cap hit be around 10 mil.
Our picks cost nearly 8m this season but the number doesn’t affect our cap space with this sum. The Top51 cut-off is nearly 750k, our first four draft picks are above this number with a total of 5,1m. They’re pushing out four players with 750k each (3m). Makes a net-cap for our rookies around 2,1m. No need to restructure Russ contract unless you want to sign Griffen and Clowney
Rob, if you doubt we will read your article or not try this. Just write Hello SDB gang, how are you?
In comment section you will have 100’s of response. We have a here a great community, we can discuss and support each other just with one common interest, everyone’s love towards Seahawks. It’s funny no one knows how everyone looks but their for each other.
And you are one crazy guy who is talking about 2021. Take a break when you need one.
I might try that.
It would be good to check in with everyone.
I thought it was cool how the mock draft competition had people crawling out of the woodwork!
Yo, pop in and say hi every once in a while, you sneaky lurkers! (I was a lurker too…)
Started commenting when I was ~15, Im turning 25 in June and somehow I have regressed to the bottom of the pack. I blame the *****
Also it’s crazy how me and Evan Hill are the same age but he looks 38. And paradoxically, the taste buds of a toddler
I’m way hotter than Kenny.
Well one would hope so!
Me and Rob met once. Rob got carded for a pepsi.
Man if somebody wanted to meet up for a watch party or something Id happily attend and buy a round
Firstly, I thought it was telling that Seattle targeted two players who were highly rated 12 months ago but then had circumstances impact their stock.
This is a great idea. We could include categories
Possible but player lost playing time due to injury
Possible but player played in a poor program/poorly coached/poor quarterback etc
Possible player who has experience playing a position of need but has been switched to another position deemed less of a need. (I think I remember this with Pocic.)
Brooks reminds me a little of Leroy Hill at OLB a few years ago. Obviously he’s faster and has longer arms but they’re both intimidating thumpers. Brooks has higher upside and (ughhmm) less character concerns. I’m excited to see how they incorporate him. Best blog in the NFL. Thanks Rob!
Do you see Brooks as a thumper? I didn’t really see that in his game. Rather, I saw a guy that wraps up and makes the tackle. Granted, I haven’t seen a ton of footage on him, but guys just do not seem to get away and he appears far more interested in making sure the tackle is successful than making a big hit.
I 100% agree with this, he seemed to be more of a catcher than thump er all be it a sure handed one.
I didn’t necessarily see a thumper, either, but I did see him repeatedly standing RBs up in the hole – tremendous strength at the point of attack.
If they can get Clowney on a 2-year (or more) deal, I’d bet they only need about $8 million this year to get it done.
I just wish they’d be more aggressive with their cuts/trades to add enough cap space to afford Clowney + 1 other difference maker.
Weird. That was a reply to Donny Henson, above.
well if Russ wants superstars, then give some $$$
I don’t know what that means. He doesn’t need to. They can afford to pay Clowney.
If you want Clowney and another difference maker, then Russ would need to give up some $$$, and he did ask for superstars.
He outweighs him by about 10 lbs and isn’t as long, but would ya’ll take Jeremiah Trotter’s style of play on this team? Could cover, was a thumper, set the tone, brought a ton of physicality and drip (‘member the axe swing celebration?), and along with Brian Dawkins was the leader of that mid aughts Philly team. That’s who Jordyn Brooks reminds me of.
U old, Vol.
34 and a half
Oh, nvm. I read “mid eighties” and was like: he remembers a team from the mid 80’s??
But yes. I am washed.
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Rob,
Been around here since the Aaron Curry/ Michael Crabtree/ Mark Sanchez Draft. Haven’t commented in years, but I just needed you to know, we all appreciate so much of what you do. I check this website multiple times a day and your commitment is incredible. Thank you for everything!
Thank you Patrick. For those words and for being here since the start.
Great article Rob.
He’ll definitely see the field and will hopefully be a part of the next wave of leaders. When you put it that way, its hard to hate the pick. Now that everythings sunk in, I have appreciated this draft more and more.
Rob, like so many others here on the blog I’m ecstatic that you plan to keep pumping out more Seahawks specific and NFL in general articles! In previous years the dark days following the draft left me wanting; more articles, more interaction, more analysis, all of it. Thanks for what you have already done, and for the excellent work yet to come!
Side note: I should never be surprised by a Seahawks draft, as they consistently march to their own beat! I’m sure many of us will come to love a number of these new players, and hopefully they fit as well as PC/JS think they will. Now, let’s go get Clowney back!!
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Great news about the community staying active for a while longer! Best site on the Hawks and it is not even close. Great content and a nice distraction for sure. Like many before me have said – first site I hit every morning and last one every night. Thanks Rob! Brooks, Taylor, and Lewis seem to all be BPA, tough competitors, and great culture fits for the Hawks. Now let’s finish the off season in style and:
1. Sign Clowney and/or Griffen or both
2. Pick up a veteran DT
3. Pounce on Fournette when he is cut or make a small 2021 draft capital trade. This would give RW a nice piece to compliment or replace Carson and he can catch passes out of the backfield with the best of them.
Robinson was another guy who had an awesome 2018 and saw his draft stock drop significantly in 2019. I love that Robinson has been working with Cliff Avril as well.
Another great write up Rob! Selfishly I am pumped you are not taking a break yet this year.
Why isn’t Cliff on the coaching staff?? Get on that Pete!
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Terrific article. I’m not worried about the coverage really. There is enough film of him flipping his hips and running with guy to feel ok about it. He isn’t horrible in Zone and it is something than can be learned. Despite what some may think if Norton as a DC, he is a great LB coach. The experience as a spy and the sideline speed is going to be a really welcome addition.
Also thanks again Rob. As well as other long time readers (2011!) I’m glad to hear you won’t be leaving us quite yet! Can’t wait to h are your thoughts on the draft class and the 2021 guys as well! So many to choose from. Stay healthy and don’t burn yourself out!
Also crossing my fingers for big FA announcement
Sorry for the errors. Stupid phone…
I’ve spent more time on your blog than any other site (not work related) during this lockdown. You’ve got the best Seahawks content out there and as long as you keep adding to it we’ll keep coming back for more. Go Hawks!
Thanks Aaron 👍🏻
I have probably read every post and comment over the past 6 years. My first comment. In years past I would still check your blog every day in your “downtime” just hoping for a post. If I heard of Hawks news your blog has been and will be my first and probably only stop. THANK YOU!
Thank you for reading! 👍🏻
Thanks for all your great posts. Very entertaining and educational as well.
Thanks for keeping up your site. My son is a very busy infectious disease doctor who loves to read your site as a diversion. He works at least 12 hour days and at least one a month for twelve days straight.
Thanks
That’s awesome. Tell him we all appreciate him 👍🏻
It’s great you’re keeping the blog going the next few weeks Rob.
I enjoyed the draft even more than normal because of everything else that’s going on, anything that helps life feel normal is so welcome.
Looks like free agency is about to get busy again for the Seahawks too.
The content has been fantastic as usual recently.
Thank you 👍🏻
Wow, Brooks’ pressure % was 37.6%.
It’s always a lot higher for LB’s
Maybe you answered this already but I like the pick but wonder where it leaves Cody Barton? I could see them two together after Bobby retires but that might not happen if Bobby keeps going. Do you see Cody more of a SAM or is he competing for the same WILL spot?
I think he needs to get his arse in gear next season
After last year, I definitely dont see Barton as a SAM. He seems like a Mike, his strengths are his intelligence and agility, pretty good at dropping into zones, definitely cant set the edge against the run.
So probably just a back up and special teams guy for a while unless he can beat Brooks for the Will. Wouldn’t be the first time a Seahawks 1st round pick has lost playing time to someone drafted much later.
Nice piece Rob. I was anxious to hear your take on Brooks after you’d watched his film and done some processing. After we took Brooks and Pete and John both gushed about the way he blew them away in the interview, I tried to look up interviews for Day 2 targets. I thought Taylor really shined in those that I could find. I think you’re right and both have that confident, charismatic, well-spoken leadership style that we need more of.
I also want to give you one more shout-out via TP’s draft recap podcast. In the final pre-draft show, they talked about risers and fallers and you had been ahead of the curve and spot on with so many of those names. Now after the draft they were talking about surprises and I found myself laughing, as it turned out, I had much of the ‘inside info’ thanks to you:
– Never expected CEH as the first RB – smiles
– Shocked that Epenesa fell so far – chuckles
– Surprised that Robert Hunt went in the 2nd – giggling
– Bradley Anae’s fall was shocking – laughing
Other ‘surprises’: Ruggs as the 1st WR, Andrew Thomas as the 1st T, Raegor & Aiyuk going so early, Zach Baun falling, Jordan Elliot’s drop, Xavier McKinney sliding out of the 1st.
Trust your ability to evaluate talent Rob, you have a real eye for it. Also props to the community. We unearthed some gems that the NFL agreed with us on, more than the pundits.
Thank you for remembering all of that and pointing it out 👍🏻
Meanwhile…..
https://twitter.com/MoveTheSticks/status/1254821032831025154
I haven’t always agreed with your opinions or your comments. With that said, I doubt anyone here appreciates the time and effort you put into this blog more than I do. In the weeks leading up to the draft, I’ll check in several times a day looking for new articles and reading the comments from the community as well as yours. I think I’m pretty strong at judging athleticism and abilities but I am the first to admit I don’t know the intricacies of each position and scheme as you or most of this community which is a huge part of why I come here. Your knowledge of the details is unmatched, even those who are paid columnists don’t compete.
Keep delivering what you always have and you’ll have a devout fanbase that you know appreciates all that you do…even if some of us disagree at times. Thank you Rob
This. Thanks Rob (and his patient wife)
😂 She is loving these messages recently
Thank you 👍🏻
+1
First time poster from Switzerland. Many thanks for the welcome variety during this bizarre time. I checked 5 to 10 times per day your website to look out for new content. You did a great job!!! Thank you, thank you, thabk you…
Thanks Yves!
I really like VA-Tech CB Caleb Farley.
Had never played defense before getting to Blacksburg was recruited as a WR, missed his FR season due to a torn ACL then lost his mom due to cancer, coverage grade of 90.3 (same as Derek Stingley), extremy physical, is also 6’2-6’3.
https://youtu.be/rOoIq9HTP3Q
Oh snap, not another backstory… 😉
I know ur joking, but that’s something that will always be an underlying theme w/ Petey’s & Schneidz’ drafts.
ESPN called him as soon as the draft was over. 😉
I really appreciate all that you do here Rob- in your “spare time”.
This community has been a nice reprieve from sheltering. The only complaint I could launch is the format scrolling comments when they get over 1,000(!).
Yeah the comments section is horrendous on WordPress. I need to upgrade badly.
Alright, folks. What’s your favorite comment section layout on the internet. SB Nation?
Post a link to give ideas.
Yeah,I’d probably have to lean SBNation. Easy to scroll and mark comments as read, see when someone replies etc.
Would love all that functionality.
Only thing I’d love is a window to edit posts. Even just 5 mins.
Yep. 5 minis perfect
I have contacted some web designers today to see if the prices have dropped during lockdown.
I obviously can’t speak for anyone but myself, or if you’d be willing to tell us. But let us know what the cost would be to upgrade the site the way you’d like. I’d personally be willing to to throw $200 your way to make this great blog better for everyone. Maybe we can get count going and it will give you an idea of what might be possible. Crowdfunding of sorts.
+1000
Rob, I’m suspecting you have support for a campaign right now amongst the blog followers to assist in you redesign effort. Or status quo with patreon.
Second this
+100 this is an essential part of my life and I’d gladly invest in any improvements you saw fit to make
Thanks Von — but I feel like this is something I need to pay for myself. I don’t think it’d be right to crowdsource. But I really appreciate the offer.
Be humble all you want. We will make this happen for you.
You’ve spent 12 years enlightening and entertaining us. It’s the least we could do.
Please send my email to the rest of the group. Guys, hit me up. Please
Boys, my email is Vonfricke@gmail.com.
Please send me how much you’d like/can donate. I’ll get the figures together and send Rob an email. Let’s make this happen.
Ive had this thought for a while and now is probably the time.
Can we have someone setup a GOFUNDME for Rob so we can get him a PIMPED OUT WEBSITE.
Pump My Blog
Great idea.
I use the comment plugin from Thrive Themes. Feature rich though not sure if it’s the best out there. If Rob wants it I can let him use it on my account, I think, because I have extra unused licenses.
It takes literally a minute to install. It adapts to comments on existing posts and if you uninstall it one day you don’t lose comments, they just go back to the wordpress standard format.
I haven’t done a search for best wordpress plugins, but if Rob asked me to, I would. Funny thing is, I can’t mark this comment that I’m writing to notify me if Rob or someone replies, which is a feature of Thrive Comments, so I won’t actually know if someone replies!
Have to admit that when reading Rob’s thoughts on “culture,” it made me think of Clowney. Is there something about him they don’t like? This whole thing has played out in a weird way. They certainly could have signed him by now if they wanted to. You can create cap space (as demonstrated by the recent cuts).
Here’s what I suspect: Clowney is immensely gifted as an athlete. He has never been forced to work on his craft as a pass rusher — to develop a repertoire of moves. That doesn’t work with their culture. They want Rasheem Greene and LJ Collier to emulate someone like Cliff Avril. A craftsman. A dedicated professional.
Apologies to Clowney if I’m 100% wrong. Just fun to guess at what might be going on.
I doubt RW would be campaigning for him if true, or Pete and John would keep praising his impact on the locker room.
I think they wanted to see how the draft played out, to know where to appropriate the cap from. At least once it got to a certain point. Now that they know where things stand with the rookie class:
– Cut Fluker (Lewis)
– Cut Britt after he qualifies for the NFL benefit(s) Rob mentioned to Brandon
– Know that KJ will be gone next year (Brooks), so let his contract play out rather than restructure/extend
– Be in position to match whatever TEN might offer after the comp pick window (RFA’s with no dead $)
– Base the DT signing on whether it’s Clowney or Griffen (dollars & fit)
I think it just boils down to $, and they have a number they wont go over, possibly due to durability. I also think that # is below the 17-18 threshold, hence the stalemate. Nobody else wants to either. Granted nobody can give him a physical…
Well if thats true and he doesnt sign then he wanted to be elsewhere at this point. I guess Im assuming that the rumors of him taking a 1 year deal are true before the draft.
It’s time for both parties to sort this out
No way he’s getting a physical from anyone else. Neither party has any leverage and time is running short
Like many others here I want to thank you for continuing with your work here Rob. Only been here for a month or so but it’s top notch.
I’m much more excited for Brooks than I was when the choice was first announced. You and others are all mentioning his speed and to my eyes more speed was the thing the D most needed this offseason.
Thanks Mike
If the Hawks were to go out and add the following 4 guys is this an SB caliber roster or the 3rd most talented team in the divsion? With the rosters SF and now Arizona have now I am not sure.
Clowney (Edge/5tech)
Mike Daniels (DT) assuming health
Veron Hargreaves or another slot CB option
Isiah Crowell (vet RB/Kick returner)
As always, the answer is that it depends. But it is possible!
It depends on, 1) the key players staying healthy all year long, 2) significant development from the younger guys, with some making big leaps forward (Flowers, Barton, Haynes, etc), 3) some luck along the way, 4) winning some close games against good teams and beating the teams they should beat.
A little poor luck in these categories by SF, NO, GB, Minn, etc wouldn’t hurt either!
We still have the best QB of the bunch so yeah they could, it’ll be a close race tho and needing to get the 1st seed for a bye will make a sb run much tougher.
Hargreaves has already re-signed with Houston
Rob the 🐐. Thanks for all the content man! You’ve been doing a great service!!
Thanks Jordan
Hi Rob (or anyone else for that matter)-
Any thoughts on the UDFAs so far? I’m intrigued by Webb and the rb from FIU. And being from Wisconsin, I apologize in advance if spellcheck changes UDFA to uff da.
Too many times teams try to get cute with picking for now. And it hurts them in the long run.
I remember wanting TJ Watt so bad even though that outside pass rusher was not a pressing need at the time… but you did know that it would be shortly down the road and he was obviously at the time the best player available (Rob, myself, and a few others here said it prior to the selection and history has proven we were obviously right).
Well, they have KJ still but we all know this upcoming season is probably his last in the NFL. I’m okay with Brooks because I want the best available players and if they feel they can pair him with Bobby down the road (and get him on the field some this year too), then I’m all for it. If they feel that this guy was too good to pass up even though his position wasn’t the biggest need — that’s great because the purpose of the draft is to draft the best players and if this guy is the best — taking a BPA for them is much better than forcing positions of need with many of their first round picks that turn into sub-par performers. The best thing for the long haul is always to take BPA. Though I don’t agree he’ll be a better pro than Jonathan Taylor – I’m sure as heck going to root for him! Big time.
And with the Darrell Taylor pick – that’s a good point about highly rated players. When a guy like Taylor suffers a bit due to playing with a stress fracture for the season – you’d think scouts would take that into consideration more (as the Seahawks did). It seems that after his leg started getting better again – that’s also when his pass rush win percentage started getting better again (later in the year) as well.
I really like Blair and the way he hits/explodes. Adding a thumper like Brooks to Bobby could really help make the defense much more fun to watch again. Just gotta do something at DT next to Reed.
I think the key to the Taylor pick was that Seattle met with him early so they may have had a chance to check out how the leg was doing. Most other teams apparently didn’t and probably didn’t want to possibly waste a pick on an injured guy. Hawks really lucked out there.
If you frequent this blog and loves the job Rob does in his spare time, we should all consider doing this based on the quality distraction he’s providing us during this weird time in the world:
“You can now support Seahawks Draft Blog via Patreon by clicking the tab below.”
We should click that tab. It’s amazing the time this blog must take away from his family and I know he probably doesn’t make much from doing it. Even if times are hard and you can’t give much, sometimes it’s just the thought that counts.
+1 zillion
Bobby you are so right.
Lets start a Gofundme for a new site.
Please don’t — it’s my responsibility to sort it
Hey, that’s what happens when you create a community! You get people who help each other.
Can we pitch in next year to get you to the Combine? We would all benefit from that.
I know he wants to go to the Senior Bowl in Alabama.
I actually almost went to the combine in Indy this past year (long story involving my former student who I have a great relationship with and is a scout for the Cowboys who was there). Thinking I might go next year if this COVID19 stuff is done – Rob, would love to meet up with you if you came to that!
I just increased my Patreon monthly payment this morning. The content is too vast and excellent. Wish I could do one time payments as well- only thing I don’t like about Patreon is that you can only set a monthly rate with no option for additional one time payments.
Apparently Clowney agreed to terms with Tennessee.
Where is that being reported?
It’s not Ink Zone again is it?
I can’t post it here I just saw a screenshot of a tweet that didn’t have the poster in it
If we could wait to report and stuff like this until we have credible sources that would be great. We already had one wild goose chase this year, would be great not to have any more. Thx
Feel free to skip.
Feel free to verify my friend.
Yikes bro. Own ur s***
I just put it out there, it is not “My S***”.
I’ve been guilty of it as well. But we’ve got to start, collectively, doing better than this.
Links + looking into the source + double checking to make sure it’s not a phony handle.
I haven’t seen it reported anywhere by Schefter, Garofolo, Rapaport, etc.
It’s not true — https://titanswire.usatoday.com/2020/04/27/tennessee-titans-jadeveon-clowney-no-signing-imminent-monday/
I saw this post as well.
Rob, this would also tell me a little bit more. One possible option that has been discussed was that the Titans were waiting until today to do the deal that had already been probably agreed to with Clowney. This now appears to be not the case at all.
I had hoped that an offer might be pending today from the Titans that the Seahawks could match and we could finish this thing by end of day. Appears not. Back to the waiting game?
Personally, I hope we took some of the cap space we just freed up, upper our last offer to Clowney, and said, “we’d love you back here, but take it or leave it.” It would be fantastic to have him back, but we can’t wait another couple of months only to run the risk of having him sign elsewhere. We have other needs to attend to that can’t wait any longer.
“UPPED” our last offer to Clowney, I mean.
I’ve been guilty of it as well, 100 percent.
But it is time to start thinking about vetting our sources more when we post “breaking” news here.
Just wanted to add my thanks for the work you are doing. It is such a welcome distraction from everything and I personally really appreciate you recognizing the greater need you are fulfilling in so many strangers lives. This says a lot about your character. Thanks Rob, truly.
Thanks Brett
A huge thank-you Rob for the amazing content the last decade, but particularly the last couple months when you took it to another level. I enjoyed this blog and the draft more than ever this year.
Were you suggesting in the article that having K.J. match up in coverage 1:1 against Gronk in a Superbowl was a bad idea? Felt like that play took forever. From K.J. being isolated against Gronk, to Tom diagnosing it, to Brady taking his time on the pitch and catch touchdown.
I actually wrote KJ vs Gronk and then removed it — I didn’t want to be overly negative. But yes, that’s what I was thinking. I remember right before that play saying to my brother — I don’t like this. It stuck out so much.
That is what I exactly thought at that moment, too.
I said the same thing to all my friends when I saw him out there as well.
In that funky ass stance where he’s got inside leverage and basically looking at the sideline? I remember thinking “oh boy, here we go”. I’m can imagine KJ was thinking the same 😂. That’s a tough assignment.
I loved it a year or two later we had Kam match up with Gronk 1V1 for a couple Redzone attempts at the end of the game. Possibly the Procise game? Idk I forget. I miss Bam Bam.
I’ll never forget that Super Bowl. There were a few things that stood out to me (outside of the mess at the end).
We were doing great at containment until Lane got injured. Then there was a big gaping hole at nickel and we heavily struggled to contain the Patriots fast slot receivers. Even then, if Kam came down and lurked in that area, the gains were contained and minimal. The real problem that left us was that KJ would get matched with Gronk and he absolutely ate KJ alive. To adjust, Kam would sometime play 1 vs 1 against Gronk. Highly physical battles, but I thought Gronk would get contained when Kam was on him. The problem was…. that meant no one was surveying the underneath zones which the Patriots’ receivers would then feast on. After a bit, Kam would go back, but that meant KJ was matched up against Gronk where we would get burned again.
The other thing was M Bennett. I recall reading afterwards that Bill B’s most feared pass rusher on our team was him and looking at that game, he played his mind out. Bennett was consistently beating his man, but Brady largely negated the pass rush with quick throws to the receivers.
The game changed when Avril went out. It left Bennett alone and they concentrated on him.
Ok. After watching some more video and other breakdowns, right or wrong, from the past. I can see how Brooks fits as a SAM for the Hawks in their 4-3.
I went back and looked at this piece from Danny Kelly on Fieldgulls about the using both over and under looks. Brooks fits really well as a SAM for the Over look with a edge setting 5-tech/Clowney.
https://www.fieldgulls.com/football-breakdowns/2013/5/31/4382318/the-seahawks-and-the-4-3-under-front-winds-of-change
I see him more naturally as a Will backer in the Under look but after seeing Baldy’s piece and Samuel Golds on CLowney I can see the Hawks using Brooks as a Sam for the under.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAnV9eWEkU4 Sam Golds Piece
https://twitter.com/i/status/1248429752597110791 Baldys Breakdown
I totally see this FA period through the lens of JS after watching Golds breakdown. Clowney is just not worth top dollar pass rusher. He doesn’t rush the passer. We saw it first hand. He is a freak 5 Tech. If he could only learn to use his hands better and learn pass rushing techs he would be amazing. (didnt we listen to that from someone?) I also can picture how Mayowa, Irvin, Reed, Taylor et all fit their pass rush needs in 3rd and long. I also see they really need Everson Griffen. Counting on a base set with Leo on the roster with Reed, 1 Tech/Poona, and 5-tech/Clowney the Hawks need to still get a Leo.
I think he’s a MIKE or WILL all day long.
He might play some SAM initially, to get all three LB’s on the field in certain scenarios. But I don’t like it long term at all. It doesn’t suit him.
I agree it doesn’t fit well for the Under looks that put him in space against the very athletic TE’s but I think it does for the the times he is lined up outside the more traditional TE. I think he fits perfectly as a SAM for the Over looks.
I also think yes in a strictly 4-3 under he fits a lot better as a Will and in both he fits best as a Mike.
I wish their was an edit button.
I can see him struggling in the SAM Under especially if they chose to keep him on the field against 3 wides and Move TE’s/Kittle.
Thank you Rob! Your writing and analysis is smart and clear. I appreciate your efforts!
Thanks Stefan
This sincerely brought a tear to my eye. I was fortunate enough to play college baseball and now get a chance to coach younger people. I was so incredibly lucky to have coaches in my life make such an impact…and my goal as a coach is just to hear something like this, one time.
I’m all aboard the hype train now. Brooks does scream Ray Lewis…crazy, but whatever. This dude gets it.
Combine him with the other characters in this class, including Darrell “we about to f*ck them up” Taylor…I think you have the seeds for the next generation of leaders on this team.
Last note, shout out – Russell and Bobby are the greatest Seahawks of all time. The fact they got on the horn with each of these picks speaks to the absolute character these guys have. Don’t kid yourself…maybe Drew Brees is the only other QB in the NFL that will hop on facetime with a 7th Round Project to welcome them to the team. I really hope folks don’t lose sight of how meaningful that is. We may have qualms with the roster and how they approached this offseason – but I guarantee you that no other team in the NFL has taken as seriously as the Seahawks, the yearning to build a team with the right personalities – and to Rob’s point, that can go a long ways.
The least talented baseball team I was a part of, was ultimately the most successful. It was because it was a true team and people were bigger fans of others than they were of themselves. Please don’t discount the impact that has on a true team sport like football. This isn’t basketball where all you need are two guys to score points. This is a machine that requires every part to function in unison – don’t care if you are the engine or the air filter.
And fantastic work Rob. Incredibly well done.
Cheers
Very well said Matt!
Great post 👍
What, you don’t think A-Rod facetimed with Jordan Love right after GB’s pick? I agree, we are blessed to have those 2 leaders on our team.
Shoot Rob. I’ve been dreading your wrap-up article signaling the offseason break. Hearing you’re continuing on just about made me tear up! Definitely make sure you get some family time. You deserve it, but thanks for your continued efforts here! And a big thanks to your wife for sharing you!
Thanks Dan!
Does Pete Prisco have any NFL credentials? I was looking at picks on the CBS site and wandered into his grades. They are just terrible.
If you took a RB, that was your worst pick: CEH, Taylor, Dobbins, Akers, all ‘worst’. Darrell Taylor, the guy we moved up for was our worst. Also in the worst category: Ruiz, Hamler, Claypool, Zuniga, Uche, Delpit, Lamb, Isaiah Frieaking Simmons!
My favorite of his ‘best’ picks was Joe Burrow. Well done Pete. You’ve really outdone yourself.
He used to cover the Jags as a beat reporter and has covered the NFL & draft for as long as I can remeber. Having said that, he’s the worst. Just an insufferable sack of s**t.
Funnily enough he called Jordyn Brooks a future star so I hope he isn’t a total idiot
Saw Jeremiah tweet is best value picks based on how far they fell compared to his rankings. No accountability in these idiots.
Good ol’ Petey boy has the ass for the Seahawks. Read somewhere it goes clear back to the Holmgren days when iirc Walrus used him to float some stuff that wasn’t true as a diversion right before a draft. If true, the fact that he holds a grudge to this day says a lot about what a small person he is.
Rob,
I looked at the archives and have been following your coverage since 2011. I can’t believe it’s been 9 years! Before marriage (I think) and kids for you!
I know that any time I wonder what the “right” thing to do is for the Hawks in the draft, or for a thoughtful analysis of college players and the teams that would fit them well, I immediately come here.
Thank you, sincerely, for your continued commitment to this community – both during this time and over the years. Congrats also on success in the UK with your day job!
All the best, and thanks again.
NB
Five yearsish follower. Very infrequent poster. I’m one of those who come here every day of the year – even when I know Rob is hibernating – just in case something happened that he wanted to get a word out about, or just comment on.
Rob has an insatiable interest in following college football. (My brother does, I don’t). Rob has an insatiable interest in the Seahawks. (As do I and my brother doesn’t).
What separates Rob from the Mob? 1) He’s a professional communicator. 2) He has a near encyclopedic understanding of how the Seahawks approach the physical, mental and intangibles of every position group in the game. 3) Despite being busier than a one armed paperhanger he posts a prodigious amount of brilliantly accurate information. 4) His opinions are based on his knowledge of the team and his research into the possibilities. 5) He is not telling us how he wants things to be – he is telling us how they are, and how his knowledge leads him to believe the future may unfold.
Rob lets me inside his mind. Inside his research. He invites me into his living room and educates me. This year he’s inviting me into his living room for an extended stay. To me – this is precious. Love ya Rob! (In a manly sort of way).
Thanks Roger, I loved reading that. Thank you.
After the draft I rewatched SB 48 and good golly miss molly I want a defense like that again. If we become bullies again and start taking the ball away again then I think Pete might loosen the reins on the offense a bit.
Thank you for this, Rob! I am excited to see what you think of 2021–and I hope it doesn’t burn you out. This has been amazing as both content and community for the last few months, as well as the last several years on top of that 😉
Thanks Comfect. I’ll be aight!
Thanks for all your hardwork Rob. I look forward to your articles and cannot tell you how much your blog has helped during this crazy time. Keep up the good work, you are the best out there. We all appreciate what you do. This draft shows that your hardwork pays off..
Thanks Sean
What would a pandemic be without Seahawksdraftblog. Thank you Rob for all your passion and insight – you have a real talent for it!
This year’s draft had a different vibe than the last. John and Pete seemed generally amped about how the draft came to them. I am excited about this group which will surely have more of that “All In” mentality that characterized earlier squads. And I am more positive about the prospect of actually having a season to enjoy this year.
Go Hawks!
Thank you Paul
In the person of Jordyn Brooks. The Seahawks now have someone that can chase down Kyler Murray.
they already have that man… Rollin’ Rasheem Green
Barton can chase him down, he’ll just get trucked or stiff-armed when he gets there.
And maybe limit Robert Woods on the damn jet sweep.
😀
If you build it they’ll come
I could use a little field of dreams . . .
Especially since we just finished “Draft Day”
Everyone knew Bo Callahan was a bust
Why is Justin Herbert Bo Callahan thooo?
Nobody showing up to Bo’s Birthday party was harsh. That’s like 80+ college kids from his team that had something better to do than show up to a college party.
And let’s not even talk about the bs with the Benjamin. 😉
I’d trade 3 second round picks for #6 though….LOL
Another observation of Brooks. He seems like he is ALL BALL. In the past the Seahawks have been burned by going for talent over ball. Brooks is all ball. And he seems to be blessed with talent.
Rob, you’re a legend. Love the coverage.
Thanks Alex
We, here, must admit that, although we are quite adept at identifying “Seahawky” players, and we certainly know the team well enough to state the obvious that Seattle needed to add a DE; but we must honestly admit that we did not identify either Brooks or Taylor among our oft-mocked picks.
Why is that, why is it that, after so much analysis, we were off-target? The main reason is the most obvious one, we are amateurs and John and Pete are professionals. They sit atop a massive organization of scouts and investigators. They know medicals, they know character, they know the behind-the-scenes of these players. Mostly, they know the nuances of play that fit the Seahawk scheme, and no matter how much we care, how much we study, we basically know none of these things. It becomes circular, each draftnik reading the other and working within a confined space.
Let’s look at it like Pete and John probably looked at it… they reviewed last season and immediately noticed certain things: 1) speedy QBs could scramble at will and pick up a first down any time they felt like it (Kyler Murray, Lamar Jackson and even Teddy Bridgewater shamed us); 2) we had no pass rush, duh!; 3) our OL was much worse than the year before, with mostly the same personnel, so we conclude that we were injured or lost a step due to age, either of which called for a complete re-set of the OL.
So, what happened in the draft? #1, we draft a “horizontal” LB, one who is capable of stopping the ball from crossing the LoS, especially on scrambles, jet sweeps, etc… that is Jordyn Brooks personified. #2, we draft two central-casting Leos, not only with quicks, but with a powerful lower body and the blast to bend the edge around OTs plus the power to bull inside. #3, we draft Mike Solari’s fantasy OG in Damien Lewis and immediately cut his competition, Fluker.
I think, in my daily readings of this blog, virtually no one highlighted need #1, how did we miss that? We spent almost all our time on #2, yet somehow did not identify the one player who Pete and John clearly thought was the best Leo outside Chase Young. Was it because his injury kept him from performing at his peak? Certainly, his Leo attributes are obvious even in a 2 minute YouTube highlight. These are the kind of things amateurs miss, and only professional scouting departments catch. As for #3, it should come as no surprise to us, watching the inadequate run blocking and the terrible pass blocking, that Pete and John would completely re-tool the OL with younger and/or quicker players, without giving up the power run game. I am excited to see how our OL with 4 new starters will perform.
I am also excited to benefit from Rob’s insights and very hard work on our behalf. It’s been fun, guys, and here’s to another great year. Go Hawks!
With all due respect, Taylor was brought up quite a bit and a lot of people on here really liked him. The injury was the big question, which we obviously didn’t know the specifics. Being able to bring him into the VMAC really helped in that case I believe since SEA had much better information than the majority of other teams.
I gotta disagree about Taylor.
Are you kidding?
We talked about Taylor a ton. Not as much as some others, granted. But a ton.
And the reason none of us saw the Brooks pick coming had nothing to do with our level of expertise.
Not sure exactly where this was coming from. No one guessed Brooks, it’s true. But it’s not because no one here had less info about players than John and Pete, it’s that those two don’t share what they are thinking, which leaves everyone somewhat in the dark ,which is what they want.
And as far as Taylor, he was talked about a ton. He was even picked by several people in the correct round of the draft competition. Just not by our resident Duck fan.
Sam Gold had an interesting theory, one big reason the entire online seahawks community totally missed Brooks was that we all focused mainly on 2019 tape here, and the Pete must have fallen in love with Brooks off of his 2018 tape. Just an idea, not saying that is 100 percent the case. Feel free to disagree.
Essentially Kliff used Brooks has a hybrid inside-outside linebacker, where as Matt Wells used him as a traditional MIKE. We’ll be using him as Kliff used him, where his tape is generally better.
I’m not sure about that. I missed on him because they paid Wagner last year, hadn’t cut Wright, traded up for Cody Barton, drafted BBK, hadn’t done anything to fix the pass rush properly and this was a top heavy draft for OT and skill positions.
It had nothing to do with his tape.
Rob, i cleary remember you mentioned not miss on LB. No one expected Seahawks picking LB, no one had Jordan Brooks picked first round.
You did great as always before.
Regarding Taylor- I watched 3 games of his 2019 tape, and came away wanting more. Now knowing he played all of 2019 with a stress fracture changes things. 2018 tape Taylor shows more explosion and bend. He can wreck games check out the linked game.
2018 vs. Georgia: https://youtu.be/1i9fRXjciLI
Couple things I like about Taylor are looking for the strip when he gets to the QB, and he varies his pass rush moves throughout the game.
Rob talked about adding speed on defense all the team.
Really like this article. It’s a strong reminder of the importance of intangibles to a program and culture like the Seahawks. Pete had that same culture at USC and it was a huge part of his amazing success there.
The more I sit with the SEA draft class, the more I like it. Like most, I was surprised by the Brooks pick when it happened but quickly came to see the reasoning behind it. And I believe, albeit without any proof besides rumors, that BAL would’ve taken Brooks at 28 if SEA hadn’t. Not that that means anything, other than SEA was able to get both the prospect they were really after (Taylor) AND the prospect they hoped they could have if the board fell the right way (Brooks). And all without trading down the way they usually do.
And to get Damien Lewis, a consensus top-50 pick in R3…chef’s kiss.
I listened to the post draft podcast last night and what I really liked about this draft, the way it was produced and televised, was being able to enter into the homes of so many prospects. There’s something about seeing them inside their homes, surrounded their families and friends, that really makes me feel like I know them in a way I never could otherwise. I noticed that many (most?) of the prospects lowered their heads and cried when they were selected, many more than in a normal draft. I wonder if that’s because they were home, surrounded by family and friends who shared their journey to the NFL, who supported them, encouraged them, nurtured them, and they felt the emotion of the moment more acutely than if they were in some crowded venue with all the other prospects.
Also, with respect to Robinson, I’m a little surprised they didn’t take Trevis Gipson instead. Not hugely surprised just a little. He was rumored to be on their board and he was available when they took Robinson. Anyone else, wonder about this?
I think they were as surprised that Robinson was on the board still as we were about say, taking a LB in round 1.
Exactly this. Pete mentioned it in the past draft presser. Same thing with Lewis being available at 69.
So you’re saying Robinson >> Gipson?
I don’t know enough about either to form a definitive assessment. My sense is Robinson has the tools to be a starter, and has flashed starter quality play. He just lacks the consistency. Don’t know enough about Gipson.
Had a bit of a chuckle at your last two sentences “ He needs to perform to the level of Wagner and Wright while also providing the toughness and consistency they have delivered for a decade. If he does that — and helps them re-establish their defensive culture in the process — it will be a successful pick.”
So hey rook, no pressure but we just need you to perform at the level of two of the best linebackers in Seahawks history, go get em champ haha.
I have high hopes for this guy, he ticks a lot of boxes as fast as being fast, tough, hard hitter, can pressure QBs on blitzes…I think uou are right Rob, if KJ isn’t cut then I see them splitting time this year and planned as a full time Will next year.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/12thmanrising.com/2020/04/27/seahawks-offer-jadeveon-clowney-3/amp/
“710 ESPN reporting that the Seahawks have increased their offer to Clowney.”
Just read this before you posted. Very very promising, even though we don’t yet not know what the outcome will be.
Allegedly…not sure if the reporter has any real info or if he is just guessing.
You could be right, but a reporter hangs a lot out there when the state something like that is fact
He didnt state it as fact though he said he thinks they upped it. So sounds like a guess. Probably accurate still though
Ok. The title of the article reads, “ESPN 710 Seattle says Seahawks increased their offer to Jadeveon Clowney”. It is stated as fact even though it sure may not be.
I still think that a reporter for a reputable organization like ESPN puts a lot on the line when they use A factual statement like that as the title of the article. I did read that it and he backpedals in the body of the article using “believes” and “may”, but I hope for the reporter’s sake this is not an inaccurate article for the purpose of Clickbait. There is a high degree of sensitivity around the subject right now, and click bait is not taking kindly.
As far as I can tell John Clayton has simply suggested a possibility and it’s turned into an enticing, not-entirely accurate title.
Another great article Rob and thank you for continuing to produce amazing content for us to consume!
Thanks Tien
Nick Bellore or Jacob Hollister. Who do you keep, a FB or a fourth TE/HB?
…and what is Bellore’s cap hit/savings this year?
Sorry, my reply was suppose to be here. They can save $1m releasing Bellore and $3.259m releasing Hollister
Pete already talked about the plans for Hollister this season…they loved what he gave the team last year and feel he has a different skill set than the other TE’s. Parkinson they want to beef up a little and make him a true Y TE and Sulivan will be listed as a WR. Willson is the TE that I think is gone and Olsen is only a 1 year deal…
Hollister isn’t going anywhere…
agreed Hollister is too valuable
…so four TEs and a FB on the roster? that’s a crowded lot, no?
Hollister 1 million percent. Bellore was just a special teamer.
‘Just a special teamer’
Bill Belichick has several long serving ‘just special teamer’s’. It’s a vital part of a winning team.
They really like Bellore on special teams, doesnt really play many snaps on offense. Hollister has a big price tag and we could go with Dissly, Olsen, Parkinson and Sullivan. I vote Bellore.
Come on… ridiculous
I think many of the new rookies will be excellent on special teams. No surprise as that is one of the things that the front office looks for during their selection process. I do think, however, some of these new guys could potentially replace other players that are carrying a cap hit, if they need to regain some of that Space.
It wouldnt surprise me for a second if Hollister didnt make the final roster. Olsen, Dissly and Parkinson are making the team. They havent kept four TE’s in the past. If they do it could be Hollister or it could be Sullivan. Not saying they wont keep Hollister but it wouldnt surprise me if they didnt.
My money is on Hollister sticking around this year. Kid really showed some grit late last season, and came through when the team was down to the practice squad TE.
Sullivan is likely targeted for the PS this year, a developmental TE but some added insurance for a Dissly or Olsen injury.
Someone come pick up their kid! One of our UDFA CB’s:
https://twitter.com/TheKSiverand/status/1079965450119888896
If Im that receiver the QB and I are having a discussion…lol
Downright ‘Chancelloresque’!
+1
Rob, providing a draft blog that is focused on draft prospects in light of Seahawks team and needs is spectacular, such a valuable resource and source of enjoyment for Seahawk fans. I look forward to reading your posts and analysis like I used to look forward to reading Kearly on Seahawks.net.
Thank you for continuing to provide entries after draft is over. Your strategy to focus on prospects before their Senior or final years is a brilliant one that might lessen chance of over-looking a prospect that Schneider and Carroll have targeted..
How would you compare our 2nd round DE pick Taylor and prospect Zuniga who I thought was a possible Seahawks Target based on being most similar to Frank Clark?
Are you more disappointed in Seahawks not drafting Jonathan Taylor or one of the top WR in a strong class?
I’m not disappointed with anything to be honest — I don’t attach to players for Seattle because you only end up let down. You can’t have them all.
I like the potential of Darrell Taylor and if they feel comfortable with the medicals — I’m very comfortable with it too.
And you’ve interviewed another Seahawk!
How did we miss this guy? Look at those arms! (pause at 0:26 mark)
https://twitter.com/AggieFootball/status/1244376348786917376
Look out Shaq. With a name like DB1, this guy is coming for your job.
Gig ’em, Aggies!
He’s got intriguing size and length. I’m more disappointed about missing Baylor S Chris Miller? Have you got to check him out at all yet? lmao.
Wild horse man. Not sure there was a safety in this class that plays as fast as he does. Pure reckless abandon. Big time hitter. If Seattle can break him and reign him in? Watch out. He’s a potential x factor. Nasty little SOB.
I thought we got him as an UDFA. Did that fall through?
No. He did sign as an UDFA. I meant missing him as not identifying him earlier or during the season. You’ll see what I mean if you haven’t been able to watch him.
He’s the UDFA I’m most intrigued about before, brings the boom. Could see him pushing Lano of the 53.
We did. He’s a Seahawk.
Any insight on why he went undrafted? Im with V12, he looks the part in what little ive seen.
Non-spectacular physical profile and seen as a bit of a liability as a head hunter. He was on my horizontal board as a late pick.
“Missing” as in we here on SDB didn’t have him on our radar for Seattle.
Yeah, got that after Vol12’s reply. Glad we got him now…and Renfro. There were a few more Aggie receivers that went as UDFAs as well, but not to us.
Miller reminds me of a safety we had in camp a few years ago but I completely forget his name. Ugh.
Hey Rob, nice write-up about our latest 1st round acquisition. As much as I hate to admit it, I also see him as KJ’s successor as well. If he gets to play a year with KJ showing him the ropes that will be awesome. I love KJ, as many of us do, and consider him to be one of the best LB’ers in the league but he has always been in Bobby’s shadow. Jordyn has some big shoes to fill!
I was so glad to see that you aren’t planning to take a sabbatical this year, thanks for that, more than you know.
Rob, speaking for myself and I’m sure every other reader, but we will gladly read as much as you will give us!! Can’t thank you enough.
Thanks Porter
This blog has been a tremendous blessing and invaluable distraction during what has been a difficult time. It has made my life better by serving as a sorely needed source of excitement and joy. Thank you from the bottom of my heart for providing that Rob. I don’t know how you do it. But as long as you keep churning out content, I’ll be gratefully absorbing it.
Also, thank you to the community as well. In my opinion this is literally the only website where the comments are valuable and worth reading. The conversation following Rob’s pieces has been a big help to me.
Thomas — reading a post like that gives me major energy and motivation. Thank you.
Nicely said Mr Wells, I also love the articles and the conversation!!
I absolutely agree with Rob that culture is as important — maybe even more important — than talent (although both are needed). That’s what the analytics crowd don’t get and why Pete has been so successful with the Seahawks — he is a master at building culture whatever perceived shortcomings he may have.
Bet no one we drafted interviewed from bed, in their pajamas.
The analytics crowd of Seahawks twitter was rough on this draft. This team will be right there in the thick of it as the season comes to a close and if at least one of these rookies will don’t have a DK like impact, 2 or 3 of them combined will. It’s a sneaky good draft.
Like you said, for all their shortcomings and only having 20 something sacks they were half a yard short of a 1st round bye.
I need an edit button more than anyone. Jesus.
I re-read my simple posts 2X before submitting and still f*#k up.
Aren’t they always rough on the Hawks? Saw Ben”RB’s don’t matter” Baldwin would’ve picked Josh Jones at 27. Jones went #72. Not a good look.
Analytics are a piece of the puzzle, but it’s lazy to paint the whole picture with such a limited brush. Take Taylor, for instance. Nothing in the formula does it say anything about a player having a solid season while playing with a stress fracture in his shin. That’s got to kill every time he bends the edge. While the analytics community thinks Brooks is not a great coverage linebacker, he’s got the speed and agility to buzz the flat and pick up a back effectively and let’s be real. The Big 12 is a predominately passing conference. He had more opportunities to put some tough plays on film. He’s fine. I’m pretty happy with the players they got with the limited number of total picks with which they came into the draft.
Rob, long time reader. First time post. Just had to say that this is my first and favorite site for intelligent and well thought out draft and Seahawks analysis. Your just like a direct feed into what the Seahawks are thinking. Love it. And thank you for your time and amazing effort.
This may be way off, but Regarding Brook’s fit and KJ’s future. With KJ losing a step as we all will due to Father Time. Is there any chance he transitions to SAM with brooks being a more natural Will. Much like CB’s sometimes transition to safeties in their later years? This would allow all three to be on the field more… thoughts?
Thank you 👍🏻
And yes that is very possible
Rob, I’m a bit late getting in the gratitude queue (hey-it’s early here), but this is a thank you for all that you do. I generally lack the confidence to weigh in on the finer points of football analysis, but love to ‘hang out on the edges of the campfire’ like the grizzled old-timer that I am and take in the commentary as it flows from you and some of the regulars (who are also generally amazing, by the way!).
I love the way you appreciate the ‘blue-collar ethos’ that P.C./J.S. have worked hard to incorporate into the character of this team. I love the way it links back to what this city was before its incarnation as a ‘high-tech tinsel-town’. (Nothing against the tech industry-got family there).
Being ‘a12’ is a thing a man chooses. Being a Seattlite is a thing you are born to. I have been away forever and a day, but was born on ‘Pill Hill’ and graduated from the U. W. As a duly designated representative of no one and not much of anything in particular, I hereby award you, for your unflagging dedication to Hawkdom and service abỏve self, the status of ‘Honorary Seattlite’!
Thank you Bankhawk!!
What is everyones thoughts on how many players at each position will make the new final 55? A nice 26/26 split or maybe 27/25? I know this is very early but it could look like this.
Offense (27)
QB…2
RB/FB…5
WR…6
TE…4
OL…10
Defense (25)
DLine…10
LB…6
CB…5
Safety…4
are you considering Irvin as DL or LB?
four TEs and a FB on the roster? ugh.
Offense (26)
QB: 2
RB: 4
WR: 6
TE: 4
OL: 10
Defense (26)
DL: 10
LB: 6
CB: 5
Safety: 5
ST (3)
You put 4 TE’s as well…lol. Its all for fun, just interested in how it will all play out. I wonder if those extra two spots go straight to both lines? For now I would put Irvin in as a DE.
Yeah. I went 4 TEs, but no FB. Not sure how it’ll all go down. I still have Amadi listed as a S as well
Thanks Rob for all the outstanding coverage, and for this insightful article. During the draft I was able to calm some angry text threads by quoting your instant reviews of Hawk picks ha. What a wonderful distraction this has been, with all that’s going on. Now let the long wait for a big name pass rusher please come to an end…
Thanks Huggie!
Rob, like a fine wine you just get better and better. My only complaint is, as a recovering addict, you got me hooked not only on your blog but also the draft simulator. Lol! I even did a draft for next year even though I don’t know a thing! Bottom line is I thought I was going to have to go cold turkey so you could take a well deserved break. While I am going to try to stay away from the simulator, I am so glad I will continue to get my fix from your excellent content.
Thank you Mate
Thank you 👍🏻
A heartfelt thank you for your hard work Rob. It was a nice respite from reality.
And damned if this isnt one of the best little pieces youve ever written. I write environmental documents, and way long time ago got paid a pittance for writing music reviews for a long-defunct online music magazine. Thats hardly a claim to fame, but it does allow me to congratulate you on your writing, with a bit more behind it, I hope. Your growth as a writer and internet evaluator has been a pleasure to watch. I cant do anything clise to what you do.
Heh, I dont think your comment editing is the reason this blog is good, but hey, its your blog and I certainly havent made my own. I dont have to agree with you all the time to appreciate your effort and intelligence.
Keep it up, and it will pay off. From one middle-aged Seahawks nut to another not-so-old one, Salute!
Awesome piece, STTBM.
Thanks Bobbyk!
I recognize both your names from back in the old TNT Seahawks Insider… Sandro and Eric Williams era there were pretty cool!
Remember when the 3 of us got together at that bar in Montana? I remember you guys! STTBM – that little one isn’t so much a baby anymore, right?
where’s Dukeshire . . . .
Good question, his was definitely a big contributor on TNT. Also good to see Georgiahawk here sometimes as well. I don’t even bother with the Trib anymore, their website is horrible so I miss out on a lot of Gregg’s articles.
It’s fun to see all these familiar names on here. Living our lives – still looking for a home to talk about the Hawks. For some, not all, I think it’s because we don’t live in Seattle any more (I’m in LA), and it’s not so easy to find Seahawk-obsessed fans in your daily life . . .
Dukeshire….GeorgiaHawk, Hawkfansince77, I miss arguing with a bunch of them! Too bad things fell apart right when it was becoming a real community and folks were talking about meeting up. Such is life…
No, she’s 6 and won’t sleep till I’m half dead lol! And Hawkfan is not MontanaMike, whom we hung out with. I’ve never met Hawkfan, but Mike and I are friends to this day. My invite for dinner still stands if you’re ever in NW Montana, Bobby! I’m not half as nuts in person, as you should know lol!
This write-up of UDFA Josh Norwood DB from West Virginia is really good (apologies if someone already posted it).
https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/2020-nfl-draft-josh-norwood-aims-to-triumph-through-tragedy-as-he-reaches-for-his-nfl-dreams/
A couple of quotes:
-“Josh has what they call ‘dawg’ in him. He is aggressive,” -West Virginia defensive coordinator Vic Koenning
-“You learn to deal with things yourself,” Norwood said. “Not just keeping things to myself, just with dealing with things on my own. I don’t have too many crutches around me if something went wrong.
-And sadly: “On that May 2003 evening in Georgia, Veronica Norwood had run from a mobile home after being doused by gasoline and lit on fire by her boyfriend, according to police. Norwood, 24, suffered third-degree burns over 90% of her body. Reports said she was put in a medically induced coma for eight months and was actually released from the hospital before dying in February 2004 due to complications.”
Wow.. another tough kid overcoming adversity. Talk about the ‘Hawks rebuilding the culture.
Maybe he can be the UFDA who makes it as a slot corner?
As a few others have mentioned above… the chemistry stuff is so unbelievably important. I know I’ve been hard on the “talent” that Pete and John have on the roster – but the chemistry the past couple years has allowed it to do more with less (like the playoffs two years in a row and being so close last year). After Pete basically fired everyone (most coaches) after the LOB era – he’s gotten rid of the non-buy in guys (see Sherman, Richard) and replaced them with (mostly) lesser talents who do buy in. That’s such as HUGE factor that analytics people have no clue about. Some very good comments above about that (and Rob’s post). Thank you.
For next year:
Jevon Holland (Safety) out of Oregon is a baller. CJ Verdell, RB, is another one as he’s along the lines of what the Hawks tend to look for (maybe a bit short). Looks for contact, and runs tough. They have a few more that will get drafted, but I’m not sure they’ll be targets (Lennoire, Graham, Scott, ISM). Sewell is amazing, but we won’t have a chance at him.
Oregon State has a good looking LEO prospect named Hamilcar Reshad.
Joe Tryon EDGE from UW doesn’t look as fast to me as Reshad, but really long and looks good. Levi Onwuzurike is a DT to watch.
Paulson Adebo, Stanford is an awesome DB. Probably the best CB in the conference.
A few names from my early Pac12 North class of ’21 anyway. Anyone have others to keep an eye on?
Rob I am just so thankful for you and this community. Like so many others I come and visit many times each day and read every post. I am grateful for the distraction, the knowledge I have gained, and a sense of comradery with fans who I may never meet but somehow think I know. To you and all that post a big thank you.
We are so blessed to have Rob. As a professional writer, I know how much work goes into this blog. His writing is accessible and insightful. I come to this web page often because I need an escape from the realities of the world. Plus his analysis of prospects is second to none.
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
Thank you 👍🏻
Hoping to ‘reset market,’ Texans lineman Laremy Tunsil thrilled he negotiated new deal on his own…. definitely a better negotiator than the GM/HC/Poobah in charge of the team. 😛
When you trade that much for him – you have no choice but to sign him. Even if he’s like Okung or Ifedi and has 492,495,103 penalties per year.
Pete and John managed the draft the way Sweden managed the virus: with intelligence, foresight, and the guts to go against the grain. Time will tell whether their respective decisions were the right approach but, to me, their choices seem more sound than several other NFL teams…and various countries, like the US/Britain.
This lockdown is the pinnacle of human stupidity, which is saying a lot.
But at least we still have SDB.
I’m not sure if I should agree with this or laugh at it (and I mean no disrespect).
Sweden is about the same size as one US state (California – though Sweden is a bit bigger geographically).
That being said, California has about 10M more people than Sweden (about 37M to about 27M). Who’s right?
How is it going for the rest of you? All I know is that I live in a rural Minnesota community and we’ve seen almost nothing of this virus. We had 1 confirmed case in our county about 3 weeks ago and… NOTHING since.
That being said, something is obviously wrong (and my county cannot be right to represent the rest of the world/US) and I know the singular small area of the world in which I live cannot be right.
Just curious…
Look up the effects of racial diversity in Sweden increasing and support for public policies. Interesting stuff there.
Don’t want to nitpick, but Sweden has around 11m inhabitants. This number is a bit misleading, since 65% of all Swedes are living in three dense metropolitan areas.
I currently live in a so called hotspot. And while we have around 130 cases in our city of 35,000, nobody has died to date. Around 70% of these cases are in care facilities, a third being the employees themselves. They have stopped putting hard cases onto the ventilator, because for the elder, this is a death sentence and the treatment as such regarded unethical, the chance of survival for the younger is doubled without ventilator. You only get this type of info, if one of your badminton bros is a doctor.
My daughter’s school is shut, they have a platform setup for solving tasks. It’s better than nothing, but hardly educating. My son is missing his friends and playing soccer, most parents are still too panicky to allow their kids out.
If someone would ask me, what we lack, it’s evidence, all across the board. Only fear, uncertainty, doubt, panic mode. Today some doctor says tbis, tomorrow another will tell you the contrary.
Will be tough going back to normal. But we absolutely have to, and we have to start living with Corona and Covid-19, at some point. Like the flu, this virus family isn’t going anywhere. The Japanese, Taiwanese, Koreans… they live under the threat of another pandemic just around the corner since 60 years. They adapted, so we have to adapt, and I guess, we will.
Totally share in your sentiment McZ. I’m connected to two hotspots. From and have business ties to New Orleans and live in NYC. Very tough to grapple with. But it’s the lack direction from up top that is most frustrating. No clear vision of approach is what is giving each city and state the difficult responsibility of managing a “global” pandemic. They’re not equipped for this. It’s why the instructions are so unclear and a hodgepodge of solutions from community to community which creates more fear and dissolution about a solution. Unfortunately with no end in sight.
It’s very difficult to watch and live through at the same time. Happy to hear how everyone is dealing, nonetheless.
The lockdown is the pinnacle of human stupidity?
Work and live in Scandinavia, Saxon. Sweden has 3x’s the death rate that Denmark does due to the virus. The Swedish death rate is even higher when compared to Norway and Finland’s Covid19 mortality… all three Nordic countries locked down early and it saved lives. Norway and Denmark have started to open up again, carefully, as things are under control at the moment. Sweden isn’t a success story unless you’re a mortician looking for work. Highest death rate per 100,000 people in Scandinavia, and it’s not close.
You’re right about SDB though!
Stayed up late with you over here, Rob, a fantastic escape during these dark times! Your research and writing are exceptional. My personal ‘best value’ pick is Colby Parkinson, huge catch radius, strong hands, a Husky and Duck killer over the years. Glad to see him out of the P12. Gonna be a red zone wonder, imv, especially with Wilson’s touch imv. A great big new toy for Russ to play with!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECc1CvQycC8
Thank you
This is Rob’s blog and he, understandably, doesn’t want us delving into politics – so I’ll just say this: Sweden did not shut down and their per incident Covid morbidity rates are commensurate with those countries that did shut down. Also, Sweden will reach herd immunity much faster than the rest of the developed world. So, they didn’t destroy their economy, the death rate is statistically similar, and they will be more resistant than the US and GB. Population is irrelevant, apart from genetic composition, because these trends are extrapolated per capita.
Why is this the pinnacle of human stupidity? Because the cure will be exponentially worse than the disease. BobbyK mentions rural Minnesota having few cases, yet the shutdown is in effect in places like that. Why? We are destroying thousands of businesses, millions of jobs, critical supply chains, massively devaluing the dollar which will lead to hyper-inflation, and are on the precipice of a second Great Depression all in order to halt a virus that will wind up slightly more deadly than the flu. Idiocy.
If you only consume main stream media you probably don’t know any of this but search YouTube for the dozens of epidemiologists, virologists, scientists, and economists that are dissenting from the lockdown approach. Perhaps they will be proven wrong but you need to understand the data that drove their conclusions. The media never gives context.
This is flatly untrue. The morbidity rate in Sweden is much higher than in other Nordic countries who locked down. It is not “commensurate” in any reasonable use of that word.
As of today, the death rate per 100,000 cases in Sweden is 3 times that of Denmark, and over 5 times that of Norway and Finland.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/28/europe/sweden-coronavirus-lockdown-strategy-intl/index.html
Facts can be so irritating sometimes–they can change over time, and they can also fail to support dearly-held narratives.
Now, you can still argue in the face of the statistics, if you want, that “the cure is worse than the disease.” I happen to think that is wrong in this instance. But we need common facts.
It’s also a mistake to bring up faster herd immunity in Sweden. There have been so many cases of people getting sick, recovering and getting it again, when these have always been the people who develop immunity. The bottom line is that no one really knows what is going to happen and I’d personally rather be in lockdown fora bit if it makes things better in the long run.
You really need to stick to sports (and find better sources for your news)
I’m unsurprised that you chose CNN as a source, Hawkdawg. You mention the games that can be played with statistics then cite other Scandinavian countries while ignoring the US and UK, which I referred to.
Deaths per million people:
Belgium: 630
Spain: 503
Italy:446
France: 347
UK: 317
Netherlands: 262
SWE: 223
USA: 171
So, again, compare Sweden with all the countries that destroyed their economies by shutting down and compromised herd immunity through social distancing. I would rather be in Sweden. We could have taken a targeted approach, like they did, safeguarding the elderly and frail, while everyone else could have kept their jobs and businesses.
The true scandal of this insanity will be evident once ALL the data comes to light. It was an absurd overreaction. It wouldn’t been if the WHO’s initial estimate of 3.4% lethality had been accurate, but it wasn’t. The number is roughly 0.03% and falling. You don’t destroy your way of life due to minimal risk of death.
Please, can we move on from this now? This is a NFL community/forum. Not a covid-19 theory forum.
Sorry, Rob. You’ve mentioned it a few times in your posts so I thought it was somewhat on topic. I’ll drop it.
When people have asked me how it might impact the NFL and college football, I’ve answered. I haven’t got into a long debate about death rates in Sweden.
Saxon, not trying to be mean, but I LIVE here. And watch and read the news in real time in non-English newspapers and broadcasts (ie, the natives’ language) There is very little political slant re: the virus compared to the states, and no political leader is talking about possibly injecting the populace with bleach. Not even Sweden. 😉 Sweden’s neighbors are not so happy about their approach and there are/will be consequences, ie longer border shutdowns and two week quarantines for those who dare visit. Every Swede we know is self-quarantining on their own, by the way, working from home, not visiting restaurants and cafes, etc.
Back to football. The NFL is rather surprisingly becoming more and more popular over here, given how hard it is to actually understand the game for Europeans. (what is all of that “huddling”, they wonder.) It’s amusing to watch the Danish broadcasters try to explain it in Danish during the Sunday night live broadcasts of games but
they have a ton of passion for it, there’s a hardcore base of fans, pretty cool. (they even have a league here) The most common question to our favorite sports pastime – Rob and other ex-pats may get this as well – is: “why is American football is called ‘football’ when feet are rarely used.” It’s normally asked with a solid amount of irritation given their great love of (European) Football over here, they don’t like that we’ve stolen the name of their religion…. and come up with one that makes no sense to replace it – ‘soccer’.
(If anybody has a good answer on the history behind the names, it’d be much appreciated. Haven’t been able to find a definitive answer, or a comeback while getting mercilessly chipped on in pubs when watching the Hawks.) lol
I’ve been to Stockholm several times and my daughter dates a young man that lives in Gothenburg. I understand that many Swede’s are insular anyway, but restaurants / cafes / shops are still open. Contrast that with where I live in New England. All our businesses are completely shutdown, including mine that grosses over $1,000,000 per year. We have no cases. Our economy is absolutely ravaged and many businesses will never reopen…and we have NO CASES. What we’re doing is madness.
It’s incredible to me how suggestible and compliant some of us are. People only seem to apply skepticism to the counter-narrative when it’s the dominant narrative we should be wary of. Or, throw out all narratives and look at the raw data. It tells me there is no justification for these kinds of draconian actions.
As I said, move on. I will delete any more posts on this subject. This is a NFL community.
Thanks Rob. Good stuff. I can’t wait to keep reading vital Seahawks information here. I’m interested in the OL now that Britt and Fluker ha E Been released and the signing of Clowney hopefully soon now that they’ve upped their offer. Get it don’t, John!
I really dont get it? Who said he cant take physicals? I mean every single player who signed since new season start passed physicals before signing. There were reports about David Johnson and Deandre Hipkins passing their physicals etc…
Great article and insight. Like everyone was happy to hear u were going to keep content coming. The in depth analysis, content, and community provided here has been a respite for me. Thanks Rob, your efforts are greatly appreciated.
Thanks for continuing the blog Rob, your takes are always enjoyable and informative to read and yes, at this difficult time, serve as a wonderful outlet to what’s happening in the world right now. Thanks for your essential work too.
I definitely agree with your take on Brooks and mentioned why I think Seattle made the pick in your initial review of the pick a few days ago. Unfortunately I think some were caught off guard by the pick and weren’t able to see at that time how Brooks offered LB support in so many areas. Speed and tackling were a huge issue last season and any injection the front office brass can add I’m a huge fan of. This guy possess both!
Now that the draft is over, excluding Clowney or Griffen (too make it more interesting) which FA do you think Seattle should take a hard look at? Mike Daniels, Clay Mathews, Snacks….etc?
Thank you 👍🏻
Everson Griffen, Carlos Hyde and any DT.
Always appreciate your insight and draft coverage! Has been awesome learning more and being exposed to various players that we can get excited about when the season comes. I agree regarding draft strategy. It really seemed that this year, they didn’t feel they had any *major* needs and went with whoever was best available. They then got the player they needed, but didn’t want to reach for in the next round which is awesome! Listening to the post draft conference, it was apparent last year that the rushers were flying off faster than they had predicted and for that reason, they essentially needed to take LJ. You could sense that he wasn’t considered their best player on the board, but they had such a huge need. I’m excited to see how these guys contribute to the Hawks long term vision. I feel that we have a ton of really exciting talent in the past 3 years and we could start to see this young core reach their potential.
Thank you Deric
If you don’t want them to game the system, don’t make it work like that…
What lol….
So we’re policing intent now? My money is also on nothing happening
…. has it not been obvious to the league that this has been happening for years?
IMO, the comp pick system won’t survive the next CBA.
Having added Robinson and Taylor I have to admit I fee much better about the additions of Irvin, Benson M and potential Griffen. At least we have young talent to develop behind these guys now this year. If they can get a productive year out of Bruce, two out of Benson and a year or two out of Griffen then Taylor, Robinson + hopefully Collier should be able to step up into lead roles.
Unless they sign Clowney to a long term deal I would still put Edge Rusher at the top of the needs list nest year.
2021 Draft Needs (Way to Early of course)
-Edge
-OT
CB
I agree. If we can get Griffen/Clowney along with a vet DT, I think we’ll be at least average on DL with some potential. I don’t think that group would be worse than what we saw last season. At least they better not be. That being said, SEA does need to get one of those two at DE and a vet DT.
I know others have made the comp between Mayowa and Clemons when SEA acquired him, but I never really looked into it. The stats and career arcs are pretty similar. Granted, I’m not sure Mayowa is the athlete Clemons was. I think PCJS see potential for a breakout season from Mayowa. They liked him originally, and a lot of people thought he should’ve been kept around. I think a rotation of rushers between Mayowa, Irvin, Taylor, and Robinson could be effective.
I still have a hard time believing this defense can function unless Taylor develops into a star.
It’s a basic scheme that relies on rushing with four. Simply being better than 2019 isn’t good enough. They need to be a threat and create pressure with four. Otherwise they are so easy to play against.
They need more talent at DE and DT. That’s why Clowney is so important.
I wonder if Seattle will struggle on Offense as well now, due to so much change on the offensive line.
Starting Haynes, Finney, Lewis allows them to develop real continuity. Starting 5 could be set for the next 2 years.
Continuity without availability is kind of worthless. It affected them down the stretch, last season.
I don’t think they’ll struggle on offense. They never really have with Wilson. The big concern remains the defense.
Rob,
A bit late on the huddle report accolades but dang sir, you have just become better and better all these years.
And thanks for the boatload of content in this time. Every year after the draft I get a little bummed waiting and waiting for your next article.
And finally sometimes I see posts where it feels that old heads are low key having a dig at some of Rob’s earlier, in the blogs lifetime, prognostications and I get a slight strain rolling my eyes…I mean to go from college/pro football fan being stoked on the big names every year like we all do to this super knowledgeable data driven (tef, weighted ten, wingspan, 3 cone, sparq score) powerhouse is incredible.
Keep up the absolutely incredible work!! Stay healthy and hopefully football comes back this year! Cheers
Thanks Peter.
And thank you for pointing out the stuff from the past. I’ll happily admit I made a lot of mistakes in the early PCJS years. I spent a fraction of the time I do now on the blog and I just didn’t have the data, information or the basic knowledge to do it to the extent I can now. I had to learn and self-scout like anyone else. There aren’t many blog that last a year or two, let alone 12. I’ll make more mistakes but I’ll also keep growing and learning every year.
Fluler to Ravens per Rapoport:
That didn’t take long.
I’m starting to realise Seattle made those moves on Sunday not because any deals were imminent after all.
I think they just waited until after the draft so as not to tip their hand about their iOL needs.
Wonder if they would have taken Cesar Ruiz had he fallen to them. Ditto with Kenneth Murray.
Always a mixed bag of emotions when a player gets snapped up 5 minutes after being cut. And by a quality personnel team like the Ravens.
Happy for him
Proud that the Seahawks got personnel that other successful teams really want
A little creeping concern that we shouldn’t have cut him
Immediately going to the tape on Lewis to ease the fears
You just knew where he was going. The Seahawks and Ravens just feel like mirror images of each other.
Get Jameis Winston out of the NFL
Hey Rob,
Just wanted to say how grateful I am for you and the work you do on this blog. It is truly amazing and incredible work. I am so happy to hear that you will continue writing instead of taking a break. Major props to you for the fact that you are miles ahead of the media and pundits when you are breaking down prospects. You always seem to know which prospects will go earlier then what people expect and which prospect will fall, and you know which prospects are riser way before anyone else knows it. You evaluate talent so much better than the pundits. I appreciate the breakdown of Jordyn Brooks, and I would also appreciate breakdowns of the other Seahawks prospects, as I am sure the community will to, if thats something you would be willing to do. All the best.
Thanks Max!
Got something on Colby Parkinson ready to go and dropping in a bit.
During the season, I usually download all the 710 podcasts to listen to while at work. I haven’t done that since the season was over, but started again for the draft coverage. I know the shakeup towards the end of last year was a little rough to get used to, but man it really hasn’t gotten much better. I still like some of the people on there, but some of it is just hard to listen to. Dave and Bob are probably my favorites.
One thought that was brought up on a different show was completely absurd to me. The notion that SEA is creating “too much competition” at some positions. Seriously? I understand that’s relative and people would like more competition in some places (CB,DL,S) and less in others (OL, TE), etc in terms of the number of guys competing for a spot. But to argue the fact that more competition will adversely affect the quality of whomever wins the starting job? That’s the point of the competition!! Always compete. If they don’t show their skills and actually take hold of the job, why would you believe they would have done so if there were less options available for that position? The extra few reps would’ve been just enough for that player to have a breakthrough? Injuries are a factor, sure, but I want the best players playing. Especially in a year where the offseason will be so messed up. Let the ones who prove they belong win the job.
On the OL I can understand that from the angle of chemistry and continuity. If you have 15 guys filtering in and out throughout the preseason there’s going to be a price to pay during the regular season. I can get say LG being a competition but 3 or 4 spots will be tough to properly evaluate what you’ve got. Every single year of the Cable years we had a rotating unit and the first 3 games of the season RW was always running for his life.
So from that angle I get it. You can overseason the stew a little on OL.
I can’t say I am horribly disappointed with drat weekend overall, but one thing really got to me…
Antonio Gibson going in the 3rd to the Skins. I cussed out loud when he went. I have no idea if he was ever on the Hawks radar, but the value as a return guy with 4.4 speed, big body, and tackle breaking machine had me drooling. Even if his primary value was on special teams, I wanted the Hawks to nab him something awful.
I think RBs came off the board a lot quicker than many expected.
Better let Roger Goodell know.
Feels so late. That’s like an extra ccx week you have to wait.
As Rob said, looks like they didnt cut Britt and DJ to make room fpr new signings. They just waited for draft to ends. Its mote than possible that nothing will happen soon.
Just draft in March wtf. Give these kids their playbooks
A week later then.
You definitely deserved a break, logged on this morning expecting to read a few comments pleasantly surprised to find new material.
Does anyone feel let down for a second time that there is no Clowney news? Once again I wake up and hurry to my phone for an update and notta.
A little bit, yes.
They’ve failed to seal the deal here — whether Clowney or the Seahawks are the main issue. This should’ve been done ages ago.
As Rob said, looks like they didnt cut Britt and DJ to make room fpr new signings. They just waited for draft to ends. Its mote than possible that nothing will happen soon.
Yep. Feels like an off-season of half measures.
Rob incredible as always. I can’t tell you how much time I spend reading your insights.
Can you write an article on what you see the starting line up to look like with a brief snippet on the strengths and weaknesses of each play to be. Maybe highlight draft picks from the past 3-4 years and their roles on the team.
I really like the back 7.
Where does Barton fit it. Is he viewed as a leader.
Thanks Rob! What a truly unique and refreshing site this has become! As someone that sits back and continues to “take” and have done so since nearly the beginning I am having massive feelings of guilt. I know, as you mention so often, that this is a labor of love for you. I only wish that I could contribute in some small way. I know that a while ago I was able to give a small amount of money through venmo (I believe when you damaged your computer) and I’m not sure if that continues but I hope it does. I know that some of the many great contributors have asked for different website abilities and your response has been that it is very expensive. I understand the ramifications that come with this proposition. People might feel entitled. Selfishly I just want more. I want you to go to the Senior Bowl, I want more of your insight, I want this site to thrive. If money is not the right thing I totally get it. I can “give” if you let me. If you think that in any way changes what this site does then feel free to say no.
I cannot thank you enough for the years of insight, perspective and knowledge! Just a thought I had.
Your presence and contribution in the comments section is more than enough.
Thank you 👍🏻