Instant reaction: Seahawks beat hopeless Jets

There’s not a great deal to say about this game.

The Seahawks achieved their first blowout victory in what feels like forever. It was a glorious sight to see Geno Smith trotting onto the field, knowing there wouldn’t be any fourth quarter stresses and strains this week.

This was a game that needed to be won handsomely and it was. No messing about. No unnecessarily close scoreline. Just a hammering.

That said, the New York Jets were an utter shambles.

They appear destined to go 0-16 and frankly don’t deserve to be rewarded with Trevor Lawrence.

Aside from a few functioning drives and one fantastic interception from Marcus Maye, they were hopeless.

They missed three field goals before half-time to suck any energy out of their team and came out in the second half like they were all preoccupied by which movie they’d watch on the plane-ride home.

They extended drives for the Seahawks with stupid penalties and ill-discipline, appeared to have no answers on either side of the ball and they just lack talent.

They are a mess. I feel sorry for Clemson’s superstar QB if they’re going to pin all their hopes on him salvaging anything from this.

Seattle’s best moments included D.K. Metcalf’s superb route on his touchdown and some impressive running from Chris Carson. They ran the ball well overall and produced big numbers.

Yet they also dropped three easy interceptions, Russell Wilson still doesn’t feel like he’s returning to top form and there were some other sloppy moments.

Ultimately the game felt flat for all concerned. The Jets want to keep losing for Lawrence. Seattle just wants to roll on to the next three games where their season will be decided.

It felt like a bye week for the fans. No need for the booze or ibuprofen this week (whichever you turn to). There wasn’t much to worry about, or any real excitement. I’m not sure even a 40-3 cleanses the disappointment of last weeks loss, especially after Arizona hammered the Giants in New York earlier today.

Washington’s fearsome defensive line will be a completely different challenge next week. Seattle will need to win that game though because guess who the Rams are playing next week?

The New York Jets.

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  1. Sea Mode

    *Geno Smith

    • David Ashton

      Geno Atkins has all the credo of a top qb. Well balanced, good decision making and a real composure when creating pressure

  2. BobbyK

    The Jets may be terrible now, but a new regime isn’t in as bad of shape as one may think. After all, you build through the draft and it’s almost like the Jets have three full years of drafts coming up in the next two years, whereas the Seahawks have one draft coming up in the next three years.

    Even after the Jets take Lawrence, they still have a #1 (from the Seahawks) to help build around Lawrence. Then they’ll have the top pick in the second round and an extra third round pick (thanks to the Seahawks. If that’s not enough (which it isn’t for that horrible team), they’re rewarded with a couple first round picks to build around Lawrence when he goes into his second year (first rounder comes from, again, you guessed it – the Seahawks). The Seahawks may have helped the Jets in an almost similar manner the Vikings once helped the Cowboys by trading the farm for Hershel Walker.

    Nevertheless, it was good to see a dominant win. But, still, if you want to be a good/great team – just how good can it be to beat this Jets team? If they can beat Football Team next week by double digits, then count me excited again going into that Rams game. For now, this was probably the most “blah” 40-3 I’ve ever enjoyed.

    • Rohan Raman

      While the picks for the Jets are nice, they still have to get a new HC, hire new coordinators, change the culture, fix the O-Line, get a good DT outside of quinnen williams, get a CB1 and 2, find a primary edge rusher and get new weapons for Trevor Lawrence. They have zero good players on the offense, a solid DT in quinnen and an above-average safety in Marcus Maye. Not saying it’s impossible. But the chances that you can do all of that – and keep Trevor Lawrence alive – in 3 years or so……let’s just say it’s one of the greatest undertakings that I’ve ever seen for a second year GM and first year HC to inherit.

      • Jeff

        “They have zero good players on the offense…”

        While the Jets are indeed dismal this is not true at all. LT Mekhi Becton looks like a superstar, and Denzel Mims also looks like a legit receiver. They’re a mess, but they have a huge haul of draft picks and–perhaps just as importantly–projected around $80 million in cap space in a year where teams will be shedding lots of veteran talent to get in under the lowered cap.

        • Rohan Raman

          Becton is good, I’ll give you that. I kind of forgot he existed. But Mims has missed six games and has been OK in all of the games he’s played (hasn’t scored or eclipsed 100 yds). There’s little to suggest he’s a “legit receiver” like you claim.

      • BobbyK

        It’s not hard to hire a new coach. It’s even easier to hire quality when you have a plethora of picks for them, in addition to having a franchise QB fall in your lap. The best way to build a team is through the draft so it’s a little more about “While the picks for the Jets are nice…” It’s the very essence of building a team.

        • Rohan Raman

          “It’s not hard to hire a new coach”

          Right off the bat, I can think of at least five teams who would disagree with you. Detroit, Houston, Jacksonville, Chicago, Chargers. These teams have been “a new coach away” for maybe the last five years at minimum, despite having good draft capital.

          The Jets owner is a joke. And like I said, Joe Douglas has not yet proven he can identify the qualities in a good head coach.

  3. Troy

    Agreed Rob, can’t read much of anything from this game.

    Also sucks that the Rams are playing the Jets, thats almost a guarunteed W at this point for them.

    If they can beat Washington, that appears to be setting up a game for the division title the week after against the Rams. If they lose to the Rams, the deserve the wild card spot and the probable early exist.

    If they win the next two tho, then I will have hope for something bigger. We will see.

  4. Sea Mode

    They missed three field goals before half-time to suck any energy out of their team and came out in the second half like they were all preoccupied by which movie they’d watch on the plane-ride home.

    That’s a great line, Rob. Well done! Make the podcast short and sweet and let’s get some extra rest like our starters did today…

    • Big Mike

      Yeah very funny

  5. Kenny Sloth

    Only 2 games back from the #1 seed if this result holds in Philly

    • charlietheunicorn

      Saints play Chiefs next week *rubs hands together*

      • Kenny Sloth

        There’s a very clear path to #1 seed but we have to win out. 12-4 is a lot to ask for from this iteration of the team though

        • Hoggs41

          Its obtainable. If we can win out and the Chiefs beat the Saints we would just need GB to lose one.

        • Rob Staton

          Forget the #1 seed.

          • Kenny Sloth


            • Rob Staton

              All hopes for the #1 seed died last week — with the result and the performance.

              This is a race for the NFC West now.

              • God of Thunder

                1 overall is definitely unlikely but who foresaw the Saints losing to the Eagles today? Stuff can happen.

                • Rob Staton

                  If the Seahawks only needed a couple of weird results I would agree.

                  They don’t.

                  They need a couple of weird results, need to win three in a row themselves and have to play five times better than they are doing.

          • Kenny Sloth

            That’s completely not in the spirit.

  6. BruceN

    “I’m not sure even a 40-3 cleanses the disappointment of last weeks loss”

    I second that. On to next week. Washington is a tough opponent that plays an old fashioned brand of football with their ferocious defense and efficient and mistake free (but not spectacular) offense. Frankly, before this four game stretch started I was worried about the Redskins the most.

  7. TheOtherJordan

    Swing game of the year upcoming. If we lose to Washington, I find it hard to believe we beat the Rams. Even if we were to beat the 49ers, limping into the playoffs losing three of our final five games does not bode well for a deep playoff run. It makes it improbable. Because in the end who have we really beaten this year? Next week is a must win game.

    • AlaskaHawk

      Good win against a weak team. It was always going to come down to the upcoming Rams game.

  8. cha

    Post game Press Conf PC

    “Real solid performance across the board, red zone good, 3rd downs good, another day with the defense. Clear we made a turn. Dominating day. Big day by Russ. Rare to get him out of there in the 4th Q. Defense, a lot of guys playing like crazy together. See it happening. Few sacks today, good pass D, should’ve had more turnovers. Fired up at this time of year, playing best FB. If we do something special, it’s that the defense has turned it around and been special. Today, Jamal Adams all time sacker ever as a DB, worthy of a game ball. Fantastic FB player. Not done yet, more numbers. Emotional side too vs Jets. Not a big deal but it’s something. Happy for him.”

    [michael shawn] Confidence to play against better teams? “Starting too. Statement you make, if you respect the process, it doesn’t matter who you play. You should beat the Jets handily and we did. Everybody connected. Will we do it again? I don’t know, we’ll see, we’re playing good D though.”
    [michael shawn] Other things than game ball? “Recognize guys in mtg”

    [gregg] Defense big stride? “Big deal, we’ll find out though. W/o Dunlap today, needed another week. Big part, other guys responded. Really significant this week, gotta figure it out in DC next week.”
    [gregg] Shell ankle? “Tweaked it a couple times. Touch and go week. Proud of him, really wanted to play. Sore tomorrow.”

    [john boyle] Winning records this year, 9 straight years? “Not worthy of a game ball (laughs), good thing. Nothing I lvoe more than consistently being on it. Take the most pride year after year.”

    [bob condotta] RW quick short passes planned? “Not knowing what DC would call, stay with the quick rhythm stuff. RW great at it”
    [bob] Metcalf celebration? “Hope it was worthy of a penalty, didn’t see it.”

    [tim booth] Strange to pull RW so early? “Told Geno to get ready. Don’t have a format for doing it, haven’t done it much. Had some backup guys up front. RW great about it, Geno thrilled. Geno’s a good FB player, important to get snaps.”

    [larry stone] RW respond to criticism last week? “Great competitor. Bounce back fine. He’s tough on himself. Not surprised he had a great game. Really kicking into this 4th Q thing. He needs to do his part like everyone, glad he did.”

    [gregg] What assuring about D specifically? “Consistency, scheme wise, guys on their game. Can see it. Told you weeks ago. Step forward about accountability and awareness. Embracing principles of what we’re asking them to do. Give us to stay in game and make adj, fix things we need. Rush D best it’s been all season. Pass rush best it’s been all season. Fits what we do. Shame 4 TO’s in our hands couldn’t. Bobby a factor, Jamal a factor, KN Jr finding ways to mix these guys. Consistency crucial.”
    [gregg] Early season all new to see guys blitzing so much? “Had to settle in. Had to do with offseason and new guys. Unique bring special skills. Wasn’t continuity that we needed. Came back w same guys, you could see it. Just needed the time. Scores around the NFL down. Turn happening around the league. We’re no different.”

    [art thiel] RW quicker release work in practice or playcall? “Style of plays. More quick game involved calls for getting ball out. Play selection, fit the game plan. Game didn’t know what Jets were doing. They did their stuff our coaches figured it out. Good job by Schotty and guys on offense.”

    [joe fann] Clarification – Adams get a game ball? “He did.” [cha ed – whew that was going to keep me up tonight.]
    [joe fann] What Q had game won? “Don’t know why you’re asking, end of 3rd we subbe some guys in.”

    [brady] Jamal game? “Gained command of what we’re asking him to do. Rushed for 60 yards, they ran at him quite a bit, good job.”

    [corbin] Snacks playing into good run D? “Reading the C and reacting fits our scheme well. Mone was early, time with Poona too. Snacks fit the NT pos well. Helps us be consistent too.”

    [jackie] RB perfromances? “Run so hard. Love the way our guys run. Rip at the LOS. Exactly message we want to send. I’m in heaven. Love it. That’s seahawk FB.”

    [maz veda] Challenge to get former player not to focus too much on playing former team? “Brought focus to game today play showed it. Played like a real star. Focused and having fun playing FB. Of course fun to beat your old team. Handled it well.”

    [mark anzaro] Jets organization, empathy for 0-13? Potential 0-16? “I love this game, coaches players. Hat e to see anyone suffer through this. They care just as much as we do. Terrible thing to endure. Horrible year in Buffalo years back. Want to have fun and enjoy the game. Aware of it this week. During game obvious it’s tough on them. I get it.”

    • 12th chuck

      unless there is an injury that needs updating, I dont listen to the press conference’s anymore. I enjoy reading over them though, thanks cha.

    • Ok

      Hopefully they carefully handed the game ball to Jamal, no way he was catching it. I’ll see myself out.

      I far and away would rather read the Cha/Sea mode write ups compared to listening to the actual pressers. Thanks!

      • Sea Mode

        Haha, I was just going to ask if they handed him that same ball that he dropped… 😏

  9. John

    “ Seahawks Twitter” is already getting cocky after a lowly win against the Jets. People are even saying Seattle could potentially get the 1 seed after the saints loss.

  10. 12th chuck

    This game seems like it should have been a lot closer than it was. Hawks got away with a couple on d which should have continued jets drives, and had it not been for a few ill placed jets penalties, to keep a flat offense at times on the field as well. a win is a win.

  11. vbullen65

    Loved Joe Fann’s question about what quarter you had the game won.. He was poking fun at Pete always saying you can’t win a game in the 1st, 2nd, or 3rd quarter.

  12. Eric

    You said the Washington game is must win, but is it? The #1 seed is out of reach and the division can be won by winning against the Rams and 49ers, guaranteeing the same record as the Rams and a better division record even if the Seahawks lose to Washington.

    A loss against either division opponent will surely mean the Rams win the division.

    • Rohan Raman

      Technically, the #1 seed isn’t out of reach. It just requires some poor Packers play and us winning out. Not impossible, but doesn’t seem all that likely. Also, I think we need to win the Washington game b/c it is going to be an excellent barometer of how well this team can hold up against good pass rushes now that our offense is relatively healthy.

      • Rohan Raman

        Showing how we can handle good pass rushes is going to be crucial going forward, given the defenses we’ll encounter in the playoffs if we have any choice of a meaningful playoff run.

    • Rob Staton

      Yes, I believe the Washington game is a must win.

      It’s about much more than a record or what is capable. It’s everything to do with how you go into that game.

    • TheOtherJordan

      If Seattle loses to Washington, then they would be headed into the Rams game having lost 2 of their last three and their victory coming against one of the worst teams in the NFL in recent memory. Do you feel Seattle suddenly finds it versus Los Angeles under that scenario and is favored to win? Doesn’t mean they can’t but I don’t. Goff is clearly capable of playing a bad game. But frankly, recently, so is Russell. A much more likely scenario for me is McVay makes Seattle’s D look bad.

  13. Big Mike

    Correct me if I’m wrong….with Saints loss Seahawks would be the one seed had they not lost last week. 🙁

    • TomLPDX

      Don’t dwell on it it, Big Mike. Just enjoy that we did what we were supposed to do.

      • Big Mike

        I hear brother but….

  14. pdway

    A poor team – but way too many times this year we’ve been on the Hawks for playing down the level of their opponent. They took care of things today – Russell looked good for the most part. Carson too.

    I know it’s hard to gauge against a lousy team, but I think the D continues to show consistency in terms of getting some pressure (w/out Dunlap today), and overall, playing better. Jets are terrible, but they should have beaten the Raiders last week.

    If Haskins is starting for WFT, that game just got easier.

    Seems like no injuries too. Now to see what the Bills can do against Pitt, should be interesting.

  15. pdway

    Limited sample size for sure- – but I thought Parkinson looked kind of lively and athletic out there.

    Would be cool if he could develop into something.

  16. charlietheunicorn

    I still think the owner gave the kicker some money to miss some kicks today.

  17. TomLPDX

    I’m just going to enjoy the fact that we won this game the way we were supposed to. Next week is WFT. One game at a time.

    • charlietheunicorn

      We’ll see how the OL can hold up against a 4 man rush….. going to be a very tough game.

      • TomLPDX

        Did you notice how the OL players were moved around in Q4? Was that really Wheeler subbing in for LT! Wow!

  18. Jordie

    Literally the only thing annoying about tonight is that saints lost and would be in 3way tie at top of conference, instead we have secured #5 seed…

  19. Jordie

    Sorry not secured, but solidified …

  20. cha

    Grading my watch points

    Control the game.
    Grade: A-

    Very nice, balanced offensive effort. Aggressive, not all-or-nothing like it was last week. Very nice to see 174 yards rushing and 239 yards passing.

    They did have some moments where the Jets moved the ball on them at will. And those missed interceptions and missed sacks keep this from being a completely dominant effort.

    Adjust as needed in game.
    Grade: A

    The Seahawks had 3 great drives (one ended with an INT). The next 2 drives were 3 & outs (one w a FG after a turnover). Uh oh. Have the Jets figured something out? Great response. Next drive – 69 yards in 1:56 for a TD. And it was smooth sailing after that.

    Likewise with the defense. The Jets had some solid drives in the first half. The Seahawks adjusted and allowed the Jets 15 yards in the second half.

    Avoid injuries. Please.
    Grade: A-

    Started right with Carlos Dunlap and Ryan Neal inactive – they weren’t needed today.

    Brandon Shell tweaked his ankle and left early. Everything else was on schedule (after a quick holding of the breath as DK limped off early in the game).

    RW got a whole quarter of rest. Bobby Wagner, KJ, and others got rest as well. Just want the doctor ordered. Now the goal is to turn that into a benefit in the next 3 weeks.

    Find some confidence boosters to build on.
    Grade: A-

    A whole game without too much stress is always good.

    RW looked more like RW again. Colby Parkinson had his first NFL catch and then followed it up with a great hands catch in the red zone. A couple pretty TD throws in the RZ and a pretty easy Carson run as well.

    Points off for not nabbing those INT chances. It was still a blowout win but that added boost of having those picks is palpable.

    • charlietheunicorn


      Balanced offensive attack. Some deep shots, medium shots… mixed with short passing / screen passing plays. Between the tackles rushing (tough runs) with a few sweeps / outside the tackle runs. Crisp. Few mental penalties / pre-snap penalties on offense. RW looked in control and really didn’t seem to phased by anything thrown at him. Stayed in phase, not a ton of off schedule plays.

      • TomLPDX

        And we saw some TE action as well!

  21. BoiseSeahawk

    I think the Jets would be smart to trade the first pick.
    Lawrence won’t do anything for them that Darnold can’t.
    Get Sewell and another early WR/RB.

    • Paul Cook

      No way. If you’re a bad team and have the chance to take an uber-talented, potential franchise QB for possibly the next 15 or so years, you do it. Every time.

    • Rob Staton

      No way can they pass up Lawrence.

      He is a gift from the football gods.

      • Kenny Sloth

        Best prospect since Andrew Luck

        • Big Mike


          • BoiseSeahawk

            Call me crazy but I’d rather get Sewell and the intangibles of a Zach Wilson, Trey Lance or Justin Fields than a more traditional QB like Lawrence. Lawrence will be great in the NFL but I don’t think he turns the Jets around by himself. They need a lot of help on the roster and even more on the coaching staff.

            Sorry just playing devils advocate here.

            • Rob Staton

              Lawrence is the ultimate modern day QB.

              Any team who passes on him should be tested immediately for rank stupidity

              • BoiseSeahawk

                I give you free reign to call me on rank stupidity in a couple years when Lawrence is league MVP. But I’ll stick to my guns.

                • Rob Staton

                  That’s fine. But when you describe Lawrence as some kind of old throwback, it deserves to be challenged.

                  • BoiseSeahawk

                    Cool. Don’t get me wrong I don’t see Lawrence as a pure pocket passer or anything but just more so than Fields, Wilson or Lance. But I hope Lawrence does amazing in the NFL.

    • Sea Mode

      He’s going to be the centerpiece that lures any potential HC candidates to New York.

      • Paul Cook

        If I’m the Jets, and I’ve got the 1st pick, I take Lawrence, trade Darnold for the highest pick you can get in either the 2021 or 2020 draft, get a vet QB (like a Ryan Fitzpatrick), sit Lawrence year one to protect him (like KC did with Mahomes), keep sucking and rebuilding through the draft for a few more years, bring out Lawrence in year two, and keep moving forward from there.

        • Paul Cook

          That was the 2021 or 2022 draft. LOL

    • BobbyK

      If anything needs to be traded, it’s certainly not the rights to Lawrence.

      They have the Seahawks first round pick and they will also have the 33rd overall pick. They can trade down in either of those situations to acquire more and more picks. But you don’t sacrifice a potential franchise QB by trading that pick for more picks.

      Nice thing about the Jets is they have a stud rookie LT built in and ready to protect Lawrence for a decade. They’re a joke this year, no doubt. But I think they’re in better position than quite a few other teams for 2023.

      By keeping the Lawrence pick, they can also offer Darnold to someone for a pick. I can easily see some team trade a future 2nd round pick for him. Or they can probably get a third round pick for him this upcoming year.

      • Big Mike

        Jmo, but I’m gonna predict no higher than a 3rd for Darnold

        • RugbyLock

          That would give them 6 picks in the first three rounds…

  22. Paul Cook

    For the most part, I refuse to analyze this game or dish out citations or demerits to players or coaches. The Jets are pretty much spittoon spittle at this point. I wonder what the line would have been if they played last year’s LSU team?

    I can’t stop thinking about how much more favorable our playoff seeding position would be tonight if we had taken care of business last week. I thought New Orleans was going to drop a couple of games before season’s end, though I thought it would be Atlanta last week rather than Philly this week and KC the coning week. The Packers could easily dump one to the Titans and/or the Bears.

    But enough of that.

    As for next week, it’s important that we actually have a decent offensive game plan. Rivera is a good defensive coach, and they’ve got some talent up front. We’ll see.

    Good work on recent blog posts. I enjoyed them, cha’s included.

  23. Submanjoe

    They did what they were supposed to against a crappy team. No praise deserved. On to the next game.

  24. Rob Staton

    I can’t believe Joe Fann asked that question about the fourth quarter to Pete Carroll.

    Absolutely terrible. He should be embarrassed.

    You’re not there to take the piss out of the coach.

    Pete was not impressed. Stuff like that can linger.

    • cha

      Baffling. He was a bulldog on Darrell Taylor earlier this week and got some fantastic stuff. And now this.

      • Rob Staton

        No idea what was going on in his head. Pete will have marked his card after that.

        JF seems like someone who has a lot to learn (but would never admit to it).

        Sometimes he’s the only one asking difficult questions. This? Just awful.

        • Hoggs41

          But it was a joke, not a serious question.

          • Rob Staton

            I have done 1000’s of press conferences in my career.

            At no point have I ever seen someone successfully pull off a ‘joke’ question. You just end up looking like an absolute tit.

            And Carroll clearly didn’t see it as a joke. He was not happy.

            • cha

              Aaaand now the story is about Joe trying to explain he was just digging at Pete because Pete likes to dig at them. And looking even more silly.

              • Rob Staton


    • Dm594

      Better than the pu**y a** questions the other media guys ask. Seattle media is soft. Literally not even worth the time or question. About in line with half the folks here.

      • Big Mike

        You on the other hand……


        • Dm594

          Literally, please list off the names of local media members who ask true questions. Questions that truly present the coaches/players with a question that dems an answer. Not the BS COVID/ BLM/ 2020 election. Football is more than that. Ask the REAL QUESTIONS we want to know.

          • Big Mike

            My comment had nothing to do with the media as they are downy soft. Rather it was your “half the people here”.
            You wanna see some real joke posters go to
            Folks here are generally pretty knowledgeable and not prone to hyperbole.

            • Big Mike

              Most here aren’t prone to put downs of other posters either.

      • Rob Staton

        Half the folk in here?

        Given that we’re seemingly the only community who talk about the key topics consistently, I think I’m also the only one who has consistently attended press conferences. If you want me to send you some examples of the questions I’ve asked in the past, I am happy to.

  25. BruceN

    Hard to get excited about beating an awful Jets team. But they were averaging over 300 yards of offense in the last 4 games and today were held to only 185 yards. Main objective was to check the box and stay healthy (pending status of Shell).

  26. Rob Staton

    The podcast is now live and at the top of this article.

  27. GerryG

    First game of the RW era I didn’t watch.

    Jets are trash and not even worthy of the NFL logo.

    The comments from players & coaches this week continued to further anger me. I was pissed off all week. I couldn’t bring myself to watch, there was nothing to be gained for me, only further exasperation.

    Hoping a decent well coached team awaits for me next when I return to viewing.

    • Darnell

      It really isn’t that serious. Just enjoy the sport, athletes, and competition.

      • GerryG

        My irrational love of the Seahawks makes things a little more difficult than just “enjoy”.

        This season has frustrated me to no end, because they should be better. Last week’s coaches sounding like unprepared amateurs made me irrationally angry. Jim Mora level wtf.

        Of course I should be better than that, but Im not.

  28. dj 1/2 way

    Had to listen on the radio….and I can not find a highlight with the DK hit that knocked out the defender and later had DK on his butt.


    • dj 1/2 way

      found it..duh… did not show him limping off, but you tube did.

    • Dm594

      Again dk underplayed himself. Let him go after next season. No CAPPP

      • Big Mike

        You on the other hand…..


        • Dm594

          Drop, drop, TD catch with a sorry excuse for a celebration that caused his team a 15yd penalty. T.O. In the making budd.

          • Big Mike

            You’re entitled to your opinion, bud. But it’s just that, opinion. He’s nowhere near as self-aggrandizing as T.O. in my opinion.

  29. Pran

    Seeing Josh Allen, it’s time Russ engage a consultant. Schotty and Pete giving preferential treatment would not help him much.

    Josh Allen (and many others) work with Palmer (Carson Palmer’s brother) in off season.

    • DriveByPoster

      I’m sure Jamal Adams could give him Alan’s number.

    • Kenny Sloth

      Well, it was gonna be hard for Josh Allen to keep playing and not improve.

      Russell doesnt need Jordan Palmer

  30. RWIII

    Schell is a MAJOR concern. The Washington defensive line is legitimate. Hoping for the best for Schell. I will have watch thed 2and

  31. RWIII

    I will have to watch the 2nd half to see how Wheeler played. I know it was the Jets offense but the defense did look really good. The Jets did drop 28 against the Raiders the previous week.

    Washington’s offense struggled against the 49ers. So as long as the Seahawks don’t turn the ball over they should be okay next week.

  32. BobbyK

    I echo the sentiment of many that this game was a game they needed to win big but would still do nothing in my confidence towards them.

    Playing Football Team, on the other hand, has a chance to give me renewed hope. However, that “renewed hope” will mean nothing if they lose to the Rams again the following week. For me to think they’re legit, they need two wins in a row and it won’t matter if they’re ugly. Just win and set yourself up for the final week of the regular season and see where you’re at.

  33. Tim

    While I’m pleased, we have to realize that the Jets just fired their DC – it’s not at all surprising that their defense was porous after that kind of management turmoil. To say nothing of the turmoil from their crappy HC.

    The win was very, very welcome. But the challenge was quite low.

    As an irrelevant complaint – KJ’s attempt to pull an interception, when Poona was right there and in good position, struck me as one of the more clueless things I’ve seen him do in a while. Man, did that one piss me off.

    • Big Mike

      Funny I saw it as 2 guys going for the ball that simply didn’t see each other. But of you’re right, yeah it was clueless.

      • GoHawksDani

        If KJ didn’t see Poona it’s even worse. Poona stood right in front of him. He didn’t trust Poona to see the opportunity or handle it. It’s a shame

  34. no frickin clue

    Really hope Shell can make it next week against Washington, that D-line is impressive. Chad Wheeler looked lost against the Giants, so if he has to go, that’s a problem.

    Obviously this game coming up is important for any hopes of winning the NFC West. But more than that, there’s a decent probability that, even if we beat them, the Hawks still have to travel to Washington again in the first round of the playoffs. Wouldn’t you rather go in there in January knowing you’ve already bested them, punched them in the mouth?

    • God of Thunder

      I didn’t see Wheeler screw up too much today. Maybe he got over the jitters he had last game. It is after a steep curve.

      • GlastoHawk UK

        I specifically watched Wheeler on most downs and think he did a decent job, especially considering he is fourth string, certainly a massive improvement on last week. However it was only the Jets. Will be interesting to see how he graded.

        • Rob Staton

          Wheeler received the third highest grade on offense, behind Colby Parkinson and Russell Wilson.

          • TomLPDX

            Hopefully another solid week practicing with the first string will help Wheeler even more. It was nice to see Colby out there for a few plays, thought he looked pretty good for his first time out. I was really happy to see Dissly get a TD! About time!!!

  35. Trevor

    Who has better skill position players Alabama or the Jets?

    Also has any QB had less to work with than Sam Darnold since he came into the league?

    • AlaskaHawk

      Alabama has better coaching.

  36. Mick

    Any chance that Trevor Lawrence refuses to play for the Jets and they trade for Carson Wentz?

    • no frickin clue

      The first part of that query is technically possible, but unlikely.

      But I’ll play along. A trade for Wentz? That would trigger a 2021 dead money hit of $33 million for the Eagles and cap savings of…wait for it….$853,000. The Eagles won’t be motivated sellers, no matter how much buyer’s remorse they have.

      Never mind the fact that Wentz looks like damaged goods out there. Why would the Jets or anyone else want to assume that contract, which runs out to 2024 and has cap hits of $30 million or more per year, every year?

      • Big Mike

        I’m not a cap guy at all, but I could see Indy maybe taking on at least some of the Wentz contract in trade. Remember, he had his greatest (practically only) success when Frank Reich was his OC in Philly and Rivers is totally on borrowed time.

    • Gohawks5151

      Honestly I hope he doesn’t go there and pulls the Eli Manning. They are a horrible franchise that is wasting another high QB pick in Sam Darnold that I really liked. The problem is all the rest of the top 5 picks don’t need a QB except Jacksonville, but do you wan to go there either? Maybe hope Atlanta and Carolina keep losing.

      • TomLPDX

        Carolina or Atlanta would be excellent choices for Lawrence if he gets the chance. Learn behind Matty or Bridgewater for a year if he can while the rebuild those teams. Good owners also.

  37. Matty

    An essential and expected win.
    Get ready for the next game as at this time of the year team problems are there until the end of the season. Patch up the poor bits the best bits go ahead and enhance/improve.
    Sticking my neck out – I reckon the Seahawks top the division this season.

  38. GoHawksDani

    This was a preseason game where one team rolls with the starters and the other plays their backups from the start. Blowout felt good but maybe more backups from the start would’ve been better for the Hawks (getting some gametime exp)

  39. Trevor

    If the Hawks can somehow win these final 3 games what needs to happen with the Saints and Rams for them to get the #1 seed?

    • millhouse-serbia

      I guess you thought with Saints and Packers.

      They both need to lose a game against NFC team.

      It wouldnt be ebough if Saints lose agains Chiefs and Packers against Titans.

      If all 3 teams finish with 12-4 and 9-3 conference score, think we will have best sov.

      • Trevor

        Thanks for this.

        So basically we have almost no chance at the 1 seed because of that Giants loss.

        • Jeremy Brewer

          Vikings could beat the saints, and the bears could beat the packers. I would give it a chance.

          • Rob Staton

            I can see the Vikings winning. I wouldn’t trust the Bears to make a cheese sandwich.

            • Kenny Sloth

              Nah there’s no chance.

              Just forget about the 1 seed

              • Rob Staton

                There’s no need for the snark Kenny.

                Be honest with yourself. You know as well as I do that it went down the toilet when they lost to NYG.

                • Kenny Sloth

                  Sorry havent had my coffee.

                  I just cant think that way, man. That just isnt football to me.

                  Packers already almost lost to the Jags. Rodgers is a choke artist.
                  Saints are playing worse and worse every week and just lost to the Eagles.
                  Rams are starting Jared Goff.

                  Anything can happen in this league, and the Giants loss prevented us controlling our destiny.

                  Goal #1 secure NFC West. Once that’s done we can think about hoping for some weird results.

                • BruceN

                  Yes, NYG loss hurt on both fronts. As if a loss at home to a team that was missing it’s starting QB and RB wasn’t bad enough, it was a conference loss that practically eliminated any chance of the #1 seed. We could’ve been tied today with the Saints and GB at 10-3. Sigh…

                  • Rob Staton

                    Yup. Massive missed opportunity.

                    But I think it will also allow a few people to adjust their expectations for the year. I don’t think the Seahawks are as good as the Saints or Packers.

        • millhouse-serbia

          Not only 1st, but 2nd and 5th too. If TB wins all 3 games, we are playing with Rams for 3rd or 6th seed. And Rams are in better position than us for 1st or 2nd seed because of better conference score.

  40. cha

    Alan earned his salary this week

    Seriously, Seattle press? 12 minutes and no question of “why do you have a dead animal wrapped around your neck?”

    • Rob Staton

      At least the scarf finally got a mention by Michael ‘player clothes correspondent’ Dugar.

      Alan’s well known for his massive, ugly scarves in the fashion industry.

      All the cool kids are wearing them.

      It isn’t a proper scarf unless it looks like a great big fury boa constrictor.

      • Kenny Sloth

        LeBron’s fashion coach is named Rachel.

        It’s commonplace stuff really.

        • Rob Staton

          You’re skirting close to policing the conversation Kenny.

          • Kenny Sloth

            It’s not even worth policing?

            Who cares what the man wears and who picks it out for him.

            • Rob Staton


              If we want to laugh about Jamal Adams having a fashion coach called Alan, we are going to do it.

              We don’t need you turning up with your clipboard to tell us it’s a code red violation because Lebron also has a fashion coach.

              • Big Mike

                Difference is LeBron is top 5 all-time. Jamal…not so much.

    • icb12

      Looks to me like he was trying to pull off the signature Fitzmagic look and just doesn’t have the chest hair to pull it off..

      • TomLPDX

        Snort, this made my morning! Good one, icb12!

  41. pdway

    It was just the Jets, but does the world seem just a tiny bit better today than last Monday?

    yes, it does.

    • Rob Staton

      Bloody hell, the Seahawks beat an 0-13 team and we’re round the campfire singing ‘Imagine’ 😂

      • pdway

        I did say tiny bit . . .

        • Kenny Sloth

          I’ll second that tiniest of bits.

          As a fan of all Seattle sports, it was really good to see them cruise because thats the expectation.

          (And I really needed it after the Sounders lost the cup final on Sat.)

          • Hoggs41

            To me it was a good win. Shows that they can put there foot on someone’s throat and squeeze the life out of them. A win is a win in the NfL. If you pound a bad team by 37 or beat a good team by 3 they all count the same. Now if we would have won this game 20-17 I would have been concerned a little.

            • Rob Staton

              They were playing the 0-13 Jets. They’re an absolute shambles and are destined to become only the third team EVER to not win a single game.

              It’s OK to enjoy the win without having to try and make this into something it isn’t.

              • RugbyLock

                It was just nice for once having a game I could just sit back and relax the whole time. My wife asked me if I took some Prozac as I was MUCH quieter than my usual animated self watching a typical Seahawky stressfest of a game… LOL!

                • Rob Staton

                  I agree it was nice to have a week off the stress.

                  But it was a thoroughly dull and unexciting no-contest that felt like a pre-season game.

            • James Z

              The SH’s beating the Jets had the emotional punch of watching a pre-season game. I baked some Hawaiian Banana bread… that was more exciting.

              • Rob Staton

                That sounds good to be fair

      • Big Mike


      • BruceN

        It’s not the win that created a tiny bit of excitement. It was the manner in which they won. They used short and quick passing, ran Carson more and even threw to the TEs! That’s cause for excitement.

        • Rob Staton

          The only exciting part of the game last night for me was when Geno Atkins took his place under center…

          (Some people won’t get this)

          • BruceN

            😊 And Geno Atkins took his place before the end of the 3rd Qtr. Now you have to admit that was mildly impressive.

  42. cha

    This exchange from the press conference bothered me yesterday, and it’s bothering me even more today. I went back and listened to it a few times so I could transcribe it word for word:

    John Boyle: Pete I know you guys have a lot still out there that you’re still playing for, but today’s win gives you a winning record this year. That’s 9 straight years with a winning record. What kind of accomplishment is that, in this league where parody is kind of the norm?

    Pete Carroll: (snickers) Well not worthy of a game ball obviously, but (laughs) that’s a good thing, you know, a good thing. There’s nothing I love more than consistently being on it, and to me that’s where I take the most pride in my work. That we can show that we can come back year after year after year and do good stuff. So that’s a good marker. We have three big opportunities coming up we need too.

    I understand that’s a softball question from the Seahawks own press guy, and it’ll make for a neat ‘yay team’ piece and no doubt will be quoted when the website does their year end wrap-up.

    But…Pete takes the ‘most pride in’ having a winning record every season?

    Where’s the fire? Where’s the hard smackdown of that question? The best he could muster is pointing out the team has 3 games left in the season?

    How about “That’s great and commendable but it’s just the beginning of the equation, not the end. Our goal is to win the Super Bowl. Every single thing we do is geared towards bringing another Lombardi back to Seattle. Consistently putting up a good record is simply a means toward that goal. We’ve fallen short, and this year we have shown we still have a tremendous amount of work to do to have a shot. I’m not satisfied with simply winning more games than losing.”

    Maybe I’m making a bigger deal out of a single quote said in the glow of a post-game blowout after a poor loss last week. Pete was asked about continued success and answered accordingly. But I really think he missed a chance to issue a manifesto to the team that they shouldn’t be satisfied.

    Does this indicate a potentially big part of the problem? That the vision isn’t set as high as it should be?

    • Gohawks5151

      I’m not sure man. I even sought out the clip after reading your comment. To me it was a softball question that he gave an “on brand” answer to. His whole deal is “win forever” so it’s the easy answer. It’s like hearing Russ say “Trust the process” or “Go 1-0 every week”. It is said almost without thinking. It wasn’t a great answer and he didn’t take any opportunity to dive deep as you did. I realize that is a very face value view of the comment but that’s what I heard.

    • Big Mike

      The cat is fat cha.

  43. cha

    I missed the PC Show this morning but Brandon Gustafson live tweeted a chunk of it

    • Kurt ZUMDIECK


      Great job feeding the blog and making it a community. The pressers are a hard thing, so much coach speak. Never gonna get any bulletin board material let alone straight up facts. The level of secrecy and lies at an NFL press conference would make Brezhnev blush.

      That said, I think our defense has played really well the last month, save a couple drives last week and a few dropped interceptions. The Jets O has been pretty good the last month and they manhandled the Raiders, doing more than enough to win. Darnold has a live arm and is really learning how to be an NFL quality player, without any talent around him. Too bad his career is basically over now that some new head coach is gonna wanna take Clemson’s football diety and then promptly lead him to slaughter.

      We played PC football, keeping everything in front of us between the 20’s, forcing them into field goals, (which they missed because Lumen is probably the toughest place in the league to kick, swirling winds, dead balls..)

      What was surprising was that we rolled out a lot more man-to-man coverage so that Adams can greendog blitz on almost every play. Diggs seems to understand what his role is now and has adjusted. Amadi balled out.

      Seems that if PC is calling his own defensive calls, the old man IS adjusting to his personnel.

  44. Hoggs41

    Legit question to the community. Do we really want our strong safety getting 8-10 sacks a year? I would be more happy if he didnt have hands of stone and got that pick instead of the sack.

    • Rob Staton

      It’s a fair question

    • James Cr.

      I think it all depends on how much he is blitzing, as I think Rob you have mentioned in the past.
      If he is blitzing 3-4 times a game and gets 8-10 sacks, then that is fantastic. If he is blitzing 10 times a game, then no it isnt a great stat. I just know that Adams’ agent will definitely be bringing it up as to why he should get paid a lot more than Budda Baker, when it is a totally deceptive stat.

    • Roger Davis

      Hoggs, we’ve got a guy whose position is “Sacker.” The team calls him a “Strong Safety.”

      Personally, I call him a “One Trick Pony.” He seems to me to be a Super Star version of what we were hoping Shaquem Griffin might become.

      If I was the Seahawks, I don’t give a fiddlers arse what his position is called. I care – can his unique, quite exceptional skill set – be SCHEMED with the other 10 defensive players to create a competitive, or better, overall defensive. Period.

      If we can’t find a way to incorporate him, then trade him to a team that thinks they can. Personally, I’d be delighted IF they could find a way to scheme his unique skill set into a comprehensive defensive scheme.

      • Big Mike

        Preach it brother

  45. dcd2

    Quick question on the mock. Do you like Devonta Smith (WR – Bama) better than Waddle or just think he will go higher? I like Waddle more, but it might be a preference thing like Ruggs/Jeudy were this year.

    • Matt

      DeVonta is basically a little better version of Justin Jefferson. People will over analyze him bc of his build, but he will be a top notch WR very quickly.

      Waddle is awesome but needs to be in the right system. Could be a nightmare in KC.

      • dcd2

        I feel like Smith is more smooth and Waddle is more explosive. I’m always amazed by how easy Devonta seems to get separation from his defenders. He’s so stick thin, I do worry about his durability though.

        Waddle is just a menace when he gets the ball in his hands. He can make people miss, break tackles and outrun pretty much everyone on the field.

    • Rob Staton

      I like Smith better.

      I’ve been hyping him up for 18 months.

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